1 00:00:03,320 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Well, Sophie, I don't know if I agree with you 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,680 Speaker 1: that a Kamala Harris themed erotic vampire anime would be successful. 3 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: But I guess we all have different opinions on things. Oh, 4 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:16,880 Speaker 1: I didn't notice the audience had had come in here. 5 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:20,200 Speaker 1: I'm Robert Evanance. This is Behind Bastards. It's a podcast 6 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: about the worst people in all of history. Sophie and 7 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:26,239 Speaker 1: Christopher and I were just having a conversation about manga's 8 00:00:26,320 --> 00:00:30,280 Speaker 1: that we think would be successful. Um so, Christopher, I 9 00:00:30,280 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: don't know, what do you think erotic Kamala Harris vampire anime? 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:36,040 Speaker 1: I mean I can see it. Look okay, the you 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:37,760 Speaker 1: know the advantage you get you get out of out 12 00:00:37,800 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: of it? About of anime? Right, everyone's eyes enormously large. 13 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: You can lose. You cannot loose with this. Yeah, absolutely, 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,400 Speaker 1: eyes are too big. Science says that we find the 15 00:00:48,440 --> 00:00:53,360 Speaker 1: big ice cute, cannot go wrong, cannot go wrong. Um, well, 16 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,400 Speaker 1: other things you can't go wrong with our classic Behind 17 00:00:56,480 --> 00:01:01,000 Speaker 1: the Bastard's reverse episode where where one of my Sophie 18 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 1: are we allowed to call them indentured servants? No, we're 19 00:01:05,520 --> 00:01:11,840 Speaker 1: one of my indentured podcast guests in this case. Christopher. Also, um, well, okay, 20 00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:15,040 Speaker 1: Sophie one of our team members, one of the members 21 00:01:15,200 --> 00:01:19,080 Speaker 1: of our squad, Sophie, there is no iron team, but 22 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: several of the letters that are also in Indentured Servant 23 00:01:22,160 --> 00:01:25,600 Speaker 1: are in the worst team. So, Robert, that was worse 24 00:01:25,640 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 1: than that was worse than the fake laugh you did 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: at the start of this episode. Christopher Wong, who is 26 00:01:31,280 --> 00:01:35,720 Speaker 1: on our team, a valued member of the Zone Media squad. 27 00:01:36,959 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: I'd prefer uh hunt the cool Zone Media Hunt. I've 28 00:01:42,680 --> 00:01:45,559 Speaker 1: always felt we were more of a regime. Oh god, 29 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: you know your your web cram being broken and me 30 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: not being able to look you in the eyes when 31 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: I'm angry really upset to me. I know, I know 32 00:01:54,320 --> 00:01:57,200 Speaker 1: that's part of why I haven't fixed it. Christopher, are 33 00:01:57,240 --> 00:01:59,720 Speaker 1: we gonna learn about today well on this podcast for 34 00:02:00,360 --> 00:02:03,200 Speaker 1: before we formally start. Robert, how do you feel about 35 00:02:03,240 --> 00:02:07,360 Speaker 1: Operation paper Clip? Um? Oh, you know, so when World 36 00:02:07,360 --> 00:02:10,400 Speaker 1: War two ended, right, same kind of feeling that I 37 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,000 Speaker 1: got when like the last Lord of the Rings movie finished, 38 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: or like when Firefly got canceled, and I'm like, but 39 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 1: I wanted more. I wanted more from these kookie Nazis 40 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:22,000 Speaker 1: and their crimes and then the US government and the 41 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,000 Speaker 1: Russian government in two separate operations, were like, don't worry, Robert, 42 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: We're gonna give those guys future jobs. You can keep 43 00:02:29,560 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 1: following the careers of Albert Speer, Verner von Brown, a 44 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: bunch of other Nazis, including that guy the CIA hired, 45 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: and see what they do after the war. It's like, um, 46 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:45,120 Speaker 1: you know what it's like. Uh, it's like that TV 47 00:02:45,240 --> 00:02:49,400 Speaker 1: show Joey after Friends got canceled. That's what Operation paper 48 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,960 Speaker 1: Clip is for the Nazis. And I I personally, as 49 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:56,040 Speaker 1: a fan of both Joey and World War two history, 50 00:02:56,200 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: I think that's great. What's Joey's last name, Triviana, something 51 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,840 Speaker 1: like that. More or less, it's been a long time 52 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:06,000 Speaker 1: since I watched the episode of Friends. Look, it's been 53 00:03:06,000 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 1: like fifteen years. Come on, oh well, Robert, you're you're 54 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:17,600 Speaker 1: going to love part two of this. And I'm gonna 55 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,360 Speaker 1: start out at this episode. I'm gonna make an incredibly 56 00:03:19,400 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: bold claim and we'll see how to see if you 57 00:03:21,240 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: agree with it after after after the part the second 58 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:27,800 Speaker 1: part of this episode, UM, I maintain that the rehabilitation 59 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: of Nobisuka Kishi, who is the subody give today's episode 60 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: is the single worst example of the US rehabilitating a 61 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 1: war criminal after the end of the days, this is 62 00:03:36,720 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: the worst one. I'm excited because this is a new 63 00:03:40,000 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: war criminal for me, which is a huge day in 64 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:48,080 Speaker 1: Robert Land. Yeah, yeah, alright. So Kishi was born on 65 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: November eighte in a village Inmgushi Prefecture of Japan. Now 66 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:56,200 Speaker 1: she she is born in an incredibly important time in 67 00:03:56,240 --> 00:03:59,360 Speaker 1: Japanese history, right, just literally right at the beginning of 68 00:03:59,400 --> 00:04:02,400 Speaker 1: the second phase of Japanese imperialism. So to get us 69 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: to the second phase, um so, after the restoration the 70 00:04:05,720 --> 00:04:10,560 Speaker 1: Emperor and the Meiji restoration of Japan rapidly starts importing 71 00:04:10,560 --> 00:04:14,600 Speaker 1: European technology, European organizational principles, your Pean ideology, and European 72 00:04:14,720 --> 00:04:18,480 Speaker 1: racism in order to do a rapid quote unquote modernization 73 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 1: campaign in order to compete with the European nations. Now, 74 00:04:22,400 --> 00:04:25,640 Speaker 1: Japan was not exactly like an egalitarian paradise before they 75 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: started doing this. And you know the consequence of this 76 00:04:30,000 --> 00:04:33,000 Speaker 1: is that you know, they take the colonialism like a 77 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,840 Speaker 1: fish to water. And this starts what I'm going to 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: call the three phases of Japanese imperialism. You have imperialism one, 79 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,880 Speaker 1: imperialism to imperialism harder, and imperialism with three tokyo drift. 80 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:46,640 Speaker 1: I'm very frustrated that that you didn't do an imperialism 81 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 1: too electric boogaloo. But but you know, we'll we'll discuss 82 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: that at your next performance evaluation. I will I I 83 00:04:54,680 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: will endeavor to get better references when I name phases 84 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 1: of imperialism to after bad movie idols. Yeah. So, imperialism 85 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:05,520 Speaker 1: one basically starts right as the major restoration happens, and 86 00:05:05,520 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: and it lasts roughly from about eighteen sixty eight to 87 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,520 Speaker 1: the start of the Sino Japanese War in eighteen ninety four. 88 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,640 Speaker 1: And and this is the phase that everyone ignores because 89 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 1: it's you know, this phase imperialism is very very local 90 00:05:17,920 --> 00:05:21,440 Speaker 1: or it's happening inside Japan itself, but it's extremely important 91 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:23,720 Speaker 1: to understand, like everything's gonna happen next we're gonna talk 92 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: about it for a little bit. And now. So the 93 00:05:26,320 --> 00:05:28,920 Speaker 1: the sort of the defining characteristics of this first phase 94 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:32,799 Speaker 1: are the horrifically violent assimilation of the Anui people in Hokkaido, 95 00:05:33,160 --> 00:05:36,479 Speaker 1: the annexation of the Rioku Islands. Might not know what 96 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,039 Speaker 1: those are the biggest one is Okinawa. You probably know 97 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,560 Speaker 1: what that is. Yeah. My my half of my family 98 00:05:43,160 --> 00:05:45,840 Speaker 1: has been half of their lives there. Yeah. Yeah, very 99 00:05:45,920 --> 00:05:50,600 Speaker 1: nice place, Very very bad things happened to people there. Yeah. 100 00:05:50,640 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 1: There's a monument at the north of the island called 101 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:55,560 Speaker 1: Peace Prayer Park because when the when the US took 102 00:05:55,600 --> 00:05:58,720 Speaker 1: the island, the Japanese occupiers told them like, hey, you're 103 00:05:58,760 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: all going to get murdered and raped by US troops. 104 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: You should just kill yourselves now. And so a shipload 105 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:07,720 Speaker 1: of Okahoma has just flung themselves off the cliffs. Uh. 106 00:06:07,720 --> 00:06:10,760 Speaker 1: And now there's a very nice monument there. Um, it's 107 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:18,760 Speaker 1: a lot of bad things have gone down in the Yeah. Yeah, 108 00:06:18,839 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: this is the Japanese Empire is just sending enormous numbers 109 00:06:22,960 --> 00:06:27,280 Speaker 1: of people to their deaths. Is running FEMA this episode. Yeah, 110 00:06:27,360 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 1: it's it is remarkable when you're telling a story that 111 00:06:31,640 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 1: takes place, when you're telling a story about colonialism in Asia. Uh, 112 00:06:37,560 --> 00:06:41,719 Speaker 1: and the US is not the specific bad guy at 113 00:06:41,760 --> 00:06:45,760 Speaker 1: the story. Yeah, like like, yeah, the Empire of Japan 114 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,920 Speaker 1: got like yeah, like this is the thing that like 115 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: the Americans don't become the bad guys in this story 116 00:06:51,720 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: until two years into the occupation, which is like like 117 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: I'm trying to I can't. I don't know if like 118 00:06:57,080 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 1: another time ever the U. S has like military occupy 119 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:01,960 Speaker 1: another country and it took two years for them to 120 00:07:01,960 --> 00:07:05,600 Speaker 1: become like the bad guys. It's yeah, we got faster, 121 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:08,520 Speaker 1: don't worry, guys. Yeah, yeah, we've We've improved our game. 122 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: That's what Taylorism brings you. Yep. Yeah, actually this was 123 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: the Gakishi. We a lot of just got cut. But Kishi, 124 00:07:18,720 --> 00:07:23,480 Speaker 1: big fan of Taylorism, absolutely loves it. And yeah him 125 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: and are cops yep, yep. It's it's great stuff. And 126 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, there's one more thing that happens, and this 127 00:07:31,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: is I think the least well known of the stuff 128 00:07:32,920 --> 00:07:34,600 Speaker 1: that happens in Japan in this period, which is that 129 00:07:35,280 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 1: there's this just mass destruction and looting of thousands and 130 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:42,320 Speaker 1: thousands of these local non Shinto shrines like in Japan itself, 131 00:07:42,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 1: and they had this this this giant like culture Confian 132 00:07:45,080 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: just like annihilates like all of this sort of like 133 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:51,680 Speaker 1: local non like Shinto religions, and you know, all of 134 00:07:51,680 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: this violence is about sort of it's about annihilating any 135 00:07:53,880 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: other culture in Japan and forcing everyone to sort of 136 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: assemblight to the new Japanese nation state. And you know, 137 00:07:58,920 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 1: I mean, this is this is what nine century nationalism is. 138 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:04,400 Speaker 1: This this attempt to impose like a single national language 139 00:08:04,400 --> 00:08:06,680 Speaker 1: and culture on a bunch of people who you know, 140 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,640 Speaker 1: until this point, like the only thing most a lot 141 00:08:09,640 --> 00:08:11,840 Speaker 1: of these people have in common is that like armed 142 00:08:11,880 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 1: men show up every year and take stuff, some of 143 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: them to give it the same king. Like. Other than that, 144 00:08:16,200 --> 00:08:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, they have different cultures, have languages, and you know, 145 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 1: and in order to get rid of days that used 146 00:08:21,400 --> 00:08:23,840 Speaker 1: to be all government was was armed men taking your 147 00:08:23,840 --> 00:08:25,800 Speaker 1: stuff and giving it to the king. And one day, 148 00:08:26,200 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 1: when libertarianism wins, we'll get back to that. I wonder, yeah, 149 00:08:29,720 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: I wonder how long it would take for for the CEO. 150 00:08:32,080 --> 00:08:34,960 Speaker 1: So it just literally started pointing themselves monarchs. I don't know, 151 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: you know, there's that um the Twitter account run in 152 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: part by the Kent State gun Girl, the Liberty Hangout 153 00:08:41,840 --> 00:08:46,840 Speaker 1: accounts like a libertarian conservative account like four years ago, 154 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 1: and in about a year and a half was like 155 00:08:49,000 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: an ironically advocating the establishment of a monarchy contract. That's 156 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 1: why I made that joke. It's like literally a thing 157 00:08:54,800 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 1: that's happening incredible. Yeah, okay, continue, Yeah, you know, and 158 00:09:00,200 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 1: all the violence of you know, we've been talking about 159 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:04,959 Speaker 1: the violence in Okkaido, the violence in the islands, and 160 00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 1: the violence in Japan itself. Like this is this is 161 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 1: the crucible in which Japanese nationalism is formed. And you know, 162 00:09:10,679 --> 00:09:13,160 Speaker 1: and like like like the rest of the twenty century nationalisms, 163 00:09:13,679 --> 00:09:17,280 Speaker 1: the only place so that goes is imperialism, to imperialism harder. 164 00:09:18,160 --> 00:09:22,480 Speaker 1: And this this phase begins in eight when Japan launches 165 00:09:22,520 --> 00:09:24,960 Speaker 1: a war against China basically over control the Korean Peninsula 166 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 1: and they just like they just smashed the Chinese army. Um. 167 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:30,840 Speaker 1: We we talked about this war a little bit from 168 00:09:30,880 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 1: the Chinese side and our Jong Zung Chong episode, but 169 00:09:34,679 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: you know, from from the Japanese perspective, this war makes 170 00:09:37,840 --> 00:09:41,160 Speaker 1: Japan like the premier like power in East Asia. Like 171 00:09:41,160 --> 00:09:44,000 Speaker 1: they're they're they're they're they're the big Asian power and 172 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: you know, and Kishi is born the year after Japan 173 00:09:46,840 --> 00:09:50,679 Speaker 1: wins the Sound Japanese War, and when he's eight years old, 174 00:09:51,080 --> 00:09:53,000 Speaker 1: Japan wins his next major war, which is the Rusto 175 00:09:53,120 --> 00:09:57,520 Speaker 1: Japanese War. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, Japan, Like, yeah, 176 00:09:57,760 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: Japan beats Russia so badly war it's amazing. Yeah, that's like, yeah, 177 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: the Russians are so like start the war with such 178 00:10:08,840 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: a like we're gonna win us an easy victory against 179 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 1: the savages and then lose their entire north fleet just 180 00:10:16,160 --> 00:10:20,240 Speaker 1: just just their asses hand to them almost like one 181 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: of the biggest ass whoopings of the entire century military. 182 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,760 Speaker 1: It's it's it's kind of funny because it's like, okay, 183 00:10:25,760 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: so like you know, they sailed this, they sailed the 184 00:10:27,200 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 1: second fleet from like all the way around Europe, around Africa, 185 00:10:29,800 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 1: and you know, I destroyed to but the first fleet 186 00:10:31,679 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 1: like the reason next, so there there is exactly one 187 00:10:35,720 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: guy in the entire Russian Navy who has any idea 188 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:40,520 Speaker 1: what he's doing. His name is Makarov. He's he's the 189 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:42,200 Speaker 1: guy who had to the icebreaker, like like he actually 190 00:10:42,240 --> 00:10:45,720 Speaker 1: does what he's doing. And also from him, yeah, he's 191 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 1: a he's a cool guy. And then like like at 192 00:10:48,040 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 1: like at max range, just like a random Japanese cannon 193 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 1: shot just like killed him in the entirety of like 194 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,839 Speaker 1: Russian like high command, and that was it for the 195 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:57,559 Speaker 1: Russian Davy because there's no one else in the whole 196 00:10:57,600 --> 00:11:01,960 Speaker 1: navy that like wasn't just like rand aristocratic appointment. It's 197 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,560 Speaker 1: it's a god yeah, it's it's great because you know, 198 00:11:07,400 --> 00:11:10,559 Speaker 1: it takes a lot to stand out as a Russian 199 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: naval disaster, because the Russian Navy has pretty comprehensively been 200 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 1: a ship show. We could talk about the Kurs or 201 00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:21,120 Speaker 1: the fact that their only aircraft carrier, the Admiral koltz 202 00:11:21,160 --> 00:11:24,000 Speaker 1: nets Off, keeps loking. It's dry dock on fire. We 203 00:11:24,080 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: can talk about a lot of stories of the Russian navy, 204 00:11:26,679 --> 00:11:28,800 Speaker 1: but please we should probably continue. We'll do a whole 205 00:11:28,840 --> 00:11:33,160 Speaker 1: Russian navy. Yeah yeah, you know, and like like in Russia, 206 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:34,840 Speaker 1: like they lose this war so badly it causes a 207 00:11:34,880 --> 00:11:38,719 Speaker 1: revolution and you know, but in Japan, this is like, 208 00:11:38,840 --> 00:11:41,040 Speaker 1: you know, this is when Japan like becomes one of 209 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: the great powers. It's no, it's no longer this like 210 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,720 Speaker 1: minor regional power. Like it's one of the great powers, 211 00:11:44,720 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 1: and you know, everybody's going to take them seriously after 212 00:11:47,120 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: this the biggest land empire in Europe. Yeah yeah, well 213 00:11:50,559 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: and everything, it's like, you know, they beat a European power. Yeah, 214 00:11:53,440 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: like that that's a huge deal in this period, and 215 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:56,880 Speaker 1: like there's a lot of people who will support the 216 00:11:56,960 --> 00:12:01,040 Speaker 1: Japanese Empire like out of like anti imperialism. Basically, it's 217 00:12:01,080 --> 00:12:04,080 Speaker 1: like they're a non white empire. We have to yeah, 218 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:07,840 Speaker 1: and this is yeah, you know, trying to explain that, 219 00:12:08,040 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, somebody in Nanjing. Yep, yep. Oh boy, 220 00:12:13,440 --> 00:12:19,040 Speaker 1: don't worry. It's an imperialist empire that's shot your family 221 00:12:19,080 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: to debt anyway. Yeah, yeah, it's it's bad stuff. But 222 00:12:23,280 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 1: you know, like they're the product of this is like 223 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 1: she's is growing up in the period like when Japan 224 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: becomes like a super power and you know, they're they're 225 00:12:29,559 --> 00:12:32,080 Speaker 1: they're like a minor great power, Like they're not like 226 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: Germany or like like I don't know, or like the 227 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,679 Speaker 1: UK or France at this point, but you know, they're 228 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:39,679 Speaker 1: still a great power. And you know, and this is 229 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:41,839 Speaker 1: this is this is going to be sort of important 230 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 1: because this is the sort of this is the sort 231 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: of like era of nationalism and era sort of like 232 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: triumphalism that that she's coming up in. And Kesh is 233 00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:52,120 Speaker 1: going to be one of, if not the main, architect 234 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:54,679 Speaker 1: of imperialism with three Tokyo drift when that phase starts 235 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,920 Speaker 1: thirty seven and then that that's the fascist phase. So 236 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:00,719 Speaker 1: we're gonna we're we're yeah, we're gonna, We're gonna work 237 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: our way up to that throughout the course of this. 238 00:13:05,480 --> 00:13:09,200 Speaker 1: Now she she's great grandfather was actually like yeah, you know, 239 00:13:09,200 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: this is another source of the sort of like nationalism 240 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,640 Speaker 1: and patriots. And he comes up in is he was 241 00:13:12,720 --> 00:13:16,040 Speaker 1: like famous enough for doing like anti shogun stuff if 242 00:13:16,040 --> 00:13:18,000 Speaker 1: for the restoration that like when he dies, there's like 243 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: a bunch of articles on newspaper about it. But you 244 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:23,439 Speaker 1: know she doesn't that you know too. And after she dies, 245 00:13:23,640 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 1: the Kishi family business goes under and this starts off 246 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: this just really weird set of family drama and she 247 00:13:31,960 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: Kish's family is wild. Um. So she's older brother is 248 00:13:36,040 --> 00:13:38,840 Speaker 1: Sato Ihiro, and you know he becomes a vice amirald 249 00:13:38,880 --> 00:13:42,240 Speaker 1: the Navy. His younger brother, Sato Issaku, is the third 250 00:13:42,280 --> 00:13:45,800 Speaker 1: longest serving prime minister in Japanese history. Kishi spoiler alert, 251 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,280 Speaker 1: is also going to become prime minister. And he's like 252 00:13:48,760 --> 00:13:52,040 Speaker 1: kind of distantly related to a third Japanese prime minister, 253 00:13:52,080 --> 00:13:55,040 Speaker 1: you Shota Shiguru, which is extremely funny and reasons that 254 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 1: we'll get into in the second episode. Like like these 255 00:13:57,440 --> 00:13:59,720 Speaker 1: people are like they're like the Japanese bushes, except like 256 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 1: the Patos are just like they're just random people, Like 257 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 1: they're not like rich, like they're just Yeah, it's it's 258 00:14:06,240 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: it's the opportunity ship. Yeah, yeah, like that. It's like 259 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:12,319 Speaker 1: that they they just like for one generation. Actually, you 260 00:14:12,360 --> 00:14:14,760 Speaker 1: know after the after, they're gonna keep they're gonna be 261 00:14:14,760 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: staying politics like that one generation just like just ran 262 00:14:19,360 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 1: Japanese politics for like half a century. It doesn't seem 263 00:14:22,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: like that's ever a good idea. Yeah, it's it's not great. 264 00:14:27,840 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: Perhaps running paras politics isn't such a great idea, but 265 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: that's a cop out anyway. Now because the sort of 266 00:14:35,560 --> 00:14:39,800 Speaker 1: the family business imploded, like she she's uncle. Mansasuke goes 267 00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: to such like studying medicine in Tokyo and becomes a 268 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 1: professor obstetrics. Yeah, and you know, so Matsuke doesn't have 269 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: any sons, and so he adopts she she's younger brother Issaku, 270 00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:52,680 Speaker 1: to to marry his daughter. And again I want to 271 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 1: point out, okay, Mantasuke is she's uncle, right, that means 272 00:14:56,800 --> 00:15:02,280 Speaker 1: that Eaku is marrying his first cousin, and she also 273 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: marries his cousin Like this is like not like a 274 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: normal thing in this period, Like people don't marry their 275 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: first cousins like that often. And like both of the 276 00:15:11,640 --> 00:15:14,640 Speaker 1: people in this family directly people knew a while ago, 277 00:15:14,840 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: people knew a long time before this that like that's 278 00:15:17,920 --> 00:15:20,760 Speaker 1: not really a great idea that happening. Don't aren't looking 279 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:27,240 Speaker 1: so good like they do it anyways, and it's it's 280 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:28,760 Speaker 1: it's a great it's a great sign of where this 281 00:15:28,800 --> 00:15:32,200 Speaker 1: is going. So so Kishi stays with Matasuke when he's 282 00:15:32,240 --> 00:15:35,320 Speaker 1: like very little, and his uncle realizes that Kishi is 283 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,560 Speaker 1: extremely smart, and you know, like he hires a home 284 00:15:38,600 --> 00:15:41,400 Speaker 1: tutor to help Kishi passed is like incredibly selective interest 285 00:15:41,440 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 1: exams for this middle school, and then he hires want 286 00:15:43,360 --> 00:15:46,000 Speaker 1: to teach him English, and you know, it's this whole 287 00:15:46,040 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 1: thing where he's a child prodigy and his uncle is like, 288 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: I'm going to raise him, and you know, like like 289 00:15:50,640 --> 00:15:54,920 Speaker 1: Martsasuki like like deeply genuinely love's Kishi. One of his 290 00:15:54,960 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: biographers described it, quote treating his uncle like a son. 291 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:01,840 Speaker 1: Massasuke showered as much afection on Novasuke as did his 292 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,360 Speaker 1: own parents. Now, unfortunately for Kishi and unfortunately for like 293 00:16:05,640 --> 00:16:08,840 Speaker 1: all of East Asia, uh In, in the middle of 294 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 1: second year of middle school, Montessuke dies of pneumonia and 295 00:16:11,880 --> 00:16:13,840 Speaker 1: she sent off to live with what there was other aunts, 296 00:16:14,520 --> 00:16:16,440 Speaker 1: and you know, like this is this is like pretty, 297 00:16:16,480 --> 00:16:18,520 Speaker 1: but he's still like a young kid at this point, 298 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: and this is like this is really bad for him emotionally, 299 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: and you know that the second family that he gets 300 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:26,680 Speaker 1: sent to live with is like way less nice to him, 301 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:29,800 Speaker 1: and so you know, he still get support his academic career, 302 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,680 Speaker 1: but he has his like he he he has his 303 00:16:32,800 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: weird young age trauma, which like a couple of one 304 00:16:35,680 --> 00:16:37,960 Speaker 1: of his biographers like points this out and and it 305 00:16:38,040 --> 00:16:40,120 Speaker 1: is like, yeah, he has all the things that you 306 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:42,000 Speaker 1: need for a great leader. He has he's a he's 307 00:16:42,000 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: a good family, he has a he's a family that 308 00:16:43,440 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 1: wants to do education, and he has trauma. And I 309 00:16:45,400 --> 00:16:50,000 Speaker 1: was like, do you understand where this is going. It's 310 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,000 Speaker 1: very weird. Yeah, yeah, And Kishi, you know it's like 311 00:16:53,000 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: she she's a genius, like he's he has top of 312 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: he's at the top of his class in middle school, 313 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:58,880 Speaker 1: he graduates top of his class, again in high school, 314 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:02,640 Speaker 1: and in nineteen he's accepted into the incredibly prestigius Tokyo 315 00:17:02,720 --> 00:17:05,960 Speaker 1: Impure University. Now what she sees in college, she starts 316 00:17:06,000 --> 00:17:09,640 Speaker 1: to formally intellectually encounter the new Japanese far right, and 317 00:17:09,760 --> 00:17:13,080 Speaker 1: he becomes particularly enamored with like the er Japanese fascist 318 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: Iki Kita, who he is a weird guy that he 319 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,199 Speaker 1: has a lot of sort of eclectic ideas, but like 320 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 1: his big things that he wants the emperor to see 321 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:24,280 Speaker 1: his power in a coup, like dissolve the parliament to 322 00:17:24,280 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 1: create a fascist state m hm. And you know, she 323 00:17:28,200 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: she she she's kind of soft on the like coup part, 324 00:17:33,040 --> 00:17:36,840 Speaker 1: and Keita has some ideas about like well, okay, so 325 00:17:36,840 --> 00:17:38,520 Speaker 1: you're gonna cup the government, right, and then you have 326 00:17:38,520 --> 00:17:40,600 Speaker 1: a fascist state and the fascist state's gonna like kind 327 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: of resource redistribution, and she's like, he's he's kind of 328 00:17:44,320 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: soft in that part, but like, you know, the fascist 329 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: state part, he's he's incredibly in favor of. And you know, 330 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: I mean, at this point in time, there's no evidence 331 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: that it could possibly be a bad thing. Yeah, yeah, 332 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: this is you know, this is yeah, this is this is, 333 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: this is, this is pretty busily promising new political theory. 334 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,320 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, now yeah, so so when when when he 335 00:18:04,359 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: graduates from university in n there's a couple of weird 336 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,280 Speaker 1: things about it. So like okay, so not he's on 337 00:18:10,320 --> 00:18:11,840 Speaker 1: the top of his class, right, but like not only 338 00:18:11,880 --> 00:18:14,080 Speaker 1: is the top of his class, he he has the 339 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: highest test scores that anyone has ever seen, like in 340 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,200 Speaker 1: the history of university. He has the best test scores. 341 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:21,240 Speaker 1: And then he also like he takes a sivil the 342 00:18:21,280 --> 00:18:24,239 Speaker 1: Civil service exam, but like he takes it as like 343 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: you know, you're supposed to spend like four or three 344 00:18:26,840 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: or four years in college. He just takes us a 345 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:31,760 Speaker 1: second year and passes. And so you know, he has 346 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: this whole arc where he's basically like you know, he 347 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,960 Speaker 1: but for most of his career he's seen this just 348 00:18:35,760 --> 00:18:39,399 Speaker 1: it just like prodigy and it's like sort of true. 349 00:18:39,920 --> 00:18:46,600 Speaker 1: We'll get into you know, it's not being true when 350 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,760 Speaker 1: the war machine starts to come apart. But yeah, you know, 351 00:18:50,800 --> 00:18:53,359 Speaker 1: in in this period, he he makes what looks at 352 00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 1: the time like a really weird decision. Um, you know 353 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: he she's yeah, he's a projecty, like he could easily 354 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,040 Speaker 1: have entered like the home office us like that're the 355 00:19:01,119 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: Home ministry, and you know, he would have had this 356 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,560 Speaker 1: very easy career, like very safely could have become a 357 00:19:05,600 --> 00:19:09,040 Speaker 1: vice moandistic or like a governor. And instead he joins 358 00:19:09,040 --> 00:19:11,159 Speaker 1: the Ministry of Commerce, which at this point is like 359 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,000 Speaker 1: a fairly minor like government government industry. And and and he 360 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:18,119 Speaker 1: does this because specifically, like he really really wants to 361 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 1: be in charge of the Japan's industrialization process. And you 362 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:23,400 Speaker 1: know this is this is gonna be She's like big 363 00:19:23,440 --> 00:19:26,040 Speaker 1: thing over his career is he's he's he's planning be aercrat. 364 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:30,200 Speaker 1: He he's you know he yeah, like what while while 365 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,240 Speaker 1: while when he gets to the Ministry Commerce, he starts, 366 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, he does he does all this research and 367 00:19:33,560 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: send him all over the world to like look at 368 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: every people's planning models, and like he gets obsessed with 369 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:42,159 Speaker 1: like nineteen late nineteen twenties German planning stuff, which you 370 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: know looks kind of weird given what's about to happen 371 00:19:44,359 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 1: in the German economy. But yeah, and he starts advocating 372 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:50,159 Speaker 1: this thing called industrial rationalization, which is you know, this 373 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:53,479 Speaker 1: is this is like economic state planning. But you know, 374 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:55,920 Speaker 1: his the way this is sort of different from like 375 00:19:55,960 --> 00:19:58,160 Speaker 1: the Russian model, is that like he wants to still 376 00:19:58,160 --> 00:20:00,520 Speaker 1: have corporations, but he wants the core rations is sort 377 00:20:00,520 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: of be run by government beacrasts. I mean, they're still 378 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:03,679 Speaker 1: like capitalists, but like he wants to be run by 379 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:05,920 Speaker 1: government beeracrasts, and he wants them to be sort of 380 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,399 Speaker 1: run for the state interests. And you know, and this 381 00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: is the other thing about this part, Like anytime someone 382 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: says state interest and they're like a beeracrat nine thirties Japan, 383 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: what they mean is like building a war machine. And 384 00:20:16,560 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 1: so you know, you get these like weird, these weird 385 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:20,920 Speaker 1: passages where it's like you read it, this person sounds 386 00:20:20,960 --> 00:20:23,160 Speaker 1: like a socialist, and then you read like two more 387 00:20:23,200 --> 00:20:25,440 Speaker 1: paragraphs and it's like, oh, right, they want a bunch 388 00:20:25,440 --> 00:20:27,240 Speaker 1: of stay controls they can build like the largest army 389 00:20:27,240 --> 00:20:30,159 Speaker 1: the world has ever seen in over state is a 390 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:34,080 Speaker 1: gun to these Yeah, it's it's not entirely different with 391 00:20:34,080 --> 00:20:35,600 Speaker 1: like a lot of the ways the Nazis would talk 392 00:20:35,640 --> 00:20:37,720 Speaker 1: about this state, like the state in the state is 393 00:20:37,760 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: a race too, Like it's it's yeah, yeah, yeah, And 394 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, and he she the way she thinks about 395 00:20:44,080 --> 00:20:46,119 Speaker 1: this is that you know, he's gonna chart like a 396 00:20:46,240 --> 00:20:49,679 Speaker 1: third path, which we liberal happens is capitalism and communism. 397 00:20:49,720 --> 00:20:52,400 Speaker 1: And this position it becomes held by a group called 398 00:20:52,440 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: they're servi innoculously called the reform Bureaucrats. And the thing 399 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: that's important to understand about the reformed Bureaucrats that lots 400 00:20:56,840 --> 00:20:58,840 Speaker 1: of people like don't get when they study this is 401 00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:02,160 Speaker 1: that the reformed aureaucrats, like all of them, including Kishi, 402 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,960 Speaker 1: are fascists. But the thing that's different about them, and 403 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,120 Speaker 1: the thing that's you know, makes it sort of obscurest fascism, 404 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,199 Speaker 1: is that, unlike most fascists, the way they're trying to 405 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:14,800 Speaker 1: do fascism is it just works in the bureaucracy. And 406 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,760 Speaker 1: so you know that basically like they have the that 407 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: the strategy that they're gonna work for breacracy can work 408 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:21,399 Speaker 1: for the inside out. And you know, she she's aided 409 00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:24,919 Speaker 1: in this by the fact that his boss, um yesh Shinji, 410 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,760 Speaker 1: is the head of the Ministry of Commerce and Industry 411 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: and he basically just like gives Kishi free rein to 412 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 1: do whatever he wants. And so Kishi goes, Okay, we're 413 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: gonna we're gonna start doing war planning, and you know, 414 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:39,440 Speaker 1: he wants to take over, like stay control of major 415 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,639 Speaker 1: industries so they can do kind of planning for form 416 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,120 Speaker 1: military stuff. And this gains him a lot of connection 417 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,960 Speaker 1: to support in the fascist sections of the army. Now, 418 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: Keish allies with what's what's called the Control Faction of 419 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: the Army, which is founded by someone you I'll probably 420 00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:59,240 Speaker 1: name at least recognize Hideki Tojoe, which yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, 421 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:08,480 Speaker 1: failed to shoot himself in the heart yep, great stuff. 422 00:22:08,680 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah. You know what's sort of weird about the 423 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:14,680 Speaker 1: Control Faction is that like they're founded kind of ironically 424 00:22:14,720 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: like to stop another faction of the army like from 425 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:21,680 Speaker 1: doing fascism. And you know this this confuses a lot 426 00:22:21,720 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: of people because it is confusing. Yeah yeah, yeah. Do 427 00:22:25,480 --> 00:22:27,479 Speaker 1: you know, do you know what else is confusing Robert 428 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 1: Um The fact that no one has developed a system 429 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:37,720 Speaker 1: that's been capable of dethroning global capital. That is confusing. Yeah, 430 00:22:37,720 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: it is. It is confusing a lot of people say 431 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:42,399 Speaker 1: they've got the answer, but he's done it. It's true, 432 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:49,040 Speaker 1: but it's true. Yeah, I was, I was what I 433 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: was just gonna say, confusing that people don't buy our 434 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: products and services. It is that we show on here 435 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:00,000 Speaker 1: because maybe the answer to dethroning capitalism is to participate 436 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:05,200 Speaker 1: paid in it. Don't think about that too much, think 437 00:23:05,200 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 1: about these ads. Alright, we're back, all right, Chris, let's uh, 438 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:19,280 Speaker 1: let's let's continue forward. Yeah. So so, yeah, we're going 439 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 1: to talk about the absolute mess that is Japanese fascism. 440 00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:25,200 Speaker 1: So we talked about the Control of faction. The Control 441 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:28,440 Speaker 1: faction is formed to stop the the Imperial Way faction 442 00:23:28,960 --> 00:23:31,440 Speaker 1: of the army from doing terrorism. And these guys, these 443 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 1: guys hate each other, like the the Imperial Way spends 444 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: like a good part of the early thirties just like 445 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: murdering this ship out of control faction officers and both 446 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:42,560 Speaker 1: of them are just like purging each other from the army. 447 00:23:42,600 --> 00:23:44,840 Speaker 1: And this, this whole thing is part of what a britishown. 448 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,400 Speaker 1: This is called the period of government by assassination. And 449 00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: this period starts when a group of fascists, this is 450 00:23:51,040 --> 00:23:53,359 Speaker 1: one of the there's a million fascist groups in Japan, 451 00:23:53,800 --> 00:23:56,000 Speaker 1: this is one of the smaller ones, like assassinated the 452 00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,879 Speaker 1: prime minister in one and after that everyone just goes, oh, 453 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,560 Speaker 1: hold up, we can just kill ministers and so you know, 454 00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:05,159 Speaker 1: they killed this just enormous number of government officials, They 455 00:24:05,200 --> 00:24:07,359 Speaker 1: killed a bunch of politicians, they killed businessmen, like they 456 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: killed two more finance ministers, and like they do like 457 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:14,880 Speaker 1: they do. So there are so many coup attempts that 458 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,920 Speaker 1: like you could literally just do an entire podcast series 459 00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: that is just the coup attempts they attempt in these 460 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: like five years, because it's like every every different faction 461 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,040 Speaker 1: and every like possible coalition of these factions has their 462 00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 1: own coup attempts. And you know, finally, this this period 463 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:31,840 Speaker 1: sort of ends when the Imperial Way and their allies 464 00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:34,960 Speaker 1: trying to do like one last giant coup in six 465 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 1: called February twenty incidents, and they get kind of close, 466 00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: like they take a bunch of government ministries, like they 467 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,359 Speaker 1: almost killed the prime minister, they almost killed the Defense minister. 468 00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:47,040 Speaker 1: I think, I think they do kill the Defense minister, 469 00:24:47,880 --> 00:24:52,439 Speaker 1: but they lose. And after that, Japan, the Japanese government 470 00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,320 Speaker 1: is just like, Okay, we're just gonna kill you all, 471 00:24:54,800 --> 00:24:57,959 Speaker 1: and so they do this like mass execution of of 472 00:24:58,000 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: like every fascist leader they can get their hands on, 473 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 1: in being uh Ichikdo, who is not involved in this 474 00:25:03,119 --> 00:25:05,560 Speaker 1: in any way. But just like on principle, they were like, okay, 475 00:25:05,560 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: the one thing all the fascist to be arounds that 476 00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,439 Speaker 1: they like you, so we're just gonna assassinate you, and 477 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:10,959 Speaker 1: so well they don't say something that they put them 478 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:12,680 Speaker 1: on trial and a show trial and convictim and killed 479 00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 1: them all, and a lot of people, including you know, 480 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:20,640 Speaker 1: people who are like pretty reliable fascism scholars like Robert Paxton, 481 00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:23,560 Speaker 1: We'll look at this trial and go, oh, well, okay, 482 00:25:23,560 --> 00:25:25,160 Speaker 1: this this is this is like this is as if 483 00:25:25,200 --> 00:25:27,280 Speaker 1: like I don't know, like Moosi leads martial, Weba failed 484 00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: and like this is the end of fashions in Japan. 485 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 1: And I think they're wrong. And the reason I think 486 00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 1: they're wrong is that if they're looking for the fascist 487 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:39,880 Speaker 1: revolution in Japan itself, and the fascist revolution doesn't happen 488 00:25:39,880 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: in Japan, it happens in Manchuria. Now we we we 489 00:25:44,160 --> 00:25:47,560 Speaker 1: have talked about Manchuria before on this show UM D 490 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:51,320 Speaker 1: D Chong episodes. Um it's you know, it's it's it's 491 00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:53,560 Speaker 1: it's like the northeast China equivalent New England that like 492 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:56,080 Speaker 1: you know, Portos, Russia borders Korea. It's really close to 493 00:25:56,160 --> 00:26:00,960 Speaker 1: Japan also boris Mongolia. Um know that there's there's a 494 00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: lot of industry there, and you know it's it's it's 495 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 1: the base of Jong's boss, who's also named Jong Junctu Ling, 496 00:26:07,480 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: and you know he he's the warlord that Japan had 497 00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: been backing, dream dreamed in the whole world periods of 498 00:26:12,560 --> 00:26:15,399 Speaker 1: a civil war era. But both Jongs lose the war 499 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: against Chinese nationalists. And you know, like when when when 500 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 1: we last left Mancharia, like a bunch of piste off 501 00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:25,159 Speaker 1: Japanese officers had just like bomb Junctu Ling's train, and 502 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:27,760 Speaker 1: you know, after that, Manchuria sort of falls into the 503 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,280 Speaker 1: hand of the nationalists. It becomes technically part of the 504 00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,600 Speaker 1: Chinese Republic. And this is where okay, things have always 505 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:34,840 Speaker 1: been weird to man sure, this is where they get 506 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,879 Speaker 1: even weirder. UM anarchist revolution breaks out in Shiman Prefecture 507 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:43,000 Speaker 1: that calls itself the Korean People Association to Mancharia. Now 508 00:26:43,160 --> 00:26:46,520 Speaker 1: Shimman's like right on the border with between Mancharia and Korea. 509 00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: And this anarchist revolution is driven in large part by 510 00:26:51,359 --> 00:26:54,520 Speaker 1: this enormous Korema million like two million people like Koreans 511 00:26:54,560 --> 00:26:58,200 Speaker 1: have fled to the Japanese occupation in uh you know, 512 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: the Jackie is Japanese occupation of Korea and into Mancharia, 513 00:27:01,720 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: and you know, and you know, and it's it's it's 514 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,240 Speaker 1: a weird project because you have a bunch of you 515 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,440 Speaker 1: have a bunch of anarchists, and you also have a 516 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 1: bunch of Korean nationals working with each other because the 517 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: thing both of them agree on is that they hate 518 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,680 Speaker 1: the Japanese. And you know that the anarchists sort of 519 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:17,400 Speaker 1: take the lead. They formed a bunch of these councils. 520 00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 1: They start organizing the economy, aroun mutual aid, and you know, 521 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:22,320 Speaker 1: they start to set up the education system. They do 522 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:24,159 Speaker 1: all this stuff, and then everyone immediately start trying to 523 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:27,840 Speaker 1: kill them, and so as as is like anarchist tradition, 524 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:31,760 Speaker 1: the Soviets start immediately assassinating people. Um if these guys 525 00:27:32,000 --> 00:27:34,480 Speaker 1: have another disadvantage, which is that the Japanese army also 526 00:27:34,480 --> 00:27:37,480 Speaker 1: starts assassinating them, and eventually this this whole sort of 527 00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:41,320 Speaker 1: anarchist like prefecture, sort of mini territory collapses nine thirty one. 528 00:27:41,440 --> 00:27:43,480 Speaker 1: When you know that the incident that I would consider 529 00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 1: the actual sort of fascist coup in Japan starts, which 530 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:49,280 Speaker 1: is it is the Muckton incident that triggers this full 531 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,560 Speaker 1: scale Japanese invasion of all of Mancharia. Now, the Muckton 532 00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 1: incidents extremely weird. Basically, what happened is that a group 533 00:27:58,359 --> 00:28:02,119 Speaker 1: of officers in the Quantung Army, which is the japan 534 00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,280 Speaker 1: has this army in Manchuria that's there to like protect 535 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:07,280 Speaker 1: their railroads basically because Japan like tendically owns all the land, 536 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:09,520 Speaker 1: the railroads a wrong, they have some other concessions, and 537 00:28:09,600 --> 00:28:11,520 Speaker 1: so they have this army that's just like in Manchuria 538 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 1: that they can legally have, and the offer some of 539 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760 Speaker 1: the officers at that army basically look at the situation, 540 00:28:17,840 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 1: they look at what's happening the rest of trying to 541 00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: look at the anarchist revolution, and they're like, okay, we 542 00:28:21,480 --> 00:28:24,480 Speaker 1: need to take over Manchuria like entirely. But you know, 543 00:28:24,560 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 1: they have no they don't have like a natural pretext. 544 00:28:26,200 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: So they stage a false flag, false flag attack on 545 00:28:28,480 --> 00:28:31,520 Speaker 1: their own railroad and use the attack as like a 546 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:33,680 Speaker 1: free tense that started a full scale invasion in Manchuria. 547 00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: And yeah, it's it's bad, it's and the other other 548 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: phone part about this story that We're talking more about 549 00:28:39,200 --> 00:28:42,080 Speaker 1: Yakuza later, but like those guys, so they go to 550 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 1: like the Japanese government. In Japanese governments like, you cannot 551 00:28:45,040 --> 00:28:47,280 Speaker 1: do this, and so they go to some right wing 552 00:28:47,400 --> 00:28:49,040 Speaker 1: industrialists trying to get funding, and they won't do it. 553 00:28:49,040 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: And the people who will fund them are the Yakuza, 554 00:28:51,240 --> 00:28:53,320 Speaker 1: and so that they have like like thirty million yen 555 00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,840 Speaker 1: just just like from the Yakuza that the Yakas are 556 00:28:55,920 --> 00:28:57,920 Speaker 1: like here, yeah, used to take over from Manchuria. And 557 00:28:58,000 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: so they do. And you know, and the civilian government 558 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,840 Speaker 1: in Japan doesn't want this, but they basically have no 559 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 1: choice because the invasion is like incredibly popular among the 560 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,360 Speaker 1: Japanese like public, and you know, one of the reasons 561 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,680 Speaker 1: it's popular is that it you know, there's very I mean, 562 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,480 Speaker 1: there is some fighting, but Shinkai check in the Nationalists 563 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 1: are you know, they're deep in their civil war with 564 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,720 Speaker 1: Mao and the communists in China, and they're just like, okay, Japan, 565 00:29:21,760 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 1: you can just have this, and so they let they 566 00:29:23,560 --> 00:29:25,960 Speaker 1: let them have this without without a fight. And the 567 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,240 Speaker 1: consequence is that the Quantuan army, which is you know, 568 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: it's chocked full of imperial way followers. The whole there's 569 00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: like the whole army is just a bunch of different 570 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: people in different fascist groups. These guys wind up ending 571 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:39,200 Speaker 1: up in charge of setting up a new state in 572 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: Materia called by Chuqua. And the product of this is 573 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 1: you get and it's just an extremely weird state with 574 00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: like sixteen different versions of fascism, and you know, this 575 00:29:48,920 --> 00:29:51,240 Speaker 1: is supposed to be like an independent state, and it 576 00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:55,640 Speaker 1: like kind of is a little bit like they install Pouyee, 577 00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:57,840 Speaker 1: who's like the last emperor of China as like the 578 00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:00,120 Speaker 1: Emperor of Machuqua, like this new state, and you know, 579 00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 1: they have all this propaganda about like the state's gonna 580 00:30:02,720 --> 00:30:05,160 Speaker 1: have are gonna restore the kingly way, and it's going 581 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,200 Speaker 1: to be like a direct relationship between the emperor and 582 00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: the will of the people, and there's gonna be these 583 00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:11,680 Speaker 1: like autonomous agrarian villages ruled by landlords and everyone's gonna 584 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: like live in harmony. And did that? Did that happen? 585 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:21,480 Speaker 1: So so the strongest group in in in in this 586 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: like sort of nude fascist utopia. It is called the 587 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:28,680 Speaker 1: Concorde Association, and they're this like they're this like fascist 588 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: pan Asian group that you know, they have this whole 589 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 1: line about like okay, we're doing ethnic harmony and like 590 00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:35,400 Speaker 1: all the races are gonna work together, We're gonna work 591 00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: together to like expel the like the wide imperialists. And 592 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:41,160 Speaker 1: the reason they take this line is that like the 593 00:30:41,280 --> 00:30:44,520 Speaker 1: actual Chinese people there don't want Thementaria, they don't want 594 00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,160 Speaker 1: the Manchucal government there because they're like, okay, all of 595 00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: the officers in this thing and all of the government 596 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 1: officials or Japanese like this is this is just a 597 00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: Japanese occupation, but you know, you have this sort of 598 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 1: this this fascist like mass organization, and their goal is 599 00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,280 Speaker 1: to build popular support for this because you know, the 600 00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: Japanese can't really just purely hold this a military force 601 00:31:04,720 --> 00:31:07,280 Speaker 1: at this point. So they have this public government and 602 00:31:07,960 --> 00:31:10,760 Speaker 1: you know, for about two years they really they rule 603 00:31:10,840 --> 00:31:14,960 Speaker 1: like relatively unopposed. But in age thirty three, the Communist 604 00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: Party sort of at the at the behest of the 605 00:31:17,560 --> 00:31:18,680 Speaker 1: U S s R. The USR is like, okay, you 606 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: guys need to do this, and so the CCP goes okay, 607 00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:22,680 Speaker 1: and what they do is that they start like the 608 00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,719 Speaker 1: series of insurrections launched at like driving the Japanese out, 609 00:31:26,200 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: and the Japanese responded by slaughter the entire villages very 610 00:31:31,560 --> 00:31:34,920 Speaker 1: kingly way, very very very harmony between the races that 611 00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,360 Speaker 1: there's you know, there's individual villages where they walk in 612 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: they killed they killed two thousand, five hundred people in 613 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:44,680 Speaker 1: like a single massacre and you know, betweteen forty they 614 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,400 Speaker 1: kill sixty people trying to suppress the communists, and they 615 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 1: move at five point five million people most mostly real 616 00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: people into these like the ten thousands of these hamlets, 617 00:31:55,640 --> 00:31:59,200 Speaker 1: which I think if if if anyone studied the Vietnam 618 00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: War and you were prestigia handlets from that, like this 619 00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: is that like these handlets have they have three they 620 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,239 Speaker 1: have three meter high walls, they have barred wire, they 621 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,480 Speaker 1: have forced labor, and so you know, this is this 622 00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,720 Speaker 1: is this is the state of like this, this is 623 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:13,800 Speaker 1: the state of like the Kingly Way in in in 624 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,000 Speaker 1: sort of fascist menshuko. Yeah, and it's you know, I 625 00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,040 Speaker 1: mean one of the things that I think is and 626 00:32:18,160 --> 00:32:21,000 Speaker 1: that you were getting get earlier when people talk about 627 00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,479 Speaker 1: kind of the rise of the the o G fascists, um, 628 00:32:24,640 --> 00:32:27,720 Speaker 1: it tends to be very eurocentric, but there's very much 629 00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: an open exchange of ideas that the Japanese are a 630 00:32:30,760 --> 00:32:33,560 Speaker 1: part of that's that's going, but that includes concentration camps 631 00:32:33,600 --> 00:32:36,440 Speaker 1: and it's not just and to that point, the Japanese 632 00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:39,360 Speaker 1: are probably they're they're not really I would doubt their 633 00:32:39,400 --> 00:32:42,640 Speaker 1: inspiration is the German concentration camps or anything that a 634 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:46,760 Speaker 1: fascist well that a recognize like what we can traditionally 635 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: consider a fascist power zone. They were probably looking back 636 00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: at the Spanish and the British, my guess, yeah, yeah, 637 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: and the United States possibly is the Spanish. The concentration 638 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:02,040 Speaker 1: camp concept kind of originated from Spanish general who deployed 639 00:33:02,040 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: it in Cuba, but he got the idea from embedding 640 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:07,880 Speaker 1: with the U. S. Military after the Civil War. Anyway, Yeah, well, 641 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:09,120 Speaker 1: and you know, and you can you can treat it 642 00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 1: sort of more directly too, because like all of that stuff, 643 00:33:11,840 --> 00:33:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, it boom boomerangs back to the Philippines and 644 00:33:14,400 --> 00:33:17,320 Speaker 1: the American occupation there, and like you know, then that 645 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,960 Speaker 1: that's one of the things, this is one of the 646 00:33:20,040 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: reasons that that stuff, like all the stuff he uses 647 00:33:22,200 --> 00:33:25,440 Speaker 1: in the Philippines, that that is like in large part, 648 00:33:25,840 --> 00:33:27,560 Speaker 1: like that's a big part of the reason why this 649 00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: sort of Japanese very fission to fascism is is popular 650 00:33:30,680 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 1: to some extent in East Asia because you know, okay, 651 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:36,480 Speaker 1: but before they like really openly start to massacre everyone. 652 00:33:36,640 --> 00:33:39,000 Speaker 1: You know, it's just popular because I mean, japan Seed 653 00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 1: is like the only power, you know, the only not 654 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 1: my power in the East that can that can resist 655 00:33:42,960 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: just the app I mean just the just incredible genocides 656 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:50,720 Speaker 1: that just like absolute horror that that that that is 657 00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: happening just across the rest of East Asia. Awesome, It's 658 00:33:55,120 --> 00:33:59,240 Speaker 1: it's great. And yes, so Keishi starts becoming interested in 659 00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,880 Speaker 1: Menshuk around nineteen thirty four, and partly he's interested in 660 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 1: it because of the fascism, but his big interest in 661 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:08,760 Speaker 1: Machuqua is the natural resources in the sort of industrial 662 00:34:08,800 --> 00:34:11,800 Speaker 1: base it has, and through through his sort of position 663 00:34:11,840 --> 00:34:14,239 Speaker 1: in the in the government bureaucracy, she's able to start 664 00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:18,360 Speaker 1: working on on the first Manchuqua five year Plan. Now, 665 00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,000 Speaker 1: now it sort of weirdly, you know, the fascist officers 666 00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:25,160 Speaker 1: who are who are in the Japanese army there, uh, 667 00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,480 Speaker 1: they want this whole thing to be like an independent 668 00:34:29,280 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: like state that's like free from the like corruption of 669 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: liberalism and capitalism and stuff. From whatever that that like, 670 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 1: you know, it makes makes Japan like in Pierre and 671 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:40,279 Speaker 1: like the loose relation to the empire. And she she 672 00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:42,040 Speaker 1: looks at this and goes like, okay, wait, but we 673 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: we want we want we want this state to help 674 00:34:44,840 --> 00:34:48,440 Speaker 1: run our war machine. And you know, and he this 675 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: five year plan is is this giant like war mobilization 676 00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 1: thing to create this sort of they called the National 677 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:56,200 Speaker 1: Defense State. But basically like it's turning the entire society 678 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,480 Speaker 1: and the entire state, the entire economy into a war economy. 679 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: And his plan to do this is She's going to 680 00:35:01,239 --> 00:35:04,919 Speaker 1: bring in Nissan and have Nissan run like every war 681 00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:10,280 Speaker 1: industry in Manchuqua. Well, Nissan almost makes an acceptable truck, 682 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:16,760 Speaker 1: so you know almost, you know, it verges on being 683 00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: as good as a ram Uh. Look, Nissan cars are 684 00:35:22,080 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 1: are are all right, but don't don't use them for 685 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:29,640 Speaker 1: agricultural work. Get it to coma. Now, if you're telling 686 00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,120 Speaker 1: me they wanted to put Toyota in charge of everything, 687 00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,960 Speaker 1: we say, that seems like a flawless plan. I'll bet 688 00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: Toyota has never been involved in any kinds of crimes 689 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,000 Speaker 1: against humanity. You know, there's there's that, there's there's like 690 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 1: a fun there's a fun thing here where So so 691 00:35:44,760 --> 00:35:46,719 Speaker 1: the there's these things in Japan called does I about 692 00:35:46,760 --> 00:35:49,239 Speaker 1: Sue and it's about and you know, there's these like 693 00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,560 Speaker 1: giant mega lambres like that the people who own like 694 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:53,920 Speaker 1: Toyota are one of the conglomerates. Nissan is another one 695 00:35:53,960 --> 00:35:55,840 Speaker 1: of them. And like the army and most of the 696 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,279 Speaker 1: fashions like hate these guys because they see these like 697 00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: giant capitalist things. Is like this is like a Western thing. 698 00:36:02,040 --> 00:36:04,919 Speaker 1: It's like unpeered. They let these corrupt bureaucrats and again 699 00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,000 Speaker 1: in the way of us and the emperor, and so 700 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:09,320 Speaker 1: like she she has to like do this incredibly elaborate 701 00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,320 Speaker 1: dance to convince all of the the fascist officers in 702 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:15,080 Speaker 1: in in Manchukuo that like, no, no, no, Nissan is 703 00:36:15,120 --> 00:36:17,719 Speaker 1: not like Toyota, that they're they're not like the other conglomerates. 704 00:36:17,800 --> 00:36:20,239 Speaker 1: Y're not like Mishibi through a new conglomerate, and they're 705 00:36:20,239 --> 00:36:24,360 Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna do fascism for us. And this 706 00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:29,040 Speaker 1: works eventually, um and she gets transferred fully to Maduria 707 00:36:30,280 --> 00:36:34,320 Speaker 1: and all of this stuff gets approved basically because she's 708 00:36:34,400 --> 00:36:36,839 Speaker 1: moving in there and proposing this this five year plan, 709 00:36:36,880 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: which is the normal is expensive, by the way, But 710 00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 1: but the reason, the reason that she's able to do 711 00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:44,440 Speaker 1: this is rights is getting in there. The Second Sino 712 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:48,239 Speaker 1: Japanese War starts, which is part of World War two 713 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:51,040 Speaker 1: kind of kind of its own thing. I don't know, 714 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:54,399 Speaker 1: there's a lot of running arguments. They had a war 715 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:58,920 Speaker 1: that was in its brutality and death toll comparable to 716 00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:01,319 Speaker 1: World War Two. With the same time World War Two 717 00:37:01,480 --> 00:37:06,600 Speaker 1: was going on. Um, you know, I occasionally Americans noticed it. 718 00:37:06,680 --> 00:37:09,320 Speaker 1: There's some good Woody Guthree songs that thank the mighty 719 00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:13,640 Speaker 1: Chinese vets. But um, yeah, you know what I mean, 720 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,560 Speaker 1: like that, there's this whole thing like I mean like 721 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,360 Speaker 1: like in China, like a lot like it's like that 722 00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:19,640 Speaker 1: whole war is called the Anti Japanese War or the 723 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:23,880 Speaker 1: war resistance, because yeah, you know, because like like that, 724 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,520 Speaker 1: like you know, for most of the time this is happening, 725 00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 1: they from for about three or four years, China is 726 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:34,200 Speaker 1: just fighting the entire Japanese army by itself, and you 727 00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:37,000 Speaker 1: know this is yeah, well we'll we'll we'll get into 728 00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:41,240 Speaker 1: the stuff that that that the Chinese government is always 729 00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 1: going to sort of suffer in this. But you know, 730 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,600 Speaker 1: but the consequence of this for Chi she is that 731 00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: like he gets just total economic power and sort of 732 00:37:50,960 --> 00:37:52,760 Speaker 1: political power menure. He can just you can do literally 733 00:37:52,800 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 1: whatever he wants. And the thing that he wants to 734 00:37:55,800 --> 00:37:57,880 Speaker 1: do so okay. So so his big thing is his 735 00:37:57,960 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: big major thing is he wants to implement the five 736 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 1: year plan to you know, turn this Joe warconto me. 737 00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:03,879 Speaker 1: The second thing he wants to do is just get 738 00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:08,240 Speaker 1: absolutely wasted literally every single night, like he she okay, 739 00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,080 Speaker 1: well that scans Look if you're gonna be war crim 740 00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,400 Speaker 1: sober yeah no he yeah, And like you know, like 741 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: all of the sort of Japanese officers and Japanese bearcats 742 00:38:18,440 --> 00:38:21,440 Speaker 1: like go clubbing, but like even the other like the 743 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:25,160 Speaker 1: other versa. I know, every now and then I go 744 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,160 Speaker 1: out club and get a little drunk with my friends, 745 00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,160 Speaker 1: commit a couple of war crimes. This is padlock an 746 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:42,640 Speaker 1: apartment gate closed with anyway, all right, what this continue? God? Well, 747 00:38:43,480 --> 00:38:46,160 Speaker 1: the thing with Kishi is like, okay, so everyone's doing 748 00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,400 Speaker 1: this a bit at the time. She she is literally 749 00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,279 Speaker 1: going to clubs and getting wasted every single night. Like 750 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,040 Speaker 1: even the yakuza people are like, what are you doing 751 00:38:55,960 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: like it's like I have to take a second here 752 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:03,120 Speaker 1: to tell the story about the absolute shattist Japanese officer 753 00:39:03,160 --> 00:39:04,799 Speaker 1: I've ever heard of. So when I was in I've 754 00:39:04,840 --> 00:39:06,919 Speaker 1: been Okinawa a couple of times because my parents lived 755 00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 1: there for years and years and years, both when they 756 00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:11,399 Speaker 1: were kids and then later as adults. And like, I'm 757 00:39:11,400 --> 00:39:14,640 Speaker 1: not trying to like whitewash the problems with American bases. 758 00:39:14,920 --> 00:39:17,400 Speaker 1: There's a big, very active and I think very righteous 759 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: movement try to remove the basis on Okinawa. But we're 760 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,440 Speaker 1: gonna talk about the origin of that too. Yeah, I 761 00:39:21,520 --> 00:39:23,920 Speaker 1: had I I had no no say in any of that. 762 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,600 Speaker 1: My parents just lived there. Um. But so I went 763 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:30,000 Speaker 1: on this tour of like sites from World War two 764 00:39:30,080 --> 00:39:32,520 Speaker 1: on on Okinawa, and one of the stories they told 765 00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,520 Speaker 1: us was about this Japanese officer who when the Americans 766 00:39:35,560 --> 00:39:38,799 Speaker 1: invaded Okinawa, he was at a brothel just like, had 767 00:39:38,840 --> 00:39:43,280 Speaker 1: been drunk and fucking for days, and they Americans advanced 768 00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:45,960 Speaker 1: quickly enough that by the time he sobered up, he 769 00:39:46,040 --> 00:39:50,320 Speaker 1: found himself several miles behind the American lines and alone, 770 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:54,720 Speaker 1: hung over and having just fucked himself, silly snuck past 771 00:39:54,800 --> 00:39:57,360 Speaker 1: the American lines. Made it back to his unit and 772 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,480 Speaker 1: then proceeded to lead them in battle for weeks. Is 773 00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:05,200 Speaker 1: incredible chat energy. You know. I say this so like 774 00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: like this is just that's just the default condition of 775 00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,600 Speaker 1: the Japanese officer cord in this whole war like that, 776 00:40:10,760 --> 00:40:12,640 Speaker 1: that's like they like this is this is what they're 777 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,920 Speaker 1: doing all of the time. If it weren't for the 778 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:18,759 Speaker 1: millions of dead, it would be a real rock situation. Yeah, 779 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,279 Speaker 1: Like you know, like we're not saying these dudes rock. No, 780 00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: these dudes in fact do not rock. Do not rock. 781 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,280 Speaker 1: And I'm going to emphasize this by like how cringe 782 00:40:27,360 --> 00:40:30,480 Speaker 1: Kishi actually is, Like okay, so there there's a quote 783 00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: of Kishi where he he said he describes himself as 784 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,279 Speaker 1: and this is a direct quote quote Playboy of the 785 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:44,640 Speaker 1: Eastern World, Like she just calls himself this, okay, Yeah, 786 00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:48,440 Speaker 1: you know. He also spends just like an enormous amount 787 00:40:48,440 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: of time in in the brothels. Do we have a 788 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: picture of this man? I feel like I need a 789 00:40:53,440 --> 00:40:58,000 Speaker 1: visual of somebody who would dare to give themselves that title. Unfortunately, 790 00:40:58,040 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 1: most of the pictures of him are from like when 791 00:40:59,800 --> 00:41:03,359 Speaker 1: he's old Dick Pills look if you're gonna be, if 792 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:06,880 Speaker 1: you're gonna if you're gonna be fucking like a Japanese 793 00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:10,800 Speaker 1: imperial officer, you're gonna need dick pills. Look, there's no 794 00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:16,160 Speaker 1: shame in it. Like the best athletes like Lance arms 795 00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:20,520 Speaker 1: Strong fuck Like yes, the saying is Keishi probably needed 796 00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: dick pills. I'm sure he did. If you're going to 797 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:29,400 Speaker 1: be the Lance arms Strong of lecherous Japanese military officers, 798 00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna use some. You're gonna dope, and that's fine, 799 00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:42,359 Speaker 1: and that's why we sell dope. Dick dope. Here's some ads. Okay, 800 00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:46,640 Speaker 1: this man is this man is not like Okay, Okay, 801 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:50,000 Speaker 1: That's all I'll say is he's not it. Okay, But Sophie, 802 00:41:50,200 --> 00:41:54,359 Speaker 1: I think if if there's one reason why men join 803 00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: imperial militaries and travel to foreign lands to do violence, 804 00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,520 Speaker 1: it's because it's yeah, he's here for them to get 805 00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,240 Speaker 1: laid that because they're not they're not. You know, people 806 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,920 Speaker 1: who were like really pulling it in back home generally 807 00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: don't invade foreign countries. I mean, fair enough, the Nazis 808 00:42:12,880 --> 00:42:15,240 Speaker 1: still not a lot of guys who were like knocking 809 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,440 Speaker 1: it out of the park with the with the with 810 00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: the exception of oh ship what was his name? The 811 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,960 Speaker 1: guy Hitler had killed in the Night of Long Nights. 812 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,279 Speaker 1: Ernst Rome was pulling it down, and it's baffling that 813 00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:29,759 Speaker 1: he became a Nazi in the ship. But anyway, whatever, 814 00:42:30,000 --> 00:42:32,920 Speaker 1: I mean, this man does have like a decent like no, 815 00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:38,200 Speaker 1: he doesn't take it. I've got I've gotten, Sophie, this 816 00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:43,040 Speaker 1: discussion on our side podcasts. How fuckable was this war criminal? Yeah, 817 00:42:43,040 --> 00:42:45,320 Speaker 1: I mean coming out on the I Heart radio network 818 00:42:45,400 --> 00:42:49,239 Speaker 1: and July of you just went back in time. But 819 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:54,400 Speaker 1: that's so I know, Sophie, Chris. Would you like to 820 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,799 Speaker 1: continue this podcast? We've del guest. Sophie's derailed you enough. 821 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:03,080 Speaker 1: I will fight you continue. Yeah, well, I'd like to 822 00:43:03,120 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: see you try. Robert is actually like Robert is kind 823 00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,320 Speaker 1: of onto something on the like the reason you go 824 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: to do imperialism is so you can just like have 825 00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:17,080 Speaker 1: sex constantly. Yeah, absolutely, well you know and did yeah yeah, 826 00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:18,360 Speaker 1: And this is what the Japanese is doing it. And 827 00:43:18,600 --> 00:43:20,600 Speaker 1: this is where we should mention that Kishi is an 828 00:43:20,640 --> 00:43:26,040 Speaker 1: inveterate rapist, like like sereal mass rapist. Um. Yes, so 829 00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:31,919 Speaker 1: so those those brothels I was talking about, so well, yeah, 830 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,440 Speaker 1: so there's there's like there's like a small number of 831 00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:38,240 Speaker 1: people in there who, like our sex workers, like eighty 832 00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:40,360 Speaker 1: to ninety percent of those people were just like kidnapped 833 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,279 Speaker 1: from Japan and like brought there by force. And yeah, 834 00:43:44,400 --> 00:43:46,360 Speaker 1: and so you know, and this is you know, and 835 00:43:46,560 --> 00:43:49,960 Speaker 1: she's going there like every like one or two days. Right, 836 00:43:50,040 --> 00:43:52,320 Speaker 1: he's at one of these brothels. And you know, Okay, 837 00:43:52,520 --> 00:43:55,880 Speaker 1: even if like somehow, like by like some miracle, he 838 00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 1: somehow only had conseexual sex there, he's also just like 839 00:43:59,800 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: he he's like he has one of the weirdest like 840 00:44:02,640 --> 00:44:04,680 Speaker 1: sex things I've ever heard of, which is that like 841 00:44:05,040 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: every time like he was served a meal, he would 842 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:12,440 Speaker 1: demand to have sex with the raitress. Um. Yeah, it's yeah, 843 00:44:12,719 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: you know and like those those people, like those women 844 00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:18,640 Speaker 1: like absolutely did not consent to that, which means he 845 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:21,880 Speaker 1: is like this man. Yeah, he is like raping people 846 00:44:21,960 --> 00:44:25,640 Speaker 1: like basically every day. So far as to say that 847 00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:29,359 Speaker 1: in most situations, you can't properly consent to a man 848 00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:33,399 Speaker 1: occupying your country with armed force, now, I will say 849 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,280 Speaker 1: I will say so so because because he is a racist, 850 00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:39,000 Speaker 1: like inveterate racist, he will only sleep a Japanese women. 851 00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:42,440 Speaker 1: But those people were also brought there by force by 852 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,800 Speaker 1: by the opposite and she so. So while he's imprisoned 853 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,600 Speaker 1: in Ete forty eight, he has there he has an 854 00:44:48,640 --> 00:44:51,840 Speaker 1: interview and his description of this time is quote, I 855 00:44:52,000 --> 00:44:54,040 Speaker 1: came so much it was hard to clean it all up. 856 00:44:54,320 --> 00:44:56,640 Speaker 1: Like he has like he has he has a he 857 00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:58,520 Speaker 1: has a guy, Like he has a specific guy. He's 858 00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:00,719 Speaker 1: like a specific maid who's job it is to clean 859 00:45:00,800 --> 00:45:05,520 Speaker 1: up his sheets every night. Like yeah, he's God and 860 00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: you know he's got to come servant. That's yeah, this 861 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:11,200 Speaker 1: is like a thing. This is like a lot of 862 00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:14,000 Speaker 1: the like the weird Japanese sex fascists. Like there's like 863 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:15,799 Speaker 1: a person who has to clean up all their ships. 864 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:17,839 Speaker 1: Like there's there's I'm blanking on Blanco name. Like there's 865 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:21,680 Speaker 1: that famous, uh, like fascist Japanese poet who's like like 866 00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,319 Speaker 1: the Japanese Nobel laureate who's a fascist and like kills 867 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:26,680 Speaker 1: himself in the sixtet or something when when his coup fails, 868 00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:30,239 Speaker 1: like that guy. Also, yeah, like there's there's a person 869 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:32,960 Speaker 1: who had to clean out his sheets and like his 870 00:45:33,120 --> 00:45:38,000 Speaker 1: robes and ship. Also check out my upcoming punk band 871 00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:42,839 Speaker 1: out weird Japanese sex fascist. Yeah. There, there's gonna be more. 872 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,560 Speaker 1: Don't worry where we we have not yet reached the 873 00:45:45,680 --> 00:45:50,560 Speaker 1: weirdest of the Japanese sex fascist that's coming next episode. Yeah, 874 00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:56,160 Speaker 1: quotes in this episode already. Yeah, you know, but I mean, 875 00:45:56,200 --> 00:45:59,000 Speaker 1: like so like the fact that he's raping women like 876 00:45:59,160 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: every day. I think like this helps explain what otherwise 877 00:46:03,880 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: I think is kind of almost unexplainable thing that we're 878 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:08,920 Speaker 1: going to talk about in a bit, just like the 879 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,560 Speaker 1: amount of violence that we're about to see. But you know, 880 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,360 Speaker 1: so the other thing that's happening here, she's going to 881 00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,839 Speaker 1: brothels like it's not It starts out as just like keis, 882 00:46:17,880 --> 00:46:21,520 Speaker 1: she's like a statistic rapist, but he also is doing 883 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,759 Speaker 1: official business there, and and his official business is that 884 00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 1: he's networking with local yakus at bosses. And this is 885 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:28,920 Speaker 1: where we get to sort of like formally introduce the 886 00:46:29,080 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: third piece of the sort of fascist triad in Japan. 887 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,080 Speaker 1: So you know, you have you have fascist army officers. 888 00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:37,120 Speaker 1: Do you have people like Kishi who are bureacrat technically 889 00:46:37,120 --> 00:46:39,920 Speaker 1: civilian bureaucrats, but you know, are also fascist and working 890 00:46:39,920 --> 00:46:42,080 Speaker 1: through the sort of planning agencies there, and the third 891 00:46:42,120 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 1: wheel is organized crime. Now the yakuza there there. You 892 00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: know a lot of organized crime winds up sort of 893 00:46:49,239 --> 00:46:52,880 Speaker 1: backing fascists. But the yakuza are different from you know, 894 00:46:52,920 --> 00:46:56,879 Speaker 1: say like the Italian mafia in that they're like fanatically 895 00:46:56,960 --> 00:46:58,760 Speaker 1: right wing and they have been basically in the eighteen seventies, 896 00:46:58,760 --> 00:47:00,840 Speaker 1: and they're like these are like the Yakas are a 897 00:47:01,080 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: lot of people who invented fascism in Japan. Like they're 898 00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,480 Speaker 1: they're like they're like the first proto proto fascist groups. 899 00:47:05,520 --> 00:47:09,080 Speaker 1: Are are these like giant Yakasa organizations and they're I 900 00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,480 Speaker 1: mean they're really tied in with the state that there's 901 00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,759 Speaker 1: this story about how like so one of the one 902 00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:15,680 Speaker 1: of the first giant yakas a fascist groups is called 903 00:47:15,760 --> 00:47:19,120 Speaker 1: the Dark Ocean Society. And these guys, you know that 904 00:47:19,200 --> 00:47:21,719 Speaker 1: their triads like they did they're doing drug stuff. But 905 00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:25,360 Speaker 1: like the Japanese Ministry of the Interior asks them to 906 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,200 Speaker 1: like this this isn't like ninety ten. They asked them 907 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,600 Speaker 1: to help like Japan's stage and incident that will let 908 00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:33,120 Speaker 1: them invade Korea. And so like these guys like they 909 00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,920 Speaker 1: have like they have like special forces training myself. Oh no, 910 00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,840 Speaker 1: oh yeah, I mean you know, that's what's what you 911 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:43,200 Speaker 1: do when you're young. Everyone's got to do a little 912 00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,200 Speaker 1: bit of invading Korea. It's yeah, yeah, well, as long 913 00:47:46,239 --> 00:47:50,239 Speaker 1: as you don't take it too far, it's fine. Oh boy, yeah, 914 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:52,120 Speaker 1: we're well, yeah, we're we're gonna get your taking it 915 00:47:52,239 --> 00:47:54,120 Speaker 1: too far. But you know, like the thing is, like 916 00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,839 Speaker 1: these guys like they like break into the Imperial Palace 917 00:47:56,840 --> 00:48:02,680 Speaker 1: and assassinate the Empress of Korea. Like yeah yeah, Like 918 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,120 Speaker 1: the like the Akasa, like they have they have military training, 919 00:48:05,160 --> 00:48:08,720 Speaker 1: they have intelligence training, they're they're incredibly efficient political source, 920 00:48:09,120 --> 00:48:12,560 Speaker 1: like like sort of private political operation. And when Kishi 921 00:48:12,600 --> 00:48:15,000 Speaker 1: meets with them, they basically just agree to solve all 922 00:48:15,040 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: of Kishi's funding problems. And you know, they can do 923 00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:20,400 Speaker 1: this because the japan like the Akasa has an enormous 924 00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:23,160 Speaker 1: amount of the accusan and Mentua is like an enormous 925 00:48:23,160 --> 00:48:25,160 Speaker 1: amount of money. And the reason I have this money 926 00:48:25,280 --> 00:48:28,640 Speaker 1: is because they run the drug trade. Like basically it's 927 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:31,160 Speaker 1: a good way to make money. Yeah yeah, yeah, And 928 00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,279 Speaker 1: you know, and Kishi she basically like offers to like 929 00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,640 Speaker 1: formally let him into the Japanese state and you know, 930 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 1: and the everything is offering them was like, hey, you 931 00:48:38,520 --> 00:48:40,840 Speaker 1: guys want to do fascism, Like if you fund me, 932 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,160 Speaker 1: I will do so much fascism. And the accus is 933 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:46,200 Speaker 1: like hell yeah. And you know, and this is this 934 00:48:46,239 --> 00:48:47,799 Speaker 1: is the thing I don't think people understand, but about 935 00:48:47,800 --> 00:48:50,600 Speaker 1: the Japanese Empire, like it's a cartel, Like the whole 936 00:48:50,600 --> 00:48:52,320 Speaker 1: thing is a cartels. It's like a cartel with like 937 00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:54,200 Speaker 1: an army and a bureaucracy strap to it. And and 938 00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: this is especially true true and menchu Quo, where you know, 939 00:48:57,480 --> 00:49:00,360 Speaker 1: with with Yakuza backing, like this project is like almost 940 00:49:00,360 --> 00:49:03,319 Speaker 1: self financing, like the you know, but by by by 941 00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,840 Speaker 1: by the mid nineteen thirties, like fully twenty percent of 942 00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:10,080 Speaker 1: the Japanese population is addicted to either opium, heroin or 943 00:49:10,120 --> 00:49:12,720 Speaker 1: one of the other drugs that the Yakas aren't running. 944 00:49:12,840 --> 00:49:15,320 Speaker 1: And this means that, you know, when when the Accusa 945 00:49:15,800 --> 00:49:17,880 Speaker 1: really start to formally ally with with the sort of 946 00:49:17,920 --> 00:49:19,480 Speaker 1: state government, and you know, the state government people are 947 00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,759 Speaker 1: also doing drug running, but you know, there's just like 948 00:49:21,840 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: full scale emergence and by that point, fifty of all 949 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,439 Speaker 1: state revenue in manchu Quo is just from the drug trade, 950 00:49:28,719 --> 00:49:30,840 Speaker 1: and you know, like the Quantum Army, like they literally 951 00:49:31,040 --> 00:49:34,280 Speaker 1: like they start they launched invasions of parts of China 952 00:49:34,360 --> 00:49:36,440 Speaker 1: so they could take over opium and heroin factories, and 953 00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,800 Speaker 1: they just they just like start making heroin and opium 954 00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:41,560 Speaker 1: like for the Accusa. Because this whole thing is just 955 00:49:41,719 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 1: a cartel. Yeah, I mean everything is when you get 956 00:49:44,480 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: right down to it. Yeah, in the British are like, 957 00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:51,440 Speaker 1: this is a podcast cartel, and like any other cartels, 958 00:49:51,560 --> 00:49:55,200 Speaker 1: we're actively engaged in battling the Mexican military in the 959 00:49:55,280 --> 00:49:58,440 Speaker 1: foothills of of of northern Mexico. You know. Look, I 960 00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:03,000 Speaker 1: keep like I keep saying, Japan is China's Mexico mm 961 00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:07,200 Speaker 1: and and as a result, we are also fighting the 962 00:50:07,320 --> 00:50:10,600 Speaker 1: Japanese military in order to aid in the spread of 963 00:50:10,680 --> 00:50:14,759 Speaker 1: podcasts across the aisles. Um. They actually have taken no 964 00:50:14,880 --> 00:50:17,640 Speaker 1: efforts to stop us. So it's been very hard to 965 00:50:17,719 --> 00:50:20,000 Speaker 1: start those fights. But we're working on it. We're working 966 00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 1: on it. Look, you can you can always get into 967 00:50:22,239 --> 00:50:24,840 Speaker 1: a gun battle with the facts, if if if you believe, 968 00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:28,319 Speaker 1: if you believe, Sometimes you have to force yourself into 969 00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 1: being an armed cartel. Sometimes the state says what you're 970 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,719 Speaker 1: doing isn't illegal, and there's no need for us to 971 00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:36,680 Speaker 1: have have an armed conflict. But you know, that's what 972 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:41,680 Speaker 1: separates uh, you know, the cartels from the people not 973 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:46,240 Speaker 1: committing organized criminal activity. So the sort of final stage 974 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:50,520 Speaker 1: of this is that so Kishi's successor in has this 975 00:50:50,680 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 1: idea and you know, and you could just like persistently 976 00:50:53,440 --> 00:50:56,120 Speaker 1: has labor shortages, and his plan is, oh, wait, hold on, 977 00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: we can use that. We can use the opium problem 978 00:50:58,680 --> 00:51:01,279 Speaker 1: to solve solve our labor problem. And so they start. 979 00:51:01,400 --> 00:51:03,560 Speaker 1: She sets up this like the series of these uh 980 00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:07,560 Speaker 1: what are supposed to be drug rehabilitation centers, and you know, 981 00:51:07,600 --> 00:51:10,200 Speaker 1: about two million like drug addicts show up to work 982 00:51:10,560 --> 00:51:13,480 Speaker 1: because you know, they show up to drug rebilization centers 983 00:51:13,480 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: because people like don't want to medict it. And what 984 00:51:15,760 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: the centers actually are is you walk into the center 985 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:18,759 Speaker 1: and you walk on the back of the center, and 986 00:51:18,800 --> 00:51:21,640 Speaker 1: then you're into force labor camp. Yeah yeah, they got them, 987 00:51:21,800 --> 00:51:24,640 Speaker 1: they got It's great, it's great. And then and then yeah, 988 00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:26,879 Speaker 1: they tricked them. And then so there's like two hundred 989 00:51:26,920 --> 00:51:28,920 Speaker 1: thousands of people who like are brought by their families 990 00:51:28,960 --> 00:51:30,760 Speaker 1: and like they show up like they they're not physically 991 00:51:30,760 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 1: fit to work, So the Japanese government injects them with 992 00:51:34,760 --> 00:51:38,440 Speaker 1: what they call an opium detox supplement, and the opium 993 00:51:38,440 --> 00:51:45,360 Speaker 1: detox supplement is actually in fetamine. Means it's great and 994 00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,800 Speaker 1: it's funny. We just recorded the episodes that they're running 995 00:51:48,840 --> 00:51:51,719 Speaker 1: the week we we record this about like the Nazis 996 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,719 Speaker 1: and drugs. But yeah, when meth first came out in 997 00:51:54,880 --> 00:51:57,520 Speaker 1: Nazi Germany, was obviously invented in Japan. But when meth 998 00:51:57,600 --> 00:52:01,480 Speaker 1: first got popular in Nazi Germany, it was advertised as 999 00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:05,040 Speaker 1: a treatment for opiate addiction. Um, which I guess, yeah, 1000 00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: if you get horribly addicted to meth, you you you 1001 00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,080 Speaker 1: won't do as much opium. Yeah, well, you know what, 1002 00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:13,080 Speaker 1: what what the Japanese government want out of this is 1003 00:52:13,120 --> 00:52:16,120 Speaker 1: that like, okay, so these people can't physically move, and 1004 00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:17,920 Speaker 1: we need a drug that can allow them to like 1005 00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:22,120 Speaker 1: move so they can be our slaves. And yeah, so 1006 00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:26,239 Speaker 1: that that that's that's a solution to that. And yeah, 1007 00:52:26,400 --> 00:52:28,719 Speaker 1: so you know, not wanting to be outdone in the 1008 00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:31,960 Speaker 1: sort of forced labor department. In August seven, she she 1009 00:52:32,120 --> 00:52:35,799 Speaker 1: signs this bill that lets him just enslaved prisoners of war. 1010 00:52:37,200 --> 00:52:41,000 Speaker 1: So sorry, sorted. It starts with POWs and is expanded, 1011 00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:43,880 Speaker 1: and you know, by the time you get to the expansion, 1012 00:52:44,719 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: it's like anyone doesn't have a job, where like anyone 1013 00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:50,320 Speaker 1: they define as a bandit, which is like a bandit 1014 00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:53,640 Speaker 1: is just anyone who doesn't like the government. And so 1015 00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:57,560 Speaker 1: you know, Butty eight, it's okay, we can enslave just 1016 00:52:57,920 --> 00:53:01,680 Speaker 1: anyone we see on the street, and the people who 1017 00:53:01,760 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: aren't technically enslaved. She pushes this thing that he calls 1018 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:10,080 Speaker 1: unifying wages, which means forcing like everyone in you know, 1019 00:53:10,360 --> 00:53:13,040 Speaker 1: every everyone in Mentriqua, including like just the other random 1020 00:53:13,080 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 1: capitalists are still there to to lower all of their 1021 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,880 Speaker 1: wages down to to to like follow his planning model. 1022 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:21,719 Speaker 1: And when when I say lowering wages, what I mean 1023 00:53:21,880 --> 00:53:25,000 Speaker 1: is that he figured. You know, Kishi's thing is that 1024 00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,520 Speaker 1: he's a beercrat. Right's about efficiencies, on about rationality, And 1025 00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:29,759 Speaker 1: the thing that he's rationally and efficiently decided is that 1026 00:53:30,560 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 1: you should pay Japanese Chinese workers exactly enough they don't starve. 1027 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,560 Speaker 1: I guess it's better than paying them enough so little 1028 00:53:37,640 --> 00:53:41,040 Speaker 1: that they do starve. Well, that that starts to happen too, 1029 00:53:42,080 --> 00:53:46,560 Speaker 1: and then you know, yeah, yeah, and then the wage 1030 00:53:46,640 --> 00:53:48,920 Speaker 1: the wages keep going down because they need to bring 1031 00:53:49,040 --> 00:53:50,560 Speaker 1: labor costs down that you know, because that's the other 1032 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:52,000 Speaker 1: way they're funding all of this is by just not 1033 00:53:52,120 --> 00:53:57,040 Speaker 1: paying people. Now, you know, and labor in Mentriqua had 1034 00:53:57,120 --> 00:54:00,279 Speaker 1: already how already basically been a bunch of the acaste people, 1035 00:54:00,640 --> 00:54:02,840 Speaker 1: like like a bunch of oks of people are in 1036 00:54:02,880 --> 00:54:04,319 Speaker 1: the factory and if you take a step out of line, 1037 00:54:04,360 --> 00:54:07,600 Speaker 1: they beat you. Now she she's like, okay, we're going 1038 00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:11,200 Speaker 1: to rationalize this, and she's rationalization means that you know, 1039 00:54:11,239 --> 00:54:14,400 Speaker 1: instead of it being independently the the aucus of hoting 1040 00:54:14,440 --> 00:54:17,000 Speaker 1: these people to work for like nothing, Uh, he's going 1041 00:54:17,080 --> 00:54:18,600 Speaker 1: to bring you know, he's gonna bring them into the 1042 00:54:18,640 --> 00:54:21,120 Speaker 1: state and so you know, he's gonna replace the paramilitaries 1043 00:54:21,120 --> 00:54:23,200 Speaker 1: with militaries. The accuser and the MP's are going to 1044 00:54:23,239 --> 00:54:26,560 Speaker 1: get replaced with you know, bureacrats, regular police. And the 1045 00:54:26,640 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 1: final thing this means is conscripting or enslaving like Chinese 1046 00:54:30,480 --> 00:54:32,560 Speaker 1: male farm workers to work in work camps and then 1047 00:54:32,880 --> 00:54:35,120 Speaker 1: forcing their families and children to work in the fields 1048 00:54:35,160 --> 00:54:40,080 Speaker 1: in their place. It's yeah, and this this is where 1049 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:45,239 Speaker 1: the race science starts, because you know, Japan, Japan has 1050 00:54:45,320 --> 00:54:49,000 Speaker 1: its own race science that they kind of developed by themselves, 1051 00:54:49,040 --> 00:54:51,840 Speaker 1: and they kind of import from Europe and you know 1052 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,439 Speaker 1: this this is part of their like tailorism, like labor 1053 00:54:54,480 --> 00:54:58,280 Speaker 1: discipline rationalization process is they start doing these quote unquote 1054 00:54:58,320 --> 00:55:02,279 Speaker 1: scientific tests for for body shape, for cranial size, for 1055 00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,880 Speaker 1: nose structure, and they turn these measurements into these like 1056 00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: basically racial baseball cards with like numerically ranked Yeah, yeah, 1057 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,480 Speaker 1: raceball cards. Yeah that they you know, they'll they'll be 1058 00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,160 Speaker 1: like different points for like how much like like what 1059 00:55:16,320 --> 00:55:17,920 Speaker 1: what the shape of your skull is, like how big 1060 00:55:18,000 --> 00:55:20,080 Speaker 1: your noses? And these gives you more or less points, 1061 00:55:20,080 --> 00:55:21,480 Speaker 1: and you like you hold up, you hold up the 1062 00:55:21,560 --> 00:55:24,960 Speaker 1: raceball card, and you know you nextra a migrant worker 1063 00:55:25,000 --> 00:55:28,080 Speaker 1: and you're like, okay, so which how how highly does 1064 00:55:28,120 --> 00:55:31,680 Speaker 1: this person score? And I'm going to read a quote 1065 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,520 Speaker 1: from the book Absolute Erotic, Absolute Grotesque, which is a 1066 00:55:34,719 --> 00:55:38,120 Speaker 1: history of this period of a title. Yeah, it's great, 1067 00:55:38,200 --> 00:55:41,480 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's an incredibly wild book. It's like 1068 00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 1: it's like half about fascism and half about the way 1069 00:55:44,719 --> 00:55:48,040 Speaker 1: that it's sort of the way that it's driven by 1070 00:55:48,600 --> 00:55:52,000 Speaker 1: what what this this like thirties Marxist like Japanese sociologist 1071 00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:54,440 Speaker 1: calls the declining rate of pleasure, which is about how 1072 00:55:54,520 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 1: like and you know, and I think this is this 1073 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:57,840 Speaker 1: is actually fist is what happens in Japanese Empire is 1074 00:55:57,880 --> 00:55:59,879 Speaker 1: that you know, this is already a really violent place, 1075 00:56:00,400 --> 00:56:02,839 Speaker 1: and you know, in order to sort of extract more 1076 00:56:02,920 --> 00:56:05,799 Speaker 1: pleasure out of like sex, right, they start getting they 1077 00:56:05,800 --> 00:56:07,680 Speaker 1: start going to stuff as more and more violence. And 1078 00:56:07,840 --> 00:56:09,920 Speaker 1: this isn't just like a sort of like porn thing 1079 00:56:10,040 --> 00:56:11,800 Speaker 1: or like the points more stream like no, no, like there. 1080 00:56:12,480 --> 00:56:15,480 Speaker 1: They constantly have to seek out like more like increasingly 1081 00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:18,360 Speaker 1: more violent ways of like raping people. And this is like, 1082 00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:19,719 Speaker 1: you know, this is one of the sort of psychoses 1083 00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:22,480 Speaker 1: that like drives this whole, like ex matsion project and 1084 00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:25,560 Speaker 1: the other one, the other psychosis is racism. So yeah, 1085 00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna read this quote. Um. Actually, the 1086 00:56:28,080 --> 00:56:30,880 Speaker 1: the s r M, which is the State Reeler Company 1087 00:56:31,280 --> 00:56:35,600 Speaker 1: Studies classified coolies into three types, the Shandong type, Tohobei type, 1088 00:56:35,640 --> 00:56:39,440 Speaker 1: and the Manchurian type, consistently making up over se of 1089 00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:43,480 Speaker 1: all the North Chinese immigrant immigrant laborers. Shuang Dung coolies 1090 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:46,800 Speaker 1: were profiled as a quote thick gold type representing a 1091 00:56:46,880 --> 00:56:50,000 Speaker 1: low level of culture and capacity quantities confirmed by their 1092 00:56:50,200 --> 00:56:56,120 Speaker 1: strong backs and powerful grip. Their biometrics of large jaw cranials, 1093 00:56:56,120 --> 00:56:59,279 Speaker 1: circumference of fifty five centimeters facial length at one point 1094 00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:02,000 Speaker 1: three five to one point four times the line of 1095 00:57:02,080 --> 00:57:05,840 Speaker 1: the lower jaw, prominent cheekbones, stupidity, big teeth, a bridge 1096 00:57:05,880 --> 00:57:10,200 Speaker 1: of the nose that indicated docility, submissiveness, and barbarity added 1097 00:57:10,280 --> 00:57:13,719 Speaker 1: up to quote a type perfectly suited for physical labor. 1098 00:57:14,480 --> 00:57:16,960 Speaker 1: Who Abe coolies were a little smarter than those from Shendong, 1099 00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:21,360 Speaker 1: Thanks so they're anthropologically superior cranial shape. Owing to this 1100 00:57:21,520 --> 00:57:24,040 Speaker 1: racial profile, who coolies were seen as the best for 1101 00:57:24,120 --> 00:57:29,040 Speaker 1: semi skilled labor of carpentry, plastering, and bricklaying. Wow, I 1102 00:57:29,120 --> 00:57:31,200 Speaker 1: want one of those. I want I want that meme 1103 00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:33,320 Speaker 1: of the two hands meeting in the middle. That's like 1104 00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:38,920 Speaker 1: Western racists Japanese racists and in the middle exactly the 1105 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:45,120 Speaker 1: same ship. Yep, Like it's you know, what if? What if? 1106 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:46,640 Speaker 1: The things that I was realizing, like as I was 1107 00:57:46,680 --> 00:57:48,720 Speaker 1: reading this is the extent to which Japan is basically 1108 00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,840 Speaker 1: just like like Japan is just like like it's like 1109 00:57:51,960 --> 00:57:54,960 Speaker 1: it's it's East Britain. Like they have cousin marrying, they 1110 00:57:55,000 --> 00:57:57,520 Speaker 1: have all this weird pedophile stuff. They have this giant empire, 1111 00:57:57,600 --> 00:57:59,840 Speaker 1: they have like all the skull measurement cranial stuff. They're 1112 00:57:59,840 --> 00:58:02,040 Speaker 1: both from this island. They both have this just like 1113 00:58:02,200 --> 00:58:07,160 Speaker 1: incredibly weird like sort of sort of psychoses embedded in there, 1114 00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:10,800 Speaker 1: in there like like in international culture that like it's 1115 00:58:11,120 --> 00:58:13,480 Speaker 1: it's a bummer that like one of the chunks of 1116 00:58:13,560 --> 00:58:19,560 Speaker 1: Asia that most successfully resisted being colonized and being oppressed 1117 00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:23,720 Speaker 1: by European powers did it that way by basically yeah, 1118 00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:28,560 Speaker 1: by kind of like the British Empire but slightly different. Yeah, 1119 00:58:29,000 --> 00:58:34,960 Speaker 1: and like you can like like I think, yeah, like Ethiopia, 1120 00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:37,520 Speaker 1: which like for a long time sort of like successfully 1121 00:58:38,360 --> 00:58:41,280 Speaker 1: like repelled repelled etons, repelled or colonial forces, and they 1122 00:58:41,360 --> 00:58:44,800 Speaker 1: like don't do this. Yeah, it's a likely way to 1123 00:58:44,880 --> 00:58:47,760 Speaker 1: do things. Yeah, yeah, they're like, you know, there were 1124 00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:52,360 Speaker 1: other ways. It's just the Japanese were like imperialism, what 1125 00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:57,600 Speaker 1: if we did it? And you know, and you know, 1126 00:58:57,880 --> 00:59:00,200 Speaker 1: I think part of this is that like you know, 1127 00:59:00,320 --> 00:59:02,160 Speaker 1: in order to be able to do forced labor, right, 1128 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:05,800 Speaker 1: Like it is actually kind of hard to get human 1129 00:59:05,880 --> 00:59:09,160 Speaker 1: beings to like make other like compel other human beings 1130 00:59:09,240 --> 00:59:11,880 Speaker 1: by forced to do things. And you know, and this 1131 00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,280 Speaker 1: sort of necessitates developing this like this sort of like 1132 00:59:15,440 --> 00:59:17,720 Speaker 1: European style race science or just like keep the forced 1133 00:59:17,760 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: labor system alive. And you know, this is this racism 1134 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,400 Speaker 1: and the mode of race theory. It's not confined to 1135 00:59:25,480 --> 00:59:27,840 Speaker 1: sort of just like lower rank over people like Keishi 1136 00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:32,040 Speaker 1: Keshi is an inveterate racist, Like he goes on everyone 1137 00:59:32,080 --> 00:59:34,200 Speaker 1: who worked around him at the time. We'll talk about 1138 00:59:34,240 --> 00:59:35,880 Speaker 1: he would just like stop in the middle of like 1139 00:59:35,960 --> 00:59:38,000 Speaker 1: I'm beating and go on this rant about how all 1140 00:59:38,120 --> 00:59:40,720 Speaker 1: Chinese people are like lawless bandits and capable of following 1141 00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:45,200 Speaker 1: rules and all of this. Yeah, you know, and you know, 1142 00:59:45,320 --> 00:59:46,800 Speaker 1: and his solution to that is like, well, okay, so 1143 00:59:46,880 --> 00:59:50,360 Speaker 1: Chinese people like inherently can't follow laws because of racial stuff. 1144 00:59:50,360 --> 00:59:51,400 Speaker 1: So the only way you can get them to do 1145 00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:53,760 Speaker 1: things is by like treating them like a dog and 1146 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,680 Speaker 1: just beating them, which is you know, not hire street dogs. 1147 00:59:57,240 --> 01:00:00,560 Speaker 1: But you know, and and this this just like pervasive 1148 01:00:00,680 --> 01:00:02,760 Speaker 1: racism is a big part of how you get everything 1149 01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:06,760 Speaker 1: that happens next. So the Japanese like atrocities and chuqua 1150 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:09,400 Speaker 1: are are so bad that we don't have time to 1151 01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:13,280 Speaker 1: talk about Unite one, which is Japan's like well that's yeah, 1152 01:00:13,800 --> 01:00:16,400 Speaker 1: it's own episode. The whole thing. That's Japan's kind of 1153 01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:21,640 Speaker 1: Doctor Mangela mixed with Auschwitz. Yeah. Yeah, they test you. 1154 01:00:21,680 --> 01:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I mean they do a bunch of likes, but whatever 1155 01:00:23,600 --> 01:00:26,720 Speaker 1: you get. Yeah, yeah, it's like basically they're doing biological 1156 01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,760 Speaker 1: weapons testing on like live Chinese and Russian prisoners, like 1157 01:00:30,040 --> 01:00:35,240 Speaker 1: A grade crimes against humanity and the Scottie Tiff of 1158 01:00:35,360 --> 01:00:39,480 Speaker 1: crimes against humanity. You know, if it's I don't know basketball, 1159 01:00:39,520 --> 01:00:42,440 Speaker 1: I assume he was right, Sophie. He was the best 1160 01:00:42,520 --> 01:00:45,640 Speaker 1: point guard of all of the touchdown footballer. You're doing 1161 01:00:45,760 --> 01:00:56,440 Speaker 1: great birdies serving bicycle. Yeah, absolutely, Okay, it's really got 1162 01:00:57,000 --> 01:01:04,600 Speaker 1: bro parts of that were me joking. Hearts all right, 1163 01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,880 Speaker 1: please Chris continue. So, so Unit seven one is operating 1164 01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 1: under Kichi sturistiction, like you know, it's operating in in 1165 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:15,000 Speaker 1: metrical while he's there under sturisdiction, and we don't have 1166 01:01:15,120 --> 01:01:16,840 Speaker 1: time to talk about that. That needs its own episode. 1167 01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:19,400 Speaker 1: What we are going to talk about next time is 1168 01:01:19,560 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 1: Japan's forced labor system. Oh yeah, now that sounds you 1169 01:01:23,920 --> 01:01:28,680 Speaker 1: mean by forced labor, I assume you mean like Jedi, right, 1170 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:31,400 Speaker 1: Like it's it's we're gonna talk about Star Wars now 1171 01:01:31,440 --> 01:01:34,200 Speaker 1: we're gonna pivot. I mean, I think I think the 1172 01:01:34,360 --> 01:01:36,560 Speaker 1: Japanese would have benefited from just having the ability to 1173 01:01:36,600 --> 01:01:39,640 Speaker 1: mind control people. And you know, I guess like militaries 1174 01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,240 Speaker 1: would have. Yeah, yeah, and you know, I guess the 1175 01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:45,480 Speaker 1: Jedi do like kidnap children and like educate them into 1176 01:01:45,480 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: a religious cult, so you know, and they also they 1177 01:01:48,280 --> 01:01:51,960 Speaker 1: also employed an enormous child slave soldier army. So yeah, 1178 01:01:52,480 --> 01:01:54,640 Speaker 1: it is Star warship because let us know how many 1179 01:01:54,800 --> 01:02:02,920 Speaker 1: Star Wars fans get in your very Yeah. Yeah, well 1180 01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:06,600 Speaker 1: all right then, so we'll be back. We'll be back tomorrow. 1181 01:02:06,920 --> 01:02:10,400 Speaker 1: Because this is a motherfucking three parter, a mother fucking 1182 01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:13,400 Speaker 1: three parter. There's just something. There's just so much ship 1183 01:02:13,560 --> 01:02:15,840 Speaker 1: to say. There's a lot of ship to say about 1184 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:20,880 Speaker 1: piece of ship anyway, anyway, you can find the US, Yeah, 1185 01:02:21,080 --> 01:02:23,480 Speaker 1: you can find us. Look, do it yourself. We're not 1186 01:02:23,520 --> 01:02:26,200 Speaker 1: going to do the work for you. Find it. I mean, 1187 01:02:26,680 --> 01:02:31,040 Speaker 1: track us down in the world, hunt us like animals. 1188 01:02:31,280 --> 01:02:34,000 Speaker 1: You can follow Bathtards at bastards pot on Instagram and Twitter, 1189 01:02:34,040 --> 01:02:36,200 Speaker 1: and not Cool Zone Media on Instagram and Twitter if 1190 01:02:36,200 --> 01:02:39,000 Speaker 1: you guys want to right, well, yeah, I'm not going 1191 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:42,120 Speaker 1: to do personal handles. You can find us, yeah, hunt 1192 01:02:42,200 --> 01:02:44,760 Speaker 1: us down like animals. Hunt. That's the episode.