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Speaker 1: That's amazing. The thing about thirty seven number ones is

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Speaker 1: But you write that you create the word. This is

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Speaker 1: I don't know anything about science or history, but creative writing.

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Speaker 1: it like around, like gathered around to watch it, and

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00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:00,199
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, I've got to get

426
00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:02,000
Speaker 1: this girl to record one of my songs. So that

427
00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:03,760
Speaker 1: was like a magical thing just the way that all

428
00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,080
Speaker 1: played out. So obviously, really thankful for her, and we've

429
00:18:07,119 --> 00:18:09,840
Speaker 1: worked together for long ever since. Then. You told a story,

430
00:18:10,400 --> 00:18:11,919
Speaker 1: and you probably tell these stories a lot. So if

431
00:18:11,920 --> 00:18:15,600
Speaker 1: i'm I could be, I remember this's right about you

432
00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,520
Speaker 1: and Carrie and that you tough thing about writing with

433
00:18:19,600 --> 00:18:22,920
Speaker 1: Carrie is she sings so good that it's hard to

434
00:18:22,960 --> 00:18:25,320
Speaker 1: write with her because she can make anything sound good.

435
00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:27,480
Speaker 1: Is that saying that accurate? Yes? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're

436
00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:30,560
Speaker 1: smartest like that, um, and especially her, I mean, she

437
00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,000
Speaker 1: sings perfect when you're in there. She can do She

438
00:18:33,080 --> 00:18:35,440
Speaker 1: obviously sings amazing, but she can sing the song perfectly

439
00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:37,440
Speaker 1: as soon as it's written. It's like an odd skill

440
00:18:37,560 --> 00:18:40,320
Speaker 1: where when you're recording it, she remembers the entire thing

441
00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:43,040
Speaker 1: and does and you can just nail it. Um. So yeah,

442
00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:44,680
Speaker 1: you gotta be careful. I'll always a lot of times

443
00:18:44,680 --> 00:18:46,800
Speaker 1: when I'm writing with great singers, I'll be like, all right,

444
00:18:46,840 --> 00:18:49,040
Speaker 1: let me kind of sing that down one time and

445
00:18:49,160 --> 00:18:53,520
Speaker 1: see if it's still and if it still sounds good. Yeah,

446
00:18:53,520 --> 00:18:54,919
Speaker 1: so I yeah, I You're write with Karenda Wood, Chris

447
00:18:54,960 --> 00:18:56,680
Speaker 1: Staple and whoever. It's like, it doesn't matter. You know,

448
00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:59,200
Speaker 1: it could just be vowels, you know, and it would

449
00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:01,719
Speaker 1: be fine. But um so I've always had that kind

450
00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:03,240
Speaker 1: of built in, like let me kind of sing that

451
00:19:03,359 --> 00:19:05,720
Speaker 1: back and play bad piano chords and if it still

452
00:19:05,760 --> 00:19:07,680
Speaker 1: sounds like something, then we may have something. You know.

453
00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:12,159
Speaker 1: Carrie was a nice enough I did this moderately somewhat

454
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,080
Speaker 1: humorous record while Ago and Carry came in and we

455
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,000
Speaker 1: saying this duet and Carry came into the studio, and

456
00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:19,919
Speaker 1: I mean, I've been in the studio with a few

457
00:19:19,960 --> 00:19:22,639
Speaker 1: friends in their recording and this town is that there

458
00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:23,920
Speaker 1: is the land of the Giants. And you get a

459
00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:27,280
Speaker 1: bit jaded because everybody's good. It's like the major leagues,

460
00:19:27,400 --> 00:19:30,240
Speaker 1: whether you're just even if they're playing for the Royals

461
00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:34,360
Speaker 1: and they're back Naith, they're still freaking amazing. Yeah you're

462
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,879
Speaker 1: in the so even the worst are pretty good. And

463
00:19:36,960 --> 00:19:39,080
Speaker 1: so man it Carrie comes in and Carrie has been

464
00:19:39,240 --> 00:19:41,800
Speaker 1: so kind to me, like just she's awesome, nicer. You

465
00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:43,399
Speaker 1: can think carry is the nicest person, but when you

466
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:44,720
Speaker 1: meet her, you go, oh, she's even cooler than I.

467
00:19:45,760 --> 00:19:48,119
Speaker 1: And so Carrie comes in and she's she comes in

468
00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:49,960
Speaker 1: and these things, and Nail crushes it right the first

469
00:19:50,720 --> 00:19:53,960
Speaker 1: crushes it. And I was like, well, because I was like,

470
00:19:54,080 --> 00:19:55,320
Speaker 1: I don't even know what that means producing it, but

471
00:19:55,320 --> 00:19:56,560
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I was just saying that.

472
00:19:56,880 --> 00:19:59,480
Speaker 1: I was like, either you're done. When she's like, no, no, no,

473
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:02,280
Speaker 1: let me do it, I'm telling she does it again

474
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 1: as flawless, and I'm like, okay, what she goes, no, no, no, no,

475
00:20:05,400 --> 00:20:08,920
Speaker 1: let me. She did it five times and I don't

476
00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:10,359
Speaker 1: know there was ever an off note. We could I

477
00:20:10,400 --> 00:20:12,679
Speaker 1: could have any part of any of it. Really freaky thing.

478
00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,400
Speaker 1: It's like she doesn't allow you to mess with a voice.

479
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,200
Speaker 1: She's so good. There's for me, there was no. Yeah,

480
00:20:18,320 --> 00:20:20,800
Speaker 1: very different. She's like dry on the mic. When I sing,

481
00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:23,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, turn on every every knob you have, turn

482
00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,800
Speaker 1: it to ten. Can you make me echo back? Like

483
00:20:26,119 --> 00:20:30,480
Speaker 1: you make anybody else hip? I want to sing anything. Yeah,

484
00:20:30,560 --> 00:20:33,120
Speaker 1: that's the But she's amazing that that's such a privilege

485
00:20:33,200 --> 00:20:35,560
Speaker 1: like working with those guys. It's such a it's such

486
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:37,280
Speaker 1: a rush to work with Carry or any of the

487
00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,679
Speaker 1: any artists that they're all so great, amazing. It's like, man,

488
00:20:40,040 --> 00:20:42,000
Speaker 1: especially right when you get done with this song and

489
00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,439
Speaker 1: they're singing it back to you right then, like when

490
00:20:44,480 --> 00:20:46,400
Speaker 1: you're doing what we call a work tape or you're

491
00:20:46,440 --> 00:20:49,560
Speaker 1: doing the demo or whatever, that's just such a magic

492
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:51,320
Speaker 1: time because it's like, Wow, we just made that up

493
00:20:51,400 --> 00:20:53,239
Speaker 1: and there it is being performed right now. I mean

494
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:55,640
Speaker 1: that's not the final record or anything, but it still

495
00:20:55,680 --> 00:20:57,960
Speaker 1: freaks me out when you're in with an artist and

496
00:20:57,960 --> 00:21:00,560
Speaker 1: they're singing back the thing you just made. I get

497
00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,159
Speaker 1: this all of a girl wrote that. Listen to this

498
00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:24,840
Speaker 1: good Girl, dirty Laundry heartbeat. I mean that right there

499
00:21:24,880 --> 00:21:26,600
Speaker 1: part all the kids to college, right like that? That

500
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,600
Speaker 1: that run right there? A joke, there's a yeah, there's

501
00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,600
Speaker 1: a rumor two in our house. There's a little the

502
00:21:31,720 --> 00:21:36,160
Speaker 1: carrying there's you're now walking into the carry wing. Look

503
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,280
Speaker 1: to the left, there's the statue of Carry there. Yeah.

504
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 1: She's been great and she's so you know, loyal as

505
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,440
Speaker 1: far as letting us have, you know, chances to write

506
00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:45,119
Speaker 1: with her again after they you know, after there's been

507
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 1: some success. So she's so fun to write with. Has

508
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:50,359
Speaker 1: been great. If you get a great idea, let's say, Um,

509
00:21:51,280 --> 00:21:53,320
Speaker 1: sometimes I'll get a bit my head a comedy bet

510
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:55,160
Speaker 1: or something, and I'll think, oh, this is a really

511
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 1: cool concept. That should really work this out on stage

512
00:21:57,400 --> 00:21:59,440
Speaker 1: or something, and I hit up sometimes might D and

513
00:21:59,440 --> 00:22:01,320
Speaker 1: I'd be like, hey, if we think about this. If

514
00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,040
Speaker 1: you get this great idea for a song, who is

515
00:22:03,119 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: your person that you hit up first? And you go,

516
00:22:05,080 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: I got this great idea, We got to work this out.

517
00:22:07,880 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 1: I could be an artist or a person. Who's your person? Man?

518
00:22:10,200 --> 00:22:11,920
Speaker 1: It depends on what the idea is, you know what

519
00:22:12,000 --> 00:22:14,520
Speaker 1: I mean? Like, Um, it depends. There's so many people

520
00:22:14,760 --> 00:22:17,200
Speaker 1: I've grown to trust now. It maybe Shane McNally, maybe

521
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,200
Speaker 1: Jesse Fraser, maybe Christa Stephano or Kelly Loveless or it

522
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:23,920
Speaker 1: maybe you're on island. You got one person that you

523
00:22:24,000 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 1: gotta write with. You have to write with. We'll eliminate

524
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:28,200
Speaker 1: the artists. Okay, I'm wondering. You have to write it.

525
00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 1: You have to write it with. And here's the concept.

526
00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:31,840
Speaker 1: I'll give you the name of the song. I'll even

527
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:35,639
Speaker 1: put you in a good place. It's called four Wheels

528
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:39,040
Speaker 1: and a beer. Well, yeah, if the country, I would

529
00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,600
Speaker 1: not say, if it was a country, I'll be calling Luke. Okay, Um,

530
00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:44,040
Speaker 1: it was an amazing writer and he's I mean, he's

531
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:48,200
Speaker 1: so amazing, amazing at writing and singing and just such

532
00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,040
Speaker 1: a such an authentic country guy that if it's it's

533
00:22:50,040 --> 00:22:52,280
Speaker 1: through the country at all, I'll trusted, uh, trusted in

534
00:22:52,280 --> 00:22:53,560
Speaker 1: the hands of Luke, I would say. But I mean

535
00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: there's lots of people depending on the idea. All right,

536
00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,760
Speaker 1: what about a song called Whisper to my Soul? Oh God,

537
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:00,959
Speaker 1: what would you call? What do you pine? You mean

538
00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:02,879
Speaker 1: Bill Anderson? If I could book it with him? Okay,

539
00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:07,080
Speaker 1: can't the whisper But I don't know about that. Whisper

540
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,919
Speaker 1: to my song a deep one. It's a deep one, right,

541
00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:11,720
Speaker 1: Like who are you calling? That goes to that next level,

542
00:23:11,880 --> 00:23:15,720
Speaker 1: like you're like, oh, this guy speaks poetry, this girl

543
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:21,639
Speaker 1: speaks poetry, or this oh you know, like Hillary or

544
00:23:21,680 --> 00:23:23,840
Speaker 1: a Josh Osborne or like a great lyric I mean

545
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:27,119
Speaker 1: lots of great lyricists out there, but you know, um,

546
00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: probably one of those. When you write, do you write

547
00:23:30,240 --> 00:23:32,960
Speaker 1: and again I've been gifted enough to be able to

548
00:23:33,080 --> 00:23:35,359
Speaker 1: hop into some rights because I do googy stuff and

549
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:36,600
Speaker 1: people like, oh, I like to write the kid I

550
00:23:36,640 --> 00:23:40,040
Speaker 1: did kids record, didn't you know? Um? And so some

551
00:23:40,200 --> 00:23:43,719
Speaker 1: of the writers they write like this and they go, okay, um,

552
00:23:43,840 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: here's the music and they don't sing the songs that

553
00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:50,600
Speaker 1: they do the mill like disease ez ez easy, and

554
00:23:50,680 --> 00:23:52,360
Speaker 1: then they try to and then you build the music

555
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:54,080
Speaker 1: with but do do and you feel the words in

556
00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:57,320
Speaker 1: over the top. Some people you write the lyrics and

557
00:23:57,400 --> 00:23:58,960
Speaker 1: you come and then you put the song over it.

558
00:23:59,000 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 1: Which way do you write songs? My my favorite way,

559
00:24:01,400 --> 00:24:03,359
Speaker 1: and it happens probably the majority of time is is

560
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,520
Speaker 1: melody and lyric at the same time. I'm mumbling some

561
00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 1: of it, but a lot of the words are kind

562
00:24:08,080 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 1: of coming out. So like if it's if somebody has

563
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: a title, then we spurred of my soul use, then

564
00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:16,159
Speaker 1: I would I would, like, you know, if there's a

565
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: track going on, you know, if you're right with a producer,

566
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 1: then I would try to maybe freestyle some melodies and

567
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,560
Speaker 1: that would be in there somewhere. So I would be

568
00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:25,440
Speaker 1: kind of scatting. But I'm not just doing those, you know,

569
00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 1: there's like threads of things that are capable through there,

570
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:30,359
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So a lot of it,

571
00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,239
Speaker 1: you know, my writing comes in spurts, so a lot

572
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,520
Speaker 1: of it. Like if it's a song, if it's marry me,

573
00:24:34,640 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: then when we have that idea, then um, I hear

574
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: like a piano part right then, and so we'll put

575
00:24:41,720 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 1: that down. But then when I'm writing melody and we're

576
00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:46,359
Speaker 1: all writing, then I'm hearing words along with it, you

577
00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:48,399
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So I'm kind of mumbling um

578
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 1: through some words and hoping people hear better lines than

579
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,000
Speaker 1: what I'm actually saying, you know what I mean. And

580
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,480
Speaker 1: then we kind of cultivate the lyric around that, so

581
00:24:54,920 --> 00:24:56,720
Speaker 1: I can never What I don't do well is just

582
00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:58,880
Speaker 1: write out a bunch of lyrics and then put music

583
00:24:58,920 --> 00:25:00,720
Speaker 1: to it. I've never done that. Never. You keep it

584
00:25:00,760 --> 00:25:03,560
Speaker 1: journal just like pure lyrics. I don't do that. Um.

585
00:25:03,640 --> 00:25:06,200
Speaker 1: I keep like a journal or a iPhone notes the

586
00:25:06,280 --> 00:25:09,520
Speaker 1: equivalent of titles or concepts or maybe two lines that

587
00:25:09,600 --> 00:25:12,720
Speaker 1: would like set up an emotion. But usually great songs

588
00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:15,640
Speaker 1: will come from like some of them come from a groove,

589
00:25:15,720 --> 00:25:17,320
Speaker 1: you know, if it's a great producer, if it's Jesse,

590
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:19,760
Speaker 1: Chris Stephano, Lucleair, those kind of guys. They can set

591
00:25:19,800 --> 00:25:22,000
Speaker 1: the tone for like what the mood might be. Zach

592
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: Kraal can do that. He can play a song, a

593
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,119
Speaker 1: track like Dirty Laundry, which I wrote with him, and

594
00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,280
Speaker 1: that just sounded like it needed a title like that,

595
00:25:28,520 --> 00:25:31,000
Speaker 1: you know what Hillary had, and that all went together great,

596
00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 1: you know. So sometimes the track sets the mood, or

597
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:36,280
Speaker 1: sometimes everybody's like anybody have an idea, and I may

598
00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: just have random titles in my phone or may just

599
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,640
Speaker 1: have like, hey, what if we wrote a song about

600
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,640
Speaker 1: this or that? And usually then I start to hear

601
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:46,280
Speaker 1: melodies and start to hear flows. Uh, that will go

602
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: with it. It all kind of happens at once. And

603
00:25:48,119 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: be careful with that whisper to my soul. If that happens,

604
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: it pops up, but it's whisper to my slot. You

605
00:25:57,000 --> 00:25:59,840
Speaker 1: don't even realize that. Yeah, that's the twizz. That's then

606
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: full flip you uh. You talk about marry Me, and

607
00:26:02,880 --> 00:26:06,119
Speaker 1: so that's obviously a Thomas Wright song. I have the

608
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:09,720
Speaker 1: have the demo, right, ah, this is marry Me demo?

609
00:26:09,800 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: Here she was to good Man, who's that singing? They're

610
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:20,280
Speaker 1: Shane perfect. So it's you Shane and Jessee and Thomas.

611
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: So it's all for you guys. Are you guys out

612
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,119
Speaker 1: on a bus you know with Thomas and me too,

613
00:26:25,200 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 1: but with with with artists like that with families, then

614
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 1: he would we write some in town. But uh, it's

615
00:26:31,160 --> 00:26:33,520
Speaker 1: really productive on the bus. Like all we did two

616
00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:35,920
Speaker 1: bus runs we call him, which is like leaving Wednesday

617
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: at midnight, coming back Sunday morning. Um, so kind of

618
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:40,600
Speaker 1: two three days outright and on the road of time.

619
00:26:40,640 --> 00:26:43,240
Speaker 1: We were like ten songs the four of us. Shane

620
00:26:43,320 --> 00:26:45,920
Speaker 1: is amazing, so um that's a perfect song to write

621
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: with him. So that one came together quick, you know,

622
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 1: and that's really fun. That's not usually the kind of

623
00:26:52,520 --> 00:26:54,240
Speaker 1: song you're right on the bus, you know, just as

624
00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:56,359
Speaker 1: far as whatever. But I'm holding the little keyboard on

625
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:59,240
Speaker 1: my lap and trying to play, uh and capture everything

626
00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,800
Speaker 1: we can. So yeah, those bus rounds with Thomas Rhett.

627
00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:04,360
Speaker 1: Some artists you know, would rather separate the two where

628
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 1: they're gonna write for their album in one head space

629
00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:08,639
Speaker 1: and then when they're performing when they're on the road,

630
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:11,720
Speaker 1: they just performed. Thomas feels every waking minute that he's

631
00:27:11,720 --> 00:27:14,000
Speaker 1: not on the stage with writing for the next album.

632
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: So he's I love doing that. He's a great one.

633
00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:18,119
Speaker 1: Let me hear some of that. Some of that that

634
00:27:18,240 --> 00:27:19,520
Speaker 1: Mary I think got some people want to hear some

635
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: of this. Marry me just the idema that's the cut there. Yeah,

636
00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:29,240
Speaker 1: let me hear that. She wants to get married. She

637
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Speaker 1: wants it perfect, fancy stages right here, preachings service. She

638
00:27:38,000 --> 00:27:42,480
Speaker 1: wants magno out in the come. You don't want to

639
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:46,879
Speaker 1: hear the infancy stages is just rambling and terrible. I

640
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,920
Speaker 1: was talking to and maybe it was tr let me.

641
00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: I want to hear that, right, she got it all planned, Una,

642
00:27:58,240 --> 00:28:02,639
Speaker 1: I see it all now. I want him on suit.

643
00:28:05,119 --> 00:28:06,960
Speaker 1: And I was like, hey, why don't you sing? Because

644
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,280
Speaker 1: I would ask or maybe then other artists like hey,

645
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:12,679
Speaker 1: why don't you sing? Um? You know these demos? He said, Well,

646
00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:13,840
Speaker 1: because I'm out on the bus and the weekend, i

647
00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:15,920
Speaker 1: gotta do a show like we right all day and

648
00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,680
Speaker 1: I'm singing these demos. I blow my voice out and

649
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:20,080
Speaker 1: then I'm next thing. You know, I'm on stage. You

650
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,480
Speaker 1: heard of my voice in front of fifteen thousand people

651
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:24,520
Speaker 1: because I'm singing a demo, right, and if he does

652
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: sing it, then I'll sing it all the way to

653
00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 1: the very It's funny because he'll be like, man, I

654
00:28:28,920 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: gotta say my voice, Um, you gotta sing this. And

655
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:33,399
Speaker 1: I know if I sing it enough time two or

656
00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:34,760
Speaker 1: three times, he's gonna be like, give me that, Mike,

657
00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: I got it, you know, because he's like, oh my gosh,

658
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: what are you doing? I got it? You know. So

659
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:40,640
Speaker 1: that happens a lot, which is funny. But he'll um,

660
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:42,600
Speaker 1: you try to save his voice until we lay out

661
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 1: the whole song. I'll sing like what's called the scratch vocal.

662
00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: It's all on t pain full tuning as much as

663
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:49,800
Speaker 1: it can be, and then he'll he'll just sing it,

664
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,280
Speaker 1: you know, over top of that, which sounds amazing. So yeah,

665
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 1: we gotta save his voice. We'll get our hand slap

666
00:28:54,120 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 1: sometimes out there, like you guys, quit writing so many

667
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:59,040
Speaker 1: songs we're playing in front of how many thousand people? Um,

668
00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:01,120
Speaker 1: So we're careful about that. We're respectful with his voice.

669
00:29:01,160 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: Only use it when we have to. Let me talk

670
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 1: about bombas for a second. How often do you think

671
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Speaker 1: about your socks? If you're like I used to be

672
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Speaker 1: not much, but I recently discovered that socks and having

673
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: good socks not just good socks, but socks actually make

674
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:16,120
Speaker 1: you feel better. Do change the way you think about socks.

675
00:29:16,160 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 1: And I want to tell you about bombas. I want

676
00:29:17,640 --> 00:29:19,240
Speaker 1: to be telling you about bombas if I didn't believe

677
00:29:19,240 --> 00:29:20,920
Speaker 1: in them. And I'll be honest too, I don't know

678
00:29:20,920 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: if they were until I had a pair. All I

679
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 1: knew is that people on the show, we're trading them

680
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Speaker 1: like baseball cards back in the day or POGs back

681
00:29:28,080 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: in the day. But they're bombas and they have this thing. Well,

682
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Speaker 1: first of all, there's this built in blister tab. I

683
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Speaker 1: don't know what that was, but on the back of

684
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Speaker 1: your foot you know that uh is aboy called the

685
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Speaker 1: Achilles tendon. So it is there's like this like a

686
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Speaker 1: little more what the tab is A good word, I guess,

687
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Speaker 1: but a little softer, a little more full, innovative arts support,

688
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Speaker 1: stay up technology, lots of colors, patterns, links. For me,

689
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Speaker 1: that's not so important, but maybe for you it is.

690
00:29:51,800 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 1: They're great in the gym, in the office. For me

691
00:29:53,680 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 1: the morning show, I have my shoes off a lout

692
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,120
Speaker 1: of the show. Anyway, Bombas donate to pair to someone

693
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Speaker 1: and need to for every purchase you make, keep cool.

694
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695
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696
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Speaker 1: But they were cool. I'm telling you they're cool. Bombas

697
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Speaker 1: dot Com slash Bones. Hey, so you know what song

698
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,800
Speaker 1: I like? And I think I'm a bit like affected

699
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: by the fact that I love these guys so much

700
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:19,560
Speaker 1: and I'm friends with Brandon but born to love you.

701
00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: I wrote that from Blanco, dude that I'm so excited

702
00:30:22,560 --> 00:30:34,040
Speaker 1: about do right. I mean, it's really good. I hesitate

703
00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:36,160
Speaker 1: to ask you this because you have so many and

704
00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:37,480
Speaker 1: they all kind of run together. But do you know

705
00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:40,120
Speaker 1: he wrote that with yeah, oh yeah, I always know

706
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,360
Speaker 1: that me Brandon, Ross Cofferman, and Josh Osborne in a

707
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,280
Speaker 1: crazy scenario where Ross and on Brandon wrote one day,

708
00:30:47,840 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: um kind of sussed out the course and everything of it,

709
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 1: and then Josh and Brandon and Ross wrote, and Ross

710
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:54,480
Speaker 1: just brought this song. I've asked if I was cool

711
00:30:54,480 --> 00:30:55,960
Speaker 1: if they mess with the verses, and it was like,

712
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 1: so we kind of wrote it in two separate parts

713
00:30:58,760 --> 00:31:01,840
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, think that your thoughts are valuable and

714
00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: you shouldn't waste them on certain instances like like my

715
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:07,240
Speaker 1: brain is so good, I don't know, I don't need

716
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 1: to spend time here at the d m V. I'm

717
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,400
Speaker 1: actually these boxes. No, but being a crib guy, it's

718
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,240
Speaker 1: so hard for me to just write a regular email

719
00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: or like a response like you know, actually, here's like

720
00:31:23,680 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: a melody attached to the MP three open this up

721
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:30,440
Speaker 1: for a refund at delta um. I should start doing that.

722
00:31:30,560 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 1: But no, no, no, not at all. But it is

723
00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: hard to just write something or you know what I mean,

724
00:31:34,360 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: like as far as like oh this gotta sound, this

725
00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 1: has gotta sound right, communicate the right way, you know.

726
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:39,880
Speaker 1: I feel so I feel that in a way where

727
00:31:40,080 --> 00:31:43,360
Speaker 1: I don't write something that's a bit humorous in tone,

728
00:31:43,600 --> 00:31:45,760
Speaker 1: people feel like people are discipline. Can't just say no,

729
00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,080
Speaker 1: I won't make it to the party. It's like I

730
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,600
Speaker 1: gotta say something else, you know, because then people feel

731
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: like I'm a dick if I'm just if I respond normally,

732
00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: but they're expecting more, that's a letdown to them. And

733
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,920
Speaker 1: su I said the big dick email, I mean not big,

734
00:32:01,600 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: they're big comment where I was like, no, I would

735
00:32:05,520 --> 00:32:07,520
Speaker 1: not like to go When they read it's like no,

736
00:32:07,680 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 1: I don't want to go so there is we're funny

737
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:11,920
Speaker 1: you bring that out because I felt the same way.

738
00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:14,200
Speaker 1: I'm not even that funny. Or the worst ever is

739
00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:17,360
Speaker 1: if somebody's like, um, hey man, whatever, I got a

740
00:32:17,360 --> 00:32:18,840
Speaker 1: friend get married, do you mind to write us like

741
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 1: a song for your I'm like, absolutely not. I will

742
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:22,920
Speaker 1: not do that, like it's not because it's not going

743
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:25,040
Speaker 1: to live up to whatever you think it's gonna be.

744
00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 1: I can't. I know, I will not do that or

745
00:32:28,360 --> 00:32:30,320
Speaker 1: anything where it's like, oh, just I'm sure I've heard

746
00:32:30,320 --> 00:32:32,280
Speaker 1: you these songs pretty quick. I'm like, no, dude, I'm

747
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,719
Speaker 1: not like, my song is not gonna define your day.

748
00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,160
Speaker 1: Please use like a standard or whatever you know, don't.

749
00:32:37,240 --> 00:32:40,040
Speaker 1: I can't do that. How far you booked out? Um,

750
00:32:40,760 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: normally in the last three or four years, it would

751
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 1: be booked out three or four months at the time. Maybe,

752
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,200
Speaker 1: but there's always holes because I always make um the

753
00:32:48,280 --> 00:32:51,360
Speaker 1: people that keep my calendar. I always want it to

754
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 1: not be, you know, crazy. Let's say Shane calls and

755
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: he's riding with Karen Fairchild tomorrow. I want there to

756
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:57,800
Speaker 1: be a decent chance that day's open so we can

757
00:32:57,880 --> 00:33:00,120
Speaker 1: just ride the wave and jump in, you know, or

758
00:33:00,160 --> 00:33:02,920
Speaker 1: if if an artist or whatever has it open right now,

759
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: I'm open um for the summer. So it's it's more

760
00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,880
Speaker 1: spotty than usual, but usually it's something every day. It's

761
00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:10,480
Speaker 1: like ant of five thing you ever hop in with

762
00:33:10,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: an artist, because I would I would assume, not not

763
00:33:13,840 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 1: knowing about you, but I know about other friends of mine,

764
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,240
Speaker 1: their songwriters, where they get pressure from their publishing company

765
00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: to do the big rights because that's where the money

766
00:33:23,000 --> 00:33:24,720
Speaker 1: comes from. Like, we live in a revenue based world

767
00:33:25,280 --> 00:33:28,640
Speaker 1: and our people pay us and hopefully we start to

768
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:30,720
Speaker 1: Like yourself, you have your own publishing and you know,

769
00:33:30,800 --> 00:33:33,920
Speaker 1: you and I have things and you get a little control,

770
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: but you never really get all of it right. People

771
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: still want you to. Yeah, if you manage it all,

772
00:33:37,560 --> 00:33:39,240
Speaker 1: then it's like go, go go, and so do you

773
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: Ever I'm trying to phrase this right without without actually

774
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:46,640
Speaker 1: talking about anyone specifically, but where you want to write

775
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 1: with someone that really doesn't have much of a name,

776
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:52,200
Speaker 1: you just believe in them, and the people like, oh,

777
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,080
Speaker 1: why you need to be write with these big stars?

778
00:33:54,680 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: But you're like, I believe with them, And who is

779
00:33:56,960 --> 00:33:58,680
Speaker 1: it that you believed in so early? Maybe they're not

780
00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 1: even a thing yet that you go. I just had

781
00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: to write with them because I loved what they were doing. Yeah,

782
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,960
Speaker 1: there have been. I mean trying to think that that's

783
00:34:07,000 --> 00:34:09,160
Speaker 1: happened more in my world, like where there's a writer

784
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,359
Speaker 1: I believe in, like you know, say it's Zach Kroll

785
00:34:11,440 --> 00:34:13,720
Speaker 1: Imagining and Jerry Flywers, these guys that that we've signed

786
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 1: to my publishing company, where it's like I'm gonna spend

787
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:17,880
Speaker 1: a lot of time with him working on ideas. Was

788
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 1: Zach he didn't have anything going, which, by the way,

789
00:34:20,000 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: Zach body like a back road a lot of he's

790
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:25,000
Speaker 1: been on here. I encourage you to listen to that.

791
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: He's also a great producer. Yeah, amazing. So guys like

792
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 1: that or I've been like, all right, I want to

793
00:34:29,160 --> 00:34:31,560
Speaker 1: write this guy, but I've never gotten everybody's always been

794
00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: so respectful. Maybe I'm just lucky when no noise ever

795
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: said like, man, why are you Why are you spending

796
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: this much time with this person? Artists like a brand

797
00:34:37,640 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 1: new artist that people are like, what like who is Frank?

798
00:34:40,560 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: And means what a name? Frank? And means yeah, who's

799
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,719
Speaker 1: why are you not with Frank? But then it turns

800
00:34:45,719 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: out that you were right, Like you ever hit one

801
00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,239
Speaker 1: of those early? I haven't had one. I mean like so,

802
00:34:50,400 --> 00:34:52,480
Speaker 1: I mean there's like Lanko, who I knew I liked,

803
00:34:52,560 --> 00:34:54,960
Speaker 1: but they had that song wasn't a hit the Greatest

804
00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:57,319
Speaker 1: love Story, but I did say I remember um when

805
00:34:57,320 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: the opportunity for that right came and I was like, yeah,

806
00:34:59,120 --> 00:35:00,719
Speaker 1: I want to do that because I love that song.

807
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:02,040
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's gonna be a hit or

808
00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:04,600
Speaker 1: I think it would be, but regardless of what that

809
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:05,879
Speaker 1: song did, I would have wanted to do that because

810
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:07,680
Speaker 1: I really liked the vibe, you know, that guy's voice,

811
00:35:07,680 --> 00:35:11,839
Speaker 1: in the emotion being portrayed. But there's you know, there's

812
00:35:11,880 --> 00:35:14,319
Speaker 1: been a few of those, uh and sometimes it's it's

813
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:16,839
Speaker 1: sometimes it's less writing with that artist and like, yes,

814
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: I'll trust this person with the song, you know what

815
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,440
Speaker 1: I mean where it's somebody's song, Like it's like a

816
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:24,160
Speaker 1: John Party song where we're gonna pitch you dart on

817
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,399
Speaker 1: my boots to John. I'm like, what does he even

818
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,240
Speaker 1: cut outside songs? Is he even what what kind of processing?

819
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,960
Speaker 1: And it turns out to be, you know, a big hit.

820
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: So there's been some of those instances where it's like, Oh,

821
00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,040
Speaker 1: I didn't realize that was gonna happen. Like we wrote

822
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:38,880
Speaker 1: um don't You with bred Eldridge, me and Christin Stephano

823
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: and um that demo that we did that day is

824
00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 1: a really fun song to write. But I don't know

825
00:35:43,680 --> 00:35:46,080
Speaker 1: it's gonna be like his you know, first single to

826
00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 1: break through and that they're going to use the demo

827
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,800
Speaker 1: as the master. There's there's been some instances like that

828
00:35:49,880 --> 00:35:52,680
Speaker 1: where it's like, wow, that's really cool the demos. They

829
00:35:52,719 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: just took the demo when he kept upgrading it. Yeah,

830
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,680
Speaker 1: is that Chris? Yeah, and he played everything and saying

831
00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: everything on it is like just on his laptop, so

832
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:00,560
Speaker 1: that that stuff like that's happened if dumbs, which is

833
00:36:00,600 --> 00:36:04,000
Speaker 1: really cool. Um, but yeah, everybody, you know, Nashville has

834
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,239
Speaker 1: got such a buzz going on that usually you hear

835
00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: about somebody being great and then uh, you know, that's

836
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,000
Speaker 1: what our publishers do is get us in there. You

837
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: know who's buzzing right now? Who do you who? Do

838
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:15,160
Speaker 1: you hear a buzzing about? Artist? Yeah, just give me

839
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: artist wise that you hear because I'll tell you why

840
00:36:17,840 --> 00:36:19,120
Speaker 1: do you think about this? I'll tell you what I do,

841
00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:20,800
Speaker 1: and I'm curious to you do the same thing. But

842
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:24,480
Speaker 1: I went and I look for people because you know,

843
00:36:24,520 --> 00:36:26,759
Speaker 1: I like the champion people, and just because I love music.

844
00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:28,719
Speaker 1: I mean I wouldn't I started doing this podcast just

845
00:36:28,760 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 1: because I love the art. Just art, right, and uh

846
00:36:32,520 --> 00:36:34,960
Speaker 1: so I went to the girls in Nashville. They were,

847
00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:37,520
Speaker 1: you know, ten females and Caitlin Smith and Heather Morgan

848
00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 1: do it and I just like to go watch. I

849
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: just like to go see because every once in a

850
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,600
Speaker 1: while you'll catch someone. And for me, she's opening six

851
00:36:45,640 --> 00:36:47,560
Speaker 1: shows up for me later this year, stand up shows.

852
00:36:47,600 --> 00:36:49,399
Speaker 1: But I booked her like four or five months ago,

853
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,600
Speaker 1: but it was Tanil Towns. Like I see Tanil Towns

854
00:36:52,640 --> 00:36:54,920
Speaker 1: and I go, oh, I don't know if she knows

855
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,640
Speaker 1: it yet. I don't know how it's gonna happen, But

856
00:36:56,719 --> 00:36:59,680
Speaker 1: that's a star. You just see some people and you

857
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:01,600
Speaker 1: go they have something that nobody else does and maybe

858
00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:03,399
Speaker 1: they haven't figured out how to actually shape it yet.

859
00:37:03,680 --> 00:37:06,160
Speaker 1: But Tainel Towns is someone I look at and I go, Okay,

860
00:37:06,200 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 1: that that's gonna happen eventually. I remember hearing Marion Morris's

861
00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:11,640
Speaker 1: voice and I don't I don't write with her. I would,

862
00:37:11,680 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 1: I will tomorrow she wants. But I remember thinking like,

863
00:37:15,000 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: all right, that's gonna work. She's that's amazing. So there's

864
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:19,440
Speaker 1: those kind of those kinds of things that have happened.

865
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:21,440
Speaker 1: Trying to think of who else right now that's buzzing

866
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:26,320
Speaker 1: songwriter wise. Um, you know, there's a lot of a

867
00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,160
Speaker 1: lot of great people coming up because give me one.

868
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,520
Speaker 1: I'm not putting on the pressure to give me ten,

869
00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:32,399
Speaker 1: just give me one. They It's like, huh, they're pretty

870
00:37:32,440 --> 00:37:35,600
Speaker 1: good people. There's a there's that I've started working at

871
00:37:35,600 --> 00:37:38,520
Speaker 1: Avenue Beat, this trio of girls that's like a country

872
00:37:38,600 --> 00:37:42,839
Speaker 1: TLC songwriters both. I mean it's like it's like an act,

873
00:37:42,880 --> 00:37:44,919
Speaker 1: Like it's like like a trio. Yeah, but it's like, wow,

874
00:37:45,480 --> 00:37:47,040
Speaker 1: how did they come up with this? You know when

875
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,399
Speaker 1: they're really young and and and and quirky and fun.

876
00:37:50,480 --> 00:37:52,160
Speaker 1: I'm like, Okay, that's gonna be fun to watch that.

877
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 1: Um what was her name, Avenue Beata. I think of me.

878
00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,240
Speaker 1: I don't even know them. And then we've got ahead

879
00:37:59,239 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: of it. There's a guy Hunter Phelps that um that

880
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 1: I remember. I mean when I heard this stuff, there's

881
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 1: only five songs or something I heard, and now we've

882
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:07,640
Speaker 1: worked for two or three years, but it's kind of

883
00:38:07,680 --> 00:38:09,520
Speaker 1: turned that corner where it's just like I just know

884
00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,839
Speaker 1: it's just a matter of time. You know, he's had

885
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:15,239
Speaker 1: a couple songs here and there Spotify high Way or whatever,

886
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,880
Speaker 1: but it's like, man, we're we're starting to record some

887
00:38:17,920 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: stuff on him and just watching that process. So I

888
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,359
Speaker 1: think I think those two are some people that are

889
00:38:22,440 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: next you know, next level that are they're bubbling up.

890
00:38:24,920 --> 00:38:27,120
Speaker 1: What song do you keep getting checks for? And it's like, man,

891
00:38:27,200 --> 00:38:28,840
Speaker 1: the checks does keep coming, Like what song is it

892
00:38:28,880 --> 00:38:30,520
Speaker 1: where you're just like I can't believe that on the check,

893
00:38:30,560 --> 00:38:32,879
Speaker 1: but that song, Yeah, there's a song you're gonna miss

894
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:36,880
Speaker 1: this that UM always has you know some trace right,

895
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:40,560
Speaker 1: yeah trace Yeah that it was played a lot. Um

896
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,279
Speaker 1: play it again. Luke Bryan is a big that's a

897
00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,160
Speaker 1: really consistent uh one that gets spun a lot still

898
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 1: And so it's because radio is holding onto them his

899
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:50,439
Speaker 1: recurrence and still playing them. Is that where the checks

900
00:38:50,480 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 1: are coming from? Yeah? Usually, And so it's if it's somebody,

901
00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:55,080
Speaker 1: it's it's any song that's like like going on my

902
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 1: boots will be like this something that that that you

903
00:38:57,120 --> 00:38:59,719
Speaker 1: could say is maybe somebody's song like not not there,

904
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:01,640
Speaker 1: defying ending song like I'm not saying played again as

905
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:04,120
Speaker 1: Luke's he has several of those, but something where they're

906
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:05,520
Speaker 1: always going to come back to that and play it,

907
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:06,880
Speaker 1: you know, or like you're gonna miss this could be

908
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:10,400
Speaker 1: that um for tracing. Say on a check what that

909
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,600
Speaker 1: song is, because oh it does Yeah, I mean it's

910
00:39:12,600 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 1: all kind of like digital nour you log on, they

911
00:39:14,239 --> 00:39:16,720
Speaker 1: don't pronout all the paper. Did a big check? They

912
00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: bring you one of those big checks. Yeah, it's people

913
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,439
Speaker 1: bring it to the door, says price patrol. You're gonna

914
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: I should put that in contracts like this. This is

915
00:39:27,120 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: all good, except that has to be on a big

916
00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,840
Speaker 1: check has to be ten feet Do you know how

917
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 1: much of checks costs though they're like a eighteen dollars.

918
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,640
Speaker 1: I've had to because I done. Yeah. I try to

919
00:39:38,719 --> 00:39:41,920
Speaker 1: do a fair amount of philanthropy, Like that's a big

920
00:39:41,920 --> 00:39:44,759
Speaker 1: part of what I do. And so whenever you do

921
00:39:44,880 --> 00:39:46,520
Speaker 1: something and let's say what I do something, and we

922
00:39:46,640 --> 00:39:48,879
Speaker 1: do we raise five or seven thousand dollars, by the way,

923
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 1: we're doing a million or three hundred thousand, I'll get

924
00:39:50,920 --> 00:39:52,560
Speaker 1: a big check all day because that's such a small

925
00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:54,840
Speaker 1: part of it. But you go, we raised five thousand

926
00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:56,440
Speaker 1: dollars and a couple hours, you know, with a hat

927
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: or something, and we're helping his family and then they

928
00:39:58,600 --> 00:40:00,439
Speaker 1: were just been a hundred thirty bucks on a big check.

929
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:04,480
Speaker 1: It's not worth it. Don't do that. Yeah, you see

930
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,520
Speaker 1: all that stuff. You know, I'm a member of as CAPS,

931
00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,520
Speaker 1: so those statements come in. It's really interesting too because

932
00:40:08,520 --> 00:40:11,600
Speaker 1: it's broken down so much like here's you know, from streaming,

933
00:40:11,680 --> 00:40:13,719
Speaker 1: or this is from some random show on HBO, or

934
00:40:13,760 --> 00:40:15,759
Speaker 1: this is from some country I didn't even know ever

935
00:40:15,840 --> 00:40:18,600
Speaker 1: played this song. So it's it's interesting to see, you

936
00:40:18,680 --> 00:40:20,560
Speaker 1: know where that money all comes in from. You give

937
00:40:20,600 --> 00:40:22,040
Speaker 1: you the itch to want to be artists a little bit.

938
00:40:22,080 --> 00:40:25,000
Speaker 1: Now you have song no not at all? What part

939
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: of it to you is not appealing? Well, like the

940
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:34,000
Speaker 1: talent part and then the talent no, I've never wanted.

941
00:40:34,040 --> 00:40:36,239
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just a different thing. I wasn't in

942
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: a band. I don't like spotlights. I don't listen back

943
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,560
Speaker 1: to any anything I performed seeing speak at I've never

944
00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,279
Speaker 1: listened back to anything like that. Things like this um

945
00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,920
Speaker 1: give me anxiety. You know what it means even have

946
00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,160
Speaker 1: to do it. So any any kind of public performing people.

947
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:52,239
Speaker 1: I mean the thought of someone critiquing the way I'm

948
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,640
Speaker 1: standing or whatever shirt I'm wearing or something like that,

949
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: I don't like that. Um And so I don't know

950
00:40:57,680 --> 00:41:00,600
Speaker 1: if maybe lack of self comment it's or something, but

951
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: just anything of like, um, you know, your private life

952
00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,719
Speaker 1: people recognize. I mean, not that I could even take

953
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,960
Speaker 1: it to that level, but those are the things. Um.

954
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:11,799
Speaker 1: I think people take for granted. Is like a Luke

955
00:41:11,840 --> 00:41:13,800
Speaker 1: Bryan or carry actually you know, go to the grocery.

956
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:16,080
Speaker 1: That would be crazy, but just kind of the uh.

957
00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,840
Speaker 1: I don't have that in me. The burning for like

958
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:21,600
Speaker 1: performing in front of people and getting that response. I

959
00:41:21,760 --> 00:41:23,879
Speaker 1: like to look at the crowd if I'm out there

960
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 1: and be more anonymous and see if people appreciate the song,

961
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,880
Speaker 1: and then that's that's what does it for me. You know,

962
00:41:28,960 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 1: sometimes if I'm at a writer's around, I get to

963
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:33,160
Speaker 1: do that a little bit, and that's all that scratches

964
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:35,279
Speaker 1: the itch for sure. If there is one, how often

965
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,880
Speaker 1: you do that? You go out and play right around

966
00:41:37,600 --> 00:41:40,360
Speaker 1: usually just do it. Sometimes there's been it's becoming a

967
00:41:40,360 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: little more popular. So I've been uh, you know, I've

968
00:41:42,840 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: flown out with a couple of friends and done some

969
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: stuff in other cities. Like if it's a private they

970
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: want Bluebird in Dallas or in Chicago or something like that. Um,

971
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:52,400
Speaker 1: I may do one of those a month maybe or

972
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: once every six weeks. Yeah, or if like Bluebird calls,

973
00:41:56,080 --> 00:41:58,320
Speaker 1: which I love, you know, Erica and everybody there. So

974
00:41:58,400 --> 00:42:00,920
Speaker 1: if it's like hey, if it's a benefit and they

975
00:42:01,000 --> 00:42:02,640
Speaker 1: need they feel like they need me or I would

976
00:42:02,680 --> 00:42:04,239
Speaker 1: feel that sot, then I'll do that, you know, if

977
00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:06,560
Speaker 1: it's it's local and if it's all works out time wise.

978
00:42:06,640 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: So I definitely don't do it. Like you won't see

979
00:42:09,000 --> 00:42:11,600
Speaker 1: me going to just play the listening room or somewhere

980
00:42:11,800 --> 00:42:13,920
Speaker 1: for the door figure or something like that. You know,

981
00:42:14,200 --> 00:42:16,560
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear myself. You wouldn't even been

982
00:42:16,600 --> 00:42:19,320
Speaker 1: down to pick up the door. I would rather do

983
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:21,000
Speaker 1: like the benefit ors of the like, like I'm not

984
00:42:21,120 --> 00:42:23,239
Speaker 1: like trying to do play gigs on the side, I

985
00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,560
Speaker 1: would be so nervous. Um, I'm just giving, and I

986
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:27,960
Speaker 1: still I am up there singing, you know what I mean.

987
00:42:28,040 --> 00:42:29,719
Speaker 1: Every time I just like to look at rich people.

988
00:42:29,760 --> 00:42:34,239
Speaker 1: It's just fine, and I kind of felt bad because

989
00:42:34,440 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 1: there's like a constructions on my house right now. I mean,

990
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:40,319
Speaker 1: do you see all the Hiller trucks out there apparently happy? Yeah,

991
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: like my air conditioner has been more are they're not there? Well?

992
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:48,200
Speaker 1: The wing? Yeah yeah, the wing the other house house, see,

993
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,080
Speaker 1: you know I have, but yeah, I got a pretty

994
00:42:50,120 --> 00:42:52,680
Speaker 1: nice house now. And so it's like i'd like to

995
00:42:52,719 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: have air that works. Like I had a nine nights

996
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: in a month apartment in college, and they're always I

997
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:58,839
Speaker 1: got to bring a nice house and I can't get

998
00:42:58,840 --> 00:43:01,839
Speaker 1: the freaking air to work for seven days. So it's

999
00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: like the nicest hotel rooms, you gotta pay for WiFi

1000
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 1: or something. Then you get the cheap one and you

1001
00:43:05,239 --> 00:43:08,640
Speaker 1: get everything. Oh yeah, because they know they know you're paying. Yeah,

1002
00:43:08,640 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 1: you paid that. You'll play for whatever you'll pay. The

1003
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,640
Speaker 1: worst is because I if I fly like American airlines

1004
00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:19,640
Speaker 1: are Delta, They'll go, Okay, well, why here's WiFi for hour.

1005
00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:22,839
Speaker 1: I'm gonna you get an hour, Like I'm I fly

1006
00:43:22,920 --> 00:43:25,359
Speaker 1: Southwest so much that I I get the internet for free,

1007
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 1: and that'll make me not pick the other airline just

1008
00:43:27,560 --> 00:43:30,160
Speaker 1: because I get free internet. Let's see what you gotta

1009
00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,040
Speaker 1: have a today though, dude, Yeah, it's terrible. I've had

1010
00:43:34,080 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 1: a fan. I've just been living Luckily. I live in

1011
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:38,360
Speaker 1: a camper for a lot of my life, Like I

1012
00:43:38,480 --> 00:43:40,040
Speaker 1: literally didn't have a bedroom the whole life. So I

1013
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:42,759
Speaker 1: moved to a camper and uh at a box stand

1014
00:43:42,800 --> 00:43:44,680
Speaker 1: the blue on me and so, you know, it feels

1015
00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:49,000
Speaker 1: like home and it's like the old days. Let's see

1016
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:51,960
Speaker 1: Cole Swandells, you should be here wrote this one. You

1017
00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:54,080
Speaker 1: wrote this? If I'm remembering that, this is not any

1018
00:43:54,120 --> 00:43:59,200
Speaker 1: note to have. Were you guys in Boston or up? Yeah? Yeah,

1019
00:43:59,239 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: you know you know what? So, yeah, we were a

1020
00:44:00,600 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 1: Gillette Stadium. He was opening for Luke Luca Kenny. Uh,

1021
00:44:06,760 --> 00:44:08,560
Speaker 1: I would say it's Kenny, just going buy my knowledge.

1022
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,279
Speaker 1: You could have been Luke though, Yeah, I thought it

1023
00:44:10,320 --> 00:44:14,120
Speaker 1: was Luke. He's done. Sure, I've I've been out with Kenny.

1024
00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: Tom's right open for Kenny to the last time I

1025
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:18,160
Speaker 1: was that with him. But the record, I'm probably wrong.

1026
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I've been out both. I

1027
00:44:19,880 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 1: don't know it was actually, but we're out working on

1028
00:44:23,239 --> 00:44:25,279
Speaker 1: you know, his second record, Call is amazing. He's a

1029
00:44:25,320 --> 00:44:27,520
Speaker 1: great you know, he's a great songwriter first, even before

1030
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,560
Speaker 1: the art of stuff. He gets guts on whoever, you know,

1031
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 1: a bunch of people, So he's a great writer. So

1032
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:34,960
Speaker 1: that was that was another one of those magic moments. Um,

1033
00:44:35,400 --> 00:44:38,080
Speaker 1: you know the whole story there where my daughter is thirteen,

1034
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:40,080
Speaker 1: she loves country music. So I've taken a i'd try

1035
00:44:40,120 --> 00:44:42,640
Speaker 1: to take a big pano of Gillette Stadium with everybody

1036
00:44:42,680 --> 00:44:45,239
Speaker 1: going crazy, or a little video, and I just typed in,

1037
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:48,040
Speaker 1: you should be here and just send it obviously totally

1038
00:44:48,080 --> 00:44:50,600
Speaker 1: different meaning or whatever, but as we all would do,

1039
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:52,439
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, maybe that could be a title.

1040
00:44:52,440 --> 00:44:53,759
Speaker 1: And then we got back to the bus, wrote it

1041
00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,480
Speaker 1: really late, like after a set and everything, and um,

1042
00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:58,920
Speaker 1: I was like, man, so and anyway basically shared that

1043
00:44:59,000 --> 00:45:00,959
Speaker 1: title and like we all do in sessions, just talked

1044
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 1: about what that could be about, and and he you know,

1045
00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,720
Speaker 1: he lost his dad and that's just a really personal

1046
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:08,560
Speaker 1: song that I really consider myself fortunate to even be

1047
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:10,200
Speaker 1: a part of. Just to be able to speak to

1048
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:13,359
Speaker 1: that emotion and see the impact I had a lot

1049
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,000
Speaker 1: of people. So that was a that was a really

1050
00:45:15,480 --> 00:45:17,799
Speaker 1: a gift there to be able to write that with him. Hey, Mike,

1051
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: look up because I just from talking to Cole and

1052
00:45:22,080 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: it's crazy how I've tried to fight off friendships so

1053
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: I can be objective, like I really have tried to

1054
00:45:26,520 --> 00:45:28,799
Speaker 1: fight off friendships so hard. People are like, hey man,

1055
00:45:28,840 --> 00:45:30,719
Speaker 1: what's going on. You're like never talked And that wasn't

1056
00:45:30,719 --> 00:45:33,160
Speaker 1: really how I felt coming into I've been here five

1057
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:34,759
Speaker 1: and a half years now, and for the first two

1058
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:38,320
Speaker 1: or three it was Nope. Then you don't want it

1059
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:43,240
Speaker 1: to but some people are just good people like Dirks

1060
00:45:43,360 --> 00:45:46,840
Speaker 1: and Cole and Cole and I have a relationship. You

1061
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:49,640
Speaker 1: gotta be friends. You got and so just talking with

1062
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: Cole like away from microphones and by the way, Cole

1063
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: sent me everybody like since shoes, Now that's the cool

1064
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,360
Speaker 1: thing that we all know we're where. And I was

1065
00:45:57,520 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: just talking to Cole about that, and I remember it

1066
00:45:59,200 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: was Boston. But my if you'll look up and see

1067
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:02,799
Speaker 1: what Tori he was, if I happened to be right,

1068
00:46:03,160 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 1: which I probably not, and actually it's wrong about his

1069
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,040
Speaker 1: own I was cool. So you know that's what I

1070
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:12,000
Speaker 1: was working. Yeah, Okay, let's see, let's see if there's

1071
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: anything else. I mean, it's so much and you know,

1072
00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:18,719
Speaker 1: do you ever write songs about yourself. Not very often. No,

1073
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,080
Speaker 1: It's like people ask that and I always say, I

1074
00:46:22,200 --> 00:46:25,200
Speaker 1: start songs by myself. But then I'm I'm like, all right,

1075
00:46:25,239 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 1: who can help me finish this the right way? You know,

1076
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,080
Speaker 1: it's just so much more fun to co write. I'm

1077
00:46:29,120 --> 00:46:30,680
Speaker 1: not the guy you can put like in a cabin

1078
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:32,760
Speaker 1: for a week with a with a pen and paper

1079
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:35,640
Speaker 1: and say, you know, let's let's take our time and

1080
00:46:35,719 --> 00:46:37,600
Speaker 1: work on this. I have to be around people yelling

1081
00:46:37,640 --> 00:46:40,120
Speaker 1: out stuff and seeing what sticks, you know, a cabin

1082
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: for a week, a blink and the a blink. I

1083
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:46,000
Speaker 1: couldn't be like an author. I love. I love the

1084
00:46:46,040 --> 00:46:48,400
Speaker 1: process co writing. I used to write songs by myself

1085
00:46:48,480 --> 00:46:50,239
Speaker 1: like once a month or once every two months and

1086
00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 1: be like, all right, I'm gonna demo this right a

1087
00:46:51,680 --> 00:46:53,600
Speaker 1: boy myself, just to prove to myself I can still

1088
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: do that. But I was like, forget that a few

1089
00:46:56,400 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 1: years ago. Well then let me say, as two time

1090
00:46:59,280 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 1: best selling author myself, it sucks, so yeah, I cannot.

1091
00:47:04,400 --> 00:47:06,640
Speaker 1: That sounds like torture to me. I wrote this the

1092
00:47:06,800 --> 00:47:08,839
Speaker 1: first book. If I canna be self indulgent for a second,

1093
00:47:08,880 --> 00:47:10,759
Speaker 1: I wrote the first book, and I was like, well,

1094
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:12,080
Speaker 1: I know what I was doing, right, I was just

1095
00:47:12,120 --> 00:47:14,800
Speaker 1: writing essays after essay and I was like, this is terrible.

1096
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm never doing again because it's terrible, right, And I

1097
00:47:17,560 --> 00:47:20,319
Speaker 1: didn't feel like I was so then I'm I said

1098
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:24,000
Speaker 1: to myself, I'm never writing another book. I've completely Chumbawamba

1099
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:27,399
Speaker 1: did one hit wonder best selling four weeks, like I'm

1100
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: on top forever. I'm I'm a thousand percent. And then

1101
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:33,600
Speaker 1: I did a ted talk on it's called winning by

1102
00:47:33,680 --> 00:47:36,759
Speaker 1: losing and how I feel that I've done all my

1103
00:47:36,920 --> 00:47:39,200
Speaker 1: learning through it not working, Like that's what's that's made

1104
00:47:39,200 --> 00:47:40,480
Speaker 1: me stronger. And the things I used to think with

1105
00:47:40,520 --> 00:47:43,960
Speaker 1: dispantages were actually super advantages like growing up tough, that's

1106
00:47:44,000 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 1: an advantage for me now. And so I wrote the

1107
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,879
Speaker 1: second book and it was so tedious because I knew

1108
00:47:48,880 --> 00:47:51,239
Speaker 1: what I was getting it. It was terrible. Yeah, I

1109
00:47:51,320 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: don't like even that word. That word scares me. Any

1110
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,160
Speaker 1: of that stuff. I want people to. I just need

1111
00:47:56,239 --> 00:47:58,440
Speaker 1: that response, not that I need approval, but I just

1112
00:47:58,520 --> 00:48:00,759
Speaker 1: need company, like I've never been there, like I'm gonna

1113
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 1: I've never lived by myself. I've always said like, hey,

1114
00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:05,000
Speaker 1: I want people around, let's go, let's go. Never do it.

1115
00:48:05,360 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: Um yeah, I'm never doing another that. I can barely

1116
00:48:08,719 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 1: do it in a room with a couple of other people.

1117
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,239
Speaker 1: I'm still bouncing off the walls usually, So that would

1118
00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:15,120
Speaker 1: be a punishment if I had to do that, like

1119
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:16,840
Speaker 1: come out, come out in eight hours and be like,

1120
00:48:16,880 --> 00:48:20,759
Speaker 1: oh my gosh, it's tough to just sit. It's tough

1121
00:48:20,800 --> 00:48:21,880
Speaker 1: to do it. It's tougher to do it. You do.

1122
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,319
Speaker 1: You do it at such an elite level. I've written

1123
00:48:23,320 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: two freaking books. But I mean it's because then you're

1124
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:28,440
Speaker 1: questioning everything, right do you? I mean, I guess you

1125
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:29,920
Speaker 1: have people do you still like, hey, what do you

1126
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 1: think about this pass that you can't you let it

1127
00:48:32,520 --> 00:48:35,040
Speaker 1: go because when they're writing it. I guess, yeah, yeah,

1128
00:48:35,120 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: it's just I would just write, and I have edited

1129
00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,560
Speaker 1: what I learned in the same thing with a co

1130
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 1: writer in your way, but I didn't. I just like

1131
00:48:41,400 --> 00:48:43,759
Speaker 1: editors fixed words and fixed type, like that should be

1132
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,680
Speaker 1: a cymical life. Yeah, that's really what I thought a

1133
00:48:45,680 --> 00:48:48,440
Speaker 1: book was. But my what what was fantastic was and

1134
00:48:48,480 --> 00:48:50,239
Speaker 1: I guess and an editor there's an art to it,

1135
00:48:50,320 --> 00:48:52,719
Speaker 1: because my editor she would go, hey, you should write

1136
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:54,960
Speaker 1: more in this, she would say, right about this, but

1137
00:48:55,080 --> 00:48:56,920
Speaker 1: she goes, you should really expand on this, or she

1138
00:48:56,960 --> 00:49:01,000
Speaker 1: would go this sucks, get off this. And so it's

1139
00:49:01,080 --> 00:49:04,960
Speaker 1: really eyeballs, you know, checking your content. Yeah, and so

1140
00:49:05,440 --> 00:49:07,400
Speaker 1: I'm I say it now, I'm never I'm two in.

1141
00:49:07,480 --> 00:49:10,359
Speaker 1: I got two best sellers. We'll see the next time

1142
00:49:10,360 --> 00:49:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm in, you'll you'll have three. And then that's Editing

1143
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:15,080
Speaker 1: is a big part of the writing to like even

1144
00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:17,359
Speaker 1: the guys that we sign, and I'll learned that early

1145
00:49:17,440 --> 00:49:19,760
Speaker 1: on that it's pre writing and rewriting is the majority,

1146
00:49:19,840 --> 00:49:22,000
Speaker 1: you know, like you spit out this song or maybe

1147
00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:25,000
Speaker 1: you spit out a great passage in this small window

1148
00:49:25,000 --> 00:49:26,760
Speaker 1: of time, and then the rest of it's like, oh, shoot,

1149
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:28,520
Speaker 1: did I say that the right way? What if it

1150
00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: was this? And then going all the way around to

1151
00:49:30,239 --> 00:49:32,080
Speaker 1: come back to the to the right thing. So just

1152
00:49:32,160 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 1: writing in general, it's tough. Like when people say, you know,

1153
00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: do you love writing songs? Like no, it's it's it sucks,

1154
00:49:39,120 --> 00:49:41,240
Speaker 1: but I love starting songs and then I love listening

1155
00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:43,320
Speaker 1: back when they're done, you know, But the part in

1156
00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:46,600
Speaker 1: between is like s papers, it's like going to the gym. Yeah,

1157
00:49:46,719 --> 00:49:51,680
Speaker 1: like I like them. That's fun. And then and then

1158
00:49:51,719 --> 00:49:53,560
Speaker 1: I like when it's over. I hate all the part

1159
00:49:53,840 --> 00:49:56,160
Speaker 1: there was in the results, but you don't want the Yeah, yeah,

1160
00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,440
Speaker 1: it's it never gets fun. Hey mighty, do you have

1161
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:00,680
Speaker 1: I don't know what the answer the you have the information?

1162
00:50:01,080 --> 00:50:04,160
Speaker 1: The answer? Okay, so the question is now this is

1163
00:50:04,200 --> 00:50:05,960
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. He hasn't tipped me

1164
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: off at all. Uh, Cole Swindel, you should be here.

1165
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,320
Speaker 1: They wrote in Boston. I knew that just from my

1166
00:50:12,400 --> 00:50:13,960
Speaker 1: brain and if you want to look at my note

1167
00:50:13,960 --> 00:50:16,880
Speaker 1: you can, I'll have her the song the um I

1168
00:50:16,960 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: knew that from but I assumed it was the Kinney tour.

1169
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,680
Speaker 1: Now I know that I know Coles on the Kinney

1170
00:50:22,719 --> 00:50:24,160
Speaker 1: tour because we talked about it, so it could have

1171
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:25,880
Speaker 1: been polluting my brain and just knowing that. But you

1172
00:50:25,960 --> 00:50:28,279
Speaker 1: think it was Cole and Luke? I think before that

1173
00:50:28,400 --> 00:50:30,160
Speaker 1: I thought it was like so we wrote that way before?

1174
00:50:30,200 --> 00:50:33,520
Speaker 1: You know, like right, who was Cole Swindell playing with

1175
00:50:33,600 --> 00:50:39,080
Speaker 1: when they wrote that song? Mike, it was Luke the Ashley.

1176
00:50:42,040 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: That's funny. Let me slam through some of these real

1177
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:47,000
Speaker 1: quick that that they are. They're cool Dark, Spentley Black,

1178
00:50:47,080 --> 00:50:49,000
Speaker 1: here you go. And how about that when you get

1179
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:52,120
Speaker 1: a record named after your song? Yeah, that's awesome like that.

1180
00:50:52,840 --> 00:50:54,439
Speaker 1: You also know it's gonna be a freaking single most

1181
00:50:56,960 --> 00:51:00,799
Speaker 1: when you say most of the time, it's half the time. Now,

1182
00:51:01,000 --> 00:51:05,200
Speaker 1: I'll take it. I'd rather be that than the Target

1183
00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120
Speaker 1: you know, exclusive. But oh yeah when that happens too,

1184
00:51:08,320 --> 00:51:10,640
Speaker 1: because that also meets the songs burned too. Oh done,

1185
00:51:10,719 --> 00:51:14,399
Speaker 1: Yeah that happens. I'm like, what, So what we're talking

1186
00:51:14,400 --> 00:51:15,800
Speaker 1: about here is did you put the record out and

1187
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:18,600
Speaker 1: then Target goes we like something specially or whoever this?

1188
00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:20,960
Speaker 1: But yeah, it's like yeah, or it's basically the label saying, hey,

1189
00:51:21,000 --> 00:51:23,280
Speaker 1: we're not gonna put this on the album that actually

1190
00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 1: could possibly be successful, but it's it's finished, so we're

1191
00:51:26,239 --> 00:51:28,560
Speaker 1: gonna offer that as an exclusive to whoever you know.

1192
00:51:29,000 --> 00:51:30,920
Speaker 1: And so all of a sudden, Sam's Clubs got that

1193
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,719
Speaker 1: version and you're done. Let's see, let's Luke Bryan kicked

1194
00:51:35,719 --> 00:51:38,960
Speaker 1: the death. Oh no, no, no, Derek's. I was just

1195
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,560
Speaker 1: saying that that the new Derek's album. Talk about it.

1196
00:51:41,600 --> 00:51:43,200
Speaker 1: You're talking about him and Cole being great guys, but

1197
00:51:43,440 --> 00:51:45,440
Speaker 1: Dirk's is so so down to Earth and we just

1198
00:51:45,520 --> 00:51:48,360
Speaker 1: worked on that Mountain album. He was so awesome and

1199
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:50,759
Speaker 1: he took us all to uh tell your took a

1200
00:51:50,800 --> 00:51:52,600
Speaker 1: group of us and he's just he's just a great guy.

1201
00:51:52,600 --> 00:51:54,480
Speaker 1: I love that guy. So I was I've known Dirk

1202
00:51:54,560 --> 00:51:56,719
Speaker 1: since right before we had a record, You're right, when

1203
00:51:56,760 --> 00:51:58,160
Speaker 1: he got a record deal. Were set up like on

1204
00:51:58,200 --> 00:52:00,479
Speaker 1: a blind right like a long time ago. And since

1205
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: then I've been like, man, I want to really get

1206
00:52:02,080 --> 00:52:03,560
Speaker 1: a song, you know, I have a hit with this guy.

1207
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,000
Speaker 1: So that was a special little bucket list for me,

1208
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:07,840
Speaker 1: just because I've known him and loved it stuff for

1209
00:52:07,880 --> 00:52:09,480
Speaker 1: so long and sometimes you just don't work, you know.

1210
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,359
Speaker 1: We wrote, wrote songs all the time and then him landed,

1211
00:52:11,840 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: so that one was a special one. Did you jump

1212
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,120
Speaker 1: on the trampoline with him? Did he? Does he do that? It? Right?

1213
00:52:15,160 --> 00:52:16,920
Speaker 1: So just I have not done that. You haven't a

1214
00:52:16,960 --> 00:52:20,640
Speaker 1: trampoline you ever? You ever watch or reading Tony Robin

1215
00:52:20,680 --> 00:52:22,879
Speaker 1: stuff at all? No? I know that is but no, Okay,

1216
00:52:22,920 --> 00:52:24,560
Speaker 1: So he jumps on trampoline before he goes on stage,

1217
00:52:25,239 --> 00:52:28,120
Speaker 1: and Derek's jumps on trampolines and it's like I feel good. Yeah,

1218
00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:30,800
Speaker 1: he gets his energy yeah, I did not do that

1219
00:52:30,880 --> 00:52:34,279
Speaker 1: with him. He hiked with him. You know, let's see,

1220
00:52:34,320 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: look at Luke, Brian kicked the dust up very good.

1221
00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:44,960
Speaker 1: I play it again from Luke. He was like, by

1222
00:52:45,000 --> 00:52:46,879
Speaker 1: the way, John Party dirt on my boots, you mentioned

1223
00:52:46,920 --> 00:52:50,359
Speaker 1: that we actually have the red demo. Ret brought the demo, No, Jesse,

1224
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:53,239
Speaker 1: Jesse brought them. That's a different demo. Yeah, that's a

1225
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:56,319
Speaker 1: different vibe. And and so he played it on he did, Yeah,

1226
00:52:56,480 --> 00:52:59,800
Speaker 1: here is John Party dirt on my boots, and this

1227
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:02,839
Speaker 1: is rhet singing it. That's why I was thinking rhet

1228
00:53:03,200 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 1: singing it. But Jesse Fraser kind of urs the demo. Here,

1229
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:18,919
Speaker 1: here's some of that. This is cool up the crack

1230
00:53:19,040 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: and don't just trying to get paid can't find o shame.

1231
00:53:28,680 --> 00:53:32,560
Speaker 1: I love that, and I think it's cooler because of

1232
00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:35,359
Speaker 1: how John did it. When because John crushed it John

1233
00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:38,279
Speaker 1: Party style. That's like the best feeling too as a writer,

1234
00:53:38,360 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: when you're like, Okay, I wonder what this is gonna

1235
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:41,880
Speaker 1: sound like because you never know, you know, John is

1236
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:44,839
Speaker 1: an amazing singer. But when bron Write at Universal played

1237
00:53:44,880 --> 00:53:47,120
Speaker 1: that played the final version, I was like, Wow, bar

1238
00:53:47,200 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: Butler really really spend time nailing that, you know, like

1239
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:52,759
Speaker 1: it's it's total John Party owned it, you know what

1240
00:53:52,760 --> 00:53:54,719
Speaker 1: I mean, he made it his own. So but with Jesse,

1241
00:53:55,520 --> 00:53:57,000
Speaker 1: Jesse is great at this. But a lot of these,

1242
00:53:57,360 --> 00:53:58,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys, the rule is like you

1243
00:53:58,760 --> 00:54:01,239
Speaker 1: can always rein it in a little bit, so why

1244
00:54:01,280 --> 00:54:02,680
Speaker 1: not get their attention, you know what I mean? Like

1245
00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 1: if if this shows up in John's or Barts or

1246
00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,560
Speaker 1: Brian rain Buy's email, then it's like what is that?

1247
00:54:07,680 --> 00:54:13,600
Speaker 1: You know? When it comes on? So that's another I

1248
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 1: can hear him sing all day. I mean, when he's

1249
00:54:15,160 --> 00:54:19,080
Speaker 1: singing something, it's it's right on a little break there,

1250
00:54:20,280 --> 00:54:23,879
Speaker 1: j Frey magic there here showing off for a minute. Yeah,

1251
00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,200
Speaker 1: that's somebody. Always send pictures of Jesse and I his

1252
00:54:26,239 --> 00:54:28,400
Speaker 1: pictures of shoes to each other. Oh man, it's like

1253
00:54:28,520 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: sex sex. He's my god, he knows what's up. I'll

1254
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:33,719
Speaker 1: run him by him, like if we're at a c

1255
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:35,520
Speaker 1: M is like, I mean I'm in the hotel, like

1256
00:54:35,719 --> 00:54:36,920
Speaker 1: I don't even have the main shoes. I'm like, I

1257
00:54:36,920 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: don't even know if these are work. And she's like

1258
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 1: just texting to Jesse was all right, He's like those

1259
00:54:42,120 --> 00:54:44,960
Speaker 1: those are clean. Look at this, I feel like I

1260
00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:46,400
Speaker 1: have all this stuff. I don't want to talk. I

1261
00:54:46,440 --> 00:54:48,120
Speaker 1: mean there's interesting. Guy, I was not even talking about

1262
00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:51,160
Speaker 1: some of this stuff. Um yeah, what what makes you

1263
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 1: happy right now? Oh? Man? I mean family was the

1264
00:54:54,200 --> 00:54:55,640
Speaker 1: first thing that popped in my head. We just took

1265
00:54:55,680 --> 00:54:59,799
Speaker 1: a almost three week trip to Europe, you know. Uh,

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00:55:00,040 --> 00:55:05,200
Speaker 1: and we went to Italy, France, Spain, Switzerland and Ireland.

1267
00:55:05,960 --> 00:55:08,680
Speaker 1: So I mean I've I've always before when my wife

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00:55:08,719 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: and I got married, before um we had any success

1269
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:13,520
Speaker 1: or any savings account. Then I was like, man, if

1270
00:55:13,560 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: this ever works, I want to travel, you know, like

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00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,319
Speaker 1: I want to see other cultures, want to see the world.

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00:55:18,400 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 1: So it was it was a it was a really

1273
00:55:21,239 --> 00:55:23,960
Speaker 1: a blessed time just because we got to you know,

1274
00:55:24,040 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 1: obviously see crazy stuff. And my kids are ten, thirteen, fifteen.

1275
00:55:26,719 --> 00:55:30,320
Speaker 1: There we're walking around Rome, while around Pompeii in sinquit

1276
00:55:30,400 --> 00:55:32,440
Speaker 1: Tera and all these places that are just like, you know,

1277
00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:36,120
Speaker 1: surreal things to me. We went paragliding in Switzerland, so

1278
00:55:36,440 --> 00:55:38,600
Speaker 1: anything like that, like doing first things. There's places I

1279
00:55:38,680 --> 00:55:40,719
Speaker 1: really want to see, um, things I want to do,

1280
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:44,120
Speaker 1: so being able to being able to do that with them, uh,

1281
00:55:44,360 --> 00:55:46,960
Speaker 1: I really love that. And I don't like RESTful vacations.

1282
00:55:47,880 --> 00:55:49,400
Speaker 1: Like my wife wants to kill me because I'm not

1283
00:55:49,520 --> 00:55:51,279
Speaker 1: like if we go to the beach, I'm like, Okay,

1284
00:55:51,360 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 1: let's go play football, you know, or let's do something

1285
00:55:54,160 --> 00:55:56,440
Speaker 1: to take a walk. Um, I don't relax. Well, I

1286
00:55:56,480 --> 00:55:58,560
Speaker 1: don't like I don't like this sleep as a requirement.

1287
00:55:58,640 --> 00:56:01,560
Speaker 1: But um, this was like the perfect trip for me,

1288
00:56:01,600 --> 00:56:03,800
Speaker 1: and we just got backswats on my mind, but just

1289
00:56:03,920 --> 00:56:07,000
Speaker 1: kind of conquering a town or a country, not going

1290
00:56:07,040 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: and seeing all the all the cool stuff and be like, wow,

1291
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:11,200
Speaker 1: this is awesome. Let's get a picture this, Let's experience

1292
00:56:11,320 --> 00:56:13,640
Speaker 1: this food or this hike or this view or this

1293
00:56:13,719 --> 00:56:16,359
Speaker 1: mountain or this this beach. Those are things I really

1294
00:56:16,560 --> 00:56:18,960
Speaker 1: I really love spending time with them and us doing

1295
00:56:19,000 --> 00:56:20,920
Speaker 1: all that together as a family. Is they crazy too?

1296
00:56:21,239 --> 00:56:23,880
Speaker 1: I grew up Mountain Pine, Arkansas, population sevend and I

1297
00:56:23,920 --> 00:56:25,640
Speaker 1: never thought I would get to see you're talking about

1298
00:56:25,680 --> 00:56:30,960
Speaker 1: stuff and your face it's it's almost make belief because

1299
00:56:31,040 --> 00:56:33,239
Speaker 1: you're going up where we grew up. That's not a thing.

1300
00:56:33,520 --> 00:56:36,000
Speaker 1: No people go to Florida to wherever they can drive

1301
00:56:36,080 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: to and don't even stay on the beach, you know

1302
00:56:37,760 --> 00:56:39,319
Speaker 1: wherevery then get a house to drive to the beach

1303
00:56:39,520 --> 00:56:42,080
Speaker 1: and that was it. Those were vacations and nothing nothing

1304
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:43,879
Speaker 1: wrong with that at all. And some people don't want

1305
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:45,560
Speaker 1: to traveling is not one of their things. But yeah,

1306
00:56:45,600 --> 00:56:47,400
Speaker 1: to be able to to get on a plane and

1307
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:50,000
Speaker 1: fly to Venice or something still sounds crazy to me

1308
00:56:50,080 --> 00:56:52,640
Speaker 1: that we can. But that's even possible, you know. So, Um,

1309
00:56:52,880 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 1: I went to Japan and now I looked around and

1310
00:56:55,880 --> 00:56:59,160
Speaker 1: I was like, uh, is this TV show? Yeah? Oh yeah,

1311
00:56:59,160 --> 00:57:00,839
Speaker 1: it all looks like it's a dreaming show or whatever,

1312
00:57:00,960 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: like it's to set up. And it's also like, I'm

1313
00:57:02,480 --> 00:57:05,600
Speaker 1: from Arkansas, like I think it's what That's why we

1314
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:07,239
Speaker 1: like it so much, because it's like such a stark

1315
00:57:07,360 --> 00:57:10,359
Speaker 1: difference and unfamiliar instead of you know, you're just knowing

1316
00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: everybody in the town and all that. So I really

1317
00:57:12,719 --> 00:57:15,920
Speaker 1: love that. I love um. I love being able to

1318
00:57:16,600 --> 00:57:19,920
Speaker 1: travel around hanging out with them, um playing you know

1319
00:57:20,000 --> 00:57:23,520
Speaker 1: basketball with him, a huge basketball and yeah we play,

1320
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,960
Speaker 1: we play pickup games. Come on out, we play it. Dude,

1321
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: I'm in if you just tell I'm not kidding my

1322
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: house and I'm like, I am in as long as

1323
00:57:31,280 --> 00:57:32,840
Speaker 1: it's in the morning when I work. No, no, it's

1324
00:57:32,840 --> 00:57:34,880
Speaker 1: a night. It's always like so you may be about

1325
00:57:34,880 --> 00:57:37,200
Speaker 1: to be I know, I'll play. It's like, well, all

1326
00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,600
Speaker 1: kind of kids. Um, let's see like Luke Laire I

1327
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,360
Speaker 1: was with him today, he's he's a great basketball player.

1328
00:57:44,360 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 1: His wife, Um, he's he plays. Matt Jenkins, who who

1329
00:57:48,800 --> 00:57:51,200
Speaker 1: writes for a company, he's great. Um who's too good?

1330
00:57:52,120 --> 00:57:53,960
Speaker 1: Shows up and it's too good and You're like, come on,

1331
00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:55,960
Speaker 1: well they know people know it's kind of a j

1332
00:57:56,080 --> 00:57:58,800
Speaker 1: V game. So there's some varsity level games, and I'm like,

1333
00:57:58,840 --> 00:58:01,080
Speaker 1: all right. I always make sure, Like when somebody's like, hey,

1334
00:58:01,080 --> 00:58:02,520
Speaker 1: can I bring my friend, I'm like, well, how tall

1335
00:58:02,560 --> 00:58:05,040
Speaker 1: are they? You know? Or I'll say can they dunk

1336
00:58:05,160 --> 00:58:07,520
Speaker 1: in traffic? Over people like does that happen during the

1337
00:58:07,560 --> 00:58:08,960
Speaker 1: course of the game. And then I'm like they should

1338
00:58:08,960 --> 00:58:11,680
Speaker 1: probably go somewhere else, you know. But um, Shale Mooney

1339
00:58:11,720 --> 00:58:15,320
Speaker 1: came out the last couple of times draining some threes. Shame. Yeah,

1340
00:58:15,480 --> 00:58:18,480
Speaker 1: basketball players you never you never know. Like I remember

1341
00:58:18,520 --> 00:58:20,880
Speaker 1: being out on the road and Justin Moore jumped in

1342
00:58:20,960 --> 00:58:24,520
Speaker 1: on a game I was out of super athletic. Yeah,

1343
00:58:24,640 --> 00:58:26,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, thank god, I'm not guarding him.

1344
00:58:26,200 --> 00:58:28,320
Speaker 1: It was just nailing threes and everybody because he's short

1345
00:58:28,360 --> 00:58:29,840
Speaker 1: and you go, there's no way to do. But he

1346
00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:31,920
Speaker 1: and he kind of casually said like yeah, I'll play

1347
00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:33,360
Speaker 1: with you all. I was like okay, come on, and

1348
00:58:33,440 --> 00:58:35,120
Speaker 1: he was like oh after the game, like yeah, he

1349
00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:39,120
Speaker 1: won the state championship. School we played, we played ball

1350
00:58:39,600 --> 00:58:41,440
Speaker 1: thirty miles from each other growing up. Oh, that's the

1351
00:58:41,480 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: same conference in Arkansas. We both went to a tiny

1352
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:45,680
Speaker 1: but you gotta come play. It's like he could play.

1353
00:58:45,720 --> 00:58:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, people know how to play. They usually played

1354
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: in high school. It's usually not a lot of like

1355
00:58:49,080 --> 00:58:51,280
Speaker 1: no SEC guys or there, you know they played Division

1356
00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:53,400
Speaker 1: one or anything like that. But I love my friends

1357
00:58:53,440 --> 00:58:55,680
Speaker 1: from like either church or from just that I've known.

1358
00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: Um come and there's no music talk. Nobody you wouldn't

1359
00:58:58,640 --> 00:59:00,840
Speaker 1: get would be against the rules. Somebody say, hey man,

1360
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: how do you ask you something about your career? Like, hey,

1361
00:59:03,160 --> 00:59:06,320
Speaker 1: are you cutting my song? That can't happen so technical, Yeah,

1362
00:59:06,360 --> 00:59:09,200
Speaker 1: that's forbid. Technically you're out. You're out, like I'm in.

1363
00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,120
Speaker 1: If you if I if it's a real because I

1364
00:59:11,680 --> 00:59:14,080
Speaker 1: you know, I try to do I like to compete.

1365
00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: Everything's running for me, that's torture to that, and being

1366
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: a room by myself would be equivalent. I cannot. Yeah

1367
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:23,600
Speaker 1: running first of all, it hurts. I got bad knees

1368
00:59:23,600 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: and ankles. But yeah, it's just like where are we going?

1369
00:59:25,760 --> 00:59:28,000
Speaker 1: What are we doing? Racing? Yeah? Why are we at? Somebody?

1370
00:59:28,120 --> 00:59:31,360
Speaker 1: Somebody chased me? Give me a zombie love. I love basket.

1371
00:59:31,440 --> 00:59:34,880
Speaker 1: I love watching obviously growing up in Kentucky. Um, that's

1372
00:59:34,920 --> 00:59:36,920
Speaker 1: what there is there. You know, some big, big UK,

1373
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:40,360
Speaker 1: big Wildcats fan, big Blue nation. But also we got

1374
00:59:40,400 --> 00:59:41,680
Speaker 1: to go to some NBA games this year. It's like

1375
00:59:41,720 --> 00:59:44,520
Speaker 1: the family to to see Lebron try to try to

1376
00:59:44,560 --> 00:59:48,000
Speaker 1: beat the Warriors. Yeah, usually Lebron fan, not a Warriors fan. Um.

1377
00:59:48,720 --> 00:59:50,320
Speaker 1: And and yeah we try to play. We're gonna play

1378
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: next week. Did you go into arms that should you

1379
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:54,800
Speaker 1: guys all go over the game? Yes? Yes? And I

1380
00:59:54,840 --> 00:59:58,240
Speaker 1: didn't sit with him, um yeah, look like yeah, yeah,

1381
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,200
Speaker 1: yeah that's all so I love and stuff like that.

1382
01:00:01,520 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: You're telling about what makes what It turns me on

1383
01:00:04,120 --> 01:00:06,440
Speaker 1: and makes me happy. I love doing that. I get

1384
01:00:06,480 --> 01:00:09,400
Speaker 1: to go watch. I'm a huge fan, like my whole right,

1385
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:12,840
Speaker 1: and I went to Game six oh that was last year,

1386
01:00:13,520 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 1: So that that's exciting. I'm a Diehart Razorbacks fan, like

1387
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:21,400
Speaker 1: you're a Kentucky fan. The Arkansas tattoo Nolan Richardson many champions.

1388
01:00:21,720 --> 01:00:24,200
Speaker 1: That's the one thing in my life. Yeah, that was

1389
01:00:24,280 --> 01:00:26,240
Speaker 1: like I'm in high school then, so that I was

1390
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,440
Speaker 1: loving that stuff playing watching Oh, I just love the

1391
01:00:29,960 --> 01:00:33,280
Speaker 1: something that basketball. I love baseball. My youngest son plays baseball.

1392
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 1: I can barely sit there, sit still long enough to

1393
01:00:35,600 --> 01:00:37,600
Speaker 1: watch the games. That again, I'm like, oh my gosh,

1394
01:00:37,680 --> 01:00:41,000
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. Um. I appreciate basic No soccer

1395
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:43,080
Speaker 1: can I went to soccer. Gameto played soccer. I can

1396
01:00:43,160 --> 01:00:45,200
Speaker 1: kind of get with soccer if they would just score more.

1397
01:00:45,280 --> 01:00:47,760
Speaker 1: They scored No. I went to the Nashville soccer one

1398
01:00:47,840 --> 01:00:49,880
Speaker 1: they played since and it was they finished the game

1399
01:00:49,920 --> 01:00:53,240
Speaker 1: at zero z. That's not okay. They basically just wasted time.

1400
01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:57,200
Speaker 1: They kicked it around they did. I do think soccer

1401
01:00:57,280 --> 01:01:00,200
Speaker 1: athletes are absolutely like the most athletic. Not are you

1402
01:01:00,240 --> 01:01:01,800
Speaker 1: how are they doing that? And you know what's or

1403
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,960
Speaker 1: a gymnast, But I'm not going to watch. I spent

1404
01:01:04,120 --> 01:01:06,439
Speaker 1: three hours watching people run back and forth with no goals.

1405
01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 1: If it's minor league. Need to be thirty one to

1406
01:01:08,440 --> 01:01:11,240
Speaker 1: twelve in soccer. I like to watch the I tell people,

1407
01:01:11,280 --> 01:01:13,880
Speaker 1: I like to watch things that I can do a

1408
01:01:13,960 --> 01:01:16,600
Speaker 1: worse version of, and I appreciate it more like I

1409
01:01:17,000 --> 01:01:19,360
Speaker 1: love the preads. But when I go to those games,

1410
01:01:19,440 --> 01:01:21,400
Speaker 1: I can't even stand up on skates. It's like I

1411
01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,600
Speaker 1: can't fully appreciate, Like that all looks like a magic trick.

1412
01:01:23,600 --> 01:01:25,200
Speaker 1: I only know how you guys are doing that. When

1413
01:01:25,240 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: I watch basketball, it's like, wow, I know how hard

1414
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:29,480
Speaker 1: it is to do that move. I cannot believe that

1415
01:01:29,640 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 1: just happened. You know. It's like a finesse driven move

1416
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:34,240
Speaker 1: or whatever. So I'd feel like I can appreciate that more.

1417
01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:37,440
Speaker 1: Um obviously watching all my kids, but I love that

1418
01:01:37,480 --> 01:01:39,440
Speaker 1: they all play basketball. That was kind of a requirement

1419
01:01:39,480 --> 01:01:44,600
Speaker 1: for food and shelter from entertainment. All right, well, there

1420
01:01:44,680 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 1: we have it. There, we've done easily an hour here,

1421
01:01:48,400 --> 01:01:51,440
Speaker 1: yea three hours to you. Huh no, no, no, this

1422
01:01:51,560 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: is great, easy easy. We'll get their conditioning, you know.

1423
01:01:55,080 --> 01:01:58,160
Speaker 1: So it's up here. Man. I woke up like just

1424
01:01:58,320 --> 01:02:00,560
Speaker 1: covered and sweat this morning. Then I gotta go be

1425
01:02:00,600 --> 01:02:02,960
Speaker 1: happy and entertain people for four hours, five hours tonight

1426
01:02:03,000 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: as you get some I do have to it tonight,

1427
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:06,160
Speaker 1: but I mean even the morning that I will go.

1428
01:02:07,440 --> 01:02:09,480
Speaker 1: I feel like I've been running, and I hate running.

1429
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,760
Speaker 1: Two Episode one thirty two, Ashley Gorley. This guy here,

1430
01:02:13,200 --> 01:02:16,000
Speaker 1: the most famous person you don't even know, that's what

1431
01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,800
Speaker 1: it is. The most famous person you do, you probably

1432
01:02:18,800 --> 01:02:22,520
Speaker 1: haven't even heard of. Super famous. Okay, there we go. Um,

1433
01:02:22,640 --> 01:02:24,960
Speaker 1: I appreciate you. Yeah, man, thank you. I hope, I

1434
01:02:25,080 --> 01:02:26,960
Speaker 1: hope you didn't just wasn't like pulling tine. I know

1435
01:02:27,000 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: you don't do a lot of things. No, this is

1436
01:02:29,000 --> 01:02:32,640
Speaker 1: this is the easiest one of done normal. You know,

1437
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: follow all the cute cards when they're saying stop stop talking,

1438
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:38,760
Speaker 1: and I'm just kidding. It's it's me, actually, Mike. It's

1439
01:02:38,800 --> 01:02:44,680
Speaker 1: some hiller air condition. Guys downstairs just watching number thanks

1440
01:02:44,760 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 1: to Bombas and this guy here with right now thirty

1441
01:02:47,720 --> 01:02:50,200
Speaker 1: seven number ones and and uh, I think you got

1442
01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:51,840
Speaker 1: a career. I think right now you should feel good.

1443
01:02:51,880 --> 01:02:53,640
Speaker 1: You have something going, you got a momentum, some moment

1444
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:55,600
Speaker 1: trying to make it happen. All right, and we'll see

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01:02:55,600 --> 01:02:57,160
Speaker 1: you guys next time in the Bodbycast. Thank you everybody,