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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Annie and Samantha and welcome to stepone.

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Speaker 1: Never told you protection of iHeartRadio, and welcome to another

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Speaker 1: feminist around the world. And yea, it is still a

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Speaker 1: women's history month. I believe. No, it's gone. Oh my god,

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Speaker 1: what is April? Now? I forgot what this is? Sorry?

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Speaker 1: What is April? Is April? And thing special April? April's

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Speaker 1: all kinds of things. Every month is, Every month can

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Speaker 1: be women's history month. For us, it is and it

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Speaker 1: will always be. I guess. Oh man, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: keep going. Yeah, definitely. We're just gonna say for uh,

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Speaker 1: sminty's women's history all the time, anytime, or even just

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Speaker 1: the non binary people, intersectional feminist history year, life, lifetime.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't even do this. This is

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Speaker 1: how we all I'm doing today. But if you haven't noticed,

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Speaker 1: we are going through a series where we are talking

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Speaker 1: because we think it is really important that we continue

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Speaker 1: to highlight those who are making history in a community

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Speaker 1: that is trying to be decimated by what it seems

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Speaker 1: like our government and many governments around the world, and

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Speaker 1: for us that does not sit well well. So therefore

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Speaker 1: we're going to celebrate those who are actively out there

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Speaker 1: and working to fight against this type of oppression which

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Speaker 1: does affect all of us. So today we are talking

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Speaker 1: about UK transactivist Nim Ralph. Ralph has been an intersectional

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Speaker 1: activist who has been behind the scenes creating platforms and

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Speaker 1: curriculums to teach others how to become activists as well.

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Speaker 1: Ralph is quote and this is from their site, a

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Speaker 1: community organizer and reliance trainer and a writer with fifteen

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Speaker 1: and justice work. Yeah, and though their work has branched

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Speaker 1: out since they started, Ralph started as a climate movement

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Speaker 1: activist and in an interview for the Pride series that

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Speaker 1: in my life. They said, could I got into the

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Speaker 1: the movement to address its issues with racism, ableism, classism, colonialism,

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Speaker 1: there are real parallels in the way that humans extract

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Speaker 1: bodies was intrinsically bound up in that fight, and their

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Speaker 1: focus has continued in their activism, looking to teach, to lead,

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Speaker 1: for years on ways to organize. They have worked quote

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Speaker 1: behind the scenes. They told Gaytimes dot co dot UK,

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Speaker 1: because it keeps us focused, accountable, and effective. I think

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Speaker 1: We have to ask critical questions like how do we

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Speaker 1: In that Ben and Jerry's article, they talked about the

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Speaker 1: the feminist movement in the UK and globally right now

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Speaker 1: of color and sex workers. Right and Ralph continued to

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Speaker 1: the oppressor. And given that percent of all LGBTQ plus

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Speaker 1: hey from anti trans feminist trauma begets trauma. Let this

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Speaker 1: Let's resist simple narratives about those who seek to harm us.

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Speaker 1: They aren't a homogeneous group. A politics of scarcity and

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Speaker 1: aren't up for debate, recognize that the person's fear is okay.

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Speaker 1: doing some amazing things and we wanted to recognize their work. Yes, yes,

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Speaker 1: and some very great quotes on this one for sure.

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