Speaker 1: This is Suckers.
Speaker 2: I'm Kailean Bell, I'm Dean Bell, and I'm Jared habn An.
Speaker 3: iHeartRadio podcast. Hello everyone, welcome to an all new episode
Speaker 3: of Suckers. This is Kaylin's Corner. I'm joined by Dean.
Speaker 1: That's me.
Speaker 3: Welcome to this week's episode. There's a lot going on
Speaker 3: in pop culture. Okay, so we obviously just talked about
Speaker 3: Bachelor on Suckers, but I want to touch a little
Speaker 3: bit more on it. Did you watch the whole finale?
Speaker 2: I fast forwarded a fair portion of it, but I
Speaker 2: think I caught all the spark notes.
Speaker 3: I feel like we did talk about most of it.
Speaker 3: I'm just still fascinated by the bachelorette choice, and I'm
Speaker 3: just so mad it's not Daisy, are you?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm shocked, Like she just was.
Speaker 3: So good the entire season. I've never seen anyone get
Speaker 3: a truly perfect edit, and she got a an absolute
Speaker 3: perfect edit.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I guess I didn't really watch a lot of the
Speaker 2: meat episodes, the core episodes, but she seemed.
Speaker 3: Nice, Oh nice, like a like an angel. Yeah. Wow,
Speaker 3: So I just she would have been so great to watch.
Speaker 3: I was also thinking, too, like maybe she's so nice
Speaker 3: and so sweet that it wouldn't have been entertaining and
Speaker 3: it would have been hard for her to like put
Speaker 3: guys in their place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I feel like I feel like this with Mollis bachelorettes
Speaker 2: when the get announced in Bachelor's for that reason. For this,
Speaker 2: For the same reason too, I feel like when they're announced,
Speaker 2: I'm like, I don't really see it, Like I don't
Speaker 2: really see them having the charismaticarious season or like for
Speaker 2: whatever reason. And Daisy kind of gave me that same
Speaker 2: feeling too, So I'm personally not bummed at all.
Speaker 3: I feel like she was lacking in some way.
Speaker 1: Not lacking.
Speaker 2: I kind of agree with what you're saying, Like maybe
Speaker 2: she she I guess, I don't know how to describe it,
Speaker 2: but she didn't give me bachelorette energy, you know, But
Speaker 2: I guess like like neither did Charity kind of did it. Actually,
Speaker 2: let's go back Rachel Gabby kind of, I guess like
Speaker 2: my Rachel did. But that's just because I'm biased. I
Speaker 2: guess because she was my bachelorette.
Speaker 1: She.
Speaker 2: I don't know, I just didn't really get the energy
Speaker 2: from her for bachelorette And do I get it from Jen,
Speaker 2: not really, but I don't really know enough about Jen.
Speaker 2: I guess to have more of a solidified opinion about that.
Speaker 3: Well, that's where I think the Bachelor failed, and whether
Speaker 3: they anticipated her being the Bachelorette or not, they totally
Speaker 3: screwed her over and like people are comparing her because
Speaker 3: the essentially the Bachelor makes the stars, like their edits
Speaker 3: make the stars. They get to control who has the
Speaker 3: most airtime for sure, whose stories are shown, and Jen
Speaker 3: wasn't really shown that much, and so like they kind
Speaker 3: of failed in that aspect of not showing her personalitymore,
Speaker 3: not showing like her itm should have been shown more,
Speaker 3: Like her personality should have come out so much more
Speaker 3: than it did if she's going to be the bachelorette,
Speaker 3: And maybe this is their tactic to be like we're
Speaker 3: going to shock everyone like Canvas.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that could be it.
Speaker 2: I do maybe agree with what you were saying on
Speaker 2: the Mainsuckers podcast is that they like pivoted kind of
Speaker 2: last second, and so they obviously can't go back and
Speaker 2: rewrite the show because it's already aired. If they knew
Speaker 2: they were going to make Jen the Bachelorette, maybe they
Speaker 2: would have showcased her more in certain areas, you know,
Speaker 2: exposed different lights of her. But since Daisy and Maria,
Speaker 2: who maybe they were planning on having me the bachelorette
Speaker 2: and got all that screen time, didn't want it, or
Speaker 2: just they decided to go a different direction at the
Speaker 2: last second, they just didn't have the ability to go
Speaker 2: back and change the storyline that they were telling, you know.
Speaker 1: So I don't know.
Speaker 2: I do think that they liked to have a lead
Speaker 2: who you don't know much about, Like we didn't really
Speaker 2: know much about Joey before the season started.
Speaker 3: It's hard because I started with Charity season, and I
Speaker 3: love Charity so much.
Speaker 1: I mean, you started with Charity season.
Speaker 3: I started watching her season, but I think which was
Speaker 3: it air?
Speaker 1: I mean, you watched so many seasons.
Speaker 3: No, I started watching Charity season, like I started episode
Speaker 3: one and I started episode two, but I didn't finish
Speaker 3: her season.
Speaker 1: Oh how I understand.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I think it was like around the time
Speaker 3: of our wedding and a bachelor and stuff, so I
Speaker 3: didn't watch the whole thing. But so I didn't really
Speaker 3: get to know Joey and I but I and I
Speaker 3: didn't really get to it I think that was kind
Speaker 3: of the thing.
Speaker 2: When he was announced, everyone was kind of like, who's
Speaker 2: this We don't really know much about him, kind of
Speaker 2: the similar situation with Jen, where you know, we obviously
Speaker 2: know who she is, but we don't really know.
Speaker 1: Much of her, her personality or anything like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and that's I mean, who else have we not known?
Speaker 3: I think Ari wasn't the most unexpected choice ever? Who else?
Speaker 3: Matt James? Oh my gosh, Matt James is the one
Speaker 3: that we never he was never on a show.
Speaker 1: He had a good season.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he had a good season. He still is.
Speaker 2: It's hard that way because, like in a case where
Speaker 2: let's say it was Daisy, you know that you'd have
Speaker 2: a lot of guys going on her season because they
Speaker 2: fell in love with her on the show and they
Speaker 2: want to they want a chance to date her. When
Speaker 2: it's someone that you don't really know much about, like
Speaker 2: Matt James, for instance, or in this case, Jen, you
Speaker 2: have a lot of people who are going on the
Speaker 2: show because they want to be on the show, and
Speaker 2: not necessarily because they really fell in love with this
Speaker 2: person that they saw develop on the season that they
Speaker 2: were on a contest as a contestant, you know, So
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's necessarily a good formula for
Speaker 2: success from the show's standpoint, because you have a lot
Speaker 2: of people going on with not necessarily bad intentions, but
Speaker 2: not for the intentions that you typically would want to
Speaker 2: date someone for. Like I mean, the same could be
Speaker 2: said for me. I knew nothing about Rachel when I
Speaker 2: went on my season of the Bachelorette. I was just
Speaker 2: kind of there for an experience and wanted to have
Speaker 2: a good time. And some of the guys, you know,
Speaker 2: they are obviously not divorced and that's sad. But Brian,
Speaker 2: I know he knew a lot about Rachel. He was
Speaker 2: there for Rachel like that he went on Rachel's season
Speaker 2: of the Bachelorette. I just went on this season of
Speaker 2: the Bachelorette, And I guess all that to say is like,
Speaker 2: I'm curious to see how the guys are going to
Speaker 2: respond to gen being the Bachelorette, because they probably don't
Speaker 2: really know that much better.
Speaker 3: It's true. Yeah, I'm also just fascinated about the potentially
Speaker 3: saying no to Bachelorette because I don't know if we've
Speaker 3: ever heard of anyone's turning down this position.
Speaker 2: Right, there's definitely I mean, maybe we just don't hear
Speaker 2: about it, but I guarantee you every season.
Speaker 1: Maybe not every season, but like Peter ma I have maybe.
Speaker 3: But we also heard that maybe he was, like in
Speaker 3: the back wings, supposed to be a bachelor.
Speaker 2: So that's what I'm saying, like he was supposed to be.
Speaker 2: Last second he said I didn't want to be. I
Speaker 2: actually don't know the whole story behind Peter not being
Speaker 2: the Bachelor, so I don't really want to speak too
Speaker 2: much about it.
Speaker 3: But I don't know. I've never heard of anyone turning
Speaker 3: it down, and it's crazy and it's so interesting. I'm
Speaker 3: very fascinated by that and their decisions to do that.
Speaker 1: Well, how do you feel about Jen being the bachelorette.
Speaker 3: I'm excited, That's why I was just saying on Suckers.
Speaker 3: I'm super excited. I think she's going to be a
Speaker 3: great bachelorette. It's just always like it's hard because I
Speaker 3: guess Hannah Brown maybe experience this too, but like you
Speaker 3: go to the finale, you're so invested in these characters.
Speaker 3: This person got sent home before hometown, like we've kind
Speaker 3: of forgotten about you at this point and it's like, Okay,
Speaker 3: we're so invested in these characters. This person just got dumped.
Speaker 3: We're still thinking about Maria. And then you got dumped
Speaker 3: like three, four or five weeks ago. You haven't been
Speaker 3: on our television, so it just feels random.
Speaker 2: It's just a recency bias thing, I think it is.
Speaker 2: It's totally Yah and days he are the last two
Speaker 2: of the last ones off the screen.
Speaker 3: Is because I think when she got dumped Jen, everyone
Speaker 3: was like Jen for Bachelorette, Jeni for Bachelorette, but then
Speaker 3: you forget about her because you're watching the other characters.
Speaker 3: So it is recency bias for sure. And she like
Speaker 3: wasn't really in chats on social media, like everyone's pitching Daisy,
Speaker 3: everyone's pitching Maria, and nobody I didn't see on TikTok
Speaker 3: like people, you know, fawning over Jen. So it's just
Speaker 3: it's interesting. I'm but I still am super excited for
Speaker 3: the season and for her. She's gonna be great. Well,
Speaker 3: I think that's enough Bachelor talk. We've been talking Bachelor
Speaker 3: for a bit, but I'm just really excited that the
Speaker 3: franchise is back and it's good again. In other news.
Speaker 3: Have you heard about Diddy?
Speaker 1: I have heard about Diddy?
Speaker 3: What are your thoughts? What do you think is happening?
Speaker 3: What do you think he did?
Speaker 1: I guess I've heard about him, but I don't really
Speaker 1: know much.
Speaker 2: Was his house is rated because of accusations of sexual
Speaker 2: sex trafficking or something like that?
Speaker 3: Right, yeah, I've heard a few different things, but that's
Speaker 3: the main consensus, I believe. And then here is a
Speaker 3: timeline of everything that's been happening. So in November of
Speaker 3: twenty twenty three, R and B singer Cassie sues Ditty
Speaker 3: for rape and physical abuse. Do you remember this? Everyone
Speaker 3: was talking about it. Cassie's demand was thirty million dollars
Speaker 3: under the threat of writing a damaging book about their relationship,
Speaker 3: which is unequivocally rejected as blatant blackmail. So people were like, oh,
Speaker 3: this is just blackmail, Like she just wants money. Is
Speaker 3: kind of the consensus. And then in November twenty twenty three,
Speaker 3: Joy Dickerson ill accuses Didty of sexual assault. So right
Speaker 3: after that, he's accused of sexual assault again. And then
Speaker 3: same month, same year, more women file sexualssault lawsuits against Didty.
Speaker 3: So it just sucks for Cassie where she was the
Speaker 3: first one to come forward and she asked for this money,
Speaker 3: and people like people didn't really seem to be fully
Speaker 3: on her side, which is horrible. And then it took
Speaker 3: more and more and more women for people to be like,
Speaker 3: oh my gosh, Cassie is right. And that was just
Speaker 3: what I was seeing on TikTok. Maybe there were more
Speaker 3: Cassie supporters, which is great, and maybe I'm totally wrong.
Speaker 3: But in December twenty twenty three, Ditty is accused of
Speaker 3: gang raping a teenager in two thousand and three. She
Speaker 3: was seventeen years old. And then so this is just
Speaker 3: like continuously coming out. February twenty twenty four, Rodney Lilrod
Speaker 3: Jones accuses Ditty of sexual misconduct. And I think this
Speaker 3: is the one that I've seen all of the documents
Speaker 3: came out about like what exactly he has proof of,
Speaker 3: and he has a lot of proof and a lot
Speaker 3: of videos of a lot of like disgusting things Diddy
Speaker 3: and his associates did. But this is still going on.
Speaker 3: So March twenty twenty four, Ditty's Miami and Los Angeles
Speaker 3: homes are rated by Homeland Security, which are the videos
Speaker 3: we've seen circulating and everything coming out, So things are
Speaker 3: not looking good for Diddy, and he sounds like a
Speaker 3: horrible person.
Speaker 1: Another childhood hero falls.
Speaker 3: Was he a childhood hero?
Speaker 2: No, but he was a big name when we were kids.
Speaker 2: I just feel like it happens. I mean, this is
Speaker 2: obviously horrible what he's been accused of. I feel like
Speaker 2: there so many people that we grew up listening to
Speaker 2: or I don't want to say idolizing, but people definitely
Speaker 2: did idolize him.
Speaker 1: I wasn't one of them.
Speaker 2: I'm sure you weren't either, but you know, people were
Speaker 2: fans of his music and all that kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: And then just the more you hear about him, the
Speaker 2: more gets pulled up, and the more horrible these people sound.
Speaker 3: It's just like the money and the fame, I feel like,
Speaker 3: makes you feel untouchable. It makes you feel like God
Speaker 3: in a sense. It's like everyone wants me, everyone wants
Speaker 3: to be around me. I can do whatever the hell
Speaker 3: I want. No one will ever touch me. Yeah, and
Speaker 3: it's disgusting, and I ough it sucks for Cassie, Like,
Speaker 3: but she is the one who kind of sparked all this.
Speaker 3: I think like if she didn't speak up. I don't
Speaker 3: know if we would have how this happening right now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a part of it too. Is interesting because
Speaker 2: a lot of these accusations are coming from the two
Speaker 2: thousands and probably early twenty tens, right, But back in
Speaker 2: those days, I bet you he wasn't even worried about
Speaker 2: obviously he was breaking the law and doing horrible, disgusting things.
Speaker 2: I don't think he was ever really worried about getting
Speaker 2: caught because people weren't getting caught for that kind of
Speaker 2: stuff or back in those days. And you know, back
Speaker 2: in those days, it was only twenty years ago, but
Speaker 2: still recent enough, but things were just different, Like social
Speaker 2: media wasn't as prevalent. The Me Too movement definitely changed
Speaker 2: a lot of things of like women feeling more comfortable
Speaker 2: to speak out. I still think there's a long way
Speaker 2: for that to go, Like I do still feel like
Speaker 2: women aren't super comfortable with speaking out against their attackers.
Speaker 2: But I do think it's gotten a lot more, which
Speaker 2: is good, and just with the birth of social media
Speaker 2: and like all these TikTok detectives and all kind of
Speaker 2: stuff that played into this at all. But you know,
Speaker 2: just in today's age of information, I think is maybe
Speaker 2: what it is is, you know, people are getting caught
Speaker 2: for the illegal acts that they were doing back then,
Speaker 2: not realizing how prevalent it was going to be to
Speaker 2: rehash all of the issues that they were faced with
Speaker 2: back in the time where it wasn't so readily available.
Speaker 3: I guess yeah, because back then you're even more protected,
Speaker 3: Like nobody really cared, right and they everyone turned a
Speaker 3: blind eye, like if you had money, if you were famous, and.
Speaker 2: Even if they cared, it's like the burden of proof
Speaker 2: is so prevalent too, And now there is so much
Speaker 2: more access to information and the burden of proof is
Speaker 2: easier to acquire.
Speaker 3: And it's also crazy to me that you're doing these disgusting,
Speaker 3: despicable things and you have like it sounds like groups
Speaker 3: of people around who all have phones on them, like
Speaker 3: if you're doing these things just and that's probably where
Speaker 3: that like God complex and I'm untouchable aspect comes into it,
Speaker 3: where it's like nobody's gonna record me, nobody's gonna submit this,
Speaker 3: like I can just get away with anything.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well, it's one hundred percent what it is.
Speaker 2: You know, people like that millionaires on top of the world,
Speaker 2: selling out stadiums, developed this god complex where they feel
Speaker 2: like they can get away with anything, and for the
Speaker 2: longest time they do. But then, as we're seeing now
Speaker 2: with Diddy', it'll catch up with you and if you're
Speaker 2: a horrible person in the past, hopefully you get tried
Speaker 2: as such.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you mentioned that a lot of these are
Speaker 3: in the early two thousands, but also this one with
Speaker 3: Rodney Low Rod Jones is twenty twenty two and twenty
Speaker 3: twenty three.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, recent, very recent.
Speaker 3: And so record producer Rodney Lilrod Jones. This is coming
Speaker 3: from Newsweek dot Com sued Combs for thirty million dollars
Speaker 3: in February of this year, leveling a number of allegations
Speaker 3: against the rap icon. Jones worked with Combs on the
Speaker 3: most recent release, the love album Off the Grid, between
Speaker 3: September twenty twenty two and November twenty twenty three, so
Speaker 3: pretty recently he worked on that album with him, and
Speaker 3: he is accusing him of sexual misconduct and grooming, with
Speaker 3: the suit alleging that the rapper forcibly touched and attempted
Speaker 3: and or threatened to touch Jones's intimate parts and or
Speaker 3: touched Joe with his own intimate body parts, so like,
Speaker 3: this is happening now. And so when this firse popped
Speaker 3: up on my TikTok, he was like Diddy's house is
Speaker 3: being rated right now, Like what's going on? And immediately
Speaker 3: I go to the comments and people were commenting this
Speaker 3: is going to be like Epstein level. I'm like, how
Speaker 3: do you know? Like you're just speculating that, but it's
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's it just sounds like it
Speaker 3: might be on that level. Like it's so so bad.
Speaker 2: For all the great things that this information age has
Speaker 2: given us and presented us with. That's one of my
Speaker 2: biggest frustrations. People that have no idea of what's going on,
Speaker 2: have no inclination as to the severity of any situation.
Speaker 2: We'll get online and just start saying stuff. Yeah, not
Speaker 2: even assuming they'll start saying stuff as a fact.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, And it happens to me sometimes too, obviously to
Speaker 2: a much lesser degree. I posted something on I commented
Speaker 2: on Joey's post that I was happy for them. I
Speaker 2: was like, this makes me believe in love again, like
Speaker 2: being facetious like him and Kelsey obviously just being a
Speaker 2: silly little jokester, and people were commenting on like, you're
Speaker 2: married to Kaylin, she lived in a van with you.
Speaker 3: Okay, well that was kind of well I was just
Speaker 3: being funny and I no, but it doesn't really sound
Speaker 3: like you're being funny.
Speaker 1: It was one hundred percent of silly comment.
Speaker 2: But my point that I'm trying to make is people
Speaker 2: were this one person commented back, and it's so stupid
Speaker 2: that I even know that this person commented this, but
Speaker 2: it was it was harmless in the sense they were like, well, no,
Speaker 2: his van didn't even have a bed or a kitchen
Speaker 2: or anything. It was just a mattress in a regular van.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I was like, that's not true,
Speaker 2: Like it's not even true. Where do you get this from?
Speaker 2: But yeah, again, that's like a very small scale version
Speaker 2: of that. Just misinformation, people talking like they know the
Speaker 2: truth without having any understanding of what's going on at all.
Speaker 3: You know, That's all I have to say about Diddy.
Speaker 3: He doesn't get any more of our time. I do
Speaker 3: want to talk about Bridget Menler real quick.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I've been wanting to talk to you
Speaker 1: about this for weeks.
Speaker 3: Okay, so this just popped up on my Instagram last night,
Speaker 3: and I'm so mad that I didn't save the post.
Speaker 3: But it's like Bridget Menler's going viral lately because of
Speaker 3: her career and like her trajectory. So she was a
Speaker 3: Disney Channel star. She had her own show. This was
Speaker 3: like my little sister's Age of Disney and was so popular.
Speaker 3: She was also a singer, like a really great singer,
Speaker 3: and so it was like her songs having on YouTube
Speaker 3: like two hundred and twenty million views and like was
Speaker 3: number one for a while, huge, huge star, and she
Speaker 3: could have been like Miley Cyrus level, you know. And
Speaker 3: so I thought this was going to be like, yeah,
Speaker 3: where did she go? Like she just fell off? Turns
Speaker 3: out that she I wish I had like all of
Speaker 3: the stats, but I pulled up this article. She just
Speaker 3: launched a satellite data startup. The Vision is a data
Speaker 3: highway between Earth and space. She's like working all all
Speaker 3: in space. From a Disney Channel star to now, like
Speaker 3: I don't remember what college she went to, but she's
Speaker 3: so so smart. Do you have any thoughts?
Speaker 1: I have no idea who this person is. Nothing.
Speaker 3: It's just really cool to go from Disney to space.
Speaker 3: Do you not think that's awesome?
Speaker 1: That's good for Bridget.
Speaker 3: It is good for Bridget.
Speaker 1: I've never heard that name in my entire life.
Speaker 3: Well, she was my little sister's era of Disney. It
Speaker 3: was like Debbie Ryan and Bridget Mendler were the same
Speaker 3: kind of era. Maybe Bridget was a little bit before Debbie.
Speaker 3: I don't know, but I just think it's really really
Speaker 3: cool that she did this drastic pivot. And I'm so
Speaker 3: bummed that I can't figure out, but she had all
Speaker 3: these amazing things happening for her, Good for Bridget, like
Speaker 3: graduated from a very prestigious college.
Speaker 1: Snaps for Bridget.
Speaker 3: I just thought it was so fascinating when if we
Speaker 3: ever seen a Disney star where any actress go from
Speaker 3: that to space, it's pretty cool. Now she's a CEO
Speaker 3: as well. Wow, Disney Star turned space.
Speaker 1: Kylie's the CEO.
Speaker 3: Okay, but is she working in space?
Speaker 2: No, she's working on making sure everyone's skin on Earth
Speaker 2: is well hydrated.
Speaker 3: Yeah. I think it's really cool. Good for Bridget, Good
Speaker 3: for Bridget.
Speaker 1: More snaps.
Speaker 3: Two other things in pop culture. Some baby news. Ashley
Speaker 3: Tisfield announced her second baby. Do you know who that is? I?
Speaker 1: Think I've met Ashley before, or her sister. I think
Speaker 1: I've met them.
Speaker 3: It's possible you met Ashley. You have no idea what
Speaker 3: she was from.
Speaker 1: She was from Wizards of Waverley Place.
Speaker 3: That's Selena Gomez, but she was also in it. No, okay,
Speaker 3: Vanessa Hutchins. She was in a movie with Vanessa Hutchins.
Speaker 1: Ye, Waverley Place High School musical, That's what it was.
Speaker 3: He was Sharpei Evans, of course, shar Pei.
Speaker 1: Did you ever watch any other name for a kid?
Speaker 1: Shar Pei?
Speaker 3: Shar Pei.
Speaker 2: I've always wanted a shar Pei the dog. They're so cute,
Speaker 2: their little face wrinkles and rolls.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: I guess as a kid, I never knew she was
Speaker 3: named after a dog, shar Pei.
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe the dog was named after a fruit, and
Speaker 2: now she's named after the fruit that.
Speaker 1: The dog was also named after.
Speaker 3: Oh, Sharpe is a fruit?
Speaker 1: I have no idea. I'm just saying we don't know
Speaker 1: what the shar Pei was named after.
Speaker 3: Like Papianna is named after a butterfly. That's right, Okay,
Speaker 3: So did you ever Watch's Cool?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 3: No, he didn't.
Speaker 1: I did not.
Speaker 3: And then Suki Waterhouse just gave Bert to your baby
Speaker 3: with Robert Pattinson the Skier. No, I am the biggest
Speaker 3: Suki Waterhouse fan ever. I think she is the most beautiful,
Speaker 3: most talented person alive. And do you know who Robert
Speaker 3: Pattinson is?
Speaker 1: He was a Twilight and he was Batman. Wow, great
Speaker 1: to thank you.
Speaker 3: I thought that one would take longer.
Speaker 2: Raper Pattinson, He's good. He's a good actor. He got
Speaker 2: a little he got a bad he got a bad
Speaker 2: rap for Twilight. I think I think people kind of
Speaker 2: underestimated him because that movie was such cheesy and he
Speaker 2: didn't really get to like showcase his actings ability.
Speaker 1: But he's a really good actor.
Speaker 3: He's such a good actor. And I don't know if
Speaker 3: you've seen his interviews, but they're going viral too or
Speaker 3: they happen within the past year of him just making
Speaker 3: fun of Twilight. He's like, that was the worst movie ever. Like,
Speaker 3: I can't believe any of us did that. It was creepy.
Speaker 3: This guy is six hundred years old dating an eighteen
Speaker 3: year old, Like, why are we okay with this?
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's I think every time he gets announced for
Speaker 2: a role for a movie that I'm interested in seeing
Speaker 2: my like intuition is to not be excited, but then
Speaker 2: I remember that he because I think you always associate
Speaker 2: Rober Pattinson with Twilight, but.
Speaker 3: He poor Harry Potter.
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's in one Lue movie for like half of it,
Speaker 1: and he's.
Speaker 3: A pretty big character in it. Yes, he's murdered by Baltimore.
Speaker 1: He's a great character in it.
Speaker 2: But I'm saying like he's so talented, and it just
Speaker 2: thinks that he's kind of immemorialized as a Twilight actor
Speaker 2: when he's got so much talent.
Speaker 3: But I think he's done a really good job of
Speaker 3: working his way out of it.
Speaker 2: He is and he has and he like maybe just
Speaker 2: because I'm kind of like an uninitiated movie goer, but
Speaker 2: like if Jared was on this podcast, I'm sure he'd
Speaker 2: be raving about Robert Pattinson. But I'm saying, like that's
Speaker 2: kind of stinks that he's got the stigma of being
Speaker 2: a Twilight actor for people like me who aren't really
Speaker 2: into the movie sphere. But he is so good and
Speaker 2: he has grown out of it, and congratulations to him.
Speaker 3: You when you think of Taylor Watner, do you think
Speaker 3: of Twilight?
Speaker 1: Of course, because he hasn't really been in many movies
Speaker 1: since Twilight? Has he.
Speaker 3: Not a ton? I guess Kristin Stewart, do you think
Speaker 3: of Twilight?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 2: Okay, then she like kind of got out of it
Speaker 2: for a little bit, but then she hasn't really done
Speaker 2: much lately.
Speaker 3: She was just on Not Skinny But Not Fat's podcast,
Speaker 3: and she's so funny, and Amanda from Not Skinny Not
Speaker 3: Fat she was like, you seem like very like the
Speaker 3: most not basic person in the world, Like you don't
Speaker 3: even have a phone on you. She's like, I'm going
Speaker 3: to do some pop culture and and Kristen nailed it.
Speaker 3: She's like, who just retired from NFL? And she's like, oh,
Speaker 3: Travis Kelce's brother. And then she she was like asking
Speaker 3: her like all of these obscure pop culture questions and
Speaker 3: she got every single one right.
Speaker 1: That's cool.
Speaker 3: Yeah, she seems like she's doing great. She seems like
Speaker 3: a cool person.
Speaker 2: Honestly, she's kind of more of like a She doesn't
Speaker 2: have as much range as Robert Pattinson.
Speaker 1: I don't think.
Speaker 3: Oh, she was so good in Diana, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: she was Princess Diana and Diana. I think that was
Speaker 3: what the movie was called. But that was really good
Speaker 3: range for her. She crushed that role. I think that
Speaker 3: was her best she's ever been.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen it, so I guess I am wrong.
Speaker 3: You don't care about the Crown, so it makes sense
Speaker 3: you haven't seen it.
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't care one bit about the Crown.
Speaker 3: But you do care about Princess Kate.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sad that she has cancer. As a forty
Speaker 1: year old woman.
Speaker 2: That's brutal, and I kind of I'm kind of conflicted
Speaker 2: if like, let's say I got cancer, I would way
Speaker 2: rather get it at thirty five than at sixty five.
Speaker 3: Why Easier to fight it?
Speaker 2: Yeah, easier to fight you have a higher chances of survival.
Speaker 2: But yes, obviously Kate. Feel horrible for Kate. I feel
Speaker 2: really bad for Kate because of all of this stuff
Speaker 2: people were saying about her potentially happening, and then it
Speaker 2: comes out as this, And we talked about it last
Speaker 2: week on your podcast about now she has to address it.
Speaker 1: Maybe she wasn't ready to all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: but Easter.
Speaker 3: Is this, I think in a week. I think that's
Speaker 3: when she is planning on announcing it.
Speaker 2: So it sucks but at the same time too, like
Speaker 2: I'm sad when anyone gets cancer. I'm sad if someone
Speaker 2: in New Jersey that I've never read before gets cancer.
Speaker 2: It's kind of the same thing with Kate, Like I
Speaker 2: don't really care about Kate at all, just I feel
Speaker 2: bad that she has can horrible.
Speaker 3: Yeah, especially with I mean regardless, but especially with young
Speaker 3: kids too. Yeah, it's really hard. Well, yeah, that's gonna
Speaker 3: do it for this week's episode.
Speaker 1: That's it.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all the pop culture we got.
Speaker 1: What about Summer House?
Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, yes, thank you for reminding me. I
Speaker 3: have been trying. We were in Italy and I've been
Speaker 3: really trying to catch up on all of the reality TV.
Speaker 3: Didn't get to vander Pump because honestly, I'm exhausted by it.
Speaker 3: It's just it's so bad. It just it's like the
Speaker 3: most toxic show with everyone just being horrible except for Ali.
Speaker 3: I'm t Ali. I think she's wonderful. Summer House I'm
Speaker 3: not fully caught up on, but I've been watching. And
Speaker 3: you know, we have Lindsay on this podcast. Like a
Speaker 3: year ago her and Carl broke up. They were engaged.
Speaker 1: Did you know that I do not know that they
Speaker 1: broke up.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they were engaged.
Speaker 1: I forgot they were engaged.
Speaker 3: Planning their wedding. And she's been a little nutty this
Speaker 3: season and like coming after him. So Carl's been sober
Speaker 3: since his breath past like two years ago. Maybe I
Speaker 3: think he's two years sober, maybe three years, and she
Speaker 3: this season so far is like he smokes weed, but
Speaker 3: he doesn't drink or anything like that. And she she
Speaker 3: was sober with him, insolidarity with him in the beginning,
Speaker 3: but now she drinks again. So she's been drinking a
Speaker 3: lot this season, as she like is totally fine to do.
Speaker 3: But then when she gets drunk, she accuses Carl of
Speaker 3: doing drugs and not and Carl is saying that she's
Speaker 3: not specifying that it's weed. She's like saying accusing him of.
Speaker 2: Like you think like cocaine and yeah, the heroin or something, and.
Speaker 3: She's like, are you on something? Are you on something?
Speaker 3: Are you doing drugs? And so it's like, really you
Speaker 3: can tell eating away at Carl, and it makes sense
Speaker 3: that they broke up, but still so this hasn't aired yet,
Speaker 3: but he called in the cameras to break up with
Speaker 3: her on camera, which is really And it was right
Speaker 3: after scandalval, so it's like it kind of felt like,
Speaker 3: what are you trying to recreate another scandal?
Speaker 2: Maybe they were like on again, off again, and he
Speaker 2: knew that calling in the cameras would be like a
Speaker 2: final on the coffin, like we're done and the cameras
Speaker 2: are here to prove it, like this is I'm putting
Speaker 2: this to bed. Maybe maybe, and there's no going back
Speaker 2: now because the camera saw it.
Speaker 3: Maybe. Yeah. It's it's funny because when this happened this
Speaker 3: past summer, he broke up with her maybe in like September.
Speaker 3: It was all over the news. Everyone was talking about
Speaker 3: it and they were like, I can't believe Carl called
Speaker 3: in the cameras. That's so shady of him. But now
Speaker 3: watching the season, you're like, she's not really treating him
Speaker 3: well at all. Lindsay, like this guy, I mean, I
Speaker 3: can't imagine how hard sobriety is, but then accusing him
Speaker 3: of not being sober by your partner, by the one
Speaker 3: that's supposed to love you the most, just is not great.
Speaker 3: But there's a new character, Wes, who I think he
Speaker 3: would love in person and on television.
Speaker 1: It's a good name.
Speaker 3: I like that name West Yeah, under West Bell, I
Speaker 3: like it. I like it. He is the best character
Speaker 3: on Summer House that they brought in recently. Like, he's
Speaker 3: so good. Love Sierra. Also wish Hannah was on the show,
Speaker 3: But Sierra and West are kind of dating on the show,
Speaker 3: So I really love that for them because Sierrah is
Speaker 3: my favorite person on the show, and he's so funny
Speaker 3: and he's so charming and he's so like he can
Speaker 3: be self deprecating. He's like one of the girls and
Speaker 3: he's great. And then they cast this other guy who's
Speaker 3: like a little douchey. So I'm loving this season. I
Speaker 3: think it's pretty good. Yeah, I hope you can catch
Speaker 3: up with me.
Speaker 1: I'm so happy you're love loving it.
Speaker 3: You used to be really into that show and now
Speaker 3: not as much.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have my waves of interest in things, but
Speaker 2: I'm not going to like put it on. It's really
Speaker 2: just watching stuff with commercials. It's hard to stay invested. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So there's another show on Bravo called The Valley and
Speaker 3: I know one of the girls on it. So you've
Speaker 3: seen Old vander Pump, you know Jackson Brittany.
Speaker 1: Yeah, kind of so.
Speaker 3: They're on this season with Kristin who I don't know
Speaker 3: if you know, but Kristin is in vander Pump as well.
Speaker 3: And then this girl Nia, who did pageants, And it's
Speaker 3: so funny to me when pageant girls do reality TV
Speaker 3: because it goes against everything that we were trained to
Speaker 3: do for years and years. So it's funny to watch
Speaker 3: her just like try to not be this perfect pageant
Speaker 3: person and like fall into the Bravo universe. So it'll
Speaker 3: be interesting to watch her. But it's about the valley
Speaker 3: in La and being a parent and.
Speaker 1: Stuff great can't wait to watch.
Speaker 3: And the last thing I have to talk about is
Speaker 3: book Club. I started the book club book, which is
Speaker 3: The Nightingale, two days ago. I'm halfway through, so if
Speaker 3: you haven't read it, you're in chat about next week.
Speaker 2: Well, humble brag. I started two days ago, halfway down
Speaker 2: with this.
Speaker 3: My whole point in My whole point in that is
Speaker 3: that you can read it in a week.
Speaker 1: You can read it in a week.
Speaker 3: Anyone can read it in a week.
Speaker 1: It's mumus well mademoiselle.
Speaker 3: But it's a pretty good book. I'm very invested and
Speaker 3: I'm trying to get Deane to read it.
Speaker 1: Once I finish, I've read that words.
Speaker 3: Well anyways, that's going to do it for this week's episode.
Speaker 3: Be sure to tune in next week, where maybe we
Speaker 3: suck just a little bit less