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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Wednesday edition Clay Travis buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show. I appreciate all of you hanging out with us.

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Speaker 1: We've got a loaded radio program for you. We join

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Speaker 1: wrote a great piece for Foxnews dot com doctor Marty McCarry,

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Speaker 1: who has been one of the voices of sanity in

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Speaker 1: the medical community. JOHNS Hopkins of the Doctor also the

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Speaker 1: chief medical adviser I believe for the State of Virginia

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Speaker 1: and Glenn Junkin, the new governor there. He wrote a

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Speaker 1: piece pointing out all of the flaws that the so

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Speaker 1: called experts have embraced associated with COVID. We've got the

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Speaker 1: United States Senate which voted not to continue the mask

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Speaker 1: mandate on planes, on trains, in your ubers, and your lifts,

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Speaker 1: all of the different places where masks are still required.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. Guess who was the only Republican

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Speaker 1: to vote in favor of maintaining the mask mandate. None

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Speaker 1: other than Senator Mitt Romney of Utah. We will be

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Speaker 1: joined by Senator Ron Johnson of Wisconsin in the program.

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Speaker 1: We'll talk more about Mitt Romney and a bit although Buck,

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Speaker 1: does it surprise you that Mitt Romney was the only

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Speaker 1: Republican to vote in favor in some ways of maintaining

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Speaker 1: the mask mandate. No, because ever since I saw him

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Speaker 1: marching with BLM and and did you we should pull

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Speaker 1: that all day where he's like, well, I'm here because

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Speaker 1: you know, I want to make it clear that black

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Speaker 1: lives matter. I was like, this guy is such I

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Speaker 1: guess maybe he was so beaten down, but let's be

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Speaker 1: honest getting his butt kicked by Obama in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 1: that he's just desperate for the approval of the elites. Now,

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Speaker 1: you know, he just wants he wants the New York

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Speaker 1: Times to think well of him. That was pathetic, but

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Speaker 1: this was even more annoying because he his justification, you know, Clay, sorry,

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Speaker 1: I know we don't want to get his justification is

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Speaker 1: that the expert should make these decisions. No, I want

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Speaker 1: to flip over tables and scream profanity when he says this.

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Speaker 1: The Senate should be making the determination about this based

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Speaker 1: on if they want the advice of people like the CDC.

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Speaker 1: The CDC is not some super legislature, no doubt, and

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Speaker 1: also they're not held accountable by voters, which is why

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Speaker 1: we're saying November has to be an onslaught. By the way,

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Speaker 1: it is also the two year anniversary of fifteen days

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Speaker 1: to slow the spread. If you remember that press conference,

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Speaker 1: it has now been seven hundred I believe seven hundred

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Speaker 1: and thirty days since fifteen days to slow the spread.

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Speaker 1: We're still fighting a lot of those battles. But speaking

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Speaker 1: of fighting battles of Vladimir Zelinsky addressed Congress just a

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Speaker 1: couple of hours ago and made his plea for as

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Speaker 1: much American support as he could possibly get as the

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Speaker 1: overall battle inside of Ukraine continues to grow an intensity.

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Speaker 1: He spoke in English for a short part of that

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Speaker 1: overall address. Here is Vladimir Zelensky speaking in English and

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Speaker 1: the leader of my niche. I'm addressing the President Biden.

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Speaker 1: You have the leader of the Niche. I wish you

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Speaker 1: be the leader of the world. Being the leader of

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Speaker 1: the wold means to be the leader office thinking. So

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Speaker 1: there's no doubt now, Buck that Zelensky is continuing to

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Speaker 1: play the role we talked about this last week of

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Speaker 1: the modern day Churchill. He is going around and speaking

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Speaker 1: to all these different countries. He just spoke to Canada.

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Speaker 1: I believe he's scheduled to speak to several other European countries.

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Speaker 1: He's already spoken last week to Boris Johnson Parliament in England.

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Speaker 1: He spoke to Congress asking for as much support as

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Speaker 1: he can possibly get. I don't doubt that this will

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Speaker 1: help his overall trajectory in terms of the amount of

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Speaker 1: do you believe anything changed in any kind of substantive

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Speaker 1: way based on his address to Congress today? Buck emotional appeal,

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Speaker 1: That's what it was. In front of the members of

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Speaker 1: orchestral sad orchestral music, and they were showing horrific imagery

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Speaker 1: of children missing legs and buildings being destroyed. And this

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Speaker 1: is all meant and this is all happening, and it

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Speaker 1: is horrible, it is atrocious. This is meant to evoke

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Speaker 1: an emotional response from us that we should think differently

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Speaker 1: upon the emotional appeal, right, based upon our sense of

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Speaker 1: There's already negotiations under way, this is being widely reported

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Speaker 1: They're being bullied and they're being massacred by a superior

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Speaker 1: that is horrific. But all of that said, the most

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Speaker 1: important thing I believe is to bring this war to

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Speaker 1: a conclusion. And there's already a discussion about neutrality for Ukraine.

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Speaker 1: Would that be enough now? Ukraine, as I understand the

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Speaker 1: negotiations and of course, I'm out there and we have

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Speaker 1: we have to have guarantees, security guarantees, and not just

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Speaker 1: a promise of neutrality. But there's already discussion about how

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Speaker 1: to end this thing. Keep that in mind when we're

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Speaker 1: looking at now the ask from Zelenski, there's really a

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Speaker 1: two there's two things. He wants a no fly zone

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Speaker 1: clear the skies, which we've already discussed, a no flies

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Speaker 1: seen for everybody out there that a no fly zone

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Speaker 1: is going to have the support in order to ever occur,

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Speaker 1: at least with United States involvement or NATO involvement. Right,

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Speaker 1: it does not seem that it's going to happen today. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure ever, but I think today, which is

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Speaker 1: we don't there is a bipartisan leadership consensus. But it

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Speaker 1: has this has been evolving day in and day out.

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Speaker 1: The secondary ask was, well, if you won't do that,

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Speaker 1: give us more weapons. And now there's discussion of sending

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Speaker 1: the Switchblade suicide drones for example. I mean it's a

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Speaker 1: advanced surface to air missile system so they could at

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Speaker 1: least defend themselves better against these Russian strikes. Keep in

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Speaker 1: mind a lot of what we're seeing our Russian missile

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Speaker 1: strikes from what we understand in artillery and a no

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Speaker 1: fly zone would be very limited. And the way you

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Speaker 1: What is there that would make Vladimir Putin not actually

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Speaker 1: do this? And look, they've already negotiated. They thought for

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Speaker 1: is how in the world do you get an enforceable

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Speaker 1: So there's trust him. There's two parts of this, right

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Speaker 1: Clay is the reality of what things actually look like

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Speaker 1: Does the United States? Does do our NATO allies? Want

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Speaker 1: Our troops should not be involved, our airmen and women

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Speaker 1: should not be involved. But Clay that could change very quickly.

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Speaker 1: Enough of these videos, enough of these appeals. Not only that,

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Speaker 1: we should have obviously supplied them a lot more lethal

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Speaker 1: How much are you concerned? There's been a lot of

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Speaker 1: of dollars, we were sparking inflation, and so for at

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Speaker 1: think we're in a wage price spiral right now where

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Speaker 1: inflation on top of that, Senator Johnson, we're coming up

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Speaker 1: But there certainly seems a desire on the part of

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Speaker 1: And so I'm always concerned about that. I've got my

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Speaker 1: you know. Again, I am concerned about that because, let's

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Speaker 1: face it, Joe is actually saying the solution to inflation,

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Speaker 1: You got to watch what they say, because they actually

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Speaker 1: carried out as best they can. Senators Johnson, I got yeah,

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Speaker 1: building on that, when do you think this the congressional

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Speaker 1: When are you anticipating, Hey, we're out of DC and

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Speaker 1: people don't have to worry about tax increases occurring in

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Speaker 1: mid terms. Well, one of two scenarios. Either we reached

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Speaker 1: the Wednesday edition of the program by doctor Marty McCarry

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Speaker 1: of Johns Hopkins University. He's the author of The Price

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Speaker 1: We Pay. He also has got a great piece up,

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Speaker 1: ten biggest COVID mistakes Americans deserve an apology from the

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Speaker 1: Doctor McCarry, appreciate you joining us. I read your piece

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Speaker 1: this morning, really well done. What is your take on

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Speaker 1: we We said we were going to talk about it

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Speaker 1: in a little bit, but the Senate actually voted on

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Speaker 1: mask mandates on airplanes and Mitt Romney was the only Republican.

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Speaker 1: I believe there were eight different Democratic Senators, many of

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Speaker 1: them in tight reelection races, that also voted fifty seven

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Speaker 1: total to do away with the airplane mandate. Why in

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Speaker 1: the world does that mandate still exist? Is it totally

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Speaker 1: and completely illogical? I think it is. I think that

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Speaker 1: we have now the data that we should have gotten

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Speaker 1: on day one of the pandemic on cloth masks, and

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Speaker 1: really what protects people is the ventilation in the airplane,

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Speaker 1: and some people just don't want to accept that. And

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Speaker 1: if you want to wear a mask forever for the

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Speaker 1: rest of your life, then you'll say we need to

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Speaker 1: wear a mask now because we're about the lowest numbers

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Speaker 1: we're going to be. We're going to fester at these

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Speaker 1: low numbers off and on forever. People are getting depressed.

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Speaker 1: People don't like they're sad when they're wearing a mask.

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Speaker 1: We're not. We're losing the human connection. And we just

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Speaker 1: got data that the isolation that the pandemic has promoted

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Speaker 1: has increased the rates of heart disease and stroke by

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Speaker 1: thirty percent and increased dementia by fifty percent. So we've

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Speaker 1: got to accept a little bit of risk on COVID

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Speaker 1: to try to alleviate the harm we're seeing outside of COVID. Wizening,

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Speaker 1: Doctor McCarrick, can you just just hit that again, because

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Speaker 1: I hadn't seen or heard that. I think people really

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Speaker 1: do need to hear this. We've seen what percent increases

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Speaker 1: in heart attack and stroke during the pandemic. Yeah, so

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Speaker 1: this is a study ironically, that data that came from

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Speaker 1: the CDCs, so just recognize the real numbers maybe twice

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Speaker 1: as high. But they reported that the effect of isolation

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Speaker 1: during the pandemic result in a twenty nine percent increase

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Speaker 1: in heart disease, thirty two percent increase in stroke, and

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Speaker 1: a fifty percent increase in dementia. People are losing their mind,

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Speaker 1: so they're locking people away is dramatically increasing their possibility

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Speaker 1: of death from a whole range of factors. That is,

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Speaker 1: that is from the CDC's own data. That's right, and

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Speaker 1: something that scientists are not honest about is that we've

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Speaker 1: lost about one hundred thousand Americans a year above what

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Speaker 1: we normally lose and in our death tolls from non

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Speaker 1: COVID mortality, what we call excess non COVID death. Nobody

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Speaker 1: is talking about that. That is something that you don't

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Speaker 1: see in Sweden, which by the way, all in all

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Speaker 1: has a far lower fatality rate per capita than the

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Speaker 1: United States. Speaking of doctor Marty McCarry and doctor McCarry,

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Speaker 1: I also want to know what you think when you

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Speaker 1: hear the CEO of Fizer Borlach saying that we are.

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Speaker 1: They're calling for the emergency authorization for a fourth shot

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Speaker 1: meeting the second booster shot, and even Fauci now says, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it might have to be shots forever. I mean, are

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Speaker 1: these people just utterly shameless, because I remember when even

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Speaker 1: last summer, when people like me and Clay and others

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Speaker 1: for the rest of your life if they can, if

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Speaker 1: the people that pushed this kind of stuff, and now

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Speaker 1: I've realized it wasn't what they said it would be. Well,

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Speaker 1: a lot of doctors are frustrated that a company executive

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Speaker 1: of the United States CDC, and duct Fauci and doctor

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Speaker 1: Willinsky are playing passive. We started to see that when

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Speaker 1: Omicron came about in South Africa, Willinski and Fauci, the

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Speaker 1: NIH all took a very passive role. And the companies

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Speaker 1: did the experiments, not the United States laboratories in the government.

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Speaker 1: The companies, the pharma industry did the experiments and said

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Speaker 1: we have data telling you that you should get another shot,

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Speaker 1: and they just parroted what they without seeing the underlying data.

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Speaker 1: Just repeat it that a lot of people are frustrated,

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Speaker 1: and I think if it were up to the shareholders Advisor,

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Speaker 1: we might be getting a shot every Monday morning when

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Speaker 1: we show up to work, doctor McCarry. In your ten

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Speaker 1: things that we got wrong, meaning the public health experts,

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Speaker 1: what do you think was the biggest failure when I

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Speaker 1: read your list to me, it's shutting down the schools.

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Speaker 1: Was there a bigger failure in your mind than that? Well,

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you one that's just close to my heart

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Speaker 1: because I'm as surgeon who has been with people at

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Speaker 1: the end of life at the bedside and the ICU

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Speaker 1: and the way that we shut out loved ones from

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Speaker 1: saying good bye to their family members. It was a

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Speaker 1: human rights violation that spends most of the pandemic, and

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Speaker 1: all the hospitals were complicit as the establishment did nothing.

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Speaker 1: That was one of the most cruel practices this country

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Speaker 1: inflicted on its own citizens, Doctor McCarry. Are you having

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Speaker 1: more and more people from within the medical community reach

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Speaker 1: out to you to either I mean, look, it's at

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Speaker 1: this point even more important. I would think that them

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Speaker 1: saying your right is saying that they will not allow

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Speaker 1: this to happen again. They recognize that masking up between

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Speaker 1: bites on airplanes is a moronic, anti scientific policy that

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Speaker 1: was instituted. Masking up of children in schools was an idiotic,

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Speaker 1: I mean, are there other doctors? Will you know? We

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Speaker 1: lot of you mds with real credentials who would come

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Speaker 1: the lone man shouting from the mountaintop the next time, doc,

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Speaker 1: or they're going to be others standing alongside you. I

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Speaker 1: think a lot of doctors now feel empowered. They've seen

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Speaker 1: that they've got to speak up. They you know, I

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Speaker 1: got a lot of secret praise from doctors around the

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Speaker 1: We took a big risk because universities and medical societies

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Speaker 1: opinion different from the establishment. But we're all proud of

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Speaker 1: our medical profession and we're seeing our credibility now in

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Speaker 1: the toilet. And that's why doctors are speaking up down,

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Speaker 1: and they're coming around. I'm reading right now the Washington

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Speaker 1: Post doctor McCarry. They have a headline a COVID surgeon

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Speaker 1: Western Europe has us bracing for another wave right now.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the numbers are down quite low in the United

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Speaker 1: States as the omicron variant seems to have burned out.

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Speaker 1: Do you expect to see these continuing waves in the future,

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Speaker 1: maybe even this one connected to Western Europe? There has

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Speaker 1: oftentimes been a connection between what happens in Western Europe

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Speaker 1: and what they're seeing is an uptick. I wouldn't call

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Speaker 1: it a wave. I don't think it's going to be

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Speaker 1: a wave. What they're seeing is that the BA two

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Speaker 1: infection out there, even in people who had omicron in

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Speaker 1: the past. And so what they're noticing is an uptick,

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Speaker 1: older people or may not be those vaccines may not

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Speaker 1: be holding up very well. I think we're going to

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Speaker 1: can guarantee you COVID's going to take a bump up

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Speaker 1: in the fall because it's now one of the regular

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Speaker 1: respiratory viruses. We're going to see every winter, every viral season,

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Speaker 1: Doctor McCarry, Are you confident that we will never go

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Speaker 1: and when I say we, I mean anywhere, including places

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Speaker 1: into lockdown again? Is that? Is there a consensus, even

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Speaker 1: little to no benefit. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a consensus.

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Speaker 1: I mean, look at the study out of Hopkins on lockdowns.

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Speaker 1: studying the impact of it. There's probably no better comparison

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Speaker 1: than comparing Sweden and Michigan, identical in population, identical in

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Speaker 1: death of Michigan. We've got to learn our lessons, and

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Speaker 1: unfortunately I think some parts of the country are not

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Speaker 1: interested in the data or McCarry, what would you tell

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Speaker 1: us we should know for everybody out there who is

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Speaker 1: How does this continue? Well? I think the thing that

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Speaker 1: We've never talked about obesity as a risk factor. We've

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Speaker 1: got to get people active healthy, we've got to talk

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Speaker 1: that risk cannot be eliminated. We've got to learn to

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Speaker 1: live with it because it's going to be here forever,

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Speaker 1: which means every viral season we're going to see a

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Speaker 1: of all respiratory pathogens. At this point, influenza is as

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Speaker 1: we're more dangerous than COVID. According to the New Financial

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Speaker 1: Times analysis that just came out. We've got to learn

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Speaker 1: to live with all these viral pathogens. Doctor Martin McCarry

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Speaker 1: of Johns Hopkins University Medical Center, author of The Price

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Speaker 1: Ten biggest COVID mistakes Americans deserve an apology from the

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Speaker 1: going to circle back to this in just a sec.

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Speaker 1: Remember that controversial bill in Florida where kindergartener's first graders,

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Speaker 1: second graders, and third graders were not to be instructed

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Speaker 1: in X related issues because they were too young, And

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Speaker 1: everybody on social media was telling you, oh my goodness,

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Speaker 1: can you believe it? They tried to brand it that

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Speaker 1: don't say gay bill. Turns out pretty substantial portion of

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Speaker 1: the American public supports that bill. Want to talk about

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Speaker 1: that Mitt Romney, I mean, voting against a mask mandate.

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Speaker 1: We still need to tee off on him. It's embarrassing.

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Speaker 1: I feel bad for the people of Utah that Mitt

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Speaker 1: Romney is still bowing down to the quote unquote experts

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Speaker 1: in the world of COVID. And also how about New

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Speaker 1: York City, Buck's hometown. This is a story that I

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Speaker 1: think is going to get more and more attention. If

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Speaker 1: the players on the New York Yankees or the New

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Speaker 1: York Mets are not vaccinated, they are not allowed to

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Speaker 1: play outdoor baseball games in New York City. We've been

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Speaker 1: talking about Kyrie Irving indoors for basketball, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: he scored sixty points in Orlando last night. But this

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Speaker 1: is next level crazy. But let's start Buck down. In

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Speaker 1: the state of Florida, rond de Santis, it was labeled

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Speaker 1: that don't say gay Bill. This morning, I'm reading as

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Speaker 1: I get ready for the show. Buck and Politico came

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Speaker 1: out with a poll that fifty one percent of American

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Speaker 1: voters support banning the teaching of sexual orientation and gender

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Speaker 1: identity from kindergartener kindergarten through third grade. Thirty five percent

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Speaker 1: are opposed to this. All right, this is pretty massive.

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Speaker 1: When you are in a fifty fifty country and you

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Speaker 1: find an issue that you're winning by sixteen points. It

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Speaker 1: doesn't surprise me because we talked about this, Buck, I'm

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Speaker 1: a parent, talked to a lot of parents. I don't

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Speaker 1: know very many parents who believe kindergartener, first second third

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Speaker 1: graders should be being taught substantially about sexual identity. It

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Speaker 1: really sex at all. Were you surprise by this politico

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Speaker 1: finding and what does it continue to tell us about

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Speaker 1: how out of touch many journalists are who cover politics. Well,

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Speaker 1: it's it's fascinating Clay, because it seemed like in the

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Speaker 1: early days of this, the activists, the LGBTQ activist who

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Speaker 1: were pushing for this to be essentially slandered as they

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Speaker 1: don't say gay bill, they came up with this phrase.

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Speaker 1: It's like when you call something either say it's a

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Speaker 1: it's not a wealth tax, it's the death tax. Right.

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Speaker 1: This is classic politics orwelly in changing of words news speak,

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Speaker 1: trying to figure out ways to move the needle one

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Speaker 1: way or another based on the very specific words that

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Speaker 1: you use. So it seemed like this was under substantial

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Speaker 1: undersubstantial pressure because all the press was asking descend and

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Speaker 1: what happened? I think Clay, I think the activist would

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Speaker 1: have been more successful with this one at the Florida

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Speaker 1: state level if it didn't turn into a club for

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Speaker 1: the live media to start swinging at. Descend just with

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Speaker 1: right away, because what happened. De Santists, unlike a lot

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Speaker 1: of other Republicans, say oh, I'm not I'm not anti gay,

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Speaker 1: don't hate me, right, which you know this has nothing

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Speaker 1: to do with being anti gay. Rhonda Santist goes, where

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Speaker 1: is that in the bill? Right? Remember that audio? We

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Speaker 1: played it for everybody. He says, where is that? Show

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Speaker 1: me where that is? Why are you calling? Why are

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Speaker 1: you renaming a bill as a so called journalists something

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Speaker 1: that it is not, so that you're going to attack

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Speaker 1: the bill with something that is a lie. And then

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Speaker 1: when ever, and everyone goes, oh, wait, hold on a second,

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Speaker 1: they're attacking De Santis on this. Now it's a national

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Speaker 1: news store. This was gonna be clay. Let's be honest.

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Speaker 1: Who had even heard of the Parental Rights and Education

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Speaker 1: Bill outside of Florida? Across the very few people, right,

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Speaker 1: maybe Floridians it mattered too, but to rest the country,

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Speaker 1: it was all right, this is a Florida state bill.

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Speaker 1: And now it's become a national cause. And now you

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Speaker 1: have people saying, hold on a second, what do you mean?

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Speaker 1: These left wing activists are are upset that there's not

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Speaker 1: gender identity instruction happening. For first raiders. I mean, as

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Speaker 1: I said before, a first grader may say, you know, um,

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Speaker 1: you know, one day I want to be an astronaut

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Speaker 1: and the next day I want to be a stegosaurus.

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Speaker 1: And you know, you gotta just like, let kids be kids. Here.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna start teaching about cis, gender and gender queer,

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Speaker 1: which is another phrase that I had to learn recently.

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Speaker 1: I didn't even know what this means, and all these

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Speaker 1: other terms in terminology. Now you might say, oh, buck,

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Speaker 1: they won't really do that. They just had a school

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Speaker 1: in San Antonio and the critical a race theory front

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Speaker 1: where they were saying they they were separating kids by

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Speaker 1: hair color and the lightest kids by a hair color

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Speaker 1: were to be you know, mistreated and told they were

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Speaker 1: dumber and worse than the rest of the kids in

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Speaker 1: the class to teach them about inequity in society. These

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Speaker 1: left wing activist bureaucrats are lunatics. And when parents find

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Speaker 1: out about this, they go, um, no, actually, I just

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Speaker 1: want what parents by the way, across across socioeconomic and

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Speaker 1: racial strata, they're just saying, no, I just want my

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Speaker 1: kids to be you know, learning how to spell and

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Speaker 1: do math and behave themselves in class. I don't want

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Speaker 1: them being taught this, particularly in the first and second grade.

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Speaker 1: The right once again has an opportunity here. Conservatives have

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Speaker 1: an opportunity to not just be the party of parental

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Speaker 1: rights and education, to be the party of normal people. Yes,

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Speaker 1: to be the party of you know, we're not crazy, Like,

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Speaker 1: what is this stuff? Buck? I had a conversation with

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Speaker 1: my wife recently where I said, it disappoints me how

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Speaker 1: few people can't jbn's what's JBN say, it's my acronym.

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Speaker 1: Just be normal, Just be normal. Normal parents do not

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Speaker 1: want their kids to be taught sexual related instruction in kindergarten, first, second,

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Speaker 1: third grade. And I got to give a lot of

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Speaker 1: credit to Ronda Santis because not only did he fight

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Speaker 1: back as soon as this bill got attacked, but Buck,

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Speaker 1: he actually went to war are with Disney? Do you

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Speaker 1: remember that? Because Disney tried to come out and say, oh,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna take potshots at Rhonda Santis in the state

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Speaker 1: of Florida. And most of the time politicians curl up

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Speaker 1: in the fetal position and they try to avoid these battles.

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Speaker 1: But this is a great example of why I think

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Speaker 1: Rhonda Santis is being way smarter than his critics, because

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Speaker 1: so often the Blue Check Brigade members, the blue check

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Speaker 1: journos as you like to call them, they don't have

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Speaker 1: the sense of what the real world is like, and

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Speaker 1: as a result, they think the real world is Twitter,

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Speaker 1: The reality is exactly opposite. You know. Twitter is a

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Speaker 1: moment where we can see a pathway to getting people

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Speaker 1: left wing bureaucracies that teach this and as some of

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Speaker 1: theory as what's behind it, and they make them do

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Speaker 1: And by the way, should we tee off on Mitt

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Speaker 1: Let's let's come back and give Are you as angry

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Speaker 1: And I look, I will say it, man, I still

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Speaker 1: back then. Yes, Clay, let's let's get into this. Shall

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