Speaker 1: In today's episode of The Command Center Podcast, we are
Speaker 1: previewing the La Rams, Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford, all those guys.
Speaker 2: Are they overrated? I don't think so. We'll find out.
Speaker 1: Then we've got the Academy Awards coming up, and it's
Speaker 1: so important to make sure you got the best actor
Speaker 1: in the part.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 3: You can't do.
Speaker 2: Training day with me. It's didn't do training day with
Speaker 2: our Cineo hall.
Speaker 1: Yes, we're talking about who on our team are you got.
Speaker 2: To fill those roles?
Speaker 1: And then we got the gravity of Taylor Swift is
Speaker 1: just pulling us in like a planet into the sun.
Speaker 2: We can't escape it.
Speaker 1: We're talking about Taylor Swift with a piano and a
Speaker 1: special our special guest producer Matty Welcome to the Command
Speaker 1: Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson, here, Santana Moss and Fred Smoot,
Speaker 1: and we've got some big news in the Fred Smooth.
Speaker 1: It's big, yeah, big news.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Your daughter, Yes, she did? What did she do?
Speaker 2: She went for forty one?
Speaker 1: She plays basketball. Tell the people they don't know.
Speaker 3: My daughter, tenth grader here in northern Virginia went for
Speaker 3: forty one. We had we had a bet, we had
Speaker 3: a bet for two hundred and fifty dollars. So she
Speaker 3: beat me for two hundred and fifty dollars right before Christmas,
Speaker 3: and she still won her gifts, but she went for
Speaker 3: forty one and three quarters.
Speaker 2: I have to give her a round up.
Speaker 1: Well, for now, was the team that they were was
Speaker 1: the team they were playing good?
Speaker 3: No, the team they were playing were pretty good. But
Speaker 3: my daughter's pretty good at basketball?
Speaker 1: Bro, where did she get that from? Now?
Speaker 2: For me, I'm an.
Speaker 3: Ex basketball player, come up log one. Not always built
Speaker 3: like a basketball player. I was never built like a
Speaker 3: football player.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm with you, but I'm saying like, I
Speaker 1: can't imagine you hooping.
Speaker 3: Well, if you want to imagine me hooping, closed your
Speaker 3: eyes and think of a mixture the athletic ability of
Speaker 3: a Wessel Westbrook and the shooting ability of Steph Curry.
Speaker 2: They caught me. Russell Curry, that's pretty good, man.
Speaker 1: I feel like you should have been playing basketball in
Speaker 1: the NBA.
Speaker 3: That because I felt like, what, You're gonna be a
Speaker 3: six feet coner, a six foot park on, I'm gonna
Speaker 3: be a six foot coner.
Speaker 2: So can we Jason? I got a question real quick?
Speaker 1: Can we get like a like you know, like how
Speaker 1: he ran the forty that one time. Yeah, can we
Speaker 1: get out and maybe get Fred shoot in the basketball
Speaker 1: a little bit sore?
Speaker 2: That's easy. So you want to do well like Horse? Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like Horse or something. Yeah, Oh that's easy.
Speaker 3: I win Meal three six dunks, Shoot from the free
Speaker 3: throw line, shoot from the half court in boys, say
Speaker 3: win Fred.
Speaker 1: You can't even you can't even walk down here without limping.
Speaker 2: You're gonna boy boy. Yeah, so you're so you But
Speaker 2: you're just saying that you're you're a shooter.
Speaker 3: No, I'm an athlete talking Restbrook in there. I can
Speaker 3: attack the basket and play defense like Westbrook. I can
Speaker 3: shoot and handle the ball like Steph Kurkil or where.
Speaker 2: You were playing playing when you were younger. Oh listen,
Speaker 2: are you comparing yourself the guys that came up after
Speaker 2: you know? Because if that's the case, I like Reggie Miller.
Speaker 2: Actually the Reggie Miller.
Speaker 3: I asked the guys at the Lifetime GM while average
Speaker 3: a staggering twenty nine seven and seventes.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, dude, this man cannot stop hyping himself up.
Speaker 1: Just compare yourself to Reggie Miller. Maybe the best shooter
Speaker 1: of all time. Yeah, and then you said, let's go
Speaker 1: down to Lifetime Fitness.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm part of Lifetime Fitness, where I averaged twenty
Speaker 3: nine seven and seven.
Speaker 2: Has its keeping stats on the pick up. I know
Speaker 2: we had a we had a hoop down here in
Speaker 2: our little basement here at the facility with the ball
Speaker 2: in hand always.
Speaker 1: So I can't get that work out time fitness or
Speaker 1: like guys like.
Speaker 3: Me rolling friend's like, yeah, I'm a baller and it's
Speaker 3: like filling.
Speaker 2: This guy can't even walk. No, that become my feet hurt.
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. So you're gonna go play basketball.
Speaker 3: That's why my feet hurt because I played basketball out
Speaker 3: of time after the New Year.
Speaker 2: That's what That's what I do in my car. I
Speaker 2: just want to see him run around a little bit.
Speaker 3: I've been saying that's what I do for my cardio
Speaker 3: is basketball, because I think basketball is the best cardio
Speaker 3: because you're not thinking, you just running.
Speaker 1: I'm with you.
Speaker 2: Do you think it should be like a one on
Speaker 2: one you've ever hed? Or I kill Logan?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Logan did not get a basketball friend, but I will.
Speaker 1: I'm a big body.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can be backing down.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and Fred, you don't know this about me. You
Speaker 1: don't know this about me. God, I hope we do this.
Speaker 1: I will play so hard, like if we're gonna want to.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna have I'm gonna have a sweatband.
Speaker 1: On, probably some respects, maybe a face guard of some
Speaker 1: kind for it, just because.
Speaker 2: My face is gonna be smashing. I'm gonna like the twelve.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be diving for putting, putting, closing the barn
Speaker 1: door after the voice.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be diving for rebounds.
Speaker 1: You haven't got a chance.
Speaker 2: Oh, we'll do it. We'll do it in anywhere. We'll
Speaker 2: do a one on one and game.
Speaker 1: What have we playing?
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Speaker 2: What are you doing? They don't Madden? Actually ashing threes?
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Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 1: Ten?
Speaker 2: He didn't do his little harm start first time. He
Speaker 2: did it without me having to say something bad about it.
Speaker 2: You know what? Kind of like Igar Allen Poe when
Speaker 2: it comes to reading my GUYO, what do you know?
Speaker 2: But I don't know what? Who don't know? That's what?
Speaker 2: Since I named the raven, I know what?
Speaker 1: Is a poem written by Egar Allen Poe, can you
Speaker 1: name one? Oh?
Speaker 2: Yes I can. Oh you say smooth, so you can't
Speaker 2: name one egg. I'm just not gonna let you put
Speaker 2: me to the test like.
Speaker 1: I'm surprised you didn't make you did make something up
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Speaker 1: Seventy five or older didn't know.
Speaker 2: I mean, I feel like you know obviously, would you
Speaker 2: know what?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: The raven Leonora even was just the I don't say.
Speaker 3: One to say, but you didn't say it because I'm
Speaker 3: not gonna play up to you, like I'm not gonna
Speaker 3: play down to you because everything that I say out
Speaker 3: of my mouth you fetch.
Speaker 2: So I just don't.
Speaker 1: If you had said the raven, there's nothing in fact
Speaker 1: check because that's when that's right, that's a correct poem. Right, Well,
Speaker 1: we didn't say the raven.
Speaker 2: Huh. The raven was the obvious easy choice. I just
Speaker 2: said the ravens are named after all right, Yes I did.
Speaker 2: And you not know everything I know, you know a
Speaker 2: lot of stuff.
Speaker 1: Point six all right, Well I know Fred knows a
Speaker 1: lot about there's a lot about everything. So let's talk
Speaker 1: about this uh L a RAMS team. And so where
Speaker 1: do we want to start? Do we want to start
Speaker 1: on offense? Defense?
Speaker 2: Should?
Speaker 3: I think we started with the two eight eight picks predidence,
Speaker 3: and that's Matthew Stafford the head of the offense. And
Speaker 3: we already know on defense who gets the thing done.
Speaker 3: But when we talk about Metrow Stafford, I think over underrated.
Speaker 3: I think underappreciated. I think heavily skilled. I think pre
Speaker 3: snap reads our top in the NFL. I think the
Speaker 3: touch on the ball, nobody else throws at the ball.
Speaker 3: I just think I think people got Methew Stafford exhaust
Speaker 3: You know how somebody like don't appreciate you because they like, Okay,
Speaker 3: he won the Super Bowl, he did this, Okay, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3: He just he one of those players any given week
Speaker 3: he can show up on the feeling be in a
Speaker 3: given team.
Speaker 2: Yeah. You know the thing I hate about the whole
Speaker 2: I guess the perception of Matthew Stafford. They look at
Speaker 2: his first ten years of his career and say, oh,
Speaker 2: he played for Detroit, so he wasn't that good. But
Speaker 2: through that those ten years he had Megatron and they
Speaker 2: feel like, oh, Mega Tron made them better. Well, when
Speaker 2: you have a guy that tall and that big and
Speaker 2: that bites that that dynamic, you should be good as
Speaker 2: a quarterback because all you have to do is throw
Speaker 2: it up to him. But not only did he play
Speaker 2: well with Megatron, he also played well with the guy
Speaker 2: we talked about the team. It's not even just him.
Speaker 2: Even the other guys that was on other teams, other
Speaker 2: wide receivers that that came over to Detroit, had a
Speaker 2: chance to go out there and be dominant under his
Speaker 2: you know, being a quarterback. So when I saw him
Speaker 2: get traded and however that thing transpired with him getting
Speaker 2: to LA I knew it was going to be something.
Speaker 2: I didn't know it was going to lead into a
Speaker 2: super Bowl. But that's what the great Sean McVay needed.
Speaker 2: You know. You talk about this Dolphins team that we
Speaker 2: just faced a couple of weeks ago, and you saw
Speaker 2: how they take advantage of getting leveraged and finding the
Speaker 2: right matchup, except with seanvaye from the same tree, from
Speaker 2: the same tree. So when you put a quarterback a
Speaker 2: great quarterback, people don't give them credit for being great.
Speaker 2: But if you put a great quarterback that has the
Speaker 2: arm talent that Matthew Stafford has. You give them weapons,
Speaker 2: you give them guys that you look at and say, well,
Speaker 2: it might be the system because these guys are not
Speaker 2: top tier in your head because they don't have the speed,
Speaker 2: they don't have the same kind of you know, athletic ability.
Speaker 2: But these guys going out there being productive when you
Speaker 2: put them in a system like that, you say, well,
Speaker 2: it gots to be the system. But I think it's
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford because we've seen the other guys play in
Speaker 2: the same system and they didn't have the same production,
Speaker 2: they didn't have the same you know, win win percentage,
Speaker 2: and they didn't have the same stat line. So I'm
Speaker 2: a guy. As a I watched a lot of quarterbacks. Hey,
Speaker 2: you can't tell me nothing wrong about Matthew Steffan, But
Speaker 2: think about it, is I feel like he's the Rottney
Speaker 2: danger Field of quarterback.
Speaker 1: Don't get no respect, getting no respect.
Speaker 3: I didn't think about it is he was traded for
Speaker 3: the other Rotteney danger field, Jared Golf gets no respect.
Speaker 3: Like Jared Golf is a bawler like you to say
Speaker 3: what you want to, but don't they feel like the
Speaker 3: same guy.
Speaker 2: I want to about it though, some guys play better
Speaker 2: under lights than some guy. Don't you think golf wasn't
Speaker 2: for the lights? Yeah, you just want to play football.
Speaker 2: I want to play football now. Matt he's a light guy.
Speaker 2: He got it when the lights on. He went to Georgia.
Speaker 2: He ready to go. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think like when you look at Matthew Stafford,
Speaker 1: I think, Tanny, you bring up a million great points there,
Speaker 1: Like he is what Sean thought he needed at the position.
Speaker 1: And so when you said, like Fred, you mentioned this
Speaker 1: a lot of pre snap reads, checking at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage, pre identifying coverages. He is a smart football
Speaker 1: player that can make any throw. Like it's some of
Speaker 1: the throws we were watching this stay in that cut
Speaker 1: up believe it was like you can just do whatever.
Speaker 1: And so it's interesting to watch you mentioned Mike McDaniels, Tanna,
Speaker 1: and watch Sean and then watch Kyle, and it's interesting
Speaker 1: how each offense looks a little bit different. This offense
Speaker 1: here in LA is so quarterback centric. They're allowing him
Speaker 1: to do so much at the line of scrimmage. They're
Speaker 1: allowing him to do so much in terms of throwing
Speaker 1: guys open, making tough reads, and the offense has been
Speaker 1: built to accommodate him, and I think that's what makes
Speaker 1: him special. Like we were watching again that Baltimore game.
Speaker 1: There's that play where we break it down this week
Speaker 1: on the Command Center show. So it makes you, guys
Speaker 1: check that out. But you know, watching him in that
Speaker 1: goal line situation waits out, Yeah, where they motion, he
Speaker 1: identifies the coverage they don't. Baltimore doesn't give the coverage
Speaker 1: away now I don't. He checks the play right a
Speaker 1: short motion. They get good leverage for Cooper Cup. Like
Speaker 1: Tanna is talking about. Tanna's running a corner on a
Speaker 1: safety and then there's a free runner. He takes a
Speaker 1: step back, throwing off his back foot, puts a little
Speaker 1: air on it, and I think, like when you watch
Speaker 1: their games, so I watched three games this week, that
Speaker 1: is such a defining characteristic of how their success. It's
Speaker 1: Matt Stafford balling, not just balling, throwing, but like at
Speaker 1: the line of Scrimma identifying we're checking the play. I'm
Speaker 1: getting the right thing and I know what's happening. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna deliver an excellent throw and make a huge place.
Speaker 1: So he is for sure a huge element I think. Like, so,
Speaker 1: let's kind of flip this kind of put a little
Speaker 1: focus on the commanders here. How do you handle that? Fred?
Speaker 1: And you mentioned this, you talked a little bit that's
Speaker 1: in our production meeting earlier today, But like, how do
Speaker 1: you for the viewers, how do you handle what he
Speaker 1: does so well?
Speaker 3: Well, to think about it is think about him. He's
Speaker 3: a pocket passer. He's the last generation pocket passer. Now
Speaker 3: ab I mean A and B gat precious, Like, if
Speaker 3: you're going to get to Stafford's not gonna be with
Speaker 3: the defense men.
Speaker 2: I hate to tell you that. Not the way that
Speaker 2: he chicks things.
Speaker 3: Not the way that he recognized man coverage, not the
Speaker 3: way that he recognized blitz. He gonna throw to the
Speaker 3: south spot. He knows where to go with the ball.
Speaker 3: The only way to make him off is to get
Speaker 3: him off his spot and make him move. When he
Speaker 3: starts to move, now the completion has become a little
Speaker 3: bit harder, and he's a little bit more more inaccurate
Speaker 3: than he is when he's sending in the pockets. So
Speaker 3: this is a run pain John Allen type game, not
Speaker 3: a kJ Henry not a defensive end game. Now, I
Speaker 3: tell my defense ends in this game, get your hands up, like,
Speaker 3: because he's gonna let the ball go quick. So if
Speaker 3: we can knock down three four balls like, that's very
Speaker 3: significant to me.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think you mentioned up there that I
Speaker 1: think is interesting.
Speaker 2: He's thirty five, thirty four, the older guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but he had a play I think it was
Speaker 1: in It might have been against Cleveland where got a
Speaker 1: little pressure for Miles Garrett steps out, steps up and
Speaker 1: it's getting hit and his arm is just so so live. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and he can get it there. So got to be
Speaker 1: disciplined as a pastors for But I agree, and I
Speaker 1: think you said something else in the meeting and ten
Speaker 1: you can talk about this too. It's just disguising coverages
Speaker 1: a little bit, right, Yeah, don't let him get a
Speaker 1: beat on what you're doing. It's gonna be hard.
Speaker 3: I've been saying, how long can you hold it the
Speaker 3: disguise because he's going to peyton manning you.
Speaker 2: He's gonna hold his snap count.
Speaker 3: And that's what he does to keep the defensive line
Speaker 3: off ballots, changing the snap count. And that's the pre stuff,
Speaker 3: the pre snap stuff we was talking about. That's what
Speaker 3: separates quarterback. Is he gonna get loved from that from
Speaker 3: the regular person? No, But I football eyes, we see
Speaker 3: it all and that's what I think makes him great.
Speaker 3: And stopping him, I don't think it's a such thing
Speaker 3: as stopping him.
Speaker 2: Containing him.
Speaker 1: This is the thing and all everybody got to be
Speaker 1: on the same place.
Speaker 2: That has to be key, just trying to contain a guy.
Speaker 2: I'm scared for our secondary. I mean, honestly, you know
Speaker 2: when it comes to what we've seen the last what
Speaker 2: three or four weeks, you know, production wise, Now I
Speaker 2: would say this just seeing them play a little faster
Speaker 2: against the Dolphins and everybody look at that and say, oh,
Speaker 2: well you can't you know, know the Dophins just have
Speaker 2: a high powered offense that you know, it was a
Speaker 2: couple of mismatch here and there that we just go
Speaker 2: on anybody, you know, take advantage of. But if we
Speaker 2: can kind of play with that same energy. But it's
Speaker 2: just you know, we watched Tour a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: We played too, and we saw how he threw the spots. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like that scares you. What scares me about this guy?
Speaker 2: It's a better quarterback. Yeah, he trusts his strong and
Speaker 2: he had that almost what the guy played for the
Speaker 2: Chicago Bears Cutler, right, he has his kind of attitude. Yeah,
Speaker 2: when it comes to like we're gonna, I'm gonna, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm gonna throw this ball at you. I know what
Speaker 2: you're doing. I'm gonna throw this ball here. I trust
Speaker 2: my guys gonna be in that spot at the right time.
Speaker 2: So I'm scarming. You got a quarterback that knows no
Speaker 2: matter what pressure you bring, I'm gonna throw them enough
Speaker 2: air and throw it enough art. I'm gonna throw enough
Speaker 2: anticipation that by the time my guy gets his head around,
Speaker 2: the ball gonna be in him. I'm gonna give a
Speaker 2: ch So when I when I'm he talking about he
Speaker 2: watched three games, I ain't watch that many. I watched
Speaker 2: the live game last weekn and I watched a little
Speaker 2: bit of Cutters and I'm like, oh, look, if I've
Speaker 2: had this throughout my career, what could I mean? And
Speaker 2: nothing against the quarterbacks I've had, but just I'm saying
Speaker 2: I could just understand what these guys are going through
Speaker 2: as a receiver, just knowing that this is what I
Speaker 2: got and I get when I beat my guy the
Speaker 2: ball gonna beat it. I ain't gotta I ain't gotta
Speaker 2: worry about looking back waiting on the ball. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think that's a hundred percent right now.
Speaker 3: Well, if I can say anything, the one thing I
Speaker 3: can say compared to the Miami game that's gonna help
Speaker 3: out defensive backs. Their receivers don't have the speed Miami guy,
Speaker 3: so getting threatened to get pushed down the field. If
Speaker 3: I'm a dB, I want to play a little tighter coverage.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna slow my back pedal down, knowing that they
Speaker 3: want to beat me to spots.
Speaker 2: Pooking the cool and Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3: They are actually just but the carbon cofference up here.
Speaker 3: They will set you up though the runners.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying, the game is on another level.
Speaker 3: But what I'm saying, but with waddle and what's the
Speaker 3: name they speed, you gott to chase the like I
Speaker 3: don't have to chase these guys.
Speaker 2: I need to when they catch it, I need to
Speaker 2: get them on the ward. You say, I'm asking you
Speaker 2: because you defensive back when you're playing against a guy
Speaker 2: that you know he's very talented in one catching the
Speaker 2: ball but also running routes like do y'all say, Okay,
Speaker 2: I rather put a shell on him, already play a
Speaker 2: two under so I can, like, you know, just keep
Speaker 2: him in front of me or make sure that it's
Speaker 2: someone over the top, because I'm watching these guys run routes.
Speaker 2: Pooker might be a little more than Cup than Cup,
Speaker 2: but Cups so, I mean, he's just it's like one
Speaker 2: of those things where you almost watching Sean McVay run routes. Yeah,
Speaker 2: how he draw it up the way season he runs it,
Speaker 2: you understand, and when you ask him, man, he he
Speaker 2: spits it out that way, you know. I mean, like
Speaker 2: that's what he's sees it. It's almost like a quarterback
Speaker 2: that just knows how to run this route. So I'm
Speaker 2: running the route, I'm the quarterback, and he's seeing it
Speaker 2: from the quarterback eye. So Cooper Cups is so sharp,
Speaker 2: so dynamic, so smart. Man. It's it's it's almost like
Speaker 2: he's he don't have to be as fast as those
Speaker 2: guys in Miami. He's going to beat you regardless, you understand,
Speaker 2: Like he knows, oh, this is covered too, This is
Speaker 2: cover too, man, this is covered too under Like he
Speaker 2: knows where the hold is.
Speaker 3: That's why you want to not play as much zone
Speaker 3: on him. This is a team you can man up.
Speaker 3: Do you press this is this is a team that
Speaker 3: you can press. You can man up, and you say
Speaker 3: a mono mono, like, let's go play some football right here.
Speaker 3: They got better at they run game the last couple
Speaker 3: of weeks, so stopped you from playing two man.
Speaker 1: So I want to say this too, and we saw
Speaker 1: this in the clip the other day. They are the
Speaker 1: number one team in the NFL when they line up
Speaker 1: in a bunch of alignments, they do it more.
Speaker 2: Than anybody else. And that forced you to play some
Speaker 2: home And.
Speaker 1: That's what I was gonna say. They know, they're smart,
Speaker 1: they know what they're getting over there. They know what
Speaker 1: their guys do really well. And they getting bunches a lot.
Speaker 1: And we saw how many times we watched probably three
Speaker 1: or four clips yesterday in that Baltimore game. I'm getting
Speaker 1: the type bunch and I'm doing some type of motion
Speaker 1: from the bunch and guys just dropping people in coverage.
Speaker 3: Hey, that's what it is, because once the guy moves.
Speaker 3: And when we're seeing a lot of this year that
Speaker 3: I haven't seen is we've seen bunch, but we've seen
Speaker 3: them move.
Speaker 2: The inside guy, move him out.
Speaker 3: That's different, like we're used to maybe the outside guy
Speaker 3: coming into the bunch. Yeah, but the guy, the inside
Speaker 3: guy going out now the corner is looking at the
Speaker 3: back of like, are you following them out?
Speaker 2: Do I need to push? And this split second indecisiveness
Speaker 2: they're attacking you.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I think that's one hundred percent right. And
Speaker 1: so yeah, I think having a plan for those bunches
Speaker 1: because they do a lot of them, they lot of
Speaker 1: exposive plays out of it. And uh and I think
Speaker 1: that to your point, Fred, I think, yeah, you go.
Speaker 1: I think about Benjamin Saint Jude smashing up with Cooper
Speaker 1: Cup and if it's just straight press situation, I'm like,
Speaker 1: I actually don't hate that match up. I don't hate
Speaker 1: it because I think Saint ju is strong, physical, but
Speaker 1: they know where the deficiencies are. And the other guy
Speaker 1: I want to talk about real quick is Pooka to
Speaker 1: Coo A man I want, I got, I gotta get
Speaker 1: myself a pooko to.
Speaker 2: Cool at Jersey.
Speaker 1: I you love that guy, you love I love watching
Speaker 1: film of him, Tanna, because he is a like he's
Speaker 1: a physical, competitive son of a gun that it makes
Speaker 1: excellent contested catches got a great deal.
Speaker 2: He blocked as well as he did. I did, god
Speaker 2: know his games. He's a little faster than this guy,
Speaker 2: but he has that edginess of hyades Ward like both
Speaker 2: of those guys like they like they want that, they
Speaker 2: want want it, you know what I mean. I did
Speaker 2: not see easy A McCaffrey sun most people. I kind
Speaker 2: of like that better actually see what I'm saying. And
Speaker 2: it had a glide to you. And when I watched Pooka,
Speaker 2: I'm like, is he moving fast? But he couldn't he moving.
Speaker 1: Grass I got an interesting story about him. So he
Speaker 1: did not run well at the Combine draft. Yeah he
Speaker 1: ran okay, right, but apparently like you know, they put
Speaker 1: the computer chip in the pads. Now all of that
Speaker 1: data coming out of that chip. He was like the
Speaker 1: number one guy for like acceleration deceleration. Yeah, top end
Speaker 1: speed was really good. So even though it did't show
Speaker 1: up in the forty and apparently.
Speaker 3: Everybody can't run forty yours in front of people. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I always tell people like this guy plays faster
Speaker 3: than that, Like right, what like you you can't run me?
Speaker 3: And Jared Wright similar in that way. You know, you
Speaker 3: know they say Jared Wright ran him Folk five forty,
Speaker 3: but I have never seen nobody.
Speaker 2: Kitchen from behind. He runs away from people.
Speaker 1: And that's like when you watch Pooka like he against Cleveland.
Speaker 1: Man they hit like like a little skinny post and
Speaker 1: I thought, man, this safety is gonna talk this boy down.
Speaker 2: No, he ain't. He ate that angle up. And so
Speaker 2: there is like he's tough.
Speaker 1: And there was a play against Baltimore where they had
Speaker 1: him like lead block like a fullback on us on
Speaker 1: Roquan Smith, and it wasn't like, oh my god, Rocant.
Speaker 1: It was like what's up, dude. I was like yeah,
Speaker 1: And then you got him running the post and out
Speaker 1: running safeties.
Speaker 2: So I he's a football player. I love that guy. Man.
Speaker 2: I think he's a good football player.
Speaker 1: He makes like he had a catch in the Baltimore
Speaker 1: game where he's diving, you know, he's got the tape
Speaker 1: on his fingers, you know, the whole thing. And I
Speaker 1: was like, I just got to respect that.
Speaker 2: Now, he's just a football you know. I get mad
Speaker 2: when I hear when I see guys like that on
Speaker 2: other teams. I'm like, who they have that? Just go
Speaker 2: out and say you know this is going to be
Speaker 2: a guy that it's gonna work like, because we always
Speaker 2: see we get the guys that like slated for that
Speaker 2: position or that that slot to go, Okay, let's get
Speaker 2: this number one guy because he's the number one guy
Speaker 2: on board and the production doesn't add up to you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. I'm not saying nothing about nobody
Speaker 2: on our team now, I'm saying we've gotten guys and
Speaker 2: you'd be like, man, he was the best guy for
Speaker 2: that position or the best guy at that that that pit,
Speaker 2: and why doesn't add up to this kind of you
Speaker 2: know place? So because Pooka got some James Thrash in him,
Speaker 2: like that, Oh he got that. That's what I say,
Speaker 2: easy in McCaffrey mixed with James Thrash.
Speaker 1: And I also think like like, I don't think they're
Speaker 1: you know, like uh, d Hall was like all those
Speaker 1: guys are they're products of this know what the Hall
Speaker 1: was trying to say.
Speaker 3: I think d Hall looked at the two players, looked
Speaker 3: at him and said, you know what with doubt, mad
Speaker 3: scientist McVeigh, if I take Cooper Cup and put Cooper
Speaker 3: Cup as a raven is he did production deductive and
Speaker 3: this and then I.
Speaker 2: Think you put Cooper Cup on our team.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think what de I was saying also is
Speaker 3: is a corner How much problems do I have with
Speaker 3: this guy in one on one since I don't think
Speaker 3: I personally that what he was saying, I would have
Speaker 3: problem always.
Speaker 2: A different kind of beast when you look at what
Speaker 2: his skill, talent, you know what, he was a receiver,
Speaker 2: playing corner back. He was, he was, he was phenomenal.
Speaker 2: But you know, I will say that you can say
Speaker 2: that by a lot of guys, know what I mean. Like,
Speaker 2: I've talked about this for years as a receiver. That's
Speaker 2: why I never get caught up in the hoop love
Speaker 2: who's that guy? Who's who's yes stats, give him, give
Speaker 2: him all the credit in the world. He did it.
Speaker 2: He had to go catch the passes, he had to
Speaker 2: go make the plays. But you can't just I guess
Speaker 2: you could say, be little another guy because he doesn't
Speaker 2: have the same amount of you know, or whatever it
Speaker 2: may be. Because the opportunities or the situation or the
Speaker 2: circumstances may be different. So when you have the circumstances
Speaker 2: you have, all we can do is give him the
Speaker 2: credit for what he's doing and that's all what it is.
Speaker 2: That's where he's slated, that's where he went, and that's
Speaker 2: what he's been doing his work at. So I give
Speaker 2: a guy the appreciation. I give him his praise because
Speaker 2: his fly was right doing it. Because you've seen other
Speaker 2: guys in that system has been productive. Hey, listen, you
Speaker 2: don't get.
Speaker 1: The trip of crown.
Speaker 3: Yeah, not being a good football player, like you don't
Speaker 3: lead in yours catches and touchdowns, being an average show.
Speaker 2: And we know it's beyond just being a skillful guy man,
Speaker 2: I mean about playing his game smart as everything, especially
Speaker 2: being a receiver man, like you can beat the guy,
Speaker 2: man the man. But it's very seldom that you see
Speaker 2: a guy that just finding the hold in the same
Speaker 2: workers on like we're workers on and just no when
Speaker 2: to sit down, no when to be on the same
Speaker 2: page with his quarterback. That takes time. That takes you know,
Speaker 2: sitting there watching film and going you know, being on
Speaker 2: the same same page.
Speaker 1: So and so I think they like to kind of
Speaker 1: just finish that thought, like obviously they are a system
Speaker 1: player a little bit right, because Sean knows how to
Speaker 1: maximize them. We all want to be system la but
Speaker 1: that doesn't detract from how good they are. That yeah, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: And you know it's funny. It's like how life comes
Speaker 1: from sugar. But I was talking to Sean one time
Speaker 1: and he was saying that, you know, there's only probably
Speaker 1: three guys on the team each team in the NFL
Speaker 1: that they can go anywhere. They can go anywhere, but
Speaker 1: everybody else is a system.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but that's what we We got challenged with that here,
Speaker 3: Like the burden of having seven different coaches is I
Speaker 3: got to learn seven different defenses. And guess what some
Speaker 3: I excelled in Greg Williams, mar Lewis, Mike Tumblin excelled
Speaker 3: in Great Blosh not.
Speaker 2: So much, you know what I'm saying, because I don't
Speaker 2: fit his system. So I think all of us the
Speaker 2: system players to some point.
Speaker 1: Right absolutely, So you know, let's talky about Sean real quick.
Speaker 2: I mean, what have you seen?
Speaker 1: You know, I know you haven't watched a ton of
Speaker 1: you said, you watch two games. What's a little bit
Speaker 1: of football? Wait, what have you seen? Hi? From the offense?
Speaker 1: What do you think that he brings? We talked a
Speaker 1: lot about what he like, the situation he puts Stafford
Speaker 1: in so this doesn't need to be super long, but.
Speaker 2: I compare because we can. We got to compare him
Speaker 2: from the tree that they're from, the Shanahan tree.
Speaker 3: So when I look at Shanahan in the forty nine ers,
Speaker 3: we talked you, you brought this up and said, not
Speaker 3: so quarterback dependent. Well, this one out of all of
Speaker 3: these guys is more quarterback dependent. So in Tanner brought
Speaker 3: it up. What he draws up, they literally mimick it.
Speaker 3: So if I could say any offense, you got to
Speaker 3: be disciplined. If we're not on the same page, we're
Speaker 3: going to get beat If we're not communicating on the back.
Speaker 2: End, they're going to beat us.
Speaker 3: The one thing I also watch with him is when
Speaker 3: they come when they going into the half and come
Speaker 3: back out, whenever you was doing their work, they got.
Speaker 2: Something for you.
Speaker 3: They do very well in coming back out and figuring
Speaker 3: out what you're doing well in how to attack it.
Speaker 2: You know, one of thing that's stayd up to me is,
Speaker 2: like you said, having a guy like Matthew Stafford changes everything.
Speaker 2: You know. You have a quarterback, a veteran quarterback that's
Speaker 2: seen a lot of ball, that's seen a lot of
Speaker 2: different defensive coverages and just just know how to you know,
Speaker 2: and not only just know how to beat you, you know,
Speaker 2: with just the scheme, like has all the tangibles, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Yes, Sean's just and he just
Speaker 2: in this wheelhouse. He's just dialing it up and he
Speaker 2: knows the guy's gonna he gonna see it. He's gonna
Speaker 2: be able to adjust, He's gonna be able to do
Speaker 2: some things. So I mean, getting back to what we
Speaker 2: talked about, how we're gonna slow him down or just
Speaker 2: you know, I guess you could say corrality, try to contain,
Speaker 2: try to contain them in a sense. It's gonna have
Speaker 2: to It's gonna have to be. How can we not
Speaker 2: only stop or curtain the quarterback, but defensively, how can
Speaker 2: we go back and forth? You know? I mean put
Speaker 2: a book with.
Speaker 1: The chance man.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and their coaches sometimes I think, you know, when
Speaker 2: you're in games like this, it's about the coaches, you know,
Speaker 2: more so than players the players going to play.
Speaker 3: So are you afraid that since met there was a
Speaker 3: coach on the field, Because we talked about that, who
Speaker 3: do we have to match his coaching on the field?
Speaker 2: Is I'm in a lineback and check when he needs to.
Speaker 1: And Cody's done a good job of that when he's
Speaker 1: been in. Now he did his play always and hasn't
Speaker 1: like I think he's playing much better the past couple
Speaker 1: of weeks.
Speaker 2: Earlier.
Speaker 1: The season is still figuring out, but he's always been
Speaker 1: good at getting people lined up and getting things away
Speaker 1: they're supposed to be. So the fact he's healthy, yeah,
Speaker 1: I think it's going to give the chance. I will
Speaker 1: say this. We were talking about their offense looks awesome,
Speaker 1: Like the good players look amazing. Stafford's playing awesome, Cooper
Speaker 1: cup nicoua awesome Williams for whatever, Yeah, for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: Though they hit these little spurts where they'll go three
Speaker 1: and out, like five consecutive drives or like three consecutive drives.
Speaker 1: So they do give you an opportunity offensively right because
Speaker 1: they are they're not while the good is really good.
Speaker 2: They getting these.
Speaker 3: Weird laws where it doesn't look they predicated big play offense.
Speaker 2: You make them patient. This the kryptonite.
Speaker 1: You make them.
Speaker 3: You gotta beat me by twelve plays. A ten play
Speaker 3: They're gonna have to be a ten plate drive if
Speaker 3: you're going to score they're.
Speaker 2: Not so well with that. Good in a ram zone,
Speaker 2: not good going.
Speaker 1: To length at the field. And I think the numbers,
Speaker 1: like Stafford's numbers support that, like all of his advanced
Speaker 1: analytics like big time throws EPA per play are off
Speaker 1: the charts, so like per throw is great, but they
Speaker 1: are in this situation where his total numbers, total yards,
Speaker 1: total touchdowns are just kind of blind. Yeah, And I think,
Speaker 1: and I don't know why, but they hit these moments
Speaker 1: where either he can't elevate, Sean can't call the right play,
Speaker 1: and the offense looks a little bit stuffed.
Speaker 2: And I think there's the line of scrimmage.
Speaker 1: That's the line.
Speaker 2: Don't forget.
Speaker 3: This team got made over after the Super Bowl after
Speaker 3: they said if those picks, and now they need those
Speaker 3: because when you lose with you lose a guy like well,
Speaker 3: that's the corner stone on your office of line. They
Speaker 3: have to build office lineback. They had to build a
Speaker 3: running backs back. And I think they just gathering themselves.
Speaker 3: I think they just getting to the point where they're like,
Speaker 3: all right, now we're gonna take that next step forward
Speaker 3: to try to get back to where we used to
Speaker 3: be at all.
Speaker 1: Right, real quick. Let's touch on the defense. There's one
Speaker 1: name we got to talk about. That's Aaron Donald. Everybody
Speaker 1: else on that defense is the middle lineback hall got
Speaker 1: his name forty second. It's playing pretty good, but everybody
Speaker 1: else is young. Yeah, I say, what kind of problems
Speaker 1: does Aaron Donald present?
Speaker 2: And how do we account for him?
Speaker 3: He's a minute to society. And when you got to
Speaker 3: minute to society, you gotta put him in prison. The
Speaker 3: only way you put him in prison is to get
Speaker 3: lost in and it's cosmic and whoever else the prison
Speaker 3: to lock this man up. And we've seen them do
Speaker 3: a lot of let's put him over here and let's
Speaker 3: bring the blitz from this side, so they're not just
Speaker 3: gonna let you gang up on him. They're gonna have
Speaker 3: an answer for the stuff that you do. But he's
Speaker 3: a one man rick and crew, let's just be honest.
Speaker 1: And he's not playing as well as he was two
Speaker 1: years ago. And we say that and he has five
Speaker 1: sets again, but like he's still like and that being said,
Speaker 1: we're talking about him going from maybe the most dominant
Speaker 1: player in NFL history to just like a really good player,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he's still top five.
Speaker 1: He's awesome, it's just not that level of Like I
Speaker 1: remember watching him when I was in San Francisco. This
Speaker 1: is seventeen and literally watching the film being like, I
Speaker 1: have not seen someone block him yet this entire game.
Speaker 1: And that's not an exaggeration. Yeah, no one could block him.
Speaker 1: Now you get in phases where you know it's he'll
Speaker 1: still win.
Speaker 3: And he's not the biggest guy. Like the one thing
Speaker 3: that he does is get skinny in the hole.
Speaker 1: And that linebacker's name was Ernest Jones, by the way,
Speaker 1: all right.
Speaker 3: And the only person I seen get skinny in the
Speaker 3: hole like he does when he's fighting deep as a
Speaker 3: live One SAP used to do it like One SAP
Speaker 3: used to turn his show, to turn his back and
Speaker 3: they couldn't block him. And it's getting up the field
Speaker 3: with two steps getting and they use they hands so well,
Speaker 3: then it's over with. And that's what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: if we lit the best thing with him is don't
Speaker 3: let him start fast. If he starts fast, it's over now.
Speaker 3: If you lean on him quarter after quarter. And I
Speaker 3: always say this about great pass rushes, you want him
Speaker 3: to stop pass rushing.
Speaker 2: Run at him. Yeah, run at.
Speaker 1: Exactly at That's the thing with him, He's so to
Speaker 1: your point, he's so slippery that you run at him
Speaker 1: and he skates the guy run away from him.
Speaker 2: He can chase it down.
Speaker 1: So he's he's a excellent football player. But you definitely
Speaker 1: had a plan for him. The other thing, ten, I
Speaker 1: want to bring up in the back end. You watch
Speaker 1: this defense, I see a lot of coverage busts young
Speaker 1: and I feel like that's something they can get Sam
Speaker 1: Howell right.
Speaker 2: Here, Yeah, that's something that we can take advantage of.
Speaker 2: And also, you know, when it comes to just you know,
Speaker 2: I got to go back to Aaron Dodd, I got it,
Speaker 2: cause we can talk about coverage busses, but if you
Speaker 2: ain't even blocking that guy, he ain't gonna have enough
Speaker 2: time for that, you know, to take advantage of those
Speaker 2: coased bushes. Twelve person now thirteen, I mean bring in
Speaker 2: too tight, bringing double tight. I mean no, honestly, let's
Speaker 2: be let's be real, bro, Like I've seen this. Even
Speaker 2: though he doesn't have the numbers of the years before,
Speaker 2: he a game is still just killing things. I mean
Speaker 2: I watched the Ravens put four guys on him, so
Speaker 2: you have to find a way because one of the
Speaker 2: things you just said that stood out, You say, oh, yeah,
Speaker 2: he hasn't had that many, he gonna have five sacks.
Speaker 2: But then you face that one team that you know, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get four, you know what I mean? Getting
Speaker 2: on for the hunt today, Yeah, today is the day
Speaker 2: I get my I'm hoping that we can go into
Speaker 2: this game and say, let's let's if we do anything right,
Speaker 2: let's make sure that he's not the fact reason we lose,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? And I just want to
Speaker 2: see that once because I feel like we got the
Speaker 2: week we play these teams, these dominant teams, whether it's
Speaker 2: a gawn of offense or is the guys on the
Speaker 2: defense that we allowed to be dominant. We allowed to
Speaker 2: be the guy that we knew he was going to
Speaker 2: be coming into the game. So hopefully this is the
Speaker 2: game that we say, regardless of what goes on, let's
Speaker 2: make sure this guy isn't the factor of them. I
Speaker 2: did take from the Ravens game is this might be
Speaker 2: a fullback game.
Speaker 3: When I when cause you know, Ravens got three hundred
Speaker 3: pound fullbacks and they was plunging him into him like
Speaker 3: they would bring him in motion, plunging him into it.
Speaker 2: Like I love team with fullbacks. That's just who I am.
Speaker 3: And they was always the harder teams for us to
Speaker 3: play like because they come out and they physical, physical,
Speaker 3: then they throwing one over the top of you.
Speaker 2: It's just something about a fullback. Man.
Speaker 3: So to me myself, if I see the fullback dressing
Speaker 3: for our team this week, I'm like, all right, they
Speaker 3: get the message.
Speaker 1: We gotta go physical with them.
Speaker 2: All sorts of Ravens getting a lot of you know,
Speaker 2: spread offense. Yeah, like they took advantage of those guys
Speaker 2: in the secondary. I mean, I was listening to OBJ
Speaker 2: talking about he's like a couple of times he renting
Speaker 2: the wrong, wrong rock, and then a couple of times
Speaker 2: you watch him he baiting the safety and he running.
Speaker 2: He ran a he ran. It was like a basic
Speaker 2: and go you remember, And he saw the one he
Speaker 2: scored on if you saw how he came off the line,
Speaker 2: if you jumping that basic because he really ain't can
Speaker 2: attack you, Like who is that safety? You know what
Speaker 2: I mean? Like I was like, you've been on that,
Speaker 2: like you had him because he wasn't running with nothing,
Speaker 2: you know, what I mean. So when you look at
Speaker 2: stuff like that, and one of the things that I've
Speaker 2: always said about this league with you guys know, it's
Speaker 2: a copycat league. You know, if that work, we're gonna
Speaker 2: do it. Put it in our off you know what
Speaker 2: I mean. Find things that other teams were successful with
Speaker 2: and put in your offense added to how you script
Speaker 2: things and see if it goes the same way. Because
Speaker 2: they have to be mindful of it too, you know,
Speaker 2: they have to say, hey, this might happen. We might
Speaker 2: get you know, might get the same look, so be
Speaker 2: ready for it. And then if it's not open and
Speaker 2: you hit the other guy, is this the week for
Speaker 2: Terry to have that game?
Speaker 3: Like we'll be waiting on that game, like that one
Speaker 3: hundred and fifty sixty seventy yard game.
Speaker 2: Is this the week for it?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I just this is a fun statistic that we
Speaker 1: brought it up in the production meeting too, is they
Speaker 1: are the third worst team in the NFL giving up
Speaker 1: exposive pass. So Terry needs two or three catches.
Speaker 2: Yeah, take it the distance, man.
Speaker 1: They bust coverage like, It's not like they bust coverages
Speaker 1: on big completions. There's times where they're in a bunch,
Speaker 1: they motion out of it. I'm talking about LA. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they just or know the the Ravens excuse me,
Speaker 1: and Obj's running in and there is no one close
Speaker 1: twenty yards. Yeah, so the quarterback is working that side.
Speaker 1: That's an explosive play.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So just about when they do mess up, can you
Speaker 1: capitalize on it? Can you block Aaron Donald in the middle.
Speaker 3: And it ain't gonna be the home field in LA
Speaker 3: ain't really home field. So I think when the office
Speaker 3: is on the field, the noise won't be like it
Speaker 3: usually be when you own the road.
Speaker 1: I think it's a great point, all right. Just reminder
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Speaker 1: All right, So now we're gonna do a segment called
Speaker 1: Commander's Advantages. And because we're going to Hollywood, yeah, we're
Speaker 1: gonna put it all in the context of, like we're
Speaker 1: making a movie. Okay, best cinematography, best cinematographer, excuse me, yes,
Speaker 1: someone who needs to look good, best supporting actor. Just
Speaker 1: make some consistent plays you're like in that movie, Like
Speaker 1: when Denzel Washington's killing the scene and his buddy is
Speaker 1: just the guy.
Speaker 2: You're like, Man, I'm like Denze Hill, that guy's crushing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that guy in the background, he's doing what he's doing.
Speaker 3: When you're watching something, you just do a cramp, Like,
Speaker 3: am I the only person crying at them?
Speaker 2: In the end game game? Oh? Got the helm out?
Speaker 2: I mean that crying We got to kill Dan was
Speaker 2: hard on him.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And so then we got best Director being control.
Speaker 1: That feels like maybe a coaching one. And then best
Speaker 1: actor be the leading man, right he that Denzel guy,
Speaker 1: don't be the friend, be the main guy. Let's start
Speaker 1: with the top best cinematography. Who needs to look good
Speaker 1: this game.
Speaker 2: My guy, manny Ford.
Speaker 3: It just he needs to because you know, in the league,
Speaker 3: it's only taken one game for you to ball out,
Speaker 3: for you to believe that, hey, not only do I
Speaker 3: belong here, I could be a star here. And no
Speaker 3: better way to enter your startlem than in LA like
Speaker 3: and you go. You get to go against another rookie
Speaker 3: and pooking the cool all right, who's getting all the praise?
Speaker 2: Go get this praise from him.
Speaker 3: You shut him down to two catches fifteen yards. Now
Speaker 3: they's saying many Ford finally finding it. And now they're like, Okay,
Speaker 3: maybe it wasn't him, maybe with the play calling that
Speaker 3: he was going with.
Speaker 1: So I think for the overall view, I think Man
Speaker 1: of Forbes need.
Speaker 2: This to look good. And I think the only way
Speaker 2: he can look good is have the guys up front,
Speaker 2: who I'm gonna mention right now, play their part and
Speaker 2: do what we've been waiting to see them do more
Speaker 2: of and you know, I understand Chase is going and
Speaker 2: Sweat going, but we still have Alan and Pain, and
Speaker 2: I need to see him bring that joy and pain,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. I need to see these
Speaker 2: two guys be the guys that we just saw play
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame or not Hall of Fame, but Pro
Speaker 2: Bowl style, you know, take over game level. Yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: just last season, I think there there are two guys
Speaker 2: that can you know, one of the things I can say.
Speaker 2: You know, Allen has he gets a lot of double
Speaker 2: teams here and there, and even with paying get double team.
Speaker 2: Pain is one of those guys that has that. Aaron
Speaker 2: Donald is Lawren, he has that kind of you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, he has that you know, he just
Speaker 2: does things differently. You know, you you don't see too
Speaker 2: many guys that play the way he plays. So I
Speaker 2: want these guys to have one of those games. I
Speaker 2: want these guys to look good, you know, in a
Speaker 2: you know, I guess, in a meaningful game. Yeah that
Speaker 2: you going to la this is the time for you
Speaker 2: to you know, shine, this should be your game to
Speaker 2: do that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. For me, I think this is a tough one
Speaker 1: for me. I'm gonna go with Terry McLaurin. I think
Speaker 1: kind of for the same reason that Tanna said for
Speaker 1: for for Don and he needs this game, he needed
Speaker 1: to be and I think it's there, right. I think
Speaker 1: they've got They've got some young guys in the secondary.
Speaker 1: They're not playing overly well. I think when you look
Speaker 1: at the defensive line, obviously Aaron Donald's there, I think
Speaker 1: the old line should be able to protect handle him
Speaker 1: and let Terry go eat and so I want him
Speaker 1: to look good. I want to execute and kind of
Speaker 1: Johann falls in the same bucket receivers. Maybe just in general,
Speaker 1: I think that this is a good opportunity against this
Speaker 1: defensive secondary that's talented but young and making mistakes. Yeah, like,
Speaker 1: let's capitalize that mistakes and let's get some exposive plays
Speaker 1: for for Terry.
Speaker 3: It's funny you say it there, because at the end
Speaker 3: of the day, I think Sam should come.
Speaker 2: Into this game. And I know he loves to spread
Speaker 2: the love.
Speaker 3: I know this his theme, but at one point you
Speaker 3: got to say, you know what, it's time for me
Speaker 3: to go to my go to guy and go to
Speaker 3: him early and off.
Speaker 1: And I think it's also it kind of falls on
Speaker 1: eb too to say Hey, let's we got like this concept.
Speaker 1: Let's put Terry at the number one spot. Let's put
Speaker 1: Jahan the number one spot. Yeah, let's get him some
Speaker 1: touches early. Let's get those opportunities, all right, best supporting actor,
Speaker 1: just someone who needs to be consistent, consistent down.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna start with this one. I want to jump.
Speaker 2: I want to jump the gun. So y'all won't still
Speaker 2: take your guy what you got Johann Dottson, I like
Speaker 2: that one. You know, we see at times, man when
Speaker 2: he's not getting the looks and he's not getting you know,
Speaker 2: not being involved in the play, you kind of forget
Speaker 2: about him. Kind of you kind of see it in
Speaker 2: his body language. You kind of see it, and just
Speaker 2: you know, the play card they don't even come back
Speaker 2: to them because they understand the same thing that we're seeing.
Speaker 2: So I think he needs to have a game where,
Speaker 2: even if it's not the big plays or the big routes,
Speaker 2: just consistently giving him opportunities to catch the five yard
Speaker 2: hitch or a five yard under or just get him
Speaker 2: involved early and often so when we need him to
Speaker 2: step up later on the game, if we don't have
Speaker 2: Terry making the big plays we can count on him.
Speaker 2: I think he's one of those guys that you know,
Speaker 2: we even though he's still leading the receivers in touchdowns
Speaker 2: right now, I think he's leading the team in receiving
Speaker 2: touchdowns with four He's a guy that can get lost
Speaker 2: in the shuffle. And this is the time. We got
Speaker 2: four games left. You need all your guys. But he's
Speaker 2: one of the biggest guys on the offense in the
Speaker 2: passing game that we need to step up for them
Speaker 2: to give him more opportunities. I don't think it's necessarily
Speaker 2: just him. I think they just need to get him
Speaker 2: more involved, but get him involved in in plays where
Speaker 2: he can really you know, excel with. You know, I've
Speaker 2: seen at times we attempt the ball to him, but
Speaker 2: it's not in the right moment, it's not in the
Speaker 2: right situation, and that could weigh on the receiver. I've
Speaker 2: been there. I've been a guy that ran a slant
Speaker 2: and I know this guy on my back and he's
Speaker 2: draped over me and it's just not gonna make you know,
Speaker 2: you know, make out for me to catch this pass.
Speaker 2: And then that's like a you know, notch on me
Speaker 2: to make that play. No, it was perfect coverage and
Speaker 2: threw me a ball that ship got on getting paid to.
Speaker 2: So just get them involved early, fine windows and holes
Speaker 2: where you can get them, get them a couple of
Speaker 2: touches and watch he can be that guy late in
Speaker 2: the game that can make some big plays for us.
Speaker 2: I'm going Cameron curl I'm going Cameron Curle list.
Speaker 3: I need somebody to step up and be Tito Jackson,
Speaker 3: Like at the end of the day, the Jackson five.
Speaker 3: I know Michael was their star, but you ain't done
Speaker 3: with that Tito. You need Tito too, and I need
Speaker 3: Cam to Like it's two people. I just I'm waiting
Speaker 3: for that game, and that's Terry mcloin and Cameron Curle.
Speaker 3: Cavirion curR has been playing very consistent. But where the
Speaker 3: splash plays, where the interceptions, where the forest formers, where
Speaker 3: the former recoveries, give me a sack or two, Like,
Speaker 3: I need that game from you because then I can
Speaker 3: move you from Tito to Michael.
Speaker 2: And that's what I really want to do.
Speaker 3: But I can't do it without a stat line, Like
Speaker 3: I cannot do it without a stat line and consistency.
Speaker 3: Ten nine eleven tackles a game I need splash plays
Speaker 3: and the game changeably, and you.
Speaker 1: Kind of took my my my group because I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, like the secondary in general, because I think,
Speaker 1: you know, the linebackers played better. The defensive line played
Speaker 1: better last week. Kendall Fuller had a good game last week,
Speaker 1: say juiced some good stuff. There was a lot of
Speaker 1: positive things. But can we get you all to be
Speaker 1: on the same page in the back end, And I
Speaker 1: think that starts with camp Camp Crowley as a leader
Speaker 1: back there. Just eliminate the mental mistakes, man, eliminate the
Speaker 1: exposive plays, and I think you're gonna be okay. You know,
Speaker 1: like it's not gonna be the not gonna be the
Speaker 1: best defense in the NFL.
Speaker 3: We ain't had an INSP since October, right, but just
Speaker 3: it's Halloween.
Speaker 1: I don't even care about interception. Just do what you're
Speaker 1: supposed to do, cover the guy you're supposed to cover.
Speaker 1: I think that's gonna be huge for me. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: say the offensive line because I think the offensive line played,
Speaker 1: you know, like they've been getting crushed for the sack numbers,
Speaker 1: but when you watch down to down pretty solid group.
Speaker 1: Last two weeks struggled a little bit. Can we get
Speaker 1: back to that. Hey man, we're average and support this
Speaker 1: offense and the way that you were supporting it earlier
Speaker 1: this season? Right protect Sam pickup blitz is no quick pressures,
Speaker 1: no quick wins for that defensive line. Big task this
Speaker 1: week because Aaron Donald's out there. I think that's the
Speaker 1: group I just want to highlight. You know, Sam Cosby
Speaker 1: has been playing great. I think Chris Paul struggled last
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Can he play better? I need to
Speaker 1: do it this week to kind of elevate that group.
Speaker 1: And just because think about it, if they don't play well,
Speaker 1: the offense is going to struggle to get those guys going. Okay.
Speaker 1: So this is interesting and I can't wait here.
Speaker 2: What you got to say? Pretty cold in here? I
Speaker 2: feel like snumb You took the words I was sitting
Speaker 2: here fence like bro y'all ain't the hawk? Hawk is here, man.
Speaker 1: I actually like it. It feels kind of good. You
Speaker 1: like the hawk that No, I like the temperature in here,
Speaker 1: but you don't like hawks. I'm still I'm still refining
Speaker 1: my hawk.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: It's still coming along.
Speaker 2: Like where do I use it? How do I deliver
Speaker 2: hulk ain't size is in here?
Speaker 1: That hawking here?
Speaker 2: How it's still not coming off your tongue. I'm looking,
Speaker 2: they just said, And I gotta get Jason some credit. Jason, like,
Speaker 2: Jason said that. I said, at the same Hell, no, no,
Speaker 2: j just said that. You said, you said, like, you're right,
Speaker 2: you say it different, like is that really a hawk?
Speaker 2: He said? Here, I'll get it.
Speaker 1: I'll keep practicing. It's getting better, you know out there.
Speaker 2: I'm glad we verified that it did exist, that the
Speaker 2: hawk did. Is it all right? So best director Midwest,
Speaker 2: thank you, best director for this game. Run coach.
Speaker 3: Coach Rivera because he got an extra week to implement
Speaker 3: his defense and now just went I'm going to judge him.
Speaker 2: I didn't want to judge in Miami. You had five age.
Speaker 2: Just stop one of the most potent offenses in Elite.
Speaker 2: Now bye week.
Speaker 3: Now show me what the identity of the defense is.
Speaker 3: How are we different? I ain't worried about what the
Speaker 3: identity is. How are we different than what we used
Speaker 3: to do? And I think what he's gonna do is
Speaker 3: what all great defensive do. You're not gonna beat me
Speaker 3: with your usual suspects. You won't beat me with Cooper Cup.
Speaker 3: You won't beat me with Pooka Nikola. You're gonna have
Speaker 3: to beat me with your third wide receiver, while your
Speaker 3: fourth wide receiver with slow death.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 3: I think I think he's gonna he's gonna make somebody
Speaker 3: else beat him. And I think they're smart to too
Speaker 3: well or somebody like that gonna have to beat him.
Speaker 2: Don't forget about him either. He fast. I think we
Speaker 2: all can kind of just pick it back off that
Speaker 2: I like n.
Speaker 1: I got a different one, but I like Ron one control. Yeah,
Speaker 1: obviously we agree Ron big deal here. And for me,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pick a player. I'm gonna pick Brian Robinson Junior.
Speaker 1: And I think when if he can be in control
Speaker 1: of this game, get the touches he needs to get,
Speaker 1: catch the footballs he needs to catch.
Speaker 2: He has.
Speaker 1: He's shown an ability to really impact the game. You know,
Speaker 1: obviously a guy that is up for Pro Bowl contention.
Speaker 1: You know, first among running backs in the NFC for
Speaker 1: in terms of yards per reception, second and broken tackles
Speaker 1: per rush. Like, he is a guy that has a
Speaker 1: skill set that is very, very advantageous for this offense.
Speaker 1: And so we always talk about ball control whatever we're
Speaker 1: doing here, right, I just want to see him get
Speaker 1: some touches, you know. And again that kind of goes
Speaker 1: into eb what kind of game you call him? Can
Speaker 1: you lean on this defense? You take Aaron Donald out
Speaker 1: by running the football. I think that all starts with
Speaker 1: him and uh and his and his physical skill.
Speaker 2: He's not sure of what's going to go on with
Speaker 2: b Rob because you know he had a little nick.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and so yeah, you know he's practicing this week,
Speaker 1: so we'll see how he looks on game day.
Speaker 2: You always want to be, you know, careful than just
Speaker 2: throwing him out there, especially with the hamstring coming.
Speaker 3: Yeah, ham screen. One play away, Always tell people one
Speaker 3: play away from.
Speaker 1: All right now for the final that was terrible, like, okay,
Speaker 1: there we go. That was hard for me.
Speaker 2: Okay, had no sound to him.
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, all right, best actor be the leading man.
Speaker 1: And I think we all know Tannau quarter.
Speaker 2: Sam, I am. I mean, can we pick anybody else
Speaker 2: that's fitting more fitting for that position? Now? I think
Speaker 2: Sam just the guy man. I think this we've seen
Speaker 2: for the last four or five weeks where if this
Speaker 2: offense is stagnant, it's because the quarterback play, regardless of
Speaker 2: what we're getting pressurized, regardless of what we're seeing, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. Out there in the secondary, if
Speaker 2: Sam isn't having one of those games where he's controlling things,
Speaker 2: understanding that what I see up there, I gotta get
Speaker 2: rid of the football, Understanding that what I see down there,
Speaker 2: I got to hit the right person that's open with
Speaker 2: the football, Understanding that I might have a chance to
Speaker 2: take a shot. I got to make sure this shot happens.
Speaker 2: He's the guy. He's the guy that's gonna We're gonna
Speaker 2: go as far as he goes. And when we see
Speaker 2: the outcome of some of these games that we've seen
Speaker 2: in the past few weeks, Sam hasn't been Sam. It
Speaker 2: hasn't been to Sam that we were just once talking
Speaker 2: about that they found that guy. Now we're back to
Speaker 2: do we have I guy? You know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it's just like I say, listen to everything. I
Speaker 2: just to tell all of it. And it's crazy how
Speaker 2: that's why I've always been that guy. Stay neutral, you know,
Speaker 2: never get too high, never get too low, stay neutral.
Speaker 2: To me, Sam's still a product that you can win with.
Speaker 2: You know, He's a guy that he's learning on the job.
Speaker 2: So with that being said, we've seen him play some
Speaker 2: great games. We've seen him play so some not so
Speaker 2: great games. Can Sam be a guy that just control things,
Speaker 2: understand what's going on, manipulate their defenses because they try
Speaker 2: to manipulate what we do offense, manipulate their defenses. With
Speaker 2: some of his passes, some of his threat of being
Speaker 2: being able to be a runner, he showed now enough
Speaker 2: that he can run. Take advantage of it. B RG three.
Speaker 2: Now to do what I used to tell RG three. Hey, bro,
Speaker 2: it ain't there run take off run. You have that,
Speaker 2: you have that asset to you use it and if not,
Speaker 2: we will fall by the wayside. Because he's the guy.
Speaker 2: He's the guy that he's the leading role. And without
Speaker 2: Denzel being in training to day as other as he was,
Speaker 2: nothing you your haul and training.
Speaker 3: And that's why in my head, the leading man of
Speaker 3: my movie, it's one coach being in me claiming their
Speaker 3: soul played by London Fletchers.
Speaker 2: Yes, you come in here with a black eye. You
Speaker 2: could wait, bro, I'm serious.
Speaker 3: Though, I think I think Coach be enemy can have
Speaker 3: an imprint on this game because when we come into
Speaker 3: the game, everybody gonna be talking about mcveigh's d offensive
Speaker 3: good rule. And I'm sure coach being me just sitting
Speaker 3: over there, like, Hey, my guy second in the league
Speaker 3: in yards, my guy been in the league two years,
Speaker 3: look at what I'm doing.
Speaker 2: Went over here, a guy that's up for potential Pro Bowl.
Speaker 2: Look at what I'm doing over here.
Speaker 3: So I think Coach is just sitting back and saying,
Speaker 3: you know what, this is a game I can go
Speaker 3: demand respect. This is a game I can put my
Speaker 3: imprint on it, and me and Sam could be hosted
Speaker 3: hoisted up is all right, Well, this is a young
Speaker 3: duo that people need to watch out for.
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go Coach be enemy played by London Fletch.
Speaker 2: I totally it's so funny, man, This guy's ridiculous. It's ridiculous.
Speaker 2: But yeah, so I would.
Speaker 1: I would agree Sam how Eb. And again I just
Speaker 1: a little analysis here. The offense has struggled the past
Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Yeah, receivers don't seem like they're quite
Speaker 1: timing up with him protections.
Speaker 2: I've been there.
Speaker 1: Can we all come together because I do think this
Speaker 1: offense is driven by Sam Howe. Yeah, we got to
Speaker 1: make some plays and uh, and I think he's got
Speaker 1: to be the guy. He's got to be the leading man.
Speaker 1: He's got the ability man, He's got the ability you want.
Speaker 1: Do you think back to those New England games, you know,
Speaker 1: early in the season against Denver, like he has done
Speaker 1: some tremendous stuff. Let's get back to that against the
Speaker 1: defense that I think is is good but not great.
Speaker 1: Definitely not as to the caliber defense who played last.
Speaker 2: Coup year in the last couple of weeks, no doubt.
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Speaker 1: So this is the part of the show that not
Speaker 1: always fun to do. Game predictions mm hmm. You know
Speaker 1: what I really do.
Speaker 2: And it's been a couple of weeks. It's like it's
Speaker 2: been a couple of weeks. I really do think we
Speaker 2: can win this. This one feels like it because you
Speaker 2: know what we're coming out for. Buy.
Speaker 3: We're playing against a team that just played a fifth
Speaker 3: quarter in the Rangers they play the fifth quarter football,
Speaker 3: it's the quarter that always hurts. We met your well
Speaker 3: against him. You know, things they do well, we kind
Speaker 3: of do well. Things they do bad, we kind of
Speaker 3: do bad. So it's a toss up on it. I
Speaker 3: think whoever stores off the fastest in the first quarter
Speaker 3: wins this game. I'm going to say twenty four fourteen fourteen. Yeah,
Speaker 3: twenty four to fourteen.
Speaker 2: You just made that up on the spot.
Speaker 1: I did. I'll go okay. So I think that this game,
Speaker 1: to Fred's point, feels like the most winnable game we've
Speaker 1: had in a couple of weeks, because I thought Dallas
Speaker 1: gonna be tough.
Speaker 2: Huh.
Speaker 1: I know, I know it could be trouble, and then
Speaker 1: Miami was gonna be really tough. Now this feels like
Speaker 1: if the defense just plays consistently and offensively, we get
Speaker 1: the version of Sam Howe or he's been super productive.
Speaker 1: I think we got a shot. And I think this defense,
Speaker 1: for them, they busts enough stuff. They're not always on
Speaker 1: the same page. You can get some game plan throws,
Speaker 1: get some explosive plays and you're in it. I just
Speaker 1: think this road trip's gonna be tough for this team.
Speaker 2: I don't think the west coast east coast trip is
Speaker 2: what it used to be.
Speaker 3: It's hard trip, though, I know it's come on, you're here,
Speaker 3: it's like forty degrees. It's dead outside the burden left
Speaker 3: and with the Mississippi right when you laying in La,
Speaker 3: that sun right there, like it energizes you, like it's warmer.
Speaker 2: Our guy's gonna be like, you know what, I feel
Speaker 2: a little better. Let's go play a football.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's a good point. So I'm gonna say, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna say twenty eight to twenty four. The Commanders end
Speaker 1: up losing this game.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I ain't. I ain't gonna board them. I ain't
Speaker 2: gonna board them. People with all that analytical stuff. They
Speaker 2: ain't got a chance. Stop no chance. Okay, can't we
Speaker 2: put up the disclaimers and all that stuff. You gotta
Speaker 2: be twenty one older. I mean, honestly, the man. Look,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be that guy. Yeah, let me put it
Speaker 2: out there and so they can get mad or something
Speaker 2: and win. Yeah, you're trying. You're trying to give Bill barbo.
Speaker 2: I'm trying to psych myself out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, if you're playing reverse psychology with yourself, we're doing it, bro,
Speaker 1: I keep doing it.
Speaker 2: It ain't don't work. But hey, he ain't got a chance.
Speaker 2: Show me, show me, show me. I think from Missouri,
Speaker 2: I just I just want a really competitive football game.
Speaker 2: I want I want it every week that I know.
Speaker 3: This is what I want for the first game this year.
Speaker 3: I want to ask stars to be stars like simple.
Speaker 3: I want pain in Allen, I want uh Sam, I
Speaker 3: want Tarry.
Speaker 2: I want stars, stars and pain. Yeah, that's what I want. Shine.
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Speaker 2: It's so funny that Virginia might be home of the
Speaker 2: Washington Wizards. And yeah, well no it's not. Might be
Speaker 2: there are They said it this morning. It's still got
Speaker 2: to go through the house. It's still the final. It
Speaker 2: just came across the thing, all right, Well it's final.
Speaker 2: It went through the house.
Speaker 3: Well, Virginia is the biggest riches state. They have no proteins.
Speaker 3: Oh really in America?
Speaker 2: What is my thing? How does you know that? I
Speaker 2: don't know everything, but this is my thing. Now, this
Speaker 2: is my question, because I've been here in the old
Speaker 2: Hoop leaving d C is not It's still a DC team,
Speaker 2: It's still Washington. They're just basing theirselfs in Virginia, Like
Speaker 2: how the Washington Commanders.
Speaker 3: Brooklyn, but they New York team it's in San Francisco, moved.
Speaker 2: Out of there, like uh so, No, I'm just saying
Speaker 2: because I've heard so much backlash on what is what's
Speaker 2: going to be missing when they leave d C. But
Speaker 2: I'm like, d C is d C. You have so
Speaker 2: much other stuff to offer, they don't really need to nations.
Speaker 2: Franklin watched the game in d C. Is the stadium
Speaker 2: moving or are they still playing their games?
Speaker 1: They're going to I thought the facility was.
Speaker 2: They're building a whole news sports complex and a practice
Speaker 2: facility in Alexandria.
Speaker 1: Right, So we'll talk more about that as that. And
Speaker 1: then I've been closer and we have some very special
Speaker 1: guests here today because we are doing a pop culture
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Speaker 2: Is that what we're calling you? Anna? Hey, sorry, Dyslexia
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Speaker 1: And then we've got an even more exclusive guest producer
Speaker 1: Maddie and I don't know if you guys know this
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Speaker 1: so here she was a round. So Maddie Anna, how
Speaker 1: are you guys doing today?
Speaker 4: Well, thank you guys so much for having us on today.
Speaker 4: We really appreciate being here to uh to talk to
Speaker 4: Pop Taylor.
Speaker 2: Sweet voice. That's the nicest. That's the nicest Maddie's ever been.
Speaker 4: Maddie's voice that she is about that.
Speaker 2: Is not the Maddie that tailor mean when I got
Speaker 2: to be in the morning.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it's a very nice message of saying, hey, guys,
Speaker 4: let's make sure we're down here at this time.
Speaker 2: Can you keep it? I have no problem with you,
Speaker 2: Maddie made who's got no one's got problems with Maddie.
Speaker 2: I don't have problem with Maddy, except for Maddy need
Speaker 2: to kind of put her foot down at times with
Speaker 2: some knuckleheads. You know you got one knucklehead. I don't
Speaker 2: know out. I just break up stuff that everybody want
Speaker 2: to tell you A hit dog will holler it will
Speaker 2: and I ain't say nobody.
Speaker 3: Just like earlier when I brought up the fact that
Speaker 3: amma had on a terror neck to neck turn.
Speaker 2: Want to say, first off, that's a very nice sweater.
Speaker 2: It depends on your grandma and time out.
Speaker 1: For one second, you are tripping always wearing mock necks
Speaker 1: and stuff, and the second someone elsewhere.
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, what's up with that thing covering your neck?
Speaker 2: What's going on with that?
Speaker 4: Put me an elf on the shelf to the recker,
Speaker 4: because you know what.
Speaker 2: Does the elfh on the shelf have a mock neck?
Speaker 2: You got a Marknick, Do you have a picture of that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's like it's like a collar. She got the same
Speaker 2: shirt you woll you took your picture for you talking
Speaker 2: about the white was about I look good in my neck.
Speaker 2: Here's a difference between mock and turtle. I mean it
Speaker 2: covers a lot of your neck.
Speaker 1: You's got a short neck.
Speaker 2: Maybe that mock neck. I don't know.
Speaker 1: But anyway, so the reason they're here for their expertise, right, So,
Speaker 1: right now everyone's freaking out. Travis Kelsey's having a down year,
Speaker 1: not down year for him, and he's parting after partying
Speaker 1: after a tough loss around so.
Speaker 3: We as Anthony's not supposed to have a personal life,
Speaker 3: so We're just supposed to go to work, go home
Speaker 3: and show up and play a game. We can't go
Speaker 3: to dinner. We can't go part of without a half.
Speaker 1: He's hanging out with Tata, and there's a different there's
Speaker 1: a different standard there, Right, there's a different standard because
Speaker 1: I got I can't just go hang out with my
Speaker 1: old lady at the at the bar that night, right,
Speaker 1: I gotta go to like Brazil. So the travels a
Speaker 1: little bit different. This reeks of Tony Romo and Jessica Simpson.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 1: It doesn't feel the same way.
Speaker 2: It reeks of this is going on the boat.
Speaker 1: So, hey, what do you think I remember? So, yeah,
Speaker 1: what do you think is this Taylor Swift? Is Taylor Swift,
Speaker 1: Travis Kelce the same thing as Tony Romo and Jessica
Speaker 1: Ciska Simpson.
Speaker 2: It's bigger. You don't even know that is I think?
Speaker 2: So I know who it is.
Speaker 4: I don't think this is the same scale. I think
Speaker 4: it's two of the top professionals in each of their
Speaker 4: respective areas coming together to support each other. And I
Speaker 4: also want to know the definition of of just going
Speaker 4: out and having dinner like that's not partying.
Speaker 1: That's just city.
Speaker 2: Go have dinner, like he said, if they're catching a
Speaker 2: flight to tim Buck two. We got a game Friday.
Speaker 2: I think that's the whole thing about it.
Speaker 5: I got Can I say that I heard that this
Speaker 5: was a birthday party that he was at attending and
Speaker 5: nobody saw any sort of beverages in his hands.
Speaker 3: See that's the police sn't need people checking the sea happened.
Speaker 1: That's part of the thing though, when you're when you're
Speaker 1: going out with a girl like that or a person
Speaker 1: like that, like you gotta yeah, you gotta be locked in.
Speaker 1: But I will say this, he is not having a
Speaker 1: bad year.
Speaker 4: That's know what I'm saying, as like, actually look at
Speaker 4: the numbers and describe what a down year is for me.
Speaker 4: He's going to hit a thousand yards this season, likely
Speaker 4: just under nine hundred right now.
Speaker 2: It's for Why do I feel like easy to get fitting?
Speaker 1: He's leading all tight ends and interceptions.
Speaker 2: I feel like.
Speaker 3: Taylor Swift should be dating Tom Brady, Like I feel
Speaker 3: like she's a quarterbacks girl, not a tight girl.
Speaker 2: Like this because you a tight end that's like you
Speaker 2: like it. I feel like it used to be Joe Burrow.
Speaker 2: I supposed to be Thomas.
Speaker 1: What do you think girls, ladies, women, Tom.
Speaker 2: Brady, because I think a quarterback has cliche. Well, so
Speaker 2: all the women in the world love Kelsey, so they're
Speaker 2: going to think that, So only ask him that question.
Speaker 5: Kelsey is like there as a tight end, He's going
Speaker 5: to be one of the greats.
Speaker 2: Not even now. We ain't talking about his performance, We're
Speaker 2: talking about the the vibe. The vibe because like, there's
Speaker 2: something about a guy.
Speaker 1: There's something about a quarterback, right, And this is maybe
Speaker 1: our bias is swimmer players quarterback if they just feel
Speaker 1: like they're the most famous on the team all the.
Speaker 5: Ways, well they're both equally as famous Travis and Patrick Mahons,
Speaker 5: You don't think.
Speaker 2: So nobody compares to the quarterbacks quarterbacks. That's interesting. That's
Speaker 2: an interesting point. What I appreciate you acknowledgeing because they
Speaker 2: made it seem like when she first started dating Kelsey
Speaker 2: that he was nobody who was who is who is Kelvy?
Speaker 2: Who is Kelsey? And I'm like, this guy has commercial,
Speaker 2: this guy has the status. This guy is like the
Speaker 2: leading tight end, and he's always going to be the
Speaker 2: arguably the best play the game. So statist, I mean
Speaker 2: like you're statistically why was my motto? You know?
Speaker 1: So, my question is do you think she should be
Speaker 1: dating a quarterback?
Speaker 2: No? I think it matters.
Speaker 5: It doesn't. He's successful, Maddie.
Speaker 2: I'm going to give you a turn getting back to that.
Speaker 2: I don't feel like it matters. Why doesn't it matter?
Speaker 4: I feel like they should just be able to do
Speaker 4: whatever they want. They're two of the greatest.
Speaker 2: Do whatever they want.
Speaker 1: Because they're great. Look, but I'm saying like you're you're
Speaker 1: like you're your bucking NFL tradition here because the quarterback
Speaker 1: gets the girl.
Speaker 4: Does not say that the tight end position is now
Speaker 4: like one of the more popular I would I would.
Speaker 1: Like to say that it's quarterback.
Speaker 2: It is you're right receiver.
Speaker 4: Like back when you all were playing, was it tight
Speaker 4: end position?
Speaker 2: No, it wasn't. As it wasn't. It wasn't as popular
Speaker 2: as it is now.
Speaker 1: You know you work with me, am I cool.
Speaker 2: As an individual, it doesn't matter what your status is.
Speaker 2: If you and that person connect, y'all should be at
Speaker 2: a date. Now, I understand we live in two different worlds.
Speaker 2: You're talking about the entertainment world and you're talking about
Speaker 2: the football world. Of course they would say that the
Speaker 2: quarterbacks should have the it girl. But Travis Kelcey isn't
Speaker 2: just an ordinary football player. He's the it tight. Yeah,
Speaker 2: you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: There's a there's a there's a gravity to the celebrity
Speaker 1: of yeah that certain people can't tolerate. You got to
Speaker 1: be your own selestial entity here. This is a crazy
Speaker 1: analogy all of a sudden, But like she's like, she's
Speaker 1: it right. She might be the most famous sun and
Speaker 1: you have to be able to keep your orbit around
Speaker 1: her or she's gonna just suck you into the sun
Speaker 1: and burn.
Speaker 2: That's why I cannot wait for this new love that playoff.
Speaker 2: He's the he's the right guy for her, That's what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. He's gotta have.
Speaker 5: He has an edging this into the entertainment world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's got his podcast.
Speaker 2: Entertainment that's just football.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many how many views he's acting to too?
Speaker 1: He has like like five million or something.
Speaker 5: Right, But they're doing a great job.
Speaker 4: It's a good podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, the podcast has grown even more with the whole
Speaker 2: him and his relationship. But I was just at Joe's
Speaker 2: Cafe and you know spot that we we all eat
Speaker 2: at I love and I'm sitting there waiting on my
Speaker 2: sandwich and I'm like, dude, they have a Travis Kelsey
Speaker 2: picture sitting here. So so that was Mark. That was
Speaker 2: like the little light bulb cooking on, like this is
Speaker 2: showing this is either from what the hoop lies been
Speaker 2: about or they just they just love Travis Kelson. I
Speaker 2: feel so y'all y'all answered that question both because I.
Speaker 3: Watched LeVar Arrington. He was dating you know, Williams. She
Speaker 3: was here every day in practice, but they on't blew
Speaker 3: up like this. It's it's Arena's world right now tennis.
Speaker 1: Because they're both athletes. So yeah, it's different.
Speaker 2: Well I'm just saying, but I mean, I mean, we
Speaker 2: have we have experts. We have experts here. Is it different.
Speaker 1: Is dating an athlete different than dating us a celebrity celebrity?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we just both the same things different.
Speaker 5: I think it depends on how famous the athlete.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's Serena Williams. There wasn't a more famous female.
Speaker 5: Williams is very fa.
Speaker 2: And I guess because it was the times that we
Speaker 2: was in and we didn't have social media, a lot
Speaker 2: of this stuff that we a lot of stuff we're
Speaker 2: talking about right now. The only reason why we're talking
Speaker 2: about it because of what these phones allow us to
Speaker 2: see every day and allow everybody else a gateway.
Speaker 3: Into everybody life and everybody life perfect and on Instagram.
Speaker 4: And I think that's the biggest thing too, is it's
Speaker 4: like in the entertainment world, you're trying to connect with
Speaker 4: your friends more on a one on one basis, So
Speaker 4: you're posting more on social, You're you're being more interactive
Speaker 4: as where athletes don't, like that's not their main platform,
Speaker 4: Like they're focused in season doing their thing. They're not
Speaker 4: always out on social trying to be as one on
Speaker 4: one interactive with their fans.
Speaker 2: And Travis is like, that's a different screw that. I'm
Speaker 2: the I'm the baddest and I'm gonna go out here.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna go have a drink out here at this
Speaker 2: party after we got our butts kicked, and trust me,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be able to do this. But that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Long before the Swift is turned on them though, like
Speaker 2: if they break up, it's over with.
Speaker 4: I mean they tried to turn on him.
Speaker 2: Why what happened?
Speaker 4: They went down his Twitter.
Speaker 5: They went all the way all the way to the
Speaker 5: beginning of his Twitter, and I don't think they could
Speaker 5: find anything controversial on him.
Speaker 2: Okay, I saw some funny about him person, it's not
Speaker 2: like a person that like a little Travis Castle. They
Speaker 2: didn't find anything controversy in his so okay.
Speaker 1: So the question was if Sam Howse started dating like
Speaker 1: something famous? Is that a famous person? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Really famous?
Speaker 1: Yeah, if they started dating, he started kind of falling
Speaker 1: all around. Would we would I be concerned?
Speaker 2: We only wait him? Yes, I would. Could we get
Speaker 2: our butts kick? So that's gonna be more in the
Speaker 2: concern than anything.
Speaker 1: Some time out, some time out. So I don't get
Speaker 1: concerned about Travis kelcey with this because he is a
Speaker 1: fifteen year VET. He's been around for a long time.
Speaker 1: He's got the experience, His production has been there, His
Speaker 1: production is there. He made one of the most game
Speaker 1: changing plays that will never count in the history of
Speaker 1: the NFL while doing this right, he had eighty three
Speaker 1: yards receiving on four receptions. Like he's playing well. I
Speaker 1: don't think a young player could handle like they don't
Speaker 1: know themselves well enough.
Speaker 2: Young people need a love life to like I'm people
Speaker 2: won't he used to be half? But could he? But
Speaker 2: could he?
Speaker 1: But could he handle it? Could he handle this? Sam?
Speaker 3: Cook of Sam is just even Sam. Don't get too
Speaker 3: handy to handle it, Sam, don't get too well.
Speaker 2: Sam remind me a lot of myself. And I'm not
Speaker 2: talking about just on. I love it. He took my thing.
Speaker 2: I love it. What you're talking about, be honest though,
Speaker 2: yap all interviews Sam, just what I'm saying. So you
Speaker 2: get a guy who's not too high on stuff, and
Speaker 2: he's damn so not too low. So when it comes
Speaker 2: to talking about him dating somebody like that, he ain't
Speaker 2: gonna be dating on. That's what I'm trying thing too.
Speaker 4: I think, like y'all know you've been in their shoes, right, Like,
Speaker 4: you're a professional when you come to work. Your private
Speaker 4: life is at home and you're here like, you're here
Speaker 4: to work, You're here to focus, You're here to do
Speaker 4: your job to the best of your abilities every single day.
Speaker 4: So that's why I'm like, your personal life really impacts
Speaker 4: the impacts what you do obviously.
Speaker 1: So that's so that's why you're assuming, right, You're assuming
Speaker 1: that everyone comes in and it is super professional I
Speaker 1: can think of about five hundred people that I played
Speaker 1: with that were not always professional.
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks are usually professional.
Speaker 1: But if the quarterback started doing this and started like
Speaker 1: on Tuesday, for example, saying instead of coming to watching film,
Speaker 1: which is his off day, but quarterbacks are always in
Speaker 1: on the off day, but he's in LA where they're
Speaker 1: at a grande, I'm like, this is going to negatively
Speaker 1: affect his performance, even though there's nothing categoric wrong with them.
Speaker 2: So look, that's we're worried about professionals. But there's guys
Speaker 2: right now in college that you know, we get a
Speaker 2: Monday off day. Yeah, they got n Ils. Now they
Speaker 2: got money. They're going to Miami. They're going to different
Speaker 2: locations to spend their Mondays because they have money. They're
Speaker 2: going to courtside of the Lakers. We're not even talking
Speaker 2: about these guys doing the same thing that professionals are doing.
Speaker 2: So why are we getting all uh, you know, boxes
Speaker 2: and a bunch about a professional handling his way professionally
Speaker 2: and going to do what he wants to do. You
Speaker 2: are professional football player. Against want you to play the football.
Speaker 2: They just want you to play football.
Speaker 1: What I'm saying with a young guy young player. And
Speaker 1: this is irrespective of position.
Speaker 2: I'm saying, no, they don't matter how young you are.
Speaker 1: No, no, no, I'm about I'm about you clean, Like
Speaker 1: if you can handle your business, you can handle your
Speaker 1: business business, do you whatever you want.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying every young guy that I know coming
Speaker 2: to the NFL, very few of them, and I was
Speaker 2: one of them. Bro, you got to get you. You
Speaker 2: got to find your gist. You got to say, okay,
Speaker 2: I'm here now now I could do everything else like
Speaker 2: I tried to do everything else and injury injury, injury,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, oh, I got to cut everything out,
Speaker 2: found my way and then now I can do everything. Now,
Speaker 2: do what you want to do. But once that'stablished. And
Speaker 2: so for me, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know Sam, like we interview him, but I
Speaker 1: don't know if he's got that groove yet. So just
Speaker 1: let the groove get established.
Speaker 2: Areana?
Speaker 1: I gotta wait?
Speaker 2: But not everybody can do that.
Speaker 4: Trust that your teammates are gone jobs, like you're doing
Speaker 4: your job.
Speaker 1: But what I'm saying like, and I would I don't
Speaker 1: know if I would, if me and Fred would have
Speaker 1: this conversation, but like there's certain guys that I played
Speaker 1: with that I had to be like, bro, calm down, yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: and so like if and like that said, but think.
Speaker 2: About this, if I'm mooed up. If I'm mooed up,
Speaker 2: ain't I settled.
Speaker 4: That point blank? We don't know these people. We're just
Speaker 4: some average jos over here.
Speaker 2: But let me tell you average jos.
Speaker 4: They said Joe's like, they're professionals. They're going to do
Speaker 4: their job. Let their personal life be their personal life.
Speaker 4: Let them be happy to saying I don't care and
Speaker 4: he is still producing.
Speaker 1: Let me just say this, I don't. I don't care
Speaker 1: about Travis. Do whatever you want. You've you're a pro,
Speaker 1: you're a professional guy, right, you just do whatever you want. No, No,
Speaker 1: he's he's got his routine established. But the same hall
Speaker 1: thing I would be a little bit concerned about. Last
Speaker 1: question here, do you think that Jason Kelcey and Taylor
Speaker 1: Swift are Travis Kelcey, Jason Travis kelce our endgame excellent?
Speaker 2: Yes? I said no on the line. I know you did,
Speaker 2: but you've changed, huh, I have changed my mind?
Speaker 4: Mad hold on Endgame on record is one of my
Speaker 4: favorite Taylor Swift songs and if you haven't heard it,
Speaker 4: you need to go listen to it right now. Endgame.
Speaker 4: It's a great song. She performed it when he was
Speaker 4: there at her concert. End game. That means locked up,
Speaker 4: put a ring on it.
Speaker 2: End game.
Speaker 3: That's one they've been dating, by the way, probably buy
Speaker 3: so much. The problem is, is the nf AL gonna
Speaker 3: let her do the super Bowl next year? And what
Speaker 3: if Kansas City is playing in that super Bowl?
Speaker 4: The best super Bowl ever?
Speaker 2: Come on, we got Usher this year, that we got
Speaker 2: a little Usher in this year? Not gonna perform that?
Speaker 1: I don't do they even know? How do you feel
Speaker 1: about Usher? I know?
Speaker 2: Usher? You know what church you went to?
Speaker 5: That song with Justin Bieber?
Speaker 2: Is that ludicrous? That was never? She don't know? That's
Speaker 2: how I know you're talking about. Is gonna be sick there? Like?
Speaker 2: Who is Usher?
Speaker 1: Who?
Speaker 2: No confessions? Rihanna confessions? I think we'll be You don't know,
Speaker 2: let it burn, let it come on? You know USh? Well?
Speaker 2: I guess they don't. I guess when we get older.
Speaker 1: She just said ushers and O g in my game.
Speaker 2: I know That's what I'm saying. The young, the young,
Speaker 2: that's why we need their input. You know confessions though, right,
Speaker 2: No they don't. That's it's like popular if you don't
Speaker 2: know anything, you know, you know, Joe. There we go, Okay,
Speaker 2: we wonder do the.
Speaker 1: World before this thing gets too off the rails. All right, Anna, Maddie,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for joining us and providing that
Speaker 1: tremendous insight giving us that you did you actually finish
Speaker 1: your thought about whether the end game or not?
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Speaker 2: to be continued if you haven't determined, and we need
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