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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome to Breaking Point. You're watching Real America's

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Speaker 1: Voice News. I have an action packed show for you today,

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Speaker 1: and man, has it been a whirlwind. I got back

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Speaker 1: from Washington, DC last week. Real America's Voice News sent

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Speaker 1: me down there to fill in for Brian Glenn who

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Speaker 1: was out for a couple of days. And I was

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Speaker 1: down there at the White House when the Iran bombing

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Speaker 1: took place and got to be on the South lawn

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Speaker 1: watching Trump's departure on Marine one for Bedminster and then.

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Speaker 2: His return to the next day.

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Speaker 1: And obviously the decision was already made when he got

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Speaker 1: off the chopper because that mission started seventeen hours before,

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Speaker 1: but we didn't know.

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Speaker 2: What was up.

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Speaker 1: Trump looked resolute, determined, did not stop and take any

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Speaker 1: questions like he did before at Bedminster or in Jersey

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Speaker 1: at the airport on his way to Bedminster. And it

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Speaker 1: was really just a fascinating situation unfolding at the White House.

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Speaker 2: We knew something was up, and then an hour later

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Speaker 2: we got word there was a bombing.

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Speaker 1: But then there was a tight lid on the press

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Speaker 1: at six forty pm and we broadcast well into the night,

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Speaker 1: I think almost to about midnight.

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Speaker 2: But you know, Trump making a speech from.

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Speaker 1: The East Room in the White House, historic and historic event,

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Speaker 1: and you know, not only peace through strength, but taking

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Speaker 1: decisive and bold action to end an existential threat not

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Speaker 1: just to Israel but the surrounding countries around Israel and

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Speaker 1: potentially the United States, because Iran's goal was to take

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Speaker 1: you know, ballistic missiles and throw their you know, nuclear

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Speaker 1: weaponized missiles at other countries, or even if they just

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Speaker 1: wanted it as a deterrent, they've been bad actors.

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Speaker 2: And if you take all.

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Speaker 1: The terrorists attack going back to like Jim Buckley, the

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Speaker 1: CIA station chief and I think in Lebanon and Colonel

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Speaker 1: eighties on the TWA flight and blowing up our embassy twice,

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Speaker 1: killing two hundred.

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Speaker 2: And forty one Marines who are in Lebanon.

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Speaker 1: And you know the attack on the Senior Center in Argentina,

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Speaker 1: I think they killed about eighty five seniors.

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Speaker 2: An attack on Jews Cobar Towers.

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Speaker 1: Killing nineteen of a serviceman, but a year before did

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Speaker 1: it another attack prior that killed five or six American

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Speaker 2: These guys are bad actors. You know.

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Speaker 1: I am concerned about all the intertwined things involved over

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Speaker 1: there in the stability of you know, Iran right now,

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Speaker 1: and there's a lot of you know, there's Salafes, there's

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Speaker 1: the Suni versus the Shia element. You've got Turkey chomping

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Speaker 1: You know, they benefited from the HTS in Syria because

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Speaker 1: they're Salafes, and Erdawan is exploiting that and he benefited

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Speaker 1: from that. So will there be expanded influence in the region,

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Speaker 1: And where does it leave the safety of the Gulf States?

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Speaker 2: Right You've got the uae an.

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Speaker 1: Incredible economy, like one hundred years of or one hundred

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Speaker 1: billion barrels in reserve of oil over there, but they

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Speaker 1: also buy like seven or eight billion dollars in goods

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Speaker 2: And other goods.

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Speaker 1: And the other nations over there and Cotter where you

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Speaker 2: They've got their own.

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Speaker 1: Intricate battles between al Qaeda, which is basically dedicated to

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Speaker 1: the Quran. You know, there's a battle going on inside

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Speaker 2: And then you've got the Dao Bande.

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Speaker 1: You know, al Qaeda was means the base, but they

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Speaker 1: powder keg, and this is something to take lightly. But

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Speaker 1: we can't be MUSHes and we can't be delivering palettes

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Speaker 1: And I'm not an advocate of going to war unless

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Speaker 1: make sure if there are any attacks on Alisada Air Base,

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Speaker 1: and you know, some of these preemptive strikes, like these

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Speaker 1: incredible attacks in Somalia. We had sixteen f eighteen super Horn.

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Speaker 1: It's taken off of the deck of the USS Harry

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Speaker 1: Somalia and taking out Al Shabab and Isis targets, the

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Speaker 1: there's been a string of things that Trump has done

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Speaker 1: getting credit for that may prevent these When people say

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Speaker 1: Solomon's brutal IEDs that may have led to the deaths

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Speaker 1: and iraqed these liquid metal forming copper explosive devices that

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Speaker 1: melt at like four thousand degrees. The copper, you know,

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Speaker 1: melts and creates a spear. And I'll never forget my

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Speaker 1: time at Chris Levy. I used to run a veterans

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Speaker 1: Being out hundreds of miles from the main post, they

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Speaker 1: they were getting maimed and under attack and couldn't trust people.

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Speaker 1: So it's really important that we don't go to war

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Speaker 1: unless we really have to. And I look at as

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Speaker 1: Afghanistan as a success in the sense that we prevented

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Speaker 1: many terrorist attacks around the world. I have family and

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Speaker 1: the Joint Terrors and test force that was taking off

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Speaker 1: the battlefield the most wanted by the FBI after nine

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Speaker 2: And we did do a lot of good things and

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Speaker 2: we didn't lose like soldiers.

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Speaker 1: For the last seventeen or nineteen months of the Trump presidency,

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Speaker 2: Over and just throws everything in the garbage.

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Speaker 1: So listen, I can go on forever about this stuff,

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Speaker 1: but Trump's in the driver's seat. Get in respect from NATO.

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Speaker 1: And these B two missions were so incredible, seven B

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Speaker 1: There were Operation Midnight Hammer was the largest strike package.

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Speaker 1: They dropped four one hundred and twenty thousand pounds of GBUS,

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Speaker 2: It was like a fifteen thousand mile bombing run en

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Speaker 2: You know, the largest strikes.

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Speaker 1: Before that, or the longest distance covered by bomber strikes,

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Speaker 1: First Gulf War there was a very long mission there.

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Speaker 1: But nineteen eighty two British Vulcan bombers went from the

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Speaker 1: the Royal Air Force. But the number of things happening

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Speaker 1: I just think that we have to watch things really closely,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want things to escalate in Ukraine. We'll

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Speaker 2: So I hope that doesn't want to double.

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Speaker 1: Uh, So we're going to follow all this closely. But

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Speaker 1: All right, So I wanted to talk about your You

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Speaker 1: That George McGovern wrote called run your business for your

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Speaker 4: You know, Biden budgeted billions of dollars for the Palestinians after.

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Speaker 2: Thank you very much, and social media. Ten seconds, social media.

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Speaker 3: You know, I'm a twentieth century guy. I apologize. I

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Speaker 1: I still have an Olive Eddy typewriter in my bedroom.

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Speaker 1: So all right, thank you Jurie Kaufman for joining us,

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Speaker 1: and we'll have you back soon.

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Speaker 3: Thank you so much. It's great to be here.

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Speaker 1: Welcome you too. All right, everybody, don't go anywhere. We

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Speaker 1: got great stuff ahead. Well, you got to keep their

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Speaker 1: head on a swivel to keep up with everything that

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Speaker 1: is going on. Trump making bold moves, showing leadership, that's

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Speaker 1: for sure.

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Speaker 1: While the media was trying to say, oh, you know

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Speaker 2: You know all this what are you doing? Everybody? You know?

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Speaker 2: Meanwhile they're coughing up.

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Speaker 1: They're fast share except for Spain, but they'll talk to

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Speaker 1: them over a bolo gaspacho.

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Speaker 2: I'm sure.

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Speaker 1: And these countries have to contribute and start defending themselves

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Speaker 1: and be ready for these things.

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Speaker 2: In the United States could.

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Speaker 1: Save like three hundred and thirty five billion dollars a

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Speaker 1: year or so if we do that. I have our

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Speaker 1: next guest with US Major Fred Galvin. He's the author

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Speaker 1: of a Few Bad Men, the true story of the

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Speaker 1: US Marines ambushed in Afghanistan and betrayed in America.

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Speaker 2: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Thank you very much for having me, David.

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Speaker 2: I really appreciate you joining us.

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Speaker 1: I know that you have your own experiences to share

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Speaker 1: with the audience, and thank you so much for your

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Speaker 1: service your US Marine Corps retired. Correct, that's correct, And

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Speaker 1: you know Trump under a lot of pressure. It's got

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Speaker 1: to be extraordinary, but he plans on limiting sending classified

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Speaker 1: information to Congress after this intel assessment on Iran damage

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Speaker 1: was leaked? Is this unprecedented? And tell us about your

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Speaker 1: book and how it compares to your experiences.

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Speaker 6: Absolutely, well, this is exactly where the director, the Director

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Speaker 6: of National Intelligence needs to provide who has a requirement

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Speaker 6: to know this information. So just because someone has a

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Speaker 6: top secret clearance as I did in the Marines and

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Speaker 6: as an intelligence official afterwards after retiring from the Marine Corps,

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Speaker 6: you may have a top secret security clearance, you may

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Speaker 6: have access to special access programs, but if you do

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Speaker 6: not have the need to know specific programs, you don't

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Speaker 6: have the right to know that. And as you mentioned,

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Speaker 6: there was one gentleman who was in the Special Operations

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Speaker 6: Task Force that I was a commander of. He had

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Speaker 6: He didn't spill the information, he didn't share the information

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Speaker 6: or leak it, but he had classified information on a

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Speaker 6: government unclassified computer. Now that computer was not plugged in

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Speaker 6: any type of Internet source where it was shared. But

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Speaker 6: he created briefs and he was The bottom line is

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Speaker 6: he built briefs on a classified computer for his convenience

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Speaker 6: because it was faster for them to do that on

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Speaker 6: an unclassified computer and put a thumb drive in and

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Speaker 6: put it into a and it was just big no, no,

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Speaker 6: big no no. So everyone who signs who has a

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Speaker 6: classified clearance, whether it's secret or top secret or beyond that.

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Speaker 6: With polygraph and special access programs. You signed documents that

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Speaker 6: say it's critical to grave if you ever divulge any

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Speaker 6: of this information, which is different than mishandling it, you

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Speaker 6: can you know, oops, I oh, I forgot, you know,

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Speaker 6: and not be wittingly. You know, those are still punishable.

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Speaker 6: And in this gentleman case, in the task force that

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Speaker 6: I commanded, he was separated from the United States Marine

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Speaker 6: Corps and he was an officer. So this, this does happen,

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Speaker 6: but it seems strange that people who are sharing information

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Speaker 6: are spilling it intentionally in the intelligence community and with

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Speaker 6: members of Congress, they're not held account. This is what

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Speaker 6: we need to correct.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and in such a politically charged environment, in your situation,

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Speaker 1: you commanded a special operations task force in combat, right,

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Speaker 1: and you were ambushed by the Tally ban and you

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Speaker 1: would drag through the mud under law fair and other

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Speaker 1: types of things.

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Speaker 2: How does that relate to classified information?

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Speaker 3: Well, very similar. And I'm going to add a different.

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Speaker 6: Subject, but what the Secretary of Defense and the President

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Speaker 6: were discussing last night, where you have highly trained, skilled warriors,

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Speaker 6: in our case special operators fighting on the ground against

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Speaker 6: an enemy, and in this case, what occurred this last

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Speaker 6: week or weekend. These were the most highly trained aviators

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Speaker 6: doing a you know, a day and a half long

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Speaker 6: mission in the air, precise coordinators dropping precision guiding munitions

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Speaker 6: on target. And now you have people downplaying American citizens.

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Speaker 6: You have people doing that on social media, you have

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Speaker 6: members of Congress, you have members of media, and then

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Speaker 6: some somebody says they're in the intelligence community and they're

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Speaker 6: spilling information that the public doesn't have a right to

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Speaker 6: know that. So just like this administration, they have a

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Speaker 6: right to go out and track down who had access

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Speaker 6: to that information, where that was shared, put subpoenas on

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Speaker 6: people who in the media who said that, Okay, this

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Speaker 6: person gave this to me, you cannot. I mean that

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Speaker 6: is national security information that is not sharable with people

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Speaker 6: without that clearance, and definitely not in the media. But

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Speaker 6: this did, this type of lawfare did happen to us.

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Speaker 6: We were going after the n Emmy. We were shot at,

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Speaker 6: blown up, shot out on multiple sides, sniper fire, trapped

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Speaker 6: in this kill zone. We killed the enemy at nine

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Speaker 6: o'clock in the morning, point blank, and then this started,

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Speaker 6: you know, within twenty minutes. This was out on the

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Speaker 6: BBC first and then the New York Times Washington Post

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Speaker 6: for twelve years we got assassinated.

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Speaker 3: Even after we went.

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Speaker 6: Through the longest courtroom trial where we were exonerated. There

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Speaker 6: are some people who wanted to lay the blame on,

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Speaker 6: particularly myself and the unit that I commanded, so they

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Speaker 6: would do these dry buys in the media. So even

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Speaker 6: I served for seven more years and even after the

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Speaker 6: day I retired, they hit me that day and several

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Speaker 6: other times that year, and it continued on and it's

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Speaker 6: very damaging, like the President's experiencing with this professional destruction.

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Speaker 1: But you turned it the other way and you were

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Speaker 1: saying that you know, because you're targeted like Trump, you

565
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Speaker 1: never backed down. Tell us about that refusal to fail

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Speaker 1: and fighting back.

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Speaker 6: Yes, So some people who have voted for people that

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Speaker 6: they respect, and in my case, these are military officers,

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Speaker 6: very senior general officers who in America we have a

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Speaker 6: lot of patriotism, but it's just like we have in

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Speaker 6: the military as trust but verify if you do something

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Speaker 6: where you're dragging your own members of the Marine Corps,

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Speaker 6: the frontline foot soldiers, and you're destroying them, you need

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Speaker 6: to be held accountable.

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Speaker 3: That that needs to be exposed.

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Speaker 6: So that's that's what took me eleven years to get

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Speaker 6: this information declassified, which what I just described to you, David,

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Speaker 6: that's a garden variety gun battle. This is not Jason

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Speaker 6: Bourne's knock list or the locations of the submarines at sea.

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Speaker 6: This is you know, day one tactics of Taliban attacking marines.

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Speaker 6: So there was no need to have this procedure that

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Speaker 6: they use in the courtroom where for three and a

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Speaker 6: half weeks longest courtroom trial Marine Corps history, they would

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Speaker 6: move the media out of the court. Media was allowed

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Speaker 6: in there, but every time there was a defense witness

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Speaker 6: with exculptory information which they knew, the media would get

587
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Speaker 6: escorted out. So you got one side of the media.

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Speaker 6: So we were exonered, but the label in the press.

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Speaker 6: That continued for twelve years until January two, twenty nineteen,

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Speaker 6: the day after General Maddis was fired by President Trump

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Speaker 6: as his secretary of Defense. Well six months actually seven

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Speaker 6: months prior to that. In May twenty eighteen, a board

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Speaker 6: convened in the Pentagon and they fully exonerated us. But

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Speaker 6: they sat on their hands because not only was General

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Speaker 6: Madison Secretary of Defense in twenty eighteen. But he was

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Speaker 6: a convening authority in our case in two thousand and seven,

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Speaker 6: so he was the puppeteer. He was the geppetto pulling

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Speaker 6: all this strings, and he did not want.

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Speaker 3: But we were exonerated.

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Speaker 6: Thank god for this female civilian general counsel with the

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Speaker 6: Department of the Navy. She bottom lined this twelve page

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Speaker 6: report that named names, and that was what fully exonerate

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Speaker 6: is under Donald Trump's watch.

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Speaker 1: In about thirty seconds, tell our viewers where they can

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Speaker 1: find a few bad men. The true story of US

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Speaker 1: Marines ambush in Afghanistan.

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Speaker 2: And betrayed in America. A story of real life.

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Speaker 1: Portrayal, corruption and redemption.

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Speaker 2: Major Fred Galvin.

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Speaker 6: Yes, David, this has been sold out many times nationwide,

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Speaker 6: so you can get her on Amazon.

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Speaker 7: And remember this is a Patriot mission and we're so

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Speaker 7: grateful that we get to build America.

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Speaker 1: All right, Maria Lynn, I'd love to see you and

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Speaker 1: USA dot com and get it today.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Hey, everybody, Welcome back to Breaking Point, Unreal America's Voice News.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you this last couple of weeks has been

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Speaker 1: some journey between all the things covering the Ice protest,

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Speaker 1: the New York City Bernie Carrick's funeral, the two hundred

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Speaker 1: and fiftieth Army Parade, filling in for Brian Glenn as

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Speaker 1: a White House correspondent while the bombing was going on

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Speaker 1: with Iran. Really just an incredible time to live.

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Speaker 2: And I had some hope for Washington, DC when I

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Speaker 2: was there.

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Speaker 1: I have a little bit of hope for New York

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Speaker 1: City until the results of the primaries. And here to

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Speaker 1: discuss that for the mayoral race is author Donald Wilkie.

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Speaker 1: He's the author of Freedom Revealed, a simple, elegant system.

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Speaker 5: Welcome to the show, Thanks for having me pleasure to

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Speaker 5: be here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's great to have you.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I could see the campaign slogan now

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Speaker 1: don't mess with the zo ran right in New York City, Mom,

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Speaker 1: Donnie basically a radical Marxist, the watermelon where Islam meets

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Speaker 1: the Marxist culture. Green on the outside for Islam, red

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Speaker 1: in the middle for socialism, Marxism and communism.

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Speaker 8: What do you say, well, socialism doesn't work. But the

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Speaker 8: problem is most people never ask the question why doesn't

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Speaker 8: it work? And that's what I answer in my book.

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Speaker 8: And the real simple answer, if you will allow me, sure,

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Speaker 8: is that everybody thinks socialism is an economic system, but

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Speaker 8: in reality, it's a government system. And what it is

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Speaker 8: is the government distorting the marketplace.

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Speaker 5: And the reason the marketplace and.

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Speaker 8: Government are different is because government is singular, so there's

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Speaker 8: no competition. The marketplace has a lot of competition. One's

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Speaker 8: a competitive system, one's a non competitive system, and that

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Speaker 8: makes all the difference.

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Speaker 1: Right, So we have this incredible mayor's race going on.

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Speaker 1: I think part of the reason why I'm Donnie won

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Speaker 1: the primary was a protest vote against Cuomo in a way.

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Speaker 1: And you know, I would take Curtis over anybody. I

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Speaker 1: would even take Adams over anybody besides Curtis, because he's

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Speaker 1: kind of getting a message.

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Speaker 2: He got away with murder, maybe with.

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Speaker 1: You know, his corrupt police commissioner under him, the Turkish deal.

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Speaker 1: Trump not pursuing you know, the indictments and all that

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Speaker 1: other stuff. So but the new police commission is doing

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Speaker 1: a better job in New York City.

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Speaker 2: Jessica tish Now.

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Speaker 1: Shootings and murders down, Rape still let twenty two percent,

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Speaker 1: felony assaults still at twenty five your highs. The Blasio

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Speaker 1: numbers misdemeanor assaults up thirty something thousand. New York has

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Speaker 1: assaulted in the streets. But the business climate in New

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Speaker 1: York City is awful. There's no buzz anymore. Curtis took

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Speaker 1: a picture last year of Third Avenue at ten in

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Speaker 1: the morning. There's no traffic, you know, there's not really

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Speaker 1: a lot going on. Congestion pricings killed it the economy.

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Speaker 1: COVID forty percent of the office building is still empty,

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Speaker 1: so or only forty percent of the building still occupied

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Speaker 1: for office spase since COVID tell us what is the

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Speaker 1: damage that having a socialist as a mayor is going

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Speaker 1: to do to New York If that happens.

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Speaker 5: Well, he's just going to distort the marketplace further.

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Speaker 8: The only way you eliminate waste is through competition, and

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Speaker 8: in socialism there is no competition. The way I always

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Speaker 8: win the socialist argument as I ask a socialist how

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Speaker 8: do you eliminate waste? And they never have an answer.

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Speaker 8: So you have a socialist system. You let the government

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Speaker 8: run grocery stores he's talking about, and you're just going.

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Speaker 5: To compound it.

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Speaker 8: Why did they have to wait in the Soviet Union

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Speaker 8: for hours at a time to get a chunk of meat,

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Speaker 8: hair sticking out of it?

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Speaker 2: You know, I saw the bread lines. I saw the

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Speaker 2: breadlines in Moscow in eighty six. I saw them.

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Speaker 5: Well, that's how it works. I mean you have waste.

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Speaker 8: Now, what happens in the private sector when you have competition, Hey,

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Speaker 8: people won't go there, and what happens to your company?

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Speaker 8: You go out of business. Well, what happens to government

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Speaker 8: if nothing works?

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Speaker 4: Right?

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Speaker 5: They stay there and they can they double down on

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Speaker 5: what they're doing. So that's the whole problem.

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Speaker 1: So, Ma'mdonnie's economic platform has some crazy things and it

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Speaker 1: can you go over some of his things like rent

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Speaker 1: stabilization and getting rid of like privately owned convenience stores.

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Speaker 2: What's this guy doing?

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Speaker 8: Well, I just heard a little bit about his marketplace,

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Speaker 8: I mean grocery store proposition. And the buildings aren't going

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Speaker 8: to pay rent, they're not going to pay taxes, So

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Speaker 8: that's going to cut your costs and et cetera, et cetera,

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Speaker 8: et cetera. We're not going to make a profit, so

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Speaker 8: that's going to cut your costs. What he never says,

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Speaker 8: what they never talk about, is the waste that government

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Speaker 8: has to create. A non competitive system has to create waste.

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Speaker 8: You can't eliminate it, and that's always way worse than

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Speaker 8: any savings you might talk about. And again, anytime you

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Speaker 8: look at a socialist system, they're always dirt poor and

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Speaker 8: nobody understands why. But it's just simply a lack of competition.

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Speaker 8: They're not a marketplace system, they're a government system.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: You know, New York City might be one of the

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Speaker 1: safest large cities in the country per capita, but I

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Speaker 1: will tell you that it's probably the filthiest and the rodents,

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Speaker 1: the leaks, the mold right, the heating breakdowns. These landlords,

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Speaker 1: you know, they can't survive if the government wants to

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Speaker 1: take their property or give them, you know, peanuts in

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Speaker 1: New York City's used, the free market, high rents, Fifth Avenue, Downtown,

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Speaker 1: all that stuff. We're looking at the middle class being

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Speaker 1: wiped out.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 8: Now I should tell you that I'm from Detroit, and

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Speaker 8: Detroit went broke, as you know, and.

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Speaker 5: It saw everything you're talking about. Now. A lot sooner

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Speaker 5: than New York has.

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Speaker 8: And that's exactly what happened to Detroit, the entire industrial base.

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Speaker 8: Detroit was the greatest industrial city in the country in

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Speaker 8: the fifties sixties, and by nineteen eighty, the entire industrial

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Speaker 8: base had left it. There was nothing left. There is

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Speaker 8: no tax revenue for the government. And today in Detroit,

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Speaker 8: believe it or not, there's vast open areas, acres and

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Speaker 8: acres open field where they've just torn everything down. Now,

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Speaker 8: we were never as big New York, and that's a difference,

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Speaker 8: but there was no law. Yeah, he reigned in Detroit,

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Speaker 8: and it looks like it's coming to New York.

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Speaker 1: I worked alongside the Juliani administration representing private developers, and

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Speaker 1: I am a first hand witness and a participant to

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Speaker 1: Giuliani New York City Housing Partnership taking the Jack Kemp

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Speaker 1: enterprise zones, giving people maybe a grant through like the

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Speaker 1: State Sunny May Lending program, which was a great program

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Speaker 1: first time buyers. It would take some money off the

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Speaker 1: sale price of a new home. They would give the

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Speaker 1: land to the builders if it was city owned or

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Speaker 1: tax condemned or in rem lots, and they were able

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Speaker 1: to build these three story town homes. You know that

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Speaker 1: would go for not a lot of money, But you

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Speaker 1: gave title to people. They cleaned up the streets, they

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Speaker 1: kicked out the drug dealers. I watched the firsthand at

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Speaker 1: Bushwick and the Bronx. That's why we had Williamsburg today

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Speaker 1: and the Park's Slope revival and all that other stuff.

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Speaker 1: But his anchor revitalization program, bringing back and attracting retail

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Speaker 1: businesses is guaranteeing with federal seed money, guarantees for Bilders

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Speaker 1: to take risks in bad areas Brooklyn Avenue, Brooklyn, Coney Island,

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Speaker 1: Mermaid Avenue, Harlem, one twenty fifth Street, one sixteenth in Lenox.

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Speaker 1: Who is going to do that for New York City?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: But you made a great point. Unless a person has

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Speaker 5: skin in the game, what do they care?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, they.

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Speaker 5: Have to have an investment.

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Speaker 8: And if they don't have an investment, they got nothing

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Speaker 8: to lose. So that is another problem with socialism. You

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Speaker 8: don't have people with an investment, right, And Giuliani did

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Speaker 8: a terrific job in New York, almost.

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Speaker 5: A miracle job, but it was predictable.

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Speaker 8: You have to let the marketplace work and prosperity is

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Speaker 8: created when waste is eliminated.

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Speaker 5: From the marketplace.

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Speaker 1: It's quite simple, right, So, Okay, we have this really

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Speaker 1: competitive mayoral race, and if there's a four or five

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Speaker 1: waist split, Curtis I only got twenty eight percent last

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Speaker 1: general election.

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Speaker 2: He only needs thirty to.

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Speaker 1: Thirty five percent to win in a plurality like John

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Speaker 1: Lindsay did in nineteen sixty nine.

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Speaker 2: He won in a three way race.

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Speaker 1: If Cuomo jumps back in and runs and mem Donnie

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Speaker 1: is the Democratic candidate, and then you have working families running,

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Speaker 1: this could be and then you might have Adam staying

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Speaker 1: in as independent, could be a path for Curtis Lee

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Speaker 1: or what do you say?

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Speaker 8: It'd be very nice. I mean, I like Curtis. I

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Speaker 8: like the things he's done. What I don't know is

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Speaker 8: the money behind Mondanmi. He's obviously well finded. Somebody is

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Speaker 8: propping him up. I don't know how deep the pockets are,

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Speaker 8: And that's the question I think we should know.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I guess it's also a question of where

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Speaker 1: will Bloomberg's money go. You know, he gave it to Cuomo,

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Speaker 1: and Cuomo could stay in.

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Speaker 2: He's not out. You know, but I don't know. The

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Speaker 2: whole thing's kind of a disaster. Here. Tell us about

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Speaker 2: your book.

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Speaker 8: Well, well, it's the first time freedom has been looked

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Speaker 8: at as a mechanical system as opposed to a philosophy.

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Speaker 8: And I'll get to the heart of it. I've talked

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Speaker 8: about it basically a little bit already. But I looked

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Speaker 8: at nature and I asked myself, how does nature work?

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Speaker 8: And one of the statements all environmentalists have is there's

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Speaker 8: no waste in nature. Well, the question is what drives

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Speaker 8: waste out of nature? And the obvious answer is competition.

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Speaker 8: Competition eliminates waste. So the market, the natural world is

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Speaker 8: extremely competitive. And the other part of the foundation of

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Speaker 8: nature is everything in nature moves to ease. That's why

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Speaker 8: we have signs at national parks that say do not

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Speaker 8: feed the animals. So you take three simple concepts and

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Speaker 8: apply them to everything, and they explain everything, how prosperity

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Speaker 8: is created, why welfare never works, why socialism never works.

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Speaker 8: And it's quite astounding when you take just these three

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Speaker 8: simple concepts, almost like the three basic colors, and put

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Speaker 8: them together in different ways and you can predict outcomes.

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Speaker 1: Sure, tell our viewers Where can they get your book?

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Speaker 1: And where can they follow you?

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Speaker 5: Sub Stack you can follow me there.

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Speaker 8: I've got videos on YouTube too, Freedom revealed dot net

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Speaker 8: and of course Amazon, the big giant in the in

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Speaker 8: the house.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, everybody.

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Speaker 1: Donald Wilkie, author of Freedom revealed the Simple Elegant System,

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Speaker 1: Thank you so much for joining us on everybody. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for watching Breaking Point on Real America's Voice News.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure more excitement coming this week. Well, we'll see

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Speaker 1: you next time.

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Speaker 2: Don't go anywhere