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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. What did dude, baby, how y'all doing? It's

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Speaker 1: Black Friday, the day after Thanksgiving. I am Jason McIntyre.

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Speaker 1: He is Rob Parker. We are in for Dan Patrick

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Speaker 1: and Company. It is Friday, November twenty six. I hope

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Speaker 1: everybody had a phenomenal not just a great, not just

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Speaker 1: an outstanding I'm talking a phenomenal Thanksgiving. We have a

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Speaker 1: lot to be thankful for. I'm thankful for you guys

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Speaker 1: for tuning in here to the show, for listening to

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Speaker 1: my podcast, for my health, my family, my faith, and

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Speaker 1: also that we have a lot of sports to gamble

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Speaker 1: on all weekend. Rob, usually we get our Christmas tree,

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Speaker 1: uh today the day after drelieving. Yeah, we usually We're

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Speaker 1: not gonna be able to do it today. I'm not

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Speaker 1: going to talk about why we got some other stuff cooking.

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Speaker 1: But I love picking up the Christmas tree. I love

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Speaker 1: the smell of the Christmas tree. And I got eight

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Speaker 1: and ten. You know, I coach him in sports a lot,

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Speaker 1: and they're into Christmas like, oh like at that age

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Speaker 1: they can't wait, right, I don't know who I was listening,

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Speaker 1: so we should, uh, not really talk about Santa and no, no, no,

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Speaker 1: not at all, but I do want to say, yeah,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited for the month of December is really good.

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Speaker 1: I maintain Rob that March and November are the two

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Speaker 1: greatest months for sports. Obviously, I'm a big March madness geek. Uh.

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Speaker 1: If you follow me on social media, you know I

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Speaker 1: gamble on college basketball all the time. And I love

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Speaker 1: November because college football ramps up. We got the huge

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Speaker 1: Ohio State Michigan game this weekend. Your guy Jim Harball

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Speaker 1: another successful season, but Rob wants to dump on him.

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Speaker 1: We'll do that a little bit later. Successful, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean Michigan. Michigan has one mythical national championship since the

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Speaker 1: Louisiana purchase. Are you talking about season? Is they can't

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Speaker 1: build staff around the country at like nine or ten games. No,

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Speaker 1: maybe we'll talk about the Cincinnati Bearcats getting into the playoff.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna talk about the Warriors and Steph Curry.

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Speaker 1: But gosh, Steph Curry is fun to watch. He is

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Speaker 1: right now the greatest show in sports. That's undeniable. He's

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Speaker 1: playing the Washington Generals every night and two baby. He

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Speaker 1: also leaves the league in buckets of confetti after he

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Speaker 1: makes a three cabot that Rob Parker loves to dump

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Speaker 1: on all the things that are good and right about

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Speaker 1: American sports. Lebron James the Goat, one of the greatest

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Speaker 1: stories in basketball. Steph Curry, I mean he wants to

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Speaker 1: bag on the Dallas Cowboys. Let me guess. We got

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford and the Rams in a huge game, colossal

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Speaker 1: game with Aaron Rodgers at Lambeau Sunday. It is probably

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Speaker 1: the marquee game of Sunday. It is. The Rams have

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Speaker 1: lost two straight after the seven and one start when

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford was talked about as a potential MVP candidate.

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Speaker 1: Is still I think he's in the discussion. Nobody's won

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Speaker 1: or lost the MVP in Week eleven and a history

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Speaker 1: of football, so I'm not gonna overreact. But Matt Stafford

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Speaker 1: has not been very good the last two games. He's

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Speaker 1: dealing with a bit of a bum wheel the ankle. Oh,

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Speaker 1: here we go. Beckham, who we know is toxic. I mean, goodness, gracious,

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham. He's been a disaster since the catch. Rob,

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you the floor. Here to go and

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Speaker 1: go after Matt Stafford, who is you know, former number

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Speaker 1: he's put up for outstanding numbers throughout his career. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's why he has a nickname in Detroit as stat

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Speaker 1: I'm just being honest with a lot of those numbers

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Speaker 1: defenses relaxed. I'm just trying to tell you the history

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Speaker 1: of Matthew Stafford is that he doesn't beat the good

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Speaker 1: teams the team's over five hundred. He has some crazy

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Speaker 1: And that's ultimately what if you're a Rams fan you

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Speaker 1: have to be worried about. Because you talked about, go

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Speaker 1: look at their wins this year and other then beating

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Speaker 1: it has gone the other way against some of the

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Speaker 1: better teams. When they lost to the Titans at home

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Speaker 1: Stafford had two picks in that game. He's had four

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Speaker 1: picks in the last two games and five turnovers, and

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Speaker 1: that has come against the better competition. They've lost three

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Speaker 1: if Matthew Stafford has another bad game on the road

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Speaker 1: against the good team, you gotta start to wonder and

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Speaker 1: worry if this guy can get it. This is a guy,

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Speaker 1: you're right, Jason the number one overall pick who's oo

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Speaker 1: division And you start to wonder, can he get it done?

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Speaker 1: Is he really the upgrade people when they trade him

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Speaker 1: from Matthew Stafford. Jared Goff got to the Super Bowl. Yes,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff is an all Pro. Yes, yes, Matthew Stafford

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Speaker 1: hasn't been to a Super Bowl. Go look at Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff's numbers those years and the numbers between the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl year and now. They ain't no big upgrade over

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Speaker 1: Matthews from Matthew Stafford. Jared Goff was doing the same

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Speaker 1: exact thing. So my point is the only difference is

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff won some big games in big spots and

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Speaker 1: Matthew hasn't done that yet. That doesn't mean he can't

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Speaker 1: do it, but this crowning of him and calling him

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Speaker 1: the Messiah has been ridiculous. Okay, for the love of

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Speaker 1: Tred differ, Jared Goff did not get to a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff has never won a game in his career

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Speaker 1: without McVeigh, never Rob look it up. It's the most

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Speaker 1: amazing stat ever. Jared Goff has is zero wins in

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Speaker 1: his NFL career without McVeigh, zero before McVeagh got there,

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Speaker 1: and zero Jared goffoff. Matt Stafford is on trash teams

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Speaker 1: in Detroit, that dumpster fire of a friend and three

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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. That means that the PLO playoff games,

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Speaker 1: yes or no? What's he favored? Was he favored in?

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Speaker 1: It doesn't matter. He was the first overall pick. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't matter. Oh my god, that's why they have upsets

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Speaker 1: in sports. Jason stopped giving people excuse time out if

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Speaker 1: a minute. If if he if he would have won

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Speaker 1: a game, even that Cowboys playoff game. That go back

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Speaker 1: that the Lions had a number five defense that year

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Speaker 1: in twenty fourteen on the road. Okay, that doesn't matter.

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Speaker 1: They had Matthew Stafford got the ball back with two

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Speaker 1: give me an excuse. So they had another chance to

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Speaker 1: the last week of the season, and you know what,

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Speaker 1: they lost. I'm not gonna don't act like he doesn't

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Speaker 1: have didn't have any chances. Okay, you want to bag

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Speaker 1: on Stafford this year, they haven't beaten anybody. Give me

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Speaker 1: a team in the NFL that you think is good,

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Speaker 1: right now, give me one team. Go ahead, and green

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Speaker 1: Bay Packer. Here's the Green Bay Packers. These are the

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Speaker 1: three Packers, they beat the Lions, who are winless. They

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Speaker 1: beat the Niners in week three? Um or the Niners good?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't think they were good. And

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Speaker 1: what are you talking about? They just beat the Rams

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Speaker 1: and you want to talk about? Hold on? They're five team?

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Speaker 1: How are they good? We three repeating Tampa and you

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Speaker 1: went three credit for waiting the Niners. What in week

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Speaker 1: three when they came back on the road with thirty

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Speaker 1: forty Niners record in week three? Come on, jameson, then

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Speaker 1: you gotta give Stafford the credit for the win over Tampa. Okay,

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Speaker 1: in week three? So let's keep going for the Packers.

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Speaker 1: Great wins. They beat the Steelers, who are garbage. They

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Speaker 1: beat the Bengals, not good. They beat the Bears, stink,

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Speaker 1: Washington stinks. Arizona. I'll give you that. Their other win

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Speaker 1: if the Packers beat like rob this whole argument like

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Speaker 1: who has the beat seven? And oh Arizona gave you that.

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Speaker 1: That's a good all right, But that's a rolling good

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Speaker 1: win against a really good team that would win. Okay,

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Speaker 1: what about it all have one good win? Stop they

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Speaker 1: beat the Arizona. They beat them. That's impressive. The Arizona,

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Speaker 1: by the way, is like the fifth best Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: odds despite being the number one seed in the NA

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Speaker 1: in the NFC, you can't give me other than Tampa

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Speaker 1: Bay early on great Great Green Bay has one more

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Speaker 1: wins than Matt Stafford in the rain. That's Stafford's trending down.

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Speaker 1: Bad games in a row. Yes, he's on a bum wheel.

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Speaker 1: I get that. I'm not making excuses for Stafford. This

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Speaker 1: is the reality quarterback win. Nobody wins a game if

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Speaker 1: you're a quarterback. Okay, Aaron Rodgers and Tom Brady are

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Speaker 1: goats status. They are the only two who you can

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Speaker 1: say they won the game. You can't pin it all

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Speaker 1: on Matt Stafford his time at Detroit. Robert's unfair. You

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Speaker 1: know for a fact, those times I've watched him, I

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Speaker 1: watched Marbad, I covered Matthew Stafford differences. Your view of

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Speaker 1: him is watching highlights view of him and the Matt

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Speaker 1: Stafford has always been a top twelve quarterback. At the

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Speaker 1: end of er I watched stats. You watch the lights

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Speaker 1: and you've watched numbers and their fake numbers. That's why

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Speaker 1: his nickname was is stat Padford in Detroit. Ask anybody

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Speaker 1: from Detroit who actually watched the games and watched what

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Speaker 1: what kind of that they ever beat anybody? And that's

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Speaker 1: the issue when it comes with Stafford. All I'm saying

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Speaker 1: Jason is this year he's got to prove that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: and he if they don't get to the super Bowl,

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Speaker 1: will have been a flop or fail for round. I'm

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Speaker 1: asking us I predict that they would get to the

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Speaker 1: super Bowl. I don't think they don't get there. Rob.

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Speaker 1: It's not a failure from Matt Stafford. Trust the numbers.

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Speaker 1: It is they just gave Football Outsiders is universally accepted

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Speaker 1: as the most important stats in the league. They break

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Speaker 1: down every play. They don't give you the counting stats

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Speaker 1: of touchdowns interceptions. Okay, The top passers in the league

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Speaker 1: this year number one Tom Brady almost across the board.

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Speaker 1: Number two Kirk Cousins, who has the best touchdown interception ratio.

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Speaker 1: according to Football Outsiders in almost every metric they have

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Speaker 1: is Matt Stafford, ahead of the beloved Aaron Rodgers, ahead

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Speaker 1: of the beloved Dak Prescott, ahead of Kyler Murray. Justin

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Speaker 1: her against bad teams. The numbers against the good teams

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Speaker 1: are not good, Jason. When you get to the playoffs,

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Speaker 1: are you playing Atlanta and the all and the Giants

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Speaker 1: and the Jets. No, you guess who you're playing. You're

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Speaker 1: playing the best of the best. Give me his numbers

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Speaker 1: in the four best teams that they've played against, and

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Speaker 1: they're not good. Those are the games you gotta worry

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Speaker 1: about if you're the Rams, not the other games. Tampa

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Speaker 1: a guest on the first hour who said Tampa or

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Speaker 1: Green Bay is one of the best teams in the league.

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Speaker 1: Here's what Stafford did against the mighty Tampa Bay Bucks,

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Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champs. That was Week three, stop by,

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Speaker 1: I was that car for an ejection, I got a

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Speaker 1: game for putting, and Steph Curry's in the same sentence,

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Speaker 1: I was, yah, I watched it. Am I asking you

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Speaker 1: to give me the great Steph Curry shot in the postseason.

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Speaker 1: Ok Not the behind the back turnover in the finals. Okay,

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Speaker 1: not that pet or not where he was held scoreless

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Speaker 1: in the playing game against the Lakers and in the

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Speaker 1: fourth quarter and down the stretch in that game and overtime.

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Speaker 1: Not that I'm asking for you. No, I'm asking you

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Speaker 1: to give me the big shot he's made where his

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Speaker 1: team needed him to come through, even in the last

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Speaker 1: time they were in the finals. Way, No, you're right,

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Speaker 1: you want me to get I'll give it to you.

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Speaker 1: I want you what was it, I'll give it to you.

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Speaker 1: So you just said, which is great shot? He has

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Speaker 1: eight game winning shot attempts in his career. Steph Curry's

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Speaker 1: probably taken. I don't know. I'm just guessing twenty thousand

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Speaker 1: NBA shots he's played over a decade, and you want

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Speaker 1: to boil his career down to eight shots, Rob, just

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Speaker 1: when you talk out loud what you're saying you want

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Speaker 1: to boil You talk about the greatest of all talk

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Speaker 1: to twenty players three of the sport, and you want

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Speaker 1: to boil it down to but he missed eight shots, like,

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Speaker 1: just out loud, Rob, Yes, because shots, because I remember

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Speaker 1: what Ray Allen did from Miami and Lebron James. Because

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Speaker 1: I remember Reggie Miller scoring thirteen points. I remember, did

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Speaker 1: I remember Michael Jordia? I would Curry has more more

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Speaker 1: MVP awards. It doesn't rather, I'm talking about the first

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Speaker 1: place votes in his career. You should you should be

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Speaker 1: you should be ashamed that you can't name a big

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Speaker 1: sketch steps Curry shot in the clutch in the postseason,

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Speaker 1: and you want to call him the greatest shooter of

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Speaker 1: all time. I think that's the end, is that you

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Speaker 1: can't know, you can't name one because he hasn't said.

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Speaker 1: This is what's called deflection. Ladies, guys, answer the question

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Speaker 1: decade in the Jason answer to give me a great

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Speaker 1: shot that he's hit. I mean, I don't, I mean,

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Speaker 1: has he had a game winning shot attempt in the

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Speaker 1: final fights? Give me make Kyrie Irving better than Sef

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Speaker 1: Curry because Kyrie made it. I know he made it,

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Speaker 1: helped him. How many time many seconds were left? There

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Speaker 1: was like forty seconds left. Doesn't that not even make

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Speaker 1: your list because there wasn't a few enough seconds left

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Speaker 1: in the game. Let me ask you this, he's the greatest.

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Speaker 1: You said he's the greatest shooter, and he's alon You're

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Speaker 1: hold on. Tell me how he choked down a three

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Speaker 1: to one lead in the NBA finals. The first team

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Speaker 1: to ever choke down a three to one lead was

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry. He's the author of it. He's the greatest

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Speaker 1: shooter of all time, and he had the chance to

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Speaker 1: win three games and he couldn't win one. We'll do

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Speaker 1: more NBA because Rob loves it so much. But we

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Speaker 1: can't go back to the NFL because the NFL, the callers,

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Speaker 1: the board is lighting up. We got a great guest

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Speaker 1: coming here right now. His name is doctor David chow

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Speaker 1: X NFL Team Doctor, sports medical analyst. You can find

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Speaker 1: him on Twitter at pro Football Doc doctor Chow Harry

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Speaker 1: this morning. Welcome. Shall I break up that fight there? Yeah, don't, don't.

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Speaker 1: That's fun, that's just fun. Listen, we need you, We

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Speaker 1: need your assistance here because there are some real bad

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Speaker 1: NFL injuries. Let's start with Aaron Rodgers and his I

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Speaker 1: don't know COVID toe, his fractured toe. He's holding his

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Speaker 1: toe up at press conferences. Can you help us make sense,

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Speaker 1: doctor Chow of what's going on with Aaron Rodgers too.

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Speaker 1: It's not COVID toe. He's referred to COVID toe as it.

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Speaker 1: He got it when he was in Covid Corene because

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Speaker 1: he had to work out at his home and he

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Speaker 1: kicked a bag, you know, a punching bag or something,

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Speaker 1: and he broke his fifth pinky toe. It's the fractured

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Speaker 1: toe Aaron Rodgers even made he didn't even know what

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Speaker 1: COVID toe was. He was just making a joke on

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Speaker 1: Pat McAfee. And then we had all these COVID toe

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Speaker 1: articles that people were calling me about COVID toe. Look,

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Speaker 1: it's a pinky finger, a pinky toe. It's on his

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Speaker 1: left foot. Yes it's gonna hurt, Yes he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: limited in practice, etc. But if it hurts that bad

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Speaker 1: during the game, they're just gonna numb it up and go.

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Speaker 1: It's not that big of a deal. If you look

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Speaker 1: at him last game, he played very well and Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers probably doesn't need that much practice to play well.

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Speaker 1: So I'm not worried about this pinky toe injury at all.

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Speaker 1: But the funny thing is to compare it to a

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Speaker 1: turf toe, not even close. Right then, maybe there's a

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Speaker 1: fracture here, but the big toe is really what you

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Speaker 1: need to play with and push off. That's what hobbles you.

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Speaker 1: The pinky toe will be an essentially non factor. I

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Speaker 1: guess if left tackle, a new left tackle now steps

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Speaker 1: on in again like he did last year, it's going

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Speaker 1: to hurt him, but you know it's pain, it's not

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Speaker 1: going to be anything significant in my opinion, Ay Doc.

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Speaker 1: After the game last night, Dallas Cowboys coach Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 1: said it was pretty obvious that Zekiel Elliot's knee was

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Speaker 1: bothering him. What is the issue that Zeke is working

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Speaker 1: through and how concerned should the Cowboys be moving forward

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Speaker 1: with this knee. Well, I think you know, having Tony

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Speaker 1: Pollard the lessons a concern, but he's gonna play through.

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Speaker 1: Look at week twelve, now, eighty five percent is probably

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Speaker 1: a good week for any player in the NFL. Yes,

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Speaker 1: it's been lingering for a little bit, a nique contusion injury.

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Speaker 1: It's a main matter of pain and swelling. No, he's

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Speaker 1: not one hundred percent, but I think he's going to

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Speaker 1: continue to play through. I don't think he's gonna miss

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Speaker 1: any games, doctor Chow. I want to quickly look at

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Speaker 1: one of my favorite teams in the NFL, the New

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Speaker 1: York Jets. I know nobody cares, but I got to

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Speaker 1: ask you this Zach Wilson stuff. A lot of the

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Speaker 1: New New York media, I feel like they're trying to

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Speaker 1: sell newspapers, pushing Mike White and then Joe Flacco and

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Speaker 1: all this controversy. There's nothing there, right. Zach Wilson appears

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Speaker 1: to be one hundred percent for the Jets coming back

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Speaker 1: this week in kind of a big spot. You don't

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Speaker 1: want to get embarrassed again. They've had a bad streak here,

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Speaker 1: you're playing the Houston Texans. Do you from everything you

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Speaker 1: can glean, is Zach Wilson one hundred percent to go

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Speaker 1: for the Jets? Close to one hundred percent. He's certainly

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Speaker 1: good enough to play. I think he was good enough

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Speaker 1: to play a week or two weeks ago when it

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Speaker 1: first happened in game. We do this video analysis and

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Speaker 1: said he had a PCL and it's a two week

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Speaker 1: two to four week injury. But we lean towards the

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Speaker 1: four weeks or more because he's a young quarterback. He's

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Speaker 1: not Aaron Rodgers who can not practice a week can

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Speaker 1: come in and go lights out. He's got to practice

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Speaker 1: and he's got to be closer one hundred percent, especially

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Speaker 1: with that Jets team. Now he's finally close to that,

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Speaker 1: but really not a ton of other choice with you know,

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Speaker 1: Flacco out in COVID and what have you. But you know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know that Zach's one hundred percent, but I

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Speaker 1: put him the nineties, so I think he should be

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Speaker 1: good to go all right. Justin Fields didn't play yesterday

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Speaker 1: in the game against the Lions for the Bears. If

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Speaker 1: coach Matt Naggie decides that he's going a bench Andy Dalton,

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Speaker 1: should we expect to see Fields returned to the field.

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Speaker 1: Next next week. How about this for the irony of

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Speaker 1: all ironies. Justin Field's most numberable moment was in the

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Speaker 1: Sugar Bowl with Ohio State when he got rocked and

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Speaker 1: broke Ribbs, went into the medical tent, took an injection,

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Speaker 1: came back and with Superman hero and led Ohio State

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Speaker 1: to victory. Here he left the game and some of

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Speaker 1: it maybe coaching decision slash we want him a hundred

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Speaker 1: percent and preserved him for the future. He didn't even

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Speaker 1: take a big shot. Now there's some non displaced Maybe

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Speaker 1: fractures on Mr rib Blocks could take care of that.

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Speaker 1: This Andy Dalton start might have been Matt Naggie preference

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Speaker 1: and or short week syndrome with the Chicago Bears. So

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Speaker 1: I think Fields can be an option for the following

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Speaker 1: week if Matt Naggie wants to use him, especially since

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Speaker 1: Naggie needed to win a game, right, I mean, he

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Speaker 1: probably was trying to save his job because of all

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Speaker 1: the reports out there. Doctor Chow, let me just uh,

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford is a very contentious name on this show.

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Speaker 1: Rob obviously did not like him. I need to ask

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Speaker 1: why why? Because I don't think somebody's good. You think

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Speaker 1: I don't like personal put back on him. He's he's

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Speaker 1: had two awful games in a row. But doctor Chow,

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Speaker 1: has he been healthy. He's missed some practice. I believe

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Speaker 1: he's not one hundred percent. Now they are coming off

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Speaker 1: the bye week. This is the pressure filled week for

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford. What do you have on his injury? Well,

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Speaker 1: Matt Stafford is as tough as they come. He's never

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Speaker 1: really come out of games. Remember the back fracture that

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Speaker 1: he played yet quote no one knew about the you know,

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Speaker 1: the thumb injuries, the hand stuff. He's always played through

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Speaker 1: stuff and he's tough as he come. But before Rams

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Speaker 1: fans start saying Matt Stafford isn't the answer? Do you

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Speaker 1: want to go back to ja Erk Goff? Remember that,

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Speaker 1: you mean the guy who took you to the Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl and had the fifth greatest offense in the history

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Speaker 1: of the NFL. Doc I have to respectfully push back

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Speaker 1: on that that you're you're you're you're you're propping up

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford who's never won a playoff game, never won

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Speaker 1: a division title, and you're taking a shot at Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff who got to the Super Bowl. Come on, Doc, No,

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Speaker 1: I'm not taking the shot at Jared Goff at all,

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Speaker 1: I just or supporting Matt Stafford. I'm just giving you

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Speaker 1: the comparison. You gotta remember in the playoffs last season,

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Speaker 1: Jared Goff had a thumb issue where he could play

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Speaker 1: and start, and the Rams the Bells chose to start

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Speaker 1: John Wolford in that game. Now, John Woolford got injured

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Speaker 1: in the first quarter at bat and Jared Goff came

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Speaker 1: in played three and a half quarters. But the reason

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Speaker 1: why we knew he was healthy to play is Blake

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Speaker 1: Bortles was not listed as the third quarterback that day.

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Speaker 1: No team goes into a game with one and a

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Speaker 1: half healthy quarterbacks. That meant to me they knew Jared

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Speaker 1: Goff was healthy enough to right, yet they started John

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Speaker 1: Wolford and then obviously they traded John Jared Goff. So

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Speaker 1: the Rams told you what they think of Jared Gough,

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Speaker 1: not me. Yeah, they don't buy him now. But on

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Speaker 1: Stafford though, well, you know, I know he's a tough guy.

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Speaker 1: This ankle injury foot I'm not exactly sure how bad

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Speaker 1: it is, but where are you on that, doc? It's

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Speaker 1: only bad when he loses, otherwise he's great, right, Like

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Speaker 1: I said, eighty five percent is a good week. He's

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Speaker 1: at least eighty five percent. His health should not be

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Speaker 1: a major concern in terms of Matthew Stafford. All right,

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Speaker 1: let's I want to ask you Saints fans with question

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Speaker 1: of how Taysom Hill was healthy enough to be active

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Speaker 1: last night but not healthy enough to play over Trevor

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Speaker 1: Simeon tell us about Hill's health right now and what

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Speaker 1: it could mean for the Saints quarterback situation moving forward.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's an interesting issue there. They just find

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Speaker 1: him with a big contract and he couldn't play quarterback,

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Speaker 1: but what he could do fullback and tight end duty,

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Speaker 1: I mean makes sense. It seems like it should be.

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Speaker 1: The op said, there's more to the story there. I

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Speaker 1: don't know what it is right now, but you know

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Speaker 1: that's that's sort of the big question mark. But when

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Speaker 1: things don't make sense to us in the outside world,

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Speaker 1: they do from the inside. Will eventually find out, as

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Speaker 1: you guys know, but that doesn't make sense right now.

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Speaker 1: I've got one last go ahead. Yeah, yeah, I watched

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Speaker 1: that Buffalo Bills game last night and they kind of

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Speaker 1: glossed over the Tredavious White injury. It looked like a

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Speaker 1: non contact His knee kind of had this weird buckle.

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Speaker 1: He was on the ground. You could tell from the

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Speaker 1: look on his face that it might have been serious.

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Speaker 1: Do you have anything on the Tredavious White injury, because

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Speaker 1: you know he's an All Pro that feels like it

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Speaker 1: could have Super Bowl ramifications for the Bills. No question.

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Speaker 1: At Pro Football dot dot com end game. We posted

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Speaker 1: on my Twitter timeline and look, it's just video analysis

647
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Speaker 1: and I studied video for seventeen years while I was

648
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Speaker 1: in the NFL of injuries when I knew what the

649
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Speaker 1: injury was. But in this case, it's going to be

650
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Speaker 1: unfortunately in ACL tare Ato and mcl and he's going

651
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Speaker 1: to be out for the season. Now, remember this is

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Speaker 1: video analysis insider now is not inside information. The Bills

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Speaker 1: have said nothing. Sean John McDermott says, we'll tell you

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Speaker 1: on Tuesday, but count on their guy having to go

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Speaker 1: the rest of the way without Tredavious White, which is

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Speaker 1: a big deal. Hey, doc, real quick, about thirty seconds

657
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Speaker 1: lasting a baseball. Fernando Tatis Junior was hurt three time

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Speaker 1: with the shoulder last year. He decided not to have

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Speaker 1: the surgery. Do you think the Padres and Tattiss made

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Speaker 1: the right decision to go without surgery and just letting

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Speaker 1: it heel in the off season. I have not examined him.

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Speaker 1: He's my son's favorite player. I'm in San Diego. I'm

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Speaker 1: rooting for the guy. But he's a great player. He's

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Speaker 1: a great player. I think I think he's making the

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00:34:44,800 --> 00:34:47,360
Speaker 1: wrong decision. I think the Padres want him to have

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Speaker 1: the surgery looked. If he would have played the twenty

667
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,719
Speaker 1: five twenty nine extra games, he'd be the MVP. Look,

668
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:56,480
Speaker 1: he came out five times last season in five different ways.

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Speaker 1: It's only a matter of time before it comes out

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Speaker 1: again this next season. Rehab hasn't fixed it before. Rehab

671
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 1: isn't going to fix the label tear. He's an amazing athlete.

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00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:09,600
Speaker 1: He's a matrix. He changed the swing season and still

673
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:12,560
Speaker 1: hit forty two home months. But he can be even better.

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00:35:12,719 --> 00:35:15,760
Speaker 1: I think he's making a silly mistake. But once again,

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Speaker 1: I haven't examined him. If I have ability to talk

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Speaker 1: to him, I'd say, Fernando, you want to play shortstop,

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Speaker 1: you love shortstop. You don't want to be in the oculus, right,

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Speaker 1: get the surgery. You like that harness no, you want

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Speaker 1: to take it off, get the surgery. I mean you're

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Speaker 1: twenty three years old. I mean you're not indestructible, but

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Speaker 1: you know, twenty three year olds think sometimes think they are.

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Speaker 1: He is doctor David Chow x NFL Team Doctor, sports

683
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Speaker 1: medical Analyst. You can find him on Twitter at Pro

684
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Speaker 1: Football Doc. A great stuff, Doctor Chow. Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: I hope you had appreciate. Have a great day. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk to you soon. Thank you. Guys. All right, coming

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Speaker 1: up next here on The Dan Patrick Show, we want

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00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:51,359
Speaker 1: to go back to Curry. Don't worry, our number three

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Speaker 1: is coming. But coming up next, what does it mean

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00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,879
Speaker 1: this Ohio State game for Jim Harball. It's a big one.

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00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 1: Hardball yet to beat the Buckeyes. This would be a

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00:36:00,760 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 1: colossal upset for Jim Harball. If he loses. We know

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Speaker 1: what Rob Parker is gonna say. It ain't good. We'll

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Speaker 1: talk about that next year on The Dan Patrick Show.

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Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Dan Patrick Show podcast. Be

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Speaker 1: it's me Jon McIntyre, joined us always by my main man,

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Speaker 1: Rob Parker, and I gotta say Rob and I had

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00:37:05,719 --> 00:37:07,399
Speaker 1: gotten heated a couple of times, but I just want

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Speaker 1: to know you got you guys to know. It's much

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Speaker 1: love between us. I've known Rob for a long time.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any issue. I've enjoyed working with him,

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Speaker 1: whether it's FS one, Fox Sports Radio. We've been debating

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Speaker 1: for what five four or five years now, Robin, it's

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00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,000
Speaker 1: always fun, absolutely, and the same with Bruce Hard. I

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00:37:23,200 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: love to put Bruce Hard in a body bag every

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00:37:25,560 --> 00:37:28,200
Speaker 1: time we do an NBA debate, I do remember we did.

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Speaker 1: We filled it on Undisputed and you and Brussard and

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00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,000
Speaker 1: who was the other guy, the NBA player from the Rockets.

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00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: I just forgot it. Coatino Mobli, Katino Mobli. Yeah, and

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00:37:39,120 --> 00:37:41,400
Speaker 1: you guys jumped on me when I said the Lakers

724
00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,799
Speaker 1: wouldn't make the playoffs. Do you remember that? Which year

725
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,359
Speaker 1: was this? That was the first year, the first year

726
00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,879
Speaker 1: with Low and Lebron got hurt. Yeah, and they came

727
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 1: back and I was telling and they were, you know,

728
00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:54,359
Speaker 1: on the cusp of making a play, and I said

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00:37:54,360 --> 00:37:57,200
Speaker 1: that they wouldn't make it. And we had a big bruhaha.

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Speaker 1: And of course I was right. I love, I love,

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Speaker 1: I'll rob just oh yeah, Lebrun got hurt. He did

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00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:04,759
Speaker 1: come back, but they missed the playoffs. I was right

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Speaker 1: five years that victory. Lab don't injure your shoulder patting

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Speaker 1: yourself on the back. Ohio State, Michigan, It's the big

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00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: game on Fox on Saturday. Jim Harball has been very

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Speaker 1: good at Michigan. That that's a that's a hard stop.

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball has been good at Michigan. Play that fight song,

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Speaker 1: I love that fight songs like how are you talking to?

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Speaker 1: Do you? I know, Jim? Are you talking to Michigan people?

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Speaker 1: I'm setting up reality. These are facts. Jim Harball at

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Speaker 1: Michigan ten and three, ten and three, starting things out great,

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Speaker 1: You could say one with the other guys players, Fine,

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00:38:41,480 --> 00:38:44,200
Speaker 1: dip back to eight and five. It was trouble ten

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00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: and three, nine and four. They were bad last year,

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Speaker 1: but it was COVID year this year, ten and one.

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00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 1: Now he hasn't won a bowl game since twenty fifteen.

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Speaker 1: I had not even moved to La the last time

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Speaker 1: Jim Harball won a bowl game. Thank you, it's been

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Speaker 1: it's been a rough go. That being said, four ten

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Speaker 1: win seasons in seven years at Michigan, that's great, But

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Speaker 1: can you can you name the teams that they piled

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00:39:11,160 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: up those ten wins because this record against ranked against

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Speaker 1: ranked division against ranked opponents is horrendous. He's lost. Mel

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00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,560
Speaker 1: Turner showed up, melt Tucker, Tucker, I'm sorry, melt Tucker

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00:39:25,600 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: showed up in at Michigan State. And of course the

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Speaker 1: first time to the Big House he beat Jim Harball.

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00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:35,280
Speaker 1: They just gave this guy ninety five million dollars. Because

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Speaker 1: he's beating Hardball his first two times, including a big

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Speaker 1: game where they both came in. By the way, he's

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00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,000
Speaker 1: robbed his right. That's a bad loss to Meltucker. Also,

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Speaker 1: if you want to win some money this weekend, Penn

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00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:50,320
Speaker 1: State against mel Tucker, Penn State five. But I'm talking

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Speaker 1: about we're talking about Jim Hallball and how how Tucker

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Speaker 1: came in and off of two big wins against of

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Speaker 1: course his division, his well they had to pay State

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Speaker 1: rid from lu I got it. But but but don't

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Speaker 1: tell me if he would have lost, it would have

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Speaker 1: been a lot easy. It would have been as easy

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Speaker 1: to give him that night. And then what happened after

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Speaker 1: he got ninety five million. It doesn't matter what I'm

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Speaker 1: talking about. But we're talking about Jim Harbaugh, who's lost

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Speaker 1: twice to Tucker, who's owing five against Ohio State, who

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Speaker 1: has a terrible record against ranked opponents. He and you

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Speaker 1: just said, he hasn't won a bowl game and since

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Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, and they're paying him. They were, they were

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Speaker 1: paying him like he was a top three coach. Of

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Speaker 1: the top four coaches in college three of the four

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Speaker 1: had won a national championship. The only guy who hadn't

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Speaker 1: was Jim Harball and then he had to eat crow

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Speaker 1: take a pay cut here to stick around here. All

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Speaker 1: I'm saying to you is when they lose to Ohio

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Speaker 1: State and he goes oh in six, if you jump

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Speaker 1: around and talk about a ten win season, you don't

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Speaker 1: even know why in the world they brought him to

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Speaker 1: a back to ann Aubor to to run that program.

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Speaker 1: It was to win a national championship and to get

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Speaker 1: them in the College Football Playoff, which they haven't done

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Speaker 1: in his six years. So it will be a total

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Speaker 1: failure for Jim hark I think that's a little bit strong.

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Speaker 1: By the way, he is a seven and a half

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Speaker 1: point under U. Here are the recent scores of Ohio

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Speaker 1: State vers. Jim Harbaugh for fifty six, twenty seven, sixty two,

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Speaker 1: thirty nine, thirty one, twenty and the one that stings

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Speaker 1: with the first one. They lost thirty to twenty seven.

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Speaker 1: There was a bad spot late in that game with

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Speaker 1: Michigan driving for the go ahead score and they got jobbed.

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00:41:35,600 --> 00:41:38,440
Speaker 1: But Ohio State's owned hard to go again, always about

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00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: referees and spots. He looked at him, you Tube, it

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Speaker 1: was an awful horizon and what about the mister last

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Speaker 1: to Michigan State where he didn't have max protection on

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Speaker 1: his blocker. You remember that game. Listen to Michigan State.

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00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 1: That launch is bad. That collapse was unbelievably unacceptable. Um

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Speaker 1: that being said, all these like you want to go

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Speaker 1: ahead and kill Michigan, uh Wolverines for for Hardball's four

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00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:08,080
Speaker 1: ten win seasons. Listen, this is not a marquee program.

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Speaker 1: As you said, they haven't won one title since what

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty something or seven ninety early nineties with Lloyd Carr. Like,

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Speaker 1: let's not act like Michigan is some amazing But they

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00:42:18,719 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: brought Jim Harbaugh in to change that. Jason, that's what

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Speaker 1: you're missing. He was to change it first and second

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Speaker 1: round picks. Since Harbaugh took over the Michigan job, Ohio

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00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:35,440
Speaker 1: State twenty five, Michigan seven on off a total twenty

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Speaker 1: five first and second round picks to seven. So Jim

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Speaker 1: Harball is going into a gunfight with one tied hand

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Speaker 1: tie behind his back. Michigan. He's got a spoon in

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Speaker 1: his hand, Michigan. Stay. He's lost two games. The collapse

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00:42:47,680 --> 00:42:50,880
Speaker 1: really hurt man. They were dominating that game up sixteen

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00:42:51,440 --> 00:42:56,719
Speaker 1: and they collapsed. It was okay lecknowledge not stopped making excuses.

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Speaker 1: He blew that game. That was a bad law. A

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00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,720
Speaker 1: lot of ten win seasons at Michigan, but he hasn't

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Speaker 1: won the empty empty Go look at the schedule of

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Speaker 1: the teams they beat in those ten wins. So we

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Speaker 1: got a final hour. I think we got another hour left.

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Speaker 1: We need two more. The arguments are so heated coming

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Speaker 1: up hour three. Rob Parker, J. Mack keep it locked.