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Speaker 1: On the Dog Cast, the questions asked if movies have

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Speaker 1: women in them, are all their discussions just boyfriends and husbands,

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Speaker 1: or do they have individualism the patriarchy? Zef and Best

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Speaker 1: start changing it with the beck Del Cast. Hi, Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the beck Del Cast. My name is Jamie, my

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Speaker 1: name is Caitlin, and this is our movie podcast about

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Speaker 1: the girls, the girls, for the girls. Women. We're not

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Speaker 1: girls were women were sorry and neither was not anyone.

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Speaker 1: There's no girls where you're born grown up adult with

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Speaker 1: a woman child, just like Boss? Baby? Who's that movie?

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Speaker 1: Just like Baby? I don't know, I you know? Who?

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Speaker 1: Is it? For eating a cheeseburger Today? You're reaching a

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Speaker 1: cheeseburg in lieu of a Mike's Hard lemonade. Yeah, I'm

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Speaker 1: I'm making some changes in my life. Follow your heart. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it's like a tangential change, but it's a change. It

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Speaker 1: changes the change. Our podcast is about the portrayal of

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Speaker 1: women in film. It's it's by by the Bechdel Tests.

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Speaker 1: It's a test that requires that two women in a movie,

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Speaker 1: they have to talk to each other and it has

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Speaker 1: to be about something other than a man. We prefer

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Speaker 1: that they have names but sometimes we'll give them a pass. Hey,

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Speaker 1: there is that. I didn't get to see it. It's

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Speaker 1: gone now, but fun Home was in town. It's connected

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Speaker 1: to the Bechdel Test because it's based on a graphic novel,

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Speaker 1: a musical version of that. I didn't know that it

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Speaker 1: was as well. I want to ask our guests about

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Speaker 1: it because she got to see it. Um our guest today.

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Speaker 1: She is Buttercup on Powerpuff Girls. She is in everything

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Speaker 1: that UCB does. Ever, Natalie Pelamide, has it gone? Thanks

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Speaker 1: so much for having me wait here? Did you love

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Speaker 1: fun Home? Oh my god, I freaking love fun I

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Speaker 1: cried the last twenty minutes of it. It's just so moving,

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Speaker 1: it's really funny. The music is really great and powerful.

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Speaker 1: It gives you goose bumps. Just a good story. It's

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Speaker 1: the you know, it's the true story about Alison Ptel's

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Speaker 1: life and her relationship with her father who was closeted,

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Speaker 1: and then you know, it's her story about coming out

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Speaker 1: as well and how they deal with that together. But

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Speaker 1: it's just, oh my god, it's I've listened to the

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Speaker 1: album and I've read the book, but I haven't gotten

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Speaker 1: to see you yet. I should see it if you can.

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Speaker 1: I still haven't finished the one Alison Bechdel book I

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Speaker 1: have bought. I wish I remember what it was called.

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Speaker 1: It's not It's Your Mama a Llama, because that's a

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Speaker 1: different book, but it sounds like I don't think that

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Speaker 1: she wrote your Mama is a Lama. No, she definitely

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Speaker 1: did not. But that's what the title of this book

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Speaker 1: reminds me of. I went to uh there was like

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Speaker 1: and there's one called Runaway Pickle and it's about a

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Speaker 1: pickle that runs away. Recommendation of the cast I would

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Speaker 1: like to formally endorse a book. I'm pretty sure it's

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Speaker 1: called Runaway Pickle. Well, hey, you at the or if

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Speaker 1: you want to read that book you showed, you should

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Speaker 1: also read Are You My Mother, which is the name

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Speaker 1: of the Alice in Becktel book, not Is Your Mama

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Speaker 1: a Lama? Kail And I'm going to really try to

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Speaker 1: Thank you all right, Clara Stuttles really disgusted because he

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Speaker 1: they're eating beef in his presence because Air Stuttle is

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Speaker 1: a dirty, dirty vegan. I'm sorry for triggering everyone with

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Speaker 1: let's talk about the What a beautiful way to learn

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Speaker 1: Natalie is The sand Lot. Yes, it's a classic, a

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Speaker 1: When did you see The Sandlet for the first time, Jamie.

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Speaker 1: who's on their level to interact with and and and

422
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:12,040
Speaker 1: that is that is kind of where and even like

423
00:25:12,200 --> 00:25:16,440
Speaker 1: unusual for this kind of movie. Yeah, I mean, it's

424
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,840
Speaker 1: not even so much that I'm upset by the lack

425
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,480
Speaker 1: of women in the movie. All others certainly could be more.

426
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 1: It's just I suppose the way that they think about women,

427
00:25:28,320 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 1: Like I said, girls and women are used as an

428
00:25:30,920 --> 00:25:33,240
Speaker 1: insult every time. It's basically like we we think that

429
00:25:33,280 --> 00:25:37,760
Speaker 1: women are inherently bad and bad at sports and bad

430
00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 1: at throwing, and they are basically just lesser than us.

431
00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,240
Speaker 1: So we are going to use that as an opportunity

432
00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,879
Speaker 1: to insult each other by calling each other girls, or

433
00:25:47,960 --> 00:25:52,120
Speaker 1: by insinuating that you're being girlish if you were being

434
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,880
Speaker 1: weak or not good at baseball. What do you think

435
00:25:55,920 --> 00:26:04,920
Speaker 1: about Squints and Wendy Peffercorn getting together with and turns

436
00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,920
Speaker 1: in that relationship, like you right before the credits, it's

437
00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:15,160
Speaker 1: like Squints and Wendy had like so many kids together, Yeah,

438
00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,639
Speaker 1: could not stop. What do we think about that? Well, first,

439
00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:21,560
Speaker 1: she's like this powerful woman who like kicks his ass

440
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: out of the pool, you know, because he sexually assaults her.

441
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, right, oh yeah, yeah, he pulls her down

442
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:33,719
Speaker 1: like that's not good, and but that is true, Like

443
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,719
Speaker 1: it's never betrayed, like I you know, never even crossed

444
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:38,600
Speaker 1: my mind as an adult, like watching this movie. I

445
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:41,000
Speaker 1: watched it every year, you know, I said, never crossed

446
00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: my mind that, Like she's getting sexually assaulted. In my head,

447
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:49,560
Speaker 1: I'm like a goofy kid. It's like a fast one

448
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,640
Speaker 1: on her, you know, yeah, I mean the voiceover from

449
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,000
Speaker 1: older Scottie after that sequence, I was like, whoa this

450
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,880
Speaker 1: is it would have like it's still would have been

451
00:27:01,040 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: very strange to you know, because Squint's literally like pulls

452
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: this girl down and she's trying to do her job,

453
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:13,960
Speaker 1: and she's doing a good job, but she kicks them out,

454
00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:17,840
Speaker 1: and that is like, okay, good, you know, she stood

455
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:19,560
Speaker 1: up for herself and got these kids the funk out

456
00:27:19,560 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: of there. But then the voiceover kicks in and it

457
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: was like, man, now it's so fucking cool. What a

458
00:27:25,320 --> 00:27:30,120
Speaker 1: bold little kid, And like that was he was a hero.

459
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:33,119
Speaker 1: He kissed a girl and did a and then and

460
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:37,000
Speaker 1: then the part that like ruined Wendy Peppercorn for me

461
00:27:37,440 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 1: is when later it's like at every time he passed

462
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:42,679
Speaker 1: the pool, she would smile at him. I was like,

463
00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:46,199
Speaker 1: why what a little weird never happened. She'd be like,

464
00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: oh god, the kid. Yeah, I would have like a

465
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:51,879
Speaker 1: dark gun and like blow poisons darts at him. If

466
00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: I would love to see a dark gun. I might

467
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 1: get in trouble for saying this, but like it's just

468
00:27:58,400 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 1: like there's this fine line between like technically it's sexual assault,

469
00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 1: but then also he's like this stupid kid that just

470
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:08,560
Speaker 1: thinks like this is the way to like hit on

471
00:28:08,600 --> 00:28:11,399
Speaker 1: Wendy pepper Corn or like you know, the way it's

472
00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,720
Speaker 1: presented is like he's like, this is my one shot

473
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 1: to like make his move, you know what I mean,

474
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't even understand that like that would be

475
00:28:20,320 --> 00:28:23,359
Speaker 1: considered assault. Yeah, I mean in the movie, and I

476
00:28:23,400 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 1: think that the thing that bothered me more than the

477
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: fact that it actually happened was that the adult like

478
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: like like thirty years later is like that was cool,

479
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 1: like no regrets, you know, like that that was what

480
00:28:37,359 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: bothered me more. Yeah, we're like the narration like this,

481
00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 1: you know whatever, The omniscient smart guy says it's fine

482
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:54,920
Speaker 1: because he says what Squints did was sneaky, low rotten. Yeah, cool, right, Yeah,

483
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:59,320
Speaker 1: it's that's at least they like partially acknowledged that it

484
00:28:59,400 --> 00:29:03,720
Speaker 1: was like uns Yeah. And then after they've gotten kicked

485
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:05,760
Speaker 1: out of the pool and as they're walking away, Ham

486
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 1: is like did you plan that? And he's like, yeah,

487
00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: I've been putting it for a while and it's actually

488
00:29:13,920 --> 00:29:16,000
Speaker 1: trigger I want to break this down a little bit

489
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:18,720
Speaker 1: more because this scene was so alarming to me. But

490
00:29:19,280 --> 00:29:22,320
Speaker 1: before that happens, when we're introduced to Wendy Peppercorn for

491
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:27,120
Speaker 1: the first time. She's so heavily objectified. It's insane, like

492
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:33,240
Speaker 1: for like a fourteen year old girl, and she's she's young,

493
00:29:33,840 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: she's probably meant to be like sixteen, but even that's

494
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 1: still so the first time you meet her, she's walking

495
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 1: down the street and then there's a shot of just

496
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,160
Speaker 1: her butt like as she's walking. It's just like a

497
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: lingering male gaze shot of her ass. But that's what

498
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: they're trying to portray though, right, I mean, they're portraying

499
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,280
Speaker 1: like staring at her ass probably what I mean they're

500
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,480
Speaker 1: They're they're saying that Squints attracted her, yes, but doesn't

501
00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: need to be in such a sleazy way filmically, I think. Cinematically, yeah,

502
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: I think that comes back to the lack of challenging

503
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: anything where it's like you can have another shout out

504
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,840
Speaker 1: to headless Women in Hollywood one of my favorite blogs ever,

505
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 1: and that's like one of those classic things where it's like, oh,

506
00:30:19,040 --> 00:30:22,440
Speaker 1: it's you know, a woman's ass and we know nothing

507
00:30:22,440 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 1: about her except she's a lifeguard, and well it happens,

508
00:30:26,600 --> 00:30:28,840
Speaker 1: it happens again. You know, that's the dream of mine.

509
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 1: That's really all Squints knows about her too. She just

510
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,960
Speaker 1: has a crush from afar on this girl that he

511
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:39,400
Speaker 1: thinks is pretty, and really all he knows about her

512
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 1: is like her good looks. Sure, it is like that

513
00:30:42,960 --> 00:30:46,320
Speaker 1: shallow from the kid's perspective, I think that can still

514
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,640
Speaker 1: be communicated on screen without isolating a shot of just

515
00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:52,120
Speaker 1: her ass. And then it happens again when she's at

516
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,760
Speaker 1: the pool, you see just a shot of her breasts,

517
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: like that she's putting on sunscreen. So like there's still

518
00:30:58,320 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 1: ways to communicate that one cares attracted to another without

519
00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 1: like horribly objectifying them like that. Yes, but I think

520
00:31:05,320 --> 00:31:07,880
Speaker 1: part of like the thing that I think is funny

521
00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: is that he is just like so like like drooling

522
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,880
Speaker 1: over like her ass. It's kind of like things that

523
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: like guys do focus on, you know, and they're even

524
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:23,480
Speaker 1: like focus on my feet actually, you know, like they

525
00:31:23,520 --> 00:31:26,160
Speaker 1: are you know for me, I don't think it's like

526
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,880
Speaker 1: so absurd to like show from his perspective that that's

527
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:33,840
Speaker 1: like all he's focusing on, because that probably is like

528
00:31:33,880 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 1: what he's focusing on. Sure, I mean he's a horny

529
00:31:35,760 --> 00:31:40,080
Speaker 1: little boy who's reaching puberty. Yeah, yeah, he's the first one.

530
00:31:40,880 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: What do you would think of you Benny, but he's

531
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:50,080
Speaker 1: horny for the game. Yeah. I see what you're saying

532
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:53,360
Speaker 1: that it's like right to objectify women, but like that

533
00:31:53,560 --> 00:31:58,320
Speaker 1: is his perspective that they're portraying. I understand. It still

534
00:31:58,440 --> 00:32:02,160
Speaker 1: gross me out. I'm still like, yeah, and it probably wouldn't.

535
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 1: It didn't gross me out. Like the first time I

536
00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,000
Speaker 1: saw it, I didn't think anything of it, you know,

537
00:32:06,080 --> 00:32:09,160
Speaker 1: like ten years ago, but now I'm like, you know

538
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:11,440
Speaker 1: what that that porn that I thought was the sand

539
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:14,960
Speaker 1: Lot where that woman is getting tristed is less subjectifying

540
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 1: than this movie. Yeah, yeah, well yeah, I mean, especially

541
00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:22,520
Speaker 1: in a movie for little kids, that's that's a weird

542
00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,360
Speaker 1: precedent to be setting. And I mean, like I don't know,

543
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,040
Speaker 1: like kids are pretty sexual though, you know what I mean,

544
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: like they I mean I made my barbies have sex

545
00:32:33,280 --> 00:32:35,280
Speaker 1: with each other when I was like six years old.

546
00:32:35,720 --> 00:32:37,720
Speaker 1: I used to. I used to make my Hunchback of

547
00:32:37,800 --> 00:32:42,520
Speaker 1: Nu Puppets make out. Yeah, like I like made out

548
00:32:42,560 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: with my Ventriloquist dummy, you know, like you would have

549
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 1: been Trillo was dummy. Yeah. But like you know, I

550
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:53,880
Speaker 1: feel like people tend to forget that kids, like, even

551
00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 1: from a young age, are like sexual beings, you know,

552
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: in their own like innocent way, you know, like I

553
00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 1: was like banging my barbies together or whatever. But kids

554
00:33:03,400 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: still like have this like innate, like animalistic. But that's

555
00:33:07,760 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 1: kind of all the more reason to show them a

556
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: way of looking at people that isn't so I don't know,

557
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: like reductive. I don't know. Because also they're like poking

558
00:33:18,440 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 1: fun at Squints for like, he's like, so Google Gaga

559
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,200
Speaker 1: over this girl. Yeah, that's true to the point where

560
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:27,400
Speaker 1: he's willing to almost drown himself, which, by the way,

561
00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,280
Speaker 1: my favorite line in the movie. It's man expository dialogue

562
00:33:32,320 --> 00:33:34,160
Speaker 1: because he's about to like go jump in the pool

563
00:33:34,280 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: and someone's like, but that's that deep end and Squints

564
00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:43,680
Speaker 1: can't swim. It's like, cool, thanks for that, very like

565
00:33:44,480 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: but yeah, so then he jumps in the pool and

566
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:49,240
Speaker 1: he's like, I guess pretends to drown or also maybe

567
00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,840
Speaker 1: you can't swim. But then Wendy saves him and she's

568
00:33:51,840 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 1: performing CPR and him and like the second or third

569
00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:58,360
Speaker 1: time she goes to blow aaron to his lungs, he's like,

570
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: let's kitchen shing not how he talks now, but um,

571
00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:11,080
Speaker 1: but I love that boys never and then what also

572
00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:13,840
Speaker 1: bothered me after that she like I do like that.

573
00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: She's like, you little pervert, and she grabs him and

574
00:34:16,800 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 1: like yanks him and she kicks them all out of

575
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,560
Speaker 1: the pool. But then two seconds later, when they're like

576
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:24,000
Speaker 1: outside of the fence, he like kind of waves at

577
00:34:24,040 --> 00:34:26,279
Speaker 1: her and she just gives him this look like you

578
00:34:26,480 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: little rascal, and it's like he just forcibly kissed you

579
00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:34,120
Speaker 1: without your permission. It was just that was just a

580
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:37,320
Speaker 1: confusing to be of, Like she was just so mad

581
00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 1: and like pushed nine boys out simultaneously, and then like

582
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: a few minutes later, she's like, you know what, you know,

583
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:50,440
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny. This is like we're you cooled down, Wendy.

584
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:55,879
Speaker 1: I don't know that that whole sequence like it started out.

585
00:34:55,920 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: I'm like, well, it's good that she's kicking their ass.

586
00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:01,439
Speaker 1: And then it's or have ended, like and then you've

587
00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:06,480
Speaker 1: you had nine kids and they get together? Is this

588
00:35:06,560 --> 00:35:10,480
Speaker 1: a good time to say that? Benny now is an

589
00:35:10,600 --> 00:35:17,040
Speaker 1: L A P. D. Firefighter. Oh Benny Firefighter. He was

590
00:35:17,160 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 1: higher from acting at the seven after being in D

591
00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:27,399
Speaker 1: two and D three The Mighty Duck No Way got

592
00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,719
Speaker 1: type cast and then he was like, I'm going out

593
00:35:29,760 --> 00:35:34,720
Speaker 1: on top and I'm gonna save this beautiful city from fires.

594
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:40,320
Speaker 1: And he's oh god, oh. He was arrested for what

595
00:35:41,480 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 1: Vitar and two other firemen were involved in a physical

596
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:48,239
Speaker 1: altercation with another man who was severely injured on Halloween.

597
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 1: He was booked on December three for the incident and

598
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,800
Speaker 1: was later released on thirty bail. We don't, my gosh,

599
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,480
Speaker 1: he beat up a guy on Halloween, and his defense

600
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:04,520
Speaker 1: it was, yeah, maybe it's like the Purge, you can

601
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,440
Speaker 1: community crime, you one on Halloween? Or oh yeah, we're

602
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: talk about Wendy Peppercorne. Um, here's something I had a

603
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:16,800
Speaker 1: question about. Does Dennis Larry and his wife with no

604
00:36:17,000 --> 00:36:19,960
Speaker 1: name have a good marriage or do they hate each other.

605
00:36:20,160 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: She seems a little bit scared of him. She's into

606
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:27,080
Speaker 1: like where he's always in his room. I scared to

607
00:36:27,120 --> 00:36:29,719
Speaker 1: talk to him. She's like right where She's like, go

608
00:36:29,880 --> 00:36:32,640
Speaker 1: talk to your dad. And I don't know, like the

609
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:36,759
Speaker 1: dynamic between them, Dennis Larry seemed very mean. First of all,

610
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:40,279
Speaker 1: I love that Dennis ar Yeah, Like, but what does

611
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:46,640
Speaker 1: he do's his job? Where's he going? He travels? He travels,

612
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,080
Speaker 1: He's and I get that, like we're sort of seeing

613
00:36:49,120 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 1: his parents through Scotty's eyes where it's like no one

614
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:58,640
Speaker 1: totally you knows what their dad does, and like, you know, really, yeah,

615
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,799
Speaker 1: I have no idea. There's I asked someone what they

616
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 1: dad did recently? Any answered like something involving bricks? Was

617
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 1: that me? Because my dad's a bricklayer? But I know

618
00:37:08,320 --> 00:37:11,319
Speaker 1: that my st is your dad a bricklayer? You know

619
00:37:11,400 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: what you do? This is over over thirty lad me

620
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 1: some bricks. I always say, I need to just hook

621
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 1: up with a Scottish bricklayer. Is your dad's Scottish? No, see,

622
00:37:24,600 --> 00:37:27,880
Speaker 1: I'm objectifying that you're going to scott on this summer, right, Yeah,

623
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,440
Speaker 1: that's my If anybody from Scalens listening to that you're

624
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 1: a bricklayer, you just need to go to like brickless

625
00:37:35,360 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: areas and just wait, don't show up. Yeah exactly. I've

626
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 1: never seen brick being before. I've only seen it. You're

627
00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: gonna want to see its bricks getting laid. Oh yeah, bricks. Yes,

628
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:54,480
Speaker 1: my dad is a sports reporter and there's no less

629
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,880
Speaker 1: I mean, which Scotty is at the end, there's no

630
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Speaker 1: last sexy profession in the entire world. Just all people

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Speaker 1: who were like, well, it wasn't that good at sports.

632
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:07,200
Speaker 1: So now I wear hats and I sweat a lot

633
00:38:07,480 --> 00:38:13,719
Speaker 1: that can who can't report the thing? Right, that's the thing.

634
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:16,240
Speaker 1: But I will see my dad one third place Local

635
00:38:16,239 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 1: Emmy for his volleyball coverage in two thousand and seven.

636
00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,160
Speaker 1: Is your dad really a sportscaster? Because he's a he's

637
00:38:23,160 --> 00:38:25,600
Speaker 1: a print guy, but he has more followers in you.

638
00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:28,480
Speaker 1: He has more followers on Twitter than me. It's really

639
00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:32,239
Speaker 1: but I wish to god it was a joke. I

640
00:38:32,239 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 1: had him for a little bit in early We got

641
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,400
Speaker 1: into like this really fun screaming match where I was

642
00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 1: like I did it and he was like, just you wait,

643
00:38:41,920 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 1: and I did wait, and then he beat me again

644
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:48,280
Speaker 1: because he's got the Bruins exclusives and I don't have those.

645
00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:51,320
Speaker 1: I should start getting them. If you're out there listening

646
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:54,640
Speaker 1: to this podcast, please follow Jamie on Twitter at Hamburger Phone.

647
00:38:54,680 --> 00:39:00,080
Speaker 1: Please block my dad at loftis underscore Ledger. I did.

648
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: I asked people to block my dad and a lot

649
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: of people who were very supportive, and they blocked my

650
00:39:04,080 --> 00:39:07,239
Speaker 1: dad's you know, I was like, suspend his account. He

651
00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:12,319
Speaker 1: followed me and really see you now. He's like trying

652
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,319
Speaker 1: to appeal to people and be like, I'm gonna follow

653
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:17,239
Speaker 1: Jamie's friends and like, first of all, if they don't

654
00:39:17,239 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: know what's up, that looks very weird on your end.

655
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:23,120
Speaker 1: Did he try to get your account suspended as well? No,

656
00:39:23,400 --> 00:39:26,719
Speaker 1: he's very mature about it. But no, he'll post about

657
00:39:26,719 --> 00:39:30,600
Speaker 1: it on Facebook sometimes and be like, whenever my daughter

658
00:39:30,719 --> 00:39:33,239
Speaker 1: does this, dot dot dot, I get a lot of

659
00:39:33,360 --> 00:39:36,400
Speaker 1: followers on Twitter. And then all his high school friends

660
00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:42,919
Speaker 1: were like, yeah, Mike, I love Sully because that's why. Yeah, man,

661
00:39:43,120 --> 00:39:46,760
Speaker 1: having a dad named Mike is so is the greatest

662
00:39:46,760 --> 00:39:50,040
Speaker 1: struggle of my life. My name really wait, why is

663
00:39:50,080 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 1: this struggle for you? Well, because there are so many

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Speaker 1: people out there named Mike, and sometimes you'll find yourself

665
00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:59,280
Speaker 1: in and in in a in a romantic situation, perhaps

666
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,960
Speaker 1: with a mind, and then it's like, there's been mix

667
00:40:03,000 --> 00:40:06,280
Speaker 1: in my life my dad's sales. I never had a problem.

668
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:09,040
Speaker 1: That's amazing. My name is Steve, which I think is

669
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:14,000
Speaker 1: already the least sexy name ever, but he's a bricklayer. Hey,

670
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Speaker 1: can we talk about how the most interesting female character

671
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 1: in this movie is the character that's in the Wolfman,

672
00:40:21,160 --> 00:40:24,520
Speaker 1: which is being screened in like a movie theater as

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Speaker 1: they're like chasing the dogs chasing. Yeah, it's towards the

674
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 1: end they like are running through the town and like

675
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:33,560
Speaker 1: this picnic and stuff, and then they go into this

676
00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:37,200
Speaker 1: movie theater and the dog like bursts through the projector screen.

677
00:40:37,480 --> 00:40:41,279
Speaker 1: I looked it up there watching the Wolfman. From the

678
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Speaker 1: female character from that, I think it's the most interesting

679
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 1: character in the sand Loot. Is it possible the Beast

680
00:40:47,600 --> 00:40:50,000
Speaker 1: as a girl. Well, I don't know, because we get

681
00:40:50,040 --> 00:40:57,440
Speaker 1: some shots the dog and that dog has got very

682
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:07,319
Speaker 1: permanent bobby he's packing. But essentially I did have a

683
00:41:07,400 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: female cat called the Dude, so you know it's named

684
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:16,600
Speaker 1: after the big Lebowski. Yeah, I got you, got you

685
00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:22,000
Speaker 1: very I've seen that movie. Brag, good job, Jamie. That'd

686
00:41:22,000 --> 00:41:26,440
Speaker 1: be a good movie for the test. Yeah, I don't

687
00:41:26,440 --> 00:41:28,560
Speaker 1: think it passes. If it does, it's by one of

688
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: those like very like bar line interactions. We've had a

689
00:41:33,680 --> 00:41:37,799
Speaker 1: few of those, but it's is unfortunate the sand Lot though,

690
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:42,560
Speaker 1: the sand Lotte, you know it, it fails the test

691
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:47,440
Speaker 1: for pretty pretty spectacular. I think even uh women maybe

692
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 1: only get a combined like five minutes of screen time

693
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Speaker 1: total because his mom is only and it's mostly his

694
00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:57,520
Speaker 1: exposition mommy who comes in. I thought that it was

695
00:41:57,600 --> 00:42:00,759
Speaker 1: weird that one of her first scene, I think, is

696
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,799
Speaker 1: just her bursting into the room, like why don't you

697
00:42:03,840 --> 00:42:07,400
Speaker 1: have any friends? Like, like, I would be so terrified

698
00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:10,200
Speaker 1: of my mom because I mean, she wasn't that aggressive,

699
00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:12,560
Speaker 1: but she was just like do you friendshet do? And

700
00:42:12,600 --> 00:42:14,840
Speaker 1: he was like, no, I'm still a negad And she

701
00:42:14,920 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: was like, I want you to have a lot of friends,

702
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,920
Speaker 1: like it's important to have friends as like, jeez, she

703
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:22,600
Speaker 1: probably just wants him out of the house so that

704
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:27,520
Speaker 1: so she can do what. Also, the mom's anti engineering.

705
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 1: He's just trying to work on his kinetics set engineering

706
00:42:33,320 --> 00:42:37,359
Speaker 1: skills for the future. She's a woman against stem. She

707
00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:41,360
Speaker 1: women against them. It's like, who side are you on?

708
00:42:44,400 --> 00:42:47,600
Speaker 1: Let's do let's do the check the checklist of things

709
00:42:47,640 --> 00:42:50,839
Speaker 1: we look for in every movie. I would argue, we've

710
00:42:50,840 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: got some steampunk going. Okay, really okay, So like the

711
00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: erector set that well, no, they make they make some

712
00:42:59,719 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 1: some little contraptions to get the ball, to get the

713
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: Babe Ruth ball. So you know, I've expanded my uh

714
00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: my hatred of steampunk to anything involving gears and pulleys

715
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,880
Speaker 1: and any anybody like. You know, there's a little bit

716
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:21,520
Speaker 1: of steampull. I'll you know the Machine Works, which is

717
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 1: they make it kind but I think they make it

718
00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 1: out of the erector set. Oh do they? Okay? I

719
00:43:26,840 --> 00:43:28,719
Speaker 1: will say I made macaroni and cheese while I was

720
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,879
Speaker 1: watching this movie a this time, and so there are

721
00:43:30,920 --> 00:43:33,720
Speaker 1: maybe two two to three minutes that I don't totally

722
00:43:33,719 --> 00:43:36,160
Speaker 1: know what happens, and my roommate talked to me and

723
00:43:36,160 --> 00:43:38,959
Speaker 1: I had to pause it. Oh yeah, oh I didn't

724
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Speaker 1: have before, You've never spoken to Yeah, yeah, yeah, I paused.

725
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Speaker 1: I would because I was in the kitchen. He caught

726
00:43:45,880 --> 00:43:48,160
Speaker 1: me because he had he had taken he had just

727
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:54,560
Speaker 1: taken a shower, like because he had slops because I

728
00:43:54,600 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: was trying to see, um, hey, does anyone have to

729
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,880
Speaker 1: hear like you do when you're playing baseball and you're

730
00:44:01,920 --> 00:44:04,520
Speaker 1: rounding the bases? Good? Yes, that was what I was

731
00:44:04,520 --> 00:44:08,920
Speaker 1: trying to back together. I was on a UM. So

732
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Speaker 1: I've been on a few different softball teams in my life,

733
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Speaker 1: not in high school or anything like that. UM, but

734
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Speaker 1: I was on like the Boston comedy softball. Oh I

735
00:44:19,520 --> 00:44:21,839
Speaker 1: was afraid of that. Yeah, I was not very good.

736
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Speaker 1: I knew a bunch of female comics who are who

737
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,279
Speaker 1: were on that bossing softball league I was invited to,

738
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Speaker 1: but I was like, I'm I'm kind of scared, so

739
00:44:30,960 --> 00:44:35,960
Speaker 1: I guess I was. I was not helpful. But anyways,

740
00:44:35,960 --> 00:44:38,040
Speaker 1: softball teams are cool. I like to I was gonna

741
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 1: play softball and I was a kid and I was

742
00:44:40,000 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: practicing with my dad and he hit me in the

743
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,360
Speaker 1: face with the ball. I just didn't want to play anymore.

744
00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,520
Speaker 1: What that aim? Yeah? How bad? Was your dad a

745
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:58,439
Speaker 1: huge on accident? You know as an actor? Yeah? Really,

746
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:02,600
Speaker 1: my dad tripped me on purpose when I was little,

747
00:45:03,000 --> 00:45:05,759
Speaker 1: because I know, And then I asked him about it

748
00:45:05,760 --> 00:45:07,239
Speaker 1: about a year ago, and do you remember where you

749
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: tripped me? Because I don't know. I had been complaining

750
00:45:10,400 --> 00:45:12,640
Speaker 1: about a scab I had on my knee and I'm like,

751
00:45:12,760 --> 00:45:15,240
Speaker 1: this is so stupid. I hate that I have this gap.

752
00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,600
Speaker 1: It's ugly. I wish I had fallen off my bike,

753
00:45:18,080 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 1: and I guess I was being annoying and then he

754
00:45:21,560 --> 00:45:23,000
Speaker 1: tripped me. And I don't think he thought I was

755
00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:25,400
Speaker 1: going to fell fall but I did, and then this

756
00:45:25,480 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 1: gab got bigger. Dad Yeah deserves to be blocked on

757
00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:36,200
Speaker 1: Twitter for everyone block. He needs to make a movie

758
00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:40,600
Speaker 1: called bad Dad. Am I right, guys, what about Daddy's Home?

759
00:45:41,280 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: I was, what about bad Santa Bat Santa? Um? There?

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00:45:48,280 --> 00:45:52,719
Speaker 1: I had to write click bait today as I do, uh,

761
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 1: so I can pay for things I and I wrote

762
00:45:55,960 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: about the rock Vin Diesel feud uh And my favorite

763
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,040
Speaker 1: part of learning about it was that when Vin Diesel

764
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,480
Speaker 1: stormed off the set of the Fate of the Furious

765
00:46:06,680 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: last summer, he said, Daddy's gone and then he laughed,

766
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 1: and that's true, that happened. He said, well, allegedly he

767
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,560
Speaker 1: said Daddy's gone. And I was like, whoa. After eight movies,

768
00:46:17,640 --> 00:46:21,440
Speaker 1: I guess that is allowed. You can just say daddy's gone.

769
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,759
Speaker 1: Maybe he's daddy on set. Maybe everybody's asking him to

770
00:46:24,800 --> 00:46:28,839
Speaker 1: teach you to ride bikes and stuff like that. Like

771
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: Vin's like kind of our daddy. It's like kind of

772
00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:35,839
Speaker 1: the vibe he per checks, it makes us sandwiches and

773
00:46:35,920 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: cuts the crust off. He's a good daddy. He's not

774
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:42,840
Speaker 1: like the movie you're going to write bad Daddy, Daddy

775
00:46:43,640 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: d bad Daddy I can't wait for that billboard good.

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00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:53,120
Speaker 1: Does anyone have any final thoughts about the movie The

777
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Speaker 1: sand Lot. I want a version of this movie that

778
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:58,719
Speaker 1: has a girl on the team. I think I would

779
00:46:58,719 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 1: have really really loved that movie when younger. I agree,

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00:47:02,000 --> 00:47:04,160
Speaker 1: and I think so too. Even though I did love

781
00:47:04,160 --> 00:47:05,760
Speaker 1: the movie when I was younger, I think a girl

782
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,160
Speaker 1: would make it better. Hey, my one, not two girls.

783
00:47:09,239 --> 00:47:11,800
Speaker 1: I like when I was a kid and like playing

784
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:15,000
Speaker 1: sports and soccer, kickball or whatever. Like in my neighborhood

785
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 1: it was mostly boys, but I was a girl and

786
00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 1: I was there. I was playing, and I was better

787
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:22,120
Speaker 1: than most of them. Also, I was on a soccer

788
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 1: team where I was one of two girls and then

789
00:47:24,680 --> 00:47:27,279
Speaker 1: everyone else was a boy. But like we were I

790
00:47:27,320 --> 00:47:29,320
Speaker 1: don't know, like seven or something, and it was like

791
00:47:29,360 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 1: a co ed team, and um, the girls were yes,

792
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:36,160
Speaker 1: under represented, but we were there. We were playing score

793
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 1: a goal once. I would like to see more girls.

794
00:47:38,600 --> 00:47:41,560
Speaker 1: But okay, I think maybe I'm just a bad person.

795
00:47:41,640 --> 00:47:44,479
Speaker 1: But is there something to be said about Like there's

796
00:47:44,520 --> 00:47:47,360
Speaker 1: like that dynamic of like the one girl like squeezes

797
00:47:47,360 --> 00:47:50,080
Speaker 1: in and then teaches them all a lesson. That's the

798
00:47:50,280 --> 00:47:52,839
Speaker 1: kind of thing it's like a trope. It's like the

799
00:47:52,880 --> 00:47:57,439
Speaker 1: one strong female is like, fuck y'all, like girls rule.

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00:47:57,920 --> 00:48:00,120
Speaker 1: I wish that wasn't a trope, you know, but it's

801
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:03,080
Speaker 1: like there's something about I mean, that trope that would

802
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:06,120
Speaker 1: have worked well in the movie. That even extends to

803
00:48:06,200 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 1: like I think we've talked about that with like superhero

804
00:48:08,480 --> 00:48:12,920
Speaker 1: movies before, where there's like one female superhero and then

805
00:48:13,000 --> 00:48:19,160
Speaker 1: she like kicks something and they're like, whoa, that's crazy, right,

806
00:48:19,239 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: and then she like folds her arms and she's like,

807
00:48:21,840 --> 00:48:26,200
Speaker 1: I know that's a yeah, I mean, that's Strong Girls,

808
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 1: the Powerpuff Girls, three girls, three Strong Girls, you know,

809
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,640
Speaker 1: the kick but every episode passes afect test. Yeah, every

810
00:48:34,640 --> 00:48:38,400
Speaker 1: episode past the effectual test exactly, and they kick. Yeah.

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00:48:38,440 --> 00:48:40,120
Speaker 1: But Kyle, that's a good point. Maybe if there was

812
00:48:40,160 --> 00:48:43,879
Speaker 1: like a pair of sisters, um that yeah, I mean,

813
00:48:43,920 --> 00:48:46,120
Speaker 1: and then you could avoid that trope pretty easily because

814
00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:49,320
Speaker 1: even if there were two little girls on this team

815
00:48:49,680 --> 00:48:51,719
Speaker 1: and one of them was great and one of them

816
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:56,080
Speaker 1: was really bad at baseball. Because I was a dent

817
00:48:56,200 --> 00:48:59,080
Speaker 1: that kid who was like, we need one more person,

818
00:48:59,440 --> 00:49:02,799
Speaker 1: you know, Jammy, can you just stand here? Yeah? Like

819
00:49:02,880 --> 00:49:05,640
Speaker 1: and then like I was I was not a sporty child.

820
00:49:05,800 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 1: But um, you know, maybe if there are two female characters,

821
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,640
Speaker 1: you could sort of dodge that trope too. Sure. Yeah,

822
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:17,759
Speaker 1: and also maybe if Wendy Peppercorn's girlfriend shows up when

823
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 1: Squint's kisses her and it's like, hey, she's taken whoa

824
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,480
Speaker 1: you know? Yeah, and then she drowned Squints, And then

825
00:49:29,200 --> 00:49:31,880
Speaker 1: I will say I would love someone to drown to

826
00:49:31,960 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: impress me, but I would want it to end in

827
00:49:34,920 --> 00:49:38,719
Speaker 1: them actually drowning. I just want to say real quick,

828
00:49:38,760 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: like I can't something I know we talked about, like

829
00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,080
Speaker 1: the kiss, like Squints, it's sexual assault, and I hate

830
00:49:43,120 --> 00:49:46,040
Speaker 1: to excuse it this way, but there's an innocence that

831
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,640
Speaker 1: kids have where like he doesn't realize, you know what

832
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,840
Speaker 1: I mean. That's the problem though, So that's the problem

833
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,080
Speaker 1: that it's he doesn't know. But it's like there's an

834
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Speaker 1: innocence to like stealing a kiss from someone. You know,

835
00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:00,880
Speaker 1: it's like kiss my cheek, you turn your head and

836
00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 1: like steal the kiss and it's like, oh, you know,

837
00:50:03,160 --> 00:50:05,399
Speaker 1: and this isn't you know, you know what I mean?

838
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,440
Speaker 1: And not to minimize any type of sexual assault, I

839
00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:12,480
Speaker 1: don't want to do that, you know, being kissed is

840
00:50:12,520 --> 00:50:18,240
Speaker 1: probably less traumatic and other horrible things that can happen

841
00:50:18,280 --> 00:50:21,560
Speaker 1: to you. So I do, I mean, I I do

842
00:50:22,000 --> 00:50:25,480
Speaker 1: get the innocence part of it, because it totally is

843
00:50:25,520 --> 00:50:29,239
Speaker 1: like a you know, a kid thing, like you're just

844
00:50:29,360 --> 00:50:31,520
Speaker 1: psyche that he like kissed a girl, you know what

845
00:50:31,560 --> 00:50:35,560
Speaker 1: I mean. They're not like right, yeah, it's you know

846
00:50:35,560 --> 00:50:38,040
Speaker 1: what I mean, Like it's like it's like kind of

847
00:50:38,080 --> 00:50:41,200
Speaker 1: about perspective, but it's like not. But it's also not

848
00:50:41,280 --> 00:50:44,440
Speaker 1: okay to like present that as an okay thing for kids.

849
00:50:44,480 --> 00:50:46,600
Speaker 1: You know, it's like it starts somewhere. It's kind of

850
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,239
Speaker 1: the problem. But yeah, it's the way it sort of

851
00:50:49,239 --> 00:50:51,359
Speaker 1: goes back to the lack of challenging anything, where if

852
00:50:51,440 --> 00:50:54,040
Speaker 1: Dennis Leary was just like, hey, don't do that, you

853
00:50:54,080 --> 00:50:57,280
Speaker 1: know that's or like at any point appeared to even

854
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: vaguely like his wife and be like respect this one.

855
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:02,600
Speaker 1: We don't know what her name is, I don't know

856
00:51:02,640 --> 00:51:05,400
Speaker 1: where her name is, but you know, she seems afraid

857
00:51:05,400 --> 00:51:09,120
Speaker 1: of me. Well, I think in the voice over the

858
00:51:09,160 --> 00:51:12,319
Speaker 1: older Scotty does after that happens with Wendy Peppercorn, he

859
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:15,120
Speaker 1: said something, yes, Squint's put the move on the lifeguard.

860
00:51:15,360 --> 00:51:19,480
Speaker 1: There's definitely like the seeds of something and teaching little

861
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:23,839
Speaker 1: boys and that that's cool or something. Yeah, it's I mean,

862
00:51:23,880 --> 00:51:27,719
Speaker 1: there's it's definitely a gray area where it's like we're

863
00:51:27,800 --> 00:51:32,320
Speaker 1: not gonna take squints to court over this, but showing

864
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:37,800
Speaker 1: that and then leaving it relatively unaddressed and that smile

865
00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,600
Speaker 1: and wave to him like she liked it or something right,

866
00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:44,279
Speaker 1: right right, and then just leave hers being mad. You know,

867
00:51:44,360 --> 00:51:46,880
Speaker 1: she's mad, like she's not going to come back and

868
00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:50,680
Speaker 1: suddenly have a crush on him or something, and then

869
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:54,879
Speaker 1: doubled down and then yeah, and then be like she

870
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: she loved it so much she couldn't get enough. She

871
00:51:58,280 --> 00:52:02,040
Speaker 1: kept coming back from where she sucked him five billion times. Okay. Also,

872
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,120
Speaker 1: like in terms of thinking of like mischief and stuff,

873
00:52:05,200 --> 00:52:08,399
Speaker 1: it's kind of funny to like trick someone into thinking

874
00:52:08,440 --> 00:52:11,440
Speaker 1: they're giving you CPR and then you know, like smack

875
00:52:11,520 --> 00:52:13,120
Speaker 1: him with a kiss, you know what I mean. Like

876
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,000
Speaker 1: there's like the kind of it's like kind of like

877
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:19,200
Speaker 1: a like mischievous. It's like a hard I mean, that's

878
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:21,799
Speaker 1: a hard thing. I know, it's so hard, and like

879
00:52:21,800 --> 00:52:24,680
Speaker 1: we're you know, we're pulling apart, but and I'm probably

880
00:52:24,719 --> 00:52:28,000
Speaker 1: like approaching this too much like a s j W.

881
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:33,080
Speaker 1: No no, no, no, yeah no, I just like to

882
00:52:33,200 --> 00:52:35,080
Speaker 1: want to like talk about it because it's just like

883
00:52:35,200 --> 00:52:39,839
Speaker 1: it is weird. Yeah, and and then like is this presented? Yeah,

884
00:52:39,880 --> 00:52:42,960
Speaker 1: like I said, like so lightly, you know, but then

885
00:52:43,040 --> 00:52:45,680
Speaker 1: it's uh right, But then it's like that's that maybe

886
00:52:45,719 --> 00:52:50,680
Speaker 1: the seeds of of like making a few seeing its okay, Yeah,

887
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:54,160
Speaker 1: like if you see stuff like that enough times where

888
00:52:54,840 --> 00:53:00,400
Speaker 1: it's like again, the audience of this is like young Andy, exactly,

889
00:53:00,400 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: it is true. So I don't know, it's tricky. It's tricky.

890
00:53:05,080 --> 00:53:07,960
Speaker 1: There's there's a lot of and I guess that that's

891
00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: why internalized misogyny is is it's so hard to shake because,

892
00:53:12,840 --> 00:53:15,040
Speaker 1: like you know, like in a lot of like like

893
00:53:15,200 --> 00:53:18,920
Speaker 1: comedy of errors type things like forces and stuff, they

894
00:53:18,960 --> 00:53:22,359
Speaker 1: have a you know, a guy dressed up as someone

895
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,959
Speaker 1: else and they kiss you know what I mean. There's

896
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:28,560
Speaker 1: like a like getting someone to kiss you under false pretense. Yeah,

897
00:53:28,600 --> 00:53:30,719
Speaker 1: there's like kind of like that cliche kind of like

898
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:34,520
Speaker 1: trophy thing about like tricking someone into kissing you that

899
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:39,040
Speaker 1: I think it plays with Man, I would feel so

900
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: much better about that if a we just let Wendy

901
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,279
Speaker 1: stay mad. Yeah, yeah, yeah exactly, and b if the

902
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,440
Speaker 1: voiceover after had been just a little bit like not

903
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,440
Speaker 1: even a little bit like more critical chance with her

904
00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: or whatever, or like right or like we learned later

905
00:53:56,280 --> 00:53:59,600
Speaker 1: that that's not what you do and not like, man,

906
00:54:00,200 --> 00:54:02,000
Speaker 1: that was kind of gross, but it was mostly dope.

907
00:54:02,160 --> 00:54:05,480
Speaker 1: And now I was a forty year old sports reporter

908
00:54:05,640 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 1: still think, like, fuck, that kid was so cool. That's weird, right,

909
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:16,440
Speaker 1: that's weird. Also, not to objectify old Scottie, but he

910
00:54:16,480 --> 00:54:20,080
Speaker 1: looked like shit. Man, I was just such a little kid,

911
00:54:20,200 --> 00:54:28,040
Speaker 1: so did old Benny. Why you mustache? Not? He could

912
00:54:28,080 --> 00:54:31,800
Speaker 1: have been so much hotter. I don't love a mustache,

913
00:54:31,800 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: but I thought he looks he was a man at

914
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:36,759
Speaker 1: the nineties. You know, nineties men had mustaches. I was

915
00:54:36,840 --> 00:54:38,680
Speaker 1: so excited for him to grow up, to get his

916
00:54:38,800 --> 00:54:42,040
Speaker 1: hot hunk. And then and then it was that he

917
00:54:42,160 --> 00:54:45,440
Speaker 1: didn't like meet my expectations. But I don't think he

918
00:54:45,880 --> 00:54:50,640
Speaker 1: has a hot child. He was, and I like a

919
00:54:50,680 --> 00:54:54,000
Speaker 1: good mustache. Some some children I used to think we're hot.

920
00:54:54,320 --> 00:54:57,239
Speaker 1: A list of two people who come to mind, Oh wait,

921
00:54:57,239 --> 00:55:00,759
Speaker 1: no three, okay, Number one Peter Pan in the two

922
00:55:00,800 --> 00:55:04,520
Speaker 1: thousand three live action Peter Pan. His name was Jeremy something,

923
00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:09,759
Speaker 1: and he was very cute. Number two Liam Aiken in

924
00:55:10,360 --> 00:55:12,680
Speaker 1: two thousand and four is a Series of Unfortunate Events.

925
00:55:12,719 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: He played Klass little mop top adorable. Number three, and

926
00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: this was one that I remember. My mom told my

927
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:24,920
Speaker 1: cousins Jamie has a crush on Chris from a direct

928
00:55:25,080 --> 00:55:29,600
Speaker 1: to video Casper movie called Casper Returns. And I had

929
00:55:29,600 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: a huge crush on little Chris who had his all.

930
00:55:33,280 --> 00:55:35,600
Speaker 1: His hair was like one huge cowlic he had a

931
00:55:35,680 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 1: middle part, and I was just like, he's so cute,

932
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 1: and I confided in my mom and then she fucking

933
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,960
Speaker 1: blew it. She told everyone and my cousins were like,

934
00:55:44,080 --> 00:55:47,960
Speaker 1: you like Chris, He's all you know, he only has banks,

935
00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:51,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I like that. Anyways, three hot children.

936
00:55:51,280 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: I don't remember even when I wasn't a kid, I

937
00:55:54,560 --> 00:55:58,000
Speaker 1: don't remember being attracted to like other kids on screen.

938
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:01,880
Speaker 1: Like all my movie crushes were on adult men, which

939
00:56:02,600 --> 00:56:04,160
Speaker 1: I don't know what that says about me. And I

940
00:56:04,200 --> 00:56:09,120
Speaker 1: went to either my age or very old because then

941
00:56:09,239 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: the incomes the Alfred Molina crush and that and that

942
00:56:12,760 --> 00:56:23,520
Speaker 1: gets tricky. This Alfred Molina Dock like Spider Man. Okay,

943
00:56:23,680 --> 00:56:29,160
Speaker 1: he's also he's in Frieda and he's Oh I love

944
00:56:29,360 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: chack a lot plays the is the mayor. I want

945
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,440
Speaker 1: to say he's not the hot character in the movie,

946
00:56:36,400 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 1: but I think he's the hot character in the movie.

947
00:56:39,840 --> 00:56:47,399
Speaker 1: And the goalie from Mighty Ducks bad Boy and he's

948
00:56:47,440 --> 00:56:48,799
Speaker 1: like they get him to be on the team because

949
00:56:48,800 --> 00:56:52,200
Speaker 1: he's like so fast, I get blocking on the pucks. Yeah,

950
00:56:52,239 --> 00:56:55,000
Speaker 1: I never thought I didn't. I only saw the Mighty Ducks,

951
00:56:55,360 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: I think once, but like, but it's cool, and there's like,

952
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: Oh and another hot child, the kid from Ned's Declassified

953
00:57:03,880 --> 00:57:07,799
Speaker 1: School Survival Guide. I thought Ned was so cute and

954
00:57:07,840 --> 00:57:11,200
Speaker 1: then his his friend, who was a girl, was tall

955
00:57:11,760 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 1: and I was like, it's me. I'm taller than all

956
00:57:14,040 --> 00:57:17,200
Speaker 1: my you know, everyone so small and I'm so big.

957
00:57:17,320 --> 00:57:19,240
Speaker 1: And they still had a crush on each other, and

958
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:22,040
Speaker 1: that I was inspired. I was like, wow, small men,

959
00:57:22,120 --> 00:57:25,440
Speaker 1: you really can make it happen. Yeah. So that's four

960
00:57:25,480 --> 00:57:29,680
Speaker 1: hot children. Oh and Natalie had one two so I

961
00:57:29,680 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 1: can't think of any Maybe I was just a horny kid.

962
00:57:32,120 --> 00:57:40,240
Speaker 1: I don't know, but kids are horny their parts and stuff. Yeah,

963
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,480
Speaker 1: they don't realize it, but yeah they are. I mean,

964
00:57:42,560 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: and and every kid has a weird memory, like like,

965
00:57:46,360 --> 00:57:49,520
Speaker 1: I remember Corey who lived in the trailer down the street,

966
00:57:49,800 --> 00:57:52,000
Speaker 1: who I had such a huge crush at one time.

967
00:57:52,080 --> 00:57:56,520
Speaker 1: He like, I mean again, he's like kind of cornered me.

968
00:57:56,720 --> 00:57:59,720
Speaker 1: But I was like, oh Corey, you know, and he

969
00:58:00,000 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: got me singing a song from Hercules in my backyard

970
00:58:03,760 --> 00:58:10,920
Speaker 1: and then he kissed my forehead. Thank you, thank you

971
00:58:11,640 --> 00:58:14,000
Speaker 1: on my forehead because he is a little bit taller

972
00:58:14,040 --> 00:58:20,000
Speaker 1: than me. So well, I think it's time. I think

973
00:58:20,040 --> 00:58:23,480
Speaker 1: it's time to rate the movie all horned up? Yep,

974
00:58:24,520 --> 00:58:26,280
Speaker 1: does anyone want to go first week rate on a

975
00:58:26,280 --> 00:58:28,600
Speaker 1: scale of zero to five nipples based on its portrayal

976
00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,600
Speaker 1: of women? Oh my gosh, I'll go first base on

977
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:38,400
Speaker 1: his portrayal of women. It gets like a zero unfortunately.

978
00:58:38,520 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 1: But I do love the movie still for nostalgia. But

979
00:58:43,760 --> 00:58:46,240
Speaker 1: and you know, I think it's just got some classic moments.

980
00:58:46,320 --> 00:58:51,920
Speaker 1: But yeah, zero on its portrayal of women. Unfortunately. Yeah,

981
00:58:51,960 --> 00:58:55,520
Speaker 1: I'll give it a zero as well. I want, Okay,

982
00:58:55,600 --> 00:58:57,640
Speaker 1: we gotta I think that this is more of a

983
00:58:57,680 --> 00:59:00,000
Speaker 1: call to actually, we gotta do a sand Lot reboot.

984
00:59:00,440 --> 00:59:07,120
Speaker 1: Replace the boy twins with girl twins were good to go, like, yeah, yeah,

985
00:59:07,320 --> 00:59:09,640
Speaker 1: just give us, give us a new sand lot with

986
00:59:10,120 --> 00:59:13,200
Speaker 1: with a girl, and then everything else can yeah, you know,

987
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:16,200
Speaker 1: and give the mom a name. Yeah if if she

988
00:59:16,320 --> 00:59:18,960
Speaker 1: and Dennis Leary can even still be the dad if

989
00:59:19,000 --> 00:59:22,000
Speaker 1: he wants if he's not. He was a big hit

990
00:59:22,080 --> 00:59:26,520
Speaker 1: with you, isn't he. I love Dennis. Yeah. Well, anyways,

991
00:59:26,560 --> 00:59:28,400
Speaker 1: so I give it zero nipples. If I were to

992
00:59:28,440 --> 00:59:30,400
Speaker 1: give it a nipple of any sort that I would

993
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:37,560
Speaker 1: like to specify, it would be James Earl Jones's blind nipples. Yeah,

994
00:59:37,600 --> 00:59:39,200
Speaker 1: I was. I was going to give it like a

995
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,640
Speaker 1: half nipple until he said, well, just because we don't

996
00:59:42,640 --> 00:59:46,600
Speaker 1: even think we've ever given a movie zero nipples, especially

997
00:59:46,640 --> 00:59:50,720
Speaker 1: because one should I give it a one? I mean, well, no,

998
00:59:50,840 --> 00:59:53,520
Speaker 1: I don't think it deserves that much. Really, just it's

999
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,200
Speaker 1: just no female characters, and the ones that there are,

1000
00:59:56,880 --> 01:00:01,480
Speaker 1: you know, they're heavily objectified. They have very little screen time.

1001
01:00:02,120 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 1: His mom is. I mean, I guess I don't have

1002
01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,360
Speaker 1: any problems with her. I couldn't think of anything, but

1003
01:00:06,400 --> 01:00:09,080
Speaker 1: she's like she's just a little exposition machine. He's like

1004
01:00:09,120 --> 01:00:12,400
Speaker 1: all scared of the dad though. She Yeah, it's like

1005
01:00:12,720 --> 01:00:15,840
Speaker 1: when you maybe have time, can you teach about pride?

1006
01:00:16,720 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 1: Like he's about to hit her or something. And then

1007
01:00:19,280 --> 01:00:22,200
Speaker 1: his dad. Oh god, any movie where like the dad

1008
01:00:22,280 --> 01:00:25,120
Speaker 1: is always in a different room. You're just like, God,

1009
01:00:25,200 --> 01:00:27,560
Speaker 1: what is he doing in that room? What is he

1010
01:00:27,600 --> 01:00:32,320
Speaker 1: doing in the room? Yeah? Yeah, so I guess you

1011
01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:37,880
Speaker 1: guys are saying that reboot I but not videobots, no,

1012
01:00:38,440 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: give us a wide release. Yeah, like, actually a good

1013
01:00:42,000 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 1: movie though, That's what I'm saying, like so many times,

1014
01:00:44,360 --> 01:00:47,600
Speaker 1: the reboot of movie it just sucks. Yeah, you know,

1015
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: give us another Mighty Ducks as well. Yeah, I just

1016
01:00:50,880 --> 01:00:56,440
Speaker 1: meant or adults, but maybe I'll say they could just

1017
01:00:56,480 --> 01:00:59,400
Speaker 1: think of like a new thing. I love Amelia West

1018
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:04,440
Speaker 1: of Us. Yeah, hey, I'm gonna give it zero nipples. Um.

1019
01:01:05,160 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 1: The women are just uh, you know, poor Wendy. I

1020
01:01:08,680 --> 01:01:11,320
Speaker 1: want to like, give her more lines, give her make

1021
01:01:11,360 --> 01:01:15,080
Speaker 1: her not okay with her being kissed against her will.

1022
01:01:15,160 --> 01:01:18,360
Speaker 1: Don't make her marriage. I don't make her marriage at

1023
01:01:18,440 --> 01:01:20,720
Speaker 1: least that I mean, come on, it was like at

1024
01:01:20,760 --> 01:01:23,800
Speaker 1: it in the titles, like it's a bit much. Yeah,

1025
01:01:24,080 --> 01:01:28,240
Speaker 1: Sama is a good movie for nostalgia. It's a bad

1026
01:01:28,280 --> 01:01:31,840
Speaker 1: movie for for women in terms of the way the

1027
01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: characters are just don't exist or are. You know. This

1028
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:38,360
Speaker 1: is why we have the podcast because sometimes it's hard

1029
01:01:38,400 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: to be like, I love this movie, but God calls

1030
01:01:41,600 --> 01:01:43,760
Speaker 1: spade a spade. Sometimes I don't need it. I like.

1031
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:46,880
Speaker 1: I like a lot of the like Little the Boy characters.

1032
01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: They're fun. You know, it's a little boys movie for

1033
01:01:51,280 --> 01:01:54,520
Speaker 1: like little boys. Yeah they've got the chubby one. Yeah

1034
01:01:54,880 --> 01:01:59,360
Speaker 1: they've got they have of course. Yeah. I mean I

1035
01:01:59,360 --> 01:02:05,440
Speaker 1: guess because Hand became a wrestler, was like, that's pretty dope.

1036
01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:08,720
Speaker 1: Well not in real life, but in his epilog. I

1037
01:02:08,720 --> 01:02:11,360
Speaker 1: don't know if any of these kids act anymore. I

1038
01:02:11,400 --> 01:02:16,240
Speaker 1: think Ham does funny or die video or something good

1039
01:02:16,280 --> 01:02:21,960
Speaker 1: for him. Let's not good for him or good for him.

1040
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:24,840
Speaker 1: Hey Natalie, where can people find you online? Oh my gosh,

1041
01:02:25,000 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: find me at nat Dog cat Dog on Twitter Cat

1042
01:02:29,080 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: with a K and on Instagram at Natalie Palmidies. Also

1043
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:36,680
Speaker 1: shout out to all those Scottish bricklayers out there had

1044
01:02:37,360 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: coming through and yeah they'll be like from Scotland, there's

1045
01:02:41,680 --> 01:02:50,080
Speaker 1: a brick there's been there working me up over here.

1046
01:02:51,120 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for being here. Yeah, thanks chanting

1047
01:02:54,360 --> 01:02:56,800
Speaker 1: about this movie with us. Yeah, it's been a ton

1048
01:02:56,800 --> 01:03:02,080
Speaker 1: of fun. Has now home run and what I don't know.

1049
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,320
Speaker 1: I try to say something at the end of the

1050
01:03:05,360 --> 01:03:09,400
Speaker 1: episode that's like Okay, I think we're starting a new part.

1051
01:03:09,440 --> 01:03:12,680
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, oh, we're finished. Just go out

1052
01:03:12,720 --> 01:03:15,720
Speaker 1: there and hit a home run with your life, everybody.

1053
01:03:15,760 --> 01:03:19,240
Speaker 1: If you reach for the stars, you might get there. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Follow us on batel Cast. Thank you, bye,