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Speaker 1: Welcome into the lounge presented by Draft Kings. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: take the deep dive into the Ravens twenty to ten

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Speaker 1: win over the Los Angeles Chargers on Sunda Night Football.

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Speaker 1: Garrett's back.

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Speaker 2: I'm back.

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Speaker 1: Did you get some sleep, buddy.

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Speaker 2: I'll tell you what it was. I was like thrown

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Speaker 2: off all day on Monday because I was like, what

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Speaker 2: day is it? We landed? You know, just so listeners know,

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Speaker 2: a lot of times people don't know how the travel

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Speaker 2: necessarily works. So the game ans, we head straight to

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Speaker 2: the airport, we head back into the interviews. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: did the interviews. And then about an hour ninety minutes

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Speaker 2: after the game ends, the buses leave. You go straight

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Speaker 2: to the airport and you fly home. And so the

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Speaker 2: plane landed at six fifteen in Baltimore. So I'm driving

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Speaker 2: home and rush hour traffic. I get home.

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Speaker 1: It's the morning routine.

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Speaker 2: With the county. Get home. Morning routine is in face.

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Speaker 1: You have the diaper there.

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Speaker 2: Morning routine is in full swing. But yeah, whenever wherever

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Speaker 2: the team plays, London, Los Angeles, whatever the time, the

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Speaker 2: game is. As soon as that game ends, you're back

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Speaker 2: on the plane. And then you headed right back to Baltimore,

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Speaker 2: and honestly, like these coaches and stuff, like, they come

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Speaker 2: right in here a lot of times.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, they literally don't get any sleep.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they come right in here and just onto the

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Speaker 2: next day breaking down the film. Yeah, so a little

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Speaker 2: bit asleep, but I feel refresh today, much better today.

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Speaker 1: Glad to have you back, all right, So now you're

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Speaker 1: ready to take the deep dive here. And obviously great

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Speaker 1: defensive game for the Ravens, so we got to start there.

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Speaker 1: Kyle Hamilton, Yes, I mean, the guy's been playing well

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Speaker 1: all season long. But I know you weren't really watching

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Speaker 1: the broadcast like I was, but they were raving about

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Speaker 1: him on the Sunday night football broadcast. He's certainly charmed

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Speaker 1: that whole crew, it seems like before the great game,

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Speaker 1: and then he backed it up with an amazing game.

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Speaker 1: And really, when I look at the film, Garrett, this

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Speaker 1: was case in point of the do it all versatility

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Speaker 1: of Kyle Hamilton. Tackle for loss, runs through keenan Allen's face,

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Speaker 1: makes a tackle for loss early in the first quarter.

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Speaker 1: Then he runs with Geiton one of their Jalen Guiden,

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Speaker 1: who by the way, runs in the four threes. Yeah, right.

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Speaker 1: Both guys are running exactly the same top speed according

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Speaker 1: to the next Gen So that's nineteen miles per hour

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Speaker 1: over nineteen miles prier nineteen point six, both running the

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Speaker 1: same exact speed that deep down the field to uh

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Speaker 1: get a pass deflection on that one. Yeah, then another

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Speaker 1: tackle for loss, this time alone keenan Allen. Kyle Hamilton

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Speaker 1: is put on a show about his ability to do

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Speaker 2: I mean, look, I think this game was an example of, honestly,

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Speaker 2: what we've been seeing from Kyle over the course of

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Speaker 2: this entire season, the do it all ability that you're mentioning.

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Speaker 2: He can play in the box, he can play deep,

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Speaker 2: he can do all that. I just think that and

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Speaker 2: what I think that is really stands about it stands

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Speaker 2: out about this game is that it's a primetime game,

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Speaker 2: so you get the national stage. And I was glad

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Speaker 2: to see the buzz kind of starting Pro Bowl. All

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Speaker 2: pro you'd like those words started getting thrown out on

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Speaker 2: a train is rolling like that's where the conversation around

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Speaker 2: him is going. And little plug here. Pro Bowl voting

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Speaker 2: open this week, So start voting for Kyle Hamilton for

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Speaker 2: the Pro Bowl, because he absolutely deserves it, but I

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Speaker 2: And honestly, like I go back to when the Ravens

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Speaker 2: this is it. Like, it's a guy who can play

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Speaker 2: anywhere on this defense. He's a position this player, He's

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Speaker 2: He can make tackles in the backfield, like this is

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Speaker 2: the perfect scenario for what you envision Kyle Hamilton being.

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Speaker 2: And it's kind of like, how did he get to fourteen?

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Speaker 2: How did he vallot to fourteen?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah? I think what's interesting I'd be interested to

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Speaker 1: I can be, I can be anywhere on the field,

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Speaker 1: and this is just who I am. Because he's showing

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Speaker 1: too his deep coverage. He has the he's getting the

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Speaker 1: part of the whole he's blossoming. I mean, the swagger,

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Speaker 1: you know, I mean after the first tackle philosophy did

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Speaker 2: I do when I wash you when we play, you

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Speaker 2: know in the fieldhouse, and I go up there and

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Speaker 2: just satch.

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Speaker 1: That was a decade ago, my friend lost you. That

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Speaker 1: was before either of us had children. I don't know

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Speaker 1: if you know this, but you can't get more than

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Speaker 2: Big boy, I still got the hops. I still got

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Speaker 1: You give me the too small. Well, when you're Kyle

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Speaker 1: Hounson's size, I mean pretty much everybody's just too small

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Speaker 1: for you. Yes, so uh, I mean to see that.

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Speaker 1: Then he did like the big the chech celebration when

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Speaker 1: he took down Keenan Allen for attack for loss. It's

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Speaker 1: been fun to also watch him kind of play with

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Speaker 1: more swagger. You know, he's known as he's a Notre

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Speaker 2: Of it now. Yeah, he's playing that way. I think

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Speaker 2: Chris Hewett I give him the quote of the week

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Speaker 2: on Kyle Hamilton. He said, don't let the baby face

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Speaker 2: fool you. He'll try to rip your face off, like

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Speaker 2: that's how he plays the game. And and you mentioned

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Speaker 2: the production meetings that he had with the NBC crew.

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Speaker 2: Clearly he charmed them. He came in talking about Lebron

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Speaker 2: seemed like the crew certainly had some fun with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. But I mean, Kyle's a sharp dude. He's a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's fun to talk to and I think that.

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Speaker 2: kind of fees off of that. And like, I'll be

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Speaker 2: a whole, it's hard to it's hard to argue that

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Speaker 2: Kyle Hamilton hasn't been maybe the best one of one

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Speaker 2: of the best defensive players on this team. Yea, But yeah,

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Speaker 2: you can make a case for Kyle.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would agree with that. Two other guys who

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Speaker 1: and Patrick Queen got the highest Pro Football Focus grade

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Speaker 2: Well, the play that was probably the most fun to

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Speaker 2: this tandem screen that the two of them blew up

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Speaker 2: It just blew up that screen together and it's like,

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, there's a great photo of that one too.

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Speaker 2: But the Ravens weren't giving up the big play. That

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Speaker 2: Like it's not often that Austin Eckler, yeah, is fumbling.

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Speaker 1: Oftentimes guys are punching at the ball and ripping and

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Speaker 1: But the Ravens were hitting. They were hitting pretty darn hard.

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Speaker 1: But sure, I agree fumble recoveries though, for the Ravens

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Speaker 1: to get all of them, all three of them, you know,

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Speaker 1: The game's done. We beat the Browns, right, so sometimes

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Speaker 1: it just doesn't bounce your way. Literally, for the Ravens

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Speaker 1: to get all three of those is pretty pretty incredible.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they had a day. They had a day.

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Speaker 1: the tape from this pass rush is a lot of moves, right,

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Speaker 1: and I think it's Chuck Smith, the Ravens first year

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Speaker 1: thought it was pretty interesting. Anthony Weaver said he holds

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Speaker 1: use the tools in the toolbox. Yeah right, This is

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Speaker 1: Empty the toolbox. And that's what I see when I

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Speaker 2: Basically, I'm not taking anything away from art.

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Speaker 1: Basically a sack, yeah, to close out the game. Garrett.

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Speaker 2: So you take your nose tackle, you drop him in coverage.

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Speaker 1: In that moment we played, he played seven defensive snaps,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Hi, usage rate there, very good percentages exactly.

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Speaker 2: like he played at a pretty high level.

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Speaker 1: He's had games where certainly he's they've been really strong

434
00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,240
Speaker 1: games like.

435
00:19:27,240 --> 00:19:29,000
Speaker 2: He's been he's been, He's played at a high level

436
00:19:29,200 --> 00:19:30,800
Speaker 2: prior to this injury, and then this has been the

437
00:19:30,840 --> 00:19:32,920
Speaker 2: kind of in and out with this thing, and so

438
00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 2: you hope that this he can basically get healthy, and

439
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:38,879
Speaker 2: I think that this will give him the opportunity to

440
00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:39,119
Speaker 2: do that.

441
00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:42,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, agreed, Uh so that that was part of the issue.

442
00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,000
Speaker 1: I think. I thought on third down a couple plays

443
00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 1: with Lamar's kind of running for his life, trying to

444
00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:48,080
Speaker 1: make plays happen. Try to heave that long when the

445
00:19:48,119 --> 00:19:49,760
Speaker 1: Zay Flowers that went in complete.

446
00:19:49,480 --> 00:19:52,280
Speaker 2: And it is worth I mean, Max a great player, yes, so.

447
00:19:53,880 --> 00:19:56,640
Speaker 1: One of the best of the game. Absolutely. I thought

448
00:19:56,800 --> 00:19:59,560
Speaker 1: running the ball, they weren't as good in short yardage

449
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,200
Speaker 1: situation running the ball as they have been near the

450
00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:04,240
Speaker 1: end of the game. Just I thought a lack of

451
00:20:04,359 --> 00:20:06,879
Speaker 1: kind of finishing urgency is what it looked like to

452
00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 1: me on film. The drive before the z Flowers touchdown

453
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,560
Speaker 1: need a little bit more urgency finished than that. It

454
00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:13,119
Speaker 1: was a Justice Hill run that should have popped for

455
00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,639
Speaker 1: a first out and didn't. Another one was the fourth

456
00:20:15,680 --> 00:20:19,080
Speaker 1: down wildcat to direct snap to Gus Edwards looking at

457
00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 1: that when it looked like Gus tried to bounce that

458
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,119
Speaker 1: outside when he should have taken it inside. It was

459
00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,800
Speaker 1: a pretty good block by Ben Cleveland. He had that

460
00:20:25,000 --> 00:20:27,920
Speaker 1: that was there. You know, the Ravens talk to Todd.

461
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: Monkin talked about that play on Monday and said, just

462
00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,159
Speaker 1: it wasn't going the right way from the start. We

463
00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,560
Speaker 1: didn't get the substitutions. It was quick that it should

464
00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:37,199
Speaker 1: have been a first down on the spot probably all

465
00:20:37,320 --> 00:20:39,320
Speaker 1: that stuff, but they should have still had it when

466
00:20:39,359 --> 00:20:42,560
Speaker 1: you look back on film, and that's a rare miss

467
00:20:42,680 --> 00:20:45,080
Speaker 1: I think from Gus, especially in short yardage. You don't

468
00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,440
Speaker 1: see him get stuffed very often.

469
00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah. He also Don Monkin mentioned that he was a

470
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 2: little deep. Yeah, on that play. You know, I think

471
00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:54,360
Speaker 2: that that one. It's hard to you got to look

472
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:57,440
Speaker 2: at that play in conjunction with the third down play,

473
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Speaker 2: which was that that one was where Lamar went out

474
00:21:00,760 --> 00:21:03,080
Speaker 2: of bounds. The NBC showed the replay, Well, that was.

475
00:21:03,080 --> 00:21:04,680
Speaker 1: When he almost got stepped on and then made magic

476
00:21:04,720 --> 00:21:05,160
Speaker 1: out of nothing.

477
00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, he did. He did make some magic there, but

478
00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:10,960
Speaker 2: you know that, and he goes, he runs to the sidelines,

479
00:21:11,000 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 2: goes out of bounds right around the first down marker.

480
00:21:12,960 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 2: They ruled him short, and the NBC crew comes back

481
00:21:15,520 --> 00:21:17,159
Speaker 2: and says, you know, the Raven should have challenge that.

482
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,600
Speaker 2: John Harball did come back and say on Monday, when

483
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 2: they looked at that, they're not sure that they would

484
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 2: have won that.

485
00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,160
Speaker 1: And I agree when I looked at it on a film,

486
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 1: I'm not positive about that.

487
00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's really hard. A couple points of note there,

488
00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 2: Like one, I don't know that everybody knows this, Like

489
00:21:32,640 --> 00:21:34,960
Speaker 2: the ball goes out of bounds where it crosses the

490
00:21:35,000 --> 00:21:37,680
Speaker 2: white line. So like even if you stretch out and

491
00:21:37,760 --> 00:21:39,879
Speaker 2: that's kind of what happened on this play, Lamar ends

492
00:21:39,960 --> 00:21:42,080
Speaker 2: up kind of reaching, but at that point the ball

493
00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:44,199
Speaker 2: is over the white line, even though his feet are

494
00:21:44,240 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: still in bounds. You don't get that reach, right, You

495
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,640
Speaker 2: don't get that reach past the pylon if the ball

496
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 2: is already out of bounce at that point, even if

497
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:53,399
Speaker 2: you have not yet stepped out of bounce. And so

498
00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,800
Speaker 2: when you like look at the freeze frame, you're like, oh,

499
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,199
Speaker 2: the ball is clearly passed. Well, when you look at

500
00:21:58,240 --> 00:22:01,960
Speaker 2: like the overhead angle and you look at the whole picture,

501
00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,840
Speaker 2: it's not necessarily it was really really tight. And then

502
00:22:06,840 --> 00:22:08,159
Speaker 2: the other part of that too, like the call in

503
00:22:08,160 --> 00:22:10,479
Speaker 2: the field was short, and so you need the whole thing.

504
00:22:10,560 --> 00:22:13,960
Speaker 2: You need convincing video evidence. And those are really difficult

505
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: to overturn because you're just talking about angles. Those are

506
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 2: unlikely ones.

507
00:22:17,600 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 1: You usually don't have the perfect camera angle.

508
00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:21,960
Speaker 2: It just is like there's just so many factors you

509
00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 2: need it like synced up from multiple views, like the

510
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: angle can distort what it looks.

511
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:29,000
Speaker 1: Like right now. The Nelson aguil A one absolutely.

512
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,080
Speaker 2: Should have been a first down, that should have been

513
00:22:30,080 --> 00:22:31,520
Speaker 2: a first time, should be ruled a first down on

514
00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:33,720
Speaker 2: the field. Should have challenged that one and got the

515
00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:36,879
Speaker 2: first down there. That was different. John Harbaugh said, Basically

516
00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:39,000
Speaker 2: they just everyone thought it was a first down.

517
00:22:39,119 --> 00:22:40,479
Speaker 1: Tom Munkins, It was so obvious.

518
00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 2: They were like everyone, the coaches, players, they were like,

519
00:22:43,320 --> 00:22:44,879
Speaker 2: that was all right, first down, here we go. And

520
00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:47,040
Speaker 2: then they called basically their first down play only to

521
00:22:47,119 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 2: realize that it was fourth down.

522
00:22:48,600 --> 00:22:50,800
Speaker 1: We talking about the referee where he's pointing, I don't

523
00:22:50,800 --> 00:22:52,920
Speaker 1: know what that means. You're pointing down to the ground.

524
00:22:53,200 --> 00:22:54,680
Speaker 1: Does that mean it's the first down? I don't know.

525
00:22:54,920 --> 00:22:58,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was really and like and Monken took responsibility

526
00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 2: on that too, Like Monk was like, I gotta realized that, Like, look,

527
00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:02,000
Speaker 2: I thought it was first down, but I can't. I

528
00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 2: got to realize that it wasn't. And basically, I mean

529
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:06,960
Speaker 2: Munkin said at point blank, like he calls the play

530
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:08,840
Speaker 2: and then realizes all of a sudden, now it's fourth down.

531
00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,479
Speaker 2: He's like, what what just happened? He has more colorful

532
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:14,159
Speaker 2: language than it in there that I did, but it

533
00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 2: just caught them off guards. So that's just kind of

534
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,680
Speaker 2: a breakdown on the challenges there, which I know was

535
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:19,800
Speaker 2: a big talking point in this game.

536
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, another thing I want to talk about here. The

537
00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 1: big talking point going into the game was Mark Andrews

538
00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:28,879
Speaker 1: being out and what does this Ravens offense look like

539
00:23:29,000 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 1: without Mark Andrews? And part of the conversation coming out

540
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:34,200
Speaker 1: of the game was did they really miss Mark Andrews

541
00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,440
Speaker 1: on third down? And to be honest, that's not really

542
00:23:36,520 --> 00:23:38,560
Speaker 1: what I saw. I mean, it's of course you miss him.

543
00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:40,640
Speaker 1: You miss him on first and second down too, right,

544
00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 1: But it wasn't like I thought on third down when

545
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,119
Speaker 1: I was looking at the different situations that it was like,

546
00:23:46,840 --> 00:23:50,280
Speaker 1: Lamar doesn't have anywhere to go, he doesn't trust his targets.

547
00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:53,520
Speaker 2: That's not what I really saw. I thought that in

548
00:23:53,600 --> 00:23:56,640
Speaker 2: the first half. I liked the way that Odell got involved.

549
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:58,920
Speaker 2: I liked some of the catch it run by Isa

550
00:23:59,280 --> 00:24:01,480
Speaker 2: likely had a nice catch over the middle.

551
00:24:01,800 --> 00:24:02,399
Speaker 1: I liked all that.

552
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,880
Speaker 2: I thought there were moments in the second half where

553
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:08,639
Speaker 2: Lamar was under duressed and not seem fully comfortable, and

554
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:10,679
Speaker 2: it would have been sure nice to have Mark Andrews

555
00:24:10,720 --> 00:24:12,520
Speaker 2: for fifteen yards over the middle of the field, for sure,

556
00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:14,440
Speaker 2: I thought. I think that there was points in the

557
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:15,840
Speaker 2: second half where I felt like.

558
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:18,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know, that's interesting. I don't think that

559
00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 1: was just the third down problem though.

560
00:24:20,160 --> 00:24:22,119
Speaker 2: No, it's not just a third down problem. I just mean, like,

561
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 2: when the offense is kind of sputtering in that second

562
00:24:24,480 --> 00:24:27,119
Speaker 2: half and you needed somebody to settle things down and

563
00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:30,240
Speaker 2: make a play. I would have loved the fifteen yard

564
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:33,800
Speaker 2: to Mark Andrews him, get up, look mad, give me

565
00:24:33,880 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: the first down point, come back to the huddle, say

566
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 2: give me the ball. I would have loved that. I

567
00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:38,800
Speaker 2: would have loved that from Mark.

568
00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,960
Speaker 1: I completely agree there's no replacing Mark in that attitude

569
00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:44,560
Speaker 1: and everything that he brings. I will say this that

570
00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:47,480
Speaker 1: I think when you look at the tape, you see

571
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,479
Speaker 1: the different dimension that Isaiah likely can bring this offense.

572
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,160
Speaker 1: He's just faster than Mark. He just is. He's got

573
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:57,439
Speaker 1: a little bit more wiggle. He's just a little bit

574
00:24:57,560 --> 00:24:59,720
Speaker 1: He's a different athlete than Mark is. And that's not

575
00:24:59,800 --> 00:25:02,560
Speaker 1: the take anything away from Mark. Mark's a big, powerful

576
00:25:02,760 --> 00:25:05,120
Speaker 1: I think Todd Monkin described him as a bull. That's

577
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: a great description from Mark. But I'm not going to

578
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,639
Speaker 1: go as far as to say that Isaiah likely is

579
00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:13,840
Speaker 1: a cheetah. But he's faster than a bull. What's what's

580
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:14,920
Speaker 1: I don't know why.

581
00:25:15,040 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 2: I gotta get a zoologist here on the horn.

582
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:20,879
Speaker 1: What do we got? There's got to be something faster?

583
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 1: What do you get, Bracon? A jaguar? All right, we'll

584
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: give Isaiah likely is a jaguar. He's not when we

585
00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:35,480
Speaker 1: play the Jaguars now Poova. You know, there's just so

586
00:25:35,640 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: I do think that that opens up some more possibilities.

587
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:39,520
Speaker 1: You know, there was a tight end screen that we've

588
00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,919
Speaker 1: talked about how the Ravens screen game has not been

589
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,680
Speaker 1: very effective. They threw one out to Isaiah likely look

590
00:25:44,720 --> 00:25:48,359
Speaker 1: pretty darn good guys hurtling over defender at the end

591
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,239
Speaker 1: of it. Did a cartwheel at the end of one

592
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 1: of the like he can pick up yards after catch

593
00:25:53,720 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 1: with his legs by making defenders miss, and he's pretty slippery,

594
00:25:56,560 --> 00:25:59,639
Speaker 1: whereas Mark's just gonna run through your shoulder, through your face.

595
00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:05,680
Speaker 1: I do think that it allows that speed upgrade kind

596
00:26:05,720 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 1: of at tight end, allows you to do some different

597
00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:08,760
Speaker 1: things at tight end.

598
00:26:08,800 --> 00:26:11,400
Speaker 2: Well, I think I think the way with Mark, there's

599
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:16,399
Speaker 2: two areas where Mark is just the difference maker. One

600
00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:18,600
Speaker 2: is on the broken place. That's evident. We've talked about

601
00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 2: that a million times. The connection with Lamar is second ten.

602
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:23,399
Speaker 1: And I thought that it was interesting that T Martin

603
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,560
Speaker 1: talked today about how he has said to Lamar, you

604
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,440
Speaker 1: got to put in extra time with some of these

605
00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: guys on broken place and aarreas like, you got to

606
00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:33,760
Speaker 1: put in the equity to get better at that stuff.

607
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,480
Speaker 1: It's not going to just happen like it built up

608
00:26:35,560 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: over time with Mark Andrews. You're going to have to,

609
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: in practice spent extra time doing broken play kind of

610
00:26:40,520 --> 00:26:42,080
Speaker 1: stuff with these other guys to get to that level

611
00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:42,360
Speaker 1: with them.

612
00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:44,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, it takes time, and so I think that that

613
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 2: was a really interesting point.

614
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 1: Trying to speed it up.

615
00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's like crash course right now. And then the

616
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:52,159
Speaker 2: other thing with Mark is a contest to catch, Like

617
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 2: he's his ability to make the contest to catch a

618
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:56,840
Speaker 2: second to none. And that's where I actually look to

619
00:26:56,960 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 2: like the Odell Bateman as where they can really step

620
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 2: in on that realm, which they did, which they did

621
00:27:03,160 --> 00:27:04,879
Speaker 2: in this game. Yes, and so I think that like

622
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 2: it's kind of going back to how it's an all

623
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,520
Speaker 2: hands on deck effort. I think that that is where

624
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:12,040
Speaker 2: the Ravens that we saw that in this game.

625
00:27:12,320 --> 00:27:14,879
Speaker 1: Likely it's more of a space player he is. Get

626
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:16,520
Speaker 1: him the ball in space and he can make some

627
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:19,479
Speaker 1: guys miss and pick up extra yards. I like him

628
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:20,960
Speaker 1: that right, and that we have it.

629
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:22,760
Speaker 2: There wasn't really the opportunity for him to make like

630
00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 2: the tough contested catch, like that's.

631
00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:26,960
Speaker 1: What he's got to prove. He dropped one against the

632
00:27:27,040 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: Colts that could have won the game. That's what Isaiah's

633
00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: got approved, is he's going to make that tight contested

634
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:31,720
Speaker 1: catch yep.

635
00:27:31,760 --> 00:27:33,880
Speaker 2: All right, So then one last point on the offense.

636
00:27:34,280 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 2: Keaton Mitchell, he got the start Yep, he opens the

637
00:27:37,760 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 2: game and he basically he took the majority of snaps. Yeah,

638
00:27:40,440 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: he was more involved in this offense. And we've seen

639
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:44,960
Speaker 2: since he has kind of come onto the scene that

640
00:27:45,040 --> 00:27:46,800
Speaker 2: the Ravens are adding more and more to his plate.

641
00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:48,680
Speaker 2: This was the most that he's had to get to date.

642
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,400
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think that the Ravens are really gonna ready

643
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:55,359
Speaker 1: to unleash him down the stretch. And speaking of stretch,

644
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:58,159
Speaker 1: I think that his speed element and we saw it

645
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: in this game. The speed of he and Zay Flowers,

646
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 1: the two rookies have really has really changed this offense

647
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: and the ability to stretch defenses horizontally use the entire

648
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: width of the field. You saw that in this game.

649
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,680
Speaker 1: Keith Mitchell did almost all of his damage turn in

650
00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: the corner. And there's not a defense or a defender

651
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: that he can't turn the corner on. A linebacker that's

652
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: going to beat him to the edge. It ain't happening, buddy,

653
00:28:20,680 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: And that I think is has definitely brought another element

654
00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: to this offense. And then you talk about Zay Flowers

655
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,440
Speaker 1: doing the same thing. Jets sweep touchdown, you over commit

656
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:32,719
Speaker 1: to that. If you don't play that jets sweep just right,

657
00:28:32,760 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: if you're the guy assigned to following him across the

658
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,920
Speaker 1: motion and tackling him, if you don't play it exactly right,

659
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:39,400
Speaker 1: he's gone.

660
00:28:39,560 --> 00:28:39,760
Speaker 2: Yeah.

661
00:28:40,080 --> 00:28:43,120
Speaker 1: And so those two guys, I think their speed to

662
00:28:43,200 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 1: the perimeter, We're going to see more of that down

663
00:28:46,200 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: the stretch for sure.

664
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,440
Speaker 2: And all these things build off of each other. So

665
00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:50,960
Speaker 2: now if you're committing all these resources to stopping, say

666
00:28:51,000 --> 00:28:53,320
Speaker 2: and keating on the edge, well there's your Isaiah likely

667
00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:54,959
Speaker 2: over the middle who has catched the ball and has

668
00:28:55,000 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: nothing but green grass in front of him.

669
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,239
Speaker 1: That's what the Ravens did against the Browns so well

670
00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: in their first matchup against the Browns wasnt of because

671
00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,640
Speaker 1: of what the Ravens is set up against the Houston

672
00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: Texans when they were quick stuff to say, quick stuff

673
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,880
Speaker 1: to say. Now you're putting him in jet sweep motions

674
00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 1: all day and they're over committing to that in the

675
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:12,840
Speaker 1: middle of the fields wide open. So it all plays,

676
00:29:12,920 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 1: it all feeds into each other.

677
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, and they just last down Keaton Mitchell. John Harball

678
00:29:17,600 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 2: did talk this week like they're just adding to his plate,

679
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 2: like he's this is a young guy who undrafted rookie,

680
00:29:26,040 --> 00:29:28,400
Speaker 2: starts to year hurt, and they're just continuing to add

681
00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,200
Speaker 2: to his plate. So I think that your point about

682
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: unleashing him, I think we're going to just see more

683
00:29:32,400 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 2: and more of him over the course of this these

684
00:29:34,800 --> 00:29:37,040
Speaker 2: final six games for the regular season.

685
00:29:37,120 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: Yep. And the last thing we want to talk about

686
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:41,360
Speaker 1: from the game Justin Tucker. This is a forty four

687
00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:44,680
Speaker 1: yarder probably the most shocking thing that happened in the game. Yeah,

688
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:46,800
Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter of the Ravens had chance to

689
00:29:47,000 --> 00:29:50,160
Speaker 1: take a six point lead. When Justin trots out there,

690
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:51,840
Speaker 1: you always take it for granted. It's automatic.

691
00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 2: It's kind of like the bathroom break times, Like, all right,

692
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 2: Tucker's coming out here and hit the forty five yarder.

693
00:29:55,640 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 2: This is a good time to beat the crowd.

694
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: Was it? LaVar went to the bathroom when the Ravens

695
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,160
Speaker 1: were on the goal line with new Butler was not. Yeah,

696
00:30:06,280 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 1: go for the extra point, man, they score the touchdown anyway,

697
00:30:10,960 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: you know, Justin missing the forty four it's the first

698
00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 1: miss from within fifty yards for him this season. He's

699
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:22,160
Speaker 1: now missed six field goals, sorry, five field goals this year.

700
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:26,120
Speaker 1: He's now not the most accurate kicker in NFL history.

701
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:28,000
Speaker 1: We can't say that every time we mentioned his name,

702
00:30:28,120 --> 00:30:31,600
Speaker 1: which he held that honor for a long time. Young

703
00:30:31,680 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 1: Way Coup from the Atlanta Falcons is now the most

704
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: accurate kicker at ninety percent on the dot. Justin's just

705
00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 1: a hair under that. So the question is is there

706
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,080
Speaker 1: any concerned Are you concerned about Justin Tucker and his

707
00:30:47,240 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: ability to kind of come up clutch late in games especially?

708
00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:51,920
Speaker 2: I mean, look, if you if you have a late

709
00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:56,440
Speaker 2: game kick, I think Justin Tucker is you still feel

710
00:30:56,800 --> 00:30:59,800
Speaker 2: great about his ability to go in there and hite

711
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: a big time kick. You know, if it's if it's

712
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:06,600
Speaker 2: a playoff game here in Baltimore and it's a forty

713
00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 2: five yard field goal to win it, and Justin Tucker's

714
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,440
Speaker 2: tried out there, I like my chances. I feel really

715
00:31:11,480 --> 00:31:13,640
Speaker 2: good about that. I still have a not my stomach,

716
00:31:13,680 --> 00:31:15,680
Speaker 2: but yeah, I always have a not my stomach, but

717
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:17,920
Speaker 2: I feel really good about his ability to hit that kick.

718
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: One thing that John Harball talked about this week with

719
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 2: the field Goal Operation not just Tucker, is that they

720
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:28,160
Speaker 2: seemed a little bit rushed. They talked he kind of

721
00:31:28,240 --> 00:31:30,080
Speaker 2: chucked some of that up to the mechanics of the

722
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 2: officiating and when they were running the the play clock

723
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:35,280
Speaker 2: and spotting the ball and all those things, and so

724
00:31:35,400 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 2: that Justin ended up being a little bit rushed at times,

725
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 2: and so maybe that was what led to the miss

726
00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:41,800
Speaker 2: in this situation.

727
00:31:41,560 --> 00:31:43,840
Speaker 1: He just straight hooked it right. Yeah, he might have

728
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: been rushed and that's why.

729
00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: I mean it. There was no time left on the

730
00:31:46,880 --> 00:31:49,920
Speaker 2: play clock when that ball was snapped. Was that why?

731
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,760
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it could have been a factor.

732
00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: So I think that, like, you need to clean up

733
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 2: the operational stuff. They've had kicks blocked this year, and

734
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:58,680
Speaker 2: so there's more.

735
00:31:58,840 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: They also took a delay when I extra point out

736
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,360
Speaker 1: because the celebration took too long.

737
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:07,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, like there's been there has been more. There have

738
00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: been issues for a kicking game this year than ever

739
00:32:10,560 --> 00:32:12,240
Speaker 2: since Justin's been here. Yeah, And so I think that,

740
00:32:12,360 --> 00:32:15,560
Speaker 2: like collectively, all that stuff does need to be cleaned up.

741
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 2: Am I worried about Justin Tucker? I'm not. I just

742
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:22,000
Speaker 2: think that the operation needs to run at a higher

743
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:23,160
Speaker 2: level of efficiency.

744
00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:25,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, get back to me. If Justin Tucker has missed

745
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:30,600
Speaker 1: a string of field goal attempts within fifty yards. Get

746
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,520
Speaker 1: back to me then and maybe if there's a trend,

747
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 1: I'll be concerned. Right now, still the game, and I

748
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:40,440
Speaker 1: ain't worried. Good, all right now, we got to give

749
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:44,080
Speaker 1: out the honor of the Dow of the week. Okay,

750
00:32:44,360 --> 00:32:46,959
Speaker 1: all right, so we already talked about this guy, career

751
00:32:47,120 --> 00:32:54,280
Speaker 1: high PFF grade ninety four or something, Patrick Queen, no

752
00:32:55,840 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 1: go the week.

753
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 2: He's well deserving. He's a well deserving dog. Is this

754
00:32:59,080 --> 00:32:59,920
Speaker 2: the first time he's one of these?

755
00:33:00,320 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 1: It is his inaugural dog bone. And as a little teaser,

756
00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: by the way, we have the crew here is working

757
00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:11,520
Speaker 1: on a Dog of the Week like board. We're gonna

758
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep track of this now visual format. I'm

759
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 1: not ready to roll it out quite yet, but it's

760
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 1: in the work.

761
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: It's gonna be just in time for the playoffs, perfect

762
00:33:22,800 --> 00:33:23,200
Speaker 2: before then.

763
00:33:23,360 --> 00:33:24,800
Speaker 1: It's gonna be sweet, I'm telling you, Okay.

764
00:33:24,920 --> 00:33:27,240
Speaker 2: A couple of little news and notes items here and

765
00:33:27,320 --> 00:33:29,240
Speaker 2: also a little little plug. We are going to do

766
00:33:29,320 --> 00:33:32,400
Speaker 2: a full kind of bye week State of the Ravens

767
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:34,400
Speaker 2: pie which is gonna drop a little bit later this week,

768
00:33:34,440 --> 00:33:36,760
Speaker 2: so that'll give you a full recap and perspective on

769
00:33:36,840 --> 00:33:39,760
Speaker 2: where this team sits at this point, which, by the way,

770
00:33:39,840 --> 00:33:41,160
Speaker 2: nine to three, first place in the AFC.

771
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 1: That's where they that's where they are a good spot.

772
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 2: Okay, So a couple other news and notes items. David Ajabo,

773
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,520
Speaker 2: we felt like it was trending in this direction. He

774
00:33:49,640 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 2: had season ending knee surgery. So when he got hurt,

775
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:56,280
Speaker 2: it was knee and ankle, but then basically testing revealed

776
00:33:56,280 --> 00:33:59,360
Speaker 2: he had a partially torn ACL and he wanted to

777
00:33:59,360 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: play through it, but ultimately decided to have this knee

778
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 2: surgery and he is done for the year. The expectation

779
00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 2: is that help you back by training camp next year.

780
00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,759
Speaker 1: It kind of sounds like OBJ last year, or not

781
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 1: last year, but the year before he said he had

782
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:15,839
Speaker 1: a partially torn ACL that he was playing through when

783
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,920
Speaker 1: he was playing for the Rams. Now, David Jaba is

784
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:22,800
Speaker 1: in a much different point of his career than OBJ is,

785
00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:27,520
Speaker 1: And yeah, I mean it's a big bummer for David. Obviously,

786
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: he had the achilles that knocked out pretty much all

787
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:34,200
Speaker 1: of his rookie year. Big expectations, you look great over

788
00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,239
Speaker 1: the summer. I think there was a lot of hope

789
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:39,920
Speaker 1: that he could have a really strong sophomore season alongside

790
00:34:40,000 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 1: Adafeoway and to see him go down with the injury

791
00:34:42,640 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: this early, and it's really I feel for him. Now,

792
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: he still has plenty of time to get his career

793
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,879
Speaker 1: on the right track that we all think it will

794
00:34:54,080 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: get to. And I'll say this that David Ajabo is

795
00:34:59,239 --> 00:35:01,919
Speaker 1: a dude who has all the talent in the world

796
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,799
Speaker 1: and has the work ethic and is going to put

797
00:35:03,840 --> 00:35:06,520
Speaker 1: that work in to do it. And you know, we've

798
00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: seen late bloomers Dafeyoways now in year three and he's

799
00:35:09,360 --> 00:35:11,680
Speaker 1: starting to take off. Maybe that's kind of the same

800
00:35:11,760 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: way for David Ojabos. So it's a tough blow, but

801
00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:18,040
Speaker 1: I think the Ravens pass rush can withstand it.

802
00:35:18,280 --> 00:35:21,480
Speaker 2: Yeah. The other outside linebacker update is Tyas Bowser, so

803
00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,200
Speaker 2: kind of a just a linger. It's kind of like

804
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,320
Speaker 2: you can hit play here on some of the previous

805
00:35:27,400 --> 00:35:31,360
Speaker 2: updates and John Harball describe it as this angry knee

806
00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 2: and the question, one of the questions was like have

807
00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:37,359
Speaker 2: you not put him out there because it's a little

808
00:35:37,360 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: bit uncertain, and so you don't want to activate the

809
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 2: twenty one day window because once he does return to

810
00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 2: practice from the NFI list, a twenty one day window

811
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:47,200
Speaker 2: is activated, and that's where you have the ability to

812
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,839
Speaker 2: then put him on the fifty three or he season's over.

813
00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:51,200
Speaker 1: You have to at the end of that way.

814
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,240
Speaker 2: Yeah, so you don't want to basically start that clock

815
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:56,560
Speaker 2: before necessary. But John Harball said that's not really it.

816
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,759
Speaker 2: The truth is he's just not ready to practice yet, right,

817
00:35:59,000 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 2: and so time is running out for him this season.

818
00:36:01,920 --> 00:36:02,120
Speaker 1: Yeah.

819
00:36:02,239 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 2: Absolutely, Now they didn't say, I mean John said that.

820
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:06,560
Speaker 2: You know, the hope is still it would be big

821
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 2: for us to get him back, and the hope is

822
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: still that he plays this year. But flox ticking.

823
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,600
Speaker 1: If he's not ready to start the twenty one day window,

824
00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:14,839
Speaker 1: we only have five weeks left. Yeah, that's twenty one days.

825
00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:19,160
Speaker 1: I don't know three buddy. So yeah, you would certainly

826
00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: hope that after the buye. You know, if he's not

827
00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: practicing when the Ravens come back from the bye, that's

828
00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:28,200
Speaker 1: gonna be tough, I think. Yeah. And then at that

829
00:36:28,320 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: point he has to get up to speed with you know,

830
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:34,200
Speaker 1: in the mix, all the other inner workings that we

831
00:36:34,320 --> 00:36:36,160
Speaker 1: talked about with the pass rush that's going so well,

832
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 1: with the picks and the you know, different guys are

833
00:36:38,360 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 1: setting up different stuff for each other and to kind

834
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: of get up to speed with all that takes some time.

835
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 1: You don't just get plugged in and go.

836
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:47,880
Speaker 2: I have less concern about that because I do like

837
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:49,680
Speaker 2: the ability to just keep guys fresh and if you

838
00:36:49,760 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 2: add another fresh body, assuming he's healthy, but I you know,

839
00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:55,960
Speaker 2: it's just been a long time since he's played football

840
00:36:56,200 --> 00:36:58,000
Speaker 2: like that, That's what I would worry about. Just like

841
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,000
Speaker 2: the physical nature of stepping into this season in the

842
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,440
Speaker 2: middle of the year, late in the year, I think

843
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:05,600
Speaker 2: that that is difficult for a player to do. And

844
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:08,880
Speaker 2: then in terms of the bye week, just if you're wondering,

845
00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 2: what's what's happening here at the Castle, the answer is

846
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:12,040
Speaker 2: not much.

847
00:37:13,120 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: Well for the coaches, there's a lot for the players,

848
00:37:15,239 --> 00:37:16,919
Speaker 1: not for the players. They're off.

849
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 2: Okay. John Harbaugh in the locker room after the game

850
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 2: on Sunday delivered the good news that they had the

851
00:37:22,120 --> 00:37:22,759
Speaker 2: entire week off.

852
00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, which, big cheer on that one.

853
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: A lot of excited faces.

854
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's the cheer that we let out when we

855
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 1: hear the take a five day weekend. It's a big

856
00:37:32,160 --> 00:37:34,719
Speaker 1: cheer from us. The players got a little more than

857
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:39,200
Speaker 1: that deservedly so, and so yeah, I think John made

858
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:41,479
Speaker 1: a good point too, saying at this point the season,

859
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: we've had so much practice, there's not as much to

860
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:47,520
Speaker 1: be gained from getting in an additional day of practice,

861
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:50,239
Speaker 1: Like it's just there's more to be gained from the

862
00:37:50,360 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 1: rest in the recovery. And let's be honest, it might

863
00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:55,799
Speaker 1: have been different had the Ravens lost that game. Sure,

864
00:37:56,200 --> 00:37:58,799
Speaker 1: winning certainly makes it easier to get the whole week off,

865
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:00,839
Speaker 1: and when you have a week thirteen, I think it's

866
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,000
Speaker 1: just like this is time. Like this team, this team

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Speaker 1: has literally traveled all over the world times, across the ocean,

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Speaker 1: They've gone to the West Coast twice.

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Speaker 2: They need time to heal up and recover. And that's

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Speaker 2: what the that's what their focus is right now.

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Speaker 1: Yep. So thanks for listening. As Garrett said, we'll be

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Speaker 1: back later this week with kind of a state of

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Speaker 1: the Ravens at the Bay, so make sure you stay

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Speaker 1: tuned for that, make sure you subscribe, leave a rating

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Speaker 1: and review, and check out the Ravens Press Pass podcast,

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Speaker 1: where several Ravens assistant coaches spoke to the media on Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: and head coach Don Harwall and the coordinators on Monday,

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Speaker 1: so go back and listen to those. Thanks for listening,

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Speaker 1: we'll be back with you later this week.