1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:11,559 Speaker 1: This is Straight Fire with Jason McIntyre. What is up 2 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:16,480 Speaker 1: straight Fire, Fam, It's me Jason McIntyre. Straight Fire for Friday, 3 00:00:16,840 --> 00:00:20,000 Speaker 1: July twenty two. The month of July just flying by. 4 00:00:20,079 --> 00:00:24,599 Speaker 1: We had big, big, big, huge NFL news on Thursday. 5 00:00:24,920 --> 00:00:26,640 Speaker 1: It happened a break while I was on the Herd 6 00:00:26,640 --> 00:00:29,000 Speaker 1: with cow Herd, so that's always a plus. We'll get 7 00:00:29,000 --> 00:00:32,200 Speaker 1: to Kyler Murray shortly. Our guest today is off the Hook. 8 00:00:32,360 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 1: If you like gambling, if you like fantasy, if you 9 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,840 Speaker 1: like football, which is everybody who listens to this podcast. 10 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:39,840 Speaker 1: Aaron Shots is the guy for you, the football outsiders. 11 00:00:40,080 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: He comes on. We gloss over some of the teams, 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:45,680 Speaker 1: the big picture issues. It's lovely. You are gonna love it. 13 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 1: Before that, a couple of quick notes. This is what 14 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:51,479 Speaker 1: I called nerdy. I told I met a couple of 15 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: dads for a quick drink on Thursday night. Um, and 16 00:00:56,520 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: I said, guys, I'm sorry, I'm a little late. I 17 00:00:58,680 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: had to go and gout my opponent for today's tennis match. 18 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:08,160 Speaker 1: In this tennis tournamentument again, twenty nine dudes in my 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:11,040 Speaker 1: three point five is the level of you know tennis, 20 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: and three of them got buys the defending champ me 21 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,319 Speaker 1: I made the semifinals last year twice actually, and some 22 00:01:17,400 --> 00:01:19,399 Speaker 1: other guy who I don't know. So I went to 23 00:01:19,440 --> 00:01:21,480 Speaker 1: scout who I would be playing. So, you know, I 24 00:01:21,600 --> 00:01:25,200 Speaker 1: roll up shades glasses and I'm looking at some of 25 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:26,760 Speaker 1: the matches. I'm all right, where's this court, you know, 26 00:01:26,800 --> 00:01:29,120 Speaker 1: I go see the guys. I'm like, let's camp be 27 00:01:29,480 --> 00:01:34,399 Speaker 1: come on. I mean, it is granny tennis from you know. 28 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:36,840 Speaker 1: Two guys were probably like thirty thirty five years old, 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:39,760 Speaker 1: and I was like, there was some like girl watching. 30 00:01:39,800 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 1: I thought it was like one of the girlfriends or 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 1: moms or whatever or other not girlfriends or wife. And 32 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: I was like, so, do you know which guy's which? 33 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:49,120 Speaker 1: And she was like, no, I have no idea. I'm 34 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,840 Speaker 1: here for that other match. And I was like, okay, 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,920 Speaker 1: so I'm watching, and you know, one guy's crushed the 36 00:01:54,960 --> 00:01:57,040 Speaker 1: other neither has a good serve. The guy who's winning 37 00:01:57,240 --> 00:02:00,160 Speaker 1: did not hit one backhand in all the points I saw, 38 00:02:00,160 --> 00:02:02,760 Speaker 1: because he was running around his backhand, and I'm like, 39 00:02:02,800 --> 00:02:05,440 Speaker 1: oh my gosh. I mean it was just like stand 40 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: in the middle and hit the ball to each other 41 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:08,720 Speaker 1: and who made a mistake first. I was like, oh 42 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:13,119 Speaker 1: my goodness, and I text my daughter, Hey, brit if 43 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: I lose to either of these guys, I might have 44 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:18,239 Speaker 1: to retire from tennis. Now. Listen. I regret sending that, 45 00:02:18,280 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 1: because you know that's the kiss of death, thinking you're 46 00:02:20,360 --> 00:02:21,960 Speaker 1: the man. So I go tell my buddies this. They 47 00:02:22,000 --> 00:02:26,520 Speaker 1: start laughing and, um, listen, I'm competitive. I thought it 48 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,400 Speaker 1: was losory and nerdy. They were like, you're competitive, you 49 00:02:28,400 --> 00:02:30,399 Speaker 1: want to win. I was like, it's a good point. 50 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: You just made a very valid point, Thank you very much. Uh. 51 00:02:33,080 --> 00:02:35,160 Speaker 1: And it's funny because it's not just for me. It's 52 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 1: for like my my kids as well. My daughter and 53 00:02:37,880 --> 00:02:41,120 Speaker 1: son playing this summer basketball league. It's mostly for fun locally, 54 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:43,919 Speaker 1: and my daughter, for the second year in a row, 55 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 1: is on a team with some of her buddies, um 56 00:02:46,960 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: from her grade. And of course the dad's I'm friendly 57 00:02:49,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 1: with the coaches, you know. And they listened to the podcast. 58 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:56,840 Speaker 1: Their kids, well, one of them, big big Bay area fan. 59 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 1: He goes to like Warriors games. He went to the 60 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. His name is I'll he. After the game, 61 00:03:01,560 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 1: I was like, Kyle Man, you played great. You're you're 62 00:03:03,280 --> 00:03:06,600 Speaker 1: leading the league in deflections and floor burns and he's like, 63 00:03:06,760 --> 00:03:08,680 Speaker 1: you gotta mention me on straight fire, and I was 64 00:03:08,720 --> 00:03:12,239 Speaker 1: just like, this is awesome, you know, And I'm scouting, 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: not not full on scouting, but I'm looking at the 66 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:16,800 Speaker 1: opponents are playing just like the other dads and saying 67 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: for my son. You know, there was a couple of 68 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: big game Thursday, my son out to buy and I 69 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,440 Speaker 1: was like, should we stick around and check out that 70 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 1: our opponent on Sunday? Who with my son knows well 71 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,240 Speaker 1: and it's gonna be a great game. But um, like 72 00:03:28,280 --> 00:03:30,440 Speaker 1: I just I guess I'm just competitive like that. I 73 00:03:30,440 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: don't know, it's something that's wired in me, whether it's 74 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:41,360 Speaker 1: sports debates, chess, tennis, honestly, FIFA, whatever game you want 75 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,360 Speaker 1: to play, Like, I just I'm kind of competitive at it. 76 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 1: Not like off putting lee competitive, but just like I 77 00:03:46,440 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 1: want to win. And you know this dad basketball league 78 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 1: were in obviously we're now the uh number one in 79 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:53,520 Speaker 1: the league, and you know, all the guys are kind 80 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:55,800 Speaker 1: of excited. And I have this really nerdy idea. I'm 81 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,680 Speaker 1: not going to reveal it on this pod, um, but 82 00:03:58,880 --> 00:04:00,440 Speaker 1: I have this idea of to do for the team 83 00:04:00,440 --> 00:04:02,280 Speaker 1: that I think would be cool it's extremely nerdied. You 84 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 1: guys will mock me when you see it on my 85 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Instagram if we if we end up doing it, Um, 86 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,320 Speaker 1: I think I think it's gonna be awesome. And and 87 00:04:08,640 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: I listen, I've said it a lot. You get one life, guys. 88 00:04:12,040 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 1: You gotta enjoy, you gotta live it up. You gotta 89 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: have the most fun you can. And UM, I'm just 90 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:17,960 Speaker 1: trying to do that. You know That's what I'm trying 91 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 1: to do. And let's without further ado, let me remind 92 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:23,320 Speaker 1: you guys that will be on the Herd again today 93 00:04:23,360 --> 00:04:26,799 Speaker 1: with Calherd chopping it up. Should be fun. Maybe NBA 94 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 1: news will break, who knows, Donovan Mitchell, we'll see. Um. 95 00:04:30,600 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 1: As for Kyler Murray, I'll be brief because you guys 96 00:04:33,680 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 1: know I've been pro Kyler Murray throughout. I love the signing. 97 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:40,680 Speaker 1: I personally think he got more money than I thought 98 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: he would. I'm frankly, I'm a little stunned that he's 99 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 1: going to be averaging forty one mill per This is 100 00:04:47,000 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: like such a massive, colossal win for Kyler Murray. I 101 00:04:51,080 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 1: don't think people totally get Deshaun Watson, who's accomplished poin 102 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,200 Speaker 1: than Kyler five years, two hundred and thirty forty six 103 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: million dollars per year. So what did Kyla Maurie get 104 00:05:01,440 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: five years, two d and thirty point five mill forty 105 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:09,680 Speaker 1: six one million per year? His agent fought for it 106 00:05:09,760 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 1: and got it. I want what Deshaun Watson got. Now, 107 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,200 Speaker 1: he did not get the fully guaranteed Obviously that's non negotiable, 108 00:05:15,200 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 1: and it sounds like Watson will be the outlier in 109 00:05:17,000 --> 00:05:21,800 Speaker 1: that case. But Kyler Maurie got forty six making forty 110 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 1: six million dollars. He has zero playoff wins. I know 111 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,159 Speaker 1: that the contracts are forward looking, and I saw a 112 00:05:27,240 --> 00:05:30,240 Speaker 1: really funny stat that the Oakland Athletics payroll is like 113 00:05:30,279 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 1: forty two mill and Kyla muri is gonna be making 114 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:36,520 Speaker 1: forty six mill himself next year. Um, but it leads 115 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: to the question like what should Lamar Jackson get? And undeniably, 116 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:43,720 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson has accomplished more than Kyler Murray. He has 117 00:05:43,760 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: an m v P, he has more playoff wins. I 118 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,640 Speaker 1: think he's an overall better quarterback than Kyla Maurie. I 119 00:05:49,680 --> 00:05:52,559 Speaker 1: don't think that's some incendiary take. I just think Lamar 120 00:05:52,600 --> 00:05:55,160 Speaker 1: Jackson's overall better quarterback. And I like Kyler Murie a lot, 121 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,000 Speaker 1: But I think the question becomes like, does that mean 122 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: Lamar gets forty six point two bill or does he 123 00:06:00,839 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: angle more for the fully guaranteed given he's a running 124 00:06:03,760 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: quarterback potentially injury prone. To all these people out there 125 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 1: who are like, that's crazy, buddy, guys, Bradley Beale is 126 00:06:13,120 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: going to be making fifty million dollars in his contract 127 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:21,120 Speaker 1: in a few years, guaranteed. Fifty mil. Bradley Beale, who's 128 00:06:21,120 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 1: accomplished less then Kyler Murray and Lamar Jackson, and he 129 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: plays on a franchise that's going nowhere, they have no 130 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 1: hope to win anything, and he's still making fifty mil. 131 00:06:30,640 --> 00:06:34,680 Speaker 1: Sports contracts are crazy. Why Because people love sports, People 132 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:38,720 Speaker 1: love watching sports, people love talking about sports. Podcasts. Uh. 133 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:42,359 Speaker 1: Digital sports are massive business. The TV rights are huge. 134 00:06:42,440 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 1: They're not going any They're not going down anytime soon. 135 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,360 Speaker 1: Look at the social media feeds. I always joke to 136 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,800 Speaker 1: guys about this, like, yeah, yeah, I know, I know 137 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:53,000 Speaker 1: his quarterbacks are huge, but um, you know, like twenty 138 00:06:53,040 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: guys in the NBA have larger Instagram followings than Aaron 139 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: Rodgers or whoever. And maybe it's more than twenty for 140 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:05,000 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers. But it's it's insane how popular these athletes 141 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: are in the NBA and NFL. It's really ridiculous. Now again, 142 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,160 Speaker 1: baseball is another story you go look at, and again 143 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,560 Speaker 1: that's social media is just one metric and it doesn't 144 00:07:13,640 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 1: mean a whole hell of a lot, but it can 145 00:07:15,280 --> 00:07:18,559 Speaker 1: translate to jersey sales, all star appearances and so forth. 146 00:07:19,120 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 1: But the popularity of these athletes and the contracts are 147 00:07:22,200 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 1: only going up. So this idea that lamar, oh, he's 148 00:07:25,560 --> 00:07:30,760 Speaker 1: not worth is anybody really, I mean seriously, Like you 149 00:07:30,760 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: could say, Okay, Tom Brady is worth it, he's done 150 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,240 Speaker 1: a lot. Well, is he going to do a lot 151 00:07:34,280 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: in the next three years? Is Aaron Rodgers going to 152 00:07:36,560 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 1: do a lot in the next three years? Was Kirk 153 00:07:38,680 --> 00:07:40,680 Speaker 1: Cousins when he was the highest paid quarterback in the league? 154 00:07:41,160 --> 00:07:44,240 Speaker 1: Was he worth it? No, you're betting on these guys 155 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 1: and to keep them away from other teams and to 156 00:07:46,640 --> 00:07:49,640 Speaker 1: make them happy and to show your franchise and fan 157 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:52,280 Speaker 1: base that we are committed to trying our best to win, 158 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: you gotta pay these guys. So I got no problem 159 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,720 Speaker 1: with any of these guys making big, big bank none 160 00:07:59,480 --> 00:08:01,200 Speaker 1: and oh, by the way, the year before Kyler Murie 161 00:08:01,240 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: got there, did Josh Rosen her three and thirteen with 162 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 1: Steve Wilkes. He was one and done before that, Bruce Arians, 163 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,600 Speaker 1: they were seven eight and one. They did lose in 164 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 1: the NFC Championship. They got obliterated by Cam Newton the 165 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 1: year before that. But again, when you don't have a quarterback, 166 00:08:18,360 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 1: you have no chance. And trust me, as a fan 167 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 1: of the New York Jets, I am well aware of 168 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 1: that fact. All right, without further ado, let's get to 169 00:08:25,760 --> 00:08:33,240 Speaker 1: our guest, Aaron Shots of the Football Outsiders. Jason likes 170 00:08:33,280 --> 00:08:36,080 Speaker 1: to think he knows everything when it comes to sports. 171 00:08:36,400 --> 00:08:39,640 Speaker 1: I know what sports fans want, But for everything he doesn't. 172 00:08:39,880 --> 00:08:42,920 Speaker 1: He knows a guy who does. Let's just say I 173 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: know a guy who knows a guy who knows another guy. 174 00:08:46,800 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: All right, let's welcome into straight fire. A guy. You know. 175 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 1: There's a few guys better than him at producing information, 176 00:08:53,760 --> 00:08:59,520 Speaker 1: gambling nuggets, fantasy nuggets. Aaron Shots, Football Outsiders, how are you, man? 177 00:09:00,000 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: I'm good. I've been working, working, working, and now I'm 178 00:09:03,760 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: ready for actual football. I'm ready for training camps. I'm 179 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:10,000 Speaker 1: ready for rumors to stop and actual play to begin. Okay, 180 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:13,040 Speaker 1: so we're recording this right after the Kyler Murray news. Uh, Aaron, 181 00:09:13,360 --> 00:09:14,800 Speaker 1: do you have a Do you have a strong take 182 00:09:14,880 --> 00:09:18,560 Speaker 1: either way on Kyler Murray signing a massive deal with 183 00:09:18,559 --> 00:09:21,160 Speaker 1: the Cardinals. Um, you know, they really didn't have many 184 00:09:21,160 --> 00:09:24,679 Speaker 1: other options. He's getting about the same per year as 185 00:09:24,720 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson, but he didn't get it all guaranteed. We'll 186 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: get that out of the way first anything. Yeah, you know, 187 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 1: they talk about sort of there's three different kind of quarterbacks. 188 00:09:32,960 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: Quarterbacks you win because of, quarterbacks you win with, and 189 00:09:37,880 --> 00:09:42,360 Speaker 1: quarterbacks that you win despite. And I think Kyler Murray 190 00:09:42,480 --> 00:09:47,000 Speaker 1: is definitely in the quarterbacks you win because of tier. Now, 191 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,120 Speaker 1: he may be the lowest guy in that tier, but 192 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: he's in that tier. And when a guy comes up 193 00:09:52,679 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: for contract in that tier, you pay him because he 194 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 1: can win you games on his own. Okay, I would 195 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:02,839 Speaker 1: harde to agree with that. Uh. The Internet Twitter, h 196 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: what is it? NFL Twitter if that's a thing, really 197 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:08,600 Speaker 1: does not seem to like Kyler Murray. I saw Greg 198 00:10:08,679 --> 00:10:11,920 Speaker 1: Rosenthal taking a shot Kevin Clark. I'm surprised the media 199 00:10:11,960 --> 00:10:14,720 Speaker 1: doesn't like Murray, but I'm with you, Aaron. I I 200 00:10:14,760 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 1: think you had to pay him the money. I do 201 00:10:16,600 --> 00:10:19,000 Speaker 1: want to point out at the jump, Aaron said he 202 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:22,760 Speaker 1: was working, working, working. I think that's an underplay. I mean, 203 00:10:23,040 --> 00:10:25,520 Speaker 1: I just got the Football Outsiders Almanac, which is mandatory 204 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:27,959 Speaker 1: reading ahead of the NFL season. It's five and thirty 205 00:10:28,040 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: nine pages five and thirty nine. It is so dense 206 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:33,800 Speaker 1: eron I. I didn't want to start with my Jets 207 00:10:33,840 --> 00:10:35,439 Speaker 1: because I know people kind of fast forward through the 208 00:10:35,520 --> 00:10:37,240 Speaker 1: Jets because they hate him. I want to start with 209 00:10:37,280 --> 00:10:39,760 Speaker 1: the Patriots. But I have to give people. This is 210 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 1: the kind of nugget that Aaron produces. The Jets had 211 00:10:43,280 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: the lowest safety to cornerback cover ratio in the NFL 212 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,960 Speaker 1: last season, meaning the coverage was always almost always placed 213 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:54,839 Speaker 1: in the hands of the jets extremely young quarterback group. Now, 214 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: Aaron first question off that is where do you get 215 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: that lowest safety to cornerback cover a ratio? And can 216 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:03,600 Speaker 1: the regular Joe who's listening to this and knows that 217 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,440 Speaker 1: there's actionable gambling items, can they just find that on 218 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: the internet or do they have to just go to 219 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: you guys for it. Well, we get data from our 220 00:11:10,679 --> 00:11:13,840 Speaker 1: partners at Sports Info Solutions. They do all of the 221 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: charting data for us, and so one of the things 222 00:11:16,600 --> 00:11:18,439 Speaker 1: I get at the end of the season is who 223 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 1: was in coverage, the main coverage guy on every play. 224 00:11:21,760 --> 00:11:24,199 Speaker 1: So once I have that data, I add up all 225 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,720 Speaker 1: the coverage plays that were cornerbacks and all the coverage 226 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,520 Speaker 1: plays that were safeties. So you can get this data, 227 00:11:29,600 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: for example, by going to the Sports Info Solutions data Hub, 228 00:11:33,360 --> 00:11:36,479 Speaker 1: which I believe is s I S data hub dot com. 229 00:11:36,480 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: But you would have to add up every individual cornerback 230 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: and safety like individually and then compare them by team 231 00:11:43,120 --> 00:11:45,400 Speaker 1: and all that. So I have a bunch of you know, 232 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:48,000 Speaker 1: stuff that just does it for me automatically. Yes, yes, 233 00:11:48,040 --> 00:11:50,120 Speaker 1: that that That's a great nugget because then the Jets 234 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,600 Speaker 1: go out in the off season and we know they 235 00:11:52,679 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: drafted a superstar at cornerback, Sauce Gardener, but they also 236 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,840 Speaker 1: picked up the kid from Seattle to be their number 237 00:11:58,840 --> 00:12:01,280 Speaker 1: two corner And you know, if you think back to 238 00:12:01,440 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: Sala in San fran his defenses, he loved Richard Sherman 239 00:12:05,440 --> 00:12:08,160 Speaker 1: um the press coverage and you let everybody else kind 240 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:10,840 Speaker 1: of go crazy. I mean again, I didn't want to 241 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 1: start with the Jets and being excited. But Aaron, I'm sorry, 242 00:12:14,000 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: I'm a little excited, just a little bit. Here's the 243 00:12:16,920 --> 00:12:20,920 Speaker 1: thing about the Jets, um you can tell the story 244 00:12:21,160 --> 00:12:23,640 Speaker 1: of how the Jets take a big leap forward in 245 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:28,440 Speaker 1: two it's it's we don't project that that's going to happen. 246 00:12:28,840 --> 00:12:30,959 Speaker 1: We still project them as one of the worst teams 247 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:34,199 Speaker 1: in the league. But you can tell the story because 248 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: of the added talent all over the roster, plus people 249 00:12:37,440 --> 00:12:40,200 Speaker 1: coming back from injury. You talked about cornerbacks. Don't forget 250 00:12:40,240 --> 00:12:43,000 Speaker 1: there's also two new safeties. There's white Head from Tampa 251 00:12:43,040 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 1: Bay and LaMarcus Joyner who missed all last year with injury. So, uh, 252 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:51,599 Speaker 1: there's lots of good There's good wide receivers, they have 253 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:55,000 Speaker 1: a reasonable offensive line. Bruce Hall is our favorite running 254 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: back prospect. Like, there's lots of good stuff happening with 255 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: the Jets. It's really hard to tell the story, worry 256 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:03,400 Speaker 1: of how the Atlanta Falcons surprise and make the playoffs, 257 00:13:04,200 --> 00:13:06,199 Speaker 1: but it's not hard to tell the story of how 258 00:13:06,200 --> 00:13:08,480 Speaker 1: it happens for the Jets. The problem for the Jets 259 00:13:08,960 --> 00:13:12,400 Speaker 1: is that the biggest variable is the quarterback, and he 260 00:13:12,480 --> 00:13:16,400 Speaker 1: was terrible last year he was. Now Josh Allen came 261 00:13:16,400 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: out and was I thought pretty terrible as a rookie 262 00:13:19,040 --> 00:13:22,240 Speaker 1: and Buffalo fifties percent completions and then he made a leap, 263 00:13:22,320 --> 00:13:24,360 Speaker 1: and then he made a quantum leap in year three. 264 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:26,880 Speaker 1: I'm not saying Zach Wilson is going to do that. 265 00:13:26,960 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: He does not have Brian Dable working with him. That 266 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,120 Speaker 1: being said, you know, if you're looking at a year 267 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 1: to jump, Aaron, I would be willing to wager a 268 00:13:35,600 --> 00:13:38,560 Speaker 1: state dinner bet with you that Zach Wilson has a 269 00:13:38,600 --> 00:13:42,840 Speaker 1: better year than your guy Mac Jones in New England, 270 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:46,679 Speaker 1: who will be without Josh McDaniels. And I think the Jets, 271 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:50,200 Speaker 1: given their upgrades, how now have a better wide receiver 272 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 1: room than your Patriots. Yeah, that's an interesting beat. I 273 00:13:54,120 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: think I'll take it. Although, um, I'm also if he 274 00:13:58,200 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 1: on the Patriots offensive coordinate eater situation big time. But 275 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:04,400 Speaker 1: I am I'm a Mac Jones believer. Not that he 276 00:14:04,440 --> 00:14:06,960 Speaker 1: can be one of the top five quarterbacks in the NFL, 277 00:14:07,000 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: because he can't be. But he came in with a 278 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:13,079 Speaker 1: high floor and he performed even you know, better than 279 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:16,960 Speaker 1: anyone expected. And you're right about Wilson an improvement, Like, 280 00:14:17,040 --> 00:14:20,480 Speaker 1: you don't write off quarterbacks after one year. The history 281 00:14:20,600 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: is filled with quarterbacks who were awful as rookies and 282 00:14:23,920 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: were reasonable as sophomores, and by the time they got 283 00:14:26,680 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: to the third and fourth year they were stars. Now 284 00:14:28,960 --> 00:14:31,040 Speaker 1: you know, that doesn't mean they're going to turn things 285 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: around to quite the extent that Josh Allen did, because 286 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: Josh Allen is really a black swan because he was 287 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: such a bad prospect coming into the league. But I mean, 288 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,800 Speaker 1: it's certainly possible that Wilson takes a big jump, And 289 00:14:43,840 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 1: that's one of the reasons why I say the story 290 00:14:46,560 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: of how the Jets turn it around and make the 291 00:14:48,440 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 1: playoffs isn't much easier story to tell, Like Zack Wilson 292 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:55,800 Speaker 1: takes a big jump after one year is away more 293 00:14:55,920 --> 00:14:59,600 Speaker 1: likely story than Daniel Jones takes a big jump after 294 00:14:59,720 --> 00:15:03,000 Speaker 1: three years. Yeah, yeah, Now do Daniel Jones does have 295 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,080 Speaker 1: dable at his services? Do you expect him to be 296 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: a little bit better? And I will give defend Daniel 297 00:15:08,880 --> 00:15:11,560 Speaker 1: Jones a little bit. All of his weapons were injured 298 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,520 Speaker 1: last year. I mean, see Kwan is gonna be healthy. Golladay, Um, 299 00:15:14,760 --> 00:15:18,400 Speaker 1: we'll see how long that yes healthy, I will the 300 00:15:18,400 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 1: Giants are worst projected team in the league or the 301 00:15:21,960 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 1: NFC in the league. What we like their head coach, 302 00:15:26,280 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 1: we like their front office, we like what they're doing 303 00:15:28,600 --> 00:15:31,480 Speaker 1: for the future. We don't like that roster for this year. 304 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: Oh geez, um that that's not good to know. I 305 00:15:34,600 --> 00:15:37,000 Speaker 1: think I bet the Giants to win the NFC East. 306 00:15:37,040 --> 00:15:41,240 Speaker 1: Small potatoes, But um, let's start with the NFC East. Um, 307 00:15:41,280 --> 00:15:43,520 Speaker 1: A lot of people like Philly. They added a J. Brown, 308 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,880 Speaker 1: I think Cowboys regression. All the numbers kind of point 309 00:15:46,880 --> 00:15:48,880 Speaker 1: to that. And then there's Carson Wentz. I don't it 310 00:15:48,920 --> 00:15:50,920 Speaker 1: feels like a division that's kind of up for grabs. 311 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: We know Dallas has struggled to go back to back 312 00:15:53,000 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: years of quality. They don't do well when the pressure 313 00:15:55,760 --> 00:15:58,280 Speaker 1: is on, uh losing Amari Cooper. Your thoughts on who 314 00:15:58,280 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 1: who's the class of the NFC East. We love Philly, 315 00:16:01,480 --> 00:16:03,240 Speaker 1: Oh my god, I loved it at the beginning of 316 00:16:03,280 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: the off season when the Philly number was like eight 317 00:16:05,440 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: and a half. Now the Philly number is nine and 318 00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:11,520 Speaker 1: a half, and uh, you know that's a little harder 319 00:16:11,520 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: to bet, But um, we are numbers really like Philly. 320 00:16:14,880 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, look there's still questions about Shalen Hurts, 321 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:20,880 Speaker 1: but this is a team that was good last year 322 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 1: and then added a lot of stuff. Hassan Reddick, Brandon 323 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:29,120 Speaker 1: Graham coming back from injury. Uh, James Bradberry obviously a J. 324 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,280 Speaker 1: Brown is a huge addition. Like, we really think that 325 00:16:32,320 --> 00:16:34,440 Speaker 1: they could do good things in Philadelphia. That is our 326 00:16:34,480 --> 00:16:38,080 Speaker 1: division favorite. We like the Cowboys too. I mean, I 327 00:16:38,080 --> 00:16:40,040 Speaker 1: see what you're saying about how the Cowboys seemed to 328 00:16:40,080 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: wilt under pressure, and I mean they were our number 329 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:44,320 Speaker 1: one team last year and then they went into the 330 00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:49,320 Speaker 1: playoffs and it was terrible. Uh. That being said, I 331 00:16:49,320 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: mean there's still a lot of talent there, and there's 332 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:53,640 Speaker 1: still plenty of talent on that defense, which took the 333 00:16:53,680 --> 00:16:55,880 Speaker 1: big leap forward last year. And I think Dallas is 334 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:59,720 Speaker 1: going to be a playoff team again. Uh. What Washington 335 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: weren't out is high on and like I said, we 336 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: don't like the giant. Fox Sports Radio has the best 337 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 1: sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our 338 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:11,080 Speaker 1: shows at Fox sports Radio dot com and within the 339 00:17:11,119 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio app search f s R to listen live. 340 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:17,639 Speaker 1: I wrote a piece for Fox Sports where you know, 341 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:21,200 Speaker 1: betting Super Bowl futures. I thought the Green Bay Packers 342 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,399 Speaker 1: in the Minnesota Vikings were two of the best bets 343 00:17:23,400 --> 00:17:26,360 Speaker 1: in the league. Twofold. Number one is because they're both 344 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 1: in the NFC, which I think has an easier path 345 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:30,480 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl than the a f C. And 346 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 1: number two, you know, maybe I'm going with the recency 347 00:17:33,800 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 1: bias of Zach Taylor succeeding in Cincinnati. Anybody who had 348 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: a cup of coffee with McVeigh turned into an awesome coach, 349 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:45,240 Speaker 1: and O'Connell now has Kirk Cousins, justin Jefferson, Thilynn Dalvin Cook. 350 00:17:45,320 --> 00:17:49,280 Speaker 1: Like that offense could really really play well and they 351 00:17:49,359 --> 00:17:52,119 Speaker 1: might have a Bengals type year. I know the Bengals 352 00:17:52,160 --> 00:17:54,760 Speaker 1: got a little lucky, but any thoughts on Vikings and 353 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:58,439 Speaker 1: Packers who lost a numbers weirdly love the Vikings. They 354 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:03,240 Speaker 1: love rebound from last year's decline. Um, they like the 355 00:18:03,320 --> 00:18:06,080 Speaker 1: talent at it. Maybe we're giving them too much credit 356 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,600 Speaker 1: for Zadarius Smith since he's coming off an injury. I 357 00:18:08,640 --> 00:18:11,359 Speaker 1: don't know, but you know he's very good player before 358 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:16,439 Speaker 1: last year, and Cousins is consistently good. Like Cousins is 359 00:18:16,480 --> 00:18:19,560 Speaker 1: so Cousins is so frustrating. I think he's the player 360 00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,920 Speaker 1: in the NFL with the biggest gap between what scouting 361 00:18:22,920 --> 00:18:25,240 Speaker 1: people think of him and what the stats think of him. 362 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,920 Speaker 1: But the stats constantly say Cousins like the eighth best 363 00:18:28,960 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. Like even the Pro Football Focus grades, 364 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 1: which are more scouting than they are analytics, they like Cousins. 365 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: Like everything says Cousins like, I know, he doesn't get 366 00:18:40,520 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: anyone excited, and he's no one's idea of the best 367 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:46,199 Speaker 1: quarterback in the league. But he's consistently good. So if 368 00:18:46,240 --> 00:18:48,520 Speaker 1: that defense can turn things around and you've got a 369 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: quarterback who's consistently good, and I think they've got an 370 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:57,280 Speaker 1: easy schedule based on our numbers, that's a dangerous, weirdly 371 00:18:57,400 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: dangerous team. Why do you think there's a to gap 372 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,359 Speaker 1: with Cousins? Is it the funky throwing motion? Is it 373 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: that he was like a mid round pick who wallowed 374 00:19:06,359 --> 00:19:08,679 Speaker 1: in Washington and then you know they tagged him twice, 375 00:19:09,080 --> 00:19:11,520 Speaker 1: Like what is it about Kirk Cousins? He I mean, 376 00:19:11,600 --> 00:19:16,240 Speaker 1: he doesn't wow you with like plays out of structure. Um, 377 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:19,359 Speaker 1: he doesn't have the greatest arm in the league. You know, 378 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,800 Speaker 1: a lot of it he's doing because he's in good 379 00:19:21,840 --> 00:19:24,480 Speaker 1: systems and and and I'm sure he'll be in a 380 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,000 Speaker 1: good system. Now it's gonna be a different system, but 381 00:19:27,040 --> 00:19:30,960 Speaker 1: a good system with O'Connell and the scouting people just 382 00:19:31,000 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 1: feel like the talent is not there. He's Remember I 383 00:19:33,720 --> 00:19:37,199 Speaker 1: talked about win because of versus win with like he 384 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:41,600 Speaker 1: might be the top of the win with guys, but 385 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 1: no one sees him as a win because of guy. 386 00:19:43,880 --> 00:19:46,360 Speaker 1: But the fact is every year he goes out there 387 00:19:46,400 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 1: and it's like the eighth or ninth best quarterback. I 388 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: also wonder if Zimmer kind of kind of held them back. 389 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:54,640 Speaker 1: He's a he's a let's run the football kind of guy. 390 00:19:54,920 --> 00:19:57,600 Speaker 1: Let's win with defense, and their defense is terribleized fantasy wise, 391 00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: we're expecting Cousins and Jefferson to be even better this 392 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:02,680 Speaker 1: year because they're gonna throw the ball more in Minnesota. 393 00:20:02,800 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: Oh my, uh, Chicago Bears our worst team in the 394 00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,640 Speaker 1: n f C. We have that offensive line lightly better 395 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:13,200 Speaker 1: than conventional wisdom because we see their defense rebounding a bit. 396 00:20:13,359 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: But I mean, the chapter goes into, you know, the 397 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:20,200 Speaker 1: sort of discrepancy between what we think of the roster 398 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: and what the numbers say about their defense, possibly rebounding. 399 00:20:23,720 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: It's certainly they're a team that I'm like, we might 400 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: have them a little bit too high when we have 401 00:20:28,600 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 1: them as like the best team in the league instead 402 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: of like the best team. Uh, the Detroit Lions. And 403 00:20:34,400 --> 00:20:36,000 Speaker 1: we're not gonna do every single team, but the Detroit 404 00:20:36,040 --> 00:20:38,639 Speaker 1: Lions go three thirteen and one. They did, I believe 405 00:20:38,720 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 1: lose according to your right up three games at the horn. 406 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:43,680 Speaker 1: You know, let's say that it's those are coin flip games. 407 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 1: Let's say they win two of those. Now they're a 408 00:20:45,480 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: five win team. Uh. They get a lot of guys 409 00:20:47,920 --> 00:20:50,840 Speaker 1: back on defense, I believe from injury. Some of their 410 00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:53,640 Speaker 1: skill position players came along. You know Dan Campbell for 411 00:20:53,680 --> 00:20:56,800 Speaker 1: all his warts and the jokey stuff about him. You know, 412 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: couldn't they sniff five hundred this year? Yeah, nignly reasonable. 413 00:21:01,400 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: And if things break their way and they get lucky 414 00:21:04,280 --> 00:21:07,359 Speaker 1: in close games and with fumble recoveries and stuff and injuries, 415 00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:11,480 Speaker 1: they absolutely could be a wild card team. Sure, absolutely, Aaron, 416 00:21:11,560 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: come on, good, could be like, you know, they're gonna 417 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: be in the hunt in week twelve thirteen. They're still 418 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:20,600 Speaker 1: gonna be in the hunt. We'll see what happens, but 419 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:22,679 Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonna go three and thirteen and 420 00:21:22,720 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: one again. So you touched on it close games, So 421 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: you know, five years ago, not a lot of people 422 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 1: knew we're looking at pythag and close games flipping year 423 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:33,280 Speaker 1: to year and all that stuff that seems to be 424 00:21:33,440 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: very out there in the mainstream. Now you can't really 425 00:21:35,840 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: look at that and think you're getting any sort of 426 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:41,199 Speaker 1: edge because it's so the gambling stuff so popular. Is 427 00:21:41,200 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: there anything new that you can look at besides close 428 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: games and pythag that is kind of forward thinking and 429 00:21:47,280 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: projection as I mean, I would look at a couple 430 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:52,920 Speaker 1: of other luck things. I would look at fumble recovery, right, 431 00:21:53,800 --> 00:21:56,680 Speaker 1: and obviously it depends on the kinds of fumbles, because 432 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,119 Speaker 1: you know, aborted snaps are recovered by the offense a 433 00:22:00,160 --> 00:22:02,400 Speaker 1: lot more than like if you throw a twenty yard 434 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:05,520 Speaker 1: pass and the dude fumbles twenty yards down field. But 435 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:08,400 Speaker 1: I look at fumble recovery rates. I would look at 436 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 1: a field goals against. The Patriots were remarkably lucky last 437 00:22:13,320 --> 00:22:16,200 Speaker 1: year when it came to field goals against them being missed, 438 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:19,480 Speaker 1: which they really have no power over unless you blocked 439 00:22:19,520 --> 00:22:23,760 Speaker 1: the thing. Cleveland, on the other hand, the only field 440 00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:26,920 Speaker 1: goal missed against them all year was one that they 441 00:22:27,080 --> 00:22:30,760 Speaker 1: blocked against Joey Slive Houston. Every other field goal against 442 00:22:30,840 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 1: them went through the uprights. That is absolutely not going 443 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:36,400 Speaker 1: to happen again. Yeah, home, I see. That's a great 444 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 1: nugget football outsiders, almanact you just deliver. Um Carolin, what 445 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:43,919 Speaker 1: the way you talked about the Detroit Lions. I like 446 00:22:44,000 --> 00:22:46,840 Speaker 1: to think about the Carolina Panthers, given guys coming back 447 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:51,240 Speaker 1: from injury, assuming McCaffrey's healthy, I actually think Donald wins 448 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:53,800 Speaker 1: the job. But either Donald or Baker, I think this 449 00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 1: could be a nine and eight team in that division. Um, 450 00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:58,520 Speaker 1: and and maybe steal a wild card. Your thoughts on 451 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 1: the Panthers. I think a healthy Ker Mayfield is a 452 00:23:00,920 --> 00:23:03,919 Speaker 1: lot better than Sam Donald. Thinking with Baker Mayfield as 453 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: their quarterback and that defense and j. C. Hornback, and 454 00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:08,520 Speaker 1: if he plays as well as he did in the 455 00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,800 Speaker 1: early part of the season, and Brian Burns is not 456 00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: a guy people talk about, but he's very good. Um. Yeah, 457 00:23:15,560 --> 00:23:18,600 Speaker 1: I think that they could sort of like find their 458 00:23:18,600 --> 00:23:20,720 Speaker 1: way to nine and eight. The problem with the Panthers 459 00:23:20,800 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: is if they find their way to nine and eight 460 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:25,280 Speaker 1: and then get decimated in the first round of the playoffs, 461 00:23:25,320 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 1: like is that a victory? And the long term like 462 00:23:27,800 --> 00:23:31,400 Speaker 1: what are they what are they building there? Really? Well, 463 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,200 Speaker 1: I mean, is it getting to the playoffs? The plan? 464 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,080 Speaker 1: Isn't that good? Yeah? I mean, you know, look, I 465 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,119 Speaker 1: mean maybe I am a little bit of the jaded 466 00:23:40,160 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: New England or where I'm like, I don't want to 467 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 1: make it to the playoffs and just lose in the 468 00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:48,280 Speaker 1: first round. Whereas for some fan bases like Detroit, like 469 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:51,000 Speaker 1: they have it, they never make it to the playoffs. 470 00:23:51,000 --> 00:23:53,280 Speaker 1: So just to make it to the playoffs is super exciting. 471 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 1: But if you're talking about building a winning franchise down 472 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:00,840 Speaker 1: the line that can compete with the Chiefs and the 473 00:24:00,920 --> 00:24:04,959 Speaker 1: Chargers in the next few years, like the Baker Mayfield thing, 474 00:24:05,000 --> 00:24:08,159 Speaker 1: doesn't really get you much as far as building for 475 00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:10,199 Speaker 1: the future. I mean, they could build their defense for 476 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,439 Speaker 1: the future this year, like J. C. Horne and Brian 477 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:15,080 Speaker 1: Burns and there's you know, there's talented people there on 478 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 1: that defense, but uh, you know, it's they're still gonna 479 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: be looking for a quarterback. Now, Okay, is there a 480 00:24:21,040 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 1: scenario where you know, the Panthers, like you said, build 481 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: their defense. They've got several new pieces on the offensive line, 482 00:24:25,920 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: healthy McCaffrey, receivers are good, and they say, you know, 483 00:24:28,520 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 1: Baker's okay, but guess what, Jimmy G's out there looking. 484 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: Do we go after Jimmy Garoppolo And all of a 485 00:24:33,359 --> 00:24:35,800 Speaker 1: sudden we're kind of in that maybe I don't know, 486 00:24:35,920 --> 00:24:38,640 Speaker 1: upper middle class in the NFC. Tom Brady says, I'm 487 00:24:38,760 --> 00:24:40,840 Speaker 1: I'm done, And next thing you know, you're looking around 488 00:24:40,920 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: and you're like, cheez. Russell Wilson has gone. Tom Brady's gone. 489 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,320 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers says, what one or two more years, you know, 490 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:49,280 Speaker 1: where the Panthers we can be a perennial wild card 491 00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: playoff team in the NFC. I don't think anybody thinks 492 00:24:52,000 --> 00:24:54,800 Speaker 1: Garoppolo is that guy. And I can't imagine that the 493 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,359 Speaker 1: Panthers are gonna even though I think he's better than Mayfield, 494 00:24:58,240 --> 00:24:59,879 Speaker 1: I can't imagine the Panthers are gonna go out and 495 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,679 Speaker 1: do another quarterback trade. Interesting, all right, I don't know 496 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:06,439 Speaker 1: where Garoppolo. I don't honestly know where Garoppolo goes. Like, 497 00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:10,359 Speaker 1: the only things that makes sense are either Seattle or 498 00:25:10,359 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: Cleveland after the Watson suspension. Yeah, that's yeah. I like 499 00:25:13,520 --> 00:25:16,000 Speaker 1: the Cleveland line. I just it's pretty clear Seattle wants 500 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,280 Speaker 1: to tank, right, anybody who's hyped Drew Lock this much? 501 00:25:18,600 --> 00:25:20,760 Speaker 1: I mean your numbers say Drew Locks were probably one 502 00:25:20,800 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 1: of the worst WHAT quarterbacks in the last decade. Yeah 503 00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:30,920 Speaker 1: he's not good. Yeah, um rams repeat. This almost never 504 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 1: happens in the NFL. And you know Ram's offensive line woes. 505 00:25:34,800 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 1: They lost a couple of guys. I know people are 506 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,280 Speaker 1: excited about Allen Robinson, but I don't know. I like 507 00:25:40,320 --> 00:25:43,160 Speaker 1: the Matt Stafford drive, the McVeigh drive, like they got 508 00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 1: to the Super Bowl. I know that's kind of narrative e, 509 00:25:45,440 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 1: but I just I don't see a repeat happening for 510 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,760 Speaker 1: these guys. I mean, it's very unlikely that a repeat 511 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,800 Speaker 1: happens because there's plenty of other good teams. It's not 512 00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:56,560 Speaker 1: like they're the best team in the league by leaps 513 00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,440 Speaker 1: and bounds still be in the mix. Though. Allen Robinson 514 00:25:59,480 --> 00:26:01,959 Speaker 1: thing is really interesting. It's not just that he had 515 00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,639 Speaker 1: bad quarterbacks like last year, he was bad, Like he 516 00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 1: just didn't look good and it's really hard to know. 517 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,480 Speaker 1: Did he lose his step or did he just had 518 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 1: he just stopped caring about Chicago to such an extent 519 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 1: that he really just wasn't trying. And now that he's 520 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,080 Speaker 1: on a good team, he's like back in business, baby. 521 00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,879 Speaker 1: I mean, that's what happened with Randy Moss, so maybe 522 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,440 Speaker 1: that happens with Alan Robinson. We'll wrap up the NFC 523 00:26:24,520 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: with the San Francisco forty Niners and Trey Lance. Probably 524 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:31,520 Speaker 1: the most mysterious team in the NFC, right, I mean, 525 00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:34,560 Speaker 1: I don't know what to expect from Lance. I crunched 526 00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: the numbers. I think he's thrown less than four hundred 527 00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:39,399 Speaker 1: passes in football in the last four years. Yea, and 528 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: most of those were Vision one double A. So how 529 00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: do you how do you guys go about projecting this team? 530 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:47,920 Speaker 1: Is this like a just to stay away a wait 531 00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:51,159 Speaker 1: and see. I mean, we have them projected slightly above average. 532 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: I mean you're gonna can still project your defense, and 533 00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,680 Speaker 1: you can still project like if it's a rookie quarterback, 534 00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: but based on what the offense has done over the 535 00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:00,480 Speaker 1: last couple of years, it gives you an idea of 536 00:27:00,520 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: what the players are like around him. And you know, 537 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:05,480 Speaker 1: we know the Shanahan system leads to a good offense, 538 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,880 Speaker 1: and so you know, you come out with the offense 539 00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:10,440 Speaker 1: being like kind of average, even though it's a first 540 00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,000 Speaker 1: time starting quarterback, and so you end up with a 541 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,560 Speaker 1: team that's slightly above average overall. But you're right that 542 00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 1: the the range of possibilities is uh wide. Yeah, it's 543 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: a it's a weird one. I'm I'm a Jimmy G guy, 544 00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: so I'm I'm not rooting against Lance, but I'm not 545 00:27:27,400 --> 00:27:30,119 Speaker 1: rooting for him. All right, let's go to the a 546 00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:33,920 Speaker 1: f C West, the best division in football. Mahomes Herbert 547 00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:38,200 Speaker 1: car Russell Wilson. I know what the numbers say, Aaron, 548 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,560 Speaker 1: but I know sometimes you you're not a slave to 549 00:27:40,600 --> 00:27:42,800 Speaker 1: the numbers, and you come off of the numbers. The 550 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 1: Raiders were a ten and seven team last year, but 551 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,480 Speaker 1: had a minus sixty point differential. They are a lock 552 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,119 Speaker 1: for last in the a f C West. Correct. I 553 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:55,440 Speaker 1: wouldn't say lock, but going into the season, they definitely 554 00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: look like the worst of the four teams. They're better 555 00:27:57,680 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: than last year. They're not a minus sixty team this 556 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,680 Speaker 1: year because of Davante Adams, among other things, Chandler Jones, 557 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,399 Speaker 1: but uh yeah, they're the weakest of the four teams 558 00:28:07,400 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 1: in the n f C West. And this love for 559 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:11,679 Speaker 1: the Chargers in Herbert, I mean, we could do an 560 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:15,680 Speaker 1: hour on the history of the Chargers failures when expectations 561 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:18,560 Speaker 1: are there, you know, I can still basically recall the 562 00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,720 Speaker 1: entire final game of the season Chargers Raiders. I wanted 563 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,080 Speaker 1: to see Justin Herbert in the playoffs. Is there too 564 00:28:25,200 --> 00:28:28,080 Speaker 1: much being put on on the Chargers given they didn't 565 00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,159 Speaker 1: even make the playoffs last year? There are still some 566 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:33,960 Speaker 1: questions about Staley. Where are you on the Chargers? We 567 00:28:34,040 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: have them as one of the top teams in the league. 568 00:28:36,520 --> 00:28:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean, talk about turning around the defense. J C. 569 00:28:39,040 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: Jackson and Khalil Mack and Sebastian Joseph Day to help 570 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:45,720 Speaker 1: with the run defense. I mean, yeah, you know, Jerry 571 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:48,720 Speaker 1: Tillery will still be on the field some but um, 572 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,520 Speaker 1: you know, we love Staley as a coach. Being analytics people, 573 00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:55,560 Speaker 1: we think he's great. Herbert is a fantastic quarterback. The 574 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: defense should be much better this year. We are absolutely 575 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: riding with the Chargers. Absolutely interesting. I saw a fun 576 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: stat Errand that teams that spend like drunken sailors in 577 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 1: free agency. I think it's the last five years have 578 00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,000 Speaker 1: all increased their wins by like an average of like 579 00:29:12,040 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: three and a half or something, some kind of ridiculous number. 580 00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 1: Last year, that was the Patriots, your Patriots. This year, 581 00:29:17,320 --> 00:29:20,000 Speaker 1: could it be the Jacksonville Jaguars who also dumped urban 582 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 1: Meyer and now Doug Peterson Trevor Lawrence. Do you see 583 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,960 Speaker 1: Jacksonville making a big leap? I'm gonna go away from 584 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:32,640 Speaker 1: the numbers now subjectively emotionally, don't we all think that 585 00:29:32,760 --> 00:29:35,160 Speaker 1: urban Meyer might have been the worst coach in the 586 00:29:35,240 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 1: history of the NFL. Yeah, going from that to an 587 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 1: above average head coach, which is what Doug Peterson is, 588 00:29:43,320 --> 00:29:47,000 Speaker 1: shouldn't that have a really big impact on this team? 589 00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:50,600 Speaker 1: And we know how good Lawrence was coming out of college. 590 00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,640 Speaker 1: He was the best quarterback prospects since Andrew Luck Like 591 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: he should be much better this year. And so just 592 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,120 Speaker 1: this is not an numbers argument, but if those things 593 00:30:02,160 --> 00:30:06,120 Speaker 1: are true, shouldn't Jacksonville be sniffing five hundred and then 594 00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: and maybe even winning a week Division? I mean, we 595 00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: have this is a week division. We have the whole 596 00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: a f C South projected behind the entire a f 597 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: C West, maybe Jackson wins the thing at nine and eight. 598 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 599 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:23,720 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 600 00:30:23,800 --> 00:30:26,880 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app. 601 00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:29,880 Speaker 1: Search f s R to listen live. You're not in 602 00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:33,480 Speaker 1: on Matt Ryan and the Colts. Um, we we've been 603 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:36,280 Speaker 1: having internal arguments on Matt Ryan and the Colt's. Like 604 00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Derek Lassen, who's our film guy, thinks Ryan still has 605 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,440 Speaker 1: a lot left and he'll really fit into Frank Frike's offense. 606 00:30:43,760 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: Some of us feel like he's definitely declining and he's 607 00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 1: not on the Tom Brady aging path. He's on the 608 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:56,120 Speaker 1: more traditional quarterback aging path. So, um, you know, we 609 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: have the Colts defense declining a little bit. Jonathan Taylor 610 00:30:59,760 --> 00:31:01,600 Speaker 1: was oh good last year. He's not gonna be that 611 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: good again. There's real questions about the receivers. There's real 612 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:09,440 Speaker 1: questions at left tackle. Um, I mean, I think the 613 00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: Cults are more of a five hundred team. Their number 614 00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,600 Speaker 1: in Vegas right now is ten. Like I would really 615 00:31:14,640 --> 00:31:18,000 Speaker 1: go under on that. Really. Okay, So about three years 616 00:31:18,000 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 1: in a row, I bet the Titans under and Derrick 617 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: Henry's made me look like a jackass every single year. 618 00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:25,400 Speaker 1: This has to be the year, right there. There's no 619 00:31:25,560 --> 00:31:28,280 Speaker 1: way losing a j Brown, the questions with Tannehill and 620 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,440 Speaker 1: the kid they drafted and Henry coming off the injury, 621 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,760 Speaker 1: there's no way they're a double digit win team, right, 622 00:31:34,600 --> 00:31:36,640 Speaker 1: I mean I would go Titans under two. Yeah, Like 623 00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,120 Speaker 1: I said, I mean we've got the whole a FC 624 00:31:38,280 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 1: South with an average projection and all, you know, we 625 00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: do all these different simulations. The average projection is under 626 00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 1: five hundred for all four teams in the division. So um, 627 00:31:47,960 --> 00:31:50,440 Speaker 1: I would much rather go under ten on the Colts 628 00:31:50,440 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: than under nine on the Titans. But if you made 629 00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:54,760 Speaker 1: me go over or under on both of them, I'm 630 00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 1: going under on both. Okay, when you hear the phrase, 631 00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:04,280 Speaker 1: um super Bowl hangover and somebody applies it to the Bengals, 632 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 1: do you just involuntary vomit in your mouth or like? 633 00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: Is that just something so bad to a number to care? 634 00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: But that being said, the Bengals got very lucky last year. However, 635 00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:20,960 Speaker 1: is that they were an average team during the riding season, right, 636 00:32:20,960 --> 00:32:23,479 Speaker 1: I mean that's it's not there's no hangover, it's just 637 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: they weren't as good during the regular season. As they 638 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: were in the playoffs. So will they be better than 639 00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:31,440 Speaker 1: that this year? Probably? Will that mean more wins? Probably not. 640 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: And that's also has to do with the division being 641 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,239 Speaker 1: a lot tougher. I mean the Ravens injuries, Cleveland with 642 00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: Watson and like you said, maybe Garoppolo. Yeah, let me 643 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,600 Speaker 1: ask Pittsburgh nine seven and one with a below average 644 00:32:45,640 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger. I mean, if Trabiskie can be average, assuming 645 00:32:49,720 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: he wins the job, like Steelers defense is going to 646 00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:54,520 Speaker 1: keep them in the mix, right, that division once again 647 00:32:54,600 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: remains very tough. Yeah. Absolutely, assuming it's not Jacoby Brissette 648 00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:01,920 Speaker 1: at quarterback for clear one, that division looks very tough. Yeah. 649 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:04,320 Speaker 1: I mean Baltimore is going to come back with all 650 00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: those injuries last year and guys getting healthy and how 651 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 1: good Baltimore was in like, they're gonna rebound. I like 652 00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:16,600 Speaker 1: them to win that division. It's a strong division. The Yeah, 653 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:18,280 Speaker 1: it's just looking at the a f C, we didn't 654 00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: even mention the top two teams, the Chiefs and the Bills. 655 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,240 Speaker 1: This feels like the first time in I guess three 656 00:33:23,320 --> 00:33:25,959 Speaker 1: years that the Chiefs are not number one coming in right, 657 00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:29,920 Speaker 1: Losing Tyrequel has to matter, and and I'm assuming Buffalo. 658 00:33:30,000 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: You guys have them in the Super Bowl. We have 659 00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:34,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo as the Super Bowl favorite. Yeah. Now, I will 660 00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:39,320 Speaker 1: say our simulation always comes out very conservative, and this 661 00:33:39,440 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 1: year it came out even more conservative than usual. In 662 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:47,320 Speaker 1: other words, the teams are clustered closer to five hundred then, 663 00:33:47,400 --> 00:33:49,960 Speaker 1: even more than they usually are for us, which sort 664 00:33:49,960 --> 00:33:53,600 Speaker 1: of suggests that it's like anybody's ball game. But out 665 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,120 Speaker 1: of those teams, even though they're clustered close to five, 666 00:33:56,840 --> 00:34:01,000 Speaker 1: the best one is pretty clearly the Buffalo is. Yeah, 667 00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 1: how do you guys adjust the numbers when you see 668 00:34:03,720 --> 00:34:07,400 Speaker 1: something like Brian Dable was hugely responsible for Josh Allen 669 00:34:07,440 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: becoming a great quarterback. We can all agree on that, 670 00:34:09,560 --> 00:34:12,879 Speaker 1: and now Brian Dable leaves, but you you can talk 671 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: about sort of what happens to teams when they have 672 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:18,520 Speaker 1: new offensive coordinators and new schemes in general. But it's 673 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,000 Speaker 1: really hard to do an analytical adjustment for a specific 674 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 1: coach because we just don't have the history, like how 675 00:34:26,040 --> 00:34:28,279 Speaker 1: many jobs has day Ball had where he ran the 676 00:34:28,400 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: actually ran the offense to be able to go Okay, 677 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:33,880 Speaker 1: Dable is really good because I'll tell you the jobs 678 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: he's had where he's run the offense. We're not this 679 00:34:36,280 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 1: good until the last couple of years. So even if 680 00:34:39,080 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 1: we did like a special dable variable, it wouldn't actually 681 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:44,719 Speaker 1: be that good. Yeah, So like, go go back to 682 00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:47,719 Speaker 1: the Vikings and O'Connell. I read somewhere that he's never 683 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,880 Speaker 1: called plate, never called plays when he was with the Rams. 684 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,440 Speaker 1: Now I get, I don't know how that, if that's factual, 685 00:34:54,520 --> 00:34:57,279 Speaker 1: how that works. But like to expect a guy from 686 00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,560 Speaker 1: going not calling plays to being the head coach of 687 00:34:59,560 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: a Viking team with some expectations Like, again, that's something. 688 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:05,160 Speaker 1: How do you quantify that? I mean we quant I 689 00:35:05,160 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 1: mean the fact is that, in general, all other things 690 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:13,040 Speaker 1: being equal, teams with new coordinators do take to tend 691 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:17,040 Speaker 1: tend to take a little step back. Um, we just 692 00:35:17,120 --> 00:35:19,360 Speaker 1: happen to like enough other things about the Vikings that 693 00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:21,960 Speaker 1: we like the Vikings overall, But in general, teams with 694 00:35:22,000 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: new coordinators do tend to take a step back. After that, 695 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: we can't really adjust for the specific coordinators because there's 696 00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: no evidence of how good chevinal ConfL So how do 697 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:33,520 Speaker 1: you adjust? I mean, you know, in part that's why 698 00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: we write a bunch of words in our book instead 699 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 1: of just running a bunch of numbers like then, you know, 700 00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 1: we want to talk about these coaches and who we 701 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,640 Speaker 1: think is good and we think it's bad. We put 702 00:35:41,640 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: that in the paragraphs. So the to wrap up the 703 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,600 Speaker 1: Macro NFL overview the Miami Dolphins, I love to add 704 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 1: Alabama then he had the injury. I have not like 705 00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:54,319 Speaker 1: what I've seen in the NFL, but smart teams with 706 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,880 Speaker 1: the quarterback on the rookie deal at a star receiver. 707 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:00,120 Speaker 1: Insert Tyreek Hill in there. In my gosh, it's who 708 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,440 Speaker 1: can't find success with Wattle and uh the tight end 709 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 1: and Tyreek Hill, Like there's gonna be major problems there. 710 00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 1: But they also have a new head coach, a guy 711 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 1: McDaniel from the from the four ninners. That's a lot 712 00:36:11,440 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: to take in. Our expectations too high erin from Miami, 713 00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,120 Speaker 1: I think a little bit, but I mean they could 714 00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,880 Speaker 1: match them. I think in general, it's like we have 715 00:36:19,960 --> 00:36:23,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots slightly above five hundred and the Dolphins slightly 716 00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,239 Speaker 1: below fire but it could definitely be switched. I mean, 717 00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 1: neither of them is winning the division. Unless the Bills 718 00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,880 Speaker 1: get racked by injuries. The Bills are winning the division. Yes, clearly. Um, 719 00:36:32,880 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: all right, so now the largely speaking about gambling in futures. Listen, 720 00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:40,800 Speaker 1: I don't always advocate guys hey tie up money with 721 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,480 Speaker 1: six months before the season starts, you know, to X 722 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:48,759 Speaker 1: team to and over unders as well. I am curious 723 00:36:48,840 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: if any any over unders jumped out at you as man, 724 00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:54,759 Speaker 1: that would be maybe a little more than pizza money 725 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 1: or a super Bowl futures. Now I can toot my horn. 726 00:36:57,560 --> 00:36:59,480 Speaker 1: I did hit the Rams super Bowl future last year. 727 00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: I just loved Stafford move. I was bullish on Stafford. 728 00:37:02,280 --> 00:37:04,719 Speaker 1: Is there any super Bowl future or over unders that 729 00:37:04,800 --> 00:37:06,840 Speaker 1: you really really like? I haven't looked at the Super 730 00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,840 Speaker 1: Bowl futures. I think the Eagles would probably be the 731 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,560 Speaker 1: Super Bowl future that I would lead boards. I don't 732 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,280 Speaker 1: know what the odds are, but given what conventional wisdom 733 00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:18,719 Speaker 1: is on them, I think that that would probably be 734 00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 1: the one I would take to get the best odds. 735 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:23,359 Speaker 1: I mean, the likelihood you're gonna hit it as low, 736 00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 1: but it probably has good odds as far as over 737 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:30,920 Speaker 1: unders go. I like under ten on the Colts. Mhm, uh, 738 00:37:31,200 --> 00:37:34,359 Speaker 1: I like uh. I actually kind of like under eight 739 00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:38,719 Speaker 1: and eight point five on the Cardinals. Fans is going 740 00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:43,479 Speaker 1: to really come back to Yeah, I like over eight 741 00:37:43,640 --> 00:37:46,839 Speaker 1: on the Saints. Oh yeah, we didn't talk about the Saints. 742 00:37:46,880 --> 00:37:49,880 Speaker 1: Your wide receiver room or went from a bunch of 743 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:55,240 Speaker 1: guys last year to like Michael Um, Michael, Michael Thomas, 744 00:37:55,680 --> 00:38:00,040 Speaker 1: the kid, Yeah, and Jarvis Landry. But they have the 745 00:38:00,360 --> 00:38:04,759 Speaker 1: number one projected defense in our projections. So if they 746 00:38:04,800 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 1: manage to have an average offense with a top defense, 747 00:38:09,040 --> 00:38:11,680 Speaker 1: that is a good team. Good enough to beat Tampa Bay. 748 00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,560 Speaker 1: Probably not good enough to beat eight nine, I absolutely 749 00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 1: think so, Aaron, is this a bit of a reach? 750 00:38:19,400 --> 00:38:23,640 Speaker 1: Should we be correlating unders to the rugged, brutal nf 751 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:27,040 Speaker 1: a f C and more likely to bet overs in 752 00:38:27,080 --> 00:38:33,000 Speaker 1: the NFC where there's really only a handful of good teams. Oh, 753 00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:38,680 Speaker 1: I mean that's probably priced into the overs and unders. Vegas, Um, 754 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,960 Speaker 1: what about NF NFC West and a f C West 755 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:45,680 Speaker 1: play one another. So did that factor into your Cardinals 756 00:38:45,719 --> 00:38:48,279 Speaker 1: under eight and a half? I mean they have. They 757 00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,680 Speaker 1: have I believe, the second hardest schedule in the league 758 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,120 Speaker 1: by our numbers, and it's the hardest schedule in the league. 759 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:58,920 Speaker 1: If Watson is not suspended. Oh geez, Now, I do 760 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,960 Speaker 1: need to ask about that when you see Kyler Murray 761 00:39:02,000 --> 00:39:06,040 Speaker 1: getting a massive contract. They just made the playoffs, but 762 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,840 Speaker 1: you're looking at the under and second heart of schedule. 763 00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: This is setting up for some internal issues, shall we say, 764 00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:18,840 Speaker 1: in Arizona going forward? Yeah, I mean, I I absolutely think, Um, 765 00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: this is the year we're gonna find out if Cliff 766 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:23,400 Speaker 1: Kingsbury can coach the second half of the season, because 767 00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:27,359 Speaker 1: with Hopkins coming back at mid season, they have all 768 00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,279 Speaker 1: the reason in the world to not go in the 769 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:31,719 Speaker 1: tank in the second half the way that click Kingsbury's 770 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: teams have done going all the way back to Texas Tech. 771 00:39:34,680 --> 00:39:38,959 Speaker 1: But no, you're absolutely right. If our projections are born out, 772 00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:40,839 Speaker 1: and you know, they don't all come true, but if 773 00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:43,279 Speaker 1: the Arizona one does, there's gonna be a lot of 774 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: people sniping at each other in Arizona. By the way, 775 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:51,359 Speaker 1: Arizona opens with Kansas City, then at the Raiders, then 776 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:54,560 Speaker 1: versus the Rams, so three playoff teams from last year, 777 00:39:54,600 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: then at the Panthers cross country trip versus the Eagles, 778 00:39:59,080 --> 00:40:04,239 Speaker 1: and see same. The end of their schedule is really hard. 779 00:40:04,280 --> 00:40:06,960 Speaker 1: They have three straight road games that are usually against 780 00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:11,440 Speaker 1: good teams. Yeah, it is not a favorable schedule. You're right, man, 781 00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:14,560 Speaker 1: that is brutal. Um. All right, Aaron, any other thoughts 782 00:40:14,600 --> 00:40:17,680 Speaker 1: you have on the league? Um, you know, any fantasy 783 00:40:17,719 --> 00:40:21,160 Speaker 1: thoughts other than the Kirk cousins justin Jefferson Love. Are 784 00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,600 Speaker 1: we gonna see Burrow step back a little bit? You think? No, 785 00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:27,160 Speaker 1: I think Burrow will step forward. I think Burrow will 786 00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: take fewer sacks and don't I mean, you know, his 787 00:40:30,000 --> 00:40:33,920 Speaker 1: numbers per attempt may not be quite as good as 788 00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:36,360 Speaker 1: last year, but I think he'll probably have more attempts 789 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:39,000 Speaker 1: because the offense will be on the field more because 790 00:40:39,000 --> 00:40:42,280 Speaker 1: they'll take fewer sacks. Yeah, they got three new starting 791 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: offensive lineman. You guys historically don't have anything on when 792 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 1: a team adds two or three new starters on the 793 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:51,319 Speaker 1: offensive line. Not anything that's at the tip of my tongue. No, yeah, yeah, 794 00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:53,640 Speaker 1: that that's the kind of thing that I have concerns with, 795 00:40:53,680 --> 00:40:57,759 Speaker 1: Like that doesn't happen overnight. Right, There's no question that, 796 00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: you know, all of the things being equal, it's good 797 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:02,640 Speaker 1: to have continuity on the offensive line, but when you're 798 00:41:02,640 --> 00:41:05,480 Speaker 1: as bad as they were last year, you don't want continuity. 799 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:10,680 Speaker 1: You want new And lastly, Aaron Um, all we heard 800 00:41:10,760 --> 00:41:13,840 Speaker 1: last year was man, Denver's got such a great roster. 801 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:17,359 Speaker 1: The defense is loaded, the receivers. Uh, Denver just needs 802 00:41:17,360 --> 00:41:20,680 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Well they have one now. Um. Unfortunately, schedule 803 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,760 Speaker 1: is very tough. But where are you on the Broncos? 804 00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:25,160 Speaker 1: Is this if they made the Super Bowl? Would you 805 00:41:25,200 --> 00:41:28,759 Speaker 1: be stunned? No? I wouldn't be stunned. But you have 806 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,520 Speaker 1: to read the Denver chapter to get the full story. 807 00:41:31,600 --> 00:41:34,720 Speaker 1: But I'm gonna give a quick version right here. People 808 00:41:34,800 --> 00:41:38,759 Speaker 1: do not understand last year's Broncos at all. Because of 809 00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: the way they played at a very slow pace and 810 00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:46,239 Speaker 1: the way their special teams were and the way the 811 00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:50,120 Speaker 1: offense didn't turn the ball over very much. Their defense 812 00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,880 Speaker 1: had the like the best average starting line of scrimmage 813 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: of any defense. So when you look at yards per 814 00:41:58,280 --> 00:42:03,080 Speaker 1: play and yards per drive rather than points allowed, Denver 815 00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: was a slightly below average defense last year. Like the 816 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:11,160 Speaker 1: fact that they were third in the league in points 817 00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: allowed is a complete like statistical distortion. They were better 818 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,080 Speaker 1: on offense than you think and worse on defense. So 819 00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,920 Speaker 1: I don't think that Denver defense is going to be 820 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:25,080 Speaker 1: good this year. Yes, I know, Patrick certain not disson 821 00:42:25,160 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: on Patrick. Certain, I know Gregory and Chub. Let's see 822 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: if Gregory and Hub can stay healthy. But overall, the 823 00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: numbers suggest it's not a really good defense. Their offense, 824 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,279 Speaker 1: on the other hand, does have weapons and a good 825 00:42:39,280 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: offensive line and now Russell Wilson, so we like their 826 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:45,600 Speaker 1: offense this year. But the idea that you're adding Russell 827 00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:49,600 Speaker 1: Wilson to this great defense is a statistical distortion. So 828 00:42:49,640 --> 00:42:52,680 Speaker 1: how does that happen with the with the average starting position? 829 00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:57,399 Speaker 1: Is that a big pro Their special teams was just incredible. Uh, 830 00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: it's not that their special teams was good. It was 831 00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,719 Speaker 1: that they play in Denver, and so you've got the 832 00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: high altitude leading to longer kickoffs and longer punts, and 833 00:43:06,360 --> 00:43:09,279 Speaker 1: their offense just didn't turn the ball over much and 834 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,560 Speaker 1: they just played very slowly. So they one reason that 835 00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:17,640 Speaker 1: Denver allowed so few points is they faced fewer drives 836 00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:23,720 Speaker 1: than any other defense because their offense played so slowly. Geezy, 837 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,760 Speaker 1: that's the kind of stuff that you're not just gonna 838 00:43:25,800 --> 00:43:31,160 Speaker 1: get reading regular stories. Football Outsiders Almanac Almanac. 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