WEBVTT - Should You Give Your Ex A Second Chance?

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, I do part two.

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<v Speaker 2>It's your celebrity mentor, Cheryl Burke, and I'm joined by

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<v Speaker 2>our resident favorite real life single.

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<v Speaker 1>Gal, Louise. Hey, Louise, nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 3>Hi, nice to meet you. Still single, Cheryl, so happy

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<v Speaker 3>to still have that.

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<v Speaker 2>Title single unhappy? Hey, even though it's the beginning of

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<v Speaker 2>the year. There is a lot happening, obviously in the

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<v Speaker 2>celebrity divorce space, So let's dive into this. Tell me

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<v Speaker 2>about yourself first, because I feel we are doing like

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<v Speaker 2>headlines without really knowing you well.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the point here is is nobody's immune from divorce, right, so.

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<v Speaker 4>I too have divorced you too, you said nine years.

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<v Speaker 4>It's kind of like a really popular.

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<v Speaker 3>Club, and you know, even celebrities you know, experience it.

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<v Speaker 3>And I think that's one of the things I always

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<v Speaker 3>pay attention to, is no matter how beautiful, how amazing

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<v Speaker 3>their life is, whether it's the trips that this that like,

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<v Speaker 3>they are normal people who go home and deal with

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<v Speaker 3>things that don't make them happy, or people do bad

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<v Speaker 3>things to them. And I just think it's a universal theme.

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<v Speaker 3>Relationships are challenging.

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<v Speaker 2>Especially in the public eye, I think, because not only

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<v Speaker 2>are you having to deal with the person you're involved with,

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<v Speaker 2>but then you're dealing with everything else, the noise around you.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is it is challenging.

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<v Speaker 2>Though I'm not Nicole Kidman or anything like that, but

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<v Speaker 2>I was kind of in a public.

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<v Speaker 1>Divorce and that was very That was hard for me.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard for me. I'm sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I Ca'm not going to speak for my ex husband,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'm sure it wasn't easy for him either. And

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<v Speaker 2>you know, people are still talking about it and it's

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<v Speaker 2>been over three years, and it's like it's so it

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<v Speaker 2>just people like to focus I think, more on drama

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<v Speaker 2>than the actual good parts.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's salacious stuff, and I think it's interesting

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<v Speaker 3>for people, and it's, you know, no different than somebody

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<v Speaker 3>in your group of friends that gets caught, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>sleeping with a pickle ball coach and all the book

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<v Speaker 3>clubs and everyone talked about it.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just people like to see people fall apart.

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<v Speaker 2>All apart, Yeah, and then when they finally come out

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<v Speaker 2>of it, they just like to tear them apart still,

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<v Speaker 2>like it doesn't it just but that says more about

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<v Speaker 2>the person tearing that person apart than it does.

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<v Speaker 3>About I always have taught my children that the person

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<v Speaker 3>who talks badly about somebody looks bad, not the one

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<v Speaker 3>who's being talked about.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, it's because they're triggered.

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<v Speaker 2>And obviously whatever it is that's triggering them has nothing

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<v Speaker 2>to do with you, And it's really none of our

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<v Speaker 2>business what these people say about us, you know. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>it's easier said than done, but it really is obviously

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<v Speaker 2>a trigger for that person, whatever it may be, whether

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<v Speaker 2>they are wanting to be like you or there's they

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<v Speaker 2>don't understand how you were able to come out of

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<v Speaker 2>such darkness, you know, to where you are today, and

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that's where they still are.

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<v Speaker 1>You just never know.

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<v Speaker 3>People a lot of times don't root for people, sadly.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially women.

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<v Speaker 2>Speaking of divorce, let's talk about Amy Schumer files for

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<v Speaker 2>divorce from her husband, Chris Fisher after over seven years

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<v Speaker 2>of marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, have did you hear about this?

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<v Speaker 4>I did?

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<v Speaker 3>And they have a little one, which is you know,

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<v Speaker 3>just tough. Yeah, so that makes it hard when there's children.

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<v Speaker 2>I guess she just filed for divorce on Tuesday, January sixth,

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<v Speaker 2>and basically it was I guess a shock to some people,

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<v Speaker 2>but within their inner circle, not so much. But it

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<v Speaker 2>seems like it's amicable for the most part. She said

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<v Speaker 2>that Chris and I have made the difficult decision to

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<v Speaker 2>end our marriage after seven years. We love each other

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<v Speaker 2>very much and will continue to focus on raising our son.

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<v Speaker 2>We would appreciate people respecting our privacy at this time.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like everyone just says the same line every

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<v Speaker 2>time they announced the divorce. But it is true, and

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<v Speaker 2>no one's going to respect your privacy unfortunately. But I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the source says it's close, it's a cohesive split,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've just been finalizing a few things.

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<v Speaker 3>Remember that phrase, the Gwyneth and the Chris. What is

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<v Speaker 3>that conscious uncoupling? Yeah, of all the ones that we're

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<v Speaker 3>going to talk about, this one actually does feel tonally

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<v Speaker 3>like the one that might be the most benign and friendly.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe, well, what does that mean? Like, does that mean

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<v Speaker 2>that they just both lost interest? Or like, what does

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<v Speaker 2>that mean?

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<v Speaker 4>I mean?

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<v Speaker 3>I think sometimes people just over time they're just not

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<v Speaker 3>aligned anymore, or they become more like friends, and maybe

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<v Speaker 3>the passion goes away or one grows in a different

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<v Speaker 3>direction than the other.

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<v Speaker 4>But it's not like.

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<v Speaker 3>Something bad happened, like there was infidelity or a massive

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<v Speaker 3>drag addiction.

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<v Speaker 4>It's just like our time, our chapter is done. We

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<v Speaker 4>share this child. We're always going to be a part

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<v Speaker 4>of each other's lives.

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<v Speaker 3>But I feel like this is the most vanilla of

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<v Speaker 3>the ones that we're going to talk about.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope, So I hope that's right.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you just never know, right like, because something

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<v Speaker 2>could trigger somebody, like if what if someone starts dating

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<v Speaker 2>before that person, Like, it can get real ugly really fast.

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<v Speaker 2>When you say, when you say that, maybe the passion

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<v Speaker 2>dies down. See for me, it's kind of like what

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<v Speaker 2>is like, what do you mean by the passion? Because

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<v Speaker 2>it's like the honeymoon phase. Is the honeymoon phase we

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<v Speaker 2>all go through. We all love that, right Like it's

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<v Speaker 2>always the fun and we all do relationship and it

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<v Speaker 2>does no, but it does, but it does. And it's

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<v Speaker 2>then then that's when the dirty work comes in. And

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<v Speaker 2>it's like, are you willing to put the dirty work in?

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<v Speaker 2>Because if you're not, there is no uh for sure,

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<v Speaker 2>your passion is never going to come back because you

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<v Speaker 2>have to like reintroduce yourself to each other. Look, you guys,

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<v Speaker 2>all we all as individuals, we evolve as humans, and

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<v Speaker 2>it just has to it takes work.

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<v Speaker 4>I almost think it's more than that because I.

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<v Speaker 3>Think it's so important that the two people and the

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<v Speaker 3>couple are actually best friends, right because at the end

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<v Speaker 3>of the day, you know, the butterflies go away, things

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<v Speaker 3>change in the relationship. But if you're still friends and

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<v Speaker 3>you still can laugh, then you have the you could

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<v Speaker 3>potentially go the long haul.

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<v Speaker 4>I think for me, my ex husband and I were

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<v Speaker 4>just not best friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Do you mean that there was no communication, because like,

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<v Speaker 2>what is best friends? Like what does that entail? Right?

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<v Speaker 1>In entail's honesty, transparency.

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<v Speaker 4>It's your vault.

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<v Speaker 3>I think it's the person that you're comfortable, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>being next to on a park bench looking at the

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<v Speaker 3>birds quietly. But it's also the person that you're laughing

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<v Speaker 3>hysterically with and excited to see when you come home.

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<v Speaker 3>But what when two people basically are living under the

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<v Speaker 3>same roof and there's zero communication, connectivity, interest, and you're

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<v Speaker 3>just coexisting like roommates like roommates, and then it's done.

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<v Speaker 3>But the interesting thing is when you just meet somebody

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<v Speaker 3>and it's kind of like the falling in love.

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<v Speaker 4>Which is the lush, right, But.

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<v Speaker 3>Then loving somebody is totally different, right, And you know,

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know about you. I'm in my mid fifties,

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<v Speaker 3>and I find that I'm trying really hard when I

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<v Speaker 3>go on a date to basically stick it out, to

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<v Speaker 3>go out a few more times if I don't have

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<v Speaker 3>the butterflies. Because the truth is I used to sit

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<v Speaker 3>on a date and be like at point A and.

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<v Speaker 4>Be like, oh, is this my person? Could I see

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<v Speaker 4>my life for them?

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<v Speaker 3>Now what I do is I sit there and say

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<v Speaker 3>is this person interesting enough to talk to? Does he

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<v Speaker 3>have right good moral compass that I opened going on

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<v Speaker 3>a second time and then a third time?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think that's smart.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah. So the whole butterfly thing, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's very high school maybe in a way.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's almost like those those movies that we see

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<v Speaker 2>are so toxic, those love stories, those rom coms, freaking

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<v Speaker 2>what's it called the Notebook? Like, first of all, there's

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<v Speaker 2>nothing romantic about a guy stalking you, Like does he

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<v Speaker 2>straight up stock? Ryan Gosling is stalking her? And we're like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>we want someone to do that with us.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, what this is like the wrong message?

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<v Speaker 4>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>But sometimes though you say to yourself like, well, am

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<v Speaker 3>I just fitting a square peg into a round hole.

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<v Speaker 4>Like it's so confusing.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, is it confusing? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm all confused on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think we think, I think socially right, there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many so societal expectations when it comes to Like, for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm forty one, and you know, people are like, aren't

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<v Speaker 2>you so lonely? I'm like, no, I'm actually loving my

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<v Speaker 2>life living alone, and I enjoy it almost too much.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have drama, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>I have had an interesting past of relationships where it

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<v Speaker 2>just followed the same toxic pattern that.

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<v Speaker 1>I was just not a great picker.

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<v Speaker 2>I think that people expect someone like any woman in

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<v Speaker 2>their forties to have already have had children that have

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<v Speaker 2>been married, and like, then if not, then oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>she's not well there's something wrong with her, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think that's why it's so confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, But at the same time, also it's it's kind

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<v Speaker 3>of like, I don't know about you, but I would

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<v Speaker 3>say eighty percent of my closest friends are all divorced

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<v Speaker 3>or never been married, and we're in our mid fifties.

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<v Speaker 4>So I think that the difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Now, are you happy being single or do you feel

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<v Speaker 2>like you need to have somebody in your life it's interesting.

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<v Speaker 3>So I don't need to have somebody in my life

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<v Speaker 3>because I have, you know, a lot of friends. I

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<v Speaker 3>have a big career, I have a lot in my

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<v Speaker 3>in my day that's fulfilling. I'm also very happy to

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<v Speaker 3>be home reading a book or going on a walk.

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<v Speaker 4>So unless it speaks to me, I don't.

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<v Speaker 3>Need my bills paid, you know what I'm saying. So

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<v Speaker 3>unless it like speaks to me in my heart, so

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<v Speaker 3>I don't need it. Would I like somebody.

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<v Speaker 1>That you a companion?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, but that I really like, right, because I go

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<v Speaker 3>out with a lot of people that's just not totally right.

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<v Speaker 3>And then you throw on a person's attachment wounds and

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<v Speaker 3>then the it comes and then there it's you get

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<v Speaker 3>it right. It's kind of like anxious attachment avoidant attachment.

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<v Speaker 2>Actually, if I was into girls, then I would totally

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<v Speaker 2>be attracted to.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, anxious people love me, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, it's like, and here's what happens. The more

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<v Speaker 3>they come at me, the more I feel like this,

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<v Speaker 3>and the more I feel like this, the more they

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<v Speaker 3>come at me, and it's having me, you know, it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Almost inevitable that anxious and anxious and what are you

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<v Speaker 2>avoidant always marry each other always. It's just unless you're

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<v Speaker 2>secure attachment, which is very rare, especially in the Los

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<v Speaker 2>Angeles area.

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<v Speaker 3>I would assume I don't know many people secure attachment

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<v Speaker 3>because I think we all have stuff in our cuff

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<v Speaker 3>or in our cup as life goes on, and I

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<v Speaker 3>think ultimately people just trigger each other differently, and it's

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<v Speaker 3>really that do our wounds line up and exactly?

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<v Speaker 2>And also you can still change your attachment if you

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<v Speaker 2>want to, just saying we're not like stuck to this

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<v Speaker 2>one attachment to the rest of our lives, Okay. Nicole

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<v Speaker 2>Kidman and Keith Urban finalized divorce. Settlement details revealed so

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<v Speaker 2>three months after Nicole filed for divorce from Keith, the

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<v Speaker 2>former couple of finalized the breakup in documents obtained by

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<v Speaker 2>a News January sixth, Come what may, Nicole and Keith

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<v Speaker 2>will always be there for each other till the end

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<v Speaker 2>of time. Three months after the mullin Ridge actress filed

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<v Speaker 2>to legally end her nineteen year marriage to the Somebody

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<v Speaker 2>Like You singer, the former couples officially finalized their divorce

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<v Speaker 2>according to legal documents, so basically all in all, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think this is as amical as it may sound,

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<v Speaker 2>or I would think he's definitely moved on, right, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean from what I saw. Again, I don't don't believe

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<v Speaker 2>everything you read. I don't you know, I am, I

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<v Speaker 2>know that, but there, I think it's it happened quickly

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<v Speaker 2>for us, not necessarily. We don't know what happened in

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<v Speaker 2>their world. She seemed very much in love with him.

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<v Speaker 4>It feels like either side.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it was her decision put it that way.

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<v Speaker 3>And her daughters were they mad too about something I

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<v Speaker 3>had read.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. They're also grown enough.

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<v Speaker 2>They're seventeen and fourteen, Sunday Rose and Faith Margaret Right,

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<v Speaker 2>they're old enough to know what the hell's going on.

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<v Speaker 2>And I come from a divorce family. My parents got

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<v Speaker 2>divorce when I was too. I think it's so much

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<v Speaker 2>easier when you're not as you know, you're not able

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<v Speaker 2>to really put two and two together at that moment

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<v Speaker 2>than to be teenagers going through and seeing your parents.

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<v Speaker 1>I would only.

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<v Speaker 4>Assume it was eighteen. It was awful. I remember all

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<v Speaker 4>of it.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's very very Yeah. I mean, my first memory

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<v Speaker 2>I remember was my dad with another woman at two

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<v Speaker 2>years old. But again I wouldn't I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>it would have affected me. I think it would have

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<v Speaker 2>affected me more if I was older. Maybe I don't

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<v Speaker 2>know either way.

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<v Speaker 3>And it's also hard when you worry about a parent

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<v Speaker 3>and not the other one. And so what I've read

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<v Speaker 3>with this and again not everything is true. But whether

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<v Speaker 3>it's smoke, maybe there's fire in this case, I don't

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<v Speaker 3>know in this one because that girl and the band

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<v Speaker 3>or the singer, and then you see this thing with

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<v Speaker 3>the daughters Matt, I don't know, seems something there. I

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<v Speaker 3>don't think this is as calm and friendly as the

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<v Speaker 3>first one.

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<v Speaker 1>As Amy Schumer, yeah, I know.

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<v Speaker 4>This one's a little more chocolate than vanilla.

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<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if they're going to be like

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<v Speaker 2>the next headline with Kyle and you know, Maricio spending

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<v Speaker 2>Christmases together and Holidays together. You know, I'm not sure

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<v Speaker 2>they're ever going to get there as far as I'm concerned.

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<v Speaker 2>But you know, I think I don't know from what

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<v Speaker 2>I saw outsider Big Time. Don't know them personally, but

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<v Speaker 2>like it seemed to me that Nicole was head over

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<v Speaker 2>heels even was willing to deal with his alcoholism, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>and I get I'm an addict and that if you

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<v Speaker 2>let it take over, and if you don't, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>want to do the steps to be sober and get better,

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<v Speaker 2>it will take you there.

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<v Speaker 1>Unfortunately, it's dark, but.

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<v Speaker 3>Sounds like he was there supporting him and and very devoted.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's hard, very sad. It's really sad, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>sad for the K's. What do you think of this

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<v Speaker 2>settlement though? In particular, I.

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<v Speaker 3>Guess well, I feel like we all found out about

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<v Speaker 3>it later. I think it had probably been going on

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<v Speaker 3>for a while, because it just seems like it's not

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<v Speaker 3>stamp pretty quickly. I mean, I think mine took six

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<v Speaker 3>months right before that stamp came. I don't know, what

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<v Speaker 3>do you mean, stamp like the divorce settlement stamp like.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, mine took six months at least.

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<v Speaker 4>Right, But this one I feel like was quicker.

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<v Speaker 1>For some reason.

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<v Speaker 2>So the document states each party indicates that he or

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<v Speaker 2>she does not want to proceed with formal discovery, including

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<v Speaker 2>completing interrogations, in requests for production of documents or discovery

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<v Speaker 2>depositions that are designed to discover assets and debts.

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<v Speaker 1>So they are going to split everything. I guess is

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<v Speaker 1>that what it is.

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<v Speaker 4>I think that they just don't want to go through

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<v Speaker 4>the whole thing with it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, with having all their books open and all the

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<v Speaker 3>skeletons taken out of the closet.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have a prenapp obviously because.

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<v Speaker 3>They settled or they settled quietly something just to have

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<v Speaker 3>stuff not come out in the public.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know, because when you have a prenup, I

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<v Speaker 2>mean I had a prenup. Everything was quite simple. There

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<v Speaker 2>was really there was no I mean there was nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>It was written prior to our marriage, right like what

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<v Speaker 2>you know, whatever it was, It's like, it was quite

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<v Speaker 2>None of this was like I didn't even.

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<v Speaker 3>Feel like maybe there was an understanding like what's hers

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<v Speaker 3>is hers, what's his is his? And so therefore it

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<v Speaker 3>was easy to buifurkid or whatever the word is on

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<v Speaker 3>that front. But they had to have some sort of

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<v Speaker 3>agreement because they were both uber successful when they met.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, and I don't think yeah exactly, and they're

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<v Speaker 2>both going to be fine without each other. They both

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<v Speaker 2>can support their own lives and the children's lives.

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<v Speaker 1>I would assume comfortably. We would think, now you never know,

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<v Speaker 1>you never know. We don't know.

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<v Speaker 4>That one was a surprise.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was big time.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I was definitely surprised.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know he was an alcoholic. I had

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<v Speaker 1>no idea that was kept quiet. I know. That's a

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<v Speaker 1>scary part. That's scary.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to say, when I was drinking, no

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<v Speaker 2>one knew either because I was functioning.

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<v Speaker 1>So it is scary.

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<v Speaker 4>And she probably kept it really quiet too.

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<v Speaker 3>And so I just like a family, a family secret

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<v Speaker 3>or just in our circle.

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<v Speaker 2>And imagine like just the feelings of shame and guilt

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<v Speaker 2>and god, it's like dark, it's dark.

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<v Speaker 1>I agree.

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<v Speaker 3>But sad for those girls because at fourteen and seventeen,

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<v Speaker 3>they're still in the house, but yet they want to

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<v Speaker 3>live their life, meaning they're starting probably with you know,

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<v Speaker 3>all the teen girls stuff, and also to worry about

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<v Speaker 3>their whole family foundation, fowing magazines, worrying about.

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<v Speaker 4>Their mom or dad maybe fall I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Know, it's a lot for girl. I mean, to deal

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<v Speaker 1>with a stepmom.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, sounds like you had a few of those.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I had not mom, No, I mean technic my

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<v Speaker 2>dad was This is a long, long story. Short, he

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<v Speaker 2>followed his past pussy and went to Thailand open strip clubs.

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<v Speaker 2>He was a very successful lawyer in the bar area,

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<v Speaker 2>and so I had a bunch of stepmoms probably, but

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<v Speaker 2>we won't go there.

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<v Speaker 1>Rest and pacey. Then okay, got it.

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<v Speaker 4>You turned out. That's all good.

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<v Speaker 2>So thanks therapy though for the rest of my life,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm proud of it. Kyle Richards and estranged husband

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<v Speaker 2>Mauricio Umansky or Umanski stand after spending holidays together. So

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<v Speaker 2>basically they spent it sounds like Christmas and New Year's together.

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<v Speaker 2>They seemed very lovey dovey when they went to what's

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<v Speaker 2>her name's Uh there some party in Aspen. Hey, Hudson,

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<v Speaker 2>the Hudson's Party. Yes, and Aspen. They were all over

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<v Speaker 2>each other supposedly, but supposedly the people in there inner

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<v Speaker 2>circles say, there's no chance that they're going to reconcile.

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<v Speaker 1>What are your thoughts with this?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 3>No, Like I always kind of liked them together, Like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>I kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>Losing the passion. I'm pretty sure that's what happened with them.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, Like I kind of don't think so

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<v Speaker 4>I'll still feel an energy sometimes when I look at

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<v Speaker 4>them together, and they I kind of feel.

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<v Speaker 3>Like if any of the couples were talking about could

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<v Speaker 3>have a potential reconciliation, it would be them, because I

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<v Speaker 3>think they were happy for a long time or so

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<v Speaker 3>it looked, and they were married a long time.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know, like I do.

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<v Speaker 3>I have seen couples get divorced and then I have

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<v Speaker 3>friends that literally got divorced and are dating again, like.

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<v Speaker 1>They're dating their ex husband. Yes, I was, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>that's so crazy.

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<v Speaker 3>So I actually think that's I don't know, like, I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know if that's a function of like, Okay, we've

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<v Speaker 3>been out there, we've seen what else is out there?

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<v Speaker 4>Like the devil I.

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<v Speaker 3>Know was better than the devil I didn't know, and

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<v Speaker 3>we still the good things that were in a relationship

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<v Speaker 3>still exist, right, and we have this life together.

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<v Speaker 4>So then why not do it again?

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<v Speaker 3>Or maybe they've been alone for so long that like

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<v Speaker 3>they do want a companion or something.

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<v Speaker 1>He has not been alone.

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<v Speaker 4>No, I know him.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm just saying in general, the people that I've seen, oh,

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<v Speaker 3>you know that get back together. I don't know, No,

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<v Speaker 3>he I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think, honestly, you're right, though, when it

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<v Speaker 2>comes to when you you know, you never know what

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<v Speaker 2>you have until you actually lose that person. And sometimes

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<v Speaker 2>you just need a little space to bring the heat back.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just the way it is, you know, some space

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<v Speaker 2>and grace and maybe dating again is what makes them,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, have that spark. But let's just commend them

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<v Speaker 2>for this is talk about like an actual divorce in

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<v Speaker 2>front of their kids, where everything's amicable. They never talked

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<v Speaker 2>bad about each other, especially you know, for him when

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<v Speaker 2>he kind of rose to fame when he did.

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<v Speaker 4>Especially divorced. Yet I think they're just separated.

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<v Speaker 2>No, they're just I think they still live together right

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<v Speaker 2>under the same roof. I believe that's what I read.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if that's true. There's no way that's true.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe they do that nesting thing. I think, is there

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<v Speaker 3>one or two kids at home?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think there's a reason why they're not divorced.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if it's just ugly. It would get kind

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<v Speaker 2>of complicated.

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<v Speaker 3>I think some people at this point they figure over

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<v Speaker 3>with the money situation and the kind of unraveling of

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<v Speaker 3>the estate, like why not still legally stay married? But

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<v Speaker 3>you know, I need separate lives I have seen it

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<v Speaker 3>before with tons of my friends that they just don't

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<v Speaker 3>break up the estate. They still have one shared account,

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<v Speaker 3>they file joint tax return and they just live separate lives.

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<v Speaker 4>But they're more and it works.

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<v Speaker 2>My mother kept my father's last name still and she remarried,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and it's like, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you think she created a business.

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<v Speaker 2>But when it comes to the Ratio and Kyle, they

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<v Speaker 2>had no money when they started, when they were together,

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<v Speaker 2>and now.

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<v Speaker 4>They don't have They probably don't have a prenap because

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<v Speaker 4>at that.

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<v Speaker 1>Age, yeah, what are they protecting?

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<v Speaker 4>But you know what's really.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting what I'm hearing now is that a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>parents are having their children now sign prenaps even when

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<v Speaker 3>there's no money and no careers.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a lot of their parents say that again.

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<v Speaker 3>So the theme right now now and so I have

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<v Speaker 3>children that are in their mid mid upper twenties, and

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<v Speaker 3>the theme now for all of these kids is when

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<v Speaker 3>they're getting married, they're signing prenups even though there's no

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<v Speaker 3>money yet.

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<v Speaker 4>It's an anticipation of it.

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<v Speaker 3>So god forbid the marriage goes south, they already have

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<v Speaker 3>a deal in place.

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<v Speaker 4>Isn't that smart?

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<v Speaker 1>So smart. I thought that for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>This next generation too, they just didn't believe in marriage

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<v Speaker 2>for the most part. So I was like, God, you guys, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm a millennial, so like I think, you know, we

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<v Speaker 2>got kind of stuck in the trauma of our generational

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<v Speaker 2>job of our parents.

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<v Speaker 3>The marriage thing is interesting though for my general I

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<v Speaker 3>don't know. Am I I think maybe? Am I a

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<v Speaker 3>different generation?

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<v Speaker 1>Can you?

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<v Speaker 2>No?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think so.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, what hell do you mid fifties? I think

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<v Speaker 4>I'm a different.

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<v Speaker 2>Generation maybe, And if you're not, then yeah, oh I'm jenax,

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<v Speaker 2>Oh you're.

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<v Speaker 4>I just look up.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's interesting because I get asked this question a

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<v Speaker 3>lot is would you ever get remarried again? And when

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<v Speaker 3>I first got divorced, I was like, no, why would.

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<v Speaker 4>I'm not going to share money at kids. I'm just

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<v Speaker 4>going to do my thing.

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<v Speaker 3>But we could date, have a companionac to wear it

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<v Speaker 3>ring like a But totally I've gotten older and as

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<v Speaker 3>I think I would get remarried now more for the

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<v Speaker 3>concept of somebody being able to pull the plug on me.

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<v Speaker 4>God forbid, you know what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 1>Can't you have your parents do that? Or your kids? Sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>your kids.

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<v Speaker 4>That's a hard thing for a kid to do. I

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<v Speaker 4>don't know totally.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I'm just saying my black and white, it's just.

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<v Speaker 1>A contract, right, like it's a contract.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean you can also do your estate plan as well,

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<v Speaker 2>and you can make those decisions that way.

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<v Speaker 3>But they it's interesting because the second marriages, and there's

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<v Speaker 3>a higher percentage chance of a second marriage entering in

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<v Speaker 3>divorce in a first because oh really yeah, once a

0:22:52.200 --> 0:22:56.360
<v Speaker 3>person has gotten divorced once and survived it, they say, oh,

0:22:57.080 --> 0:22:59.359
<v Speaker 3>it's not that hard, so it's just easier throw in

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<v Speaker 3>the towels second time if you've already thrown in the towel.

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<v Speaker 4>So you see that a lot more.

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<v Speaker 3>I just one of my very best friends whose second

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<v Speaker 3>marriage was seventeen years.

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<v Speaker 4>She just got divorced.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh wow, so it's I mean, you look at most

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<v Speaker 3>first marriages are fifty percent.

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<v Speaker 4>I think second marriages are like seventy percent. It's not sad.

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<v Speaker 1>Well I thought would be the other way around.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, as far as I'm concerned, I don't pair

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<v Speaker 2>either way really, but I'm not as it. Like before,

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<v Speaker 2>when I first got married, I was like, yes, I

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<v Speaker 2>need to get married. It was more, it was more

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<v Speaker 2>about me getting married than kids. Ever, like my whole

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<v Speaker 2>life it was like that, Like I never really dreamed

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<v Speaker 2>of having kids as much as my marriage.

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<v Speaker 1>Now that I got that out of the way, we're good.

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<v Speaker 3>But one last thing and then we can move on

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<v Speaker 3>to the next thing. Every time I tell my children

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<v Speaker 3>somebody we know is getting divorced or friends of ours,

0:23:44.000 --> 0:23:46.399
<v Speaker 3>they look at me and they go, so, doesn't everybody

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<v Speaker 3>get divorced. It's like, no, they're so sad, so jaded

0:23:50.119 --> 0:23:53.800
<v Speaker 3>because they look around at like I'm divorced, my brother's divorced,

0:23:53.840 --> 0:23:56.760
<v Speaker 3>my parents are divorced, my ex husband's they are divorce.

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<v Speaker 6>I mean, it's just everywhere they turned sad. I know,

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<v Speaker 6>so moving on to another divorce, moving on to another divorce.

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<v Speaker 2>But I really like, I don't know her, but she

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<v Speaker 2>seems really genuine. Jennifer Gardner makes rare comments about her

0:24:19.560 --> 0:24:20.920
<v Speaker 2>hard divorce from Ben Affleck.

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<v Speaker 1>Am I seeing things? Maybe maybe you can.

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<v Speaker 2>Confirm or not, But did Jennifer Lopez and Ben Affleck

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<v Speaker 2>just like get seen out together like canoodling versus old footage?

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<v Speaker 3>I read that also. I was kind of hoping he

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<v Speaker 3>and Jennifer Garner would get I.

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<v Speaker 1>Mean they were.

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<v Speaker 2>There's no way Jennifer Gardner would never do that to herself.

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, she's very I say, as brounded as you

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<v Speaker 2>can be, as you can be in this business. Right,

0:24:47.119 --> 0:24:49.399
<v Speaker 2>she seems to be. She seems to be very genuine

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<v Speaker 2>and authentic. Don't know her, don't know, but she does

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<v Speaker 2>seem a little too good for him.

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<v Speaker 4>The son, I don't know, Well, good girls like good

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<v Speaker 4>girls like that, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't think, but I don't think she's like that.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think she got She's not going to go

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<v Speaker 3>back to it now. If he and Jennifer go back

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<v Speaker 3>to the rodeo for a third time.

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<v Speaker 1>They are they just they were just seen together. It's crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>That's just toxic. And they both have to know that

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<v Speaker 4>going into it.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think they.

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<v Speaker 2>Do, and that's why they keep going back to it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like, you, guys, you're an ex for a reason.

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<v Speaker 1>Period. I married an ex.

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<v Speaker 3>It's like once something already has had this seal broken,

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<v Speaker 3>it's it's still kind of existing.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, right, it's the same person.

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<v Speaker 2>Like we evolved, but we don't really we don't really change.

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<v Speaker 4>No, people do not change.

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<v Speaker 1>Not true, Not true.

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<v Speaker 2>Only if you're aware, if you're very much aware and

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<v Speaker 2>like present as much as possible, and you take accountability.

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<v Speaker 1>You can change. I change. I'm anarcoholic.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, I think people can act, but I think sometimes

0:25:48.400 --> 0:25:50.919
<v Speaker 3>that default behavior will rear its head again in the

0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:54.440
<v Speaker 3>heat of a yes, but in a conscious moment where

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<v Speaker 3>you can stop and pause and react differently.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I've made tense evolved.

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<v Speaker 2>If you are willing to like like take the whole thing,

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<v Speaker 2>it has to be the whole thing. It's a whole package.

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<v Speaker 2>You have to know that you're not perfect and you're

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<v Speaker 2>not a narcissist. If that, if you can do that.

0:26:10.880 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 3>And you're actively doing work on yourself all the time,

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<v Speaker 3>and so you're it's really about pausing and not reacting

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<v Speaker 3>and trying to look at somebody else landing instead of

0:26:20.480 --> 0:26:24.359
<v Speaker 3>and looking at somebody else's lens and just yeah, and.

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<v Speaker 2>Always know that your work in progress. Everybody is. I

0:26:26.800 --> 0:26:27.880
<v Speaker 2>don't give who you are.

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<v Speaker 1>Nobody's in the language.

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<v Speaker 2>Jennifer Gardner, so if she's giving rare insight into her separation.

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<v Speaker 2>She spoke to Mary Claire UK about life now in

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<v Speaker 2>the upcoming second season of her TV show on Apple TV.

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<v Speaker 2>She says, you have to be smart about what you

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<v Speaker 2>can and can't handle. And I could not handle what

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<v Speaker 2>was out there. But what was out there, she said,

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<v Speaker 2>was not what was hard. The fact of it is

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<v Speaker 2>what was hard, she says. It's the actual breaking up

0:26:54.920 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 2>of a family is what was hard. Losing a true

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:01.720
<v Speaker 2>partnership and friendship is what was hard, she said. And

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<v Speaker 2>she says, I make a big, consorted effort to see

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<v Speaker 2>my people as much as I can. She was basically asked,

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<v Speaker 2>you know how she was able to handle all of this,

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<v Speaker 2>and she saw community and she thinks that that's where

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<v Speaker 2>your resilience is. It's in your relationships and in the

0:27:18.600 --> 0:27:22.399
<v Speaker 2>people who carry you through. Can you relate to what

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<v Speaker 2>Jen said about divorce.

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<v Speaker 4>One hundred percent?

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<v Speaker 3>So it's really easy to be there for people in

0:27:27.880 --> 0:27:29.360
<v Speaker 3>the good times, right when.

0:27:29.160 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 4>It's parties and cocktails and trips and this.

0:27:31.680 --> 0:27:34.439
<v Speaker 3>That you learn who your people are when your chips

0:27:34.440 --> 0:27:37.840
<v Speaker 3>are down and yep, and you really do.

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<v Speaker 4>And as much as it's hard to.

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<v Speaker 3>Whittle it down, quality not quantity matter so much more

0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.160
<v Speaker 3>when you get to that place, right And so when you.

0:27:49.040 --> 0:27:52.840
<v Speaker 4>Go through a divorce, you learn who.

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<v Speaker 3>Your friends are and right, and I'm super grateful for

0:27:56.720 --> 0:27:58.200
<v Speaker 3>my tribe.

0:27:58.600 --> 0:28:01.160
<v Speaker 4>But getting divorce is hard. My kids were young.

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<v Speaker 3>Nothing salacious happened in our divorce.

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<v Speaker 4>We just were not a good fit. But our kids

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<v Speaker 4>were young.

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<v Speaker 1>Helen, Were you married for fourteen years? Wow?

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<v Speaker 4>And we are best friends?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh?

0:28:15.400 --> 0:28:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Oh, now you are. That's great.

0:28:17.119 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 4>No, we we had when we first got divorced.

0:28:20.560 --> 0:28:23.840
<v Speaker 3>Our child had some medical stuff, so we had to

0:28:23.840 --> 0:28:26.639
<v Speaker 3>stay united on that front. And what I learned in

0:28:26.720 --> 0:28:30.359
<v Speaker 3>our divorce is the best things of him still exist

0:28:30.920 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 3>and the best things of me still exist, and we

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:37.920
<v Speaker 3>really appreciate that. And as co parents, we were locked

0:28:38.000 --> 0:28:40.760
<v Speaker 3>and loaded on that and it was just great, right.

0:28:41.040 --> 0:28:43.760
<v Speaker 3>And actually we enjoy each other. I mean we talk

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:44.440
<v Speaker 3>all the time.

0:28:44.720 --> 0:28:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Is there any like?

0:28:46.120 --> 0:28:48.640
<v Speaker 3>No, I love his fiance, I love her kids. Like

0:28:48.800 --> 0:28:52.120
<v Speaker 3>we are like one big, modern, happy family. And I'm

0:28:52.240 --> 0:28:55.160
<v Speaker 3>very grateful that I married him and that he's the.

0:28:55.080 --> 0:28:55.840
<v Speaker 1>Father of my children.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, that's nice of you to say, genuinely, that's so great.

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<v Speaker 2>How long How long did that take to get there?

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<v Speaker 2>From your divorce?

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<v Speaker 3>Look, when you're first getting divorced and you're just kind

0:29:07.640 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 3>of unraveling everything, it's it takes a minute to recalibrate.

0:29:12.760 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 3>Years was pretty easy, Like within like a year or two.

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<v Speaker 3>But I would say we really became friends, like in

0:29:20.760 --> 0:29:23.760
<v Speaker 3>the last couple of years, like really friends. Like I

0:29:23.800 --> 0:29:25.960
<v Speaker 3>was going to get a mammogram and was like, do you.

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<v Speaker 4>Need a ride? I was like, oh no, no, ma,

0:29:28.240 --> 0:29:29.640
<v Speaker 4>like genuinely friends.

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:32.640
<v Speaker 3>And he had had some surgery and his fiance wasn't

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:34.640
<v Speaker 3>in town and so.

0:29:36.160 --> 0:29:39.160
<v Speaker 4>I picked him up. I mean, it's more like we're

0:29:39.160 --> 0:29:39.920
<v Speaker 4>brother and sister.

0:29:40.720 --> 0:29:43.520
<v Speaker 1>How's the fiance handling that, Oh, we love each other?

0:29:43.520 --> 0:29:44.360
<v Speaker 4>Because let me chage that.

0:29:44.360 --> 0:29:44.800
<v Speaker 1>That's great.

0:29:45.000 --> 0:29:49.720
<v Speaker 4>He hasn't he didn't change, I mean he makes change. Similar. No,

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:50.400
<v Speaker 4>we just sit there.

0:29:50.440 --> 0:29:53.240
<v Speaker 3>I look at her and I'm like, like, it's so funny.

0:29:53.280 --> 0:29:54.480
<v Speaker 1>But she's so great.

0:29:54.640 --> 0:29:55.200
<v Speaker 4>She's rad.

0:29:55.240 --> 0:29:59.720
<v Speaker 3>But guess what age appropriate has an amazing job, which

0:29:59.720 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 3>means she has her own money, has her own children.

0:30:02.240 --> 0:30:05.640
<v Speaker 3>She's like a best case scenario. It's not like the

0:30:05.720 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 3>guy who dates.

0:30:06.560 --> 0:30:10.040
<v Speaker 1>It's not like underage. Yeah, it's the young girl or

0:30:10.040 --> 0:30:11.640
<v Speaker 1>your daughter's best friend.

0:30:11.600 --> 0:30:13.640
<v Speaker 3>Right, or is like a total gold digger or whatever

0:30:13.680 --> 0:30:16.400
<v Speaker 3>it is. So it's kind of like winning, right.

0:30:16.400 --> 0:30:19.200
<v Speaker 1>Right, you respect her, ultimately respect her.

0:30:19.200 --> 0:30:20.320
<v Speaker 4>I want to be her best friend.

0:30:20.720 --> 0:30:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly, And how are your kids? Handling it.

0:30:22.840 --> 0:30:25.640
<v Speaker 4>Oh, they they haven't pay They love it. They think

0:30:25.640 --> 0:30:26.120
<v Speaker 4>it's great.

0:30:26.120 --> 0:30:29.360
<v Speaker 3>Initially when you guys divorced it, they were now I

0:30:29.400 --> 0:30:32.560
<v Speaker 3>mean they were, they were, they were young.

0:30:33.040 --> 0:30:36.360
<v Speaker 4>I think for them it was yeah.

0:30:36.440 --> 0:30:38.120
<v Speaker 3>I mean I think they were, you know, second and

0:30:38.160 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 3>fourth grade. So it's hard. Yeah, it's hard.

0:30:41.040 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 1>It's hard.

0:30:42.320 --> 0:30:45.320
<v Speaker 2>Thanks for sharing. Let's move on to Tom Brady, shall we.

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Tom Brady shares cryptic posts. I think people need to

0:30:48.880 --> 0:30:52.520
<v Speaker 2>literally start looking into their lives and not Tom Brady's.

0:30:52.520 --> 0:30:55.600
<v Speaker 2>After spending time with Alex Earl on New Year's Eve, Okay.

0:30:56.760 --> 0:30:58.360
<v Speaker 4>I want to be Alex Earl.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I mean, first of all, who can. They're

0:31:01.000 --> 0:31:04.240
<v Speaker 1>both of age one two, they can do whatever the

0:31:04.240 --> 0:31:04.640
<v Speaker 1>hell they want.

0:31:04.720 --> 0:31:08.080
<v Speaker 2>I think the single, single and thought and if they

0:31:08.080 --> 0:31:10.240
<v Speaker 2>want to have a one night stand or ten night stan,

0:31:10.400 --> 0:31:10.880
<v Speaker 2>so be it.

0:31:11.680 --> 0:31:13.360
<v Speaker 4>And we all I want to read about.

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:16.080
<v Speaker 3>I mean, I watched her on TikTok in college, like

0:31:16.240 --> 0:31:17.360
<v Speaker 3>he's obviously do.

0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:18.719
<v Speaker 1>You watch her on Dancing with the Stars.

0:31:19.800 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 4>I actually did not watch it on her on Dancing House.

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:27.720
<v Speaker 1>But one I like her and I do too.

0:31:28.600 --> 0:31:32.160
<v Speaker 4>She's she's relatable for me. I don't know, I just yeah,

0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.120
<v Speaker 4>she's cool, and I think the two of them together

0:31:34.240 --> 0:31:36.200
<v Speaker 4>is cute and fun. And whether I don't think I'll

0:31:36.240 --> 0:31:37.600
<v Speaker 4>go at the distance, maybe it will.

0:31:37.480 --> 0:31:40.720
<v Speaker 1>But it kind of I mean, yeah, even if she

0:31:41.000 --> 0:31:41.680
<v Speaker 1>how old is she?

0:31:41.680 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>She's watched two twenty four and and he is, it

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:48.680
<v Speaker 2>doesn't matter. But at the end of the day, it's

0:31:48.720 --> 0:31:52.040
<v Speaker 2>not like they are having a quiet affair, Like, yes,

0:31:52.080 --> 0:31:54.880
<v Speaker 2>there was flirting happening, but like, oh well now. The

0:31:54.880 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>only weird thing though, is that, uh, I can see

0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:01.600
<v Speaker 2>why the other party meeting her ex, who's also a

0:32:01.600 --> 0:32:04.120
<v Speaker 2>football player they had just broken up.

0:32:04.480 --> 0:32:07.120
<v Speaker 4>It was a little close. It was a little it.

0:32:07.080 --> 0:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>Was a little close, but it was also like in

0:32:08.960 --> 0:32:13.160
<v Speaker 2>the same in the same field, you know, I can

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.640
<v Speaker 2>see how that kind of irks people, right.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean it's also because he also has an eighteen

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<v Speaker 3>year old child, so it's kind of like.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh, how old is how old is he?

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<v Speaker 1>How old is he?

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<v Speaker 2>He is, Like he's got to be in his late forties, right, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>So but I.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't know, maybe maybe his eighteen year old son thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was like do a dad, go for it.

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<v Speaker 1>He's probably a fan of Alex Yeah he's forty then.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh okay, okay, it was like a twenty three year

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<v Speaker 3>different what's big ague?

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<v Speaker 1>Who was downing?

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<v Speaker 4>You know what? Hey?

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<v Speaker 3>I mean she's dating one of the biggest, most important

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<v Speaker 3>football I don't think.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't see it getting so serious. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like who but who care?

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<v Speaker 1>People are still talking about it.

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<v Speaker 2>They may not even be talking to each other anymore

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, you know what I mean, And there.

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<v Speaker 4>Will be a new headline that comes out, right.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they're still talking to people are still talking

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<v Speaker 2>about it.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, there's some cryptic posts, right, I mean, we're toxic.

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<v Speaker 4>So I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I mean, like, okay, so what are the

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<v Speaker 2>something you want to read them are?

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<v Speaker 1>What? What's one of them?

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<v Speaker 3>Didn't his ex wife just get remarried, she's get she's

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<v Speaker 3>about to I think No, she got remarried, has a

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<v Speaker 3>she's pregnant, or she had a baby Zell Gazelle.

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<v Speaker 2>So one of the posts said people are not beautiful

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<v Speaker 2>from So this is from Tom Brady. People are not beautiful.

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<v Speaker 2>This is on January first, for how they look or speak.

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<v Speaker 2>They're beautiful for how they love, care and treat others. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean that's not cryptic. Okay, Okay, thanks for your message.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, But he's reposting it. But where is it directed to?

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<v Speaker 3>Who's it directed at?

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<v Speaker 1>But what type of cryptic? What are they? People are

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<v Speaker 1>reading way too into this.

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<v Speaker 5>Sorry, guys, I gotta jump in here. I just don't

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<v Speaker 5>want you getting flamed in the comments. Posting this on

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<v Speaker 5>January first, which is when they are going viral for

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<v Speaker 5>being together on New Year's Eve.

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<v Speaker 1>They were not they were it was a sling. It

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<v Speaker 1>wouldn't mean together totally.

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<v Speaker 5>But I'm saying she's rubbing his back. They're holding hands

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<v Speaker 5>like it's not Yeah, I did.

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<v Speaker 3>That's right. She wants that attention. I'd be rubbing his

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<v Speaker 3>back too if I were her.

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<v Speaker 5>Heca X got married a month ago. All I'm saying is,

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<v Speaker 5>it's not like, why are people drawing attention, It's because

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<v Speaker 5>he's literally posting this the day after he's going viral.

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<v Speaker 1>Doesn't he always post stuff like this?

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<v Speaker 4>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>I don't follow the dude.

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<v Speaker 3>It sounds like he's probably trying to like be in

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<v Speaker 3>a situation like this because he's priced a little stung

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<v Speaker 3>that his ex wife is remarried with the baby.

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<v Speaker 1>You guys, this is he's a motivational speaker.

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<v Speaker 2>Now like this is what he So Tom Brady is

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<v Speaker 2>very much well respected right as an athlete, and he

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<v Speaker 2>still is to this day, and he is definitely out

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<v Speaker 2>there doing motivational speeches and he's trying to get into

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<v Speaker 2>that whole world. This guy posts stuff like this all

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<v Speaker 2>the time. There's like if there's no cryptic, it's also

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<v Speaker 2>January first. You need to be if you're going to

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<v Speaker 2>get into this world of like, you know, being somebody

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<v Speaker 2>that people look up to. That is absolutely normal to repost.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, like a like Tony Robbins makes a comment like

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<v Speaker 3>that has some depth and texture and gets people talking

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<v Speaker 3>and thinking. So you are right, he's trying to reimagine

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<v Speaker 3>a new career for himself and he's going to go

0:35:22.440 --> 0:35:25.080
<v Speaker 3>this route. So therefore start talking about like, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>the different things like.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, we all have millions of people look rejection as

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<v Speaker 2>redirection or.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, saying there's all these things like you know, butterflies,

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<v Speaker 3>they just.

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<v Speaker 1>Come out of nowhere, Like come on, right, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean?

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<v Speaker 2>This is not like some random rapper all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, wanting to be about talking about mental health.

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<v Speaker 2>Like no, this guy is it fits put it that

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<v Speaker 2>way if the shoot because.

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<v Speaker 3>He's a leader and people will respect and listen him.

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<v Speaker 3>So he is somebody who could take a platform like

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<v Speaker 3>that and make an impact with people.

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<v Speaker 1>And then here's another one and says a winner is

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<v Speaker 1>a loser.

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<v Speaker 2>A quote was followed by another repost of a graphics

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<v Speaker 2>featuring ninety nine x's, followed by one check mark that

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<v Speaker 2>proclaimed that a winner is a loser who tried one

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<v Speaker 2>more time again.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same thing. It's just a motivational thing.

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<v Speaker 3>You can go onto my Instagram folders. I have so

0:36:15.800 --> 0:36:19.480
<v Speaker 3>many quotations and meditations that I manifestation things that I

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<v Speaker 3>save all the time.

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<v Speaker 1>Especially on threads.

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<v Speaker 2>I do it all the time, like come on now, boo.

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<v Speaker 2>People need to like literally chill.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they're bored.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyway, it was nice to meet you.

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<v Speaker 4>It was really nice to chat with you, and.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for opening up.

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<v Speaker 3>Happy Oh no you too, of course, Happy New Year

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<v Speaker 3>to you, and I hope you need to see you

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<v Speaker 3>soon or talk.

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<v Speaker 4>To you soon.

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<v Speaker 1>Visit I would a visit.

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<v Speaker 2>One things for sure, there is never going to be

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<v Speaker 2>a shortage of divorce headlines in the news unfortunately. Are

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<v Speaker 2>you needing advice at navigating your chapter two, call us

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