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Speaker 1: defender break through the line of scrimmage and there they

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Speaker 1: look like they're gonna get Martin in the backfield, and

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Speaker 1: he makes the miss and he gets away from it.

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Speaker 1: I don't know if Freeman is quite that guy. He's

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Speaker 1: more just running straight at Yeah. I like Sims too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Freeman is definitely running through much bigger holes than Doug Martin.

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Speaker 1: We all took the Falcons in that game. Moving on

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Speaker 1: to the next one pm Eastern kick off, the San

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Speaker 1: Diego Chargers travel to Baltimore to face the Ravens. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens one and six can't get it going this season.

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Speaker 1: The the Chargers, you know, the middle of the road.

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Speaker 1: We forked them. These are two fork teams, by the way,

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Speaker 1: welcome to in five. Is the middle of the road

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Speaker 1: right now? Mark, you should taking out back since London.

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Speaker 1: You were okay with us forking the Chargers. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: mean we talked about it. I always want to be bold.

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Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get We're gonna get nailed on

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Speaker 1: on some of these forks that we've done at some point.

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Speaker 1: But that's the fun of its sure for them. Okay,

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Speaker 1: So you're comfortable with that? Why not? Uh? Greg? What

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Speaker 1: your thoughts about this game is? Is there anything for

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Speaker 1: the layman to get excited about this matchup? Because I

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Speaker 1: don't know Philip Rivers. I'm excited to watch him every

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Speaker 1: week in general, you're what you're not? Just like, he's

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Speaker 1: amazingly efficient and he's he should go to the Hall

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Speaker 1: of Fame if he keeps this up for another couple

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Speaker 1: But I don't like go nuts. When I watched Philip

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Speaker 1: rovers play with with a bunch of like four yard passes,

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Speaker 1: well that doesn't excite me. But he's got some of

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Speaker 1: the little rainbow touches. He's got the ones where he's

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Speaker 1: getting away from defenders. This is a good matchup from him.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't had many good matchups. It feels like lately,

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Speaker 1: Keenan Allen. That's worth the price of admission a bunch

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Speaker 1: of eight yard reception smith, is it? I mean you

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Speaker 1: have to pay like a hundred and sixty dollars for

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Speaker 1: a ticket. I'd be happy to just watch it in

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Speaker 1: a sports bar. That's a figure of speech. I would

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Speaker 1: never pay that money. And you know the charges. They

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Speaker 1: could not have looked worse when that game matter. That's

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Speaker 1: why we forked them. Uh, not just the loss, but

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Speaker 1: how bad they looked. I keep on I feel like

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Speaker 1: I haven't looked back at the picks this season, but

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Speaker 1: I probably picked the Ravens to win more weeks than

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Speaker 1: I have not because I keep on waiting for them

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Speaker 1: to not fall on their face and get this season

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Speaker 1: on track and be respectable. But maybe they are going

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Speaker 1: to go four and twelve. I don't know. I I

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Speaker 1: thought this team is better than that, but you keep

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Speaker 1: losing at certain point that you're just a loser team.

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Speaker 1: This is a good week to get healthy if you're

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Speaker 1: the Ravens. Eric Weddle is not supposed to play, and

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Speaker 1: Jimmy Wilson last week one of the worst games you'll

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Speaker 1: ever see from his safety. All three Raiders touchdowns from

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Speaker 1: Derek Carr. Two receivers came picking on Jimmy Wilson and

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Speaker 1: you saw Marii Cooper put him on skates on that

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Speaker 1: one play, Clive Walt Walford beat him down the sideline,

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Speaker 1: Crab Tree made him miss on the way to the

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Speaker 1: end zone, and then Marii Cooper out jumped him on

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Speaker 1: a on another bomb that wasn't a touchdown. So Jimmy

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Speaker 1: Wilson was a huge liability list week. You can only

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Speaker 1: imagine what Steve Smith's gonna do to him. I've alluded

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Speaker 1: to Mike mccoybeing in trouble in San Diego. You know

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Speaker 1: Tom Dalasco, the general manager, has had an absolutely brutal year.

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Speaker 1: You know his big signing and you couldn't blame before

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Speaker 1: Brandon Flowers struggling, but at a time when no one

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Speaker 1: invests in inside linebackers. You know, that's just kind of

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Speaker 1: that will figure out who, you know, we can get

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Speaker 1: a guy in the fourth or fifth round. They gave

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Speaker 1: Donald Butler huge money and he's been terrible. They draft

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Speaker 1: Man Titeo in the second round. He has not been good.

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Speaker 1: Uh pairman who looked like he might be good. The

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Speaker 1: best one of the three is now injured, and so

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Speaker 1: they don't have him, and so they've put a lot

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Speaker 1: of resources into that position and it's still one of

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Speaker 1: the worst positions on the team in a terrible defense.

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Speaker 1: Seems like a long time since we've been excited about

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Speaker 1: San Diego's defense. They don't have difference makers, that's fair.

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Speaker 1: They don't really have a pass rusher at uh. I

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Speaker 1: thought Ingram would have a good year. He's been okay,

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Speaker 1: but they haven't had a pass rusher really and three

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Speaker 1: or four years. It's crazy. You want to make flowers.

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Speaker 1: Today we took it. We took the Ravens across the board.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, I'm not sure why, well we

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Speaker 1: repeat this every time. Not what I do has no

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Speaker 1: relation to what you just because all five of leus

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Speaker 1: do it. It It could be a coin flip game and

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Speaker 1: we just go to that. Yeah, not hear, but well,

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Speaker 1: the San Diego helping teams get healthy. The Ravens secondary

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Speaker 1: outside of that weird Thursday night game with the Steelers,

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Speaker 1: have been an absolute disaster week after week. I might

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Speaker 1: I have until Sunday. You want you wanted me to

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Speaker 1: jump in with your you know, help out with your picks.

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Speaker 1: I think San Diego, by the way, well, by the way,

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Speaker 1: what's happened last week? Yeah, I was about to say

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Speaker 1: Mark deserves some credit. He's taking some shots. Were being

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Speaker 1: terrible at the picks this year. Who from you? Oh?

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Speaker 1: Just well, no, I haven't said, by the way, from me,

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Speaker 1: I have been. Greg only talks about picks on his

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Speaker 1: new podcast, What News the Residental just Y Greg will

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Speaker 1: mo through this? Uh this achievement that I had last week?

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Speaker 1: Somehow he not only did mo through, and he got

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Speaker 1: a plug for his rival podcast. It's not a rival podcast,

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Speaker 1: Dan twelve and two. You went, I planned to catch

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Speaker 1: in you. I'm one game behind Connor, He's next to

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Speaker 1: go down, and then I'm coming right up on the

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Speaker 1: Oldso sir, just say what it is. It's a rival podcast?

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Speaker 1: Why would it be a rival podcast that I'd be

533
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Speaker 1: like Jason Brhett saying Brandon Flowers is a rival cornerback.

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Speaker 1: Is the man on my right? Is the man on

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Speaker 1: my right my ally or my enemy? Because now I

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Speaker 1: don't know, I think he's your ally. You look at

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Speaker 1: things strangely. Let's move on the Minnesota Vikings in Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is what you like of nice NFC

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Speaker 1: North showdown, But it's not the Bears year, the Vikings

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Speaker 1: or a team that we're still trying to figure out

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Speaker 1: a little bit, right. I mean, are the Vikings the

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Speaker 1: type of team that you can get behind, that could

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Speaker 1: beat good teams at any time, or they, you know,

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Speaker 1: more closer to the middle of the pack. Mark Mark Seso,

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Speaker 1: you tell me what you think about the Minnesota Bikes.

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Speaker 1: A disgusting game, by the way, Why well, when we've

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Speaker 1: bill this is oh yeah, we like this as an

548
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Speaker 1: old NFC North. This is one of the worst games

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Speaker 1: of the week in my book, because I'll tell you why.

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Speaker 1: To me, the Bears, I understand they're going to go

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Speaker 1: about seven and nine, and they are a better team

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Speaker 1: with Cutler. Strangely, they just do not matter at all

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Speaker 1: this season. I always pictured the Vikings is like, Wow,

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Speaker 1: let's unpack that a little bit. You just completely buried

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00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 1: that organization when I you know, tell me if I'm wrong.

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Speaker 1: Going through watching all the games on game Pass the Bears,

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Speaker 1: I fell asleep twice two weeks in a row watching

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Speaker 1: Bears game. Mike is really close to your mouth too.

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00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: I know it keeps curving towards my mouth. That's very annoying.

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Speaker 1: Who are these Chicago Bears you speak of? They're mythical.

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Speaker 1: I don't. I don't watched him. They had a great

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Speaker 1: ending against the Chiefs. They made the Chiefs to watch. Yeah,

563
00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,240
Speaker 1: but the first like forty eight minutes of that game

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Speaker 1: was again, I fell asleep in a chair in my

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Speaker 1: living room. Like the last month of my life has

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Speaker 1: been polluted by a bunch of people trying to defend

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Speaker 1: j Cutler. I don't know why. I do agree that

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Speaker 1: the NFC North has proven, you know, outside of the Packers,

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Speaker 1: of course, tiresome and Teddy Bridgewater is the perfect symbol

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Speaker 1: for why. Like, he doesn't do enough to make up

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Speaker 1: for his interceptions that he's been throwing this year. There's

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Speaker 1: not enough flash to his game. I think it will

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Speaker 1: change around, but He's kind of the symbol for me

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Speaker 1: for this Vikings team that they're getting it done. But

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Speaker 1: it doesn't mean it's a lot of fun to watch.

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Speaker 1: You were on NFL Network today talking your QB index

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Speaker 1: and I liked what he said. Derek Carr is who

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Speaker 1: he thought Teddy Bridgewater would be right, very steady week

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Speaker 1: to week. Thank you for Bortles has outplayed him too,

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Speaker 1: That's true. Www dot NFL dot com slash QB Rankings

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Speaker 1: QB ranks. It's it's an odd vanity or l because

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Speaker 1: there's QB index is just such a natural Why would

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Speaker 1: we not just go with the title of the article

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Speaker 1: I hold in my hand? The week eight research notes that,

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Speaker 1: of course is the great Tom Cochrane Life is a Highway.

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Speaker 1: What a song that I'm referring to, You know, Lang

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Speaker 1: Chung we have been using, but you gotta keep things well.

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Speaker 1: It's in the same wheelhouse. So I like what you do.

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Speaker 1: You gotta keep things fresh with thirty year old songs.

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00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,200
Speaker 1: We were not to get off track, but yesterday in

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Speaker 1: the news really played the full full song at high volume.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure a lot of people around us were pleased

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Speaker 1: about that. And uh, you know, like could they have

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Speaker 1: anything to talk about exactly through through it out there?

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Speaker 1: You know, Tom, Tommy boy Cochrane was right, life is

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Speaker 1: kind of like a highway, to which West said, I

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Speaker 1: don't believe anything the Cockran has to say, that scoundrel

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Speaker 1: something like that. What happened? Put my headphones in and

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Speaker 1: listen to a good soul like Lay Lady Lay by

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Speaker 1: Bob Dylan. You know that's cheating, you know, if we're

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Speaker 1: if we're talking about like a fun kind of cheesy song,

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Speaker 1: you can't bury it. Then be like well, I put

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Speaker 1: on my old cans and I listened to Dylan because

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Speaker 1: I don't like life is a highway? Doesn't who does? Like?

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Speaker 1: No one likes life. I admitted that I liked it

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Speaker 1: more than I realized I did. That there's a little

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Speaker 1: tiny part towards the end where it slows down and

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Speaker 1: he's reflective and I like what he had to say,

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Speaker 1: and then it becomes bombastic and go Mr boom. But

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Speaker 1: but like West, you don't agree that life is a highway. No,

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Speaker 1: I think it's a horrible metaphor. I don't even think

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Speaker 1: Tom cochran believes life is a highway. Just sounded good

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Speaker 1: nonsense made millions off it. He's doing fine anyway. From

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Speaker 1: the week eight research notes, Adrian Peterson has been a

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Speaker 1: boom or bust runner this season. I found this to

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Speaker 1: be very west You can again, you should start grading

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Speaker 1: my my notes that I pull out of this, by

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Speaker 1: the way, because you have been giving a feeling. I know,

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Speaker 1: I've been giving you a lot of leeway this y. Yeah, okay.

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Speaker 1: Six rushes of twenty plus yards this season. That's tied

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Speaker 1: for the third most in the NFL. Twenty two rushes

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Speaker 1: for negative yards this season. No running back in the

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Speaker 1: NFL has more than that. Not surprising at all when

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Speaker 1: you watch them play because the offensive line can't run

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Speaker 1: black at all and Peterson is getting blown up on

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Speaker 1: the backfield and and half of his care I'll ask

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Speaker 1: the question again, is two thousand twelve Adrian Peterson have

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Speaker 1: similar numbers to that? Or is he not quite as

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Speaker 1: good so he can't shake a bad offensive line play

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Speaker 1: the way he used to, but still is great enough

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Speaker 1: to have breakaway runs like he's having. He looks like

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Speaker 1: the same guy to me. Maybe I don't know. Two

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Speaker 1: thousand twelve, Adrian Peterson looks different than any running back

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Speaker 1: I've ever seen. Maybe he's like of that. I don't know, right,

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Speaker 1: that's a tough comparison, but I would say to two

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Speaker 1: thousand thirteen Adrian Peterson, which was very good and I

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Speaker 1: think was better than his numbers. He seems like he's

638
00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: about there. They need they need their receivers to win

639
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 1: one on one match. But I mean, yeah, if you

640
00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:02,480
Speaker 1: want to two reasons to watch this game. One Stefon Diggs,

641
00:32:02,480 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 1: who's really fun to watch, and Harrison Smith, who's playing

642
00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:07,800
Speaker 1: as well as any safety in the NFL. They had

643
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: him blitzing like a madman last week. It's so funny

644
00:32:10,600 --> 00:32:13,240
Speaker 1: that you plan your whole offseason and it's endless posts

645
00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:18,400
Speaker 1: that we write about the wide receivers, Mike Wallace, Charles Johnson,

646
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,800
Speaker 1: and then bang, it's Digs out of Nowhere that looks

647
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: by far the most interesting of the group. He looks

648
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,200
Speaker 1: like a route run from a route routing perspective, looks

649
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 1: like a six year veteran Mark. You have a um

650
00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:30,760
Speaker 1: what used to be a hero pick on this. You're

651
00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:34,000
Speaker 1: the only one to take the bears. Tell us why? Well,

652
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 1: I mean, based on what I said earlier, I have

653
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:38,720
Speaker 1: no idea why I did that, but because because no,

654
00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:42,280
Speaker 1: I don't believe in the I don't believe in the

655
00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:44,840
Speaker 1: Vikings that much. And I think the Bears I said

656
00:32:44,880 --> 00:32:46,520
Speaker 1: what I did, say that they're gonna go eight and

657
00:32:46,600 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 1: eate and be completely unimpressive seven and nine, eight and eight,

658
00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 1: and so they're gonna sneak a game like this. Here's

659
00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 1: one of the most surprising things you'll see on Football

660
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:58,440
Speaker 1: Outsider's website. Their d v o A efficiency ratings. They

661
00:32:58,480 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 1: had the Vikings is best team in the NFL and

662
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:04,160
Speaker 1: the Bear's thirty. So this is an even matchup according

663
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:07,239
Speaker 1: to Phoneball Outsiders. That's shocking. Did did I mention you,

664
00:33:07,240 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: guys what I'm trying to bring back? No, the winning?

665
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 1: You mentioned that a few times. They just it was

666
00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 1: officially not brought back. That failed experience been a year

667
00:33:21,520 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 1: because I didn't But I didn't really make the push.

668
00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 1: I didn't give it the push a deserve. And now

669
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,520
Speaker 1: I think effective, Uh, this show, I'm gonna really give

670
00:33:29,560 --> 00:33:31,520
Speaker 1: it another shot. This is like the third time you've

671
00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,840
Speaker 1: done effective this show. I'm gonna give the winning and

672
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,600
Speaker 1: a real shot. All Right, we could be the show

673
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,600
Speaker 1: that makes that tagline big bring it back? How about

674
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 1: this one? Bud Wiser. Yeah, this is a this is

675
00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:47,239
Speaker 1: stage of it. We've had this guy. You need some

676
00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 1: new bits. I'm running out. We've been doing the show

677
00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: too long, wib alright, alright, moving on the Arizona Cardinals

678
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:02,400
Speaker 1: five and two, the team around the NFL. They travel

679
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:07,160
Speaker 1: to Cleveland to face the Browns, and you know, the

680
00:34:07,200 --> 00:34:11,600
Speaker 1: Browns another season that is slipping away at two and five.

681
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,440
Speaker 1: They need to do something market. They gotta prove that

682
00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,920
Speaker 1: they're not gonna be pushed around there. The football world

683
00:34:17,000 --> 00:34:20,120
Speaker 1: is picking against them, and let's let's let's be honest.

684
00:34:20,160 --> 00:34:23,520
Speaker 1: They've well last week, you know, notwithstanding they've been in

685
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,200
Speaker 1: most of the games this season. Do you think they

686
00:34:26,239 --> 00:34:28,479
Speaker 1: could put up a good battle against the Cardinals team

687
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,960
Speaker 1: that we believe collectively is as well rounded as any

688
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: unit in the league. Well, I mean, most teams don't

689
00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: seem to match up well with the Cardinals at all.

690
00:34:36,680 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: And that's especially true of Cleveland because Arizona can beat

691
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:44,239
Speaker 1: you in so many different ways with their offense, and

692
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland's run defense won't even force Carson Palmer to have

693
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: to do much for the air if they performed the

694
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: way they did last week, and basically every week this

695
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 1: season outside of when they played the Chargers. I mean,

696
00:34:56,000 --> 00:34:58,680
Speaker 1: this is what they were built to be. Was you know,

697
00:34:58,719 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 1: we draft Danny Shelton, We're bringing all these guys. We're

698
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 1: gonna start to become an a f C North team

699
00:35:04,320 --> 00:35:07,480
Speaker 1: like the Ravens, and we're going to shut down the run.

700
00:35:07,760 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 1: Cleveland cannot control the game on defense at all. They

701
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,000
Speaker 1: haven't done it once once this entire season, outside of

702
00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:17,480
Speaker 1: the Titans game. I found a purpose and sense of

703
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:20,920
Speaker 1: meaning for the brown season. Get Gary Barnett to the

704
00:35:20,920 --> 00:35:23,959
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Softest hands in the league among tight ends.

705
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:28,080
Speaker 1: Well that is a bitter if that's yes, that could happen.

706
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,120
Speaker 1: But for Browns fans in general, I mean, it's sort

707
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:32,239
Speaker 1: of lost at this point. Where did this guy come from?

708
00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:33,919
Speaker 1: By that? But what I mean's been around for a while.

709
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:37,960
Speaker 1: Ky brought him from Carolina, But where did all of

710
00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,720
Speaker 1: a sudden He's uh, He's always played behind better talents

711
00:35:40,760 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: like Jordan Cameron and then Carolina behind was Greg Olsen

712
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: there still, I think, But Barne's got plenty of is

713
00:35:46,200 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: this his first year, it's it's the first time, it's

714
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,279
Speaker 1: his third, it's third time that he's used as a

715
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,480
Speaker 1: pass catcher, okay, because I was gonna say the guy

716
00:35:53,520 --> 00:35:56,000
Speaker 1: playing ahead of him was hurt all the time and

717
00:35:56,000 --> 00:35:58,239
Speaker 1: they never found out what they know, it's right they

718
00:35:58,280 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 1: would use him as a blocker, not a pass catch.

719
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:02,520
Speaker 1: Mean he his catch rating was always one of the

720
00:36:02,600 --> 00:36:04,560
Speaker 1: highest in the league, but they was that's off of

721
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,439
Speaker 1: very little target. He pulls off an insane catch every week,

722
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 1: and you need to when you got Josh McCown, throw

723
00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,879
Speaker 1: on those high balls to you. And especially if he's

724
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,520
Speaker 1: played a shoulder injury. We don't know, you know, this

725
00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: could be the return of Johnny Manzel. Are you are?

726
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: Your loyalty is gonna be divided on Sunday mark team

727
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 1: of a t L versus your team? No. I respect

728
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:27,640
Speaker 1: the Cardinals. I think they're fun to watch. I'm not

729
00:36:27,680 --> 00:36:30,120
Speaker 1: sure it's in you know, if you're if you're the Browns,

730
00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:31,920
Speaker 1: it's in your best interest to make a statement home.

731
00:36:31,920 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: If you're a Browns fan, do you really want to

732
00:36:34,000 --> 00:36:37,239
Speaker 1: finish the season six and ten and outside of that

733
00:36:37,680 --> 00:36:39,520
Speaker 1: place where you can go find a quarterback but you

734
00:36:39,560 --> 00:36:41,440
Speaker 1: can't really root against them. It's just not going to

735
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: be in your DNA. It makes you no, I would

736
00:36:44,600 --> 00:36:47,359
Speaker 1: I would run for Cleveland to to listen that there

737
00:36:47,640 --> 00:36:49,160
Speaker 1: you talked to us being a statement game that was

738
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:51,840
Speaker 1: the Broncos game. Doesn't matter how well Josh McCown plays,

739
00:36:51,840 --> 00:36:55,000
Speaker 1: It doesn't matter how well Kirk Cousin plays. Rosenthal is

740
00:36:55,000 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 1: gonna rank Peyton Manning ahead of them no matter? What's that?

741
00:36:59,040 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 1: That is true? Signed, I thought I had Cousins the

742
00:37:05,160 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: head of Manning initially. Account has not been the problem.

743
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,880
Speaker 1: Their offense has scored twenty four points or more in

744
00:37:11,000 --> 00:37:13,960
Speaker 1: every game except one. It is their defense. The thing

745
00:37:14,040 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: they said that they called themselves a top three secondary

746
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:20,160
Speaker 1: all offseason, well, absolutely not. It goes with my thought

747
00:37:20,160 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: that most head coaches don't matter. We we make we

748
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:24,840
Speaker 1: make such a big deal out of head coaches, and

749
00:37:24,880 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 1: there's very few that have schemes that really make a difference.

750
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,200
Speaker 1: Like you know, I don't think Mike Patten's gonna show

751
00:37:30,280 --> 00:37:33,439
Speaker 1: up and just make Okay defense that much better. Most

752
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:35,719
Speaker 1: of them don't matter that much, and Patton's one of them.

753
00:37:35,840 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: We took the Cardinals across the board. I'm sure Mark you,

754
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:40,399
Speaker 1: I'm sure you've got a bunch of tweets about it.

755
00:37:40,840 --> 00:37:43,439
Speaker 1: There's a fan that ranked all one and seventy eight

756
00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: losses since nineteen nine. I read that he did a

757
00:37:45,880 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: great job. Would you say that it was comprehensive? Obviously?

758
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:51,239
Speaker 1: Would you say it was accurate? Well, he said up

759
00:37:51,280 --> 00:37:53,279
Speaker 1: to I think he's I can tell that he and

760
00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 1: are a little bit of a different age because he

761
00:37:55,239 --> 00:37:57,520
Speaker 1: seemed to have more emphasis on a little bit of

762
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 1: a different time period to late twenties. I believe, yeah,

763
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,719
Speaker 1: And but he did an excellent job, and I don't

764
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: I wouldn't disagree with some of some of the bigger

765
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 1: ones he picked, you know, he and when you get

766
00:38:06,640 --> 00:38:09,319
Speaker 1: to the bottom sixty that list, you're just going through it.

767
00:38:09,360 --> 00:38:11,560
Speaker 1: But I remember most of them. I think most Browns

768
00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:14,760
Speaker 1: fans do, al right. Next up, the New York Giants

769
00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:18,480
Speaker 1: travel to Nolans to face the Saints. Greg, you went

770
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,279
Speaker 1: to two lanes, so you have you know, you have

771
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: an affinity. I would call it for the Saints, especially

772
00:38:24,760 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: the old ones. Not really I've kind of lost it, okay, alright,

773
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:33,120
Speaker 1: but as they start to struggle once they want the

774
00:38:33,120 --> 00:38:35,520
Speaker 1: super Bowl, was like, okay, that was good. Then they

775
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: got to their heads a little bit. Wow, big game

776
00:38:38,280 --> 00:38:41,040
Speaker 1: for both teams. The Giants four and three currently atop

777
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,840
Speaker 1: the NFC East. Uh, and the Saints, you know, showing

778
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:46,880
Speaker 1: some signs of life now three and four have a

779
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,520
Speaker 1: chance to get to five hundred big, big game. And

780
00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 1: uh I believe, yes, I am the only one of

781
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:55,440
Speaker 1: the group that took the Giants in this game. I

782
00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:59,279
Speaker 1: guess I don't know. The Saints have been better, yes,

783
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,200
Speaker 1: and the Giants are The Giants are the middle of

784
00:39:03,239 --> 00:39:04,920
Speaker 1: the road team. But I have a bit of a

785
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:17,160
Speaker 1: sessler here that Odell Beckham Jr. Is gonna rip this

786
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,719
Speaker 1: game apart two two hundred yard game, multiple scores, and

787
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:23,680
Speaker 1: when the game's over and say, oh, this game was

788
00:39:23,760 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: won by the Giants because O d B. Who's practicing again.

789
00:39:27,080 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: That's part of the reason hamstrings feeling better against a

790
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,680
Speaker 1: bad secondary. I believe ODB will win this game almost

791
00:39:33,719 --> 00:39:36,640
Speaker 1: single handedly. Homecoming for him too, That's right. Went to

792
00:39:36,719 --> 00:39:38,720
Speaker 1: high school. Went to the same high school's Eli Manning,

793
00:39:39,800 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: which is insane because it's like a small, predominantly Jewish school.

794
00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:50,080
Speaker 1: It's not. It's not like some gigantic big football parents

795
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: are like huge athletes who probably had the means to

796
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:56,960
Speaker 1: send him, but like nine ft tall, like his dad

797
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:59,000
Speaker 1: played running back for l s U and his mom

798
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 1: was a sprinter, was it or Newman? I could totally

799
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,920
Speaker 1: see that happening to and Beckham seems like he has

800
00:40:04,960 --> 00:40:06,759
Speaker 1: a flair for that. He's got two hundred people in

801
00:40:06,800 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: the crowd and he'll put on a show for them.

802
00:40:10,160 --> 00:40:11,879
Speaker 1: I think the Saints have to feel good that their

803
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,319
Speaker 1: offense is starting to look a little bit like they

804
00:40:14,760 --> 00:40:17,760
Speaker 1: they were planning for it to look in the off season,

805
00:40:17,880 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 1: even though they weren't racking up yards against the Colts.

806
00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,440
Speaker 1: They have more of a rhythm lately, and they're using

807
00:40:23,480 --> 00:40:25,799
Speaker 1: all three running backs and there they had a good

808
00:40:25,880 --> 00:40:28,720
Speaker 1: running performance in Indianapolis. I think they have to feel

809
00:40:28,719 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: good about how Ingram and Spiller and even Robinson they're

810
00:40:32,040 --> 00:40:34,560
Speaker 1: using at the goal line looked and that they're finally

811
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,480
Speaker 1: kind of having that plan of keeping the other team

812
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:39,399
Speaker 1: off the field starting to work. I mean, there's three

813
00:40:39,400 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 1: and three and one in the last four games, and

814
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: they're certainly not a complete team that scares you, but

815
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:49,280
Speaker 1: it feels like rob Bryan's defense has turned a little

816
00:40:49,280 --> 00:40:51,359
Speaker 1: bit of a corner where some of the players that

817
00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,040
Speaker 1: just weren't even on the map are starting to show up.

818
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:57,880
Speaker 1: They look I think Andrew luck Is obviously has his issues,

819
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,279
Speaker 1: but they put him into some bad places last week.

820
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:02,799
Speaker 1: I mean they I haven't seen a luck play a

821
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:05,040
Speaker 1: game like that in a while. And and and I

822
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:06,799
Speaker 1: do think the running back thing, I don't know why

823
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:08,520
Speaker 1: it took so long. I asked Chris Is why it

824
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:11,000
Speaker 1: took so long to get Ingram involved. They were obviously

825
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 1: really trying to get Spiller the ball involved. No, no,

826
00:41:16,120 --> 00:41:19,479
Speaker 1: but last game he barely played until deep into the

827
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:21,400
Speaker 1: first half and then he went off. And it's like,

828
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,360
Speaker 1: to me, that is your best running back. Heads, I

829
00:41:24,400 --> 00:41:27,239
Speaker 1: think they've done a terrible job not giving Spiller the

830
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:29,400
Speaker 1: shot in this offense. I don't think he's got enough

831
00:41:29,440 --> 00:41:32,879
Speaker 1: time they tried in the last game they threw He's

832
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,480
Speaker 1: not back to explosive Spiller yet after having that, he

833
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 1: doesn't have the same juice. I mean, he was one

834
00:41:38,560 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 1: of the few guys that really leaps off the screen,

835
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:44,600
Speaker 1: and he's had a couple of chances where he had

836
00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: some room and he doesn't have it. Their passing game

837
00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: is just remains funky to me. Though It's okay it

838
00:41:49,719 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: was at least it's moving the ball. It's looking more

839
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:53,920
Speaker 1: like the Saints, though, I think it just feels like

840
00:41:53,920 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: four thousand bubble screens in the occasional pass downfield. Prince

841
00:41:58,120 --> 00:42:02,680
Speaker 1: Abu Kamara, the Giants cornerback. Um, you know JPP is

842
00:42:02,719 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 1: back with the team now and he's practiced. Really haven't

843
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,480
Speaker 1: heard about this? Yeah, and he might even the Lockness Monster.

844
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:09,480
Speaker 1: He might even play this week? Is that a possibility

845
00:42:09,520 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 1: or maybe next week? Um, I think it'll be sooner. Well,

846
00:42:12,480 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: he's got a lot of money riding on it, so

847
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: I would think it's gonna be sooner than people expect.

848
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Speaker 1: And uh, Principle Kamara had this to say, just never

849
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Speaker 1: on Jpp's hand. Just never seen anything like that. I've

850
00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:29,040
Speaker 1: never seen a hand like that before. That's not my monster.

851
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,800
Speaker 1: I mean, why not remember remember when they threw Princes

852
00:42:33,000 --> 00:42:34,880
Speaker 1: in the cold tub when he was a rookie and

853
00:42:34,920 --> 00:42:37,480
Speaker 1: then he got picked on ceaselessly. It's like, dude, you

854
00:42:37,480 --> 00:42:41,759
Speaker 1: don't say that. Let's maintain some sembe. What's that? Just

855
00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:45,560
Speaker 1: that they they all were saying like they're all like

856
00:42:45,640 --> 00:42:47,839
Speaker 1: kind of hovering around like they want they want him

857
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:49,719
Speaker 1: to take it out and show a look. I mean

858
00:42:49,719 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 1: they want he wanted to show them all, which makes sense.

859
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:55,400
Speaker 1: Are you human and I think he's doing it. I

860
00:42:55,440 --> 00:42:57,800
Speaker 1: don't want to see jpps hand's charging like you know,

861
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: he lost a lot of money. He's charging twenty bucks

862
00:43:00,520 --> 00:43:03,600
Speaker 1: of pop just to take you gotta minute, like after

863
00:43:03,640 --> 00:43:06,160
Speaker 1: I look behind the curtain after Prince says that though

864
00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:07,960
Speaker 1: you kind of want to see it a little bit

865
00:43:07,960 --> 00:43:09,319
Speaker 1: more now, don't you. I don't want to see his

866
00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:14,600
Speaker 1: hand at all. We've kind of seen it, but it said,

867
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: it's unlike anything he's ever seen before. I'm legitimately curious

868
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,640
Speaker 1: in a bad way. I would pay. I don't like

869
00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: bad things roller coasters. I don't get him. That's wrong.

870
00:43:27,040 --> 00:43:32,239
Speaker 1: We didn't really pay. That would be awesome if he

871
00:43:32,280 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: started charging people to look at his hand, that would

872
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 1: be think a big game. Though you're right about that.

873
00:43:38,760 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: This is snaky big game for these two teams. It's

874
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,879
Speaker 1: the Thursday Show, which means only it could mean only

875
00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: one thing. Well, can mean a lot of things. A

876
00:43:46,239 --> 00:43:48,080
Speaker 1: lot of things happen in the show, but one thing

877
00:43:48,120 --> 00:43:52,320
Speaker 1: that always happens is Andrew Siciliano of NFL Networks around

878
00:43:52,360 --> 00:43:56,560
Speaker 1: the NFL stops by to talk some football here. He

879
00:43:56,680 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: is welcome to the show. Andrew, good day, gentleman, Andrew

880
00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: hosts the television version around the NFL, which you could

881
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: see five times a week on NFL Network. We can

882
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: handsome today, when can we see why? Thank you? I

883
00:44:08,960 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 1: still help my makeup? On You could see it at

884
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:16,240
Speaker 1: six pm Eastern Time Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and Friday. Thursday's

885
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 1: little different because they got football that day. Three hour

886
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,239
Speaker 1: show begins at two pm Eastern. I actually said today

887
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: today is being Thursday. When we taped this, I actually said,

888
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:30,040
Speaker 1: coming up tonight Monday night. No gosh, Thursday, Thursday night football.

889
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:34,840
Speaker 1: So Andrew's back. I love having Andrew in the room.

890
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: Let's get into more gain. Let's start with a little

891
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:40,319
Speaker 1: a f C North showdown. We like to save a

892
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: good one for Andrew. The Cincinnati Ben gals uh six

893
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: and oh this season Andy Dalton, a new man, all

894
00:44:48,000 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 1: that good stuff. Now they head to hines Field to

895
00:44:51,040 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: face the Steelers, and it's gonna be a different Steelers

896
00:44:52,960 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: team that we've seen um in the last few weeks

897
00:44:56,920 --> 00:45:00,800
Speaker 1: because Ben Roethlisberger gonna be playing, which chang just everything,

898
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: doesn't it, Andrew? I think it does. You know what's

899
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:06,920
Speaker 1: what I think it's really stood out. You know, you

900
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,799
Speaker 1: always see someone's value when they're not there. I mean

901
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,520
Speaker 1: example in Dallas now with Romo the last couple of

902
00:45:12,520 --> 00:45:14,799
Speaker 1: weeks without Ben. He's been out since week three. Kind

903
00:45:14,800 --> 00:45:17,560
Speaker 1: of like when I was in London last week Operation

904
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:20,719
Speaker 1: this thing had no energy. It was lacking, you know,

905
00:45:20,800 --> 00:45:23,319
Speaker 1: hand Zeus was taking these veiled shots at both you

906
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,920
Speaker 1: and I. For the Browns, I don't even remember what

907
00:45:24,920 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 1: they were it was. It was just it was uncomfortable anyway,

908
00:45:29,840 --> 00:45:34,600
Speaker 1: But hey, the Jets lost. He so where was I?

909
00:45:35,080 --> 00:45:40,200
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, so without Ben? But with Antonio Brown, with

910
00:45:40,320 --> 00:45:44,359
Speaker 1: Levy on Bell, with what am I missing? Marta mart

911
00:45:44,360 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: Tavis Bryant wasn't there for a lot of this. But

912
00:45:46,120 --> 00:45:48,759
Speaker 1: the fact is without Ben, even with those weapons, they

913
00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,000
Speaker 1: weren't moving the ball, they weren't explosive. And that's a

914
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 1: testament that really how good he is. And I know

915
00:45:53,760 --> 00:45:56,080
Speaker 1: it's also a testament to what Michael Vickers becam or

916
00:45:56,120 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 1: what Landry Jones still is not yet. But he is

917
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,960
Speaker 1: that valuable and they need this game. Guys. If the

918
00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:05,920
Speaker 1: Bengals win this game, the division is over. It is over.

919
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 1: The Germans have bomb Pearl Harbor. And if you don't

920
00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:12,640
Speaker 1: get the joke, it's your fault, okay, and it will

921
00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,640
Speaker 1: be over the first week of November. And this isn't

922
00:46:14,680 --> 00:46:19,640
Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger from two thousand twelve even or two thousand nine,

923
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: when I was always a big fan. I think he

924
00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 1: still was a top six or seven quarterback. I think

925
00:46:23,320 --> 00:46:26,560
Speaker 1: he can be at another level this year. And he

926
00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,600
Speaker 1: started off this year at another level than he's ever

927
00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 1: been before, because he's been in this system a while,

928
00:46:32,200 --> 00:46:34,719
Speaker 1: because of the talent around him, and because I think

929
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 1: his mental game has caught up now at this point

930
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,799
Speaker 1: of his career is his physical game. I think he

931
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:41,400
Speaker 1: was on his way to being right there with Brady

932
00:46:41,440 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 1: and Rodgers as the best quarterback in the league. And

933
00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:45,480
Speaker 1: suddenly you add that back to the mix. This has

934
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,560
Speaker 1: gotta be one of the best games that we've had

935
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: of the season so far. We got a couple of

936
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:52,359
Speaker 1: them this well, suddenly that quarterback is Andy Dalton. Well,

937
00:46:52,400 --> 00:46:54,560
Speaker 1: I wouldn't go that far. It is right now Redhead

938
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:57,800
Speaker 1: Jimmy Neutron. Maybe not from a career angle, but this season,

939
00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:01,799
Speaker 1: I mean, honestly, Dalton hasn't had a bad quarter I

940
00:47:02,560 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 1: hold in my hand. Oh no. The Week eight research

941
00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:15,200
Speaker 1: notes from Medical Network Wise Life of highway. That what

942
00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:16,960
Speaker 1: we could have to do with an Andy Dalton stat

943
00:47:17,000 --> 00:47:19,440
Speaker 1: You're about to read Tom Cocher in Life is a Highway.

944
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,560
Speaker 1: What a big hit that was? Well, it was. It's

945
00:47:21,600 --> 00:47:23,880
Speaker 1: been wang chung for a few weeks. Just to let

946
00:47:23,880 --> 00:47:26,120
Speaker 1: everyone know. Whenever, whenever here, I'll show you again. Whenever

947
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 1: I hoist this in the air. It's a celebration. It's

948
00:47:33,160 --> 00:47:36,880
Speaker 1: the party is on. So when that hits your email

949
00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,360
Speaker 1: at Tuesday night at roughly ten pm, the party begins.

950
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,200
Speaker 1: It's basically Dan's only access to football information. I didn't

951
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:45,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know anything until I found this. Do you

952
00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 1: want my password? From stat saying you need them? Don't

953
00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:50,600
Speaker 1: need it? Got the research guide and according to the

954
00:47:50,680 --> 00:47:53,800
Speaker 1: Research Guide, into Mark's point that Andy Dalton perhaps a

955
00:47:53,880 --> 00:47:57,560
Speaker 1: god now with flaming hair. Dalton has the highest fourth

956
00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,399
Speaker 1: quarter pass rating in the NFL this season, at six

957
00:48:00,400 --> 00:48:03,840
Speaker 1: point three. In his first four seasons, Dalton's combined the

958
00:48:03,880 --> 00:48:07,719
Speaker 1: fourth quarter pass rating was eighty two point eight. And

959
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:11,759
Speaker 1: football this is a different quarterback, which means even though

960
00:48:11,800 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: I'm I think the Steelers will win this game, I

961
00:48:13,960 --> 00:48:17,320
Speaker 1: also have trepidation because this is not gonna be Dalton

962
00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: flaming out in a big spot. I just don't see it.

963
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:23,919
Speaker 1: He has the highest rating in football period. Correct, he's

964
00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: regardless of quarter He's throwing just about a perfect game.

965
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:29,440
Speaker 1: You've seen a lot of Bengals teams over the years, Chris,

966
00:48:29,480 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 1: I know you're pretending you're not at all invested in

967
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:37,000
Speaker 1: this one. You certainly like it. Just think, like, what

968
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:38,759
Speaker 1: do you expect that of this team coming up in

969
00:48:38,800 --> 00:48:42,920
Speaker 1: a big buy, in a big game. I there is

970
00:48:44,880 --> 00:48:49,040
Speaker 1: I expect the Steelers to win. I think this Bengals

971
00:48:49,080 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 1: team I don't recognize their d n A. They're much different.

972
00:48:51,480 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: They don't crumble. Having said that, it's almost like the

973
00:48:55,160 --> 00:48:57,440
Speaker 1: Steelers are not only getting Big Ben back, they're getting

974
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,520
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown back because they have you used him for

975
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:03,919
Speaker 1: the last three or five backs they've they've used. They've

976
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: shelved half their offense, They've shackled their quarterbacks and not

977
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:10,319
Speaker 1: let them throw. I think this is huge getting Big

978
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,080
Speaker 1: Ben be because you're using Antonio Brown again. Ben didn't

979
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:14,960
Speaker 1: have Martevis Bryant earlier in the year when he was

980
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:17,200
Speaker 1: playing so well, and it's hard to find a more

981
00:49:17,200 --> 00:49:21,360
Speaker 1: explosive trio than lev Bell, Martvis Bryant Antonio Brown, and

982
00:49:21,400 --> 00:49:23,480
Speaker 1: I was talking to Brian Billick about this couple of

983
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 1: days ago. This isn't the old Ben that would extend plays,

984
00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:29,359
Speaker 1: that would run around the pocket and try to get

985
00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:33,280
Speaker 1: guys loose downfield. This is the Ben that is getting

986
00:49:33,320 --> 00:49:35,880
Speaker 1: the ball and throwing the ball. And whether that's a

987
00:49:35,920 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 1: testament to his maturity, as Greg said, or a testament

988
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:41,799
Speaker 1: to the fact that that's what Todd Hayley wants to

989
00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: do when they're finally on the same page now and whatever,

990
00:49:44,000 --> 00:49:47,160
Speaker 1: this whatever year this is. He I don't know that

991
00:49:47,200 --> 00:49:49,560
Speaker 1: he's truly going to be limited in his return. It's

992
00:49:49,560 --> 00:49:51,919
Speaker 1: a pain issue. Certainly Kurt was saying that as well.

993
00:49:51,960 --> 00:49:55,200
Speaker 1: It's a pain issue, but uh, he gets that ball

994
00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 1: out quickly. I trust Ben Roethlisberger to make it through pain,

995
00:49:58,239 --> 00:50:01,400
Speaker 1: though honestly he's gonna he's gonna whine about it and

996
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,240
Speaker 1: let the whole country know that he's playing through because

997
00:50:04,239 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 1: that's what Big Ben does. But he is tough, he

998
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: is a master at that. Yes, they also get Ryan

999
00:50:09,760 --> 00:50:13,560
Speaker 1: schis ear back, which is a huge addition a sack,

1000
00:50:13,840 --> 00:50:16,120
Speaker 1: and I think with him in the mix, and you

1001
00:50:16,160 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 1: have the Bengals. To me, It's the most fascinat game

1002
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,919
Speaker 1: the the year, just about because the Bengals can make

1003
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:22,799
Speaker 1: such a statement by winning this game. And that's why

1004
00:50:22,800 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: I think the Steelers a win, just because I don't

1005
00:50:24,480 --> 00:50:26,200
Speaker 1: feel like this is the vision that should be over

1006
00:50:26,200 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: in weekend. Just shouldn't so because Greg Rosenthal doesn't want something.

1007
00:50:29,760 --> 00:50:32,719
Speaker 1: That's how seasons. It's how seasons play out, though they

1008
00:50:32,760 --> 00:50:37,920
Speaker 1: have certain based on your wishes. But I do like

1009
00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:40,640
Speaker 1: the thing about the injuries. Though there's most quarterbacks, most

1010
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:43,360
Speaker 1: players are no, no, it's a flesh wound. God doesn't

1011
00:50:43,360 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: play dice with the universe, but Greg Rosenthal plays dice

1012
00:50:46,120 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 1: with the NFL season. No gambling propositions. Uh Cessler and

1013
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:56,160
Speaker 1: Patrick Bolt took the Bengals with confidence. I'm taking the bank, Oh,

1014
00:50:56,200 --> 00:51:00,440
Speaker 1: I like that, and just Siciliano the rest of the

1015
00:51:00,440 --> 00:51:04,760
Speaker 1: group took the Steelers. Moving on a little NFC West

1016
00:51:04,840 --> 00:51:08,879
Speaker 1: showdown the San Francisco forty Niners. There's some stuff going

1017
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:11,479
Speaker 1: on in that locker room right now. Who knows, uh

1018
00:51:11,520 --> 00:51:14,120
Speaker 1: if the Niners have too many wins left, I just don't.

1019
00:51:14,200 --> 00:51:15,480
Speaker 1: I think this could be the worst team in the

1020
00:51:15,600 --> 00:51:17,239
Speaker 1: NFL by the time the season is over. Didn't we

1021
00:51:17,239 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 1: say that week one? We thought that when being me,

1022
00:51:21,160 --> 00:51:22,680
Speaker 1: and then after week one I was like, oh wait

1023
00:51:22,680 --> 00:51:24,759
Speaker 1: a second, maybe they're not that bad. Now it's starting

1024
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,000
Speaker 1: to feel like they could be that again. They faced

1025
00:51:27,000 --> 00:51:30,520
Speaker 1: the St. Louis Rams and in the Edward James almost

1026
00:51:30,560 --> 00:51:33,480
Speaker 1: dome and I let's let's just let's just say it. Okay,

1027
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: what what's that? Edward James almost? Okay, you haven't heard

1028
00:51:38,840 --> 00:51:41,320
Speaker 1: him saying that before. Welcome to the Around the Animal podcast.

1029
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:47,000
Speaker 1: Two years marksmen in London, A long time um the

1030
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:49,759
Speaker 1: Edward James almost though. If the Rams don't take care

1031
00:51:49,760 --> 00:51:53,640
Speaker 1: of his this week, I'll never take them seriously West

1032
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: How could you know you forked them if they don't

1033
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: win this week? Because the forty Niners are a bad,

1034
00:51:58,239 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: bad football team, and the AM's they fly to the

1035
00:52:01,719 --> 00:52:04,440
Speaker 1: ball on defense in that dome, and they also have

1036
00:52:04,520 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley, who to me is right there with Levan

1037
00:52:06,960 --> 00:52:09,319
Speaker 1: Bell is the best running back in football. I don't

1038
00:52:09,400 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: need I hate this theory that I need to see

1039
00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,799
Speaker 1: more than three games. No, you don't. As Brian Baldinger said,

1040
00:52:14,800 --> 00:52:17,439
Speaker 1: my mom could scout Todd Gurley. This is easy to tell.

1041
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:20,479
Speaker 1: He's one of the best running back. Mrs Baldinger liked

1042
00:52:20,640 --> 00:52:24,520
Speaker 1: Brian or Rich better on the field. If she if

1043
00:52:24,520 --> 00:52:27,399
Speaker 1: she's a scout question, Well, she's also watched a lot

1044
00:52:27,400 --> 00:52:30,720
Speaker 1: of football games, and she's focusing in online play because

1045
00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,560
Speaker 1: of her son's career, So she might be a better

1046
00:52:33,560 --> 00:52:35,840
Speaker 1: scout than anyone in this room. I don't doubt that

1047
00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 1: Marshall falk by the way his sit down or stand

1048
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:40,840
Speaker 1: up he does both. With Todd Gurley coming up on

1049
00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:44,440
Speaker 1: game day morning, I digress Gurley is awesome. He's everything

1050
00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 1: we thought he was going to And imagine, imagine what

1051
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:49,879
Speaker 1: happens when he actually does get healthy. And obviously he's

1052
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:52,720
Speaker 1: healthy enough to play right now. But ask anybody who's

1053
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: had the A c L. You're better than year two

1054
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:56,560
Speaker 1: than you are and year one. He looked pretty healthy

1055
00:52:56,560 --> 00:52:58,160
Speaker 1: on that play last week. It was like a twelve

1056
00:52:58,239 --> 00:53:00,000
Speaker 1: yard game and he shot out of a canon then

1057
00:53:00,080 --> 00:53:04,560
Speaker 1: vaulted over someone. Yeah, he's really really good. He is

1058
00:53:04,600 --> 00:53:07,799
Speaker 1: better in the fourth quarter. He has this is my

1059
00:53:07,840 --> 00:53:10,879
Speaker 1: favorite set. I'm cutting off four more times. So he's

1060
00:53:11,040 --> 00:53:13,440
Speaker 1: leading the NFL with a hundred and ten rushing yards

1061
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,120
Speaker 1: per game. That includes his first game where he only

1062
00:53:17,200 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: ran four nine yards. Think about that, and that's absurd.

1063
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,200
Speaker 1: And in the Cleveland game, they there at one point

1064
00:53:24,239 --> 00:53:26,319
Speaker 1: they had they had pretty housed him down. He didn't

1065
00:53:26,320 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 1: have that much yardage in Cleveland, a terrible run stopping defense.

1066
00:53:29,480 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 1: Looks like they had kind of figured out what St.

1067
00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: Louis was doing, but then bang, he rolls out like

1068
00:53:34,280 --> 00:53:37,320
Speaker 1: a forty eight yard game. He's one of Adrian Peterson

1069
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:39,479
Speaker 1: just blows people. And they didn't do anything on offense

1070
00:53:39,560 --> 00:53:43,520
Speaker 1: last week. They had a total yards offense. They need

1071
00:53:43,520 --> 00:53:46,080
Speaker 1: to bench Jared Cook. A few few players hurt their

1072
00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: team on a date and a week by week basis

1073
00:53:48,960 --> 00:53:51,719
Speaker 1: than Jared Cook does with mental mistakes and drops and

1074
00:53:51,800 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: fumbles and everything. It's weird that they keep trotting out there.

1075
00:53:54,680 --> 00:53:57,879
Speaker 1: I know they're not healthy at the position has one

1076
00:53:57,960 --> 00:54:00,239
Speaker 1: hand and I mean that's the issue, right, gotta fun

1077
00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:06,000
Speaker 1: Let me just correct Andrew. That's Jpp. Say again, that's Jpp.

1078
00:54:06,120 --> 00:54:10,640
Speaker 1: That one. That's funny there. Their entire offenses to girl

1079
00:54:11,040 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: and Gadget plays to Tavon Austin. Right, it's figuring out

1080
00:54:13,600 --> 00:54:16,040
Speaker 1: a way to get Nick Foles a shot down the field.

1081
00:54:16,120 --> 00:54:18,000
Speaker 1: You said they fly around at home, and they do

1082
00:54:18,600 --> 00:54:20,840
Speaker 1: and the secondary is what stands out to me and

1083
00:54:20,920 --> 00:54:27,280
Speaker 1: that Browns game, just Tremaine Johnson, Dan t J mcdonne.

1084
00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:29,720
Speaker 1: You can't tell which ones with Rodney McLeod had fumble

1085
00:54:29,760 --> 00:54:33,560
Speaker 1: return touchdown. You know, Greg Williams does does something with secondary,

1086
00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 1: and he is a great coach with the Secondary's known

1087
00:54:36,040 --> 00:54:38,160
Speaker 1: for his pressures. But it reminds me of those Saints

1088
00:54:38,280 --> 00:54:41,319
Speaker 1: teams who that secondary would fly around and they would

1089
00:54:41,360 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: hit and they would just be a problem. And that's

1090
00:54:43,040 --> 00:54:45,000
Speaker 1: why I think this defense. The count was eleven of

1091
00:54:45,080 --> 00:54:47,239
Speaker 1: eleven to start the game, and it looked like St.

1092
00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:50,120
Speaker 1: Louis was completely in control. Well, one of those elevens

1093
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,880
Speaker 1: was the completion that Taylor Gabriel quickly then dropped and

1094
00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 1: allowed Rodney McCloud to run the other way for it. Yes,

1095
00:54:55,120 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 1: that changed the game. But that's the type of plays

1096
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,840
Speaker 1: they make, is big hits. I mean, that's sort of

1097
00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:02,480
Speaker 1: stands out there. Mark Barron had sixteen tackles, and it

1098
00:55:02,520 --> 00:55:04,040
Speaker 1: should be known to Mark Barron is really a weak

1099
00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:08,480
Speaker 1: side linebacker. He's not a safety. Football Focus didn't think

1100
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,560
Speaker 1: much of his performance at all. Well, he had sixteen

1101
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:13,160
Speaker 1: tackles to take that away from and he also had

1102
00:55:13,200 --> 00:55:15,160
Speaker 1: a chin up a helmet up under the chin of

1103
00:55:15,239 --> 00:55:19,120
Speaker 1: Josh McCown which should have been flagged and was not flagged. Um,

1104
00:55:19,480 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 1: they're playing physical football. But to think with the rams,

1105
00:55:21,719 --> 00:55:24,000
Speaker 1: as we have always said, is a fine success be

1106
00:55:24,160 --> 00:55:26,440
Speaker 1: sustain it. And this week is a test for them

1107
00:55:26,480 --> 00:55:28,239
Speaker 1: at a game at home that they should definitely win

1108
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,920
Speaker 1: against a team that they are better than. However, however,

1109
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:35,120
Speaker 1: you know, start stringing wins back to back. This is

1110
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,480
Speaker 1: the if there is such a thing soft spot in

1111
00:55:37,600 --> 00:55:41,080
Speaker 1: their schedule, this is the time for them to show

1112
00:55:41,680 --> 00:55:45,480
Speaker 1: that they are legitimate stacks some wins. And before we

1113
00:55:45,600 --> 00:55:48,960
Speaker 1: move on, the Colin Kaepernick situation, to me, feels like

1114
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:51,360
Speaker 1: it's at a crossroads are now because of that j

1115
00:55:51,520 --> 00:55:54,120
Speaker 1: Glazer report that said he's on an island in the

1116
00:55:54,920 --> 00:55:58,239
Speaker 1: locker room and the confidences quote completely shot, and then

1117
00:55:58,680 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 1: stories come out day after day in San Francisco this

1118
00:56:01,520 --> 00:56:05,040
Speaker 1: week about different players support him in different players do not,

1119
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,000
Speaker 1: and Joe Stallion, Vernon Davis and Vernon Davis by the way,

1120
00:56:08,080 --> 00:56:09,600
Speaker 1: just within the last time and it said that that

1121
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:13,040
Speaker 1: there was no such altercation. He doesn't remember. He says

1122
00:56:13,080 --> 00:56:16,160
Speaker 1: he doesn't remember it. And then they get into his

1123
00:56:16,440 --> 00:56:20,320
Speaker 1: history dating one of Alden's Aldon Smith's ex girlfriend, and

1124
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:23,400
Speaker 1: that was when things started going a little wire, you know, crazy.

1125
00:56:23,600 --> 00:56:25,520
Speaker 1: It just feels like the way he played that Thursday

1126
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:27,640
Speaker 1: night and that was one of the worst performances anyone's

1127
00:56:27,680 --> 00:56:30,120
Speaker 1: had all season. Some of those throws were just insane

1128
00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,200
Speaker 1: for an NFL quarterback, and I feel I feel for

1129
00:56:32,320 --> 00:56:34,880
Speaker 1: jim Tompsweil. As we said, it's like he was hired

1130
00:56:34,960 --> 00:56:38,320
Speaker 1: to rearrange decks chairs on the deck of the Titanic,

1131
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:41,160
Speaker 1: which leads me to the quote when they're a Now

1132
00:56:41,200 --> 00:56:44,040
Speaker 1: he's got a good simpedia. Every day he's being asked

1133
00:56:44,040 --> 00:56:46,160
Speaker 1: about his locker room that is fraying, and the quarterback

1134
00:56:46,239 --> 00:56:48,239
Speaker 1: that doesn't believe in him. This is what Jimmy T

1135
00:56:48,440 --> 00:56:51,560
Speaker 1: had to say. The biggest thing that I actually, let's

1136
00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:55,440
Speaker 1: give me something a little here said. The biggest thing

1137
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,720
Speaker 1: I said to them was, guys, it's like an Italian

1138
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:02,080
Speaker 1: dining room table. Everyone is sitting around the table and

1139
00:57:02,200 --> 00:57:05,200
Speaker 1: sometimes it gets heated, dishes get broken, and people leave,

1140
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,239
Speaker 1: but everybody's gonna come back to the table to eat.

1141
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,120
Speaker 1: When it's all said and done. They is hugging and

1142
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,080
Speaker 1: kissing and we're eating a good food again. So here's

1143
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,400
Speaker 1: the questions. It's about the good food. As the only

1144
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:20,840
Speaker 1: Italian here, why is it acceptable to do that voice,

1145
00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: play that music, because why is it that we could

1146
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:27,040
Speaker 1: kick the Italian? Why is that kicking the tribute? I

1147
00:57:27,080 --> 00:57:30,920
Speaker 1: don't know, but but let's let's pick another random ethnic group.

1148
00:57:31,360 --> 00:57:36,640
Speaker 1: Would you do that same voice to the Swiss? For

1149
00:57:36,880 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 1: the Irish and we're not afraid of him? I would

1150
00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:41,880
Speaker 1: do like a Woody Allen voice with maybe some I

1151
00:57:41,920 --> 00:57:43,640
Speaker 1: don't know. It would be in the background. I'm kidding,

1152
00:57:43,680 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I always think it funny that, like there's,

1153
00:57:47,160 --> 00:57:50,480
Speaker 1: for example, this werks me. There's like the old pasta

1154
00:57:50,560 --> 00:57:53,040
Speaker 1: sauce commercials, and there there'd be there would be the

1155
00:57:53,080 --> 00:57:56,240
Speaker 1: fat Italian grandmother stirring the pot and the kid in

1156
00:57:56,360 --> 00:57:59,240
Speaker 1: the undershirt standing behind the man mom. That's this place.

1157
00:57:59,720 --> 00:58:02,240
Speaker 1: Well all but that that that doesn't offend anybody. Well

1158
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:04,439
Speaker 1: one thing though, Danny grew up in a steel town

1159
00:58:04,520 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: out each and this takes Dandy back to his steel

1160
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: town coal mining. I grew up in an Irish Italian

1161
00:58:10,120 --> 00:58:12,360
Speaker 1: town and the Irish family on my mother's side, but

1162
00:58:12,440 --> 00:58:15,520
Speaker 1: all we ate was Italian food. Does that give me

1163
00:58:15,600 --> 00:58:18,680
Speaker 1: some honorary Italian status? Not really, but personally, I'm not

1164
00:58:18,760 --> 00:58:20,600
Speaker 1: offended and don't care. I just decided to pick a

1165
00:58:20,640 --> 00:58:24,600
Speaker 1: fight with you. Andrew's Aciliano Italian name some Jewish heritage

1166
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: as well. I'm an Italian Jew. Yeah, I'm I'm the one.

1167
00:58:27,480 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: The guys got things covered. Where the Kosher nostra? How

1168
00:58:32,840 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: do we pick this game? I think everybody knows rams

1169
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:40,080
Speaker 1: across the board. Uh, last game we will do with Andrew.

1170
00:58:40,160 --> 00:58:42,320
Speaker 1: Let's talk about a little. This one is not as

1171
00:58:42,360 --> 00:58:45,720
Speaker 1: good Andrew, but it's not personal. The Tennessee Titans one

1172
00:58:45,760 --> 00:58:49,080
Speaker 1: in five this season. We have not forked them. Um,

1173
00:58:49,400 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 1: as you learned on Tuesday's podcast, we're not giving up

1174
00:58:52,240 --> 00:58:55,080
Speaker 1: on the Titans. Or maybe we don't want to give

1175
00:58:55,120 --> 00:58:56,840
Speaker 1: the cults the benefit of the doubt that they're gonna

1176
00:58:56,840 --> 00:59:00,320
Speaker 1: win the right now. Uh, they travel to used them

1177
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: to face the Texans on a forking going on here,

1178
00:59:03,600 --> 00:59:06,360
Speaker 1: A lot a lot of stuff obviously going around in Houston.

1179
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,000
Speaker 1: Ryan Mout got cut obviously, so he's out of the picture.

1180
00:59:10,480 --> 00:59:13,240
Speaker 1: So we'll see how Bill O'Brien's team reacts in the

1181
00:59:13,320 --> 00:59:15,680
Speaker 1: face of some adversity here. T J Yates back in

1182
00:59:15,760 --> 00:59:17,920
Speaker 1: action or back on the team, but it will be

1183
00:59:18,000 --> 00:59:21,600
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer behind quarterback. Mark. I'll start you off with

1184
00:59:21,720 --> 00:59:24,560
Speaker 1: this one. Uh, what is your feeling on the Bill

1185
00:59:24,640 --> 00:59:27,120
Speaker 1: O'Brien or is he in danger? How about Rick Smith

1186
00:59:27,160 --> 00:59:29,960
Speaker 1: as well? I mean it's when it's never a good

1187
00:59:30,040 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: sign when these reports start to flow out that they

1188
00:59:33,360 --> 00:59:35,919
Speaker 1: can't agree and there's and they're both you know, they're

1189
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:38,560
Speaker 1: both reporting to the owner. You have to wonder where

1190
00:59:38,560 --> 00:59:39,920
Speaker 1: they came from. You have to where they came from.

1191
00:59:39,960 --> 00:59:42,240
Speaker 1: But it also is what happens to almost every team

1192
00:59:42,320 --> 00:59:45,200
Speaker 1: that's in an absolute funk like they are, and they

1193
00:59:45,240 --> 00:59:47,440
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback. And the whole thing with Bill

1194
00:59:47,480 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: O'Brien was, you know, another quarterback whisper so called, doesn't

1195
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,840
Speaker 1: have anything to work with at that position because Brian

1196
00:59:54,920 --> 00:59:58,640
Speaker 1: Hoyer put up a nice in relief, a nice performance

1197
00:59:58,640 --> 01:00:00,240
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, and then he's us what

1198
01:00:00,400 --> 01:00:02,880
Speaker 1: we know about Brian Hoyer, And you can't do anything

1199
01:00:03,480 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: in this conference if you don't have a quarterback. If

1200
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,800
Speaker 1: Bill O'Brien is the quarterback whispered, does that mcbarcus Mario

1201
01:00:08,920 --> 01:00:12,720
Speaker 1: to the whispering quarterback that that's the good matchup this week.

1202
01:00:12,760 --> 01:00:14,000
Speaker 1: Do you know how hard it is to miss a

1203
01:00:14,040 --> 01:00:16,440
Speaker 1: team flight. I had this conversation with a couple of

1204
01:00:16,480 --> 01:00:19,120
Speaker 1: guys off the air this week. Now hard. First of all,

1205
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,600
Speaker 1: you gotta go to the team facility, right, that's how

1206
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,000
Speaker 1: they do it. Now, they do T s A. They

1207
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:24,720
Speaker 1: do all that at the facility, and then you get

1208
01:00:24,760 --> 01:00:27,200
Speaker 1: on the bus. Then you go to the airport. Then

1209
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:30,760
Speaker 1: they have to load the stinking plane. That doesn't take

1210
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,680
Speaker 1: I mean it takes a while. It is hard to

1211
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:36,400
Speaker 1: miss a team Here's the thing. Aaron Wilson of the

1212
01:00:36,440 --> 01:00:40,479
Speaker 1: Houston Chronicle UM wrote a report that went up live

1213
01:00:40,800 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 1: last night that not only did he miss the team

1214
01:00:44,040 --> 01:00:48,000
Speaker 1: flight earlier that same day, that same Saturday, he arrived

1215
01:00:48,040 --> 01:00:51,120
Speaker 1: to the facility late for a team meeting and got

1216
01:00:51,240 --> 01:00:53,440
Speaker 1: sent home by the coach. And then there was a

1217
01:00:53,480 --> 01:00:58,080
Speaker 1: host of anonymous quotes um from the Texans players to Wilson,

1218
01:00:58,440 --> 01:01:00,840
Speaker 1: and there were references to, you know, we don't know

1219
01:01:00,880 --> 01:01:02,840
Speaker 1: if this guy's okay, Like what's going on with them?

1220
01:01:02,920 --> 01:01:05,000
Speaker 1: And when you show up late twice in the same

1221
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,640
Speaker 1: day and it's a guy, you know, not to speculate

1222
01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: too much here, but a guy that's had some issues

1223
01:01:09,840 --> 01:01:12,160
Speaker 1: in his past. You start to connect the dots and

1224
01:01:12,200 --> 01:01:14,480
Speaker 1: wonder if there's something bigger going on beyond Oh, this

1225
01:01:14,560 --> 01:01:16,160
Speaker 1: guy is a goober that can't wake up. But you

1226
01:01:16,280 --> 01:01:18,600
Speaker 1: just hope that the guy's okay. I mean, let's let's

1227
01:01:18,600 --> 01:01:20,440
Speaker 1: put that out there as well. We can all mock him.

1228
01:01:20,800 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 1: But um, I liked I was having fun mocking Ryan Mallett.

1229
01:01:24,600 --> 01:01:26,400
Speaker 1: But now it's like you wonder is there's something else

1230
01:01:26,480 --> 01:01:29,440
Speaker 1: cooking and if it becomes a different story. And yet,

1231
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:31,640
Speaker 1: if they win this game, they very well might be

1232
01:01:31,760 --> 01:01:34,000
Speaker 1: tied for first place in the a f C South

1233
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 1: by the end of the day. Brian Hoyer, he's He's

1234
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,600
Speaker 1: a little like Jameis Winston in that you can usually

1235
01:01:41,680 --> 01:01:43,520
Speaker 1: get a feel of what kind of day it's gonna

1236
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:46,240
Speaker 1: be within the first two drives. If Brian Hoyer starts

1237
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:48,760
Speaker 1: off bad, it just gets worse and worse and worse.

1238
01:01:49,040 --> 01:01:51,120
Speaker 1: And if he can start off with a little momentum,

1239
01:01:51,160 --> 01:01:53,000
Speaker 1: and the Titans defense has been playing a little better,

1240
01:01:53,080 --> 01:01:54,480
Speaker 1: I know you they you you kind of like the

1241
01:01:54,520 --> 01:01:57,360
Speaker 1: Titans defense West. What's not to like? Brian Iraq post

1242
01:01:57,400 --> 01:02:00,800
Speaker 1: playing like the old Brian Iraq po Avery Willing Williamson

1243
01:02:00,880 --> 01:02:03,480
Speaker 1: and Wesley wood gird A are hitting really hard in

1244
01:02:03,560 --> 01:02:05,800
Speaker 1: the middle. And then you've got Darell Casey, who is

1245
01:02:05,840 --> 01:02:08,520
Speaker 1: parentingally one of the most underappreciated players in the end.

1246
01:02:09,360 --> 01:02:13,880
Speaker 1: Derrick Morgan's playing well, Derek he uh, the Titans have

1247
01:02:13,960 --> 01:02:15,920
Speaker 1: a chance here. We don't know as we tape this

1248
01:02:16,000 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: if mariotn is gonna play. And that's kind of the

1249
01:02:17,600 --> 01:02:20,120
Speaker 1: million dollar questions. I mean, that really changes. It's like

1250
01:02:20,240 --> 01:02:23,080
Speaker 1: a eighty dollar questions. Say it with me, because Zach

1251
01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 1: Mettenberger just isn't good. Zach not going to admit that

1252
01:02:26,120 --> 01:02:30,160
Speaker 1: seven in his career as editor. Brodie Croyle territory quarterback,

1253
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:32,200
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna admit that. But I'll say this about

1254
01:02:32,200 --> 01:02:34,040
Speaker 1: the a f C playoff picture real quick here. And

1255
01:02:34,080 --> 01:02:37,120
Speaker 1: I meant to say this with the Steelers before. Actually

1256
01:02:37,200 --> 01:02:39,080
Speaker 1: this came up with Derek Johnson this week and the

1257
01:02:39,160 --> 01:02:41,080
Speaker 1: Chiefs is there in London. I was talking to him

1258
01:02:41,080 --> 01:02:43,600
Speaker 1: before he got on the plane. So the Chiefs are

1259
01:02:43,640 --> 01:02:45,480
Speaker 1: two and five. Remember the Chiefs when we sat here

1260
01:02:45,520 --> 01:02:47,440
Speaker 1: a week ago, had the longest losing streak in the

1261
01:02:47,600 --> 01:02:50,320
Speaker 1: NFL at five. Well they're now two and five. But

1262
01:02:50,440 --> 01:02:53,120
Speaker 1: they beat the Steelers last week, and we all agree

1263
01:02:53,240 --> 01:02:55,160
Speaker 1: here that the Steelers aren't going to win the a

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Speaker 1: f C North, and there's a good chance with I

1265
01:02:57,360 --> 01:02:59,760
Speaker 1: don't agree with that, okay, but then I do they're

1266
01:02:59,760 --> 01:03:01,400
Speaker 1: not to when the a f C North, and right

1267
01:03:01,440 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: now you're three undefeated teams lead the three divisions and

1268
01:03:04,360 --> 01:03:06,560
Speaker 1: the other division is led by a team that's under

1269
01:03:06,680 --> 01:03:09,720
Speaker 1: five hundred. So your wild card team is looking at

1270
01:03:10,240 --> 01:03:14,120
Speaker 1: maybe nine and seven here, which means, bear with me,

1271
01:03:14,320 --> 01:03:16,920
Speaker 1: the two in five Kansas City Chiefs are really only

1272
01:03:16,960 --> 01:03:19,280
Speaker 1: two games back of the Steelers, and they've already beaten

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01:03:19,320 --> 01:03:21,680
Speaker 1: the Steelers. The a f C wild card picture is

1274
01:03:21,800 --> 01:03:24,320
Speaker 1: kind of well. They also still are what they are.

1275
01:03:24,600 --> 01:03:27,240
Speaker 1: They are what they are, yes, but I mean that

1276
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:31,280
Speaker 1: speaks to the a f C when you take when

1277
01:03:31,360 --> 01:03:34,480
Speaker 1: you skim the top teams, the unbeaten teams, and if

1278
01:03:34,480 --> 01:03:36,360
Speaker 1: you want to throw in the Dolphins or the Jets,

1279
01:03:36,920 --> 01:03:39,680
Speaker 1: skim them off the top, what else is left one

1280
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,720
Speaker 1: of these teams that is getting totally disagree. I don't

1281
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: where the Jets and Steelers are obviously way better than

1282
01:03:45,960 --> 01:03:50,680
Speaker 1: these other teams. Steelers, but here I think the Steelers

1283
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:52,600
Speaker 1: I would put with those other teams when they have

1284
01:03:52,720 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: been wrapped. The Steelers Chiefs are like three tiers below those.

1285
01:03:57,120 --> 01:03:59,560
Speaker 1: I understand that. So you have you have the undefeated teams.

1286
01:04:00,280 --> 01:04:04,200
Speaker 1: Then you have the Steelers and the Dolphins. Yeah, and

1287
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:07,200
Speaker 1: the Jets. The Steelers and the Jets, That's what I meant.

1288
01:04:07,560 --> 01:04:10,400
Speaker 1: Then maybe the Dolphins. Maybe I put the Dolphins right

1289
01:04:10,440 --> 01:04:12,320
Speaker 1: there with I know I'm in the minority, So then

1290
01:04:12,320 --> 01:04:13,480
Speaker 1: you have the Dolphins, and then what do you have?

1291
01:04:13,920 --> 01:04:15,560
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. I feel like it's cut and

1292
01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,920
Speaker 1: dry who the wild card favorites are. But I think

1293
01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: the Jets and the Steelers both have a good chance

1294
01:04:20,040 --> 01:04:22,680
Speaker 1: to get to ten or eleven in this game where

1295
01:04:22,720 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: there will be no playoff teams coming out of it.

1296
01:04:24,600 --> 01:04:27,680
Speaker 1: Two of us took the Texans Dan and Connor Um.

1297
01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:31,640
Speaker 1: So that's that. Uh, you know what, Andrew? You said

1298
01:04:31,640 --> 01:04:33,680
Speaker 1: it all. Now, this is the point of the show

1299
01:04:33,720 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: where we start digging into your personal life. What's going

1300
01:04:36,240 --> 01:04:43,000
Speaker 1: on romantically with you? I didn't, but I thought if

1301
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 1: I said it smoothly, you just go roll right with us.

1302
01:04:45,920 --> 01:04:50,640
Speaker 1: And now for something completely different, I have a girlfriend.

1303
01:04:50,640 --> 01:04:55,480
Speaker 1: How about that? You didn't know that? So does Greg?

1304
01:04:56,200 --> 01:04:58,720
Speaker 1: There you go trying to keep that. I'm trying to

1305
01:04:58,880 --> 01:05:02,360
Speaker 1: keep that from my wife. UM my kids actually no

1306
01:05:02,480 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 1: that we take we take them out. But anyway, yeah,

1307
01:05:07,760 --> 01:05:09,960
Speaker 1: so I mean that's that's the answer. All right. So

1308
01:05:10,160 --> 01:05:14,320
Speaker 1: ladies tough cookies, as they say. Andrew again, he is

1309
01:05:14,400 --> 01:05:17,760
Speaker 1: the host of Around the NFL. He is a great

1310
01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:20,160
Speaker 1: guest here in the podcast studio. Thank you for joining us,

1311
01:05:20,200 --> 01:05:23,920
Speaker 1: and I'm sure we're gonna see you very soon. After

1312
01:05:24,000 --> 01:05:27,480
Speaker 1: that last question, I can't wait. It's gonna get that

1313
01:05:27,600 --> 01:05:30,600
Speaker 1: was more surfacing. And now that you know we've kind

1314
01:05:30,600 --> 01:05:32,720
Speaker 1: of jumped in a little bit and got our feet wet,

1315
01:05:33,160 --> 01:05:35,760
Speaker 1: God knows what you're gonna ask next week. We really

1316
01:05:35,800 --> 01:05:41,160
Speaker 1: dig it. Thank you, Andrew. Up next, we have the

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01:05:41,240 --> 01:05:45,200
Speaker 1: New York Jets traveling to Oakland to face the Raiders.

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01:05:46,080 --> 01:05:51,240
Speaker 1: Uh a four oh five kickoff. I am extremely as

1319
01:05:51,280 --> 01:05:53,960
Speaker 1: a Jets fan, I am extremely nervous about this game.

1320
01:05:54,000 --> 01:05:57,280
Speaker 1: The Jets historically don't play well in the black Hole,

1321
01:05:57,520 --> 01:05:59,320
Speaker 1: and this is a Raider's team that's starting to feel

1322
01:05:59,320 --> 01:06:03,280
Speaker 1: good about it health. Um. They are five hundred five

1323
01:06:03,360 --> 01:06:07,560
Speaker 1: hundred Raiders team. Um, right before November. This is something

1324
01:06:07,640 --> 01:06:10,200
Speaker 1: we haven't seen in a long time a team that's uh,

1325
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,840
Speaker 1: legitimately you may not want to play. And I think

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01:06:12,920 --> 01:06:15,120
Speaker 1: the Jets coming off a hard fought game in New

1327
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,320
Speaker 1: England where they came up short. I'm not gonna say

1328
01:06:17,360 --> 01:06:19,600
Speaker 1: it's a letdown game for the Jets, but I would

1329
01:06:19,640 --> 01:06:22,320
Speaker 1: not be surprised if this game is a three point

1330
01:06:22,440 --> 01:06:24,760
Speaker 1: game that and they could go either way. I mean,

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01:06:24,840 --> 01:06:26,840
Speaker 1: I picked the Jets because I'm a Homer, but I

1332
01:06:26,880 --> 01:06:29,040
Speaker 1: could have easily went against him in the spot because

1333
01:06:29,080 --> 01:06:31,360
Speaker 1: I think the Raiders are gonna be a tough beat

1334
01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:33,080
Speaker 1: for just about everyone for the rest of the way.

1335
01:06:33,840 --> 01:06:36,160
Speaker 1: They've been in every game, or or when they're not,

1336
01:06:36,240 --> 01:06:38,520
Speaker 1: they're blowing teams out like they did the Chargers a

1337
01:06:38,600 --> 01:06:44,320
Speaker 1: week ago. I mean, yeah, every game ever, except for

1338
01:06:44,360 --> 01:06:46,720
Speaker 1: the open that's fair when Derek Carr got hurt, but

1339
01:06:46,920 --> 01:06:49,120
Speaker 1: he would they weren't doing well even before he got hurt.

1340
01:06:49,400 --> 01:06:53,200
Speaker 1: I mean, Derek Carr has been very steady. He's got

1341
01:06:53,280 --> 01:06:55,280
Speaker 1: the heater and he's got the touch pass. He's been

1342
01:06:55,400 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: very consistent. I wouldn't say he's flashy, but he he

1343
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,840
Speaker 1: can make every throw and they're protecting him very well well.

1344
01:07:00,840 --> 01:07:02,600
Speaker 1: And it's like we just talked about the Giants and

1345
01:07:02,680 --> 01:07:05,640
Speaker 1: how one guy, Odell Beckham could completely change that game

1346
01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:09,200
Speaker 1: and the Raiders haven't had a guy like that forever.

1347
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:13,160
Speaker 1: And Amari Cooper, I mean, the matchup between Amari Cooper

1348
01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:15,840
Speaker 1: and the secondary is fascinating and that's that's probably gonna

1349
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:18,440
Speaker 1: dictate what happens for the Raiders offense. Listen to the

1350
01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,440
Speaker 1: stat on Cooper. By the way he is, he's a

1351
01:07:20,560 --> 01:07:23,640
Speaker 1: thirty three five nineteen and three. You know, there was

1352
01:07:23,680 --> 01:07:26,280
Speaker 1: a lot of talk before this draft that this up,

1353
01:07:26,440 --> 01:07:30,439
Speaker 1: this wide receiver class could rival last year's historic wide

1354
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:35,560
Speaker 1: receiver class. So those numbers are better combined than the

1355
01:07:35,720 --> 01:07:38,320
Speaker 1: other five wide receivers in the first round, Kevin White,

1356
01:07:38,400 --> 01:07:42,760
Speaker 1: DeVante Parker, Nelson Aguilar, Fod Perriman, and Philip Dorsett. Like

1357
01:07:42,920 --> 01:07:46,040
Speaker 1: all those guys do not match what Amark Cooper has done,

1358
01:07:46,080 --> 01:07:48,480
Speaker 1: which tells you two things. Cooper has been awesome and

1359
01:07:48,560 --> 01:07:50,440
Speaker 1: the rest of those guys, every single one has been

1360
01:07:50,480 --> 01:07:52,480
Speaker 1: a huge disappointed. Well most of them have been hurt.

1361
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,120
Speaker 1: But but point point being, that is nothing like last

1362
01:07:56,200 --> 01:07:58,360
Speaker 1: year's class because one of them is so clearly better

1363
01:07:58,400 --> 01:08:02,040
Speaker 1: than every single other by leaps bounds. First rookie since

1364
01:08:02,120 --> 01:08:05,880
Speaker 1: Mike Dicka in N one with three games in his

1365
01:08:06,000 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: first six career games. It's a little bit different going

1366
01:08:09,160 --> 01:08:13,120
Speaker 1: against Darryll reevs. Drell Reeva's and Marcus Gilchrist than Jimmy Wilson.

1367
01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,560
Speaker 1: There's just not, though, a lot of wide receivers that

1368
01:08:17,280 --> 01:08:20,240
Speaker 1: catch the forty yard bomb where they high point the

1369
01:08:20,280 --> 01:08:23,560
Speaker 1: ball down the field and make the people miss on

1370
01:08:23,680 --> 01:08:26,840
Speaker 1: a thirty forty yard touchdown and break three or four

1371
01:08:26,920 --> 01:08:29,360
Speaker 1: tack There's not none of any of those receivers. He's

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01:08:29,400 --> 01:08:33,600
Speaker 1: one of them. He's first among starting wide receivers in

1373
01:08:33,880 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: yards after contact and yards after contact per reception, which

1374
01:08:38,200 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: goes to prove what you're saying. I mean. But the

1375
01:08:40,800 --> 01:08:42,840
Speaker 1: thing about the Jets, and I just I think you know,

1376
01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,680
Speaker 1: I picked the Jets because they're just flat out the

1377
01:08:44,760 --> 01:08:48,800
Speaker 1: better team across the board here. But the Raiders in

1378
01:08:48,960 --> 01:08:51,000
Speaker 1: four of six games have not run the ball well.

1379
01:08:51,600 --> 01:08:54,479
Speaker 1: New York is gonna theoretically take that away completely and

1380
01:08:54,560 --> 01:08:57,000
Speaker 1: then just focus on Cooper, and if you erase that

1381
01:08:57,080 --> 01:08:59,680
Speaker 1: matchup or settle them down, I don't see how New

1382
01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,080
Speaker 1: York loses. I feel like the Jets match up well

1383
01:09:02,160 --> 01:09:05,000
Speaker 1: with the Raiders, and I agree, I can see why

1384
01:09:05,160 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 1: Dan would be a little queasy about this because the

1385
01:09:07,520 --> 01:09:10,320
Speaker 1: Raiders are frisky. But I feel like the Jets are

1386
01:09:10,439 --> 01:09:12,400
Speaker 1: like made to beat this Raiders and the and the

1387
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: Raiders have a two good pass rushers in mac and

1388
01:09:14,880 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 1: Alden Smith, and Smith's been playing a little bit better,

1389
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:19,840
Speaker 1: but they don't have a great back seven. I mean,

1390
01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: this has been a good Jets offense. It's been surprisingly good. Fitzpatrick.

1391
01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: I think it's coming off his best two games of

1392
01:09:25,280 --> 01:09:28,360
Speaker 1: the season in a row. Really uh that those last

1393
01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,479
Speaker 1: two and the opener right now Pro Football Focus as

1394
01:09:31,600 --> 01:09:36,160
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick ranked as adding the most rushing value of

1395
01:09:36,320 --> 01:09:38,880
Speaker 1: any running back in the league, better than Cam Better.

1396
01:09:38,960 --> 01:09:43,760
Speaker 1: That doesn't surprise. Russell Wilson better than anyone's and it

1397
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:50,120
Speaker 1: always gets the crowd. He'll run twelve. He's very He's

1398
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,439
Speaker 1: been very good at that all season. I think that's

1399
01:09:52,479 --> 01:09:54,200
Speaker 1: been the thing I've been most surprised about. It's a

1400
01:09:54,240 --> 01:09:56,760
Speaker 1: real element of his game. Chris Ivory is the other

1401
01:09:56,800 --> 01:09:58,160
Speaker 1: guy to keep an eye on here. He was not

1402
01:09:58,360 --> 01:10:01,080
Speaker 1: himself against the Patriots, so that leg dree. He's been

1403
01:10:01,120 --> 01:10:03,479
Speaker 1: practicing this week, So if he's himself, you guys are right.

1404
01:10:03,520 --> 01:10:07,040
Speaker 1: If he's if Ivory's running, you know, downhill, and uh

1405
01:10:07,240 --> 01:10:10,400
Speaker 1: Fits continues to not make mistakes, and Reeves can uh

1406
01:10:10,640 --> 01:10:13,840
Speaker 1: Negate Cooper and Latavius Murray can't run on the Jets line.

1407
01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:16,080
Speaker 1: Those are all things working. And this is a classic

1408
01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:18,400
Speaker 1: Rex Ryan letdown game if he were the Jets coach,

1409
01:10:18,960 --> 01:10:22,200
Speaker 1: not with Todd Bowls like I agree with Mark all right,

1410
01:10:22,240 --> 01:10:25,080
Speaker 1: I'm in, I'm in. I'm confident now, thanks guys. Moving

1411
01:10:25,120 --> 01:10:29,519
Speaker 1: on the Seattle Seahawks. Oh man, the Seahawks there three

1412
01:10:29,560 --> 01:10:31,280
Speaker 1: and four. They need to win here to get back

1413
01:10:31,320 --> 01:10:34,080
Speaker 1: to five hundred and now. They traveled a big duh

1414
01:10:34,160 --> 01:10:36,400
Speaker 1: to face the Cowboys, which is very good news. Every

1415
01:10:36,439 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: all these teams are getting the Cowboys now, or should

1416
01:10:39,000 --> 01:10:41,320
Speaker 1: consider themselves very fortunate. It's gonna be a much tougher

1417
01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,760
Speaker 1: team once they get healthy with Tony Romo there, but

1418
01:10:45,479 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 1: it looks like the Cowboys will get Dez Brian back.

1419
01:10:48,040 --> 01:10:50,880
Speaker 1: He's you know, sometimes with the Jones men, I don't

1420
01:10:50,920 --> 01:10:53,200
Speaker 1: know what to believe when they come down in the media.

1421
01:10:53,280 --> 01:10:57,280
Speaker 1: But there's his quote on target to play Sunday. He's

1422
01:10:57,280 --> 01:11:00,559
Speaker 1: been practicing this week. Uh Joseph Randall, Well, I guess

1423
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:02,960
Speaker 1: we're not gonna see. He's facing either a one or

1424
01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:07,040
Speaker 1: two game suspension regarded to a personal conduct policy connected

1425
01:11:07,080 --> 01:11:10,200
Speaker 1: to a arrest in the off season. But Darren McFadden

1426
01:11:10,400 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 1: probably was the guy anyway West after his game last week, right,

1427
01:11:13,600 --> 01:11:15,680
Speaker 1: good news for the Cowboys that Joseph Randall won't be

1428
01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:18,439
Speaker 1: playing to worry about it was fine. What are you

1429
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:21,240
Speaker 1: talking about. Mcfandon played way better last week than Joseph

1430
01:11:21,320 --> 01:11:24,800
Speaker 1: Randalls ever played in his life. That's not true. Like

1431
01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:26,920
Speaker 1: three weeks ago, four weeks ago when he got shut

1432
01:11:26,960 --> 01:11:29,800
Speaker 1: out for the entire second half that game, mcfannon carried

1433
01:11:29,880 --> 01:11:33,040
Speaker 1: this offense and lost the thirty one yard screen pass

1434
01:11:33,080 --> 01:11:35,400
Speaker 1: touchdown to a bad call. Well, he's not gonna He's

1435
01:11:35,400 --> 01:11:36,920
Speaker 1: not gonna carry it this week, and it won't be

1436
01:11:37,680 --> 01:11:39,360
Speaker 1: to any fault of his own. This is a great

1437
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,200
Speaker 1: matchup in terms of the offensive line against the Seahawks front.

1438
01:11:42,240 --> 01:11:45,680
Speaker 1: But I think this Seahawks team really hasn't been much

1439
01:11:45,760 --> 01:11:48,560
Speaker 1: below where they where they should be all year defensively,

1440
01:11:48,600 --> 01:11:50,439
Speaker 1: and I think they're just ready to go on a

1441
01:11:50,560 --> 01:11:52,800
Speaker 1: run right now. This was the game last year that

1442
01:11:52,920 --> 01:11:55,439
Speaker 1: I think put Dallas on the map more than any

1443
01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,439
Speaker 1: other and said this is what they are on offense,

1444
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,639
Speaker 1: We're gonna eat up forty five minutes of the clock

1445
01:12:00,840 --> 01:12:03,120
Speaker 1: and absolutely beat you up with the run. They just

1446
01:12:03,240 --> 01:12:05,799
Speaker 1: can't do that right now, not with not with Castle

1447
01:12:05,880 --> 01:12:08,800
Speaker 1: under center. Romo was part of the equation, and I

1448
01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:10,320
Speaker 1: think it's a good matchup. But I don't know if

1449
01:12:10,320 --> 01:12:11,760
Speaker 1: it's a good matchup, but I think it's a good

1450
01:12:11,840 --> 01:12:13,920
Speaker 1: way for Russell Wilson to show the country how well

1451
01:12:14,000 --> 01:12:16,559
Speaker 1: he's playing. I think he's playing better right now. Pete

1452
01:12:16,600 --> 01:12:18,880
Speaker 1: Carroll said it this week that he thinks Wilson's playing

1453
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:21,439
Speaker 1: better from the pocket than ever. I agree. I think

1454
01:12:21,520 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: Wilson's having a better start to the season than he's

1455
01:12:24,320 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 1: ever had. And to your point, Mark, I didn't think

1456
01:12:27,680 --> 01:12:30,479
Speaker 1: Romo got enough credit last year for his role and

1457
01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:33,600
Speaker 1: how great the running game was because you looked at

1458
01:12:33,640 --> 01:12:35,360
Speaker 1: his numbers and they were killing number and they weren't

1459
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,920
Speaker 1: like playing around him. No, all anybody was talking about

1460
01:12:39,400 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: Romo was great because of the run game. But the

1461
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:44,160
Speaker 1: run game needs that quarterback as well, So Matt Castle

1462
01:12:44,240 --> 01:12:46,439
Speaker 1: is gonna have to do some things for the running

1463
01:12:46,479 --> 01:12:48,720
Speaker 1: games work. Darren McFadden is not going to be able

1464
01:12:48,720 --> 01:12:51,280
Speaker 1: to be an ugly game for Matt Castle. Do you

1465
01:12:51,720 --> 01:12:54,800
Speaker 1: know you're thinking blow Sherman's Sherman Richard Sherman is now

1466
01:12:55,040 --> 01:12:58,400
Speaker 1: shadowing number one receivers around the field, so if Dez plays,

1467
01:12:58,439 --> 01:12:59,760
Speaker 1: he'll be on him. I don't think you want to

1468
01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:01,479
Speaker 1: play the Seahawks right now. I just think I don't

1469
01:13:01,520 --> 01:13:03,960
Speaker 1: care about to. They're about to drop some I mean,

1470
01:13:04,040 --> 01:13:06,560
Speaker 1: Dallas is giving up about thirty thirty one points a

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Speaker 1: game over the last four games. Their defense is not

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Speaker 1: you know, honey either, and it has to do with

1473
01:13:11,040 --> 01:13:14,599
Speaker 1: what's happening on offense. We took the Seahawks across the board.

1474
01:13:14,680 --> 01:13:17,839
Speaker 1: Let's move to Sunday night football, the Green Bay Packers

1475
01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:21,000
Speaker 1: and the Denver Broncos, a matchup of two six and

1476
01:13:21,080 --> 01:13:26,519
Speaker 1: old teams Hubba Hubba and two iconic quarterbacks. Aaron Rodgers

1477
01:13:26,600 --> 01:13:29,800
Speaker 1: at the height of his powers, Peyton Manning not quite

1478
01:13:31,080 --> 01:13:35,599
Speaker 1: but but when the lights are on and the pressure

1479
01:13:35,680 --> 01:13:38,479
Speaker 1: is on and Peyton needs to put on a display,

1480
01:13:39,040 --> 01:13:41,840
Speaker 1: He's gonna step up and deliver in a big spot,

1481
01:13:41,960 --> 01:13:47,840
Speaker 1: right Mark Seessler, No, okay, No, I mean well, Green

1482
01:13:47,960 --> 01:13:50,880
Speaker 1: Bay is sort of underperformed on offense themselves lately to

1483
01:13:50,960 --> 01:13:53,960
Speaker 1: some degree. But I don't know if it's underperformed, but

1484
01:13:54,160 --> 01:13:57,559
Speaker 1: compared to what I thought, that half the roster's injured,

1485
01:13:58,200 --> 01:13:59,840
Speaker 1: well that would be a good reason. Did There was

1486
01:13:59,880 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: a time though, when we were saying, it doesn't matter

1487
01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,360
Speaker 1: what happens with Green Bay, as long as Aaron Rodgers

1488
01:14:04,439 --> 01:14:07,479
Speaker 1: is healthy, they're gonna shred everyone and everything that's being

1489
01:14:07,560 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 1: proven not quite true. Uh, they need people to be healthy.

1490
01:14:10,800 --> 01:14:12,800
Speaker 1: Randall Copplet's see if the bye week helps him, because

1491
01:14:12,800 --> 01:14:14,479
Speaker 1: he has not been the same guy for about a month.

1492
01:14:14,680 --> 01:14:16,800
Speaker 1: I think with Denver it's you don't need this. This

1493
01:14:16,960 --> 01:14:19,200
Speaker 1: isn't a Peyton Manning led team the same way it

1494
01:14:19,280 --> 01:14:21,000
Speaker 1: was it on any level. We've known that for a

1495
01:14:21,080 --> 01:14:24,320
Speaker 1: month plus. It's this defense for Aaron Rodgers, but it

1496
01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:27,800
Speaker 1: needs to be a respectable Peyton Manning. This is not

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01:14:28,080 --> 01:14:30,880
Speaker 1: sustainable as it is now. I agree with that. I

1498
01:14:30,920 --> 01:14:35,160
Speaker 1: mean this this game weirdly isn't getting as much attention

1499
01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,240
Speaker 1: as it should. I mean, I think it was. It's

1500
01:14:37,280 --> 01:14:40,000
Speaker 1: only the third time or the fourth time in NFL

1501
01:14:40,160 --> 01:14:43,280
Speaker 1: history that two teams undefeated this late in the season

1502
01:14:43,360 --> 01:14:46,280
Speaker 1: have played, and one of those was in one and

1503
01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 1: one was Giants Niners on Monday night back and I

1504
01:14:49,560 --> 01:14:53,560
Speaker 1: think any other was Colts Pats. I think it was

1505
01:14:53,680 --> 01:14:55,559
Speaker 1: two thousand and eight. It's something like that. They were

1506
01:14:55,600 --> 01:14:59,040
Speaker 1: eight seven and two thousand seven. This this is an

1507
01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:01,200
Speaker 1: unbelievable man match up and I want to see if

1508
01:15:01,240 --> 01:15:04,320
Speaker 1: the Packers offense can move the ball against this Bronco.

1509
01:15:04,320 --> 01:15:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that is such a great matchup. And I

1510
01:15:06,040 --> 01:15:08,040
Speaker 1: was expecting the bye week, like you were west to

1511
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,760
Speaker 1: help them out a lot. And who knows if we'll

1512
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:12,600
Speaker 1: even know what they really are on offense because they

1513
01:15:12,640 --> 01:15:16,000
Speaker 1: have to go up against the historically good defense. Broncos

1514
01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:19,240
Speaker 1: have a plus thirty seven point differential, which is the

1515
01:15:19,360 --> 01:15:22,160
Speaker 1: worst in NFL history for a team that started out six.

1516
01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:24,880
Speaker 1: And oh, that's how bad their offense has been. Their

1517
01:15:25,680 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 1: football outside right their eleventh overall in Football Outsiders numbers.

1518
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:31,479
Speaker 1: Because they have that thirty second ranked offense, that might

1519
01:15:31,520 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 1: be affecting the buzz here is Oh, it definitely is

1520
01:15:34,160 --> 01:15:37,559
Speaker 1: that people do not take the Broncos seriously because everyone

1521
01:15:38,280 --> 01:15:41,200
Speaker 1: is um now believing that Peyton Manning is over the

1522
01:15:41,320 --> 01:15:43,600
Speaker 1: hill and there's no coming back. So they're kind of

1523
01:15:43,680 --> 01:15:47,120
Speaker 1: a soft six And oh, well, that's fair interesting. But

1524
01:15:47,240 --> 01:15:50,920
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers versus this defense that's great, that should sell it.

1525
01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,960
Speaker 1: But but but the other one the Niners Giants game

1526
01:15:55,520 --> 01:16:00,759
Speaker 1: was Joe Montana, Phil Simms. I believe, well, sure, Lawrence Taylor,

1527
01:16:00,840 --> 01:16:03,040
Speaker 1: but there was this. I think maybe what we were

1528
01:16:03,120 --> 01:16:06,000
Speaker 1: saying five weeks ago about Peyton Manning around the NFL's

1529
01:16:06,040 --> 01:16:09,519
Speaker 1: group is now caught on nationally and people finally understand

1530
01:16:09,560 --> 01:16:13,280
Speaker 1: that Peyton Manning is depressing to watch. He is, and

1531
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:16,040
Speaker 1: yet when they've needed a drive from him, you can't

1532
01:16:16,080 --> 01:16:18,519
Speaker 1: ignore that three or four times he's come up with

1533
01:16:18,680 --> 01:16:21,200
Speaker 1: a big drive at the end of games. He's still

1534
01:16:21,280 --> 01:16:25,960
Speaker 1: been a Bruto offense. Here's where I am different than

1535
01:16:26,040 --> 01:16:29,360
Speaker 1: West is that I do still think there's a good

1536
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:33,680
Speaker 1: chance that they figure things out and become mediocre on

1537
01:16:33,840 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: offense and they're passing. I mean, I think they can

1538
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:39,800
Speaker 1: become media. I think you should aspire to mediocrity if

1539
01:16:39,840 --> 01:16:41,800
Speaker 1: you're Peyton Manning. No, but that's that could be good

1540
01:16:41,920 --> 01:16:43,800
Speaker 1: enough to win a Super Bowl then being media. I

1541
01:16:43,840 --> 01:16:46,679
Speaker 1: don't think so. I don't think from what we've seen

1542
01:16:46,760 --> 01:16:50,759
Speaker 1: out of Peyton Manning in January within the Denver Broncos uniform,

1543
01:16:51,200 --> 01:16:53,120
Speaker 1: he's not gonna He's not gonna get better when the

1544
01:16:53,200 --> 01:16:56,479
Speaker 1: elements are hard. Quarterback can't be mediocre and beat Tom Brady.

1545
01:16:56,560 --> 01:17:01,280
Speaker 1: And what if you trade for Matt Forte. I don't

1546
01:17:01,280 --> 01:17:05,320
Speaker 1: think that that helps. Well, I couldn't hurt. But there

1547
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,519
Speaker 1: when when they're running lanes, Ronnie Hillman looks great. We

1548
01:17:08,680 --> 01:17:11,679
Speaker 1: took Green Bay across the board in this game, knocking

1549
01:17:11,800 --> 01:17:15,080
Speaker 1: the Broncos. Uh from the ranks of the unbeaten wow

1550
01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:19,840
Speaker 1: in Denver, which takes us to Monday night football. We

1551
01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,280
Speaker 1: got another undefeated team to talk about here. They are,

1552
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:26,680
Speaker 1: of course, the Carolina Panthers at six and oh um.

1553
01:17:27,920 --> 01:17:31,800
Speaker 1: They will face the Indianapolis Colts, the NFL's most disappointing team.

1554
01:17:31,840 --> 01:17:33,720
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go and say it. I'm not gonna say

1555
01:17:33,760 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: one of the I'm just gonnay. They are the most

1556
01:17:36,120 --> 01:17:38,960
Speaker 1: disappointing team in the football and yet they are in

1557
01:17:39,080 --> 01:17:41,280
Speaker 1: first place in the ANFC South at three and four,

1558
01:17:41,560 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: and if they could just right the ship a little bit,

1559
01:17:44,120 --> 01:17:46,320
Speaker 1: they will win the division and get a home game

1560
01:17:46,360 --> 01:17:49,400
Speaker 1: in the playoffs. With Andrew Luck who knows what happens then?

1561
01:17:50,320 --> 01:17:54,200
Speaker 1: Uh so, Mark, I'll start with you on this one. Uh,

1562
01:17:54,560 --> 01:17:58,880
Speaker 1: Cam Newton uh. In the VP conversation, Andrew Luck not

1563
01:17:59,000 --> 01:18:02,280
Speaker 1: gonna be in the VP conversation who's the better quarterback

1564
01:18:02,520 --> 01:18:07,560
Speaker 1: on the field on Monday night right now? Easily. I

1565
01:18:07,600 --> 01:18:11,560
Speaker 1: mean it's if paidon Man is the most depressing situation

1566
01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,400
Speaker 1: at quarterback right now, as we just discussed, Andrew Luck

1567
01:18:14,520 --> 01:18:17,479
Speaker 1: is the most mysterious. I can't figure out what's going

1568
01:18:17,520 --> 01:18:20,080
Speaker 1: on with this guy. This feels like a back against

1569
01:18:20,120 --> 01:18:23,120
Speaker 1: the wall game for the Colts. And yeah, everybody's blowing

1570
01:18:23,160 --> 01:18:26,120
Speaker 1: smoke up the Panthers skirts because they're undefeated. And yet

1571
01:18:26,200 --> 01:18:28,639
Speaker 1: I still feel like the Panthers are too tough minded

1572
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:32,120
Speaker 1: of a team to kind of blow this one. They're

1573
01:18:32,160 --> 01:18:35,280
Speaker 1: well coached and their defense just has that backbone that

1574
01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:37,880
Speaker 1: won't allow them to kind of back down in this game. Well,

1575
01:18:37,880 --> 01:18:40,439
Speaker 1: you've been saying you would fork the Colts, and I

1576
01:18:40,520 --> 01:18:42,600
Speaker 1: think part of that as you don't just think the

1577
01:18:42,680 --> 01:18:46,160
Speaker 1: Colts are, you know, a bad team. I think is

1578
01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:47,920
Speaker 1: it fair to say you think they're one of the worst,

1579
01:18:48,360 --> 01:18:50,360
Speaker 1: you know, five to eight teams in the league. I

1580
01:18:50,439 --> 01:18:54,120
Speaker 1: think they're about and then you add in the element

1581
01:18:54,200 --> 01:18:57,880
Speaker 1: of turmoil. It's it's real. And that's the thing. If

1582
01:18:57,960 --> 01:19:03,240
Speaker 1: if I was ranking like ugly newspaper slash team media situations.

1583
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:05,720
Speaker 1: Right now, the Colts surprisingly are right near the top.

1584
01:19:05,800 --> 01:19:07,960
Speaker 1: And that's not a town you think of. It's just

1585
01:19:08,120 --> 01:19:11,000
Speaker 1: ugly in the papers every week, and the negativity around

1586
01:19:11,040 --> 01:19:14,760
Speaker 1: that team is a real thing. And with Luck, maybe

1587
01:19:14,880 --> 01:19:18,800
Speaker 1: maybe it's physical, but that doesn't really explain why he's

1588
01:19:18,840 --> 01:19:22,439
Speaker 1: so hesitant to throw it. He looks I said that

1589
01:19:22,600 --> 01:19:25,120
Speaker 1: he looks like he's having the rookie season he never had,

1590
01:19:25,400 --> 01:19:28,240
Speaker 1: where if something's taken away from him, he's panicking and

1591
01:19:28,280 --> 01:19:31,679
Speaker 1: he's he's pump baking and then he decides to throw it. Anyways,

1592
01:19:31,720 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 1: but it's too late. Everything is late, Everything is late

1593
01:19:34,439 --> 01:19:36,600
Speaker 1: but slow. What if part of this is that he

1594
01:19:36,680 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 1: doesn't trust his arm. Yeah, and he's not. I don't

1595
01:19:42,640 --> 01:19:45,080
Speaker 1: think he's trusted his arm. Going back to the season opener,

1596
01:19:45,479 --> 01:19:48,400
Speaker 1: he will uncork a couple throws that are okay uh

1597
01:19:48,760 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 1: during the game, like impressive throws. He threw about fifteen

1598
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,240
Speaker 1: times to Teo. I held him last week. You know what,

1599
01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:57,439
Speaker 1: the four passes. But what last year when they abandoned

1600
01:19:57,520 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: the run and they just decided we're just gonna go

1601
01:20:00,040 --> 01:20:02,320
Speaker 1: with Luck, We're gonna pass this ball up and down.

1602
01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:05,479
Speaker 1: That was an identity to some degree, there's no identity

1603
01:20:05,560 --> 01:20:08,439
Speaker 1: to their current offense. Well, Frank Gore's running has been

1604
01:20:08,479 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 1: one of their best features on offense. But now when

1605
01:20:11,120 --> 01:20:13,160
Speaker 1: you're down twenty to nothing to the Saints, it doesn't

1606
01:20:13,200 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: mean much anything. They have no sustaining element because they're

1607
01:20:15,640 --> 01:20:18,920
Speaker 1: always being penalized or Luck's making bad decision. He's on tilt.

1608
01:20:19,000 --> 01:20:20,760
Speaker 1: I mean that was his worst game was last year,

1609
01:20:20,920 --> 01:20:23,320
Speaker 1: last week, I think against the Saints. But he's just

1610
01:20:23,479 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: something in his mind is not familiar with that term.

1611
01:20:28,200 --> 01:20:31,680
Speaker 1: I remember it from like eighties arcades, like an arcade game,

1612
01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: get the old tilt like not available. The kids like

1613
01:20:36,240 --> 01:20:37,840
Speaker 1: go like this with the machine, or they're trying to

1614
01:20:37,880 --> 01:20:41,439
Speaker 1: get changed. Basically, when you know you're he's scrammed. If

1615
01:20:41,479 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: you were gambling, for instance, and things like I know

1616
01:20:45,880 --> 01:20:47,720
Speaker 1: a lot of words and the things they're starting to

1617
01:20:47,800 --> 01:20:51,360
Speaker 1: go horribly wrong for you. Uh, you're very unlucky, you know,

1618
01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:53,680
Speaker 1: if you're if you're there playing some cards, you're on

1619
01:20:53,960 --> 01:20:56,640
Speaker 1: you're on hill. I mean, I like it just unfamiliar.

1620
01:20:56,840 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: It probably went back to pinball. It started with I'm

1621
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:02,240
Speaker 1: slightly mystified that I didn't want to go. I don't

1622
01:21:02,280 --> 01:21:04,360
Speaker 1: know about that but well, it's like, I'm not familiar

1623
01:21:04,360 --> 01:21:06,760
Speaker 1: with pinball. Well, this is the difference in generation. He's

1624
01:21:06,760 --> 01:21:09,120
Speaker 1: like Mark and I grew up like at the tail

1625
01:21:09,240 --> 01:21:12,240
Speaker 1: end of the pinball. Pinball was huge in the seventies. Yeah,

1626
01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:15,880
Speaker 1: and arcades were becoming a big thing. Pinball sucks. It's

1627
01:21:15,880 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: a little played it before, not a fun game. I

1628
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,080
Speaker 1: don't know how people were, you know, losing money to those.

1629
01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:23,880
Speaker 1: It's a very nineteen seventies exciting you know that that

1630
01:21:24,000 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 1: was the technology of the time. Like, to me, that

1631
01:21:25,640 --> 01:21:28,400
Speaker 1: cracks me up. While people still play cards. I'm sure

1632
01:21:28,439 --> 01:21:30,200
Speaker 1: that was big in the year one thirty when there's

1633
01:21:30,240 --> 01:21:32,639
Speaker 1: nothing ever else to do. That's the test of time

1634
01:21:32,680 --> 01:21:36,479
Speaker 1: to agree more. Um, you know the renegade connor Or

1635
01:21:36,520 --> 01:21:38,280
Speaker 1: who rained it in a little bit this week because

1636
01:21:38,320 --> 01:21:41,240
Speaker 1: he falls down the standings he is, uh, but in

1637
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:43,120
Speaker 1: this case he did go with the Colts. He is

1638
01:21:43,160 --> 01:21:46,000
Speaker 1: the only one to pick. I mean, this is I'm

1639
01:21:46,080 --> 01:21:49,320
Speaker 1: excited about this game. These are the two quarterbacks of

1640
01:21:49,400 --> 01:21:52,000
Speaker 1: this generation really that are coming into the league since

1641
01:21:52,080 --> 01:21:55,360
Speaker 1: two sorry Russell Wilson. Then I'm the most excited about

1642
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:58,200
Speaker 1: and then and there they couldn't be meeting at different

1643
01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: points you know in their careers than now. Cam is

1644
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:02,760
Speaker 1: about at an all time high and Luck is about

1645
01:22:02,800 --> 01:22:06,040
Speaker 1: an all time low. Um. That is it for the

1646
01:22:06,280 --> 01:22:08,720
Speaker 1: third late Thursday early Friday edition on the Around the

1647
01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 1: NFL podcast. Congratulations by the way, Philip rivers birth of

1648
01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:18,080
Speaker 1: his baby daughter number eight. I believe, yes, healthy girl

1649
01:22:18,320 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 1: named Claire, nice, very nice. Something to aspire towards. Three

1650
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 1: children away from a football team of his own. But

1651
01:22:25,960 --> 01:22:29,559
Speaker 1: how about you six children away from match? I'd love

1652
01:22:29,640 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 1: to have that many kids? Really, yeah, I just I'd

1653
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:35,040
Speaker 1: need to not be in Los Angeles for that to happen,

1654
01:22:35,160 --> 01:22:37,680
Speaker 1: because it's outrageously you would love, you would love to have.

1655
01:22:37,960 --> 01:22:39,519
Speaker 1: You would not be able to handle that more, you

1656
01:22:39,560 --> 01:22:41,599
Speaker 1: would know, I'd be I, well, you're right. Many days

1657
01:22:41,640 --> 01:22:43,160
Speaker 1: that well not. But I would say one thing, you'd

1658
01:22:43,160 --> 01:22:45,000
Speaker 1: be about a hundred years old and have a ton

1659
01:22:45,080 --> 01:22:47,439
Speaker 1: of grand children around. Kind of kind of cool. Some

1660
01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:50,960
Speaker 1: advanced planning. Yeah, I need to rob a series of

1661
01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:53,240
Speaker 1: US banks to make that happen. We will be We

1662
01:22:53,320 --> 01:22:56,479
Speaker 1: will be back on Sunday night with our flagship show.

1663
01:22:56,640 --> 01:23:02,280
Speaker 1: The week eight recaps Eke rolling and rolling and rolling

1664
01:23:03,040 --> 01:23:05,800
Speaker 1: until that. This is Dan Hansen signing up for a

1665
01:23:05,960 --> 01:23:10,400
Speaker 1: quiet storm. The mailman the boss and said, nay behind

1666
01:23:10,479 --> 01:23:44,640
Speaker 1: the glass until Sunday m