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Speaker 2: The World's of Vegetal podcast Welcome to Patriots Unfiltered. Like

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Speaker 2: lead them, the lead, lead them, Paul, when you go

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Speaker 2: on your shows, you should you should say to like

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Speaker 2: to lead them. Please beat them here after everything we've

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Speaker 2: been through the last.

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Speaker 3: Couple of years. No, yes, that's right. So I actually

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Speaker 3: did this because I'm a nerd. And this what ideal?

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Speaker 4: Houston by fourteen and a half, Houston with a really

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Speaker 4: easy schedule.

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Speaker 1: Golly, mis molly and two goodness.

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Speaker 2: Gracious, all this talk about who would you rather face

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs? You're one of your places. NBC Sports

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Speaker 2: of Boston had a poll. Don't drag us into your polls.

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Speaker 2: Whoever's our opponent? That's who will.

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Speaker 5: Put madic about that at all?

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Speaker 1: To who do you want to face them?

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Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Tuesday. Here

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Speaker 2: richel Let's stadium. And why don't I have a light

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Speaker 2: on on any cameras? I don't know anyway, no talent today,

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Speaker 2: so we don't know which cameras are on. I'm thinking

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Speaker 2: it's this one. But yes, so huge win, huge, huge.

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Speaker 4: It's a true professional right there. Just you know, we

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Speaker 4: have a little bit of a glitch going on. He

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Speaker 4: just he fought right through it, even he lasted ten

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Speaker 2: I like to show people behind the scenes how the

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Speaker 2: sausages to be hard.

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Speaker 1: If you have to go to your one for something.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but you know, I start right off the bat.

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Speaker 2: Great win, great win. I don't care how it transpired.

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Speaker 2: You beat Baltimore in Baltimore, desperate team, bad matchup, you

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Speaker 2: knew that going in, tons of injuries, bad refereeing. You're

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Speaker 2: still you still want, You're still want. And now the

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Speaker 2: Patriots are in the playoffs. Yep, nothing that can happen

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Speaker 2: that can take the playoffs, the Patriots out of the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: No, nice to do it on your terms too. I

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Speaker 1: didn't really want to wait till you know, oh this

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Speaker 1: team lost and all of a sudden, you know, on

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Speaker 1: the Sunday night or Monday night, you.

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Speaker 2: Know, we're in the playoffs. So it was nice to

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Speaker 2: be able to do it on your turn steal your

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Speaker 2: own fate. So I love it. I love it. Uh,

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Speaker 2: it's Paul, it's Deuce. Will even be by. He's always

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Speaker 2: just decided to take time off to eat a sandwich.

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Speaker 2: Most of us wait till a break and then we eat.

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Speaker 2: But you know that's all right.

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Speaker 1: Couldn't he couldn't do it.

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Speaker 3: I have friends in the mafia.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, to be able to watch yourself, and they'll work

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Speaker 2: at Jersey Mikes.

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Speaker 1: Uh okay, which, by the way, it's a pretty good

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Speaker 1: story about Jersey Mikes with Evan. I know we never

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Speaker 2: That later, but I know people Tuesday, people want to

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Speaker 2: talk about this Baltimore game, what it means. Obviously, we

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Speaker 2: af C East. Yet that can happen this coming week.

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Speaker 2: If the Patriots win and Buffalo loses, then they automatically

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Speaker 2: get the a f C East this week. So still

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Speaker 2: a lot to play for. Obviously, in the regular season.

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Speaker 3: There is Evan.

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Speaker 2: Hi, you're good.

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Speaker 3: Sorry, I was finishing my sandwich. Why don't you wait

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Speaker 3: till the break? I don't know. I jumped the gun

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Speaker 2: Got a nice haircut.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, just got it this morning. G and L yep,

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Speaker 3: G and A. It's okay, G and A.

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Speaker 1: I went in there and it didn't really seem like

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Speaker 2: You didn't say it. You should have like a little

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Speaker 2: I had time. I do it all right. So where

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Speaker 2: do you want to start with this game? I mean

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Speaker 2: a three hundred plus yard game. What about the other

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Speaker 2: part you cut it out?

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Speaker 5: Did you get I gave you. People were talking over you,

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Speaker 5: but I gave you your props.

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Speaker 2: Thank you. I heard you. We said that every week.

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Speaker 2: I heard you. I heard it.

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Speaker 5: It was just Paul Snart.

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Speaker 2: I heard you.

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Speaker 5: But you do say it every week?

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Speaker 2: No, I don't.

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Speaker 5: Is that why you got mad at me yesterday? When

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Speaker 2: I was busy lead three yard and you nailed it and

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Speaker 4: Okay it Yeah, did you bring the Penske file?

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Speaker 5: It was a great win.

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Speaker 1: And I mean, I admit early on it was frustrating.

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Speaker 1: but all credit to Drake there at the end. That

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Speaker 2: It was how close it was.

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Speaker 1: I mean that the past before was like I still

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Speaker 2: He'll always do it.

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Speaker 1: But at least you have some evidence now, I mean,

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Speaker 4: Had to be perfect in the last twelve minutes and

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was another one I was interested to talk

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Speaker 3: Some GF Counteryeah, yeah, a couple of times.

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Speaker 1: Everybody chasing Remondre on that last one, and they ran

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Speaker 3: First time and Ramon he handed it off, and so

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Speaker 3: Yeah, the low red zone stuff last week against Buffalo

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Speaker 3: But I think that, you know, my whole like feeling

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Speaker 3: when they got down eleven points, like you just don't

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Speaker 3: you know, that's not a small thing because you're not

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Speaker 3: great out of the shoot every single week. You're gonna

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Speaker 2: You know, the rainbow of Kyle Williams, you know, right

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Speaker 5: Yeah, that was a good Yeah, that was a good shot.

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Speaker 1: What was the feeling in the stadium though, I'm just

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Speaker 1: just did you feel like the angst from the Ravens

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Speaker 3: It was a cool atmosphere because before the game, they

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Speaker 3: really think that there was a whole.

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Speaker 2: Lon't It wasn't like we've been there or I've been

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Speaker 2: there for games where you know, Ravens are rolling and

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Speaker 2: they're doing the chant and everything, you know, the White

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Speaker 2: Stripe song, and it's it's pretty intimidating. Didn't get that

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Speaker 4: the Henry fumble, I think I haven't really felt all

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Speaker 4: when they've been on the heels, I haven't felt like

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Speaker 4: they were on the verge of like really really bad stuff.

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Speaker 4: I think they were on the verge of getting boat raced.

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Speaker 5: It was close during the postgame couple of.

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Speaker 4: Times, but the way I just you don't want to

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Speaker 4: to Mike, this is what the Ravens do. Nobody blows

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Speaker 5: Score and put game pressure on Baltimore, and they did.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, no, I I mean I didn't love the

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Speaker 5: As a side.

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Speaker 4: When they say if they lost the game twenty four

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Speaker 4: What do you think the reaction would have been to

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I mean we're able. Took full responsibility today

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Speaker 1: I don't know what you thought. I it sounded like

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Speaker 2: You know, and just give west Over a chain.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, just gives over.

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Speaker 3: I don't. I always go back and forth with things

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Speaker 4: I wouldn't have loved this one if it went for

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Speaker 3: But I hear what you're saying, but like all you

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Speaker 3: I would wonder, and I didn't get a chance to

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Speaker 3: there was an option to check out of it. Because

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Speaker 3: so normally, like you wouldn't want to call that into

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Speaker 5: But didn't it look like they did that the previous

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Speaker 3: The previous time that they punted, they were in a

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Speaker 4: And give them credit. Give Baltimore credit the reason why

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Speaker 4: I didn't like it. And you're right if everybody just

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Speaker 4: it's result oriented. But you're playing the backup quarterback. You're,

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Speaker 4: you know, in a tight game. It's a tight kind

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Speaker 4: It's fourth and ten, you know, not fourth and three.

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Speaker 4: Just play field position and make Tyler Huntley drive the

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Speaker 4: I mean they threw He threw ten passes for sixty

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Speaker 4: one hundred yards like one hundred and one yards, like, well,

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Speaker 4: maybe they thought there was no there was no way

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Speaker 5: Maybe him playing quarterback.

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Speaker 2: Well, maybe they didn't think that Derrick Henry was going

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Speaker 4: No, but he did play in that drive and he

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Speaker 4: but like maybe instead of making them go fifty yards

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Speaker 4: make them go eighty four yards for a touchdown, and

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Speaker 4: if they do it, you tip your cap and say

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Speaker 4: they did it.

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Speaker 3: You guys, are right.

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Speaker 2: I just try to figure out like what they were thinking.

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Speaker 3: maybe it's.

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Speaker 2: A field goal that is aunt of time.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, right, But I don't think I think they thought

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Speaker 4: Oh, I totally think you don't. You don't rawl that

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Speaker 4: if you don't think it's gonna work.

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Speaker 3: No, I just mean like, I don't think that it

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Speaker 5: Just you know, I agree, I totally do it. I

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Speaker 4: I just feel like I might think I have a

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Speaker 4: look in this game, and I'm sure it was specific

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Speaker 4: I get that I would say, let's keep that one

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Speaker 4: in this game, not necessarily, you know, it was lower scoring,

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Speaker 4: you didn't need you know. In other words, being down

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Speaker 4: they fought their way out of it and they were

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I obviously you know, the Abel fell on the

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Speaker 3: there is a fake potentially coming. So you would have

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Speaker 3: liked to have just seen them check out of it,

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Speaker 3: punt it, and you know, keep that one for another day.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest thing to me too, is

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Speaker 3: something and like now it's on tape, Like now now

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Speaker 3: into that whole thing about it too. So I just

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Speaker 2: I like to focus on the positive things. Not only kidding,

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Speaker 2: but I big shout out to remondre Steve. I was

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Speaker 2: just gonna bring him up with Henderson going down, he's

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Speaker 1: Vintage kind of you know performance from him. We had

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Speaker 1: I was like, Remondre, just so you know, we're in

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Speaker 4: I don't know if I've ever spoken to him, like

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Speaker 3: Had a great one on Kyle Hamilton.

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Speaker 5: Unbelievable, like two or three times, guys.

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Speaker 4: You know, there was one and it looked like he

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Speaker 4: they sent somebody wide and he still got out there

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Speaker 5: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: It was also really interesting. He said on the on

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Speaker 1: as he got that corner, you know, everybody knew.

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Speaker 2: The second I.

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Speaker 1: Think it was like Jered Wilson, like the second he

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Speaker 4: Kyle Williams, so you know, made sure he screened off

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Speaker 4: that last guy. Yeah, couple of guys went contributions by

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Speaker 1: That's it, Paul, I mean, that's what this team is

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Speaker 1: Stefon Diggs, mac Hollins, Like every single one of those

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Speaker 1: but that didn't get hurt. I mean, that's what's just

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Speaker 4: That's the one the one thing to worry about going forward.

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Speaker 4: I think they had nine guys leave the game at

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Speaker 4: some point and and Jared Wilson and that doesn't count.

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Speaker 1: Jared Wilson, Jerry Wilson. Concussion. What Rabel said today by

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Speaker 2: A concussion as an offensive lineman?

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Speaker 5: And who's a lot of concussions for uscussion.

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Speaker 3: Henderson, boy boy Henderson.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we saw get the Booty.

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Speaker 4: One of the plays that the booty, you know, the

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Speaker 4: booty play was the play you got passing passing offense,

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Speaker 4: which I know you guys think that I'm crazy.

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Speaker 7: Did that one.

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Speaker 5: Just gonna leave that one right there, but that one smelled.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it should be an investigrate and I'm not exaggerating.

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Speaker 5: I'll leave it at that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: Uh.

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Speaker 4: And I'm not talking this game. I'm talking all games.

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Speaker 4: That's that's the difference between me and you.

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Speaker 2: The other guy.

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Speaker 1: I would like to give a little bit of a

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Speaker 1: having to make some tackle, you know, I just I

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Speaker 1: liked what he brought on a defense where they just

443
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Speaker 1: needed somebody to make some tackles and make some plays,

444
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Speaker 1: and he did make some plays. It wasn't you know.

445
00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:22,400
Speaker 1: It's a misstackles too, But at the same time, without Spallane,

446
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Speaker 1: I just thought his effort really, you know, it's like

447
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Speaker 1: you feel like the line was right in the middle

448
00:19:27,160 --> 00:19:29,360
Speaker 1: and he did just enough to keep you above that line.

449
00:19:29,400 --> 00:19:31,359
Speaker 1: I thought defensively. So it's just one guy to me

450
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Speaker 1: that that when I watched it against.

451
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Speaker 2: Good stuff, good stuff, and you know, Raybel called out

452
00:19:35,640 --> 00:19:38,639
Speaker 2: Gonzales after the game, saying that he stepped up, you know,

453
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Speaker 2: kind of something clicked when they really needed it most.

454
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Speaker 2: He had a good game, playing a little special teams

455
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Speaker 2: tackle on Derrick Henry. Uh. And we should mention that

456
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Speaker 2: he and Drake May are Pro bowlers. Drake May his

457
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Speaker 2: first time, he'll be the.

458
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Speaker 1: How do we tackle that?

459
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Speaker 3: How do we tackle second time?

460
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Speaker 8: Right?

461
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Speaker 1: And then then truly first and then like technically Mac

462
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Speaker 1: Jones made it in twenty twenty, but like not really

463
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Speaker 1: like you know, it's like you go.

464
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Speaker 2: Through the whole time.

465
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Speaker 3: Drake May. His answer about that today was hilarious. He's like,

466
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Speaker 3: I didn't deserve to be there last year. Like he

467
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Speaker 3: you know, came out and said, like last year was ridiculous.

468
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Speaker 3: He was like, I think they came to the as

469
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Speaker 3: the last person they asked, and I finally got somebody

470
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Speaker 3: that said yes that they would go.

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Speaker 5: That's about the marking his coin.

472
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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, the thing is he won't be able to

473
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Speaker 2: play this year, hopefully Super Bowls.

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Speaker 1: Drake Also, so we heard from mil Williams today who

475
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Speaker 1: v Abel said, we'll begin practicing. Talked to him in

476
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Speaker 1: the locker room. He said that he was glad he

477
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Speaker 1: didn't need surgery. That's when he knew that he wouldn't

478
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Speaker 1: he'd be able to come back. We asked him if

479
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Speaker 1: he would be able to if he thought he'd be

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Speaker 1: able to play this weekend. He said he needs to

481
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Speaker 1: get out there and see. But he did say he

482
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Speaker 1: has been running, didn't have surgery, been really hard watching

483
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Speaker 1: the games on TV. So we'll see. If they get

484
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Speaker 1: him back, it would be a huge boost. And another thing,

485
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Speaker 1: I saw Spalline in the locker room. No walking boot

486
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Speaker 1: this time.

487
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Speaker 2: Okay, good means it was anybody.

488
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Speaker 3: It was on the floor right next to it.

489
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Speaker 4: He just wasn't did anybody see the team actually depart

490
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Speaker 4: the locker room? And if he had any no, no, no, no, no, no,

491
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Speaker 4: none of those.

492
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Speaker 2: But it was a kind of a sparse locker room.

493
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Speaker 5: I was.

494
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Speaker 1: I was kind of, you know, taking in who was

495
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Speaker 1: in there, who wasn't. Maybe guys were I think they

496
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Speaker 1: were going into a team meeting, so it wasn't quite

497
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Speaker 1: the same as guys getting ready at their lockers and

498
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Speaker 1: you know they need to be in the locker room

499
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Speaker 1: to get their pats on and stuff. So I think

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Speaker 1: we're all just really curious to see tomorrow what the

501
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Speaker 1: what the injury report looks.

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Speaker 2: I think in the fourth quarter there was a time

503
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Speaker 2: where I think it was that last drive and I

504
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Speaker 2: returned to Evan he said, he did, he did.

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Speaker 1: I heard you guys had some interesting neighbors up in

506
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Speaker 1: the press box down there in Baltimore.

507
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Speaker 3: I don't know.

508
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Speaker 2: Well, they have a new press box in Baltimore. They

509
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Speaker 2: moved it to the of the end zone, and you're like,

510
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Speaker 2: it is tight. It's tight, like you can't get up

511
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Speaker 2: from your chair once you're in.

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Speaker 3: I know, I know what was We had to go

513
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Speaker 3: to a game and for free, but it was one

514
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Speaker 3: of the worst press boxes.

515
00:22:06,240 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 2: So that did it made it worse.

516
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Speaker 3: Rival rivals, the Miami Dolphins at hard Rock Stadium, for

517
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Speaker 3: the made worse. Now the Commander is Washington in their

518
00:22:18,040 --> 00:22:21,640
Speaker 3: current stadium is also horrible. I could go down a list,

519
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Speaker 3: but for me, all I care about is vantage point.

520
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Speaker 3: Like I don't necessarily care about the press box itself,

521
00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: but like you know me, I want to have a

522
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Speaker 3: nice view of the field.

523
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Speaker 4: There's a lot in corners corner. Yeah, yeah, but at

524
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Speaker 4: least here it's high. The Washington one that Evan's talking about,

525
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Speaker 4: I don't know if it's still this way corner, you

526
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Speaker 4: get no prospective, you can't see anything.

527
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Speaker 3: It is absolutely terrible. The whole stadium is terrible. That's

528
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Speaker 3: why that's why they're getting rid of a new one.

529
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Speaker 1: Do you guys like being in the middle though, I

530
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Speaker 1: don't know. I always look at like Reese on the

531
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Speaker 1: because they're kind of like on the bend in our

532
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Speaker 1: press box, and they almost have for the end zone

533
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Speaker 1: view were more in the corner.

534
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Speaker 2: The end zone is not good for perspective. Like you

535
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Speaker 2: see a pass go up and you don't know really

536
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:08,159
Speaker 2: how high it is or low it is, and it's hard.

537
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Speaker 5: For twenty six seasons.

538
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Speaker 4: I'll let you know when I can tell if a

539
00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,840
Speaker 4: pass is going to get tipped or picked or not.

540
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Speaker 5: I lose the depth every single time.

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Speaker 3: I only care about height, Like I don't care if

542
00:23:20,760 --> 00:23:22,240
Speaker 3: it's in the middle or if it's in the corner,

543
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Speaker 3: but it.

544
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Speaker 5: Needs to be hot.

545
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Speaker 3: So like that's why I disagree with some people that

546
00:23:28,040 --> 00:23:32,640
Speaker 3: like the fifty yard line, like like Nashville like Tennessee

547
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Speaker 3: is like fifty yard low because it's too low. So

548
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Speaker 3: now I'm like, it's you know, you can't see like

549
00:23:38,520 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: all the players, you know, and how the play is developing.

550
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Speaker 5: I much like the metal Lands. Yeah, I love the

551
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Speaker 5: metal Lands. That's a little high.

552
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Speaker 3: I love the Metal Lands. I like our press box.

553
00:23:48,320 --> 00:23:53,440
Speaker 3: I think, I think Jillette. It's perfect. It's up top high.

554
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Speaker 5: It's perfect to me because I have you guys next

555
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Speaker 5: to me.

556
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Speaker 3: New Orleans was great.

557
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Speaker 5: Who is that?

558
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Speaker 1: Like? I can't And it's the.

559
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Speaker 3: Best, the best ones. Allegiant Vegas, Vegas fifty yard line high, high, high,

560
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Speaker 3: up top. I got the bird's eye view. You're right

561
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Speaker 3: in the middle. Chef's kiss perfect. All right, there's your

562
00:24:15,960 --> 00:24:20,600
Speaker 3: press box. Good press box talked by Okay, I'm very spoiled.

563
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Speaker 3: I get to go to all these games.

564
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Speaker 2: So so things are looking good for the Patriots, except

565
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Speaker 2: for those injuries that we started to help is.

566
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Speaker 4: A concern, you know, and Morgan Moses obviously battling through something.

567
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Speaker 4: I'm not sure that they had designs on him going

568
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:37,159
Speaker 4: back in that game. If if Mumford didn't end up

569
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Speaker 4: getting banged up. Ultimately they both finished the game those

570
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Speaker 4: two guys are going to be worth monitoring. The depth

571
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Speaker 4: is getting tested.

572
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Speaker 2: We don't know if Boody's gonna be back in, but

573
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Speaker 2: the road is clearing for Chisholm to make his playoff run.

574
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Speaker 1: They got to get him in and get get him in.

575
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Speaker 4: Talk about you know we have we talked about May

576
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Speaker 4: and Gonzales getting their Pro Bowl nominations.

577
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Speaker 5: What about the snub for Booty? You guys all right

578
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:05,000
Speaker 5: with that? Fred?

579
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Speaker 2: He's being Booty Fred.

580
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Speaker 3: I thought he was gonna say, what about what about.

581
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Speaker 2: The snub for Marcus Jones?

582
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Speaker 7: Yeah?

583
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Speaker 1: I mean Brabel talked about that too.

584
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Speaker 5: So I don't understand. They had a kick returner but

585
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Speaker 5: not a punt returner on this So.

586
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Speaker 3: I've been told it's a returner, they call it kick returner.

587
00:25:21,680 --> 00:25:25,320
Speaker 3: But Mary Dka with the Titans, he returns punts and kickoffs.

588
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Speaker 3: So he had Marcus Jones's punt production plus production as

589
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Speaker 3: a kickoff returner, so he.

590
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Speaker 1: Got to pick a returner.

591
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Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't have any problem with that if if

592
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Speaker 4: DK had better, But I don't understand why they wouldn't

593
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Speaker 4: have both positions.

594
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Speaker 3: They just have one return.

595
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Speaker 5: Two different things.

596
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Speaker 4: Now in that case, the same guy does it, but

597
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Speaker 4: not not everybody has it like that.

598
00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's that's just.

599
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Speaker 5: Marcus Jones should be the punt returner.

600
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Speaker 3: Come on, that's just the way.

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Speaker 5: That's just poor to me the way it is.

602
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Speaker 2: Yeah, poor to me. You don't like that?

603
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I don't like what my crushes get snub.

604
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Speaker 2: Okay, what else.

605
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Speaker 1: Garrett Bradberry is the good guy of the year for

606
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Speaker 1: anyone who cares.

607
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:08,200
Speaker 3: Oh, he's great.

608
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Speaker 1: Good guy.

609
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Speaker 2: So the media loves him, they do.

610
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Speaker 3: He's easy to like.

611
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Speaker 2: He's uh but like.

612
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Speaker 3: He's one of those guys that that we'll talk to

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Speaker 3: you one on one and have conversations with you at

614
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Speaker 3: his locker a lot. He kind of just sits there

615
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Speaker 3: and holds court.

616
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Speaker 2: Often.

617
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Speaker 3: You're not a big like you know, obviously don't bring

618
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Speaker 3: this center other than like David Andrews at the end

619
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Speaker 3: to like podiums and stuff like that very often, but

620
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Speaker 3: he's there, like what am I doing up here? Yeah?

621
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Speaker 3: He kind of always like is it you know, willing

622
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Speaker 3: to talk. He gives thoughtful answers, you know that that

623
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Speaker 3: sort of thing. So he's really.

624
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Speaker 2: Held down that center position all he played well.

625
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Speaker 4: Yeah, he's played played well. I think he's succeeded a certainly.

626
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Speaker 1: My exp question. Quick example, we have an employee here

627
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Speaker 1: who unfortunately his son suffered an injury playing high school sports,

628
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Speaker 1: and brad Berry was full on asking him all about it,

629
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Speaker 1: getting all the details you know you can. It's as

630
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Speaker 1: you could see, like.

631
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Speaker 5: A really first year player obviously doesn't know.

632
00:27:04,920 --> 00:27:09,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Anyway, okay, I'm trying to think if there's anything

633
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:10,720
Speaker 2: else about the game itself.

634
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Speaker 3: And we didn't talk about Diggs.

635
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:13,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, well Diggs had a great game.

636
00:27:14,000 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: Diggs is just going off, was going off. Yeah, I

637
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,080
Speaker 3: mean he was. He was tremendous.

638
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,320
Speaker 2: I like the way he was, you know, snatching the

639
00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:23,320
Speaker 2: ball and then the yards after catch. Yeah, you know,

640
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:24,640
Speaker 2: is it?

641
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Speaker 1: I mean it's like, why doesn't look that way every week?

642
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,800
Speaker 3: You know, just thirty two years old coming out? Yeah,

643
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Speaker 3: I think that he gets up for these primetime games.

644
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Speaker 2: Uh.

645
00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:37,919
Speaker 3: Baltimore's his hometown, so it was a it was a

646
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 3: homecoming for him as well playoff games to hopefully but yeah,

647
00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,360
Speaker 3: he uh, I mean this was a clinic like mans

648
00:27:46,440 --> 00:27:50,920
Speaker 3: zone inside outside, but just it didn't matter. I mean,

649
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:53,800
Speaker 3: he beating Marlon Humphrey like a drum across the field,

650
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 3: a couple of times they.

651
00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:55,640
Speaker 1: Were beating him a lot.

652
00:27:55,800 --> 00:27:58,280
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, he might be washed forty four.

653
00:27:58,520 --> 00:27:59,440
Speaker 1: Are they going after him?

654
00:27:59,520 --> 00:27:59,720
Speaker 2: Yeah?

655
00:27:59,760 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 3: I mean some of the like conversions and his feel

656
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:06,160
Speaker 3: for zone coverage is just unbelievable. You know, the way

657
00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:09,080
Speaker 3: that he just knows where to settle and where to

658
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,520
Speaker 3: find those openings. You know, the fourth down play, the

659
00:28:11,560 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 3: game winning drive was inches from being intercepted or broken

660
00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,000
Speaker 3: up and he turns it into a twenty one yard

661
00:28:17,080 --> 00:28:19,919
Speaker 3: game was he was an animal. I mean, he was

662
00:28:20,000 --> 00:28:23,240
Speaker 3: unbelievable in this game. And I think the positive is

663
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Speaker 3: is like you can see, all right, he's when he's

664
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Speaker 3: got it, like he can go back and get it right.

665
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: Like he might not be like this every single week

666
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,280
Speaker 3: at this stage of his career, but when it's the

667
00:28:33,320 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 3: stakes are high and it's a big game and he's

668
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,720
Speaker 3: feeling it, like he can go out there and be

669
00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 3: the best player on the field and then maybe the quarterback.

670
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,920
Speaker 3: So it was this was vintage Stefan Diggs, like he

671
00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:45,000
Speaker 3: was putting on a clinic.

672
00:28:45,600 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 2: Yep. Good stuff. And I guess he got a little

673
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,800
Speaker 2: bit of money. He's got bonuses in his contract for

674
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:54,360
Speaker 2: going over seventy eighty and ninety catches. Okay, so he

675
00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 2: got a half a million dollars. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

676
00:28:57,080 --> 00:29:00,680
Speaker 3: He's on pace for nine hundred and eighty five yards

677
00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,479
Speaker 3: on the season right now. So I don't know if

678
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:06,000
Speaker 3: he's gonna you know, how much these not two games

679
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,920
Speaker 3: are gonna mean in terms of his participation in them.

680
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 3: But yeah, you know he's getting right now, you know,

681
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:14,520
Speaker 3: eight sixty and.

682
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: Drake could very likely get over four thousand, assuming that

683
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 2: he plays both games fully.

684
00:29:19,360 --> 00:29:23,720
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, eight sixty nine. Yeah, he's up.

685
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 1: To to get it. I bet he gets it a

686
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,520
Speaker 1: thousand yards. I think it's important to him.

687
00:29:27,960 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 2: Cool. Yeah, yeah, And I'm coming off the ACL I mean.

688
00:29:32,120 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean that's to me, that's big.

689
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, good stuff.

690
00:29:37,320 --> 00:29:39,680
Speaker 2: I mean we were thinking of well, I don't want

691
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: to give away some content idea until.

692
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 7: We do it.

693
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:42,720
Speaker 1: I don't do it.

694
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 5: One more thing.

695
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,600
Speaker 9: Ben Brown signing a contact extension on did you say

696
00:29:46,600 --> 00:29:50,480
Speaker 9: that Drake May you know, should get two thousand. I

697
00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:54,000
Speaker 9: mean disaster struck if he doesn't get four thirty six

698
00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,960
Speaker 9: thirty forty seven.

699
00:29:56,240 --> 00:29:56,440
Speaker 8: Oh.

700
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:58,920
Speaker 5: I was thinking to myself, I thought he already had four.

701
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: Thousand, But then I was reading something today that he

702
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 2: had like thirty six something before the game.

703
00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 5: Yeah, he had three eighty in the game.

704
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:08,960
Speaker 2: Okay, maybe it was something old I was reading. Yeah,

705
00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,280
Speaker 2: so he'll he'll get over four thousand.

706
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,120
Speaker 5: In the first quarter. Probably he'll get over throw.

707
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:19,040
Speaker 3: He is uh. He now leads the league in total QBR,

708
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 3: he's second in e paper drop back and just reading

709
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,320
Speaker 3: some of the people that do have MVP votes, I

710
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:27,160
Speaker 3: think a lot of people after the Bills game were like,

711
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:29,320
Speaker 3: he's not now, he's not going to win MVP. You know,

712
00:30:29,400 --> 00:30:30,960
Speaker 3: he's kind of out of it, you know, so to

713
00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 3: speak with Stafford and Allen's push, but not so fast,

714
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 3: my friend. I mean, I I think he's right there. Yeah,

715
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,080
Speaker 3: I think he's right.

716
00:30:39,160 --> 00:30:43,160
Speaker 2: So we should talk about it because I'm a little

717
00:30:43,200 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 2: bit annoyed. First of all, I'm very annoyed at my

718
00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:52,320
Speaker 2: bloggers early game. I don't remember being so disappointed in

719
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:55,680
Speaker 2: Patriots Fall. That's worse. I mean, yeah, things weren't going good,

720
00:30:55,800 --> 00:31:00,000
Speaker 2: and it wasn't like like I I'm all for criticism,

721
00:31:00,320 --> 00:31:02,440
Speaker 2: like oh so and so is having a bad game,

722
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 2: or they're doing this, they're playing too much. That's fine,

723
00:31:05,360 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 2: but this is what I'm hearing. This team is trash.

724
00:31:08,560 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 2: I hate this team. We suck again. No, that's all

725
00:31:12,560 --> 00:31:15,760
Speaker 2: it was. It was just like, then what are you

726
00:31:15,800 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 2: watching for?

727
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:17,560
Speaker 1: Leave?

728
00:31:18,240 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: It was really disappointing. And then once they started coming back,

729
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:24,240
Speaker 2: it was silence. You know, so like where were you then?

730
00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,200
Speaker 2: You know, It's just that was disappointing. The other thing

731
00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 2: that this is more kind of annoying was this whole

732
00:31:30,600 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: thing about Drake. He needed this game. So were you

733
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:36,400
Speaker 2: telling me that if he came up a little short

734
00:31:36,400 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 2: in this game, that's it? He's not the guy. I mean, like,

735
00:31:40,760 --> 00:31:43,920
Speaker 2: I don't know, we put too much emphasis on what

736
00:31:44,240 --> 00:31:48,160
Speaker 2: just happened until instead of like really looking at it

737
00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:50,600
Speaker 2: holistically and saying, no, this kid's going to be good.

738
00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 2: He's not completely baked yet. He's still you know, need

739
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 2: to keep him in the oven a little bit longer

740
00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,600
Speaker 2: as most people are in the NFL. It takes your time.

741
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,840
Speaker 2: But yeah, like I have no doubt that he's going

742
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: to be really good. You know, this game is another check,

743
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 2: you know, box check, but that the comeback was going

744
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,160
Speaker 2: to come eventually. Yeah, you know, so like all these

745
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 2: people like, okay, now we can put that one away. Well,

746
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,600
Speaker 2: what if he never has another comeback? And it's like

747
00:32:19,240 --> 00:32:20,200
Speaker 2: it's so stupid.

748
00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, to me, it's just it's fun watching him get

749
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: experience and good and bad and that's all going to

750
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: help him in the long run. And we're in this

751
00:32:28,320 --> 00:32:31,720
Speaker 1: for the long run. The other NFL FRAN thirty one teams,

752
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,400
Speaker 1: how many of those teams would want Drake.

753
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: Me right now? You know, probably thirty of them, right.

754
00:32:36,800 --> 00:32:41,239
Speaker 2: But but like people around here, we are so spoiled. Well,

755
00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 2: that's like we've seen excellence at its highest level and

756
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:48,360
Speaker 2: our expectation is there and it's just so unrealistic. Meanwhile,

757
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:52,360
Speaker 2: we've got this kid who you know, he's lights out.

758
00:32:52,680 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 2: He's he's amazing, he's got all the tools. He makes

759
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 2: mistakes and then he corrects them, you know, so you

760
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,760
Speaker 2: can see that he's coachable, he's everything you want in

761
00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 2: a quarterback. And until he has that game, we can't

762
00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:08,120
Speaker 2: trust him. It's like, oh god, come on.

763
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: The only comparison that I can think of watching him

764
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,480
Speaker 3: throw the deep ball is like watching Steph Curry shoot threes, right, like.

765
00:33:15,520 --> 00:33:16,440
Speaker 2: Just like launching a movie.

766
00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,840
Speaker 3: Like Steph Curry like hit a thirty footer off the

767
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,720
Speaker 3: dribble and you're just like that, is that a human

768
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 3: being doing that, just threw it to the moon and

769
00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:27,600
Speaker 3: somehow right where. Yeah, and that's that's watching him throw

770
00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:30,120
Speaker 3: deep Like watching him throw the ball down the field

771
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 3: is like so aesthetically pleasing, but it's also so damn good.

772
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:40,640
Speaker 3: Like it's unbelievable, not.

773
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: A lot of effort. It's just like he's got the.

774
00:33:43,520 --> 00:33:46,240
Speaker 3: Arm and you're almost like, as the ball is in

775
00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:48,640
Speaker 3: the air going to Kyle Williams, I'm like, I didn't

776
00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 3: put my hands up, but I was already like touchdown,

777
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 3: but you're just like, you know, it's just going to

778
00:33:52,560 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 3: be right on his hands. Like it's just uncanny how

779
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,040
Speaker 3: good he throws the ball down the field, And like

780
00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 3: the numbers back that up. And he's four for five

781
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 3: in this game, and the only incompletion was the booty play,

782
00:34:03,560 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 3: which should have been past interference, so you know, it

783
00:34:05,960 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 3: really wasn't a true incompletion and he just you know,

784
00:34:09,960 --> 00:34:13,160
Speaker 3: like I said earlier, the amount of high level plus

785
00:34:13,200 --> 00:34:15,120
Speaker 3: plays whatever you want to call it, that he made

786
00:34:15,120 --> 00:34:17,800
Speaker 3: in this game was just every single time I felt

787
00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,520
Speaker 3: like I was writing, well, they had a jail break

788
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:22,520
Speaker 3: on the left side, he steps up in the pocket,

789
00:34:22,840 --> 00:34:25,279
Speaker 3: you know, finds digs over the middle. Another you know,

790
00:34:25,640 --> 00:34:29,120
Speaker 3: Blitzer comes in, you know bludes it throws the ball

791
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:32,479
Speaker 3: down the field. You know, Kyle Williams touchdown, just over

792
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 3: and over again, just making just unbelievable play after unbelievable plays.

793
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 1: So special, and like I remember watching it happen, even

794
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 1: you know, going back to last year's training camp and

795
00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 1: to see him consistently do it, that's what's amazing to me.

796
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,279
Speaker 1: Because he hit like he'd hit them early on. You

797
00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:48,720
Speaker 1: didn't know him as a player, even his first touchdown

798
00:34:48,719 --> 00:34:51,000
Speaker 1: of booty last year against the Texans, where all of

799
00:34:51,040 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 1: a sudden you're just like, my god, Like he has

800
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: uncanny accuracy down Like this is different. This isn't just

801
00:34:56,760 --> 00:34:58,879
Speaker 1: the guy who oh there's a guy running free down

802
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: and he hit him right, Like. This is a guy

803
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: who's dropping a pin in a bucket from fifty yards

804
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 1: out and putting it right where his guy can get it.

805
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: I mean, Kyle Williams is like, how do you defend that?

806
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,200
Speaker 2: Right? It's just it's it's been one of the coolest

807
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,719
Speaker 2: things and let's not you know, let's skip props to

808
00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 2: Kyle Williams for the catch. It was over the shoulder,

809
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,760
Speaker 2: you know, like didn't let up, you know, kept his pace.

810
00:35:18,800 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 2: You know, so often you see guys like stutter or

811
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:24,360
Speaker 2: stop and you know he screws up the timing, but

812
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 2: he just you know, he was full out catching it

813
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 2: and you know on the move it was just you know,

814
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,880
Speaker 2: and throw great catch.

815
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:34,640
Speaker 1: And I know it hasn't been perfect when we can

816
00:35:34,719 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 1: point out some of the worts in Kyle Williams game still,

817
00:35:37,120 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: but like to have him start to make some plays

818
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:41,040
Speaker 1: here at the end of the season, like this is

819
00:35:41,040 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: what you need with rookies, like you show some patience

820
00:35:43,360 --> 00:35:45,680
Speaker 1: early on. I know early in this season, where's Kyle Williams.

821
00:35:45,719 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: Whre's Kyle Williams very you know, not doing very much,

822
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,360
Speaker 1: but just even these little glimpses here right now, and

823
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,560
Speaker 1: it also to me is just proof positive of it

824
00:35:54,600 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: doesn't really matter Drake's thrown to whether it's Booty getting

825
00:35:57,560 --> 00:35:59,920
Speaker 1: down the field or Kyle Williams or the guy that

826
00:36:00,080 --> 00:36:02,399
Speaker 1: you bring next year or whatever it might be. It's

827
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,440
Speaker 1: Drake may putting the ball right where the receiver can

828
00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,640
Speaker 1: get it. And that to me is just super exciting.

829
00:36:06,640 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 1: And now we have a little something next year. All right,

830
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 1: what's Kyle Williams, like in year two, can we get

831
00:36:10,760 --> 00:36:13,760
Speaker 1: him polished up a little bit and can he become

832
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: even more of a signal contribute.

833
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:18,920
Speaker 3: It's a really encouraging Like the whole rookie class has

834
00:36:18,960 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 3: been pretty good across the board, but like you have

835
00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 3: Henderson with the second half push, you have Kyle Williams

836
00:36:25,080 --> 00:36:27,719
Speaker 3: starting to make plays. You know, Craig Woodson's played like

837
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,880
Speaker 3: every snap on defense. I don't know if he's an

838
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 3: impact safety, but he's a starter and he's a guy

839
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 3: that can play a lot of playing time for you.

840
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 3: You know, it wasn't Jared Wilson's best game. Maybe it

841
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:39,399
Speaker 3: was because he was concussed the entire time. I wish

842
00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 3: I had that context before I wrote about it yesterday.

843
00:36:42,480 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 5: That's funny, that's funny.

844
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:45,279
Speaker 2: It was like he didn't know what.

845
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: Was going on.

846
00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:50,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, probably make an edit, maybe not that one,

847
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:53,719
Speaker 3: but yeah, you know, like you obviously you know when

848
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 3: when Campbell comes back like that, that's like four or

849
00:36:56,239 --> 00:36:58,400
Speaker 3: five guys that they drafted last year. And you know,

850
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 3: if you want to Paul, don't roll your the kicker.

851
00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:05,240
Speaker 4: You know, he's been near perfect.

852
00:37:05,360 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 5: That's what that's what the kickers do. Yeah, I mean

853
00:37:07,480 --> 00:37:08,360
Speaker 5: we're just thought about.

854
00:37:08,880 --> 00:37:14,239
Speaker 3: But Campbell, Henderson, Wilson, Williams, Woodson, the kicker. I mean

855
00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 3: that's four or five contributors at least from one draft class.

856
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:18,000
Speaker 2: YEP.

857
00:37:18,280 --> 00:37:20,799
Speaker 1: I found myself like, this is a question I've think

858
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: I've talked to some of the reporters about. I just like,

859
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,439
Speaker 1: I'm like Woodson, it's great, he's playing. Is he good?

860
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 2: Like?

861
00:37:24,800 --> 00:37:25,239
Speaker 3: Is he like?

862
00:37:25,360 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: Are we like?

863
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:26,200
Speaker 10: Oh?

864
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 1: This is usually a rookie comes in and he starts

865
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 1: every game at safety for you, and you feel like, wow,

866
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,359
Speaker 1: we found a gem and like and I like him.

867
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,000
Speaker 1: But I just am finding myself wondering, you know, is

868
00:37:36,080 --> 00:37:39,360
Speaker 1: this within this scheme? I would think there should be

869
00:37:39,360 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 1: more plays to be made. He hasn't really made a

870
00:37:40,880 --> 00:37:43,719
Speaker 1: lot of plays on the ball. He's made some great tackles,

871
00:37:43,719 --> 00:37:46,120
Speaker 1: he's made some good you know. Do you think they knew.

872
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,600
Speaker 2: That when they got rid of Douglar and Phillips? Yeah?

873
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean well I think I think they knew

874
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:52,919
Speaker 1: they wanted to play too high slight.

875
00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 2: I mean, Pepper, I'm sorry.

876
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:55,600
Speaker 5: I know it.

877
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:58,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I knew you were talking.

878
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,400
Speaker 2: Why am I thinking Phillips, Adrian Phillips maybe, But anyway,

879
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 2: do you think when they got rid of the two

880
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,839
Speaker 2: safeties veterans that they knew we got guys that it's

881
00:38:06,880 --> 00:38:08,319
Speaker 2: not going to be that it's going to be a

882
00:38:08,360 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: softer landing than you think.

883
00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,160
Speaker 3: Well, Woodson was already taking reps with the first team

884
00:38:13,640 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 3: at that point of the summer. Anyways, Like, I think

885
00:38:15,320 --> 00:38:18,279
Speaker 3: they had already made that transition right around Minnesota, right

886
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,840
Speaker 3: around the joint practices with the Vikings. They they I

887
00:38:20,880 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 3: feel like they already decided that.

888
00:38:22,640 --> 00:38:24,920
Speaker 1: They were going to roll the slot a lot, and

889
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:26,040
Speaker 1: I was like, what's going on here?

890
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:32,080
Speaker 4: The concerted effort that they had throughout the offseason to

891
00:38:32,320 --> 00:38:34,040
Speaker 4: move on for as many people as they could.

892
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, but you don't do that if I

893
00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 2: think you're not going to be able to you know,

894
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 2: they make up, you know, make up.

895
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,960
Speaker 4: They were going to replace the guys they wanted. I

896
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 4: don't think that mattered as much to them as moving

897
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:49,440
Speaker 4: on and having their guys, their voices being heard. I

898
00:38:49,480 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 4: think that was really important to Mike, and I think

899
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 4: that's the way it's played out.

900
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 5: I think Dougars played well for Pittsburgh. He's Betty solid.

901
00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,120
Speaker 4: I don't think it really has anything to do with

902
00:38:58,200 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 4: we think Woodson's this or that. I think Woodson's their

903
00:39:00,760 --> 00:39:01,879
Speaker 4: guy and they wanted to move on.

904
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:03,520
Speaker 1: Well, why not get rid of those guys earlier than

905
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:05,879
Speaker 1: Doug because they could have made it into camp because

906
00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: they couldn't. The other guys they could just indiscriminately cut

907
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,640
Speaker 1: with no penalty. They needed to try to do something

908
00:39:11,680 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 1: with Douger's contract and they ultimately were able to deal

909
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:17,799
Speaker 1: with when they did. And I don't think, please don't

910
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,319
Speaker 1: misunderstand this is this was a bad move. I think

911
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,160
Speaker 1: the off season was a home run. They identified the

912
00:39:24,360 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 1: need like and also, don't take it the other way either, like,

913
00:39:28,000 --> 00:39:31,400
Speaker 1: oh Paul's now trashing guys like David Andrews.

914
00:39:31,480 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 5: No, I'm not.

915
00:39:32,640 --> 00:39:36,440
Speaker 4: I think it was important for Mike Vrabel to do

916
00:39:36,560 --> 00:39:39,279
Speaker 4: it to sort of forge his own path. I don't

917
00:39:39,280 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 4: want as many and it's I don't want those guys around.

918
00:39:42,800 --> 00:39:45,960
Speaker 4: I don't want the old regime around. And it wasn't

919
00:39:46,000 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 4: because those guys were bad influences, but there was guys

920
00:39:48,719 --> 00:39:50,640
Speaker 4: that were. You know, Jonathan Jones was a good player

921
00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,160
Speaker 4: for the Patriots. I think he thought it would be

922
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:57,720
Speaker 4: better to move on Dietrich Wise, David Andrews, Jawan Bentley.

923
00:39:57,800 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 4: I think he thought there was value in moving on

924
00:40:00,080 --> 00:40:03,520
Speaker 4: from guys that were here before, because he knows he's

925
00:40:03,560 --> 00:40:05,200
Speaker 4: going to be dealing with a lot of young guys

926
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,560
Speaker 4: that Evan just talked about the draft class that need

927
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 4: my voice, not.

928
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:12,880
Speaker 5: Maybe someone else's voice who might say.

929
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 4: Well, that's weird that Mike's doing it this way. Bill

930
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:18,280
Speaker 4: used to do it this way, you know. And again,

931
00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 4: not because those guys are bad influences. But I think

932
00:40:22,640 --> 00:40:24,880
Speaker 4: that there's a reason why they moved on from as

933
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:27,040
Speaker 4: many veterans as they did, and I think he wanted

934
00:40:27,080 --> 00:40:28,760
Speaker 4: his message to be the only message.

935
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I can see that because we talked about it

936
00:40:31,120 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 1: last year. Of what point does this is how we

937
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:35,920
Speaker 1: did it back when the page when I was with

938
00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,319
Speaker 1: the Patriots, Like well, like that doesn't resonate anymore. And

939
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,239
Speaker 1: I totally get the point of, you know, wanting to

940
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:42,040
Speaker 1: have his voice be the primary voice. I just say,

941
00:40:42,080 --> 00:40:44,560
Speaker 1: with the safety position, it does seem dramatically different to

942
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:46,799
Speaker 1: me from what they used to want to do, which

943
00:40:46,880 --> 00:40:48,600
Speaker 1: was have a high free safety and have a safety

944
00:40:48,600 --> 00:40:50,400
Speaker 1: in the box who basically played linebacker, And now they

945
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:52,919
Speaker 1: want two free safeties who can go down and back

946
00:40:52,920 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: and down and back and do whatever they want. And

947
00:40:55,520 --> 00:40:58,000
Speaker 1: I think that that example in Minnesota to me was

948
00:40:58,600 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: like to your point, Paul, looking for some them for peppers, Like,

949
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 1: you know, is this guy gonna be able to cover

950
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:03,960
Speaker 1: in the slot? You know, it's just like, whoa, this

951
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,480
Speaker 1: is not what this guy does having to chase you know.

952
00:41:06,600 --> 00:41:11,120
Speaker 4: One of the movies, and you know you cannot criticize it.

953
00:41:11,120 --> 00:41:11,600
Speaker 5: It's worked.

954
00:41:11,640 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 4: No, I think that the biggest, one of the biggest

955
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,480
Speaker 4: I'm not talking about the record. That's obvious. And I

956
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,480
Speaker 4: think you can make an arm about the locker room. Yeah, yeah,

957
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:20,680
Speaker 4: talking about the locks.

958
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,799
Speaker 2: You ever seen a team and you know, maybe it's

959
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:27,200
Speaker 2: all fluff, but that more has been made about the

960
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:30,200
Speaker 2: bond that seems to have been you know, built on

961
00:41:30,280 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 2: this team and the family and all this stuff like well,

962
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 2: like we've seen, you know, teams that have had good

963
00:41:35,480 --> 00:41:38,080
Speaker 2: locker rooms before, but this one, Yeah, it's something.

964
00:41:38,120 --> 00:41:40,480
Speaker 4: I think it's a big part of their success. Is

965
00:41:40,520 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 4: it overshadows. I think it makes up for some of

966
00:41:44,680 --> 00:41:47,520
Speaker 4: the things that they may be lacking. So in other words,

967
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,920
Speaker 4: you can make an argument right now that they they

968
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 4: since Milton Williams got hurt. They really struggled stopping the run.

969
00:41:54,480 --> 00:41:56,200
Speaker 4: I know they were leaking a little bit before then,

970
00:41:56,239 --> 00:41:59,760
Speaker 4: but the games, the four games that Milton Williams was out,

971
00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:01,040
Speaker 4: they couldn't stop the run.

972
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 5: Do you think they could use Keon White?

973
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:08,799
Speaker 4: No, I'm not talking about a difference maker. I don't

974
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: think that they could use ke On White because I

975
00:42:10,600 --> 00:42:12,920
Speaker 4: think he was a problem and I don't think that

976
00:42:12,960 --> 00:42:13,640
Speaker 4: they wanted a.

977
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 5: Guy who was going to be wondering about is.

978
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 4: That the right message to be sending, because clearly in

979
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:20,360
Speaker 4: his two years in New England he had no problems

980
00:42:20,760 --> 00:42:24,960
Speaker 4: questioning the message, questioning the coaching. He might be a

981
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,000
Speaker 4: better player than Corey. He is a better player than

982
00:42:28,000 --> 00:42:28,640
Speaker 4: Corey Durden.

983
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:30,799
Speaker 3: He's a different kind of player, but he's not going

984
00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:31,360
Speaker 3: to help me.

985
00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 5: Corey Durden is because Corey Durden is.

986
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 4: On board and he's my guy, and he is playing

987
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:42,960
Speaker 4: for me on Joshua Farmer And you know, Eric Gregory

988
00:42:43,920 --> 00:42:46,040
Speaker 4: White's probably a better player than all of those guys,

989
00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:48,479
Speaker 4: but he's not a better player for the Patriots because

990
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,240
Speaker 4: he's not all on board.

991
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: What he gains from the intangibles of not having him

992
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:55,880
Speaker 2: is more valuable to him than having him.

993
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's definitely being stop the run in.

994
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:02,560
Speaker 4: The point, he's a better player than the guys that

995
00:43:02,640 --> 00:43:04,919
Speaker 4: aren't stopping the run right now, I mean a better

996
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:05,439
Speaker 4: player than.

997
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:08,359
Speaker 3: He's a better player. I mean he has a different

998
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:08,879
Speaker 3: skill set.

999
00:43:08,960 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 4: But yeah, I agree, it's not apples to apples, just

1000
00:43:11,480 --> 00:43:14,319
Speaker 4: like Corey, Kyle Dugger has a different skill set than

1001
00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:14,960
Speaker 4: Craig Woodson.

1002
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:16,240
Speaker 5: It's not apples to apples.

1003
00:43:16,520 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 4: But those guys can still play, but they're just not

1004
00:43:20,320 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 4: great fits.

1005
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that.

1006
00:43:23,120 --> 00:43:24,880
Speaker 3: I think, you know, going you know, there's obviously the

1007
00:43:24,920 --> 00:43:27,480
Speaker 3: contract angle, but like going into training camp, you know,

1008
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 3: Craig Woodson's a rookie, like so, until you start to

1009
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:33,880
Speaker 3: see it in practice and see him practicing in competitive settings.

1010
00:43:34,239 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 3: To pull the plug on Kyle Dugger and say we're

1011
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:39,120
Speaker 3: going to start this fourth round pick without seeing him

1012
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 3: in any competitive practices or seeing him in joint practice

1013
00:43:42,600 --> 00:43:45,879
Speaker 3: or anything, is like that, that's putting yourself at risk.

1014
00:43:45,920 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 3: Once they had saw Craig Woodson play for three four

1015
00:43:48,840 --> 00:43:51,440
Speaker 3: weeks in training camp and saw that he could handle it,

1016
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 3: then you know, now you feel a lot more comfortable

1017
00:43:54,680 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 3: moving on from Peppers and Duggers, So I think that

1018
00:43:57,320 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 3: that contributes it as well.

1019
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,040
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, it's all part of it.

1020
00:44:01,080 --> 00:44:04,239
Speaker 3: To Duce's question about Woodson, like, I don't think he's

1021
00:44:04,280 --> 00:44:07,840
Speaker 3: an impact safety. I don't think he's going to be

1022
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 3: a playmaking safety.

1023
00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:09,400
Speaker 2: Get there.

1024
00:44:09,400 --> 00:44:11,080
Speaker 1: I mean the bigger question is just like is this

1025
00:44:11,120 --> 00:44:13,120
Speaker 1: a guy that is there and we're building around him

1026
00:44:13,120 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: he's a rookie he's played every time, or is he

1027
00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:16,600
Speaker 1: a guy that he's there right now but we're going

1028
00:44:16,680 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 1: to continue to throw players. I mean, Hawkins is a

1029
00:44:19,000 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: free agent, so they already got one decision to make

1030
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 1: it one of the safety spots. But you know, I

1031
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: just it's one of those weird things where rookie comes

1032
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,080
Speaker 1: in plays every snap on defense and you still feel

1033
00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:28,840
Speaker 1: kind of like, no, that's nice, but like is he

1034
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:31,359
Speaker 1: a playmaker? Is he is he at above replacement level

1035
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:33,759
Speaker 1: type player? I'm still I'm still he is.

1036
00:44:33,760 --> 00:44:35,799
Speaker 5: Still just a rookie, so he could, so he could.

1037
00:44:35,880 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 3: That's why it reminds me so much of the Rutgers

1038
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:43,480
Speaker 3: boys like Carmon Logan Ryan that like are those guys sacklers?

1039
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:43,759
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1040
00:44:43,880 --> 00:44:46,959
Speaker 3: Like are they great players? Like are they number one

1041
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:49,920
Speaker 3: corners or number one safety, No, but like they are

1042
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,439
Speaker 3: serviceable NFL starters that can play a role and play

1043
00:44:53,440 --> 00:44:56,040
Speaker 3: a position, and you're not You're not going to be

1044
00:44:56,080 --> 00:44:58,520
Speaker 3: taken on water because they're out there. You know, Harmon

1045
00:44:58,640 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: had all those you know, perceptions on arm punts late

1046
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:04,960
Speaker 3: in games and things like that. No respect to disrespect,

1047
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:07,719
Speaker 3: but you know, at the same like that kind of player.

1048
00:45:07,760 --> 00:45:08,040
Speaker 2: I think.

1049
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:10,880
Speaker 3: I think Woodson's maybe a little bit more physical Thandron

1050
00:45:10,920 --> 00:45:13,560
Speaker 3: Harmon was, But there are similar types of players where

1051
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,760
Speaker 3: I think he's just going to be mentally physically sound,

1052
00:45:16,920 --> 00:45:19,960
Speaker 3: you know, his technique, his assignments, you know, all that

1053
00:45:20,040 --> 00:45:22,440
Speaker 3: kind of stuff, you know, but he's not necessarily going to,

1054
00:45:22,600 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 3: you know, be a big time player, right for you.

1055
00:45:24,800 --> 00:45:29,640
Speaker 2: A couple of emails and calls, We'll get to those

1056
00:45:29,640 --> 00:45:33,319
Speaker 2: in a second. Justin Wrights in. Patriots Nation is the

1057
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:35,319
Speaker 2: greatest fan base in the league, but it can also

1058
00:45:35,360 --> 00:45:37,960
Speaker 2: be the worst. When things were looking rough in the

1059
00:45:38,040 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: Ravens game, across social media, I was seeing comments such

1060
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:43,200
Speaker 2: as were one and done twenty twenty one all over

1061
00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 2: again where frauds I was too. It was ridiculous. Calm down.

1062
00:45:48,680 --> 00:45:50,759
Speaker 2: You got so used to the last few years that

1063
00:45:50,800 --> 00:45:54,480
Speaker 2: you lose confidence the second the team faulters just relax.

1064
00:45:55,120 --> 00:45:58,280
Speaker 2: It's true. I mean, look at NFL all these other games.

1065
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:02,040
Speaker 2: Good teams have to overcome things at times. I mean,

1066
00:46:02,120 --> 00:46:03,040
Speaker 2: that's what happens.

1067
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:05,319
Speaker 1: I brought up to Paul recently. Do you think that

1068
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,440
Speaker 1: there's any impact that social media kind of came about

1069
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,520
Speaker 1: while the Patriots were in their dynasty heyday and so

1070
00:46:13,040 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: kind of like Patriot fans on top of the world

1071
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:19,880
Speaker 1: is like kind of an institution since the start of

1072
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:22,319
Speaker 1: social media, and it just feels like that's where the

1073
00:46:22,360 --> 00:46:24,840
Speaker 1: collective fan base feels like they're rightful place is in

1074
00:46:24,880 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 1: the structure of it all, like oh, we're back, Like

1075
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:29,120
Speaker 1: now we're on social media. Now we can go trash

1076
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:31,160
Speaker 1: talk everybody again. You know, we can do all those things.

1077
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:31,520
Speaker 2: I don't know.

1078
00:46:32,760 --> 00:46:34,759
Speaker 5: Did they stop trash talking? No, I'm probably not.

1079
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,640
Speaker 2: Let's go to the phones. Eight five to five pats

1080
00:46:37,680 --> 00:46:43,760
Speaker 2: five hundred herms in DC, what's up? Herm herm DC

1081
00:46:45,400 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: ploffs Hey, hell yeah, yeah, yeah.

1082
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:55,440
Speaker 11: Don't let some fool in, I mean, get you all up,

1083
00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 11: you know, they just you know, that's that's what they're

1084
00:46:58,120 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 11: trying to do. Rather get you all robbed up and

1085
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:02,799
Speaker 11: get you, you know, trink out your position, but we

1086
00:47:03,000 --> 00:47:04,560
Speaker 11: back and we ain't going anywhere.

1087
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: So just yeah, I mean, I'm off for the criticism.

1088
00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:09,239
Speaker 2: And at one point there was like a legitimate I

1089
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:12,760
Speaker 2: think it was a play call and I let people

1090
00:47:12,800 --> 00:47:15,560
Speaker 2: go and people had both sides, and I brought those

1091
00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 2: comments in, but I'm not gonna post you if you

1092
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:22,200
Speaker 2: just like we're frauds, you know, like go away, go away.

1093
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,120
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, and I hear you. Two quick comments and

1094
00:47:27,160 --> 00:47:30,959
Speaker 11: the question. So first comment, Obviously I was at the game,

1095
00:47:31,080 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 11: and obviously I'm watching Biggs, and I just couldn't help

1096
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,560
Speaker 11: to think about it could have been maybe you know, Brett.

1097
00:47:39,360 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 12: And I or uh, you know, Calvin Ridley.

1098
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:46,239
Speaker 11: And somebody else in that ager, and I just I

1099
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:47,680
Speaker 11: don't know. I was a little sick of my stomach

1100
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 11: thinking about that, because I think BIG's almost like a

1101
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:55,040
Speaker 11: god said bought Drake and specifically right obviously killed the

1102
00:47:55,320 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 11: Ravens in a homecoming game. But besides that, I was

1103
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:02,799
Speaker 11: looking down towards the bench and I think we were

1104
00:48:02,800 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 11: down with eleven and fourth quarter.

1105
00:48:05,120 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 12: All I can see is Diggs signal into his teammates

1106
00:48:09,160 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 12: like listen, chin up, we'll be fine, right, chin up,

1107
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 12: will be fine.

1108
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,439
Speaker 11: And when I saw that, that kind of like helped

1109
00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:17,560
Speaker 11: me relax and I knew that, okay, we at least

1110
00:48:17,560 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 11: gonna come back and go to overtime. But I guess

1111
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:23,920
Speaker 11: what overpoint for that was. I mean, this is religious

1112
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,080
Speaker 11: a godsend for Drake May.

1113
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,799
Speaker 12: Then the game wing drift for Drake May, it was

1114
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,680
Speaker 12: just I mean it was like he was performing surgery, right,

1115
00:48:31,680 --> 00:48:34,359
Speaker 12: it was just being bang boom nine plays.

1116
00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 11: So for a young guy to be.

1117
00:48:36,760 --> 00:48:40,160
Speaker 12: Able to do that and that spot is is I mean,

1118
00:48:40,200 --> 00:48:43,600
Speaker 12: it's not only impressive but obviously super encouraging going to.

1119
00:48:45,120 --> 00:48:45,800
Speaker 7: The playoffs.

1120
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:52,920
Speaker 11: But my question is, so Matthew Stafford right, his numbers.

1121
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:58,160
Speaker 12: Yes, currently he leased the MVP race, but wouldn't his

1122
00:48:58,280 --> 00:49:01,920
Speaker 12: numbers more qualify for him being maybe like off the player.

1123
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:04,200
Speaker 2: Of the year could be both, but yeah, I.

1124
00:49:04,160 --> 00:49:05,040
Speaker 7: Could be biased.

1125
00:49:06,239 --> 00:49:08,720
Speaker 11: Oh, I could be biased, But obviously I think.

1126
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 12: Jake mincheld be leading MVP race for the effect that

1127
00:49:12,680 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 12: I mean, he's done more with less team. That's what

1128
00:49:16,200 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 12: I'm saying is, yeah, they won twelve games for the

1129
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,680
Speaker 12: team that won eight games in two years. So I mean,

1130
00:49:23,920 --> 00:49:26,520
Speaker 12: if he doesn't win it this year, then I don't know,

1131
00:49:26,560 --> 00:49:28,400
Speaker 12: I just be a little dispoint in the voters because

1132
00:49:28,400 --> 00:49:33,760
Speaker 12: I feel they're looking at the wrong thing, especially considering

1133
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:35,719
Speaker 12: Josh Allen won it last year, which I would have

1134
00:49:35,840 --> 00:49:36,799
Speaker 12: ordered him about.

1135
00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:39,440
Speaker 2: Well, Lamar had better numbers, but they figured Josh did

1136
00:49:39,520 --> 00:49:41,640
Speaker 2: more with less and the same reasoning should come into

1137
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:44,880
Speaker 2: play this year. Could Yeah, yeah, all right, thanks her.

1138
00:49:45,320 --> 00:49:47,800
Speaker 3: I think I think the MVP is going to be

1139
00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:51,560
Speaker 3: really interesting because the voting list is interesting.

1140
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 5: But the voting list is.

1141
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:55,480
Speaker 3: A lot of people that are, you know, on my

1142
00:49:55,719 --> 00:49:58,200
Speaker 3: side of the isle in terms of how they approach

1143
00:49:58,280 --> 00:49:59,759
Speaker 3: the job. You know, it's a lot of the men

1144
00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,400
Speaker 3: A times is and those types of people that are

1145
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,000
Speaker 3: you know, into the analytics and into you know, film

1146
00:50:05,040 --> 00:50:08,480
Speaker 3: watching and things like that. And right now, Matthew Stafford

1147
00:50:08,560 --> 00:50:12,400
Speaker 3: has the traditional stats. He has more touchdown passes, he

1148
00:50:12,440 --> 00:50:15,200
Speaker 3: has fewer interceptions, he has more passing yards. Drake has

1149
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: him in completion percentage, but Stafford has a higher passer

1150
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:19,480
Speaker 3: rating than Drake.

1151
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 2: May if you watch the game, May plays if you

1152
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 2: just watch you know the stats, but May no.

1153
00:50:25,640 --> 00:50:27,840
Speaker 5: If you watch the game, Evans.

1154
00:50:28,080 --> 00:50:32,799
Speaker 4: Evan's right, no, but I mean watching the game, it's

1155
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,120
Speaker 4: going to be very similar to me as last year.

1156
00:50:35,600 --> 00:50:37,759
Speaker 4: If you watch the game, Lamar Jackson was the MVP

1157
00:50:37,960 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 4: last year, but you gave Josh Allen more credit because

1158
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:46,000
Speaker 4: he was doing with less. They don't have Pookin Nakula,

1159
00:50:46,200 --> 00:50:49,320
Speaker 4: they don't even have DeVante Adams. They certainly don't have

1160
00:50:49,360 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 4: a two man backfield with with the best running game,

1161
00:50:55,120 --> 00:51:04,080
Speaker 4: and that an incredible offensives them, right, But that's what

1162
00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:07,480
Speaker 4: it's going to come down to. And you know, QBR

1163
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:10,879
Speaker 4: takes what takes into consideration all the running that Drake

1164
00:51:10,920 --> 00:51:11,359
Speaker 4: May has done.

1165
00:51:11,400 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna like, Drake May hasn't beaten

1166
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:19,239
Speaker 3: all the advanced analytics, So I'm interested to see, you know,

1167
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:22,239
Speaker 3: is it going to be the that's gonna be mean?

1168
00:51:22,440 --> 00:51:23,040
Speaker 5: Is it going to be the.

1169
00:51:23,040 --> 00:51:26,880
Speaker 3: People that prioritize things like passing touchdowns and yards and

1170
00:51:26,960 --> 00:51:28,960
Speaker 3: that sort of stuff, or is it going to be

1171
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:32,600
Speaker 3: the QBR, the EPA per drop back and you know

1172
00:51:32,719 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 3: that sort of crowd of it because those things, you know,

1173
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,239
Speaker 3: EPA and QBR take into account that Drake May is

1174
00:51:39,280 --> 00:51:42,200
Speaker 3: going to run for over four hundred yards. Matthew Stafford

1175
00:51:42,239 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 3: doesn't run, you know, so like these are all elements

1176
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:47,120
Speaker 3: of it that I think you know are.

1177
00:51:47,000 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 5: In Drake May's favor.

1178
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,239
Speaker 3: So if you want to make the case for Drake May,

1179
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:52,520
Speaker 3: you have to kind of do it with the analytics.

1180
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,440
Speaker 3: And if you want to make the case for Matthew Stafford,

1181
00:51:54,520 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 3: you say, well, he's you know, got what is it?

1182
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:58,840
Speaker 3: I think it's like thirty five touchdown passes now or

1183
00:51:58,880 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: something like that, and in the forties, you know, or

1184
00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:03,719
Speaker 3: forty Yeah, I think it's forty. I think it's like

1185
00:52:03,800 --> 00:52:05,840
Speaker 3: forty to five. It's touchdown interception.

1186
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,080
Speaker 2: Great if they did it by who is most valuable

1187
00:52:08,160 --> 00:52:08,600
Speaker 2: for the team.

1188
00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:10,440
Speaker 4: And I think you can make an argument either way

1189
00:52:10,520 --> 00:52:12,840
Speaker 4: on that, because there ain't no way that Rams offense

1190
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:14,520
Speaker 4: is looking like that with somebody else plan.

1191
00:52:16,640 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 5: No, h doesn't look like that when Garoppolo plays.

1192
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, forty touchdowns, five interceptions.

1193
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 4: But I think that that a very good argument can

1194
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:28,359
Speaker 4: be made for Drake May. And this Evan just made

1195
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,360
Speaker 4: it a lot with numbers. I would just make it

1196
00:52:30,480 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 4: with just this year talent that that he's dealing with.

1197
00:52:35,360 --> 00:52:36,880
Speaker 4: I don't think it's fair to say that it's a

1198
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 4: team with he wins the previous few years that that

1199
00:52:39,080 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: team's gone, they Mike Rabel and Elliott Wolf deserve all

1200
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,320
Speaker 4: the credit for completely overturning the roster. It's like a

1201
00:52:45,360 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 4: fifty turnover. So I think it's going to be an interesting,

1202
00:52:50,440 --> 00:52:52,279
Speaker 4: interesting race. To me, it's been a two man race

1203
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 4: all along. I you know, I think the world of

1204
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:56,279
Speaker 4: Josh Allen. I don't think that he's in this race.

1205
00:52:56,320 --> 00:52:58,719
Speaker 4: I don't think it's even close. These two guys have

1206
00:52:58,840 --> 00:53:01,520
Speaker 4: separated themselves. I think you could go either way. I

1207
00:53:01,600 --> 00:53:04,000
Speaker 4: don't think it's the wrong choice if they go with Stafford,

1208
00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:07,279
Speaker 4: he's been that good. But I can absolutely make a

1209
00:53:07,360 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 4: case with Drake May.

1210
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:15,520
Speaker 2: Nate and Connecticut. What's up, Nate, I just had a.

1211
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 13: Couple of thumps on these next finals games, we can

1212
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:27,960
Speaker 13: I think we should at least bench some of our starters.

1213
00:53:28,160 --> 00:53:31,560
Speaker 13: I feel like we should uh have them healthy, uh

1214
00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 13: for the playoffs, considering all the injuries that we have,

1215
00:53:35,560 --> 00:53:40,920
Speaker 13: and considering that during the game on Sunday night, I

1216
00:53:41,040 --> 00:53:42,880
Speaker 13: saw Drake may come off the field with a bit

1217
00:53:42,960 --> 00:53:46,640
Speaker 13: of a limp. Thankfully it wasn't anything too serious. But

1218
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:48,800
Speaker 13: I just want to keep in mind that, you know,

1219
00:53:49,280 --> 00:53:51,680
Speaker 13: we don't want any more injuries than we already have

1220
00:53:51,840 --> 00:53:55,560
Speaker 13: because they're piling up a lot, and I really think

1221
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:57,839
Speaker 13: that the full healthy team that we have a good

1222
00:53:57,880 --> 00:53:59,960
Speaker 13: potential to make it really far into the playoff.

1223
00:54:00,120 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, so I hear what you're saying. You know, Patriots

1224
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:06,839
Speaker 2: are you know, playoff guaranteed. They still want to get

1225
00:54:06,880 --> 00:54:10,200
Speaker 2: the AFC East. But what's more important getting that you know,

1226
00:54:10,560 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 2: home playoff game at some point? Or you know the

1227
00:54:13,680 --> 00:54:16,240
Speaker 2: Patriots are road warriors this year? Is that more important

1228
00:54:16,280 --> 00:54:17,240
Speaker 2: than being healthy?

1229
00:54:18,520 --> 00:54:20,879
Speaker 3: I think you could make the case that they could

1230
00:54:20,880 --> 00:54:23,360
Speaker 3: probably beat the Jets and the Dolphins down a few guys,

1231
00:54:23,680 --> 00:54:26,480
Speaker 3: And if you want to take that route, then that

1232
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:30,279
Speaker 3: you could definitely make that case. You know if I

1233
00:54:30,320 --> 00:54:33,040
Speaker 3: think it becomes more interesting if they clinch it this week,

1234
00:54:33,120 --> 00:54:36,360
Speaker 3: if the Eagles beat the Bills, and then Week eighteen

1235
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 3: is pretty much meaningless against Quinn Yewers.

1236
00:54:40,280 --> 00:54:43,480
Speaker 2: And the Dolphins. What what if Broncos lose this week?

1237
00:54:43,760 --> 00:54:45,640
Speaker 3: Well, they're playing the Chiefs and they're not going to lose.

1238
00:54:48,600 --> 00:54:48,799
Speaker 5: Big.

1239
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,319
Speaker 3: But do you and I'm not talking about you can't

1240
00:54:52,360 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 3: bench everybody, right, that's another common mis like you can't

1241
00:54:55,080 --> 00:54:56,120
Speaker 3: some people have to play.

1242
00:54:56,160 --> 00:54:58,160
Speaker 1: You got a bunch of injuries too, Like you have

1243
00:54:58,320 --> 00:54:59,040
Speaker 1: much of a choice.

1244
00:54:59,120 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 3: But like if you take out you know, if you

1245
00:55:02,440 --> 00:55:05,040
Speaker 3: rest splain for the rest of the regular season, if

1246
00:55:05,120 --> 00:55:07,319
Speaker 3: you rest some of the guys that got banged up,

1247
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:10,439
Speaker 3: you know on Sunday night for the rest of the season. Yeah,

1248
00:55:10,600 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 3: can you beat Brady Cooking Quinn yours with like seven

1249
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:16,920
Speaker 3: inactives that are all yes, injured.

1250
00:55:16,640 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 4: All relevant players. Yes, I agreeably. I agree with you

1251
00:55:19,760 --> 00:55:22,879
Speaker 4: one thousand percent. I always answer this question the same way.

1252
00:55:22,920 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 4: It's a case by case basis. You tell me what

1253
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,279
Speaker 4: the player is. I'll tell you if I think that

1254
00:55:26,360 --> 00:55:28,160
Speaker 4: there's a chance that you should, you should do it.

1255
00:55:28,600 --> 00:55:30,960
Speaker 4: You know, will Campbell coming off IR, he can come

1256
00:55:31,040 --> 00:55:31,600
Speaker 4: off IR for.

1257
00:55:31,640 --> 00:55:32,359
Speaker 5: The Miami game.

1258
00:55:33,200 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 4: I probably wouldn't do it. I'd probably wait. I'd play him,

1259
00:55:37,160 --> 00:55:39,360
Speaker 4: you know, just to make sure he's healthy for the playoffs.

1260
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:42,239
Speaker 4: Milton Williams this week if if this is if he

1261
00:55:42,360 --> 00:55:44,680
Speaker 4: at all, and again I'm going I'm operating under the

1262
00:55:44,800 --> 00:55:47,360
Speaker 4: it's a fifth you know, you can play, you know,

1263
00:55:47,520 --> 00:55:50,759
Speaker 4: like Mogan Moses clearly wasn't one hundred percent. I think

1264
00:55:50,840 --> 00:55:53,239
Speaker 4: if they had the druthers, he would have sat the

1265
00:55:53,280 --> 00:55:54,960
Speaker 4: rest of that game, but he had to.

1266
00:55:55,000 --> 00:55:55,480
Speaker 5: Be out there.

1267
00:55:56,280 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 4: I don't want to play Will Campbell and Milton Williams

1268
00:55:59,280 --> 00:56:03,839
Speaker 4: under those circums is Robert Splaine. But if other guy,

1269
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,800
Speaker 4: if a guy is healthy enough to play, then I

1270
00:56:08,040 --> 00:56:09,400
Speaker 4: that I want to play them, you know, like.

1271
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,280
Speaker 2: In this particular case we talked about locker room earlier.

1272
00:56:13,360 --> 00:56:17,359
Speaker 2: In this particular team, if you're Mike Rabel and you're

1273
00:56:17,400 --> 00:56:21,080
Speaker 2: reading the room and Robert Splaine is wants to play,

1274
00:56:21,520 --> 00:56:25,440
Speaker 2: and Milton Williams wants to play, do you have to

1275
00:56:25,560 --> 00:56:28,280
Speaker 2: kind of play him? You know, that's the way everybody

1276
00:56:28,320 --> 00:56:30,879
Speaker 2: wants to contribute. Stefan Diggs is sneaking out the back

1277
00:56:30,880 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 2: of the blue tent because he wants to get that

1278
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:33,879
Speaker 2: in the medical.

1279
00:56:35,360 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 3: The only reason why I might err on the side

1280
00:56:37,400 --> 00:56:40,320
Speaker 3: of playing Campbell's because I don't want Daniel Hunter and

1281
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,600
Speaker 3: Will Anderson coming off the left side and he hasn't

1282
00:56:42,640 --> 00:56:46,120
Speaker 3: taken a rep in five weeks like that, that's I think,

1283
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,880
Speaker 3: you know, there's a rust factor there that there is

1284
00:56:49,080 --> 00:56:51,759
Speaker 3: that I would be concerned about. So if he if

1285
00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,720
Speaker 3: he's one hundred percent healthy to play against the Dolphins

1286
00:56:54,760 --> 00:56:55,640
Speaker 3: in Week eighteen.

1287
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:58,479
Speaker 4: It's a different argument. If he's one hundred percent healthy, Okay,

1288
00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,840
Speaker 4: I want him to play.

1289
00:56:59,680 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 3: If he's as close to one hundred percent healthy as

1290
00:57:01,760 --> 00:57:04,920
Speaker 3: he's going to be. But I'm talking about it. It's iffy,

1291
00:57:05,280 --> 00:57:06,839
Speaker 3: and you want to get him back just to get

1292
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 3: him sup work. I would sit him, yeah, but if

1293
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:12,880
Speaker 3: it's if it's you know, yeah, sure, I would just

1294
00:57:12,960 --> 00:57:15,600
Speaker 3: worry about him going into the playoffs cold. But he

1295
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:17,640
Speaker 3: hasn't taken a live game a month.

1296
00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:18,720
Speaker 5: Definitely a fair play.

1297
00:57:19,160 --> 00:57:24,200
Speaker 2: Riley's in Phoenix, Riley.

1298
00:57:25,560 --> 00:57:26,360
Speaker 8: Are we doing fellows?

1299
00:57:26,600 --> 00:57:26,880
Speaker 2: Okay?

1300
00:57:28,400 --> 00:57:32,720
Speaker 8: Hey, So two quick things here. One, I hope that

1301
00:57:33,400 --> 00:57:36,160
Speaker 8: this win has silenced some of the critics a little bit.

1302
00:57:37,000 --> 00:57:39,120
Speaker 8: May not being able to come back in the fourth

1303
00:57:39,240 --> 00:57:42,800
Speaker 8: quarter against one of the best defenses as of late

1304
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:43,480
Speaker 8: in the season.

1305
00:57:44,800 --> 00:57:47,040
Speaker 2: Not that that was a huge for me, but I know.

1306
00:57:47,120 --> 00:57:49,960
Speaker 8: That it was for a lot of people unsure you know,

1307
00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,520
Speaker 8: he was capable of that, and I think he clearly

1308
00:57:52,600 --> 00:57:55,840
Speaker 8: went out and showed that he is and the kind

1309
00:57:55,840 --> 00:57:59,400
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Speaker 8: p I call. This is just getting absolutely out of hand.

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Speaker 8: The last couple of seasons, the officiating has been absolutely

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Speaker 2: I hear you.

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Speaker 8: It's just it's awful. You want to call the bs

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Speaker 8: P I on booty for barely flapping the guy's hands down,

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Speaker 8: But then you're not going to call the blatantly obvious

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Speaker 8: I mean, come on, what are we doing?

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Speaker 2: Yep?

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Speaker 8: But anyways, I'll take it off the air aby all.

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Speaker 2: It is guys, Thanks Riley. No, I hear what you're saying.

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Speaker 2: That was ridiculous. That was he turned them, he tugged him,

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Speaker 5: How does someone not see that?

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Speaker 7: I know he worked extremely hard.

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Speaker 7: So that's really hard to do, is.

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Speaker 16: To be engaged in meetings when you know you're not

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Speaker 16: what he's done here and and his leadership and his

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Speaker 16: willingness to try to get back.

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Speaker 5: Speaking of what was just how was the team holding

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Speaker 5: up some place.

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Speaker 7: That's part of it.

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Speaker 17: You know.

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Speaker 7: I think that.

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Speaker 16: We'll figure out where things are later in the week,

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01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:19,640
Speaker 16: and everybody's been getting treatment. We got back late, so

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Speaker 16: today will be a good opportunity just to you know,

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Speaker 16: see a little bit of you know activity. I'll walk

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Speaker 16: through albeit, but get guys up moving around. A couple

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Speaker 16: of guys in the protocol, and again that that's I

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Speaker 16: would say that those are the guys that you're most

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Speaker 16: conscious of from just a you know, mental well being

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Speaker 16: and not not getting frustrated by how they feel. Tell

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Speaker 16: everybody to do the same thing. Just be honest with

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Speaker 16: how you're feeling. Talk to the doctors, talk to the trainer.

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Speaker 16: You know, we do evaluation every day, we do a

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Speaker 16: symptoms score. So I think those are the ones that

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Speaker 16: you want to just try to focus on. The guys

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Speaker 16: that have an ankle or whatever it might be that

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Speaker 16: need it, you know, they're going to be okay. Sometimes

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Speaker 16: it any of these things that relates to concussions can

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Speaker 16: react differently and there's no pre described, pre described amount

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Speaker 16: of time that they're going to be out. Uh well,

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Speaker 16: Trayvion's in it, and Booty's in it, and Jared Wilson.

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Speaker 18: Is in protocol does this time of year, Mike with

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Speaker 18: succession spat as the team how badly you guys want

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Speaker 18: to get the lineup, continue to do what they're doing

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01:04:36,640 --> 01:04:39,520
Speaker 18: the Morgan the sideline the other day, wheneverything you could

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Speaker 18: possibly get back in there.

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Speaker 16: I mean, it's it's all of these guys have ever known,

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Speaker 16: you know, since the time that they started playing football,

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Speaker 16: they wanted to be out there, and they go to

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Speaker 16: college and they want to be out there, and then

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Speaker 16: they go to the NFL and they want to be

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Speaker 16: out there. That's you only get one opportunity a week.

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Speaker 16: It means a lot to them. Love for guys to

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01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,880
Speaker 16: find ways in as opposed to looking for ways out.

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01:05:02,200 --> 01:05:04,240
Speaker 16: But then sometimes that's not always the case.

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Speaker 7: They can't go in there.

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Speaker 16: So we appreciate every everyone that you know, makes an

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01:05:09,280 --> 01:05:12,439
Speaker 16: effort to finish the game or get to the game

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01:05:12,520 --> 01:05:15,760
Speaker 16: and whatever that may be, and whatever capacity that they

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01:05:15,800 --> 01:05:16,360
Speaker 16: can help us.

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Speaker 7: So I think that's just what they that's all they know.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 16: You up play I significant VOLUMEO snaps with your base personnel,

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Speaker 16: like the last two weeks, all that's challenge your defense,

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Speaker 16: like how do you seek.

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Speaker 7: Sorry, that friv play base defense.

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Speaker 16: Yeah, I just think that's predicated on some of the

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Speaker 16: things that they're doing offensively and the personnel groupings that

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Speaker 16: they are in. And we'll have to, you know, continue

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01:05:43,840 --> 01:05:46,400
Speaker 16: to do that versus the Jets and stop the run

1457
01:05:46,480 --> 01:05:49,000
Speaker 16: and try to find ways to get off the field

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Speaker 16: on third down.

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Speaker 5: Like they just announced the Pro Bowl rosters. If you

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Speaker 5: guys are twelve and three and only have two Pro Bowlers,

1461
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Speaker 5: just curious or reaction?

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Speaker 3: Does that irk you at all?

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Speaker 7: Or they got that? No, it does not at all?

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Speaker 5: What I guess, what does that say about maybe the season?

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Speaker 7: You guys are happy?

1466
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Speaker 16: Says that we're twelve and three and that we have

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Speaker 16: two guys that the coaches and the fans and the

1468
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Speaker 16: players felt worthy enough to make the first ballot.

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Speaker 7: We've got some alternates.

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Speaker 16: I wouldn't imagine that that would be I'm sure guys

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Speaker 16: are are disappointed. There's five, however, many five palm returners

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Speaker 16: that had two touchdowns. I mean, that's I don't know

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01:06:30,400 --> 01:06:33,560
Speaker 16: how many years that's happened, But that and all right there.

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Speaker 16: But you know, I think Marcus is at a healthy

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Speaker 16: year and I think he's a pro barn. I'm glad

1476
01:06:37,760 --> 01:06:41,280
Speaker 16: he's our returner and glad he's helped us out. But

1477
01:06:41,480 --> 01:06:45,200
Speaker 16: sometimes that just doesn't happen. And we're focused on wins.

1478
01:06:45,600 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 16: We said that last week. The players they make fun

1479
01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,360
Speaker 16: of me, but you know, we're chasing wins and not plays,

1480
01:06:50,400 --> 01:06:54,760
Speaker 16: and if we make enough plays that are winning, that'll

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01:06:54,800 --> 01:06:55,200
Speaker 16: be enough.

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01:06:55,360 --> 01:06:58,280
Speaker 7: That'll that'll be all we need. And so, you know,

1483
01:06:58,680 --> 01:07:01,440
Speaker 7: don't really have much else to add on approval right

1484
01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 7: now that you guys have pinched a playoff, what's your

1485
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:05,919
Speaker 7: message for this week?

1486
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:09,640
Speaker 16: Yeah, there's well, just unfinished business. I can't focus on

1487
01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,600
Speaker 16: the next two weeks. We've got to focus on this

1488
01:07:11,720 --> 01:07:15,640
Speaker 16: week and going on the road to a great environment,

1489
01:07:15,880 --> 01:07:19,200
Speaker 16: going to New York City playing the Jets, and unfinished business.

1490
01:07:19,280 --> 01:07:20,920
Speaker 16: We want to be undefeated on the road. I think

1491
01:07:20,960 --> 01:07:25,880
Speaker 16: that that's that's something that's unique. I'm sure you guys

1492
01:07:25,880 --> 01:07:27,840
Speaker 16: will tell me how many times it's happened before, but

1493
01:07:28,800 --> 01:07:33,880
Speaker 16: there you go. So that's something that I think is special.

1494
01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,320
Speaker 16: Still still want to play for the division. We want

1495
01:07:36,360 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 16: to win the division. I haven't done in a long time.

1496
01:07:39,600 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 16: And whoever we put out there and whoever we you know,

1497
01:07:42,280 --> 01:07:43,760
Speaker 16: play with, is going to have to have that in

1498
01:07:43,840 --> 01:07:47,240
Speaker 16: mind and then be prepared to do that, you know,

1499
01:07:47,320 --> 01:07:51,680
Speaker 16: against the team that's you know, playing playing some young guys.

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01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:55,200
Speaker 16: They've got some good veterans. They're playing well on third down. Defensively,

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01:07:56,520 --> 01:07:58,680
Speaker 16: I think they have a really really good offensive line.

1502
01:07:58,720 --> 01:08:01,200
Speaker 16: I think they they move people. I like the way

1503
01:08:01,240 --> 01:08:05,240
Speaker 16: they play. I like their play demeanor. Two really good, young,

1504
01:08:05,360 --> 01:08:10,560
Speaker 16: talented tackles. You know, guards try to finish you. And

1505
01:08:10,840 --> 01:08:13,840
Speaker 16: so again they got speed Breis Hall. You know, it

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01:08:13,880 --> 01:08:18,840
Speaker 16: can make you miss. Mitchell's getting more comfortable in the

1507
01:08:18,920 --> 01:08:21,559
Speaker 16: offense and all that. So you know, we just there's

1508
01:08:21,600 --> 01:08:24,240
Speaker 16: some unfinished business and we're not The season isn't over.

1509
01:08:24,400 --> 01:08:27,320
Speaker 16: This wasn't our goal, and I'm excited that we won.

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01:08:27,439 --> 01:08:29,080
Speaker 16: But we've we've moved on.

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Speaker 2: What's allowed?

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01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,040
Speaker 7: What have you observed? It allowed?

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Speaker 5: Alum flourish a receivers dirty against Mocker, that's the last.

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Speaker 7: Es and he works hard. I think he's got a

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01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:46,280
Speaker 7: good catch radius. I think I think he's improved. I

1516
01:08:46,360 --> 01:08:47,800
Speaker 7: think that to his credit.

1517
01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,920
Speaker 16: I think Todd has done a nice job with his

1518
01:08:50,080 --> 01:08:52,640
Speaker 16: skill set and you know, trying to play big and

1519
01:08:52,680 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 16: play through contact.

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Speaker 7: And I think he's fearless.

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Speaker 16: I think some of his best catches are you know

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01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:00,519
Speaker 16: some of those in cuts where I mean he's extending

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01:09:00,600 --> 01:09:03,599
Speaker 16: his body and he's he's trusting you know that Drake's

1524
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 16: looked out in front of him and puts it up

1525
01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 16: there where nobody else can get it. And yeah, that

1526
01:09:10,160 --> 01:09:12,439
Speaker 16: can't be an easy, you know task to go in

1527
01:09:12,560 --> 01:09:15,400
Speaker 16: there and you know, go up nine or ten feet

1528
01:09:15,439 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 16: and catch an in cut and hope that you're not

1529
01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:19,720
Speaker 16: going to get nailed on the other side of it.

1530
01:09:20,000 --> 01:09:23,559
Speaker 5: Mike from completely disinterested up to highly interested.

1531
01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:27,599
Speaker 4: What's your level when it comes to watching the results

1532
01:09:27,640 --> 01:09:30,040
Speaker 4: around the league and that you're in the playoffs round

1533
01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:31,280
Speaker 4: and figure out where you're seating.

1534
01:09:31,360 --> 01:09:35,520
Speaker 16: Whatever else would be I would say somewhat slightly disinterested,

1535
01:09:38,120 --> 01:09:41,840
Speaker 16: I would have thought a route. I just think Ben

1536
01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 16: applies everything that we want in building this program, and

1537
01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:50,480
Speaker 16: you know, cares deeply about the team, plays multiple positions,

1538
01:09:51,680 --> 01:09:55,400
Speaker 16: is a great teammate, plays with effort and finish, and

1539
01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:58,760
Speaker 16: you know, tries to work and can prove and you

1540
01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:00,640
Speaker 16: know it's find a role for him self here and

1541
01:10:01,040 --> 01:10:02,559
Speaker 16: well excited to have him.

1542
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:08,439
Speaker 2: It might reasons Elijah Pond who developed invalidated your faith

1543
01:10:08,560 --> 01:10:09,920
Speaker 2: from under roster out.

1544
01:10:09,840 --> 01:10:11,599
Speaker 7: Of camp mm hmmm.

1545
01:10:12,360 --> 01:10:16,200
Speaker 16: Just comfort, you know, it's it's got all the talent

1546
01:10:16,240 --> 01:10:20,519
Speaker 16: in the world, and just understanding this league, understanding the

1547
01:10:21,920 --> 01:10:25,320
Speaker 16: the urgency of it and how quickly things happen, and

1548
01:10:25,600 --> 01:10:29,680
Speaker 16: special teams and transition into third down and helping us

1549
01:10:29,800 --> 01:10:32,200
Speaker 16: or being a role player off first and second down, and.

1550
01:10:33,680 --> 01:10:35,720
Speaker 7: You know, trying for me not to take those things

1551
01:10:35,760 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 7: for granted.

1552
01:10:36,320 --> 01:10:38,679
Speaker 16: That a young player that played at a smaller school

1553
01:10:38,720 --> 01:10:40,000
Speaker 16: in California could come.

1554
01:10:39,920 --> 01:10:42,519
Speaker 7: Across the country. And so I think that that's just

1555
01:10:43,160 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 7: credit to him.

1556
01:10:43,840 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 16: And credit to Jeremy and and Smitty, you know, for

1557
01:10:48,080 --> 01:10:52,439
Speaker 16: continuing to help him improve and then ultimately himself, you know,

1558
01:10:52,520 --> 01:10:55,720
Speaker 16: going out there and getting cover comfortable, dropped him in

1559
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:59,800
Speaker 16: some coverage. Sometimes we've rushed him. He plays on special teams.

1560
01:11:00,000 --> 01:11:01,559
Speaker 16: There's a lot of things that he's done for us.

1561
01:11:04,360 --> 01:11:07,160
Speaker 2: Mike, I'm curious the gig punt return.

1562
01:11:07,439 --> 01:11:09,960
Speaker 5: When you watch that battle, can you just explain a

1563
01:11:10,000 --> 01:11:10,360
Speaker 5: little bit.

1564
01:11:10,320 --> 01:11:13,519
Speaker 16: About it, not the fake punt return. I wish we

1565
01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:17,799
Speaker 16: were returning it there, you know, something that we had practiced,

1566
01:11:17,800 --> 01:11:19,840
Speaker 16: something that I felt confident in. It wouldn't have called

1567
01:11:19,880 --> 01:11:23,200
Speaker 16: it if if we didn't feel confident in it. Unfortunately

1568
01:11:23,240 --> 01:11:25,720
Speaker 16: it didn't work. So it was a bad call by me,

1569
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:29,960
Speaker 16: and uh, you know, just told Tay to to throw it,

1570
01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:31,360
Speaker 16: you know what I mean, give it a chance, Give

1571
01:11:31,479 --> 01:11:33,519
Speaker 16: give jack a chance. If the guy dropped out of there,

1572
01:11:33,560 --> 01:11:35,840
Speaker 16: he dropped out of there, but try to give it

1573
01:11:35,880 --> 01:11:39,720
Speaker 16: a chance. It certainly wasn't designed to you know, to run,

1574
01:11:39,840 --> 01:11:42,360
Speaker 16: and he just felt like it wasn't there and he

1575
01:11:42,600 --> 01:11:45,479
Speaker 16: made a decision. So I made a decision to try

1576
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:49,439
Speaker 16: to play. I'll make other calls and be good ones

1577
01:11:49,479 --> 01:11:52,000
Speaker 16: and they'll be you know, bad ones as well. So

1578
01:11:53,520 --> 01:11:55,719
Speaker 16: just felt like we needed something there and it didn't

1579
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:59,439
Speaker 16: go our way. Credit to the guys kept playing and

1580
01:12:00,040 --> 01:12:01,000
Speaker 16: found a way to win the game.

1581
01:12:01,080 --> 01:12:03,240
Speaker 5: So, uh, when you.

1582
01:12:03,360 --> 01:12:06,960
Speaker 17: Preferring like a week for the appointment starting quarterback and

1583
01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 17: then during the game like the backup has to take

1584
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,439
Speaker 17: them over, right, how did you quickly how do you

1585
01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:14,400
Speaker 17: quickly like recolguate your defense.

1586
01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,080
Speaker 16: Well, most of the time it's the same scheme and

1587
01:12:17,160 --> 01:12:23,000
Speaker 16: they're replacing you know, Lamar Jackson with Huntley. You know,

1588
01:12:23,160 --> 01:12:25,960
Speaker 16: so really some of those things did it really changed,

1589
01:12:26,000 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 16: didn't didn't have to change. They were kind of staying

1590
01:12:29,840 --> 01:12:33,080
Speaker 16: and doing things that they had normally done. So if

1591
01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 16: it was a drastic change, there would be things that

1592
01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:37,600
Speaker 16: we would have to do on the fly. But you know,

1593
01:12:37,680 --> 01:12:39,800
Speaker 16: most of our attention on the fly was about getting

1594
01:12:39,840 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 16: other guys in other positions and getting Anthony Jennings there,

1595
01:12:43,000 --> 01:12:45,800
Speaker 16: getting you know, you know, Kyle Williams and Mac to

1596
01:12:45,840 --> 01:12:47,080
Speaker 16: play three different positions.

1597
01:12:47,160 --> 01:12:48,320
Speaker 7: I appreciate them.

1598
01:12:48,360 --> 01:12:50,599
Speaker 16: I'm going to tell them that here in a few

1599
01:12:50,640 --> 01:12:53,160
Speaker 16: minutes of the team meeting, and that's that's not easy

1600
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,200
Speaker 16: to do. I mean, when you have three receiver that

1601
01:12:55,240 --> 01:12:58,439
Speaker 16: plays three different positions and you hear the formations and

1602
01:12:58,479 --> 01:13:01,760
Speaker 16: you hear the personnel groups, uh that that's a tall order.

1603
01:13:01,960 --> 01:13:04,280
Speaker 16: And so credit to Kyle for being a young player.

1604
01:13:04,400 --> 01:13:09,240
Speaker 16: Credit Mac uh for doing that throughout the game. You know,

1605
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:13,120
Speaker 16: when guys went down, no different than they are going

1606
01:13:13,160 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 16: in there, no different than Anthony, and I appreciate that.

1607
01:13:16,080 --> 01:13:18,760
Speaker 16: And Ben Brown goes in at the jumbo tight end

1608
01:13:18,800 --> 01:13:22,240
Speaker 16: when Thayer goes to tackle, and things happened so quickly

1609
01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:26,040
Speaker 16: that Kyle didn't even realize that Thayer was no longer

1610
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,839
Speaker 16: the tight end. He thought he had become the tackle.

1611
01:13:29,280 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 16: So Kyle backs up off the ball and he's like,

1612
01:13:32,280 --> 01:13:34,360
Speaker 16: when did this happen. We're like the last play and

1613
01:13:34,439 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 16: it's like, this is not your fault, Kyle, this is

1614
01:13:36,520 --> 01:13:39,519
Speaker 16: my faull for somehow understanding that Ben Now went in

1615
01:13:39,600 --> 01:13:42,400
Speaker 16: and reported and Thayer was not reporting that he was

1616
01:13:42,439 --> 01:13:42,880
Speaker 16: the tackle.

1617
01:13:43,000 --> 01:13:45,800
Speaker 7: So that's how quickly the things happen.

1618
01:13:46,240 --> 01:13:49,040
Speaker 16: And uh, you know, give give all the credit to

1619
01:13:49,080 --> 01:13:51,439
Speaker 16: the players and the assistant coaches for for having them

1620
01:13:51,479 --> 01:13:53,280
Speaker 16: ready and being able to help us win.

1621
01:13:53,880 --> 01:14:01,000
Speaker 5: Thanks guys, thankfully, and now great moments in history.

1622
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:04,200
Speaker 19: Andrew used to go to the same gym as Andy

1623
01:14:04,240 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 19: Hart right on run over here, so we'd see him

1624
01:14:07,240 --> 01:14:10,000
Speaker 19: every morning before work. So he said, one day at

1625
01:14:10,040 --> 01:14:12,320
Speaker 19: the gym, there's this guy and there was a boxing

1626
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:15,280
Speaker 19: one of those big boxing bags and the guy was

1627
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:18,120
Speaker 19: like hitting it really hard and grutting and whatever and

1628
01:14:18,360 --> 01:14:20,839
Speaker 19: like making a big scene. And he was like six

1629
01:14:20,880 --> 01:14:22,880
Speaker 19: point thirty in the morning, like what is this guy doing?

1630
01:14:23,240 --> 01:14:24,840
Speaker 19: So he was about to go to Andy and be

1631
01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:28,400
Speaker 19: like check out this guy. And then all of a sudden, Andy,

1632
01:14:28,680 --> 01:14:30,720
Speaker 19: as soon as the guy was done, Andy went over

1633
01:14:31,400 --> 01:14:34,639
Speaker 19: and he started doing the same bag to the bag

1634
01:14:34,840 --> 01:14:38,000
Speaker 19: and Andrew. Andrew was like, he was like, I was

1635
01:14:38,080 --> 01:14:40,360
Speaker 19: literally like seconds away from being a Hey, check.

1636
01:14:40,240 --> 01:14:40,800
Speaker 1: Out this guy.

1637
01:14:40,960 --> 01:14:43,200
Speaker 2: So that's part of Andy's routine that he never really

1638
01:14:43,280 --> 01:14:45,240
Speaker 2: told us about the heavy bag. We didn't know that

1639
01:14:45,400 --> 01:14:47,639
Speaker 2: that was something he uses, the heavy bag.

1640
01:14:47,720 --> 01:14:49,360
Speaker 1: And Andrew was about to make fun of the other guy.

1641
01:14:49,479 --> 01:14:51,360
Speaker 2: So he must have to stand really close with those

1642
01:14:51,400 --> 01:14:57,439
Speaker 2: short eyes. Yeah, that's another great moment from all right

1643
01:14:57,520 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 2: back here and Patriots unfiltered. Paula's left us. He's cheating

1644
01:15:02,080 --> 01:15:05,559
Speaker 2: on us. He's going over to one of his shows

1645
01:15:05,760 --> 01:15:08,559
Speaker 2: to uh to you know, do three hours over there.

1646
01:15:08,600 --> 01:15:10,320
Speaker 1: It's on the flag of his shows.

1647
01:15:10,439 --> 01:15:11,920
Speaker 2: This is the he's doing the whole thing.

1648
01:15:12,560 --> 01:15:17,160
Speaker 1: I think, Wow, final bosses of his shows.

1649
01:15:17,520 --> 01:15:20,320
Speaker 2: That is something. Well he's gone, but we're still here.

1650
01:15:21,040 --> 01:15:23,559
Speaker 2: Uh and spiing Fresno's here eight five to five past

1651
01:15:23,600 --> 01:15:26,360
Speaker 2: five hundred, he said. Paul got real riled up late

1652
01:15:26,439 --> 01:15:29,679
Speaker 2: in the postgame show. I share Paul's disagreement with those

1653
01:15:29,720 --> 01:15:32,040
Speaker 2: who think it's all gravy from here no matter how

1654
01:15:32,120 --> 01:15:35,639
Speaker 2: the season plays out. That's total meou thinking and takes

1655
01:15:35,680 --> 01:15:38,320
Speaker 2: the opportunity at hand. For granted, if your team makes

1656
01:15:38,360 --> 01:15:40,920
Speaker 2: the playoffs, you should expect them to play like a

1657
01:15:40,960 --> 01:15:44,640
Speaker 2: playoff team. But we shouldn't reset expectations and move goldposts

1658
01:15:44,680 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 2: to a degree that overshadows reality. There is no way

1659
01:15:48,600 --> 01:15:51,360
Speaker 2: any reasonable person will be looking back on this Patriots

1660
01:15:51,400 --> 01:15:55,160
Speaker 2: season is unsuccessful. It may have a disappointing ending, but

1661
01:15:55,520 --> 01:15:59,760
Speaker 2: enough foundational expectations have already been met or exceeded for

1662
01:15:59,840 --> 01:16:03,240
Speaker 2: the season to register as a success. The gravy train

1663
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,680
Speaker 2: riders are taking this playoff opportunity for granted, but the

1664
01:16:06,800 --> 01:16:10,960
Speaker 2: goldpost movers are taking for granted what's already happened to

1665
01:16:11,080 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 2: make the opportunity possible.

1666
01:16:13,479 --> 01:16:14,760
Speaker 3: It was waxing poetic there.

1667
01:16:14,840 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was very good speed.

1668
01:16:16,400 --> 01:16:19,639
Speaker 3: I think the only thing that could change my mind

1669
01:16:19,680 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 3: as if Buffalo twenty twenty one happens again and they

1670
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:26,920
Speaker 3: get destroyed in the first you know, their first playoff game.

1671
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:31,160
Speaker 3: But besides that, you know that that did the way

1672
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,559
Speaker 3: that season ended. You know they're going down the stretch,

1673
01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:35,200
Speaker 3: you know, one and three I think it was, which

1674
01:16:35,240 --> 01:16:39,360
Speaker 3: is and then getting beat by like forty by Buffalo.

1675
01:16:39,479 --> 01:16:41,360
Speaker 3: That did change your perception of that team. And that

1676
01:16:41,479 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 3: should have been the same argument, right like you drafted

1677
01:16:44,479 --> 01:16:46,960
Speaker 3: a quarterback in the first round, you made the playoffs,

1678
01:16:47,000 --> 01:16:48,880
Speaker 3: you won ten games. It's the same sort of thing.

1679
01:16:49,680 --> 01:16:53,720
Speaker 3: But you knew that that team was potentially that might

1680
01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:56,160
Speaker 3: have been the team was really the you know, the

1681
01:16:56,200 --> 01:16:58,080
Speaker 3: team that played in Buffalo that night and not what

1682
01:16:58,240 --> 01:17:01,000
Speaker 3: we saw cleaning up against a Titans team that had

1683
01:17:01,040 --> 01:17:03,360
Speaker 3: thirty guys out with COVID and you know, stuff like that.

1684
01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: Kind of why this Ravens game meant so much to

1685
01:17:05,240 --> 01:17:07,559
Speaker 1: me because if that was, you know, losing to Buffalo

1686
01:17:07,680 --> 01:17:09,920
Speaker 1: and then it seemed like, all right, well, if you'd

1687
01:17:09,920 --> 01:17:12,120
Speaker 1: beat Miami and the Jets always really gonna care, but

1688
01:17:12,280 --> 01:17:14,519
Speaker 1: like to win in that fashion. And now I think

1689
01:17:14,560 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: Evan's totally right, you don't want to go out like that.

1690
01:17:16,160 --> 01:17:17,720
Speaker 1: They have big difference too, is though Drake Mays and

1691
01:17:17,760 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: the MVP conversation too. So I think even at the

1692
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,879
Speaker 1: height of the twenty one season, which was you know, comparison,

1693
01:17:22,920 --> 01:17:24,599
Speaker 1: I was going to make to the locker rooms because

1694
01:17:24,840 --> 01:17:26,920
Speaker 1: this is a great locker room. But even the twenty

1695
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:29,560
Speaker 1: nineteen team with Brady here, like everybody seemed miserable and

1696
01:17:29,720 --> 01:17:32,920
Speaker 1: stressed and it was like tension. This seems loose. But

1697
01:17:33,120 --> 01:17:35,040
Speaker 1: when the twenty one team was on their win streak,

1698
01:17:35,080 --> 01:17:36,439
Speaker 1: I think it was it was pretty good too. It's

1699
01:17:36,479 --> 01:17:39,120
Speaker 1: just it's hard to take out. Why is everybody happy

1700
01:17:39,160 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: because they're winning or because they all really like each

1701
01:17:41,200 --> 01:17:42,800
Speaker 1: other and it's hard to really you know.

1702
01:17:43,280 --> 01:17:47,000
Speaker 2: No, Yep, Travis and West Virginia, says Fred. I think

1703
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:50,120
Speaker 2: you should cancel tomorrow's show and give everyone the afternoon off.

1704
01:17:50,200 --> 01:17:53,960
Speaker 2: Everyone could submit their picks electronically. Well, we do, Christmas Eve,

1705
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:54,479
Speaker 2: we do?

1706
01:17:54,680 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 3: We got What about New Year's Day asking for a friend?

1707
01:17:57,680 --> 01:18:01,519
Speaker 2: Oh, we'll see, we'll see. Also, let Evan know that

1708
01:18:01,680 --> 01:18:05,080
Speaker 2: Baltimore is not diggs hometown. The part of Maryland he's

1709
01:18:05,120 --> 01:18:07,920
Speaker 2: from is associated more with Washington, d c In not

1710
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:08,959
Speaker 2: so much Baltimore.

1711
01:18:09,000 --> 01:18:10,840
Speaker 3: Okay, well, he told us after the game that he

1712
01:18:11,040 --> 01:18:12,479
Speaker 3: this is a homecoming for him.

1713
01:18:12,439 --> 01:18:15,160
Speaker 2: So I'm gonna go by what he said.

1714
01:18:15,240 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the man himself. Okay, Yeah, he's from like

1715
01:18:18,439 --> 01:18:21,880
Speaker 3: some small town outside of in Maryland somewhere. He went

1716
01:18:21,920 --> 01:18:23,240
Speaker 3: to the University of Maryland.

1717
01:18:23,560 --> 01:18:26,560
Speaker 2: So uh, let's go back to the phones. Manny's in

1718
01:18:26,600 --> 01:18:29,800
Speaker 2: New Bedford. Hey, Manny, what's going on?

1719
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:30,280
Speaker 8: Guys?

1720
01:18:30,479 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 20: Two things one not I still I still don't understand

1721
01:18:33,760 --> 01:18:37,320
Speaker 20: how Marcus Jones didn't make the Pro Bowl. But again

1722
01:18:37,439 --> 01:18:38,840
Speaker 20: that that's that's another story.

1723
01:18:39,320 --> 01:18:40,240
Speaker 7: But I wanted to.

1724
01:18:40,439 --> 01:18:42,920
Speaker 20: This question is mainly for Evan because I know he

1725
01:18:43,040 --> 01:18:46,400
Speaker 20: really just breaks down the game that like and we

1726
01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:47,519
Speaker 20: elite level.

1727
01:18:48,040 --> 01:18:48,240
Speaker 3: Thanks.

1728
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:52,760
Speaker 20: I'm starting to really get concern about this Gonzo situation.

1729
01:18:53,000 --> 01:18:55,160
Speaker 20: I feel like you're playing him a lot in the

1730
01:18:55,280 --> 01:18:59,360
Speaker 20: zone coverage and he's playing like off off man. I'm

1731
01:18:59,479 --> 01:19:02,160
Speaker 20: just curious, like, why is that. You know, he's been

1732
01:19:02,200 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 20: struggling there every play he looks like he's getting burnt.

1733
01:19:06,080 --> 01:19:09,160
Speaker 20: They Fly was completely cooked him like majority of the game,

1734
01:19:09,560 --> 01:19:11,040
Speaker 20: and this is like I would say, he's like a

1735
01:19:11,120 --> 01:19:14,080
Speaker 20: second third game. Do you feel like he's getting frustrated

1736
01:19:14,120 --> 01:19:16,960
Speaker 20: the way they're playing him? Do you think that that's

1737
01:19:17,000 --> 01:19:19,840
Speaker 20: gonna be a conversation when they go extend him, maybe

1738
01:19:19,880 --> 01:19:23,519
Speaker 20: he goes elsewhere to a better system where they play

1739
01:19:23,560 --> 01:19:26,240
Speaker 20: him in man, more curious to what you think about

1740
01:19:26,320 --> 01:19:28,400
Speaker 20: that event. I'll take the stop of their Thanks guys.

1741
01:19:28,600 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, it's it's something that I've written about a

1742
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:34,360
Speaker 3: couple of times now to a couple of weeks in

1743
01:19:34,400 --> 01:19:37,880
Speaker 3: a row. It's just you know what it looks like.

1744
01:19:38,000 --> 01:19:39,360
Speaker 3: And I know he's just named to the Pro Bowl

1745
01:19:39,360 --> 01:19:41,519
Speaker 3: today and we're talking about how he's not, you know,

1746
01:19:41,640 --> 01:19:43,960
Speaker 3: playing as well, but you know what it looks like

1747
01:19:44,040 --> 01:19:45,960
Speaker 3: when he's playing well, because last year he was just

1748
01:19:46,080 --> 01:19:48,800
Speaker 3: excellent for the entire years, you know, all pro player.

1749
01:19:49,280 --> 01:19:51,600
Speaker 3: I don't know if it's scheme related. I don't know

1750
01:19:52,000 --> 01:19:56,120
Speaker 3: if it's the hamstring. You know, I've made this comparison before,

1751
01:19:56,240 --> 01:19:58,920
Speaker 3: but you know, as a hockey guy, like reminds me

1752
01:19:59,000 --> 01:20:01,920
Speaker 3: so much of Jeremy's wa last year, who sat out

1753
01:20:01,960 --> 01:20:04,040
Speaker 3: all of training camp and then came back for the

1754
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,560
Speaker 3: season and he just couldn't get the train rolling. You know,

1755
01:20:07,720 --> 01:20:11,080
Speaker 3: he just was not had a horrible year, and you know,

1756
01:20:11,160 --> 01:20:14,439
Speaker 3: I think that that's could be possible as well. Like

1757
01:20:14,520 --> 01:20:17,280
Speaker 3: he did no training camp, went right into it, you know,

1758
01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:20,160
Speaker 3: sat at the beginning of the season and it just

1759
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:23,760
Speaker 3: was one of those years where it just wasn't you know,

1760
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:27,720
Speaker 3: able to get up to standard completely in this game.

1761
01:20:27,800 --> 01:20:30,320
Speaker 3: And look, I I'm not one of those people that

1762
01:20:30,400 --> 01:20:32,960
Speaker 3: thinks the corners need to be linebackers, but in this

1763
01:20:33,160 --> 01:20:36,680
Speaker 3: game that the Ravens ran at him all night and

1764
01:20:36,920 --> 01:20:40,120
Speaker 3: they made him tackle, they made him take on blocks,

1765
01:20:40,800 --> 01:20:44,400
Speaker 3: and he didn't do it very well. Just being honest, Like,

1766
01:20:44,880 --> 01:20:48,400
Speaker 3: you know, the Derrick Henry explosive runs were mostly off

1767
01:20:48,520 --> 01:20:52,160
Speaker 3: tackle to Gonzo's side, you know, the first touchdown, he's

1768
01:20:52,200 --> 01:20:54,080
Speaker 3: the last line of defense. He's the only guy that

1769
01:20:54,160 --> 01:20:57,040
Speaker 3: can make a play get steamrolled by the guard and

1770
01:20:57,240 --> 01:20:59,839
Speaker 3: doesn't make a play. You know, again, I'm not expecting

1771
01:20:59,880 --> 01:21:03,120
Speaker 3: him to be you know, Dante high tower in the

1772
01:21:03,200 --> 01:21:05,840
Speaker 3: hole and take on a guard. But at that point,

1773
01:21:05,920 --> 01:21:07,320
Speaker 3: you you got to hold him up. You got to

1774
01:21:07,400 --> 01:21:09,640
Speaker 3: do something to try to get you know, hats to

1775
01:21:09,720 --> 01:21:10,240
Speaker 3: the football.

1776
01:21:10,800 --> 01:21:10,920
Speaker 8: Uh.

1777
01:21:11,320 --> 01:21:13,760
Speaker 3: It might just be a scheme thing, like maybe they're

1778
01:21:13,880 --> 01:21:15,920
Speaker 3: just the way that they use corners in this system,

1779
01:21:16,080 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 3: is is not a great fit for him. I don't know,

1780
01:21:19,040 --> 01:21:21,400
Speaker 3: but it's hard for me to imagine that a player

1781
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,360
Speaker 3: of his caliber that you can't find a way to

1782
01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:26,479
Speaker 3: make him play well. Like that That tells usually that's

1783
01:21:26,560 --> 01:21:29,160
Speaker 3: like players over scheme and like you've you have a

1784
01:21:29,200 --> 01:21:32,280
Speaker 3: guy that's that good, like figure it out right, you know,

1785
01:21:32,479 --> 01:21:33,080
Speaker 3: maybe you need to.

1786
01:21:33,120 --> 01:21:34,920
Speaker 2: Beat down by eleven in the fourth and then he

1787
01:21:35,000 --> 01:21:38,160
Speaker 2: switches it on. But he certainly he turned it on

1788
01:21:38,520 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 2: last game. Let's see if we can continue that.

1789
01:21:40,520 --> 01:21:44,760
Speaker 3: I just think, like I get what he's saying, and

1790
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:47,400
Speaker 3: you know, the eighteen yard or like it was a

1791
01:21:47,439 --> 01:21:49,160
Speaker 3: broken play and it was a scrambled drill.

1792
01:21:50,160 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like that one.

1793
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,160
Speaker 3: I don't really h you know, hold against him too

1794
01:21:54,240 --> 01:21:56,639
Speaker 3: much because you're covering for five six seconds, Like you're

1795
01:21:56,640 --> 01:21:58,560
Speaker 3: not going to be able to do that. But the

1796
01:21:58,680 --> 01:22:01,439
Speaker 3: third down one in the slot, like he just sits

1797
01:22:01,479 --> 01:22:04,360
Speaker 3: inside of him and Flowers just cuts out and it's

1798
01:22:04,400 --> 01:22:06,760
Speaker 3: the first down. And you know those are players that

1799
01:22:06,800 --> 01:22:09,200
Speaker 3: you're used to, Gonzo being a lot more competitive in.

1800
01:22:10,160 --> 01:22:12,400
Speaker 2: George writes in, I don't know if you guys pay

1801
01:22:12,439 --> 01:22:16,519
Speaker 2: attention to bleacher Report, grid Iron. I'm sure Evan does

1802
01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,400
Speaker 2: they have a reel of a Patriots fan waving goodbye

1803
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:23,320
Speaker 2: from the game. Well, I'm that Patriots fan. So now

1804
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:25,160
Speaker 2: you can put a face to the name of this

1805
01:22:25,320 --> 01:22:28,040
Speaker 2: diehard Pats fan. When I email in, I love the show,

1806
01:22:28,360 --> 01:22:30,360
Speaker 2: been around since your paper copy, you.

1807
01:22:30,360 --> 01:22:31,559
Speaker 1: Sent a picture of his face.

1808
01:22:31,960 --> 01:22:35,560
Speaker 2: No, you have to go to bleacher Report, grid I

1809
01:22:35,640 --> 01:22:43,599
Speaker 2: guess to see the Patriots fan waving goodbye. Let's see

1810
01:22:43,760 --> 01:22:48,200
Speaker 2: more more sympathy for Marcus Jones getting snubbed.

1811
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:50,560
Speaker 3: We explained that, Yeah, we kind of explained it.

1812
01:22:50,680 --> 01:22:57,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, Okay, Anthony cannot believe this was our first comeback

1813
01:22:57,520 --> 01:22:59,719
Speaker 2: of double digits since the Falcon Super Bowls.

1814
01:22:59,720 --> 01:23:01,040
Speaker 7: That it is. Wow.

1815
01:23:02,160 --> 01:23:04,519
Speaker 2: That means at any point in the last nine years,

1816
01:23:04,640 --> 01:23:07,479
Speaker 2: if we went down by double digits we didn't win.

1817
01:23:07,880 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 2: It seems incomprehensible.

1818
01:23:10,120 --> 01:23:12,479
Speaker 1: It seems pretty comprehensible to me. You haven't watched those offenses,

1819
01:23:12,840 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: you know, Like, but that's the feeling you had, and

1820
01:23:15,040 --> 01:23:16,720
Speaker 1: I mean it was ingrained into by the time you

1821
01:23:16,800 --> 01:23:19,160
Speaker 1: got to this season, Like, you know, it's probably why

1822
01:23:19,200 --> 01:23:21,599
Speaker 1: when they went down by eleven in the second half

1823
01:23:21,640 --> 01:23:22,960
Speaker 1: in this game that I was kind of like, well,

1824
01:23:23,080 --> 01:23:25,560
Speaker 1: that's it. You know, you just you forget about the

1825
01:23:25,640 --> 01:23:28,280
Speaker 1: fact that Drake may can make seven throws and you're

1826
01:23:28,320 --> 01:23:29,880
Speaker 1: in the end zone and just like that, you know,

1827
01:23:29,920 --> 01:23:32,719
Speaker 1: in four minutes drive. So that's been the X factor.

1828
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:34,559
Speaker 1: But yeah, man, they were they've been bad. I mean,

1829
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:37,240
Speaker 1: it's you felt like, unless they got real help from

1830
01:23:37,280 --> 01:23:39,560
Speaker 1: the other team the last few years, it was it

1831
01:23:39,640 --> 01:23:40,599
Speaker 1: wasn't gonna go their way.

1832
01:23:40,960 --> 01:23:42,960
Speaker 2: Anthony wants to know can we clunch the division this

1833
01:23:43,120 --> 01:23:46,280
Speaker 2: week with a win or does Buffalo have to lose. No,

1834
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,280
Speaker 2: Buffalo has to lose and they play at four to

1835
01:23:49,360 --> 01:23:51,880
Speaker 2: twenty five against the Eagles, so we won't know if

1836
01:23:51,920 --> 01:23:53,800
Speaker 2: we have the division until after that game.

1837
01:23:54,200 --> 01:23:58,840
Speaker 3: If we win, Yeah, sets up for pretty fun trip home,

1838
01:23:58,920 --> 01:24:02,080
Speaker 3: though potentially it was some scoreboard watching going on. It's

1839
01:24:02,080 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 3: a short flight, so, you know, and I do wonder,

1840
01:24:05,520 --> 01:24:09,240
Speaker 3: you know, if there'll be any celebratory things going on

1841
01:24:09,680 --> 01:24:13,280
Speaker 3: if we find out that somebody shouts say they lost.

1842
01:24:14,640 --> 01:24:17,559
Speaker 2: Jordan writes in let's all remember that the number one

1843
01:24:17,640 --> 01:24:21,599
Speaker 2: seed is still in play. According to the Athletic Playoff predicted,

1844
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:23,560
Speaker 2: the Patriots have a thirty eight percent chance and the

1845
01:24:23,640 --> 01:24:26,840
Speaker 2: Broncos are at forty six percent. So I think it's

1846
01:24:27,000 --> 01:24:30,000
Speaker 2: full steam ahead. That one seed is critical in my mind,

1847
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 2: and the Broncos could easily lose Week eighteen to the Chargers,

1848
01:24:34,160 --> 01:24:37,040
Speaker 2: who would have been playing well in our division opponent.

1849
01:24:38,120 --> 01:24:40,280
Speaker 2: I'm curious if you guys see it differently, given how

1850
01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:42,280
Speaker 2: good the Patriots have been on the road this year,

1851
01:24:42,640 --> 01:24:45,320
Speaker 2: and if being road warriors is actually more of an advantage.

1852
01:24:45,760 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: No, I want that buy more than anything. I mean,

1853
01:24:48,320 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: the division title has to come with it, but I

1854
01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: think just for help, Yeah, well that's the thing, and

1855
01:24:52,439 --> 01:24:54,040
Speaker 1: that's why I mean, I think there's an argument to

1856
01:24:54,120 --> 01:24:56,560
Speaker 1: be made that we talked earlier about sitting guys that

1857
01:24:56,720 --> 01:24:59,040
Speaker 1: last week that you know, you might enter that game

1858
01:24:59,479 --> 01:25:01,200
Speaker 1: not knowing, and if you went in and sat a

1859
01:25:01,240 --> 01:25:04,080
Speaker 1: bunch of guys and then Denver lost and you somehow

1860
01:25:04,160 --> 01:25:07,240
Speaker 1: lost with some backups Josh Jobs maybe throwing, you'd be

1861
01:25:07,280 --> 01:25:08,920
Speaker 1: sick to your stomach because you could have gotten yourself

1862
01:25:09,080 --> 01:25:11,280
Speaker 1: a week off. So it's it's such a tough thing

1863
01:25:11,320 --> 01:25:13,400
Speaker 1: to balance because on one hand, you're like, well, they

1864
01:25:13,479 --> 01:25:14,880
Speaker 1: might have to push my guys a little bit this

1865
01:25:15,000 --> 01:25:17,320
Speaker 1: week to get them an extra week's rest. Or do

1866
01:25:17,400 --> 01:25:18,639
Speaker 1: you just say I'm going to give you an extra

1867
01:25:18,720 --> 01:25:20,840
Speaker 1: week's rest, but you're probably gonna have to jump right

1868
01:25:20,880 --> 01:25:21,360
Speaker 1: in next week?

1869
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:25,639
Speaker 3: Oh interesting, as long as you put Drake May under

1870
01:25:25,720 --> 01:25:29,000
Speaker 3: center against Miami and the Jets, you're gonna win a

1871
01:25:29,520 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 3: So like if you like, like if Robert Splaine has

1872
01:25:32,400 --> 01:25:35,439
Speaker 3: to sit out again, or if you know, I don't

1873
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:38,040
Speaker 3: know whatever, you know, Will Campbell's not quite ready and

1874
01:25:38,520 --> 01:25:41,839
Speaker 3: you know whatever, these Treyvon Henderson's still in the protocol,

1875
01:25:42,080 --> 01:25:45,880
Speaker 3: Like you can sit all those guys like these. That's

1876
01:25:45,960 --> 01:25:49,280
Speaker 3: the one real benefit I think the Patriots have with

1877
01:25:50,120 --> 01:25:52,400
Speaker 3: this end of the schedule here being against two teams

1878
01:25:52,439 --> 01:25:55,600
Speaker 3: that the Jets, especially the Dolphins, I think might just

1879
01:25:55,720 --> 01:26:00,200
Speaker 3: be organizationally in a turmoil. But the Jets I think

1880
01:26:00,560 --> 01:26:02,400
Speaker 3: or might be tanking, you know, like I think that

1881
01:26:02,439 --> 01:26:06,360
Speaker 3: you're actively trying to lose, So I just I wouldn't

1882
01:26:06,360 --> 01:26:07,240
Speaker 3: worry too much about it.

1883
01:26:08,120 --> 01:26:08,280
Speaker 19: You know.

1884
01:26:08,360 --> 01:26:11,080
Speaker 3: I think the Patriots will take care of their own business,

1885
01:26:11,200 --> 01:26:12,479
Speaker 3: but they're gonna need some help.

1886
01:26:12,520 --> 01:26:12,760
Speaker 5: Again.

1887
01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:14,320
Speaker 1: I forgot about Drake's I think.

1888
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:16,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, oh yeah, Like this is like, I know, everybody's

1889
01:26:16,800 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 3: gonna have flashbacks to like twenty fifteen and Stephen Jackson

1890
01:26:20,120 --> 01:26:22,040
Speaker 3: and that that Miami game and all that.

1891
01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 15: But this is not.

1892
01:26:23,720 --> 01:26:26,720
Speaker 2: This is not that Curtis and Saint Louis. First off

1893
01:26:26,800 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 2: to the mouth breather in La do us all a favor?

1894
01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,040
Speaker 2: Shut up? No one cares about your self proclaimed wealth.

1895
01:26:32,160 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 2: Your takes are trash, and I'd be willing to bet

1896
01:26:33,960 --> 01:26:37,120
Speaker 2: my last dollar my unborn nephew has more football knowledge

1897
01:26:37,120 --> 01:26:38,880
Speaker 2: than you. How about you go smell your farts in

1898
01:26:38,920 --> 01:26:41,840
Speaker 2: your backyard. I hear the Chargers can use some more fans. Wow,

1899
01:26:41,920 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 2: that's that's pretty harsh. Listener on Listener Crime, two quick

1900
01:26:45,640 --> 01:26:48,840
Speaker 2: questions out of the free agent sign this year, whose

1901
01:26:49,240 --> 01:26:52,320
Speaker 2: contributions have been most impressive in your opinion? I have

1902
01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,880
Speaker 2: to go with Mac Hollins. Well, I don't know, but

1903
01:26:55,040 --> 01:26:57,280
Speaker 2: what was the question, sorry, most impressive free agent in

1904
01:26:57,360 --> 01:26:59,960
Speaker 2: your contributions, most impressive.

1905
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:04,240
Speaker 3: I mean Milton Williams are but he's been heard, I suppose.

1906
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,439
Speaker 2: I mean, Hollins does a lot of the little things.

1907
01:27:07,680 --> 01:27:11,280
Speaker 2: Josh McDaniels called him a chess piece. Yeah, so you know,

1908
01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:14,120
Speaker 2: I can understand, like what Curtis is saying. This might

1909
01:27:14,360 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 2: be a lot of things unnoticed that he's doing to

1910
01:27:17,479 --> 01:27:21,040
Speaker 2: contribute that you know, don't really register walking.

1911
01:27:22,200 --> 01:27:24,320
Speaker 3: But I also just think that, you know, he's got

1912
01:27:24,360 --> 01:27:29,040
Speaker 3: a really good uh playstrength, catch radius, and like it's

1913
01:27:29,160 --> 01:27:31,920
Speaker 3: not I'm sure it's really comforting for a quarterback like

1914
01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:35,520
Speaker 3: like Drake May. You don't necessarily need to be pinpoint

1915
01:27:35,560 --> 01:27:37,639
Speaker 3: accurate when you throw the ball to Matt Collins because

1916
01:27:37,640 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 3: he's six foot five and he's got a huge catch radius.

1917
01:27:40,040 --> 01:27:42,200
Speaker 3: So every time I look at Drake May throw to

1918
01:27:42,280 --> 01:27:45,160
Speaker 3: Mac Collins, there's just like an ease and confidence to

1919
01:27:45,320 --> 01:27:47,559
Speaker 3: it because he knows that he's going to go up

1920
01:27:47,560 --> 01:27:49,600
Speaker 3: and get it over the middle, or he's gonna, you know,

1921
01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:52,280
Speaker 3: catch a pass on the sideline or whatever the case

1922
01:27:52,360 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 3: may be. And there's I mean they're just like they

1923
01:27:55,120 --> 01:27:57,519
Speaker 3: just take those outs, like those quick game outs, like

1924
01:27:57,600 --> 01:28:00,360
Speaker 3: he's just like five yards seven yards at time.

1925
01:28:00,520 --> 01:28:03,240
Speaker 2: What about Chase On He's been good too.

1926
01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:04,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, he's been good.

1927
01:28:04,280 --> 01:28:04,800
Speaker 7: He's been good.

1928
01:28:04,840 --> 01:28:06,519
Speaker 2: He makes some big plays he does. You know, he

1929
01:28:06,560 --> 01:28:08,479
Speaker 2: doesn't make a lot of them, but he you know,

1930
01:28:08,680 --> 01:28:10,040
Speaker 2: he he shows up.

1931
01:28:10,160 --> 01:28:12,560
Speaker 1: I mean they they hit on pretty much everybody that

1932
01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:15,479
Speaker 1: they signed. I mean, it's it's pretty impressive. And you know,

1933
01:28:15,560 --> 01:28:17,479
Speaker 1: now I think mentioned Ben Brown too. You know, they're

1934
01:28:17,560 --> 01:28:20,120
Speaker 1: they're staying ahead of the curve. Marcus Jones in season extension,

1935
01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:24,080
Speaker 1: Ben Brown rat very important depth there. So yeah, Bradberry

1936
01:28:24,160 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 1: was I mean, just one another one.

1937
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:27,800
Speaker 2: I mean, they don't really think of centers, but we

1938
01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:29,439
Speaker 2: haven't had to worry about the position.

1939
01:28:29,640 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, and he was somebody that a lot of people

1940
01:28:31,960 --> 01:28:34,200
Speaker 3: were really low on because of all the PFF grades

1941
01:28:34,200 --> 01:28:36,479
Speaker 3: and all that stuff from last year. And he's been

1942
01:28:36,560 --> 01:28:39,559
Speaker 3: really really good. And I think maybe you know something

1943
01:28:39,600 --> 01:28:42,240
Speaker 3: I was thinking about too. I mean, they played this

1944
01:28:42,360 --> 01:28:44,519
Speaker 3: game with a lot of backups. You know, nine guys

1945
01:28:44,600 --> 01:28:47,040
Speaker 3: got hurt in the game. Campbell's and Milton Williams are

1946
01:28:47,080 --> 01:28:50,960
Speaker 3: still out, Splain is still out. We might have underestimated

1947
01:28:51,040 --> 01:28:53,599
Speaker 3: the depth on this roster. Like, I don't know if

1948
01:28:53,640 --> 01:28:55,559
Speaker 3: the depth on this team is quite as bad as

1949
01:28:55,640 --> 01:28:59,040
Speaker 3: we all thought it was in August, because if Darien Lowe,

1950
01:28:59,240 --> 01:29:01,800
Speaker 3: it wasn't a great game for him, but they still

1951
01:29:01,880 --> 01:29:04,719
Speaker 3: won with him playing at left tackle. You know, guys

1952
01:29:04,760 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 3: are going in and out of the game. You know,

1953
01:29:06,400 --> 01:29:10,080
Speaker 3: they're getting contributions from they Er Munford and you know,

1954
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:14,160
Speaker 3: Corey Durden and Jack Gibbons and you know, all these

1955
01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:17,920
Speaker 3: guys that everyone said in August were going to be

1956
01:29:18,000 --> 01:29:21,320
Speaker 3: liabilities if they had to play, and they're still winning

1957
01:29:21,400 --> 01:29:23,800
Speaker 3: football games without these you know, these players out.

1958
01:29:23,840 --> 01:29:26,280
Speaker 2: In Rabel's post game speech in the locker room, it's

1959
01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:28,360
Speaker 2: kind of a stream of consciousness thing. But one of

1960
01:29:28,400 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 2: the things that he slipped in there is, you know,

1961
01:29:30,280 --> 01:29:34,040
Speaker 2: guys are stepping in and finding out what they can do.

1962
01:29:34,680 --> 01:29:37,280
Speaker 2: And I think those are the that's who he's talking about. Yeah,

1963
01:29:37,360 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 2: those guys, those depth pieces that we didn't think were

1964
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,680
Speaker 2: that great. They are coming in and they're finding out, oh,

1965
01:29:42,760 --> 01:29:45,560
Speaker 2: I can do this, I can do that, like you know,

1966
01:29:45,640 --> 01:29:48,479
Speaker 2: I can play in this league. And of course the

1967
01:29:48,560 --> 01:29:49,800
Speaker 2: coaches are finding that out too.

1968
01:29:49,960 --> 01:29:51,760
Speaker 3: On top of these guys and the coaches deserve a

1969
01:29:51,800 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 3: ton of credit for it as well, you know, not

1970
01:29:53,680 --> 01:29:57,600
Speaker 3: only development behind the scenes, but let's give you know,

1971
01:29:57,720 --> 01:30:00,839
Speaker 3: some love to the assistant coaches that are keeping Vederian

1972
01:30:00,960 --> 01:30:05,240
Speaker 3: load you know, fresh, and working him and keeping him involved.

1973
01:30:05,280 --> 01:30:07,280
Speaker 3: And then he has to step in for Campbell and

1974
01:30:07,680 --> 01:30:09,800
Speaker 3: it's not been you know, always great, but it hasn't

1975
01:30:09,800 --> 01:30:12,960
Speaker 3: been a disaster by any means either with him out there.

1976
01:30:13,200 --> 01:30:15,400
Speaker 3: You know, they've done a great job. All these guys

1977
01:30:15,439 --> 01:30:18,880
Speaker 3: are prepared. They all come in with you know, awareness

1978
01:30:18,920 --> 01:30:21,320
Speaker 3: of the plan and the opponent and what they're going

1979
01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:22,960
Speaker 3: up against. And that's coaching.

1980
01:30:23,720 --> 01:30:26,439
Speaker 2: Second question, with all the talk of who you would

1981
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:29,320
Speaker 2: or wouldn't want to play in the playoffs, which NFC

1982
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,840
Speaker 2: team would be fun to see if and when the

1983
01:30:31,920 --> 01:30:33,120
Speaker 2: Patriots make the Super Bowl?

1984
01:30:33,960 --> 01:30:34,160
Speaker 5: Fun?

1985
01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:35,360
Speaker 1: What do you mean by fun?

1986
01:30:35,520 --> 01:30:37,320
Speaker 2: I think I said it before the Bears.

1987
01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,639
Speaker 1: Yeah, Bears Patriots a throwback game, Yep, it'd be fun

1988
01:30:40,720 --> 01:30:44,439
Speaker 1: a couple of forty years from forty years for from

1989
01:30:44,600 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty five. Yeah, I mean there's I don't know,

1990
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:49,320
Speaker 1: there's intriguing matchups across the board. I mean, they played

1991
01:30:49,400 --> 01:30:51,559
Speaker 1: two Super Bowls already against the Rams, they played one

1992
01:30:51,600 --> 01:30:55,920
Speaker 1: against the Seahawks. You know, there's a I mean, it

1993
01:30:56,000 --> 01:30:59,280
Speaker 1: feels like Philly San Francisco playing at home at their

1994
01:30:59,360 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: own state and the Super Bowl that might like to

1995
01:31:02,000 --> 01:31:05,360
Speaker 1: avoid that one. But there's a lot of intrigue. I

1996
01:31:05,479 --> 01:31:08,759
Speaker 1: just when you stack up the AFC, especially after last weekend,

1997
01:31:08,800 --> 01:31:10,639
Speaker 1: it's just why not us? Why not the Patriots?

1998
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:11,000
Speaker 5: They got it.

1999
01:31:11,000 --> 01:31:12,320
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna have to get hot a little

2000
01:31:12,360 --> 01:31:14,439
Speaker 1: bit and they're gonna have to get some guys back.

2001
01:31:14,520 --> 01:31:16,960
Speaker 1: But you know, nobody in the AFC do I look

2002
01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:18,920
Speaker 1: at and be like, well, thank you know, any of

2003
01:31:18,960 --> 01:31:20,840
Speaker 1: those teams can can be beat if they if Drake

2004
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:22,080
Speaker 1: really plays well enough.

2005
01:31:22,280 --> 01:31:24,320
Speaker 3: I just got to get this defense in order. Yeah,

2006
01:31:24,360 --> 01:31:26,519
Speaker 3: if we're gonna start talking about that, I mean, I

2007
01:31:26,560 --> 01:31:30,840
Speaker 3: think the offense is, you know, good, good enough to

2008
01:31:31,320 --> 01:31:34,080
Speaker 3: go on and run. But defensively, you know, last week

2009
01:31:34,120 --> 01:31:35,840
Speaker 3: it was the inside runs. This week it was the

2010
01:31:35,920 --> 01:31:39,400
Speaker 3: outside runs. Like, doesn't seem to really matter. Wherever teams

2011
01:31:39,520 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 3: kind of strength is running the football, they can kind

2012
01:31:41,760 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 3: of run it there if they want to. You know,

2013
01:31:44,800 --> 01:31:47,439
Speaker 3: I thought the past defense had its moments, but it

2014
01:31:47,520 --> 01:31:49,600
Speaker 3: also had some not so good moments. But you know,

2015
01:31:49,720 --> 01:31:52,160
Speaker 3: run game wise, like you know, Derrick Henry just killed

2016
01:31:52,200 --> 01:31:54,439
Speaker 3: them off tackle again. The numbers were not good, and

2017
01:31:55,000 --> 01:31:58,560
Speaker 3: they tried to play more base defense against Baltimore, and

2018
01:31:58,960 --> 01:32:00,800
Speaker 3: they were giving up five and a half yards of

2019
01:32:00,880 --> 01:32:04,200
Speaker 3: carry in base defense, which is the opposite of what

2020
01:32:04,320 --> 01:32:06,240
Speaker 3: you're trying to do when you play that many big

2021
01:32:06,280 --> 01:32:08,800
Speaker 3: people on the field. So, uh, they they got to

2022
01:32:08,800 --> 01:32:11,160
Speaker 3: get healthy on defense. They got to get back to

2023
01:32:11,200 --> 01:32:13,639
Speaker 3: controlling the line of scrimmage. You know, they're not gonna

2024
01:32:13,760 --> 01:32:15,519
Speaker 3: They're not gonna go to the super Bowl if they

2025
01:32:15,520 --> 01:32:16,839
Speaker 3: don't control the line of scrimmage.

2026
01:32:17,280 --> 01:32:19,719
Speaker 2: Eldred's in North Carolina. What's up? Eldred?

2027
01:32:20,400 --> 01:32:20,559
Speaker 7: Hey?

2028
01:32:21,680 --> 01:32:22,080
Speaker 2: Aldred?

2029
01:32:22,439 --> 01:32:25,000
Speaker 21: Hey, Hey, Hey, tells how you're doing.

2030
01:32:25,080 --> 01:32:25,719
Speaker 2: Marry Christmas.

2031
01:32:25,760 --> 01:32:27,280
Speaker 21: I'm sorry. I'm at the duck and the guys you

2032
01:32:27,439 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 21: on the top.

2033
01:32:27,920 --> 01:32:29,840
Speaker 2: But oh okay, well you need to go or what

2034
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:30,320
Speaker 2: tell me?

2035
01:32:30,360 --> 01:32:30,960
Speaker 1: Got a podcast?

2036
01:32:31,120 --> 01:32:31,920
Speaker 22: No, no, no, I'm good.

2037
01:32:32,000 --> 01:32:36,680
Speaker 21: I'm good. I'm good, and I agree and disagree. O one.

2038
01:32:37,320 --> 01:32:39,920
Speaker 21: You got to shoot for the number one seed. I

2039
01:32:40,000 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 21: don't care. You got that, you know, because you got

2040
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:47,519
Speaker 21: a chance that where La looked to get Dallas Denver

2041
01:32:47,800 --> 01:32:50,479
Speaker 21: might be seen. Nicks won the fall, you know, and

2042
01:32:50,880 --> 01:32:55,000
Speaker 21: you got Jets and Dolphins go ahead, and Evan, give

2043
01:32:55,080 --> 01:32:58,439
Speaker 21: you your flowers. Bro finally saw it ain't in him

2044
01:32:58,439 --> 01:33:00,320
Speaker 21: all the way down, but I'm still there, but I

2045
01:33:00,400 --> 01:33:00,800
Speaker 21: still live.

2046
01:33:00,840 --> 01:33:02,400
Speaker 22: We got the quarterback, you know.

2047
01:33:02,400 --> 01:33:04,560
Speaker 21: What I mean, because he did show their toughness and

2048
01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,600
Speaker 21: they clutch and the last drive the only part of

2049
01:33:06,680 --> 01:33:08,600
Speaker 21: the game I had to see because I had to

2050
01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:12,200
Speaker 21: work that day and I would jump it. But other

2051
01:33:12,280 --> 01:33:15,040
Speaker 21: than that, you know, I'm happy, but we have to

2052
01:33:15,080 --> 01:33:17,080
Speaker 21: fight for that dumb one sees you did in the

2053
01:33:17,200 --> 01:33:18,600
Speaker 21: morning and she looking for me.

2054
01:33:18,720 --> 01:33:21,800
Speaker 2: Okay, I gotta go. All right. Yeah, I can just

2055
01:33:21,840 --> 01:33:23,880
Speaker 2: see Eldred making this call with a doctor in front

2056
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,400
Speaker 2: of him, saying, cough, hold.

2057
01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:27,879
Speaker 1: On, I gotta talk to these guys. This is important.

2058
01:33:28,720 --> 01:33:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, pants down as uh Patty's and agawam, what's up?

2059
01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:37,920
Speaker 2: Patty up?

2060
01:33:37,960 --> 01:33:38,240
Speaker 8: Guys?

2061
01:33:38,479 --> 01:33:40,479
Speaker 22: Uh, Freddie, Mickey, Merry Christmas.

2062
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:40,760
Speaker 8: Evan.

2063
01:33:40,800 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 22: I hope your honika was great, buddy, Thank you. I

2064
01:33:43,040 --> 01:33:45,639
Speaker 22: just had a wanted to say one thing and then

2065
01:33:45,880 --> 01:33:49,400
Speaker 22: end with a question. If if the Broncos, which they

2066
01:33:49,479 --> 01:33:51,840
Speaker 22: probably will win this week, if they win and we win,

2067
01:33:52,240 --> 01:33:54,760
Speaker 22: I would like to see them try and schedule both,

2068
01:33:55,120 --> 01:33:58,839
Speaker 22: you know, the Chargers Broncos game and the past Dolphins

2069
01:33:58,920 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 22: game on Saturday, so we kind of know, you know,

2070
01:34:02,280 --> 01:34:05,240
Speaker 22: I'm guessing if they do. If they do that, the

2071
01:34:05,840 --> 01:34:09,160
Speaker 22: Broncos Chargers game would be the primetime game. But I

2072
01:34:09,280 --> 01:34:11,720
Speaker 22: want to I apologize I wasn't able to hear the

2073
01:34:11,760 --> 01:34:14,040
Speaker 22: beginning of the show. I just wanted to ask you

2074
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:19,559
Speaker 22: guys about Ramadre Stevenson. I think on Saturday, I'm sorry,

2075
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:23,160
Speaker 22: Sunday night, he looked as good as he's looked at

2076
01:34:23,280 --> 01:34:28,120
Speaker 22: maybe since like Game one of last year. And you know,

2077
01:34:28,240 --> 01:34:30,960
Speaker 22: I think going forward, I think he's going to be important,

2078
01:34:31,000 --> 01:34:34,240
Speaker 22: obviously just in past protection. But if he's healthy and

2079
01:34:34,640 --> 01:34:37,719
Speaker 22: you know, whenever Traveon Henderson comes back, if he's able

2080
01:34:37,760 --> 01:34:39,880
Speaker 22: to go full strength and he looks like that, I think,

2081
01:34:40,680 --> 01:34:42,160
Speaker 22: I think we're going to be all right. I think

2082
01:34:42,200 --> 01:34:44,600
Speaker 22: we might make a deep playoff run. And I just

2083
01:34:44,680 --> 01:34:46,040
Speaker 22: want to get your guys thoughts on that.

2084
01:34:46,160 --> 01:34:48,240
Speaker 2: I'll take it off there, all right, thanks.

2085
01:34:48,680 --> 01:34:51,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, So they are just quickly on the scheduling thing.

2086
01:34:51,840 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 3: If the number one seed is still up for grabs

2087
01:34:54,080 --> 01:34:55,800
Speaker 3: between the Patriots and the Broncos, they'll play at the

2088
01:34:55,800 --> 01:34:58,360
Speaker 3: same time, so they wouldn't play on Saturday, because the

2089
01:34:58,400 --> 01:35:01,080
Speaker 3: Saturday games are going to be staggered, so they wouldn't

2090
01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:04,160
Speaker 3: like give a team a OWT, like, oh, like you

2091
01:35:04,240 --> 01:35:07,040
Speaker 3: find out that the Patriots lost, yeah, and then like

2092
01:35:07,120 --> 01:35:09,360
Speaker 3: all now, all of a sudden, the Patriots are you know,

2093
01:35:09,439 --> 01:35:14,240
Speaker 3: we're starting Josh Dobbs, you know or whatever. So but yeah, Remondred,

2094
01:35:14,880 --> 01:35:17,840
Speaker 3: I thought that the cut on the little checkdown that

2095
01:35:17,920 --> 01:35:20,120
Speaker 3: he caught and he turned into like a twenty twenty

2096
01:35:20,160 --> 01:35:24,000
Speaker 3: five yard run was really really impressive. Obviously the touchdown

2097
01:35:24,080 --> 01:35:26,920
Speaker 3: run was good too, but that cut I haven't seen

2098
01:35:26,960 --> 01:35:29,960
Speaker 3: Remandred move latterly like that, and you know, allude a

2099
01:35:30,000 --> 01:35:32,760
Speaker 3: tackler like that in space in a minute, So that

2100
01:35:32,920 --> 01:35:33,479
Speaker 3: was good to see.

2101
01:35:33,560 --> 01:35:35,120
Speaker 1: Just one question I have on the on the schedule

2102
01:35:35,160 --> 01:35:37,320
Speaker 1: stuff is what are the Chargers got to play for

2103
01:35:37,439 --> 01:35:38,120
Speaker 1: in that last week?

2104
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:39,680
Speaker 5: Is that the division? Right?

2105
01:35:39,800 --> 01:35:44,160
Speaker 1: So the division could will be could be if the Chargers.

2106
01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:47,799
Speaker 3: Win in Week seventeen, they're one game behind the Broncos

2107
01:35:47,840 --> 01:35:49,479
Speaker 3: and if they beat the Broncos in that game, they

2108
01:35:49,600 --> 01:35:50,160
Speaker 3: win the division.

2109
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:50,320
Speaker 7: Ok.

2110
01:35:51,439 --> 01:35:53,599
Speaker 3: Yeah, so that game could be for the division, which

2111
01:35:53,640 --> 01:35:55,920
Speaker 3: could also impact things that could be that then become

2112
01:35:56,000 --> 01:35:58,360
Speaker 3: the Sunday night game. So like there's a lot of

2113
01:35:58,680 --> 01:36:01,200
Speaker 3: moving parts there, but for the most part, they try

2114
01:36:01,240 --> 01:36:03,400
Speaker 3: to align those teams so that you can't sit guys.

2115
01:36:03,920 --> 01:36:06,240
Speaker 3: I don't want people to know ahead of time, you know,

2116
01:36:06,320 --> 01:36:06,639
Speaker 3: if they.

2117
01:36:06,920 --> 01:36:09,360
Speaker 2: Give another team in advantage, right, knowing we don't have

2118
01:36:09,520 --> 01:36:12,879
Speaker 2: to play, right, Yeah, Sean's and Vancouver.

2119
01:36:13,000 --> 01:36:16,080
Speaker 10: What's up, Sean, Mike, I really want to thank you

2120
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 10: for doing the nineteen eighty five Patriots podcast as a

2121
01:36:19,160 --> 01:36:24,000
Speaker 10: special team for Actually yeah, well, I actually attended the

2122
01:36:24,080 --> 01:36:26,759
Speaker 10: AFC Championship game in Miami. That was the first NFL

2123
01:36:26,840 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 10: game I ever went to.

2124
01:36:27,960 --> 01:36:28,160
Speaker 2: Wow.

2125
01:36:29,360 --> 01:36:32,080
Speaker 10: Yeah, it was amazing. Now, Paul mentioned earlier a lot

2126
01:36:32,160 --> 01:36:35,640
Speaker 10: of the rookies who who stand it stood out this

2127
01:36:35,760 --> 01:36:39,080
Speaker 10: season one player, and I can understand why you wouldn't

2128
01:36:39,080 --> 01:36:42,360
Speaker 10: mention there's so many contributions. Is Julian Ashby. And I

2129
01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,120
Speaker 10: don't know enough about long snap or play, but I

2130
01:36:45,240 --> 01:36:47,120
Speaker 10: haven't heard his name mentioned to me, So to me,

2131
01:36:47,240 --> 01:36:49,960
Speaker 10: that meets me the success, so that that could be

2132
01:36:50,000 --> 01:36:50,760
Speaker 10: added to the list.

2133
01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:51,200
Speaker 2: Yeah.

2134
01:36:51,600 --> 01:36:56,160
Speaker 10: In terms yeah, in terms of the number one feet,

2135
01:36:56,400 --> 01:36:58,240
Speaker 10: I'm pretty sure the Patriots are going to win the

2136
01:36:58,320 --> 01:37:01,479
Speaker 10: next two game. Sorry, Fred, I think those could be

2137
01:37:01,560 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 10: your guarantees as well. Again, but I think it's up

2138
01:37:05,000 --> 01:37:07,400
Speaker 10: to the Chargers in the in the last game, so

2139
01:37:07,640 --> 01:37:11,280
Speaker 10: I'll leave it at that. Great season than all.

2140
01:37:11,240 --> 01:37:14,240
Speaker 2: Right, thanks Sean. Yeah, we're coming down to the wire.

2141
01:37:14,360 --> 01:37:16,000
Speaker 2: This is great. We are this is good.

2142
01:37:16,120 --> 01:37:18,439
Speaker 1: It's nice to like not be like just waiting for

2143
01:37:18,520 --> 01:37:20,840
Speaker 1: the season and it nice to be still last week

2144
01:37:20,920 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 1: this is the last lot. You know, you just start

2145
01:37:22,600 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: checking boxes and now it's like, yeah, you know, the

2146
01:37:24,920 --> 01:37:27,280
Speaker 1: next two weeks kind of a grind, but like playoffs

2147
01:37:27,320 --> 01:37:27,920
Speaker 1: and like let's just go.

2148
01:37:28,200 --> 01:37:31,120
Speaker 2: I mean, I tell you that is you bring that up.

2149
01:37:31,160 --> 01:37:35,200
Speaker 2: But like, you know, during the Dynasty, you got so

2150
01:37:35,600 --> 01:37:39,320
Speaker 2: used to being in the conversation throughout the playoffs and

2151
01:37:39,960 --> 01:37:43,200
Speaker 2: like when you're not, like it's an empty feeling. It's

2152
01:37:43,200 --> 01:37:45,640
Speaker 2: an empty feeling like we used to be that.

2153
01:37:46,120 --> 01:37:46,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

2154
01:37:46,479 --> 01:37:48,439
Speaker 1: Well, I was even thinking about like going to the combine,

2155
01:37:48,439 --> 01:37:49,040
Speaker 1: you know, like going to.

2156
01:37:49,080 --> 01:37:54,760
Speaker 3: The watching college Yeah. I was already talking about Drake

2157
01:37:54,880 --> 01:37:57,200
Speaker 3: May and the draft and Campbell.

2158
01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:58,920
Speaker 1: And watching Abdul Carter for Penn statement.

2159
01:37:59,000 --> 01:38:01,960
Speaker 3: Yeah oh yeah, the college football playoff was more interesting

2160
01:38:02,000 --> 01:38:03,320
Speaker 3: than the end of the Patriots.

2161
01:38:03,560 --> 01:38:03,760
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2162
01:38:03,840 --> 01:38:08,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's go to Danny and Daytona. Hey, Danny, he

2163
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:09,479
Speaker 2: can you guys hear me.

2164
01:38:09,760 --> 01:38:15,400
Speaker 23: Yeah, I was a good friend Evan and Duce. So

2165
01:38:17,200 --> 01:38:21,080
Speaker 23: to answer your point earlier, Fred, all right, I'll admit this.

2166
01:38:21,439 --> 01:38:23,040
Speaker 23: At least I'm an honest person. I'm gonna come out

2167
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Speaker 23: and say I wasn't one of those people that commented

2168
01:38:25,960 --> 01:38:28,439
Speaker 23: are trolled out there saying that, oh, the Patriots are

2169
01:38:28,479 --> 01:38:30,680
Speaker 23: gonna collapse. The only thing I was worried. And this

2170
01:38:30,840 --> 01:38:34,440
Speaker 23: is a true and this is at least an honest assessment.

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01:38:34,960 --> 01:38:38,519
Speaker 23: I the way the Patriots played. I had most of

2172
01:38:38,600 --> 01:38:41,120
Speaker 23: the game. Like I think Duke came out and said

2173
01:38:41,160 --> 01:38:44,000
Speaker 23: it earlier in the show. They came out slow and sluggish.

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01:38:44,200 --> 01:38:45,519
Speaker 2: It looked terrible, and.

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01:38:45,640 --> 01:38:48,320
Speaker 23: I was like, oh my, I started like not panicking,

2176
01:38:48,400 --> 01:38:50,600
Speaker 23: but I'm like, this is terrible, Like this is not

2177
01:38:50,760 --> 01:38:53,120
Speaker 23: how you respond to a Buffalo game where you came

2178
01:38:53,160 --> 01:38:55,600
Speaker 23: pretty close but you fell short. So I felt like

2179
01:38:55,640 --> 01:38:57,519
Speaker 23: we were falling off a cliff at in that game.

2180
01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:01,080
Speaker 23: But then you know, because Drake made some very bad

2181
01:39:01,200 --> 01:39:05,439
Speaker 23: decisions and I was like, wow, this is terrible. I

2182
01:39:05,600 --> 01:39:08,320
Speaker 23: don't think that. Like I said, he did come back

2183
01:39:08,400 --> 01:39:12,160
Speaker 23: clutch in the in the fourth quarter, which is awesome.

2184
01:39:12,200 --> 01:39:14,920
Speaker 23: I was glad to see him overcome that he held

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01:39:15,040 --> 01:39:18,600
Speaker 23: himself accountable, like he said in the press conference in

2186
01:39:18,680 --> 01:39:21,200
Speaker 23: the Bills game. After the Bills games, so I give

2187
01:39:21,880 --> 01:39:24,960
Speaker 23: I give dre his flower, Drake May his flowers, But

2188
01:39:25,280 --> 01:39:28,080
Speaker 23: I am not like Paul's people from like Murray from

2189
01:39:28,160 --> 01:39:30,920
Speaker 23: ninety eight point five. He was wanting to crucify Drake

2190
01:39:31,000 --> 01:39:34,679
Speaker 23: May after the game, saying, this guy still don't forget

2191
01:39:34,760 --> 01:39:37,080
Speaker 23: the bad plays that he did. So I'm not gonna

2192
01:39:37,120 --> 01:39:40,560
Speaker 23: be like Murray. But uh, he did play bad, and

2193
01:39:40,680 --> 01:39:43,400
Speaker 23: I hope that to see he keeps improving. And then

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01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:46,559
Speaker 23: the other thing I would say is, yeah, I didn't

2195
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,280
Speaker 23: know that was Mike that called that player. I thought

2196
01:39:48,320 --> 01:39:50,679
Speaker 23: it was Jeremy, and I was gonna call for Jeremy's

2197
01:39:50,720 --> 01:39:53,880
Speaker 23: job again. I still think Germany, I still think Jeremy

2198
01:39:53,920 --> 01:39:57,120
Speaker 23: should be fired. He was on the same staff with

2199
01:39:57,200 --> 01:39:59,639
Speaker 23: the Rams, and the Rams just fired their specialty is coordinated.

2200
01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:03,120
Speaker 23: Honestly saw that. So Jeremy was working for the last

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01:40:03,120 --> 01:40:03,679
Speaker 23: couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Jeremy was with the Patriots last year.

2203
01:40:05,960 --> 01:40:10,599
Speaker 2: So I don't all right, thanks Danny, yeah, firing people.

2204
01:40:11,120 --> 01:40:14,040
Speaker 3: Uh, I did not think that Drake played that bad

2205
01:40:14,080 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 3: to start this game.

2206
01:40:15,320 --> 01:40:17,519
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be he made some bad mistakes. I mean,

2207
01:40:17,600 --> 01:40:21,639
Speaker 2: the turnovers were isolated. It wasn't like a string of mistakes.

2208
01:40:21,800 --> 01:40:24,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, you know, so opening driving went right

2209
01:40:25,000 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 3: down the field like he threw im gonna say.

2210
01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:31,040
Speaker 2: You know, like in terms of offense, they didn't start sluggishly. Now,

2211
01:40:31,160 --> 01:40:34,880
Speaker 2: defense it was like night through hut button. We've seen

2212
01:40:34,960 --> 01:40:38,400
Speaker 2: that before on first drives and and by the way,

2213
01:40:38,520 --> 01:40:42,040
Speaker 2: did you see the game last night? Both teams first drive.

2214
01:40:42,600 --> 01:40:46,000
Speaker 2: You know, so that that's a lot that happens a

2215
01:40:46,080 --> 01:40:48,200
Speaker 2: lot in the NFL. Now we're the worst at it.

2216
01:40:48,520 --> 01:40:53,840
Speaker 2: There's no doubt our first drive defense is not good.

2217
01:40:54,120 --> 01:40:57,200
Speaker 1: But you know you think but at some point, Fred,

2218
01:40:57,240 --> 01:40:58,600
Speaker 1: that you'd kind of be like, now, that's just what

2219
01:40:58,720 --> 01:40:58,920
Speaker 1: we do.

2220
01:40:59,439 --> 01:41:01,080
Speaker 2: And that's like I don't mean yeah, but I don't

2221
01:41:01,120 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 2: want to be like that.

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01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:04,640
Speaker 3: But you have to build up that confidence because I

2223
01:41:04,680 --> 01:41:07,640
Speaker 3: think that we're close to that that that might just

2224
01:41:07,720 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 3: be what they are is, you know, a team that

2225
01:41:10,520 --> 01:41:14,559
Speaker 3: makes adjustments and on the fly, but they haven't built

2226
01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 3: up that equity that you like feel like, okay, they'll

2227
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:17,640
Speaker 3: level up.

2228
01:41:17,680 --> 01:41:21,160
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, like, yes, it was you were

2229
01:41:21,200 --> 01:41:24,800
Speaker 2: in a tough spot on Sunday night, but I don't

2230
01:41:24,880 --> 01:41:26,960
Speaker 2: have the same feeling when this team's in a tough

2231
01:41:27,040 --> 01:41:29,960
Speaker 2: spot then last year or the year before because our

2232
01:41:30,040 --> 01:41:33,560
Speaker 2: offense was dreadful. That's not the case this. You know,

2233
01:41:33,680 --> 01:41:35,679
Speaker 2: my hope in this game was one of two things,

2234
01:41:35,720 --> 01:41:37,559
Speaker 2: and I wrote it, you know, that was my opening

2235
01:41:37,600 --> 01:41:40,120
Speaker 2: statement on the bly said, I feel like to win

2236
01:41:40,200 --> 01:41:42,639
Speaker 2: this game. It's a tough matchup. But to win this game,

2237
01:41:43,000 --> 01:41:45,400
Speaker 2: one of two things happens. Either our offense has to

2238
01:41:45,439 --> 01:41:48,280
Speaker 2: play really well or our defense has to play really well.

2239
01:41:48,439 --> 01:41:50,760
Speaker 2: I think it's unreasonable to think both sides are going

2240
01:41:50,800 --> 01:41:54,320
Speaker 2: to play really well. And my thinking is that, listen,

2241
01:41:54,400 --> 01:41:56,720
Speaker 2: if our defense plays the way it's been playing the

2242
01:41:56,800 --> 01:41:59,760
Speaker 2: last few games, I have fate that our offense is

2243
01:41:59,800 --> 01:42:02,800
Speaker 2: going to keep up. You know. That's the difference. That's

2244
01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:04,960
Speaker 2: the difference, and that's what I was kind of hoping for.

2245
01:42:06,000 --> 01:42:07,920
Speaker 1: Well that Evan Evan said about you know, the equity

2246
01:42:08,000 --> 01:42:10,320
Speaker 1: of it and built up, Like, to me, what equity

2247
01:42:10,360 --> 01:42:12,120
Speaker 1: has been built up is that I think this team's

2248
01:42:12,120 --> 01:42:14,040
Speaker 1: going to be a tough out no matter how bad

2249
01:42:14,120 --> 01:42:16,320
Speaker 1: they play on defense. You know, they just I think

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01:42:16,360 --> 01:42:20,200
Speaker 1: they've shown that resilience throughout the year, where yeah, They've

2251
01:42:20,240 --> 01:42:22,120
Speaker 1: had a lot of bad starts, but they always seem

2252
01:42:22,200 --> 01:42:24,640
Speaker 1: to find a way to make a push and you know,

2253
01:42:24,840 --> 01:42:27,120
Speaker 1: kind of pull it together and adjust to the you know,

2254
01:42:27,200 --> 01:42:28,920
Speaker 1: to what the other team is doing. So it's just

2255
01:42:29,120 --> 01:42:30,920
Speaker 1: in that effort and finish thing, Like I just I

2256
01:42:31,040 --> 01:42:33,360
Speaker 1: see that all the time with this team. So you know,

2257
01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:35,800
Speaker 1: I wouldn't want to play the Patriots no matter who

2258
01:42:35,800 --> 01:42:38,000
Speaker 1: gets healthy who doesn't, just you know, with Drake May

2259
01:42:38,080 --> 01:42:40,559
Speaker 1: and just the way the team plays overall.

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01:42:40,880 --> 01:42:43,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, so their first four drives on offense and the

2261
01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:46,839
Speaker 3: in the game on Sunday night, interception in the red zone, touchdown,

2262
01:42:46,960 --> 01:42:49,839
Speaker 3: field goal, fumble in field goal territory.

2263
01:42:49,920 --> 01:42:51,120
Speaker 2: Like they were moving the ball all night.

2264
01:42:51,479 --> 01:42:52,719
Speaker 5: Yeah, And you don't move the ball.

2265
01:42:52,680 --> 01:42:54,720
Speaker 3: Like that if the quarterback is playing bad like the

2266
01:42:54,960 --> 01:42:56,639
Speaker 3: second half against Buffalo he played bad.

2267
01:42:56,760 --> 01:42:58,439
Speaker 5: Yeah, right, like we can say that.

2268
01:42:58,680 --> 01:43:01,759
Speaker 3: But this game, I I really outside of the two turnovers,

2269
01:43:01,800 --> 01:43:03,400
Speaker 3: and I know that the turnovers are a big deal,

2270
01:43:03,560 --> 01:43:07,240
Speaker 3: but I'm telling like, this was not Like he was

2271
01:43:07,520 --> 01:43:08,800
Speaker 3: really really good in this game.

2272
01:43:08,960 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, really good, Riley writes. And I called in last

2273
01:43:12,000 --> 01:43:14,679
Speaker 2: week and made a statement regarding May's fourth quarter comeback

2274
01:43:14,720 --> 01:43:16,840
Speaker 2: against the Ravens. I stated that they are one of

2275
01:43:16,920 --> 01:43:19,800
Speaker 2: the top rated defenses in the league as of late,

2276
01:43:20,400 --> 01:43:23,000
Speaker 2: to which Paul retorted that they are not. While I

2277
01:43:23,120 --> 01:43:25,439
Speaker 2: understand your role as the bad guy in your tendency

2278
01:43:25,520 --> 01:43:28,000
Speaker 2: to disagree with the majority of takes, facts are facts

2279
01:43:28,040 --> 01:43:31,280
Speaker 2: and numbers don't lie. From Week five to sixteen of

2280
01:43:31,360 --> 01:43:34,200
Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five season, the Ravens defense has been

2281
01:43:34,280 --> 01:43:36,760
Speaker 2: elite and there has and here are some stats to

2282
01:43:36,840 --> 01:43:39,720
Speaker 2: back up my claim. One allowed the fewest touchdowns in

2283
01:43:39,720 --> 01:43:43,840
Speaker 2: the NFL nine over an eight week span. Two number

2284
01:43:43,920 --> 01:43:46,439
Speaker 2: one in red zone defense, number three in points allowed

2285
01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:49,240
Speaker 2: fifteen point three, number three in QB hits fifty three

2286
01:43:49,600 --> 01:43:53,080
Speaker 2: and tied for number five, and takeaways thirteen three. Went

2287
01:43:53,200 --> 01:43:55,600
Speaker 2: from only two takeaways in the first five games to

2288
01:43:55,760 --> 01:43:59,400
Speaker 2: eight in the subsequent four. In conclusion, while I respect

2289
01:43:59,439 --> 01:44:02,080
Speaker 2: your role, courage a closer look at the facts before

2290
01:44:02,160 --> 01:44:05,200
Speaker 2: dismissing the claim so quickly, I noticed that too, Paul

2291
01:44:05,360 --> 01:44:08,360
Speaker 2: was very dismissive of the Ravens defense even just today.

2292
01:44:09,120 --> 01:44:13,040
Speaker 2: But as of late, the Ravens defense played a lot

2293
01:44:13,200 --> 01:44:14,880
Speaker 2: better than it did early in the season.

2294
01:44:15,640 --> 01:44:18,320
Speaker 3: But it's been since like Week six. Like, yeah, so

2295
01:44:18,360 --> 01:44:20,120
Speaker 3: I agree with the Emailer. I didn't want to get

2296
01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:21,720
Speaker 3: into it with Paul, so I just kind of let

2297
01:44:21,760 --> 01:44:25,439
Speaker 3: it go. But you know, they they started out like

2298
01:44:25,800 --> 01:44:30,160
Speaker 3: historically bad, yes by Baltimore standards. Since week six on,

2299
01:44:30,880 --> 01:44:33,360
Speaker 3: they like flipped the switch and they'd the Emailers one

2300
01:44:33,400 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 3: hundred percent right. You know, their their stats are their

2301
01:44:36,280 --> 01:44:40,760
Speaker 3: second in scoring. Defense. They were very very have been

2302
01:44:40,920 --> 01:44:45,040
Speaker 3: very very good for like two months now. Defensively. This

2303
01:44:45,200 --> 01:44:47,360
Speaker 3: is the same defense that a week ago shut out

2304
01:44:47,439 --> 01:44:49,439
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow for the first time in his NFL career.

2305
01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:52,280
Speaker 3: Joe Burrow had never been shut out as an NFL

2306
01:44:52,360 --> 01:44:55,200
Speaker 3: quarterback until the Ravens defense did it to him a

2307
01:44:55,240 --> 01:44:57,519
Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago. And then Drake May just went

2308
01:44:57,560 --> 01:44:59,320
Speaker 3: out and put fourteen on the board in the fourth

2309
01:44:59,439 --> 01:45:02,920
Speaker 3: quarter again that same defense. So the Emailers one hundred

2310
01:45:02,920 --> 01:45:05,960
Speaker 3: percent spot on. This Ravens defense has been much much better, right.

2311
01:45:06,880 --> 01:45:10,599
Speaker 2: Paul likes to diminish the accomplishments of the home team.

2312
01:45:11,479 --> 01:45:13,080
Speaker 3: It was one of the you know sometimes when Paul

2313
01:45:13,160 --> 01:45:15,519
Speaker 3: says something and like you have you have PI battles.

2314
01:45:15,680 --> 01:45:19,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, well that one didn't want.

2315
01:45:18,960 --> 01:45:22,439
Speaker 1: To get My thing is when Paul like misinterprets a point,

2316
01:45:22,479 --> 01:45:24,519
Speaker 1: you're trying to make and then he starts arguing against

2317
01:45:24,560 --> 01:45:26,479
Speaker 1: the point you weren't trying to make, and now you're like,

2318
01:45:26,680 --> 01:45:27,559
Speaker 1: that's not See.

2319
01:45:27,560 --> 01:45:30,559
Speaker 2: The thing I've learned over by years with Paul Parrillo

2320
01:45:30,720 --> 01:45:32,880
Speaker 2: is that he has a lot of arguments going on.

2321
01:45:33,920 --> 01:45:36,599
Speaker 2: It has a lot of takes that he's getting ready

2322
01:45:36,640 --> 01:45:42,800
Speaker 2: to defend down the road with strategic and that's a

2323
01:45:42,880 --> 01:45:45,840
Speaker 2: lot of what's going on with him. I see right

2324
01:45:45,920 --> 01:45:49,559
Speaker 2: through it. I see right through it. Sam from Saint

2325
01:45:49,640 --> 01:45:53,040
Speaker 2: catherine'es call me crazy, but I'd rather rest my starters

2326
01:45:53,120 --> 01:45:56,360
Speaker 2: this week over next week. The Jets stink and we

2327
01:45:56,400 --> 01:45:58,240
Speaker 2: should be able to beat them with our backups. I

2328
01:45:58,280 --> 01:46:01,479
Speaker 2: don't want Drake or any of our important players anywhere

2329
01:46:01,560 --> 01:46:02,759
Speaker 2: near the MetLife turf.

2330
01:46:03,160 --> 01:46:05,000
Speaker 1: I know that is true, but that is probably what

2331
01:46:05,120 --> 01:46:07,840
Speaker 1: I scare most about this game, is that turf. Yeah,

2332
01:46:08,000 --> 01:46:11,040
Speaker 1: I know some time I hear you, well, Paul, I

2333
01:46:11,120 --> 01:46:12,880
Speaker 1: have a question for went, like, when was the first

2334
01:46:12,920 --> 01:46:16,000
Speaker 1: time after hiring Paul that you're like, this guy is special.

2335
01:46:16,640 --> 01:46:19,280
Speaker 1: He likes to yell, he's ready to go on, Like,

2336
01:46:19,360 --> 01:46:20,720
Speaker 1: I mean, did you know when you hired him that,

2337
01:46:20,880 --> 01:46:23,120
Speaker 1: like because because you didn't have a radio show when

2338
01:46:23,120 --> 01:46:25,320
Speaker 1: you hired him right, like you you were hiring him

2339
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:27,439
Speaker 1: as a writer, and you didn't realize like his true

2340
01:46:27,479 --> 01:46:31,880
Speaker 1: superpower was really right getting in arguments and the debating people.

2341
01:46:32,360 --> 01:46:36,240
Speaker 2: Well, I also had a guy named Brian Moury.

2342
01:46:36,800 --> 01:46:39,280
Speaker 1: Well, they would they would go at it.

2343
01:46:39,400 --> 01:46:42,200
Speaker 2: As you know, President was said, the talk doesn't stop

2344
01:46:42,439 --> 01:46:45,639
Speaker 2: when the microphones were off around here, and the talk

2345
01:46:45,960 --> 01:46:49,040
Speaker 2: began a long time before the microphones would turned on,

2346
01:46:49,200 --> 01:46:51,639
Speaker 2: and he and Maury would go at it. They would

2347
01:46:51,720 --> 01:46:53,880
Speaker 2: go at it, and then Maury would pick out bring

2348
01:46:53,960 --> 01:46:56,840
Speaker 2: out the media guide and just start banging away at

2349
01:46:56,960 --> 01:46:59,960
Speaker 2: facts and Paul would just get They would go at it.

2350
01:47:00,120 --> 01:47:01,600
Speaker 1: And you just sit back and push the micro in

2351
01:47:01,600 --> 01:47:02,640
Speaker 1: and they look what I oh, yeah, what.

2352
01:47:02,840 --> 01:47:05,240
Speaker 2: Are the best days in Paul's life? Was when Brian left?

2353
01:47:06,960 --> 01:47:09,599
Speaker 2: Which time the first time?

2354
01:47:10,960 --> 01:47:13,800
Speaker 1: So now yeah, so I and then then Andy came

2355
01:47:13,840 --> 01:47:15,960
Speaker 1: in and you're like, oh boy, more fuel for the fire.

2356
01:47:16,280 --> 01:47:18,679
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and Paul, I mean like he and his brother,

2357
01:47:18,960 --> 01:47:20,040
Speaker 2: oh used to go at it all.

2358
01:47:20,479 --> 01:47:20,679
Speaker 20: Yeah.

2359
01:47:21,000 --> 01:47:24,800
Speaker 3: You know, Paul surprised me though, you know, I thought

2360
01:47:24,880 --> 01:47:27,960
Speaker 3: that all the nerd stuff that I say, I thought

2361
01:47:28,000 --> 01:47:31,439
Speaker 3: he was gonna just scold me if twenty four he's

2362
01:47:31,560 --> 01:47:34,200
Speaker 3: more open minded than you might think, you know, like

2363
01:47:34,280 --> 01:47:36,240
Speaker 3: he's willing to listen to.

2364
01:47:36,280 --> 01:47:38,320
Speaker 1: Some clock management guy. I mean he brought up I

2365
01:47:38,400 --> 01:47:41,320
Speaker 1: mean give Paul credit for I pointed out I thought

2366
01:47:41,360 --> 01:47:44,479
Speaker 1: Brendan Schooler had just an outstanding kickoff tackle on that

2367
01:47:44,600 --> 01:47:46,519
Speaker 1: last kickoff where they had been kicking out of bounds,

2368
01:47:46,520 --> 01:47:48,800
Speaker 1: they finally kicked it and I said, you know, well,

2369
01:47:48,840 --> 01:47:50,280
Speaker 1: why do they choose to kick it there? And then

2370
01:47:50,280 --> 01:47:51,639
Speaker 1: Paul was like, well, they might be trying to get

2371
01:47:51,680 --> 01:47:53,360
Speaker 1: the run to get to the two minute warning to

2372
01:47:53,439 --> 01:47:55,880
Speaker 1: burn that clock stock, which doesn't even occurred to me.

2373
01:47:56,040 --> 01:47:59,000
Speaker 1: But Paul, who is you know, very stressed to point

2374
01:47:59,040 --> 01:48:01,680
Speaker 1: it on clock management and those kind of things. But

2375
01:48:02,600 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: but that play was great by Schooler. I never watched

2376
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:06,120
Speaker 1: the Special Teams really when I'm going back to it,

2377
01:48:06,200 --> 01:48:08,000
Speaker 1: but I was like, I got to watch this one play,

2378
01:48:08,080 --> 01:48:10,439
Speaker 1: and that, I think, to me summed up why Brendan

2379
01:48:10,439 --> 01:48:13,519
Speaker 1: Schooler is a Special Special Teams player, especially going back

2380
01:48:13,560 --> 01:48:15,080
Speaker 1: last week when they got you know, torched by a

2381
01:48:15,160 --> 01:48:17,280
Speaker 1: couple of times. That I mean, just the ability full

2382
01:48:17,320 --> 01:48:19,519
Speaker 1: speed make a guy miss, get right around, boom tackle

2383
01:48:19,560 --> 01:48:21,680
Speaker 1: the guy like the thirty one don't tell Paul that.

2384
01:48:21,800 --> 01:48:22,200
Speaker 5: No, I don't.

2385
01:48:22,800 --> 01:48:25,200
Speaker 3: I would just even it could It doesn't even need

2386
01:48:25,280 --> 01:48:27,719
Speaker 3: to be like in a formal setting or on the record.

2387
01:48:27,760 --> 01:48:28,400
Speaker 5: I did a good job.

2388
01:48:28,560 --> 01:48:31,840
Speaker 3: I just want Paul in stretch. I just want to

2389
01:48:31,880 --> 01:48:35,560
Speaker 3: watch them talk about the clock management stuff because I

2390
01:48:35,600 --> 01:48:38,320
Speaker 3: feel like that's like me, like talking to like Rabel

2391
01:48:38,439 --> 01:48:40,439
Speaker 3: or Josh or something like that. Or am I you

2392
01:48:40,520 --> 01:48:42,360
Speaker 3: know you're just like this is my dream come true? Right,

2393
01:48:43,160 --> 01:48:44,639
Speaker 3: I just get the two of them in a room

2394
01:48:44,720 --> 01:48:46,680
Speaker 3: and let the lets them, let them talk ball.

2395
01:48:47,600 --> 01:48:49,080
Speaker 1: I was just going to say something I didn't even

2396
01:48:49,080 --> 01:48:49,360
Speaker 1: think of that.

2397
01:48:49,520 --> 01:48:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, my god, this is magic. Yeah, now that

2398
01:48:51,800 --> 01:48:55,120
Speaker 2: would be a good conversation to listen to. I shouldn't.

2399
01:48:55,360 --> 01:48:58,360
Speaker 2: I certainly wouldn't want to partake because I get a

2400
01:48:58,479 --> 01:49:03,719
Speaker 2: popsicle headache thinking about it. All that. Kyle from Pembroke

2401
01:49:04,240 --> 01:49:06,720
Speaker 2: to stumped the grump questions for Paul. He's not here,

2402
01:49:06,800 --> 01:49:09,400
Speaker 2: so we'll try to answer him. When was the last

2403
01:49:09,439 --> 01:49:13,480
Speaker 2: time the Jets swept the Patriots swept the Patriots?

2404
01:49:14,160 --> 01:49:18,000
Speaker 1: I don't know, I mean, was that like ninety eight?

2405
01:49:19,280 --> 01:49:24,639
Speaker 2: Close? Little little late it happened after that two thousands?

2406
01:49:25,760 --> 01:49:29,599
Speaker 2: I felt like in that little yeah figure When did

2407
01:49:29,640 --> 01:49:32,679
Speaker 2: the Jets first beat a Tom Brady led Patriots team?

2408
01:49:33,320 --> 01:49:36,080
Speaker 2: The first time they beat a team with Tom Brady

2409
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:39,280
Speaker 2: a quarterback? Six regular season before that?

2410
01:49:41,400 --> 01:49:41,760
Speaker 3: I don't know.

2411
01:49:42,160 --> 01:49:46,320
Speaker 2: Oh two week sixteen thirty to seventeen about that season, ever,

2412
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:49,240
Speaker 2: Paul would have got that time, he would have got it.

2413
01:49:49,400 --> 01:49:52,679
Speaker 1: Yeah, oh two y like nine? What went wrong?

2414
01:49:52,760 --> 01:49:52,880
Speaker 3: Hey?

2415
01:49:52,880 --> 01:49:56,559
Speaker 2: Would you hear see what happened with Metcalf? Yeah?

2416
01:49:56,680 --> 01:49:57,960
Speaker 1: Suspending two games?

2417
01:49:58,160 --> 01:49:58,360
Speaker 3: Yeah?

2418
01:49:58,640 --> 01:49:58,880
Speaker 8: What was?

2419
01:49:58,960 --> 01:49:59,160
Speaker 1: What was?

2420
01:49:59,360 --> 01:50:00,960
Speaker 2: Why did they get into? But more so, do you

2421
01:50:01,000 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 2: know how to see how much money he lost? Forty

2422
01:50:04,080 --> 01:50:05,080
Speaker 2: five million dollars?

2423
01:50:05,760 --> 01:50:08,400
Speaker 3: Oh my god, Yeah, they're they're appealing, so we'll see,

2424
01:50:08,920 --> 01:50:09,160
Speaker 3: you know.

2425
01:50:09,520 --> 01:50:10,240
Speaker 1: That's crazy.

2426
01:50:10,760 --> 01:50:11,720
Speaker 2: What do I mean?

2427
01:50:11,760 --> 01:50:13,160
Speaker 1: I saw him push the guy?

2428
01:50:13,240 --> 01:50:14,320
Speaker 5: Do we know what like started?

2429
01:50:14,360 --> 01:50:14,400
Speaker 1: Like?

2430
01:50:14,479 --> 01:50:17,439
Speaker 2: Did he just guy said something and you know, nothing

2431
01:50:17,600 --> 01:50:20,599
Speaker 2: was thrown or anything like that, So we're he said

2432
01:50:20,640 --> 01:50:22,519
Speaker 2: something and he came and you know you saw he

2433
01:50:22,600 --> 01:50:24,799
Speaker 2: pulled him down and the guy was asking for an autograph.

2434
01:50:24,880 --> 01:50:26,240
Speaker 1: Alternative video came out.

2435
01:50:26,600 --> 01:50:28,519
Speaker 2: Oh so why did he do that then? If he

2436
01:50:28,640 --> 01:50:30,720
Speaker 2: was just asking for I don't think he think.

2437
01:50:31,240 --> 01:50:33,280
Speaker 1: Well, this guy called him by his first name and

2438
01:50:33,439 --> 01:50:34,320
Speaker 1: social media stinket.

2439
01:50:34,439 --> 01:50:36,599
Speaker 2: He didn't like being called by his first name. Okay,

2440
01:50:36,680 --> 01:50:38,760
Speaker 2: that's right. He said that he used his full name,

2441
01:50:38,800 --> 01:50:40,479
Speaker 2: which was like d some something.

2442
01:50:40,640 --> 01:50:40,840
Speaker 7: Yeah.

2443
01:50:42,040 --> 01:50:45,640
Speaker 2: So maybe but maybe like yeah, maybe he's got a

2444
01:50:45,720 --> 01:50:51,000
Speaker 2: thing about that something. Yeah, and maybe that guy knew

2445
01:50:51,040 --> 01:50:53,400
Speaker 2: he had the thing about that. I don't know whatever

2446
01:50:53,479 --> 01:50:55,240
Speaker 2: he said he got to him.

2447
01:50:55,320 --> 01:50:56,360
Speaker 1: It's Declan nobody.

2448
01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:58,960
Speaker 3: I thought I thought it was Declan, but it's spelt

2449
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 3: a little funk, so it's spelled de k a y

2450
01:51:04,040 --> 01:51:06,000
Speaker 3: l i n. So that's why he goes by DK

2451
01:51:06,200 --> 01:51:06,920
Speaker 3: because it's ok.

2452
01:51:07,160 --> 01:51:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, great show, says Hector in Pennsylvania. I'm not critical

2453
01:51:13,840 --> 01:51:15,879
Speaker 2: of the team, and we need to enjoy the success

2454
01:51:15,920 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 2: as Patriots fans. But I do have a concern over

2455
01:51:18,200 --> 01:51:20,360
Speaker 2: the defense. And this question is for Evan.

2456
01:51:20,560 --> 01:51:21,679
Speaker 3: Oh sorry, guys.

2457
01:51:21,840 --> 01:51:24,400
Speaker 2: Is the defensive scheme hurting Gonzo's player or is he

2458
01:51:24,520 --> 01:51:27,200
Speaker 2: not completely healed? I know he was selected to the

2459
01:51:27,240 --> 01:51:29,720
Speaker 2: Pro Bowl, but sometimes once you've been selected, they keep

2460
01:51:29,920 --> 01:51:32,400
Speaker 2: selecting you even though you don't have a good season

2461
01:51:32,439 --> 01:51:35,320
Speaker 2: compared to the season prior. Just concerned about it because

2462
01:51:35,360 --> 01:51:38,000
Speaker 2: if the defensive scheme doesn't suit him, I feel he

2463
01:51:38,080 --> 01:51:38,880
Speaker 2: won't be here long.

2464
01:51:39,800 --> 01:51:44,040
Speaker 3: It's a fair concern. Yeah, I can't put my finger

2465
01:51:44,120 --> 01:51:47,360
Speaker 3: on it either, And it's just an eye test thing,

2466
01:51:47,560 --> 01:51:49,760
Speaker 3: like the numbers if you want to go by, like

2467
01:51:49,960 --> 01:51:53,480
Speaker 3: you know, the charting numbers of like his completion percentage

2468
01:51:53,520 --> 01:51:56,160
Speaker 3: and the touchdowns he's actually allowed, and like it's not

2469
01:51:56,280 --> 01:51:59,960
Speaker 3: that bad, Like it's all pretty much in the ballpark

2470
01:52:00,240 --> 01:52:02,000
Speaker 3: of what it's been in other years. But when you

2471
01:52:02,120 --> 01:52:04,920
Speaker 3: watch it, there's just more reps to me with him

2472
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 3: that are just non competitive than what you're used to seeing.

2473
01:52:08,280 --> 01:52:10,320
Speaker 3: And a lot of it is that like off zone

2474
01:52:10,439 --> 01:52:14,320
Speaker 3: or offman stuff. And I don't think he's the best

2475
01:52:14,720 --> 01:52:17,520
Speaker 3: zone corner, Like I think he gets a little bit lost.

2476
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:19,680
Speaker 1: At the top of the route and especially come up

2477
01:52:19,680 --> 01:52:20,040
Speaker 1: and tackle.

2478
01:52:20,280 --> 01:52:23,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know the tackling and you know these

2479
01:52:24,240 --> 01:52:28,000
Speaker 3: offenses nowadays, like so much of the run game now

2480
01:52:28,200 --> 01:52:30,120
Speaker 3: is played out in space, and they're trying to get

2481
01:52:30,160 --> 01:52:33,000
Speaker 3: the defensive backs in the point of attack and try

2482
01:52:33,080 --> 01:52:36,439
Speaker 3: to run at corners and safeties instead of running at

2483
01:52:36,479 --> 01:52:39,880
Speaker 3: defensive linemen and linebackers. And you know that means that

2484
01:52:40,080 --> 01:52:43,479
Speaker 3: your corners have to take on blocks, they have to tackle,

2485
01:52:43,640 --> 01:52:46,360
Speaker 3: they have to be you know, willing and able to

2486
01:52:46,479 --> 01:52:49,720
Speaker 3: do those different types of things. Well, I don't know

2487
01:52:49,760 --> 01:52:50,120
Speaker 3: what it is.

2488
01:52:50,320 --> 01:52:53,360
Speaker 2: Well if if the hamstring is still hampering him or

2489
01:52:53,400 --> 01:52:56,040
Speaker 2: if it's something else. If I was his agent, I

2490
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:58,840
Speaker 2: try to leak that out there. Yeah, yeah, sure, you know,

2491
01:52:59,040 --> 01:53:01,560
Speaker 2: because there's contract coming up, either with this team or

2492
01:53:01,640 --> 01:53:04,160
Speaker 2: some other team, and I'd want the world to know

2493
01:53:04,360 --> 01:53:05,479
Speaker 2: that he's not one hundred percent.

2494
01:53:05,640 --> 01:53:06,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this will be his fifth year.

2495
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:07,280
Speaker 2: Pickup.

2496
01:53:07,360 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 1: In the spring, I did it like a lot of

2497
01:53:10,800 --> 01:53:13,200
Speaker 1: deep dive on next Gen of like, you know, all

2498
01:53:13,400 --> 01:53:16,000
Speaker 1: the amount of zone and different coverages they're playing according

2499
01:53:16,040 --> 01:53:17,720
Speaker 1: to the next Gen. But now I just I think

2500
01:53:17,720 --> 01:53:20,439
Speaker 1: it's important to highlight like they still play a lot

2501
01:53:20,479 --> 01:53:23,120
Speaker 1: of man. Like they're still above the league average in man,

2502
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,560
Speaker 1: but they play like thirty percent as opposed to the

2503
01:53:26,600 --> 01:53:29,360
Speaker 1: old Belichick twenty nineteen, which is like sixty percent man.

2504
01:53:29,479 --> 01:53:32,800
Speaker 1: So it's like a complicated question to me because I

2505
01:53:32,880 --> 01:53:35,720
Speaker 1: think generally speaking, they want to play zone on first

2506
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:37,800
Speaker 1: and second down, keep eyes on the quarterback, come up

2507
01:53:37,840 --> 01:53:39,840
Speaker 1: and tackle, and on third down they want to man

2508
01:53:39,920 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 1: you up and make you make you beat them. So

2509
01:53:42,400 --> 01:53:44,519
Speaker 1: there still is a value to having a man corner,

2510
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:47,760
Speaker 1: but it's just how valuable is it where it's you're

2511
01:53:47,800 --> 01:53:50,240
Speaker 1: not playing man sixty percent of the snaps now where

2512
01:53:50,280 --> 01:53:53,320
Speaker 1: it's that's pretty much what Stefan Gilmore twenty nineteen defensive

2513
01:53:53,520 --> 01:53:54,360
Speaker 1: MVP is doing.

2514
01:53:55,120 --> 01:53:57,559
Speaker 5: So it's it's a tough question to answer.

2515
01:53:57,600 --> 01:53:59,960
Speaker 1: And it's also I look at I've always kind of

2516
01:54:00,120 --> 01:54:02,800
Speaker 1: defaulted to the front seven makes your defense. If you've

2517
01:54:02,800 --> 01:54:04,519
Speaker 1: got a great front seven, you'll kind of make do

2518
01:54:04,680 --> 01:54:07,120
Speaker 1: with what the second area is. And the covers are

2519
01:54:07,200 --> 01:54:09,120
Speaker 1: kind of bare at the edge spots right now, especially

2520
01:54:09,200 --> 01:54:10,880
Speaker 1: long term, you know, you don't you know, you're at

2521
01:54:11,000 --> 01:54:12,360
Speaker 1: least you don't have to figure out what to do

2522
01:54:12,400 --> 01:54:14,519
Speaker 1: with Chase on So is there an argument to be

2523
01:54:14,600 --> 01:54:18,160
Speaker 1: made that a man heavy team like Detroit that does

2524
01:54:18,200 --> 01:54:20,960
Speaker 1: play that much man might say he's worth a first

2525
01:54:21,000 --> 01:54:23,120
Speaker 1: round pick to us, you know, and you can say.

2526
01:54:24,600 --> 01:54:26,280
Speaker 3: One for two and I think Gonzo is a better

2527
01:54:26,320 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 3: player than Sauce.

2528
01:54:27,120 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 1: There you go, Son, I don't rule those kind of

2529
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:32,800
Speaker 1: conversations out that you want to readjust your resources with

2530
01:54:32,960 --> 01:54:35,640
Speaker 1: a defense that let's face it, they need help. They're

2531
01:54:35,680 --> 01:54:37,320
Speaker 1: going to need a lot of help this safseason. There's

2532
01:54:37,320 --> 01:54:38,560
Speaker 1: going to be I mean, Evan and I have already

2533
01:54:38,560 --> 01:54:40,440
Speaker 1: been talking about the edge class and that being a

2534
01:54:40,480 --> 01:54:43,160
Speaker 1: potential area to you know, bring somebody in. So it's

2535
01:54:43,800 --> 01:54:46,000
Speaker 1: a great conversation to have in discussion. But you know,

2536
01:54:46,200 --> 01:54:48,880
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, you've got a world

2537
01:54:48,960 --> 01:54:51,560
Speaker 1: class athlete at cornerback, and that to me is like

2538
01:54:51,640 --> 01:54:53,640
Speaker 1: kind of my default of like, these guys do not

2539
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:56,880
Speaker 1: grow on trees. He's a special mover and a lot

2540
01:54:56,960 --> 01:54:59,240
Speaker 1: of these games too, haven't really been matchups that.

2541
01:55:00,200 --> 01:55:01,480
Speaker 5: Show you what his value is.

2542
01:55:01,600 --> 01:55:02,960
Speaker 1: Now you got them like, well, we got to stick

2543
01:55:03,000 --> 01:55:06,560
Speaker 1: them on on flowers because you know, because Marcus Jones

2544
01:55:06,640 --> 01:55:09,560
Speaker 1: is banged up, and you know, so I continue to

2545
01:55:09,600 --> 01:55:11,040
Speaker 1: think that if we get into maybe one of these

2546
01:55:11,080 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 1: matchups like against Houston where they do have some outside

2547
01:55:13,600 --> 01:55:15,640
Speaker 1: receivers that like you want a man up that that

2548
01:55:15,720 --> 01:55:18,040
Speaker 1: maybe you'll start to say, oh, yeah, that's why we

2549
01:55:18,120 --> 01:55:20,120
Speaker 1: have Gonzo, because you know, I don't want to pull

2550
01:55:20,120 --> 01:55:21,480
Speaker 1: it up right now. But there are games where they

2551
01:55:21,520 --> 01:55:24,600
Speaker 1: play a bunch of man too. So to me, when

2552
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 1: I look at like their schematics and all that, I

2553
01:55:26,600 --> 01:55:27,760
Speaker 1: don't know how you feel what. I just feel like

2554
01:55:27,760 --> 01:55:29,800
Speaker 1: they're all over the map, like they have no tendencies.

2555
01:55:29,840 --> 01:55:32,520
Speaker 1: It's like you just, yeah, they're generally a little bit

2556
01:55:32,560 --> 01:55:35,720
Speaker 1: more man, but otherwise you don't really know what you're

2557
01:55:35,720 --> 01:55:36,120
Speaker 1: gonna get.

2558
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:39,120
Speaker 3: They're definitely, you know, one of those defenses I think

2559
01:55:39,240 --> 01:55:41,680
Speaker 3: on it first and second down. I know the all

2560
01:55:41,760 --> 01:55:45,840
Speaker 3: the off coverage drives people nuts, but in today's day

2561
01:55:45,840 --> 01:55:48,000
Speaker 3: and age, you got to give up something. You can't

2562
01:55:48,200 --> 01:55:51,520
Speaker 3: just expect to take away every blade of grass against

2563
01:55:51,520 --> 01:55:53,880
Speaker 3: these offenses. And I think a lot of what you

2564
01:55:53,960 --> 01:55:56,200
Speaker 3: see with them on early downs is like, let's limit

2565
01:55:56,280 --> 01:55:58,760
Speaker 3: the big plays, Let's keep things in front of us,

2566
01:55:59,520 --> 01:56:01,760
Speaker 3: you know, let's make them march, you know, let's make

2567
01:56:01,840 --> 01:56:03,080
Speaker 3: them go down the field on us.

2568
01:56:03,160 --> 01:56:04,160
Speaker 8: And that.

2569
01:56:06,080 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 3: That's a fine strategy. It's just not I know that

2570
01:56:08,600 --> 01:56:11,280
Speaker 3: people drive every week. I have people out there in

2571
01:56:11,360 --> 01:56:13,720
Speaker 3: my reply is saying like why are they playing so

2572
01:56:13,840 --> 01:56:16,280
Speaker 3: much zone? Why are they playing off the line of scrimmage? Well,

2573
01:56:16,920 --> 01:56:19,240
Speaker 3: because it's first and ten from like the thirty five,

2574
01:56:19,320 --> 01:56:21,680
Speaker 3: and they're not gonna just cover zero at you know,

2575
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:25,320
Speaker 3: every single play, so like they're trying to, you know,

2576
01:56:25,880 --> 01:56:29,080
Speaker 3: manage the situation and manage the game. He's a great,

2577
01:56:29,160 --> 01:56:31,840
Speaker 3: great player, and I think that's where my frustrations come

2578
01:56:31,880 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 3: from with it, because I know how good he is

2579
01:56:34,280 --> 01:56:35,880
Speaker 3: and I know that he can be the best corner

2580
01:56:35,920 --> 01:56:39,800
Speaker 3: in the league. And for whatever reason, this just hasn't

2581
01:56:39,920 --> 01:56:43,360
Speaker 3: been at the year where he showcased that. And and

2582
01:56:43,520 --> 01:56:45,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what the answers to that, And I

2583
01:56:45,680 --> 01:56:48,480
Speaker 3: think a piece of me too, like I would hate

2584
01:56:48,520 --> 01:56:51,040
Speaker 3: to see him get traded like they they drafted a

2585
01:56:51,160 --> 01:56:53,080
Speaker 3: star cornerback in the first round. Is one of the

2586
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:56,040
Speaker 3: only draft picks in that time frame that they actually

2587
01:56:56,120 --> 01:57:00,720
Speaker 3: hit on. He's a great player, you know, he's young,

2588
01:57:00,880 --> 01:57:04,960
Speaker 3: he's talented, everything. And because it's not like a perfect fit,

2589
01:57:05,240 --> 01:57:07,360
Speaker 3: like they're gonna end up trading like I would hate that.

2590
01:57:07,600 --> 01:57:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that would be terrible.

2591
01:57:09,320 --> 01:57:11,240
Speaker 3: So I just I hope that they can find a

2592
01:57:11,320 --> 01:57:13,080
Speaker 3: way to figure it out.

2593
01:57:13,280 --> 01:57:15,440
Speaker 1: Right then you saw it, sorry, Fred, but just then

2594
01:57:15,480 --> 01:57:18,040
Speaker 1: you swap it out for like a tough guy who

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01:57:18,080 --> 01:57:20,040
Speaker 1: can come up and tackle and play zone on early downs.

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01:57:20,080 --> 01:57:21,520
Speaker 1: But then you get the third down against the good

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01:57:21,560 --> 01:57:24,600
Speaker 1: teams in the playoffs, where another thing I truly believe

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01:57:24,720 --> 01:57:26,920
Speaker 1: is that you need athletes to match athletes. You're gonna

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01:57:26,920 --> 01:57:28,640
Speaker 1: go against Jamar Chase. You don't want to go in

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01:57:28,720 --> 01:57:30,600
Speaker 1: with a guy, Oh yeah, well he's a great zone tackler.

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01:57:30,760 --> 01:57:32,360
Speaker 1: You know, he's police grade and zone he comes up

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01:57:32,360 --> 01:57:35,040
Speaker 1: and tackles. You're gonna need those guys against the best team.

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01:57:35,160 --> 01:57:37,120
Speaker 1: So let's just wait and see two how they match

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01:57:37,200 --> 01:57:38,120
Speaker 1: up against those good teams.

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01:57:38,400 --> 01:57:42,280
Speaker 2: Jake is in Alabama. I recently got stationed at Fort Rucker,

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01:57:42,320 --> 01:57:44,800
Speaker 2: Alabama to train to be a Blackhawk pilot, and I'm

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01:57:44,840 --> 01:57:47,000
Speaker 2: living in a little town called Enterprise. Thank you for

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01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:49,640
Speaker 2: your service. Good luck with that. I just saw that

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01:57:49,760 --> 01:57:52,480
Speaker 2: Marcus Jones donated some money to the high school football

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01:57:52,560 --> 01:57:55,320
Speaker 2: program here as it's where he's from, so I'll let

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01:57:55,400 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 2: him know. Paul says, hi when I see him. I

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01:57:58,280 --> 01:58:00,720
Speaker 2: have some friends who are Bears commanders and Broncos fans,

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01:58:00,760 --> 01:58:02,360
Speaker 2: and we were talking about which team is in a

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01:58:02,440 --> 01:58:05,600
Speaker 2: better place right now. Bears and Pats have the QB advantage.

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01:58:05,600 --> 01:58:08,360
Speaker 2: Broncos have the better roster. Commanders are going to have

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01:58:08,440 --> 01:58:11,680
Speaker 2: a good, good picks and their QB coming back. Interested

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01:58:11,760 --> 01:58:13,600
Speaker 2: to hear where you would rank these teams for twenty

2618
01:58:13,680 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 2: twenty six and beyond it. So it goes like this,

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01:58:16,040 --> 01:58:19,200
Speaker 2: it's Patriots, Bears, Broncos commanders. That's the order.

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01:58:19,560 --> 01:58:21,400
Speaker 1: Patriots, Bears, Broncos commanders.

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01:58:21,880 --> 01:58:24,160
Speaker 3: Patriots number one, the best quarterback.

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01:58:24,400 --> 01:58:25,880
Speaker 1: I'm just going to take the Patriots out of it

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01:58:25,960 --> 01:58:27,680
Speaker 1: for the purpose of these conversations. But I mean, I

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01:58:27,800 --> 01:58:30,880
Speaker 1: just I think that Chicago is a ton of talent.

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01:58:31,000 --> 01:58:33,160
Speaker 1: I just continue to wonder, like if it starts to

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01:58:33,200 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: go a little sid those guys are just weird. The

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01:58:34,640 --> 01:58:36,480
Speaker 1: head coach is a little weird to me. The quarterback's

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01:58:36,480 --> 01:58:37,160
Speaker 1: a little weird to me.

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01:58:37,280 --> 01:58:39,160
Speaker 3: Talk about that he's a little weird.

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01:58:39,840 --> 01:58:41,440
Speaker 1: Which is fine. I mean, he's doing a great job

2631
01:58:41,480 --> 01:58:43,280
Speaker 1: getting his team to play, but like, you just wonder

2632
01:58:43,360 --> 01:58:45,560
Speaker 1: when things start to go a little sideways, that we're

2633
01:58:45,560 --> 01:58:47,160
Speaker 1: going to keep the train on the rails. But they're

2634
01:58:47,200 --> 01:58:50,120
Speaker 1: really talented and Baltimore, it's just I mean, I'm sorry Denver,

2635
01:58:50,440 --> 01:58:53,080
Speaker 1: big fanish on, you know Peyton, and I know bo

2636
01:58:53,240 --> 01:58:54,760
Speaker 1: Nix is what he is. But I still think they

2637
01:58:54,840 --> 01:58:56,640
Speaker 1: got a great defense. They're always going to be playing

2638
01:58:56,680 --> 01:58:57,240
Speaker 1: in Denver.

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01:58:57,880 --> 01:58:58,480
Speaker 3: Well every week.

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01:58:58,520 --> 01:59:01,200
Speaker 1: They're a tough team. Washington, I'm kind of like, I

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01:59:01,240 --> 01:59:03,000
Speaker 1: don't know, because now you're getting away from that free

2642
01:59:03,040 --> 01:59:05,600
Speaker 1: agency class of two years ago, what kind of work

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01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:07,800
Speaker 1: are they going to do this year? Is McLaurin still

2644
01:59:07,840 --> 01:59:11,560
Speaker 1: going to be McLaurin, You know, Debo? I mean, like

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01:59:11,720 --> 01:59:13,880
Speaker 1: there they got a reload I think so I put

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01:59:13,920 --> 01:59:14,480
Speaker 1: them at the bottom.

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01:59:15,840 --> 01:59:19,840
Speaker 2: Logan from Myrtle Beach writes in complaining about the non

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01:59:20,200 --> 01:59:23,800
Speaker 2: pass interference call, but his email just kind of reminded

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01:59:23,840 --> 01:59:28,040
Speaker 2: me of something. Would Booty have hit his head that

2650
01:59:28,280 --> 01:59:30,240
Speaker 2: hard on the ground had he not been pulled down?

2651
01:59:30,600 --> 01:59:34,680
Speaker 2: Because you're right, so now you know, you come down

2652
01:59:34,720 --> 01:59:37,400
Speaker 2: with a certain amount of knowledge about how I'm going

2653
01:59:37,480 --> 01:59:38,880
Speaker 2: to fall, but all of a sudden you have this

2654
01:59:39,080 --> 01:59:44,040
Speaker 2: extra put and now there's something you didn't plan for.

2655
01:59:44,960 --> 01:59:47,640
Speaker 2: So that's another reason to be upset about that call,

2656
01:59:47,920 --> 01:59:52,040
Speaker 2: is because he might have been sidelined because of itely.

2657
01:59:52,080 --> 01:59:54,120
Speaker 2: Not that the call would have helped his head, but

2658
01:59:54,560 --> 01:59:57,680
Speaker 2: the fact is it was passing afference and him hitting

2659
01:59:57,720 --> 01:59:58,800
Speaker 2: the head almost.

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01:59:58,600 --> 01:59:59,440
Speaker 3: Proved that it was.

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02:00:00,240 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 1: One last point I'll make on that though, and I

2662
02:00:01,640 --> 02:00:03,240
Speaker 1: think you guys probably talked about it. We just we

2663
02:00:03,320 --> 02:00:06,120
Speaker 1: gave the team credit for not letting that get caught

2664
02:00:06,200 --> 02:00:09,360
Speaker 1: up in that call and continuing to stay the course.

2665
02:00:09,520 --> 02:00:11,680
Speaker 1: Unlike going down and getting the touchdown. A lot of

2666
02:00:11,760 --> 02:00:13,360
Speaker 1: us probably would have been throwing a hissy fit.

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02:00:13,800 --> 02:00:17,040
Speaker 3: But a lot of people in the press bote.

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02:00:16,680 --> 02:00:19,360
Speaker 2: Oh, I yeah, you know, we're not supposed to say anything,

2669
02:00:19,440 --> 02:00:22,320
Speaker 2: and I I did. I think I said that's ridiculous.

2670
02:00:22,440 --> 02:00:23,320
Speaker 2: I said that out loud.

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02:00:23,360 --> 02:00:23,440
Speaker 5: Now.

2672
02:00:23,840 --> 02:00:26,280
Speaker 3: The only thing I think I said the entire game

2673
02:00:26,320 --> 02:00:28,640
Speaker 3: and we have to go is that when Chase on

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02:00:28,800 --> 02:00:31,280
Speaker 3: stripped him, I can't help the ball like I just

2675
02:00:31,400 --> 02:00:35,040
Speaker 3: like again, I can't help it like it's not It's

2676
02:00:35,160 --> 02:00:37,920
Speaker 3: ingrained in no matter, no matter what team it is,

2677
02:00:38,400 --> 02:00:41,200
Speaker 3: not just the Patriots, like it just is automatic.

2678
02:00:41,240 --> 02:00:43,280
Speaker 5: When you see the ball, get on it.

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02:00:44,760 --> 02:00:47,640
Speaker 2: Well, whenever there's a fumble, Evan stands up in points.

2680
02:00:47,720 --> 02:00:52,000
Speaker 2: You know our ball ball. All right, that's going to

2681
02:00:52,040 --> 02:00:55,240
Speaker 2: be it for this edition of Patriots Unfiltered. I thought,

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02:00:55,320 --> 02:00:58,840
Speaker 2: I hope Eldred is doing okay in this doctor's appointment. Yeah,

2683
02:00:58,840 --> 02:01:02,200
Speaker 2: I could look. I hope we didn't interrupt anything. And

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02:01:02,320 --> 02:01:06,120
Speaker 2: if you want to go listen to Paul, he's on

2685
02:01:06,240 --> 02:01:08,960
Speaker 2: one of his shows. I think everyone should call in

2686
02:01:09,120 --> 02:01:11,240
Speaker 2: that listens to this show and complain that he left

2687
02:01:11,360 --> 02:01:13,640
Speaker 2: the show early. I think everyone should do that. That

2688
02:01:13,680 --> 02:01:16,800
Speaker 2: would be fun. All Right, we'll see you tomorrow and

2689
02:01:17,040 --> 02:01:20,560
Speaker 2: catch twenty two tomorrow at ten o'clock on special Christmas

2690
02:01:20,600 --> 02:01:26,320
Speaker 2: Eve edition. Okay, yeah, all right, hey.

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02:01:26,280 --> 02:01:28,360
Speaker 3: This is Alex. Thanks for tuning into the show. If

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02:01:28,360 --> 02:01:30,400
Speaker 3: you really want to help us, make sure you like us.

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02:01:30,320 --> 02:01:33,520
Speaker 14: On Apple Podcasts, Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts.

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02:01:33,960 --> 02:01:35,360
Speaker 3: Also, make sure you follow.

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02:01:35,240 --> 02:01:37,400
Speaker 16: Us on the New England Patriots YouTube channel to see

2696
02:01:37,440 --> 02:01:40,040
Speaker 16: this show and everything else we do here at the Patriots.

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Speaker 5: That's a lot