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Speaker 1: your host, Jen Mueller.

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Speaker 4: I usually come into these podcast tapings with pages of

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Speaker 4: notes and all sorts of matchups and things we're gonna

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Speaker 4: talk about in trends and numbers, and today John Boyle,

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Speaker 4: we don't need a whole lot of numbers. This is

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Speaker 4: just gonna be fun, celebrating, reminiscing, telling stories about Pete

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Speaker 4: Carroll and everything that he has done in Seattle. What

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Speaker 4: a ride it has been for Pete and the entire

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just a legendary run, most successful coach

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Speaker 2: So were you to be around for every year of

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Speaker 4: He has taught me so much and it is not

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Speaker 3: But I'm gonna be honest, John, I.

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Speaker 4: Remember exactly where I was when I found out that

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, I've told this story to people before when they

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Speaker 3: What he did here with the Seahawks, and it is different.

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Speaker 4: He led with people first, and lots of people say

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Speaker 2: Over the years, I've gotten to have a lot of

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Speaker 4: And this was a pretty innovative. It was something that

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Speaker 2: We've heard Pete talk so many times after wins, after games,

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Speaker 4: And if you want to know what a secret to

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Speaker 4: He laid it out for all of us, just going

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Speaker 4: to give you this. This is hashtag leadership development. So

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Speaker 5: To me, the essence of being as good as you

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Speaker 2: of the year, like just for one or the other

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Speaker 2: to get the song over. Run is a unique thing

442
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Speaker 2: in sports period, and that speaks to the success they've had.

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Speaker 2: But just how smoothly it's gone between them, and I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying they've agreed on everything. They haven't, but they've

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Speaker 2: made it work and they've had a lot of success

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Speaker 2: doing it. When it was one of my favorite stories

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Speaker 2: I've written since I've been here was looking back at

448
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Speaker 2: it ten years they're in the playoffs. Is they were

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Speaker 2: going to Green Bay for a playoff game on what

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Speaker 2: was the tenth anniversary of them both getting hired in

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Speaker 2: a couple of day span, So it's fun to look

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Speaker 2: back at that whole thing. But yeah, it's I mean,

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Speaker 2: they've always referred to it as a marriage, and they've

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Speaker 2: told great stories about when they both got hired. Their

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Speaker 2: family stayed behind in either La or Green Bay, depend

456
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Speaker 2: on who we're talking about. But they work out here alone,

457
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Speaker 2: literally sleeping in the building a lot, just hanging out

458
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Speaker 2: all the time to talk football, but also just to

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Speaker 2: get to know each other. And it's been really cool

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Speaker 2: to see how that developed over the years.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I think some of the pictures, maybe you

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Speaker 4: guys have seen some of the videos or when Pete's

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Speaker 4: been miked up or something like that. They do share

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Speaker 4: a love of life. They have great senses of humor.

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Speaker 4: They are both very effusive in their praise and in

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Speaker 4: the emotion that they show for the people around them.

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Speaker 4: They are also both very disciplined in their messaging. They

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Speaker 4: are very principled. They share the same values, and it

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Speaker 4: truly has been amazing to watch that play out over

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Speaker 4: the last fourteen years.

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Speaker 3: You mentioned marriage.

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Speaker 4: I would also say some of that is like parenting, right,

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Speaker 4: even though I'm not a parent. Like the way that

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Speaker 4: they stayed on the same page with their messaging was

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Speaker 4: very important, right. It wasn't one parent going off doing

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Speaker 4: one thing and the other parents saying something else.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's that's big.

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Speaker 2: There's conversations between my wife and I have like I

479
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Speaker 2: already told her, no, you can't let her do this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, that never happened between Pete and John in

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Speaker 4: the public eye. You can call that marriage or you

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Speaker 4: can call that relationship of marriage, and it is a

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Speaker 4: great comparison, but nothing compares to the feeling Pete has

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Speaker 4: for his wife, Glenna.

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Speaker 1: This is worth crying for.

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Speaker 5: Glen. Nobody would ever understand how significant she've been through

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Speaker 5: all of the stuff that we've been through and how

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Speaker 5: important she is. She's just been the angel in my

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Speaker 5: life and that everything. My boys, Brenna, you guys would

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Speaker 5: have no idea how valuable they've been to me, because

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Speaker 5: they were the ones that would give me all the

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Speaker 5: crap about what I was doing wrong, on what I

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Speaker 5: was screwing up. They were harsh and and their critiques

494
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Speaker 5: were rash and the whole thing. It was perfect because

495
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Speaker 5: I needed that loyalty and they were the epitome of

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Speaker 5: it for me, and this forever grateful. They know, they know,

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Speaker 5: but I don't mind saying it to you.

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Speaker 2: Jen just reached in her back a tissue while that

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Speaker 2: sound clip was the one that I lost it. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean that was getting to all of us in

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Speaker 2: the press conference yesterday live and even here in it back.

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Speaker 1: It's yeah, and it's true.

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Speaker 2: I mean that is a very thankless job sometimes being

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Speaker 2: the wife of a head coach in the sport, because

505
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Speaker 2: the demands are so harsh. So it was cool to

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Speaker 2: see Pete on her and you know, having his kids,

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Speaker 2: one of whom is still on or was on his

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Speaker 2: coaching staff. The other ones now at Arizona, but was

509
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Speaker 2: Brennan was with him for a long time here, So

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Speaker 2: family is it's a very hard job on family, but

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll's always made a time for family. We see

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Speaker 2: his grand kids out here.

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Speaker 1: Playing all that. So it's that moment in the press

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Speaker 1: conference I think got to a lot of us.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and I will point out that Brennan was actually

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Speaker 4: on the Seahawks sidelines for that season finale in Arizona,

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Speaker 4: so I'm sure that that was special.

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Speaker 3: I had caught up with Glenna.

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Speaker 4: I regularly run into her in the hallways after games,

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Speaker 4: and and she had shared with me at one point

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Speaker 4: that Pete we had those back to back wins right

522
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Speaker 4: in the final minute of the game.

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Speaker 3: That was just heart stopping, right.

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Speaker 4: And Pete called Glenna after the Tennessee game and apologized

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Speaker 4: to her that she had to be on the edge

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Speaker 4: of her sea for a second to suck it up.

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Speaker 4: She goes, that has never happened before, but that time,

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Speaker 4: that time, he felt real bad about it.

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Speaker 1: Because Christmas, I don't know.

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Speaker 3: They are they are an awesome couple.

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Speaker 4: Glenna will likely get to spend a lot more time

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Speaker 4: with Pete.

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Speaker 3: A little bit more time with Pete, I would think,

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Speaker 3: a lot more.

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Speaker 4: I only hedge that just a little bit because I

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Speaker 4: don't know what's next for Pete. But I do know

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Speaker 4: he still has just as much energy today as he

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Speaker 4: did when I saw him the first time fourteen years ago.

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Speaker 5: That's it for now, and I'm freaking jacked. I'm fired up,

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Speaker 5: I'm not tired, I'm not worn down. You guys tried

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Speaker 5: your best. You didn't wear me out. I'm you know,

542
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Speaker 5: it's the end of the season. I'm supposed to be,

543
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Speaker 5: you know, go landa cot somewhere. I ain't feeling like that.

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Speaker 5: You know, there's what's coming.

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I got no idea, and I really don't care right now,

547
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Speaker 5: but I do. I'm excited about it because there's a

548
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Speaker 5: lot to learn, there's a lot to study, there's some

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Speaker 5: great discoveries that are going to come our way. And

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Speaker 5: as my all time mentor Bud Grant said, not in

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Speaker 5: so many words, there's there's rivers to wade, there's ways

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Speaker 5: to catch, and there's mountains to hike, and it wasn't

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Speaker 5: exactly how Bud said it, but I get it and

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Speaker 5: some cool stuff that we're going to do here, and

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Speaker 5: I look forward to all that.

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Speaker 2: I love that Pete said he's freaking jacked and fired up,

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Speaker 2: which I'm almost positively used that exact same phrase fourteen

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Speaker 2: years ago in his introductory press conference and has never

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Speaker 2: cooled down from that kind of state of hype. And

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Speaker 2: it's just such a cool part about Pete Carroll.

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Speaker 1: I do worry.

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Speaker 2: I don't think he's going to go into full on

563
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Speaker 2: like relaxed retirement, and if he does, I do worry

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Speaker 2: for Glenna because I just don't know if someone that

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Speaker 2: energetic can just be home and.

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Speaker 3: Retired, right I don't think so.

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Speaker 1: It seems like it might drive her crazy. Yes might.

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Speaker 1: For her sake, I hope he stays a little busy.

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Speaker 4: Right well, he is expected to have a role with

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Speaker 4: the teams. We will find out more as they kind

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Speaker 4: of firm up those plans. But for right now, as

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Speaker 4: Pete said, well that's it for now, we don't know

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Speaker 4: what happens next. But here's what I promise when we

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Speaker 4: figure out next steps, when we know what happens.

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Speaker 3: Next, we'll be back with you.

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