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Speaker 1: Daniel Jeremiah from Moved the Sticks and I'm Bucky Brooks

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Speaker 1: and this is Justin Fields. Three sixty alright, Buck. Again,

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Speaker 1: telling him what he can't do. Um. I think he's

432
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,480
Speaker 1: gonna respond very well to that. So again, great to

433
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:11,639
Speaker 1: catch up with Matt Dickman. Um. Let's let's transition a

434
00:21:11,640 --> 00:21:13,480
Speaker 1: little bit here as we get towards the Ohio State

435
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,639
Speaker 1: years and and what it was like there. You know,

436
00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:18,680
Speaker 1: to keep in mind, Um did not begin his career there,

437
00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:21,360
Speaker 1: start off at Georgia, then transferred to Ohio State, which

438
00:21:21,359 --> 00:21:23,639
Speaker 1: is a topic we got a chance to visit with,

439
00:21:23,680 --> 00:21:26,639
Speaker 1: among other things, with Ohio State head coach Ryan Day.

440
00:21:27,480 --> 00:21:30,479
Speaker 1: Coach appreciates time man. Uh, I guess the first question

441
00:21:30,520 --> 00:21:34,399
Speaker 1: from me justin fields, Um, the first time you found

442
00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:36,080
Speaker 1: out that he was gonna be available, he's gonna be

443
00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 1: transferred from Georgia. That that first conversation you had with him.

444
00:21:40,080 --> 00:21:43,920
Speaker 1: What was that like, Well, it was just to kind

445
00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 1: of get to know you. You know, he was a

446
00:21:46,760 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 1: little emotional about everything. It was hard for him and

447
00:21:49,960 --> 00:21:52,400
Speaker 1: just talk to him about what this could be here

448
00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 1: in our situation, told him what her offense, told him

449
00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 1: about my background with coaching quarterbacks and what, um, you

450
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:04,760
Speaker 1: know this potentially could could turn into. And he was great.

451
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,960
Speaker 1: I gotta be honest with you that the first couple

452
00:22:06,960 --> 00:22:09,280
Speaker 1: of weeks it was hard for him. Um, you know

453
00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:12,320
Speaker 1: new here. I know there was times where it maybe

454
00:22:12,359 --> 00:22:14,360
Speaker 1: even questioned it. But once we got through those first

455
00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:15,840
Speaker 1: couple of weeks, he kind of took it and ran.

456
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:17,919
Speaker 1: You know, coach, what were your first impressions when you

457
00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 1: had a chance to work with him on the field.

458
00:22:19,560 --> 00:22:23,159
Speaker 1: Immediately you recognize the talent level. It's just off the charts.

459
00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:25,199
Speaker 1: And he didn't get a chance to play very much

460
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,840
Speaker 1: as a freshman at Georgia, so you know, we're started

461
00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 1: with a little bit of a blank slate that way,

462
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:33,000
Speaker 1: and when he got here, um, he picked things up

463
00:22:33,080 --> 00:22:36,800
Speaker 1: very quickly. He he learns very well. He's very intelligent,

464
00:22:37,200 --> 00:22:41,800
Speaker 1: very talented, and to me, I looked at it like this, Okay, Uh,

465
00:22:42,040 --> 00:22:43,720
Speaker 1: I said to this team, to the to the staff,

466
00:22:43,760 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: I said, well, he's six through, he's two five pounds.

467
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:50,359
Speaker 1: He's smart, he's really really accurate. Okay, can we coach,

468
00:22:50,640 --> 00:22:53,480
Speaker 1: I said, because you can't ask for anyone this, So

469
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:55,639
Speaker 1: we'll find out what kind of coaches we have. I

470
00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,280
Speaker 1: love that coach. He always seems so serious and so

471
00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:02,520
Speaker 1: business like. Um is there is there a time maybe

472
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: away from the field, that the Justin kind of let

473
00:23:05,040 --> 00:23:07,040
Speaker 1: his guard down a little bit, and uh, I just

474
00:23:07,040 --> 00:23:09,000
Speaker 1: want to know is he laughed? Is he having fun?

475
00:23:09,040 --> 00:23:12,280
Speaker 1: He just seems so serious minded, you know, that's him.

476
00:23:12,359 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: And he tells you that he feels most comfortable like that.

477
00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:19,920
Speaker 1: He's very poised, very steady, doesn't get rattled very often. Uh,

478
00:23:20,359 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 1: but you know there's a few times where, uh this year,

479
00:23:23,440 --> 00:23:26,400
Speaker 1: he would post a few things with the teammates dancing

480
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:27,879
Speaker 1: and it's fun to see, you know when he when

481
00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:30,200
Speaker 1: he does that, that's his personality. And the one thing

482
00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,600
Speaker 1: I appreciate about Justin is he doesn't try to be

483
00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 1: somebody else. He's He's true who he is, and it's

484
00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:42,120
Speaker 1: it's pretty good, you know, coach. I think this year

485
00:23:42,240 --> 00:23:45,160
Speaker 1: in the college football playoffs, semifinal. I think a lot

486
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:48,439
Speaker 1: of odds were awakened when we had a chance to

487
00:23:48,440 --> 00:23:53,119
Speaker 1: see Justin's talent, but also his toughness. Um and your experience,

488
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:56,480
Speaker 1: how often have you seen that toughness and competitive side

489
00:23:56,520 --> 00:23:58,480
Speaker 1: come out of him? I see it a lot. I

490
00:23:58,520 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: think he's one of the more competitively of guys I've

491
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,200
Speaker 1: been around. And he only really missed two snaps that

492
00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:06,920
Speaker 1: I can remember, and there's two years here. One was

493
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: when he took a shot on his knee and sprained

494
00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:10,199
Speaker 1: his m cl and the team North game and the

495
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:12,040
Speaker 1: next player came in and throw a touchdown past the

496
00:24:12,080 --> 00:24:14,240
Speaker 1: Garret Wilson in the back of the end zone, and

497
00:24:14,280 --> 00:24:16,639
Speaker 1: then the Shotty took it Clemson. The thing that I

498
00:24:16,680 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 1: appreciate though, that I attribute a lot of the trades

499
00:24:19,760 --> 00:24:22,360
Speaker 1: of the successful quarterbacks whove on to the NFL are

500
00:24:22,359 --> 00:24:25,040
Speaker 1: ones that can overcome adversity, that go through tough times.

501
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:27,480
Speaker 1: And I think Justin went through adversity, through the whole

502
00:24:27,480 --> 00:24:31,199
Speaker 1: Georgia thing getting here, changing schools. But then also you know,

503
00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:34,280
Speaker 1: he he'd admit to you that he wasn't the best

504
00:24:34,359 --> 00:24:37,680
Speaker 1: version of himself and in Indiana and really Northwestern was clunky, game,

505
00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:40,040
Speaker 1: and so he needed to respond and come out of that,

506
00:24:40,080 --> 00:24:42,480
Speaker 1: because that's a huge deal with quarterbacks is how do

507
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: you respond when you have a bad game? And and

508
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,680
Speaker 1: the way he responded in that game in the biggest

509
00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:50,440
Speaker 1: moment was you know, six touchdowns and he wasn't gonna

510
00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:52,840
Speaker 1: be denied. I mean, I can't tell you as many

511
00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:54,600
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that I've been around that would take a shot

512
00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 1: like that and come back in uh in a play

513
00:24:57,119 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 1: and throw a touchdown pass and go on to play

514
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:08,199
Speaker 1: the way he did fail and then go on and

515
00:25:08,240 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: play in the National Championship game banged up without really

516
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 1: practicing much. So this is a tough, tough guy who

517
00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: has been very dependable for US. Coach. You've you've been

518
00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:19,720
Speaker 1: an expert in this position for a long time. You've

519
00:25:19,760 --> 00:25:22,320
Speaker 1: coached it at the NFL level with that position. To me,

520
00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,119
Speaker 1: when I went back and watched the tape of the

521
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,800
Speaker 1: National Championship game, even though the you know, the win

522
00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,679
Speaker 1: wasn't there, I came away thinking that was almost as

523
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,600
Speaker 1: impressive as what we saw in the Clemson game. What

524
00:25:31,640 --> 00:25:33,960
Speaker 1: was your evaluation of how he played and given the

525
00:25:34,000 --> 00:25:35,520
Speaker 1: fact that you just mentioned he was beat up in

526
00:25:35,560 --> 00:25:37,600
Speaker 1: that game against Bama. He played better than I thought

527
00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:40,160
Speaker 1: he would. He really didn't practice much at all. Sure

528
00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: he was gonna be able to play in the game,

529
00:25:41,320 --> 00:25:44,439
Speaker 1: to be very honest, and we had one padded practice

530
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: that really didn't He wasn't a part of going into

531
00:25:46,359 --> 00:25:49,280
Speaker 1: that game. So the timing and everything about that going

532
00:25:49,320 --> 00:25:51,480
Speaker 1: into that game was not something we felt comfortable with.

533
00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:54,720
Speaker 1: And uh, and I would go back it, like you said,

534
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:57,480
Speaker 1: watching the film, with all those things against him, he

535
00:25:57,520 --> 00:25:59,680
Speaker 1: did have really good snaps. He played well in that game.

536
00:25:59,680 --> 00:26:01,960
Speaker 1: He didn't take chances, had a couple of big runs.

537
00:26:02,000 --> 00:26:04,960
Speaker 1: They'll pull a nice really nice throws and uh, you know,

538
00:26:05,000 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 1: in a different time, in a different setting, who knows

539
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:09,320
Speaker 1: what that would have looked like. But I thought he

540
00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:11,320
Speaker 1: competed and he always has done that. I've never seen

541
00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,280
Speaker 1: him not. And um no, again, when you just watch

542
00:26:14,359 --> 00:26:16,800
Speaker 1: the film against a good defense and a really good team,

543
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 1: obviously he played well. You know, a coach, because you

544
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:22,000
Speaker 1: spend time in the National Football League and you you

545
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: got a chance to take justin basically from scratch and

546
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:28,439
Speaker 1: kind of build him into this player. In the offense,

547
00:26:28,440 --> 00:26:30,200
Speaker 1: if you're in the National Football League, what kind of

548
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:34,440
Speaker 1: offensive scheme or system would you think would maximize his talents.

549
00:26:34,560 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 1: I think early on, um, you know, an offense that

550
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,080
Speaker 1: is you know, run play action, get him on the move.

551
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,800
Speaker 1: He's really good out of the pocket. Um, you know,

552
00:26:43,840 --> 00:26:47,400
Speaker 1: controlled passing game. And and then as time goes on

553
00:26:47,560 --> 00:26:49,800
Speaker 1: and he starts to feel more and more comfortable in

554
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: the pocket with the third down and red zone and uh,

555
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:56,320
Speaker 1: drop back passing concepts, he'll he'll continue to just build

556
00:26:56,320 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: and more reps he gets to that the better. But

557
00:26:58,840 --> 00:27:01,600
Speaker 1: but like any time you have a young quarterback, I

558
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,879
Speaker 1: think things where he's on the move and athletic and

559
00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,399
Speaker 1: given the ability to make plays outside of the pocket,

560
00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:08,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be exciting to watch. Um. The other

561
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:10,840
Speaker 1: thing part of his game is when you study him

562
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,280
Speaker 1: in the red zone, he's really good down there. And

563
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: so if we can, you know, find ways we always

564
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 1: felt like we could find ways to get the thing

565
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 1: into the red zone that he was really good down there.

566
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:21,280
Speaker 1: And so I think any kind of offense that is

567
00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:22,520
Speaker 1: going to be able to put him in those type

568
00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: of situations, um, you know he's gonna do well early on.

569
00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: And uh, this is a guy who hasn't played a

570
00:27:28,280 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 1: whole lot of football. When you look at the grand

571
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:32,720
Speaker 1: body of work that he's had, and I think the

572
00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,520
Speaker 1: potentials through the roof. You look at when he did

573
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:37,200
Speaker 1: in the red zone, as you just mentioned, you look

574
00:27:37,240 --> 00:27:39,080
Speaker 1: at what guys do on third downs to me, and

575
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:42,399
Speaker 1: usually that points to the preparation process. How would you

576
00:27:42,440 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: describe the work that Justin puts in and the preparation

577
00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: aspect of playing that position. Yeah. One thing about Justin

578
00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:49,720
Speaker 1: in the meeting room is you don't have to tell

579
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: him something twice. He really picks things up quickly, and um,

580
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 1: you know, his recall is very similar to Joe Burrow

581
00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: when you know, I was, I was here with Joe.

582
00:27:59,119 --> 00:28:01,639
Speaker 1: He just understands things and they can take it to

583
00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: the field very quickly. And I think that's a that's

584
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,879
Speaker 1: a trait that, um, you know, not a lot of

585
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,879
Speaker 1: people have. And I think the one thing too that

586
00:28:09,920 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 1: he does a good job of us He can visualize

587
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:14,439
Speaker 1: a play on if you put it up on the

588
00:28:14,440 --> 00:28:16,840
Speaker 1: screen and then talk about, well what if they do this,

589
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 1: what if they do that? You know, and he's already

590
00:28:18,840 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 1: thinking about the different coveries that may show up. I think, Um,

591
00:28:22,280 --> 00:28:24,280
Speaker 1: you know, when you're young, when you have young quarterbacks,

592
00:28:24,280 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: a lot of times you'll put a play in and

593
00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,600
Speaker 1: they'll go put it on the field, and then they'll

594
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,240
Speaker 1: see a coverage and they'll say, okay, so what do

595
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: you want me to do against cover two? Or what

596
00:28:31,880 --> 00:28:33,600
Speaker 1: do you want me to do when they brought zero pressure?

597
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,680
Speaker 1: You know, and I think the real good quarterbacks I've

598
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,440
Speaker 1: already figured that out before they walk on the field,

599
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: even if it's a new concept, and he's done that.

600
00:28:40,760 --> 00:28:42,760
Speaker 1: He did that from when he got here, and if

601
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 1: he continues to do that in the NFL, then you

602
00:28:44,880 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: know he's gonna have a lot of good, good plays

603
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:50,120
Speaker 1: and in certainly good games. Being the quarterback at the

604
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 1: Ohio State University is a kid to be in a

605
00:28:52,120 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 1: franchise quarterback and so I would like to think that

606
00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: you probably expect him to act like a franchise quarterback

607
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: by setting the example for his teammates with his work,

608
00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 1: ethic and leadership. How did he hand the responsibilities of

609
00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: being the franchise quarterback at Ohio State? First off, he

610
00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,280
Speaker 1: did everything the right way. Um, you know, you never

611
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: heard about justin being out on town. You never heard

612
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,240
Speaker 1: of him, Um, you know, not getting his rest or

613
00:29:13,240 --> 00:29:16,400
Speaker 1: showing up in the building, unprepared. Uh. He was one

614
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:18,520
Speaker 1: of the first guys in working with making the weight room.

615
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:22,520
Speaker 1: He loves the weight room. Um. And I thought he

616
00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:26,960
Speaker 1: handled the spotlight here very well. You know, he isolated

617
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,800
Speaker 1: himself in the most part and didn't expose himself to

618
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:32,440
Speaker 1: a lot of the things that come outside. I thought

619
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: he handled himself with the media really really well. Uh,

620
00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: you know, really talks about his teammates more than he

621
00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 1: would talk about himself. Um. He was built for that.

622
00:29:42,680 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 1: You know, I felt like early on, some guys get overwhelmed.

623
00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:48,200
Speaker 1: He was built for that, for for being, like you said,

624
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 1: a franchise quarterback. And you saw that here in in

625
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:53,360
Speaker 1: a short period of time. And you know, even when

626
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,360
Speaker 1: he had to set back last year against Clemson, we

627
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:57,880
Speaker 1: lost that game in a two minute drill. Um. I

628
00:29:57,880 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: thought he handled that with with poise. And then all

629
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:02,800
Speaker 1: he did was just you know, spend really the next

630
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: three and sixty whatever days it was to get back

631
00:30:05,280 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 1: to that game, and that's where the focus was so

632
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:11,840
Speaker 1: uh really well. And you know, some guys get overwhelmed,

633
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: some guys, you know, expose themselves to different things. I

634
00:30:15,000 --> 00:30:18,080
Speaker 1: thought he did a great job coach. Last question from

635
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: me just have a coach in the NFL and haven't

636
00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 1: coached justin what what would be kind of your your

637
00:30:23,400 --> 00:30:25,640
Speaker 1: parting words of advice there for him as he goes

638
00:30:25,680 --> 00:30:29,000
Speaker 1: on this on this journey to the next level. That

639
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,840
Speaker 1: first off, you know we've talked about this before, is

640
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:33,800
Speaker 1: that you know, he has to continue to be himself.

641
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: He's got to push the envelope. UM. He has to

642
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,960
Speaker 1: have urgency. He can't sit around and take a backseat

643
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: to anybody. But at the same time, there's gonna be

644
00:30:42,640 --> 00:30:45,600
Speaker 1: bun and you know how you handle those ups and

645
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Speaker 1: downs are gonna be critical to your longevity in the league.

646
00:30:49,000 --> 00:30:51,120
Speaker 1: You know, they're gonna have good games, and you can't

647
00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: all of a sudden show up the next week when

648
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 1: you have a great game thinking that you've made it,

649
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:57,680
Speaker 1: because you're gonna get that you haven't made it, you know,

650
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:00,760
Speaker 1: and you're gonna get some humble pie and league. And

651
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,640
Speaker 1: then the same same token, if you have a bad game,

652
00:31:03,960 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 1: you all of a sudden can't fall apart and self

653
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:08,560
Speaker 1: destruct and you have to be steady. And that's what

654
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: he is like. He doesn't typically ride the emotional roller coaster. UM,

655
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,600
Speaker 1: So it's gonna take a lot of hard work. There's

656
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:15,280
Speaker 1: gonna be a lot of people who are coming after him.

657
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:18,080
Speaker 1: That's the way it goes in that league. And um,

658
00:31:18,120 --> 00:31:20,760
Speaker 1: you know, not only in his position, but just across

659
00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:22,959
Speaker 1: the board. I mean, it's just a very very competitive,

660
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 1: unforgiving league. And understanding all those things going in, UM,

661
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 1: I think he does. But you know, he's not a

662
00:31:31,720 --> 00:31:34,400
Speaker 1: finished product. He isn't. He knows that he's got a

663
00:31:34,480 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: huge ceiling. It's gonna be fun to watch, all right, Buck,

664
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: what was your your biggest takeaway there from that conversation.

665
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:44,880
Speaker 1: My biggest takeaway is just how he recognized the talent

666
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:48,400
Speaker 1: level immediate lee and how he just wanted to see

667
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: how they can maximize those skills. And then the big

668
00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:54,200
Speaker 1: thing was the toughness. How he displayed the toughness that

669
00:31:54,240 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 1: we all covet in quarterbacks and how Ryan Day was

670
00:31:57,520 --> 00:32:00,120
Speaker 1: able to kind of get a first hand view of

671
00:32:00,160 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: that in the College Football Playoff this year against Clemson.

672
00:32:03,720 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 1: And so we can talk a lot about a bunch

673
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:08,160
Speaker 1: of different things that Justin Fields brings to the table

674
00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 1: as a quarterback. That exhibition of toughness, UM is one

675
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,040
Speaker 1: of those things that a lot of evaluateds were really

676
00:32:15,080 --> 00:32:17,480
Speaker 1: hang onto because you have to be a tough guy

677
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:19,640
Speaker 1: to play this position in the pros. Yeah, I think

678
00:32:19,680 --> 00:32:21,800
Speaker 1: that's a huge that's a great point. It's huge in

679
00:32:21,840 --> 00:32:24,520
Speaker 1: the evaluation process. Something that we've heard urban Meyer talk

680
00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:26,560
Speaker 1: about in the past is just how key that toughness

681
00:32:26,560 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 1: and greeting is. And there's no question when you watch

682
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:30,840
Speaker 1: that Clemson game and see the shot that he took

683
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: and him coming back out there, um about his toughness,

684
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:36,240
Speaker 1: his competitiveness. The other thing that stood out to me

685
00:32:36,320 --> 00:32:38,520
Speaker 1: about the recall, and that goes back to our Patrick

686
00:32:38,520 --> 00:32:40,959
Speaker 1: Mahomes you know, conversation when he came into the studio

687
00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,080
Speaker 1: that draft year or we both kind of were a

688
00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:45,680
Speaker 1: little bit skeptical on how that was gonna work with

689
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 1: him going forward because he was so raw, and then

690
00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:50,239
Speaker 1: the recall that he had when we're visiting with him,

691
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: we're like, WHOA, Okay, this is different. This is a

692
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: smart dude, man, and uh and justin Fields, having that

693
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:57,920
Speaker 1: recall is going to serve him very well. Absolutely is

694
00:32:57,960 --> 00:33:01,040
Speaker 1: being able to understand the picture, is being able to

695
00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:03,920
Speaker 1: take past moments and learn from those and pull those

696
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: moments out when you're in the middle of a game

697
00:33:06,800 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 1: and something similar reappears. That recall is critical. And we've

698
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: been around a bunch of great quarterbacks. We've talked to him,

699
00:33:13,520 --> 00:33:16,760
Speaker 1: we've interviewed him and and and that is kind of

700
00:33:16,800 --> 00:33:20,120
Speaker 1: a common threat that they have the ability to to

701
00:33:20,280 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 1: remember an old experience and to utilize the lessons learn

702
00:33:24,280 --> 00:33:26,800
Speaker 1: from that experience to make them a better player in

703
00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:30,280
Speaker 1: the moment. So Justin Field certainly displays that ability. Now, well,

704
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: we're gonna keep this theme going here about some of

705
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 1: the toughness, because that's what came up in your conversation

706
00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,600
Speaker 1: with Super Bowl winning head coach Trent Dilford, who's been

707
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 1: around Justin for a long time, Uh, going back to

708
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 1: to the Elite eleven days there in seventeen. So here's

709
00:33:44,000 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 1: your chat with Trent. What were your first thoughts when

710
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,160
Speaker 1: you saw Justin Fields for the first time? Rare rare

711
00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:57,240
Speaker 1: physical specimen. Uh. You know, his his size, his power output,

712
00:33:58,120 --> 00:34:02,080
Speaker 1: his speed and he's a true berner. Uh and then

713
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:04,920
Speaker 1: a craftsman like you don't. Most of those guys are

714
00:34:04,920 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 1: the butcher they you know, they have a big machetting.

715
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:09,960
Speaker 1: They chop up me and they make you for astronomy

716
00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:13,480
Speaker 1: sandwich Like they're not real precise. Very rarely do you

717
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:16,640
Speaker 1: find these specimens. They are also surgeons. They know how

718
00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,400
Speaker 1: to handle the tiniest tool that can save your life.

719
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:24,080
Speaker 1: And he really approaches his craft with a burning desire

720
00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:27,960
Speaker 1: to get better. He's been working with quins forever in Atlanta. Uh,

721
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:33,400
Speaker 1: he's he's always working on becoming more efficient as a passer. UH.

722
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 1: Show really showed up. Uh in the playoff game against Clemson.

723
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:45,840
Speaker 1: You saw the nuance to his game. Uh. He's a

724
00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:51,120
Speaker 1: guy that is can physically do everything, but doesn't rely

725
00:34:51,400 --> 00:34:53,839
Speaker 1: on that all the time. So he's a passer as

726
00:34:53,880 --> 00:34:56,439
Speaker 1: long as he can be a passer, and then he'll

727
00:34:56,480 --> 00:34:59,440
Speaker 1: become an athlete. I think in the NFL, with you

728
00:34:59,480 --> 00:35:03,399
Speaker 1: know quarter back UH design runs. You don't use them

729
00:35:03,440 --> 00:35:05,120
Speaker 1: a lot, but when you use them, you tend to

730
00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,240
Speaker 1: see walk in touchdowns by Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers

731
00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,239
Speaker 1: or whoever it is. I think he could be a

732
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:12,399
Speaker 1: weapon that way. They don't think that's being talked enough

733
00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: about with him. Is that to separate him from some

734
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,640
Speaker 1: of the other guys. Uh, that's a huge advantage in

735
00:35:18,680 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: the tight red short yardage in the game situation. I mean,

736
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:23,480
Speaker 1: how many one score games you see in the NFL

737
00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:26,359
Speaker 1: where you're in a four minute situation and it's third

738
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 1: and four and if you get the first down, you

739
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:30,799
Speaker 1: win the game. If you don't, you punt. You gotta

740
00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,359
Speaker 1: punt it to Aaron Rodgers and he's got fifty eight

741
00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: seconds left in the game to beat you. Like. That's

742
00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,720
Speaker 1: where these quarterback driven runs are really hard to defend.

743
00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,000
Speaker 1: I think Justin's a massive weapon in that he's a

744
00:35:42,040 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: tough guy. I think that's something is not nearly I've

745
00:35:45,080 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 1: read through all these evaluations of these players, and everybody

746
00:35:49,120 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: has a lot of good stuff to say, the one

747
00:35:51,120 --> 00:35:54,600
Speaker 1: biggest thing that looks in their evaluation is their toughness. Uh.

748
00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 1: This is a position where you have to be a

749
00:35:56,440 --> 00:36:01,319
Speaker 1: tough guy physically and mentally. He's a tough man, tough guy. Uh.

750
00:36:01,480 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 1: People will point to the playoff and say, oh, yeah,

751
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:06,879
Speaker 1: we saw a plan jured it's more than that. It's

752
00:36:06,960 --> 00:36:11,040
Speaker 1: the mental emotional resolve that he's showing through his high

753
00:36:11,080 --> 00:36:14,000
Speaker 1: school years, his college years, what happened to him at Georgia,

754
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,839
Speaker 1: the transferred to Ohio State, negative talk around him, all

755
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: the different things that has happened in his in his life.

756
00:36:20,440 --> 00:36:23,359
Speaker 1: He is He's developed a grit and resolve in a

757
00:36:23,400 --> 00:36:26,799
Speaker 1: toughness that I will stamp it right now. He'll be

758
00:36:26,840 --> 00:36:29,799
Speaker 1: a wild success in the NFL because of that. You know,

759
00:36:29,840 --> 00:36:33,400
Speaker 1: it's funny because um, with the Justin Fields evaluation, I

760
00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:36,600
Speaker 1: feel like people are missing the it factor, the special

761
00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: qualities that he's displayed in high school and somtimes that

762
00:36:39,800 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 1: we've been around him. When you look at him, do

763
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:45,560
Speaker 1: you see the IT factor in Justin Fields? In his game? Absolutely?

764
00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:49,600
Speaker 1: He has, you know, the in factor. We did a

765
00:36:49,600 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: whole show on it. It's very hard to quantify, but

766
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:57,320
Speaker 1: you feel it. It's very hard to write it down

767
00:36:57,480 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: what it is, yet you see it. I think you

768
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:02,960
Speaker 1: have to be around the position a lot. I think

769
00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 1: if you're around Team Dynamics a lot, you have to

770
00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:07,839
Speaker 1: kind of know. You have to have some insider information

771
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:13,000
Speaker 1: from his coaches, his teammates both at Georgian Ohio State,

772
00:37:13,040 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 1: going back to high school. I think you need to

773
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,359
Speaker 1: have a little context. Uh, this is a kid that's

774
00:37:17,400 --> 00:37:19,319
Speaker 1: always had the it. We spent a lot of time

775
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,080
Speaker 1: with him as a counselor this summer at a leade eleven.

776
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 1: They have that it quality where they make everybody around

777
00:37:25,640 --> 00:37:29,160
Speaker 1: them better. Uh. There's a humility to them, even though

778
00:37:29,200 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 1: they have every reason to be brash and and arrogant. Uh.

779
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,399
Speaker 1: There's a there's a quality to where they always want

780
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 1: to learn, but yet they're confident. They don't doubt what

781
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:41,160
Speaker 1: they've learned already, but want to learn more. Uh. There's

782
00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,720
Speaker 1: a bunch of elements to this, but yeah, Justin has it, uh,

783
00:37:44,760 --> 00:37:47,480
Speaker 1: and he's got more of it than you need. And

784
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: he's he's exciting prospect because the physical traits, the mental,

785
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:55,440
Speaker 1: emotional traits, and then let's call him the it traits

786
00:37:55,480 --> 00:37:59,120
Speaker 1: the hit factor buck again. I just you know, we

787
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: start getting theme. So when we do these three sixty episodes,

788
00:38:01,640 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 1: you start to develop themes when you get different people

789
00:38:04,280 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: saying the same thing. And I love the fact that

790
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,640
Speaker 1: toughness is part of the d NA here of Justin Fields. Yeah,

791
00:38:09,760 --> 00:38:11,640
Speaker 1: toughness has to be a big part of it, and

792
00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 1: it is a part of who he is now. Some

793
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:16,520
Speaker 1: of that could be from his background coming up dad

794
00:38:16,560 --> 00:38:18,440
Speaker 1: as a former marine and a coff and so he

795
00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 1: got that tough love in the house and so he competes.

796
00:38:21,120 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 1: He's a competitor, and I think all competitors have a

797
00:38:23,360 --> 00:38:26,360
Speaker 1: level of toughness and grit that sustains them in in

798
00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:29,400
Speaker 1: really challenging moments in circumstances. And we've seen that on

799
00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 1: a few occasions from Justin Fields, and there are a

800
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: lot of coaches that are uh testifying to his ability

801
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 1: to be one to tougher guys, no doubt. Um, all right,

802
00:38:38,360 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: this next guest is one that I was excited to

803
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 1: hear you're gonna get a chance to visit with because

804
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,799
Speaker 1: somebody we've known of for a long time. I just

805
00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:47,719
Speaker 1: got a chance to visit with him meet him this

806
00:38:47,800 --> 00:38:50,279
Speaker 1: year for the first time and was so impressed. Uh

807
00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 1: with John Beck, a former quarterback at b y U

808
00:38:53,560 --> 00:38:56,480
Speaker 1: H was a second round pick to me, somebody that

809
00:38:56,840 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: has really emerged as one of the top voices in

810
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:00,480
Speaker 1: the quarterback space. It's done a really a good job

811
00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:03,120
Speaker 1: with a lot of existing veteran guys as well as

812
00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: working with some of these younger quarterbacks. Um, you had

813
00:39:05,600 --> 00:39:07,600
Speaker 1: a chance to visit with him because he's been working

814
00:39:08,120 --> 00:39:11,319
Speaker 1: with Justin Fields at the three DQB Training Company. UM,

815
00:39:11,360 --> 00:39:15,160
Speaker 1: so here's your chat with John Beck. Would have been

816
00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 1: your impressions of Justin Since you guys have connected, he's

817
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:22,040
Speaker 1: been great I've enjoyed every day I've had Justin out there. Um,

818
00:39:22,080 --> 00:39:23,800
Speaker 1: you know, from the minute he came in. I didn't

819
00:39:23,800 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 1: have a chance to work with him before. So like

820
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:28,799
Speaker 1: most times, you know, I watch a guy played during

821
00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: the season, I see him play in this huge game

822
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,879
Speaker 1: against Clemson and just absolutely just take over the game

823
00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,040
Speaker 1: and play amazing and do it through injury as well.

824
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,440
Speaker 1: And you watch it on tape and you're wowed by

825
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:39,719
Speaker 1: a lot of things. And then you get to see

826
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:42,200
Speaker 1: him in person, you get to meet him, and he's focused,

827
00:39:42,200 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 1: and he's determined, and he works hard and he comes

828
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 1: out here, he competes, and it's been a really cool

829
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:51,360
Speaker 1: situation to have Zach Justin. We also have Kyle Trask,

830
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:54,279
Speaker 1: and these guys get out here every single day, and

831
00:39:54,320 --> 00:39:56,360
Speaker 1: we have k J. Costello as well, the Stanford transferred

832
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,600
Speaker 1: Mississippi State. But these guys get out here and I

833
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,319
Speaker 1: mean it is just a competition every single day. And

834
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:04,440
Speaker 1: you can see why a guy like Justin Fields was

835
00:40:04,480 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: able to play on such a big stage. You can

836
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:10,160
Speaker 1: see why when he goes in a playoff game versus Clemson, Uh,

837
00:40:10,200 --> 00:40:17,359
Speaker 1: he wants that. He wants those moments and it's been

838
00:40:17,400 --> 00:40:19,320
Speaker 1: an awesome experience for me to be around him, to

839
00:40:19,360 --> 00:40:21,000
Speaker 1: be in the film room, to get up on the

840
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,279
Speaker 1: whiteboard and talk through everything. You know, the team that

841
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: gets Justin is gonna really like what he brings to

842
00:40:25,040 --> 00:40:27,480
Speaker 1: the table. What is the one thing that might have

843
00:40:27,520 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 1: surprised you about Justin upon meeting him. I did not

844
00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:34,640
Speaker 1: know that Justin had a background in baseball. And Justin's

845
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,880
Speaker 1: a very athletic guy. Like you watch him on tape

846
00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:41,080
Speaker 1: and you just see this strong, powerful, like so hard

847
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,280
Speaker 1: to bring down in the pocket. I was so impressed

848
00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,600
Speaker 1: when I got to talk through with him what he

849
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,879
Speaker 1: was going through, what he's having to process, and then

850
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: his ability to make plays. And I mean, he just

851
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:51,520
Speaker 1: looks the part of a guy that when he walks

852
00:40:51,520 --> 00:40:54,520
Speaker 1: in the locker room, you're like alpha. That dude just

853
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,520
Speaker 1: looks apart. But it was so cool for me to

854
00:40:56,560 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 1: know the backstory of his life, just how involved he

855
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,080
Speaker 1: was in baseball, how much big he's probably played to

856
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:04,240
Speaker 1: me right off the bat that just as a coach,

857
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:06,319
Speaker 1: I see, Wow, there's so much I can do with

858
00:41:06,360 --> 00:41:09,920
Speaker 1: that background, all all these guys that come from other sports.

859
00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:12,440
Speaker 1: Immediately you know, oh my gosh, if he has this

860
00:41:12,480 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: in his background. Here's what I can do if he

861
00:41:14,080 --> 00:41:16,439
Speaker 1: has this in his background. So it's been really cool

862
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:18,640
Speaker 1: to know that about Justin and push him in some

863
00:41:18,800 --> 00:41:22,759
Speaker 1: areas because he can make those off script, you know,

864
00:41:23,239 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: sliding left to make those tough throws because of that

865
00:41:25,719 --> 00:41:28,279
Speaker 1: background that he has. And so to me, that was

866
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 1: a really cool thing to figure out and then apply

867
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,600
Speaker 1: that to our practice field and some of our workouts

868
00:41:33,640 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: for guys like like Justin Fields. I had watched him,

869
00:41:37,160 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 1: you know, through these last couple of years. I knew

870
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:40,600
Speaker 1: about him when he went to Georgia, but I don't

871
00:41:40,600 --> 00:41:42,960
Speaker 1: have that interaction with him until he gets here. And

872
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,880
Speaker 1: just watching the way that he approaches things. He's already

873
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:49,200
Speaker 1: approaching things like a true professional. Uh. He's here early.

874
00:41:49,440 --> 00:41:51,759
Speaker 1: He asked to get extra time in. You know, he

875
00:41:51,760 --> 00:41:54,920
Speaker 1: gets an opportunity to to to prepare for his interviews,

876
00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: and he calls me on the phone and says, hey,

877
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:58,640
Speaker 1: can you help me kind of prepare this offense? Can

878
00:41:58,680 --> 00:42:00,279
Speaker 1: you can, like, can we go over this again? Because

879
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:03,480
Speaker 1: I want to nail it. I love more of that

880
00:42:03,560 --> 00:42:07,080
Speaker 1: baseball conversation. You know, Buck demands a positive, right, there's

881
00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: a lot of positives you take from that. And we

882
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,440
Speaker 1: talked earlier. You mentioned you know, Matthew Stafford, and you

883
00:42:12,440 --> 00:42:15,799
Speaker 1: talk about Kyler Murray and Baker Mayfield's baseball. But to me,

884
00:42:16,040 --> 00:42:18,200
Speaker 1: let's go back to John Elway for crying out loud.

885
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,399
Speaker 1: I mean, this is not a this's not a bad

886
00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,160
Speaker 1: thing to have that baseball in your background. I think

887
00:42:22,200 --> 00:42:25,120
Speaker 1: John Beck get a good job explaining that. Yeah, explaining it.

888
00:42:25,200 --> 00:42:27,440
Speaker 1: I think the bigger thing was John Beck talking about

889
00:42:27,480 --> 00:42:31,799
Speaker 1: the alpha personality that Justin Fields displays when he kind

890
00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 1: of walks into the room. He walks in with the

891
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:36,279
Speaker 1: level of confidence that you can tell he's an alpha guy.

892
00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,040
Speaker 1: He doesn't shrink the fact that they were working together

893
00:42:39,040 --> 00:42:41,960
Speaker 1: with a bunch of notable quarterback Zach Wilson, Cal Trost,

894
00:42:42,480 --> 00:42:44,719
Speaker 1: h K. J. Costello, guys that he's known along the way,

895
00:42:44,760 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: but also guys that he's kind of competing with in

896
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 1: terms of where they're going to stack in the pecking water. Um.

897
00:42:50,600 --> 00:42:52,560
Speaker 1: I like hearing those things. I like hearing those guys

898
00:42:52,880 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: are competitive, but it's not combative. They're able to kind

899
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: of get their work done, but you you always want

900
00:42:57,960 --> 00:43:00,440
Speaker 1: to one up the next guy. You like that. I

901
00:43:00,480 --> 00:43:03,680
Speaker 1: like competitors at the position. Also like tough guys, no doubt.

902
00:43:03,760 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: All right, let's get to a couple of teammates here,

903
00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:10,280
Speaker 1: one current and one former, both play the same position.

904
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 1: We've got Trade Sermon and j K. Dobbins coming up

905
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 1: here in a second. But let's let's start off first

906
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 1: of all with your conversation with Ohio State running back

907
00:43:17,080 --> 00:43:21,359
Speaker 1: Trey Sermon. You know, so how you stay You guys

908
00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,480
Speaker 1: put on a tremendous run, you win the Big Ten,

909
00:43:23,640 --> 00:43:26,640
Speaker 1: you go into the college football playoff. Uh, your quarterback

910
00:43:26,760 --> 00:43:30,760
Speaker 1: Justin Fields has a tremendous game in the semifinal as

911
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 1: you did as well. Um, when you're playing with a

912
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 1: guy like Justin Fields in the backfield, what is it

913
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,520
Speaker 1: about him? How is he as a leader? He's a

914
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 1: great leader. Um, I mean he stepped up all the time.

915
00:43:42,120 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 1: I mean justin encourage guys, get guys going. Um, if

916
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 1: you feel like we can be better, I mean he's

917
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: going to speak up and and and tell us. And

918
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,480
Speaker 1: he also leads by example. I mean he he again,

919
00:43:53,520 --> 00:43:56,799
Speaker 1: he's a great guy, and I mean he plays extremely well.

920
00:43:56,920 --> 00:43:59,560
Speaker 1: So I mean we see our quarterback playing well, I

921
00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,400
Speaker 1: mean we want to help him out as much as

922
00:44:01,440 --> 00:44:05,160
Speaker 1: we can. Yeah, I would say buck probably more by

923
00:44:05,200 --> 00:44:07,880
Speaker 1: example than vocal. That doesn't really surprise me, right, you

924
00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: know that's something that uh, um, that you seem to

925
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:12,400
Speaker 1: get when you talk to other folks, which I'm perfectly

926
00:44:12,440 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 1: fine with. Yeah, I am too, because I think, uh

927
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: Justin has been very very out spoken about his introverted

928
00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,520
Speaker 1: demeanor in nature and persona. It's not a very natural,

929
00:44:25,400 --> 00:44:27,800
Speaker 1: outgoing or whatever guy. But he wants to just go

930
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:30,279
Speaker 1: into the work and he hopes that by doing the

931
00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 1: work and sending the example, his teammates will follow. And

932
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,520
Speaker 1: to this point, we've seen it. We've seen it on

933
00:44:34,600 --> 00:44:38,600
Speaker 1: big stages. His teammates have been able to uh rise,

934
00:44:39,000 --> 00:44:40,920
Speaker 1: raise up their level of play, and some of that

935
00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:42,759
Speaker 1: is due to Justin Field has been able to take

936
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:45,560
Speaker 1: his game up and notes no doubt. Um. I mentioned

937
00:44:45,560 --> 00:44:47,759
Speaker 1: a couple of running backs here. Um. You also had

938
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: a chance to visit with the former Ohio State running

939
00:44:50,680 --> 00:44:53,720
Speaker 1: back and current Baltimore Raven running back J K. Dobbins

940
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: about his impressions of Justin Fields. You know, you think

941
00:44:58,400 --> 00:45:01,440
Speaker 1: about the standard of late you guys have also been

942
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:04,120
Speaker 1: able to produce quarterbacks and so you played with Justin

943
00:45:04,160 --> 00:45:07,400
Speaker 1: Fields who is one of the top quarterbacks in this

944
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 1: year's draft. What makes Justin Field special as a player? Yes,

945
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:14,160
Speaker 1: So he's an all around guy. You know what I'm saying.

946
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: He's gonna work hard AND's gonna be the first thing

947
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:19,520
Speaker 1: last out. He's gonna trying to find an edge to

948
00:45:19,560 --> 00:45:21,719
Speaker 1: beat at his opponent. He's trying to win everything, you

949
00:45:21,760 --> 00:45:24,120
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. And then he's in the film room.

950
00:45:24,200 --> 00:45:27,279
Speaker 1: He's gonna study. He's gonna study, study, study, and then

951
00:45:27,360 --> 00:45:30,400
Speaker 1: like this god given talents. You see him. He's fast.

952
00:45:31,160 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: Then his arm talent, he can throw. He got a

953
00:45:33,360 --> 00:45:35,200
Speaker 1: rocky as an arm, you know what I'm saying. So

954
00:45:35,840 --> 00:45:38,400
Speaker 1: he just got it off, man, and he's gonna be

955
00:45:38,440 --> 00:45:40,880
Speaker 1: He's gonna be great. He's gonna be great. You know

956
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: a lot of what goes to playing successfully at quarterback

957
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: in the National Football League has to do with your

958
00:45:46,960 --> 00:45:50,000
Speaker 1: leadership ability. What kind of leadership qualities and trades to

959
00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 1: Justin Fields display. Yeah, he's a leader, you know what

960
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,239
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, when I his first year with me,

961
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:59,200
Speaker 1: he was new to the HIG state and he still

962
00:45:59,239 --> 00:46:02,200
Speaker 1: came in and us you can see him grow as

963
00:46:02,200 --> 00:46:03,560
Speaker 1: a leader. You know what I'm saying. He was a

964
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:05,120
Speaker 1: young guy, but he was growing as a leader, and

965
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:07,040
Speaker 1: towards the end of the year, he was leading the team,

966
00:46:07,080 --> 00:46:08,759
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And then this past year

967
00:46:09,680 --> 00:46:11,960
Speaker 1: you can just see it the guys he was commanding everyone.

968
00:46:12,000 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. He was that was his team,

969
00:46:14,239 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 1: you know what what I'm saying. And then like when he

970
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 1: gets hurt, he's coming back in. He's he's a he's

971
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:19,279
Speaker 1: a warrior. You know what I'm saying that. I feel

972
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,719
Speaker 1: like when guys either leader, you know, get hurt and

973
00:46:21,760 --> 00:46:23,200
Speaker 1: come back in and make him play hard, you know

974
00:46:23,239 --> 00:46:25,879
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. And that's what he brings to the table.

975
00:46:25,880 --> 00:46:29,359
Speaker 1: He's gonna gonna make everyone around him better and he's

976
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:31,040
Speaker 1: gonna leave. He's gonna make sure he's gonna try to

977
00:46:31,080 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 1: win that game. You know what I'm saying. For the team,

978
00:46:33,160 --> 00:46:34,880
Speaker 1: you know, it's funny because you have an opportunity to

979
00:46:34,880 --> 00:46:37,280
Speaker 1: play with the guy Lamar Jackson, who was a unique

980
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,880
Speaker 1: talent as a as a runner and a playmaker in

981
00:46:39,880 --> 00:46:43,759
Speaker 1: the backfield. Justin Fields has shown ability to run, but

982
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 1: he's also a special athlete. Um, what is his athleticism

983
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:49,960
Speaker 1: Like when you're in the backfield together. What is justin

984
00:46:50,000 --> 00:46:54,080
Speaker 1: Fields like as an athlete when you're playing beside him. Yeah, similar,

985
00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 1: similar to Lamar, but not as quick Lamar like a

986
00:46:58,200 --> 00:47:01,640
Speaker 1: Lamar is different in that area. You know what I'm saying, Mark,

987
00:47:01,760 --> 00:47:03,719
Speaker 1: you can do it all as well. The bar is

988
00:47:03,760 --> 00:47:05,799
Speaker 1: like lightning quick too, you know what I'm saying. But

989
00:47:05,840 --> 00:47:17,560
Speaker 1: justin field athleticism, he has it all. He's fast, he

990
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,720
Speaker 1: has the arm talent, and he also he's also stronger.

991
00:47:20,840 --> 00:47:23,640
Speaker 1: He's strong too. He can, he can. He might run

992
00:47:23,640 --> 00:47:26,600
Speaker 1: through some arm tackles two. You know what I'm saying.

993
00:47:26,680 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: He come through the whole or whatever. He gotta scramb

994
00:47:29,160 --> 00:47:31,040
Speaker 1: or something. He running through the arm tap. It's hard

995
00:47:31,040 --> 00:47:35,799
Speaker 1: to bring him down. Yeah, He's definitely gifted athletically. What

996
00:47:35,840 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 1: do you think buck big takeaway there from JK? Well,

997
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:40,840
Speaker 1: I think the big tekeaway is when j K. Dobbins

998
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:45,080
Speaker 1: made the comparison between Fields and Lamar Jackson. Obviously, he

999
00:47:45,200 --> 00:47:47,359
Speaker 1: is a front row ticket to see Lamar Jackson each

1000
00:47:47,400 --> 00:47:49,399
Speaker 1: and every week, and he talks about the explosive nonus

1001
00:47:49,400 --> 00:47:52,720
Speaker 1: and the speed and how he really complimented, uh feels

1002
00:47:52,680 --> 00:47:55,680
Speaker 1: are not necessarily being as fast, but just talking about

1003
00:47:55,680 --> 00:47:58,080
Speaker 1: how strong and how physical he is, being able to

1004
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:00,720
Speaker 1: run through arm tackles. I would say that that's probably

1005
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:04,440
Speaker 1: been an under utilized part of his game that you

1006
00:48:04,520 --> 00:48:06,720
Speaker 1: might just see a little more of in the pros

1007
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,360
Speaker 1: when we think about the quarterback run game and how

1008
00:48:09,600 --> 00:48:12,400
Speaker 1: effective it can be, particularly down near the red zone,

1009
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:17,799
Speaker 1: justin fields athleticism, his strength and toughness could enable an

1010
00:48:17,800 --> 00:48:21,560
Speaker 1: offensive coordinated to kind of put him in situations where

1011
00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: he can get those points on the board by utilizing

1012
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:25,839
Speaker 1: his legs as well as his arm. Yeah, he talked

1013
00:48:25,840 --> 00:48:28,520
Speaker 1: about just toughness and being a warrior. Um, those are

1014
00:48:28,560 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 1: great as a great traits again, Um, you know when

1015
00:48:31,560 --> 00:48:33,759
Speaker 1: we look at we look at Justin and we look

1016
00:48:33,800 --> 00:48:37,200
Speaker 1: at what he can be at the next level. Um buck,

1017
00:48:37,239 --> 00:48:40,560
Speaker 1: I think we've we've talked about this a lot of

1018
00:48:40,600 --> 00:48:42,560
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks that have come into the league and had

1019
00:48:42,640 --> 00:48:45,640
Speaker 1: success over the last five to ten years. You've got

1020
00:48:45,640 --> 00:48:47,680
Speaker 1: to be able to create and make some things happen

1021
00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:50,719
Speaker 1: with your legs while you're gaining the experience and the

1022
00:48:50,800 --> 00:48:53,400
Speaker 1: knowledge where you can win the game. You know, between

1023
00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:56,760
Speaker 1: your ears, he's going to get there. All these young quarterbacks,

1024
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,120
Speaker 1: you need time before you can get enough experience to

1025
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:02,720
Speaker 1: be able to play the game the way these veteran

1026
00:49:02,800 --> 00:49:05,319
Speaker 1: quarterbacks play it. But in the meantime, we've seen young

1027
00:49:05,400 --> 00:49:08,200
Speaker 1: quarterbacks coming and have success because they use their legs

1028
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:10,600
Speaker 1: to get out of trouble, um, they can create, they

1029
00:49:10,600 --> 00:49:13,399
Speaker 1: can make some things happen, and then the exciting part

1030
00:49:13,600 --> 00:49:16,520
Speaker 1: is when all of that knowledge collects to go along

1031
00:49:16,560 --> 00:49:19,040
Speaker 1: with the physical traits, then you see an explosion like

1032
00:49:19,080 --> 00:49:21,480
Speaker 1: we saw last year with Josh Allen. It's funny that

1033
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,319
Speaker 1: you bring him Josh Allen because I think that is

1034
00:49:23,360 --> 00:49:27,879
Speaker 1: the player that I would closely compare Justin Fields to. Uh.

1035
00:49:27,920 --> 00:49:30,479
Speaker 1: There's been a lot of conversation about Justin Fields maybe

1036
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,439
Speaker 1: sticking on his reads, being a little late um where

1037
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,040
Speaker 1: he can get to his third or fourth player into progression.

1038
00:49:36,600 --> 00:49:40,600
Speaker 1: But I would say his athleticism enhances or gives him

1039
00:49:40,600 --> 00:49:42,319
Speaker 1: an opportunity to be able to play at a high

1040
00:49:42,400 --> 00:49:45,759
Speaker 1: level despite having that as a flaw. And as we

1041
00:49:45,920 --> 00:49:50,319
Speaker 1: saw as we watched Josh Allen evolved and become one

1042
00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:53,080
Speaker 1: of the top quarterbacks in the league, I think you

1043
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: could see Justin Fields have a similar evolution to help

1044
00:49:56,760 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: him have high levels of success at next level. UM

1045
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:04,520
Speaker 1: I just think it's about creating a blueprint that allows

1046
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:07,000
Speaker 1: him to play to his strengths while he continues to

1047
00:50:07,040 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: refine his game and become the complete player that many

1048
00:50:09,320 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: of us think he can become. Yeah, I mean I think, Look,

1049
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 1: he's got a tremendous upside. Uh, there is a lot

1050
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,000
Speaker 1: to love about justin fields. I think, as with all

1051
00:50:18,040 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 1: these quarterbacks, be a little patient. Just be a little

1052
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 1: bit patient. Um, it's gonna pay off. It's gonna pay

1053
00:50:23,640 --> 00:50:26,040
Speaker 1: off in a big way for whoever drafts him and

1054
00:50:26,120 --> 00:50:28,280
Speaker 1: uh and where he ends up. We're excited to follow

1055
00:50:28,320 --> 00:50:30,800
Speaker 1: his career again, Bucky, You've known him going back to

1056
00:50:30,880 --> 00:50:33,680
Speaker 1: high school. He's an easy kid to root for. Um,

1057
00:50:33,719 --> 00:50:36,400
Speaker 1: and it's gonna be again fun to just follow his journey.

1058
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 1: Whoever gets him, Uh, gonna be very fortunate, and it's

1059
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,120
Speaker 1: gonna have a chance to have a special player for

1060
00:50:41,160 --> 00:50:44,120
Speaker 1: a long long time. And any other final thoughts here

1061
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:46,080
Speaker 1: as we wrap it up. No, I think he's one

1062
00:50:46,080 --> 00:50:48,920
Speaker 1: of the more talented players that we've seen come through. Um.

1063
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:53,960
Speaker 1: He's a unique duel thread playmaker with the size, speed,

1064
00:50:54,239 --> 00:50:57,560
Speaker 1: toughness and athleticism that you love while also having an

1065
00:50:57,600 --> 00:50:59,799
Speaker 1: arm talent. So depending on where he goes man, we

1066
00:50:59,800 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: could be talking about a guy who emerges as a superstar. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we cannot wait uh see how this all shakes out.

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Speaker 1: But I hope you guys have enjoyed it. Again, this

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Speaker 1: is one of a few. We've got a few episodes

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Speaker 1: this year on the three sixty series. Be sure to

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Speaker 1: check the others out. I think you will enjoy them

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Speaker 1: if you've enjoyed this one as much as we have

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Speaker 1: putting it together. So we appreciate you guys, thanks for

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Speaker 1: hanging with us today. This has been moved the Sticks

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Speaker 1: three sixty Justin Fields