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Speaker 1: out as we go along. As always, back with Isaiah
Speaker 1: stand back heck my Harrison. No Rob Phillips again this week.
Speaker 1: We will try and get him back next week. But gentlemen,
Speaker 1: how are we doing? As another day of virtual that's okay,
Speaker 1: but we'll be back together soon, Isaiah. I mean, everything
Speaker 1: to look forward to for this Cowboys team this week,
Speaker 1: and hey, you've got a new year you're celebrating as well. Absolutely, man,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good. You know, say, y'all are looking good.
Speaker 1: You know, we're coming up on another year with this podcast.
Speaker 1: I'm happy to be you know, obviously, this is the
Speaker 1: kind of coming to the end of year two. You know,
Speaker 1: hopefully we have a playoff run to go handle this year,
Speaker 1: so I'm really just looking forward to the future. Man.
Speaker 1: You know, I'm blessed to have this opportunity and I'm
Speaker 1: happy to be around drawn as always. What was the
Speaker 1: what did you say earlier? What did you say? Kyle?
Speaker 1: You said something? You said a lot, man, I was
Speaker 1: I was trying to take it out. Oh yeah. It
Speaker 1: was just basically a big intro and then a new
Speaker 1: year on the way. And it is weird that Isaiah
Speaker 1: brought it up. I mean, this is the end of
Speaker 1: the second season with this group of talking Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: it feels like yesterday that we were in the studio
Speaker 1: for the first time together, in the at least virtual
Speaker 1: studio for the first time as well. But we're almost
Speaker 1: through our entire second year as a group, and I
Speaker 1: know you're having some fun. No I am. I'm jealous
Speaker 1: of you right now. Man, You're in the studio and
Speaker 1: I'm sitting here and wishing that I was in the studio.
Speaker 1: So I think that's why my brains blinked out there
Speaker 1: for a second. Kyle Yeoman's But yeah, man, this is this, dude,
Speaker 1: I this has been outstanding. And loving the season that
Speaker 1: we're having. I'm with Isaiah on that. Man, this is
Speaker 1: like to finish up the second season of doing this
Speaker 1: and the team beyond the all time high that they're
Speaker 1: on right now. I mean, nothing can be better. Man.
Speaker 1: We want this to go all the way to the
Speaker 1: super Bowl. Baby. So I'm just I'm feeling good, man,
Speaker 1: I'm feeling good about the wid this year has gone,
Speaker 1: and just feeling good about twenty twenty two. Well, and
Speaker 1: with that being said, it is a complete turnaround of
Speaker 1: twenty twenty two. Of course twenty one. Because of the
Speaker 1: fact that six and ten and eleven and four anyway
Speaker 1: you shape it, spin it whatever, it's way better to
Speaker 1: deal with on a Cowboys landscape. But heck, when when
Speaker 1: you look back at this year, What do you feel
Speaker 1: like it's going to be remembered for? Because I feel
Speaker 1: like the Super Bowl may be kind of thrown into
Speaker 1: that that twenty two conversation of a year if they
Speaker 1: were to make it that far. But in terms of
Speaker 1: twenty one, what do you feel like it's going to
Speaker 1: be remember the most man? Dak is back. Dak is back.
Speaker 1: We remembered how twenty twenty went, and you were so,
Speaker 1: I guess uncertain about how he was going to come
Speaker 1: back from the ankle, and just the way that he
Speaker 1: came back at twenty twenty. I think we all twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one. I think we all had our reservations about
Speaker 1: his health, and I think he's checked a lot of
Speaker 1: those boxes. Also, dan Quinn is gonna be a big
Speaker 1: part of twenty twenty one, and just man, how could
Speaker 1: one man make that big of a difference on your squad?
Speaker 1: And that's just his impact on our twenty twenty one season.
Speaker 1: So Dak and dan Quinn are going to be the
Speaker 1: narratives that I would write for twenty twenty one, The
Speaker 1: narratives that I'm coming with our cultural change and identity.
Speaker 1: Those are the things I've been preaching ever since we
Speaker 1: went on a defensive coordinator hunt in this past all season.
Speaker 1: As soon as that man, dan Quinn, as you just
Speaker 1: mentioned his name popped up, those are the two words
Speaker 1: I started throwing around. And I'm not sure if you
Speaker 1: guys truly believe what I was saying, but hey, you
Speaker 1: guys are seeing it now. Is it fair to say
Speaker 1: is it fair to say kind of you? Going back
Speaker 1: to what Heckmo was saying one man turn around, that
Speaker 1: it is a one man turnaround that dan Quinn deserves
Speaker 1: that big of a fraction of the credit. Or is
Speaker 1: it even just as simple as this is a defense
Speaker 1: that's finally healthy again with guys like Gallimore and DeMarcus Lawrence,
Speaker 1: Randy Gregory. I know Michael Parsons thrown into the fold
Speaker 1: helps that as well, but is it just is it
Speaker 1: more of a personnel change on the defensive flipper? Is
Speaker 1: it a defensive coordinator thing? Ecma, I believe wholeheartedly that
Speaker 1: is dan Quinn. And I've been, you know, just trying
Speaker 1: to wrack my brain on how one man can have
Speaker 1: the kind of impact that he's had. But culturally, just
Speaker 1: like Isaiah just mentioned, his cultural impact has been for
Speaker 1: you could see it. It's night and day from where
Speaker 1: this team was last year. I think this is the
Speaker 1: first time in a long time that I've watched the
Speaker 1: Cowboy team from top to bottom that's playing with that
Speaker 1: reckless abandon especially our defense, the way that they have
Speaker 1: been getting after teams. Now, obviously this thing didn't just
Speaker 1: change overnight, but gradually these guys have started to trend
Speaker 1: up and his impact has been it's been amazing. It's
Speaker 1: been immediate, and players that like Jeron Curse when he
Speaker 1: you know, when when Dan went out and got guys
Speaker 1: like that, you didn't think that, Okay, what kind of
Speaker 1: impact would Geron Curse have on this squad? Man a
Speaker 1: huge impact on the squad. There were names last year,
Speaker 1: Robinson at cornerback, and only reason why I bring him
Speaker 1: up because I was watching the take from last year
Speaker 1: Hill getting burnt down. But just guys that were on
Speaker 1: our squad that just obviously wouldn't have been able to
Speaker 1: play in dan quinn system. I just I love the
Speaker 1: physicality of this team. I love the way that they play,
Speaker 1: and I think that's all due to Dan Quinn. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, I think is obviously a huge part of it.
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna say it's wholeheartedly him, but he's definitely
Speaker 1: at least three quarters of this thing. There's a huge
Speaker 1: contributions list. Obviously when you start thinking about organization or
Speaker 1: football team man starting. You know, obviously Will McClay, Coach McCarthy,
Speaker 1: all these other guys that play a huge part in
Speaker 1: making sure or that they execute the drink, the thought
Speaker 1: process and the dreams that dan Quinn came in with.
Speaker 1: You know, obviously they all bought in. And yes, dan
Speaker 1: Queenn came in with this new British regime. You know,
Speaker 1: there's doing this new mindset. But it takes the remaining
Speaker 1: the other pieces on the board to actually buy in
Speaker 1: and say, okay, cool, this is the direction we're going.
Speaker 1: They didn't give him any points of resistance. They didn't
Speaker 1: say this is how we've always done it. They didn't
Speaker 1: say this is the way we feel like it should
Speaker 1: be done. They say, okay, dan Quin, what kind of
Speaker 1: support do you need? We're here to help you out
Speaker 1: in that regard, and hey, whatever you need from us,
Speaker 1: let's make it happen. Are you typing an essay? Are
Speaker 1: you typing an article while you're doing the show? I said,
Speaker 1: what was the click of the clackity of the keyboard?
Speaker 1: Was that you? Was it? Click my hands? Ah, I
Speaker 1: don't know. I heard it. I heard a clickity clackity. Heck,
Speaker 1: are you writing an article over there? I didn't know
Speaker 1: what was going on. It was funny. I'm not I'm
Speaker 1: not doing none of that, man, No, I'm not. But hey,
Speaker 1: while we're talking about this stuff, I know we don't
Speaker 1: have rap to go over the news and notes today,
Speaker 1: but I have two things that that kind of happened
Speaker 1: over the last twenty four hours and I would like
Speaker 1: to bring to the table. Let's do it, one of
Speaker 1: which will put up, yeah, a lot of one of
Speaker 1: which will put a lot of people's minds at ease
Speaker 1: and let you guys know exactly where Dan Quinn is
Speaker 1: at in terms of his commitment to the Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: He turned down the ability to go and interview with
Speaker 1: the Jacksonville Jaguars. Can we here be just anay and
Speaker 1: give a little golf flight for that? He wanted no
Speaker 1: parts of that. I'm from what I understand, there's a
Speaker 1: two week window where he can go and interview for
Speaker 1: other Jeff, you don't coach, and he said, now I'm
Speaker 1: good Jacksonville and keep that now there is I like that.
Speaker 1: That was that was great news. That was great news
Speaker 1: to see that he passed up the Jacksonville interview. But
Speaker 1: you know, hey, as as coaching vacancies that things come open,
Speaker 1: I don't think he'll turn down another. Maybe it was
Speaker 1: just Jayville being the dumpster fire that had no like. Now,
Speaker 1: y'all go ahead, keep that. I don't want that. There
Speaker 1: is a report out that he will actually interview for
Speaker 1: that job after the season is over. He just didn't
Speaker 1: want to do it while the season was still happening.
Speaker 1: It's ultimately what it was. But that's say I'm just
Speaker 1: sign right there. I'm just saying that is very important,
Speaker 1: key passive information. Hey, butau it is key. However, Shot Khan,
Speaker 1: mister Khan and Jacksonville Jaguars don't have that kind of
Speaker 1: time to be sitting around and waiting. That's a disadvantage
Speaker 1: to organizations that need to fulfill a role at the
Speaker 1: head coaching position, having to wait for some of these
Speaker 1: really good coaches that are going through the playoffs. They
Speaker 1: if they wait around it and try to interview those guys,
Speaker 1: and those guys decide not they're in the situations where
Speaker 1: their hands were tied and they don't have not even
Speaker 1: their first, second, or third choices. So, even though that
Speaker 1: might be the word out there, I don't think that
Speaker 1: Jacksonville is in a position to sit around and wait
Speaker 1: that long. It also might help out the fact that
Speaker 1: dan Quinn can sit and wait for the right opportunity.
Speaker 1: He does have to necessarily jump at a job for
Speaker 1: a head coaching position in the NFL because he knows
Speaker 1: that if he can continue doing what he's doing in Dallas,
Speaker 1: if he can continue being a fantastic coordinator like he
Speaker 1: had both with Seattle and now of course here, he's
Speaker 1: gonna get those opportunities and they're gonna be better opportunities
Speaker 1: other than Jacksonville moving forward. If you're Kellen Moore, do
Speaker 1: you have the opportunity to pass up on head coaching
Speaker 1: jobs right now? And a second part of that question,
Speaker 1: and I'll direct this to heckma first, but do you
Speaker 1: feel like Kellen Moore is ready for a head coaching
Speaker 1: job should one of those open up for him? You know,
Speaker 1: the funny thing is is that I guess I'm one
Speaker 1: of a few people that feel like Kellen Moore is
Speaker 1: If you have guys like Cliff Keysbury, the one of
Speaker 1: you know, the younger coaches that are coming into the league.
Speaker 1: That was the one thing that people questioning about them,
Speaker 1: their ability to lead a locker room full of grown millionaires.
Speaker 1: You know, I believe that Kellen Moore, although we don't
Speaker 1: know much about his personality, UM, I just feel as
Speaker 1: though it would be hard pressed for him not to
Speaker 1: be actively pursuing one of these great thirty two jobs
Speaker 1: that are out there. And I think he's ready. Man,
Speaker 1: I think he has the offense um as well. Uh
Speaker 1: that would that would compete at in the NFL, so
Speaker 1: that we're seeing right now, um, and there there are
Speaker 1: some quarterbacks and I just look at the Jacksonville opportunity.
Speaker 1: When you have a young quarterback like they have and
Speaker 1: a young team, you know, that may be ideal for him.
Speaker 1: I don't want to lose Kelly be honestly, I don't
Speaker 1: like this gives me the hevgv's just talking about him
Speaker 1: leave it. But at the same time, you know, that's
Speaker 1: that's a good problem to have. That just speaks to
Speaker 1: the talent that we have on this coaching staff. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: and I agree. I don't honestly believe that either one
Speaker 1: of those our coordinators, the Dallas Cowboys coordinators, want to leave.
Speaker 1: I truly don't. I don't think that either one of
Speaker 1: them want a head coaching position. I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: get the vibe that Keller Moore is so just like
Speaker 1: genuineeing to go ahead and just take on the leadership
Speaker 1: role of an entire NFL team. Don't don't don't see that.
Speaker 1: I also don't believe that Dan Quinn wants to rush
Speaker 1: back to the pressures of being the head coach as
Speaker 1: well when he's doing so well here as a defensive coordinator.
Speaker 1: So I don't get there. I don't get the sense
Speaker 1: that either one of those guys who going to leave,
Speaker 1: regardless of the attention that they might receive. But I
Speaker 1: do have one thing that I am kind of kind
Speaker 1: of sat about fellas. Yea, yeah, the AFC beat us again.
Speaker 1: The AFC beat us again, and they took one of
Speaker 1: one of Dallas Cowboys players yesterday. From my understanding, what
Speaker 1: a man. They Debra Broncos stole Justin Hamilton of the
Speaker 1: off the practice squad. And I'm not happy about that.
Speaker 1: Why about that at all? Why are you not happy
Speaker 1: about that he's been cut and brought back and waived
Speaker 1: and then come back, and he's kind of gone back
Speaker 1: and forth and then finally somebody picked him up off
Speaker 1: of waivers. He wasn't gonna play if these guys stay
Speaker 1: healthy at the d tackle spot, why why are you
Speaker 1: upset about it? Because he's a good player, He's a
Speaker 1: good hungry player. He plays hard, he's effective, he makes plays,
Speaker 1: and he had a big impact in that game against
Speaker 1: Denver when he when he was called to duty. So
Speaker 1: you know, not not only did Denver already beat us, right,
Speaker 1: and they feel good about that because they put out
Speaker 1: the script on how to beat the Dallas Cowboys, and
Speaker 1: now they're coming back instilling players that we might need
Speaker 1: to rely on next year because hey, let's face it,
Speaker 1: we're not retaining everybody next year. That's not good, but
Speaker 1: we don't We can worry about that in the off season,
Speaker 1: but the reality is we're not getting everybody back next year,
Speaker 1: so we're gonna take some applacement guys. There's nobody leaving
Speaker 1: at D tackle. I mean, all those other guys are
Speaker 1: young Gallimore, hill Osa, Diggi Zuoa. There you're throwing DeMarcus
Speaker 1: Lawrence on the interior. I mean, all these guys are
Speaker 1: young pieces that I feel like if there's a position
Speaker 1: to not be upset about losing a guy ad, it
Speaker 1: would probably be d Tackle Now that absolutely feel you. Man,
Speaker 1: Hamilton was a guy that was coming in the spot
Speaker 1: duty when God's was going down, and he was playing
Speaker 1: his butt off and so and not only did the
Speaker 1: Broncos coming beat us, like he said, they left what
Speaker 1: they left with one of ours scathered him out at
Speaker 1: the same time. So he did too damn bit of
Speaker 1: a job first day. But I'm with you. You know,
Speaker 1: we got players like that, and maybe you know I've
Speaker 1: heard that the whispers of maybe through the salary cap
Speaker 1: or whatever happens, that this team is gonna not look
Speaker 1: the same next year. But man, I want to live
Speaker 1: in the now, yea now where we are. But also Kyle,
Speaker 1: I just want to say this, um, as we're giving
Speaker 1: these coaches their flowers, Joe Philbin, I want to give
Speaker 1: coach Joe Philbin his flowers right now because when you
Speaker 1: go back and you watch the tape for when we
Speaker 1: were going through the loll and the running game and
Speaker 1: some of the things that was happening happening with our
Speaker 1: offensive line, man, he had the ability to rectify, uh,
Speaker 1: some of the shortcomings of our offensive line. And that's
Speaker 1: just man. Offensive line coaches are don't come a dime
Speaker 1: a dozen. And I've always believed that the fourth times
Speaker 1: played coach on your on your on your team should
Speaker 1: be your offensive line coach. You look around the league, man,
Speaker 1: and you see the impact that offensive line coaches make,
Speaker 1: and he has had a tremendous impact on this team
Speaker 1: as well. Yeah, I think his name should be on
Speaker 1: that award. He should have his name played on there
Speaker 1: for two years consecutive. You know, it should be twenty
Speaker 1: twenty one and twenty one twenty two because last year
Speaker 1: he had his hands all completely full, obviously trying to
Speaker 1: figure that thing out with the wounded offensive line that
Speaker 1: we had. And now he piggyback that with a healthy
Speaker 1: team for the most part, and he's still finding ways
Speaker 1: to address issues on the offensive front and still trying
Speaker 1: to find ways to be successful. Yeah, and he's going
Speaker 1: to get those guys to peek at the right time.
Speaker 1: I feel like that's what his whole goal, to his
Speaker 1: whole mindset is. Despite, like Heckma said, what he called
Speaker 1: the lull that middle of the season where there was
Speaker 1: a lot of revolving door and it wasn't working out necessarily.
Speaker 1: He wants those guys to be ready when it matters most.
Speaker 1: And speaking of that, Tyrant Smith limited in practice yesterday,
Speaker 1: so he has really the green light to get going
Speaker 1: again this week. And Stephen Jones talked about it, Jerry
Speaker 1: did as well. They hope that Tyrant Smither. They are
Speaker 1: very hopeful that Tyrann Smith will be back this week.
Speaker 1: All right, when we come back, let's talk about the
Speaker 1: offense again. This offense versus the Arizona defense, Arizona forcing
Speaker 1: two and a half turnovers per game on the defensive
Speaker 1: side of the football, how do the Cowboys avoid giving
Speaker 1: into that and have some success against that Cardinals defense?
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Speaker 1: You didn't pull your bible out today, heckma, it's still
Speaker 1: across the room, Kyle, I'm sorry I didn't. It's okay.
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Speaker 1: Missing Rob Pie. I know it's it's not the same
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Speaker 1: And let's talk about this Cowboys offense versus the Cardinals defense.
Speaker 1: And we mentioned it yesterday that the Cowboys offense is
Speaker 1: putting up historically good numbers at home this season. There
Speaker 1: the top offense in the league whenever they play at home,
Speaker 1: over thirty four points per game, over four hundred yards
Speaker 1: per game. And they continued that last week, of course
Speaker 1: against the Washington football team. And David Hellman actually wrote
Speaker 1: a really good article on Dallas Cowboys dot com. I
Speaker 1: encourage you to check it out. It's talking about how
Speaker 1: this week presents an opportunity to make a statement. A
Speaker 1: lot of the pushback after the fifty six fourteen win
Speaker 1: over Washington was the fact that you haven't done it
Speaker 1: against a quote unquote good team. And this is a
Speaker 1: good team, even though they're a bit banged up and
Speaker 1: they don't have DeAndre Hopkins. This is a good team
Speaker 1: in the Arizona Cardinals. So is this the best opportunity
Speaker 1: to make a statement maybe since the Kansas City Chiefs game, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: because it really hasn't been that way just because of
Speaker 1: what schedule has been handed to you the last couple
Speaker 1: of weeks. Yes, and I agree on both sides of
Speaker 1: the party. So I agree with the crowd that says
Speaker 1: Dallas Cowboys haven't beaten and destroyed anybody like that of
Speaker 1: great value. Totally get it. But I also understand if
Speaker 1: from the Dallas Cowboys perspective, it's like, Hey, we're going
Speaker 1: to play who shows up on our schedule, So don't
Speaker 1: don't don't shoot the messenger. You know, we just take
Speaker 1: care of We just knocked down the pins that that
Speaker 1: show up. So I understand it from both sides of things.
Speaker 1: And to answer your question, Kyle, Yes, this will be
Speaker 1: the next greatest opportunity, even through for the next two games,
Speaker 1: and so the greatest opportunity we have in the remainder
Speaker 1: of the season to prove that what you're doing is real,
Speaker 1: that what you have is real, that it's not a fluke,
Speaker 1: that you're not just the big bully of the the
Speaker 1: NFC West that's running around NFC's running around beating people up.
Speaker 1: This is your opportunity to show that, Hey, we shut
Speaker 1: down Kyler Murray, one of the respect backs in the league.
Speaker 1: We get shut down Zach Erst, We get shut down
Speaker 1: these guys offensively and then defensively. Some of the guys
Speaker 1: that we're gonna face. Tyren Smith, please come back to
Speaker 1: this week because we need you against Chandler Jones. We
Speaker 1: need we need our blocking against Chandler Jones because he
Speaker 1: will wreck the game and take care of him. To
Speaker 1: the Baker, one of the league's respective he's coming up
Speaker 1: in the game, Guy Murphy, and guys like that. So
Speaker 1: there's guys that can present some issues on this team,
Speaker 1: and they are a well respected organization, not even just team,
Speaker 1: a well respected organization in this league of twenty twenty one. Yeah,
Speaker 1: for me, guys, it's hard to dig us that argument
Speaker 1: about you know, saying basically, the Cowboys aren't playing anybody.
Speaker 1: You know. I watched enough football over the years to
Speaker 1: remember when the Patriots were playing the Miami Dolphins and
Speaker 1: they didn't have anybody. The Buffalo Bills didn't have anybody,
Speaker 1: you know, and nobody even questioned their plight in the
Speaker 1: AFC and how they got to the playoffs. But now
Speaker 1: with the Cowboys. The goal post is moving each and
Speaker 1: every week. We lose to the Denver Broncos, we're horrible.
Speaker 1: We lose to the Raiders, were horrible. Oh but then
Speaker 1: when we beat New Orleans that was okay, that wasn't
Speaker 1: That's an ugly win, man. I'm not going with all
Speaker 1: of that. You know, Like like you said, you play
Speaker 1: who's on your schedule. You beat who's on the field
Speaker 1: with you. And that's the job. That's the assignment that
Speaker 1: we have when we come into this game. If we
Speaker 1: win seventeen sixteen, that's gonna be critics that jump out
Speaker 1: the cake and say, oh, look at that, you're only
Speaker 1: one by one point. I don't give I don't care, right,
Speaker 1: I don't care. I want to win. I want to
Speaker 1: take it just like this all the way through the playoffs.
Speaker 1: And the thing about it is you're you're right when
Speaker 1: you when you talk about the players that they have.
Speaker 1: But guys, let's just say go back to the Raiders
Speaker 1: the Las Vegas game and Dockway Crosby. Those guys were formidable.
Speaker 1: They had sacks, they had that defense was something. You know, Look,
Speaker 1: you have to give them their respect. This is a
Speaker 1: copycat League. I expect for the Arizona Cardinals to come
Speaker 1: in here and play us exactly like other teams have
Speaker 1: played us. Now, they're a single high safety team, but
Speaker 1: they would. I mean, look, they're gonna They're gonna try
Speaker 1: and get due some two safety looks. Right as you
Speaker 1: were stating, Isaiah, Budda Baker is the key. Here is
Speaker 1: the straw, the stairs to drink for that defense. He
Speaker 1: plays down in the box. He does so many special things.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to negate the fact that they have
Speaker 1: some really special players over there, but I feel as
Speaker 1: though with the way that this offense is playing, and
Speaker 1: especially the way that the defense is playing, you know, man,
Speaker 1: this may be role killed. They may be role killed.
Speaker 1: And I'm talking about the Cardinals coming up against the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: That a hot right now season. Huh, yeah it is.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, heckma, more so than I would
Speaker 1: even say with Isaiah, because I understand you want to
Speaker 1: see it against good teams and this is your opportunity
Speaker 1: to do it. But you have a direct benchmark on
Speaker 1: how your team is improving. From Week fourteen to week sixteen.
Speaker 1: You played the same team twice in a row. Pretty much,
Speaker 1: I mean, you had the two out of three games
Speaker 1: with the same team opposite of you. One of them
Speaker 1: you dominated through the first quarter, couldn't finish. The second
Speaker 1: of them, you kept your foot on the gas all
Speaker 1: the way through, and you stomped them in the Washington
Speaker 1: football team this past week. So I want to see
Speaker 1: it against a good team. But just because you're you're
Speaker 1: winning games and these four straight wins haven't come against
Speaker 1: the quote unquote best opposition, I still want I still
Speaker 1: think that's that's something that you have to take notice of,
Speaker 1: and I think the NFL is taking notice of it,
Speaker 1: but also looking at the defense, like like Hackaman was
Speaker 1: just saying, with this Arizona team, Buddha Baker, Byron Murphy
Speaker 1: junior is having a pretty good season, Hicks in the middle.
Speaker 1: How about Isaiah Simmons, the top ten pick out of
Speaker 1: Clemson a couple of years ago, Chandler Jones. I mean,
Speaker 1: there are so many different pieces where this defense could
Speaker 1: hurt you, Isaiah. If you had to look at one
Speaker 1: of the three levels and say, whichever one scares you
Speaker 1: the most or at least worries you the most to
Speaker 1: try and slow down this Cowboys offense, which one would
Speaker 1: it be. Yeah, it's tough. I feel I feel like
Speaker 1: they have a guy at every level. This reminds me
Speaker 1: more of a Sandia who Yeah, Los Angeles Chargers, Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers type defense. I did save it, I reeled
Speaker 1: it back in. It reminds me of that defense because
Speaker 1: they have all pro at every level. They have a
Speaker 1: guy at every single level that can hurt you, but
Speaker 1: they don't have a complete unit that you're worried about.
Speaker 1: So in that sense, it gives me a sense of
Speaker 1: confidence going against these guys I do. I would say
Speaker 1: I will feel a lot more confident if Tyrn Smith
Speaker 1: is there. And that's no disrespect to and Seki has
Speaker 1: no disrespect to tern Steel Chandler Jones as he loves
Speaker 1: to write defensive ends in this game that can make plays,
Speaker 1: and then there's defensive ends in this game that that
Speaker 1: get high off of off of just making your life miserable,
Speaker 1: and he's one of those guys. He's one of those
Speaker 1: type of competitors. So he presents a problem. You start
Speaker 1: talking about Isaiah Simmons at the next level due as
Speaker 1: an athlete sixty four two hundred and forty some hot pounds,
Speaker 1: a boy runs around, he goes sideline, the sideline, he'll
Speaker 1: come downhill bust you in your face. Man problem and
Speaker 1: you go to the third level, and you got Buddha
Speaker 1: base see my U dub family. And he is a
Speaker 1: complete dog. He's he's not a big president, he's not
Speaker 1: a big guy, but he has a huge presence and
Speaker 1: he will find himself in the back half of the field.
Speaker 1: He'll find himself in the line of scrimmage. He'll time
Speaker 1: that thing up and jump over the dog on line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage like old school Roy Williams on you in
Speaker 1: a heartbeat, if if you if you give him the
Speaker 1: ability to so you have to time you change up
Speaker 1: the timing of your snap count. And then you already
Speaker 1: mentioned you going to the outside. You got Burn Murphy,
Speaker 1: a nothing you dubbed guy you dubbed is in the
Speaker 1: building conscious hope. But he's also doing a good job.
Speaker 1: He's not a shutdown corner. But they're him in Buda
Speaker 1: Bay present that they present the prisons at the line
Speaker 1: of scrimmage. That in the secondary will actually give you
Speaker 1: an opportunity to give them an opportunity game from the
Speaker 1: second from the secondary level, which I see is also
Speaker 1: a huge attribution whenever you can get that defensively. Oh,
Speaker 1: good old Isaiah boy, don't leave no meat on the ball. No, no,
Speaker 1: see the helmet. No, you see the helmet that the
Speaker 1: U dub nation heat. So, like, I agree with what
Speaker 1: you just said, but I have to take it a
Speaker 1: step further. You know, Buda Baker, his IQ, the way
Speaker 1: that he plays for a guy that's as undersized as
Speaker 1: he is, I mean, he's just special. Uh, And he's
Speaker 1: one of those guys that we have to watch for.
Speaker 1: He's changed his number three, so you may not recognize him,
Speaker 1: but he's still doing what he does. You know, Look,
Speaker 1: these guys play a three four base defense, but they
Speaker 1: always play with you know, five six guys at the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage. For the Cowboys, I think the running
Speaker 1: game is gonna be imperative. And you say, well, they
Speaker 1: got a five six man box. I still think that
Speaker 1: we have to try over these next couple of weeks
Speaker 1: to re establish our running game. I know we've seen
Speaker 1: some success, we have some things that hey, all right,
Speaker 1: those are some more things for us to build on.
Speaker 1: But a team like Arizona you have to bust them
Speaker 1: in the mouth. You have to meet their physicality. So
Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage is going to be very important.
Speaker 1: When you talk about guys like Isaiah Simmons, I think
Speaker 1: he's you know, look, I think he's a sideline the
Speaker 1: sideline guy. But what I also see from Simmons as
Speaker 1: a finesse guy, you know, I don't think he wants
Speaker 1: that the pressure that I think of Zach Martin or anybody.
Speaker 1: Nobody wants the pressure that Zach Martin will put on you.
Speaker 1: But he does a lot of running around blocks, So
Speaker 1: I think running at him, getting out to the next level,
Speaker 1: getting to the second level is gonna be important for
Speaker 1: our offensive line. Establishing a line of scrimmage. Again, it's
Speaker 1: just going to be imperative. But like you said, it's
Speaker 1: one of those things. This is one of those matchups
Speaker 1: where you know, defensively, getting big get takeaways. They are
Speaker 1: very aggressive and once they smell blood in the water man,
Speaker 1: these guys pen the ears back and come after you,
Speaker 1: and that is something we can't afford as offense. Yeah,
Speaker 1: two of these are both of these teams in the
Speaker 1: top ten are actually even the top five in terms
Speaker 1: of turnover deferential. And then you also look at top
Speaker 1: five in scoring defense top eight in a total defense allowed.
Speaker 1: I mean, this is a really, really good and very
Speaker 1: talented defensive unit. They were right there with the Cowboys
Speaker 1: in terms of the way that they've played, even despite
Speaker 1: a couple injuries on that back end. But it kind
Speaker 1: of reminds me of the conversation that we had when
Speaker 1: of course facing the Chargers that Isaiah was talking about,
Speaker 1: when also going up against the Patriots the Panthers early
Speaker 1: in the year, when you thought the Panthers were going
Speaker 1: to be more than what they were. You have to
Speaker 1: match the physic reality. We've heard that term over and
Speaker 1: over again. It's almost been like continuity. It's matching physicality.
Speaker 1: It's that other word, that other buzzword where we need
Speaker 1: to take a shot every time we hear it. But
Speaker 1: do you think the Cowboys can match that physicality? You
Speaker 1: feel like the one game of confidence hecma that they
Speaker 1: had against the Washington football team is enough to propel
Speaker 1: them into a game like this against the top ten defense,
Speaker 1: a formidable opponent, and to be able to take advantage. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think they've made some tremendous strides. You know, since
Speaker 1: the loss to the to the Broncos, where a game
Speaker 1: that they came out, they just didn't look like they
Speaker 1: were ready. And you go back to the victories versus
Speaker 1: the Washington football team, if you go back to last year,
Speaker 1: that was the one thing that made the difference in
Speaker 1: the ballgame, not only the talent level drop off at
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, but just how physical they were. And
Speaker 1: that's look, that's those are just some of the things
Speaker 1: that had to change for us in order to take
Speaker 1: the NFC East. Look, this is no matter what the
Speaker 1: the the contact level, the physicality is going to change
Speaker 1: once the playoffs start. And I know Isaiah has antecdotal
Speaker 1: account of how once the playoffs start, the physicality goes up.
Speaker 1: And this team, this team is going to have to
Speaker 1: continue to match that physicality and if you want to
Speaker 1: be dominant, and especially on our defense, you just see, man,
Speaker 1: how these guys are coming out and they're just taking
Speaker 1: team's soul away. We saw the Washington football team. They
Speaker 1: didn't want anymore. They basically quit. They wanted that clock
Speaker 1: to give us a running clock like in high school.
Speaker 1: In the second half, they could have took it. And
Speaker 1: that's just the thing, Like you say that about what
Speaker 1: we have at the excuse me, at the offensive line
Speaker 1: position and establishing the line scrimmage. Tony Pollard and Ezekiel
Speaker 1: Elliott are going to have to be running downhill this
Speaker 1: entire game. The physicality is going to have to be there.
Speaker 1: It's got to be there in the cavalry. You're gonna
Speaker 1: have to take advantage of it. We're gonna take a
Speaker 1: break to try and get Isaiah's WiFi back and up
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Speaker 1: we get a chance too. So let's try and do that,
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Speaker 1: read all right, Isaiah? Before we get into pickums, I
Speaker 1: wanted to hear your response to what Heckman was talking
Speaker 1: about in terms of the physicality matching that and how
Speaker 1: it could propel you into the playoffs. You know, the
Speaker 1: physicality in the NFL. Wanting playoffs are arrived are absolutely insane.
Speaker 1: But you know, this game is actually perfect for what
Speaker 1: Dallas needs to prepare for because of their ability. For Arizona,
Speaker 1: they play very, very fast. That's what this team is
Speaker 1: made off of. Their momentum based defense. They want to
Speaker 1: run around and hit, they want to cause issues. They'll
Speaker 1: blitz from deep into secondary to cause issues for you,
Speaker 1: and you're gonna have to make quick decisions. And that
Speaker 1: is exactly how playoff football roles. It doesn't matter if
Speaker 1: it's happening that the line of scrimmag doesn't matter it
Speaker 1: has happened at the secondary. Also, this is a great
Speaker 1: challenge for the Dallas Cowboys because their ability, their their
Speaker 1: necessity to focus on their ring game right now. Arizona
Speaker 1: does a great job of stopping the run game of
Speaker 1: opposers with their secondary players. Their cornerbacks play physical and downhill,
Speaker 1: they're gonna they're gonna be cornerback blitzing. You don't see
Speaker 1: that too often in the league anymore. But they do it,
Speaker 1: they'll shoot their cornerback inside the receivers. So the receivers,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to be the biggest challenge for them
Speaker 1: in terms of blocking and getting their man because if
Speaker 1: they receivers, if if you're receivers of your team don't
Speaker 1: block well, your running game won't get going against these guys.
Speaker 1: So in all different fastens, in terms of intensity, in
Speaker 1: terms of speed, in terms of where your eyes need
Speaker 1: to be, assignment wise, um, in terms of the assignments
Speaker 1: of the receivers, this is going to be a huge
Speaker 1: challenge for these guys and everybody. They have to check
Speaker 1: every single box otherwise he's again, this is one of
Speaker 1: those teams that can really wreck things for you. Heck no,
Speaker 1: he said, that's a high take. I mean, that's that's
Speaker 1: that's absolutely correct. And my only thing. The only thing
Speaker 1: about this game in particular is the Cowboys have to
Speaker 1: string along long, methodical drives. And you know, the best
Speaker 1: offense sometimes the best defense. You know, best defense is
Speaker 1: a good offense. Excuse is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: And if our offense is either having those long drives,
Speaker 1: what it's doing is just keeping Colin Murray over there
Speaker 1: sipping gannerade and that's what we want to do. Um,
Speaker 1: but also in his drives with touchdowns and not field goals. Uh,
Speaker 1: that's it's going to be imperative that we do that.
Speaker 1: And that's why I look at for like a mismatch
Speaker 1: of sorts. I think that Schultz could definitely feast on
Speaker 1: this defense because of the way that just what Isaiah said,
Speaker 1: they will blitz from a lot of different angles, and
Speaker 1: you're right, they will bring cornerback pressure off the edge.
Speaker 1: But where has Dak been most successful. He is the
Speaker 1: highest rated quarterback when facing a blitz. That means his
Speaker 1: ability to adapt it in process on the fly is high.
Speaker 1: And I think his safety blanket has been Shultz for
Speaker 1: a lot of these games. And so I think if
Speaker 1: there's a one on one matchup versus Schultz, he has
Speaker 1: to win. It. Is that one of the X factor
Speaker 1: matchups for you as well, Isaiah? Is there anybody else
Speaker 1: that sticks out? I'm looking at these at these receivers.
Speaker 1: I think obviously with Dak trying to get back on
Speaker 1: track last week, cover say you take a big leap
Speaker 1: forward in that regard. These receivers have a lot of
Speaker 1: pressure on them, and it's not they can't just go
Speaker 1: into this game focus on trying to you know, get
Speaker 1: off the line of scrimmage, run a good route, catch
Speaker 1: the ball. That's that's not just your assignment. This week
Speaker 1: and again I reiterated their ability to block these corners
Speaker 1: and block these safeties are gonna be a direct Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, they will have a direct effect over our
Speaker 1: Dallas's ability to be able to run the ball. And
Speaker 1: if they if they do a poor job of that,
Speaker 1: it's gonna be a long day. It's gonna be a
Speaker 1: really long day. So I'm putting a lot of pressure
Speaker 1: on these on these receiver question, Uh, Kyle, Yeah, for us, said,
Speaker 1: I said, when it comes out to like two safety
Speaker 1: high cover two versus the single high safety zone. Um,
Speaker 1: those throws that we had talked about earlier in the
Speaker 1: week that Dak has started to make and we've seen
Speaker 1: a few dimes that he's been throwing. Talk about the
Speaker 1: difference for our receivers being if they do go with
Speaker 1: that single high safety. Look, how is it gonna be
Speaker 1: the contrast between what they've seen over the last five
Speaker 1: six weeks. Yeah, the holes are different and obviously it's
Speaker 1: it's all depending on the type a route concept that
Speaker 1: you have, the route tree that you're running. But you know,
Speaker 1: typically when you have those two high safeties, there's a
Speaker 1: lot more there's a lot more room underneath. When you
Speaker 1: start talking about, you know, underneath coverage you're expecting you know,
Speaker 1: two high safety, you got two cornerbacks, two safeties deep,
Speaker 1: there's three linebackers. Typically in the middle where those three
Speaker 1: linebackers are covering all fifty three and a half yards
Speaker 1: and then that's that's a lot to ask those guys
Speaker 1: to cover as set for him unless those corners, those
Speaker 1: two those cover two corners really sit so the middle
Speaker 1: of the field is really only being covered by three guys. Now,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you drop down to a single
Speaker 1: high safety, they're really taking away that underneath and saying
Speaker 1: we're not giving you these five yard routes, We're not
Speaker 1: giving you these eight yard routes. Everything that you're gonna
Speaker 1: have to do is gonna have to be behind our
Speaker 1: second level defenders. So you're gonna have to run your
Speaker 1: routes at least twelve yards deep. And guess what it
Speaker 1: gives Dallas now the opportunity to win on the outside.
Speaker 1: So that's kind of the dare that Arizona is going
Speaker 1: to try to present the Dallas and say, we don't
Speaker 1: think that you guys gonna could beat us on an
Speaker 1: outside man a man, you know, we're gonna step up
Speaker 1: in your face. I'm gonna put hands on you, you know,
Speaker 1: like like a old nation, right, gonna putting the Hondas
Speaker 1: on you at the line of scrimmage, and dare you
Speaker 1: to throw the ball outside, And we're gonna try to
Speaker 1: make sure that we sit on your inside shade and
Speaker 1: force all your routes to the sideline. We're gonna try
Speaker 1: to negate your ability to run anything interior wise, and
Speaker 1: if you do want to run it on the inside,
Speaker 1: because we're running single high safety, it's gonna have to
Speaker 1: be ten twelve yards down the field, which gives who
Speaker 1: Chandler Jones, Isaiah Simmons those guys at the time they
Speaker 1: need to try to get in the backfield. I absolutely
Speaker 1: love it, and I love the inside about what this
Speaker 1: could look like because normally when we talk about that
Speaker 1: kind of exs and O stuff, we didn't turn around
Speaker 1: on Sunday and we see it happening almost instantly, So
Speaker 1: let's see if you can predict as well on the
Speaker 1: field as you are in the results of these games, Isaiah,
Speaker 1: because I don't have the standings updates, but I do
Speaker 1: know that you are currently bringing up the rear still,
Speaker 1: so we'll let you go first on this one. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm gonna type of individual that likes to
Speaker 1: have each other's back, you know. I want to make
Speaker 1: sure our secure things and make sure and my guys
Speaker 1: are good. I like to see you just like when
Speaker 1: I'm eating with my family, I like to have my
Speaker 1: I don't like my back turn to the door. It's
Speaker 1: the same way, you know. I'd like to make sure
Speaker 1: that Joe he loves being the caboost. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: it is. That's what I just heard. Hacma, That's exactly
Speaker 1: what I just heard. All right, I've got I've got
Speaker 1: six games here. I'm gonna put the fans vote on Twitter,
Speaker 1: So follow me at Kyle Underscore Yeomans. I'm gonna tweet
Speaker 1: out Poles and whatever the percentage Pole gets, it's gonna
Speaker 1: be a true fan represented week here on Talking Cowboys,
Speaker 1: and that will be the official pick of the fans.
Speaker 1: All right, let's start with the Rams at the Ravens.
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips has already sent me all of his picks,
Speaker 1: so I'll just throw his out there first whenever we
Speaker 1: come around. But the Ravens is who he picked in
Speaker 1: that one, and we'll go with Hack my first. Rams
Speaker 1: at Ravens, Yes, sir, Yeah, both teams eat that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the I'm gonna go with the Los
Speaker 1: Angeles Rams. I'm gonna go with the Rams as well.
Speaker 1: Isaiah going with Sheep the Sheep, all right, Chiefs at
Speaker 1: the Bengals. Rob picked the Chiefs. Who do you guys
Speaker 1: have We'll start with Isaiah. You know what. I'm going
Speaker 1: with Casey oh Man, Bengals playing well. Joe Burrow, Joe
Speaker 1: Burrow hot right now, boy, But I'm going to see
Speaker 1: ain't crazy. I'm crazy. I'm gonna go with the Bengals
Speaker 1: at home. I think they get a big win in
Speaker 1: Kansas City's win. Street comes to a close, so I'm
Speaker 1: gonna take the I'm taking Cincinnati, all right. NFC East
Speaker 1: battle the Philadelphia Eagles on the road against the struggling
Speaker 1: Washington football team. I'm gonna take the Eagles on the road.
Speaker 1: As they continue to push toward the playoffs, and it'll
Speaker 1: be another tough matchup again in week eighteen for the Cowboys. Isaiah,
Speaker 1: who you got, chief steak Man? I go, Can I
Speaker 1: just take a mulligan on? No, just gotta pick one
Speaker 1: of the two. You have to you know, you go ahead.
Speaker 1: I know you you don't want to say the guard,
Speaker 1: but you gotta say, just say something else like I did.
Speaker 1: All Right, I'll go with the Green team. The Green team. Okay,
Speaker 1: so not the Washington football team. It's the Philadelphia Green team. Uh.
Speaker 1: Rob also picked the Eagles as well. Let's go with
Speaker 1: the Bears at home against the Giants in this this
Speaker 1: could be a low scoring game. New York and Chicago
Speaker 1: rank bottom five and points per game this season. Heck,
Speaker 1: one will start with you, all right, you said it
Speaker 1: was you broke up. You said, Bears at Giants, Bears
Speaker 1: hosting the Giants. So Giants at Bears, Bears. So okay?
Speaker 1: Uh And oh god, I think that's a horrible game.
Speaker 1: The club. I want to go with Bears Isaiah nineteen
Speaker 1: eighty five. Ah, the Bears. Okay, I'm gonna go with
Speaker 1: the Bears too. It's a Bears across the board, because
Speaker 1: that's who Rob Phillips pick as well, and then our
Speaker 1: final non Cowboys game, the Browns on the road against
Speaker 1: the Steelers. Pittsburgh has won three of their last four
Speaker 1: against the Browns as they continue to struggle as well.
Speaker 1: Rob picked the Steelers. I'm gonna pick the Browns. Heck,
Speaker 1: but who you got? That's gonna be a tough divisional
Speaker 1: matchup and I'm gonna go with the Brownies. They gotta
Speaker 1: get a rebound, Nick Chubbs, you just don't like saying
Speaker 1: team names, do you, guys? Aah? That's all it is.
Speaker 1: You just don't want to say the actual team name. Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, Final games, final game. We're pick in
Speaker 1: this week, and it's the one everybody wants to hear about.
Speaker 1: It's the Cardinals at the Cowboys. Arizona's won four or
Speaker 1: excuse me, five of their last six against Dallas, but
Speaker 1: they've lost three straight coming into this one. The Cowboys
Speaker 1: have won four straight. And our ring on all cylinders,
Speaker 1: each team already locked into the playoffs. We'll start with
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips. He goes thirty four twenty eight. Cowboys get
Speaker 1: the dub at home at AT and T Stadium, a
Speaker 1: one possession football game. Isaiah, who you got, Let's go
Speaker 1: thirty seven thirty four Cowboys. Oh? I thought you were
Speaker 1: gonna say Cardinals right there. I thought that was gonna
Speaker 1: be a delayed Christmas tree game. What what's going on?
Speaker 1: I mean, you got all your you dub guys over there.
Speaker 1: You mean to tell me you're gonna go with That's
Speaker 1: that's shocking. That's shocking. That shows the confidence level that
Speaker 1: Isaiah has in this ball club. Yeah, all right, what
Speaker 1: about myself? Coyle? What's you guy? I'll go Cowboys. Thirty
Speaker 1: one twenty one is my score. I think the defense
Speaker 1: plays exceptionally well. I think it's actually like thirty one
Speaker 1: fourteen until late, and then the Cardinals get a late
Speaker 1: touchdown and then that's about it. But I think thirty
Speaker 1: one twenty one is the final score when all things
Speaker 1: are done at at and T Stadium. HECKMA, no feeling
Speaker 1: good about this matchup. I think everybody in Cowboy Nation
Speaker 1: should be feeling good about this matchup as well. I'm
Speaker 1: feeling like the Cowboys will win this game. It'll be close,
Speaker 1: but twenty four thirteen thirteen is my final school A
Speaker 1: little low scoring matchup. I like it a little different
Speaker 1: from heck Ma, Harrison. But that's gonna do it here
Speaker 1: for us here on talking Cowboys this week. Hope you
Speaker 1: had some fun. We'll be back on Monday to break
Speaker 1: it all down. Everybody, have a very safe and happy
Speaker 1: New Year's. Let's bring in twenty twenty two the right way,
Speaker 1: and of course, hopefully the Cowboys get to win on
Speaker 1: Sunday as well. For Chris Beam, for Rob Phillips, for
Speaker 1: Isaiah Stamback, heck Ma, Harrison, I'm Kyle Yeoman saying so long. Heckma.
Speaker 1: What do we say on say? Or what's your chest? Thursday?
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