1 00:00:05,160 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: Hey, this is Sanny and Samantha. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: I'm welcome to stuff on Never Toally proprection by her radio. 3 00:00:18,680 --> 00:00:22,560 Speaker 1: And welcome to another Monday MANI And you know what, 4 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:27,280 Speaker 1: the world is turning upside down and with many people 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,080 Speaker 1: fearing what may happen in the future. I am many people. 6 00:00:30,120 --> 00:00:33,080 Speaker 1: By the way, it isn't surprising to see that for 7 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: my FYP it is completely inundated with recommendations on where 8 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,480 Speaker 1: to go if you're trying to leave the US. Any 9 00:00:42,520 --> 00:00:45,360 Speaker 1: have you got hit with any of these? No, but 10 00:00:45,400 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 1: I'm not on social media and social media, but are you, like, 11 00:00:48,560 --> 00:00:51,680 Speaker 1: do you have any advertisements or even any inklings or conversations? 12 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:53,880 Speaker 1: Has any articles popped up for you? 13 00:00:53,880 --> 00:00:55,160 Speaker 2: No? 14 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:59,720 Speaker 1: Interesting? Just me as fair. It's fair. Also, I'm getting 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: a lot of videos on getting medical care for a 16 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:06,640 Speaker 1: lot cheaper around the world than the US, and people 17 00:01:06,680 --> 00:01:09,880 Speaker 1: going on what's called medical tourism, and people are going 18 00:01:09,880 --> 00:01:12,640 Speaker 1: to I've seen Turkey a lot, South Korea a lot, 19 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 1: but just like other countries, I've seen a few people 20 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:18,720 Speaker 1: going to Mexico. I don't know if it's racism, and 21 00:01:18,800 --> 00:01:21,280 Speaker 1: so therefore it seems like people talking about things that 22 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,040 Speaker 1: are happening in Mexico not not being as good as 23 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:27,360 Speaker 1: other places. I feel like that maybe underlying of racism 24 00:01:27,360 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: in general and capitalism in the US. So I don't know, 25 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:31,960 Speaker 1: but I've seen a lot more for like Turkey and 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: South Korea, and by the way, South Korea has a 27 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 1: lot of shady practices, like unqualified people pretending to be surgeons. 28 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: But anyway, all of that to say, like, there's a 29 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,760 Speaker 1: lot of this coming into my feed. So because of 30 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,320 Speaker 1: all this, this has been something that's in the back 31 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 1: of my head, like I thought I might go somewhere. 32 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,800 Speaker 1: Where should I go? How does this process look? So 33 00:01:52,920 --> 00:01:55,080 Speaker 1: I decided to take a look at the current trends 34 00:01:55,160 --> 00:02:00,200 Speaker 1: and statistics in this hellhole healthscape of the government and 35 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: what is happening. And no surprise, numbers have increased for 36 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,000 Speaker 1: those who are actually moving and increase numbers for those 37 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: who want to move. So a lot of this is 38 00:02:09,080 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: being said, I will say put here, Yeah, this is 39 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,520 Speaker 1: all about people with money, so people who can afford it, 40 00:02:16,520 --> 00:02:18,840 Speaker 1: people who aren't tied down, people who don't have family 41 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:20,679 Speaker 1: that they don't have to take care of. This is 42 00:02:20,800 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: very privileged talk, and I get that, but it still 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: doesn't change the fact that people are talking about it, 44 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: and for those who can't do it, they also wish 45 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 1: they could. Like there's this level of like, no, but 46 00:02:32,080 --> 00:02:34,519 Speaker 1: I need to leave. Help me raise my fund. So 47 00:02:34,560 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: I've seen people just trying to get up of their states. 48 00:02:36,360 --> 00:02:38,960 Speaker 1: So a lot of trans people out of Texas, Georgia, 49 00:02:39,040 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 1: anywhere in the South, like please help me get out 50 00:02:41,120 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: of here to at least go to California, to New 51 00:02:43,120 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: York where I have access if nothing else. So there's 52 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 1: a lot of that conversation. It's bad, but so here, 53 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: we thought we'd take a minute to look at statistics 54 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: as well as where people are recommending to go. So 55 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:01,200 Speaker 1: this is from Seattle Times. Dot Com estimated one thy 56 00:03:01,280 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: two hundred and eighty five at US citizens expectorated in 57 00:03:04,360 --> 00:03:07,919 Speaker 1: the first quarter of twenty twenty five, making one hundred 58 00:03:07,960 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 1: and two percent increase compared with the last quarter of 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. Then this is according to a report 60 00:03:14,360 --> 00:03:17,639 Speaker 1: from CS Global Partners, which analyze the toxics from the 61 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: US Federal Register. Should this pattern continue, twenty twenty five 62 00:03:21,760 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 1: is poised to see a record high number of Americans 63 00:03:24,840 --> 00:03:29,400 Speaker 1: relocating overseas, surpassing the previous peak in twenty twenty, during 64 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:33,520 Speaker 1: the height of the COVID nineteen pandemic. The numbers are high, 65 00:03:33,560 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: and we're going to talk a little more about those 66 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:36,760 Speaker 1: numbers in a minute. But yeah, a lot of people 67 00:03:36,760 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: are leaving. That is a record one hundred and two 68 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:44,280 Speaker 1: percent increase, like it is more than double. Have you 69 00:03:44,280 --> 00:03:46,200 Speaker 1: thought about possibly leaving the country. 70 00:03:48,040 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 2: I've thought about it, but not seriously. I have two 71 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 2: what would you go? 72 00:03:52,520 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: We have to I haveings, like actual physical things, or 73 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:59,160 Speaker 1: like obligation or bones. 74 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:05,280 Speaker 2: Okay, I I New Zealand's that's New Zealand place. 75 00:04:05,840 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, apparently it's one of the top ones. Like everybody's 76 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: list has New Zealand and there. New Zealand scares me. 77 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,240 Speaker 1: There's so many creatures. We just talked about this with Ease. 78 00:04:14,960 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 1: Too many creatures out there in New Zealand. I know 79 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: is different from Australia, but they both have creatures unknown. 80 00:04:21,960 --> 00:04:24,640 Speaker 2: I will say Australia and my experience because I have 81 00:04:24,720 --> 00:04:30,760 Speaker 2: been to both, Australia has a lot more concerns in 82 00:04:30,839 --> 00:04:35,280 Speaker 2: that arena. But I don't know. You could be right. 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 2: Maybe it's an unknown. 84 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I just don't know well enough. New Zealand 85 00:04:39,600 --> 00:04:43,440 Speaker 1: has also been the dream spot to vacation. Yeah, also, 86 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: like you do want to see it, That's what I've heard. 87 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:47,440 Speaker 1: I do have people who I do know, people who 88 00:04:47,440 --> 00:04:49,320 Speaker 1: live there and who are from there, so I feel like, 89 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 1: I mean, it's still a large country, so I can't 90 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:55,159 Speaker 1: like like I know someone there, So you know, that 91 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: doesn't mean they know all of New Zealand, but they 92 00:04:56,680 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 1: definitely know New Zealand better than I do. But yeah, 93 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,920 Speaker 1: that is spot and Yeah, people are actually using relocation 94 00:05:04,120 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 1: services to find the best places for them, so this 95 00:05:07,440 --> 00:05:11,440 Speaker 1: business is booming, these relocation services. Here's another quote from 96 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 1: The Guardian. They write, since Trump's return to power, relocation 97 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:18,039 Speaker 1: firms from London to Lisbon and Madrid to Milan save. 98 00:05:18,120 --> 00:05:21,600 Speaker 1: They've seen US searge and inquiries from Americans and daunted 99 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:24,400 Speaker 1: by the gains made by the far right across the continent. 100 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:28,159 Speaker 1: Many Americans cite a desire to escape the US's increasingly 101 00:05:28,160 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: polarized climate and an administration whose wide range of targets 102 00:05:31,800 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: has included immigrants, diversity measures, and political opponents. And then 103 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:40,120 Speaker 1: they continue, statistics show that the barrage of interest is 104 00:05:40,160 --> 00:05:44,000 Speaker 1: translating into action. In the first two months of the year, 105 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:48,320 Speaker 1: US applications for Irish passports were at their highest level 106 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:51,720 Speaker 1: in a decade, up sixty percent from the same period 107 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:54,159 Speaker 1: last year. In the first three months of the year, 108 00:05:54,400 --> 00:05:56,760 Speaker 1: France reported a rise in the number of long stay 109 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 1: visa requests from Americans, while in March the number of 110 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:03,280 Speaker 1: Americans who had solicited British citizenship in the twelve months 111 00:06:03,440 --> 00:06:07,160 Speaker 1: before search to its highest since record keeping began in 112 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: two thousand and four. So people are going now. I 113 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,159 Speaker 1: will say my choices do not include France, nor England 114 00:06:13,400 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 1: or the UK in general, mainly because they're not doing 115 00:06:16,839 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: so great either, Like it seems like that, yes, they're 116 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:23,080 Speaker 1: better off than the US in my opinion, but they're 117 00:06:23,120 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: still kind of arising into the conservatism as well. We 118 00:06:26,160 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 1: see the anti trans rhetoric happening in the UK and 119 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: it's really gross. There's been an uprise in anti immigration 120 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: stances within the UK as well. Now I know we 121 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: have some UK listeners, so you can let us know 122 00:06:39,320 --> 00:06:43,080 Speaker 1: how far it's gone, because obviously we're kind of blinded 123 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:45,479 Speaker 1: by our own issues, but we do want to know 124 00:06:45,520 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: what's going around. I have the France, I mean, they well, 125 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:51,520 Speaker 1: there's a lot happening France. 126 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 2: I was reading about this when I couldn't sleep the 127 00:06:54,600 --> 00:07:01,920 Speaker 2: other night. I was like, oh my gosh. 128 00:07:00,000 --> 00:07:02,280 Speaker 1: My ministers are being let go left and right. 129 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,960 Speaker 2: So wow, votes have no confidence, my goodness. 130 00:07:07,520 --> 00:07:11,560 Speaker 1: But at least it feels like that means the citizens 131 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: are being heard versus what's happening here. 132 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:17,000 Speaker 2: But you know what the frustrating thing is every time, 133 00:07:17,080 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 2: and I know French people, I don't have to tell you, 134 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:24,280 Speaker 2: but every time Marie the pin comes up and I'm like, 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,080 Speaker 2: you're still around, You're still around. 136 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: Don't you feel shocked by that? You're like, wait, I 137 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,480 Speaker 1: thought you were going to tell what Oh. 138 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 2: My gosh, and you have a statement and you're like, 139 00:07:36,200 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 2: well now it's my time. 140 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:43,120 Speaker 1: Oh my, here I go. Right. But you know, yeah, 141 00:07:43,200 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: like I said, this could be just from what we 142 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:50,400 Speaker 1: see based on the US. Again, yeah, I know all 143 00:07:50,440 --> 00:07:52,480 Speaker 1: of our self are censored, and I know we're not 144 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: getting all of the news. It's feeling very dark here. 145 00:07:55,760 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: But again, like as a Korean, I'm like, I don't 146 00:07:58,560 --> 00:07:59,640 Speaker 1: think I wanna go there, and I don't want to 147 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 1: go to the South Korea either, y'all because I see 148 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:03,240 Speaker 1: the same things. I'm like, there's a lot at least 149 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 1: the citizens have a lot more rights. But when it 150 00:08:05,320 --> 00:08:10,280 Speaker 1: comes to like the pressures and the anti stuff with 151 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: like the queer community, anti stuff with like women in general, 152 00:08:13,600 --> 00:08:15,200 Speaker 1: I don't want to be there. Like I'm trying to 153 00:08:15,200 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 1: find a better point, and unfortunately South Korea does not 154 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:22,400 Speaker 1: look like it's getting better at this point. I'm not 155 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:24,600 Speaker 1: trying to diss all the countries. I'm so sorry. I've 156 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:27,240 Speaker 1: just tried to be like, is it good or is 157 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: it our censorship like on that, But I've seen a 158 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: lot of good things about China recently, and at the 159 00:08:32,120 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: same time, I'm like, but we know there's still some 160 00:08:36,800 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 1: underlying issues within the covernment, so let's not get too 161 00:08:40,559 --> 00:08:54,360 Speaker 1: caught up in that. So with all of that, Newsweek 162 00:08:54,400 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: actually wrote this as well about the increases they wrote 163 00:08:58,280 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 1: and this is all, by the way, twenty twenty five articles. Obviously, 164 00:09:01,040 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: I feel like you can tell contact clues, but just 165 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:04,559 Speaker 1: in case y'all need to know, the things that we're 166 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,840 Speaker 1: reading currently is twenty twenty five unless otherwise stated. Is as. 167 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,680 Speaker 1: A recent survey conducted by Harris Pohl found that four 168 00:09:10,720 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: and ten US adults forty two percent have considered or 169 00:09:13,960 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: plan to relocate outside the country to improve their quality 170 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 1: of life or financial position. Among younger generations, these numbers 171 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: were even higher, at sixty three percent of Gen z 172 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 1: ers and fifty two percent of millennials. I guess I'm 173 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: in that fifty two percent because I've definitely been considering 174 00:09:32,280 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: it and looking at my options. It's interesting to there 175 00:09:36,240 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: was in this article one relocation firm from the in 176 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:46,359 Speaker 1: the Netherlands that have called this the Trump eugs like refugees, 177 00:09:46,360 --> 00:09:48,319 Speaker 1: but they're running away from Trump. I don't want to 178 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:50,280 Speaker 1: put cute names on things. This is not cute because 179 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,480 Speaker 1: it's ugly. Anything with that name makes me think it's ugly. 180 00:09:52,800 --> 00:09:59,839 Speaker 1: But it does indicate they know why the people are leaving. Yeah, 181 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: so all of that is is that's how they've kind 182 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: of stamped these people. And that was the title of 183 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:08,800 Speaker 1: the article. Ohkay, oh yeah, what is this? What is this? 184 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:13,960 Speaker 1: But and there again are many reasons people have been moving. 185 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 1: This is for my twenty twenty four Yeah, here we go. 186 00:10:17,040 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 1: See article from Harvey Law Corporation dot com. And yes, 187 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:22,200 Speaker 1: they're doing this in the process of being like, hey, 188 00:10:22,200 --> 00:10:24,440 Speaker 1: we'll help you leave the country. So it was an 189 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,880 Speaker 1: advertisement with their information, but just to put it up there. 190 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:30,760 Speaker 1: They wrote several things on the list, one of them 191 00:10:30,800 --> 00:10:34,240 Speaker 1: being no affordable healthcare and higher costs of living in 192 00:10:34,280 --> 00:10:37,640 Speaker 1: the US. They wrote this, the amount spent on healthcare 193 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: in the US rose by seven point five percent in 194 00:10:40,480 --> 00:10:43,760 Speaker 1: twenty twenty three. This brings the total of to four 195 00:10:43,840 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 1: point nine trillion dollars or fourteen thousand, five hundred and 196 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:51,920 Speaker 1: seventy dollars per person. This increase is similar to what 197 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,200 Speaker 1: it was before the pandemic. The soaring cost of living 198 00:10:55,240 --> 00:10:57,959 Speaker 1: and healthcare in the United States is often cited as 199 00:10:58,000 --> 00:11:02,480 Speaker 1: a primary reason for immigration. For many, the financial burden 200 00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:09,360 Speaker 1: has become unsustainable, prompting them to seek more affordable alternatives abroad. Again, 201 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:11,959 Speaker 1: we talked about the medical tourism and how that has 202 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:16,680 Speaker 1: become a new thing, and it makes sense. It makes sense, 203 00:11:16,760 --> 00:11:20,320 Speaker 1: especially with social media showing maybe a glamorized version, but 204 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:23,920 Speaker 1: showing access and what it looks like, and the amount 205 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:28,040 Speaker 1: of costs for places like Turkey and such, who know 206 00:11:28,240 --> 00:11:30,440 Speaker 1: that the US are going to spend more than the 207 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: locals because whatever the more is is still much less 208 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:38,280 Speaker 1: than what is in the US, and it's not contingent 209 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:43,120 Speaker 1: to work, which is all different conversation, like we've normalized that. 210 00:11:43,200 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 1: It took years for me to realize, Oh, that shouldn't 211 00:11:46,120 --> 00:11:52,199 Speaker 1: be normal. But anyway, all of that to say that 212 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 1: this makes sense, like this reason for living alone, Like 213 00:11:55,280 --> 00:11:57,280 Speaker 1: even if it's higher taxes, it's still cheaper. 214 00:11:57,920 --> 00:12:02,120 Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, my dad was really sick. He wanted he 215 00:12:02,240 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 2: was talking about doing this, and I don't know if 216 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:08,760 Speaker 2: it would have been better or not, but he looked 217 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:13,440 Speaker 2: into it because he didn't know what else to do. 218 00:12:13,559 --> 00:12:17,680 Speaker 1: Really, it really doesn't make sense because, as we know, 219 00:12:17,960 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: we are already seeing conversations warning everyone that all of 220 00:12:23,640 --> 00:12:26,160 Speaker 1: our premiums, all of our stuff is about to go up, 221 00:12:26,200 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 1: possibly by twenty percent, if not twenty five percent, for 222 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,079 Speaker 1: everyone across the board. And this is those who are employed. 223 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: That nobody's getting a raise. Technically the last few years 224 00:12:37,240 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: we got a decrease, a significant decrease in our salary, 225 00:12:40,400 --> 00:12:42,760 Speaker 1: but our interest is going up. And with the insurance, 226 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:45,880 Speaker 1: I'm still having to pay two thousand dollars for the 227 00:12:45,920 --> 00:12:49,200 Speaker 1: appointments that I've had. Yeah, this is why I don't 228 00:12:49,200 --> 00:12:50,080 Speaker 1: go with doctors. 229 00:12:50,400 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: I know, we've talked about this, we have to think 230 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 2: about this. We're like, oh, is it well maybe I'll 231 00:12:55,600 --> 00:12:58,839 Speaker 2: just roll the dice and hope it turns out Okay, right, I. 232 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:03,200 Speaker 1: Think I'll self medicate sleeping. I'm just kidding. So another 233 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,079 Speaker 1: reason that they have cited was a work life balance, 234 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: and we've talked about that many times. There was one 235 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 1: video that just popped up before this that talked about 236 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,920 Speaker 1: what she hated about her work, and she was like, 237 00:13:13,920 --> 00:13:16,079 Speaker 1: I only work twenty hours a week, but because I 238 00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:19,040 Speaker 1: working I believe Denmark was where she's from. They're making 239 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,360 Speaker 1: me take my six week vacation leave because that's the 240 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 1: amount that they have to go as a part time worker, 241 00:13:23,160 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 1: no matter what, because if not, they would have to 242 00:13:25,320 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: pay her out. But I'm like, you know, that's kind 243 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: of gross. They should she wants to be paid out, 244 00:13:28,760 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: she should, But at the same time, are you kidding me? 245 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: They purposely tricked us with the unlimited PTO here in 246 00:13:37,320 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: the US, saying that you have unlimited PTO when in 247 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: an actual wality they're like, no, but you shouldn't take it, 248 00:13:44,160 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: and they tricked us and they ended that was better, 249 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,640 Speaker 1: but it's not. But like in the US, they they 250 00:13:50,679 --> 00:13:53,520 Speaker 1: don't care. Most of the times, you're two weeks. By 251 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:56,440 Speaker 1: the way, it's only two weeks guarantee vacation in a year, 252 00:13:57,120 --> 00:14:02,520 Speaker 1: just goes away the next year. Yeah, oh yeah, and 253 00:14:02,559 --> 00:14:04,679 Speaker 1: you don't get compensated with anything. You just don't get it. 254 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:09,719 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, so used as if you got it. That's 255 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 2: what everyone always tells you, and I never do. 256 00:14:11,520 --> 00:14:16,840 Speaker 1: But right, right. Another thing, obviously, the big thing that 257 00:14:16,880 --> 00:14:19,680 Speaker 1: I feel like we've been talking about with the trumpugees 258 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:24,160 Speaker 1: or you know, Trump refugees, is the political and social unrest. 259 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: There's a lot we can say about this. Obviously for 260 00:14:28,600 --> 00:14:32,440 Speaker 1: the queer community lgbt QIA folks, that's an obvious big 261 00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,040 Speaker 1: conversation about where should we go all of our rights 262 00:14:35,040 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: being taken away from us tramps people are literally being 263 00:14:39,400 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: told they cannot have weapons or which is like Second Amendment, 264 00:14:42,960 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: right unless you're trans for the point zero zero one 265 00:14:48,360 --> 00:14:54,640 Speaker 1: percent who have actually committed crimes. Yeah, and for the 266 00:14:54,920 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 1: what thousands and thousands who have died needless sleep by 267 00:15:00,680 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: violence because they're trans. But you know what, whatever, we're that. 268 00:15:05,480 --> 00:15:08,240 Speaker 1: Another part of that would be the refugees and immigration 269 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:13,880 Speaker 1: status as well, when we talk about even those who 270 00:15:13,920 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 1: are quote unquote legally here and I don't like that 271 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:19,680 Speaker 1: term obviously but who have documents showing that they are 272 00:15:19,720 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: here on visas, green cards, citizenships. All of that, they're 273 00:15:23,960 --> 00:15:26,840 Speaker 1: still being deported. And now with the new ability to 274 00:15:27,160 --> 00:15:31,320 Speaker 1: just profile anyone who is of color and detained based 275 00:15:31,360 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: on whether or not they believe you or not. And 276 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:36,120 Speaker 1: then that you don't get deported to your home country, 277 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: you get deported to a work camp or just disappeared. 278 00:15:42,560 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 1: So that's a good reason to also leave. Many have 279 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:49,680 Speaker 1: voluntarily left, Many are scared and leaving. Many are me 280 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: who are like, do I have options? But here's a 281 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: quote from CNN, and this is I guess a person 282 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:59,080 Speaker 1: who's trying to help one of the relocation firms. They 283 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,000 Speaker 1: say the people who seek me out tend to be 284 00:16:01,080 --> 00:16:03,720 Speaker 1: the people who fill their targets, he said, noting that 285 00:16:03,760 --> 00:16:05,840 Speaker 1: his clients tend to be wealthy with the means to 286 00:16:05,840 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: move abroad again wealthy. In the days following Trump's January 287 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:13,280 Speaker 1: executive order restricting gender affirming medical care for young people, 288 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: lest parents or the dude who is interviewed and works 289 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,840 Speaker 1: as a relocation firm said he received seven inquiries from 290 00:16:20,880 --> 00:16:23,720 Speaker 1: parents with a trans child. For these families, he said, 291 00:16:23,760 --> 00:16:27,320 Speaker 1: American represents a political wildfire. Zone and they can smell 292 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 1: the smoke more than the average white heterosexual melt with 293 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:34,480 Speaker 1: a mega hat on. So yeah, that's absolutely something that 294 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,160 Speaker 1: those who can't afford it and are supporting their families 295 00:16:37,360 --> 00:16:40,080 Speaker 1: are trying to do rightly. So this is a very 296 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: scary time. We know things are rolling in with the 297 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:49,120 Speaker 1: death of political activist Charlie Kirk, we know they're really 298 00:16:49,160 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 1: trying to push that narrative without any concrete air of evidence, 299 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 1: and that's what they did. We just had that episode 300 00:16:55,960 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: with Rigid and immediately a day later there was a 301 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: mass shooting trying to blame a trans person and with 302 00:17:01,960 --> 00:17:04,560 Speaker 1: Bridgid of like they y'all see this like that is 303 00:17:04,800 --> 00:17:07,439 Speaker 1: now as new rhetoric. One by one by one, it 304 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 1: is constantly a thing, and people are trying to leave 305 00:17:10,480 --> 00:17:12,240 Speaker 1: because they don't want to become victim to that or 306 00:17:12,280 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 1: an excuse to die because this is kind of feeling 307 00:17:15,320 --> 00:17:18,040 Speaker 1: like it's leading to martial law against specific groups of people. 308 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: But with that, if you can't afford it, and if 309 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:34,600 Speaker 1: you have access, where are the best places to go? 310 00:17:35,320 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: So Global Citizensolutions dot Com says the following. They have 311 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:42,760 Speaker 1: a lot of research and they do this as a constant. 312 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:45,720 Speaker 1: The top ten countries go as Portugal, which I've seen 313 00:17:45,760 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 1: in a lot of lists, and apparently they want you 314 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:50,399 Speaker 1: to come. They don't give you a house if you 315 00:17:50,440 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: have a babys well, I'm out the repopulating things or 316 00:17:55,359 --> 00:18:01,480 Speaker 1: the thing Spain, Cyprus, Greece, Malta, Canada, Mexico, Germany, and Australia. 317 00:18:02,359 --> 00:18:05,480 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's because we're so close into 318 00:18:05,680 --> 00:18:09,040 Speaker 1: Canada as in like there were neighboring we're North America together, 319 00:18:09,920 --> 00:18:13,760 Speaker 1: but I've seen a lot of maga esque people coming 320 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: out of the word wars in Canada, and they really 321 00:18:16,080 --> 00:18:19,440 Speaker 1: seem to hate immigrants. Not all of them, there's a 322 00:18:19,520 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 1: chunk of them. They're amazing, just like the US, but 323 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: there's a like balance, it's very unsteady. 324 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:27,800 Speaker 2: I feel like, yeah, I mean that's been kind of 325 00:18:27,840 --> 00:18:33,480 Speaker 2: the disheartening thing is that, you know, when this election happened, 326 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 2: and it's not like it's new, but we started to 327 00:18:37,080 --> 00:18:39,400 Speaker 2: see a lot more of that coming out in other 328 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:42,760 Speaker 2: places too. Way it's like oh really. 329 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting real comfortable. They're like, oh, well the 330 00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 1: USA we are great. 331 00:18:48,240 --> 00:18:53,240 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, which yeah, it sucks because I know again, yeah, 332 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:55,840 Speaker 2: I know it's it sucks because I know a lot 333 00:18:55,880 --> 00:18:59,200 Speaker 2: of people, probably most people in Canada aren't like that. 334 00:18:59,320 --> 00:19:03,520 Speaker 2: A lot of people scared, not like that. But so 335 00:19:03,560 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 2: it's just really frustrating. But it was like, oh no, yeah, yeah, 336 00:19:08,560 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 2: they are too. 337 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,120 Speaker 1: So safest for queer folk and this is from Rainbow 338 00:19:15,680 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 1: Rainbowmatt dot org. So they kind of give all this 339 00:19:18,400 --> 00:19:21,280 Speaker 1: and they have a whole like qualifier, so they have 340 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:23,760 Speaker 1: a scoring sheet and you guys like these are the best, 341 00:19:23,800 --> 00:19:26,760 Speaker 1: these are the worst. So the top ten for safest 342 00:19:26,760 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: place for queer folks is Malta, which I have never 343 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:40,800 Speaker 1: considered Malta but heard is really beautiful, so you know, okay, Malta, Belgium, Iceland, Denmark, Spain, Finland, Greece, Germany, Norway, 344 00:19:40,840 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 1: and Luxembourg. I'm also seen a lot of people talk 345 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:46,920 Speaker 1: about Luxembourg. They apparently want some some xpass in there too. 346 00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,439 Speaker 1: But with that, I did see Ireland pretty higher up 347 00:19:50,440 --> 00:19:52,560 Speaker 1: on their list as well. But these were the top 348 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,560 Speaker 1: top in like, okay, this is what we see as 349 00:19:55,840 --> 00:19:57,719 Speaker 1: where the laws are good for you, where they were 350 00:19:57,720 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 1: advocate for you, where you have opportunities, all these things, 351 00:20:00,840 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: and then the safest for racial equity. Now, I put 352 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,960 Speaker 1: this with a caveat because I think they still there's 353 00:20:07,000 --> 00:20:10,840 Speaker 1: things like when people say, oh, certain areas have such 354 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:16,840 Speaker 1: low racist issues and such la it's because black people 355 00:20:16,880 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: or people of color don't live there and so the 356 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:22,560 Speaker 1: amount of incidents are less. So I feel like these 357 00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:24,080 Speaker 1: are some of the things with this country. And again 358 00:20:24,119 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 1: this is from a globalsolutions dot Com So I put 359 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 1: this with a grain of salt in that you is 360 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: it because it's safe or is it because you just 361 00:20:32,320 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 1: haven't seen many black people or many people of color? 362 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: And I say, aple people of color, Like, okay, you 363 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:40,680 Speaker 1: know what I mean. So we have Denmarcus number one, 364 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:48,680 Speaker 1: New Zealand, Netherlands, Finland, Canada, Norway, Iceland, Sweden, Belgium, and Ireland. 365 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 1: I've seen many people talking about how Ireland has been 366 00:20:51,280 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 1: wonderful for people of color, but I've also seen recently 367 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:58,880 Speaker 1: a lot of antimigration rhetoric from the far right there 368 00:20:58,920 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: as well. There's no good place. I know, the world 369 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:06,960 Speaker 1: is awful, but these are somewhat better. So maybe just 370 00:21:07,240 --> 00:21:09,359 Speaker 1: keep traveling around if you have the money, and just 371 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,119 Speaker 1: keep working at different areas and figure out how to 372 00:21:12,119 --> 00:21:17,400 Speaker 1: do this. No that's not a solution, okay, But anyway, 373 00:21:17,480 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: that's some of the thoughts that have happened. If you 374 00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,959 Speaker 1: are a person who all decide to immigrate, let us 375 00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,159 Speaker 1: know if you're thinking about it, let us know what 376 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,160 Speaker 1: is the process, how are you going about it? If 377 00:21:28,160 --> 00:21:30,240 Speaker 1: you're staying because you know you have to fight here, 378 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,119 Speaker 1: I feel like that's part of the conversation too. We 379 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: don't want people to leave because we want to keep 380 00:21:37,560 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: fighting for what is right here and fight for those 381 00:21:41,080 --> 00:21:45,000 Speaker 1: who can't leave themselves. 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