WEBVTT - Ep. 297: Crap No! 0:00:08.960 --> 0:00:13.320 This is me eat podcast coming at you shirtless, severely 0:00:13.480 --> 0:00:18.599 bug bitten in my case, underwear listening podcast. You can't 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:24.480 predict anything presented by first like creating proven, versatile hunting 0:00:24.480 --> 0:00:28.840 apparel from Marino bass layers to technical outerwear for every hunt. 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:37.120 First light, Go farther, stay longer. All right, everybody, We're 0:00:37.120 --> 0:00:41.560 coming from Michigan's Upper Peninsula the u P and uh. 0:00:41.840 --> 0:00:44.360 Here was Sean Weaver, who has been pain right now 0:00:45.280 --> 0:00:51.400 to be recording up stupid podcast in the cold gray 0:00:51.520 --> 0:00:55.200 light of dawn on the duck hunt, right at sunrise, 0:00:55.280 --> 0:00:59.560 recording a podcast. It's just it's just it should be illegal. 0:01:01.600 --> 0:01:04.000 But the way it worked out, like Phil's here all 0:01:04.040 --> 0:01:06.760 the way, all the way to to to take his 0:01:06.880 --> 0:01:09.680 engineering abilities on the road, that's true. Did you have 0:01:09.680 --> 0:01:12.280 fun yesterday, Phil out dock Hutton. Oh yeah, no, it 0:01:12.360 --> 0:01:14.440 was a blast. Especially. I mean, we'll get into it later. 0:01:14.480 --> 0:01:16.640 But seeing those boats here we're using and everything, it 0:01:16.680 --> 0:01:18.560 was something I was not aware of. You weren't aware 0:01:18.560 --> 0:01:21.680 a layoff boats, not at all. Yeah. Um, the last 0:01:21.680 --> 0:01:24.400 time we were this is a different experience because the 0:01:24.440 --> 0:01:26.959 last time we were on the road together to record 0:01:26.959 --> 0:01:29.680 a show, we got to go to a tiki bar. 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.840 That's true. Well, here's the thing. I was planning on 0:01:32.920 --> 0:01:35.959 going by myself. I wasn't going to subject you to that. 0:01:36.680 --> 0:01:41.559 And then for some reason you and cal Rourke, Denver, 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:46.400 your your wife all decided to join. Uh and it 0:01:46.480 --> 0:01:49.440 was embarrassing for you to witness me in that in 0:01:49.840 --> 0:01:53.040 that sort of space. But was it your birthday or 0:01:53.080 --> 0:01:56.760 my anniversary? Was my wedding anniversary? And we shared a 0:01:56.840 --> 0:02:00.880 drink out of a pineapple? It's pretty covid people. Yes, 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:06.640 it was the birth of COVID Yeah, that's it was February. 0:02:06.680 --> 0:02:12.440 It was the fane. Well, yeah, we're at the National 0:02:12.480 --> 0:02:14.440 Wild Turkey Federation. There's no way of knowing, but us 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:16.440 sharing that drink could have you know, it could have 0:02:16.440 --> 0:02:19.520 spread it. Yeah, it was the pineapple. Okay. So Phil's here, 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:24.320 joined by Sean Weaver and also Dylan Grapes Michigan Native 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:29.040 Lake State University. Did you graduate alone? What's your study? 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:32.359 Fishers in wildlife? You did? Man? Everybody I know that 0:02:32.400 --> 0:02:35.720 went there did that. I haven't used it yet, but 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:38.200 I got it. Well, no, you use it like he 0:02:38.360 --> 0:02:41.760 use it like a like what it was meant for? Man? Yeah, 0:02:41.800 --> 0:02:44.480 you got a major in duck hunting. You don't feel 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:47.200 that you ever killed Have you ever killed a duck? 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.480 You wouldn't have killed if you hadn't gone to Lake 0:02:49.560 --> 0:02:55.720 State and learned something. Um probably not, Probably not. I've 0:02:55.800 --> 0:02:58.280 forked out a lot of money to kill one extra Yeah, 0:02:58.320 --> 0:03:00.560 I'd like, yeah, I want It makes me returned to 0:03:00.600 --> 0:03:03.800 a thing that uh, Pat Durkin said, I think on 0:03:03.840 --> 0:03:06.960 this podcast where he was talking about what he Pat 0:03:07.040 --> 0:03:09.320 Durkin used to be the He us to be the 0:03:09.440 --> 0:03:13.240 editor of Deer and Deer Hunting magazine, and so he 0:03:13.440 --> 0:03:15.240 got to spent a lot of time with him profile 0:03:15.280 --> 0:03:17.920 a lot of like sort of the most famous big 0:03:17.960 --> 0:03:23.800 bark killers on the planet, and he gradually became disheartened 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:30.000 because he said that somehow many of them, um as 0:03:30.480 --> 0:03:35.160 polished as they are at killing deer, would be incapable 0:03:35.200 --> 0:03:38.280 of telling you what kind of tree their tree stand 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:43.400 is in. And he wanted it to be otherwise, right, 0:03:43.760 --> 0:03:45.080 you know, But it's good that you got like a 0:03:45.120 --> 0:03:48.920 fish and wildlife deal. Yeah. I enjoyed it, and it 0:03:49.000 --> 0:03:53.040 brought me to this area that I'd really never explored 0:03:53.080 --> 0:03:57.480 a whole lot. And I got four years to drive 0:03:57.520 --> 0:03:59.560 around and look at all sorts of ship and so 0:03:59.640 --> 0:04:03.720 you start, you started. Yeah, I I came up here 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:08.880 in two thousand and fifteen, was my freshman year. And then, uh, 0:04:08.920 --> 0:04:11.960 you did it because of the hunting potential. The bid 0:04:12.040 --> 0:04:15.680 then for me was that when you lived on campus, 0:04:17.279 --> 0:04:20.479 at our public safety you could like check in your shotgun, 0:04:21.120 --> 0:04:23.080 so you could if you lived in the dorms, you 0:04:23.120 --> 0:04:25.800 could put your gun at the public safety and then 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.640 you could go in and check it out, go hunted, 0:04:27.640 --> 0:04:30.720 and back in. And so you lived in dorms. Yeah, 0:04:30.839 --> 0:04:32.800 my first two years. See when I was up here, 0:04:33.040 --> 0:04:36.000 we got a waiver somehow or another. They had like 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:39.440 a let a sign off you could do that. They 0:04:39.440 --> 0:04:42.520 had to approve if you want to live within the 0:04:42.560 --> 0:04:46.080 first two years. But I did the dorm dorm life 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.640 for two years and then moved off. It's interested to 0:04:48.680 --> 0:04:51.320 this place. I'm glad to hear that lake, the Lake 0:04:51.400 --> 0:04:56.679 state and the up still sucks in hunting fishing kids 0:04:57.000 --> 0:05:01.600 from downstate because me and my brother, uh, they both 0:05:01.640 --> 0:05:05.920 wanted to do fishing wildlife. So we all did community college, 0:05:06.120 --> 0:05:10.960 which we call like thirteenth grade skiing community college. UM, 0:05:11.040 --> 0:05:14.240 and then they came up here. I came up and 0:05:14.279 --> 0:05:16.159 did one year. But I was like, I wanted to 0:05:16.160 --> 0:05:18.640 be a writer by that point mostly, so I only 0:05:18.640 --> 0:05:21.640 did one semester here and then went back down state 0:05:21.720 --> 0:05:24.520 where you could get like a writing whatever the hell? 0:05:24.839 --> 0:05:28.120 Yeah at Grand Valley. But then we hung out here. 0:05:28.120 --> 0:05:31.200 If this is our primary hangout for years up here 0:05:31.240 --> 0:05:36.200 to fish, steel ahead, yeah, everything else man, hunting, deer, Yeah, 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.720 there's all sorts of If you just kind of get 0:05:38.760 --> 0:05:42.880 out and you know, explore, you can find all the 0:05:42.880 --> 0:05:45.760 fishing and hunting opportunities you want. Oh it's amazing, man. 0:05:45.920 --> 0:05:48.960 And it's like a thirty minute drive. It's not. You're 0:05:49.000 --> 0:05:52.359 not ranging like you find out in the West where 0:05:52.360 --> 0:05:55.840 you gotta go few everything four hours. Yeah. No, that's 0:05:55.839 --> 0:05:58.279 a good spot. Man. So so now you're you're a 0:05:58.279 --> 0:06:02.200 waterfowl guide yep, but you work out in Kansas. I 0:06:02.279 --> 0:06:07.440 died out in Kansas. Um for bid Kansas Outdoors And then, um, 0:06:07.480 --> 0:06:12.000 what's that place we're out of, Hutchinson? Um do you 0:06:12.000 --> 0:06:16.120 recommend it? Oh? Yeah, really good? People? Would you tell 0:06:16.200 --> 0:06:17.920 me if you didn't recommend it that that'd put you 0:06:17.920 --> 0:06:21.480 in a weird spot? As long as Ben's not listening 0:06:21.480 --> 0:06:24.880 to the podcast now, I I uh last year is 0:06:24.880 --> 0:06:29.400 my first year. UM. I really didn't really enjoyed it. UM. 0:06:29.440 --> 0:06:33.640 It was completely different for me. UM coming from Michigan 0:06:33.800 --> 0:06:36.920 where you're hunting honkers and going out there and you're 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.880 hunting lessers and specks and snows, and that was just 0:06:40.480 --> 0:06:44.240 completely different. UM. So I had to there was a 0:06:44.240 --> 0:06:47.520 big learning curve. UM. I'm sure I'll learn more this 0:06:47.640 --> 0:06:50.800 year too. But there's a lot of birds. Everybody at 0:06:50.839 --> 0:06:55.680 the at the business does their part. Everybody works hard, 0:06:55.760 --> 0:06:58.039 and so that was clients on birds. But that was 0:06:58.080 --> 0:07:00.960 your first year. I'm just I'm confused. So last year 0:07:01.040 --> 0:07:03.200 was your first year guiding there or first year as 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:08.839 a guide ever, um, first year guiding there, And I 0:07:08.880 --> 0:07:13.600 did a few controlled uh pheasant hunts here in Michigan 0:07:13.720 --> 0:07:17.960 as branches um, but that was about it. And then 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.640 obviously out there is like four and a half months 0:07:22.080 --> 0:07:25.720 of guiding, so it's a grind UM. And then I 0:07:25.840 --> 0:07:29.480 come back here and this year I have a good 0:07:29.480 --> 0:07:34.640 buddy uh kind of central up that runs bear hunts, 0:07:35.280 --> 0:07:36.800 and I went out there and I helped him run 0:07:36.840 --> 0:07:40.480 bear clients UM in September, and then I ran a 0:07:40.480 --> 0:07:44.120 few hunter hunts up here too. So when you're doing 0:07:44.120 --> 0:07:47.120 the bear clients, you guys are it's it's like draw 0:07:47.240 --> 0:07:50.600 tech eggs, but you're running. You're running baits in September YEP. 0:07:50.800 --> 0:07:53.120 So it's all we have a point system for our 0:07:53.120 --> 0:07:56.400 bear tags here, um, and then we run. We took 0:07:56.400 --> 0:08:02.120 on twenty clients and we run thirty five different baits. UM, 0:08:02.160 --> 0:08:05.680 so we stay busy. Do you just get big bears? Um? 0:08:05.960 --> 0:08:08.640 We had a lot on camera. The biggest bear we 0:08:08.720 --> 0:08:12.520 killed us three hundred pounds, which for mission, our average 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:16.160 black bears a pounds. That's a good bear. But we 0:08:16.200 --> 0:08:19.240 had a lot of pictures, you know, four or five pounders. 0:08:19.280 --> 0:08:21.560 But when you get clients in the stand that have 0:08:21.640 --> 0:08:24.480 never seen a bear before, the smaller ones is always 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:28.840 trying to come in first. When that one watchs then 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:32.439 to them it looks like the four hundred pounder and 0:08:32.480 --> 0:08:35.760 they shoot it. But we didn't have like when I 0:08:35.760 --> 0:08:38.480 lived in Lower Lower Peninsula, we didn't have bear hunting. 0:08:38.720 --> 0:08:40.360 There was just there was bear hunting a little bit 0:08:40.360 --> 0:08:42.000 north of us. We didn't have bear hunting where we live, 0:08:42.080 --> 0:08:46.520 so like, bear tags weren't really on our radar. UM. Well, 0:08:46.559 --> 0:08:49.480 my brother Danny started going to school up here. He 0:08:49.600 --> 0:08:53.160 right away drew a bear tag. So we started going 0:08:53.160 --> 0:08:59.320 out and U shooting carp with our bows, which isn't 0:08:59.320 --> 0:09:02.400 the best. Baby didn't really know what we're doing. And 0:09:02.440 --> 0:09:04.120 I had a big freezer already used to freeze like 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.319 muskrats and stuff during trapping season. We filled that thing 0:09:07.400 --> 0:09:10.360 up with bags of carp um that we shot with 0:09:10.360 --> 0:09:13.600 our bows. And so he started. He started a little 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.839 bait stationed up here and right away killed and I 0:09:15.840 --> 0:09:17.439 remember he had a nice one. He killed like a 0:09:17.480 --> 0:09:22.920 two pound boar um right away. And then my other 0:09:23.000 --> 0:09:24.719 brother when he came up here, he got a bear 0:09:24.840 --> 0:09:27.520 tag and he went and did like the thing where 0:09:27.520 --> 0:09:32.760 you go around and get expired. Yeah, you know, remember 0:09:32.800 --> 0:09:37.240 it so funny. He came into a case of bugles. 0:09:37.840 --> 0:09:40.920 You know, it was like little bugles. Yeah, put him 0:09:40.920 --> 0:09:45.160 on your fingers or you get cheese. Like I remember 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.199 a guy used to when I was working for doing 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:50.240 a millwright work for Ronnie Bam, there was a guy 0:09:50.320 --> 0:09:53.000 that he had who had had too many d u 0:09:53.200 --> 0:09:55.880 s and couldn't drive anymore. So I was like his 0:09:56.000 --> 0:09:58.560 basing his chauffeur because he knew how to do a 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:00.600 lot of the jobs. So I became like I had 0:10:00.600 --> 0:10:02.120 to drive him around because he couldn't drive, and that 0:10:02.240 --> 0:10:03.760 learned how to do all of it. The stuff he did. 0:10:04.760 --> 0:10:07.880 His favorite treat on Friday night driving back from the 0:10:07.960 --> 0:10:10.520 job is he get bugles in a thing of squirt 0:10:10.600 --> 0:10:15.200 cheese in black olves. And he liked to fill that 0:10:15.360 --> 0:10:18.439 bugle up with squirt cheese, top it with a black 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.720 olive and eat it while he's going down the road. 0:10:22.640 --> 0:10:27.280 And you can imagine he had a drink accompaniment. So anyhow, 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:31.439 like my brother wander around out in the woods, and 0:10:31.480 --> 0:10:33.160 I even have a picture of him, like he's like 0:10:33.280 --> 0:10:36.240 standing there with like all these bugles, but he'd always 0:10:36.280 --> 0:10:38.280 have a box the bugles under his arm and he'd 0:10:38.280 --> 0:10:40.719 be eating the bugles. But then he's like dumped him. 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:43.559 Then he dumped some of the box into the bait thing. 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.480 But it finally becomes the first day and he comes 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.439 out there with a He goes out there with a 0:10:47.520 --> 0:10:51.920 bucket to add the bait pile, right, and he goes 0:10:51.960 --> 0:10:54.680 and dumps the bucket on the bait pile. And he's 0:10:54.679 --> 0:10:59.040 getting situated in his blind and realize that ship I 0:10:59.120 --> 0:11:01.560 left a bucket at the bait pile. So he says 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.760 he spins to look and there's already a bear standing 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:08.880 there and that was his bear. Nice just like very productive. 0:11:09.559 --> 0:11:12.640 Did he did he topped the pile off with squirt 0:11:12.720 --> 0:11:14.640 cheese and all it. No, No, I don't know. That 0:11:14.760 --> 0:11:16.720 was a different guy straight that would have brought him, 0:11:16.760 --> 0:11:18.640 would have brought in the big ones. But yeah, man, 0:11:18.679 --> 0:11:22.720 it was a whole other world, you know living up here. Man. Yeah, yeah, 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:27.520 it's uh eating, get away from people, and it's kind 0:11:27.520 --> 0:11:32.559 of nice. It's quiet, hum and there's lots of wildlife, 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.640 lots of good opportunities to get out, even if you're 0:11:35.679 --> 0:11:38.000 not like in hunting fishing, if you just you know, 0:11:38.080 --> 0:11:40.720 you want to hike, you know, it's a qualmenton falls 0:11:40.880 --> 0:11:44.000 is right here pictured rocks. I mean, there's a lot 0:11:44.040 --> 0:11:47.960 of good seeing sight to go, you know, to go 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:50.240 and look at Yeah, and I did up here what 0:11:50.280 --> 0:11:53.400 would have been almost like unimaginable where we grew up hunting. 0:11:53.600 --> 0:11:56.920 Is as soon as I moved up here, I got 0:11:57.559 --> 0:12:00.880 one day, I got too deer with my bow. And 0:12:01.040 --> 0:12:07.120 one day which should have taken three years, taken three 0:12:07.200 --> 0:12:09.760 years in some of the ground we used to hunting, 0:12:10.200 --> 0:12:14.120 you know down below. Yeah, it's the deer hunts definitely 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:17.280 not what it used to be, that's what I've heard. 0:12:18.679 --> 0:12:21.520 But our our wolf population is getting pretty big. I 0:12:21.559 --> 0:12:25.440 remember cutting my first wolf track up here, um and 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:29.840 being very surprised by it. Yeah you know, but now yeah, 0:12:30.040 --> 0:12:31.960 but in those days, it was like thirty five what 0:12:31.960 --> 0:12:33.959 do they talked about, like thirty five deer per square 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:36.920 miles and stuff. Man, just it was unbelievable, and the 0:12:36.960 --> 0:12:39.720 bad winnard coming. They'd be like yarded up and starved 0:12:39.760 --> 0:12:42.520 to death everywhere, and it was wild. Yeah, yeah, we've 0:12:42.559 --> 0:12:45.080 got you know, obviously we ran all the bear baits 0:12:45.320 --> 0:12:48.880 and uh, it wasn't uncommon that at least one of 0:12:48.880 --> 0:12:51.880 your baits every night had wolves on it. Yeah, and 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.520 we have pictures like three four wolves and one trail 0:12:54.559 --> 0:12:59.040 camp picture on your baits and they'll they'll rip them 0:12:59.120 --> 0:13:01.320 right open, move all the logs right out of the way, 0:13:01.360 --> 0:13:05.640 and oh yeah, they'll run the bear right off. Huh. 0:13:05.800 --> 0:13:08.920 That's interesting. Sucks for us. But you don't do any 0:13:08.960 --> 0:13:14.600 fur trapping to you. I do not. Um. The buddy 0:13:14.679 --> 0:13:18.000 mine that owns the company, his name is John ron Um. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:24.240 What's his name, John ron huh um enough, uh, yeah, 0:13:24.520 --> 0:13:26.600 that's like a weird thing, Like it's not his fault, man, 0:13:27.240 --> 0:13:29.280 it's a weird thing parents do now and then you know, 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:33.640 therefore I think of Jonathan Ron. Yeah, I don't know. 0:13:33.720 --> 0:13:36.640 I don't know if his full name is longer. I 0:13:36.679 --> 0:13:40.000 know his dad is also John Ron, So he's like 0:13:40.080 --> 0:13:43.800 Ron John Shirts surf shop. Right, He's he's a junior, 0:13:44.480 --> 0:13:48.320 but his company is you Per Outdoors nine oh SIPs 0:13:48.920 --> 0:13:52.560 and he does his big things bears, but he does 0:13:52.640 --> 0:13:59.120 he actually takes uh trapping clients and basically the clients 0:13:59.120 --> 0:14:00.800 will come in and try up with him and like 0:14:00.920 --> 0:14:03.720 run the line with him, and then they get to 0:14:03.760 --> 0:14:05.920 kind of see how it's done and like the ins 0:14:05.960 --> 0:14:08.360 and outs of it because they're because they're doing like 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.360 a class, they want to learn it or they want 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:16.520 to experience it both. And then, um, so they try 0:14:16.600 --> 0:14:18.439 to see how it's done, you know, what to look for, 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:23.040 how to do it, um, and then hopefully they get 0:14:23.120 --> 0:14:26.120 something and then um, he'll take te him you know, 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:28.520 tannent and everything. And then they did to take the 0:14:29.120 --> 0:14:32.440 belt back with him. Yeah, so he's just trying to 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:35.960 get into that. And then he just got his captain's license. Um, 0:14:36.040 --> 0:14:39.160 so he's running started next year, he's going to start 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:43.240 doing uh late trout j in on late Superior and 0:14:43.280 --> 0:14:46.840 then uh Walleye trips as well. Real go get her. Yeah, 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:49.680 he's he's really good, dude. When I took when I 0:14:49.720 --> 0:14:52.200 was in high school, you'll know this name because of 0:14:52.200 --> 0:14:54.680 where you're from. When I was in high school, I 0:14:54.760 --> 0:14:58.160 took a day of trapping lessons for two and fifty 0:14:58.160 --> 0:15:02.400 bucks from Mark June, who when for prices plummeted, he 0:15:02.440 --> 0:15:04.160 became like a big deer guy, like a big white 0:15:04.160 --> 0:15:07.200 tail started doing like white tail products and all that. 0:15:07.240 --> 0:15:11.040 You know that name Sean Yep. Yeah, day at trapping lessons. 0:15:11.440 --> 0:15:14.720 M I I personally have never relayed on it, but 0:15:15.000 --> 0:15:17.320 I know it's it's been around here. I was gonna 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:20.880 ask you if you're allowed because back in the old days, 0:15:20.920 --> 0:15:23.480 you were allowed two river rotters here per year, and 0:15:23.480 --> 0:15:25.600 you're only allowed one river otter per year in the 0:15:25.640 --> 0:15:28.960 southern part of the the the northern half of the 0:15:29.000 --> 0:15:31.920 southern part of the state. So it's cool because you 0:15:31.920 --> 0:15:34.280 can catch two up here. Yeah. I don't know if 0:15:34.320 --> 0:15:38.760 it's still too or if it's down to one, but oh, 0:15:38.880 --> 0:15:41.240 SHAWNA wanna returned to something. Yeah, this is your second 0:15:41.240 --> 0:15:43.320 time on the show. Second time. The first time you 0:15:43.320 --> 0:15:45.080 were on the show, we were with your friend who 0:15:45.080 --> 0:15:48.080 blew his toes off with Danny to toe Morrison who 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:51.760 blew his toes off in a layout blind. And what's 0:15:51.760 --> 0:15:54.520 funny about this is yesterday we were hunting and layout 0:15:54.560 --> 0:15:59.120 boats and I, at first I was trying to figure out, 0:15:59.200 --> 0:16:03.720 like where I wanted a shotgun delay. Um, I thought 0:16:03.720 --> 0:16:08.720 about your friend blowing his toes off, layoff, aware of like, 0:16:08.800 --> 0:16:11.560 all of a sudden I should not put Then I 0:16:11.640 --> 0:16:14.200 put it together that you would not only blow your 0:16:14.200 --> 0:16:17.080 toes off in a layout boat, but you would then sink. 0:16:19.520 --> 0:16:22.040 And so then I was like, oh, that's why one 0:16:22.080 --> 0:16:29.280 would never ever third barrel inside the boat. It'll be 0:16:29.320 --> 0:16:35.040 bad news. Yeah. In thirty five water joined also by 0:16:35.560 --> 0:16:39.240 our very own sitting here the first person to ever 0:16:39.920 --> 0:16:45.640 uh be on this show. In birken Stocks, Robert Stocks 0:16:45.920 --> 0:16:50.840 introduceself Max. My name is Max Barta, and um, I'm 0:16:51.000 --> 0:16:56.600 a camera guy. Are those actual burken stocks? Do you? Um? 0:16:57.200 --> 0:17:00.400 Do you tend to side with the like? Do you 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:03.160 have a lot of conspiracy theories? Do you think kem 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:09.199 like our cam trails and stuff like that? You just 0:17:09.280 --> 0:17:13.760 like them. They're comfy, They're like crocs but more fashionable. 0:17:14.280 --> 0:17:21.840 Is that right, listen? I have Yeah, I like him. 0:17:21.840 --> 0:17:25.199 I'm not down on him. I think it's great. Have 0:17:25.280 --> 0:17:27.840 you tried them before? No? I never have. Kind of 0:17:28.200 --> 0:17:31.560 what's that you can put them on for a while 0:17:31.560 --> 0:17:34.800 to day. If I put them on, I start going 0:17:34.880 --> 0:17:39.760 right on, right on. You don't know what's working. You're like, 0:17:39.840 --> 0:17:45.119 so your longtime production partners with Sean um it's been 0:17:45.160 --> 0:17:49.280 about I think this is our fifth year working together. Sex. Yeah, 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.879 working together, So you don't you don't you know what 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.560 you need to realize. One thing I like about Sean, 0:17:55.640 --> 0:17:58.439 and it makes me like about you, is how loyal 0:17:58.480 --> 0:18:02.359 Sean is. Yeah, we didn't know each other, but when 0:18:02.359 --> 0:18:04.560 we're trying to get Sean to come work for us, 0:18:05.119 --> 0:18:09.280 Sean was like, there's just only one way this will happen, 0:18:10.240 --> 0:18:12.360 and that it's Max comes to to the point where 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:16.160 he legitimately would have not come work for us, who 0:18:16.200 --> 0:18:19.760 always asked? I definitely. So I was either like, either 0:18:19.840 --> 0:18:23.000 Sean is the most loyal dude on the planet or 0:18:23.160 --> 0:18:27.080 Max is the greatest dude on the planet. But either way, 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:30.160 either way it seems like a win, right yeah, No, 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:33.120 I mean, Sean, I have been working together, like we 0:18:33.160 --> 0:18:37.120 said about for six years, and we found out right 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:40.080 away what worked and what didn't. We just stuck with it. 0:18:40.160 --> 0:18:44.000 So and you guys have done the you guys have 0:18:44.040 --> 0:18:47.520 done a lot of the waterfowl work together, but also 0:18:47.560 --> 0:18:52.400 predator stuff. Yeah, we've been chasing fur and feathers for 0:18:52.440 --> 0:18:54.280 a long time. Is that the main is that the 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:57.639 main thing you guys work on though, Yeah, you know, 0:18:58.080 --> 0:19:01.399 part of like working with Max and me wanting to 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:06.280 have Max come along is there's few not a lot 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:11.359 of people can handle the road time of traveling chasing ducks, 0:19:11.640 --> 0:19:14.680 and like we've been on the road for two and 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:18.879 a half weeks now, there's not a whole lot of 0:19:19.040 --> 0:19:21.960 production people that, like, I want to be on the 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.560 road chasing ducks for two and a half weeks. I 0:19:24.600 --> 0:19:28.920 think they think they do right until it happens. You 0:19:28.960 --> 0:19:32.320 guys ever getting big, huge fights. Oh there's arguments here 0:19:32.359 --> 0:19:37.800 and there preview one for me, I don't I don't know. 0:19:38.040 --> 0:19:44.159 Max broke my tailgate. Hits my tailgate, you know you 0:19:44.200 --> 0:19:48.680 could tell he was pretty upset. No, it's just like, yeah, 0:19:48.680 --> 0:19:52.040 it was just like I didn't break that tailgate handle. 0:19:52.160 --> 0:19:57.560 You broke that tailgate handle. I think it broke itself. Sean, 0:19:58.480 --> 0:20:01.200 lay out what we're working on here. We're working on 0:20:01.680 --> 0:20:06.240 a new show called Duck Lore. We're in Michigan hunting ducks, 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:11.359 hunting divers on the Big Water, and we're putting together 0:20:11.400 --> 0:20:15.240 a whole new waterfowl series and Shawn's at the helm. 0:20:15.280 --> 0:20:18.160 At the Helm, you get to see him every single time. 0:20:19.800 --> 0:20:23.200 We're covering all kinds of different ducks, different places, really 0:20:23.720 --> 0:20:29.240 gathering the waterfowl experience across the whole range of places. 0:20:29.760 --> 0:20:33.159 Started in Texas. Now we're all the way up here 0:20:33.200 --> 0:20:36.080 in Michigan, which seems backwards for the migration. Yeah, we're 0:20:36.080 --> 0:20:39.600 did you stop along the way um North Dakota and Nebraska, 0:20:39.920 --> 0:20:42.640 so we're on trip four. Then you're gonna head west 0:20:42.640 --> 0:20:45.960 from here. We're gonna talk more. We'll talk more about 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:49.800 that in a minute, but a couple of updates. The 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.600 House of bodities. So the auction House of Bodies run 0:20:52.640 --> 0:20:56.440 to group three. Now, well, when you're listening to this, 0:20:57.160 --> 0:20:58.920 run a group three. We're a couple of days ahead 0:20:58.920 --> 0:21:01.600 of the schedule here because right now we got what 0:21:01.760 --> 0:21:03.880 kind of how do hell do you say, Daniel's dog. 0:21:04.000 --> 0:21:06.040 We always been calling it a drop or something just 0:21:06.280 --> 0:21:10.399 for short, I'm the wrong guy to ask the dogs 0:21:10.480 --> 0:21:13.360 kicking ass on the auction house, what's it sitting at. 0:21:14.440 --> 0:21:19.240 It's currently it's sitting at like it's a good puppy. 0:21:19.280 --> 0:21:22.359 But you know what, they have four pups. So the 0:21:22.359 --> 0:21:25.560 way it's gonna work is the winning bidder works with 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:28.240 the breeder to select which dog is back like what 0:21:28.440 --> 0:21:34.200 they want to Uh. Basically, male female will pick on 0:21:34.240 --> 0:21:37.200 the litter from their perspective, they get to pick because 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.119 there's four different dogs. So the breeder will work with 0:21:39.119 --> 0:21:40.439 you to find out what you want. Because someone might 0:21:40.440 --> 0:21:44.640 want a male, they want a female, whatever the hell? Uh. Anyways, 0:21:44.680 --> 0:21:48.399 Group three is now launched. We have a so we 0:21:48.480 --> 0:21:51.520 got a lot of cool friends. We have a signed 0:21:52.000 --> 0:21:58.720 Pittsburgh Steelers jersey from Steelers linebacker Joe Schobert. He donated 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:00.720 his football jersey to the All Action House. Got a 0:22:00.760 --> 0:22:04.199 bunch of teammates to sign it. That's pretty cool, including 0:22:04.520 --> 0:22:10.119 the quarterback Ben Roethlisberger and T J. Watt, Joe Hayden. 0:22:10.800 --> 0:22:13.960 There's a bunch of good names on there. Makea Fitzpatrick, 0:22:14.200 --> 0:22:21.359 Chase Claywood, Devin Bush, Cam Hayward, ju Ju Smith, Schustern, G. Harris. Anyways, 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:24.479 all these fellers signed this jersey, and this signed jersey 0:22:24.560 --> 0:22:27.320 is up in group three, so all the signatures on it. 0:22:27.600 --> 0:22:30.440 We got a hand forged carbon knife donated by Cal 0:22:31.720 --> 0:22:37.080 but made by Riley Kirkpatrick Forge and Sheridan Oregon. It 0:22:37.160 --> 0:22:39.160 was Cal was supposed to use it for special occasions, 0:22:39.200 --> 0:22:40.960 but he doesn't he according to Cal, he doesn't have 0:22:41.040 --> 0:22:45.800 a nice enough special occasions. It's more beautiful than uh, 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:48.640 something he should own, So it's going up on there. 0:22:48.640 --> 0:22:52.840 It's meant for carving large chunks of meat. This is 0:22:52.920 --> 0:22:54.680 other thing that's kind of this crazy set of things. 0:22:54.680 --> 0:23:02.120 There's artist David Burgess. Burgess he uh he made these 0:23:02.200 --> 0:23:06.639 mugs that have everybody's ugly as mug on him. So 0:23:06.760 --> 0:23:09.320 there's a cow mug, Yanni mugg. There's even like a 0:23:09.359 --> 0:23:12.160 dirk and mug as a naval captain. All the people's 0:23:12.200 --> 0:23:14.280 mugs are on the set of mugs. No one in 0:23:14.320 --> 0:23:16.800 the world has a set. This is like not a thing. 0:23:17.359 --> 0:23:19.560 These are like one offs. You can get the whole 0:23:19.560 --> 0:23:24.760 set of ugly mugs by Dave Spencer. Now everybody knows 0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:31.760 that Spencer Newharst, big Rockhound Spencer. His wife Shelby took 0:23:32.480 --> 0:23:35.320 There's ship Spencer's always finding out in the woods and 0:23:35.440 --> 0:23:41.680 made a custom petrified wood necklace, Montana moss egg At 0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:45.200 hoop earrings, and a pair of Montana moss egg it 0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:50.199 stud earrings, all being auctioned as a collection for that 0:23:50.320 --> 0:23:55.200 special someone in your life. We also have framed original 0:23:55.400 --> 0:23:58.760 art by one of my favorite wildlife artists, Jamie Carmody. 0:23:59.720 --> 0:24:02.080 Oh she does like you should go look on her 0:24:02.480 --> 0:24:07.320 phil pull up her Instagram deal. It's unbelievable her work. 0:24:08.320 --> 0:24:10.400 I was trying to get her. She she didn't want him, 0:24:10.440 --> 0:24:12.040