WEBVTT - This is Dramatic: In the News with Maria Menounos

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<v Speaker 1>This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin,

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<v Speaker 1>Texas today, I'm Solow. For now I will have a

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<v Speaker 1>guest host, but it is not the beautiful, talented Elz.

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<v Speaker 2>She is.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm not going to tell you what she's doing.

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<v Speaker 1>It is amazing and beautiful. Guys, When I tell you,

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<v Speaker 1>this woman has the heart the size of the state

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<v Speaker 1>of Texas. What she is doing, it's her story, so

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<v Speaker 1>I want her to tell it and it will be

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<v Speaker 1>a part of our podcast. We'll talk about it next week.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is a beautiful thing. I can't wait for

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<v Speaker 1>her to get home. But she has gone this entire week,

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<v Speaker 1>and it is true, when Elz goes, it's like I've

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<v Speaker 1>lost ten people in this house because that's how many

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<v Speaker 1>personalities are gone with her. So the light has gone

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<v Speaker 1>out of the house here in Austin. But she will

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<v Speaker 1>be back next week. But in the meantime, I am

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<v Speaker 1>bringing in some light a beautiful woman. And I mean

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<v Speaker 1>that in a holistic, spiritual, charismatic, intelligent way. Maria Menunos,

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<v Speaker 1>host of her own amazing podcast, Heel Squad, joins me

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<v Speaker 1>to try and fill those shoes of Elsie. Maria, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you so much for being here.

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<v Speaker 2>I will do my best.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you will. You're a pro. I know that

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<v Speaker 1>we have worked alongside each other for years and years

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<v Speaker 1>and years, but you have also just survived the big LA.

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<v Speaker 1>What are they are they calling it the hurriquake, the

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<v Speaker 1>hurricane earthquake.

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<v Speaker 2>It sounds like Sharknado to me.

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<v Speaker 1>It really was Hurricane twenty twenty three.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, you know, it was great. We were making some

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<v Speaker 2>you know, renovations in the back guesthouse and the yard

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<v Speaker 2>was a mess, and I was like, we have a

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<v Speaker 2>hurricane coming. We gotta, you know, get everything cleared. It

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<v Speaker 2>brought to higher ground so the whole place got pristine

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<v Speaker 2>just because of that. So I was so happy. It

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<v Speaker 2>was all good.

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<v Speaker 1>We just had one blow through Texas as well, kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a tropical storm, bunch heavy rain and all that.

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<v Speaker 1>And someone I heard, one of the kids in the

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<v Speaker 1>neighborhood asking if they were going to be out of

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<v Speaker 1>school because they heard all the LA kids got to

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<v Speaker 1>take a day off of school because it rained really hard.

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<v Speaker 1>I said, no, that doesn't happen anywhere else. I appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>you filling in. You have a beautiful, wonderful story, a

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful wonderful family, your husband Kevin, your daughter Athena that

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<v Speaker 1>I think is two months now, Yes, and I love it.

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<v Speaker 1>You said you just got back from the doctor's office,

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<v Speaker 1>the pediatrician, and you were gushing about Athena because she

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<v Speaker 1>is top percentile, ready to go, ready to go to college.

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<v Speaker 1>I believe was what the doctor said.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we're thinking right next year, she's going to college. No,

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<v Speaker 2>it's funny. She was a big baby when she was born.

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<v Speaker 2>She was eight pounds thirteen ounces. She was like, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, twenty one inches long or something like that.

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<v Speaker 2>So when we went to the doctor to she was like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>my goodness, she's she's tracking like a four month old.

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<v Speaker 2>I was like what, She's like, yeah, she's a big girl.

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<v Speaker 2>So she's almost fourteen pounds, she's twenty four inches long. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>two months already teething.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's funny because.

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<v Speaker 2>We're all like, oh, we see teeth, and everyone's like,

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<v Speaker 2>are you crazy. I'm like, no, she's teeth. And I'm like, look,

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<v Speaker 2>she wants to talk. You can see your little tongue

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<v Speaker 2>and everyone's like what, And I'm like she's advanced.

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<v Speaker 1>I always love that, you know, like as a parent,

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<v Speaker 1>there's always the moments, no matter what it is, we

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<v Speaker 1>find a way to like, you know, yeah, be very

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<v Speaker 1>braggadocious about our kids.

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<v Speaker 2>Totally. Oh no, she's so they're all advanced.

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<v Speaker 1>We should be. We should be.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just fun, you know. The nurse was like, she's

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<v Speaker 2>so advanced in the very beginning, so we stuck with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Everything she did was like, well, she's advanced.

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<v Speaker 1>Of course, of course she's speaking French. I mean she's

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<v Speaker 1>two months old. She's going to be walking at three months?

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<v Speaker 1>Is the to the contrary? I remember my mom told

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<v Speaker 1>me it was I'm not sure if it was my

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<v Speaker 1>brother and myself who wasn't walking early enough, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>at eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen months, which is typically when

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<v Speaker 1>the child starts walking. And the pediatrician looked at my

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<v Speaker 1>mom and said, Mary Beth, relax, I've never known a

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<v Speaker 1>child to go to kindergarten without learning to walk. It's okay,

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<v Speaker 1>they're going to figure it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I was advanced. I walked it eight months, but

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<v Speaker 2>I also had cooked legs, so I was forrest gump.

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<v Speaker 2>I had to wear leg breezes. Oh, really poor shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>So I'm looking at her and I'm like, oh, she's

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<v Speaker 2>going to walk it like six months for sure.

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<v Speaker 1>That is funny. Well, a beautiful Athena. I appreciate you

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<v Speaker 1>taking time away because I know you have to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to her, But I want to run through what's

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<v Speaker 1>going on in the world, because obviously you are. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a baby world, so you got nothing, baby brain? Are

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<v Speaker 1>you a Swiftie?

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<v Speaker 2>I love Taylor Swift. I'm not a big like music person.

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<v Speaker 2>I listened to a lot of Greek music and like

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<v Speaker 2>Italian music.

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<v Speaker 1>And you come from a very Greek family.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but I love Taylor and I love you know,

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<v Speaker 2>listen to Kiss one O eight and listen to stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. She just left LA and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a thing. I actually made a joke. Are you even

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<v Speaker 1>in La right now? If you're not posting from the

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<v Speaker 1>Taylor Swift concert? Because it seemed like everybody was at

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<v Speaker 1>this show, which is amazing, which goes.

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<v Speaker 2>To into one before she was amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>She yes, she puts on unbelieving And obviously the success

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<v Speaker 1>of this tour, the Eras tour, has been amazing. But

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<v Speaker 1>the big headline that just came out was that she

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<v Speaker 1>reportedly declined to headline the twenty twenty four Super Bowl.

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<v Speaker 1>NFL clearly came after her and said, would you please

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<v Speaker 1>be our halftime show, the coveted halftime spot, and she

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<v Speaker 1>said no for a couple of reasons. I think logistics wise,

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<v Speaker 1>she is going to be doing this eras tour overseas.

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<v Speaker 1>I think she may be in Japan around then. Not

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<v Speaker 1>that there aren't jets that she owns that could fly

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<v Speaker 1>her back for that one show, but she has declined

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<v Speaker 1>because the other thing, and I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 1>know this, you don't get paid for that halftime show.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I did hear that. I think j Loo

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<v Speaker 2>said that.

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<v Speaker 1>It is essentially an honor, which is hysterical because you

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<v Speaker 1>are helping them make hundreds of millions of dollars, but

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<v Speaker 1>it is an honor for you to play the halftime show.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think she's like, I'm good, thank you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got plenty of money. I don't need your advertisement.

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<v Speaker 1>Right hawking Pepsi at their halftime show. But it is

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<v Speaker 1>amazing she has gotten so big. There was who was it?

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<v Speaker 1>Billy Joel said that he hasn't seen anything like this

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<v Speaker 1>since Beatlemania, the mania that's surrounding Taylor Swift, it is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty wild.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, so is she bigger than Beyonce?

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<v Speaker 1>I think she's beyond eclipse to beyond say, no way,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean definitely in money, definitely in tours and money

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<v Speaker 1>she's going, Maria, She's going to have at the end

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<v Speaker 1>of this, we'll have the biggest, highest earning, largest tour

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<v Speaker 1>in the history of music, beating Elton John's Goodbye Tour. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it's yeah, not even close. This woman is absolutely a

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<v Speaker 1>force of nature. So it's it's pretty wild. So no,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, no halftime show unless Pepsi wants to really

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<v Speaker 1>pony up some cash to get Taylor Swift back.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, maybe she'll set the new precedent where people do

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<v Speaker 2>have to get paid exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Someone's getting slightly nil deals in college football. Enough of

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<v Speaker 1>the free ride. Did you watch the two documentaries on

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<v Speaker 1>the fire festivals?

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<v Speaker 2>Were great?

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<v Speaker 1>So great? Well you know that. So the Billy McFarlane

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<v Speaker 1>guy who did all that, you know, he went to jail.

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<v Speaker 1>He was sentenced to six years and he got out

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<v Speaker 1>for good behavior. I'm not sure what that is, but

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<v Speaker 1>he came out firing pun intended. Maria he's selling tickets

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<v Speaker 1>and spinning Fire Festival too.

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<v Speaker 2>I heard because Kevin told me this. I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people have no shame. They just by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>He's figuring it out because he's got a popularity. Now,

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<v Speaker 2>he's got a name that people recognize.

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<v Speaker 1>If you don't know. So the Fire Festival was this

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<v Speaker 1>not the worst idea. It was just the most epic

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<v Speaker 1>fail of execution in the history of all ideas. Apparently

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<v Speaker 1>he wrote down this fifty page maybe manifesto you could

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<v Speaker 1>call it, of how to do it right this time.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's coming out ready to go with Fire Festival too.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with you, buyer, Beware what performers, what manager

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<v Speaker 1>is going to say? Yeah, definitely, I'm going to have

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<v Speaker 1>imagine Dragons sign up for this one or Maroon five

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<v Speaker 1>real quick, that's going to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but watch somehow this guy's going to figure it out, Chris,

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<v Speaker 2>and it's going to be huge next year.

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<v Speaker 1>He'll get them fire.

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<v Speaker 2>She will be like, let's just see if he can

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<v Speaker 2>do it. I bet anything. You know, it's not a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of time to figure it out in jail.

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<v Speaker 1>I see another documentary in his future. I know you're

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<v Speaker 1>big on love and you're big on relationships, and obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we know who Jennifer Aniston is. She came out in

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<v Speaker 1>an article recently where she said it's still a challenge

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<v Speaker 1>her quote to be in a relationship because of her parents' dynamic.

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer went on to say she was getting candid in

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<v Speaker 1>this that her relationships, her parents' relationship, affected the way

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<v Speaker 1>that she approaches her her own and that she's opened

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<v Speaker 1>up about the impact of her mother and father's dynamic,

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<v Speaker 1>and that she was kind of alone a lot and

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<v Speaker 1>she doesn't see a relationship that she can give to

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<v Speaker 1>and that she kind of just likes her own way

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<v Speaker 1>and wants to do things make herself happy and doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>want to give up on that. I found it was

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<v Speaker 1>very I don't know if sad's the word, but unfortunate

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<v Speaker 1>to have this beautiful person on so many levels. And

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<v Speaker 1>as she even said, I'm so successful at everything else,

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<v Speaker 1>but I'm not successful at this.

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<v Speaker 2>I really love her. She's so lovable and warm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's you know, America's sweetheart. It's Jennifer Aniston. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>Julia Roberts. But you know what I find interesting is

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<v Speaker 1>and I guess what I would tell her is if

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<v Speaker 1>she was sitting on this couch or anybody else. A

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<v Speaker 1>relationship and love is not about losing yourself, at least

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<v Speaker 1>it shouldn't be. You are not losing yourself as much

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<v Speaker 1>as you're getting a value out in your life. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>for you, it's Kevin, for me it's Lauren. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've lost any of my individuality. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>feel like I've lost any friends. I haven't. I think

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<v Speaker 1>I'm probably more fun than I ever was because Lauren's

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<v Speaker 1>so damn fun. But I don't feel that that's a relationship.

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<v Speaker 1>And what she's kind of explaining sounds more toxic to

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<v Speaker 1>me of if I'm in a relationship, I will lose

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<v Speaker 1>myself and.

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<v Speaker 2>I well, she's got a lot of trauma obviously that

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<v Speaker 2>she's I'm sure worked through and been working on. But

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<v Speaker 2>maybe she needs some EMDR. And that is EMDR. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this really amazing therapy that they use on like returning

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<v Speaker 2>vets for PTSD, which she probably has with her her

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<v Speaker 2>family dynamic, and it's you know, Harvard's done so many

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<v Speaker 2>studies on it. It's pretty amazing. You know, maybe that

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<v Speaker 2>would help her because you're right, like it is supposed

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<v Speaker 2>to be something you don't have to give yourself up for. However,

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<v Speaker 2>we as talent soak up a lot of attention and

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<v Speaker 2>have a lot of needs and are used to having

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. So maybe she needs like a good dentist.

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna say, I was before you just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of said that. I was saying my next bit of

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<v Speaker 1>advice would be find someone out of the industry. Go

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<v Speaker 1>find just a normal, you know, edge fund manager. It

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<v Speaker 1>is I it is, you know. I think Charlie's their

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<v Speaker 1>own said that one time of like, I'm single, I

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<v Speaker 1>would love to date, but no one's going to approach me.

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<v Speaker 1>And it's amazing. You would think, oh my gosh, come on,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie's Jennifer Aniston. Yeah, but it's actually not that easy

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<v Speaker 1>because most people will not approach them, and if they do,

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<v Speaker 1>they don't approach them in the right way. Genuinely. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you know.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, also, there's so many things about interacting with the

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity that a non celebrity would never know, and there's

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<v Speaker 2>so many boundaries you really have to be careful not

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<v Speaker 2>to cross. And then it's just it's it's a really

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<v Speaker 2>hard thing for someone who's not in the loop. To

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<v Speaker 2>really understand how to engage with people properly, and so

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<v Speaker 2>we can't just she can go to like a small

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<v Speaker 2>town and do her thing for a little bit, or

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<v Speaker 2>she can't stay there. She can't, you can't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know. It's really hard to explain.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, Taylor Swift is a great example. Not to go

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<v Speaker 1>back to Taylor. I am a swifty by the way

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<v Speaker 1>you can tell. But she went to a wedding I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was this week or maybe last week, and

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<v Speaker 1>it got out in this small town that she was there.

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<v Speaker 1>When she walked out, everyone within twenty towns was there,

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<v Speaker 1>mobbing the place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That is the kind of like moth to a flame

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<v Speaker 1>attention you get when you were in.

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<v Speaker 2>The wedding, right and then ps. There's also like I've

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<v Speaker 2>been in situations where I've gone to weddings and once

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<v Speaker 2>people got the booze in them, that's when they started

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<v Speaker 2>taking potshots. Yeah, oh you think your fancy. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they're insecurities and inadequacies come out, and then they have

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<v Speaker 2>to hurt you because they're feeling lesser for some reason,

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<v Speaker 2>and so the pot shots would come out. And Kevin's like,

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<v Speaker 2>you can't do this. Anymore, And I was like, why

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<v Speaker 2>would people be like this? Like I have no problem obviously,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm not Jennifer Aniston, but like we live in

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<v Speaker 2>a small town in Connecticut. I have no problem. I

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<v Speaker 2>go to the local pie's place, we have great time.

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<v Speaker 2>Like I I am okay mixing in those arenas. But

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes you get people who don't know how to be

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<v Speaker 2>and they are very inappropriate and I'm kind, and so

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<v Speaker 2>it can be tough.

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<v Speaker 1>I always said there was this there's this point in

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<v Speaker 1>the night where everybody goes from being super sweet and

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<v Speaker 1>nice to that crossing the line touchy feely or saying

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<v Speaker 1>stuff that like the filter is off, and maybe it's

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<v Speaker 1>just their true feelings, but you know I and it's

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<v Speaker 1>for me. It was always guys because of the show

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<v Speaker 1>I hosted for twenty years. Obviously a lot of women

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<v Speaker 1>watched it, and naturally they would just come up and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of start talking. It was the icebreaker, and guys

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<v Speaker 1>always took that the weird or the wrong way as

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<v Speaker 1>if they were threatened by me, which I couldn't be

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<v Speaker 1>less threatening as a human being, but guys would just

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<v Speaker 1>get a little insecure, and so they would start popping

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<v Speaker 1>off or whatever, And typically I would just immediately diffuse

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<v Speaker 1>it by buying him a drink, trying to buy everyone

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<v Speaker 1>a drink or whatever. But you just have to remove yourself.

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<v Speaker 1>And oftentimes you would be at a big event or

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<v Speaker 1>somewhere and you realized at ten thirty at night, you're

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<v Speaker 1>back in your hotel room while everybody is still down partying,

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<v Speaker 1>because you just kind of had to get away from

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<v Speaker 1>it all. And it's weird you're sitting there alone, going, wait,

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<v Speaker 1>why am I not down there? Yeah, and again times

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<v Speaker 1>ten or times one thousand, is Jennifer Aniston or Charlie's

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<v Speaker 1>or anybody else trying to live that life? So but

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<v Speaker 1>I agree, I would say if she can a what

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<v Speaker 1>you're kind of explaining as a toxic relationship, don't lose yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>find someone who's a value add and maybe get out

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<v Speaker 1>of the industry. Yeah, this next story, I lest your mom,

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<v Speaker 1>and due to a brain cancer. In twenty twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>Olivia Newton John obviously passed away as well, and her

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<v Speaker 1>daughter Chloe revealed that she has had health issues. And

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<v Speaker 1>this is something I know that you've talked about caretakers

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<v Speaker 1>having health issues for after the person that they were

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<v Speaker 1>taken care of actually passes away or is deathly ill.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's something you can relate to, and it's something

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about a lot.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I totally understand that there are actual statistics about

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<v Speaker 2>caregivers dying before the patients they take care of. So,

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<v Speaker 2>for example, and I have this in my phone because

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<v Speaker 2>it's just so alarming to me, there are forty three

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<v Speaker 2>million unpaid caregivers, mostly women. Stanford found forty percent of

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<v Speaker 2>Alzheimer's and dementia patients die before the patient that they're

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<v Speaker 2>caregiving for. And I also know that the clinic that

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<v Speaker 2>I would take my mom to in Mexico was founded

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<v Speaker 2>by a woman who got cancer taking care of her

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<v Speaker 2>mother with cancer. Caregiving is excruciatingly hard and it really

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<v Speaker 2>does take its toll on your body. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>I had help, and it was still a lot, So

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<v Speaker 2>I can I can totally understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's what you know. Chloe so Olivia Newton John

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<v Speaker 1>obviously she died of breast cancer last off ugus and

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<v Speaker 1>she said, since my mom's passing and the year and

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<v Speaker 1>a half with her going through cancer, I've not been okay.

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<v Speaker 1>I have forgotten to return commitments and I have been

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<v Speaker 1>neglecting myself. One of my mom's biggest messages was to

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<v Speaker 1>take care of you. If you don't take care of you,

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<v Speaker 1>you can't give your full capacity of love, wisdom, kindness

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<v Speaker 1>and power to everyone else. She got lost in all this,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is something that as people that are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to this, obviously, it's something we can all relate to

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<v Speaker 1>that have lost a loved one and watch someone die

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<v Speaker 1>of cancer or whatever the illness was. It is hard

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<v Speaker 1>to say, take care of you, but it is amazingly

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<v Speaker 1>important to do so.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but there's no roadmap for that. First well, there's

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<v Speaker 2>like no roadmap for how to handle any of this.

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<v Speaker 2>I thought I was taking care of myself, right. I

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<v Speaker 2>had a nurse helping me with my mom, and I

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<v Speaker 2>had my husband and my dad, And there were moments

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<v Speaker 2>where I took a break, yeah, and went to the

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<v Speaker 2>other coast and caught my breath. I mean, I did

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<v Speaker 2>all of the things that I thought were going above

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<v Speaker 2>and beyond what normal people would do in terms of

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<v Speaker 2>taking care of you, and you know, whatever it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I get a massage where I did all those things

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<v Speaker 2>and I still ended up with so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So do do you have any advice. What's our takeaway

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<v Speaker 1>to Chloe or the Chloe's of the world is we're

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<v Speaker 1>all going to face this probably at some point in

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<v Speaker 1>our life.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I really think first of all, we have to

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<v Speaker 2>fix the caregiving situation in our country because nursing homes

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<v Speaker 2>are really really rough for people. Caregiving at home is

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<v Speaker 2>excruciatingly expensive. Even people who have a lot of resources

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<v Speaker 2>can't afford it. That's how hard it is. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we have to figure out how to get care giving

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<v Speaker 2>covered by insurance. It just has to happen. It used

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<v Speaker 2>to happen. Used to pay for an extra insurance so

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<v Speaker 2>when you got older, you got sick, you would be

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<v Speaker 2>able to have care at home. Now in New York,

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<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing the commercials where they will advertise if

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<v Speaker 2>you want to stay home and take care of your

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<v Speaker 2>family member, they'll pay you to stay home and take

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<v Speaker 2>care of your parent or something. Because there's forty three

0:20:28.640 --> 0:20:33.960
<v Speaker 2>million unpaid caregivers. That means now you're already going broke

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<v Speaker 2>because of whatever the illness is, and your health insurance

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<v Speaker 2>is only covering so much. But now you also have

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<v Speaker 2>to quit your job to take care of your family member.

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<v Speaker 2>So we have to fix that. But it's awareness, it's

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<v Speaker 2>really understanding how sick you can get by taking care

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<v Speaker 2>of someone. It doesn't mean we're not going to do

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<v Speaker 2>the job. We're going to do the job. We're going

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of our moms and our dads and

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<v Speaker 2>our family members. But just being really aware and cognizant

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<v Speaker 2>of taking care of yourself nutritionally and emotionally, making sure

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<v Speaker 2>you're talking to somebody getting those feelings out. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>we talk about like the fascia in your body really

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<v Speaker 2>stores a lot of emotions, so it's like doing some

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<v Speaker 2>like fascia work and all kinds of things. There's so

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<v Speaker 2>much stuff you can be doing, so you have to

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<v Speaker 2>really be aware.

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<v Speaker 1>So maybe the takeaway be mindful of yourself. But also

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<v Speaker 1>if you know someone who's going through this, a friend,

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<v Speaker 1>a loved one, be mindful of them and what they're

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<v Speaker 1>going through and try and take extra care of I

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<v Speaker 1>know we all think, oh, I'm sorry, Maria about your mom,

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<v Speaker 1>but think deeper about their health and things maybe you

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<v Speaker 1>can do to take care of them, and whether it's

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<v Speaker 1>bringing them a very healthy meal or getting them away

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<v Speaker 1>to get them whatever it is, maybe just think about

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<v Speaker 1>their health.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the worst thing I saw is when people like,

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<v Speaker 2>let me know if you need anything, and like, I'm

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<v Speaker 2>never going to ask you.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So it was the people who just showed up at

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<v Speaker 2>the doorstep with food. It was the people who said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, well, a lot of people didn't do this,

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<v Speaker 2>but it would be my dream for other people, at

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<v Speaker 2>least when something's happening, go see them, ask them what

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<v Speaker 2>they need in person. They're going to know that you're

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<v Speaker 2>being genuine because you actually showed up in person. Take

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<v Speaker 2>their kids out for them, give them a break, send

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<v Speaker 2>them to a massage, send them away to a day spa.

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<v Speaker 2>Do whatever you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Be proactive and do it. Yes, don't wait for someone

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<v Speaker 1>to ask. Nobody's going to ask.

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<v Speaker 2>No one's ever going to ask.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's great advice. All right. I want to end

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<v Speaker 1>on a little lighter note. Well, I think literally and

0:22:36.480 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>figuratively this is a lighter note. And I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay. Jna del Rey is getting slammed for wearing

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<v Speaker 1>a white dress to a wedding. Oh so, and I

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<v Speaker 1>also think she was wearing she.

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<v Speaker 2>Couldn't have did that. Once I wore like a it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a smidge off white to Kim Kardakin's wedding.

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<v Speaker 2>I looked back and I was like, oh, did you

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<v Speaker 2>did you actually pay attention Maria?

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<v Speaker 1>You did you catch any crap for it?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

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<v Speaker 1>No, no, you know what?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh I think we were supposed to.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh it was like a like a white Okay. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's this thing, because I just recently looked back at

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<v Speaker 1>the pace.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, Mario, what were you thinking everybody was wearing white?

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was black and white.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. So I will say there are themed weddings where

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, hey, everybody were on a beach where white

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<v Speaker 1>or like you said, maybe Kim Kardashian's wedding, which I

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<v Speaker 1>was not invited to, But great wedding, drop, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>wear black and white. Okay. So but if it's just

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<v Speaker 1>a typical wedding, like I don't know if yours was typical.

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<v Speaker 1>You got married in Times Square by Steve Harvey, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean that's not typical.

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<v Speaker 2>Married in Greece in my dad's village. So we did

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<v Speaker 2>two weddings that year.

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<v Speaker 1>So what was the wedding like in Times Square with

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<v Speaker 1>Steve Harvey officiating?

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<v Speaker 2>Amazing the best?

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<v Speaker 1>I love Steve Harvey. By the way.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he's awesome, and uh, we surprised my parents. It

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<v Speaker 2>was soon after my mom had been diagnosed of the

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<v Speaker 2>brain tumor, so it was like their dream. And so

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<v Speaker 2>we did it and everyone was invited. But I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>have to do with anybody, and.

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<v Speaker 1>You didn't have to clean up the Times Square afterwards.

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<v Speaker 1>I would just say rule of thumb, don't don't wear

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<v Speaker 1>white to somebody's wedding unless you've been asked to or

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<v Speaker 1>maybe it's been pre approved. But if you have to

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<v Speaker 1>even go to the bride and say, hey, do you

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<v Speaker 1>mind if I wear this white dress, You're already being

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<v Speaker 1>a pain in the butt. Don't be a pain in

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<v Speaker 1>the butt to the bride.

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<v Speaker 2>Get another color, a long white dress.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I look, I don't think it was a flowy dress.

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<v Speaker 2>I want to see because honestly, she's a star. She

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<v Speaker 2>should be able to show up in anything she wants.

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<v Speaker 2>They're lucky she showed up.

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<v Speaker 1>This was Margaret Qually's a wedding to Jack Antonov over

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<v Speaker 1>the weekend in New Jersey, and apparently a lacy pink

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<v Speaker 1>and white mini dress. So mini dress, so spink and white.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the thing is think of Lona del Ray

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<v Speaker 1>as the gateway drug to get us to the conversation

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<v Speaker 1>of the white dress, because I also think she had

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<v Speaker 1>questionable footwear on, like a croc type sandal, which some

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<v Speaker 1>people are defending because they're saying, well, she was going

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<v Speaker 1>to be dancing on the dance floor, why not wear

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<v Speaker 1>comfortable shoes.

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<v Speaker 2>I wore boots in her my wedding dresses.

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<v Speaker 1>I would say this though, as someone who's about to

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<v Speaker 1>get married, and Lauren will be wearing a white wedding dress.

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<v Speaker 2>But you guys haven't gotten married yet. No, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't know that.

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<v Speaker 1>I know we're not as long as you and Kevin went,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're getting there. Okay, how long because you and

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<v Speaker 1>Kevin were together for how long before?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was like twenty years I think when

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<v Speaker 2>we got married.

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<v Speaker 1>That's impressive. No, it's only five. We just celebrated our

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<v Speaker 1>fifth anniversary. So that's nothing. That's nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's nothing. Yeah, we waited a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>And so she's going to wear white, and Lauren has

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<v Speaker 1>kind of curated what she wants people to wear anyway,

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<v Speaker 1>because that's Lauren the producer. But if someone showed up

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<v Speaker 1>in a white flowy dress, I just think that would

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<v Speaker 1>be a fashion.

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<v Speaker 2>But I'm looking at what Lana's wearing here. It's white

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<v Speaker 2>and pink, it's a little summer dress, and she's wearing

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<v Speaker 2>comfy footwear. Good for her. I don't disagree with the

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<v Speaker 2>comfy footwear.

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<v Speaker 1>So we're going to say on the Maria Minuno scale,

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<v Speaker 1>not offensive. I'm not offended now, not offendive, but she

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<v Speaker 1>could do better with the footwear.

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<v Speaker 2>I like them. They're comfy.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you do like them.

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<v Speaker 2>If you see what I wore under mind, I wore

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<v Speaker 2>literal boots. We went to pay Less, I bought the

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<v Speaker 2>wardrobe girl bought twenty dollars cowboy boots, little ankle ones

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<v Speaker 2>under my dress in Times Square because my friend wanted

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<v Speaker 2>me to wear sandals. I go, are you high? So

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<v Speaker 2>cold and below? I'm not doing fashion for you. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>going to be warm.

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<v Speaker 1>It's going to be frizy in Greece.

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<v Speaker 2>I just knew it was going to be on my

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<v Speaker 2>feet all the time. So we put boots, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>comfy like ug like boots under my wedding dress. No

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<v Speaker 2>one ever knew, and I'm very grateful I did it, and.

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<v Speaker 1>I love that you guys went twenty years before you

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<v Speaker 1>got married.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, here, we needed to make sure I was the one.

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<v Speaker 1>I think vice versa. That's how that goes.

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<v Speaker 2>It went so long and then eventually like crisis had

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<v Speaker 2>to happen for us to be like, you know what,

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<v Speaker 2>let's do this.

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<v Speaker 1>Marie Minus. I appreciate it. I thank you for filling

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<v Speaker 1>in for Lauren Zima and Hope.

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<v Speaker 2>I was able to bring some light.

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<v Speaker 1>You brought a lot of light. I got all the

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<v Speaker 1>melatonin I need out of this, and my circadian rhythm

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<v Speaker 1>is beaten to the drum. But more importantly, I want

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<v Speaker 1>to continue this discussion. Let's get together. I would like

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<v Speaker 1>to have another discussion because I want to get into

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<v Speaker 1>your podcast, Heel squad, what that does, how that started,

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<v Speaker 1>the meaning behind it, obviously all of your health stuff,

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<v Speaker 1>your mom and where you are now on this journey,

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<v Speaker 1>because that is an incredible story. So for those of

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<v Speaker 1>you that know Maria and you want to hear that,

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<v Speaker 1>we are going to add that podcast as well. If

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<v Speaker 1>you don't know Maria, you need to hear this story

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<v Speaker 1>because she just has such great perspectives, such great light

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<v Speaker 1>and knowledge on all of this as she has lived it.

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<v Speaker 1>As you say, walk a mile in somebody's shoes. She's

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<v Speaker 1>walked six miles, so I look forward to that conversation

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<v Speaker 1>coming up very soon with you. Thank you fun, and

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<v Speaker 1>in the meantime, thank you for listening. Always appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>As I said, LZ will be back next week. In

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<v Speaker 1>the meantime, my thanks to Maria Minunos of her podcast

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<v Speaker 1>Heal Squad. Give that a listen. In the meantime, I

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<v Speaker 1>will talk to you very soon because we have a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us

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