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Speaker 1: they didn't have a shot. But a team that can

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Speaker 1: beat him, like you wouldn't bet on You'd bet on

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow if he's healthy, and he's obviously the wild card.

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Speaker 1: We just have to we don't know enough about his health.

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Speaker 1: I get a lot of people go, what it, where's

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Speaker 1: Joe Burrow? Well? I heard someone say this on the

433
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Speaker 1: podcast in Bengals fans would know that you guys are

434
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Speaker 1: following his training camp. Can he not play in three

435
00:24:55,760 --> 00:24:58,000
Speaker 1: straight practices right now? He has to take a day off.

436
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 1: That just concerns me. And Joe is healthy, and we

437
00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:02,840
Speaker 1: saw it for a stretch last year, like the game

438
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Speaker 1: he had against the forty nine ers when he destroyed him,

439
00:25:05,720 --> 00:25:08,439
Speaker 1: he looked like Joe Montana meets Peyton Manning. Obviously, he's

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Speaker 1: elite and another guy that I trust in big games.

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00:25:11,600 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 1: I don't trust Lamar in big games. I just don't.

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Speaker 1: It doesn't mean he can't change that. But right now,

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Speaker 1: if Josh Allen like can win big games. We saw

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Speaker 1: him go to to to. He through five touchdowns against

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Speaker 1: the Chiefs on the road and his defense screwed him.

446
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Speaker 1: You give Josh Allen Lamar's defense. He's winning Super Bowl.

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00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:35,760
Speaker 1: So I don't think it's that crazy of a statement.

448
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,359
Speaker 1: And again I'm not asking acting like Lamar Jackson's Dak Prescott.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I think he's a stud. I like the

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Speaker 1: guy a lot, but no one can dispute when you

451
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Speaker 1: watch him in the playoffs, he doesn't even look like

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Speaker 1: the same player. And last year's MVP, I listen pretty

453
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Speaker 1: almost it was not a great MVP season. Let's not

454
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Speaker 1: act like it's some of these great Rogers, Tom Brady.

455
00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,320
Speaker 1: It wasn't even nearly as good as this is original MVP,

456
00:26:03,280 --> 00:26:07,359
Speaker 1: not even close when you look at the stats. The

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Speaker 1: Ravens defense last year. Mike McDonald, who I watched a

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Speaker 1: press conference in them at Seattle, like what an impressive guy,

459
00:26:13,280 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: boy genius. Their defense was elite, their team was awesome,

460
00:26:17,640 --> 00:26:21,320
Speaker 1: and he sunk. You're totally right about the NCUBLEA and

461
00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:25,800
Speaker 1: their BS punishments. Asu got punished by them for COVID

462
00:26:25,880 --> 00:26:30,680
Speaker 1: recruiting violations years after the main offenders, herm was fired

463
00:26:30,760 --> 00:26:34,920
Speaker 1: and Jaden had transferred to LSU was a joke. I

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Speaker 1: don't understand why anyone listens to the NC DOUBLEA. I

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Speaker 1: will always say life starts after forty so you are

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Speaker 1: living the dream. Full disclosure. I hate the comment living

467
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Speaker 1: the dream partly because my dreams, like my actual dreams,

468
00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: change every night and depending on melatonins or whatever, I

469
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Speaker 1: can't even remember them. But I would agree your life

470
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Speaker 1: gets better or as you get older. With all the

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Speaker 1: drama in Niner Land, would you conclude there is an

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Speaker 1: underlying culture gap that the team is not priority one

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Speaker 1: if management instilled that mentality, but also that if you

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Speaker 1: show you are about the team, we will also proactively

475
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Speaker 1: take care of you. None of this would be happening

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Speaker 1: speaking from the Lions Land, where it seems like all

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00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:27,120
Speaker 1: the players in management are all on the same page. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: the forty nine Ers haven't won a Super Bowl, but

479
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Speaker 1: they've had way more success than the Lions. They also

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Speaker 1: have a lot of guys that need to get paid

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Speaker 1: so or want to get paid who are deserving to

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Speaker 1: get paid. And this is a business, so it's it's

483
00:27:42,400 --> 00:27:44,800
Speaker 1: easy to go old school. The team, the team, the team.

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Speaker 1: It's all about like, this is a business. And in life,

485
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Speaker 1: I don't care what you do. Sometimes you gotta fight

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Speaker 1: for your money. The only person who truly cares about

487
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: you is you. If the Niners could, they would give

488
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Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuka four year, forty million dollar contract. So I

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00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:02,480
Speaker 1: don't blame these guys even though these situations all are

490
00:28:02,520 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: a little different for wanting money. That's that's the way

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Speaker 1: the world works, especially in the NFL. I think, and

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00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,879
Speaker 1: I've heard this, Well, they paid Christian McCaffrey. Of course,

493
00:28:13,920 --> 00:28:17,080
Speaker 1: Brandon Ayuk's gonna be pissed how he's Christian McCaffrey got

494
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Speaker 1: a raise from like twelve million to nineteen million. If

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Speaker 1: that was the case with Brandon Ayuk, they would gladly

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00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:26,159
Speaker 1: raise from fourteen million dollar salary to nineteen million. Christian

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Speaker 1: McCaffrey does not make much money relative to what these

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Speaker 1: other guys make. Trent Williams, all time great player, all

499
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Speaker 1: these other guys he's better than, are getting paid. He

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Speaker 1: wants a raise. He has no guaranteed money. Totally get it.

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Speaker 1: The Ayuk situation. By the time you're listening to this,

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Speaker 1: maybe I'm recording this during the day on Tuesday, so

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Speaker 1: maybe he's been traded. I don't think it's a culture issue.

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00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: I just think these guys want to get I mean

505
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: last year Nick Bosa held out all of training camp.

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Speaker 1: I think the question is they got a bunch of injuries.

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Speaker 1: They've had a lot of drama. Is this year that

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Speaker 1: kind of catches up to them? I don't know. I

509
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:06,280
Speaker 1: still think they're really talented and their coaches elite, so

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Speaker 1: they should be fine in terms of regular season wins,

511
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Speaker 1: but injuries are a problem. They have an old team.

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Speaker 1: I love, it's like the oldest team in the NFL.

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00:29:15,280 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: You're thinking like thirty seven years old. It's like twenty

514
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Speaker 1: seven years old, and you don't have to go that

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Speaker 1: far to get to the top ten, where the average

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Speaker 1: age is like twenty five point eight. It's like, what

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Speaker 1: are we talking about here? I mean, now, some of

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Speaker 1: their better players, Kittles thirty, Trent Williams is thirty five,

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00:29:34,160 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: thirty six years old, hasn't been a training camp. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I think it's fair. You know, they signed Leonard Floyd,

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Speaker 1: who's played a long time. Javon Hargrave is a guy

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Speaker 1: in his third contract. Tarvarius Ward makes a lot of money,

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Speaker 1: is an older player. So I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: culture issue because I think every team deals with this.

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Speaker 1: What if the Eagles some of their players would have

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Speaker 1: said no to contracts they offered, would they have a

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Speaker 1: culture issue or just guys saying no to their contracts?

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Speaker 1: So I just think these I'm less phased by this

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Speaker 1: money going back and forth in terms of judging a person.

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Speaker 1: I fought for money. I'm sure everyone listening to this

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Speaker 1: fights for money. It's part of life. It just feels

532
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,959
Speaker 1: different when you're in the public spotlight and the dollar

533
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Speaker 1: amounts are public and big. But I think it's all

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Speaker 1: kind of falls under the same umbrella, like are you

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Speaker 1: selfish if you ask your company for a race? Are

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Speaker 1: you selfish if you know you negotiate a deal, if

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Speaker 1: you own a business and you say, well, the yesterday's

538
00:30:46,440 --> 00:30:49,959
Speaker 1: price is not today's price. You know, I'm dealing with

539
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Speaker 1: this wedding and I was talking to my brother who

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00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,960
Speaker 1: got married in twenty eighteen, and just asking him, you

541
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Speaker 1: know what he paid for this and stuff, and you

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Speaker 1: just realize it's hard to little thing called a historic

543
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: amount of inflation. So five thousand dollars on something in

544
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Speaker 1: twenty eighteen is what now eight And depending on where

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00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:13,520
Speaker 1: you're going or money changes. And I think we've seen

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00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:16,640
Speaker 1: the same thing with wide receiver inflation, player inflation, the

547
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Speaker 1: cap inflation. You got to kind of get numb to

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Speaker 1: the numbers. Listener from the UK a question for the

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Speaker 1: POD would achieves three peat make them the best dynasty ever?

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Speaker 1: Would put them in a special class because I'm pretty

551
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,280
Speaker 1: sure there's never been a three peat in NFL history,

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Speaker 1: So best dynasty ever? I think part of a dynasty, right,

553
00:31:43,320 --> 00:31:46,600
Speaker 1: Like the Warriors were a dynasty, but it lasted eight years.

554
00:31:47,320 --> 00:31:51,760
Speaker 1: You know, the Patriots lasted almost twenty. So would you

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00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 1: rather have the same amount of suit? Would you rather

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Speaker 1: have six super Bowls over twenty years or four super

557
00:31:57,680 --> 00:32:02,040
Speaker 1: Bowls over seven years and never win another one? I

558
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: think you gotta let things play out over the totality

559
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: and then judge them after. But it would be the

560
00:32:09,320 --> 00:32:12,040
Speaker 1: greatest run we've ever seen in NFL history these last

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Speaker 1: three years. If they win another super Bowl, one hundred

562
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:18,040
Speaker 1: percent I don't even think that's debatable. Big NFL fan

563
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:21,440
Speaker 1: over here in the UK, see what Roger's doing is working.

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00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:24,120
Speaker 1: You know, you send these teams across the pond, you

565
00:32:24,160 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: develop fans. Now, maybe you're just a been watching since

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Speaker 1: eighty two, So maybe Roger hasn't impacted you. Neutral now

567
00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,240
Speaker 1: as gave up on Washington because of Snyder and enjoyed

568
00:32:34,240 --> 00:32:39,280
Speaker 1: it a lot more question the Rams defensive line. Am

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00:32:39,320 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: seeing them play at Soldier Field in Week four? Excited

570
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,480
Speaker 1: about that? How big a drop off are you expecting

571
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Speaker 1: with the losses of Donald and Williams in the offseason?

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Speaker 1: If any? To me, their offense looks like it could

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Speaker 1: be potent. I think the hard part about judging. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: you lose Aaron Donald. There's no replacing that. There are

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Speaker 1: certain players you lose just do not replace, right, Like

576
00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 1: Trent Williams just retires tomorrow, there is no replacing that.

577
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:11,320
Speaker 1: It's impossible Aaron Donald retires. You get a caliber of player.

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Speaker 1: I don't care who you draft, I don't care who

579
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Speaker 1: you sign. You're not as good as that guy, and

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00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,480
Speaker 1: you don't impact the game plan of the opponent like

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00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:25,880
Speaker 1: that guy does. Where you keep the opposing coordinator, the

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Speaker 1: opposing players, you make them nervous. Now, if they hit

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Speaker 1: on these two defensive linemen that they draft in the

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Speaker 1: top I think both guys were top forty picks. I

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Speaker 1: mean one guy was a top twenty pick. Maybe it

586
00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: was like early twenties. I think he was twenty. I

587
00:33:40,280 --> 00:33:43,760
Speaker 1: think it was like nineteen, maybe twenty one. I don't

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Speaker 1: have the draft order in front of me. Jared Versu

589
00:33:46,760 --> 00:33:49,480
Speaker 1: and I forget the other guy's name, but the dtackle.

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00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 1: Both of them are Florida State guys. If they're really

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00:33:52,200 --> 00:33:55,480
Speaker 1: good players, then their D line should be pretty good.

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Speaker 1: Right we saw last year they hit on the pass

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00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,400
Speaker 1: rusher I think in the third round. And if these

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00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: two guys are good, but you never know with rookies.

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Speaker 1: The other thing with rookies is you could have a

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Speaker 1: good game or a good month, can you have a

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Speaker 1: good season. And that's the thing with Aaron Donald. When

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Speaker 1: you get a player of his caliber, you just go

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00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:16,360
Speaker 1: if he's on the field and he's healthy, I know

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00:34:16,440 --> 00:34:19,440
Speaker 1: exactly what I'm getting every game. Obviously some games are

601
00:34:19,480 --> 00:34:22,719
Speaker 1: better than others, but I'm getting an elite player all

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00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,880
Speaker 1: season long. And when you get rookies, even if you

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00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:29,560
Speaker 1: hit him out of the park. You just get moments

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00:34:29,560 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 1: where they don't show up, or maybe they run out

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00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: of gas, or maybe they get schemed against and they

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00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,759
Speaker 1: don't know what to do and they get overwhelmed. Maybe

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00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: they're just mentally fatigued, let alone physically fatigue. They never

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00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: played this many games. I just think it's an unknown.

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Speaker 1: It's a wild card. Though. If those guys are good,

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Speaker 1: they could be good. I mean, they're gonna be a

611
00:34:50,880 --> 00:34:53,440
Speaker 1: good team no matter what. But if those guys are

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00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,319
Speaker 1: impact players, they could be really good. The other day,

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Speaker 1: you were talking about how you do not think the

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Speaker 1: NFL will ever change the MVP to a quarterback award.

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00:35:02,440 --> 00:35:05,240
Speaker 1: Do you think we should separate MVP regular season awards,

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Speaker 1: one strictly for the quarterbacks and one for everyone else.

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00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:12,240
Speaker 1: I think we can talk about this all we want,

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Speaker 1: but a lot of people have a lot of different

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Speaker 1: ideas on awards, on rules in the regular season. If

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00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:26,360
Speaker 1: the league has no urgencies probably even the wrong word,

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Speaker 1: but just no desire to make a change, then it's

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00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 1: it's a pointless conversation. But yeah, I mean, it makes

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Speaker 1: it a lot easier. Seems like it'd be a pretty

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00:35:36,800 --> 00:35:40,000
Speaker 1: easy change, But I think that's kind of why they

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Speaker 1: do the Offensive Player of the Year and the MVP,

626
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Speaker 1: because the MVP feels like, moving forward, will just be

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Speaker 1: a quarterback, and the Offensive Player of the Year can

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00:35:49,600 --> 00:35:53,279
Speaker 1: be of Justin Jefferson can be a Christian McCaffrey. That's

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Speaker 1: what the nice part about Defensive Player of the Year,

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Speaker 1: which is just the defensive MVP, like any player can

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Speaker 1: get it right, Durell Reeves, Deon Sanders, a pass rusher,

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00:36:03,560 --> 00:36:08,600
Speaker 1: a line ray Lewis, Bryan or Lacker, ed Reed, Troy

633
00:36:08,640 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 1: Paula Malu, like every position is on the table. Where

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00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 1: with the like why can't if I don't allow a

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00:36:17,960 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: sack and I'm easily the best offensive lineman, why can't

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00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,360
Speaker 1: left tackle win the award? He never would? But whoever

637
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:30,320
Speaker 1: you know, Trent Williams or whoever that guy is, how's

638
00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,080
Speaker 1: he not the most valuable player? He's the best player.

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Speaker 1: And that's where I think you get in the argument

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Speaker 1: a most Valuable player to statistics. You know, it's just complicated.

641
00:36:41,239 --> 00:36:44,680
Speaker 1: That's why we argue about it all the time, which

642
00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:50,239
Speaker 1: is kind of fun. I've got something that nobody is considering,

643
00:36:50,680 --> 00:36:54,600
Speaker 1: and I'm surprised when I hear the price only goes

644
00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:58,680
Speaker 1: up for contracts. My response is no, shit, But that

645
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:03,640
Speaker 1: doesn't mean it's smart to pay guys you plan on paying.

646
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: The salary cap increased by less than six percent on

647
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 1: average the past decade. I think they think that's supposed

648
00:37:12,160 --> 00:37:15,200
Speaker 1: to go up closer to ten over the next decade,

649
00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: but so that six might be nine or ten moving forward.

650
00:37:19,040 --> 00:37:21,320
Speaker 1: But I hear what you're saying. The rate of return

651
00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:26,359
Speaker 1: on the SMP is closer to fifteen percent. So if

652
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: you're going to pay one hundred million dollars signing bonus

653
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:33,839
Speaker 1: on an extension, you can pay that to avoid paying

654
00:37:33,880 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: one oh five next year. But savvy thing to do

655
00:37:36,640 --> 00:37:39,120
Speaker 1: is use that one hundred to get the return of

656
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Speaker 1: one hundred and fifteen million, then paying the extra five

657
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: and six still nets you ten million dollars more. When

658
00:37:47,239 --> 00:37:50,760
Speaker 1: Jerry said he didn't have urgency because he went to college,

659
00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 1: I assume this is what he meant. I know most

660
00:37:53,560 --> 00:37:58,040
Speaker 1: people aren't tuned into finance, but the owners are. Do

661
00:37:58,080 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 1: you think these players understand that taking a deal early

662
00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:05,399
Speaker 1: for less is beneficial to the player because they can

663
00:38:05,440 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: start realized games. I think a lot of agents understand this.

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Speaker 1: It's why I think a lot of players push for

665
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: big signing bonuses because you could argue, take a little

666
00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:24,719
Speaker 1: bit less guaranteed. Would you rather have sixty truly guaranteed

667
00:38:25,480 --> 00:38:29,360
Speaker 1: and a fifty million dollars signing bonus paid immediately, or

668
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:34,520
Speaker 1: seventy five guaranteed with a twenty five million dollar signing bonus? Right?

669
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Speaker 1: I mean these are type conversations that agents and contract

670
00:38:38,640 --> 00:38:41,719
Speaker 1: negotiators are having. It's why I think Jordan Love is

671
00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: a good example. He got less money than Tua, but

672
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:50,280
Speaker 1: before Christmas he will have received seventy five million dollars.

673
00:38:51,160 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: So I think if we want to break down his deal,

674
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Speaker 1: you could argue the money up front he's getting is

675
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Speaker 1: a more valuable contract than what Tua got because of

676
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Speaker 1: the ability to invest the money and assuming that he'll

677
00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:07,560
Speaker 1: just play the stock market or invest in real estate

678
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,000
Speaker 1: or whatever. Because like you said, prices don't come down,

679
00:39:12,040 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: they go up, and we've seen that more than ever,

680
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,360
Speaker 1: definitely in my lifetime over the last three or four years.

681
00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: In these inflationary times. Now, inflation impacts everybody, but a

682
00:39:26,760 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 1: guy making one hundred grand and a dude making seventy

683
00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:35,520
Speaker 1: five million dollars is a little less faced by inflationary times, right,

684
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Speaker 1: if I got seventy five million dollars. It's funny. There

685
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,880
Speaker 1: were some houses in my neighborhood that were on sale

686
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Speaker 1: for a lot like triple what I bought my house for,

687
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:49,359
Speaker 1: which is cool. Obviously, with high rates, it's a little

688
00:39:49,400 --> 00:39:52,160
Speaker 1: harder to flip them, and one was a legit flip,

689
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,319
Speaker 1: and I, me and Maria went over there when they

690
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:55,799
Speaker 1: first went on the market just to check it out.

691
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,560
Speaker 1: It was like, let's see what this bad boy's bringing

692
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Speaker 1: to the table. And I was bs the real estate agent,

693
00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,879
Speaker 1: and She's like, at the end of the day, if

694
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Speaker 1: we sell this house, the rate won't matter because someone's

695
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 1: gonna pay cash. And when rates are high, higher price

696
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Speaker 1: points in real estate, for example, or in anything, the

697
00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,920
Speaker 1: big money people are more likely to pay cash because

698
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Speaker 1: they're unfazed by whether it's a seven percent rate or

699
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Speaker 1: six point six percent rate doesn't matter. When I bought

700
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Speaker 1: my house, the rate kind of mattered because I was

701
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Speaker 1: only gonna put down fifteen or ten percent or whatever.

702
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Speaker 1: But if I was paying cash, who gives a shit

703
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Speaker 1: what the rate is. And that's where I think, when

704
00:40:40,680 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: you're talking these price points or this value of these contracts,

705
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 1: the money up front is really really important at an agent,

706
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: yell at me a couple of years ago over something

707
00:40:51,360 --> 00:40:54,799
Speaker 1: with a player and the team that he was dealing with.

708
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: He's like, they don't pay big bonuses partly because they

709
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Speaker 1: don't have the cash like some of these other teams do.

710
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:03,719
Speaker 1: It's what Jake Rosenberg, when he was on a couple

711
00:41:03,800 --> 00:41:08,120
Speaker 1: weeks ago, talked about, it's so easy to complain, but

712
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,239
Speaker 1: you can maneuver any contract you want because you can

713
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:16,640
Speaker 1: finagle the bonus. So even if I don't have I

714
00:41:16,680 --> 00:41:19,920
Speaker 1: only have seven million dollars in cap space in free agency,

715
00:41:20,600 --> 00:41:23,080
Speaker 1: I could still win the bidding on a player if

716
00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 1: I'm willing to want, I can just fudge his cap

717
00:41:26,560 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: number that first year at like three million dollars, and

718
00:41:29,680 --> 00:41:32,640
Speaker 1: I can give him a ton of money up front.

719
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, I just those conversations that you're

720
00:41:36,800 --> 00:41:40,839
Speaker 1: having get talked about all the time, especially now with

721
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Speaker 1: the money that they are discussing, which is insanely high.

722
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Speaker 1: It's why, ultimately, when you see guys arguing like you

723
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: lose the public like no one actually cares whether I

724
00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: Uke makes twenty six and a half million dollars or

725
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:01,759
Speaker 1: twenty eight million dollars. No one cares. He cares as

726
00:42:01,800 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 1: he should. And the tax rate with in Pittsburgh is

727
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,719
Speaker 1: ten percent lower, it's a flat rate, a little over

728
00:42:10,760 --> 00:42:14,279
Speaker 1: three percent. Well you're paying over thirteen percent in California.

729
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: So that's those will the discussions I'm having for every

730
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: million dollars I'm getting tax I gotta pay one hundred

731
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:26,440
Speaker 1: and thirty grand or I pay thirty grand. It's a

732
00:42:26,520 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 1: it's a big deal. So yeah, I think these conversations

733
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: are one hundred percent happening. The Packers and Bears rivalry

734
00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:39,560
Speaker 1: obviously is the biggest in the NFL. Eh, I don't

735
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:46,120
Speaker 1: know about that. To me, a rivalry obviously, history plays

736
00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,759
Speaker 1: a huge part in it, but it's also like rivalries

737
00:42:49,880 --> 00:42:54,239
Speaker 1: change when teams suck. And the Bears, as Rogers been

738
00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,719
Speaker 1: saying forever, have been owned by the Packers. So a

739
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 1: rivalry in its is when it's going back and forth.

740
00:43:02,760 --> 00:43:05,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, they've been playing for a long time, but

741
00:43:05,719 --> 00:43:09,359
Speaker 1: it doesn't it feels like a one sided rivalry, right

742
00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:12,760
Speaker 1: Like Auburn has beat Alabama, so it makes that rivalry

743
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:15,880
Speaker 1: pretty interesting. Now that Jim Harbob beat Ohio State, a

744
00:43:15,920 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 1: couple times. It makes that rivalry even more interesting. But

745
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 1: when one team is just consistently beating your ass, it

746
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 1: doesn't quite feel Even though it's a historic rivalry, it

747
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:28,799
Speaker 1: doesn't feel the same. But I hear what you're saying.

748
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,360
Speaker 1: If Caleb Williams can help the Bears turn things around,

749
00:43:33,920 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 1: then the Jordan Love versus Caleb Williams rivalry could be

750
00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,880
Speaker 1: the biggest in the NFL over the next decade or

751
00:43:38,920 --> 00:43:42,400
Speaker 1: so and could really help revive the Packers Bears rivalry.

752
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:46,120
Speaker 1: You've heard nothing about it this offseason. It's interesting how

753
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 1: the two teams got their franchise quarterbacks in complete opposite ways.

754
00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 1: Jordan was considered a project, sat behind Rogers in great

755
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,719
Speaker 1: offensive coaching staff for three years, whereas Caleb is a

756
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:01,800
Speaker 1: camp miss prospect, going to literally quarterback graveyard in Chicago.

757
00:44:02,440 --> 00:44:04,440
Speaker 1: You can say what you want about the weapons, but

758
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:06,279
Speaker 1: I couldn't think of a worse place for a young

759
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: quarterback to go. What do you think will have a

760
00:44:08,520 --> 00:44:11,640
Speaker 1: better career based on what you've seen so far? Well,

761
00:44:11,960 --> 00:44:15,759
Speaker 1: I mean as of right now, you would have to

762
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:18,719
Speaker 1: bet on Jordan Love because I've seen Jordan Love in

763
00:44:18,800 --> 00:44:24,000
Speaker 1: regular season playoff games, thrive, thrive, and he's with an

764
00:44:24,080 --> 00:44:27,640
Speaker 1: organization that is consistently successful. So if you were just

765
00:44:27,760 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 1: playing the odds, you would pick Jordan Love. Now, if

766
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,880
Speaker 1: you want it to be a little riskier investor, you

767
00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,480
Speaker 1: might pick Caleb. Someone shot me an email the other

768
00:44:37,560 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: day and said, listen, I agree with what you said

769
00:44:40,719 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 1: about Caleb's first game, this preseason game which anyone that want,

770
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: my mom could have watched it in seeing the skills,

771
00:44:48,760 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: but the knock and Merril Hodge, I guess has said

772
00:44:53,400 --> 00:44:56,319
Speaker 1: over the past six months that he doesn't like him

773
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:59,160
Speaker 1: from the pocket at all, and you don't really see

774
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:03,480
Speaker 1: that much in the preseason game, especially against schemed looks,

775
00:45:03,560 --> 00:45:06,360
Speaker 1: which we won't get until the regal season starts. That

776
00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,640
Speaker 1: is a question mark. Can he pick you apart in

777
00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,160
Speaker 1: the NFL from the pocket? Because we know he can move,

778
00:45:12,280 --> 00:45:14,360
Speaker 1: we know he's got a huge arm, we know he

779
00:45:14,400 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: can throw on the run the ten plus times where

780
00:45:19,000 --> 00:45:22,840
Speaker 1: it's like second and eight, third and eleven. Can he

781
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,719
Speaker 1: just dice you from the pocket? I've seen Jordan Love

782
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 1: do that in the NFL on the road in the

783
00:45:29,280 --> 00:45:32,880
Speaker 1: playoffs with thirty plus million people watching against the Boys,

784
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:38,879
Speaker 1: So I would say, yeah, This rivalry could be resparked

785
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 1: right now. I would say a better rivalry is Cowboys

786
00:45:42,640 --> 00:45:45,120
Speaker 1: and Eagles. Why they've both been good? Niners and Rams

787
00:45:45,120 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 1: why they've both been good. I mean, you kind of

788
00:45:48,719 --> 00:45:51,880
Speaker 1: gotta be good to make it a true rivalry that

789
00:45:52,400 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: in current times everyone's invested into. I hope it is

790
00:45:58,080 --> 00:46:00,440
Speaker 1: good because the more good teams, the more more interesting

791
00:46:00,480 --> 00:46:03,879
Speaker 1: the league is, the better businesses, more entertained we all are.

792
00:46:05,600 --> 00:46:07,360
Speaker 1: I'll be in Vegas next week and I want to

793
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 1: play some long bets any favorites. I kind of like

794
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,239
Speaker 1: the Saints to make the playoffs. I think you get that.

795
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:19,600
Speaker 1: I saw in DraftKings for plus one seventy five. I

796
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,440
Speaker 1: kind of like the Bills. I think you get there

797
00:46:22,960 --> 00:46:25,480
Speaker 1: them to be the one seed at like four or

798
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,879
Speaker 1: five to one. Obviously, if you watch that first preseason game,

799
00:46:30,040 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: you'd be like they got a long way to go.

800
00:46:34,600 --> 00:46:38,359
Speaker 1: I looked at some college bets. Fresno State to win

801
00:46:38,360 --> 00:46:40,160
Speaker 1: the Mountain West, you get them at plus four to

802
00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 1: seventy five. Those are three that I've kind of looked at.

803
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: I'm biased. I on Frezle State, not gonna lie huge

804
00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: fan from Mexico. I have a bet with a friend

805
00:46:51,239 --> 00:46:53,879
Speaker 1: we made about five years ago. He's a Chargers fan

806
00:46:54,000 --> 00:46:58,680
Speaker 1: and loved Rivers. Being quite biased, he believes Rivers will

807
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,840
Speaker 1: be a Hall of Famer. I'm not so convinced. The

808
00:47:02,920 --> 00:47:05,480
Speaker 1: bet is whether or not Rivers will be a first

809
00:47:05,640 --> 00:47:09,719
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer. To me, it seems that cut

810
00:47:09,719 --> 00:47:12,280
Speaker 1: out of the four draft class, he had the least

811
00:47:12,280 --> 00:47:15,799
Speaker 1: impressive career to bet and Eli not only was he

812
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,320
Speaker 1: less accomplished, but I also believe he was the least

813
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,120
Speaker 1: talented quarterback of the three. Do you think Rivers will

814
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:25,279
Speaker 1: make it the Hall of Fame? And what are your

815
00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 1: thoughts on the quarterbacks from the four draft class. Well,

816
00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:32,160
Speaker 1: Roethlisberger's a first bout Hall of Famer, that's not a question.

817
00:47:33,040 --> 00:47:37,719
Speaker 1: Eli is one of the more polarizing players. But we

818
00:47:37,760 --> 00:47:40,959
Speaker 1: can't put extra weight on the playoffs and not act

819
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,240
Speaker 1: like his two runs weren't two of the most incredible

820
00:47:43,239 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: things we've ever seen, which is going to get him in.

821
00:47:47,040 --> 00:47:49,200
Speaker 1: Do I think Eli's a first bollot Hall of Famer?

822
00:47:49,320 --> 00:47:52,279
Speaker 1: Probably not, but I think he's a borderline lock. He

823
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:57,000
Speaker 1: beat Belichick and Brady twice. He went on the road

824
00:47:57,040 --> 00:48:00,640
Speaker 1: and took out Farv and Harbaugh in Green Bay and

825
00:48:00,640 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 1: San Francisco in very tough conditions. It wasn't all him,

826
00:48:04,239 --> 00:48:08,479
Speaker 1: but he was the quarterback. So I do not think

827
00:48:08,880 --> 00:48:10,919
Speaker 1: one if you bet against Rivers being in a first

828
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,800
Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, you're going to win that bet.

829
00:48:14,200 --> 00:48:16,680
Speaker 1: I like Philip Rivers a lot. I've said forever. I

830
00:48:16,719 --> 00:48:20,480
Speaker 1: think he would be an incredible broadcaster. I think he

831
00:48:20,520 --> 00:48:25,120
Speaker 1: would be awesome calling football games as an analyst. I

832
00:48:25,160 --> 00:48:28,160
Speaker 1: think he's made for it. I don't think he's a

833
00:48:28,200 --> 00:48:31,160
Speaker 1: Hall of Famer. I would not vote Philip Rivers in

834
00:48:31,160 --> 00:48:33,760
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame. And I really enjoyed his career,

835
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: and he obviously had some really good moments, and when

836
00:48:36,080 --> 00:48:38,200
Speaker 1: he was healthy, he could be a really, really good player.

837
00:48:39,280 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 1: And if you flip flopped the two and put Eli

838
00:48:41,320 --> 00:48:44,440
Speaker 1: in San Diego and Rivers in New York, maybe it

839
00:48:44,440 --> 00:48:48,359
Speaker 1: looks different, but that didn't happen. So I would say

840
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 1: Rivers not a Hall of Famer. Like I said, Ben,

841
00:48:51,600 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 1: first ballot lock Eli. I think there will be some

842
00:48:55,280 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: arguing back and forth. He will get in, Rivers will not.

843
00:48:59,239 --> 00:49:02,080
Speaker 1: I'm a high schools who found you while listening to

844
00:49:02,080 --> 00:49:08,280
Speaker 1: Colin last year. Have listened to every episode since. Anyway,

845
00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,439
Speaker 1: the last thing I was gonna say is that it's

846
00:49:10,440 --> 00:49:13,400
Speaker 1: cool podcasting. You feel that you really know a person

847
00:49:14,120 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: you've never talked to them before. I feel like if

848
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:19,520
Speaker 1: I ever got the chance to meet you would really

849
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:21,880
Speaker 1: be cool. I'm a Ohio State fan, so I like

850
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,560
Speaker 1: all the players that come from there to the NFL.

851
00:49:25,080 --> 00:49:28,160
Speaker 1: I know you weren't high on Marvin Harrison junior coming out.

852
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Speaker 1: I mean I had him a top ten player. I

853
00:49:31,480 --> 00:49:33,839
Speaker 1: just had neighbors over him. I would say pretty high

854
00:49:33,880 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 1: on him. I mean, I think he's gonna be pretty good.

855
00:49:36,400 --> 00:49:38,520
Speaker 1: It's weird. It's like I had Josh Allen over Lamar.

856
00:49:38,560 --> 00:49:40,399
Speaker 1: It's like you hate Lamar. It's like he's the third

857
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 1: best quarterback in the league. Uh, do you think that

858
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:48,560
Speaker 1: he could elevate Kyler and make him a top ten

859
00:49:48,640 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: quarterback or does or do you think they make the

860
00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:57,279
Speaker 1: playoffs and could he win Offensive Rookie of the Year. Then

861
00:49:57,320 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 1: about my new favorite quarterback, CJ. Stroud, Where would you

862
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,479
Speaker 1: rank in the NFL? A lot of questions here, let's

863
00:50:02,480 --> 00:50:05,359
Speaker 1: just focus on Marvin Harrison. I was thinking about this.

864
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:11,160
Speaker 1: I think that the NFC West has like the smartest

865
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,600
Speaker 1: group of coaches Kyle and McVeigh. We all call them

866
00:50:14,600 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: like offensive geniuses. Mike McDonald nickname in Baltimore was boy genius.

867
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Speaker 1: And I think Jonathan Gannon I met him in Philly.

868
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:26,919
Speaker 1: All my buddies in Philly, they swear by the guy.

869
00:50:27,520 --> 00:50:31,399
Speaker 1: I actually think he's pretty impressive. Uh just you talk

870
00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:33,480
Speaker 1: to him. You hear him talk the press like he's

871
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,120
Speaker 1: this impressive guy. I know that thing that went viral

872
00:50:36,160 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: of the Peo Peo pew was kind of funny and

873
00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:43,040
Speaker 1: he got made fun of. But he's impressive guy. I

874
00:50:43,120 --> 00:50:45,920
Speaker 1: just don't think they're gonna have the talent to compete

875
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:50,280
Speaker 1: to the playoffs. But Kyler's a problem, and if he's healthy,

876
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 1: he's tough to play against on a weekly basis. Man,

877
00:50:54,200 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 1: that little dude scrambles around. He's got a big arm

878
00:50:57,280 --> 00:50:59,080
Speaker 1: when he gets hot, and he usually gets hot in

879
00:50:59,120 --> 00:51:01,360
Speaker 1: the second half. He's taken down a lot of people.

880
00:51:02,000 --> 00:51:07,799
Speaker 1: So Marvin Harrison is gonna benefit dramatically from having like

881
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:10,239
Speaker 1: Marvin Harrison last year played with a guy who wasn't

882
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:13,000
Speaker 1: any good, who's just not a good player. That's why

883
00:51:13,040 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: he's not the starting quarterback. And they told him to

884
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 1: transfer You're not gonna start here anymore. It's why Ohio

885
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:21,560
Speaker 1: State is a new quarterback. When Marvin Harrison had CJ. Stroud,

886
00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:25,520
Speaker 1: it was like Jesus, and CJ is a different type player.

887
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:29,360
Speaker 1: You know. CJ's a pocket quarterback. Kyler's much more of

888
00:51:29,400 --> 00:51:33,120
Speaker 1: like this versatile kind of run around throw guy. But

889
00:51:33,480 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: he's proven to be a good NFL player, And I

890
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,759
Speaker 1: would expect Marvin Harrison to be pretty productive this year

891
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: for sure on CJ. I think Texans are gonna be

892
00:51:42,920 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 1: a problem, man. I think they got something brewing. Tank

893
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: Dell is a monster. That dude is a baller. Nico

894
00:51:53,320 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 1: Collins is like six three two twenty five. He's on

895
00:51:56,080 --> 00:52:00,839
Speaker 1: a cheap contract. Baller. They trade for Dick who, let's face,

896
00:52:00,840 --> 00:52:05,240
Speaker 1: they don't even need. They're gonna be good, man. They're

897
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:17,279
Speaker 1: gonna be a problem this year. You often talk about

898
00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:19,960
Speaker 1: how the NFL is cashing in big time on TV

899
00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:23,880
Speaker 1: deals for teams that play on Sunday not Sunday Night football.

900
00:52:24,480 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: Is the revenue divvied up equally across all the teams

901
00:52:28,880 --> 00:52:32,839
Speaker 1: for primetime games Thursday, Sunday Monday, Does that pot of

902
00:52:32,960 --> 00:52:36,280
Speaker 1: money only go to the two teams playing same question

903
00:52:36,360 --> 00:52:38,640
Speaker 1: for the playoff games as well. For a team like

904
00:52:38,680 --> 00:52:41,239
Speaker 1: the Broncos that won the Super Bowl in sixteen but

905
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 1: haven't been back to the playoffs since, does that mean

906
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:48,440
Speaker 1: there's a lot less money the strength of the NFL,

907
00:52:48,880 --> 00:52:52,960
Speaker 1: despite a lot of teams not factoring in to playing

908
00:52:52,960 --> 00:52:56,200
Speaker 1: on Sunday and Monday night football consistently and drawing big ratings,

909
00:52:57,120 --> 00:53:01,480
Speaker 1: they split the money equally. It's the power of the

910
00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:05,800
Speaker 1: valuations of these teams. It's why you can buy the Panthers,

911
00:53:06,040 --> 00:53:07,759
Speaker 1: or you can have the Cowboys, the nine Ers, or

912
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:09,520
Speaker 1: the Packers. I know the Packers have an owner, but

913
00:53:09,600 --> 00:53:14,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You get the same revenue check. Forever,

914
00:53:14,120 --> 00:53:17,840
Speaker 1: Al Davis and the Raiders didn't have any money relative

915
00:53:17,880 --> 00:53:20,640
Speaker 1: to the rich owners, but once the season started and

916
00:53:20,680 --> 00:53:23,799
Speaker 1: they got the revenue checks from the media, it was

917
00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:27,600
Speaker 1: the same amount as the Cowboys. It's why Jerry Jones

918
00:53:27,680 --> 00:53:32,800
Speaker 1: is always bitching and moaning about UH merchandise and owning

919
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:37,239
Speaker 1: his own revenue because the power of the NFL is

920
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:42,200
Speaker 1: under the umbrella of the national television deal, which is CBS,

921
00:53:42,239 --> 00:53:46,319
Speaker 1: Fox in NBC and now Amazon and Netflix. So when

922
00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:48,600
Speaker 1: they get one hundred and fifty or two hundred million

923
00:53:48,600 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 1: dollars from Netflix or a billion dollars from Amazon. That

924
00:53:51,440 --> 00:53:55,080
Speaker 1: gets divvied up equally to the owners, who then divvy

925
00:53:55,120 --> 00:53:58,640
Speaker 1: that up to the players, basically fifty to fifty. It's

926
00:53:58,680 --> 00:54:01,680
Speaker 1: the most powerful thing about the NFL. That's the thing

927
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,440
Speaker 1: with the NBA. They divvy up their television deal equally,

928
00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,520
Speaker 1: but every team has their own independent deal with their

929
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,919
Speaker 1: local television right the next TV deal, the Warriors TV deal,

930
00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:19,040
Speaker 1: the Lakers TV deal generates different amounts of money than

931
00:54:19,080 --> 00:54:23,560
Speaker 1: Oklahoma City or Orlando. There is no local television deal

932
00:54:23,600 --> 00:54:29,240
Speaker 1: with the Niners, or the Giants or the Jets, different

933
00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 1: from the Tampa Bay Bucks. There's only national television games

934
00:54:36,280 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 1: and everyone gets same amount of money equally. Same with

935
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:43,840
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean, that's all built in to the

936
00:54:43,880 --> 00:54:48,160
Speaker 1: television deals. Brian from Toronto love the podcast. I subscribe

937
00:54:48,160 --> 00:54:52,359
Speaker 1: and listen from Toronto Huge Bills Fan. Quick question. When

938
00:54:52,400 --> 00:54:55,800
Speaker 1: the Jets and Giants play, or Chargers and Rams play

939
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,840
Speaker 1: against each other, do they still get ready in the

940
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,720
Speaker 1: home locker room even though they are the visiting team

941
00:55:02,280 --> 00:55:04,760
Speaker 1: or do they make them get ready for the game

942
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,320
Speaker 1: in the visitor locker room? Just wondering keep it the

943
00:55:07,360 --> 00:55:12,840
Speaker 1: good work. It's a good question. I would imagine do

944
00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,400
Speaker 1: the Chargers use the rams home locker room. I'm not

945
00:55:16,440 --> 00:55:19,919
Speaker 1: sure about that. I think the Chargers could be wrong here.

946
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,520
Speaker 1: I think there's a visitor locker room. Again, could be

947
00:55:22,560 --> 00:55:25,480
Speaker 1: wrong here. And then the Chargers and Rams have different

948
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,960
Speaker 1: locker rooms. Not quite you're on that one. Pretty sure

949
00:55:29,000 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: the Giants and Jets flip flop like that's a split.

950
00:55:32,719 --> 00:55:35,200
Speaker 1: The Rams built that, and then the Charges are their tenant.

951
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: So I don't know about that one. It's a good question.

952
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,319
Speaker 1: If there were only two locker rooms, the home team

953
00:55:43,360 --> 00:55:47,239
Speaker 1: would get the home locker room in that scenario. But

954
00:55:47,280 --> 00:55:51,399
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure there's more than two locker rooms. At

955
00:55:51,440 --> 00:55:55,280
Speaker 1: so far. I think it MetLife. There are two locker rooms,

956
00:55:55,320 --> 00:55:58,160
Speaker 1: and in that scenario the Jets are Giants. If they're

957
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,839
Speaker 1: playing each other, one team would get the home walcker room.

958
00:56:01,280 --> 00:56:05,000
Speaker 1: Thoughts on hard knocks ebraflus, isn't it concerned about his

959
00:56:05,080 --> 00:56:10,240
Speaker 1: looks and his beard and not focused on the important matters? Also,

960
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,520
Speaker 1: kissing Caleb Williams's ass, I get you to the number

961
00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:15,880
Speaker 1: one pick, but Jesus he hasn't have a snap in

962
00:56:15,920 --> 00:56:20,799
Speaker 1: the NFL he's not a coach, he's a fanboy. I

963
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: will say this, I like ebra Flus's look, and I'm

964
00:56:24,000 --> 00:56:28,400
Speaker 1: hard on Sala for dying his beard. If your wife

965
00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:31,720
Speaker 1: wants you to look a little different, guess what, happy wife,

966
00:56:31,880 --> 00:56:36,040
Speaker 1: happy life. It's always easy for other people to judge

967
00:56:36,120 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 1: like you ain't the one sleeping with him, so if

968
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:41,719
Speaker 1: she wants that, I got no problem with it if

969
00:56:41,760 --> 00:56:44,279
Speaker 1: ebra Flus had. The other thing is they show eber

970
00:56:44,280 --> 00:56:46,960
Speaker 1: Flus getting his haircut. Guess what. I used to get

971
00:56:46,960 --> 00:56:49,959
Speaker 1: my haircut in the facility. That's where all these guys

972
00:56:49,960 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 1: get their haircut. So Sean McVeigh get's done up doesn't

973
00:56:54,680 --> 00:56:56,799
Speaker 1: bother me to the least. If he had dyed his

974
00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,719
Speaker 1: hair and his beard, that would be a little much.

975
00:57:00,320 --> 00:57:03,120
Speaker 1: He just grut his hair and had a beard. Listen

976
00:57:03,160 --> 00:57:05,000
Speaker 1: to someone that's bald. I would die to have his hair.

977
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:08,840
Speaker 1: I think it's a good look. The dying the beard

978
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:10,600
Speaker 1: is trying to be something you're not. You got grace.

979
00:57:10,640 --> 00:57:13,919
Speaker 1: Who gives a shit? You're old? Robert Sally got grace.

980
00:57:14,120 --> 00:57:17,440
Speaker 1: No one cares. Let's work on his On Reddick, I

981
00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:19,720
Speaker 1: have a much bigger issue with the dying of the

982
00:57:19,720 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: beard than I do. A guy growing a beard and

983
00:57:23,640 --> 00:57:26,720
Speaker 1: kisses Caleb William's ass because that is his ticket to

984
00:57:26,720 --> 00:57:30,560
Speaker 1: getting a contract extension. What you're supposed to do is

985
00:57:30,560 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: scream at him every day. I actually thought eber Flus

986
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,720
Speaker 1: came away pretty likable, pretty impressive, very just comfortable in

987
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,760
Speaker 1: his own skin. That was my takeaway. So I was

988
00:57:42,760 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: the opposite of you. Listen to your most recent podcast.

989
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:48,560
Speaker 1: I still think Josh Gordon could have gone down as

990
00:57:48,560 --> 00:57:51,000
Speaker 1: one of the best if it wasn't for his suspensions,

991
00:57:51,000 --> 00:57:52,960
Speaker 1: which feel pretty antiquated. To dude, is just smoke a

992
00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:57,120
Speaker 1: little weed, assuming it was just weed. That was in

993
00:57:57,200 --> 00:58:00,840
Speaker 1: response to someone asked, if you could, who are the

994
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,760
Speaker 1: best wide receivers the last twenty years? Agree? Josh Gordon

995
00:58:04,880 --> 00:58:07,640
Speaker 1: was pretty talented. Question for the mailbag A long run,

996
00:58:07,680 --> 00:58:11,120
Speaker 1: so I apologize. Are wide receivers about to hit a

997
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 1: wall with contract values? We saw this with running backs

998
00:58:14,320 --> 00:58:17,800
Speaker 1: Saquon Eckler, Jacob Zeke. Now we are at the point

999
00:58:17,840 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: with cd I Yuke. Next up will be Chase Higgins

1000
00:58:20,680 --> 00:58:24,920
Speaker 1: and Diggs. Should we expect a regression? I think it's

1001
00:58:24,960 --> 00:58:27,600
Speaker 1: going to be very telling that over these next couple

1002
00:58:27,640 --> 00:58:30,720
Speaker 1: of years, the Chiefs are not paying anyone big money.

1003
00:58:31,120 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: The Ravens are not paying any one big money. The

1004
00:58:33,880 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 1: Chargers get good, they are not paying any one big money.

1005
00:58:37,120 --> 00:58:40,720
Speaker 1: The Packers not paying any wide receiver big money. The Lions. Finally,

1006
00:58:40,760 --> 00:58:44,600
Speaker 1: did you know the forty nine ers have had debo?

1007
00:58:44,720 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 1: But he's relative to these other contracts, he got less

1008
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:53,440
Speaker 1: than half of what Jefferson did. Guaranteed. If these teams

1009
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:55,840
Speaker 1: do not win with hot, the Eagles are paying their

1010
00:58:55,840 --> 00:58:58,360
Speaker 1: two wide receivers a lot of money. If it works,

1011
00:58:58,720 --> 00:59:01,920
Speaker 1: people follow. I don't care what business you're in. I mean,

1012
00:59:01,960 --> 00:59:03,720
Speaker 1: I listen to other podcasts all the time, Like, that's

1013
00:59:03,720 --> 00:59:05,760
Speaker 1: a pretty good idea. I should try that. Maybe I

1014
00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: should have that guy on. I mean, you're always looking

1015
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: to steal to get better, and if something doesn't work,

1016
00:59:11,760 --> 00:59:14,120
Speaker 1: you kind of you pivot, and like, I probably shouldn't

1017
00:59:14,120 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: try that. Well, if all these wide receiver contracts fail,

1018
00:59:19,600 --> 00:59:22,320
Speaker 1: or you know, the teams regress because their team's not

1019
00:59:22,360 --> 00:59:25,959
Speaker 1: as deep, there will be a pivot. I mean, what

1020
00:59:26,080 --> 00:59:30,160
Speaker 1: was the reason teams stop paying running backs. It wasn't

1021
00:59:30,160 --> 00:59:34,080
Speaker 1: because they're not good running backs. It's because Zeke immediately

1022
00:59:34,120 --> 00:59:37,080
Speaker 1: didn't look the same Todd Gurley's knee fell apart. You're like,

1023
00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:40,960
Speaker 1: this is too risky. So everyone pivoted, and now the

1024
00:59:41,000 --> 00:59:43,560
Speaker 1: price didn't really jump. Everyone's like, I'll dive back into

1025
00:59:43,600 --> 00:59:48,160
Speaker 1: the deep end. Saquon got a contract, McCaffrey got a raise.

1026
00:59:48,880 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: So I think it just depends how things go. If

1027
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,320
Speaker 1: all these wide receiver contracts blow up in people's faces,

1028
00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 1: teams will pivot and they'll stop paying and they'll just

1029
00:59:59,480 --> 01:00:02,280
Speaker 1: trade them to the bad teams that will pay. But

1030
01:00:02,560 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: if it works, teams will do it. I don't think

1031
01:00:06,360 --> 01:00:09,480
Speaker 1: it's you get in a tough position when you draft

1032
01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:12,360
Speaker 1: a guy and then he's really good, and he's a

1033
01:00:12,400 --> 01:00:15,120
Speaker 1: good guy and the team likes him, the coaches like him.

1034
01:00:15,160 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: What are you supposed to do not pay him? Because

1035
01:00:18,200 --> 01:00:20,640
Speaker 1: you would pay other positions. Right if the same thing

1036
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,320
Speaker 1: was a tackle or pass rusher or corner, you're like, hell, yeah,

1037
01:00:25,040 --> 01:00:27,800
Speaker 1: pay that guy. But with wide receivers, like you said,

1038
01:00:27,840 --> 01:00:30,280
Speaker 1: now it's turned into running backs, like can I find

1039
01:00:30,320 --> 01:00:33,760
Speaker 1: another one? And it's also pretty basic economics supply demand.

1040
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,360
Speaker 1: Colin and I talked about the other day.

1041
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,440
Speaker 3: Look how many wide receivers that were just drafted the

1042
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 3: last couple of years dude's NonStop guys thriving in like

1043
01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 3: the twenties. Well, if I draft a guy at twenty

1044
01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,480
Speaker 3: six and he becomes a stud, it's one of the

1045
01:00:49,520 --> 01:00:53,160
Speaker 3: best contracts in the league. Like if Malik Neighbors or

1046
01:00:53,200 --> 01:00:56,760
Speaker 3: Marvin Harrison is a star, doesn't get any better than

1047
01:00:56,800 --> 01:00:59,959
Speaker 3: that from a deal standpoint. If they're immediately better.

1048
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 1: And some of these guys that got paid, you're like, well,

1049
01:01:01,720 --> 01:01:05,360
Speaker 1: I'm paying this one guy twenty eight. Marvin Harrison's making six.

1050
01:01:06,120 --> 01:01:10,280
Speaker 1: Who would you rather have right now? Would you rather

1051
01:01:10,360 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: have Marvin Harrison at five and a half six million

1052
01:01:12,720 --> 01:01:14,880
Speaker 1: dollars or Brandon Ayuke? I haven't even seen Marvin Harrison

1053
01:01:14,920 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 1: play a snap in the NFL. I take Marvin Harrison

1054
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,680
Speaker 1: just based on the potential. If he's good at that price,

1055
01:01:21,720 --> 01:01:25,160
Speaker 1: how'd he beat that? Brandon Ayuk was an incredible player

1056
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:30,120
Speaker 1: when he was on the twenty seventh overall contract. He

1057
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,680
Speaker 1: becomes a little more complicated ones like well, is he

1058
01:01:32,720 --> 01:01:37,040
Speaker 1: a top seven eight guy I'm gonna pay? Cd is Like, well,

1059
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:39,960
Speaker 1: CEDI a top two or three wide receiver, And that

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Speaker 1: gets to the argument, like you can't overpay a great player.

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01:01:43,480 --> 01:01:46,760
Speaker 1: Could you overpay Jerry Rice or Randy Moss or Terrell Owens,

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Speaker 1: assuming he wasn't a pain in the butt, right Megatron,

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Speaker 1: I got no problem paying the best of the best.

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Speaker 1: But you also see like when bad teams have a

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Speaker 1: highly paid wide receiver kind of useless like Devonte Atoms. Like,

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Speaker 1: what's the return on investment for the Raiders is not

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01:02:05,880 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: very high because they don't have a quarterback, But you

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01:02:08,800 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: put DeVante Adams on the bills, You're like, shit, be incredible.

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Speaker 1: You said a couple episodes ago you were going to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: I'm pretty well versed in all the favorite local bars

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Speaker 1: and restaurants if you ever need a recommendation. Also wanted

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Speaker 1: to suggest you check out Five Daughters Bakery and their

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01:02:27,120 --> 01:02:31,680
Speaker 1: one hundred layer donuts. Would ten out of ten recommend

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Speaker 1: them for your wedding. It would be a huge hit.

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Speaker 1: Let me, uh, let me write that down. I'll take

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Speaker 1: a screenshot. Actually, full disclosure. As someone I'm in the

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Speaker 1: process of trying to lose about ten to fifteen pounds,

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Speaker 1: I got a sweet tooth. I don't like donuts, never

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Speaker 1: really had or have. My dad was always a sucker

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01:02:56,920 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 1: for donuts. Not a donut guy. I'm just not if

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Speaker 1: I do do sugar in the morning, I do a

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01:03:06,560 --> 01:03:09,520
Speaker 1: waffle like. I like waffles more than pancakes, though I

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01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:14,360
Speaker 1: don't discriminate against pancakes, but I'm not like I like

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Speaker 1: my sugar in the afternoon. I just never really liked donuts.

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Speaker 1: I've always been more of a croissant guy. Even when

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Speaker 1: I was a little kid, we would go to the

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Speaker 1: bakery and my friends, if you're with someone else's parents,

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Speaker 1: they'd all get donuts, like I'd get the croissant. But

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Speaker 1: I do understand a lot of people do like donuts.

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Speaker 1: So I hear you, I'll have to check that out.

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Speaker 1: You think the Sanders family in the Seattle franchise is

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Speaker 1: a good fit. I feel I couldn't see Dion well.

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01:03:45,720 --> 01:03:50,120
Speaker 1: They got wide receivers, so who knows the problem? You

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01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:52,240
Speaker 1: guys aren't gonna be bad enough to be drafting high

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01:03:52,280 --> 01:03:54,840
Speaker 1: and assuming Shador has a good season and is a

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Speaker 1: top five ish pick, I don't know if you guys

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01:03:58,000 --> 01:04:00,560
Speaker 1: are gonna be in the mix. If you win seven

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01:04:00,560 --> 01:04:04,760
Speaker 1: eight games, you're more likely to pick at fifteen than four. Now,

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01:04:04,800 --> 01:04:07,600
Speaker 1: could you trade up? But I think other teams are

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Speaker 1: gonna be interested. I don't know. I can't even pretend

1101
01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:16,280
Speaker 1: to know how the Shadoor Sanders draft process is gonna go.

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Speaker 1: I think we can all acknowledge it could get weird.

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01:04:19,480 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: And would it totally shock you if he just tries

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Speaker 1: to drive him to the Cowboys or something. Not at all.

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01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:28,480
Speaker 1: I know this. There're gonna be a lot of eyeballs,

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01:04:29,280 --> 01:04:31,600
Speaker 1: and there were last year, but even this year, now

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01:04:31,600 --> 01:04:34,040
Speaker 1: that you know these guys are draft eligible. But specifically

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01:04:34,120 --> 01:04:38,560
Speaker 1: the quarterback that Week two game at Nebraska against the

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes clone, Dominic Ryola. I'm pretty excited for that game,

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Speaker 1: Dominic Riola against Shador. I talked to a buddy that

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01:04:49,360 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: went through there on a scouting trip, who thinks they're

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01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:54,080
Speaker 1: gonna be better, who thinks they have a lot more

1113
01:04:54,080 --> 01:04:57,560
Speaker 1: talent this year than they did last year. Interesting to

1114
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:03,280
Speaker 1: fascinate to play. I mean, Colorado's got two potential top

1115
01:05:03,320 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: five picks, Travis Hunter and Shadoor. Good evening, Bro, do

1116
01:05:10,800 --> 01:05:13,960
Speaker 1: you think Zay Flowers will have a thousand yard season?

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01:05:15,440 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: I think Zay Flowers a stud, so yeah, I would

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01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:21,240
Speaker 1: expect that for sure. I think he's going to be

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Speaker 1: a monster this season. Someone told me that last year

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Speaker 1: when he had the fumble in the in the playoff game.

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Speaker 1: In the locker room, he was crying and one of

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Speaker 1: the coaches went up to him and like, you should

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01:05:36,280 --> 01:05:39,200
Speaker 1: be crying. It should hurt, That should mean a lot

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Speaker 1: to you. So that moment should drive him. And last season,

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Speaker 1: I mean, he looked like an ascending star. I don't

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01:05:48,520 --> 01:05:50,720
Speaker 1: know if he'll ever be Tyreek Hill, but he's pretty

1127
01:05:50,720 --> 01:05:54,680
Speaker 1: freaking good. Hard to not watch him last year and go, God,

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Speaker 1: this guy's sweet. Really enjoyed the coaching rankings you did.

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01:06:00,000 --> 01:06:04,440
Speaker 1: I've always thought the NFL coach coaches medium. NBA is

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01:06:04,440 --> 01:06:08,160
Speaker 1: a players medium, Soccer is fifty to fifty. I've also

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01:06:08,200 --> 01:06:11,600
Speaker 1: thought that Belichick is likely the most valuable individual in

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01:06:11,640 --> 01:06:14,840
Speaker 1: the history of the league that you would want to have,

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01:06:15,040 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 1: player or coach. I was wondering if you could do

1134
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Speaker 1: a top five ranking of the top five individuals you'd

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Speaker 1: want for your team if you were starting a franchise,

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Speaker 1: and also if you could do a top five list

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty four. Well, I think you would take

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Speaker 1: Mahomes over any coach. I would take Josh Allen over

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01:06:38,560 --> 01:06:42,280
Speaker 1: any coach. But here's an example. Would you rather have

1140
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson and just pick a coach, Nick Sirianni or

1141
01:06:52,280 --> 01:06:56,640
Speaker 1: who's a terrible team, Dave Canalis, he might be a

1142
01:06:56,640 --> 01:07:00,480
Speaker 1: good coach. Time will tell, Dennis Allen, Or would you

1143
01:07:00,560 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 1: rather have like Kyle Shanahan in Rock Party, or Sean

1144
01:07:05,280 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 1: McVay and Jared Goff or Andy Reid in one of

1145
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Speaker 1: those type of players. To me, you can give me Lamar,

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01:07:16,600 --> 01:07:19,640
Speaker 1: Justin Herbert or some of these players, but if you

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Speaker 1: give me a bad coach, I don't know. You could

1148
01:07:24,880 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 1: argue that if you get one of the top two

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Speaker 1: or three coaches, their value is they're going to find

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Speaker 1: the quarterback and make it happen. So yeah, like you

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Speaker 1: could take Patrick Mahomes with the number one overall draft pick,

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Speaker 1: but if your coach sucks, I'll take my chances. If

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Speaker 1: I got Andy Reid, like I've seen him work with

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01:07:45,320 --> 01:07:47,840
Speaker 1: every quarterback, seen Kyle Shannan and Sean McVay work with

1155
01:07:47,880 --> 01:07:52,040
Speaker 1: a ton of different quarterbacks. I think you could make

1156
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Speaker 1: that argument. And that's like you said that that argument

1157
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Speaker 1: that went viral years ago, Like is Brad Stevens this one.

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01:08:00,880 --> 01:08:02,840
Speaker 1: He was a good coach and then he became a

1159
01:08:02,880 --> 01:08:05,280
Speaker 1: bad coach, and then he became an executive and he

1160
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Speaker 1: won a title, so crazy career, But like, is he

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Speaker 1: more valuable than most NBA players And the answer is no,

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Speaker 1: Like you take the top NBA players over any coach

1163
01:08:16,680 --> 01:08:19,479
Speaker 1: because you cannot win in the NBA without un elite player,

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Speaker 1: and really multiple we're in the NFL. It's like we

1165
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:25,280
Speaker 1: could argue all day long, like is brock Purty the

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Speaker 1: seventh best quarterback? Is he the twelfth best quarterback? But

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Speaker 1: he's got Kyle Shanahan like Jared Goff, what's Sean McVay

1168
01:08:32,439 --> 01:08:34,800
Speaker 1: and Ben Johnson? Jared Goff's kicking ass and taking names?

1169
01:08:35,760 --> 01:08:40,080
Speaker 1: So like, like you said, it's a coaches medium. The

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Speaker 1: top coaches should borderline have equal value. Why if I

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Speaker 1: was like Andy Reid's agent, it's like, oh, okay, I understand

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Speaker 1: Patrick mahone's making forty five to fifty million dollars, but

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Speaker 1: what's Andy's value? Thirty five million? It shouldn't be that

1174
01:08:53,560 --> 01:08:57,439
Speaker 1: much difference if brock Purty next year makes sixty million.

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01:08:57,479 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: If I'm Kyle's agent, well shit, what's it ain't half

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01:09:02,080 --> 01:09:04,400
Speaker 1: what he's making. Is he worth forty five million dollars?

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Speaker 1: What Sean McVay worth to the Rams? Because I saw

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Speaker 1: the Rams before Sean McVay got there. Actually I didn't

1179
01:09:11,560 --> 01:09:15,200
Speaker 1: because I never watched their games because they were completely irrelevant.

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01:09:15,800 --> 01:09:18,559
Speaker 1: You could argue the top coaches in what if Jim

1181
01:09:18,560 --> 01:09:20,559
Speaker 1: Harbaugh immediately has the Chargers good for the next three

1182
01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:25,519
Speaker 1: or four years, what's his worth? I'd say pretty high.

1183
01:09:25,800 --> 01:09:27,960
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean you could argue the first picks

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01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:31,679
Speaker 1: should be coaches. And then even if you don't get

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01:09:32,200 --> 01:09:35,800
Speaker 1: the top ten quarterbacks, well, if I give that top

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01:09:35,840 --> 01:09:41,000
Speaker 1: guy the twelfth best quarterback, he's gonna win, he's gonna win.

1187
01:09:41,479 --> 01:09:44,800
Speaker 1: But if I give an awful coach, I could give

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01:09:44,840 --> 01:09:48,679
Speaker 1: him Montana, I could give him Mahomes, there's no guarantee

1189
01:09:48,680 --> 01:09:53,280
Speaker 1: he's gonna win at all. We've seen high end. I

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01:09:53,280 --> 01:09:58,320
Speaker 1: saw Matt Stafford with the Alliance didn't win. Good question,

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01:09:59,320 --> 01:10:01,519
Speaker 1: when you get a good quarterback with a good coach,

1192
01:10:02,000 --> 01:10:07,559
Speaker 1: you get double digit wins playoffs. I mean, like CJ. Stroud,

1193
01:10:07,960 --> 01:10:09,680
Speaker 1: would he be good anywhere? Or is like does he

1194
01:10:09,720 --> 01:10:13,120
Speaker 1: benefit from Demiko a young star? I'd say it's a combo.

1195
01:10:13,760 --> 01:10:16,280
Speaker 1: CJ's really talented. But if I put him just with

1196
01:10:16,360 --> 01:10:18,960
Speaker 1: a shitty team with no weapons and a bad coach,

1197
01:10:19,040 --> 01:10:22,920
Speaker 1: doesn't know what he's doing. God speed. I think I

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Speaker 1: just talked myself into the first pick in football should

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Speaker 1: be the coach, which is why this sport is so

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01:10:29,600 --> 01:10:32,840
Speaker 1: much fun. Because of the NBA, we could argue, like

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01:10:33,080 --> 01:10:37,640
Speaker 1: what is Kurus value? I'd argue he's got value, but

1202
01:10:37,840 --> 01:10:42,759
Speaker 1: like is he probably overrated because of the guys he's coaching.

1203
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:48,439
Speaker 1: He could not win with bad players, It's impossible. But

1204
01:10:48,520 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 1: in the NFL you see great coaches win with average players.

1205
01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:56,160
Speaker 1: So maybe the first pick should all be coaches. If

1206
01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 1: this was a fantasy draft and not an auction, but

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01:10:59,000 --> 01:11:01,720
Speaker 1: the draft, if you have a top five pick, maybe

1208
01:11:01,760 --> 01:11:03,919
Speaker 1: you should draft a coach and then take the quarterback

1209
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:07,639
Speaker 1: in the second round. Maybe that would be the move. Actually,

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Speaker 1: I think that is the move. The volume