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Speaker 1: This is our life, this is our passion. That's the

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Speaker 1: spirit we bring to this show. I'm Luke Thomas, I'm

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Speaker 1: Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 2: This this Morning Combat.

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Speaker 3: Hey it's the first of the month. No it's not.

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Speaker 3: It's the twenty first of the month.

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Speaker 2: Hi everyone, on this June twenty first, twenty twenty three.

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Speaker 2: My name is Luke Thomas, and welcome to the Morning Combat.

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Speaker 2: I am merely one half of your hosting duo. I

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Speaker 2: join you for the Capitol of Mistatos anitos right here

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Speaker 2: in Washington, DC, along with my partner in crime. He

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Speaker 2: takes geography lessons and history lessons from vjpenn dot com.

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Speaker 3: Yeah it's Brian Campbell. Hi, Brian Campbell.

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Speaker 4: The Alpha is back, Luke. You said June twenty first,

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Speaker 4: and that just triggered something in my memory. Banks twenty

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Speaker 4: seven years ago today, I graduated high school. How old, hey,

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Speaker 4: is that?

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Speaker 3: That's pretty old?

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Speaker 4: How old do you have to be that twenty seven

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Speaker 4: years ago you've graduated high school, yet you still look

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Speaker 4: this young and vibrant, right? I mean this is what

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Speaker 4: a life?

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Speaker 5: Right?

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Speaker 4: What a life?

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 3: Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Young and vibrant is one way to describe the way

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Speaker 2: you look blotchy and dying is another.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, Luke, aren't we all though? Aren't we all? Hey?

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm really excited about though? Can I

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Speaker 4: be really honest with you. There's two men Saturday afternoon

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Speaker 4: who are going out bang Luke, and I'm getting I'm

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Speaker 4: getting I'm getting itchy for this.

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Speaker 2: Are you so this is on your only pipes account?

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Speaker 3: Well, these two guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no, we don't live stream on that. Cameo dot

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Speaker 4: coms Ryan Campbell. No, I'm talking about Topuria Emmett. But

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Speaker 4: I'm sure we'll talk about that today. All right.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we have a lot to get to. As I

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Speaker 3: drink my C four.

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Speaker 4: I mean what just go full four loco, Luke? Okay,

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Speaker 4: I mean really, what are we doing here?

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Speaker 2: I gotta tell you they don't do this as much

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Speaker 2: these days, like there's no leaving. Well this is that's

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Speaker 2: not quite true, Like you still see some of this,

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Speaker 2: the worst names you could possibly imagine, like the most

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Speaker 2: aggressive ones.

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Speaker 3: There was one they don't even make it anymore.

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Speaker 2: I don't think that it was a fat burner that

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Speaker 2: was literally called and I'm not exaggerating Arson, it was

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Speaker 4: It's like twenty seven cups of coffee. I mean it's

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Speaker 4: like I was.

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Speaker 2: Like, guys, I don't think like torching people's homes is

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Speaker 2: the metaphor.

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Speaker 3: I need to get these pills to work.

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Speaker 4: But okay, all right, I'll be back here with my

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Speaker 4: ag one Luke living life the right way.

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Speaker 2: Okay, thank you, fair enough BC, as you can indicate,

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Speaker 2: as he indicated, there was talking about Elliot to Porta

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Speaker 2: because UFC on ABC five is this weekend, and the

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Speaker 2: card itself, like most UFC cards is these days, are

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Speaker 2: not great, but it's pretty good ish and I will

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Speaker 2: say this, the main event to me is extremely intriguing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, we got a triple header of fights, of course,

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Speaker 4: setting the stage for the main event that evening on Showtime,

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Speaker 3: Luke.

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Speaker 4: Look, if they did some type of MMA tournament involving

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Speaker 4: all of the chief podcast producers of all of the

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Speaker 4: biggest shows in the world, do you think Mikey comes

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Speaker 4: he could keep chin down on the mat from thick boy? Luke,

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Speaker 4: where do you think Mikey would stack up?

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Speaker 2: forgetting I don't think anything BC. So with that in mind,

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Speaker 2: you have it, all right, Let's start with UFC Jacksonville.

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Speaker 2: it is a one forty five pound tilt between Josh

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Speaker 2: Let's see, according to Caesar's Eliot, Taporia is a minus

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Speaker 4: Mostly yes. I mean, look, he's on a hell of

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Speaker 4: But look, there is no hotter hand, you know, in

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Speaker 3: I think.

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Speaker 2: But to me, b see the reason why I answered

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Speaker 2: it is how great can Taporia be is at twenty

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Speaker 3: This is gonna be.

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Speaker 4: Yeah yeah. Born in Germany, Luke, of Georgian in Spanish descent?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a great question again, be see, I think

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Speaker 2: about what he's looking for. Tapooria has at times in

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Speaker 3: Counterfought.

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Speaker 2: He can be counterstruck because he is trying to close

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Speaker 2: he gets good about that, he's got a good body job,

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Speaker 2: he's got good body attacks. We'll talk about that the second.

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Speaker 2: But that he often will leap into range, he'll stand

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Speaker 2: I think it's to me less about like hey, what

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Speaker 2: accept that on some level, they're all abviously be I

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Speaker 2: So bring that back hone the focus rather than like, hey,

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Speaker 2: And I do think, I want to be clear, do

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Speaker 2: everyone can see this. He has nuclear power. He has

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Speaker 2: nuclear power in that punch, and a guy like Taporia

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Speaker 2: we have seen it in multiple cases early on when

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Speaker 4: Yeah, no question about it. Do you want to see

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Speaker 4: I feel like we say this a lot when there's

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Speaker 4: There's got to be a little bit more nuance in there.

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Speaker 2: The answer is yes, but not just to wrestle. It's like,

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Speaker 2: then I would definitely say yes, but just to kind

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Speaker 2: he's a better submission grappler. I mean, dude, Remember, like

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Speaker 2: but Josh, excuse me. Bryce Mitchell got ragdalled by Iliot Taporia.

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Speaker 2: To Portia is like good on his back. He is

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Speaker 2: He does have good submissions. Like if you don't, if

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Speaker 2: you don't really need to tussle with that guy there,

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Speaker 2: why would you, especially when you got that big power

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Speaker 2: It's not to say that like Emmett couldn't do better,

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Speaker 3: Which way this could go? And like what the X

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Speaker 4: I just don't want to see Josh Emmett following him around,

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Speaker 4: landing a couple of big shots, but constantly seeking that

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Speaker 4: big one that isn't there, while taking a large amount

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Speaker 4: you know, cuts play a big role. I don't, I

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Speaker 4: don't see, I don't. I don't think Josh Emmont's gonna

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Speaker 4: He's got to the top on his own will and

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Speaker 4: this is potentially his last chance at true title contention,

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Speaker 4: he comes in ranked number five to Poria is the

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Speaker 4: riser here ranked number nine, trying to jump into the

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Speaker 3: I think that's fair.

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Speaker 2: The other thing that really consider here is we see

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Speaker 2: Ian Josh Emmitt will play a little bit more on

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Speaker 2: here is like if Taporia takes center and moves forward

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Speaker 2: more constantly, then Emmett's going to be on the back

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Speaker 2: foot kind of circling. At what point does he get

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Speaker 2: call this out now because I just feel like it

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Speaker 2: but it's so ever present and so tied to his identity.

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Speaker 2: We need to say it out loud. The body punching

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Speaker 3: It's more than that.

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Speaker 2: It's like this, you, It lines up uniquely well with

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Speaker 2: just not exactly what he's good at. He catches everything

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Speaker 2: do is use that to move his feet closer into

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00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:54,760
Speaker 2: position to throw a left hand to the body. Dude

436
00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:58,000
Speaker 2: to Poria does the exact same thing. He's one of

437
00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,439
Speaker 2: the best guys with left hooks to the liver. He

438
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:03,760
Speaker 2: has a tremendous ability to close the distance with it,

439
00:20:03,800 --> 00:20:05,920
Speaker 2: to go body head with it, to create all kinds

440
00:20:05,920 --> 00:20:09,280
Speaker 2: of combinations he can angle off of it. And more

441
00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:12,840
Speaker 2: importantly than that, he's got great uppercuts more generally against

442
00:20:12,880 --> 00:20:15,199
Speaker 2: guys who want to level change into him again, to

443
00:20:15,280 --> 00:20:18,480
Speaker 2: use that to stand switch, to use it to close distance. Uppercuts,

444
00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:20,240
Speaker 2: left hooks to the body I think are going to

445
00:20:20,280 --> 00:20:22,640
Speaker 2: be very relevant, especially against the opponent like Josh Eamon

446
00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,920
Speaker 2: who's gonna be like faking that level change at times. Anyway,

447
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:27,479
Speaker 2: I think to Poria is going to light him on

448
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,240
Speaker 2: fire with that particular one.

449
00:20:29,280 --> 00:20:31,480
Speaker 3: He's gonna get him to shell and then bang, he's

450
00:20:31,520 --> 00:20:33,399
Speaker 3: going to just drill him. I think that. I mean,

451
00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,000
Speaker 3: you know, listen, yeah, here's.

452
00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:37,800
Speaker 2: Leg kicks are probably going to be much more powerful

453
00:20:37,800 --> 00:20:40,720
Speaker 2: than the body punching to Poria. But to Poria, we

454
00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,679
Speaker 2: just know is strong enough with those against Damon Jackson

455
00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,080
Speaker 2: and other ones to just change the course of a

456
00:20:46,119 --> 00:20:48,639
Speaker 2: fight when one or two of those land. So that's

457
00:20:48,680 --> 00:20:50,520
Speaker 2: that's me. He's going to be a big thing to watch.

458
00:20:50,560 --> 00:20:51,679
Speaker 2: Body punching familiar.

459
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:55,159
Speaker 4: Look, He's finished every pro opponent except for one in

460
00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:59,399
Speaker 4: his UFC debut Meaning to Poria through thirteen fights. So

461
00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:03,000
Speaker 4: that shows you the impressiveness of the run and why

462
00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:07,160
Speaker 4: he's bigger. He's bigger of a favorite than I would

463
00:21:07,200 --> 00:21:09,760
Speaker 4: have expected come in, which we touched earlier on. But look,

464
00:21:09,800 --> 00:21:11,520
Speaker 4: I know you're going to toss to some shot sound

465
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:14,640
Speaker 4: from both fighters from our colleague and friend, Shaq Majori

466
00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:16,639
Speaker 4: of CBS Sports. But you know one thing he told

467
00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 4: Shack Meaning to Poria is that he truly believes a

468
00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 4: victory here. And you know who number five, Josh Emmett

469
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 4: coming right off of an interim title shot is is

470
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:27,879
Speaker 4: you know you couldn't get a bigger name right at

471
00:21:27,880 --> 00:21:30,560
Speaker 4: the moment, especially coming from Bryce Mitchell to this in

472
00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:33,600
Speaker 4: terms of succession. He thinks this gets him the next

473
00:21:33,680 --> 00:21:36,840
Speaker 4: title shot. You win here advance all the way to

474
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Speaker 4: the top. So that's interesting in a division which is

475
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Speaker 4: very crowded with big names in front of them.

476
00:21:42,200 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 2: Fair enough, So let's get to some of that sound.

477
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Speaker 2: As you indicated from Shaq Majori to Poria on his

478
00:21:47,560 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: confidence in comparing his game to emmmetz Le's.

479
00:21:50,080 --> 00:21:50,920
Speaker 3: Heear what he has to say.

480
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Speaker 7: I'm stronger than him everywhere the fight takes the place,

481
00:21:54,760 --> 00:21:59,959
Speaker 7: ever you were like even younger than him, hungry, are

482
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,280
Speaker 7: than him, faster than him, stronger than him, more powerful.

483
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 7: I don't know, I got everything.

484
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:11,480
Speaker 5: You're a very confident person, and I think that's very

485
00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 5: well deserved if you look at the perfect record. But

486
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:17,240
Speaker 5: where do you source your confidence from? What in your

487
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:19,080
Speaker 5: life or your career has given.

488
00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:23,399
Speaker 7: From the hard work? I work really really hard. I

489
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,760
Speaker 7: know what I'm doing in all my training camps. I

490
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:31,320
Speaker 7: work really really hard. You know my wors didn't come

491
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Speaker 7: from from the air. You know, it comes from a

492
00:22:34,600 --> 00:22:38,800
Speaker 7: lot of hard work I'm putting into every training camp.

493
00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:42,359
Speaker 7: The people think that I had just my training camp

494
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Speaker 7: for this fight. No, I'm getting ready for this fight

495
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Speaker 7: my whole life.

496
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I believe him.

497
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Speaker 4: I believe I got a couple I do too, by

498
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 4: the way, I do too. I got a few questions

499
00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:55,680
Speaker 4: from that interview shot we just looked at real quick. Look.

500
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Speaker 4: The only people who have showed up shirtless for interviews

501
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Speaker 4: I've done over Zoom have been people you might expect,

502
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,320
Speaker 4: like the Roley Romero's who did it that one time

503
00:23:05,359 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 4: to meet Luke oh Davison Figeredo, like guys you'd expect

504
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,719
Speaker 4: because he has such a pronounced and decent tatter ray

505
00:23:13,119 --> 00:23:15,719
Speaker 4: tattoo on Tati. Are you okay with Taporia pulling that

506
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:17,680
Speaker 4: move with shack or is that a little douchey, Luke?

507
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Speaker 2: In your eyes, I feel like it's I feel like

508
00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 2: if you're in as good as shape as he is,

509
00:23:21,840 --> 00:23:25,159
Speaker 2: and also you're like from Spain, I feel like you

510
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:26,320
Speaker 2: can just get away with it.

511
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 4: Yeah.

512
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,440
Speaker 3: I don't know if that's BS, but it does feel

513
00:23:28,440 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 3: that way.

514
00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:31,760
Speaker 4: Mikey reminded me that Adrian Broner once also did a

515
00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 4: shirtless interview in bed with me. They like doing that also, Luke,

516
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 4: did you see the split screen of the two? Do

517
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Speaker 4: you think if Shaq adds a beard, he could be

518
00:23:40,359 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 4: like Ilia's doppelganger. No, you didn't see that, Mikey. Could

519
00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 4: you Gus rang ch As you could throw up just

520
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 4: the two of their faces side by side again or

521
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Speaker 4: is that illegal under the terms of this streaming.

522
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Speaker 7: I'm stronger than him everywhere the fight takes the place, everywhere,

523
00:23:56,720 --> 00:24:01,199
Speaker 7: like even younger than him, hungry, are than him, faster

524
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:05,560
Speaker 7: than him, stronger than him, more powerful. I don't know,

525
00:24:05,640 --> 00:24:07,240
Speaker 7: I got everything.

526
00:24:08,240 --> 00:24:11,360
Speaker 3: You're very con they don't. They don't look that.

527
00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: I think I hit it right there, Luke, real quick.

528
00:24:15,600 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 3: Though.

529
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 4: Our good friend Shaq was out at that Did you

530
00:24:17,920 --> 00:24:19,920
Speaker 4: see there was a shooting at that music festival, Luke

531
00:24:20,000 --> 00:24:20,880
Speaker 4: in Washington State?

532
00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:23,960
Speaker 3: I think I vaguely heard something about it.

533
00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:24,160
Speaker 5: Yeah.

534
00:24:24,240 --> 00:24:26,200
Speaker 4: Yeah, Shaq was at that one. So so happy to

535
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 4: hear he survived. Just another unfortunate tragedy, Luke. Tough to

536
00:24:29,359 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 4: see there, but you know.

537
00:24:30,640 --> 00:24:32,960
Speaker 3: Another day in the United States of America, my friend,

538
00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:33,720
Speaker 3: that's what it.

539
00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,159
Speaker 4: Is there, Luke. Oh yeah, I believe everything to Porious

540
00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,480
Speaker 4: says Damn. Does he look like he fits the role

541
00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: as rising badass? I mean he fits the part. He's hired.

542
00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 3: Okay, he listen. He can do interviews in Spanish.

543
00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,080
Speaker 2: His Spanish, I would argue, is better than his English,

544
00:24:49,280 --> 00:24:50,719
Speaker 2: actually by a considerable margin.

545
00:24:51,720 --> 00:24:53,200
Speaker 3: His English, but though was still pretty good.

546
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:57,479
Speaker 2: And obviously he will speak with Georgian and you know,

547
00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,359
Speaker 2: as young as he is, and as the Van says

548
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:02,360
Speaker 2: he is, he's like the question was, how like, where

549
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,360
Speaker 2: does your source of confidence come from? I will tell you, dude,

550
00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 2: if you're that young and you're already that far ahead,

551
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:09,560
Speaker 2: it's because yes, there's no doubt in my mind. BC

552
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:15,040
Speaker 2: Tuporia works insanely hard, but also because he is so talented,

553
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:17,640
Speaker 2: the game comes to him a lot quicker.

554
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:20,160
Speaker 3: He is able to make huge amounts of.

555
00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:23,560
Speaker 2: Progress in a much narrower amount of time, and that

556
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:26,520
Speaker 2: to me is probably he can see it around him,

557
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 2: he can feel it when he's like, you know, locking

558
00:25:28,600 --> 00:25:30,720
Speaker 2: up with these guys. All right, one more piece here.

559
00:25:31,400 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 2: You know, Emmett not a big trash talker, loves to

560
00:25:33,800 --> 00:25:35,040
Speaker 2: let the game speak for himself.

561
00:25:35,040 --> 00:25:36,000
Speaker 3: Here's what he told check.

562
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 6: I feel like, if it's coming down to a talent,

563
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:43,679
Speaker 6: I feel like I have the finding capabilities. I feel like,

564
00:25:43,800 --> 00:25:45,520
Speaker 6: you know, I can do all the interviews, I can

565
00:25:45,520 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 6: do all the media stuff. Anyone actually knows me, you know,

566
00:25:50,280 --> 00:25:53,080
Speaker 6: would put me in that superstardom. But then again, like

567
00:25:53,119 --> 00:25:56,959
Speaker 6: you said, this is the entertainment business. I know, William

568
00:25:57,000 --> 00:26:01,040
Speaker 6: Endeavor just acquired WWE, and that's the That's like I

569
00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:04,440
Speaker 6: didn't go to school for acting. I didn't go to

570
00:26:04,440 --> 00:26:05,879
Speaker 6: school for acting. I'm not a character.

571
00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 3: I can fight.

572
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,560
Speaker 6: I played sports my entire live for wrestles since I

573
00:26:09,600 --> 00:26:11,639
Speaker 6: was a young child, all the way through college. I

574
00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:14,560
Speaker 6: can go go out there, compete and win and do

575
00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:15,520
Speaker 6: everything right.

576
00:26:15,640 --> 00:26:15,840
Speaker 3: You know what.

577
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:19,520
Speaker 6: I mean, so when it comes to these characters and stuff,

578
00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,919
Speaker 6: and and nothing wrong against that if it works for people,

579
00:26:23,960 --> 00:26:26,920
Speaker 6: great and or he's you know, he brought so many

580
00:26:26,960 --> 00:26:29,840
Speaker 6: eyes to this and there's only one Connor. But then

581
00:26:29,880 --> 00:26:31,959
Speaker 6: you see a lot of people trying to act like Connor.

582
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:35,400
Speaker 6: I'm like, that's just I don't know, that's my opinion.

583
00:26:35,440 --> 00:26:39,239
Speaker 6: It's just I can fight. So I got into this

584
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 6: business because I wanted to fight. I want to become

585
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,240
Speaker 6: world champion. I want to make some cash. Uh And

586
00:26:44,240 --> 00:26:45,960
Speaker 6: and that's that's what I'm doing.

587
00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:48,920
Speaker 3: That is what he is doing. BC.

588
00:26:49,960 --> 00:26:52,119
Speaker 4: He's about Luke, that's what you know. You could see that,

589
00:26:52,440 --> 00:26:54,040
Speaker 4: and I don't mean to insult, Like when we had

590
00:26:54,080 --> 00:26:55,680
Speaker 4: Ray Longo on the couch and I was like, man,

591
00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 4: you have the personality of a guy running a corner

592
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:01,520
Speaker 4: store in a neighborhood and just being like that friendly face.

593
00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:04,600
Speaker 4: If Emmett wasn't doing this for a living, Luke, he

594
00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 4: could be running I mean it to be doing anything.

595
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 4: But you just imagine him on a construction site or

596
00:27:09,640 --> 00:27:11,400
Speaker 4: somewhere like that, just you know, run on the show.

597
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:15,600
Speaker 4: I mean, he's just got that perfect, hard nosed everyman mentality.

598
00:27:15,600 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 4: But he don't fight like in every Man, Luke, how

599
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,720
Speaker 4: does he get over the humpier? How does he win

600
00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:23,040
Speaker 4: this fight? Because if he beats a rising, unbeaten Ilio Taporia,

601
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 4: you know he's still right there with the Arnold Allen,

602
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:28,840
Speaker 4: with the Ortegos, with the Holloways here in the top five.

603
00:27:29,480 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 2: I mean, you beat Illiot Taporia, Dude, you got my respect.

604
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 2: I think he is going to be a very tough

605
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,679
Speaker 2: guy to beat. But I'll say it again, here's how

606
00:27:35,720 --> 00:27:37,320
Speaker 2: I think he can beat him. I think he's got

607
00:27:37,359 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 2: to use his aggression against him. He's got to make

608
00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:43,840
Speaker 2: he's got to use motion feints, fakes and angle changes

609
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,919
Speaker 2: to create openings and then absolutely set a guy like

610
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,320
Speaker 2: Taporia on fire. Which again, Taporia is going to come forward.

611
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:54,359
Speaker 2: He is going to step hard. You have to know

612
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 2: that that is coming. Build a game plan to account

613
00:27:57,080 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: for that. However you want to account for it, build

614
00:27:58,640 --> 00:28:00,600
Speaker 2: a game plan to account for it, and he can

615
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 2: be hit. Now, the stats don't say that Taporia is

616
00:28:03,240 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 2: super hittable, but the way in which he exposes himself

617
00:28:06,320 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 2: to risk against a big puncher, potentially he doesn't need

618
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:11,880
Speaker 2: to get hit numerically. A bunch of times there are

619
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,320
Speaker 2: times in which he is wide open, so I think Emmett.

620
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:15,840
Speaker 3: Could get it done.

621
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:18,560
Speaker 2: I just feel like, here's what I think is gonna happen.

622
00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:18,880
Speaker 3: Be see.

623
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,200
Speaker 2: I think Emmett's gonna get to Pooria in trouble, maybe

624
00:28:21,200 --> 00:28:23,920
Speaker 2: even more than once, but then Taporia is gonna break

625
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:24,719
Speaker 2: him down the stretch.

626
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 3: I really feel like that's kind of the way it's

627
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:27,240
Speaker 3: gonna look like.

628
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 4: I can't wait to find out late afternoon to light here, Luke.

629
00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:34,680
Speaker 2: In by the way, uh, the prelim card I think

630
00:28:34,760 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: starts around noon. Main card on ABC at three pm

631
00:28:39,800 --> 00:28:41,840
Speaker 2: in the East. Three pm in the East is one

632
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,120
Speaker 2: that's gonna kick off, So an early start for your

633
00:28:44,160 --> 00:28:46,360
Speaker 2: Saturday MMABC co main event.

634
00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 3: This has got to be He's.

635
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: Gonna hit you real quick, though, Luke. With just this

636
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:53,560
Speaker 4: the top of this division, that Okay Volkanovski year July eighth. Obviously,

637
00:28:53,600 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 4: Holloway's got to stay busy coming up against TKZ. I've

638
00:28:57,240 --> 00:29:02,840
Speaker 4: heard rumors potentially of Brian Ortega against Giga Chikazi. Do

639
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,080
Speaker 4: you have a are you sort of playing out this

640
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:07,360
Speaker 4: bracket in the future to see how things look if

641
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:10,160
Speaker 4: Toporia follows the odds and gets a win here.

642
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:10,760
Speaker 3: Yeah.

643
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,479
Speaker 2: Again, like anything else, when you've got this many fights,

644
00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 2: you need to see exactly how they look before you

645
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:19,120
Speaker 2: can make a big declaration about who's next and what

646
00:29:19,160 --> 00:29:21,920
Speaker 2: the order is. There's a lot of ways that these

647
00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:25,360
Speaker 2: can go that would slightly change one position here or there.

648
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 2: So I think with Suporia winning this, he's probably got

649
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:32,240
Speaker 2: one more after that, although not necessarily. It really depends

650
00:29:32,280 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 2: again on what happens with Max, what happens with Ortega.

651
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:38,440
Speaker 2: A few ways this could go. But you're right, there

652
00:29:38,520 --> 00:29:42,480
Speaker 2: is a bit of a kind of a informal tournament

653
00:29:42,720 --> 00:29:45,680
Speaker 2: in a way, almost kind of happening right underneath our feet.

654
00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 2: All right, p See, this is the one that I

655
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:50,640
Speaker 2: know is gonna have your pants around your ankles, Amanda,

656
00:29:50,680 --> 00:29:52,840
Speaker 2: Heboss taking on Mac Barber.

657
00:29:52,880 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 3: BC.

658
00:29:53,840 --> 00:29:55,640
Speaker 2: I don't even know what to say to ask you

659
00:29:55,680 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 2: this because I know it just makes you so horny,

660
00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,240
Speaker 2: I mean happy.

661
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:04,760
Speaker 4: This is just not fair nor appropriate. Luke, Okay, all.

662
00:30:04,720 --> 00:30:05,960
Speaker 3: Right, I just said happy.

663
00:30:06,040 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: I just misspoke, utterly misspoke before that, BC, in all seriousness,

664
00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,520
Speaker 2: one twenty five contenders fight. Tell me what hebas and

665
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 2: Barber are fighting for? What are the stakes of this contest?

666
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 4: Yeah? I think the stakes are who who's gonna eliminate

667
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:22,200
Speaker 4: the other and take that step forward and become a

668
00:30:22,280 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 4: legitimate title contender in this rising division. Here at one

669
00:30:25,920 --> 00:30:31,400
Speaker 4: twenty five that was so empty and bottom heavy below Chevchenko.

670
00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 4: Now Valentine is not even the champion Grosso on top.

671
00:30:34,520 --> 00:30:38,200
Speaker 4: We're trying to figure out who's next. Outside of Blanchefield, Farroh, Tylia,

672
00:30:38,280 --> 00:30:41,320
Speaker 4: Santo's coming back and all of that. It's who's in

673
00:30:41,360 --> 00:30:44,520
Speaker 4: that next level behind them that are coming on right here? Amanda,

674
00:30:44,560 --> 00:30:47,840
Speaker 4: heboss Luke, who we love you know personality wise in

675
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 4: the heartfelt motion of her father's tattoo on his forearm

676
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:55,440
Speaker 4: of spitfire Witmeyer. But Luke, she has juggled wins and

677
00:30:55,480 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 4: losses in the last four fights, jumping around each division.

678
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,760
Speaker 4: It feels like she from watching that one point twenty

679
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:05,000
Speaker 4: five she feels is her stronger, strongest weight class coming in.

680
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:07,520
Speaker 4: I'm not convinced right now that she's better at one

681
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:10,240
Speaker 4: twenty five than one fifteen, but this is a very

682
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:13,480
Speaker 4: interesting test against a arising Macy Barber who's four and oh.

683
00:31:13,520 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 4: Since that collection of defeats, I would say it's largely

684
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:22,000
Speaker 4: inconclusive still to suggest that Barber has put everything back together,

685
00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 4: and that is fully riding the full momentum coming into

686
00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:26,920
Speaker 4: this one. You know, there's been a couple of those

687
00:31:27,000 --> 00:31:29,000
Speaker 4: bouts where there's some good you like, some that you

688
00:31:29,040 --> 00:31:31,239
Speaker 4: don't like in her putting the game back together. But

689
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 4: the confidence is there, the aggression is there, and the

690
00:31:33,760 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 4: winner of this fight is certainly going to make a

691
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 4: leap into that larger territory. I look at the rankings

692
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 4: right now, Luke Shachenko back at number one. Maybe we'll

693
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:43,880
Speaker 4: see her in that rematch with Grosso, But as you

694
00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,240
Speaker 4: look down at Man, I've never had more fun looking

695
00:31:46,280 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 4: at the rankings in this division and imagining fights. Heboss

696
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 4: coming in at number nine, Macy Barber coming in at

697
00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 4: number eleven. You still have some of that old guard

698
00:31:55,600 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 4: with Lauren Murphy at seven, Kitlyn Chakagen at six, who

699
00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 4: is now apparently Luke Opper under her married name of

700
00:32:01,680 --> 00:32:05,280
Speaker 4: Sermonara on this UFC ranking list, unless that's a fighter

701
00:32:05,280 --> 00:32:07,840
Speaker 4: I've never heard of before, Andrage at five. We'll talk

702
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,080
Speaker 4: about her future coming up, but yeah, you're talking about

703
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,360
Speaker 4: the winner jumping into that top five. I think we

704
00:32:12,400 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 4: have to ask ourselves here, Luke, who is Hebos as

705
00:32:15,520 --> 00:32:17,840
Speaker 4: a fighter right now, when you look at her talents,

706
00:32:17,880 --> 00:32:21,320
Speaker 4: her abilities, it's like flashes of things we like. But

707
00:32:21,520 --> 00:32:23,880
Speaker 4: maybe there's some comparison here to some of the criticism

708
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 4: we give other fighters who are well rounded and good

709
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,080
Speaker 4: and can compete at the elite level, But do they

710
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:32,480
Speaker 4: have that hizzled out superpower that gives you the confidence

711
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 4: that they can advance at this level. I don't know

712
00:32:34,600 --> 00:32:36,959
Speaker 4: if I've seen that yet on Hebas, especially at one

713
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 4: twenty five.

714
00:32:38,120 --> 00:32:41,520
Speaker 2: I think Hebos has definitely had hiccups that you're pointing

715
00:32:41,520 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 2: out with good reason.

716
00:32:43,320 --> 00:32:44,360
Speaker 3: But I'm a little bit.

717
00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 2: Higher on her, so I think although I've kind of

718
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,600
Speaker 2: been all over the place at times, I've been high

719
00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:51,520
Speaker 2: and then she got beat up by Marinarodriguez and I

720
00:32:51,600 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 2: was like, that's bad, and then she got a little

721
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:55,840
Speaker 2: bit better. Has had, I think, again, a couple of

722
00:32:55,880 --> 00:32:57,760
Speaker 2: hiccups along the way. But here's where I'm at. If

723
00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: you just look at the Vivian Raujo fight to me,

724
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:05,400
Speaker 2: which by the way, he boss won that one unanimously

725
00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: and dropped a Raujo in the second round, for example,

726
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,120
Speaker 2: was able to like ride out the rest of the

727
00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:15,120
Speaker 2: round on top she's got a good ground game by

728
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:17,280
Speaker 2: black belt in Jiujitsia, believe black beltain Judo as well.

729
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:19,160
Speaker 3: So here's what I'm going to say.

730
00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 2: Be see if you look at that last fight, what

731
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:23,480
Speaker 2: I got from Hebos was we knew her ground skills

732
00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,280
Speaker 2: were pretty formidable, and certainly holding position, I'm good at

733
00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 2: you know, cross facing and you know, a half guard

734
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 2: top control. But on the feet she still got hit

735
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,920
Speaker 2: a little bit. But she was much better, much better

736
00:33:36,920 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: about identifying when to throw and what to throw, Like,

737
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 2: she clearly was much better with her timing, much better

738
00:33:45,520 --> 00:33:49,280
Speaker 2: with recognizing targets of opportunity, much better with recognizing just

739
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,880
Speaker 2: the kind of situations in which she wanted to let

740
00:33:51,880 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 2: her offense do the talking, and she did. If you

741
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:58,440
Speaker 2: go back and watch, she's very mindfully fines places to

742
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 2: land punches, which places to land them, what times. It's

743
00:34:02,160 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: actually really really good that she was doing that. It's

744
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:07,320
Speaker 2: just that defensively, she was still kind of there to

745
00:34:07,320 --> 00:34:08,640
Speaker 2: be hit a little bit at least in that first

746
00:34:08,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: round and maybe to an extent a little bit in

747
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,680
Speaker 2: the third.

748
00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 3: So the point I'm.

749
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,000
Speaker 2: Trying to make here is I'm actually seeing some of

750
00:34:17,040 --> 00:34:21,520
Speaker 2: the same problems continuing, which is she's hittable to a degree.

751
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,879
Speaker 2: On the other hand, BC, I have seen that there

752
00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:28,600
Speaker 2: is good enough sort of baseline work with her grappling,

753
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,120
Speaker 2: and that at least her offensive striking to me is

754
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,879
Speaker 2: getting much better, very noticeably now to that point, they

755
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,920
Speaker 2: are not very dissimilar in stats BC. For Amanda Hebos

756
00:34:38,960 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 2: and Barber in this order strikes landing permitut at four

757
00:34:41,200 --> 00:34:44,600
Speaker 2: point eight versus four point two seven strikes absorb permitted

758
00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:47,120
Speaker 2: for Hebos two point sixty five for Barber two point

759
00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:50,520
Speaker 2: sixty three. Like, statistically, they both don't get hit all

760
00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 2: that much. I think standing up you'll see someone like

761
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:56,320
Speaker 2: in other words, part of this is just sort of

762
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 2: ground striking and everything else built in. I'm just sort

763
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:00,280
Speaker 2: of saying on the feet, I would say many Hebos

764
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 2: is a little bit more hittable. But BC, I think

765
00:35:02,360 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 2: the big point for me is going back to that

766
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:08,160
Speaker 2: Barber fight with Lee. Lee was able to get on

767
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 2: top basically in all three rounds. I think Heboss is

768
00:35:10,680 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 2: able to stand with her on the feet, resist pressure

769
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,279
Speaker 2: along the fence, and if she gets on top, she's

770
00:35:15,320 --> 00:35:15,560
Speaker 2: going to.

771
00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 3: Be much more of a threat.

772
00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: There are a lot of reasons to think that Heboss

773
00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:21,200
Speaker 2: can really begin to build on some of the things

774
00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 2: she's been showing of late.

775
00:35:23,000 --> 00:35:24,960
Speaker 4: Well, both have a lot of questions. That four fight

776
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:28,279
Speaker 4: win streak from Barbera has featured two split decisions, all

777
00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:30,680
Speaker 4: four of went the distance. You know, clean wins over

778
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:33,879
Speaker 4: Montana de la Rossa and Jessica I. But the Lee fight,

779
00:35:33,960 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 4: the Maverick fight questionable. His and Lowe's there, but she's

780
00:35:38,239 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 4: still just twenty five. And one thing Macy barber has

781
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:44,600
Speaker 4: always had is the right mentality. She's going to outvolume you.

782
00:35:44,680 --> 00:35:48,279
Speaker 4: She's going to be aggressive even through some of those shortcomings.

783
00:35:48,680 --> 00:35:51,439
Speaker 4: If you're putting these two stocks against one another, which

784
00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,080
Speaker 4: is what this fight is doing, trying to figure out

785
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:55,080
Speaker 4: who's coming up and who's going down in this division.

786
00:35:55,520 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 4: I feel, at face value, I like the ceiling of

787
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 4: Barbara Better and I also kind of like in this

788
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:05,120
Speaker 4: contrasting matchup how her skill set might set up. But

789
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:07,720
Speaker 4: it's interesting what you just said about the perceived advantage

790
00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,800
Speaker 4: you believe that he Boss will have on the ground.

791
00:36:11,160 --> 00:36:13,239
Speaker 4: And then we go to the betting odds, and right

792
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 4: now Caesars has minus two hundred Heboss plus one seventy

793
00:36:17,760 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 4: Macy Barber, Luke, I feel like Barber has a brighter

794
00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,080
Speaker 4: ceiling and is a better fighter. She does have to

795
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,879
Speaker 4: figure out how to be more consistent, and I do

796
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:30,080
Speaker 4: think that, you know, a lot of the momentum, of course,

797
00:36:30,120 --> 00:36:32,960
Speaker 4: that she lost in that Roxane motifuriy upset and the

798
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:36,080
Speaker 4: injury and all that hasn't fully returned. She's not going

799
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:39,200
Speaker 4: to break John Jones' record as the youngest champion, But

800
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:43,320
Speaker 4: am I crazy to believe that he boss is closer

801
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:48,520
Speaker 4: closer to a finished product. Barbara does have a brighter ceiling.

802
00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 4: This would be that transitional fight to show that to

803
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 4: go to the next level in the rankings, I know

804
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:57,080
Speaker 4: we need to see certain things out of there that

805
00:36:57,080 --> 00:37:01,200
Speaker 4: we're only seeing flashes are not enough of. I can't

806
00:37:01,200 --> 00:37:04,279
Speaker 4: see her taking a step back here, Luke. Barber's got

807
00:37:04,320 --> 00:37:06,720
Speaker 4: that fighting spirit. She does have some of those core

808
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:10,399
Speaker 4: intangibles inside of her. Sometimes she can get it done

809
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,160
Speaker 4: just by straight aggression. I kind of like her chances

810
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:13,959
Speaker 4: in this matchup those.

811
00:37:13,880 --> 00:37:16,600
Speaker 3: Style wise, I don't know.

812
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:18,840
Speaker 2: I mean, if you look at her first four fights

813
00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:22,200
Speaker 2: against Jamie Colin, Colleen Hannah Ssiphers, J J Aldrich, and

814
00:37:22,200 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 2: Gillian Robertson. She won all of those via stoppage ko

815
00:37:25,320 --> 00:37:28,400
Speaker 2: slash TKO, and then since then she's had two losses

816
00:37:28,440 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: the ones as indicated Moniferry and Grosso, and then she's

817
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: had four wins in a row against Maverick, Montagne, de

818
00:37:33,600 --> 00:37:35,440
Speaker 2: la Rossa, Just Guy, and Andrea Lee, but those have

819
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:37,960
Speaker 2: all been either unanimous or split decisions. She hasn't had

820
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:40,279
Speaker 2: a finish since her fight with Robertson all the way

821
00:37:40,280 --> 00:37:43,080
Speaker 2: back in twenty nineteen, just before the series of two losses.

822
00:37:43,400 --> 00:37:45,239
Speaker 2: To me, she's kind of hit the reset button on

823
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:47,680
Speaker 2: her offense and her growth, which probably was necessary.

824
00:37:47,719 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 3: She had a lot of.

825
00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:52,359
Speaker 2: Offense, but just again, this is the standard way it goes.

826
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 2: People develop offense much earlier than they develop defense, and

827
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:57,320
Speaker 2: that's true in a lot of different ways. And I

828
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: think that's what you've seen from Macy Barber now that

829
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,640
Speaker 2: I think she's trying to take defensive sensibility into the equation.

830
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 2: It has somewhat neutralized her own game, although made her

831
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:08,040
Speaker 2: a little bit harder to hit, a little bit harder.

832
00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:09,840
Speaker 3: To do things too in any kind of sustained attack.

833
00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:14,160
Speaker 2: Also, she's fighting better competition, so there are ways to

834
00:38:14,200 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 2: look at this and be like, dude, what is mac

835
00:38:15,680 --> 00:38:18,840
Speaker 2: Barbara really good at? Controlling along the fence line, slowing

836
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:21,399
Speaker 2: the fight down to her pace, tying you up under

837
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,239
Speaker 2: her circumstances. She's very good about just putting the fight

838
00:38:24,320 --> 00:38:27,440
Speaker 2: on her terms, and I recognize that it's just for me.

839
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:29,720
Speaker 2: It's like he Boss a little bit better at range,

840
00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,640
Speaker 2: probably about about his active but in the clinch she

841
00:38:34,719 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: has good offense there. I remember she's a judo, was

842
00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:40,920
Speaker 2: a member of the judo Brazilian national team. On top,

843
00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:44,000
Speaker 2: sort of much better about throwing ground and pound, typically speaking,

844
00:38:44,040 --> 00:38:46,759
Speaker 2: I would say against these kinds of opponents, better about

845
00:38:46,840 --> 00:38:48,759
Speaker 2: trips and throws a little bit better, a little just

846
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:50,960
Speaker 2: it seems like some of the things that Barbara has

847
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,879
Speaker 2: shown some promise in to your point, he Boss has

848
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:56,520
Speaker 2: at least at times shown a little bit higher of

849
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:00,600
Speaker 2: a ceiling. The question is can she put all of

850
00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 2: that together. Barber's game is cleaner, I would. I'll agree

851
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,920
Speaker 2: with you that Barber's game is much more defensively sound,

852
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:10,560
Speaker 2: again especially on the feet, but her game is just

853
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,360
Speaker 2: the last four fights. Again, you could argue she shouldn't

854
00:39:13,360 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 2: have won the Maverick fight or the Leaf fight, just

855
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,120
Speaker 2: not all that punishing. And I feel like he Boss

856
00:39:19,360 --> 00:39:22,480
Speaker 2: has more volume on her side, stats kind of somewhat

857
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:23,400
Speaker 2: not speaking to that.

858
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 4: So you think Barber has watered herself down to some

859
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:29,640
Speaker 4: degree to try to bring in more elements of defense

860
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:34,000
Speaker 4: and technique, almost like Johnny Walker's progression through as you know,

861
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:36,600
Speaker 4: John Kavanaugh's gym, where it's like trying to figure out

862
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 4: that right balance and sometimes it can be over, sometimes

863
00:39:39,880 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 4: it can be under. But Luke, I mean, do you

864
00:39:42,080 --> 00:39:44,200
Speaker 4: think she got dominated in that loss to Lexa Grass?

865
00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,759
Speaker 4: So I thought Barber showed some life there. I don't know.

866
00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:49,600
Speaker 4: I just feel like this Heboss matchup is destined to

867
00:39:49,760 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 4: go the distance and be a split or majority decision.

868
00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 4: And if you're gonna lean on something in a fight

869
00:39:55,040 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 4: like this and may come down to Barber's aggression on

870
00:39:57,080 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 4: the feet, that doesn't take into account if Hebos can

871
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 4: control her on the ground, for sure, and Andrea Leegia

872
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:05,120
Speaker 4: showed us that, but I wonder if Barbara can. You know,

873
00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:07,600
Speaker 4: sometimes at the second these second tier female fights loop.

874
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 4: Sometimes one thing aggression, you know, can can be the

875
00:40:11,480 --> 00:40:13,600
Speaker 4: difference in close fights that get you over the hump

876
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,520
Speaker 4: either way. Both of these two. I don't think they

877
00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 4: can have what I just described as two running into

878
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:21,200
Speaker 4: each other have a close fight kind of be a

879
00:40:21,239 --> 00:40:23,560
Speaker 4: toss up as to who won. If somebody's coming out

880
00:40:23,560 --> 00:40:25,840
Speaker 4: of this and is gonna make some noise in the

881
00:40:26,000 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 4: in the suddenly deep division here, they're gonna have to

882
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 4: do something big. They're gonna have to do something clear

883
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,640
Speaker 4: and convincing. I don't know if we're gonna get that

884
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:35,640
Speaker 4: out of this matchup right here, though they seem very

885
00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,840
Speaker 4: very evenly matched. Both hungry, but very evenly matched in

886
00:40:38,840 --> 00:40:39,480
Speaker 4: a lot of ways.

887
00:40:39,840 --> 00:40:42,759
Speaker 2: You know, Normally, in situations like this, I pick more

888
00:40:43,400 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: towards the Barber like fighter, which is to say, like

889
00:40:47,960 --> 00:40:50,840
Speaker 2: someone who's a much more careful manager of a round

890
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: and therefore a careful manager of a fight, and that

891
00:40:54,080 --> 00:40:56,680
Speaker 2: they are defensively sound. They're usually the person want to

892
00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:58,360
Speaker 2: fight as close I'm like, right, because they're just not

893
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:00,680
Speaker 2: gonna put themselves in as much true, and for that

894
00:41:00,719 --> 00:41:03,839
Speaker 2: reason I typically side with them. But in the case

895
00:41:03,880 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 2: of Barber, here's the problem. I don't really doubt her defense.

896
00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:12,000
Speaker 2: Bce what I doubt is whether I guess my concerns anyway.

897
00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:13,880
Speaker 2: Doubting is kind of the wrong way to put it.

898
00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:16,160
Speaker 2: But the concerns I have are not so much on

899
00:41:16,200 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 2: the defensive side about whether she is she will cover

900
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 2: up and you know, circle out the right way and

901
00:41:21,200 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 2: not not you know, avoid bad situation. She tends to

902
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,960
Speaker 2: be pretty good about that and staying very far apart.

903
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: The question is like where is where is the offense

904
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:31,640
Speaker 2: going to come from? I don't have any questions about

905
00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 2: hebas trying to find offense.

906
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:35,200
Speaker 3: That's the difference for me.

907
00:41:35,239 --> 00:41:39,880
Speaker 2: It's like the if her if Barbara's offense was more potent,

908
00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: a little bit more potent, I'd be I'd be less concerned.

909
00:41:43,560 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 2: It's it's that the defense is sound, but the offense

910
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:52,239
Speaker 2: is very unreliably you know present.

911
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,440
Speaker 4: Mister Faber and company are going to have to you know,

912
00:41:55,960 --> 00:41:57,480
Speaker 4: really work on getting her over the hump.

913
00:41:57,560 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 3: Lup.

914
00:41:57,880 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 4: We'll find out. I Hey, good good matchup. Good matchup. Though.

915
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:02,760
Speaker 2: You see there's a couple of the other interesting fights

916
00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:04,720
Speaker 2: on this card. The opener from the main car Brendan

917
00:42:04,760 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 2: Allen taking on Bruno Silva. Kind of a fun middleweight

918
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 2: fight there both guys surging, Neil Magnie taking on Phil Rowe.

919
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:11,960
Speaker 3: I like that tabacatation By the way.

920
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 4: Can I ask you a key question here, Luke M

921
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,839
Speaker 4: I would love to. There's this middleweight matchup with Cody

922
00:42:17,880 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 4: Brundridge taking on said Drake's dumas you know, it's not

923
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:25,160
Speaker 4: jumping off the screen as hey, Luke talk about this fight.

924
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 4: But Cody Bundridge has been finished twice in the last

925
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 4: six months, including just two months ago. This a little

926
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:35,759
Speaker 4: bit too quick to be turned around.

927
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,799
Speaker 2: I don't know what the situation is with regard to

928
00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 2: his medical suspension. You're right, he fought in let's see

929
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:45,239
Speaker 2: Jenualy for April God later.

930
00:42:45,320 --> 00:42:47,520
Speaker 4: That was a war with Rodolfo Vieira. That was an

931
00:42:47,560 --> 00:42:52,120
Speaker 4: absolute war if I'm remembering correctly. But I do have

932
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:53,680
Speaker 4: you know, well.

933
00:42:53,560 --> 00:42:55,560
Speaker 2: I don't mind that he took the fight with Vienna

934
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 2: after the Olik Shishak fight. I think they were far

935
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 2: enough apart, probably, But now two months not even two

936
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 2: months after that. Yeah, yeah, you might be right. You

937
00:43:05,960 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 2: might be right, they may not be great. I don't

938
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,279
Speaker 2: really know what the answer is other than he is.

939
00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:11,839
Speaker 4: An exciting fighter, though he's starting to come out of that. Look.

940
00:43:11,920 --> 00:43:14,080
Speaker 4: I wouldn't normally go out of my way to circle

941
00:43:14,160 --> 00:43:15,959
Speaker 4: another fight that you probably don't want to talk about.

942
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,040
Speaker 4: Which is this featherweight till between David Onama who had

943
00:43:19,040 --> 00:43:22,600
Speaker 4: that absolute war with Nathan Train and Gabriel Santos. But look,

944
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:25,319
Speaker 4: there's a fellow named Dominic Sarno who is a friend

945
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 4: of the show and just jumps in my DMS a

946
00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: reckless abandoned telling me Gabriel Santos is the real I

947
00:43:33,640 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: want you to answer that question, Luke. Is this just

948
00:43:36,520 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 4: some guy in my DMS making trouble or are you

949
00:43:41,160 --> 00:43:42,640
Speaker 4: a believer that there's something there?

950
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:48,399
Speaker 2: Well, he's out of that Evolucao Tai MMA team who

951
00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:53,360
Speaker 2: have had a lot of different good fighters. His lone

952
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:56,240
Speaker 2: fight is the lost to Larone Murphy, which doesn't stand

953
00:43:56,280 --> 00:43:58,000
Speaker 2: out at the top of my head. So I'd have

954
00:43:58,040 --> 00:44:00,040
Speaker 2: to go and take a look at the table a

955
00:44:00,040 --> 00:44:00,960
Speaker 2: little bit more closely.

956
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 4: Well, hey, Connecticut's own Wellington Turman out of Team Glover

957
00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,799
Speaker 4: to share a back against Randy Brown at Weltroy. That

958
00:44:07,800 --> 00:44:09,040
Speaker 4: should be a fun fight, you know.

959
00:44:09,000 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: That, Yes, and then Neil Magnet take it on Philip

960
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:13,399
Speaker 2: Row could be a bit of a fun one. Philip

961
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 2: Row will fight anyone anywhere. Neil Magni similar kind of guy.

962
00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,239
Speaker 2: I think we all know that, and then shout out

963
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,920
Speaker 2: to Tabitha Ricci, who told Alex Bhunan, I think it's

964
00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 2: how you pronounce his name. I can never really be Hunon.

965
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:26,360
Speaker 2: I've never really I can't remember. But who does the

966
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: humanizing athletes? Bit b see you've seen that on Twitter? Yeah,

967
00:44:29,000 --> 00:44:30,840
Speaker 2: and she said her favorite band was Pantera.

968
00:44:31,200 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 3: Good choice.

969
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:35,720
Speaker 4: Wow, shocking from baby Shark right there taking on Jillian

970
00:44:35,800 --> 00:44:38,839
Speaker 4: robertson Luke, Tabitha Ricci one of my favorite fighters, Luke

971
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 4: up and coming.

972
00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:42,400
Speaker 2: And then last but not least, Tetsuro Tyra, who's the

973
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 2: sort of an undefeated Japanese prospect at flyweight.

974
00:44:45,760 --> 00:44:47,280
Speaker 3: He is on this card as well.

975
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 4: Look, comment about the state of matchmaking at the moment

976
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:52,279
Speaker 4: or have we done that enough? I mean, I mean.

977
00:44:52,160 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: We've done it enough.

978
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:54,480
Speaker 2: But I got to tell you, dude, like interest, I

979
00:44:54,520 --> 00:44:57,160
Speaker 2: mean it's not my imagination, dude, like you can anyone

980
00:44:57,160 --> 00:45:00,600
Speaker 2: who has looked at their numbers and not just it's like,

981
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:03,759
Speaker 2: you know, again in different ways across the board, Like

982
00:45:03,840 --> 00:45:05,719
Speaker 2: the level of interest in what the UFC is doing

983
00:45:05,800 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 2: right now is down, Like it's down.

984
00:45:09,040 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 4: Do you feel still feel like it's boldly unexplained why

985
00:45:12,680 --> 00:45:15,479
Speaker 4: they could be having the best financial year of all

986
00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,000
Speaker 4: time and going through this unexplainable four or five month

987
00:45:19,080 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 4: stretch of just like second rate offerings. Is it?

988
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:25,160
Speaker 2: Because I never understand why people think those are separate things.

989
00:45:25,200 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 3: They are.

990
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,200
Speaker 2: They are like one is clearly the result of the

991
00:45:28,200 --> 00:45:31,120
Speaker 2: other one. Like again, the way the UFC builds cards

992
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:33,960
Speaker 2: is they don't build like, hey, let's white glove each

993
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: car to make sure each one like ASW Right guess

994
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: w obviously in a very different situation, they're just trying

995
00:45:39,080 --> 00:45:41,760
Speaker 2: to appeal to the Polish market and some other places.

996
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:43,239
Speaker 2: But that's really what they're trying to do is each

997
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,000
Speaker 2: event is an event that they're They're the exact opposite

998
00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,480
Speaker 2: of the UFC in that regard. So UFC doesn't do that.

999
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:50,560
Speaker 2: They what they try to do is, hey, we have

1000
00:45:50,600 --> 00:45:52,520
Speaker 2: a calendar to fill. We have to make sure the

1001
00:45:52,520 --> 00:45:55,400
Speaker 2: trains leave the station on time, whether or not the

1002
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:58,240
Speaker 2: trains have been properly cleaned, whether or not there's people

1003
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,520
Speaker 2: who have their tickets for that train. We just got

1004
00:46:00,560 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 2: to get them out the door. That's really everything that

1005
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:04,879
Speaker 2: we have to do. And so as a consequence, when

1006
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:10,239
Speaker 2: your whole modus operandi is trains leaving the station on time.

1007
00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 2: Are you really going to put that much effort into

1008
00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: each card or you're just going to do let's do

1009
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,000
Speaker 2: what we need to do to get to the next card,

1010
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: which is kind of what they've been doing.

1011
00:46:20,440 --> 00:46:23,840
Speaker 4: It wasn't like this throughout the totality of the ESPN

1012
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:26,879
Speaker 4: deal up to now. Even with the ESPN deal making

1013
00:46:26,960 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 4: the taking the onus off of loading up pay per

1014
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,319
Speaker 4: views because of the pre established five hundred thousand or

1015
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,000
Speaker 4: so per card that they get as part of the agreement.

1016
00:46:35,440 --> 00:46:38,000
Speaker 4: But man, I really would like if somebody could raise

1017
00:46:38,000 --> 00:46:39,960
Speaker 4: their hand at a press conference and just be like, data,

1018
00:46:40,040 --> 00:46:42,359
Speaker 4: is there an explanation for this?

1019
00:46:42,480 --> 00:46:42,560
Speaker 1: What?

1020
00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:44,600
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, Luke, because it makes me

1021
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:48,440
Speaker 4: really go down the rabbit conspiracy hole of Endeavor buying

1022
00:46:48,560 --> 00:46:50,480
Speaker 4: WWE and we got to pay off all this debt

1023
00:46:50,560 --> 00:46:52,960
Speaker 4: and let's hope no one complains too much. But like,

1024
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:56,720
Speaker 4: I just feel like, you know, the numbers on shows

1025
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:00,359
Speaker 4: like ours that produce that you know, rely on big

1026
00:47:00,440 --> 00:47:03,319
Speaker 4: UFC fights to make content, it just feels like a lull.

1027
00:47:03,400 --> 00:47:05,839
Speaker 4: And you know, Connor's not coming back anytime soon. We're

1028
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,680
Speaker 4: not going to see John Jones versus and Ghanu. We

1029
00:47:07,719 --> 00:47:10,359
Speaker 4: know all the reasons why there's you know, a good

1030
00:47:10,360 --> 00:47:12,279
Speaker 4: fight here and there. Like, dude, I mean, we could

1031
00:47:12,320 --> 00:47:15,359
Speaker 4: talk about Volkanowski and y Year for hours of our

1032
00:47:15,400 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 4: excitement level. I love it. It's great that Card's got

1033
00:47:18,280 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: a couple big moments on it. Not enough though, everything

1034
00:47:21,719 --> 00:47:23,480
Speaker 4: right now is not enough. It's not Remember it used

1035
00:47:23,480 --> 00:47:26,280
Speaker 4: to be like every third or fourth fight night Card

1036
00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:30,080
Speaker 4: was like Jessica versus Calvio in the main event. You're like, Okay,

1037
00:47:30,120 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 4: let's give them them all again, right, you know they

1038
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 4: tried their best here, Dude. This is every week, Luke,

1039
00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 4: It's every freaking week.

1040
00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 2: It's honestly surprising to me. But like I'm just going

1041
00:47:39,000 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 2: to keep saying it. Man, the UFC has basically figured out,

1042
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,840
Speaker 2: not merely how to arrange a media rights schedule to

1043
00:47:44,880 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: get maximum revenue. That's part of it. But the other

1044
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:49,719
Speaker 2: part really goes to the heart of the fandom. And again,

1045
00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 2: I'm not telling people not to watch UFC. If you

1046
00:47:51,800 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 2: like watching it, watching it or if you want to

1047
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:56,319
Speaker 2: watch something else, whatever you want to do, vote with

1048
00:47:56,360 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 2: your attention dollars, right, that's what you need to be doing.

1049
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,880
Speaker 2: But the point I'm What I make here is the

1050
00:48:02,000 --> 00:48:08,920
Speaker 2: UFC has developed, to their credit, a majorly strong connection

1051
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,200
Speaker 2: to their fan base, and the fan base is willing

1052
00:48:12,320 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: to put up with a fair amount, like, in fact,

1053
00:48:15,440 --> 00:48:17,719
Speaker 2: much more than a fair amount, a significant amount of

1054
00:48:17,880 --> 00:48:21,040
Speaker 2: product downgrade. I mean, basically, what the fans have said

1055
00:48:21,120 --> 00:48:24,200
Speaker 2: is we are, at least right now, willing to accept

1056
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:28,239
Speaker 2: a significant downgrade and product in exchange for product frequency.

1057
00:48:29,040 --> 00:48:31,560
Speaker 2: And the UFC is like, Okay, well, we're happy to

1058
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,799
Speaker 2: make that trade with you, no problem, we can do that.

1059
00:48:34,080 --> 00:48:35,560
Speaker 2: And then's folks like us being like, I don't know,

1060
00:48:35,600 --> 00:48:36,840
Speaker 2: I don't know if I want to make the trade

1061
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,319
Speaker 2: this way. I think there might be a better way

1062
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:41,560
Speaker 2: to have this kind of exchange. But as long as

1063
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:44,799
Speaker 2: the UFC knows that the fans won't really revolt, as

1064
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,120
Speaker 2: long as it really doesn't affect the bottom line of

1065
00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,000
Speaker 2: pay per views too much, or live gates too much,

1066
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,560
Speaker 2: or their ability to collect on the media writes too much.

1067
00:48:52,600 --> 00:48:53,359
Speaker 3: And by the way, it.

1068
00:48:53,280 --> 00:48:57,000
Speaker 2: Doesn't what incentive do they have to change, Like, there's

1069
00:48:57,080 --> 00:49:00,600
Speaker 2: nothing forcing them to do anything different. So I think

1070
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,040
Speaker 2: if the fans don't like it, they got to look

1071
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:03,960
Speaker 2: themselves in the mirror. A little bit and ask what

1072
00:49:04,080 --> 00:49:06,080
Speaker 2: role are they playing in this dynamic.

1073
00:49:06,120 --> 00:49:08,759
Speaker 4: Well, look, we are fans as well as journalists and

1074
00:49:08,760 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 4: people who you know, as people always say when they

1075
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:14,719
Speaker 4: tell us to stop crying about UFC matters, this is

1076
00:49:14,760 --> 00:49:16,920
Speaker 4: how you pay your bills these fights. Yeah, well, that's

1077
00:49:16,960 --> 00:49:19,439
Speaker 4: why we have such a fine tooth comb to kind

1078
00:49:19,440 --> 00:49:21,560
Speaker 4: of pick these apart. We want these to be full,

1079
00:49:22,160 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 4: exciting cards. We don't want to fight night card where

1080
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 4: three of the twenty four fighters are ranked right and

1081
00:49:27,200 --> 00:49:29,120
Speaker 4: seventy five percent of the card fought on the Danahy

1082
00:49:29,160 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 4: Contender series within the last eighteen months. That's not what

1083
00:49:32,040 --> 00:49:34,759
Speaker 4: we're necessarily looking for. I would just want answers. I mean, look,

1084
00:49:34,760 --> 00:49:37,279
Speaker 4: if somebody told you, hey, the cards are going to

1085
00:49:37,320 --> 00:49:39,360
Speaker 4: be a little bit watered down for the next six months,

1086
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:41,520
Speaker 4: why because we're going to raise fight or pay from

1087
00:49:41,520 --> 00:49:43,719
Speaker 4: twelve percent of our revenue up to twenty five, You'd

1088
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 4: be like, okay, great, all right, I'll deal with this.

1089
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:47,440
Speaker 4: But it's obviously not that.

1090
00:49:47,760 --> 00:49:50,000
Speaker 3: It's obviously yeah.

1091
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:53,520
Speaker 2: I mean again, until someone makes the UFC do something different,

1092
00:49:53,560 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 2: whether it's Congress, whether it's the fans, whether it's a court,

1093
00:49:57,160 --> 00:49:59,720
Speaker 2: you name it. So they make them do something different,

1094
00:50:00,120 --> 00:50:03,120
Speaker 2: just gonna keep doing what they're doing. So I don't

1095
00:50:03,120 --> 00:50:05,879
Speaker 2: know what to tell folks. All right, bc uh, there's

1096
00:50:05,880 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: a bit of a weekend preview. I'm not really sure

1097
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:10,640
Speaker 2: what to say about any of these things. PFL six

1098
00:50:10,719 --> 00:50:13,480
Speaker 2: is here. I guess for folks, dude, what have been

1099
00:50:13,560 --> 00:50:16,360
Speaker 2: the what are the ratings been for this season? The PFL?

1100
00:50:16,440 --> 00:50:18,640
Speaker 2: Is anyone paying attention to it? I know the hardcore

1101
00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:20,279
Speaker 2: is on Twitter pay attention to but I'm asking like,

1102
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 2: is there any crossover audience? Obviously, Olivier Allbin Morecia from

1103
00:50:24,080 --> 00:50:27,360
Speaker 2: last season's champion, will be fighting Anthony Romeros out of Bussi,

1104
00:50:27,640 --> 00:50:29,840
Speaker 2: who won the Walter White titles, up against Shane Mitchell.

1105
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:30,680
Speaker 3: There are some other ones.

1106
00:50:30,840 --> 00:50:34,919
Speaker 2: Shane Burgos is back against Yamato Nishikawa, Maga man Maga

1107
00:50:34,960 --> 00:50:36,960
Speaker 2: mat Karamov obviously a bit of a staple, and the

1108
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,360
Speaker 2: PFL experience is back against David Zuwata. Kind of a

1109
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,239
Speaker 2: fun fight there, if I'm being honest. Maga Manu Malatov

1110
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,040
Speaker 2: is on this card. By the way, Clay Collared, the

1111
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:48,400
Speaker 2: combat sports crossover hero taking on Stevie Ray out of Scotland.

1112
00:50:48,400 --> 00:50:50,919
Speaker 2: That's a fun one that Ton Schultz against Houshman Fio,

1113
00:50:50,960 --> 00:50:52,680
Speaker 2: and there's some other ones on here as well.

1114
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:54,560
Speaker 3: BC anything.

1115
00:50:56,239 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 4: Well, look, the PFL is in a tough rut with

1116
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,520
Speaker 4: a lot of those names being you know, steroid it

1117
00:51:01,560 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 4: out or or just not getting them into the tournaments

1118
00:51:04,719 --> 00:51:06,600
Speaker 4: this year. As we've talked about at length, I do

1119
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:08,600
Speaker 4: like the matchups on this card. It's gonna be an

1120
00:51:08,600 --> 00:51:11,600
Speaker 4: interesting playoff push in this lightweight division. Of particular, Burgos

1121
00:51:11,840 --> 00:51:15,520
Speaker 4: had lost his first regular season fight against Oam Who's

1122
00:51:15,560 --> 00:51:17,640
Speaker 4: going to be defending his title here in the main event,

1123
00:51:17,640 --> 00:51:19,400
Speaker 4: well not directly defending his title, do you get what

1124
00:51:19,400 --> 00:51:21,960
Speaker 4: I mean? Champion last year. I'm always good to see

1125
00:51:21,960 --> 00:51:24,520
Speaker 4: Sada bus back. But yeah, Louke Clay Collard opened this

1126
00:51:24,560 --> 00:51:26,239
Speaker 4: tournament with a win. Let's see if he can push

1127
00:51:26,280 --> 00:51:31,000
Speaker 4: back toward the playoffs. But it's not I don't know,

1128
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:35,040
Speaker 4: it's not overwhelmingly screaming. You know, find out from the

1129
00:51:35,080 --> 00:51:36,760
Speaker 4: smart cage what time this thing starts?

1130
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:40,000
Speaker 3: Right, It's yeah, not really.

1131
00:51:41,360 --> 00:51:44,719
Speaker 2: It's a lightweight and welterweight tournament situation going on three

1132
00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:46,759
Speaker 2: lightweight bouts. When Walters we about the side, buc One

1133
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 2: is the welterweight bout. Yeah, I mean it's just a tournament.

1134
00:51:52,400 --> 00:51:54,920
Speaker 2: Like this is a problem with a tournament model is

1135
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:59,040
Speaker 2: really that unless the tournament itself is the storyline, then

1136
00:51:59,120 --> 00:52:02,480
Speaker 2: storylines can get erased from the process because like, what's

1137
00:52:02,640 --> 00:52:05,480
Speaker 2: drawing Romero and Aubin Marcia here other than like your

1138
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:06,560
Speaker 2: familiarity with them?

1139
00:52:06,640 --> 00:52:06,920
Speaker 3: Nothing?

1140
00:52:07,160 --> 00:52:09,160
Speaker 4: Yeah, Or to get another couple of points in the

1141
00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:11,279
Speaker 4: standings and try to make the playoffs look well.

1142
00:52:11,320 --> 00:52:13,200
Speaker 2: I will say Clay, I will say this, Clay Collin

1143
00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 2: versus Stevie Ray is guaranteed to be good.

1144
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:16,520
Speaker 3: I don't know how that will could be sure?

1145
00:52:17,000 --> 00:52:21,200
Speaker 4: Absolutely. Look, do you think that now that the PFL

1146
00:52:21,400 --> 00:52:25,600
Speaker 4: is so armed and ready for twenty twenty four, the

1147
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:28,839
Speaker 4: pay per view division kickoff, we've got Francis saying early

1148
00:52:28,920 --> 00:52:31,200
Speaker 4: twenty twenty four, I plan on making my PFL debut.

1149
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 4: We know Jake Paul's lingering. Do you see them eschewing

1150
00:52:35,600 --> 00:52:38,360
Speaker 4: this identity that got them here, which is the tournament

1151
00:52:38,600 --> 00:52:42,400
Speaker 4: Bellator did when they switched from the revenue era to

1152
00:52:42,440 --> 00:52:44,160
Speaker 4: the cocher era and kind of went in a new

1153
00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 4: direction with more fan friendly Let's get big cable ratings

1154
00:52:48,680 --> 00:52:51,359
Speaker 4: to be our calling card. Do you think PFL ever

1155
00:52:51,520 --> 00:52:54,440
Speaker 4: gets out over the tournament format or do you think

1156
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,120
Speaker 4: they should? What would twenty twenty four in the PFL.

1157
00:52:57,200 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 4: How different would the brand be next year, aside from

1158
00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 4: the DAC and Francis must see sort of parts of it.

1159
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,400
Speaker 4: If they kept the format or dropped it is their

1160
00:53:05,440 --> 00:53:06,960
Speaker 4: plus and minuses in having that.

1161
00:53:07,600 --> 00:53:11,000
Speaker 2: I think that again, this is exactly where we were

1162
00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 2: with twenty thirteen twenty fourteen pre Cocher Belatour at the

1163
00:53:14,360 --> 00:53:16,960
Speaker 2: very end the buor and revenue era, and the way

1164
00:53:16,960 --> 00:53:20,920
Speaker 2: that was heading was they had hardcore tournament logic and

1165
00:53:21,640 --> 00:53:23,400
Speaker 2: that's the only way they saw themselves. And then they

1166
00:53:23,440 --> 00:53:25,279
Speaker 2: realized that was not getting them where they wanted to go,

1167
00:53:25,400 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 2: which was on pay per view, and so they began

1168
00:53:28,280 --> 00:53:30,880
Speaker 2: to make an adjustment. And what they had was they

1169
00:53:30,920 --> 00:53:32,720
Speaker 2: may have had they had a similar name like Super

1170
00:53:32,760 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: Fight Division, which were guys who if you'd already been

1171
00:53:35,040 --> 00:53:36,839
Speaker 2: through a tournament or you'd already won one, you could

1172
00:53:36,840 --> 00:53:38,200
Speaker 2: be in this pool where you didn't have to go

1173
00:53:38,239 --> 00:53:40,279
Speaker 2: through a tournament to get into the pool. And so

1174
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: there was this tension between the tournament and then the

1175
00:53:43,080 --> 00:53:45,080
Speaker 2: matchmaker model. Here's what I think will happen. I don't

1176
00:53:45,080 --> 00:53:47,880
Speaker 2: think they'll ever fully abandon the tournament model, but I

1177
00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:49,800
Speaker 2: think they're going to scale it back to give themselves

1178
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:53,040
Speaker 2: the flexibility they need on the matchmaker side, where if

1179
00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:55,320
Speaker 2: they are able to sign some guys to fight Francis,

1180
00:53:55,640 --> 00:53:57,240
Speaker 2: they're not gonna want to run that through a tournament.

1181
00:53:57,239 --> 00:53:58,799
Speaker 2: They're just gonna want to make that happen. Or if

1182
00:53:58,800 --> 00:54:00,839
Speaker 2: they can get Nate dis to fight Jake Paul, they're

1183
00:54:00,840 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 2: gonna put an Ads through a fucking tournament. Of course,

1184
00:54:03,239 --> 00:54:04,920
Speaker 2: they'm not gonna. But what they might do is, hey,

1185
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,760
Speaker 2: this season, we're gonna run two tournaments, one and lightweight,

1186
00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:10,040
Speaker 2: one on walterweight, and then that's it, or something like that,

1187
00:54:10,239 --> 00:54:12,200
Speaker 2: or run one on the women's side and not on

1188
00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:15,520
Speaker 2: the men's something like that, to make it work where

1189
00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,640
Speaker 2: they don't utterly abandon everything, because they can't just tell

1190
00:54:18,680 --> 00:54:20,439
Speaker 2: you that, hey, everything we've been selling you this whole

1191
00:54:20,440 --> 00:54:22,879
Speaker 2: time has been nonsensical.

1192
00:54:22,960 --> 00:54:23,640
Speaker 3: They can't do that.

1193
00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,759
Speaker 2: So what they'll do is, people do like tournaments, and

1194
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:28,239
Speaker 2: they like part of what PFL does with them. Let's

1195
00:54:28,320 --> 00:54:31,160
Speaker 2: keep the little part that they like. Let's add some flexibility,

1196
00:54:31,600 --> 00:54:33,920
Speaker 2: some marriage between that. Well, is the way it will

1197
00:54:33,960 --> 00:54:34,400
Speaker 2: work because you.

1198
00:54:34,360 --> 00:54:36,560
Speaker 4: Could certainly bring up what Bellator is doing now to

1199
00:54:36,760 --> 00:54:40,520
Speaker 4: good success, which is the Grand Prix tournament offerings. Camera

1200
00:54:40,640 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 4: beck on me, this guy Luke Thomas stuff. Put the

1201
00:54:44,160 --> 00:54:46,239
Speaker 4: camera on me. Look what I'm on saying is, look

1202
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:50,040
Speaker 4: what Cooker is doing now isn't like insanely removed from

1203
00:54:50,080 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 4: what Redney previously did, but it's selective. They pick out

1204
00:54:55,000 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 4: the divisions when they know they have good depth. The

1205
00:54:57,360 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 4: title is also defended each step the way, which raises

1206
00:55:01,160 --> 00:55:05,800
Speaker 4: the stakes. I'm just saying if PFL had a deeper division,

1207
00:55:05,880 --> 00:55:08,399
Speaker 4: or maybe had more of those like x UFC names

1208
00:55:08,440 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 4: that force you to tune in, then maybe the tournament

1209
00:55:10,920 --> 00:55:14,520
Speaker 4: system works. But if defending champion OAM is fighting some

1210
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:16,759
Speaker 4: guy you may not know better, would that would you

1211
00:55:16,880 --> 00:55:19,560
Speaker 4: be more apt to tune in if the title was

1212
00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 4: actually at stake right now? Is really what I'm saying, Right,

1213
00:55:22,480 --> 00:55:26,400
Speaker 4: Is this regular season slash playoff format actually work or

1214
00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:29,160
Speaker 4: is the Grand Prix format just a better version of that?

1215
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:32,879
Speaker 4: I wonder when it comes to stretches, when you, let's say,

1216
00:55:32,960 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 4: don't have huge names to pull people in, is it

1217
00:55:36,040 --> 00:55:38,479
Speaker 4: better to just say, look, this is my champion. Tune

1218
00:55:38,520 --> 00:55:41,600
Speaker 4: in Friday night he's defending his title rather than Hey,

1219
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,920
Speaker 4: this smartk just telling me he needs one and a

1220
00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:46,520
Speaker 4: half points, which means he needs a submission by thirty

1221
00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:49,520
Speaker 4: four seconds or he doesn't make the playoffs. Sometimes that's cool, Luke,

1222
00:55:50,160 --> 00:55:52,040
Speaker 4: But if a tournament happens in the middle of the

1223
00:55:52,080 --> 00:55:55,359
Speaker 4: woods and nobody watches, Luke, did it really happen?

1224
00:55:55,960 --> 00:55:56,160
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1225
00:55:56,560 --> 00:55:59,880
Speaker 2: You can't gimmick your way to an audience, right, you can't. Oh,

1226
00:56:00,000 --> 00:56:02,120
Speaker 2: we have a tournament model, that's how we'll get an audience.

1227
00:56:02,120 --> 00:56:04,560
Speaker 2: It's not gonna work. You know, Hey, we're gonna have

1228
00:56:05,200 --> 00:56:08,320
Speaker 2: I don't know, all women. I mean, that's that's important

1229
00:56:08,320 --> 00:56:10,200
Speaker 2: to have, But that by itself is not gonna work.

1230
00:56:10,360 --> 00:56:13,560
Speaker 2: Like you can't just hey, we have a different format

1231
00:56:13,680 --> 00:56:14,960
Speaker 2: than the UFC. Isn't that better?

1232
00:56:15,080 --> 00:56:16,959
Speaker 3: Now, there are some differences when you change the sport.

1233
00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:19,200
Speaker 2: When you do like four ounce Mui thai in a cage,

1234
00:56:19,600 --> 00:56:21,680
Speaker 2: I do think that is a different kind of equation

1235
00:56:21,800 --> 00:56:24,480
Speaker 2: that can get people on board. But in general, for MMA,

1236
00:56:24,680 --> 00:56:28,120
Speaker 2: you can't just rule change or system change your way

1237
00:56:28,120 --> 00:56:29,600
Speaker 2: into an audience. You have to have the fighters that

1238
00:56:29,640 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 2: people care about. Is really the is the short answer.

1239
00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:33,959
Speaker 2: And if you don't have them, then it don't matter.

1240
00:56:34,160 --> 00:56:37,279
Speaker 2: It's kind of a situation. So here's where we are

1241
00:56:37,360 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 2: with that BC. There is also a fight night card

1242
00:56:40,719 --> 00:56:42,640
Speaker 2: for one one Fight Night twenty two which will be

1243
00:56:42,719 --> 00:56:46,640
Speaker 2: the Lompini Stadium in Bangkok, Thailand, the famous Lampini of course,

1244
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:49,799
Speaker 2: Low Lampini and Roger Dominan stadiums are the big stadium titles.

1245
00:56:49,560 --> 00:56:50,839
Speaker 3: You can get in muy Thai.

1246
00:56:51,360 --> 00:56:53,759
Speaker 2: There's a lot on this card BC that I don't

1247
00:56:53,800 --> 00:56:55,759
Speaker 2: have any capacity to speak about. I know there are

1248
00:56:55,840 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 2: some big names. Superlek is on this card, scient Chi

1249
00:56:58,800 --> 00:57:00,640
Speaker 2: is on this card. There is a much of other names.

1250
00:57:01,360 --> 00:57:03,359
Speaker 2: We would be speaking out of turn if we tried

1251
00:57:03,400 --> 00:57:06,240
Speaker 2: to tell folks about what those fights were about. However, however,

1252
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:09,799
Speaker 2: there is a big and important one the heavyweight championship

1253
00:57:09,880 --> 00:57:15,520
Speaker 2: in one argin Buller taking on Anatolely Mallekin BC. When

1254
00:57:15,640 --> 00:57:18,960
Speaker 2: Francis was signing with PFL, we were talking about, well,

1255
00:57:19,000 --> 00:57:20,919
Speaker 2: who could he fight out there in the free agent

1256
00:57:21,040 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 2: space and the one name that I said I would

1257
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: actually be really interested in seeing out there in the

1258
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,400
Speaker 2: free agent space, not that I thought it would happen,

1259
00:57:28,520 --> 00:57:30,280
Speaker 2: And of course it's not really on the table in

1260
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:32,920
Speaker 2: any kind of way, but it was anatolely Malakin, who

1261
00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:36,560
Speaker 2: folks you might not realize, is the interim heavyweight champion

1262
00:57:36,600 --> 00:57:40,560
Speaker 2: over in one as well as the existing light heavyweight

1263
00:57:40,640 --> 00:57:42,880
Speaker 2: champion after he beat the shit out of Vernier de

1264
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,320
Speaker 2: Ritter to get both of those. So this is the

1265
00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,200
Speaker 2: unification between the champion buller who had all kinds of

1266
00:57:49,360 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: disputes with one, but they got him back here to

1267
00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:55,600
Speaker 2: now unify against the interim champ BC. Am I exaggerating

1268
00:57:55,680 --> 00:57:58,680
Speaker 2: in any way when I say anatotlely Mallakin is arguably

1269
00:57:58,760 --> 00:58:01,960
Speaker 2: the most interesting prospect, certainly at heavyweight but maybe in

1270
00:58:02,040 --> 00:58:03,080
Speaker 2: all of MMA outside of it.

1271
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,400
Speaker 4: I mean, is it fair to say he's a top

1272
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:07,479
Speaker 4: four or five heavyweight in the world right now based

1273
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,320
Speaker 4: on what we've seen or is that? I mean he's

1274
00:58:10,360 --> 00:58:14,280
Speaker 4: twelve and zero all by finish, all by finish in

1275
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:18,200
Speaker 4: his career. He has crushing power and intention that our

1276
00:58:18,280 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 4: dr breakdown was just violent and absurd, And now look

1277
00:58:21,920 --> 00:58:24,120
Speaker 4: he faces a bueller coming in with the full title.

1278
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:27,040
Speaker 4: Who dude, hasn't fought in two years since he defeated

1279
00:58:27,120 --> 00:58:29,440
Speaker 4: Brandon Vera for that belt. There's been a bunch of

1280
00:58:29,520 --> 00:58:33,160
Speaker 4: setbacks that have kept him away. Dude, this could really be,

1281
00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,080
Speaker 4: first of all, a great exciting action fight, but this

1282
00:58:36,200 --> 00:58:39,320
Speaker 4: could be the crowning of Yeah, I guess you're right,

1283
00:58:39,440 --> 00:58:45,120
Speaker 4: maybe the most unheralded, underrated absolute force across global MMA

1284
00:58:45,200 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 4: at the moment. That painfully really not enough people are

1285
00:58:48,920 --> 00:58:51,680
Speaker 4: talking about Lucas are there from what we've seen, the

1286
00:58:51,760 --> 00:58:53,919
Speaker 4: close ups we've seen of Mallekin up to this point,

1287
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Speaker 4: and if you rewatch his last few fights, you can

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00:58:56,080 --> 00:58:58,959
Speaker 4: do it pretty quickly because he's a freaking dominant tank

1289
00:58:59,480 --> 00:59:01,400
Speaker 4: any whole to speak of in his.

1290
00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:10,040
Speaker 2: Game, Mallikan, Yeah so a little bit, maybe a little bit, Okay,

1291
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:11,919
Speaker 2: let me pull this up here. Yeah, so this will

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00:59:11,960 --> 00:59:15,520
Speaker 2: be one Friday Night's twenty two Buller versus Mallekan on

1293
00:59:15,680 --> 00:59:19,760
Speaker 2: the twenty third, which would be Friday Holes in his game. Sure,

1294
00:59:20,320 --> 00:59:22,040
Speaker 2: I mean he's a okay, so let me talk about

1295
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:23,720
Speaker 2: the strengths and then the weaknesses they're in. Here's what

1296
00:59:23,800 --> 00:59:26,600
Speaker 2: he's really good at. He has a smaller heavyweight. He's

1297
00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 2: got a bit of Fadors build. He's a little bit

1298
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,160
Speaker 2: more stout than that, but he's a smaller heavyweight, which

1299
00:59:31,200 --> 00:59:32,880
Speaker 2: is why going to light heavyweight was not a big

1300
00:59:32,920 --> 00:59:35,560
Speaker 2: deal in how he beat up near de Ridder. So

1301
00:59:35,600 --> 00:59:37,920
Speaker 2: he's got his BC indicated a monster punch. He can

1302
00:59:37,960 --> 00:59:42,280
Speaker 2: absolutely wrestle. He has a surprisingly good striking, he can

1303
00:59:42,360 --> 00:59:45,120
Speaker 2: set up shots. He is moving forward on guys, he's

1304
00:59:45,160 --> 00:59:47,160
Speaker 2: making them work in the clinch, he's backing them up

1305
00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,360
Speaker 2: like he is a fucking force in people's face.

1306
00:59:50,560 --> 00:59:52,760
Speaker 3: The question is does he a little bit over pressuring.

1307
00:59:52,800 --> 00:59:54,560
Speaker 2: I mean, there's no one really so far who's made

1308
00:59:54,600 --> 00:59:55,919
Speaker 2: him pay for it, but he can get a little

1309
00:59:55,960 --> 00:59:57,000
Speaker 2: reckless there at times.

1310
00:59:57,320 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 3: I don't know if he has a submission game.

1311
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:01,080
Speaker 2: And also there's a question like, even he's a smaller heavyweight,

1312
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:03,200
Speaker 2: what exactly does his work rate look like?

1313
01:00:03,520 --> 01:00:04,439
Speaker 3: These kinds of things.

1314
01:00:04,520 --> 01:00:07,480
Speaker 2: But in general, everything he's shown us thus far has

1315
01:00:07,520 --> 01:00:10,200
Speaker 2: made us go WHOA, Like the kind of thing where

1316
01:00:10,240 --> 01:00:13,240
Speaker 2: you're like, dude, what actually can this guy do? I

1317
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:15,080
Speaker 2: don't let me look up the odds here very quickly

1318
01:00:15,120 --> 01:00:17,480
Speaker 2: if I can be se so do they do.

1319
01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,000
Speaker 3: One odds for this fight? I don't know if they do.

1320
01:00:20,080 --> 01:00:21,440
Speaker 4: I don't know if we have them on where I

1321
01:00:21,560 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 4: normally be able to find him by quick search. But

1322
01:00:25,240 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 4: if there's any questions.

1323
01:00:27,040 --> 01:00:28,680
Speaker 3: I think he's gonna beat Buller bad.

1324
01:00:29,120 --> 01:00:31,800
Speaker 4: I think that's the thing you have, that feeling. One

1325
01:00:31,840 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 4: thing about Melkin. Though twelve fights all by stoppage, ten

1326
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:38,120
Speaker 4: have been in the first round, He's gone to the

1327
01:00:38,160 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 4: second round just twice, getting stoppage wins mid second round

1328
01:00:42,040 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 4: both times. What does he look like in the championship

1329
01:00:44,680 --> 01:00:46,480
Speaker 4: rounds of a five round title fight. That is just

1330
01:00:46,720 --> 01:00:49,640
Speaker 4: information we don't have. So look, we're asking a lot

1331
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,040
Speaker 4: of When I say Argin Bueller's name, am I supposed

1332
01:00:52,040 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 4: to say like Ferris Bueller.

1333
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,640
Speaker 3: Or it's Buller Buller?

1334
01:00:55,920 --> 01:00:58,280
Speaker 2: Okay, I mean, I'm sure that's a stupid ass gringo

1335
01:00:58,400 --> 01:00:59,200
Speaker 2: way of saying it too.

1336
01:00:59,360 --> 01:01:01,680
Speaker 4: But why did things not work out in the UFC

1337
01:01:01,800 --> 01:01:03,880
Speaker 4: where he went two and one and finished with a

1338
01:01:03,920 --> 01:01:04,720
Speaker 4: two fight win streak.

1339
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,400
Speaker 2: I think he just came to a different place in

1340
01:01:07,480 --> 01:01:09,240
Speaker 2: his career where they didn't want to resign him. He

1341
01:01:09,320 --> 01:01:11,640
Speaker 2: was a bit of a Canadian prospect for them, and

1342
01:01:11,720 --> 01:01:13,560
Speaker 2: then I think he was able to lean more into

1343
01:01:13,680 --> 01:01:17,720
Speaker 2: his sort of Indian roots for one, with obviously having

1344
01:01:17,760 --> 01:01:20,640
Speaker 2: a background there as well. He was just more valuable

1345
01:01:20,720 --> 01:01:22,240
Speaker 2: to one at the I think at that time in

1346
01:01:22,280 --> 01:01:24,320
Speaker 2: his career than he ever was to UFC. And the

1347
01:01:24,400 --> 01:01:26,600
Speaker 2: other problem was too that his UFC fights he was

1348
01:01:26,720 --> 01:01:29,600
Speaker 2: good at getting on top. He was obviously you know,

1349
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:31,960
Speaker 2: he's a very good wrestler. There wasn't a ton of

1350
01:01:32,080 --> 01:01:35,160
Speaker 2: offense in those UFC performances, and I think that maybe they.

1351
01:01:35,160 --> 01:01:36,160
Speaker 3: Were like, well, he's good.

1352
01:01:36,800 --> 01:01:38,400
Speaker 2: You know, he's not like he's a bad fighter by

1353
01:01:38,440 --> 01:01:40,720
Speaker 2: his stretching imagination, but we want god, you know how

1354
01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:42,920
Speaker 2: it is like they'll let guys who can go a

1355
01:01:42,960 --> 01:01:46,280
Speaker 2: little bit further, who aren't as exciting versus the alternative

1356
01:01:46,280 --> 01:01:46,640
Speaker 2: at times.

1357
01:01:46,680 --> 01:01:47,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, they made that call.

1358
01:01:47,720 --> 01:01:51,040
Speaker 4: Well, Urgin Luke, as we talked about here, this was

1359
01:01:51,040 --> 01:01:53,160
Speaker 4: supposed to happen last fall, he pulled out with an injury.

1360
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:56,680
Speaker 4: So we're looking at two years off going up against

1361
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 4: an absolute hammer who's gotta be favored to finish him.

1362
01:01:59,720 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 4: But with that wrestling ability Luke, and with the stats

1363
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:04,920
Speaker 4: I talked about about what we don't know about Mallikin.

1364
01:02:05,600 --> 01:02:10,040
Speaker 4: If you're bueler, bular buller, you gotta take this fight

1365
01:02:10,160 --> 01:02:13,560
Speaker 4: deep and you can't worry about being boring to do that.

1366
01:02:13,720 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 4: I mean, if you can take him down and just control,

1367
01:02:16,240 --> 01:02:18,360
Speaker 4: which is not gonna be an easy proposition. I mean,

1368
01:02:18,400 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 4: Malakin has crushing power, but that's gotta be the path here.

1369
01:02:22,080 --> 01:02:24,160
Speaker 4: That's got to be the most intelligent path to avoid

1370
01:02:24,240 --> 01:02:25,720
Speaker 4: a void and then turn it on.

1371
01:02:26,400 --> 01:02:29,360
Speaker 2: I absolutely believe if you're Argent Buller, what's one thing

1372
01:02:29,560 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: for sure you have on your side, it's gonna be

1373
01:02:32,800 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 2: I'm sure Malakin has strength, but size size is gonna

1374
01:02:37,160 --> 01:02:39,439
Speaker 2: be a big advantage for Buller. He's gonna be about

1375
01:02:39,440 --> 01:02:42,040
Speaker 2: two fifty or so. Malakin I think is close around

1376
01:02:42,080 --> 01:02:44,480
Speaker 2: two thirty. He's not a big heavyway. He's only six

1377
01:02:44,560 --> 01:02:46,680
Speaker 2: feet tall. That's not a big guy for heavyweight at all.

1378
01:02:47,160 --> 01:02:49,760
Speaker 2: And if I'm Buller, I'm gonna be tying up with him.

1379
01:02:49,840 --> 01:02:52,720
Speaker 2: I'm gonna be hanging on him. I'm gonna be pulling

1380
01:02:53,120 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 2: on his neck. I'm gonna be just making him carry

1381
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,880
Speaker 2: my weight as much as possible, because if Malikin can move,

1382
01:02:59,480 --> 01:03:02,920
Speaker 2: he can splowed into range. As we said, monster powered.

1383
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:05,200
Speaker 2: There's so much he can do with that. You got

1384
01:03:05,280 --> 01:03:07,560
Speaker 2: to take that away. If you're the bigger guy, wrapping

1385
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,360
Speaker 2: him up, getting on top again, pulling on him, I

1386
01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,000
Speaker 2: think that's gonna be key, and we'll see if he

1387
01:03:12,040 --> 01:03:13,480
Speaker 2: can do that. What the fight looks like by the

1388
01:03:13,520 --> 01:03:16,720
Speaker 2: third or fourth round. But if he can't, if he can't,

1389
01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:18,400
Speaker 2: this is Malakin's fight to lose.

1390
01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:21,720
Speaker 4: Friday Night, Right Prime Video, Amazon Prime Video. I'm looking

1391
01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:23,120
Speaker 4: forward to this. This is gonna be good, Luke.

1392
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1393
01:03:23,440 --> 01:03:27,280
Speaker 2: So this one, according to topology, starts at eight thirty

1394
01:03:27,320 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 2: am AM, so it'll be a morning edition.

1395
01:03:30,760 --> 01:03:33,280
Speaker 4: We might be able to recap that on the live

1396
01:03:33,360 --> 01:03:34,520
Speaker 4: on Morning Combat on Friday.

1397
01:03:34,560 --> 01:03:36,240
Speaker 3: We'll see possible, Yeah, possible.

1398
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,520
Speaker 4: I wanted to get your read on this breaking news

1399
01:03:38,560 --> 01:03:41,040
Speaker 4: from one championship that I've just been alerted about. Mime

1400
01:03:41,160 --> 01:03:43,640
Speaker 4: Fighting was the first to report, Luke. We know Angela Lee,

1401
01:03:43,760 --> 01:03:48,080
Speaker 4: the one Adam White world champion, is still mulling her

1402
01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:52,560
Speaker 4: future after the suicide death of her younger sister, So

1403
01:03:52,800 --> 01:03:57,680
Speaker 4: that one Adam Waight Interim Championship bout has been decided.

1404
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:00,800
Speaker 4: It's gonna go down Friday, September first, and it's my

1405
01:04:00,920 --> 01:04:04,680
Speaker 4: favorite one fighter, Stamp fair Tex, who lost to Angela

1406
01:04:04,760 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 4: Lee for the title in a hell of an action fight,

1407
01:04:07,200 --> 01:04:10,960
Speaker 4: is gonna take on Ham So he uh, that's gonna

1408
01:04:10,960 --> 01:04:15,200
Speaker 4: be eight pm on Prime Video Eastern Time, Friday September first.

1409
01:04:15,440 --> 01:04:16,680
Speaker 4: You down for this one, Luke?

1410
01:04:18,040 --> 01:04:21,120
Speaker 3: I guess I think Ham is a UFC VET. She's good.

1411
01:04:22,520 --> 01:04:26,479
Speaker 4: It's a good fight, okay with Stam Fairtex's must see

1412
01:04:26,560 --> 01:04:29,880
Speaker 4: fricking TV with the aggression, Luke in the in the theatrics.

1413
01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:32,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, she should probably win that one, assuming it stays

1414
01:04:32,800 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 3: on the feet, I.

1415
01:04:33,760 --> 01:04:36,560
Speaker 4: Mean maybe maybe then we we head toward a Unification rematch,

1416
01:04:36,600 --> 01:04:38,960
Speaker 4: obviously with full sensitivity to the Leaf family with with

1417
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:40,240
Speaker 4: everything they're going through, which.

1418
01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:43,120
Speaker 2: Is I like Stam fairtexs. I agree that there is

1419
01:04:43,280 --> 01:04:46,280
Speaker 2: fan enthusiasm behind her and that she is very good.

1420
01:04:47,200 --> 01:04:50,800
Speaker 3: But you know, there's a bit of a a lot

1421
01:04:50,840 --> 01:04:53,240
Speaker 3: of a lot of you horn dogs who like her can't.

1422
01:04:53,120 --> 01:04:54,919
Speaker 4: Yeah, I knew you were gonna do that. I knew

1423
01:04:54,920 --> 01:04:55,440
Speaker 4: you were gonna go.

1424
01:04:55,800 --> 01:04:57,760
Speaker 2: Just guys, have your pants around your ankles for you know.

1425
01:04:57,920 --> 01:04:59,560
Speaker 2: And that's I'm not I'm not even I'm not even

1426
01:04:59,600 --> 01:05:00,320
Speaker 2: judging you for that.

1427
01:05:00,440 --> 01:05:02,720
Speaker 3: I'm just saying that's not part of the equation.

1428
01:05:02,880 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 4: Look, she has a a a pro wrestling style to

1429
01:05:06,960 --> 01:05:09,920
Speaker 4: her to her charismatic delivery, and it's.

1430
01:05:09,840 --> 01:05:13,240
Speaker 2: Not I'm not in any way saying she's not charismatic.

1431
01:05:13,320 --> 01:05:18,160
Speaker 2: I'm also saying you guys, you know, you know it

1432
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:19,240
Speaker 2: makes your balls, itch, and.

1433
01:05:19,320 --> 01:05:24,360
Speaker 4: I'm unbelievable the constant disrespect and grossness that you're dropping

1434
01:05:24,400 --> 01:05:28,640
Speaker 4: on this program. Look as a fighter, she's absolutely savage,

1435
01:05:28,960 --> 01:05:34,439
Speaker 4: brings it, aggression, great skin, I mean, something special I'll

1436
01:05:34,440 --> 01:05:34,920
Speaker 4: look forward to.

1437
01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:38,480
Speaker 2: Valentina is all of those things too, But also that

1438
01:05:38,680 --> 01:05:40,280
Speaker 2: her male fan base are horny.

1439
01:05:40,440 --> 01:05:42,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that's just I just want you to know one.

1440
01:05:42,760 --> 01:05:45,680
Speaker 4: Thing about me, and always remember this. I do not

1441
01:05:45,800 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 4: subscribe to anyone's only fans, nor will I. Luke Okay, all.

1442
01:05:49,800 --> 01:05:51,200
Speaker 3: Right, Oh I don't believe that.

1443
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:53,600
Speaker 4: No, that is a full on, hands free That is

1444
01:05:53,640 --> 01:05:57,000
Speaker 4: a belief. That is a promise and a thing. Now though, look,

1445
01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:58,800
Speaker 4: if I was in my early twenties and a single

1446
01:05:58,880 --> 01:06:03,200
Speaker 4: guy where my morals were different, i'd probably yea yeah,

1447
01:06:03,200 --> 01:06:05,640
Speaker 4: I'd prob'd probably be subscribed to all of them. But

1448
01:06:05,760 --> 01:06:07,520
Speaker 4: that's just life. Luke, Okay, thank you.

1449
01:06:08,240 --> 01:06:10,600
Speaker 2: How many days would you have been late on rent

1450
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:12,600
Speaker 2: just so you could pay for your only fans?

1451
01:06:13,400 --> 01:06:15,000
Speaker 4: I mean, think about it. This is because you know,

1452
01:06:15,160 --> 01:06:17,720
Speaker 4: we used to watch like movies on cable and be

1453
01:06:17,800 --> 01:06:19,480
Speaker 4: like man, imagine on your cable box if there was

1454
01:06:19,520 --> 01:06:22,000
Speaker 4: a button you could press and it'd be like pause,

1455
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:23,880
Speaker 4: the scene. Do you want to see this woman topless

1456
01:06:24,000 --> 01:06:25,280
Speaker 4: press the button for five dollars?

1457
01:06:25,400 --> 01:06:25,480
Speaker 2: Right?

1458
01:06:25,520 --> 01:06:26,640
Speaker 4: You know what I mean? I would just be like,

1459
01:06:26,800 --> 01:06:28,680
Speaker 4: you know, we would all be just hitting the buttons, Luke.

1460
01:06:29,160 --> 01:06:32,000
Speaker 4: Mma is giving you that opportunity through only fans only.

1461
01:06:32,080 --> 01:06:35,160
Speaker 4: It's gross and exploitative and disgusting, Luke. So you know

1462
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:35,680
Speaker 4: there's differ.

1463
01:06:36,360 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 2: Mikey says, I know a kid who had an inheritance

1464
01:06:38,960 --> 01:06:42,000
Speaker 2: and he spent all sixty k on only fans, some

1465
01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:43,560
Speaker 2: loser I went to high school with.

1466
01:06:43,720 --> 01:06:46,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, it sounds about right. It sounds about about right.

1467
01:06:46,320 --> 01:06:48,040
Speaker 4: But you do have to admit because there is a

1468
01:06:48,120 --> 01:06:51,560
Speaker 4: part of your brain that's wired for disgust that comes

1469
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,160
Speaker 4: from your background, Luke, that if you were twenty one

1470
01:06:54,240 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 4: and an MMA fan and they offered you this type

1471
01:06:56,280 --> 01:06:59,000
Speaker 4: of access, I mean, it's ridiculous. It's ridiculous, Luke, It's

1472
01:06:59,040 --> 01:07:00,000
Speaker 4: absolutely ridiculous.

1473
01:07:00,320 --> 01:07:02,720
Speaker 3: You see when you say my background, what does that mean?

1474
01:07:03,960 --> 01:07:07,120
Speaker 4: A horny American, gross male who went through the Marines

1475
01:07:07,200 --> 01:07:09,520
Speaker 4: and was offered to run trains and just this is

1476
01:07:09,600 --> 01:07:11,160
Speaker 4: an absolute dirt ball.

1477
01:07:11,280 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1478
01:07:13,680 --> 01:07:15,480
Speaker 4: We grew up in the eighties and nineties, Luke, there

1479
01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,800
Speaker 4: was not pause for that stuff. You know what I'm saying.

1480
01:07:18,040 --> 01:07:18,760
Speaker 3: I keep telling people.

1481
01:07:18,800 --> 01:07:20,800
Speaker 2: Everyone's like, oh man, I you know, support the troops,

1482
01:07:20,840 --> 01:07:22,960
Speaker 2: and I'm like, I'm not telling you not to. But

1483
01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,200
Speaker 2: I never got offered to run a gang bang on

1484
01:07:25,280 --> 01:07:27,440
Speaker 2: someone until I joined the Marine Corps, and then they

1485
01:07:28,040 --> 01:07:29,320
Speaker 2: invitations were plentiful.

1486
01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:33,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, yeah everyone. Yeah, I'll stop this conversation right here. Okay,

1487
01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:34,400
Speaker 4: moving on, thank you?

1488
01:07:34,600 --> 01:07:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, BC, Last, but not least, let's talk

1489
01:07:36,680 --> 01:07:38,760
Speaker 2: about some fight announcements that came our way the last

1490
01:07:38,800 --> 01:07:40,560
Speaker 2: couple of days. Some of these before then, we didn't

1491
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:41,920
Speaker 2: get a chance to talk about them, so we can

1492
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:43,320
Speaker 2: get a little bit into that.

1493
01:07:43,520 --> 01:07:43,680
Speaker 3: Now.

1494
01:07:43,800 --> 01:07:46,480
Speaker 2: These are not necessarily in order, although I think they

1495
01:07:46,600 --> 01:07:49,040
Speaker 2: might be, but no, they're not in order, but these

1496
01:07:49,080 --> 01:07:50,960
Speaker 2: are the order I wanted to talk about them. So

1497
01:07:51,120 --> 01:07:53,000
Speaker 2: first things first, BC, I'll get you to get the

1498
01:07:53,040 --> 01:07:56,800
Speaker 2: first reaction. It looks like for Boston UFC two ninety

1499
01:07:56,880 --> 01:07:59,720
Speaker 2: two in August, Henrisa Hudo is going to take on

1500
01:07:59,840 --> 01:08:03,480
Speaker 2: more Arlyn Cheeto Vera, both fighters coming off of losses

1501
01:08:03,560 --> 01:08:06,720
Speaker 2: heading into this contest. BC, give me your level of

1502
01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:07,200
Speaker 2: interest in.

1503
01:08:07,240 --> 01:08:10,280
Speaker 4: This one look surface level, meaning I saw the announcement

1504
01:08:10,360 --> 01:08:12,600
Speaker 4: yesterday I popped. I went, oh my god, two guys

1505
01:08:12,640 --> 01:08:15,320
Speaker 4: I love. Yeah, let's match them up together. Huge future

1506
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:19,000
Speaker 4: you know, title indications here in terms of where the

1507
01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:21,320
Speaker 4: winner could go into that picture. Is it though, the

1508
01:08:21,400 --> 01:08:23,519
Speaker 4: right matchup? I mean, they're both coming off of defeats,

1509
01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:25,400
Speaker 4: so it does make sense. I got a lot of

1510
01:08:25,439 --> 01:08:27,240
Speaker 4: people in my DM saying, wow, why is this Shuto

1511
01:08:27,360 --> 01:08:31,160
Speaker 4: just fighting Sanhagen right now? Considering that Shudo you know,

1512
01:08:31,320 --> 01:08:33,200
Speaker 4: arguably had a claim to the title. He lost to

1513
01:08:33,280 --> 01:08:35,560
Speaker 4: be a close decision based on how you scored it

1514
01:08:35,920 --> 01:08:38,400
Speaker 4: either way, Luke, I like this matchup a lot. It's

1515
01:08:38,439 --> 01:08:41,120
Speaker 4: going to help clear up this clouded title picture to

1516
01:08:41,200 --> 01:08:43,800
Speaker 4: some degree. And this Boston card UFC two ninety two

1517
01:08:43,880 --> 01:08:46,600
Speaker 4: is starting to really come together, Like we just you know,

1518
01:08:46,680 --> 01:08:49,320
Speaker 4: we just had a match making conversation of when is

1519
01:08:49,360 --> 01:08:50,920
Speaker 4: there going to be those things on the horizon that

1520
01:08:50,960 --> 01:08:53,760
Speaker 4: you can't miss? In your opinion, is UFC two ninety

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01:08:53,760 --> 01:08:57,560
Speaker 4: two Boston, which has O'Malley on there for the championship?

1522
01:08:57,680 --> 01:09:01,080
Speaker 4: Has this fight? Is this firing you up? It is me?

1523
01:09:01,640 --> 01:09:02,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, I.

1524
01:09:04,479 --> 01:09:06,680
Speaker 2: Had tweeted that I liked this fight, and there's a

1525
01:09:06,680 --> 01:09:08,200
Speaker 2: bunch of people being like, oh, this fight should have

1526
01:09:08,240 --> 01:09:11,040
Speaker 2: gone in or you know, to your point, Cheeto should

1527
01:09:11,040 --> 01:09:11,920
Speaker 2: have fought this person.

1528
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:12,680
Speaker 3: It should be for.

1529
01:09:12,760 --> 01:09:16,439
Speaker 2: These stakes that they didn't see this as the most

1530
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:17,880
Speaker 2: logical fight that could be made.

1531
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:20,120
Speaker 3: I'm not even necessarily disagreeing with some of that. I'll

1532
01:09:20,160 --> 01:09:21,840
Speaker 3: just say this. I'm taking the fight for what it is.

1533
01:09:22,720 --> 01:09:25,040
Speaker 3: It's an excellent contest. Both guys need a win.

1534
01:09:25,120 --> 01:09:27,880
Speaker 2: In the worst way, either guy gets a I think

1535
01:09:27,960 --> 01:09:31,320
Speaker 2: a pretty validating win depending on which way it goes. Obviously,

1536
01:09:31,400 --> 01:09:33,800
Speaker 2: would be validating for Cheetah, would be validating for Henry,

1537
01:09:34,520 --> 01:09:36,560
Speaker 2: assuming that the judges do do their job correctly. But

1538
01:09:36,600 --> 01:09:38,320
Speaker 2: you know, you know what I'm saying. And more to

1539
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:39,920
Speaker 2: the point, I think it would be exciting. I think

1540
01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,479
Speaker 2: it's a chess match. I honestly it should be five

1541
01:09:42,560 --> 01:09:45,439
Speaker 2: rounds and not three. A three round fight for Chicito Vera,

1542
01:09:45,520 --> 01:09:47,599
Speaker 2: to me, is a very different situation than a five

1543
01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:50,479
Speaker 2: round fight for him, But nevertheless, you have a very

1544
01:09:50,560 --> 01:09:53,400
Speaker 2: different body type, very different kind of styles of fighting,

1545
01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:56,879
Speaker 2: very different ways of approaching real chess match in both directions.

1546
01:09:56,880 --> 01:09:58,679
Speaker 2: And by the way, if so Hudo loses this one,

1547
01:09:59,200 --> 01:10:01,639
Speaker 2: well then you got some real questions about what time

1548
01:10:01,720 --> 01:10:03,760
Speaker 2: he has left in the sport, and it would absolutely

1549
01:10:03,840 --> 01:10:06,200
Speaker 2: I mean, I think his chance of getting a Volkanovski

1550
01:10:06,240 --> 01:10:07,760
Speaker 2: fight is close to zero.

1551
01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 3: You lose to Chitto Vera and it's one.

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01:10:10,520 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 4: Yeah. I think he has to win back the bantamweight

1553
01:10:12,200 --> 01:10:14,400
Speaker 4: championship to open up that conversation. He would also need

1554
01:10:14,479 --> 01:10:16,800
Speaker 4: Volkanovsky to stay at featherweight and not move up, which

1555
01:10:16,840 --> 01:10:19,920
Speaker 4: we're not sure if a win over Yai Rodriguez would

1556
01:10:19,960 --> 01:10:23,559
Speaker 4: push Volkanovsky up to one fifty five quickly though, about Boston,

1557
01:10:24,040 --> 01:10:26,519
Speaker 4: this is August nineteenth, even though I don't love the

1558
01:10:26,720 --> 01:10:29,479
Speaker 4: choice of the co main event, which is Jungwailey fighting

1559
01:10:30,040 --> 01:10:35,240
Speaker 4: Amandola Mos rather than fighting Yan Shaunan and China or

1560
01:10:35,360 --> 01:10:38,519
Speaker 4: Rose or whoever you get those two? Bandam weeighte bouts

1561
01:10:38,520 --> 01:10:41,080
Speaker 4: with title as you know, what's the word I'm looking for? Title?

1562
01:10:41,160 --> 01:10:43,240
Speaker 3: What title aspirations?

1563
01:10:43,600 --> 01:10:43,640
Speaker 4: No?

1564
01:10:43,880 --> 01:10:44,240
Speaker 3: Title?

1565
01:10:44,400 --> 01:10:44,519
Speaker 7: Uh?

1566
01:10:45,280 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 3: Implications?

1567
01:10:46,360 --> 01:10:50,160
Speaker 4: Implications? Thank you, Luke Thomas. You not only get that right,

1568
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:53,280
Speaker 4: here's what else you get? Tell me if you like this.

1569
01:10:53,720 --> 01:10:58,360
Speaker 4: Jeff neil Ian Gary Hell, yeah right, yes, yes, Cody Garbrandt,

1570
01:10:58,400 --> 01:11:02,440
Speaker 4: Mario Battista, Chris why I've been back against bores?

1571
01:11:02,760 --> 01:11:03,160
Speaker 3: That's cool?

1572
01:11:03,720 --> 01:11:07,000
Speaker 4: Andrea Lee versus Natalia Silva. Dude, Natalia Silva's coming on.

1573
01:11:07,160 --> 01:11:08,400
Speaker 3: That's a good one.

1574
01:11:08,439 --> 01:11:13,240
Speaker 4: Good one. RoboCop against Dennis Toululian, Marina Moros against Karine Silva,

1575
01:11:13,400 --> 01:11:17,600
Speaker 4: and Petrosky against Mershark. Look not not you know, not

1576
01:11:17,960 --> 01:11:20,879
Speaker 4: stop traffic spectacular, but pretty damn.

1577
01:11:20,720 --> 01:11:22,519
Speaker 3: Good, good good, pretty damn good.

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01:11:22,680 --> 01:11:24,840
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah like that, and again I like that they

1579
01:11:24,960 --> 01:11:28,280
Speaker 2: have not again you would want to have bantamweights if

1580
01:11:28,320 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 2: you have a bantamweight main event for a couple of reasons.

1581
01:11:30,560 --> 01:11:31,960
Speaker 2: In the event that one of them falls out, you

1582
01:11:32,040 --> 01:11:34,120
Speaker 2: have an automatic replacement ready to go. I think that

1583
01:11:34,160 --> 01:11:36,519
Speaker 2: would be great. But also if none of them fall

1584
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,599
Speaker 2: out in the fights go forward. Now to your point, BC,

1585
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:40,960
Speaker 2: not just in that division, but on that night, you've

1586
01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,280
Speaker 2: got something of a mini tournament kind of happening there.

1587
01:11:43,880 --> 01:11:46,720
Speaker 2: A lot of different permutations can get quickly figured out

1588
01:11:46,920 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 2: about which way the division is going to go in

1589
01:11:48,479 --> 01:11:51,560
Speaker 2: the matchmaking. So I like this fight again. Is it

1590
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 2: the fight that that absolutely had to get made or

1591
01:11:54,240 --> 01:11:54,960
Speaker 2: was it the best one?

1592
01:11:55,200 --> 01:11:55,240
Speaker 5: No?

1593
01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:57,880
Speaker 3: Not necessarily, but for what it is, I like it

1594
01:11:57,960 --> 01:11:58,160
Speaker 3: a lot.

1595
01:11:58,280 --> 01:11:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm not wanting do you see us going to Boston

1596
01:12:00,400 --> 01:12:02,479
Speaker 4: like doing an MK live show and some Irish pub

1597
01:12:02,560 --> 01:12:04,439
Speaker 4: are like, let's not go too crazy for this card.

1598
01:12:04,600 --> 01:12:06,559
Speaker 3: So dude. I did a panel in twenty twelve.

1599
01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:09,719
Speaker 2: It was me, Jordan Breen, Jack and Carnassau and Domina

1600
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:13,040
Speaker 2: Cruz and we all did a panel at MIT for

1601
01:12:13,200 --> 01:12:17,200
Speaker 2: the Sports the Sloan Sports Statistics Conference, and I was

1602
01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:19,240
Speaker 2: one of the highlights of my career. That was fucking awesome.

1603
01:12:19,240 --> 01:12:20,680
Speaker 2: That's where I met Tony. That's where I met. In

1604
01:12:20,720 --> 01:12:24,120
Speaker 2: the back, Breen and I were talking about Dave Meltzer

1605
01:12:24,160 --> 01:12:25,800
Speaker 2: and then Tony Kahan comes up to us. He's like,

1606
01:12:25,840 --> 01:12:27,559
Speaker 2: you guys talking about Dave Meltzer and the wrestling homs

1607
01:12:27,560 --> 01:12:29,280
Speaker 2: are and we were like, yes, we are.

1608
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,920
Speaker 3: He introduced himself to us and I'll give me a

1609
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:32,599
Speaker 3: stone number back.

1610
01:12:32,640 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 6: Then.

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01:12:32,840 --> 01:12:33,000
Speaker 3: Yeah.

1612
01:12:33,160 --> 01:12:36,920
Speaker 4: By the way, Jack and Carnacio, who does some good

1613
01:12:37,000 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 4: MMA work his pro wrestling podcast that he does, the

1614
01:12:40,040 --> 01:12:43,000
Speaker 4: Lapse Fan. I've talked about it before with JP Sorrow.

1615
01:12:43,080 --> 01:12:46,160
Speaker 4: Luke is is R. It is R in terms of

1616
01:12:46,200 --> 01:12:48,160
Speaker 4: gold back and digging through and whatever.

1617
01:12:48,600 --> 01:12:48,840
Speaker 3: Quickly.

1618
01:12:48,880 --> 01:12:50,559
Speaker 4: Look, I did want to update. We just talked about

1619
01:12:50,600 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 4: that one heavyweight championship unification, which is this Friday morning,

1620
01:12:54,760 --> 01:12:57,960
Speaker 4: Malakin versus Buller I was corrected on this. It is

1621
01:12:58,160 --> 01:13:02,240
Speaker 4: not a prime video card. It will be streamed live

1622
01:13:02,720 --> 01:13:06,439
Speaker 4: on the one YouTube channel Friday morning along with watch

1623
01:13:06,800 --> 01:13:09,960
Speaker 4: dot ONEFC dot com, And the reason is so it

1624
01:13:10,040 --> 01:13:14,120
Speaker 4: can be shown in India in primetime for booler rather

1625
01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:17,439
Speaker 4: than in primetime in the US. So Friday morning on

1626
01:13:17,600 --> 01:13:21,800
Speaker 4: the One Championship YouTube page, the event is called one

1627
01:13:22,160 --> 01:13:25,080
Speaker 4: Friday Fights twenty two, So that's the correction on that.

1628
01:13:25,560 --> 01:13:28,120
Speaker 2: All right, BC, how about this one on my birthday,

1629
01:13:28,240 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 2: No Less, August fifth, Jessica Androge taking on Tatiana Suarez.

1630
01:13:34,160 --> 01:13:37,160
Speaker 2: Suarez is really gonna go for it. This fight is

1631
01:13:37,200 --> 01:13:39,479
Speaker 2: gonna be ad what one twenty five? Are the gonna

1632
01:13:39,479 --> 01:13:40,400
Speaker 2: go back to one fifteen?

1633
01:13:40,560 --> 01:13:43,000
Speaker 4: Actually I believe this is one fifteen because that is

1634
01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:46,479
Speaker 4: the direction Suarez after that comeback at flyweight has chosen.

1635
01:13:46,560 --> 01:13:49,720
Speaker 4: This was originally supposed to be Janji Roba in this fight,

1636
01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,799
Speaker 4: but she fell out Luke, So this is, in my opinion,

1637
01:13:52,880 --> 01:13:55,080
Speaker 4: a better matchup. But I've seen people hating on this matchup.

1638
01:13:55,280 --> 01:13:55,880
Speaker 4: Why would you?

1639
01:13:56,520 --> 01:13:58,240
Speaker 2: Well, I guess people are saying I guess people are

1640
01:13:58,280 --> 01:14:02,439
Speaker 2: saying Androge is Are they saying she's damaged goods or something?

1641
01:14:03,240 --> 01:14:04,639
Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not sure what they're saying.

1642
01:14:05,000 --> 01:14:07,360
Speaker 4: Okay, she might be by the way, She's taken a

1643
01:14:07,400 --> 01:14:09,840
Speaker 4: lot of fights in succession, some of them ill advised.

1644
01:14:10,120 --> 01:14:13,040
Speaker 4: She's gotten stopped in spectacular manner in ways we didn't

1645
01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:18,080
Speaker 4: see coming. But she's still a benchmark across two divisions

1646
01:14:18,120 --> 01:14:21,439
Speaker 4: in terms of you know whether you're angling toward the

1647
01:14:21,479 --> 01:14:24,760
Speaker 4: top or you're not. If this is Suarez's comeback fight

1648
01:14:24,880 --> 01:14:28,479
Speaker 4: at fly at Strawwait and this and the continuation of

1649
01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:31,800
Speaker 4: this comeback too, that's a great matchup to catapult her

1650
01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:33,640
Speaker 4: to even bigger things if she can win.

1651
01:14:33,800 --> 01:14:36,679
Speaker 2: Listen, Tatiana Suarez has lost a lot of time. She's

1652
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,599
Speaker 2: thirty two years of old. She's thirty two years old.

1653
01:14:40,280 --> 01:14:41,960
Speaker 2: It's time. It's time to make a move.

1654
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,040
Speaker 3: Why not? Why not?

1655
01:14:45,280 --> 01:14:47,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, dude, this is a fight. It's going to be

1656
01:14:47,400 --> 01:14:49,439
Speaker 4: very interesting, very interesting.

1657
01:14:49,840 --> 01:14:53,080
Speaker 2: Suarez's toughest test by far. Obviously she didn't sign in

1658
01:14:53,120 --> 01:14:55,000
Speaker 2: that Nina at the time, Nina answer off fight. She

1659
01:14:55,080 --> 01:14:57,360
Speaker 2: got it done, but it was really tough. Reinjured her neck.

1660
01:14:58,040 --> 01:14:59,880
Speaker 2: Big questions are going to be asked in this one

1661
01:15:00,000 --> 01:15:02,680
Speaker 2: about Tatiana Suarez. It's it's sink or swim and I'm

1662
01:15:02,680 --> 01:15:03,120
Speaker 2: ready for it.

1663
01:15:03,200 --> 01:15:06,040
Speaker 4: I'm ready for it now that championship mindset that they

1664
01:15:06,080 --> 01:15:10,040
Speaker 4: have in that house between PATCHI mix and uh there

1665
01:15:10,520 --> 01:15:11,479
Speaker 4: full speed ahead.

1666
01:15:11,520 --> 01:15:13,559
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, dude, that's a power couple.

1667
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,599
Speaker 2: If ever there was one BC on the same card,

1668
01:15:16,640 --> 01:15:20,280
Speaker 2: I think it's headlining it. Cory Sandhagen taking on Umar

1669
01:15:20,439 --> 01:15:25,160
Speaker 2: Normaga Madoff again UFC Nashville August fifth, BC again. I'm

1670
01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 2: not saying that they couldn't have done sand Haagen versus

1671
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:28,880
Speaker 2: somebody else and blah blah blah, all that kind of

1672
01:15:28,920 --> 01:15:33,439
Speaker 2: fun stuff, But BC Umar Madoff wants a taste of

1673
01:15:33,560 --> 01:15:36,560
Speaker 2: the spotlight. He's gonna jump right to the front of

1674
01:15:36,560 --> 01:15:39,000
Speaker 2: the line, taking on Corey Sandigan, who has looked really

1675
01:15:39,080 --> 01:15:41,559
Speaker 2: good of late, certainly in the Chieto Verified in particular.

1676
01:15:42,200 --> 01:15:46,160
Speaker 3: Tell me BC, you are very excited for this one. Please.

1677
01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:48,080
Speaker 4: This is one of one of the better fights on

1678
01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,200
Speaker 4: the count. You know this is in contention for like

1679
01:15:50,840 --> 01:15:53,360
Speaker 4: one of my most must see need to find answers.

1680
01:15:53,400 --> 01:15:55,880
Speaker 4: Why because Umar and Nomaga Metov. How many times do

1681
01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:58,400
Speaker 4: I share that that echo that I've heard across my

1682
01:15:58,560 --> 01:16:02,280
Speaker 4: dms that hey, BC been following this the abdulmen app

1683
01:16:02,320 --> 01:16:04,559
Speaker 4: family tree for a while. This guy is the best

1684
01:16:04,600 --> 01:16:06,559
Speaker 4: of all of them. Well, look, we have wondered why

1685
01:16:06,600 --> 01:16:09,120
Speaker 4: he was only ranked between ten and fifteen for a while,

1686
01:16:09,720 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 4: yet packaging together wins showing us that he's ready for

1687
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,000
Speaker 4: the top. So now they've corrected that by putting him

1688
01:16:16,000 --> 01:16:19,120
Speaker 4: in there with a guy who is right there trying

1689
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:21,519
Speaker 4: to get back into title contention himself coming off of

1690
01:16:21,560 --> 01:16:25,519
Speaker 4: a big win. Dude, you have to love, love, love

1691
01:16:25,680 --> 01:16:28,320
Speaker 4: this fight on so many levels, but it is going

1692
01:16:28,400 --> 01:16:30,680
Speaker 4: to think about it. The winner here is Are they

1693
01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,320
Speaker 4: fighting for a title like soon after this? It's hard

1694
01:16:33,360 --> 01:16:36,720
Speaker 4: to say because it's so crowded atop there, but Sanagan's

1695
01:16:36,760 --> 01:16:39,920
Speaker 4: back in a very good spot. Remagan Medov has the name,

1696
01:16:40,120 --> 01:16:43,840
Speaker 4: the momentum, the complete game. Do this a big ass

1697
01:16:43,960 --> 01:16:46,400
Speaker 4: fight for Nashville. You know, you notice Taichi Palace not

1698
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:48,679
Speaker 4: getting any of these, Luke, They're going back to Bistar

1699
01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:51,280
Speaker 4: and shit, they ain't getting shit the Taichie Palace. The

1700
01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,280
Speaker 4: only one who was willing to stand in that storm

1701
01:16:53,400 --> 01:16:58,920
Speaker 4: with Dana and say Covid, what Covid? Who shut up media?

1702
01:16:59,240 --> 01:16:59,400
Speaker 2: Right?

1703
01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:00,639
Speaker 3: That was tight?

1704
01:17:00,840 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 4: That's Taichi Palace was Chewbacca. Right, and Dana's like, nah, bro,

1705
01:17:04,640 --> 01:17:07,400
Speaker 4: all right, get away from us. Yeah, yeah, all right, Yeah.

1706
01:17:07,600 --> 01:17:10,519
Speaker 2: Tachi Palace was Covid Chewbacca and they just let Covid

1707
01:17:10,560 --> 01:17:12,880
Speaker 2: Chewbacca go. They just shot him into space and left

1708
01:17:12,960 --> 01:17:16,000
Speaker 2: him there. You know what I'm saying, all right? BC

1709
01:17:17,040 --> 01:17:21,960
Speaker 2: September tenth at UFC two ninety three Kaikar France taken

1710
01:17:22,000 --> 01:17:26,919
Speaker 2: on Manel cop Kaikr France. Obviously recently after that Albasi

1711
01:17:27,000 --> 01:17:28,760
Speaker 2: lost I think cops fight. He was supposed fight recently

1712
01:17:28,800 --> 01:17:31,960
Speaker 2: and it got canceled. Fun flyway contests. Both guys trying

1713
01:17:32,000 --> 01:17:32,640
Speaker 2: to get back after it.

1714
01:17:32,720 --> 01:17:36,200
Speaker 4: Here wants to smoke, dude, he wants it. This is

1715
01:17:36,240 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 4: gonna be a fun fight.

1716
01:17:37,680 --> 01:17:39,639
Speaker 2: And then last, but not least, this one is kind

1717
01:17:39,640 --> 01:17:42,600
Speaker 2: of interesting, actually, Cyril Ghan taking on Sergei Spivak at

1718
01:17:42,720 --> 01:17:45,960
Speaker 2: UFC Paris, September second. Here's why this is kind of

1719
01:17:46,000 --> 01:17:48,559
Speaker 2: interesting to MEBC is because gone, let's just be honest,

1720
01:17:49,200 --> 01:17:51,439
Speaker 2: looked like shit against John Jones. I mean, I don't

1721
01:17:51,439 --> 01:17:53,680
Speaker 2: know how else to say it, like, you should not

1722
01:17:53,880 --> 01:17:56,040
Speaker 2: look that bad in a UFC title fight, and he did.

1723
01:17:57,000 --> 01:17:59,920
Speaker 2: And Sergei Spivak is not the striker and probably not

1724
01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,439
Speaker 2: not even the athlete that Cyril Gon is. But but

1725
01:18:02,800 --> 01:18:06,479
Speaker 2: two things. One massively improved. He's not extreme coutory, he's

1726
01:18:06,520 --> 01:18:09,840
Speaker 2: really working on stuff. And two he can grapple, he

1727
01:18:09,920 --> 01:18:11,720
Speaker 2: can get a hold of you, he can throw, he

1728
01:18:11,800 --> 01:18:14,240
Speaker 2: can trip, he's got good takedowns, he's got very good

1729
01:18:14,280 --> 01:18:17,320
Speaker 2: top control. Is this one a little bit closer than

1730
01:18:17,680 --> 01:18:18,719
Speaker 2: we might be willing to admit?

1731
01:18:19,240 --> 01:18:21,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, this is really good matchmaking. Let's be really honest

1732
01:18:21,439 --> 01:18:24,000
Speaker 4: with that. Uh Spevak. By the way, just twenty eight,

1733
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:27,240
Speaker 4: which for heavyweight is like is like rookie, but yet

1734
01:18:27,560 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 4: has put together three in a row since that knockout

1735
01:18:30,000 --> 01:18:32,360
Speaker 4: loss to Tom aspinall And I mean, dude, those are

1736
01:18:32,400 --> 01:18:35,360
Speaker 4: stoppages and they're in, they're they build in quality from

1737
01:18:35,400 --> 01:18:39,080
Speaker 4: Greg Hardy to Augusto Soochaia Derek Lewis. That's why I

1738
01:18:39,240 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 4: like this, because you're getting gone. Who has this cloud

1739
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:45,040
Speaker 4: of like is it damaged goods or not damage goods?

1740
01:18:45,080 --> 01:18:47,320
Speaker 4: But has he peaked? Will he be able to look?

1741
01:18:47,400 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 4: I still think we cannot count out Cyril God. I

1742
01:18:50,360 --> 01:18:53,479
Speaker 4: mean that look this that last loss was bad. The

1743
01:18:53,560 --> 01:18:56,320
Speaker 4: francis lost in some ways. In hindsight, you can make

1744
01:18:56,360 --> 01:18:59,240
Speaker 4: the same argument in certain categories, you know, allowing him

1745
01:18:59,280 --> 01:19:00,880
Speaker 4: to come in there on one leg and I'll wrestle

1746
01:19:00,960 --> 01:19:04,000
Speaker 4: you like that. But that guy, it's not that long

1747
01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:06,120
Speaker 4: ago we were like, we've never seen a heavyweight like this.

1748
01:19:06,680 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 4: It's going to be up to him and his team

1749
01:19:08,600 --> 01:19:12,880
Speaker 4: to really turn this momentum and label around. But you

1750
01:19:13,040 --> 01:19:16,280
Speaker 4: know they have the foundation to do that. Speedvac coming

1751
01:19:16,320 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 4: in so dominant of late, but yet hasn't beaten a

1752
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 4: name on this level. It's just perfect, and you're doing

1753
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 4: it in Paris, which means you're giving Gon every chance

1754
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 4: to kind of right this wrong and remain in this

1755
01:19:28,040 --> 01:19:30,639
Speaker 4: elite circle and get back into the title picture. Look

1756
01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,920
Speaker 4: for the sake of his growth and where he was,

1757
01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 4: you hope to see it. That's no disrespect to Sergey Spevac,

1758
01:19:36,160 --> 01:19:39,280
Speaker 4: but it's like, this heavyweight division is better if somebody

1759
01:19:39,400 --> 01:19:42,400
Speaker 4: with Cyril Goan's game, with the uniqueness of some of

1760
01:19:42,439 --> 01:19:44,560
Speaker 4: the things he does well, can be in there to

1761
01:19:44,640 --> 01:19:47,759
Speaker 4: see what that looks like. But in terms of damage

1762
01:19:47,800 --> 01:19:50,559
Speaker 4: repair to the reputation, this is the fight. He's got

1763
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:53,280
Speaker 4: to bring it. He's got to bring it, Luke Thomas,

1764
01:19:53,360 --> 01:19:56,400
Speaker 4: He's got to come with the fight and show us things.

1765
01:19:56,880 --> 01:19:59,320
Speaker 3: So the French market is huge and they're taking him

1766
01:19:59,360 --> 01:19:59,760
Speaker 3: back there.

1767
01:20:00,000 --> 01:20:03,679
Speaker 2: It's important to you know, it's important for everyone, honestly

1768
01:20:03,760 --> 01:20:05,960
Speaker 2: on that night, for gone for UFC, for a lot

1769
01:20:06,040 --> 01:20:08,000
Speaker 2: of folks, that that goes the way it's supposed to.

1770
01:20:08,080 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, Spivak can I mean, dude, that one's

1771
01:20:11,200 --> 01:20:12,840
Speaker 2: got spoiler written all over it.

1772
01:20:12,960 --> 01:20:14,320
Speaker 3: There's a lot of ways that goes poorly.

1773
01:20:14,400 --> 01:20:15,960
Speaker 2: But to your point, if he really does bring it,

1774
01:20:16,000 --> 01:20:17,680
Speaker 2: if he really has worked on stuff, if that was

1775
01:20:17,720 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 2: a bit of a wake up call, who knows what

1776
01:20:19,360 --> 01:20:21,040
Speaker 2: was possible. It's such a great athlete, you know, he

1777
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:22,800
Speaker 2: can probably do a lot. He's still again he's not

1778
01:20:22,880 --> 01:20:24,800
Speaker 2: Sergey Spivak young, but he's still pretty young for a

1779
01:20:24,800 --> 01:20:26,080
Speaker 2: heavyweight I think with thirty three or so.

1780
01:20:26,320 --> 01:20:29,360
Speaker 3: So yeah, could be good, could be fun.

1781
01:20:29,320 --> 01:20:31,560
Speaker 4: Quickly in boxing. Look, we've touched on this before but

1782
01:20:31,680 --> 01:20:35,639
Speaker 4: haven't really put it to context. The dates aren't official yet,

1783
01:20:35,800 --> 01:20:38,799
Speaker 4: but the contract has been signed for David Morrell, unbeaten

1784
01:20:39,000 --> 01:20:43,360
Speaker 4: secondary super middleweight sidele holder, to fight David Benavidez. It's

1785
01:20:43,479 --> 01:20:46,960
Speaker 4: they're saying October November. The Komane, by the way, would

1786
01:20:46,960 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 4: be a rematch with Fondora against Brian Mendoza, who knocked

1787
01:20:50,520 --> 01:20:53,080
Speaker 4: him out via upset in that fight. But on the

1788
01:20:53,240 --> 01:20:54,880
Speaker 4: other side of that, because we all what do we

1789
01:20:55,000 --> 01:20:57,719
Speaker 4: really want? We want Canelo versus Benavidez for all four belts.

1790
01:20:58,280 --> 01:21:00,760
Speaker 4: I think this is okay as a take. It's a

1791
01:21:00,800 --> 01:21:04,160
Speaker 4: great fight Morele and Benvitez if it's building toward what

1792
01:21:04,280 --> 01:21:06,720
Speaker 4: we want. Canelo got denied by Badu Jack when he

1793
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:09,080
Speaker 4: tried to force him to come down like twenty pounds

1794
01:21:09,160 --> 01:21:13,519
Speaker 4: to defend his cruiserweight title. And it looks like Dimitri

1795
01:21:13,600 --> 01:21:16,479
Speaker 4: beeval has pulled out of negotiations for a rematch because

1796
01:21:16,560 --> 01:21:19,080
Speaker 4: Canelo's not offering him enough money and Beevall wants to

1797
01:21:19,160 --> 01:21:21,479
Speaker 4: do the rematch at sixty eight for all the titles.

1798
01:21:22,040 --> 01:21:25,800
Speaker 4: This rumor of Canelo versus Jamal Charlow later this year

1799
01:21:25,840 --> 01:21:28,280
Speaker 4: on pay per view is picking up. Dude, are you

1800
01:21:28,400 --> 01:21:29,800
Speaker 4: okay with this as a final four?

1801
01:21:29,920 --> 01:21:29,960
Speaker 5: Like?

1802
01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:32,120
Speaker 4: As a boxing fan, does this get you fired up?

1803
01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,760
Speaker 4: If we're being told if this plays out this way

1804
01:21:34,800 --> 01:21:36,880
Speaker 4: the second half of this year, that these two fights

1805
01:21:36,920 --> 01:21:39,160
Speaker 4: would happen, and then you know, in a perfect world,

1806
01:21:39,200 --> 01:21:41,120
Speaker 4: these they fight, the winner fights each other. To really

1807
01:21:41,160 --> 01:21:42,599
Speaker 4: find out who's the best super middleweight.

1808
01:21:42,960 --> 01:21:44,560
Speaker 2: I don't mind it. I don't mind it if he

1809
01:21:44,640 --> 01:21:46,200
Speaker 2: had gone to BAT. I know everyone's gonna say, you

1810
01:21:46,200 --> 01:21:47,920
Speaker 2: don't mind it because it's all because it's again, I

1811
01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,040
Speaker 2: don't know which network's gonna get it, but I'm assuming

1812
01:21:50,080 --> 01:21:51,719
Speaker 2: if he fights Charlo it'll be on Showtime.

1813
01:21:51,760 --> 01:21:52,559
Speaker 3: That's just my guess.

1814
01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,519
Speaker 2: And yeah, like we obviously would love to work that

1815
01:21:55,600 --> 01:21:58,240
Speaker 2: fight PC. But more to the point, I mean, the jackfight,

1816
01:21:58,320 --> 01:22:01,040
Speaker 2: especially with the twenty pound clause, just didn't make a

1817
01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:02,639
Speaker 2: lot of sense to me. I get it, it made

1818
01:22:02,680 --> 01:22:04,719
Speaker 2: sense monetarily because that was gonna be a Saudi Arabian

1819
01:22:04,800 --> 01:22:08,080
Speaker 2: backed fight, but it's like, what did that fight do

1820
01:22:08,240 --> 01:22:08,759
Speaker 2: for anybody?

1821
01:22:08,800 --> 01:22:10,080
Speaker 3: It didn't do anything for me.

1822
01:22:10,200 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 2: Even though Jack had a nice win in his last

1823
01:22:12,040 --> 01:22:14,559
Speaker 2: outing and had looked pretty good. Still, I just didn't

1824
01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:16,600
Speaker 2: want to see that one. And I still think the

1825
01:22:16,680 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 2: fight to make is Canelo versus Benefitez. Absolutely, But if

1826
01:22:20,600 --> 01:22:23,240
Speaker 2: you're not going to make that, do I see Charlo

1827
01:22:23,400 --> 01:22:27,599
Speaker 2: as a suitable other choice to go to, even if

1828
01:22:27,680 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 2: not quite as exciting for me as Bena Vitez. Yes,

1829
01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,519
Speaker 2: I do, I do see that. I think Charlo could

1830
01:22:32,560 --> 01:22:37,800
Speaker 2: provide again if Charlo has been obviously in a two

1831
01:22:37,880 --> 01:22:42,320
Speaker 2: years dude, but I think at his best, could he

1832
01:22:42,479 --> 01:22:45,840
Speaker 2: take on a somewhat subdued version of Canelo and win.

1833
01:22:46,600 --> 01:22:48,360
Speaker 3: I think that's a little bit more on the table

1834
01:22:48,439 --> 01:22:50,840
Speaker 3: than folks might want to admit. I agree, I.

1835
01:22:50,880 --> 01:22:53,479
Speaker 4: Think the gap closes a little bit. Charlo I've always

1836
01:22:53,560 --> 01:22:55,920
Speaker 4: felt would be an interesting fight against Canelo, with that

1837
01:22:56,120 --> 01:23:00,360
Speaker 4: mixture of speed, power and boxing understanding and ability. We'd

1838
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:01,840
Speaker 4: have to see what he looks like at sixty eight.

1839
01:23:01,920 --> 01:23:04,560
Speaker 4: There's a long layoff. He's gone through some personal turmoil

1840
01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:06,960
Speaker 4: that has kept him out. He's he wants to come

1841
01:23:07,040 --> 01:23:10,479
Speaker 4: back though. If UD's that's telling you that we're building

1842
01:23:10,800 --> 01:23:14,240
Speaker 4: toward Canelo Benavillez hopefully right. Nothing's guaranteed, but we'll see.

1843
01:23:14,240 --> 01:23:16,719
Speaker 4: If it goes that way, I'll be fired up and quickly.

1844
01:23:16,840 --> 01:23:18,360
Speaker 4: Luke on the way out here on boxing, I just

1845
01:23:18,439 --> 01:23:21,080
Speaker 4: want to get your reaction. There's a great boxing podcast

1846
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:23,280
Speaker 4: out there. We've gone up against it in the Awards

1847
01:23:23,360 --> 01:23:27,040
Speaker 4: before and one out, but Tris Dixon of the UK

1848
01:23:27,240 --> 01:23:30,080
Speaker 4: puts out Boxing Life Stories, which is just a one

1849
01:23:30,120 --> 01:23:32,560
Speaker 4: on one interview with anyone in the boxing you know,

1850
01:23:32,800 --> 01:23:35,400
Speaker 4: business of renown. Two little nuggets came out of me.

1851
01:23:35,680 --> 01:23:37,680
Speaker 4: On a listening session of Late he just talked to

1852
01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:39,519
Speaker 4: Hall of Famer Tim Bradley, who went in a couple

1853
01:23:39,560 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 4: weeks ago. Bradley revealed that after retiring, the biggest offer

1854
01:23:45,200 --> 01:23:48,679
Speaker 4: that almost made him consider coming back was to box

1855
01:23:48,800 --> 01:23:56,400
Speaker 4: your Riyah Faber. Your thoughts, Tim Bradley, Yep, that's the

1856
01:23:56,520 --> 01:23:57,120
Speaker 4: reveal eight.

1857
01:23:57,960 --> 01:23:58,400
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1858
01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:01,000
Speaker 4: I'm assuming it was in the past couple of years

1859
01:24:01,080 --> 01:24:03,960
Speaker 4: during this boxing bubble of Jake Paul and the old

1860
01:24:04,000 --> 01:24:06,200
Speaker 4: guy's coming back. But what is that?

1861
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:06,960
Speaker 7: What is that?

1862
01:24:07,360 --> 01:24:08,360
Speaker 3: Dude? I love your Riyah?

1863
01:24:08,439 --> 01:24:10,439
Speaker 2: We had him on RSD. The guy's been one of

1864
01:24:10,479 --> 01:24:13,960
Speaker 2: the best ambassadors the sports ever seen. But Timothy Bradley

1865
01:24:13,960 --> 01:24:16,000
Speaker 2: would probably fuck him up, right. I mean, like, you know,

1866
01:24:17,400 --> 01:24:21,120
Speaker 2: the other thing, Luke is just make no sense?

1867
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:24,760
Speaker 4: Well, Canelo trying to get Badu Jack down so far

1868
01:24:24,880 --> 01:24:27,719
Speaker 4: in Wait gots people pissed off. But in some ways

1869
01:24:27,760 --> 01:24:30,120
Speaker 4: it's like, remember Roy Jones moved all the way up

1870
01:24:30,160 --> 01:24:32,439
Speaker 4: to heavyweight, but he picked the one heavyweight that he

1871
01:24:32,520 --> 01:24:34,840
Speaker 4: felt was the easiest to potentially win the gain A belt.

1872
01:24:35,000 --> 01:24:36,960
Speaker 4: That was John Ruiz, and to his credit, he won that.

1873
01:24:37,320 --> 01:24:39,640
Speaker 4: Colonel Bob Sheridan, who's now at the end of his

1874
01:24:40,240 --> 01:24:43,720
Speaker 4: life in announcing career and Insane It's Crazy, was on

1875
01:24:43,800 --> 01:24:46,200
Speaker 4: that podcast. He revealed something I hadn't heard before. I

1876
01:24:46,200 --> 01:24:49,479
Speaker 4: wanted to get your reaction that Ruiz caught his wife

1877
01:24:49,680 --> 01:24:52,160
Speaker 4: in bed with another man two nights before the Roy

1878
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,320
Speaker 4: Jones fight and that was ultimately the reason why he

1879
01:24:55,400 --> 01:24:58,360
Speaker 4: fought so skittish and his corner was screaming at him

1880
01:24:58,360 --> 01:25:01,400
Speaker 4: to come forward, but Jones is kept neutralizing him. Isn't

1881
01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:03,640
Speaker 4: that a wild story? If true? Colonel Bobs says a

1882
01:25:03,640 --> 01:25:05,320
Speaker 4: lot of bullshit, So I don't know, but that's wild.

1883
01:25:05,960 --> 01:25:08,280
Speaker 2: Colonel Bob says a lot of Colonel Bob things. I

1884
01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,720
Speaker 2: don't know how much I believe that. I'll say this.

1885
01:25:10,880 --> 01:25:12,720
Speaker 3: If it is true, I could understand it. I mean,

1886
01:25:12,760 --> 01:25:13,160
Speaker 3: that would be.

1887
01:25:13,200 --> 01:25:16,880
Speaker 2: Devastating, you know what I mean, absolutely, I mean, Bob,

1888
01:25:16,920 --> 01:25:17,920
Speaker 2: filter's got to be strong.

1889
01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:21,679
Speaker 4: You remember Patio Marquez three, which was like the arguably

1890
01:25:21,760 --> 01:25:24,840
Speaker 4: the closest fight of that thing. Remember in the locker

1891
01:25:24,960 --> 01:25:28,439
Speaker 4: room five minutes before the ring walk Reportedly, Pakiao's wife

1892
01:25:28,479 --> 01:25:31,200
Speaker 4: approached him about his years of infidelity and like had

1893
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:34,200
Speaker 4: like an intervention. It's always wild to me, Luke. We

1894
01:25:34,280 --> 01:25:37,160
Speaker 4: talked about Tayo Femo before he fought, before he fought.

1895
01:25:37,240 --> 01:25:37,360
Speaker 5: Uh.

1896
01:25:38,120 --> 01:25:40,640
Speaker 4: The Japanese guy the name I always forget had to

1897
01:25:40,720 --> 01:25:43,880
Speaker 4: separate his mom and sun Nakatani had to separate his

1898
01:25:44,000 --> 01:25:45,960
Speaker 4: mom and sister in the locker room from fighting his

1899
01:25:46,080 --> 01:25:49,040
Speaker 4: then fiance. Like craziness happens behind the scenes. You don't

1900
01:25:49,040 --> 01:25:51,599
Speaker 4: always get the full story, Luke. It's it's it's life.

1901
01:25:51,680 --> 01:25:52,080
Speaker 4: That's life.

1902
01:25:52,120 --> 01:25:55,200
Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, these women did you know what I'm saying?

1903
01:25:56,080 --> 01:25:56,640
Speaker 7: You knew what?

1904
01:25:58,160 --> 01:26:00,240
Speaker 4: Yeah? People only knew what you went through ten minutes

1905
01:26:00,280 --> 01:26:02,160
Speaker 4: before an episode. You know, when you're in the commode

1906
01:26:02,280 --> 01:26:05,519
Speaker 4: just tearing porcelain, sweating, and then you just arrive in

1907
01:26:05,600 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 4: your chair like nothing happened. Luke.

1908
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:09,240
Speaker 3: You know, I take dumps.

1909
01:26:11,760 --> 01:26:13,479
Speaker 4: There should be a T shirt there you go? Are

1910
01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:14,439
Speaker 4: you ready for fan subs?

1911
01:26:14,479 --> 01:26:14,639
Speaker 5: Luke?

1912
01:26:15,000 --> 01:26:17,320
Speaker 3: See it, let's see it. You know what average Joe

1913
01:26:17,479 --> 01:26:18,160
Speaker 3: art has been.

1914
01:26:19,120 --> 01:26:21,920
Speaker 2: He's been very vocal that he's got something special for us,

1915
01:26:22,479 --> 01:26:23,280
Speaker 2: very vocal.

1916
01:26:23,520 --> 01:26:23,920
Speaker 4: Great man.

1917
01:26:24,000 --> 01:26:24,160
Speaker 3: There.

1918
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:28,120
Speaker 4: Morning Combat at gmail dot com allows you to send

1919
01:26:28,200 --> 01:26:30,920
Speaker 4: in your fan art pictures of you and your wife

1920
01:26:30,960 --> 01:26:35,320
Speaker 4: and tight T shirts. We call this fan submissions, You've

1921
01:26:35,360 --> 01:26:35,960
Speaker 4: got mail?

1922
01:26:36,640 --> 01:26:45,280
Speaker 3: Feures, Lucy? So is Jay still mad at me? For everything? J?

1923
01:26:45,439 --> 01:26:48,280
Speaker 4: Piquette? I love ja co Donk of the Year lest year,

1924
01:26:48,280 --> 01:26:50,320
Speaker 4: I'm not sure. I hope he's okay. Luca, I hope

1925
01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:52,519
Speaker 4: he's okay. I think he's taking a hiatus from the show,

1926
01:26:52,960 --> 01:26:56,439
Speaker 4: but I hope he's okay. Like, but is it Are

1927
01:26:56,479 --> 01:26:58,960
Speaker 4: we doing something wrong that our Donk of the Year

1928
01:26:59,080 --> 01:27:02,000
Speaker 4: for three straight years no longer watches our show? Luke,

1929
01:27:02,680 --> 01:27:04,320
Speaker 4: as far as I'm concerned, I.

1930
01:27:04,360 --> 01:27:05,840
Speaker 3: Mean, probably on some level.

1931
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Speaker 2: But at the same time, it's like it wasn't like

1932
01:27:09,600 --> 01:27:12,439
Speaker 2: anything we said was actually serious. I mean, that's the

1933
01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:14,360
Speaker 2: point I keep trying to come back to, right. It's like,

1934
01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,240
Speaker 2: were you trying to be intentionally hurtful?

1935
01:27:17,280 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 3: Well, yes, but.

1936
01:27:20,000 --> 01:27:22,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, but only exactly, only for the lulls, not to like,

1937
01:27:23,520 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 2: not to be like, hey, fuck you guys.

1938
01:27:24,920 --> 01:27:26,599
Speaker 3: I mean, of course that's not what I'm doing. Why

1939
01:27:26,640 --> 01:27:27,120
Speaker 3: would I do that?

1940
01:27:27,280 --> 01:27:31,120
Speaker 2: Like it makes no sense? But you know, I get

1941
01:27:31,160 --> 01:27:33,360
Speaker 2: people don't get Seinfeld. I guess they don't get the show.

1942
01:27:33,400 --> 01:27:33,720
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1943
01:27:33,960 --> 01:27:36,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean maybe maybe people don't. We mean, well,

1944
01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:38,639
Speaker 4: though we have good intentions, we love our fans.

1945
01:27:38,880 --> 01:27:40,439
Speaker 2: I feel bad, but I'm not sure what I'm supposed

1946
01:27:40,439 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 2: to do other than just not not roast people, but

1947
01:27:42,840 --> 01:27:46,200
Speaker 2: like it's too much fun and you know of me.

1948
01:27:46,640 --> 01:27:50,200
Speaker 4: Would you be willing to do a zoom intervention that's

1949
01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:53,559
Speaker 4: recorded between you and the paquettes where you can air

1950
01:27:53,640 --> 01:27:54,960
Speaker 4: it out for the m K pupp or am I

1951
01:27:55,040 --> 01:27:56,599
Speaker 4: already starting more trouble? I'm already?

1952
01:27:56,600 --> 01:27:58,280
Speaker 2: Oh you were, Yes, I would do I would do that,

1953
01:27:58,439 --> 01:28:00,680
Speaker 2: except as soon as they ask the first question, I

1954
01:28:00,720 --> 01:28:01,439
Speaker 2: would just hang up.

1955
01:28:03,080 --> 01:28:05,479
Speaker 4: She actually tricked me. I thought you were surprisingly into it.

1956
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:07,240
Speaker 4: I was like, what, really, this would be great? I mean,

1957
01:28:07,280 --> 01:28:12,880
Speaker 4: you know, I remember documentary Documentary. I was willing to

1958
01:28:12,960 --> 01:28:15,000
Speaker 4: let the DONK cameras in on your dinner with Arie

1959
01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:17,160
Speaker 4: all that time in Cleveland for documentary five.

1960
01:28:17,240 --> 01:28:19,599
Speaker 3: But you were willing. It wasn't your choice.

1961
01:28:20,120 --> 01:28:22,439
Speaker 4: I was also willing to let the cameras come into

1962
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:25,120
Speaker 4: my therapy sessions and where where I talk about you, Luke,

1963
01:28:25,160 --> 01:28:26,960
Speaker 4: or maybe have you in there for couples therapy. I

1964
01:28:27,000 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 4: wish our team was more willing to peel back that

1965
01:28:30,200 --> 01:28:31,840
Speaker 4: onion with me on camera.

1966
01:28:32,479 --> 01:28:35,000
Speaker 2: No, dude, they want to look at Sudoku puzzles. On

1967
01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:36,760
Speaker 2: their phone and then just hit the button on the

1968
01:28:36,800 --> 01:28:38,160
Speaker 2: camera and then check out.

1969
01:28:38,760 --> 01:28:41,040
Speaker 4: All right, our first fan subs from Peter. He says, Hey,

1970
01:28:41,120 --> 01:28:44,240
Speaker 4: Luken BC, Peter here with a selfie of myself after

1971
01:28:44,320 --> 01:28:47,679
Speaker 4: my morning at champ Camp. I'm here for a week

1972
01:28:48,240 --> 01:28:51,160
Speaker 4: helping kids with burn injuries have better lives. I ran

1973
01:28:51,240 --> 01:28:54,280
Speaker 4: a mile while listening to you and wearing my hat

1974
01:28:54,360 --> 01:28:56,960
Speaker 4: to help spread the word. Love the show. Listening to

1975
01:28:57,120 --> 01:29:00,200
Speaker 4: guys helps me run through the pain and for get

1976
01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,880
Speaker 4: how washed I am. Keep up the great work. It's Peter.

1977
01:29:03,920 --> 01:29:06,720
Speaker 3: Now let me pick a let me I have a

1978
01:29:06,760 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 3: bone to pick here a little bit.

1979
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:13,200
Speaker 2: Uh. I don't know if that's what's happening here, but

1980
01:29:13,360 --> 01:29:16,880
Speaker 2: so let me just say this. I don't understand the

1981
01:29:17,000 --> 01:29:19,240
Speaker 2: dudes who run with the tactical vests.

1982
01:29:19,320 --> 01:29:22,479
Speaker 3: Can I be honest about that. Here's what I mean

1983
01:29:22,520 --> 01:29:22,720
Speaker 3: by that.

1984
01:29:23,439 --> 01:29:27,000
Speaker 2: It's like, if you need a camelback for water. I

1985
01:29:27,120 --> 01:29:29,760
Speaker 2: get that that part I completely understand, right, And you

1986
01:29:29,800 --> 01:29:32,280
Speaker 2: can put keys or whatever in there, you know, fine,

1987
01:29:32,960 --> 01:29:34,800
Speaker 2: But the tactical vest where you're just trying to weigh

1988
01:29:34,840 --> 01:29:37,519
Speaker 2: yourself down, It's like, dude, the only people who need

1989
01:29:37,640 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 2: that are like legitimate CrossFit competitors. Rather than just wearing

1990
01:29:42,360 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 2: the extra weight vest, why not just run further or

1991
01:29:46,520 --> 01:29:50,640
Speaker 2: like faster, rather than putting stress on your joints by

1992
01:29:50,720 --> 01:29:52,920
Speaker 2: the added weight that you don't actually carry.

1993
01:29:53,920 --> 01:29:55,639
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, This man.

1994
01:29:56,080 --> 01:29:58,759
Speaker 4: You know, took our brand, brought it to this amazing

1995
01:29:58,840 --> 01:30:01,880
Speaker 4: camp where he helps earned victim children, and yet got

1996
01:30:02,000 --> 01:30:05,519
Speaker 4: to work out, and you're pedantically ripping apart his choice.

1997
01:30:05,560 --> 01:30:07,880
Speaker 3: Again, this is what we do. I'm in no way

1998
01:30:08,000 --> 01:30:10,479
Speaker 3: saying anything of value. I hope you understand that.

1999
01:30:10,800 --> 01:30:12,759
Speaker 4: Well. I don't think we do. We offer much value

2000
01:30:12,840 --> 01:30:15,600
Speaker 4: on the show in terms of actual you know. But no,

2001
01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,679
Speaker 4: I hear what you're saying. I don't know. I once

2002
01:30:17,800 --> 01:30:19,400
Speaker 4: tried it out to be a fireman. So I took

2003
01:30:19,439 --> 01:30:24,120
Speaker 4: the physical test, which which is hard. Oh it's real hard, dude.

2004
01:30:24,400 --> 01:30:26,760
Speaker 4: So the training I had to do was I used

2005
01:30:26,760 --> 01:30:28,160
Speaker 4: to put on the tactical vest and run on the

2006
01:30:28,200 --> 01:30:31,360
Speaker 4: treadmill because the first part of the physical fireman test,

2007
01:30:31,600 --> 01:30:33,799
Speaker 4: the one I took, was you put on a fifty

2008
01:30:33,840 --> 01:30:36,840
Speaker 4: pound weight vest and you run on a stare machine

2009
01:30:36,840 --> 01:30:40,240
Speaker 4: that increasingly gets higher for like ten minutes, and then

2010
01:30:40,320 --> 01:30:42,760
Speaker 4: the last five minutes they put a seventy five pound weight.

2011
01:30:42,840 --> 01:30:46,000
Speaker 4: Vest on you, Luke. I had to work the night

2012
01:30:46,000 --> 01:30:48,080
Speaker 4: before at ESPN. I was up all night with no sleep.

2013
01:30:48,120 --> 01:30:50,880
Speaker 4: I took the test at seven am. I was fifth

2014
01:30:50,920 --> 01:30:53,559
Speaker 4: in line. There was forty people there. The first four

2015
01:30:53,600 --> 01:30:56,160
Speaker 4: in front of me collapsed on the treadmill in front

2016
01:30:56,200 --> 01:30:58,240
Speaker 4: of me and didn't get to finish. By the way,

2017
01:30:58,240 --> 01:31:00,559
Speaker 4: I finished fourth out of forty people.

2018
01:31:00,800 --> 01:31:01,400
Speaker 3: That's pretty good.

2019
01:31:01,720 --> 01:31:03,879
Speaker 4: I was prime, twenty eight year old BC. I absolutely

2020
01:31:04,000 --> 01:31:04,320
Speaker 4: brought it.

2021
01:31:04,439 --> 01:31:05,080
Speaker 3: It's pretty good.

2022
01:31:05,120 --> 01:31:06,840
Speaker 2: I think the most I ever held in a pack

2023
01:31:07,000 --> 01:31:09,400
Speaker 2: was about one hundred maybe one hundred and twenty pounds,

2024
01:31:10,680 --> 01:31:12,120
Speaker 2: and that was only because I had to carry the

2025
01:31:12,200 --> 01:31:14,320
Speaker 2: batteries for the sing guard. Anyone who knows what that is,

2026
01:31:14,360 --> 01:31:18,160
Speaker 2: we'll understand what I mean. So, so that's so you

2027
01:31:18,240 --> 01:31:20,320
Speaker 2: had to You couldn't put it on standing. They actually

2028
01:31:20,320 --> 01:31:22,240
Speaker 2: had to roll you over like a beetle rather than

2029
01:31:22,320 --> 01:31:23,960
Speaker 2: like try to try to pick it up and carry

2030
01:31:23,960 --> 01:31:24,840
Speaker 2: it on your back that way.

2031
01:31:25,320 --> 01:31:28,400
Speaker 3: Wow, and uh, that sucked. That was real fucking bad.

2032
01:31:28,520 --> 01:31:29,559
Speaker 3: That was real fucking bad.

2033
01:31:30,080 --> 01:31:32,240
Speaker 4: You know what the hardest part of this firement test

2034
01:31:32,360 --> 01:31:35,320
Speaker 4: by far was dragging the one hundred and sixty five

2035
01:31:35,360 --> 01:31:37,760
Speaker 4: pound dummy like all the way across the bar.

2036
01:31:38,080 --> 01:31:41,559
Speaker 2: Oh dude, that uh that is So there's this thing

2037
01:31:41,600 --> 01:31:44,200
Speaker 2: they do in jiu jitsu where you can you can

2038
01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:46,120
Speaker 2: if it's if it's no g you can just kind

2039
01:31:46,120 --> 01:31:47,920
Speaker 2: of hold your hands behind it like in a clanchmi.

2040
01:31:47,920 --> 01:31:49,320
Speaker 3: If they have a gee on, you can wrap whether

2041
01:31:49,320 --> 01:31:51,320
Speaker 3: they're gee and then hold it. And so you do.

2042
01:31:51,479 --> 01:31:53,840
Speaker 2: You partner up and the one person lays on their

2043
01:31:53,840 --> 01:31:55,479
Speaker 2: back and you stand over them. They grab your gee

2044
01:31:55,560 --> 01:31:57,400
Speaker 2: or your neck or whatever, and then you carry them

2045
01:31:57,560 --> 01:31:58,880
Speaker 2: endo the floor to end of the floor and this

2046
01:31:59,160 --> 01:32:02,360
Speaker 2: you do several like that as fast as you can do.

2047
01:32:02,640 --> 01:32:03,640
Speaker 2: That will kill you.

2048
01:32:04,000 --> 01:32:05,560
Speaker 3: That will absolutely murder you.

2049
01:32:06,080 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 4: Yeah. So it's at the end of the circuit thing.

2050
01:32:09,479 --> 01:32:12,080
Speaker 4: So you're timed right, and the top times are under

2051
01:32:12,160 --> 01:32:14,640
Speaker 4: consideration forgetting the job. But dude, it's at the end

2052
01:32:14,680 --> 01:32:17,960
Speaker 4: of it. You have to summon strength that's like beyond

2053
01:32:18,040 --> 01:32:20,440
Speaker 4: your loins, Like you have to pull on like adrenaline

2054
01:32:20,439 --> 01:32:22,720
Speaker 4: based superhuman strength to be able to pull it off.

2055
01:32:22,840 --> 01:32:25,080
Speaker 4: If you're a regular build guy like me, Like, it

2056
01:32:25,200 --> 01:32:28,120
Speaker 4: was ridiculous. I was fine with crawling on my stomach

2057
01:32:28,160 --> 01:32:30,040
Speaker 4: through the darkened area. I was fine with you know,

2058
01:32:30,080 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 4: all this the tests of strength would shop that's different

2059
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,000
Speaker 4: strength dragging a body. That's like, dude, I was there.

2060
01:32:37,040 --> 01:32:40,640
Speaker 2: We have to have core strength, balance, drive. Okay, So

2061
01:32:40,680 --> 01:32:43,000
Speaker 2: the last thing on this, this gentleman seems fine. I'm

2062
01:32:43,040 --> 01:32:44,760
Speaker 2: picking on this gentleman unfairly, but I do want to

2063
01:32:44,800 --> 01:32:46,840
Speaker 2: point out, like in DC, and I've seen in New

2064
01:32:46,880 --> 01:32:48,920
Speaker 2: York a little bit too, you see these guys.

2065
01:32:49,000 --> 01:32:49,840
Speaker 3: Two things are happening.

2066
01:32:49,920 --> 01:32:52,960
Speaker 2: One, they'll wear backpacks, and it's like, dude, you like again,

2067
01:32:53,080 --> 01:32:55,240
Speaker 2: there are certain kinds of guys who might need backpacks,

2068
01:32:55,280 --> 01:32:56,880
Speaker 2: but nine to nine percent of people who wear backpacks

2069
01:32:56,920 --> 01:32:59,200
Speaker 2: are running, don't need backpacks. And the other one that

2070
01:32:59,280 --> 01:33:01,920
Speaker 2: gets me is the guys who run in the fucking street.

2071
01:33:02,000 --> 01:33:02,560
Speaker 3: Have you seen this?

2072
01:33:03,320 --> 01:33:07,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like, dude, get the fuck out of the street,

2073
01:33:07,920 --> 01:33:10,759
Speaker 2: get on the sidewalk and then just move around people,

2074
01:33:11,000 --> 01:33:12,640
Speaker 2: or if you don't want to do that, go to

2075
01:33:12,720 --> 01:33:13,160
Speaker 2: a track.

2076
01:33:13,720 --> 01:33:16,599
Speaker 3: Get the fuck out of the road. Please. Thank you. Wow.

2077
01:33:16,880 --> 01:33:20,240
Speaker 4: There's a public service message from DC resident Luke Thomas.

2078
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,800
Speaker 4: Thank you, Peter for yours. I appreciate the work you

2079
01:33:23,880 --> 01:33:26,519
Speaker 4: do for those kids. Love it. Let's go over to Brian.

2080
01:33:26,600 --> 01:33:29,120
Speaker 4: Here you picture. He has a picture for BC. Let's

2081
01:33:29,120 --> 01:33:29,920
Speaker 4: see what he's got here.

2082
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,080
Speaker 3: You damn right that that's a nicely manicured lawn. Look

2083
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:37,679
Speaker 3: at that? Wow?

2084
01:33:37,800 --> 01:33:39,680
Speaker 4: That is that is It is all about the art

2085
01:33:39,720 --> 01:33:40,080
Speaker 4: this show.

2086
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 3: Thank you.

2087
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,559
Speaker 4: Some people get it, Luke, some people don't. We're moving

2088
01:33:43,560 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 4: on to Courtney. Wow, we have female listeners. Good morning.

2089
01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,040
Speaker 4: I was driving to work this morning, and yes, you

2090
01:33:48,160 --> 01:33:51,439
Speaker 4: have a female listener in New Jersey exclamation point. Anyway,

2091
01:33:51,479 --> 01:33:53,840
Speaker 4: I saw the attached license plate and thought of you guys.

2092
01:33:54,120 --> 01:33:57,160
Speaker 4: I listened to nearly every podcast while I review my

2093
01:33:57,240 --> 01:34:00,960
Speaker 4: team's casework. I'm a forensic scientist, so thank you for

2094
01:34:01,120 --> 01:34:04,000
Speaker 4: all the great content. It's Courtney. Oh wow, look at

2095
01:34:04,040 --> 01:34:05,160
Speaker 4: that don right there?

2096
01:34:05,640 --> 01:34:05,880
Speaker 3: BC.

2097
01:34:06,120 --> 01:34:10,640
Speaker 2: Want to be a Baula shot kaula twenty inch blades

2098
01:34:10,760 --> 01:34:11,800
Speaker 2: on the impaula.

2099
01:34:12,560 --> 01:34:14,519
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, Luke, who do you think do

2100
01:34:14,640 --> 01:34:17,200
Speaker 4: you think the person that drives that Donker knows of us,

2101
01:34:17,320 --> 01:34:19,600
Speaker 4: has heard of us? No?

2102
01:34:19,880 --> 01:34:25,240
Speaker 3: Right, no, probably not? What there? Maybe they're Dutch? I

2103
01:34:25,280 --> 01:34:25,560
Speaker 3: don't know.

2104
01:34:26,120 --> 01:34:27,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's tough tough to tell. What do you think

2105
01:34:27,840 --> 01:34:30,879
Speaker 4: of our female listener Courtney here, Luke, you know, exposing

2106
01:34:30,920 --> 01:34:32,800
Speaker 4: herself saying, hey, there's one of me out in the

2107
01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:33,799
Speaker 4: wild here Indrid.

2108
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,160
Speaker 2: She's a forensic scientist. Yeah yeah, keep her away from

2109
01:34:37,160 --> 01:34:39,240
Speaker 2: the Mulka studio. She's gonna find every crime.

2110
01:34:39,320 --> 01:34:41,120
Speaker 4: Well, I was gonna say, we may be able to

2111
01:34:41,240 --> 01:34:43,840
Speaker 4: use her after one of our listeners removes your organs, Luke,

2112
01:34:43,920 --> 01:34:46,320
Speaker 4: to try to trace the path the breadcrumbs.

2113
01:34:46,520 --> 01:34:47,080
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly.

2114
01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:47,439
Speaker 5: Yeah.

2115
01:34:47,520 --> 01:34:50,080
Speaker 2: Once once my organs, once my kidneys get stolen, we'll

2116
01:34:50,120 --> 01:34:51,800
Speaker 2: call up Courtney to come solve the crime.

2117
01:34:52,120 --> 01:34:55,559
Speaker 4: All right. Speaking of female listeners, Hey, Luke and BC,

2118
01:34:56,080 --> 01:34:58,439
Speaker 4: my name is Melanie and I'm one of the mythical

2119
01:34:58,560 --> 01:35:02,800
Speaker 4: female viewers of yours og. As in pre MKOG, I've

2120
01:35:02,840 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 4: been a fan of Luke, specifically as I was watching

2121
01:35:04,840 --> 01:35:07,680
Speaker 4: the MMA hour way before he became a host and

2122
01:35:07,760 --> 01:35:10,720
Speaker 4: got into the great fight technique videos he'd do on

2123
01:35:10,800 --> 01:35:13,719
Speaker 4: his own channel back in twenty eighteen. I even doodled

2124
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,080
Speaker 4: a quick sketch of Luke as I was watching his

2125
01:35:16,160 --> 01:35:20,000
Speaker 4: belatour two six postfight special at the Airport. I'll draw

2126
01:35:20,080 --> 01:35:22,760
Speaker 4: another and better piece of you guys eventually. But mk

2127
01:35:22,960 --> 01:35:25,840
Speaker 4: is the one podcast I consistently have listened to ever

2128
01:35:25,920 --> 01:35:28,639
Speaker 4: since its conception, and the only reason why I don't

2129
01:35:28,640 --> 01:35:31,240
Speaker 4: have any pieces of merch yet is because shipping to

2130
01:35:31,320 --> 01:35:34,679
Speaker 4: Denmark is still pricey as shit. Next sub I promised

2131
01:35:34,720 --> 01:35:37,000
Speaker 4: to have a piece, though I wanted to have to

2132
01:35:37,120 --> 01:35:39,639
Speaker 4: share something super cool as a casual fan getting into

2133
01:35:39,680 --> 01:35:41,800
Speaker 4: the space now more than ever. Last year I started

2134
01:35:41,880 --> 01:35:44,840
Speaker 4: dating a guy who trains consistently MMA and last month

2135
01:35:44,880 --> 01:35:47,120
Speaker 4: he was in the corner for an amateur fight here

2136
01:35:47,160 --> 01:35:50,080
Speaker 4: in Luxembourg. I was invited to come along and not

2137
01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:52,400
Speaker 4: just for a seat in the crowd, but behind the

2138
01:35:52,439 --> 01:35:54,960
Speaker 4: scenes to experience what the fighters did to get ready

2139
01:35:55,000 --> 01:35:57,200
Speaker 4: for their fights. It was extremely cool and I was

2140
01:35:57,280 --> 01:35:59,479
Speaker 4: permitted to go inside the cage earlier in the day.

2141
01:36:00,080 --> 01:36:05,639
Speaker 4: Best of all, our fighter Mico Raz won unanimously after

2142
01:36:05,760 --> 01:36:08,240
Speaker 4: going all three rounds. The promotion is fairly new and

2143
01:36:08,360 --> 01:36:12,680
Speaker 4: called Soco s O Ko Soco Fight Championship. They have

2144
01:36:12,760 --> 01:36:17,600
Speaker 4: amateur and pro fights. Thank you for the consistent, critical, informed,

2145
01:36:17,960 --> 01:36:22,080
Speaker 4: sometimes downright dumb content you produce, and you can write

2146
01:36:22,120 --> 01:36:26,280
Speaker 4: down one more female viewer to this minimal list. May

2147
01:36:26,280 --> 01:36:30,240
Speaker 4: all your games be loyal. It's Melanie. Wow, that was heartfelt, Luke.

2148
01:36:30,520 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 3: Pretty cool. So she's in Denmark? Huh yeah, can we

2149
01:36:33,400 --> 01:36:34,200
Speaker 3: see that artwork again?

2150
01:36:34,320 --> 01:36:35,840
Speaker 4: I didn't get a chance to really, uh.

2151
01:36:36,160 --> 01:36:39,720
Speaker 2: Attack, I've been doing this too fucking long, Jesus, first

2152
01:36:39,720 --> 01:36:42,639
Speaker 2: of all, honestly, first of all, first of all, that's

2153
01:36:42,640 --> 01:36:46,479
Speaker 2: pretty good, and it's just humbling that people have been

2154
01:36:46,520 --> 01:36:48,320
Speaker 2: doing this, To be quite honest with you, it's just

2155
01:36:48,479 --> 01:36:50,200
Speaker 2: it's it's never not cool.

2156
01:36:50,040 --> 01:36:50,559
Speaker 3: You know what I mean?

2157
01:36:51,080 --> 01:36:53,080
Speaker 4: Dude, she just sat at an airport killing time and

2158
01:36:53,200 --> 01:36:55,479
Speaker 4: just free handed this, you know, while watching you break

2159
01:36:55,520 --> 01:36:57,840
Speaker 4: down Bellator. I mean, what a what a fan, Luke,

2160
01:36:58,000 --> 01:36:59,200
Speaker 4: what a real fan right here?

2161
01:36:59,320 --> 01:37:01,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, look at that. Man, I've been doing this a

2162
01:37:01,160 --> 01:37:04,120
Speaker 2: long time. That is that is incredible, It really is incredible.

2163
01:37:04,600 --> 01:37:07,000
Speaker 4: Can you flash through those pics real quick one more time, Michael,

2164
01:37:07,000 --> 01:37:08,519
Speaker 4: I was reading. I didn't get a chance to really

2165
01:37:08,600 --> 01:37:11,600
Speaker 4: check it out. There there's Surrey and there is the

2166
01:37:11,800 --> 01:37:14,360
Speaker 4: uh yeah in the corner. She got to play coach

2167
01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:19,200
Speaker 4: Lotri went along with her boyfriend there. Luke, well well done,

2168
01:37:19,280 --> 01:37:21,960
Speaker 4: well done. Appreciate you. Over across in Denmark, maybe one

2169
01:37:22,040 --> 01:37:24,519
Speaker 4: day we'll do a live show there with Michael Kessler,

2170
01:37:24,560 --> 01:37:25,160
Speaker 4: who knows.

2171
01:37:25,520 --> 01:37:26,880
Speaker 2: You know what you know what I know about those

2172
01:37:26,920 --> 01:37:30,840
Speaker 2: pictures of Denmark A lot of racial diversity, a lot.

2173
01:37:32,760 --> 01:37:34,920
Speaker 4: Anyway, let's go over to Andrew what's up, guys. I

2174
01:37:34,960 --> 01:37:37,479
Speaker 4: took my dad and brother to the PFL this past weekend.

2175
01:37:37,800 --> 01:37:40,560
Speaker 4: It was their first big MMA show as sons of

2176
01:37:40,720 --> 01:37:43,400
Speaker 4: Norwegian immigrants. It's very rare that we get to cheer

2177
01:37:43,439 --> 01:37:46,120
Speaker 4: for athletes from Norway, so my dad was so excited

2178
01:37:46,200 --> 01:37:49,560
Speaker 4: to see Martin Hamlet get the win. Overall, it was

2179
01:37:49,600 --> 01:37:51,800
Speaker 4: a great night of fights with a huge upset at

2180
01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:54,560
Speaker 4: the end that shocked the whole building. And while no,

2181
01:37:54,720 --> 01:37:56,680
Speaker 4: the smart Cage did not bring us drinks or call

2182
01:37:56,800 --> 01:38:00,800
Speaker 4: us an uber, does a really good job of giving

2183
01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,080
Speaker 4: you big fights while at the same time giving you

2184
01:38:03,200 --> 01:38:05,840
Speaker 4: that small regional feel. I'm not sure they want that feel,

2185
01:38:05,920 --> 01:38:08,559
Speaker 4: by the way, which I prefer as a twenty plus

2186
01:38:08,680 --> 01:38:11,200
Speaker 4: year fan of the sport. If you've never been to PFL,

2187
01:38:11,280 --> 01:38:13,479
Speaker 4: I highly recommend it. Keep up the gray beards and

2188
01:38:13,520 --> 01:38:17,799
Speaker 4: black livers MK all day, much love from Northwest Georgia.

2189
01:38:18,240 --> 01:38:20,640
Speaker 4: We know Luke still hates all of us down here.

2190
01:38:21,640 --> 01:38:23,920
Speaker 3: I don't hate these people. I like these all right.

2191
01:38:24,360 --> 01:38:26,360
Speaker 4: That's an OG shirt he's got on the far right there.

2192
01:38:27,240 --> 01:38:29,160
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's still one that was on I don't know

2193
01:38:29,160 --> 01:38:30,559
Speaker 2: if it's still on the Showtime website.

2194
01:38:30,640 --> 01:38:32,639
Speaker 3: It used to be it's still right.

2195
01:38:33,040 --> 01:38:34,720
Speaker 4: Yah, it still is. You can get our original one

2196
01:38:34,760 --> 01:38:37,040
Speaker 4: point zero merch on the Showtime Merch site for sure.

2197
01:38:37,680 --> 01:38:39,880
Speaker 4: His brother whoever in the middle of there, Luke has

2198
01:38:39,920 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 4: a nice Jason Halloween shirt on. But how about that

2199
01:38:42,840 --> 01:38:45,080
Speaker 4: Norwegian dad tucking in his shirt. He's still in good

2200
01:38:45,120 --> 01:38:45,599
Speaker 4: shape too.

2201
01:38:46,320 --> 01:38:48,559
Speaker 2: Yeah, old man has put it together there pretty nicely.

2202
01:38:48,680 --> 01:38:51,960
Speaker 2: I gotta say, I didn't know people. I didn't know

2203
01:38:52,000 --> 01:38:54,719
Speaker 2: pfl Dinigate, but there you go. People do actually attend

2204
01:38:54,760 --> 01:38:55,040
Speaker 2: the show.

2205
01:38:55,200 --> 01:38:58,080
Speaker 4: So do you think these three got so excited Luke

2206
01:38:58,120 --> 01:38:59,920
Speaker 4: that they experienced Norwegian wood?

2207
01:39:01,640 --> 01:39:06,680
Speaker 3: What is there such a thing as Norwegian wood as

2208
01:39:06,760 --> 01:39:07,360
Speaker 3: a phrase?

2209
01:39:08,080 --> 01:39:10,040
Speaker 4: Well, it's a you know, it's a famous Beatles song

2210
01:39:10,120 --> 01:39:11,920
Speaker 4: off of Rubber Soul. But I was comparing it to

2211
01:39:11,960 --> 01:39:14,360
Speaker 4: an erection, Luke. Okay, thank you, thank you very much.

2212
01:39:14,439 --> 01:39:16,880
Speaker 4: All Right, my comedy here is done. Let's go over

2213
01:39:16,960 --> 01:39:19,360
Speaker 4: to Todd. Hey, fellaws, would you guys agree that Big

2214
01:39:19,479 --> 01:39:22,720
Speaker 4: Dad Energy is a real thing and MK is a

2215
01:39:22,800 --> 01:39:26,160
Speaker 4: place where anyone can come get some Big Todd in

2216
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:26,960
Speaker 4: San Diego?

2217
01:39:27,360 --> 01:39:27,479
Speaker 3: Hi?

2218
01:39:28,320 --> 01:39:29,400
Speaker 4: Does he have another thing here?

2219
01:39:29,560 --> 01:39:29,680
Speaker 2: Oh?

2220
01:39:29,760 --> 01:39:32,400
Speaker 4: He's got another message? Hi, guys. Ever since I subscribed

2221
01:39:32,400 --> 01:39:35,320
Speaker 4: to the Hartford Current, I've been pretty amazed at how

2222
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,680
Speaker 4: much ink BC gets in the community. Where does he

2223
01:39:38,800 --> 01:39:40,840
Speaker 4: have the time? Why doesn't he involve Luke in these

2224
01:39:40,920 --> 01:39:44,640
Speaker 4: lucrative opportunities. It's Todd from San Diego, So Luke. He

2225
01:39:44,720 --> 01:39:48,200
Speaker 4: created a dummy version of the Hartford Current that says

2226
01:39:48,360 --> 01:39:53,240
Speaker 4: area man opens mma restaurant called the Smart Cage with

2227
01:39:53,320 --> 01:39:55,400
Speaker 4: a K. What else does that say? Can you see it?

2228
01:39:56,439 --> 01:39:59,400
Speaker 2: Brian Campbell's words quote A lot of men are sensitive

2229
01:39:59,400 --> 01:40:01,400
Speaker 2: about their mass sculinity these days, and I want to

2230
01:40:01,439 --> 01:40:03,439
Speaker 2: give back. So I came up with a restaurant using

2231
01:40:03,520 --> 01:40:06,760
Speaker 2: smart cage technology. When you enter, your funneled into a

2232
01:40:06,840 --> 01:40:09,360
Speaker 2: cage and the buffet is at the other opening. You

2233
01:40:09,479 --> 01:40:11,680
Speaker 2: have to fight your way through a gauntlet of other men,

2234
01:40:12,240 --> 01:40:14,920
Speaker 2: and the smart cage will evaluate your performance to determine

2235
01:40:14,960 --> 01:40:17,960
Speaker 2: the quality and quantity of food that you've earned.

2236
01:40:18,479 --> 01:40:21,040
Speaker 3: Wow, BC, you get to the.

2237
01:40:21,040 --> 01:40:22,760
Speaker 2: Other end and it would just be a plate full

2238
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:23,480
Speaker 2: of sausages.

2239
01:40:23,560 --> 01:40:26,719
Speaker 4: Huh, It says a factory town buffet. On the outside

2240
01:40:26,720 --> 01:40:28,680
Speaker 4: of the building. It's the Smart Cage with a K.

2241
01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,280
Speaker 4: Thank you to the Hartford Current. Can you go back?

2242
01:40:32,280 --> 01:40:33,880
Speaker 3: Go back real quick? It says something over the door,

2243
01:40:34,080 --> 01:40:35,760
Speaker 3: something welcome what's welcome there?

2244
01:40:37,320 --> 01:40:39,719
Speaker 4: I can't read that closely, Luke, I've lost the ability

2245
01:40:39,800 --> 01:40:41,679
Speaker 4: to read up close. It happens in life.

2246
01:40:41,760 --> 01:40:45,559
Speaker 2: Oh dude, my vision is absolutely feces.

2247
01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:48,800
Speaker 4: Day, like overnight, I lost it in the past six

2248
01:40:48,880 --> 01:40:50,840
Speaker 4: months overnight. One one day, I just woke up and

2249
01:40:50,840 --> 01:40:52,200
Speaker 4: I couldn't read labels anymore.

2250
01:40:53,160 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you're old, You're old BC.

2251
01:40:55,520 --> 01:40:57,840
Speaker 4: Yeah. And then what is this your This is your

2252
01:40:57,920 --> 01:40:58,759
Speaker 4: father's podcast.

2253
01:40:58,840 --> 01:41:00,439
Speaker 3: First of all, it looks like Appy. It looks like

2254
01:41:00,479 --> 01:41:02,200
Speaker 3: Appy all the way. On the left, let's be honest,

2255
01:41:03,400 --> 01:41:03,880
Speaker 3: that looks like.

2256
01:41:03,960 --> 01:41:05,479
Speaker 4: Big Cat from Barstool Sports.

2257
01:41:05,520 --> 01:41:08,519
Speaker 3: In the middle, it does, and I guess the right

2258
01:41:08,560 --> 01:41:10,479
Speaker 3: would be I don't know what does that look like?

2259
01:41:11,760 --> 01:41:13,920
Speaker 4: R J dunkle Maker a little bit.

2260
01:41:14,120 --> 01:41:16,320
Speaker 2: I'll just say this, if your dad in the eighties

2261
01:41:16,400 --> 01:41:19,679
Speaker 2: didn't have booty shorts, then you just you just weren't living.

2262
01:41:20,280 --> 01:41:22,519
Speaker 4: My dad used to get thrown out of water parks

2263
01:41:22,520 --> 01:41:24,960
Speaker 4: because the only bathing suit he had was a cut

2264
01:41:25,040 --> 01:41:27,599
Speaker 4: off of jeans that had like, you know, holes all

2265
01:41:27,680 --> 01:41:30,160
Speaker 4: over it and pure pure factory town style.

2266
01:41:31,200 --> 01:41:33,800
Speaker 3: Yeh, dude, water parks are kind of gross, are they?

2267
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:33,960
Speaker 2: Not?

2268
01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 4: There? I'll put up with all the bs that you

2269
01:41:37,720 --> 01:41:39,840
Speaker 4: have to go through, including getting your feet charred on

2270
01:41:40,000 --> 01:41:42,560
Speaker 4: that cement. You know, it's always like like cement that

2271
01:41:42,640 --> 01:41:44,559
Speaker 4: has like the little bubbles on it, and it rips

2272
01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:45,920
Speaker 4: your feet up. You know what I'm talking about, Luke.

2273
01:41:45,920 --> 01:41:48,400
Speaker 4: It looks like a popcorn ceiling, but it's like the

2274
01:41:48,520 --> 01:41:51,040
Speaker 4: ground they ripped. You gotta wear water shoes if you

2275
01:41:51,080 --> 01:41:51,439
Speaker 4: want to do.

2276
01:41:51,479 --> 01:41:54,280
Speaker 3: It right, but you wear aqua socks or flip flops

2277
01:41:54,360 --> 01:41:55,439
Speaker 3: or something. Yeah.

2278
01:41:55,600 --> 01:41:57,679
Speaker 2: Yeah, but then you're just bathing it out. You're bathing

2279
01:41:57,720 --> 01:41:59,040
Speaker 2: and everyone else's bald juice.

2280
01:41:59,040 --> 01:42:00,439
Speaker 3: I mean it really is pretty well.

2281
01:42:00,439 --> 01:42:03,559
Speaker 4: People like you just probably urinate in the wavepool all day.

2282
01:42:03,680 --> 01:42:07,880
Speaker 3: Luke, I can neither confirm nor deny these reports. Yeah,

2283
01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:08,760
Speaker 3: there you go, There you go.

2284
01:42:09,520 --> 01:42:12,200
Speaker 4: History HD is here. He says, I'm currently visiting my

2285
01:42:12,280 --> 01:42:15,719
Speaker 4: grandfather for his one hundredth birthday, and I stumbled across

2286
01:42:15,760 --> 01:42:19,160
Speaker 4: something you might appreciate. He went to this fight years

2287
01:42:19,200 --> 01:42:22,920
Speaker 4: ago and saved his ticket and fight poster. Thanks for

2288
01:42:23,000 --> 01:42:23,960
Speaker 4: all your hard work, are you?

2289
01:42:24,400 --> 01:42:28,320
Speaker 2: Was your grandfather? Thomas Jefferson? What kind of fucking holy shit?

2290
01:42:28,400 --> 01:42:31,000
Speaker 4: So his dad went to I think this is schmelling

2291
01:42:31,479 --> 01:42:34,599
Speaker 4: Joe Lewis versus Max smelling one right Yankee Stadium.

2292
01:42:36,800 --> 01:42:41,960
Speaker 3: Yes, let me let me check that out. I think so.

2293
01:42:45,880 --> 01:42:48,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm not able to find it as quickly as

2294
01:42:48,920 --> 01:42:51,479
Speaker 4: I thought. Luke, Anyway, that's great history. Wow. In the

2295
01:42:51,560 --> 01:42:54,280
Speaker 4: grand grand dude, Grandpa's one hundred he was at one

2296
01:42:54,320 --> 01:42:57,160
Speaker 4: of I mean, Luke, especially this rematch. I'm not sure

2297
01:42:57,200 --> 01:42:59,360
Speaker 4: if this was the rematch of the first one, but

2298
01:42:59,479 --> 01:43:02,040
Speaker 4: the rematch which was basically like World War Two inside

2299
01:43:02,080 --> 01:43:04,000
Speaker 4: of a ring. In terms of what it meant to people.

2300
01:43:06,439 --> 01:43:09,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this is a obviously a momentous Uh,

2301
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:15,280
Speaker 2: this is pretty big. This is a huge night in

2302
01:43:15,320 --> 01:43:17,080
Speaker 2: the history of boxing. I'm just saying, do we know

2303
01:43:17,160 --> 01:43:20,559
Speaker 2: what's authentic? U gets a really good condition?

2304
01:43:21,160 --> 01:43:23,599
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean history. HD wouldn't lie about his one

2305
01:43:23,640 --> 01:43:26,880
Speaker 4: hundred year old grandpa. But wow, that guy's got old balls,

2306
01:43:26,920 --> 01:43:28,760
Speaker 4: but he's got great stories, I'm sure, Luke.

2307
01:43:28,800 --> 01:43:31,200
Speaker 3: Can you imagine how saggy his balls are? I mean, oh.

2308
01:43:33,200 --> 01:43:35,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, It's like it's like it's like a half filled

2309
01:43:35,400 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 2: Halloween bag, you know.

2310
01:43:36,720 --> 01:43:38,640
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like you know, sometimes, Luke, you could wake up

2311
01:43:38,640 --> 01:43:40,040
Speaker 4: in the morning and be like, man, I got I

2312
01:43:40,120 --> 01:43:40,840
Speaker 4: got old balls?

2313
01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:41,240
Speaker 3: This guy?

2314
01:43:41,400 --> 01:43:41,760
Speaker 4: Oh wow.

2315
01:43:41,800 --> 01:43:44,400
Speaker 2: Again, the best description ever was from Doug Stanhope where

2316
01:43:44,400 --> 01:43:47,120
Speaker 2: he's like my ball sack, like the cheese when you're

2317
01:43:47,120 --> 01:43:48,559
Speaker 2: pulling the pizza away from the pie.

2318
01:43:48,720 --> 01:43:51,120
Speaker 4: Just that's too much. That's actually too much that that

2319
01:43:51,280 --> 01:43:54,000
Speaker 4: grossed me out right there. Thank you, Doug Stanhope. H

2320
01:43:54,080 --> 01:43:56,240
Speaker 4: he was great on The Man Show, Luke as a replacement,

2321
01:43:56,280 --> 01:43:58,360
Speaker 4: remember him and Rogan came in as like the bootleg

2322
01:43:58,760 --> 01:43:59,920
Speaker 4: saved by the Bell, the New Class.

2323
01:44:00,240 --> 01:44:01,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, they killed The Man Show, the both of them together,

2324
01:44:01,960 --> 01:44:04,760
Speaker 2: which they both fully admit. But what you got to

2325
01:44:04,800 --> 01:44:08,120
Speaker 2: understand is Duck stand helps like deadbeat Hero Special is

2326
01:44:08,200 --> 01:44:11,280
Speaker 2: one of the best ones I've ever heard. It's oh really, yeah,

2327
01:44:11,400 --> 01:44:12,400
Speaker 2: it's insanely good.

2328
01:44:12,880 --> 01:44:15,000
Speaker 4: I'll listen to it on your request. You got any

2329
01:44:15,000 --> 01:44:16,479
Speaker 4: other comedians that I should be listening to?

2330
01:44:17,560 --> 01:44:19,080
Speaker 3: I mean, how familiar are you with the catalog of

2331
01:44:19,120 --> 01:44:19,599
Speaker 3: Bill Hicks?

2332
01:44:20,800 --> 01:44:24,040
Speaker 4: Not familiar enough apparently, since my favorite comedian Dennis Larry

2333
01:44:24,080 --> 01:44:25,200
Speaker 4: Stalls jokes.

2334
01:44:25,000 --> 01:44:26,920
Speaker 3: Luke, Yeah, you should hear the original Bill Hicks. It's

2335
01:44:27,040 --> 01:44:28,400
Speaker 3: it's it's smarter and better.

2336
01:44:28,920 --> 01:44:31,519
Speaker 4: All right, let's hear from Bennett. Dear Luken BC, I

2337
01:44:31,600 --> 01:44:35,639
Speaker 4: was watching your most recent og rsd aka Skits and Bits,

2338
01:44:36,040 --> 01:44:38,000
Speaker 4: and I saw that the movie Dumb and Dumber was

2339
01:44:38,080 --> 01:44:42,160
Speaker 4: recommended as similar content. Clearly, the YouTube algorithm knows what

2340
01:44:42,280 --> 01:44:45,200
Speaker 4: it's doing. Keep it up, you washed sacks of shit.

2341
01:44:46,800 --> 01:44:52,720
Speaker 3: That's nice, all right? See what I mean?

2342
01:44:53,120 --> 01:44:55,960
Speaker 2: It's like they just our own audience just called us

2343
01:44:56,160 --> 01:44:58,000
Speaker 2: washed sacks of shit. Do I look upset about it?

2344
01:44:58,720 --> 01:45:01,040
Speaker 4: No, It's a culture you up in, luc This.

2345
01:45:01,200 --> 01:45:03,040
Speaker 3: Is this is, this is how we do things.

2346
01:45:03,960 --> 01:45:07,080
Speaker 4: Luke, you said an average Joe Art promised the big delivery,

2347
01:45:07,160 --> 01:45:10,720
Speaker 4: so here we go. I'm glad, he says, I'm glad

2348
01:45:10,760 --> 01:45:12,840
Speaker 4: you took last week of fan subs off because this

2349
01:45:12,960 --> 01:45:14,920
Speaker 4: one is a doozy. For a while now, I've been

2350
01:45:15,040 --> 01:45:18,840
Speaker 4: staring at the MK poster behind Brian meaning this one,

2351
01:45:19,160 --> 01:45:21,080
Speaker 4: and I've wanted to do my own version of the

2352
01:45:21,120 --> 01:45:23,080
Speaker 4: fight poster. But then it dawned on me. You guys

2353
01:45:23,120 --> 01:45:27,400
Speaker 4: are a team, a tag team, raining and defending. Since

2354
01:45:27,439 --> 01:45:30,760
Speaker 4: we already have the belt, why not lean into my

2355
01:45:31,000 --> 01:45:35,080
Speaker 4: love of old Luca lebre Art posters. I've been picking

2356
01:45:35,520 --> 01:45:37,880
Speaker 4: at this late at night for over two weeks, and

2357
01:45:37,960 --> 01:45:41,160
Speaker 4: I tried to include as many nods to MK lore

2358
01:45:41,320 --> 01:45:44,160
Speaker 4: as I could. Luke, if you could translate for Brian

2359
01:45:44,280 --> 01:45:48,000
Speaker 4: some of this sounded better in English, Okay.

2360
01:45:47,920 --> 01:45:53,280
Speaker 3: So I'm trying to take this all in. This is amazing.

2361
01:45:55,640 --> 01:46:00,640
Speaker 2: Uh wow, Okay, I don't quite unders stand some of

2362
01:46:00,720 --> 01:46:06,080
Speaker 2: the translations. So for example, I don't quite get movie

2363
01:46:06,160 --> 01:46:09,640
Speaker 2: Miento Finale, which would be like final movement. Oh oh,

2364
01:46:09,840 --> 01:46:12,200
Speaker 2: I guess that's your special move ya know what they

2365
01:46:12,240 --> 01:46:16,040
Speaker 2: call it? Like whatever they call that. Yeah, and so

2366
01:46:16,080 --> 01:46:18,600
Speaker 2: in my case, the commode Buster, which is fair and

2367
01:46:18,680 --> 01:46:23,280
Speaker 2: then Catasamana like every week. Uh so, Lunez Miracle is Monday, Wednesday, Friday,

2368
01:46:23,320 --> 01:46:25,640
Speaker 2: so every every week Monday, Wenesday, Friday. The one that

2369
01:46:25,640 --> 01:46:31,400
Speaker 2: doesn't quite make much sense is the co combatae Matutino Matutino.

2370
01:46:31,439 --> 01:46:33,800
Speaker 2: I don't know at the endo like morning would be

2371
01:46:34,000 --> 01:46:38,200
Speaker 2: like more like Maniana. Yeah, so I don't quite get

2372
01:46:38,320 --> 01:46:41,800
Speaker 2: that one. But here's what I'll say that is fucking

2373
01:46:41,960 --> 01:46:44,400
Speaker 2: incredible detail.

2374
01:46:44,439 --> 01:46:46,800
Speaker 4: On the masks. You have the DC flag stars I

2375
01:46:46,880 --> 01:46:48,840
Speaker 4: believe on your form, yes.

2376
01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:52,639
Speaker 2: And you've got American Alpha because it's two a's broken

2377
01:46:52,720 --> 01:46:55,200
Speaker 2: up to make the star in the middle American Alpha

2378
01:46:55,320 --> 01:46:56,720
Speaker 2: with like the Captain America kind of.

2379
01:46:56,720 --> 01:46:57,200
Speaker 3: Feel to it.

2380
01:46:57,479 --> 01:47:01,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's dude, this is it, Sol says Luke's glasses

2381
01:47:02,000 --> 01:47:03,880
Speaker 2: are built into the bike. He says, The glasses are

2382
01:47:03,920 --> 01:47:05,840
Speaker 2: built into the mask. If you, oh, look at the

2383
01:47:05,920 --> 01:47:10,559
Speaker 2: eye shape. Yeah, and the a's are on VC are

2384
01:47:10,600 --> 01:47:11,519
Speaker 2: going tip to tip.

2385
01:47:12,479 --> 01:47:17,120
Speaker 3: Oh they are. That's fucking dude. This is next level.

2386
01:47:17,800 --> 01:47:20,880
Speaker 4: So here's what average Joe says about it. He says,

2387
01:47:20,960 --> 01:47:25,240
Speaker 4: your famous locations beige skin color both the EAG and DC.

2388
01:47:25,760 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 4: Look around the eyes of Luke. For the Eagle, Brian's

2389
01:47:28,560 --> 01:47:30,560
Speaker 4: double A go's tip to tip on his forehead, the

2390
01:47:30,600 --> 01:47:32,839
Speaker 4: cutouts around Luke's eyes and the shape of the glasses

2391
01:47:33,080 --> 01:47:35,880
Speaker 4: VC's famous gas station hot dog. The color of Luke's

2392
01:47:35,960 --> 01:47:40,360
Speaker 4: mask nods to missus, Miss Thomas's native flag. Is that true,

2393
01:47:40,439 --> 01:47:41,839
Speaker 4: Luke mis Thomas?

2394
01:47:42,200 --> 01:47:43,400
Speaker 3: What does he say about her flag?

2395
01:47:43,840 --> 01:47:46,120
Speaker 4: He's saying the color of the mask is a nod

2396
01:47:46,240 --> 01:47:48,040
Speaker 4: to Miss Thomas's native flame.

2397
01:47:48,160 --> 01:47:50,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, so the Bolvarian flag would be of all like

2398
01:47:50,400 --> 01:47:54,200
Speaker 2: so you see with Venezuela, Ecuador in Columbia it's it's yellow,

2399
01:47:54,680 --> 01:47:55,439
Speaker 2: blue and red.

2400
01:47:56,200 --> 01:47:57,200
Speaker 3: Wow, he said.

2401
01:47:57,240 --> 01:47:59,920
Speaker 4: I've also included an updated version of the super washed

2402
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:01,960
Speaker 4: at artwork now that I was able to add in

2403
01:48:02,080 --> 01:48:07,960
Speaker 4: Luke's tattoo to finish it all. I have no doubt

2404
01:48:08,800 --> 01:48:10,800
Speaker 4: that we will find a way to turn these into

2405
01:48:10,960 --> 01:48:13,560
Speaker 4: really and turn this into reality at some point. But

2406
01:48:13,640 --> 01:48:16,280
Speaker 4: in the meantime, maybe I'm coming for that prestigious Donk

2407
01:48:16,400 --> 01:48:19,759
Speaker 4: of the Year award. I hope you've enjoyed my subs

2408
01:48:19,760 --> 01:48:21,599
Speaker 4: over the past few weeks, and I'm not done yet.

2409
01:48:21,840 --> 01:48:26,480
Speaker 4: I encourage other fans. Whatever your talent is, illustration, photography,

2410
01:48:26,800 --> 01:48:31,280
Speaker 4: edits extremely long videos. Just create something and don't be

2411
01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:34,400
Speaker 4: sensitive if you get roasted. That's part of the show.

2412
01:48:34,760 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 4: So look, this is pretty big.

2413
01:48:36,520 --> 01:48:38,559
Speaker 3: Not only one more time, one more time.

2414
01:48:38,760 --> 01:48:42,240
Speaker 2: Show the poster if you can, Mikey the post, not

2415
01:48:42,360 --> 01:48:45,759
Speaker 2: this one, the original one, the Lucha Libre one. Also

2416
01:48:46,040 --> 01:48:48,840
Speaker 2: see also be Ce look under the three Stars. It's

2417
01:48:48,920 --> 01:48:53,200
Speaker 2: the anchor of the Marine Corps logo, the eglegob anchor

2418
01:48:53,479 --> 01:48:53,880
Speaker 2: as well.

2419
01:48:54,800 --> 01:48:58,160
Speaker 4: So what do you think about average Joe Art announcing

2420
01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:02,799
Speaker 4: himself making an open bid as a as a nominee

2421
01:49:03,040 --> 01:49:05,160
Speaker 4: for twenty twenty three MK don.

2422
01:49:05,439 --> 01:49:08,360
Speaker 3: How is he not the number one contender? If it's

2423
01:49:08,439 --> 01:49:09,519
Speaker 3: not him, who would it be.

2424
01:49:10,080 --> 01:49:12,640
Speaker 4: There's a big moment. There's a big moment right here.

2425
01:49:13,200 --> 01:49:14,960
Speaker 2: I don't know exactly how you gotta understand folks.

2426
01:49:15,000 --> 01:49:18,200
Speaker 4: We're in a bit of a transitional.

2427
01:49:17,720 --> 01:49:22,479
Speaker 2: Unique yeah, unique situation at the moment eternally internally, and

2428
01:49:22,640 --> 01:49:24,640
Speaker 2: so there's a lot of things that could go in

2429
01:49:24,680 --> 01:49:25,719
Speaker 2: a lot of different directions.

2430
01:49:25,800 --> 01:49:26,519
Speaker 3: We just don't know yet.

2431
01:49:26,520 --> 01:49:28,200
Speaker 2: We're in a bit of a holding patterns, I guess

2432
01:49:28,240 --> 01:49:29,320
Speaker 2: the best way I could say that.

2433
01:49:30,400 --> 01:49:32,040
Speaker 3: But one way or the other.

2434
01:49:32,439 --> 01:49:34,600
Speaker 2: Let me just make this very clear. One way or

2435
01:49:34,680 --> 01:49:36,240
Speaker 2: the other, We're going to find a way to get

2436
01:49:36,280 --> 01:49:39,680
Speaker 2: that stuff sold and we should know a little bit

2437
01:49:39,760 --> 01:49:43,040
Speaker 2: more relatively soon ish, So just be a little patient

2438
01:49:43,120 --> 01:49:45,320
Speaker 2: with us. But I am going to find a way

2439
01:49:45,360 --> 01:49:47,080
Speaker 2: to make sure that that stuff gets sold because then.

2440
01:49:47,120 --> 01:49:49,280
Speaker 4: Well I have talked to r J Luke and he

2441
01:49:49,439 --> 01:49:50,599
Speaker 4: wants to work with this guy.

2442
01:49:51,640 --> 01:49:52,080
Speaker 3: Is that right?

2443
01:49:52,479 --> 01:49:52,679
Speaker 4: Yeah?

2444
01:49:52,720 --> 01:49:53,280
Speaker 7: I have.

2445
01:49:53,439 --> 01:49:55,360
Speaker 4: I have received that information that if we can get

2446
01:49:55,479 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 4: RJ back in the mix, which is being talked about,

2447
01:49:57,720 --> 01:49:59,560
Speaker 4: that this could be some collabs going on.

2448
01:49:59,680 --> 01:50:02,200
Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, Well, I mean I just got to say,

2449
01:50:02,760 --> 01:50:04,719
Speaker 2: he is bringing it in a way that I didn't

2450
01:50:04,760 --> 01:50:10,080
Speaker 2: know it could be brought. Wow, redefining what it means

2451
01:50:10,160 --> 01:50:12,799
Speaker 2: to be a fan, sub redefine game changer.

2452
01:50:13,439 --> 01:50:15,439
Speaker 4: Wow. And he had an editorial out there too to

2453
01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:17,479
Speaker 4: encourage others to get in. We've got one more fans

2454
01:50:17,520 --> 01:50:19,360
Speaker 4: of from a guy who was a finalist last year

2455
01:50:19,439 --> 01:50:21,160
Speaker 4: for DNK of the Year. I had left him off

2456
01:50:21,200 --> 01:50:24,080
Speaker 4: the ballot and Mikey was like, don't you dare? Alan

2457
01:50:24,600 --> 01:50:26,479
Speaker 4: w says, the more and more I think about it,

2458
01:50:26,920 --> 01:50:29,320
Speaker 4: the more and more I feel frances Andngan, who's boxing

2459
01:50:29,439 --> 01:50:32,760
Speaker 4: success seems to shrink. He's the most powerful puncher in

2460
01:50:32,880 --> 01:50:35,680
Speaker 4: MMA history. But how much does his power change with

2461
01:50:35,760 --> 01:50:38,320
Speaker 4: twelve on gloves? Many people seem to rely on his

2462
01:50:38,439 --> 01:50:41,519
Speaker 4: success of the power with the MMA gloves and his

2463
01:50:41,720 --> 01:50:45,519
Speaker 4: measured power against stationary apparatuses. But would he even be

2464
01:50:45,600 --> 01:50:48,040
Speaker 4: on the same level as Ernie Shavers or George Foreman

2465
01:50:48,320 --> 01:50:52,120
Speaker 4: with gloves on? Even as dangerous fringe contenders like ron

2466
01:50:52,200 --> 01:50:55,160
Speaker 4: Lyle Heck? Is he as dangerous in terms of power

2467
01:50:55,280 --> 01:50:58,560
Speaker 4: as Luis Ortiz who while they're fought twice, Maybe you

2468
01:50:58,640 --> 01:51:01,000
Speaker 4: two can prove me wrong. But here's a fan subposter

2469
01:51:01,600 --> 01:51:03,800
Speaker 4: for the hype Dude. That's a great poster right there.

2470
01:51:04,560 --> 01:51:07,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's not bad actually though, and Gone who looks

2471
01:51:07,400 --> 01:51:10,120
Speaker 2: a little bit off balance, But and it's a fight

2472
01:51:10,240 --> 01:51:12,360
Speaker 2: on a Sunday, which you know probably just wouldn't happen,

2473
01:51:12,479 --> 01:51:14,040
Speaker 2: but bombs away.

2474
01:51:14,520 --> 01:51:15,920
Speaker 3: I gotta tell you, we've said it before.

2475
01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:19,280
Speaker 2: Of all the permutations that they could do with crossover fights,

2476
01:51:20,000 --> 01:51:22,800
Speaker 2: this one makes the most sense more than any other

2477
01:51:22,920 --> 01:51:24,599
Speaker 2: one by a wide margin.

2478
01:51:25,080 --> 01:51:28,000
Speaker 4: Do you share his concern, Luke that look, it's BKFC

2479
01:51:28,240 --> 01:51:30,640
Speaker 4: is a different style of punching because you don't have

2480
01:51:30,720 --> 01:51:33,479
Speaker 4: gloves on. But the difference between four on simm a

2481
01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:36,960
Speaker 4: gloves and eight or ten ounce boxing gloves depending on

2482
01:51:37,000 --> 01:51:39,600
Speaker 4: the way class. Is he onto something here? I mean, like,

2483
01:51:39,680 --> 01:51:42,640
Speaker 4: look one thing about the Connor fight against Floyd, he

2484
01:51:42,720 --> 01:51:44,360
Speaker 4: didn't have power he I mean, he hit that upper

2485
01:51:44,360 --> 01:51:47,280
Speaker 4: cutting round one right on Floyd's Adam Adam Zappolo did nothing.

2486
01:51:47,600 --> 01:51:52,120
Speaker 4: So is he right that Francis's power might not translate

2487
01:51:52,240 --> 01:51:55,479
Speaker 4: directly to a ten ounce glove? Luke, I don't know.

2488
01:51:55,840 --> 01:51:56,280
Speaker 3: Possible.

2489
01:51:56,560 --> 01:51:58,920
Speaker 2: I think unlikely, but definitely it's a little bit more

2490
01:51:58,920 --> 01:52:01,040
Speaker 2: of a concern when you're talking to guys at one

2491
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 2: fifty that kind of thing, when they're you know, two

2492
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:08,240
Speaker 2: sixty five or two forty. I don't think it's quite

2493
01:52:08,320 --> 01:52:10,679
Speaker 2: as present. But like, could he keep up that punching

2494
01:52:10,720 --> 01:52:13,639
Speaker 2: power around over round over round? Is another question. That's

2495
01:52:13,760 --> 01:52:16,880
Speaker 2: very very different than uh, just the weight of carrying

2496
01:52:16,880 --> 01:52:19,160
Speaker 2: the gloves. People don't realize people who've never even like

2497
01:52:19,280 --> 01:52:21,160
Speaker 2: lift them up and realized, like, it takes time to.

2498
01:52:21,200 --> 01:52:23,200
Speaker 3: Get used to the weight. At the end of your hands.

2499
01:52:23,520 --> 01:52:25,960
Speaker 2: Your shoulders get really tired, your back gets really tired,

2500
01:52:26,040 --> 01:52:28,519
Speaker 2: your you know, you have to your literally it's just

2501
01:52:28,680 --> 01:52:30,760
Speaker 2: you have weights. If they fill up with sweat too.

2502
01:52:30,800 --> 01:52:33,240
Speaker 2: By the end of a practice, folks will realize you've

2503
01:52:33,240 --> 01:52:35,519
Speaker 2: got two of these weights at the end of the lever,

2504
01:52:36,760 --> 01:52:38,720
Speaker 2: and so it becomes kind of heavy to kind of

2505
01:52:38,760 --> 01:52:40,760
Speaker 2: hold them up. That's why guys, over time it's like

2506
01:52:40,800 --> 01:52:42,479
Speaker 2: it's not so easy to keep them up the whull time.

2507
01:52:42,560 --> 01:52:44,160
Speaker 3: So no, you never know, you never know.

2508
01:52:44,760 --> 01:52:47,040
Speaker 4: Alan w has two more submissions. One he says, I

2509
01:52:47,160 --> 01:52:50,160
Speaker 4: know someday BC would like to make Luke humble, rip

2510
01:52:50,400 --> 01:52:56,839
Speaker 4: iron chic and ps. The k fayya adorned here is secular?

2511
01:52:57,160 --> 01:52:59,439
Speaker 4: Is that pronounced cafe a? What is that thing called?

2512
01:53:00,200 --> 01:53:02,320
Speaker 3: I think it's the Kafia?

2513
01:53:02,560 --> 01:53:05,040
Speaker 4: Yes, And here's what it says on the picture of

2514
01:53:05,120 --> 01:53:07,360
Speaker 4: me dressed as the iron cheek. This is amazing you

2515
01:53:07,520 --> 01:53:09,920
Speaker 4: damn Jabronie. I'll put you in the camel clutch, break

2516
01:53:10,000 --> 01:53:12,759
Speaker 4: your back, f your a and make you humble.

2517
01:53:13,000 --> 01:53:16,360
Speaker 2: I think that yeah, he's gonna. Does that mean you're gonna?

2518
01:53:17,120 --> 01:53:19,280
Speaker 2: You know, it's always weird when a guy like threatens

2519
01:53:19,320 --> 01:53:20,040
Speaker 2: you with sodomy.

2520
01:53:20,280 --> 01:53:22,559
Speaker 3: You know you know that the iron.

2521
01:53:22,400 --> 01:53:24,479
Speaker 4: Cheeks calling card, Luke. But if I do get you

2522
01:53:24,560 --> 01:53:27,360
Speaker 4: in that rear naked choke, you've underestimated my grip strength.

2523
01:53:27,680 --> 01:53:28,400
Speaker 4: Many are you going to?

2524
01:53:28,600 --> 01:53:30,280
Speaker 3: Are you gonna sodomize me if you get me in

2525
01:53:30,360 --> 01:53:32,120
Speaker 3: the rear naked silk griff?

2526
01:53:33,400 --> 01:53:35,639
Speaker 4: Finally, Luke, he says, I know of no other fan

2527
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,759
Speaker 4: base in the combat podcasting community that is as loyal

2528
01:53:39,000 --> 01:53:42,280
Speaker 4: as MK Dunktum. When MK reaches over two fifty k,

2529
01:53:42,520 --> 01:53:45,360
Speaker 4: hopefully you guys would consider doing some live event broadcasts

2530
01:53:45,600 --> 01:53:49,240
Speaker 4: in some small theaters nationally so the dunk Dunks can

2531
01:53:49,320 --> 01:53:52,720
Speaker 4: shove more money in your pockets and make Luke uncomfortable

2532
01:53:53,000 --> 01:53:57,200
Speaker 4: with our debauchery. Here's some promotional material for your coming

2533
01:53:57,439 --> 01:54:01,439
Speaker 4: out world tour. Sorry, coming on coming on world tour.

2534
01:54:02,120 --> 01:54:04,200
Speaker 2: Well, you know what, Jay is here in spirit, even

2535
01:54:04,240 --> 01:54:10,240
Speaker 2: if he's not here in practice. Morning Combat presents Bang donks.

2536
01:54:10,280 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know what's wrong with this.

2537
01:54:12,320 --> 01:54:16,320
Speaker 4: Everything about this, besides the fact that we're offering sex

2538
01:54:16,400 --> 01:54:18,120
Speaker 4: on a bus to all of our male viewers and

2539
01:54:18,160 --> 01:54:20,080
Speaker 4: that Chewbacca's involved, maybe that's part of it.

2540
01:54:20,160 --> 01:54:22,920
Speaker 3: Listen, that's just part of the fun. I just got

2541
01:54:23,080 --> 01:54:23,320
Speaker 3: to say.

2542
01:54:23,439 --> 01:54:26,120
Speaker 2: Everything about this is great, and you driving that bus,

2543
01:54:26,200 --> 01:54:28,760
Speaker 2: by the way, is kind of perfect as well.

2544
01:54:28,840 --> 01:54:31,160
Speaker 3: Long lived Chewbacca, and long live this one.

2545
01:54:31,280 --> 01:54:33,720
Speaker 4: This is ten out of ten, Hey, top shelf work

2546
01:54:33,720 --> 01:54:36,320
Speaker 4: from Allen w Average all of our other donks. We

2547
01:54:36,400 --> 01:54:40,000
Speaker 4: appreciate you. Morningcombat at gmail dot com. Is the email

2548
01:54:40,040 --> 01:54:42,600
Speaker 4: address a tight race for me? I hope our old

2549
01:54:42,920 --> 01:54:44,480
Speaker 4: donks of the year know that they're welcome back.

2550
01:54:44,560 --> 01:54:44,760
Speaker 3: Luke.

2551
01:54:44,800 --> 01:54:46,960
Speaker 4: I'd love to hear have Webscream on the regular. I'd

2552
01:54:46,960 --> 01:54:50,480
Speaker 4: love Damien the donk if he's not incarcerated, to reveal himself.

2553
01:54:50,600 --> 01:54:55,640
Speaker 3: Luke. Right, I would say, the more the merrier, Right,

2554
01:54:56,000 --> 01:54:56,920
Speaker 3: You're never too old.

2555
01:54:57,280 --> 01:54:59,520
Speaker 4: Mikey wants us to do wellness checks on these people

2556
01:55:00,240 --> 01:55:02,240
Speaker 4: I talked to. I talked to Webscream all the time.

2557
01:55:02,240 --> 01:55:04,240
Speaker 4: He's doing great in life. He's a fantastic It was

2558
01:55:04,240 --> 01:55:05,320
Speaker 4: the last time you spoke to Jay.

2559
01:55:05,440 --> 01:55:06,360
Speaker 3: Jay. Jay is better.

2560
01:55:06,600 --> 01:55:09,280
Speaker 4: He's better, Jay Pakeett, No, I talked to him the

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01:55:09,320 --> 01:55:11,240
Speaker 4: other day on Father's Day. Heed. He reached out and

2562
01:55:11,280 --> 01:55:13,560
Speaker 4: gave me a nice message. Hey, great guy, great guy. Okay,

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01:55:13,680 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 4: sometimes separate the theater of MK from real life. Great guy,

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01:55:16,800 --> 01:55:17,280
Speaker 4: have met them.

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01:55:17,680 --> 01:55:19,600
Speaker 3: It's just jokes. It's just jokes.

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01:55:19,600 --> 01:55:20,320
Speaker 4: It's just joke.

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01:55:20,840 --> 01:55:23,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's remind everyone, BC, you and I will be

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01:55:23,480 --> 01:55:26,560
Speaker 2: together in studio on Saturday for Showtime Championship Boxing and

2569
01:55:26,640 --> 01:55:29,400
Speaker 2: looking forward to that, and we'll be shooting some stuff

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01:55:29,400 --> 01:55:31,960
Speaker 2: there as well for some future editions of some of

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01:55:32,040 --> 01:55:34,840
Speaker 2: our favorite series. So that should be fun too. Friday,

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01:55:34,880 --> 01:55:36,200
Speaker 2: we'll have a show for it. We'll do okay, bet

2573
01:55:36,240 --> 01:55:38,000
Speaker 2: we'll get you ready for the weekend and everything else.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah.

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01:55:40,360 --> 01:55:43,000
Speaker 2: By the way, BC, June a bit of a quiet month.

2576
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:45,480
Speaker 2: July is going to be a banger. July is gonna

2577
01:55:45,480 --> 01:55:48,320
Speaker 2: be a bang fest. It's gonna be awesome, tons of

2578
01:55:48,400 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 2: great fights. I can't even say it enough. Two ninety

2579
01:55:51,000 --> 01:55:53,360
Speaker 2: one and Spence Crawford on the same day as an

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01:55:53,440 --> 01:55:55,960
Speaker 2: all timer. An all timer is thatver there was one,

2581
01:55:56,240 --> 01:55:57,360
Speaker 2: and it's going to be so good.

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01:55:57,520 --> 01:55:59,520
Speaker 4: Bella Tour has a big card that same day as

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01:55:59,600 --> 01:56:02,520
Speaker 4: well or earlier. So July twenty ninth is going to

2584
01:56:02,560 --> 01:56:03,800
Speaker 4: be something special. Luke.

2585
01:56:04,400 --> 01:56:06,360
Speaker 3: All right, that is it for us today.

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01:56:06,440 --> 01:56:08,520
Speaker 2: So reminder, showtime dot Com is the lebel that pays

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Speaker 2: Showtime dot Com thirty today free trophy like and you

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01:56:10,400 --> 01:56:10,760
Speaker 2: can keep it.

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01:56:10,760 --> 01:56:13,000
Speaker 3: If not, you may bounce, let's see.

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Speaker 2: On top of that, we have the merch Morningcombat dot

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Speaker 2: Store if you want to get involved in that, the

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Speaker 2: email to show Morningcombat at gmail dot com, and of

2593
01:56:21,120 --> 01:56:22,640
Speaker 2: course you can follow us on all the social stuff

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Speaker 2: Morning Combat basically everywhere you want to go. That is

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Speaker 2: Brian Campbell. I'm Louke Thomas. Thanks to Mikey more Mile

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Speaker 2: on the ones and twos. We appreciate him. We are

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Speaker 2: done for the day. We'll see you guys on Friday,

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Speaker 2: and until then, may all of your gains be loyal.