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Speaker 1: Welcome to the drive. I am Dale Lalli. He is

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. And well it's a victory Friday.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, see that.

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Speaker 1: You don't get to say that one very often. But

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Speaker 1: the Steelers go out. They beat the Tennessee Titans twenty

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Speaker 1: to sixteen on Thursday night before a pretty rock and crowd.

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Speaker 1: Last night.

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Speaker 2: It sure seemed like it. Yeah, I mean it was.

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Speaker 2: They were pretty lubed up, the weather wasn't nearly as

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Speaker 2: bad as many people thought it was going to be,

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Speaker 2: and it's beautiful here today. All of a sudden, sounds

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Speaker 2: like we got a good weekend and get to win.

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Speaker 1: And they gotta win. Yeah. Probably again not as easy

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Speaker 1: as some people would have liked. But that was a

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Speaker 1: weird game.

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Speaker 2: They're all weird.

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Speaker 1: It felt to me like it was almost like I

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Speaker 1: was watching a repeat of I watched the entire Titans

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Speaker 1: game against the Atlanta game, the Atlanta game, I watched

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Speaker 1: them all I can watch them against Baltimore. Mike pursued

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Speaker 1: and I were talking about it after the game. He said,

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Speaker 1: I don't understand how that game was close, And you know,

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Speaker 1: he said, it felt like the entire game the Steelers

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Speaker 1: were in control.

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Speaker 2: I'm like, why are the Steelers losing here? You know? Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I said.

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Speaker 1: Well, here's the thing. You might have the two head

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Speaker 1: coaches in the league in this game who know how

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Speaker 1: to muck it up better than anybody else.

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Speaker 2: I would say, it's like that Spider Man meme where

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Speaker 2: they're looking at each other, you know, like these two

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Speaker 2: are the exact same there. They see the game the

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Speaker 2: same way. They're both high end coaches. They get a

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Speaker 2: lot out of a little but they play a certain way. Yeah, especially,

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Speaker 2: I mean neither one of them has Pat Holmes either,

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Speaker 2: you know, I mean it might play different. Tomlin did

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Speaker 2: play different, by the way, when he had been in

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Speaker 2: Brown and Bell. Oh yeah, this isn't like the DNA

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Speaker 2: and that's the only way he knows how, But how

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Speaker 2: they've been playing lately, I thought the same thing. I'm like,

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Speaker 2: these head coaches could play this game one hundred times

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Speaker 2: and probably never get to forty points.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, both both offenses play slow. There weren't

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Speaker 1: a ton of plays in the game. They both were

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Speaker 1: willing to just run the football if that's you know,

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Speaker 1: if that's what they were capable of doing. Sure, you know,

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Speaker 1: his ball.

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Speaker 2: Controls and ye stuff like that as well, and Jill position.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, punting, and you know there were people I was

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Speaker 1: listening on a drive last night home last night and

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Speaker 1: I went, I went home and wrote after the game.

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Speaker 1: I didn't want to be hanging out at the stadium

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Speaker 1: until three thirty in the morning. Uh, So I went.

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Speaker 1: I went home and wrote my my ten thoughts after

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Speaker 1: the game. People killing the Steelers and even on the

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Speaker 1: broadcaster we're talking about was Matt Canada going to take

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Speaker 1: a chance here with him? Steel's get the ball back

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Speaker 1: on the UF. They stopped the Titans on downs in

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Speaker 1: the game. That's just before the two minute uh by

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Speaker 1: the end of the game there, yeah, yeah, just before

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Speaker 1: the two minute warning. And I'm like, I a Mike

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Speaker 1: Toman was trusting his defense in that situation.

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Speaker 2: Should be. I don't think I had anything to do

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Speaker 2: with Mac Canada. It could have been me or you

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Speaker 2: or whoever the play caller was. I think coach Tom was.

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Speaker 1: Saying, that's a Tomlin decision, right, But you're playing the

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Speaker 1: odds there because you got the ball midfield. They're going

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Speaker 1: to have to burn two of their three timeouts and

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Speaker 1: then you're gonna tell a rookie quarterback to drive the link,

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Speaker 1: to drive the link to the field, not needing a

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Speaker 2: No, I had no problem with it either.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way to play it. The odds.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what the the all the odds say on.

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Speaker 2: You know, yea, the analytics, the analytics stuff.

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Speaker 1: The right move to make was to do what they

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Speaker 2: I thought so too, especially the way the defense was playing.

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Speaker 2: I mean, there's so many things to take away from

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Speaker 2: that game. We'll get to but new Hopkins wasn't hurting

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Speaker 2: a pumpkin can beat you with Westbrook, a Keene and

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Speaker 2: I mean? Right with one time and one time out

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Speaker 2: and you know that in that situation that we always

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Speaker 2: want to see the Steelers in where Watt and high

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Speaker 2: Smith can tee up, you know and come after you.

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Speaker 2: So be it. If you can win that game, then

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Speaker 2: I can live with that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, So I didn't have a problem with finished the

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Speaker 1: game off in that fashion. But it also showed, you know,

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Speaker 1: so that the faith and the defense that you know

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Speaker 1: is gonna have to adjust some things here. The Steelers

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Speaker 1: didn't place Maka Fitzpatrick on IR, which is a good sign.

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Speaker 1: That tells me that they expect him back, if not

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Speaker 1: this next week against Green Bay, certainly when they go

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Speaker 1: with the back to back games in Ohio. But you

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Speaker 1: got Cam Hayward back, you lose.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm sure there was some talk about, well, you

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Speaker 2: probably didn't watch the game. You were there, of course,

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Speaker 2: but when you know, they always interview the head coach,

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Speaker 2: one goes in on the way into half an out

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Speaker 2: or whatever. Tomlin said the word defense, He said communication

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Speaker 2: like seven times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And it was after the Wholcumb injury, of course, and

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Speaker 2: without Mica, and there could have been a lot worse

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Speaker 2: in my opinion, in terms of communication and getting all

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Speaker 2: And not that Alexander and that crew aren't capable, but

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Speaker 2: you lose your two most important spokesman communicator.

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Speaker 1: Well, the guys who relay everything to everybody.

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Speaker 2: Every snap, right, but hol comes a loss for sure.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. That being said again, I thought land and Roberts

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Speaker 1: Kawant Alexander thet they were one of the ways that

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Speaker 1: they kind of gum things up for DeAndre Hopkins because

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Speaker 1: he's he is so physical at the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 2: Really is it's a good point.

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Speaker 1: They're putting a linebacker over top of him, put the

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Speaker 2: I mean talking about really taking a guy out. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean you're really dedicating a lot of resources to

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Speaker 2: I mean clearly and made all all the sense in

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Speaker 1: Right, Yeah, just okay, we're gonna put this line. We're

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Speaker 1: beat him off the line of scrimmage, and then we

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, getting off press man coverage is in art.

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Speaker 2: It's a lot like a past rush to me, But

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Speaker 2: that's like pass rushing against the offensive tackle that's four

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Speaker 2: a totally different beast than what you're used to.

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Speaker 1: So, you know, the Steelers do get to win, they

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Speaker 1: get to five and three, and I'm sure you've seen

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Speaker 1: the statistic thrown out there, but the Steelers the first

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Speaker 1: team since nineteen thirty two to win their first eight

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: The thing is, they were out gaining the Titans until

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Speaker 1: that last drive. There was there were some empty there

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Speaker 1: were some empty calories there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: so you're willing to trade to trade you know, ten

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Speaker 2: Oh right, right, No, I didn't realize that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the total yards ended up three forty to three

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Speaker 2: A lot of the stats were almost identical. The halftime

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Speaker 2: a couple of things were really encouraging. Was the halftime

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Speaker 2: being almost even when it was all said and done.

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Speaker 2: The Steelers ran the ball or like five point five

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Speaker 2: so I thought it was not a tail two halves,

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Speaker 2: cause I thought the Steelers played quite well in the

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Speaker 2: first half and the first drive was really good. But

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Speaker 2: at least they cut down on the penalties. They cut

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Speaker 2: down on Hopkins hurting you so bad in the first half.

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Speaker 2: Not that he killed you, but I mean he vanished

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Speaker 1: So yeah, completely, just yeah. So the Titans had one

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Speaker 1: they got a big chunk of that on the field

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Speaker 1: goal drive, at fifty seven yards. Of that came on

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Speaker 2: In prevent you all that, right, So it's not even

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Speaker 2: the penalties the Steelers game on top of that.

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Speaker 1: Right right, that was that was you know, you can't

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Speaker 1: do that. No, But I thought the defense played pretty well.

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Speaker 1: I thought the offense moved the ball efficiently. They had

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Speaker 1: Those were the So I put this in my ten thoughts.

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Speaker 1: I went back through the game. They averaged about five

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Speaker 2: Yeah, first down early down offense was much better.

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Speaker 1: The two times they went three and out in the

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Speaker 1: first half, they had two yard games on first half

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Speaker 1: on first down, I should say, other than I mean,

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Speaker 1: they were just even if they had an incompletion where

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Speaker 1: something got stopped on first down. Other than those two drives,

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Speaker 1: they were just you know, they only had twelve third

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they were six to twelve.

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Speaker 1: They were getting chunks on first down and then converting

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Speaker 2: Yep, And that's so important. I mean, I'm a big

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Speaker 2: you don't want to get the third down. And we've

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Speaker 2: had this conversation a lot. But when I always look

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Speaker 2: at third down that you said six out of twelve,

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Speaker 2: I'm more interested in the twelve. The demin keeping that

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Speaker 2: number low. Keep that number low, like what percentage of

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Speaker 2: your plays were on third down. Obviously you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: a big number if you run eighty plays or whatever.

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Speaker 2: But keeping that number low is the key to success

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Speaker 2: and moving to the football in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: So when you look at it, you know, in terms

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Speaker 1: of the uh, you know, the Steelers have twenty two

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Speaker 1: first downs the Titans have twenty three. The Titans got

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Speaker 1: six of their first downs via penalty.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the first drive was the first driver was four

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Speaker 1: You know, you just can't can't do those kind of things.

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Speaker 2: And it would be different. Like penalties matter too. There's

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Speaker 2: penalties for a reason. But if it's like an offensive

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Speaker 2: you dragged down Hopkins because he ran past you, well

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Speaker 2: Now, this is a good one. I mean, I think

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Speaker 1: To Oh my goodness, they haven't run the ball like

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Speaker 2: They did, and both backs were very solid contributors. They

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Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lallie. You're listening to

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Speaker 1: with more right after this. Welcome back on Dale Lalli.

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Speaker 1: He is the Matt Williamson. And Matt. One of the

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Speaker 2: knowledge at that point. But man, I'm not a big

438
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Speaker 2: believer in right tackles have to do this like left

439
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Speaker 2: tackles have to do that. But his run blocking, he

440
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Speaker 2: looks like it looks like old school right now.

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Speaker 1: The other thing is I think you could the left

442
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Speaker 1: right thing doesn't matter as much does in terms of

443
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Speaker 1: who you're going to face anymore.

444
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Speaker 2: A lot of a lot of these guys crazy.

445
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Speaker 1: So you're going to see a lot of premium pass

446
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Speaker 1: rushers on over the right tackle.

447
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Speaker 2: Also, I dodn't think it'd be comfortable.

448
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Speaker 1: Then most offenses are their strong side is the right side,

449
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Speaker 1: so it's easier to help him over there.

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Speaker 2: True. True, I mean you'd rather have the tight end

451
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Speaker 2: on that side.

452
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Speaker 1: That's where you want your tight end. That so, okay,

453
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Speaker 1: that makes that easier process. I asked him last night,

454
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Speaker 1: I'm like, when was the last time you played right tackle?

455
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Speaker 1: And he said he had played at some in college. Okay,

456
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Speaker 1: he played his freshman year at Georgia he played right tackle, so.

457
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Speaker 2: And in practice and all that. So yeah, it makes sense.

458
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Speaker 1: But he's a hell of an athlete.

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Speaker 2: It crossed my mind and I even hesitate to bring

460
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Speaker 2: this up, but I thought maybe he has a couple

461
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Speaker 2: of bad habits at left tackle that they just want

462
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Speaker 2: to see the world in a different way, you know.

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Speaker 2: And I thought he played great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean his well, the game set up nicely

465
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Speaker 1: for him because they were just able to keep running

466
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Speaker 1: the football.

467
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Speaker 2: And that's his bag. But boy, he might be their

468
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Speaker 2: best round blocker now. I mean he gets to the

469
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Speaker 2: second level and his quickness, I mean he looks like

470
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Speaker 2: a first round pick coming out of his stance.

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Speaker 1: And I got no problem keeping him there.

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Speaker 2: I don't care where he he needs to be on

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Speaker 2: the field just right.

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Speaker 1: I think I thought he looked better at right tackle

475
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Speaker 1: than he did left tackle.

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Speaker 2: I agree. I thought that was his bast game, and

477
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Speaker 2: I thought his second game was really good too.

478
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Speaker 1: Yeah, but I just think that's his skill set.

479
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Speaker 2: He seems like the.

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Speaker 1: Right just works it. Right tack now, because you know

481
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Speaker 1: you can do some of those things. You get him

482
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Speaker 1: out on the edge, you can like, Okay.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm a fan.

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Speaker 1: I thought usually your left tankle was more, your left

485
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Speaker 1: tackles more anchored. He's just there, you know, protecting the

486
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Speaker 1: blind Sufwhere is that right side? You can just okay,

487
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Speaker 1: you can get out in freelance a little bit. Yeah,

488
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Speaker 1: you seem to get the second level as a run blocker.

489
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Speaker 1: But no, I thought he played really, really well. And

490
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Speaker 1: sorry Chookes, but I think you get benched. Yeah, I mean,

491
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Speaker 1: I think you're the you're the swing guy now. I

492
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Speaker 1: also I also thought that, you know, I'm border played

493
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Speaker 1: a ton of obviously, but with Montrevius Adams out, yes,

494
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Speaker 1: we saw a lot more.

495
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Speaker 2: Keanu Benton definitely his highest snap count of the year,

496
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Speaker 2: which I've been hoping for all along. But they're slow

497
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Speaker 2: to bring along. They don't just throw him in the

498
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Speaker 2: deep end, and they gotta kind of trying to win games.

499
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Speaker 2: And there's a seventeen game schedule and these guys have

500
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Speaker 2: never played seventeen games. Nobody thinks about that, but rookie

501
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Speaker 2: Walls matter. I thought Benton was great in this game. Yeah,

502
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Speaker 2: I mean he pushed the pocket a lot. I think

503
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Speaker 2: it was a high Smith sack that Benton really made happen, because.

504
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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, he forced it, you know, right up in

505
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Speaker 1: the high Smith, who again had a monster game that

506
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Speaker 1: he just destroyed.

507
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Speaker 2: Oh. I almost felt bad for the Titans in terms.

508
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Speaker 1: There was a stretch there of about eight or nine

509
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Speaker 1: plays where they had an offensive lineman going down every

510
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Speaker 1: time every time.

511
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Speaker 2: I'm trying to find it. But only it was one

512
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Speaker 2: of their guards. Where is it? They're only anyway, Only

513
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Speaker 2: one of their offensive linemen played every snap.

514
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Speaker 1: Is it the center?

515
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Speaker 2: I'll find it here.

516
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Speaker 1: That was the center.

517
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the center. He's the only one that played.

518
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Speaker 1: Everything. Everybody around him was just chaos.

519
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Speaker 2: It was just it was time and time again. And

520
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Speaker 2: none of them are really good to begin with, right, Yeah, Scorronsky,

521
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Speaker 2: who I thought was their best guy, a tough day.

522
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Speaker 1: They had to put the kid from Maryland on the field.

523
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 2: Though, Duncan Dunky, yeah, man, And yes, the rest called

524
00:23:05,680 --> 00:23:07,120
Speaker 2: called a lot of threw a lot of flags.

525
00:23:08,200 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: Yes they could.

526
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Speaker 2: They were being a little kind of the battered Titans

527
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:14,960
Speaker 2: O line. And you know how the NFL calm does

528
00:23:14,960 --> 00:23:17,440
Speaker 2: are right up and the next gen stat of the game.

529
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Speaker 2: He was pressured on like forty nine. Oh yeah, it

530
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Speaker 2: was just and he handled it well. I mean I

531
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Speaker 2: thought he stood.

532
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Speaker 1: He stood in there and he threw the ball and

533
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Speaker 1: I don't know how he got rid of some of them. Yeah,

534
00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,000
Speaker 1: but there were a couple of times where he just

535
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Speaker 1: threw it up. Oh, yeah, yeah, I mean, he just

536
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Speaker 1: throw it up on my hand, right, I'm gonna take

537
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Speaker 1: a big hit here. I'm just gonna throw it up

538
00:23:35,920 --> 00:23:36,320
Speaker 1: and hope.

539
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Speaker 2: But Benton was a big reason why. Yeah, back to

540
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Speaker 2: the rookie thing. I thought Benton played really well, I think,

541
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Speaker 2: and it kind of gave me a little tingly spine

542
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Speaker 2: to see a four man line of Cam Benton and

543
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Speaker 2: those two edge guys.

544
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Speaker 1: Like now you're talking, yeah, Now, now you got something.

545
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Speaker 2: Like I like Ogin Joby, but I think less Ogan

546
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Speaker 2: Joby's more Ogreen Joby, you know, Like I don't think

547
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Speaker 2: stamina is his strength, like Tim Ben's always jokes and

548
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Speaker 2: he's the best first quarter defensive tackle and league. But

549
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Speaker 2: if you could keep him fresh and give him cut

550
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Speaker 2: his snapcount in half because of Benton, Now you're talking.

551
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, yeah, absolutely so the rookie class. There was

552
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Speaker 1: also some times late in the game where they brought

553
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Speaker 1: in her big, put him on the outside and rush

554
00:24:16,040 --> 00:24:16,800
Speaker 1: want from the middle.

555
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Speaker 2: Yeah. I also wanted to call out Washington too, because

556
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Speaker 2: it seemed like he had been falling out of favor

557
00:24:22,280 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 2: a little bit. He caught one pass, but his snapcount

558
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Speaker 2: went way way up again.

559
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Speaker 1: This was again, they ran the football in this game. Yeah,

560
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Speaker 1: you know, so when they run the football, he's going

561
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Speaker 1: to be on the field a lot. Whether people want

562
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Speaker 1: to like it's he's Zach gent He's a better version

563
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Speaker 1: of Zach Gentry.

564
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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's his role. They want to upgrade that guy,

565
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Speaker 2: you know, Gentry was I always said this last year,

566
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Speaker 2: Gentry is too easy to play against it. And after

567
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Speaker 2: the Claypool trade, he's out there a lot, and I

568
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Speaker 2: think the defense says, thanks, I'll play against that guy.

569
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Speaker 2: I mean, and now if this guy has the same role,

570
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Speaker 2: but he's better, younger, cheaper, more talented, Okay.

571
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Speaker 1: Yeah he got something. So yeah, the rookie class showed

572
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Speaker 1: up in a big way here, and then you know

573
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Speaker 1: you add in the fact that you were able to

574
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Speaker 1: get uh you know, some snaps out of the way

575
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Speaker 1: for the rush.

576
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Speaker 2: Yeah, a rookie, I mean, he is a rookie, but yeah,

577
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Speaker 2: he's a rookie.

578
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Speaker 1: He's part of this rookie class now as well. So, yeah,

579
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Speaker 1: a big game for the rookie class. You're heading into

580
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Speaker 1: the second half. It's time for those guys. They're no

581
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Speaker 1: longer rookies. Now you've got eight games under your belt.

582
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Speaker 2: Nice long break for them now too. And okay, you

583
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Speaker 2: guys are going to be I assume Jones and Porter

584
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Speaker 2: are starters.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would. I can't imagine that changes. Yeah, so

586
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Speaker 1: that'll be it, and uh, you know, moving forward ideally,

587
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: but we're gonna get to another break. He is Matt Williamson.

588
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Speaker 1: I am Dale, Lolly. We'll be back here to finish

589
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Speaker 1: up the first hour right after this. Welcome back to

590
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Speaker 1: the drive. I am Dale Lolly. He is the Matt

591
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Speaker 1: Williamson and Matt the Steelers. With their win, h well,

592
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Speaker 1: they get the five and three. They're now just a

593
00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:55,440
Speaker 1: game behind the Baltimore Ravens in the AFS and we're

594
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Speaker 1: standings heading into Sunday's games. Of course, the Ravens host

595
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Speaker 1: the Seahawks game. They're a half game ahead of Cleveland

596
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 1: and Cincinnati. They can all get to five and three

597
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: with a win, or go to four and four with losses,

598
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Speaker 1: Cleveland playing Arizona and Cincinnati hosting the Buffalo Bills. I

599
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:22,600
Speaker 1: kind of feel like all four AFC North teams will

600
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Speaker 1: win this week.

601
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Speaker 2: I mean, Bill's Bengals is a tough one. I mean

602
00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:30,480
Speaker 2: that's like a two point spread. I mean Arizona's in Cleveland.

603
00:26:30,840 --> 00:26:32,359
Speaker 2: I don't know if it'll be Kyler or not. It

604
00:26:32,400 --> 00:26:32,800
Speaker 2: sounds like.

605
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Speaker 1: They've announced it. Yeah, they've didn't announced that Sean Watson's

606
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Speaker 1: going to start.

607
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 2: That's a game they should win. Though.

608
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Speaker 1: The fact that the Cardinals are taking this into the

609
00:26:42,200 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 1: word is here that Jonathan Gann and their head coach,

610
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Speaker 1: he's going to make a decision tonight or early tomorrow

611
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Speaker 1: about who's going to start, the fact that he's taking

612
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Speaker 1: it this laid into this tells me probably going to

613
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Speaker 1: be Kyler Murray.

614
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Speaker 2: I've kind of thought all along, must to be Kyler Murray.

615
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Speaker 2: I mean, it's been two full weeks he's had his

616
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Speaker 2: window open. Yeah, if you're gonna, I haven't seen.

617
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:03,919
Speaker 1: They haven't listened them on the on their injury report

618
00:27:03,960 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: at all, Like, so you know he's been practicing in full.

619
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it says like he's fine from what you're reading

620
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:10,639
Speaker 2: practice reports.

621
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Speaker 1: I mean, at this point, what are you waiting for?

622
00:27:12,359 --> 00:27:14,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, if you're gonna activate him, if you're gonn open

623
00:27:14,200 --> 00:27:17,760
Speaker 2: his window, activate them. Right. It seems very rare that

624
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:21,159
Speaker 2: people open a window and then it gets closed, you

625
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 2: know what I mean.

626
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,440
Speaker 1: Like I think when they when they traded Josh Dobbs.

627
00:27:24,480 --> 00:27:26,240
Speaker 1: They're kind of telling us, say, we're gonna start kyling.

628
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480
Speaker 1: You're not gonna do You're not gonna throw Clayton tune

629
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Speaker 1: out there to the Dogs.

630
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Speaker 2: Unless you're just really trying to lose. They have the

631
00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:34,879
Speaker 2: first pick right now. I mean, I can't imagine that's

632
00:27:34,920 --> 00:27:35,600
Speaker 2: what they're doing though.

633
00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 1: Yeah.

634
00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,119
Speaker 2: Uh, and then they don't think they win.

635
00:27:38,080 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 1: The game with the Ravens. You want to talk about

636
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:47,159
Speaker 1: teams that, there's not a ton of difference between what

637
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Speaker 1: the Ravens are doing. For the most part, they blew okay,

638
00:27:49,040 --> 00:27:50,080
Speaker 1: they bleue Detroit out.

639
00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:51,280
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah.

640
00:27:51,359 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 1: Outside of that, what have they really done that's been

641
00:27:54,960 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: super impressive?

642
00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,680
Speaker 2: No, I mean, their numbers are a lot better the defenses.

643
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 2: I get a stymy people, and they're not getting out

644
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 2: scored or out out yardages and stuff with that nature.

645
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:07,840
Speaker 2: But I don't think they're a powerhouse. No.

646
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,280
Speaker 1: Like when we did power rankings only in the week

647
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:13,080
Speaker 1: and they were two. That's not the second best team

648
00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:13,520
Speaker 1: in the league.

649
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Speaker 2: I've had a couple of people saying that maybe they

650
00:28:15,119 --> 00:28:17,560
Speaker 2: should be one. I mean, listening to podcast, like, I

651
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:20,360
Speaker 2: don't think I think they're the best to Tier two

652
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: team out there. You know, like I think I think

653
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:23,879
Speaker 2: the Bengals are better than they are.

654
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,440
Speaker 1: I do too.

655
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Speaker 2: Right now, I don't know what the record is. I'm like,

656
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Speaker 2: if they played, I think the Bengals are the better team. Yeah,

657
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,680
Speaker 2: so you know, I don't know see North bias, right,

658
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,080
Speaker 2: I'm just not super impressed with them.

659
00:28:35,240 --> 00:28:37,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll give them credit. They're they're playing better

660
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: than I thought.

661
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:38,960
Speaker 2: They would defense.

662
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:42,040
Speaker 1: I thought this season would be bad training camp.

663
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:47,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, I don't know, it's like their division to lose.

664
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 1: No, I don't know that type of so. But if

665
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 1: if everybody holds suit this week again and so the

666
00:28:53,640 --> 00:28:55,520
Speaker 1: Ravens get, we get to seven and two, the Steelers

667
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 1: are at five and three. The Browns and Bengals would also

668
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:02,920
Speaker 1: be at five and three. Assuming that happens, that means

669
00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo lost and would be five and four with a

670
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 1: fourth conference loss.

671
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: They're being big trouble.

672
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: They'd be in big trouble.

673
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:10,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

674
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,680
Speaker 1: We had this discussion on the on the pregame show

675
00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 1: yesterday and Tim benswell, I think the the AFC North

676
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 1: gets three teams in the into the playoffs, and that

677
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: you see the other two teams come out of the

678
00:29:21,880 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 1: a FC East. I'm like, don't don't say. I mean,

679
00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:27,960
Speaker 1: so if if again.

680
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 2: I think Miami is going to lose the Kansas City.

681
00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:34,479
Speaker 1: The loser of the Bengals Bills game, Yeah, we'll have

682
00:29:34,560 --> 00:29:35,600
Speaker 1: four conference losses.

683
00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:38,200
Speaker 2: They both do. That's a huge, big hole to start

684
00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 2: the season.

685
00:29:38,800 --> 00:29:41,640
Speaker 1: Like you, you almost can't lose another conference game the

686
00:29:41,640 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: rest of the.

687
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: Way, right, No, that's that's huge. I mean, and they

688
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: both have very difficult schedules going forward to I mean

689
00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 2: some of their easy ones are out of the way.

690
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:53,840
Speaker 2: You do think since he wins that game, I mean I.

691
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: Do, I think you're playing better right now?

692
00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think that's the easily the one that's

693
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 2: the best chance to not be AFC North winning.

694
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean, I could see Josh Allen putting on this

695
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,840
Speaker 1: the superman, you know, cape and going out and winning

696
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 1: that game. If if somehow Seattle We're able to pull

697
00:30:11,640 --> 00:30:15,200
Speaker 1: off the upset, everybody in the everybody in the AFC

698
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: North would be in within a half game of first place,

699
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:18,800
Speaker 1: and they'd all have three losses.

700
00:30:18,960 --> 00:30:21,720
Speaker 2: Yeah. I still have a lot of faith in Cleveland,

701
00:30:21,880 --> 00:30:22,840
Speaker 2: but I.

702
00:30:22,840 --> 00:30:24,959
Speaker 1: Don't have it. I don't have any faith in Cleveland.

703
00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:26,760
Speaker 1: I think that. I think that's the I think they're

704
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:27,560
Speaker 1: going to finish last.

705
00:30:28,040 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 2: I do too. I don't think they can lose the Arizona.

706
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:33,680
Speaker 2: But we were looking at the spreads and stuff on

707
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 2: the podcast today, I was like eight and a half.

708
00:30:35,440 --> 00:30:36,040
Speaker 2: I'll take the point.

709
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,040
Speaker 1: That's a lot of point.

710
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,520
Speaker 2: I mean, should over a touchdown for a team.

711
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:43,640
Speaker 1: That really has has had trouble scoring, Say the offense

712
00:30:43,720 --> 00:30:47,120
Speaker 1: is in now, they might, you know, if it's it's

713
00:30:47,120 --> 00:30:49,440
Speaker 1: tough to pick that with Clayton Tune. If Clayton Tune

714
00:30:49,480 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 1: does course, they may get a defensive score just.

715
00:30:51,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 2: Because I mean I said it with thoughts that Kyler

716
00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 2: is going to come back and be rusty. Yeah, you know,

717
00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:57,840
Speaker 2: but I also know Watson's going to be there, and

718
00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 2: I don't know that's good thing.

719
00:30:58,680 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, is he going to be you know crisp,

720
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:01,400
Speaker 1: I don't think so.

721
00:31:01,440 --> 00:31:02,320
Speaker 2: I would lean towards no.

722
00:31:02,880 --> 00:31:05,520
Speaker 1: So looking at that Brown's schedule, they get the Cardinals

723
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,840
Speaker 1: this week, next week at Baltimore.

724
00:31:08,920 --> 00:31:11,240
Speaker 2: Big game, big game, I mean, all these North games

725
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:12,040
Speaker 2: are gonna be huge.

726
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:16,400
Speaker 1: Then they host the Steelers, Okay, then they're at the Broncos.

727
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 2: At the Rams, played a little better lately, Like their

728
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:20,840
Speaker 2: defense isn't a joke.

729
00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:21,480
Speaker 1: Never good.

730
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,480
Speaker 2: Going to Denver, Going to Denver's tough at the.

731
00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:29,480
Speaker 1: Rams, Jaguars at home, Bears at home at the Texans,

732
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: Jets at home at the Bengals.

733
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 2: There's some easy ones on there. I mean, you got Cardinals,

734
00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:35,400
Speaker 2: you got Bears.

735
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 1: They got three losses. Now I can see at least

736
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: three or four more on there.

737
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:39,920
Speaker 2: I know. Yeah, there's a couple of tough ones.

738
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: Yeah, vision games, and they'll lose. They'll lose games you're

739
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 1: not supposed to lose.

740
00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:47,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just what the Browns doing. Jacksonville's better than

741
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:50,840
Speaker 2: they are. Oh yeah, they.

742
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,320
Speaker 1: Could easily lose to the Jets.

743
00:31:51,720 --> 00:31:53,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, that could be first one to ten.

744
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:54,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, a yeah.

745
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:56,280
Speaker 2: I don't want to think of the Rams though, I

746
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 2: heard saw them on the schedules, Like I don't think

747
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: Stafford's going to play this week. Well, by the time

748
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:03,040
Speaker 2: that's then they might be out of the woods.

749
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 1: A month down the road here. I mean, I would

750
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: assume they want to play him. I don't want to lose,

751
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: you know.

752
00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:09,720
Speaker 2: Oh, I'd assume they want to play. And I don't

753
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 2: think they're tank tanking or anything.

754
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 1: No, I mean they can't get the number one pick

755
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,719
Speaker 1: or anything like that, so that's out the window. So

756
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: I just look at this race and I look at

757
00:32:21,200 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: the rest of the AFC here. I don't think the

758
00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: Chargers are No.

759
00:32:26,680 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 2: They have they put Monday Night against the Jets. You

760
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:31,960
Speaker 2: would think they win that one, and maybe they have

761
00:32:32,040 --> 00:32:33,880
Speaker 2: a little bit of momentum. But I don't trust the

762
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: Chargers very much either.

763
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:37,959
Speaker 1: Well, I mean, ideally the Jets are sitting there at

764
00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 1: four and three. Okay, one of those teams is getting a.

765
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:43,880
Speaker 2: Loss, right you know, right now, and the other one

766
00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:46,320
Speaker 2: gets a nice boost actually with the conference win.

767
00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:48,960
Speaker 1: But right now that the Chargers are one and three

768
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:50,760
Speaker 1: in conference, the Jets are two and two.

769
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:54,520
Speaker 2: Okay, So what's the Colts in conference? I don't think

770
00:32:54,520 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 2: they're a playoff team, But if anyone else came out

771
00:32:56,680 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 2: of the South, I would say the Colts.

772
00:32:57,960 --> 00:32:58,960
Speaker 1: They're three and three.

773
00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:02,480
Speaker 2: In the conference. Yeah, well the six conference, yeah, okay,

774
00:33:02,720 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 2: So I don't view that more of the Jets as

775
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:05,280
Speaker 2: they playoff contentment.

776
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:08,680
Speaker 1: I don't think the Texans are either. No, do either,

777
00:33:08,840 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: But I mean, so the Colts are at the Panthers

778
00:33:12,520 --> 00:33:14,760
Speaker 1: this week, then they get the Patriots, then they host

779
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:18,200
Speaker 1: the Buccaneers. They could win a few though, at the Titans,

780
00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 1: at the Bengals, Steelers at home, at the Falcons, Raiders,

781
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 1: and then Texans.

782
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:25,960
Speaker 2: This next month is pretty nice for them though. Yeah,

783
00:33:25,960 --> 00:33:28,080
Speaker 2: they could build some momentum. I think they're limited.

784
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: I don't trust them though, No.

785
00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:31,840
Speaker 2: I don't think they have a high ceiling. Yeah, but

786
00:33:32,600 --> 00:33:34,440
Speaker 2: what since he schedule? Because I know it's tough.

787
00:33:35,000 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean this, well, last week started off to

788
00:33:37,680 --> 00:33:40,040
Speaker 1: kicked it off, you know, with the game against the

789
00:33:40,080 --> 00:33:42,440
Speaker 1: forty nine ers. Then they play the Bills at home,

790
00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:45,760
Speaker 1: They get the Texans at home at the Ravens. This

791
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:48,680
Speaker 1: is the interesting part of this. So both Ohio teams

792
00:33:50,080 --> 00:33:52,840
Speaker 1: play in Baltimore the week before they play the Steelers.

793
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,080
Speaker 2: Oh really, I think we knew that when the schedule

794
00:33:56,120 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: came out, but I don't didn't remember that.

795
00:33:57,680 --> 00:34:00,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, so that's what you want, that's what you want. Yeah,

796
00:34:00,440 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 1: go ahead, go in there and get beat up by

797
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:04,200
Speaker 1: the Ravens and their building, in their building, that's a

798
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:06,400
Speaker 1: that's a tough place to win. Yeah, So at the

799
00:34:06,520 --> 00:34:08,399
Speaker 1: Ravens and they get the Steelers at home, then they

800
00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: get the Jaguars in Jacksonville. Tough game Colts, Vikings, at

801
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:17,279
Speaker 1: the Steelers, at the Chiefs, and then they play the

802
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:18,439
Speaker 1: Browns to finish it off.

803
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 2: That's brutal. I knew going into their Niner game, which

804
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,560
Speaker 2: they won and played very well. They had the hardest

805
00:34:24,560 --> 00:34:26,280
Speaker 2: schedule left, the remaining schedule.

806
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: Yeah, DV O A E PA whatever you look at.

807
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,919
Speaker 1: I mean, so they better be playing well.

808
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:35,600
Speaker 2: They they have to be basically in near playoff form

809
00:34:35,640 --> 00:34:37,799
Speaker 2: starting with that Niner game, and they were in that

810
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: game to get in because there's a lot of it's

811
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:42,120
Speaker 2: just a lot of obstacles there.

812
00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:44,080
Speaker 1: And the other thing, the other thing that they're slow

813
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:47,080
Speaker 1: start is they're oh and three in conference exactly. Yeah,

814
00:34:47,239 --> 00:34:50,040
Speaker 1: they are oh and two in a division.

815
00:34:50,280 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 2: Right right, brutal And you know so, I mean we

816
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 2: just said that's a very razor thin margin of era

817
00:34:57,400 --> 00:35:00,439
Speaker 2: for them. Okay, So we both just said, think they're

818
00:35:00,480 --> 00:35:01,640
Speaker 2: the best team in the division right.

819
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:04,120
Speaker 1: And they're playing the best football right now.

820
00:35:04,200 --> 00:35:06,320
Speaker 2: I think they're the best team right now. I probably

821
00:35:06,320 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 2: wouldn't pick them to win the division, though.

822
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,120
Speaker 1: I wouldn't either.

823
00:35:09,239 --> 00:35:11,160
Speaker 2: It's just a little harder for them at this point.

824
00:35:11,400 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 2: Just just because they're playing the best doesn't mean that

825
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,480
Speaker 2: they're gonna roll over the division foes for one thing,

826
00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,200
Speaker 2: let alone the Bills and Jags and Chiefs.

827
00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:20,919
Speaker 1: That I heard, Yeah, you know, I mean that's that's

828
00:35:21,000 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 1: not easy. And you get you know, you have to

829
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:25,080
Speaker 1: go to Baltimore. You know, they still have to come

830
00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,600
Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, which is no you know, that's no easy.

831
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 2: So, uh for the Steelers.

832
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 1: For the Steelers right now, that win last night was

833
00:35:36,600 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 1: a big one. This next game upcoming is a big one.

834
00:35:40,080 --> 00:35:41,680
Speaker 2: Conference was I mean, if you had just get one,

835
00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:42,720
Speaker 2: this one was more important.

836
00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,640
Speaker 1: This was so going into this three game homestand you

837
00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: would have liked to say, okay, you get two of

838
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,239
Speaker 1: three'd like to get all three. But you know, if

839
00:35:50,280 --> 00:35:53,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna lose one, lose it to the Packers, not

840
00:35:53,160 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 1: not the Jaguars. That being said, that game is now

841
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 1: behind you. So you got to beat the Packers. That

842
00:35:58,920 --> 00:36:00,280
Speaker 1: would get you the six and three.

843
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 2: I'll be shocked if they're not a decent favorite against

844
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:05,959
Speaker 2: green Bay. I mean, green Bay is playing the Rams

845
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,520
Speaker 2: without Stafford, but they're a mess right now.

846
00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 1: Yeah, then you got you're at Cleveland, then you're at Cincinnati,

847
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: Cardinals at home, Patriots at home at Colts.

848
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:19,600
Speaker 2: There's a lot of winnable ones in there.

849
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,719
Speaker 1: You know. So if you get this pack you get

850
00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:24,520
Speaker 1: the Titans game in hand, you're five and three. If

851
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: you can get the game against the Packers that gets

852
00:36:26,800 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 1: you to six and three.

853
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:29,640
Speaker 2: Right then you then you have a little breathing room too.

854
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 1: Now, if you can steal a win in one of

855
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:34,359
Speaker 1: those games in Cleveland or Cincinnati.

856
00:36:36,520 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think they're gonna I think they'll

857
00:36:38,239 --> 00:36:40,600
Speaker 2: end up three and three in the division, right yeah.

858
00:36:40,880 --> 00:36:42,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that's crazy talk.

859
00:36:42,320 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 1: No, I don't think so either. So if you get

860
00:36:45,080 --> 00:36:47,040
Speaker 1: the three, three and three in the division, you're two

861
00:36:47,080 --> 00:36:50,440
Speaker 1: and one now yeah, no, two and oh now and

862
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:51,800
Speaker 1: and oh in the division.

863
00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:53,200
Speaker 2: Maybe they'll get the four and two in the division.

864
00:36:53,280 --> 00:36:54,879
Speaker 1: If you could do that, you're your a playoff team.

865
00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: You're a playoff team to go fo to if you

866
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 2: get the three and split the division from here right now,

867
00:36:59,000 --> 00:37:02,440
Speaker 2: But you very well could. I mean, Watson, he's not

868
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:03,040
Speaker 2: good right now.

869
00:37:03,080 --> 00:37:03,160
Speaker 1: Now.

870
00:37:03,360 --> 00:37:05,000
Speaker 2: I mean, it wouldn't shock me if he looked good

871
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:07,000
Speaker 2: this week or came back and starts to kind of

872
00:37:07,040 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 2: look good. But he hasn't at all.

873
00:37:09,000 --> 00:37:13,600
Speaker 1: The thing is, it's it's a it's a A. I

874
00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: don't trust the Browns, the bottom, top of the bottom

875
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:20,920
Speaker 1: on this, on this injury news though they have misdiagnosed

876
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:23,880
Speaker 1: this thing and put false information out there the entire

877
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,360
Speaker 1: process every Yeah.

878
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 2: I mean that first week and making them warm up

879
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:31,560
Speaker 2: before the game when he had no business format when

880
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:32,720
Speaker 2: it when.

881
00:37:32,560 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 1: It first happened, You remember he was he was limited

882
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: at the first first practice on Wednesday, and then he's

883
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,520
Speaker 1: limited again on on Thursday. Then he went out and

884
00:37:40,520 --> 00:37:44,359
Speaker 1: through four passes in practice on Friday, and they said, oh,

885
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:45,640
Speaker 1: he's questionable to play this week.

886
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like what's going on here? The whole thing was

887
00:37:47,920 --> 00:37:49,080
Speaker 2: handled very straight.

888
00:37:48,920 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 1: And then all you know, first it was supposed to

889
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:54,440
Speaker 1: be a bruise, a shoulder bruise. Now it turns out

890
00:37:54,520 --> 00:37:58,120
Speaker 1: it's a it's a rotator cuff strain. Well, rotator cuff

891
00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: strain is a tear in your rotator cuff.

892
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, strain is a tear.

893
00:38:01,440 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 1: Strain is a tear. So he's got a torn rotator.

894
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:05,279
Speaker 2: Cuff on his passing shoulder that.

895
00:38:05,280 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: Hasn't gotten better on its own.

896
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:09,719
Speaker 2: I mean, take it with a grain of salt. But

897
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: some of these Twitter doctors, I saw some of them saying,

898
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:14,279
Speaker 2: this is a six to eight week injury, you know,

899
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:15,880
Speaker 2: like it's gonna take a while to heal, it's never

900
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 2: going to get.

901
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:19,440
Speaker 1: Better and the strength doesn't just return to that. Yeah,

902
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: and he wasn't making good decisions when he was.

903
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,479
Speaker 2: Healthy well before that. I don't know. The whole thing's

904
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 2: messy to me.

905
00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:27,200
Speaker 1: Now he hasn't played for a month again, and don't.

906
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:30,880
Speaker 2: Like he just handed the chubb and played defense great,

907
00:38:31,000 --> 00:38:33,719
Speaker 2: but their defense also coming back to earth a little too. Yeah,

908
00:38:34,040 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 2: it wasn't sustainable, No, I mean what they were doing

909
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,080
Speaker 2: so much about better than the rest of the lead. Yeah,

910
00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 2: giving up less than two hundred yards per game just

911
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,760
Speaker 2: wasn't gonna happen. They're gonna be on the field a lot, right.

912
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, so the Steelers, I mean they're in great ja

913
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,839
Speaker 1: if we if we had been sitting here in the summertime,

914
00:38:50,760 --> 00:38:53,080
Speaker 1: and we did we did a lot of talking to ye.

915
00:38:53,360 --> 00:38:55,000
Speaker 1: But if somebody said, hey, you're gonna be fine, the

916
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,520
Speaker 1: Steelers will be five and three after eight games, would

917
00:38:58,560 --> 00:38:59,239
Speaker 1: you have taken that.

918
00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,680
Speaker 2: I'm on this text thread with all my best buds,

919
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: and of course go during the games. It blows up

920
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:08,600
Speaker 2: and I kind of don't. I'm busy, But a lot

921
00:39:08,600 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 2: of it's negative, of course, you know, it's the ebbs

922
00:39:11,239 --> 00:39:13,919
Speaker 2: and flows of the game. And my one bud said,

923
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,520
Speaker 2: isn't this what we expected the team to be? You know,

924
00:39:16,960 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 2: covering around five hundred, you know, early November, you're five

925
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: and three, beat some good teams, you beat some bad

926
00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,560
Speaker 2: a lot. You know, there's ups and downs. Did you

927
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 2: think that the offense was going to look like the

928
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 2: eighty two cart, you know, Chargers all of a sudden,

929
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: I'm like, I guess that's a good way to look

930
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 2: at it.

931
00:39:33,280 --> 00:39:35,320
Speaker 1: The thing, Yeah, last seventeen games.

932
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're twelve and five, twelve and five, twelve and five.

933
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:40,840
Speaker 1: And seventeen games. Last time I checked, the NFL plays

934
00:39:40,840 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: a seventeen game schedule.

935
00:39:42,640 --> 00:39:44,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is week nine. The Steelers had a week nine.

936
00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 2: By I mean that that seven.

937
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 1: If they went twelve and five this year, people will

938
00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:50,800
Speaker 1: be over the moon.

939
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 2: Right, No doubt. There still would be the folks that say, well, one,

940
00:39:54,960 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: sore games aren't sustainable and blah blah blah blah blah.

941
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,800
Speaker 1: How often do you have to see them this team

942
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,399
Speaker 1: do it and win these games before you believe in.

943
00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,480
Speaker 2: That, right, Like the Vikings last year was not sustainable.

944
00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 1: I mean that was because there was nothing in their

945
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,960
Speaker 1: history that showed that they were that kind of team.

946
00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:10,640
Speaker 2: That kind of team.

947
00:40:10,680 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 1: And there's a six year or seven year track record

948
00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:15,840
Speaker 1: of this team winning these kind of games.

949
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 2: No, there's a formula and there, and.

950
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 1: It goes beyond just having Ben Roethlisberger. It goes beyond,

951
00:40:21,880 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: you know, anything else other than Mike Tomlin.

952
00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,799
Speaker 2: And I mean we put you know, Codges in there

953
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 2: and Rudolph and those guys too, right, So it's a

954
00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: it's a tough way to live. I mean, I don't

955
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:38,080
Speaker 2: think that. I'm sure it makes things interesting. I'm sure

956
00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:41,000
Speaker 2: he would not bat an eye to tell you, Yeah,

957
00:40:41,000 --> 00:40:42,359
Speaker 2: I'd rather have Levin eight.

958
00:40:42,600 --> 00:40:44,839
Speaker 1: And I mean he said it last week. He said, Look,

959
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 1: I desire to be a team that blows people out.

960
00:40:47,520 --> 00:40:50,279
Speaker 1: But Cam Hayward was as Cam Hayward was asked last night,

961
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: is you know just a great way to win a

962
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,479
Speaker 1: ball game, you know, with the defense on the field.

963
00:40:54,600 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: Is No, I'd rather be up by you know, multiple touchdowns,

964
00:40:58,040 --> 00:41:00,000
Speaker 1: is standing on the sideline at this point.

965
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,200
Speaker 2: I'd like to get dealt all Ace. But if I

966
00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:04,480
Speaker 2: don't I need to finagle my way through this poker hand,

967
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:06,000
Speaker 2: you know, And there's an art.

968
00:41:05,920 --> 00:41:08,440
Speaker 1: To that, there most certainly is, and they just keep

969
00:41:08,480 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: finding ways to win them. Again.

970
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,640
Speaker 2: It was crazy, though, I'm with Pursuito. There was several stretches.

971
00:41:13,719 --> 00:41:16,400
Speaker 2: I'm like, why is this close? The home team's a

972
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 2: much better team right now, and I keep looking at

973
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,640
Speaker 2: the scoreboard and doesn't show it. You know.

974
00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:22,920
Speaker 1: Well, some of that was the penalties early, no doubt.

975
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:24,000
Speaker 1: I mean, they were off the field.

976
00:41:24,120 --> 00:41:25,000
Speaker 2: It wasn't even turnover.

977
00:41:25,080 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: They on two of those occasions that that the Titans

978
00:41:28,160 --> 00:41:31,959
Speaker 1: actually went down and scored points. The Steelers had third

979
00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:33,759
Speaker 1: down penalties that kept them on the field. I know,

980
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:35,880
Speaker 1: I like, you don't have that, and that game.

981
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 2: Is not even close. And the pickings catch. I mean,

982
00:41:39,760 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: we do this every week and you can point to

983
00:41:43,440 --> 00:41:45,960
Speaker 2: three or four players that would have drastically changed the game.

984
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: And that's how football is. But it didn't feel it

985
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:50,439
Speaker 2: felt like the Steelers were in control.

986
00:41:50,480 --> 00:41:52,919
Speaker 1: They were in control the entire game. Again, they had

987
00:41:53,680 --> 00:41:55,839
Speaker 1: as much as people want to throw that number out there,

988
00:41:55,880 --> 00:42:00,040
Speaker 1: they had way more yardage than the Titans going in

989
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:01,360
Speaker 1: to that last possession.

990
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 2: So a week or not less than a week ago.

991
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:08,200
Speaker 2: I guess it was Monday. I cited after the Jags game,

992
00:42:08,880 --> 00:42:11,120
Speaker 2: the kick at the end of the half, the Johnson

993
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 2: drop right off the bat, and the blown coverage on

994
00:42:16,160 --> 00:42:20,080
Speaker 2: ATN Does the game go drastically different? I tend to

995
00:42:20,080 --> 00:42:22,840
Speaker 2: think it'd be much different, but maybe not drastically. But

996
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 2: I never thought Jacksonville was not in control of the game. Yeah,

997
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 2: you know where this was the opposite where I felt

998
00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: like the Steelers were controlled this game. They were the

999
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,200
Speaker 2: better team.

1000
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,640
Speaker 1: The Titans had two hundred and seventy nine yards of

1001
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: offense going into that final drive. Okay, now, remember they

1002
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:40,279
Speaker 1: had one hundred and ninety eight at the half, so

1003
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:42,560
Speaker 1: they had eighty basically eighty yards of offense in the

1004
00:42:42,600 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 1: second half.

1005
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 2: Until the garbage time.

1006
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:46,640
Speaker 1: Basically.

1007
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:50,920
Speaker 2: Yeah. And frankly like, if you're to people are like,

1008
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,279
Speaker 2: well in Levis through that pick, I'm like, don't hold

1009
00:42:53,320 --> 00:42:55,160
Speaker 2: that against them. That's like throwing a hill Mary pick.

1010
00:42:55,239 --> 00:42:57,600
Speaker 1: You know, Like, it's still different than Kenny Pickett two

1011
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 1: years ago or last year in his rookie year. They're

1012
00:43:00,239 --> 00:43:02,880
Speaker 1: down against the Dolphins and he throws two picks in

1013
00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 1: the final four minutes because they're trying to he's trying

1014
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:05,399
Speaker 1: to win the game.

1015
00:43:05,840 --> 00:43:09,040
Speaker 2: And the reason I cited the Levis thing is stats

1016
00:43:09,080 --> 00:43:12,880
Speaker 2: are great, but the end of a drive like that

1017
00:43:13,239 --> 00:43:15,239
Speaker 2: or you always do this in your call them, which

1018
00:43:15,280 --> 00:43:18,560
Speaker 2: is great, excluding neel downs, you know, things like that,

1019
00:43:18,719 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 2: like some of the stuff you have to throw out,

1020
00:43:20,680 --> 00:43:23,279
Speaker 2: or the game has just played differently, like there's only

1021
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: thirty seconds of the clock and we have to act

1022
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,640
Speaker 2: as aggressively as humanly possible. Is going to let you

1023
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,840
Speaker 2: throw the ball twenty yards down the field between the numbers.

1024
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,440
Speaker 1: The Steelers get the ball back with two yardages gready

1025
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: with two oh six remaining, they're running the ball three

1026
00:43:36,200 --> 00:43:39,759
Speaker 1: times there. Whether they get anything right at midfield, we're

1027
00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:42,080
Speaker 1: just trying to You're just trying to, you know, eat

1028
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:42,600
Speaker 1: some clock.

1029
00:43:43,200 --> 00:43:45,399
Speaker 2: And that was more valuable than the yardage and.

1030
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 1: You make forcing them to use their timeouts. Okay, So

1031
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,920
Speaker 1: the Steelers last four plays gained one yard.

1032
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 2: Exactly, you know, So, okay, your yards for play are

1033
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 2: going to go down.

1034
00:43:55,480 --> 00:43:58,279
Speaker 1: Right before that, they were they were rolling very long.

1035
00:43:58,480 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 1: Two weeks ago against her, three weeks ago against the Rams,

1036
00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,840
Speaker 1: Pickett has eight rushes. Yeah, that was for zero yards

1037
00:44:05,080 --> 00:44:07,040
Speaker 1: because he took he took a knee five.

1038
00:44:06,880 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: Times, and I think one was a plunge, and he

1039
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:11,879
Speaker 2: had a touchdown touchdown run fourth and one or whatever,

1040
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 2: third and one. Yeah, So no, I think you do

1041
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: need to pay attention to those things. It's not all

1042
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:17,560
Speaker 2: created equally, you know, and you.

1043
00:44:17,520 --> 00:44:18,919
Speaker 1: Get a kneel down at the end of the half

1044
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:20,279
Speaker 1: and things of that nature.

1045
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:22,719
Speaker 2: Like, yeah, there's another drive that they went three and

1046
00:44:22,760 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 2: out right a little different. Yeah, I mean even that

1047
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:27,360
Speaker 2: drive that they went three and out that you reference

1048
00:44:27,480 --> 00:44:30,160
Speaker 2: the run run run. They knew they were getting a

1049
00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:32,960
Speaker 2: first down, right, you'd like to running into eleven man

1050
00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: boxes basically, you know, right.

1051
00:44:34,480 --> 00:44:36,560
Speaker 1: You'd like to have somebody break one. But you know

1052
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:40,160
Speaker 1: that's just the goal. That is the goal in that situation.

1053
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:44,320
Speaker 1: So if you look at their their drives, the meaningful

1054
00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:47,960
Speaker 1: drive yesterday ten play, eighty three yard drive to open.

1055
00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:48,960
Speaker 2: The game, very nice too.

1056
00:44:50,000 --> 00:44:52,319
Speaker 1: Then they had the two three and outs. Yeah, they

1057
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:55,239
Speaker 1: got two yards on first down in each situation and

1058
00:44:55,280 --> 00:44:58,480
Speaker 1: then didn't gain another yard four straight in completions there

1059
00:44:58,520 --> 00:45:01,279
Speaker 1: for picket. Then they come out at the end of

1060
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:03,960
Speaker 1: the half ten for fifty five. They get it at

1061
00:45:03,960 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 1: sixty five yards actually in that drive, they get a

1062
00:45:06,200 --> 00:45:10,760
Speaker 1: field goal to tie it. They go ten ten and

1063
00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: the Titans come out and go fifty seven yards. You

1064
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 1: get the field goal. Now they're down thirteen to ten.

1065
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:16,480
Speaker 1: You come out in the second.

1066
00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 2: That's how I started to worry. I'm like, you're losing here,

1067
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: and they're you're definitely the better team. Yeah.

1068
00:45:21,280 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 1: You get a three and out from the Titans to

1069
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 1: open the second half, and then you go fifteen play seventy.

1070
00:45:27,320 --> 00:45:29,919
Speaker 2: Five yards, a couple of long drives in there.

1071
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:32,879
Speaker 1: He end up kicking the field goal because Pikets doesn't

1072
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 1: get his feet down him.

1073
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1074
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 1: I get if he gets his feet down and I

1075
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,960
Speaker 1: mean it was his big toe basically was out a mise.

1076
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he should make that play.

1077
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:44,400
Speaker 1: He should make that play if that happens instead. You know,

1078
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 1: now it's it's seventeen thirteen.

1079
00:45:47,239 --> 00:45:49,280
Speaker 2: A game like that. Four points is dragant, oh.

1080
00:45:49,200 --> 00:45:52,239
Speaker 1: Huge, seventeen thirteen. Now you're feeling pretty good about this

1081
00:45:52,280 --> 00:45:55,040
Speaker 1: because they're kicking field goals. You know, they're kicking field goals.

1082
00:45:55,719 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 1: They get the nine yard nine play, forty yard drive,

1083
00:45:58,120 --> 00:45:59,839
Speaker 1: then the third quarter they get a field goal out

1084
00:45:59,840 --> 00:46:03,160
Speaker 1: of it. So it would have been seventeen sixteen at

1085
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:06,920
Speaker 1: that point right as opposed to you know that sixteen thirteen.

1086
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 1: Now you're trailing again, and it just changes the entire

1087
00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:12,560
Speaker 1: complexion of the second of the fourth quarter. You get

1088
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: down and you score that touchdown again. Now it's twenty

1089
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: four sixteen and they're really up against it.

1090
00:46:18,600 --> 00:46:21,560
Speaker 2: It's basically a wrap. And frankly, I thought that was

1091
00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:23,799
Speaker 2: Picket's best throw of the game. I thought he threw.

1092
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,160
Speaker 1: I thought the one Deontay Johnson side was.

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00:46:26,560 --> 00:46:28,840
Speaker 2: Very nice as well, but the touch he threw to

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00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 2: Pickens was perfect in my opinion. Yeah, there was four

1095
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:33,920
Speaker 2: or five. I thought Picket threw very poorly. You know,

1096
00:46:33,960 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 2: there left some big plays on that were designed well

1097
00:46:36,920 --> 00:46:39,320
Speaker 2: that he missed. I thought Austin deep down the middle

1098
00:46:39,840 --> 00:46:43,959
Speaker 2: should have been a completion, if not more.

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00:46:44,280 --> 00:46:48,080
Speaker 1: The defensive back was he never even saw the football. No,

1100
00:46:48,120 --> 00:46:50,000
Speaker 1: I never saw it just happened to hit his arm.

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00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:53,280
Speaker 2: It was also a little bit of bad luck exactly.

1102
00:46:53,480 --> 00:46:57,200
Speaker 2: But but then Kenny at the end, as usual, was doing.

1103
00:46:57,120 --> 00:47:00,879
Speaker 1: Good and turned it on those last couple of they

1104
00:47:00,960 --> 00:47:03,799
Speaker 1: had a fifteen play seventy yard drive in the fourth

1105
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:06,120
Speaker 1: quarter or in the second half, they had eleven play

1106
00:47:06,239 --> 00:47:10,040
Speaker 1: ninety four yard drive in the second half, Like you'll

1107
00:47:10,040 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 1: take those all day long.

1108
00:47:11,320 --> 00:47:12,719
Speaker 2: Like hard to do, that's what.

1109
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: So they had four double digit play drives in this game.

1110
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:19,880
Speaker 1: That's what they were doing.

1111
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,879
Speaker 2: Last year Tennessee had one or two.

1112
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:22,600
Speaker 1: They had.

1113
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: The first one was all penalty eighty counting.

1114
00:47:25,160 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 1: The last one it was twelve play sixty one yards

1115
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,919
Speaker 1: that they were on. It ended nothing. But they also

1116
00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:32,880
Speaker 1: had elevens play seventy three that was their touchdown drive.

1117
00:47:33,239 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: And then fourteen plays they gained thirty two yards by

1118
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,080
Speaker 1: the opening position and they get a field out of

1119
00:47:40,120 --> 00:47:42,600
Speaker 1: that they end up with it's a seventy two net

1120
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: yard play net yards drive. They got a full thirty

1121
00:47:46,400 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 1: two yards on fourteen plays.

1122
00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:51,839
Speaker 2: Yeh yeah, exactly, And that was frustrating and that can't

1123
00:47:51,840 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 2: happen again.

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00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:54,840
Speaker 1: They didn't do anything offensively in that opening drive that

1125
00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:57,400
Speaker 1: made you go, oh, yeah, this is right. This offense

1126
00:47:57,480 --> 00:47:58,640
Speaker 1: is going to really light it up and.

1127
00:47:58,560 --> 00:48:01,640
Speaker 2: You'll start to lose these games if those penalties on right, kid, Yeah,

1128
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: I mean that's got to get cleaned up. And I

1129
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: think everyone in the building knows it. But couldn't have

1130
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 2: been many drives in this game. No, it was long

1131
00:48:08,320 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 2: drives and slow play.

1132
00:48:09,680 --> 00:48:12,160
Speaker 1: Nine for each team, and that includes the Steelers kneel

1133
00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,000
Speaker 1: down at the end of the game. I tried to

1134
00:48:14,000 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 1: tell Tim Benz that yesterday one of his guarantees that

1135
00:48:17,000 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 1: there would be what do you say I think over

1136
00:48:20,880 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 1: was he? I think it was eleven combined punts in

1137
00:48:23,000 --> 00:48:26,120
Speaker 1: the game. I said, Tim, there aren't going to be

1138
00:48:26,200 --> 00:48:29,360
Speaker 1: that many possessions in football game exactly because these teams

1139
00:48:29,440 --> 00:48:30,360
Speaker 1: both play slow.

1140
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: Nobody plays slower in the Titans.

1141
00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:35,600
Speaker 1: I said, I don't expect there to be a lot

1142
00:48:35,640 --> 00:48:37,040
Speaker 1: of punts in this game because there's no I don't

1143
00:48:37,120 --> 00:48:38,399
Speaker 1: know that there's going to be a ton of three

1144
00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:42,520
Speaker 1: and outs. And they're both they're both going to move

1145
00:48:42,560 --> 00:48:43,320
Speaker 1: the ball enough.

1146
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 2: How many times at Harvin punt he had a beauty

1147
00:48:46,719 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: that Boykin made a great play huge.

1148
00:48:49,560 --> 00:48:52,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, he had four punts he average fifty yards. Stonehouse

1149
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 1: had three for fifty seven.

1150
00:48:54,400 --> 00:48:55,399
Speaker 2: So there's only seven total.

1151
00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:57,560
Speaker 1: I mean, I have both punters were actually.

1152
00:48:57,239 --> 00:48:59,440
Speaker 2: Stonehouse is a great player, Yeah, and Harvin had a

1153
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 2: really good game and Boz was great again mentioned the

1154
00:49:02,200 --> 00:49:03,319
Speaker 2: boy can play, you know.

1155
00:49:03,360 --> 00:49:06,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, stone has stone now said three punts all three

1156
00:49:06,800 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: downs inside the the twenty and he ever fifty seven

1157
00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:14,840
Speaker 1: yards per punt the league Harvan average fifty yards per punt,

1158
00:49:15,200 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 1: and he had three of his four punts down inside

1159
00:49:17,160 --> 00:49:18,880
Speaker 1: the twenty. I mean that both. I mean it's a

1160
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: field position, A field position game is.

1161
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:24,600
Speaker 2: We need to talk punters more this year than usual.

1162
00:49:24,640 --> 00:49:26,680
Speaker 2: I mean that stuff's important for the way they do. Yeah.

1163
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,080
Speaker 1: Huge, But yeah, he couldn't. He couldn't lose it on

1164
00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:35,080
Speaker 1: special teams, didn't didn't. No turnovers again, no sacks at

1165
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,200
Speaker 1: tickets on a remarkable.

1166
00:49:37,400 --> 00:49:40,759
Speaker 2: Turnover free Yeah yeah, knock on would Yeah.

1167
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:43,800
Speaker 1: But I mean again, if you take care of the

1168
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,920
Speaker 1: football like that and you play you're able to run

1169
00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:48,799
Speaker 1: the football the way you did in this game, you're

1170
00:49:48,800 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 1: gonna win a lot.

1171
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:50,600
Speaker 2: You're gonna win a lot.

1172
00:49:50,719 --> 00:49:50,919
Speaker 1: Yeah.

1173
00:49:51,239 --> 00:49:55,040
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure people are out there going, well,

1174
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: does that beat the Chiefs on their best day?

1175
00:49:57,280 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 1: Probably not this version of the Chiefs maybe.

1176
00:49:59,239 --> 00:50:00,719
Speaker 2: Well. I'm just saying, whoever the best team in the

1177
00:50:00,760 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 2: league is, you know, Burrow's best day, Allen's best day.

1178
00:50:04,120 --> 00:50:06,319
Speaker 2: Maybe not, but you'll be in it.

1179
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,320
Speaker 1: You'll be in it, and your defense gives you a

1180
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:10,920
Speaker 1: chance to win it because it's a big play defense.

1181
00:50:11,040 --> 00:50:13,120
Speaker 2: I mean I would still pick the other team, the

1182
00:50:13,120 --> 00:50:17,120
Speaker 2: great quarterback team, right, and if the Steelers play that game.

1183
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 1: But if you can keep it close.

1184
00:50:18,320 --> 00:50:21,799
Speaker 2: But if if the if you're not able to play

1185
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,080
Speaker 2: that game, you could be bad. Right, So that's the

1186
00:50:24,120 --> 00:50:24,719
Speaker 2: difference to me.

1187
00:50:25,000 --> 00:50:27,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree, I agree. Anyways, we're going to get

1188
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,000
Speaker 1: to another break. Here. He is Matt Williamson. I am

1189
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