Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast.
Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin,
Speaker 1: Texas today, I'm Solow. For now I will have a
Speaker 1: guest host, but it is not the beautiful, talented Elz.
Speaker 2: She is.
Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to tell you what she's doing.
Speaker 1: It is amazing and beautiful. Guys, When I tell you,
Speaker 1: this woman has the heart the size of the state
Speaker 1: of Texas. What she is doing, it's her story, so
Speaker 1: I want her to tell it and it will be
Speaker 1: a part of our podcast. We'll talk about it next week.
Speaker 1: But it is a beautiful thing. I can't wait for
Speaker 1: her to get home. But she has gone this entire week,
Speaker 1: and it is true, when Elz goes, it's like I've
Speaker 1: lost ten people in this house because that's how many
Speaker 1: personalities are gone with her. So the light has gone
Speaker 1: out of the house here in Austin. But she will
Speaker 1: be back next week. But in the meantime, I am
Speaker 1: bringing in some light a beautiful woman. And I mean
Speaker 1: that in a holistic, spiritual, charismatic, intelligent way. Maria Menunos,
Speaker 1: host of her own amazing podcast, Heel Squad, joins me
Speaker 1: to try and fill those shoes of Elsie. Maria, thank
Speaker 1: you so much for being here.
Speaker 2: I will do my best.
Speaker 1: I know you will. You're a pro. I know that
Speaker 1: we have worked alongside each other for years and years
Speaker 1: and years, but you have also just survived the big LA.
Speaker 1: What are they are they calling it the hurriquake, the
Speaker 1: hurricane earthquake.
Speaker 2: It sounds like Sharknado to me.
Speaker 1: It really was Hurricane twenty twenty three.
Speaker 2: Oh, you know, it was great. We were making some
Speaker 2: you know, renovations in the back guesthouse and the yard
Speaker 2: was a mess, and I was like, we have a
Speaker 2: hurricane coming. We gotta, you know, get everything cleared. It
Speaker 2: brought to higher ground so the whole place got pristine
Speaker 2: just because of that. So I was so happy. It
Speaker 2: was all good.
Speaker 1: We just had one blow through Texas as well, kind
Speaker 1: of a tropical storm, bunch heavy rain and all that.
Speaker 1: And someone I heard, one of the kids in the
Speaker 1: neighborhood asking if they were going to be out of
Speaker 1: school because they heard all the LA kids got to
Speaker 1: take a day off of school because it rained really hard.
Speaker 1: I said, no, that doesn't happen anywhere else. I appreciate
Speaker 1: you filling in. You have a beautiful, wonderful story, a
Speaker 1: beautiful wonderful family, your husband Kevin, your daughter Athena that
Speaker 1: I think is two months now, Yes, and I love it.
Speaker 1: You said you just got back from the doctor's office,
Speaker 1: the pediatrician, and you were gushing about Athena because she
Speaker 1: is top percentile, ready to go, ready to go to college.
Speaker 1: I believe was what the doctor said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we're thinking right next year, she's going to college. No,
Speaker 2: it's funny. She was a big baby when she was born.
Speaker 2: She was eight pounds thirteen ounces. She was like, I
Speaker 2: don't know, twenty one inches long or something like that.
Speaker 2: So when we went to the doctor to she was like, oh,
Speaker 2: my goodness, she's she's tracking like a four month old.
Speaker 2: I was like what, She's like, yeah, she's a big girl.
Speaker 2: So she's almost fourteen pounds, she's twenty four inches long. Oh,
Speaker 2: two months already teething.
Speaker 1: And it's funny because.
Speaker 2: We're all like, oh, we see teeth, and everyone's like,
Speaker 2: are you crazy. I'm like, no, she's teeth. And I'm like, look,
Speaker 2: she wants to talk. You can see your little tongue
Speaker 2: and everyone's like what, And I'm like she's advanced.
Speaker 1: I always love that, you know, like as a parent,
Speaker 1: there's always the moments, no matter what it is, we
Speaker 1: find a way to like, you know, yeah, be very
Speaker 1: braggadocious about our kids.
Speaker 2: Totally. Oh no, she's so they're all advanced.
Speaker 1: We should be. We should be.
Speaker 2: It's just fun, you know. The nurse was like, she's
Speaker 2: so advanced in the very beginning, so we stuck with that.
Speaker 2: Everything she did was like, well, she's advanced.
Speaker 1: Of course, of course she's speaking French. I mean she's
Speaker 1: two months old. She's going to be walking at three months?
Speaker 1: Is the to the contrary? I remember my mom told
Speaker 1: me it was I'm not sure if it was my
Speaker 1: brother and myself who wasn't walking early enough, you know,
Speaker 1: at eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen months, which is typically when
Speaker 1: the child starts walking. And the pediatrician looked at my
Speaker 1: mom and said, Mary Beth, relax, I've never known a
Speaker 1: child to go to kindergarten without learning to walk. It's okay,
Speaker 1: they're going to figure it out.
Speaker 2: Well, I was advanced. I walked it eight months, but
Speaker 2: I also had cooked legs, so I was forrest gump.
Speaker 2: I had to wear leg breezes. Oh, really poor shoes.
Speaker 2: So I'm looking at her and I'm like, oh, she's
Speaker 2: going to walk it like six months for sure.
Speaker 1: That is funny. Well, a beautiful Athena. I appreciate you
Speaker 1: taking time away because I know you have to get
Speaker 1: back to her, But I want to run through what's
Speaker 1: going on in the world, because obviously you are. I'm
Speaker 1: a baby world, so you got nothing, baby brain? Are
Speaker 1: you a Swiftie?
Speaker 2: I love Taylor Swift. I'm not a big like music person.
Speaker 2: I listened to a lot of Greek music and like
Speaker 2: Italian music.
Speaker 1: And you come from a very Greek family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love Taylor and I love you know,
Speaker 2: listen to Kiss one O eight and listen to stuff.
Speaker 1: I know. She just left LA and it was like
Speaker 1: a thing. I actually made a joke. Are you even
Speaker 1: in La right now? If you're not posting from the
Speaker 1: Taylor Swift concert? Because it seemed like everybody was at
Speaker 1: this show, which is amazing, which goes.
Speaker 2: To into one before she was amazing.
Speaker 1: She yes, she puts on unbelieving And obviously the success
Speaker 1: of this tour, the Eras tour, has been amazing. But
Speaker 1: the big headline that just came out was that she
Speaker 1: reportedly declined to headline the twenty twenty four Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: NFL clearly came after her and said, would you please
Speaker 1: be our halftime show, the coveted halftime spot, and she
Speaker 1: said no for a couple of reasons. I think logistics wise,
Speaker 1: she is going to be doing this eras tour overseas.
Speaker 1: I think she may be in Japan around then. Not
Speaker 1: that there aren't jets that she owns that could fly
Speaker 1: her back for that one show, but she has declined
Speaker 1: because the other thing, and I don't know if you
Speaker 1: know this, you don't get paid for that halftime show.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did hear that. I think j Loo
Speaker 2: said that.
Speaker 1: It is essentially an honor, which is hysterical because you
Speaker 1: are helping them make hundreds of millions of dollars, but
Speaker 1: it is an honor for you to play the halftime show.
Speaker 1: And I think she's like, I'm good, thank you.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got plenty of money. I don't need your advertisement.
Speaker 1: Right hawking Pepsi at their halftime show. But it is
Speaker 1: amazing she has gotten so big. There was who was it?
Speaker 1: Billy Joel said that he hasn't seen anything like this
Speaker 1: since Beatlemania, the mania that's surrounding Taylor Swift, it is
Speaker 1: pretty wild.
Speaker 2: Wait, so is she bigger than Beyonce?
Speaker 1: I think she's beyond eclipse to beyond say, no way,
Speaker 1: I mean definitely in money, definitely in tours and money
Speaker 1: she's going, Maria, She's going to have at the end
Speaker 1: of this, we'll have the biggest, highest earning, largest tour
Speaker 1: in the history of music, beating Elton John's Goodbye Tour. Yes,
Speaker 1: it's yeah, not even close. This woman is absolutely a
Speaker 1: force of nature. So it's it's pretty wild. So no,
Speaker 1: but no, no halftime show unless Pepsi wants to really
Speaker 1: pony up some cash to get Taylor Swift back.
Speaker 2: Hey, maybe she'll set the new precedent where people do
Speaker 2: have to get paid exactly.
Speaker 1: Someone's getting slightly nil deals in college football. Enough of
Speaker 1: the free ride. Did you watch the two documentaries on
Speaker 1: the fire festivals?
Speaker 2: Were great?
Speaker 1: So great? Well you know that. So the Billy McFarlane
Speaker 1: guy who did all that, you know, he went to jail.
Speaker 1: He was sentenced to six years and he got out
Speaker 1: for good behavior. I'm not sure what that is, but
Speaker 1: he came out firing pun intended. Maria he's selling tickets
Speaker 1: and spinning Fire Festival too.
Speaker 2: I heard because Kevin told me this. I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, people have no shame. They just by the way.
Speaker 2: He's figuring it out because he's got a popularity. Now,
Speaker 2: he's got a name that people recognize.
Speaker 1: If you don't know. So the Fire Festival was this
Speaker 1: not the worst idea. It was just the most epic
Speaker 1: fail of execution in the history of all ideas. Apparently
Speaker 1: he wrote down this fifty page maybe manifesto you could
Speaker 1: call it, of how to do it right this time.
Speaker 1: So he's coming out ready to go with Fire Festival too.
Speaker 1: I agree with you, buyer, Beware what performers, what manager
Speaker 1: is going to say? Yeah, definitely, I'm going to have
Speaker 1: imagine Dragons sign up for this one or Maroon five
Speaker 1: real quick, that's going to happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but watch somehow this guy's going to figure it out, Chris,
Speaker 2: and it's going to be huge next year.
Speaker 1: He'll get them fire.
Speaker 2: She will be like, let's just see if he can
Speaker 2: do it. I bet anything. You know, it's not a
Speaker 2: lot of time to figure it out in jail.
Speaker 1: I see another documentary in his future. I know you're
Speaker 1: big on love and you're big on relationships, and obviously
Speaker 1: we know who Jennifer Aniston is. She came out in
Speaker 1: an article recently where she said it's still a challenge
Speaker 1: her quote to be in a relationship because of her parents' dynamic.
Speaker 1: Jennifer went on to say she was getting candid in
Speaker 1: this that her relationships, her parents' relationship, affected the way
Speaker 1: that she approaches her her own and that she's opened
Speaker 1: up about the impact of her mother and father's dynamic,
Speaker 1: and that she was kind of alone a lot and
Speaker 1: she doesn't see a relationship that she can give to
Speaker 1: and that she kind of just likes her own way
Speaker 1: and wants to do things make herself happy and doesn't
Speaker 1: want to give up on that. I found it was
Speaker 1: very I don't know if sad's the word, but unfortunate
Speaker 1: to have this beautiful person on so many levels. And
Speaker 1: as she even said, I'm so successful at everything else,
Speaker 1: but I'm not successful at this.
Speaker 2: I really love her. She's so lovable and warm.
Speaker 1: It's you know, America's sweetheart. It's Jennifer Aniston. It's like
Speaker 1: Julia Roberts. But you know what I find interesting is
Speaker 1: and I guess what I would tell her is if
Speaker 1: she was sitting on this couch or anybody else. A
Speaker 1: relationship and love is not about losing yourself, at least
Speaker 1: it shouldn't be. You are not losing yourself as much
Speaker 1: as you're getting a value out in your life. You know,
Speaker 1: for you, it's Kevin, for me it's Lauren. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I've lost any of my individuality. I don't
Speaker 1: feel like I've lost any friends. I haven't. I think
Speaker 1: I'm probably more fun than I ever was because Lauren's
Speaker 1: so damn fun. But I don't feel that that's a relationship.
Speaker 1: And what she's kind of explaining sounds more toxic to
Speaker 1: me of if I'm in a relationship, I will lose
Speaker 1: myself and.
Speaker 2: I well, she's got a lot of trauma obviously that
Speaker 2: she's I'm sure worked through and been working on. But
Speaker 2: maybe she needs some EMDR. And that is EMDR. Is
Speaker 2: this really amazing therapy that they use on like returning
Speaker 2: vets for PTSD, which she probably has with her her
Speaker 2: family dynamic, and it's you know, Harvard's done so many
Speaker 2: studies on it. It's pretty amazing. You know, maybe that
Speaker 2: would help her because you're right, like it is supposed
Speaker 2: to be something you don't have to give yourself up for. However,
Speaker 2: we as talent soak up a lot of attention and
Speaker 2: have a lot of needs and are used to having
Speaker 2: a lot. So maybe she needs like a good dentist.
Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was before you just kind
Speaker 1: of said that. I was saying my next bit of
Speaker 1: advice would be find someone out of the industry. Go
Speaker 1: find just a normal, you know, edge fund manager. It
Speaker 1: is I it is, you know. I think Charlie's their
Speaker 1: own said that one time of like, I'm single, I
Speaker 1: would love to date, but no one's going to approach me.
Speaker 1: And it's amazing. You would think, oh my gosh, come on,
Speaker 1: Charlie's Jennifer Aniston. Yeah, but it's actually not that easy
Speaker 1: because most people will not approach them, and if they do,
Speaker 1: they don't approach them in the right way. Genuinely. Yes,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 2: Well, also, there's so many things about interacting with the
Speaker 2: celebrity that a non celebrity would never know, and there's
Speaker 2: so many boundaries you really have to be careful not
Speaker 2: to cross. And then it's just it's it's a really
Speaker 2: hard thing for someone who's not in the loop. To
Speaker 2: really understand how to engage with people properly, and so
Speaker 2: we can't just she can go to like a small
Speaker 2: town and do her thing for a little bit, or
Speaker 2: she can't stay there. She can't, you can't, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know. It's really hard to explain.
Speaker 1: Well, Taylor Swift is a great example. Not to go
Speaker 1: back to Taylor. I am a swifty by the way
Speaker 1: you can tell. But she went to a wedding I
Speaker 1: think it was this week or maybe last week, and
Speaker 1: it got out in this small town that she was there.
Speaker 1: When she walked out, everyone within twenty towns was there,
Speaker 1: mobbing the place.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: That is the kind of like moth to a flame
Speaker 1: attention you get when you were in.
Speaker 2: The wedding, right and then ps. There's also like I've
Speaker 2: been in situations where I've gone to weddings and once
Speaker 2: people got the booze in them, that's when they started
Speaker 2: taking potshots. Yeah, oh you think your fancy. You know,
Speaker 2: they're insecurities and inadequacies come out, and then they have
Speaker 2: to hurt you because they're feeling lesser for some reason,
Speaker 2: and so the pot shots would come out. And Kevin's like,
Speaker 2: you can't do this. Anymore, And I was like, why
Speaker 2: would people be like this? Like I have no problem obviously,
Speaker 2: and I'm not Jennifer Aniston, but like we live in
Speaker 2: a small town in Connecticut. I have no problem. I
Speaker 2: go to the local pie's place, we have great time.
Speaker 2: Like I I am okay mixing in those arenas. But
Speaker 2: sometimes you get people who don't know how to be
Speaker 2: and they are very inappropriate and I'm kind, and so
Speaker 2: it can be tough.
Speaker 1: I always said there was this there's this point in
Speaker 1: the night where everybody goes from being super sweet and
Speaker 1: nice to that crossing the line touchy feely or saying
Speaker 1: stuff that like the filter is off, and maybe it's
Speaker 1: just their true feelings, but you know I and it's
Speaker 1: for me. It was always guys because of the show
Speaker 1: I hosted for twenty years. Obviously a lot of women
Speaker 1: watched it, and naturally they would just come up and
Speaker 1: kind of start talking. It was the icebreaker, and guys
Speaker 1: always took that the weird or the wrong way as
Speaker 1: if they were threatened by me, which I couldn't be
Speaker 1: less threatening as a human being, but guys would just
Speaker 1: get a little insecure, and so they would start popping
Speaker 1: off or whatever, And typically I would just immediately diffuse
Speaker 1: it by buying him a drink, trying to buy everyone
Speaker 1: a drink or whatever. But you just have to remove yourself.
Speaker 1: And oftentimes you would be at a big event or
Speaker 1: somewhere and you realized at ten thirty at night, you're
Speaker 1: back in your hotel room while everybody is still down partying,
Speaker 1: because you just kind of had to get away from
Speaker 1: it all. And it's weird you're sitting there alone, going, wait,
Speaker 1: why am I not down there? Yeah, and again times
Speaker 1: ten or times one thousand, is Jennifer Aniston or Charlie's
Speaker 1: or anybody else trying to live that life? So but
Speaker 1: I agree, I would say if she can a what
Speaker 1: you're kind of explaining as a toxic relationship, don't lose yourself,
Speaker 1: find someone who's a value add and maybe get out
Speaker 1: of the industry. Yeah, this next story, I lest your mom,
Speaker 1: and due to a brain cancer. In twenty twenty one,
Speaker 1: Olivia Newton John obviously passed away as well, and her
Speaker 1: daughter Chloe revealed that she has had health issues. And
Speaker 1: this is something I know that you've talked about caretakers
Speaker 1: having health issues for after the person that they were
Speaker 1: taken care of actually passes away or is deathly ill.
Speaker 1: And that's something you can relate to, and it's something
Speaker 1: you talk about a lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally understand that there are actual statistics about
Speaker 2: caregivers dying before the patients they take care of. So,
Speaker 2: for example, and I have this in my phone because
Speaker 2: it's just so alarming to me, there are forty three
Speaker 2: million unpaid caregivers, mostly women. Stanford found forty percent of
Speaker 2: Alzheimer's and dementia patients die before the patient that they're
Speaker 2: caregiving for. And I also know that the clinic that
Speaker 2: I would take my mom to in Mexico was founded
Speaker 2: by a woman who got cancer taking care of her
Speaker 2: mother with cancer. Caregiving is excruciatingly hard and it really
Speaker 2: does take its toll on your body. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I had help, and it was still a lot, So
Speaker 2: I can I can totally understand that.
Speaker 1: And that's what you know. Chloe so Olivia Newton John
Speaker 1: obviously she died of breast cancer last off ugus and
Speaker 1: she said, since my mom's passing and the year and
Speaker 1: a half with her going through cancer, I've not been okay.
Speaker 1: I have forgotten to return commitments and I have been
Speaker 1: neglecting myself. One of my mom's biggest messages was to
Speaker 1: take care of you. If you don't take care of you,
Speaker 1: you can't give your full capacity of love, wisdom, kindness
Speaker 1: and power to everyone else. She got lost in all this,
Speaker 1: and that is something that as people that are listening
Speaker 1: to this, obviously, it's something we can all relate to
Speaker 1: that have lost a loved one and watch someone die
Speaker 1: of cancer or whatever the illness was. It is hard
Speaker 1: to say, take care of you, but it is amazingly
Speaker 1: important to do so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no roadmap for that. First well, there's
Speaker 2: like no roadmap for how to handle any of this.
Speaker 2: I thought I was taking care of myself, right. I
Speaker 2: had a nurse helping me with my mom, and I
Speaker 2: had my husband and my dad, And there were moments
Speaker 2: where I took a break, yeah, and went to the
Speaker 2: other coast and caught my breath. I mean, I did
Speaker 2: all of the things that I thought were going above
Speaker 2: and beyond what normal people would do in terms of
Speaker 2: taking care of you, and you know, whatever it was.
Speaker 2: I get a massage where I did all those things
Speaker 2: and I still ended up with so much.
Speaker 1: So do do you have any advice. What's our takeaway
Speaker 1: to Chloe or the Chloe's of the world is we're
Speaker 1: all going to face this probably at some point in
Speaker 1: our life.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I really think first of all, we have to
Speaker 2: fix the caregiving situation in our country because nursing homes
Speaker 2: are really really rough for people. Caregiving at home is
Speaker 2: excruciatingly expensive. Even people who have a lot of resources
Speaker 2: can't afford it. That's how hard it is. And so
Speaker 2: we have to figure out how to get care giving
Speaker 2: covered by insurance. It just has to happen. It used
Speaker 2: to happen. Used to pay for an extra insurance so
Speaker 2: when you got older, you got sick, you would be
Speaker 2: able to have care at home. Now in New York,
Speaker 2: I remember seeing the commercials where they will advertise if
Speaker 2: you want to stay home and take care of your
Speaker 2: family member, they'll pay you to stay home and take
Speaker 2: care of your parent or something. Because there's forty three
Speaker 2: million unpaid caregivers. That means now you're already going broke
Speaker 2: because of whatever the illness is, and your health insurance
Speaker 2: is only covering so much. But now you also have
Speaker 2: to quit your job to take care of your family member.
Speaker 2: So we have to fix that. But it's awareness, it's
Speaker 2: really understanding how sick you can get by taking care
Speaker 2: of someone. It doesn't mean we're not going to do
Speaker 2: the job. We're going to do the job. We're going
Speaker 2: to take care of our moms and our dads and
Speaker 2: our family members. But just being really aware and cognizant
Speaker 2: of taking care of yourself nutritionally and emotionally, making sure
Speaker 2: you're talking to somebody getting those feelings out. You know,
Speaker 2: we talk about like the fascia in your body really
Speaker 2: stores a lot of emotions, so it's like doing some
Speaker 2: like fascia work and all kinds of things. There's so
Speaker 2: much stuff you can be doing, so you have to
Speaker 2: really be aware.
Speaker 1: So maybe the takeaway be mindful of yourself. But also
Speaker 1: if you know someone who's going through this, a friend,
Speaker 1: a loved one, be mindful of them and what they're
Speaker 1: going through and try and take extra care of I
Speaker 1: know we all think, oh, I'm sorry, Maria about your mom,
Speaker 1: but think deeper about their health and things maybe you
Speaker 1: can do to take care of them, and whether it's
Speaker 1: bringing them a very healthy meal or getting them away
Speaker 1: to get them whatever it is, maybe just think about
Speaker 1: their health.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the worst thing I saw is when people like,
Speaker 2: let me know if you need anything, and like, I'm
Speaker 2: never going to ask you.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: So it was the people who just showed up at
Speaker 2: the doorstep with food. It was the people who said,
Speaker 2: you know, well, a lot of people didn't do this,
Speaker 2: but it would be my dream for other people, at
Speaker 2: least when something's happening, go see them, ask them what
Speaker 2: they need in person. They're going to know that you're
Speaker 2: being genuine because you actually showed up in person. Take
Speaker 2: their kids out for them, give them a break, send
Speaker 2: them to a massage, send them away to a day spa.
Speaker 2: Do whatever you can.
Speaker 1: Be proactive and do it. Yes, don't wait for someone
Speaker 1: to ask. Nobody's going to ask.
Speaker 2: No one's ever going to ask.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great advice. All right. I want to end
Speaker 1: on a little lighter note. Well, I think literally and
Speaker 1: figuratively this is a lighter note. And I'm not sure
Speaker 1: it's okay. Jna del Rey is getting slammed for wearing
Speaker 1: a white dress to a wedding. Oh so, and I
Speaker 1: also think she was wearing she.
Speaker 2: Couldn't have did that. Once I wore like a it
Speaker 2: was like a smidge off white to Kim Kardakin's wedding.
Speaker 2: I looked back and I was like, oh, did you
Speaker 2: did you actually pay attention Maria?
Speaker 1: You did you catch any crap for it?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 1: No, no, you know what?
Speaker 2: Oh I think we were supposed to.
Speaker 1: Oh it was like a like a white Okay. So
Speaker 1: that's this thing, because I just recently looked back at
Speaker 1: the pace.
Speaker 2: She's like, Mario, what were you thinking everybody was wearing white?
Speaker 2: I think it was black and white.
Speaker 1: Okay. So I will say there are themed weddings where
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, everybody were on a beach where white
Speaker 1: or like you said, maybe Kim Kardashian's wedding, which I
Speaker 1: was not invited to, But great wedding, drop, you know,
Speaker 1: wear black and white. Okay. So but if it's just
Speaker 1: a typical wedding, like I don't know if yours was typical.
Speaker 1: You got married in Times Square by Steve Harvey, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean that's not typical.
Speaker 2: Married in Greece in my dad's village. So we did
Speaker 2: two weddings that year.
Speaker 1: So what was the wedding like in Times Square with
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey officiating?
Speaker 2: Amazing the best?
Speaker 1: I love Steve Harvey. By the way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's awesome, and uh, we surprised my parents. It
Speaker 2: was soon after my mom had been diagnosed of the
Speaker 2: brain tumor, so it was like their dream. And so
Speaker 2: we did it and everyone was invited. But I didn't
Speaker 2: have to do with anybody, and.
Speaker 1: You didn't have to clean up the Times Square afterwards.
Speaker 1: I would just say rule of thumb, don't don't wear
Speaker 1: white to somebody's wedding unless you've been asked to or
Speaker 1: maybe it's been pre approved. But if you have to
Speaker 1: even go to the bride and say, hey, do you
Speaker 1: mind if I wear this white dress, You're already being
Speaker 1: a pain in the butt. Don't be a pain in
Speaker 1: the butt to the bride.
Speaker 2: Get another color, a long white dress.
Speaker 1: No, I look, I don't think it was a flowy dress.
Speaker 2: I want to see because honestly, she's a star. She
Speaker 2: should be able to show up in anything she wants.
Speaker 2: They're lucky she showed up.
Speaker 1: This was Margaret Qually's a wedding to Jack Antonov over
Speaker 1: the weekend in New Jersey, and apparently a lacy pink
Speaker 1: and white mini dress. So mini dress, so spink and white.
Speaker 1: So that's the thing is think of Lona del Ray
Speaker 1: as the gateway drug to get us to the conversation
Speaker 1: of the white dress, because I also think she had
Speaker 1: questionable footwear on, like a croc type sandal, which some
Speaker 1: people are defending because they're saying, well, she was going
Speaker 1: to be dancing on the dance floor, why not wear
Speaker 1: comfortable shoes.
Speaker 2: I wore boots in her my wedding dresses.
Speaker 1: I would say this though, as someone who's about to
Speaker 1: get married, and Lauren will be wearing a white wedding dress.
Speaker 2: But you guys haven't gotten married yet. No, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: I didn't know that.
Speaker 1: I know we're not as long as you and Kevin went,
Speaker 1: but we're getting there. Okay, how long because you and
Speaker 1: Kevin were together for how long before?
Speaker 2: I mean it was like twenty years I think when
Speaker 2: we got married.
Speaker 1: That's impressive. No, it's only five. We just celebrated our
Speaker 1: fifth anniversary. So that's nothing. That's nothing.
Speaker 2: That's nothing. Yeah, we waited a long time.
Speaker 1: And so she's going to wear white, and Lauren has
Speaker 1: kind of curated what she wants people to wear anyway,
Speaker 1: because that's Lauren the producer. But if someone showed up
Speaker 1: in a white flowy dress, I just think that would
Speaker 1: be a fashion.
Speaker 2: But I'm looking at what Lana's wearing here. It's white
Speaker 2: and pink, it's a little summer dress, and she's wearing
Speaker 2: comfy footwear. Good for her. I don't disagree with the
Speaker 2: comfy footwear.
Speaker 1: So we're going to say on the Maria Minuno scale,
Speaker 1: not offensive. I'm not offended now, not offendive, but she
Speaker 1: could do better with the footwear.
Speaker 2: I like them. They're comfy.
Speaker 1: Oh you do like them.
Speaker 2: If you see what I wore under mind, I wore
Speaker 2: literal boots. We went to pay Less, I bought the
Speaker 2: wardrobe girl bought twenty dollars cowboy boots, little ankle ones
Speaker 2: under my dress in Times Square because my friend wanted
Speaker 2: me to wear sandals. I go, are you high? So
Speaker 2: cold and below? I'm not doing fashion for you. I'm
Speaker 2: going to be warm.
Speaker 1: It's going to be frizy in Greece.
Speaker 2: I just knew it was going to be on my
Speaker 2: feet all the time. So we put boots, you know,
Speaker 2: comfy like ug like boots under my wedding dress. No
Speaker 2: one ever knew, and I'm very grateful I did it, and.
Speaker 1: I love that you guys went twenty years before you
Speaker 1: got married.
Speaker 2: Yeah, here, we needed to make sure I was the one.
Speaker 1: I think vice versa. That's how that goes.
Speaker 2: It went so long and then eventually like crisis had
Speaker 2: to happen for us to be like, you know what,
Speaker 2: let's do this.
Speaker 1: Marie Minus. I appreciate it. I thank you for filling
Speaker 1: in for Lauren Zima and Hope.
Speaker 2: I was able to bring some light.
Speaker 1: You brought a lot of light. I got all the
Speaker 1: melatonin I need out of this, and my circadian rhythm
Speaker 1: is beaten to the drum. But more importantly, I want
Speaker 1: to continue this discussion. Let's get together. I would like
Speaker 1: to have another discussion because I want to get into
Speaker 1: your podcast, Heel squad, what that does, how that started,
Speaker 1: the meaning behind it, obviously all of your health stuff,
Speaker 1: your mom and where you are now on this journey,
Speaker 1: because that is an incredible story. So for those of
Speaker 1: you that know Maria and you want to hear that,
Speaker 1: we are going to add that podcast as well. If
Speaker 1: you don't know Maria, you need to hear this story
Speaker 1: because she just has such great perspectives, such great light
Speaker 1: and knowledge on all of this as she has lived it.
Speaker 1: As you say, walk a mile in somebody's shoes. She's
Speaker 1: walked six miles, so I look forward to that conversation
Speaker 1: coming up very soon with you. Thank you fun, and
Speaker 1: in the meantime, thank you for listening. Always appreciate it.
Speaker 1: As I said, LZ will be back next week. In
Speaker 1: the meantime, my thanks to Maria Minunos of her podcast
Speaker 1: Heal Squad. Give that a listen. In the meantime, I
Speaker 1: will talk to you very soon because we have a
Speaker 1: lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us
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