1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:07,720 Speaker 1: When the schedule was released, what were your thoughts they 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,240 Speaker 1: considering your background the Jets opening up Monday night football 3 00:00:11,560 --> 00:00:12,480 Speaker 1: against the forty. 4 00:00:12,320 --> 00:00:13,280 Speaker 2: Nine ers, I love it. 5 00:00:13,400 --> 00:00:17,040 Speaker 3: You know, what a great opportunity to play one of 6 00:00:17,079 --> 00:00:19,919 Speaker 3: the best, if not the best team in football right now, 7 00:00:20,520 --> 00:00:23,079 Speaker 3: one of the historic franchises and then obviously one that 8 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:26,599 Speaker 3: I played at for ten years and I was raised 9 00:00:26,600 --> 00:00:29,880 Speaker 3: in that area, so it was a lifelong forty nine 10 00:00:29,920 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 3: fan as well. 11 00:00:31,440 --> 00:00:32,599 Speaker 2: Could not be more excited. 12 00:00:32,720 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 3: You know, to be the best, you want to play 13 00:00:34,600 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 3: the best, you want to beat the best, and what 14 00:00:36,920 --> 00:00:38,000 Speaker 3: a great test early on. 15 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:40,839 Speaker 1: So when you think about your career in San Francisco, 16 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:41,800 Speaker 1: what stands out. 17 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 3: Oh, just the teammates more than anything. You know, just 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:49,360 Speaker 3: had an amazing group of teammates and friends and created 19 00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:53,920 Speaker 3: lifelong relationships there. And also to be part of such 20 00:00:53,920 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 3: a historic franchise was it was a great honor. You know, 21 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 3: when you walk in that building every day, there's five 22 00:01:00,120 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: Super Bowl trophies that wait for you and and there's 23 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:06,880 Speaker 3: a high level expectation, and that's a great thing when 24 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,000 Speaker 3: you when you play there, and something we're trying to 25 00:01:10,000 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 3: build here. 26 00:01:11,319 --> 00:01:13,400 Speaker 1: You've always downplayed it, but give me a scout and 27 00:01:13,440 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: report on what Brick was like as a player after 28 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:17,559 Speaker 1: in the league and then in the back half. 29 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 3: Yeah, I was a two d and fifty pound first 30 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 3: and second down linebacker, decent physicality, decent instinct. Was willing 31 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,199 Speaker 3: to play hard and prepare harder than most, I think, 32 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,000 Speaker 3: And it was funny as my as my my journey 33 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,360 Speaker 3: transitioned later in my career. We drafted Patrick Willis towards 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:40,400 Speaker 3: the back end of my career, so I went from 35 00:01:40,440 --> 00:01:42,560 Speaker 3: this big first and second down linebacker to a guy 36 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,880 Speaker 3: that was had to play special teams. And to play 37 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,000 Speaker 3: special teams, I needed to lose a bunch of weight, 38 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 3: you know, so I could just run. And plus I 39 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 3: was older at that time, and you don't get faster 40 00:01:52,000 --> 00:01:56,120 Speaker 3: with age, I found, you know, And you know, so 41 00:01:56,160 --> 00:01:58,280 Speaker 3: I became a special team player and more of like 42 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 3: a third down coverage linebacker at the end of my career. 43 00:02:00,840 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 2: So it was. 44 00:02:02,080 --> 00:02:04,200 Speaker 3: Interesting that I got to do a little bit of 45 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 3: all of it and really fortunate for that, you know, 46 00:02:07,960 --> 00:02:11,440 Speaker 3: and really gained an appreciation for not only. 47 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:12,680 Speaker 2: Defense, but special teams. 48 00:02:12,680 --> 00:02:15,960 Speaker 3: And I think sometimes guys don't always gain that same 49 00:02:16,000 --> 00:02:18,160 Speaker 3: appreciation unless they've really played it. 50 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:19,919 Speaker 1: What the funds of systems were you planning? 51 00:02:20,560 --> 00:02:21,080 Speaker 2: Shoot? 52 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 3: I started with Jim Mora, which was kind of the 53 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:26,959 Speaker 3: classic forty nine or system back with even the Bill 54 00:02:27,000 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 3: Walsh days. 55 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 2: It was a playbook that had been there a long time. 56 00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 3: I remember the first time I got there and they 57 00:02:32,400 --> 00:02:36,000 Speaker 3: had me the playbook and no exaggeration, the playbook was 58 00:02:36,200 --> 00:02:39,200 Speaker 3: that big and there was a million adjustments. And you 59 00:02:39,440 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 3: can only imagine over the course of twenty years how 60 00:02:41,960 --> 00:02:44,840 Speaker 3: many things had been built in that now many. There 61 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,720 Speaker 3: were so many reasons why there were so many checks, 62 00:02:46,720 --> 00:02:48,400 Speaker 3: and when you played in it, you knew that. And 63 00:02:48,880 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 3: I remember my first mini camp out there and I 64 00:02:51,600 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 3: was backing up Ken Norton Junior. He was the starter 65 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:58,240 Speaker 3: at linebacker, and I remember, first of all, like there's 66 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,160 Speaker 3: all this communication to start with, and then there is 67 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,200 Speaker 3: the emotion and there's seventeen more communications and I'm and 68 00:03:03,240 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 3: I'm looking around like I. 69 00:03:05,240 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: Got to do that. 70 00:03:06,880 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 3: I'm remember to call my wife after one of our 71 00:03:08,960 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 3: first practices, like this, this, uh, this journey is going 72 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 3: to be a short one, I think for real, Yeah 73 00:03:14,200 --> 00:03:14,560 Speaker 3: I did. 74 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: I did. But then, as with anything. 75 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 3: You work hard at it and you really, uh you 76 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:22,040 Speaker 3: grind and you and you study, and you and you 77 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:23,880 Speaker 3: put the time in and things start to slow down. 78 00:03:23,919 --> 00:03:25,800 Speaker 3: It becomes, you know, the game that you always loved. 79 00:03:26,520 --> 00:03:29,800 Speaker 1: Do you think Jeff Albrick two hundred and fifty pounds 80 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,280 Speaker 1: first and second down specialty could be playing it Today's. 81 00:03:34,040 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: Oh absolutely not, no way. The game has gotten so 82 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:41,800 Speaker 3: wide open. There's just something I want. 83 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: To talk to you about as far as how what 84 00:03:44,400 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 1: you grew up in from a philosophical standpoint and now 85 00:03:48,360 --> 00:03:50,840 Speaker 1: where we are today and how that has had an 86 00:03:50,880 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 1: impact on your coachure. 87 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,320 Speaker 3: Oh yeah, this this, uh, the league has evolved in 88 00:03:54,360 --> 00:03:57,880 Speaker 3: so many ways. The biggest part of that evolution is 89 00:03:58,000 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 3: the fact that this game has become wide open, and 90 00:04:00,360 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 3: it's so based upon speed and creating space, and from 91 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 3: a defensive perspective, you need guys that can play within 92 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,040 Speaker 3: that space, which takes a lot of speed, a lot 93 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 3: of range, a lot of athleticism, which was not the 94 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: it was not my forte to say the least. But yeah, 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:22,480 Speaker 3: it's changed a lot in that way, and it's reflected 96 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 3: in the players that we have. We have a lot 97 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,520 Speaker 3: of really good, cool athletes, you know, and you've also 98 00:04:29,560 --> 00:04:31,359 Speaker 3: seen I think especially the guys on the second and 99 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:35,240 Speaker 3: third level linebackers, safeties, corners from a defensive perspective, gotten 100 00:04:35,560 --> 00:04:37,240 Speaker 3: smaller in a lot of ways too, you know, so 101 00:04:37,279 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 3: they could be faster and more athletic. 102 00:04:40,040 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: Throughout your coaching career in the National Football League coaching 103 00:04:42,880 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 1: college as well, we know that how has that even 104 00:04:48,600 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: changed as well, not just from your playing career back 105 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: with the Niners in the early two thousands, but maybe 106 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: from your days in Atlanta. 107 00:04:56,839 --> 00:05:00,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it was interesting the fact that I got 108 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:03,159 Speaker 3: to go to college very early on in my coaching career. 109 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 3: I think it really helped me because college always is 110 00:05:07,080 --> 00:05:09,080 Speaker 3: kind of a preview of where the NFL is going, 111 00:05:09,320 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 3: you know, and to be at UCLA those three years 112 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,120 Speaker 3: and really to see that brand of football that was 113 00:05:15,920 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 3: it was all four open, five open, you know, these 114 00:05:19,360 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 3: big open sets where they create a lot of space 115 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 3: and there's obviously a huge emphasis in the passing game 116 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,280 Speaker 3: and maybe a little bit less emphasis in the run game. 117 00:05:27,839 --> 00:05:30,560 Speaker 3: It really gave me a preview into what I was 118 00:05:30,560 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 3: about to face coming back into the NFL and as 119 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:38,240 Speaker 3: this game evolves into something similar to that. So definitely 120 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 3: help from that that that perspective. 121 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 1: How much is this defense predicated on we do what 122 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: we do as opposed to Okay, you're gonna line up, 123 00:05:51,000 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: we're making adjustments off the way you're coming at us schematically. 124 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:56,960 Speaker 3: I would I would say the foundation of who we 125 00:05:57,000 --> 00:05:59,400 Speaker 3: are is we're going to do what we do. We 126 00:05:59,560 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 3: take great pride in the fact that we got a 127 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 3: great coaching staff that really instills technique and based fundamentals 128 00:06:07,400 --> 00:06:09,560 Speaker 3: and principles that we can lean on and that we 129 00:06:09,640 --> 00:06:13,560 Speaker 3: can really rely on to play the brand of defense 130 00:06:13,600 --> 00:06:17,360 Speaker 3: we want to play. The beauty of that is when 131 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 3: I get to address the group, I'm not sitting there 132 00:06:19,560 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 3: talking about seventeen thousand different schematic things. I'm talking about finish, 133 00:06:23,839 --> 00:06:26,400 Speaker 3: I'm talking about toughness, I'm talking about technique. I'm talking about, 134 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,919 Speaker 3: to me, the real essence of football, you know. And 135 00:06:28,960 --> 00:06:31,520 Speaker 3: I think that that's what makes us a little different 136 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:34,039 Speaker 3: than most. But at the same time, I'd say that 137 00:06:34,760 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 3: we're not so stubborn as coaches that we don't provide 138 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:40,919 Speaker 3: a few wrinkles here and there to keep the offense 139 00:06:40,960 --> 00:06:42,960 Speaker 3: off balance, you know. And I think that we've really 140 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:46,680 Speaker 3: pushed ourselves this offseason to grow from a schematic standpoint, 141 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 3: so we'll never lose our essence, and that's being based 142 00:06:50,360 --> 00:06:55,160 Speaker 3: in great technique, great strain, great finish, great toughness, great violence. 143 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 2: Will never lose that. 144 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: But at the same time, I think our guys have 145 00:07:00,040 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 3: really gotten to the point because there is a level 146 00:07:02,760 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 3: of mastery that's been gained at this point, being that 147 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,160 Speaker 3: it's the fourth year within the system, that we can 148 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 3: challenge a little bit more from a schematic standpoint without 149 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:11,480 Speaker 3: compromising the other stuff. 150 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: How has that playbook changed the one that you've got 151 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 1: in two thousand now, a playbook that you give a rookie. 152 00:07:18,360 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 3: Right before it's first of all, it's digital. There is 153 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:27,920 Speaker 3: no more paper, it's just it at least ours, and 154 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 3: this is not necessarily a reflection of the entire league. 155 00:07:30,880 --> 00:07:35,040 Speaker 3: It's definitely smaller, you know. And I think what we've 156 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:37,600 Speaker 3: done a better job here than most places that I've 157 00:07:37,640 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 3: been is especially for the younger guys, you know, speaking 158 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,640 Speaker 3: on that, when we hand them that playbook, we make 159 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 3: sure it's very simple from the beginning. We want to 160 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:48,320 Speaker 3: give these guys a great opportunity to really demonstrate who 161 00:07:48,360 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 3: they are as players, as humans, as teammates, and sometimes 162 00:07:52,360 --> 00:07:54,480 Speaker 3: when you bog them down with a ton you know, 163 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 3: especially from a schematic standpoint, you lose the essence of 164 00:07:57,760 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 3: who these players really are and you don't gain a 165 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:03,280 Speaker 3: true evaluation of them. So I think we do a 166 00:08:03,280 --> 00:08:05,960 Speaker 3: better job of you know, that first iPad that we 167 00:08:06,040 --> 00:08:08,560 Speaker 3: give them. It's it's very it's very small as far 168 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:09,760 Speaker 3: as what we're asking them to learn. 169 00:08:10,120 --> 00:08:13,240 Speaker 1: But the continuity here you mentioned going into year four 170 00:08:13,280 --> 00:08:17,160 Speaker 1: in the defense, I think you guys are so player 171 00:08:17,240 --> 00:08:20,560 Speaker 1: centric that you're about giving these guys credit for what 172 00:08:20,600 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: happens on the field, where you don't give yourself enough credit. 173 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 1: That's not the way you go about your business. That's 174 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:30,520 Speaker 1: not your personality. But like, there's some things that we 175 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: have done in here telestration wise, what Bart's got breaking 176 00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:39,840 Speaker 1: down coverages and the pass offs between the defenders where 177 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,280 Speaker 1: everybody's got to be on a string, and you guys 178 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:45,400 Speaker 1: have just got it down to a team. 179 00:08:45,440 --> 00:08:45,520 Speaker 2: Now. 180 00:08:45,920 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, that is the essence of having success in the 181 00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,560 Speaker 3: in the NFL, in my opinion, is continuity. And it's 182 00:08:53,720 --> 00:08:56,400 Speaker 3: unfortunate that a lot of organizations they don't understand that, 183 00:08:56,480 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 3: you know, like to play championship level football, it takes 184 00:09:01,400 --> 00:09:04,000 Speaker 3: great players, number one, and it will never be any 185 00:09:04,040 --> 00:09:06,640 Speaker 3: different than that great players. 186 00:09:06,240 --> 00:09:06,800 Speaker 2: And then. 187 00:09:08,160 --> 00:09:10,960 Speaker 3: On top of that, you need these great players to 188 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 3: hear the same things over and over and over again 189 00:09:15,240 --> 00:09:17,240 Speaker 3: to the point where it becomes just part of their DNA, 190 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 3: and unconscious competence kicks in and guys are just reacting. 191 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:26,000 Speaker 3: They're not thinking anymore. And we're starting to flirt with 192 00:09:26,040 --> 00:09:29,000 Speaker 3: that now in year four with this with this group. 193 00:09:29,120 --> 00:09:32,800 Speaker 3: So it's a it's exciting. We've come a long way, 194 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: but we still got a long way to go, and 195 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 3: we've got the players that are that are capable of 196 00:09:37,640 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 3: taking us to a whole nother space. 197 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 1: Personal personnel is completely different. But go back to your 198 00:09:43,480 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 1: days and Seattle Repete. I think people saw the evolution 199 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:52,720 Speaker 1: there with the Seahawks and said, well, they're Cover three, 200 00:09:52,920 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 1: they're lining up, that's. 201 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: What they're going to do in the back end. 202 00:09:55,880 --> 00:09:59,199 Speaker 1: Can you talk about how you guys approach it in 203 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 1: the back end compared to maybe what a version of 204 00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 1: this defense wash it when it's started. 205 00:10:06,280 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: Right, But so yeah, Pete started with the cover three 206 00:10:10,440 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 3: and that was what we ran there, and it was 207 00:10:15,040 --> 00:10:17,200 Speaker 3: for all intensive purposes all we ran there, you know, 208 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: and and it was the belief system was we're going 209 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:25,640 Speaker 3: to give these guys great fundamentals, tools, techniques, and we're 210 00:10:25,679 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: going to let them make the playbook come to life. 211 00:10:29,240 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 3: We're going to really just get out of their way. 212 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,360 Speaker 3: And that has not changed here at all. What we 213 00:10:35,440 --> 00:10:40,960 Speaker 3: play is is much different. But the essence of giving 214 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: these players, these really good players, that we have the 215 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:45,600 Speaker 3: tools necessary to be successful in getting out of their way, 216 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:46,520 Speaker 3: that has not changed. 217 00:10:47,040 --> 00:10:50,680 Speaker 1: One thing that Robert has always stressed to me is that, hey, 218 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: if you are defensive back, you got to win and 219 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 1: mann situations on third down. Can you elaborate on that. 220 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 3: Yeah, So at the end of the day, like first 221 00:10:59,120 --> 00:11:02,400 Speaker 3: down is important, second's important, We get that. And you 222 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 3: don't play good ball on those the early downs, you're 223 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 3: not going to play good overall defense. But when it's 224 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:10,280 Speaker 3: all said and done, you're going to get them to 225 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:12,160 Speaker 3: third and two to six more times than not. 226 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:12,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 227 00:11:12,920 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: That's that's where this game is won. It's where this 228 00:11:15,160 --> 00:11:18,880 Speaker 3: game is lost. And in those moments, yeah, you can 229 00:11:18,920 --> 00:11:21,640 Speaker 3: throw curve balls and throw a zone in here or there, 230 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 3: but it's going to come down to your ability to 231 00:11:25,160 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 3: win the one on one matchup period and third and 232 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:31,960 Speaker 3: two to six when it's for all the marbles. 233 00:11:32,040 --> 00:11:33,120 Speaker 2: They know we're playing man. 234 00:11:33,240 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 3: We know we're playing man who can win, and to 235 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,000 Speaker 3: do that in those situations, you better have the right 236 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,080 Speaker 3: human beings. You better have the right guys that are 237 00:11:41,080 --> 00:11:42,559 Speaker 3: capable of getting that accomplished. 238 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: And we have that here percentage wise. I don't have 239 00:11:45,600 --> 00:11:48,079 Speaker 1: the numbers in front of me. I know you probably 240 00:11:48,160 --> 00:11:50,320 Speaker 1: have them at the top of your head. More Man 241 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 1: than twenty three, a lot more Man in twenty three 242 00:11:52,920 --> 00:11:55,520 Speaker 1: than twenty one. Yeah, when this thing was started. 243 00:11:55,600 --> 00:11:57,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, yeah, yeah, I'd agree with that. 244 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,840 Speaker 3: I think we've provided a few more wrinkles that we 245 00:12:02,880 --> 00:12:05,000 Speaker 3: had than twenty one, which is just I think that's 246 00:12:05,040 --> 00:12:09,000 Speaker 3: the nature of you know, have been continuity. But yeah, 247 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 3: like our ability to play Man in those windows has 248 00:12:12,920 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 3: definitely gone up because of the human beings that we have. 249 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: We have, in my opinion, the best trio of corners, 250 00:12:20,720 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 3: you know, with Michael Carter and DJ Reid and Sauce 251 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,480 Speaker 3: obviously like those three I'll put against anybody in this league. 252 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 3: And then we have a guy and Tony Adams that 253 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:32,839 Speaker 3: when he's got a play man to man, has a 254 00:12:33,360 --> 00:12:36,680 Speaker 3: has a corner skill set, you know, so great confidence 255 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,320 Speaker 3: is hit in his ability to do it as well. 256 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:41,680 Speaker 3: So in those winning moments, those are the guys that 257 00:12:41,720 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 3: we lean on, and those are the guys that they 258 00:12:43,600 --> 00:12:45,400 Speaker 3: win more than they lose, and those are the guys 259 00:12:45,400 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 3: that are gonna help us become a championship level defense 260 00:12:47,559 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: this year. 261 00:12:48,000 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: You can make the argument that Sauce Garner is the 262 00:12:50,360 --> 00:12:53,440 Speaker 1: best cornerback in the National Football League after two years. 263 00:12:54,679 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 1: Robert has discussed or described him as being a weapon, 264 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,320 Speaker 1: that he is a defensive weapon. Can you speak to 265 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:07,880 Speaker 1: hey potentially him traveling more in twenty four because Roberts said, 266 00:13:07,960 --> 00:13:09,920 Speaker 1: you guys have done that in the past, and you've 267 00:13:09,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: talked about it as well, but maybe we could see 268 00:13:13,160 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: it more this year. But you have that luxury because 269 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: you do have these other guys you have a lot 270 00:13:19,800 --> 00:13:21,120 Speaker 1: of confidence in starting. 271 00:13:20,840 --> 00:13:22,000 Speaker 2: With DJ Absolutely. 272 00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:24,760 Speaker 3: Yeah, Like had we not had DJ Reid, we didn't 273 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,960 Speaker 3: have Michael Carter, even Brandon Echles and and Stickers, the 274 00:13:29,000 --> 00:13:32,080 Speaker 3: young guys and all the guys that we got, which 275 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:34,480 Speaker 3: we have great confidence in all of them. You know, 276 00:13:35,840 --> 00:13:41,000 Speaker 3: Sauce has some he has some very unique qualities. You know, 277 00:13:41,200 --> 00:13:44,560 Speaker 3: he's he's a guy that's obviously he's super long, and 278 00:13:44,559 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 3: he's big, and he's bigger than most corners, but his 279 00:13:47,520 --> 00:13:50,840 Speaker 3: transitions is for quickness. His speed is just so unique 280 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:53,440 Speaker 3: for a guy so high cut and long legged. It 281 00:13:53,480 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 3: doesn't make like physical sense to me most of the 282 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: time when I really watch him, especially the line of 283 00:13:57,400 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 3: scrimmage stuff and matching guys in and out of breaks. 284 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 3: The matching stuff. It's a powerful tool, and it's, like 285 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 3: you said, we've utilized it, you know, that we need 286 00:14:09,000 --> 00:14:11,360 Speaker 3: to utilize, in my opinion, a little bit more, you know, 287 00:14:11,480 --> 00:14:14,520 Speaker 3: just from the standpoint of like I think him and 288 00:14:14,600 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 3: DJ are very comfortable corners, both excellent, both world class 289 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,560 Speaker 3: and what they do. The thing with Sauce is he's 290 00:14:21,600 --> 00:14:25,280 Speaker 3: also got a little bit of a reputation too across 291 00:14:25,280 --> 00:14:28,440 Speaker 3: the league, and I really believe that that gets into 292 00:14:28,480 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 3: quarterbacks minds at times, you know. So, no doubt, matching 293 00:14:31,960 --> 00:14:36,040 Speaker 3: is as much about eliminating a great player on offense 294 00:14:36,520 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 3: as it is steering the ball somewhere else where you 295 00:14:39,480 --> 00:14:44,160 Speaker 3: want it, you know. So the beauty of our situation is, Okay, 296 00:14:44,200 --> 00:14:48,120 Speaker 3: we'll match Sauce at times on their guy, and we'll 297 00:14:48,120 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 3: steer the ball exactly where we want it. We want 298 00:14:50,400 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 3: them to throw the DJ. We want to throw them 299 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:54,240 Speaker 3: to Michael Carter. We want them to throw to Tony Adams, 300 00:14:54,240 --> 00:14:57,440 Speaker 3: and we have great confidence and belief that look at 301 00:14:57,440 --> 00:14:58,000 Speaker 3: the job done. 302 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting over the years, isn't it how people have 303 00:15:01,320 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: viewed the cornerback position, because I was afforded the opportunity 304 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,600 Speaker 1: to cover Revis when he was here, and you always 305 00:15:08,600 --> 00:15:11,840 Speaker 1: had the option of, yeah, you can stick Revis on Megatron, 306 00:15:12,120 --> 00:15:14,560 Speaker 1: or you can put him on the second receiver and 307 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:15,840 Speaker 1: you can double Megatron. 308 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,480 Speaker 3: Absolutely, yeah, yeah, I think you always have that option, 309 00:15:18,640 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 3: you know, like, and there's I think there's value to 310 00:15:21,920 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 3: both of those mindsets. And I think at the end 311 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 3: of the day, they always never boxes. You got to 312 00:15:26,360 --> 00:15:28,080 Speaker 3: check and you got to make sure that at times 313 00:15:28,080 --> 00:15:30,280 Speaker 3: you're doing that, but at times you're putting your best 314 00:15:30,320 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 3: on their best. 315 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:34,560 Speaker 1: What do you sense differently from Sauce here heading into 316 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:36,480 Speaker 1: year three? I can't even believe we're saying that he's 317 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: head into year three. I knew you were high on him, 318 00:15:40,520 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 1: but did you think he'd be to this level at 319 00:15:43,280 --> 00:15:44,480 Speaker 1: this point so early? 320 00:15:44,840 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 3: I don't think anybody can ever really say that, you know, 321 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 3: I think we can all hope and we definitely were 322 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 3: super excited about the potential that we saw on him. 323 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 3: But to say that he was going to become an 324 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 3: all pro immediately and have such success so early on, 325 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:04,280 Speaker 3: I think it's it's just it's so rare, and it's 326 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:06,880 Speaker 3: it's a testament to the not just the player and 327 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 3: the athlete. 328 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:09,000 Speaker 2: That he is, but the human that he is. 329 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: Like he he is grounded in this mindset that the 330 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:16,040 Speaker 3: only way I get better is working and and and 331 00:16:17,720 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 3: putting a time that's necessary. And he's committed to that, 332 00:16:20,440 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 3: and that's the reason he's had the success. Aside from 333 00:16:23,600 --> 00:16:26,080 Speaker 3: his physical talent, aside from all the stuff that God 334 00:16:26,080 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 3: has given him, he puts the work in. This year, 335 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 3: I've really felt a concerted effort to to be the 336 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 3: leader that he's becoming. Like I've heard his voice way 337 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 3: more vocal on and off the field in the meeting rooms. 338 00:16:40,560 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 3: I mean there is there was a unit meeting a 339 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,320 Speaker 3: couple of weeks ago where like he for all intensive point, 340 00:16:47,360 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 3: he took the meeting over, you know, and and had 341 00:16:49,880 --> 00:16:53,480 Speaker 3: a lot of feedback and and he was creating dialogue 342 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,960 Speaker 3: with the safeties, creating dialogues with the other corners, creating 343 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:59,840 Speaker 3: dialogue with the with the linebackers, and it's one of 344 00:16:59,880 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 3: the was like just really proud moments as a coach, 345 00:17:03,920 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 3: because you know, as we all know, the best defenses 346 00:17:06,800 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: are our player run, they really are. Those are the 347 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:10,359 Speaker 3: guys across the white line. Those are the guys in 348 00:17:10,400 --> 00:17:13,480 Speaker 3: critical moments that got to win. And he's starting to 349 00:17:13,520 --> 00:17:16,240 Speaker 3: emerge as that leader that's necessary for great defense. 350 00:17:16,320 --> 00:17:18,159 Speaker 1: That's such a cool group. Like you said, you'll take 351 00:17:18,240 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: him against anybody. And then Tony Odin heading up the cornerbacks. 352 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:27,280 Speaker 1: He such a quality coach in person. Let's talk about 353 00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 1: safety position. Robert has stressed competition there. Chuck Clark. We 354 00:17:33,280 --> 00:17:36,480 Speaker 1: didn't have the opportunity to see him last year. What's 355 00:17:36,520 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 1: it been like just having him back on the field 356 00:17:39,080 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: during OTAs. 357 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:41,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been awesome. 358 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 3: A guy that's obviously got a ton of experience, played 359 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:48,200 Speaker 3: high level football in this league. I just it broke 360 00:17:48,240 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 3: my heart last year, not just for us because obviously 361 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 3: we were relying on him and we all thought he'd 362 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:57,040 Speaker 3: played a big role in our defense, but for the 363 00:17:57,560 --> 00:17:59,439 Speaker 3: leader and the man that he is. He just stands 364 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:02,520 Speaker 3: for everything that that we covered in this building. Toughness 365 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:06,200 Speaker 3: and love for this game and to be a great teammate, 366 00:18:06,240 --> 00:18:09,440 Speaker 3: to be accountable, reliable's he's all of that, and he's 367 00:18:09,480 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 3: got a level of maturity to him that's just so unique. 368 00:18:13,119 --> 00:18:16,680 Speaker 3: Last year, he tears his acl and heartbreaking for himself. 369 00:18:17,119 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 3: Most guys in those situations they go home, they spend 370 00:18:19,960 --> 00:18:22,720 Speaker 3: time with their family, they rehabit at a local place 371 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:28,000 Speaker 3: near their family. Chuck, other than a few weeks here 372 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:30,800 Speaker 3: or there, he stayed with us the entire season, which 373 00:18:30,840 --> 00:18:33,400 Speaker 3: is so rare in this business. Stayed with us because 374 00:18:34,520 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 3: although he had never played a game with us, he'd 375 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,040 Speaker 3: built this such strong connection with the players on our 376 00:18:40,080 --> 00:18:43,280 Speaker 3: defense and especially within that secondary, especially within that safety room, 377 00:18:43,760 --> 00:18:46,240 Speaker 3: and just wanted to be a part of it, wanted 378 00:18:46,280 --> 00:18:49,840 Speaker 3: to be around it, and also had great respect and 379 00:18:49,880 --> 00:18:52,240 Speaker 3: trust in our training staff and our in our in 380 00:18:52,280 --> 00:18:55,359 Speaker 3: our weight room guys that that he this was the 381 00:18:55,400 --> 00:18:57,879 Speaker 3: best place that he could be to get better and 382 00:18:58,000 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 3: become the player that we all know that he can be. 383 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 3: So I'm just so excited for him to be with 384 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:06,399 Speaker 3: us this year. And there's a lot of competition in 385 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: that room, and you know, we'll see who the two 386 00:19:10,240 --> 00:19:12,920 Speaker 3: that emerged, But regardless of who emerges as the two starters, 387 00:19:12,920 --> 00:19:14,960 Speaker 3: they're all have a significant role in our defense. 388 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:20,800 Speaker 1: You mentioned as athleticism, and what impressed me last year 389 00:19:21,320 --> 00:19:24,640 Speaker 1: in the summer was that he just played with the spark. 390 00:19:24,960 --> 00:19:28,159 Speaker 1: He had this this there's this energy about him. We 391 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: saw him progress last year on the field. What's his 392 00:19:32,560 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 1: next step? 393 00:19:34,440 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's not to be discounted. And I probably shouldn't 394 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,439 Speaker 3: have mentioned that first and foremost, that he is the 395 00:19:39,520 --> 00:19:42,600 Speaker 3: ultimate energy giver that I've ever been around. Like really, oh, 396 00:19:42,680 --> 00:19:45,399 Speaker 3: he's just his love for this game, his love for 397 00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:47,240 Speaker 3: his teammates, it's just infectious. 398 00:19:47,440 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 2: It's every day. He never turns it off. 399 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 3: The edge he plays with, you know, the stuff he 400 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,680 Speaker 3: says to the offense on a daily basis, it's very entertaining. 401 00:19:57,800 --> 00:20:00,760 Speaker 3: You know, Like if you don't get juiced up, and 402 00:20:00,760 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: if you don't get excited about football when you're around him, 403 00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:04,440 Speaker 3: then then you don't belong in this game. 404 00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:05,120 Speaker 2: You really don't. 405 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:08,239 Speaker 3: And for him, it's just more time on task. The 406 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:10,320 Speaker 3: more he does this, because he works so hard at it, 407 00:20:10,520 --> 00:20:14,480 Speaker 3: he'll just he'll inevitably just get better and better and better. 408 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:14,760 Speaker 2: You know. 409 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:17,240 Speaker 3: I know he would say that he needs to become 410 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 3: a better tackler and and he will become a better tackler. 411 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 3: I know that because every day he's out here, he's 412 00:20:23,040 --> 00:20:25,320 Speaker 3: working on his tracking, he's taking the extra step, he's 413 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:28,200 Speaker 3: putting on bodies on bodies like he's he's doing everything 414 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:30,920 Speaker 3: necessary to make sure that he's the best tackling safety 415 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 3: in this league. 416 00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:34,359 Speaker 1: Why is a ball financial Davis It? 417 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 2: I don't know. I do know, and I don't know. 418 00:20:39,640 --> 00:20:42,160 Speaker 3: He just has amazing instinct and he's got this nose 419 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:45,760 Speaker 3: for the ball that's just it's uncanny, you know, and 420 00:20:45,840 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 3: he has I think there's an element to guys that 421 00:20:50,240 --> 00:20:53,920 Speaker 3: like that are so doing it by the book, doing 422 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:55,920 Speaker 3: it by the playbook, and then there's guys that got 423 00:20:55,960 --> 00:20:56,639 Speaker 3: a little bit of. 424 00:20:59,840 --> 00:21:00,640 Speaker 2: The censored version. 425 00:21:00,680 --> 00:21:02,880 Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, is it like a freelancing within 426 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: the system, a little. 427 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:06,760 Speaker 3: Bit a little bit of like, you know, he's got 428 00:21:06,800 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 3: a little bit of a little bit of effort at 429 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:13,040 Speaker 3: times in the most positive a voice where it's like, I. 430 00:21:13,000 --> 00:21:15,359 Speaker 2: Know I'm supposed to be here, and I'm here, but 431 00:21:15,480 --> 00:21:16,560 Speaker 2: I know the ball's going here. 432 00:21:16,640 --> 00:21:18,879 Speaker 3: And and he's one of those few guys that allows 433 00:21:18,960 --> 00:21:22,080 Speaker 3: himself to go where he thinks the ball is going, 434 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:23,760 Speaker 3: you know. And he's been awarded for it a lot 435 00:21:23,760 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 3: of times. I mean, he's by far, he's he's demonstrated 436 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:29,679 Speaker 3: as our best ball guy, you know, on defense. So 437 00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,800 Speaker 3: you know when when we thought about the opportunity of 438 00:21:33,840 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 3: potentially losing him this offseason, you know that that hurt 439 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,040 Speaker 3: my heart because he's such an integral part of what 440 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 3: we do. You know, he's he's played so many roles 441 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 3: for us. He started here at safety, he started here 442 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:48,640 Speaker 3: at at at a variation of Nickel, He's he's played 443 00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:51,879 Speaker 3: essentially linebacker for us at times. So he's such a 444 00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:53,760 Speaker 3: critical piece to what we do. And at the same time, 445 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:56,959 Speaker 3: he's a game changer because he does get the ball quietly. 446 00:21:57,000 --> 00:22:00,960 Speaker 1: A lot of changes up front. You're talking about Quinn's there, 447 00:22:01,680 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 1: foundational piece. We know that Salmon Thomas resigns, but you 448 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:08,680 Speaker 1: guys signed Lucky Foto, and then also Javon king Law 449 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:11,359 Speaker 1: a former Niner yep, and then on the outside, Bryce 450 00:22:11,400 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: Off signs the Lucer deal with Philadelphia. You trade John 451 00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:19,320 Speaker 1: Franklin Weris to Denver, and Hassan Reddick is here. So 452 00:22:19,880 --> 00:22:25,640 Speaker 1: a lot of different faces. I know the expectations won't change, 453 00:22:25,800 --> 00:22:29,640 Speaker 1: but what do you make of the different landscape there. 454 00:22:30,320 --> 00:22:32,600 Speaker 3: I'm so excited about this group and to get them 455 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 3: together and to really spend time together. 456 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,359 Speaker 2: It's I was just telling. 457 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,040 Speaker 3: Coach Sla this morning, I just there's a part of 458 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 3: me once on I just want to fast forward to 459 00:22:40,560 --> 00:22:42,920 Speaker 3: training camp, you know, because I really I want to 460 00:22:42,920 --> 00:22:44,879 Speaker 3: get these guys in pads and I want to I 461 00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,560 Speaker 3: want to play real football with them, you know, and 462 00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:48,560 Speaker 3: see what we got it in. But I'm just so 463 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 3: excited about the entire group, so grateful for all that 464 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:55,399 Speaker 3: Bryce did for us, because you just it's he's a 465 00:22:55,440 --> 00:22:58,600 Speaker 3: world class pass rusher any any won and critical moments 466 00:22:58,600 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 3: and and he'll be missed and and JFM is a 467 00:23:01,840 --> 00:23:03,640 Speaker 3: guy that was really near and dear to my heart. 468 00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 3: I love not just the football player, but I really 469 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 3: got to see him grow as a human being here, 470 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:11,960 Speaker 3: you know, and become a different guy and a and 471 00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:16,679 Speaker 3: a leader and just embodied everything that we we uh 472 00:23:16,880 --> 00:23:20,000 Speaker 3: that we love around here about football and uh and 473 00:23:20,040 --> 00:23:23,000 Speaker 3: he'll be missed as well, you know. And but for 474 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,679 Speaker 3: us to get Solomon Thomas back is huge because he 475 00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 3: is our he is our ambassador strain and he lives 476 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 3: it every day and he's another energy giver in the 477 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,960 Speaker 3: highest level, just like Ta And to bring a guy 478 00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 3: in like Javon Kiinlaw, a big, explosive, violent athlete that, 479 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:43,760 Speaker 3: in my opinion like has not played his best football 480 00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:45,960 Speaker 3: yet and the NFL does not know who this man 481 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 3: can be. 482 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,360 Speaker 2: And he's about to show the entire world exactly who 483 00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,960 Speaker 2: he is. And in my opinion, that's a top d 484 00:23:52,080 --> 00:23:52,880 Speaker 2: tackle in this league. 485 00:23:52,920 --> 00:23:53,880 Speaker 1: So you like him coming out? 486 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:56,199 Speaker 3: I did loved him like he was going to be 487 00:23:56,200 --> 00:23:59,479 Speaker 3: our pick in Atlanta. Really he was, and then they 488 00:23:59,560 --> 00:24:02,119 Speaker 3: jumped in front of us and they and they took him. 489 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:06,520 Speaker 1: But I'll tell you the Kyle about him at league meetings. 490 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,040 Speaker 1: It's jumping around to the breakfast tables. I don't see 491 00:24:09,080 --> 00:24:12,440 Speaker 1: coaches breakfast, and he said, frankly, we would have liked 492 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:13,680 Speaker 1: to get them. 493 00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:15,200 Speaker 2: Yeah. Absolutely, Yeah. 494 00:24:15,280 --> 00:24:17,960 Speaker 3: There's been an element of injury and an element of 495 00:24:18,080 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 3: opportunity that have just for another reason was it was 496 00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 3: not right, and that's nobody's fault, you know. But he's 497 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:26,679 Speaker 3: he's going to have good health there and he's going 498 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 3: to have opportunity. And with the combination of those two things, 499 00:24:29,320 --> 00:24:31,679 Speaker 3: and plus now that he's he's got some experience in 500 00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,880 Speaker 3: this League, and the beauty of it is he's staying 501 00:24:33,920 --> 00:24:36,800 Speaker 3: in the same front system, he'd be able to just 502 00:24:38,359 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 3: he's uh, like, I don't want to say too much 503 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 3: because I want him to really demonstrate it with his actions. 504 00:24:42,680 --> 00:24:45,119 Speaker 1: But you're excited, You're clearly excited about super excited. 505 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:47,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, super excited and Lakey as well, Like he's another 506 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:53,720 Speaker 3: guy that he's one of those guys that embodies strain, toughness, violence, 507 00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: and when you play in a lot of multiple fronts 508 00:24:58,200 --> 00:25:01,400 Speaker 3: and you're playing in a lot of different techniques, it's 509 00:25:01,440 --> 00:25:05,359 Speaker 3: hard sometimes to just demonstrate that all the time. This 510 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,040 Speaker 3: front that we have is made for guys like him 511 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,840 Speaker 3: that just go and they go hard and they're violent, 512 00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:13,640 Speaker 3: all the things that he embodies. So I'm I'm super 513 00:25:13,680 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 3: excited about Laky as well. So it's, uh, it's been 514 00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:19,720 Speaker 3: an exciting addition, you know, to this group. Hassan as well, 515 00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,880 Speaker 3: Like obviously he's uh, you know, he's a guy that's 516 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 3: going to change this in a lot of ways. 517 00:25:24,160 --> 00:25:25,240 Speaker 2: His sack production. 518 00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:29,200 Speaker 3: Is it's unreal, you know, and his ability to really 519 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,520 Speaker 3: finish games and winning critical moments. He's he's a guy 520 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 3: who's going to add a definite another elementary. 521 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,840 Speaker 1: We're taping this during LTAS. What makes him a unique 522 00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:41,080 Speaker 1: pass rusher? Why, like you just talked about his production, 523 00:25:41,119 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 1: it's got fifty and a half sacks the last four years, 524 00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:46,520 Speaker 1: I mean lyeing them up. He's going double digits, right. 525 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:50,480 Speaker 1: Why does he constantly get there? And also he takes 526 00:25:50,480 --> 00:25:51,080 Speaker 1: the ball away? 527 00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:55,520 Speaker 2: He does It's unreal. Yes, it's a it's combination a 528 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:56,240 Speaker 2: lot of things. You know. 529 00:25:56,320 --> 00:25:58,880 Speaker 3: Coming from Temple, he did a little bit of everything there. 530 00:25:58,920 --> 00:26:00,520 Speaker 3: He played off the ball, he played all on the ball, 531 00:26:00,880 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 3: and I think when he was he was coming out, 532 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:05,080 Speaker 3: nobody knew really what he was going to be or 533 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:08,879 Speaker 3: could be, or what position he should necessarily play the 534 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,480 Speaker 3: majority of the time. And then obviously Arizona drafts him, 535 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:14,880 Speaker 3: and Arizona initially they try to utilize him the same 536 00:26:14,880 --> 00:26:16,640 Speaker 3: way that Temple did, where he was off the ball, 537 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:19,240 Speaker 3: on the ball, doing a little bit of everything, not 538 00:26:19,320 --> 00:26:22,639 Speaker 3: really becoming a master of anything at the time. And 539 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:25,679 Speaker 3: then finally they started to transition him to more of 540 00:26:25,680 --> 00:26:28,159 Speaker 3: a d N you know, DPR pass rushing mode. And 541 00:26:29,920 --> 00:26:32,200 Speaker 3: at first all you saw was speed, and you saw 542 00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 3: a guy just run around tackles, and when he got there, 543 00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 3: He's a guy that was so cognizant of the ball that, 544 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:39,160 Speaker 3: like you said, he took the ball off a lot 545 00:26:39,200 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 3: of people. 546 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:42,360 Speaker 2: But as we all know, like. 547 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,920 Speaker 3: In time, when people really learn your game, speed isn't 548 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:48,000 Speaker 3: going to be enough, you know. And to really see 549 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:50,560 Speaker 3: him evolve of these last couple of years and really 550 00:26:50,680 --> 00:26:53,359 Speaker 3: create an arsenal of moves, he's a guy now that 551 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,359 Speaker 3: he can counter inside, he can beat you outside with speed. 552 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:59,000 Speaker 3: He's got an element of power that he's developed, which 553 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 3: you have to have to have to be a successful 554 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,440 Speaker 3: pass rusher. And at the same time, his ability and 555 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,560 Speaker 3: knack for the ball has never changed. 556 00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 2: So he's just. 557 00:27:08,520 --> 00:27:11,840 Speaker 3: A growing, evolving player that And I know this sounds 558 00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,199 Speaker 3: crazy with the guy that's got fifty sacks in his resume, 559 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:17,359 Speaker 3: but I don't think anyone's seen the best version of him. 560 00:27:17,359 --> 00:27:20,880 Speaker 2: I think last year he played good football. 561 00:27:21,320 --> 00:27:23,800 Speaker 3: I think you get this guy seven eight more opportunities 562 00:27:23,840 --> 00:27:25,840 Speaker 3: to go forward in a game. You'll see that on 563 00:27:25,840 --> 00:27:27,400 Speaker 3: the stat sheet and we'll feel that in the game. 564 00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:31,000 Speaker 1: Fair enough, Jermaine Johnson, you mentioned saus Gardner before stepping 565 00:27:31,080 --> 00:27:33,240 Speaker 1: up as a leader. Yep, kind of sense the same 566 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:35,320 Speaker 1: thing from him now entering year three as well. 567 00:27:35,400 --> 00:27:38,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, like he's a you know, to be a leader, 568 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:41,119 Speaker 3: you got to walk the walk, and you got to 569 00:27:41,160 --> 00:27:43,320 Speaker 3: demonstrate with your actions before you say anything, you know, 570 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 3: because I see way better than I hear. 571 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:46,359 Speaker 2: And he's a guy that. 572 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: I don't say this lightly, you know, especially with a 573 00:27:50,640 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 3: guy like Sally on our roster, who is as hard 574 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,320 Speaker 3: working as anybody I've ever been around. That he is 575 00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:59,679 Speaker 3: we call stack monsters. When the balls thrown the defensive 576 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:02,640 Speaker 3: line's out of the stack. I would challenge any coach 577 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 3: in this league or player in this league to say 578 00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:08,560 Speaker 3: that you can't find a better stack monster than Jamie Johnson. 579 00:28:08,880 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: So here's a guy that he's got crazy talent because 580 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,840 Speaker 3: he's long, he's fast, he's powerful, he's violent, he's really 581 00:28:15,880 --> 00:28:18,879 Speaker 3: starting to understand how to rush. But at the same time, 582 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,040 Speaker 3: he's earned the right to be a leader because of 583 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: his work, ethic and the stuff that takes no talent. 584 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 3: His effort is strained, his ability to come out of 585 00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:31,920 Speaker 3: the stack every time. That's what's really earned the stripes 586 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 3: to stand up and demand things of his teammates and 587 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 3: hold them accountable. And it's going to be fun this 588 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,080 Speaker 3: year to watch him continue to grow in that role. 589 00:28:41,520 --> 00:28:44,120 Speaker 1: I think you kind of have to have this. You're 590 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:46,440 Speaker 1: going to be playing between the white lines every Sunday. 591 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:51,480 Speaker 1: But he's got kind of f you mentality out there. 592 00:28:52,240 --> 00:28:56,520 Speaker 3: And it's unique because in this setting you would say 593 00:28:56,560 --> 00:28:59,240 Speaker 3: he's very docile. In this setting, you'd say he's got 594 00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,719 Speaker 3: like some cool casualness to him, you know, because he is. 595 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 2: He's cooler than me. You know, it's not very hard 596 00:29:05,440 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 2: to do. 597 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: But he's got some like as they say, he's got 598 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:11,240 Speaker 3: some swag to him, the way he carries himself. And 599 00:29:12,880 --> 00:29:15,440 Speaker 3: in my experience, typically those guys that are casual and 600 00:29:15,480 --> 00:29:20,160 Speaker 3: cool and swaggy, they might not always demonstrate that high 601 00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 3: level strain and toughness and grit. But he plays like 602 00:29:26,360 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 3: a guy with no swag. You know, he plays like 603 00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,959 Speaker 3: a guy that's got no casualness, no coolness to him. 604 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:32,520 Speaker 3: You know, he plays like the I. 605 00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,800 Speaker 1: Told him this multiple times last year that we broke 606 00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,120 Speaker 1: this down. We had bart break this down in here. 607 00:29:38,240 --> 00:29:41,120 Speaker 1: Telestration Wise, it was a game that you guys lost. 608 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:42,680 Speaker 1: He didn't play up to your standards, but it was 609 00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: by the goal line you probably remember to play. Is 610 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:49,160 Speaker 1: that Zach Martin, perhaps the best guard in the National 611 00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:55,160 Speaker 1: Football He's pulling and Jermaine took him on and it's set. 612 00:29:55,760 --> 00:29:58,840 Speaker 1: I don't remember who made the tackle, but the play 613 00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,800 Speaker 1: that just stands out is there's Jermaine saying, yeah, I 614 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,440 Speaker 1: know he's coming, I'm meeting him and they're not getting in. 615 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:09,160 Speaker 2: And that's every play. That's every play. 616 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:12,400 Speaker 3: Like we play nine techniques, as everybody knows, and that 617 00:30:12,480 --> 00:30:14,280 Speaker 3: means that a lot of times tight ends have to 618 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 3: try to block our ends. And I've seen him make 619 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:23,360 Speaker 3: tight ends tapping games, you know, definitely cringing, definitely flinching, 620 00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 3: definitely closing their eyes by the fourth quarter. 621 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:26,440 Speaker 2: All right, let's go back. 622 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:27,400 Speaker 1: To the linebacker position. 623 00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:28,840 Speaker 2: CJ. 624 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,920 Speaker 1: Moseley, heart of the defense. He takes a restructure, wants 625 00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,800 Speaker 1: to be here. That's awesome. Let's talk about the team 626 00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:39,720 Speaker 1: MVP twenty twenty three. Quincy Williams, you go ways back 627 00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: with him, yep. Can you talk about this linebacker defender 628 00:30:43,960 --> 00:30:48,560 Speaker 1: coming out of Murray State and perhaps you're scouting evaluation 629 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:48,960 Speaker 1: of him. 630 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. 631 00:30:49,880 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 3: Before I talk about Quincy, just really quick about Quinnen 632 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,840 Speaker 3: and CJ. Like, yep, Just so that everyone understands, none 633 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 3: of this works without the. 634 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 2: Two of those human beings the heart. 635 00:31:00,840 --> 00:31:03,960 Speaker 3: They are the absolute heart and more than where they're 636 00:31:04,000 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: located in our defense, just all they embody, all they 637 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:10,040 Speaker 3: stand for, the standard and the level of play each 638 00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,000 Speaker 3: week that they they come with and they're the way 639 00:31:13,000 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 3: they prepare. 640 00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 2: Really the way they. 641 00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,200 Speaker 3: Operate within our building is just so unique and uncommon, 642 00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:20,320 Speaker 3: and we would not be the defense without those two 643 00:31:20,360 --> 00:31:21,080 Speaker 3: human beings. 644 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:24,680 Speaker 1: All right, So if you want us go there? Do 645 00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 1: you think quinnin takes note of Aaron Donald retiring because 646 00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,720 Speaker 1: he's all team. He wants to win. He was drafted 647 00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: here and that's the number one thing for Quinn Williams, 648 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 1: no doubt. But with that being said, if you're a 649 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: competitor too and you want to be thought of on 650 00:31:44,840 --> 00:31:48,600 Speaker 1: a different level, I think it would be natural to say, listen, man, 651 00:31:48,880 --> 00:31:50,960 Speaker 1: I want to be known as the best defensive tackle 652 00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:51,520 Speaker 1: in national. 653 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 3: Footballer, No, without a doubt, and I think that he's 654 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 3: capable of that, and I think he's very close to that. 655 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 3: I think whether he'd admit this or not, I think that, 656 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:05,480 Speaker 3: like an Aaron Donald retiring might piss him off a 657 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 3: little bit from the standpoint, like I want to be 658 00:32:07,600 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 3: I want to be the best et with that guy playing, 659 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 3: you know, and and that's he's definitely capable of that, 660 00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 3: and he's close to it, and it's going to be 661 00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: really fun to watch him become that, you know, and 662 00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:20,200 Speaker 3: and there's no doubt in my mind that at the 663 00:32:20,320 --> 00:32:22,880 Speaker 3: end of this next season that there's nobody in the 664 00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:24,680 Speaker 3: in the NFL that will be able to say differently 665 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 3: that he is going to be the best d tackle 666 00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,080 Speaker 3: in all the NFL this year. 667 00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,760 Speaker 1: So let's go back to Quincy. 668 00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:30,480 Speaker 2: Quincy. 669 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:34,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, he is a I've loved him since Murray State. 670 00:32:34,360 --> 00:32:39,280 Speaker 3: Like I'm in Atlanta and uh I got an opportunity 671 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:44,200 Speaker 3: to work him out at University of of UAB in Birmingham, 672 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:47,800 Speaker 3: his hometown, and uh spent a day with him out there. 673 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,600 Speaker 3: First of all, he almost broke my arm in a 674 00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,640 Speaker 3: as he hit me with a blocking shield and tore 675 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:58,640 Speaker 3: the ligaments off of my forearm. Because like he's he's 676 00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:00,480 Speaker 3: a very unique guy. And it's funny when these young 677 00:33:00,480 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 3: guys get around him outside that maybe maybe guys that 678 00:33:03,560 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 3: aren't completely familiar with the NFL game, but you see 679 00:33:07,120 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 3: Quincy and he's and he's short statued and and. 680 00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:12,840 Speaker 2: He might not look like. 681 00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:17,520 Speaker 3: The prototypical like linebacker from the NFL. But don't get 682 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:21,360 Speaker 3: it twisted. There's not a more explosive linebacker in the 683 00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:24,200 Speaker 3: NFL right now playing, you know. And I definitely felt 684 00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 3: it that day when I worked him out. He made 685 00:33:27,360 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 3: me very sore. But I still remember I was also 686 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,000 Speaker 3: working him out with another player that was at UAB, 687 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,200 Speaker 3: and we got in the classroom as we always do 688 00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,160 Speaker 3: when we work these guys out, and to you know, 689 00:33:36,200 --> 00:33:38,360 Speaker 3: get an idea about their level of their ability to 690 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:42,120 Speaker 3: learn and uh articulate the defense they were playing, but 691 00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,440 Speaker 3: also help us see if they can absorb and articulate 692 00:33:46,480 --> 00:33:50,040 Speaker 3: the defense that that that we play. And uh, I 693 00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,440 Speaker 3: remember it was like yesterday, the way he got up 694 00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:57,800 Speaker 3: on the board and the UAB linebacker was struggling a 695 00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,200 Speaker 3: little bit with learning it, and the way he took 696 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: the meeting over and kind of started to teach him 697 00:34:02,240 --> 00:34:05,440 Speaker 3: and put in his own words and and so I 698 00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,240 Speaker 3: was blown away by the athlete. But I also became 699 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:13,520 Speaker 3: blown away with the mind, his love for this game. 700 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 3: And now that I've got an opportunity to really be 701 00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 3: around him, he's a guy that just. 702 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:21,799 Speaker 2: He's he could be the. 703 00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:24,720 Speaker 3: Best linebacker in the NFL right now, you know, and 704 00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,759 Speaker 3: and and it's funny because a lot of guys they 705 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,360 Speaker 3: get paid when they become that when they become pro bowlers, 706 00:34:30,360 --> 00:34:32,520 Speaker 3: they become all pros and their level of work and 707 00:34:32,560 --> 00:34:35,759 Speaker 3: dedication still good, but it might not be great. Like 708 00:34:35,840 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 3: I've seen this guy go the other way, like he 709 00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 3: got a taste of success and he wants more, like 710 00:34:41,640 --> 00:34:43,920 Speaker 3: we've we've talked about all the time, Like he got 711 00:34:43,920 --> 00:34:46,080 Speaker 3: a good bag of money, but he's in store to 712 00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:49,200 Speaker 3: get a really big bag of money now because he 713 00:34:49,320 --> 00:34:53,319 Speaker 3: is really he pulled apart from the group last year 714 00:34:53,360 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 3: as far as the entire NFL's linebackers, you know, and 715 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 3: I think he's going to take another step this year. 716 00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,800 Speaker 1: Speak to that. Why did he pull apart? 717 00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,880 Speaker 2: Why is he different? 718 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: Because just so willing to work. It's just so rare 719 00:35:03,239 --> 00:35:05,399 Speaker 3: when you got a guy with his athletic skill set. 720 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:13,560 Speaker 3: He's explosive, he's fast, he has the profile that I love. 721 00:35:13,760 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 3: We're a little bit short stature because you're changing direction 722 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 3: and your natural leverage for striking, but he's got extremely 723 00:35:20,960 --> 00:35:22,920 Speaker 3: long levers, which a lot of people don't know that. 724 00:35:22,960 --> 00:35:26,080 Speaker 3: He's you know, thirty three plus inch arms, so the 725 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: combination of the athleticism, the body that he has, and 726 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,880 Speaker 3: now the brain that he has on top of the desire, 727 00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,560 Speaker 3: the love and the ability to and you know, the 728 00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:41,120 Speaker 3: work ethic. He's just going to continue to grow and 729 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:42,120 Speaker 3: keeps on. 730 00:35:42,520 --> 00:35:44,520 Speaker 1: What are you saying to the files out here in 731 00:35:44,560 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 1: the spring when Rogers is looking down the right sideline 732 00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:51,120 Speaker 1: coming back throwing a no look across the medal, or 733 00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:53,759 Speaker 1: he's rolling right on a boot coming back throwing sixty 734 00:35:53,800 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: five yards down the field. 735 00:35:55,200 --> 00:35:57,120 Speaker 3: I love it, you know, because it just makes you 736 00:35:57,160 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 3: so tight from the back ends perspective. When you're not 737 00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 3: playing against a quarterback of his caliber, you can get 738 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,359 Speaker 3: loose with your details at time. I'd like to say 739 00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,560 Speaker 3: that as coaches, we see everything all the time. We 740 00:36:09,600 --> 00:36:12,680 Speaker 3: make sure every detail is just perfect all the time, 741 00:36:12,960 --> 00:36:15,279 Speaker 3: and we try our best to do that. But there 742 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 3: is nothing better than instant feedback of a quarterback getting 743 00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 3: you on something because your details were just a little 744 00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:25,600 Speaker 3: bit off, you know, So to have him test us 745 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: on a daily basis, it just makes us that much better. 746 00:36:28,680 --> 00:36:31,200 Speaker 1: How much fun are you having? This is center year 747 00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:35,920 Speaker 1: four for you? Like you said, the continuity, yep, you 748 00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,399 Speaker 1: took some lamps I'll never forget that New England game. 749 00:36:38,440 --> 00:36:42,520 Speaker 1: I don't remember the score, but you said we could 750 00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:45,440 Speaker 1: do some quick fixes here and it might help in 751 00:36:45,480 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: the short run. It's not going to help in the 752 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 1: long run. Yep, you stuck to your guns. And now 753 00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:55,359 Speaker 1: here you have this unit and the potential. You got 754 00:36:55,360 --> 00:36:58,720 Speaker 1: to be talking inside that meeting room that we should 755 00:36:58,800 --> 00:37:01,560 Speaker 1: be the top defense in the National Football League. 756 00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:03,760 Speaker 2: That's got to be the expectation run without a doubt. 757 00:37:03,880 --> 00:37:07,000 Speaker 3: You know, I'm speaking on them, whether I'm having fun 758 00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:08,600 Speaker 3: or not, Like I don't know if I've ever had 759 00:37:08,600 --> 00:37:09,839 Speaker 3: more fun coaching this game. 760 00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:11,959 Speaker 2: It's just it's just so rare. 761 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,440 Speaker 3: And I've said this before but I'll say it again, 762 00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:18,680 Speaker 3: is the character of that room is unlike anyone I've 763 00:37:18,719 --> 00:37:21,360 Speaker 3: ever been around, from top to bottom. Like you cannot 764 00:37:21,400 --> 00:37:24,320 Speaker 3: be you can't be in it. Can I say, asshole? 765 00:37:24,400 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 2: You can't. You can't be an asshole on this defense. 766 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,600 Speaker 3: You can't. You can't be a self promoter. You can't 767 00:37:28,600 --> 00:37:30,680 Speaker 3: be a guy that's all about yourself. You can't be selfish. 768 00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:33,440 Speaker 3: You can't. If you are, you'll stand out like such 769 00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 3: a sword thumb. You'll get ostracized very quickly. Life will 770 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:39,080 Speaker 3: not be fun for you, you know, because the guys 771 00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 3: won't won't allow it. They won't, they won't put up 772 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,640 Speaker 3: with it. The fact that we have this group that 773 00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,320 Speaker 3: is just we have such good human beings the DNA. 774 00:37:47,440 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 3: These guys are so right, they're so committed to the process. 775 00:37:51,960 --> 00:37:55,279 Speaker 3: It doesn't matter what we're doing, it doesn't matter meetings, walkthroughs, practice, 776 00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,120 Speaker 3: like I got to go out there and coach. I 777 00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,359 Speaker 3: don't have to know them, I don't have to push them, 778 00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:04,360 Speaker 3: I don't have to like Their level of self motivation 779 00:38:04,600 --> 00:38:07,960 Speaker 3: and the way they hold each other accountable is from 780 00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,439 Speaker 3: a collective unit is unlike anything I've ever been around. 781 00:38:10,520 --> 00:38:13,440 Speaker 3: So because of that, it just makes it. It's such 782 00:38:13,440 --> 00:38:14,560 Speaker 3: a joy to coach these guys. 783 00:38:14,560 --> 00:38:15,080 Speaker 2: It really is. 784 00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,080 Speaker 1: Well, it's such a joy to always talk to you. 785 00:38:18,400 --> 00:38:21,359 Speaker 1: Thanks for coming up here. Enjoy your trips coming up here. 786 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 2: Thank you. 787 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:25,040 Speaker 1: This summer man get away, I will get away and 788 00:38:25,080 --> 00:38:27,440 Speaker 1: then we'll see you back here at training camp. 789 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:29,000 Speaker 2: Time to go. Thanks brother, Thank you.