1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:06,000 Speaker 1: This is the most dramatic podcast ever and iHeartRadio podcast. 2 00:00:08,160 --> 00:00:10,520 Speaker 1: Chris Harrison coming to you from the home office in Austin, 3 00:00:10,600 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: Texas today, I'm Solow. For now I will have a 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,600 Speaker 1: guest host, but it is not the beautiful, talented Elz. 5 00:00:18,320 --> 00:00:18,840 Speaker 2: She is. 6 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:20,840 Speaker 1: Well, I'm not going to tell you what she's doing. 7 00:00:22,280 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: It is amazing and beautiful. Guys, When I tell you, 8 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: this woman has the heart the size of the state 9 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:31,680 Speaker 1: of Texas. What she is doing, it's her story, so 10 00:00:31,680 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: I want her to tell it and it will be 11 00:00:34,240 --> 00:00:36,760 Speaker 1: a part of our podcast. We'll talk about it next week. 12 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: But it is a beautiful thing. I can't wait for 13 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,120 Speaker 1: her to get home. But she has gone this entire week, 14 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:44,520 Speaker 1: and it is true, when Elz goes, it's like I've 15 00:00:44,560 --> 00:00:47,479 Speaker 1: lost ten people in this house because that's how many 16 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: personalities are gone with her. So the light has gone 17 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,239 Speaker 1: out of the house here in Austin. But she will 18 00:00:53,280 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: be back next week. But in the meantime, I am 19 00:00:56,520 --> 00:01:00,680 Speaker 1: bringing in some light a beautiful woman. And I mean 20 00:01:00,720 --> 00:01:06,240 Speaker 1: that in a holistic, spiritual, charismatic, intelligent way. Maria Menunos, 21 00:01:06,560 --> 00:01:09,920 Speaker 1: host of her own amazing podcast, Heel Squad, joins me 22 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 1: to try and fill those shoes of Elsie. Maria, thank 23 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:14,040 Speaker 1: you so much for being here. 24 00:01:14,640 --> 00:01:15,960 Speaker 2: I will do my best. 25 00:01:16,880 --> 00:01:19,479 Speaker 1: I know you will. You're a pro. I know that 26 00:01:19,520 --> 00:01:22,960 Speaker 1: we have worked alongside each other for years and years 27 00:01:23,000 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: and years, but you have also just survived the big LA. 28 00:01:28,080 --> 00:01:30,280 Speaker 1: What are they are they calling it the hurriquake, the 29 00:01:30,720 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 1: hurricane earthquake. 30 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 2: It sounds like Sharknado to me. 31 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 1: It really was Hurricane twenty twenty three. 32 00:01:37,680 --> 00:01:40,399 Speaker 2: Oh, you know, it was great. We were making some 33 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 2: you know, renovations in the back guesthouse and the yard 34 00:01:44,400 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 2: was a mess, and I was like, we have a 35 00:01:46,600 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 2: hurricane coming. We gotta, you know, get everything cleared. It 36 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:54,160 Speaker 2: brought to higher ground so the whole place got pristine 37 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 2: just because of that. So I was so happy. It 38 00:01:58,960 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 2: was all good. 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: We just had one blow through Texas as well, kind 40 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: of a tropical storm, bunch heavy rain and all that. 41 00:02:04,400 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: And someone I heard, one of the kids in the 42 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,040 Speaker 1: neighborhood asking if they were going to be out of 43 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:11,520 Speaker 1: school because they heard all the LA kids got to 44 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:14,080 Speaker 1: take a day off of school because it rained really hard. 45 00:02:14,160 --> 00:02:17,440 Speaker 1: I said, no, that doesn't happen anywhere else. I appreciate 46 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 1: you filling in. You have a beautiful, wonderful story, a 47 00:02:22,840 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: beautiful wonderful family, your husband Kevin, your daughter Athena that 48 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: I think is two months now, Yes, and I love it. 49 00:02:30,320 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: You said you just got back from the doctor's office, 50 00:02:32,560 --> 00:02:36,200 Speaker 1: the pediatrician, and you were gushing about Athena because she 51 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 1: is top percentile, ready to go, ready to go to college. 52 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: I believe was what the doctor said. 53 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, we're thinking right next year, she's going to college. No, 54 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:48,840 Speaker 2: it's funny. She was a big baby when she was born. 55 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 2: She was eight pounds thirteen ounces. She was like, I 56 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,480 Speaker 2: don't know, twenty one inches long or something like that. 57 00:02:55,200 --> 00:03:02,200 Speaker 2: So when we went to the doctor to she was like, oh, 58 00:03:02,240 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 2: my goodness, she's she's tracking like a four month old. 59 00:03:06,200 --> 00:03:08,359 Speaker 2: I was like what, She's like, yeah, she's a big girl. 60 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:13,040 Speaker 2: So she's almost fourteen pounds, she's twenty four inches long. Oh, 61 00:03:13,080 --> 00:03:15,680 Speaker 2: two months already teething. 62 00:03:17,240 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 1: And it's funny because. 63 00:03:19,320 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 2: We're all like, oh, we see teeth, and everyone's like, 64 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,880 Speaker 2: are you crazy. I'm like, no, she's teeth. And I'm like, look, 65 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:26,919 Speaker 2: she wants to talk. You can see your little tongue 66 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 2: and everyone's like what, And I'm like she's advanced. 67 00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,960 Speaker 1: I always love that, you know, like as a parent, 68 00:03:35,080 --> 00:03:37,960 Speaker 1: there's always the moments, no matter what it is, we 69 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 1: find a way to like, you know, yeah, be very 70 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 1: braggadocious about our kids. 71 00:03:41,880 --> 00:03:44,400 Speaker 2: Totally. Oh no, she's so they're all advanced. 72 00:03:44,440 --> 00:03:45,840 Speaker 1: We should be. We should be. 73 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:48,280 Speaker 2: It's just fun, you know. The nurse was like, she's 74 00:03:48,280 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: so advanced in the very beginning, so we stuck with that. 75 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 2: Everything she did was like, well, she's advanced. 76 00:03:53,360 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Of course, of course she's speaking French. I mean she's 77 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:59,080 Speaker 1: two months old. She's going to be walking at three months? 78 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: Is the to the contrary? I remember my mom told 79 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 1: me it was I'm not sure if it was my 80 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,200 Speaker 1: brother and myself who wasn't walking early enough, you know, 81 00:04:08,240 --> 00:04:10,920 Speaker 1: at eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen months, which is typically when 82 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:14,760 Speaker 1: the child starts walking. And the pediatrician looked at my 83 00:04:14,800 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 1: mom and said, Mary Beth, relax, I've never known a 84 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,240 Speaker 1: child to go to kindergarten without learning to walk. It's okay, 85 00:04:22,279 --> 00:04:23,480 Speaker 1: they're going to figure it out. 86 00:04:24,160 --> 00:04:26,919 Speaker 2: Well, I was advanced. I walked it eight months, but 87 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,719 Speaker 2: I also had cooked legs, so I was forrest gump. 88 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,560 Speaker 2: I had to wear leg breezes. Oh, really poor shoes. 89 00:04:33,120 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 2: So I'm looking at her and I'm like, oh, she's 90 00:04:35,320 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 2: going to walk it like six months for sure. 91 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: That is funny. Well, a beautiful Athena. I appreciate you 92 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: taking time away because I know you have to get 93 00:04:42,960 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 1: back to her, But I want to run through what's 94 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,680 Speaker 1: going on in the world, because obviously you are. I'm 95 00:04:49,720 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 1: a baby world, so you got nothing, baby brain? Are 96 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: you a Swiftie? 97 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:03,440 Speaker 2: I love Taylor Swift. I'm not a big like music person. 98 00:05:03,480 --> 00:05:05,640 Speaker 2: I listened to a lot of Greek music and like 99 00:05:05,839 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: Italian music. 100 00:05:07,040 --> 00:05:09,040 Speaker 1: And you come from a very Greek family. 101 00:05:09,680 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 2: Yeah, but I love Taylor and I love you know, 102 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: listen to Kiss one O eight and listen to stuff. 103 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:18,200 Speaker 1: I know. She just left LA and it was like 104 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 1: a thing. I actually made a joke. Are you even 105 00:05:21,839 --> 00:05:23,919 Speaker 1: in La right now? If you're not posting from the 106 00:05:23,920 --> 00:05:27,719 Speaker 1: Taylor Swift concert? Because it seemed like everybody was at 107 00:05:27,760 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: this show, which is amazing, which goes. 108 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:31,760 Speaker 2: To into one before she was amazing. 109 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,400 Speaker 1: She yes, she puts on unbelieving And obviously the success 110 00:05:34,440 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 1: of this tour, the Eras tour, has been amazing. But 111 00:05:38,440 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 1: the big headline that just came out was that she 112 00:05:41,279 --> 00:05:45,320 Speaker 1: reportedly declined to headline the twenty twenty four Super Bowl. 113 00:05:46,680 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 1: NFL clearly came after her and said, would you please 114 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: be our halftime show, the coveted halftime spot, and she 115 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: said no for a couple of reasons. I think logistics wise, 116 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,000 Speaker 1: she is going to be doing this eras tour overseas. 117 00:06:02,040 --> 00:06:04,159 Speaker 1: I think she may be in Japan around then. Not 118 00:06:04,240 --> 00:06:06,200 Speaker 1: that there aren't jets that she owns that could fly 119 00:06:06,240 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 1: her back for that one show, but she has declined 120 00:06:09,600 --> 00:06:11,120 Speaker 1: because the other thing, and I don't know if you 121 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,919 Speaker 1: know this, you don't get paid for that halftime show. 122 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:17,039 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I did hear that. I think j Loo 123 00:06:17,240 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 2: said that. 124 00:06:17,839 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 1: It is essentially an honor, which is hysterical because you 125 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:24,920 Speaker 1: are helping them make hundreds of millions of dollars, but 126 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 1: it is an honor for you to play the halftime show. 127 00:06:27,240 --> 00:06:30,560 Speaker 1: And I think she's like, I'm good, thank you. 128 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, I got plenty of money. I don't need your advertisement. 129 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 1: Right hawking Pepsi at their halftime show. But it is 130 00:06:39,480 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: amazing she has gotten so big. There was who was it? 131 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:47,440 Speaker 1: Billy Joel said that he hasn't seen anything like this 132 00:06:47,839 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 1: since Beatlemania, the mania that's surrounding Taylor Swift, it is 133 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:54,400 Speaker 1: pretty wild. 134 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:56,400 Speaker 2: Wait, so is she bigger than Beyonce? 135 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 1: I think she's beyond eclipse to beyond say, no way, 136 00:07:01,839 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: I mean definitely in money, definitely in tours and money 137 00:07:04,320 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: she's going, Maria, She's going to have at the end 138 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:10,920 Speaker 1: of this, we'll have the biggest, highest earning, largest tour 139 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,840 Speaker 1: in the history of music, beating Elton John's Goodbye Tour. Yes, 140 00:07:16,680 --> 00:07:21,920 Speaker 1: it's yeah, not even close. This woman is absolutely a 141 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:25,680 Speaker 1: force of nature. So it's it's pretty wild. So no, 142 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,080 Speaker 1: but no, no halftime show unless Pepsi wants to really 143 00:07:29,120 --> 00:07:31,520 Speaker 1: pony up some cash to get Taylor Swift back. 144 00:07:32,600 --> 00:07:35,080 Speaker 2: Hey, maybe she'll set the new precedent where people do 145 00:07:35,160 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 2: have to get paid exactly. 146 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:42,360 Speaker 1: Someone's getting slightly nil deals in college football. Enough of 147 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:58,560 Speaker 1: the free ride. Did you watch the two documentaries on 148 00:07:58,600 --> 00:07:59,520 Speaker 1: the fire festivals? 149 00:08:00,120 --> 00:08:00,640 Speaker 2: Were great? 150 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: So great? Well you know that. So the Billy McFarlane 151 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:06,720 Speaker 1: guy who did all that, you know, he went to jail. 152 00:08:06,760 --> 00:08:10,720 Speaker 1: He was sentenced to six years and he got out 153 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,800 Speaker 1: for good behavior. I'm not sure what that is, but 154 00:08:13,920 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: he came out firing pun intended. Maria he's selling tickets 155 00:08:20,920 --> 00:08:23,280 Speaker 1: and spinning Fire Festival too. 156 00:08:24,200 --> 00:08:28,040 Speaker 2: I heard because Kevin told me this. I was like, 157 00:08:28,560 --> 00:08:33,200 Speaker 2: you know, people have no shame. They just by the way. 158 00:08:33,480 --> 00:08:37,040 Speaker 2: He's figuring it out because he's got a popularity. Now, 159 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 2: he's got a name that people recognize. 160 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,000 Speaker 1: If you don't know. So the Fire Festival was this 161 00:08:43,800 --> 00:08:48,080 Speaker 1: not the worst idea. It was just the most epic 162 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: fail of execution in the history of all ideas. Apparently 163 00:08:51,920 --> 00:08:56,520 Speaker 1: he wrote down this fifty page maybe manifesto you could 164 00:08:56,520 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: call it, of how to do it right this time. 165 00:08:59,600 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: So he's coming out ready to go with Fire Festival too. 166 00:09:03,240 --> 00:09:07,480 Speaker 1: I agree with you, buyer, Beware what performers, what manager 167 00:09:07,559 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: is going to say? Yeah, definitely, I'm going to have 168 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: imagine Dragons sign up for this one or Maroon five 169 00:09:13,600 --> 00:09:15,720 Speaker 1: real quick, that's going to happen. 170 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,240 Speaker 2: Yeah, but watch somehow this guy's going to figure it out, Chris, 171 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,720 Speaker 2: and it's going to be huge next year. 172 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:23,000 Speaker 1: He'll get them fire. 173 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,520 Speaker 2: She will be like, let's just see if he can 174 00:09:25,520 --> 00:09:29,800 Speaker 2: do it. I bet anything. You know, it's not a 175 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 2: lot of time to figure it out in jail. 176 00:09:32,120 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 1: I see another documentary in his future. I know you're 177 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:39,560 Speaker 1: big on love and you're big on relationships, and obviously 178 00:09:39,600 --> 00:09:42,800 Speaker 1: we know who Jennifer Aniston is. She came out in 179 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:46,800 Speaker 1: an article recently where she said it's still a challenge 180 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: her quote to be in a relationship because of her parents' dynamic. 181 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: Jennifer went on to say she was getting candid in 182 00:09:54,760 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 1: this that her relationships, her parents' relationship, affected the way 183 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 1: that she approaches her her own and that she's opened 184 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:04,800 Speaker 1: up about the impact of her mother and father's dynamic, 185 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:08,240 Speaker 1: and that she was kind of alone a lot and 186 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 1: she doesn't see a relationship that she can give to 187 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:15,760 Speaker 1: and that she kind of just likes her own way 188 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:18,880 Speaker 1: and wants to do things make herself happy and doesn't 189 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:21,080 Speaker 1: want to give up on that. I found it was 190 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 1: very I don't know if sad's the word, but unfortunate 191 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 1: to have this beautiful person on so many levels. And 192 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:32,959 Speaker 1: as she even said, I'm so successful at everything else, 193 00:10:33,040 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: but I'm not successful at this. 194 00:10:36,440 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 2: I really love her. She's so lovable and warm. 195 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,400 Speaker 1: It's you know, America's sweetheart. It's Jennifer Aniston. It's like 196 00:10:42,520 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 1: Julia Roberts. But you know what I find interesting is 197 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:48,280 Speaker 1: and I guess what I would tell her is if 198 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:51,880 Speaker 1: she was sitting on this couch or anybody else. A 199 00:10:51,960 --> 00:10:57,319 Speaker 1: relationship and love is not about losing yourself, at least 200 00:10:57,360 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be. You are not losing yourself as much 201 00:11:02,600 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: as you're getting a value out in your life. You know, 202 00:11:05,080 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 1: for you, it's Kevin, for me it's Lauren. I don't 203 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: feel like I've lost any of my individuality. I don't 204 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,840 Speaker 1: feel like I've lost any friends. I haven't. I think 205 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm probably more fun than I ever was because Lauren's 206 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 1: so damn fun. But I don't feel that that's a relationship. 207 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,720 Speaker 1: And what she's kind of explaining sounds more toxic to 208 00:11:22,760 --> 00:11:25,280 Speaker 1: me of if I'm in a relationship, I will lose 209 00:11:25,280 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: myself and. 210 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: I well, she's got a lot of trauma obviously that 211 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,960 Speaker 2: she's I'm sure worked through and been working on. But 212 00:11:36,040 --> 00:11:41,680 Speaker 2: maybe she needs some EMDR. And that is EMDR. Is 213 00:11:41,720 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 2: this really amazing therapy that they use on like returning 214 00:11:45,720 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 2: vets for PTSD, which she probably has with her her 215 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 2: family dynamic, and it's you know, Harvard's done so many 216 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:02,680 Speaker 2: studies on it. It's pretty amazing. You know, maybe that 217 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 2: would help her because you're right, like it is supposed 218 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 2: to be something you don't have to give yourself up for. However, 219 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:14,840 Speaker 2: we as talent soak up a lot of attention and 220 00:12:14,880 --> 00:12:18,120 Speaker 2: have a lot of needs and are used to having 221 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:22,320 Speaker 2: a lot. So maybe she needs like a good dentist. 222 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, I was before you just kind 223 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: of said that. I was saying my next bit of 224 00:12:27,440 --> 00:12:30,040 Speaker 1: advice would be find someone out of the industry. Go 225 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:34,840 Speaker 1: find just a normal, you know, edge fund manager. It 226 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: is I it is, you know. I think Charlie's their 227 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:41,599 Speaker 1: own said that one time of like, I'm single, I 228 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:43,400 Speaker 1: would love to date, but no one's going to approach me. 229 00:12:43,440 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: And it's amazing. You would think, oh my gosh, come on, 230 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:49,240 Speaker 1: Charlie's Jennifer Aniston. Yeah, but it's actually not that easy 231 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: because most people will not approach them, and if they do, 232 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:54,320 Speaker 1: they don't approach them in the right way. Genuinely. Yes, 233 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: you know. 234 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 2: Well, also, there's so many things about interacting with the 235 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:04,959 Speaker 2: celebrity that a non celebrity would never know, and there's 236 00:13:04,960 --> 00:13:07,600 Speaker 2: so many boundaries you really have to be careful not 237 00:13:07,679 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 2: to cross. And then it's just it's it's a really 238 00:13:11,200 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 2: hard thing for someone who's not in the loop. To 239 00:13:14,160 --> 00:13:17,440 Speaker 2: really understand how to engage with people properly, and so 240 00:13:17,480 --> 00:13:20,840 Speaker 2: we can't just she can go to like a small 241 00:13:20,920 --> 00:13:23,120 Speaker 2: town and do her thing for a little bit, or 242 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:27,320 Speaker 2: she can't stay there. She can't, you can't, you know, 243 00:13:27,720 --> 00:13:30,079 Speaker 2: I don't know. It's really hard to explain. 244 00:13:30,600 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: Well, Taylor Swift is a great example. Not to go 245 00:13:32,960 --> 00:13:34,640 Speaker 1: back to Taylor. I am a swifty by the way 246 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: you can tell. But she went to a wedding I 247 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 1: think it was this week or maybe last week, and 248 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: it got out in this small town that she was there. 249 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: When she walked out, everyone within twenty towns was there, 250 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:51,560 Speaker 1: mobbing the place. 251 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 2: Yeah. 252 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,960 Speaker 1: That is the kind of like moth to a flame 253 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 1: attention you get when you were in. 254 00:13:57,559 --> 00:14:03,600 Speaker 2: The wedding, right and then ps. There's also like I've 255 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 2: been in situations where I've gone to weddings and once 256 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 2: people got the booze in them, that's when they started 257 00:14:11,800 --> 00:14:15,280 Speaker 2: taking potshots. Yeah, oh you think your fancy. You know, 258 00:14:15,360 --> 00:14:20,280 Speaker 2: they're insecurities and inadequacies come out, and then they have 259 00:14:20,360 --> 00:14:22,920 Speaker 2: to hurt you because they're feeling lesser for some reason, 260 00:14:23,400 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 2: and so the pot shots would come out. And Kevin's like, 261 00:14:25,560 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 2: you can't do this. Anymore, And I was like, why 262 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 2: would people be like this? Like I have no problem obviously, 263 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:34,480 Speaker 2: and I'm not Jennifer Aniston, but like we live in 264 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:37,160 Speaker 2: a small town in Connecticut. I have no problem. I 265 00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 2: go to the local pie's place, we have great time. 266 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:45,400 Speaker 2: Like I I am okay mixing in those arenas. But 267 00:14:46,320 --> 00:14:48,720 Speaker 2: sometimes you get people who don't know how to be 268 00:14:49,200 --> 00:14:53,360 Speaker 2: and they are very inappropriate and I'm kind, and so 269 00:14:53,880 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 2: it can be tough. 270 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: I always said there was this there's this point in 271 00:14:57,120 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 1: the night where everybody goes from being super sweet and 272 00:14:59,600 --> 00:15:04,720 Speaker 1: nice to that crossing the line touchy feely or saying 273 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:08,880 Speaker 1: stuff that like the filter is off, and maybe it's 274 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: just their true feelings, but you know I and it's 275 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 1: for me. It was always guys because of the show 276 00:15:15,520 --> 00:15:17,960 Speaker 1: I hosted for twenty years. Obviously a lot of women 277 00:15:18,040 --> 00:15:20,880 Speaker 1: watched it, and naturally they would just come up and 278 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 1: kind of start talking. It was the icebreaker, and guys 279 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:27,320 Speaker 1: always took that the weird or the wrong way as 280 00:15:27,320 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 1: if they were threatened by me, which I couldn't be 281 00:15:30,280 --> 00:15:33,520 Speaker 1: less threatening as a human being, but guys would just 282 00:15:33,520 --> 00:15:36,080 Speaker 1: get a little insecure, and so they would start popping 283 00:15:36,120 --> 00:15:38,480 Speaker 1: off or whatever, And typically I would just immediately diffuse 284 00:15:38,520 --> 00:15:40,600 Speaker 1: it by buying him a drink, trying to buy everyone 285 00:15:40,640 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: a drink or whatever. But you just have to remove yourself. 286 00:15:42,880 --> 00:15:45,840 Speaker 1: And oftentimes you would be at a big event or 287 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: somewhere and you realized at ten thirty at night, you're 288 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 1: back in your hotel room while everybody is still down partying, 289 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: because you just kind of had to get away from 290 00:15:53,080 --> 00:15:56,480 Speaker 1: it all. And it's weird you're sitting there alone, going, wait, 291 00:15:56,520 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: why am I not down there? Yeah, and again times 292 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: ten or times one thousand, is Jennifer Aniston or Charlie's 293 00:16:04,480 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: or anybody else trying to live that life? So but 294 00:16:07,800 --> 00:16:12,400 Speaker 1: I agree, I would say if she can a what 295 00:16:12,480 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: you're kind of explaining as a toxic relationship, don't lose yourself, 296 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,960 Speaker 1: find someone who's a value add and maybe get out 297 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: of the industry. Yeah, this next story, I lest your mom, 298 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 1: and due to a brain cancer. In twenty twenty one, 299 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:41,760 Speaker 1: Olivia Newton John obviously passed away as well, and her 300 00:16:41,920 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: daughter Chloe revealed that she has had health issues. And 301 00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: this is something I know that you've talked about caretakers 302 00:16:52,800 --> 00:16:56,240 Speaker 1: having health issues for after the person that they were 303 00:16:56,240 --> 00:17:00,200 Speaker 1: taken care of actually passes away or is deathly ill. 304 00:17:00,680 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 1: And that's something you can relate to, and it's something 305 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 1: you talk about a lot. 306 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I totally understand that there are actual statistics about 307 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,679 Speaker 2: caregivers dying before the patients they take care of. So, 308 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 2: for example, and I have this in my phone because 309 00:17:15,359 --> 00:17:19,160 Speaker 2: it's just so alarming to me, there are forty three 310 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 2: million unpaid caregivers, mostly women. Stanford found forty percent of 311 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:29,720 Speaker 2: Alzheimer's and dementia patients die before the patient that they're 312 00:17:29,760 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 2: caregiving for. And I also know that the clinic that 313 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:38,040 Speaker 2: I would take my mom to in Mexico was founded 314 00:17:38,080 --> 00:17:40,200 Speaker 2: by a woman who got cancer taking care of her 315 00:17:40,200 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 2: mother with cancer. Caregiving is excruciatingly hard and it really 316 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:49,960 Speaker 2: does take its toll on your body. And by the way, 317 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,120 Speaker 2: I had help, and it was still a lot, So 318 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 2: I can I can totally understand that. 319 00:17:55,720 --> 00:17:58,040 Speaker 1: And that's what you know. Chloe so Olivia Newton John 320 00:17:58,080 --> 00:18:00,480 Speaker 1: obviously she died of breast cancer last off ugus and 321 00:18:01,080 --> 00:18:03,720 Speaker 1: she said, since my mom's passing and the year and 322 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:07,119 Speaker 1: a half with her going through cancer, I've not been okay. 323 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:10,520 Speaker 1: I have forgotten to return commitments and I have been 324 00:18:10,560 --> 00:18:13,520 Speaker 1: neglecting myself. One of my mom's biggest messages was to 325 00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:16,760 Speaker 1: take care of you. If you don't take care of you, 326 00:18:16,760 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: you can't give your full capacity of love, wisdom, kindness 327 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:23,960 Speaker 1: and power to everyone else. She got lost in all this, 328 00:18:24,320 --> 00:18:27,760 Speaker 1: and that is something that as people that are listening 329 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:30,840 Speaker 1: to this, obviously, it's something we can all relate to 330 00:18:30,960 --> 00:18:33,640 Speaker 1: that have lost a loved one and watch someone die 331 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:38,560 Speaker 1: of cancer or whatever the illness was. It is hard 332 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:42,840 Speaker 1: to say, take care of you, but it is amazingly 333 00:18:42,920 --> 00:18:43,960 Speaker 1: important to do so. 334 00:18:44,960 --> 00:18:48,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, but there's no roadmap for that. First well, there's 335 00:18:48,119 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 2: like no roadmap for how to handle any of this. 336 00:18:52,080 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 2: I thought I was taking care of myself, right. I 337 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:00,919 Speaker 2: had a nurse helping me with my mom, and I 338 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 2: had my husband and my dad, And there were moments 339 00:19:03,960 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 2: where I took a break, yeah, and went to the 340 00:19:07,200 --> 00:19:10,800 Speaker 2: other coast and caught my breath. I mean, I did 341 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:14,119 Speaker 2: all of the things that I thought were going above 342 00:19:14,119 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 2: and beyond what normal people would do in terms of 343 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:22,840 Speaker 2: taking care of you, and you know, whatever it was. 344 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:25,400 Speaker 2: I get a massage where I did all those things 345 00:19:25,400 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 2: and I still ended up with so much. 346 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: So do do you have any advice. What's our takeaway 347 00:19:31,600 --> 00:19:33,920 Speaker 1: to Chloe or the Chloe's of the world is we're 348 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,359 Speaker 1: all going to face this probably at some point in 349 00:19:36,400 --> 00:19:36,879 Speaker 1: our life. 350 00:19:37,640 --> 00:19:43,199 Speaker 2: Yeah. I really think first of all, we have to 351 00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: fix the caregiving situation in our country because nursing homes 352 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:52,359 Speaker 2: are really really rough for people. Caregiving at home is 353 00:19:52,440 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: excruciatingly expensive. Even people who have a lot of resources 354 00:19:58,680 --> 00:20:02,120 Speaker 2: can't afford it. That's how hard it is. And so 355 00:20:02,720 --> 00:20:04,960 Speaker 2: we have to figure out how to get care giving 356 00:20:04,960 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 2: covered by insurance. It just has to happen. It used 357 00:20:07,800 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 2: to happen. Used to pay for an extra insurance so 358 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 2: when you got older, you got sick, you would be 359 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 2: able to have care at home. Now in New York, 360 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,840 Speaker 2: I remember seeing the commercials where they will advertise if 361 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:22,400 Speaker 2: you want to stay home and take care of your 362 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:24,560 Speaker 2: family member, they'll pay you to stay home and take 363 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:28,600 Speaker 2: care of your parent or something. Because there's forty three 364 00:20:28,640 --> 00:20:33,960 Speaker 2: million unpaid caregivers. That means now you're already going broke 365 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,560 Speaker 2: because of whatever the illness is, and your health insurance 366 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 2: is only covering so much. But now you also have 367 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:40,359 Speaker 2: to quit your job to take care of your family member. 368 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: So we have to fix that. But it's awareness, it's 369 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:49,960 Speaker 2: really understanding how sick you can get by taking care 370 00:20:50,000 --> 00:20:51,439 Speaker 2: of someone. It doesn't mean we're not going to do 371 00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:53,239 Speaker 2: the job. We're going to do the job. We're going 372 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,000 Speaker 2: to take care of our moms and our dads and 373 00:20:55,040 --> 00:20:59,960 Speaker 2: our family members. But just being really aware and cognizant 374 00:21:00,119 --> 00:21:04,320 Speaker 2: of taking care of yourself nutritionally and emotionally, making sure 375 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: you're talking to somebody getting those feelings out. You know, 376 00:21:07,560 --> 00:21:12,600 Speaker 2: we talk about like the fascia in your body really 377 00:21:12,640 --> 00:21:14,919 Speaker 2: stores a lot of emotions, so it's like doing some 378 00:21:15,080 --> 00:21:17,919 Speaker 2: like fascia work and all kinds of things. There's so 379 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,879 Speaker 2: much stuff you can be doing, so you have to 380 00:21:19,960 --> 00:21:20,919 Speaker 2: really be aware. 381 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:23,800 Speaker 1: So maybe the takeaway be mindful of yourself. But also 382 00:21:23,920 --> 00:21:26,480 Speaker 1: if you know someone who's going through this, a friend, 383 00:21:26,560 --> 00:21:29,480 Speaker 1: a loved one, be mindful of them and what they're 384 00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:32,639 Speaker 1: going through and try and take extra care of I 385 00:21:32,680 --> 00:21:35,440 Speaker 1: know we all think, oh, I'm sorry, Maria about your mom, 386 00:21:35,520 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: but think deeper about their health and things maybe you 387 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: can do to take care of them, and whether it's 388 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: bringing them a very healthy meal or getting them away 389 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 1: to get them whatever it is, maybe just think about 390 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: their health. 391 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: Yeah, the worst thing I saw is when people like, 392 00:21:50,440 --> 00:21:52,480 Speaker 2: let me know if you need anything, and like, I'm 393 00:21:52,520 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 2: never going to ask you. 394 00:21:54,119 --> 00:21:54,479 Speaker 1: Yeah. 395 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,560 Speaker 2: So it was the people who just showed up at 396 00:21:56,560 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 2: the doorstep with food. It was the people who said, 397 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,399 Speaker 2: you know, well, a lot of people didn't do this, 398 00:22:01,520 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 2: but it would be my dream for other people, at 399 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:09,480 Speaker 2: least when something's happening, go see them, ask them what 400 00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:11,320 Speaker 2: they need in person. They're going to know that you're 401 00:22:11,320 --> 00:22:16,120 Speaker 2: being genuine because you actually showed up in person. Take 402 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 2: their kids out for them, give them a break, send 403 00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 2: them to a massage, send them away to a day spa. 404 00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,080 Speaker 2: Do whatever you can. 405 00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:26,160 Speaker 1: Be proactive and do it. Yes, don't wait for someone 406 00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:27,400 Speaker 1: to ask. Nobody's going to ask. 407 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,680 Speaker 2: No one's ever going to ask. 408 00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's great advice. All right. I want to end 409 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 1: on a little lighter note. Well, I think literally and 410 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,520 Speaker 1: figuratively this is a lighter note. And I'm not sure 411 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,400 Speaker 1: it's okay. Jna del Rey is getting slammed for wearing 412 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:51,000 Speaker 1: a white dress to a wedding. Oh so, and I 413 00:22:51,040 --> 00:22:52,359 Speaker 1: also think she was wearing she. 414 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:55,639 Speaker 2: Couldn't have did that. Once I wore like a it 415 00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 2: was like a smidge off white to Kim Kardakin's wedding. 416 00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,399 Speaker 2: I looked back and I was like, oh, did you 417 00:23:02,440 --> 00:23:03,960 Speaker 2: did you actually pay attention Maria? 418 00:23:04,800 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: You did you catch any crap for it? 419 00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 2: Oh? 420 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,360 Speaker 1: No, no, you know what? 421 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,240 Speaker 2: Oh I think we were supposed to. 422 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:15,080 Speaker 1: Oh it was like a like a white Okay. So 423 00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: that's this thing, because I just recently looked back at 424 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:17,200 Speaker 1: the pace. 425 00:23:17,240 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 2: She's like, Mario, what were you thinking everybody was wearing white? 426 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 2: I think it was black and white. 427 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:24,160 Speaker 1: Okay. So I will say there are themed weddings where 428 00:23:24,200 --> 00:23:26,200 Speaker 1: it's like, hey, everybody were on a beach where white 429 00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,280 Speaker 1: or like you said, maybe Kim Kardashian's wedding, which I 430 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:33,520 Speaker 1: was not invited to, But great wedding, drop, you know, 431 00:23:33,560 --> 00:23:35,119 Speaker 1: wear black and white. Okay. So but if it's just 432 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,679 Speaker 1: a typical wedding, like I don't know if yours was typical. 433 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 1: You got married in Times Square by Steve Harvey, right, yeah, 434 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:42,159 Speaker 1: I mean that's not typical. 435 00:23:42,520 --> 00:23:45,240 Speaker 2: Married in Greece in my dad's village. So we did 436 00:23:45,240 --> 00:23:46,280 Speaker 2: two weddings that year. 437 00:23:46,600 --> 00:23:49,520 Speaker 1: So what was the wedding like in Times Square with 438 00:23:49,560 --> 00:23:51,120 Speaker 1: Steve Harvey officiating? 439 00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 2: Amazing the best? 440 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:54,160 Speaker 1: I love Steve Harvey. By the way. 441 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:58,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, he's awesome, and uh, we surprised my parents. It 442 00:23:58,359 --> 00:24:00,199 Speaker 2: was soon after my mom had been diagnosed of the 443 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:03,760 Speaker 2: brain tumor, so it was like their dream. And so 444 00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 2: we did it and everyone was invited. But I didn't 445 00:24:06,320 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 2: have to do with anybody, and. 446 00:24:07,920 --> 00:24:10,159 Speaker 1: You didn't have to clean up the Times Square afterwards. 447 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:15,960 Speaker 1: I would just say rule of thumb, don't don't wear 448 00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:19,359 Speaker 1: white to somebody's wedding unless you've been asked to or 449 00:24:19,400 --> 00:24:21,320 Speaker 1: maybe it's been pre approved. But if you have to 450 00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:22,760 Speaker 1: even go to the bride and say, hey, do you 451 00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:25,280 Speaker 1: mind if I wear this white dress, You're already being 452 00:24:25,280 --> 00:24:26,840 Speaker 1: a pain in the butt. Don't be a pain in 453 00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:28,760 Speaker 1: the butt to the bride. 454 00:24:28,920 --> 00:24:31,040 Speaker 2: Get another color, a long white dress. 455 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: No, I look, I don't think it was a flowy dress. 456 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: I want to see because honestly, she's a star. She 457 00:24:36,520 --> 00:24:38,320 Speaker 2: should be able to show up in anything she wants. 458 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:39,520 Speaker 2: They're lucky she showed up. 459 00:24:39,640 --> 00:24:43,960 Speaker 1: This was Margaret Qually's a wedding to Jack Antonov over 460 00:24:44,000 --> 00:24:50,159 Speaker 1: the weekend in New Jersey, and apparently a lacy pink 461 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,719 Speaker 1: and white mini dress. So mini dress, so spink and white. 462 00:24:53,880 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 1: So that's the thing is think of Lona del Ray 463 00:24:55,800 --> 00:24:58,840 Speaker 1: as the gateway drug to get us to the conversation 464 00:24:58,960 --> 00:25:01,399 Speaker 1: of the white dress, because I also think she had 465 00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:05,439 Speaker 1: questionable footwear on, like a croc type sandal, which some 466 00:25:05,480 --> 00:25:08,960 Speaker 1: people are defending because they're saying, well, she was going 467 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:10,720 Speaker 1: to be dancing on the dance floor, why not wear 468 00:25:10,760 --> 00:25:11,640 Speaker 1: comfortable shoes. 469 00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:14,200 Speaker 2: I wore boots in her my wedding dresses. 470 00:25:15,440 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 1: I would say this though, as someone who's about to 471 00:25:17,760 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: get married, and Lauren will be wearing a white wedding dress. 472 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 2: But you guys haven't gotten married yet. No, Oh my god, 473 00:25:27,240 --> 00:25:27,840 Speaker 2: I didn't know that. 474 00:25:27,920 --> 00:25:30,160 Speaker 1: I know we're not as long as you and Kevin went, 475 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: but we're getting there. Okay, how long because you and 476 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,240 Speaker 1: Kevin were together for how long before? 477 00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:39,600 Speaker 2: I mean it was like twenty years I think when 478 00:25:39,600 --> 00:25:40,400 Speaker 2: we got married. 479 00:25:40,920 --> 00:25:44,040 Speaker 1: That's impressive. No, it's only five. We just celebrated our 480 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:47,520 Speaker 1: fifth anniversary. So that's nothing. That's nothing. 481 00:25:47,640 --> 00:25:50,359 Speaker 2: That's nothing. Yeah, we waited a long time. 482 00:25:52,080 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 1: And so she's going to wear white, and Lauren has 483 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,879 Speaker 1: kind of curated what she wants people to wear anyway, 484 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:01,679 Speaker 1: because that's Lauren the producer. But if someone showed up 485 00:26:01,720 --> 00:26:04,520 Speaker 1: in a white flowy dress, I just think that would 486 00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:05,480 Speaker 1: be a fashion. 487 00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:09,160 Speaker 2: But I'm looking at what Lana's wearing here. It's white 488 00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:13,159 Speaker 2: and pink, it's a little summer dress, and she's wearing 489 00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,720 Speaker 2: comfy footwear. Good for her. I don't disagree with the 490 00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:19,520 Speaker 2: comfy footwear. 491 00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:21,879 Speaker 1: So we're going to say on the Maria Minuno scale, 492 00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,879 Speaker 1: not offensive. I'm not offended now, not offendive, but she 493 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:25,960 Speaker 1: could do better with the footwear. 494 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:27,280 Speaker 2: I like them. They're comfy. 495 00:26:27,320 --> 00:26:28,200 Speaker 1: Oh you do like them. 496 00:26:29,040 --> 00:26:30,920 Speaker 2: If you see what I wore under mind, I wore 497 00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:34,320 Speaker 2: literal boots. We went to pay Less, I bought the 498 00:26:34,359 --> 00:26:37,520 Speaker 2: wardrobe girl bought twenty dollars cowboy boots, little ankle ones 499 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 2: under my dress in Times Square because my friend wanted 500 00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,359 Speaker 2: me to wear sandals. I go, are you high? So 501 00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,560 Speaker 2: cold and below? I'm not doing fashion for you. I'm 502 00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 2: going to be warm. 503 00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,640 Speaker 1: It's going to be frizy in Greece. 504 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 2: I just knew it was going to be on my 505 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:54,800 Speaker 2: feet all the time. So we put boots, you know, 506 00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:57,520 Speaker 2: comfy like ug like boots under my wedding dress. No 507 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:01,480 Speaker 2: one ever knew, and I'm very grateful I did it, and. 508 00:27:01,440 --> 00:27:04,119 Speaker 1: I love that you guys went twenty years before you 509 00:27:04,160 --> 00:27:04,639 Speaker 1: got married. 510 00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:08,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, here, we needed to make sure I was the one. 511 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:11,359 Speaker 1: I think vice versa. That's how that goes. 512 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,520 Speaker 2: It went so long and then eventually like crisis had 513 00:27:15,520 --> 00:27:17,000 Speaker 2: to happen for us to be like, you know what, 514 00:27:17,119 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 2: let's do this. 515 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:21,080 Speaker 1: Marie Minus. I appreciate it. I thank you for filling 516 00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,200 Speaker 1: in for Lauren Zima and Hope. 517 00:27:23,240 --> 00:27:24,640 Speaker 2: I was able to bring some light. 518 00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,840 Speaker 1: You brought a lot of light. I got all the 519 00:27:26,880 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: melatonin I need out of this, and my circadian rhythm 520 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:34,960 Speaker 1: is beaten to the drum. But more importantly, I want 521 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,919 Speaker 1: to continue this discussion. Let's get together. I would like 522 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:41,479 Speaker 1: to have another discussion because I want to get into 523 00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,720 Speaker 1: your podcast, Heel squad, what that does, how that started, 524 00:27:45,760 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 1: the meaning behind it, obviously all of your health stuff, 525 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:52,600 Speaker 1: your mom and where you are now on this journey, 526 00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: because that is an incredible story. So for those of 527 00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 1: you that know Maria and you want to hear that, 528 00:27:58,680 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: we are going to add that podcast as well. If 529 00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:04,320 Speaker 1: you don't know Maria, you need to hear this story 530 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,280 Speaker 1: because she just has such great perspectives, such great light 531 00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 1: and knowledge on all of this as she has lived it. 532 00:28:11,600 --> 00:28:14,280 Speaker 1: As you say, walk a mile in somebody's shoes. She's 533 00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 1: walked six miles, so I look forward to that conversation 534 00:28:18,200 --> 00:28:23,119 Speaker 1: coming up very soon with you. Thank you fun, and 535 00:28:23,160 --> 00:28:27,199 Speaker 1: in the meantime, thank you for listening. Always appreciate it. 536 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,320 Speaker 1: As I said, LZ will be back next week. In 537 00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 1: the meantime, my thanks to Maria Minunos of her podcast 538 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 1: Heal Squad. Give that a listen. In the meantime, I 539 00:28:35,400 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: will talk to you very soon because we have a 540 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: lot more to talk about. Thanks for listening. Follow us 541 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: on Instagram at the most dramatic pod ever and make 542 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,200 Speaker 1: sure to write us a review and leave us five stars. 543 00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:47,720 Speaker 1: I'll talk to you next time.