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S and D Bank was 10 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:25,279 Speaker 1: ranked number one in customer satisfaction with retail banking and 11 00:00:25,320 --> 00:00:28,639 Speaker 1: Pennsylvania by j D Power for JD Power two Award 12 00:00:28,680 --> 00:00:37,200 Speaker 1: Information visit JD power dot Com Slash Awards. Welcome back 13 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: on d l Ally Here with Matt Williamson. We are 14 00:00:39,960 --> 00:00:42,559 Speaker 1: live at the U. P M. C Rooney Sports Complex 15 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:45,640 Speaker 1: here on the South side. Guy, because the Steelers wrapping 16 00:00:45,720 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: up date five of the the session of the fifth, 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 1: I guess there's a session three or phase three of 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 1: yeah really is uh and uh, you know we've seeing 19 00:00:56,680 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: kind of guys come and go from these things. Uh, 20 00:00:58,920 --> 00:01:02,080 Speaker 1: players come and go, but the constance have been the 21 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,640 Speaker 1: young guys. And I just want to, uh, you know, 22 00:01:04,680 --> 00:01:08,039 Speaker 1: talk about some of these young guys and some of 23 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: the new guys that the Steelers have brought in to 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:16,360 Speaker 1: the equations, there is a lot of turnover um, you know, 25 00:01:16,800 --> 00:01:18,680 Speaker 1: from the Steelers were able to go out in free 26 00:01:18,680 --> 00:01:22,040 Speaker 1: agency and and bring in guys you know, like a 27 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,839 Speaker 1: Miles Jack or like a James Daniels, Mason Cole and 28 00:01:25,920 --> 00:01:30,720 Speaker 1: you know, Levi Wallace and guys who I don't know 29 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 1: if you looked at those guys outside of Mitch Robinsky 30 00:01:35,400 --> 00:01:37,800 Speaker 1: because he was a second overall pick in the draft 31 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: or a guy like Myles Jack because he had he 32 00:01:40,560 --> 00:01:43,520 Speaker 1: you know, had a high pedigree. Yeah, you know, has 33 00:01:43,840 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: been a Pro Bowl type player, not necessarily household names, 34 00:01:48,960 --> 00:01:54,880 Speaker 1: but going back to our offseason addition discussion, solid players, 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,000 Speaker 1: solid NFL players. Yeah, I mean, I think there's a 36 00:01:57,000 --> 00:01:59,360 Speaker 1: trend with all of them, including Drabinsky and Jack, and 37 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:02,840 Speaker 1: that the contracts are very team friendly and you can 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:05,080 Speaker 1: get out of them if things go awry between now 39 00:02:05,160 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 1: and the time they expire. All these guys are young 40 00:02:09,000 --> 00:02:11,840 Speaker 1: by free agency standard, you know, none of them are 41 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,960 Speaker 1: older guys that are in their thirties or anything like that. 42 00:02:14,960 --> 00:02:16,959 Speaker 1: They're pretty much all coming off their first contract to 43 00:02:16,960 --> 00:02:21,760 Speaker 1: give or take and they have some pedigree, but also 44 00:02:21,880 --> 00:02:24,880 Speaker 1: have a lot of experience, and some of those are 45 00:02:24,960 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: key positions too. I mean, corners aren't easy to find 46 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: quarterbacks and breaking news here okay, uh stefanto it retiring 47 00:02:32,040 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 1: from football. Yes, I got a statement here from Momarcn. 48 00:02:36,040 --> 00:02:38,160 Speaker 1: I went to thanks to Fund for all he did 49 00:02:38,160 --> 00:02:40,600 Speaker 1: for the Steelers during his eight year career in Pittsburgh. 50 00:02:40,600 --> 00:02:43,040 Speaker 1: His success both on and off the field speaks volumes 51 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 1: where he is as a person and a players to 52 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,680 Speaker 1: Fund has always handled himself with class and maturity as 53 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,520 Speaker 1: he continues to be a great husband, father, son, and 54 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:53,680 Speaker 1: family man in his personal life. Now that he has 55 00:02:53,760 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 1: informed us he's retiring from football, we are thrilled to 56 00:02:56,360 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: see what he becomes as a person and a professional 57 00:02:59,280 --> 00:03:02,400 Speaker 1: after graduating from Better Dame this past month. We're excited 58 00:03:02,440 --> 00:03:04,839 Speaker 1: to see what lies ahead in his life and will 59 00:03:04,840 --> 00:03:07,480 Speaker 1: continue to support him in any way we can. Wow. 60 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,799 Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, the young man has gone through so 61 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,359 Speaker 1: much in the last year or so. You feel for him, 62 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: and I'm not speaking for him. I have no idea 63 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,280 Speaker 1: you know what's going through his mind. I'm sure he's 64 00:03:19,280 --> 00:03:22,799 Speaker 1: been very difficult on him, but I'm sure football is 65 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: just not as important anymore, or you know, I mean 66 00:03:24,960 --> 00:03:30,639 Speaker 1: he you know, he's spending his time elsewhere. You know. Um, 67 00:03:30,680 --> 00:03:33,359 Speaker 1: it's unfortunate, you know, because we've been kind of operating, 68 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,000 Speaker 1: you and I, you know, and I don't know about 69 00:03:35,000 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 1: the guys upstairs, that he would be here and then 70 00:03:38,040 --> 00:03:40,160 Speaker 1: he would be an impact player. And we're players. All 71 00:03:40,160 --> 00:03:42,400 Speaker 1: thought he was still going to come back, right right, 72 00:03:42,440 --> 00:03:44,040 Speaker 1: you know, I get it. Maybe he was on the fence. 73 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: And I did know that he was finishing up his 74 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:50,480 Speaker 1: degree at Notre Dame. Had heard that, uh, and and 75 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: that you know, maybe he decided that after finishing his 76 00:03:53,640 --> 00:03:57,840 Speaker 1: degree that for or something else. Yeah, yeah, And and 77 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: what's strange. I'm not strange, but a lot of these 78 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 1: guys this era, compared to twenty years ago whatever, have 79 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:05,800 Speaker 1: plenty of money in the bank they can go to 80 00:04:06,320 --> 00:04:09,360 Speaker 1: explore other options. We've seen guys retire a little younger 81 00:04:09,360 --> 00:04:11,920 Speaker 1: and save their bodies, and they don't want to. You know, 82 00:04:11,960 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: you see these documentaries about you know, older players and 83 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: wheelchairs are not being able to move around, and that's 84 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: part of it too, and they just don't want to 85 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:21,440 Speaker 1: beat themselves up have better quality of life. Late in 86 00:04:21,480 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 1: their lives. But um, he's a really good player. We're 87 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: just talking player. I'm not gonna avoid the elephant in 88 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,000 Speaker 1: the room. They could use him. I mean, he's a 89 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,839 Speaker 1: really good player. And I don't think the Owl's uh 90 00:04:34,120 --> 00:04:36,479 Speaker 1: plug and play compliment. You know, same type of dude, 91 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 1: you know at all. I wonder if they're going to 92 00:04:38,720 --> 00:04:41,839 Speaker 1: be kind of looking around now. Yeah, we mentioned, you 93 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:44,400 Speaker 1: know a couple of guys, one of them signing yesterday 94 00:04:44,440 --> 00:04:47,320 Speaker 1: with Kim Hicks. Yeah, that was an with the Dolphins. 95 00:04:47,839 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 1: Um Eddie Goldman came to mind to another bear. You know, 96 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:54,080 Speaker 1: it's been around. It's interesting. I mean, I think they 97 00:04:54,080 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 1: have high hopes for Leo and louder Milk and a 98 00:04:56,440 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: Lulu coming back, and Wormley had his best season, but 99 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 1: none of them are steff on to it. No, all right, 100 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:06,360 Speaker 1: it's just uh it's it's I mean, this is late 101 00:05:06,360 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: breaking news. So I don't know if you know the 102 00:05:07,839 --> 00:05:10,640 Speaker 1: answer to this, but like, does that open salary cap space? 103 00:05:10,680 --> 00:05:13,200 Speaker 1: Then it opens it clears about I believe four point 104 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: nine million for this year for this year of a sudden. 105 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,240 Speaker 1: I mean I know they had money anyway that they 106 00:05:18,240 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 1: could go get whoever wonderful as anybody in the trade market, 107 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: or are they as happy with what they got you 108 00:05:23,680 --> 00:05:25,280 Speaker 1: I think it will speak volume for what they think 109 00:05:25,279 --> 00:05:28,400 Speaker 1: of Leow and louder Milk in particular, if they stand 110 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,600 Speaker 1: pat yeah. Um, And they may not make a move 111 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,680 Speaker 1: right away. It might be something that they do like 112 00:05:34,760 --> 00:05:36,320 Speaker 1: they don't have to do it right away, you know, 113 00:05:36,360 --> 00:05:38,920 Speaker 1: you just wait and do something before training camp and 114 00:05:38,920 --> 00:05:41,839 Speaker 1: and you know, bring that guy, uh, you know, bring 115 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,479 Speaker 1: whoever you find as a replacement in But certainly, uh, 116 00:05:44,560 --> 00:05:48,600 Speaker 1: there certainly could be a a quality veteran that's released 117 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 1: between now and the start of the season two or 118 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:53,280 Speaker 1: you know, I mean there's there's some other guys will 119 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,719 Speaker 1: pop up, or someone's unhappy the contract that was traded 120 00:05:56,839 --> 00:06:01,520 Speaker 1: or whoever. But um, it's a blow. I mean, that 121 00:06:01,600 --> 00:06:03,679 Speaker 1: certainly is. You know. I've been kind of just brushing 122 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: it off, thinking now he's gonna play, you know, I 123 00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: mean all indicators that I thought were very strong chance 124 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: will play. I just didn't know what you'd see from 125 00:06:11,480 --> 00:06:13,479 Speaker 1: him as a player. How many snaps. I have a 126 00:06:13,520 --> 00:06:16,560 Speaker 1: statement here from Stefan to it as well with respect 127 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: to the Steelers organization, my teammates and coaches. I would 128 00:06:19,320 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 1: like to officially announce that I have come to the 129 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:24,760 Speaker 1: decision to retire from the NFL. I am thankful to 130 00:06:24,800 --> 00:06:27,120 Speaker 1: have had the opportunity to represent the city of Pittsburgh 131 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:29,520 Speaker 1: for the past eight seasons, and I'm so blessed to 132 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,200 Speaker 1: leave this game with my health after the tragic loss 133 00:06:32,200 --> 00:06:34,480 Speaker 1: of my brother Richard and upon completing my degree from 134 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: the University of Notre Dame, I know him being called 135 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 1: the more beyond the sport of football. I want to 136 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: thank everyone in love for the love and support that 137 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:43,960 Speaker 1: they have shown both on and off the field, and 138 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 1: again want to thank the Rooney family, coach Tomlin, an 139 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:49,480 Speaker 1: entire Pittsburgh organization. It was an honor and a privilege 140 00:06:49,520 --> 00:06:53,960 Speaker 1: to play for this historic team, Ghost Steelers. Yeah. I 141 00:06:53,960 --> 00:06:56,479 Speaker 1: mean sometimes life just gets in the way. Yeah, I mean, 142 00:06:56,520 --> 00:07:01,320 Speaker 1: it's get it. Yeah, And I would imagine again just guessing, 143 00:07:01,360 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 1: you know, getting your degree. Being away from the team 144 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,119 Speaker 1: makes it easier to say I understand this life without 145 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:09,040 Speaker 1: football and I like it, and you know, I have 146 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: money in the bank and go from there. But it's 147 00:07:13,080 --> 00:07:15,320 Speaker 1: not good news for the Steeler season as we stand 148 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,600 Speaker 1: here on June one, though it is not because I 149 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:20,280 Speaker 1: think all along they kind of felt pretty good about 150 00:07:20,280 --> 00:07:23,600 Speaker 1: stuff onto It coming back. As you often mentioned, their 151 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:26,360 Speaker 1: moves indicated that moves indicated that they felt he was 152 00:07:26,400 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 1: coming back. Um, obviously he had still been at least 153 00:07:30,040 --> 00:07:33,920 Speaker 1: a little bit on the fence about it, and um, 154 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,840 Speaker 1: you know, so stuff onto It retiring from football at 155 00:07:37,840 --> 00:07:41,000 Speaker 1: the age of yeah, and still last we saw him, 156 00:07:41,000 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: he was a great player too. He's not like he's 157 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:46,760 Speaker 1: starting to decline. Should I come back or not. I mean, 158 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:49,240 Speaker 1: he was as good as I can remember him the 159 00:07:49,320 --> 00:07:53,360 Speaker 1: last we saw him as a hundred percent participant. That's 160 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,560 Speaker 1: that's definitely a blow. I mean, my first thoughts are 161 00:07:56,160 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: we and next year's first round pick might be a 162 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,480 Speaker 1: d lineman. Would you consider trading not a premium pick, 163 00:08:02,520 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: but it's something for somebody on the market now or 164 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: you call in the Eddie Goldman's of the world, and 165 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:09,920 Speaker 1: there's several of those are a little late and guys 166 00:08:09,960 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 1: like that that have been around the block that are 167 00:08:11,600 --> 00:08:14,760 Speaker 1: you know, quality players. Sue, Yeah, that's not a bad one. 168 00:08:14,880 --> 00:08:17,200 Speaker 1: That's not a bad one. He plays a million snaps 169 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: every year and he's still good. Yeah, I mean, you 170 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: could you could go get they just Bucks just signed 171 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:26,520 Speaker 1: somebody instead of Sue. Yes, they signed brand name guy 172 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:28,480 Speaker 1: has been around similar. I forget who it is off 173 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,040 Speaker 1: the top of my head. Signed Hicks. Yeah, yeah, they 174 00:08:31,040 --> 00:08:35,320 Speaker 1: signed Hicks probably on the market. Yeah, that would happened, 175 00:08:35,320 --> 00:08:38,800 Speaker 1: So it would be perfect, one year deal, five million 176 00:08:38,920 --> 00:08:43,400 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah, yeah, that would be useful. Yeah. I'm 177 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:47,080 Speaker 1: a Sue fan. I'd be on the phone with him. 178 00:08:47,280 --> 00:08:49,200 Speaker 1: He can still play. Yeah, I mean, so you can 179 00:08:49,240 --> 00:08:52,480 Speaker 1: do clear some cap space. You do clear now, you know? Now, 180 00:08:52,520 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 1: you know, at least it's not two months from now, 181 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 1: you know. I mean, I guess the timing could have 182 00:08:56,800 --> 00:08:58,840 Speaker 1: been better. You'd love to known before the draft, before 183 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:03,120 Speaker 1: the offseason, but I mean, sooner the better. Yeah. That's 184 00:09:03,120 --> 00:09:05,199 Speaker 1: that's late breaking news here, though. It's a lot to 185 00:09:05,240 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: react to. Yeah. I didn't seem coming. I didn't either. 186 00:09:08,559 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: And you know I I did a radio show for 187 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: a couple of years with Steffen Um, you know, a 188 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: few years ago and got to know him a little 189 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 1: bit and um, just a fine young man, I said, young. 190 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: He's twenty nine now, young, Um, and you know he 191 00:09:25,800 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: wanted to be great, you know, he wanted to be Uh. 192 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:31,320 Speaker 1: You never got the impression that football wasn't important to 193 00:09:31,480 --> 00:09:33,400 Speaker 1: him where he just I mean there's a lot of 194 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: players just played because they're good at it and it 195 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,800 Speaker 1: makes money. But I never got that impression with him. No, 196 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: I never did either. And you know, I think that 197 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: that the shock of the loss of his brother Um 198 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:45,280 Speaker 1: just changed the way you look at the world. You know, 199 00:09:45,320 --> 00:09:48,800 Speaker 1: he was he was in the process. He Tom Reid 200 00:09:48,800 --> 00:09:51,560 Speaker 1: wrote a story about it um on d K Pittsburgh 201 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:55,560 Speaker 1: Sports a couple of months ago about Stefan giving the 202 00:09:55,559 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: eulogy for his brother Um, and he got the chance 203 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: to see the eulogy and how Stefan was talking about, 204 00:10:03,040 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: you know, his brother died just before he had a 205 00:10:05,520 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 1: chance to ask him to be the godfather of his child. Things. 206 00:10:09,960 --> 00:10:14,360 Speaker 1: I mean they were close, yeah, and not the timing 207 00:10:14,400 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: is ever good, but something like that, yeah, somebody, Yeah, absolutely, 208 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,280 Speaker 1: or the rest of the Tewitt family and all the 209 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 1: people that touched and you know, all the people steff 210 00:10:22,559 --> 00:10:24,760 Speaker 1: On has probably been spending a lot of time with 211 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 1: since then, you know. And I'm sure there's some practicality 212 00:10:28,600 --> 00:10:31,839 Speaker 1: of it too, Like am I in football shape? And 213 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:34,640 Speaker 1: I know how far away am I till being able 214 00:10:34,679 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: to do I want to try do I want to work? 215 00:10:36,400 --> 00:10:38,840 Speaker 1: How important to me is now I have this degree 216 00:10:38,920 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 1: and whatever is he's studying, and I want to go 217 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:44,200 Speaker 1: pursue that. And you know, everyone can make their own decisions, 218 00:10:44,240 --> 00:10:46,920 Speaker 1: but I mean I always I'm always looking at it 219 00:10:46,920 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: through a football perspective, and I was certainly counting on him, 220 00:10:50,600 --> 00:10:52,760 Speaker 1: and he's gonna be hard to replace. There are some 221 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 1: options that would be okay, and I do think some 222 00:10:55,679 --> 00:10:58,280 Speaker 1: of the UM guys that are already in the building 223 00:10:58,880 --> 00:11:01,000 Speaker 1: can step up. You know, we even mentioned Adams. I 224 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,199 Speaker 1: think Adams flashed here a little bit too. I mean, 225 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: he's a keeper to me. I think louder Remoke's gonna 226 00:11:06,480 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 1: be a really good player. Um, I just wrote an 227 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: article about Leo. I have mixed feelings about him, but 228 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,000 Speaker 1: he certainly could hit. But he's gonna be different than 229 00:11:15,040 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: to it. And none of those guys I mentioned to 230 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,599 Speaker 1: I guess Adams, none of them are dominant run stuffers. 231 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: But I also think there's a misnomer that the only 232 00:11:24,320 --> 00:11:26,839 Speaker 1: way to stop the run here is put a lot 233 00:11:26,840 --> 00:11:29,320 Speaker 1: of beef in the middle of the defensive line. There's 234 00:11:29,360 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 1: there's more to it than that, you know, not just 235 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,320 Speaker 1: everyone just runs into nose deck. Whatnyfore you know? Right? Yeah? 236 00:11:34,360 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: So interesting. Um, that's breaking news here on Steelers Nation Radio. 237 00:11:39,440 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: Stef onto it announcing his retirement at the age of 238 00:11:42,640 --> 00:11:46,800 Speaker 1: twenty nine. Um, the first big move. This would be 239 00:11:46,840 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: the first big decision for omar Con. I'm sure they're 240 00:11:52,760 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: talking about these things now. Okay, so now we know, 241 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:56,840 Speaker 1: Now what do we do? Now? You're on the phone 242 00:11:56,920 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: with with those who is a good name? You're looking 243 00:11:59,440 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: at those? Yeah, yeah, he could do the exact same role. 244 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: He's just an older version and he's been an unbelievable 245 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,079 Speaker 1: snap eater. But I wouldn't want him to do that here. Durable, tough, 246 00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: you know, somewhat of a mercenary, bouncing between teams, but 247 00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: I mean that's not uncommon at that age either, and 248 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:16,559 Speaker 1: he can still get it done. Yeah, yeah, I think 249 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: that that's what would be super expensive. I would, you know, 250 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,200 Speaker 1: get on the on the phone and you know, what 251 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,560 Speaker 1: do you think about coming to Pittsburgh? Yeah? Right, right right, 252 00:12:23,600 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: And him and Cam could be buds. You know, that 253 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: would be a pretty formidable and no doubt about it 254 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:30,560 Speaker 1: about and he brings some toughness on. There's a lot 255 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:32,560 Speaker 1: of toughness and leadership and some of those type of 256 00:12:32,600 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 1: things too. Yeah, he he would be my first call. 257 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,400 Speaker 1: I would think he would be a guy too that 258 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: would enjoy playing for Mike Tomlin. I would think so too. 259 00:12:39,679 --> 00:12:42,520 Speaker 1: The physicality in which he plays with. He's a throwback type. 260 00:12:43,000 --> 00:12:45,640 Speaker 1: He's about as good of a defensive line prospect as 261 00:12:45,679 --> 00:12:47,599 Speaker 1: I ever saw as a hundred million years ago. But 262 00:12:47,679 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: him and Nebraska is unbelievable. Yeah, yeah, so that would 263 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: be one to look at it. As you mentioned Eddie 264 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:55,200 Speaker 1: Goldman another one. Um, you could take that a different 265 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:57,319 Speaker 1: way too, you could you could, you know, go get 266 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: a nose tackle type. I think Goldman is more of 267 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:03,680 Speaker 1: a note long armed and five is. But yeah, um 268 00:13:04,000 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 1: and play a Lulu more defensive end as well. Things 269 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,880 Speaker 1: of things of that, that's true. You can get a 270 00:13:08,880 --> 00:13:11,280 Speaker 1: bigger version of a Lulu. And plus Adams is there too, 271 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: as of knows, you know, qualities. We'll see. You're right, 272 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: I mean, that's maybe the most interesting storyline now, is okay, Omar, congratulations, 273 00:13:19,520 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 1: But the job, this job happens pretty quick. Yeah, there's 274 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:28,520 Speaker 1: no honeymoon, definitely not that, but we'll see. Yeah, maybe 275 00:13:28,520 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: we even pull up a d line list here at 276 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:32,400 Speaker 1: some point to rest the show and just throw out 277 00:13:32,400 --> 00:13:34,200 Speaker 1: a couple of names. I mean, we've done that before, 278 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 1: but um the mom I'm scanning my brain as we think, too. 279 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:39,959 Speaker 1: Is there anybody that's unhappy with a contract on a 280 00:13:40,160 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: on a team? Um Aaron, Yeah, he'd be cheap a 281 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: pretty good defensive line though. Yeah, that wouldn't be bad. 282 00:13:50,400 --> 00:13:52,360 Speaker 1: That would not be bad. He probably wouldn't object to 283 00:13:52,360 --> 00:13:56,000 Speaker 1: coming to this city either. That would be a defensive line. 284 00:13:56,040 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: How many questions have you gotten already? Said Josh, they signed, 285 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: they make a trade for Aaronson. I'm sure the Rams 286 00:14:01,000 --> 00:14:02,640 Speaker 1: will be thrilled just to give them away after winning 287 00:14:02,640 --> 00:14:05,320 Speaker 1: the super Bowl. That would be one. I might be 288 00:14:05,360 --> 00:14:06,920 Speaker 1: willing to give up a couple of first front draft 289 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:10,040 Speaker 1: picks for boy that to be the best defensive league. Yeah, 290 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean easily in my opinion. Yeah yeah, interesting similar 291 00:14:15,320 --> 00:14:17,480 Speaker 1: not a similar style at all, But who cares? I mean, 292 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,320 Speaker 1: Coachman said the Times that transcendent players, we don't care 293 00:14:21,320 --> 00:14:23,880 Speaker 1: about whether their scheme fits or not. You know, we're 294 00:14:23,880 --> 00:14:26,160 Speaker 1: not saying we know anything, all right, guys, don't get 295 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:29,960 Speaker 1: your hopes. We're just spitting ball in here and reacting 296 00:14:29,960 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: live on the I like the Domakong Suite route. But 297 00:14:34,360 --> 00:14:37,960 Speaker 1: Donald's interesting has some ties to this building. Yeah yeah, 298 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,520 Speaker 1: I just saw him working out here this morning. Yeah, 299 00:14:40,560 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: how about that works Somethinghow why don't you stick around? Yeah, 300 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:46,000 Speaker 1: once you once you hang around, we're gonna take another 301 00:14:46,040 --> 00:14:49,120 Speaker 1: break Matt here, So when we come back, we're gonna 302 00:14:49,120 --> 00:14:52,160 Speaker 1: hear from Kevin Dotson, one of the guys that the 303 00:14:52,200 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: West Euler and o Arthur Modes sat down with earlier 304 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 1: today here on Steve could be a comeback Player of 305 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:59,320 Speaker 1: the Year type of guy too, you know what I mean, 306 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: like pcos to be in a high end guard. Now 307 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,840 Speaker 1: you're talking, Yeah, now you are talking. So we'll hear 308 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,760 Speaker 1: from him when we come back. He is Matt Williams 309 00:15:06,760 --> 00:15:09,920 Speaker 1: and I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to live coverage 310 00:15:09,920 --> 00:15:11,800 Speaker 1: here from the U p m. C Rooney Sports Complex 311 00:15:11,800 --> 00:15:14,320 Speaker 1: here during Steeler O t A sessions. We'll be back 312 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 1: with more right after this Life and Adventure and it's waiting. Hi. 313 00:15:18,320 --> 00:15:20,680 Speaker 1: This is Merril Hodge at S ANDT Bank. They know 314 00:15:20,800 --> 00:15:22,800 Speaker 1: lives for the living. 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Um, 330 00:16:08,440 --> 00:16:10,000 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna have to block stuff onto it and 331 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:14,800 Speaker 1: practicing camp anymore. There's that. So. Um, with all respect 332 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,960 Speaker 1: to Kendrick Green, I know he's getting thrown in there 333 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:19,120 Speaker 1: at the guard position, and it seems like Dotson has 334 00:16:19,120 --> 00:16:23,240 Speaker 1: had a little bit of a tumultuous last year or so. 335 00:16:24,120 --> 00:16:26,480 Speaker 1: I really think he's gonna be a foundation guard for 336 00:16:26,520 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 1: this this team. You know, I have a lot of 337 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:31,080 Speaker 1: high hopes for him to be a quality starter for 338 00:16:31,120 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: a long time. So let's hear what Kevin Dotson had 339 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:39,520 Speaker 1: to say, and we are joined by starting left guard 340 00:16:39,600 --> 00:16:42,920 Speaker 1: of your Pittsburgh Steelers, November sixty nine. Kevin, that's it. 341 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 1: Talk to me, man, how how you feeling? You look 342 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: great by the way. Man ready to get it, get 343 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,640 Speaker 1: his thought up. Let's go. Now. We know it's hot 344 00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:54,280 Speaker 1: to us. We've been talking about the heat. We've been 345 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: having wardrobe chains and stuff like that. I see you 346 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: all here, long sleeve and everything. Man, this he's not 347 00:16:59,160 --> 00:17:01,960 Speaker 1: bothering you at all. Nothing at least bit Hey, they 348 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: got some cool breezes out here. Man, I don't know. 349 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 1: This ain't nothing. Man, I don't need to be passed out. 350 00:17:10,080 --> 00:17:11,800 Speaker 1: But talk to us, man, how's this year's o T 351 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 1: has been going for you? Man? You know this is 352 00:17:13,760 --> 00:17:17,760 Speaker 1: what year three? Now? Man? Growing up fast quick, man. 353 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: I never thoughts but the O T a s man. 354 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,000 Speaker 1: It's always good to start off like this, but it's 355 00:17:25,000 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: gonna be that good on good that makes you better. 356 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: Like my first year, the thing that made me good 357 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 1: was going against two and Cam on practice squad. So 358 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:34,480 Speaker 1: when I got in, if you're not going on a 359 00:17:34,680 --> 00:17:38,840 Speaker 1: level you easy so so that I can't wait to 360 00:17:38,840 --> 00:17:41,359 Speaker 1: get to that part. What did your your off season 361 00:17:41,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: look like? You've obviously had a couple of go rounds 362 00:17:43,240 --> 00:17:45,680 Speaker 1: at this now right um entering into your third year. 363 00:17:45,720 --> 00:17:47,680 Speaker 1: Do you do anything different this offseason? What the last 364 00:17:47,760 --> 00:17:49,760 Speaker 1: last few months I've like for you, definitely had way 365 00:17:49,800 --> 00:17:53,159 Speaker 1: more rehab stuff and I did my first year and 366 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: I got hurt this year, so you know, I had 367 00:17:54,800 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: to do more rehab. But I definitely added more recovery 368 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 1: to my stuff. That kind of something that you learned 369 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 1: when you get around the old heads. They kind of 370 00:18:02,560 --> 00:18:04,239 Speaker 1: tell you how they do they stuff. Gotta take care 371 00:18:04,280 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 1: of that body, man, Come on, that's your money maker. 372 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,720 Speaker 1: So I like, I used to be like real cheap 373 00:18:08,760 --> 00:18:10,919 Speaker 1: with it, Like I don't want to go here and 374 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:13,160 Speaker 1: do this, and like I just go home and take 375 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: a nap. I used to be about coverage. Just take 376 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: a dap. Lord, I've spent some bread on it. I 377 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 1: do four or five things during the week. You know. Yeah, 378 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,359 Speaker 1: it's awesome. That's good. I see the maturity of the groove. 379 00:18:31,600 --> 00:18:34,040 Speaker 1: That's grow right there, man, Let's grow definitely take care 380 00:18:34,080 --> 00:18:35,680 Speaker 1: of your body. Man, Come on, that's how you're gonna 381 00:18:35,680 --> 00:18:38,119 Speaker 1: make the big bugs baby without a doubt. Man. But 382 00:18:38,640 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 1: every year when you come into O t as, we 383 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,919 Speaker 1: always talk about, man, what is it that you're working on? 384 00:18:42,960 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: What is that being that you self evaluated and said, 385 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: you know what, this part of my game I want 386 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: to improve a punt? What is that for you? Right now? 387 00:18:50,040 --> 00:18:54,040 Speaker 1: Mine was just being comfortable and left all my whole lot. 388 00:18:55,640 --> 00:18:57,440 Speaker 1: When they threw me a left, I'm like, I can, 389 00:18:57,680 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: I could do it. But every set was feeling uncomfortable, 390 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,159 Speaker 1: uncomfortable they kind of it's kind of good to not 391 00:19:04,200 --> 00:19:06,720 Speaker 1: be comfortable because you think about it more so you 392 00:19:06,800 --> 00:19:09,760 Speaker 1: think about where your foot should be. Right, I'm just 393 00:19:09,920 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 1: autopolot going, but when I'm on left, I have to 394 00:19:12,400 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: think hands, hands, hands. It was way it was, it 395 00:19:16,400 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 1: was a big chain. But now I'm feeling a little 396 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:19,840 Speaker 1: more comfortable with it, so I could take my sense 397 00:19:19,840 --> 00:19:22,160 Speaker 1: and actually think about what's happening instead of just going 398 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:24,160 Speaker 1: when I say go. A little bit more in debt 399 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,400 Speaker 1: with that too, because I know the casual listener. They're 400 00:19:26,440 --> 00:19:29,360 Speaker 1: like man as a guard. Their feet aren't even staggered 401 00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: like tackles. It should be easy to go right left, man, 402 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,840 Speaker 1: Why is it so difficult playing on one side verse 403 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:36,680 Speaker 1: the other? Just talk about that for the listening right now. 404 00:19:37,200 --> 00:19:41,080 Speaker 1: Being on the right side. Your brain is wired different, 405 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 1: like your legit, your muscles are different. Like when I 406 00:19:43,920 --> 00:19:47,159 Speaker 1: moved to left, I started having pain because my body 407 00:19:47,240 --> 00:19:49,919 Speaker 1: was so configured to it, like this right foot was 408 00:19:50,240 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 1: permit like almost like compractice like to get it, like 409 00:19:54,000 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: started helping it straighten up. Because once I moved to 410 00:19:57,160 --> 00:19:59,199 Speaker 1: the left, that started having a lot of pain, an 411 00:19:59,480 --> 00:20:01,600 Speaker 1: start having a because he just wasn't used to that, 412 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: and like stuff that was I wasn't using was week 413 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: So when I change, you gotta be at a bill 414 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,359 Speaker 1: star building that stuff up. And that's a lot of 415 00:20:09,359 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 1: stuff I was doing over him. I definitely like that, man, 416 00:20:12,320 --> 00:20:13,879 Speaker 1: I like that as well to that. That makes a 417 00:20:13,880 --> 00:20:16,920 Speaker 1: lot of sense. Um new offensive line coach and Pat 418 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,600 Speaker 1: Meyer this year has as how's that process been? Like? 419 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:21,400 Speaker 1: What's it like working with him? Is has he been 420 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,159 Speaker 1: key in that, you know, switching from from right to 421 00:20:23,240 --> 00:20:25,359 Speaker 1: left side? For you? I love him working with him, man, 422 00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:29,240 Speaker 1: He's he's very uh informational. He really he'll really sit 423 00:20:29,240 --> 00:20:33,760 Speaker 1: down and teach you, really help you get what he's 424 00:20:33,760 --> 00:20:37,600 Speaker 1: really talking about. He's not a rah rah yelling type guy, 425 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:40,760 Speaker 1: you know, so he's he's he's really trying to get 426 00:20:40,800 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: you there without having to force you there. You know, 427 00:20:43,840 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 1: he just wants you to to understand where he's coming from. Now, 428 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:49,040 Speaker 1: I like that. Man. And speaking of when with this 429 00:20:49,080 --> 00:20:51,160 Speaker 1: old line, we know you have some new additions as well, 430 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,760 Speaker 1: Man obviously bringing in James Daniels, Mason Cole as well. 431 00:20:54,960 --> 00:20:57,080 Speaker 1: Just talk about man with this group is looking like 432 00:20:57,200 --> 00:21:00,919 Speaker 1: now because it's completely revamped from a year ago, Man With, 433 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:03,280 Speaker 1: you know, multiple new pieces in terms of the starting 434 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:07,040 Speaker 1: five right now. Yeah, but I feel it's kind of 435 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 1: a good We don't really have any real vets and 436 00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: it can be a good thing. It could be a 437 00:21:11,760 --> 00:21:13,199 Speaker 1: bad thing, but I feel like it's a good thing 438 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:15,439 Speaker 1: because we're all coming up at the same time and 439 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:19,680 Speaker 1: even though they're young, but they had experience. So James, 440 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:22,119 Speaker 1: he's been in the league four or five years for 441 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,600 Speaker 1: four years, so they can still teach, but they're still 442 00:21:25,680 --> 00:21:27,679 Speaker 1: learn it at the same time and that helps us. 443 00:21:27,840 --> 00:21:30,719 Speaker 1: If we can all come at the same time, that's perfect. No, absolutely, 444 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:32,960 Speaker 1: one of the things that that, you know, the motes 445 00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:36,400 Speaker 1: and I get questions about on the show. You know, callers, tweeters, 446 00:21:36,400 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: that type of thing, the leadership element of the offense. 447 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:42,199 Speaker 1: You know, Markue's Pouncey and David de Castro aren't here anymore. 448 00:21:42,240 --> 00:21:44,640 Speaker 1: Ben Roethlisberger has retired. As you mentioned, it's a it's 449 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: a very young group. Is that something you guys are 450 00:21:47,760 --> 00:21:49,840 Speaker 1: cognizant of and and in your mind have you seen 451 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,040 Speaker 1: anybody kind of stepping into that that leadership type role 452 00:21:53,080 --> 00:21:57,120 Speaker 1: for the offense? I think, Um, James, he's not He's 453 00:21:57,160 --> 00:22:00,000 Speaker 1: not like a real raw ra guy, but he definitely 454 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,120 Speaker 1: he knows what you're talking about. So we we follow 455 00:22:02,200 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: him when we feel like he really knows when you 456 00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:06,840 Speaker 1: know what somebody, somebody knows what you're talking about, you know, 457 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: so he'll he'll tell you something that could possibly help you. 458 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:13,719 Speaker 1: Are you see at your feet could be messing up? 459 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: Are you You might be going a little too aggressive 460 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,480 Speaker 1: when you could be sitting back a little bit like 461 00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: he does a little little stuff. Yeah. Once again, man 462 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: just had to get my uh. It's the tradition now 463 00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: over here since landing my way. While I'm talking, I'm 464 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 1: trying to conduct the interview always go dukes, you know, 465 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:32,359 Speaker 1: just trying to be respectful in the middle of this 466 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,439 Speaker 1: whole situation here. But yeah, this is what I deal 467 00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:37,119 Speaker 1: with with the boss man, you know. Yeah, rivals right there, man, 468 00:22:37,160 --> 00:22:40,480 Speaker 1: you know as how it goes. Man, But going back 469 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: to this, uh going back to his offense though, Man, 470 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 1: obviously we know this is Matt Canada taking that next 471 00:22:46,119 --> 00:22:49,280 Speaker 1: step right year number two being the O C. Just 472 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,399 Speaker 1: talk about man with that has felt like for you 473 00:22:51,440 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: guys in terms of could you feel any difference in 474 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,960 Speaker 1: the communication. Can you feeling difference in the styles of 475 00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,040 Speaker 1: calls this year in comparison to last year, or even 476 00:22:59,119 --> 00:23:01,120 Speaker 1: just his comfort love as being the O C. Now, 477 00:23:01,680 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 1: I think it's it's one of those things where he 478 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:07,080 Speaker 1: just he can kind of run his offense a little more, 479 00:23:07,320 --> 00:23:10,240 Speaker 1: uh fully the way he wants to. You know, kind 480 00:23:10,240 --> 00:23:12,479 Speaker 1: of last year it was kind of a little bit 481 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: tailoring to Ben, but you got to you gotta do 482 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 1: kind of stuff what he's comfortable with. So you know, 483 00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:20,119 Speaker 1: now he's going to be He had new quarterbacks, he 484 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:22,479 Speaker 1: had everybody. He kind of can run it exactly how 485 00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: he wants to, and this is a chance to really 486 00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: prove hisself, So I think I think that's what he's 487 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:31,879 Speaker 1: looking for this year. More like with that as well too, 488 00:23:32,320 --> 00:23:35,440 Speaker 1: more Matt Canada influenced in the offense, you know, with 489 00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:38,360 Speaker 1: with a younger maybe some more mobility than than Ben 490 00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,359 Speaker 1: had it, you know at his age. That's that's definitely 491 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,520 Speaker 1: one of the main things is just like there's more movement. 492 00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:46,440 Speaker 1: There's a lot of more confusing I believe, I would 493 00:23:46,480 --> 00:23:49,040 Speaker 1: say as a defendant, we hate moving on. Like when 494 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:51,240 Speaker 1: y'all just line up and and play this tough role, 495 00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:53,320 Speaker 1: man like y'll make it simple like that, all that 496 00:23:53,560 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: moving back and forth, motioning formation, that's a nightmare deal. 497 00:23:57,720 --> 00:23:59,439 Speaker 1: We don't want to deal with that stuff, man, not 498 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,919 Speaker 1: at all. But um, we know we're gonna have new 499 00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:04,160 Speaker 1: quarterbacks this year, right, or at least a new quarterback 500 00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 1: in comparison to being Roethlisberger was because now he's retired. 501 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,600 Speaker 1: Just talk about, man, your initial impression of those three 502 00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:13,159 Speaker 1: guys in their competition, not necessarily seeing Hey, man, I 503 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,359 Speaker 1: think this guy's playing better with Jess. What you like 504 00:24:15,480 --> 00:24:18,680 Speaker 1: about each of those guys in your interactions with them? 505 00:24:18,760 --> 00:24:21,919 Speaker 1: You know, I always like Rudolph, I like him. We 506 00:24:21,960 --> 00:24:24,520 Speaker 1: always like even when I was in practice squad with 507 00:24:24,520 --> 00:24:27,159 Speaker 1: with him, so I know him. Uh, Mitch, He's been 508 00:24:27,160 --> 00:24:29,840 Speaker 1: doing good since it being out here. Everybody, every quarterback 509 00:24:29,840 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: back there I feel comfortable with. Like I didn't care 510 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,040 Speaker 1: who was back there, Like I'll be telling people and 511 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:40,479 Speaker 1: like I don't care if they put Nagat Uh yeah, hey, 512 00:24:40,560 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna block the same or whoever. Man. So I'm 513 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: happy for with everybody who anybody who back there, So 514 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm cool with it. Ok, Okay, last one I've got 515 00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 1: for you. I gotta ask about training camp and Latrobe 516 00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: and St. Vincent College. Right, Um, this is gonna be 517 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 1: your first time there. The last two years have been 518 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 1: here in hines Field. Is there any excitement amongst that 519 00:24:59,640 --> 00:25:01,720 Speaker 1: or I'm around the team, what's the vibe on going 520 00:25:01,760 --> 00:25:03,760 Speaker 1: back to the Trump I feel like for a lot 521 00:25:03,760 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: of us just this is gonna be our first time 522 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:07,080 Speaker 1: getting a real experience. There's a lot of teams, a 523 00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,080 Speaker 1: lot of people on the team never been in the trope, 524 00:25:09,119 --> 00:25:11,800 Speaker 1: so take more than half. I've been. I've been a 525 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 1: Stiller fan my whole life, and I never got to 526 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:17,760 Speaker 1: go to the trope stuff. It's the rate of passage 527 00:25:18,440 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: that is a real Stiller, you know kind of thing. Well, 528 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:25,040 Speaker 1: the last question I have for you is basically, going 529 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:28,920 Speaker 1: into this season, what are your goals for you individually? Man? 530 00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:30,760 Speaker 1: As an offensive lineman. Man, you're trying to be a 531 00:25:30,800 --> 00:25:33,399 Speaker 1: pro bowler, all like, what's what's when you go to 532 00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:34,879 Speaker 1: see where do you say? You know what? This is 533 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: what I want to compass this season. I definitely have 534 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,680 Speaker 1: the pro Pro Bowl goal. You know, I've been having 535 00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,880 Speaker 1: that since started. Uh. I told me and my friend 536 00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: definitely talented, and that fact that's never been That's the 537 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: main thing. I feel like I haven't shown my true potential. 538 00:25:49,600 --> 00:25:52,160 Speaker 1: Like you know, people tell tell you have good potential. 539 00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:54,280 Speaker 1: I want to be able to prove it to everybody 540 00:25:54,320 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: like you know, um and like me and my friends. 541 00:25:57,200 --> 00:26:00,720 Speaker 1: I got a friend in the Dolphins, Robert Hunt, you know, 542 00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:06,600 Speaker 1: one who got took me and him like soon we 543 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,560 Speaker 1: got drafted. We made that pack a hall of fame. 544 00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 1: Let's go, hey, we gotta start. You gotta started up sometimes. 545 00:26:12,800 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: So I think this could be the year now. I 546 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 1: like it, man, I like it, and we definitely hope 547 00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:18,880 Speaker 1: so as well. Man, because all of us are big 548 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:20,360 Speaker 1: fans of what you've been able to do. Since you've 549 00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: been here and we know you still got a lot 550 00:26:22,320 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: more to prove out there. Man. So Kevin Dyson, Ladies 551 00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: and gentlemen, number sixty nine your program, but number one man. 552 00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:35,520 Speaker 1: That was Kevin Dotson earlier today with west Ulder and 553 00:26:35,640 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: Arthur Moats as they talked about things are going for 554 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,800 Speaker 1: the young it's no a third year guy. Yeah, and 555 00:26:42,840 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: there's no more excuses. It's times that you know, I 556 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:47,880 Speaker 1: mean the whole line in general, I say this all 557 00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:51,680 Speaker 1: the time has a weird and remarkable you know, um 558 00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: blend of youth and experience, and it applies to him 559 00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:58,119 Speaker 1: as well. No more excuses and no more boy, that 560 00:26:58,200 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 1: was a nice steal of a guy. Didn't go to 561 00:27:00,160 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: the combine, you know, that looks like a nice pick. No, 562 00:27:02,160 --> 00:27:05,119 Speaker 1: he's gonna come in and be a foundational player on 563 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,399 Speaker 1: a young offense, a guy they run behind on fourth 564 00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: and one. I mean his protection on his best days 565 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,040 Speaker 1: were very good. Um. I still have high hopes, you know, 566 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,320 Speaker 1: but as Moates said, you know he still has a 567 00:27:16,320 --> 00:27:18,800 Speaker 1: lot to prove. There's a lot to work on here. Yeah. Yeah, 568 00:27:19,000 --> 00:27:23,520 Speaker 1: if you actually if you look at their offensive line starters, um, 569 00:27:23,680 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 1: he is he has fewer starts than Dan Moore Jr. Yeah, 570 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:30,639 Speaker 1: I kind of think of him is like the foundation 571 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,439 Speaker 1: in some ways, that's the guy you could count on 572 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: and rookie in ten games last year his fourteen career starts. 573 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, So not that he's getting old, but all 574 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,199 Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's year three. Time to put up 575 00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,119 Speaker 1: a shot up hes seventeen game starter and be a 576 00:27:45,200 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 1: quality player. And I think he's very capable. Yeah, yeah, 577 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:50,960 Speaker 1: I think that's one of the things that Um, it 578 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: was kind of disappointing that I think that the organization 579 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:55,840 Speaker 1: last year that was he was not able to come 580 00:27:55,880 --> 00:27:59,000 Speaker 1: back after suffering that injury and the length of injury 581 00:27:59,040 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 1: in Week ten, I felt like they were counting on 582 00:28:01,119 --> 00:28:03,199 Speaker 1: them the last seven games of the season and the 583 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,359 Speaker 1: playoff game. Like that's a lot of time to miss. Um. 584 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: And I know it's small potatoes, but I mean, at 585 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:10,400 Speaker 1: least I mean, if you're just looking at the optimistic 586 00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,760 Speaker 1: side of that, a guy like Leglue got a chance 587 00:28:12,800 --> 00:28:14,760 Speaker 1: and now he might have an NFL career because of it. 588 00:28:14,840 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 1: I mean, he wanted him as a backup though, but 589 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,080 Speaker 1: still he showed you he can play a little bit. Yeah, 590 00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 1: So there are more guys in the mix than just 591 00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,919 Speaker 1: those five or six that we talked about all the 592 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:26,360 Speaker 1: time with the old line. Yeah, I expect the offensive 593 00:28:26,400 --> 00:28:28,960 Speaker 1: line to be better. I think it'd be better. I 594 00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,639 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna be a top half of the 595 00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: league line. That would shock me, but I think it'll 596 00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,840 Speaker 1: be better. But if it's in the top you know, 597 00:28:34,920 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: last year, if we looked at the the advanced metrics 598 00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,120 Speaker 1: from football outsiders, and I think they had best line. 599 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 1: If they can get that up to twenty two this year, yeah, 600 00:28:44,480 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: there you go. I mean, let alone a fifteen ish 601 00:28:46,840 --> 00:28:48,880 Speaker 1: or something like that, that might be a little optimistic. 602 00:28:49,320 --> 00:28:51,080 Speaker 1: I had a couple of old line coaches though, too. 603 00:28:51,120 --> 00:28:53,000 Speaker 1: I mean I think some stability there would be good. 604 00:28:53,040 --> 00:28:55,760 Speaker 1: And you know as well, and you know, uh different 605 00:28:55,840 --> 00:29:00,360 Speaker 1: quarterback will having a massive impact and in both positive 606 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,440 Speaker 1: and negative you know, in terms of protection and uh 607 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 1: the right calls and things like that too. So it's 608 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:09,400 Speaker 1: a that the you know that that they're able to 609 00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 1: do things schematically different than the way they were able 610 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: to last year. What they were able to, you know, 611 00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:19,959 Speaker 1: you couldn't do as many rollouts. You couldn't do I mean, 612 00:29:20,000 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: like play action is gonna spike dramatically and that helps 613 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,440 Speaker 1: a no line of time, you know, in protection all 614 00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,840 Speaker 1: those things like you said, yeah, misdirection is going to 615 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: help the run game. And you know, putting putting those 616 00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,200 Speaker 1: defenders in conflict is the words you're gonna hear a lot, 617 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 1: and that helps a line. And the thing that I 618 00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:37,640 Speaker 1: like the best about that line is that it's young 619 00:29:38,600 --> 00:29:40,800 Speaker 1: and we'll have an opportunity to grow together. Yeah. I 620 00:29:40,800 --> 00:29:44,280 Speaker 1: think that's important too, you know, just the the continuity 621 00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,800 Speaker 1: aspect is super important for offensive lineman for a multitude 622 00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:50,920 Speaker 1: of reasons, just knowing how different people handle stunts. And 623 00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:53,800 Speaker 1: I keep referencing these podcasts I've been listening to, but 624 00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,720 Speaker 1: Mitchell Schwartz was on one the other day and this 625 00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,880 Speaker 1: answering listening listener questions, and he said, people don't think 626 00:29:59,880 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 1: of think of things like this, like with continuity. Like 627 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:06,000 Speaker 1: my guard to my left, he was a right tackle 628 00:30:06,360 --> 00:30:07,760 Speaker 1: and a few of them, some of them have a 629 00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: really wide stance, And if he has a really wide stance, 630 00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: he might step on my toes, right, you know what 631 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 1: I mean, Like I gotta be a little more conscious 632 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 1: of it. Little things like that, Right, and we're tripping 633 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: all over each other. You know, like everyone has a 634 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: slightly different style and they're not all the same. So 635 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 1: I need to adjust to him because he's gonna be 636 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 1: a foundation piece to his you know, the Schwartz is left. Yeah, 637 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: so you know, little things like that, And and I 638 00:30:31,400 --> 00:30:33,600 Speaker 1: think that, you know, when you look at this this line, 639 00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,840 Speaker 1: the youth, I mean they they're built to move. They're 640 00:30:38,840 --> 00:30:41,480 Speaker 1: built a block on the move. Yeah, I think so too. 641 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 1: I mean I always looked at thoughts and it's just 642 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:45,920 Speaker 1: a it is more of a pile mover, you know, 643 00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,200 Speaker 1: big body guy. But he has a lot better feat 644 00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 1: than that. He's better in protection than that. I think 645 00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 1: that was selling him short when he when he drafted him, 646 00:30:52,080 --> 00:30:53,560 Speaker 1: I thought he was just kind of a masher because 647 00:30:53,560 --> 00:30:56,280 Speaker 1: he had a mentality of finishing, and I kind of 648 00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: lumped him in the old school guard bracket. But I 649 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:04,000 Speaker 1: think they very much a stressing movement skills from their 650 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 1: offensive line and local athletic Yeah, yeah, they don't. They 651 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:09,920 Speaker 1: don't need the big why But with all with all 652 00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:12,600 Speaker 1: respect to like a Ramote Foster, he wouldn't fit in nowadays. 653 00:31:12,640 --> 00:31:16,760 Speaker 1: You know, that's what Zach Banner wouldn't know. That's a 654 00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:18,520 Speaker 1: good point. That's a good point. I think they want 655 00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: these guys moving laterally pulling you know, a lot of 656 00:31:21,480 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: stuff on the move, which makes a lot of sense. Yeah. Absolutely, 657 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,040 Speaker 1: But we're gonna take another break. He is Matt Williamson. 658 00:31:27,120 --> 00:31:29,120 Speaker 1: I am Dale Lali. You're listening to the drive here 659 00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,720 Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. When we come back, we'll talk 660 00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: a little bit more about that impact of the stuff 661 00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 1: onto It retirement right after this, Welcome back on Dale 662 00:31:40,720 --> 00:31:44,000 Speaker 1: Lally here, Matt Williamson and Matt of course, the big 663 00:31:44,040 --> 00:31:46,239 Speaker 1: news of the day is stuff on to It has 664 00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: announced his retirement from the Pittsburgh Steelers. And well that 665 00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:55,560 Speaker 1: may asked beg the question where did the Steelers go 666 00:31:55,720 --> 00:31:58,440 Speaker 1: from here? Let me read down this list. I'm available 667 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:02,160 Speaker 1: free agent. I think doing nothing is an option as well. 668 00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,560 Speaker 1: It is, you know, I mean usually they keep six. 669 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,680 Speaker 1: They have six guys. I think they like that are 670 00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: probably going to make this team no matter what. But um, 671 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:13,760 Speaker 1: you know, why would you not kick the tires on somebody? Yeah, 672 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:18,000 Speaker 1: So going down the list here, Corey Peters, Yeah, no, 673 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 1: I mean that doesn't do much for me. Jack Crawford, No, 674 00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:26,480 Speaker 1: this isn't silence in the Lamb right, uh, Matt Dickerson, 675 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: her John Kaminski, Jonathan Bullard, Mike Pennell. None of those 676 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:40,200 Speaker 1: are better than what they have. Tyler Davison, Tyler Davidson, No, 677 00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:45,440 Speaker 1: he've been around for him. Brandon Williams. Maybe, I mean, 678 00:32:45,480 --> 00:32:47,560 Speaker 1: if you want to tackle right, I mean, if he 679 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,040 Speaker 1: can pass the physical and all those things. I think 680 00:32:50,080 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: he had some lower body injuries and he's three d 681 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:55,160 Speaker 1: fifty pounds or whatever, so he would be a true 682 00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:59,240 Speaker 1: nose and that would make some sense. Xavier Kelly was 683 00:32:59,280 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: another raven. Yeah, not so much. How about Justin Zimmer 684 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,640 Speaker 1: from the Bills And I don't know, I'm not familiar 685 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: with Mr Zimmer's work. How about Star lout to l 686 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:13,920 Speaker 1: from the Bills maybe, Um, the star is kind of 687 00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:15,600 Speaker 1: off him a little bit, you know, I mean he 688 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:17,959 Speaker 1: was the shine is off the star a little bit 689 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: with him. He had a very good early career. Now 690 00:33:21,240 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 1: he doesn't seem to be super sought after, partially because 691 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,239 Speaker 1: he's really only a nose and he's missed some time 692 00:33:26,280 --> 00:33:28,760 Speaker 1: in the last couple of years. But I mean, at 693 00:33:28,800 --> 00:33:34,720 Speaker 1: the right price, I wouldn't balk at It's okay, the 694 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,880 Speaker 1: guy that really interests me again. Is Eddie Goldman? Yeah, 695 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:42,160 Speaker 1: he's younger, do you think too? Yeah, he's like six 696 00:33:42,200 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 1: five with long arms, but three fifty, you know, I 697 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:47,440 Speaker 1: mean he doesn't look like a Hampton Steed knows, but 698 00:33:47,560 --> 00:33:50,120 Speaker 1: that's what he is. You know. He's not gonna run run, 699 00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 1: plays down with the sideline. But he's still good, you know, 700 00:33:55,280 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 1: Like that's what I'm trying to figure out to nose tackles, 701 00:33:59,640 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 1: aren't They're not for everyone. Every everybody uses him. Um, 702 00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,720 Speaker 1: there's more supply than the man. Yeah, Goldman is not 703 00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,520 Speaker 1: going to give you a ton on the pass. Rushman 704 00:34:08,920 --> 00:34:11,640 Speaker 1: a stiff. I can't remember what his story was last year. 705 00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:13,960 Speaker 1: I think he missed a fair amount of time. So 706 00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:15,800 Speaker 1: a lot of these guys might have a lingering injury 707 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:18,200 Speaker 1: or something, and you know, so that is a hard 708 00:34:18,239 --> 00:34:21,280 Speaker 1: thing for us to comment on. But on paper, he's 709 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 1: clearly the best option and maybe even like a two 710 00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: year deal. Yeah, I would sign him from multiple yea. 711 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 1: He's twenty eight years old, so you're still going to 712 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,240 Speaker 1: get good years out of him. Like Brandon Williams is interesting, 713 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:34,320 Speaker 1: but he's a one year right you know, Red Yeah Reynolds, 714 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:38,200 Speaker 1: you know, fifteen snaps a game guy Larry Ogunjobi if 715 00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,880 Speaker 1: he could pass a physical. Because he couldn't do that, 716 00:34:40,880 --> 00:34:42,680 Speaker 1: where did he go? He went? The Bears gave him 717 00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:45,759 Speaker 1: pretty good money as soon as free agency opened. He's 718 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:49,360 Speaker 1: also a pass rusher. He's a well rounded defensive tackle, 719 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:52,879 Speaker 1: you know, but he could certainly hold the nose. Um. 720 00:34:52,920 --> 00:34:56,160 Speaker 1: Maybe his injuries are better now than they were. That 721 00:34:56,200 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 1: was when the free agency opened, I mean two months 722 00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: ago something like that, So they the Bears obviously didn't 723 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,319 Speaker 1: have homework to sign him that. They couldn't have thought, boy, 724 00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:07,759 Speaker 1: it's a catastrophic injury. So and then all of a 725 00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:09,439 Speaker 1: sudden things dried up. There's not a lot of teams 726 00:35:09,480 --> 00:35:11,759 Speaker 1: in the market to sign for you agents right now. 727 00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: And he doesn't hurt your None of these guys do 728 00:35:14,080 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: what your compic equation. That's a good one. Yeah. How 729 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:21,440 Speaker 1: about Malik Jackson. I liked him, but I liked him 730 00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:24,440 Speaker 1: when he was a Bronco, before he was before he 731 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,680 Speaker 1: was a Jag. Yeah, he was sort of a D 732 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,640 Speaker 1: n D tackle tweener type. I mean, he's not a nose. 733 00:35:32,239 --> 00:35:36,360 Speaker 1: How about Antoine Woods. He's more of a nose, but 734 00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:38,920 Speaker 1: I'm not sure he's better. Yeah, yeah, I don't know 735 00:35:38,960 --> 00:35:42,680 Speaker 1: if he's a lot better what they have. Um, you 736 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,359 Speaker 1: want to get that room better. I mean, if you're 737 00:35:44,400 --> 00:35:46,480 Speaker 1: six guys, you'd like to keep the seventh one. He 738 00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:53,800 Speaker 1: better be a guy that plays a fair amount. Joseph's 739 00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,600 Speaker 1: yeah right, nose tackles out there again. I mean he 740 00:35:56,880 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: can still suck up a double team. I mean that's 741 00:35:59,520 --> 00:36:02,239 Speaker 1: for sure. He's the same comments as Brandon Williams, I 742 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:05,680 Speaker 1: would say, had a good career, Um, big time runs offer. 743 00:36:07,680 --> 00:36:10,719 Speaker 1: I hesitate to mention this guy. But because he's Bounce 744 00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: straw and you want to talk about a guy who 745 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: has been a kind of a mercenary Sheldon Richardson, Yeah, 746 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: I don't know that he fits. I don't either. I mean, 747 00:36:20,719 --> 00:36:23,920 Speaker 1: on his best day, he was a three technique penetrator type. 748 00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,719 Speaker 1: He's not built like a Tuit or a Hayward either. 749 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 1: He's a little more low to the ground. I don't 750 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,640 Speaker 1: think Christian Ringo and my John Ringo. Um, I don't 751 00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:39,560 Speaker 1: know much about him. Okay, he's thirty, he's been around. Yeah, 752 00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:42,959 Speaker 1: Danny Shelton, he was that guy, but he was never 753 00:36:42,960 --> 00:36:46,480 Speaker 1: that good at that good Yeah right, Uh, would you 754 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:50,000 Speaker 1: take a shot on Robert in d K. He has 755 00:36:50,040 --> 00:36:52,640 Speaker 1: a lot off the field stuff. Yeah, and I don't 756 00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:56,480 Speaker 1: think he's for them. Um and Dominican Sue. We mentioned 757 00:36:57,000 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 1: that one. I like a lot. Oh, I know he's 758 00:36:58,840 --> 00:37:01,040 Speaker 1: been playing forever, but he's a play him pretty well. 759 00:37:01,440 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: And again he plays a ton of snaps. I would 760 00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,480 Speaker 1: think he'd like a scenario where he doesn't have to 761 00:37:05,480 --> 00:37:09,520 Speaker 1: play of the snaps. Um. One name that won't be 762 00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:12,800 Speaker 1: on that list is a lot of talk that Derrick 763 00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:16,680 Speaker 1: Wolfe could get cut. Yeah, and he's a quality, tough guy, 764 00:37:16,840 --> 00:37:18,640 Speaker 1: you know, the one on your you'd rather play with 765 00:37:18,680 --> 00:37:20,600 Speaker 1: than against type of dude, you know, And it'd be 766 00:37:20,640 --> 00:37:24,880 Speaker 1: an interesting road staying healthy. Yeah, of course, of course. Uh. 767 00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:29,080 Speaker 1: Steve McClendon. Wow, he's thirty six. I know he's all right, 768 00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:33,600 Speaker 1: all right, but obviously familiarity. I know he's a nose. Um. 769 00:37:33,640 --> 00:37:36,200 Speaker 1: You know, you're looking to get snaps a game out 770 00:37:36,200 --> 00:37:38,840 Speaker 1: of a gun. So there's like five of them that 771 00:37:38,920 --> 00:37:41,480 Speaker 1: are pure noses that we mentioned that you could kind 772 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:44,719 Speaker 1: of sift through the red flags. Yeah, you know, it's 773 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:49,280 Speaker 1: like to me, Sue and Goldman and Okajobi are different 774 00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,640 Speaker 1: than that, Like they're good players. If they're right, they're 775 00:37:52,680 --> 00:37:55,000 Speaker 1: gonna play a lot of snaps and be you know, useful. 776 00:37:55,200 --> 00:37:56,799 Speaker 1: The fact that nobody as signed him to this point 777 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 1: tells me that maybe they aren't quite I wonder if 778 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,680 Speaker 1: SU's even like they can retirement, you know what I mean. 779 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:05,040 Speaker 1: I wouldn't think Goldman is not at his age right, 780 00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:06,440 Speaker 1: and it's not like he's got a fortune in the 781 00:38:06,440 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: bank by NFL standards either, But he's interesting. Yeah, so 782 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:13,000 Speaker 1: your bet do you think they would add a guy? 783 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: I think he at least kicked the tires. I think 784 00:38:15,840 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: all those guys, yeah, yeah, because if again, if you 785 00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:20,920 Speaker 1: can get better, right, that's the thing, that's that's what 786 00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 1: you want to do there, because now you know, and 787 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,840 Speaker 1: the what we're not privy to is what would you 788 00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: just listen? There maybe eight names, including the linvill Joksis 789 00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:32,200 Speaker 1: and Brandon Williams of the of the world that have 790 00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,680 Speaker 1: had good careers. We don't know that those players still 791 00:38:35,680 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: want to play. What injuries are they fighting? Do they 792 00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:40,839 Speaker 1: have a bottom line dollar that they'll only play for? 793 00:38:41,239 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: Do they not want to be involved in camp? Like 794 00:38:43,040 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 1: if I'm on Lynvel Joseph, I'm not real psyched about 795 00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: going to a Trope for in the nine degree son 796 00:38:49,760 --> 00:38:52,399 Speaker 1: you know is Sime and I'll show up and I'll 797 00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:55,520 Speaker 1: stop the run. Casey Hampton used to say about his position, 798 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:59,279 Speaker 1: it's not real hard. I go left, I go right. Yeah, 799 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:01,560 Speaker 1: And that's what Lynn Bell Joseph for Brandon Williams would 800 00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,040 Speaker 1: be that they need to be doing sprints and you know, 801 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: killing themselves in the summer probably not. Well, that's one 802 00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: thing that Tomlin really good job of of kind of 803 00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,319 Speaker 1: taking care of his veteran players. He does, I think 804 00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:19,479 Speaker 1: not all all fans love that he's given. You gotta 805 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:22,280 Speaker 1: manage these guys a little bit, not a lot. Yeah, 806 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,799 Speaker 1: and sports science has come a long way too. That's 807 00:39:24,840 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 1: why they have these trackers on them, Like, hey, you're 808 00:39:26,800 --> 00:39:29,040 Speaker 1: beating these guys up too much. It's now a negative 809 00:39:29,320 --> 00:39:32,480 Speaker 1: impact to have them out your working. I mean, saving 810 00:39:32,480 --> 00:39:35,120 Speaker 1: their bodies is unbelievably important. Yeah. No, I think this 811 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,680 Speaker 1: would be a friend This should be a friendly destination 812 00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 1: for any of them. So because there's you know, I mean, 813 00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 1: you're gonna be part of a good defense. You're gonna 814 00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:45,759 Speaker 1: be part of a defense that allows you to get 815 00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: after the pastor and it's cam and watch show you 816 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: know they're gonna you'll be a piece, you'll be a 817 00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:53,759 Speaker 1: spoken the wheel, and I think that's a positive. And 818 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:55,640 Speaker 1: and there's it's a two way street to I mean, 819 00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: I'm sure people have figured this out by now, but 820 00:39:57,960 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: I'm sure the agent for five of those players has 821 00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,880 Speaker 1: called the Steelers in the last hour. Yeah, you like, 822 00:40:03,920 --> 00:40:08,160 Speaker 1: hey guys, Yeah, my guys in good shape. Yeah. And 823 00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:10,000 Speaker 1: a lot of those things are agent relations you know, 824 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:12,120 Speaker 1: if the Steelers have a great relationship with an agent 825 00:40:12,160 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: that they trust, Oh, we believe that your guys in 826 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:17,480 Speaker 1: shape because you've never screwed us over before, you know. So, Um, 827 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,080 Speaker 1: that's kind of how that works too. I'm sure people 828 00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,720 Speaker 1: are calling the Steelers. Yeah, I'm just look, I wonder 829 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:24,480 Speaker 1: who's tradeable too, Like I'm not psyched about giving up 830 00:40:24,480 --> 00:40:27,399 Speaker 1: future picks or anything like that, but deserved a d 831 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,920 Speaker 1: tackle that I can't think of that is on the market. 832 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:32,319 Speaker 1: I know Fletcher's Cox's name was out there a while ago, 833 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:35,160 Speaker 1: but they extended him. That's not going to happen. Um. 834 00:40:35,360 --> 00:40:39,040 Speaker 1: Don mckensu is a bus cook. I don't know much 835 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:41,160 Speaker 1: about agents. I'm just trying to do. Yeah, a lot 836 00:40:41,200 --> 00:40:43,719 Speaker 1: of these guys have good relationships with the Seelers, A 837 00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,959 Speaker 1: bus cooks the guy that. Yeah, I'm sure they've worked 838 00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,479 Speaker 1: with them before, so Sue would be interesting. He made 839 00:40:50,920 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: last year. Um, he still carries a six point eight 840 00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 1: million capit for the for Tampa for Tampa, Like, I 841 00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:00,600 Speaker 1: wonder what he'd be asking. He had his his base 842 00:41:00,680 --> 00:41:05,399 Speaker 1: salary last year was his cap it was three point 843 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,680 Speaker 1: two million, His bass salary was one and a half. 844 00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:09,880 Speaker 1: And you get a little signing bonus there. And they 845 00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,000 Speaker 1: give avoidable years a four avoidable years, so if you 846 00:41:13,120 --> 00:41:15,440 Speaker 1: just opened five from to it, he's a one year 847 00:41:15,520 --> 00:41:18,800 Speaker 1: ten point two million dollar deal. Okay, I was thinking 848 00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:21,920 Speaker 1: like spending four on one of these guys. Still you 849 00:41:21,920 --> 00:41:23,560 Speaker 1: can still work it that way. You can still work 850 00:41:23,560 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: at that again if you want to use avoidable years 851 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,319 Speaker 1: with that um or an option or some sort or 852 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:32,480 Speaker 1: interesting Now those names aren't bad. Ogan Joby to me 853 00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,279 Speaker 1: is interesting. Actually is a one year nine million dollar deal. 854 00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:37,520 Speaker 1: So you could think it afford it. They can afford it, Yeah, 855 00:41:37,760 --> 00:41:40,400 Speaker 1: and he would be helpful, no doubt about that. He 856 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:43,400 Speaker 1: would fit any scheme and I like it. Yeah, So 857 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: we'll see what over here over the next week or so. 858 00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:48,000 Speaker 1: That's the thing. You know last year, if you look 859 00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: at what the Steelers did, this is right around the 860 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:54,440 Speaker 1: time last year was actually right after Mini camp that 861 00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: they found out that David DeCastro was done. I guess 862 00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 1: it was about this And then they went out and 863 00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:01,840 Speaker 1: signed Trey Turner immediately after that because he cleared up 864 00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:04,799 Speaker 1: some additional cap space. Yeah, and you you had a hole, 865 00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:07,440 Speaker 1: you needed the guy. They were a lot cap tighter 866 00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,879 Speaker 1: at that point than they were this offseason. But still yeah, 867 00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,080 Speaker 1: I mean, unfortunately those things happen. Some of these guys 868 00:42:13,120 --> 00:42:15,120 Speaker 1: take a while to decide what their future is or 869 00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,719 Speaker 1: medical determines a forum like with David, and you know 870 00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:21,719 Speaker 1: that that's rough. The Steelers went into this week with 871 00:42:21,800 --> 00:42:24,960 Speaker 1: about twelve million in cap space, so the the addition 872 00:42:25,440 --> 00:42:28,160 Speaker 1: additional space to get from from two it's retirement gets 873 00:42:28,160 --> 00:42:31,239 Speaker 1: some up about seventeen. Again, you can afford to do 874 00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,959 Speaker 1: some things here, I would guess, are all the draft 875 00:42:33,960 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 1: pick signed? Not yet? Okay, I mean there's still some 876 00:42:36,120 --> 00:42:37,799 Speaker 1: money for that. I still have to put sign picket 877 00:42:37,880 --> 00:42:40,920 Speaker 1: and I believe Calvin Austin. So they probably wanted seven 878 00:42:40,960 --> 00:42:43,399 Speaker 1: of that for draft picks and stuff to do during 879 00:42:43,400 --> 00:42:45,480 Speaker 1: the year, and that gives you tend to play with, 880 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:47,719 Speaker 1: which you could roll over, and you know, it's not 881 00:42:47,760 --> 00:42:51,480 Speaker 1: like you have to spend them. There's benefits. But that 882 00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:53,480 Speaker 1: could be a d lineman. I mean, I wouldn't give 883 00:42:53,480 --> 00:42:54,920 Speaker 1: tend to Sue, but if you give half of that 884 00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: to Sue or somebody like that, or well, you bet 885 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:59,040 Speaker 1: there were some meetings taking place right upstairs from us 886 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,080 Speaker 1: there are having this exact discussion. Yeah, but the names 887 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:06,200 Speaker 1: we just spit out there, I would live with eight 888 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:08,759 Speaker 1: to ten of them, you know, depending on their role. 889 00:43:09,000 --> 00:43:11,359 Speaker 1: Brandon Williams, you don't give them a big guarantee or anything. 890 00:43:11,400 --> 00:43:12,640 Speaker 1: I mean, if they come in and they show up 891 00:43:12,640 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: and they're not, they don't make you a better team 892 00:43:15,160 --> 00:43:18,160 Speaker 1: than you. Okay, well we're touch as life. Yeah, but 893 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:20,879 Speaker 1: I wonder if a guy like Hardgrave you could get back. 894 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,920 Speaker 1: I bet I don't think I think they. I don't 895 00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:25,400 Speaker 1: think I think Philly is in it to win it 896 00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,440 Speaker 1: and they just wanted to study the tackle room. But 897 00:43:28,520 --> 00:43:30,279 Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of this. Other names that have 898 00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: been thrown out there as potential trade candidates or cut 899 00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:35,919 Speaker 1: candidates that are currently on a team. Be some guys. 900 00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:38,160 Speaker 1: There'll be more. I just don't know many right now. Yeah. 901 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,120 Speaker 1: The other interesting thing about this is June one is 902 00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:44,360 Speaker 1: two more is today? Today? Yeah? Today? Yeah, so there 903 00:43:44,360 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 1: could be some June first cuts that there will be 904 00:43:46,640 --> 00:43:48,879 Speaker 1: a wave of those. I'm not sure who those names are. 905 00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:50,920 Speaker 1: I know, like Dion Jones is a guy that's supposed 906 00:43:50,960 --> 00:43:53,000 Speaker 1: to get cut and I'm not digging into that tonight. 907 00:43:53,000 --> 00:43:55,919 Speaker 1: Maybe there's a waiver wire action with June first. Yeah, 908 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:58,640 Speaker 1: so you never know how that will work out. Um, 909 00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:03,520 Speaker 1: there's always there are Nobody expected Joe Hayden to be released, no, right, 910 00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:06,160 Speaker 1: right right. I mean we've said this for a while 911 00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:10,040 Speaker 1: before this news. I bet there's three guys that aren't 912 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:13,160 Speaker 1: current Steelers that will be on this team one opening 913 00:44:13,200 --> 00:44:14,880 Speaker 1: day that aren't here yet. Yeah, you know, just the 914 00:44:14,920 --> 00:44:16,160 Speaker 1: way it works, two or three of them on. One 915 00:44:16,200 --> 00:44:18,240 Speaker 1: of them might be Joe Hayde I mean, who knows. Yeah, 916 00:44:18,320 --> 00:44:20,000 Speaker 1: And you know, I think it matters. You know when 917 00:44:20,000 --> 00:44:23,879 Speaker 1: people talk about when you see the lists every year 918 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,719 Speaker 1: of coaches that that players want to go play for, 919 00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,640 Speaker 1: the coaches that that they love to play for. Mike 920 00:44:29,719 --> 00:44:34,600 Speaker 1: Tomlins always three, especially these veteran guys, like you said, 921 00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:37,840 Speaker 1: he understands how to monitor them, bring them along at 922 00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:40,479 Speaker 1: the right pace. But they also know the league. They've 923 00:44:40,480 --> 00:44:42,560 Speaker 1: had friends that would have played for Tom know what 924 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,520 Speaker 1: I mean, get you know Kim Kim Hayward has been 925 00:44:44,520 --> 00:44:45,960 Speaker 1: at the Pro Bowl to the the last six years. I'm 926 00:44:45,960 --> 00:44:48,319 Speaker 1: sure he's made some friends there and they called Cam 927 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,600 Speaker 1: and say, Cam Ah, what's it like to play for 928 00:44:50,640 --> 00:44:53,480 Speaker 1: coach t Yeah? Torn between two teams here? You know, 929 00:44:53,520 --> 00:44:55,040 Speaker 1: what do you? What do you think? So there's always 930 00:44:55,080 --> 00:44:57,239 Speaker 1: some salesmanship that goes on there as well. Yeah, and 931 00:44:57,239 --> 00:44:59,200 Speaker 1: players will tell each other truth. I mean, they're friends. 932 00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:01,319 Speaker 1: I mean, if there's for players on loyal to a team, 933 00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,759 Speaker 1: he'll tell him. I wouldn't come here if are you? Yeah, 934 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:06,200 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think there's much of that here. 935 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,919 Speaker 1: So it'll be interesting here. It'll be interesting a week 936 00:45:09,000 --> 00:45:12,280 Speaker 1: or so and could be something they wait and do after. 937 00:45:13,000 --> 00:45:15,840 Speaker 1: I wouldn't expect something tomorrow, like when we're sitting here 938 00:45:15,880 --> 00:45:19,319 Speaker 1: tomorrow like wow, they signed Ayah signed an right, he's 939 00:45:19,400 --> 00:45:23,399 Speaker 1: kindna be here for camp next week. But they've done. 940 00:45:23,440 --> 00:45:25,959 Speaker 1: They've you know, when Myles Jack got released, they jumped 941 00:45:25,960 --> 00:45:29,960 Speaker 1: immediately on that. Joe Hayden, Joe Hayden up immediately on that. Yeah, 942 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,359 Speaker 1: I mean there are guys that when the I think 943 00:45:32,360 --> 00:45:33,960 Speaker 1: we've said it this way, like when the league gives 944 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:35,759 Speaker 1: you a gift, you just take it. You know, a 945 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:37,719 Speaker 1: bad team doesn't know what they're doing, so somebody gets 946 00:45:37,719 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: cut free that we gotta take June one. Yeah, it's 947 00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:41,279 Speaker 1: a good point about the June one thing. I hadn't 948 00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:42,920 Speaker 1: thought about that, but that is a big deal in 949 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:46,319 Speaker 1: the league year. Yeah, June one. So we'll see if 950 00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:48,600 Speaker 1: what happens here over the next couple of weeks. Again, 951 00:45:48,640 --> 00:45:52,160 Speaker 1: but Steffon too it announcing his retirement. I'm kind of surprised, actually, 952 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:56,520 Speaker 1: because everybody that I talked to this offseason, every time 953 00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: I asked about it, they they've expressed expressed optimism. Last week, 954 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,400 Speaker 1: Cam Heyward talked about it, said he had been in 955 00:46:02,440 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: contact with Stefan and expected him here next week for 956 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:09,440 Speaker 1: for mini camp. And again maybe heart decision. You know, 957 00:46:09,480 --> 00:46:13,160 Speaker 1: it's been hot the last two days. Maybe Stefan get 958 00:46:13,200 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: out there and started working. 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