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Speaker 2: That genuinely pissed me off to a level. It blew

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Speaker 3: All right, everyone behaved, Just kidding. It's Friday, Ron Todd,

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Speaker 2: We did it, Yeah, we did it.

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Speaker 4: Where are you, sir?

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Speaker 2: In the green void? Bro?

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Speaker 4: Hey, ken be That's why I was asking. He might

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Speaker 5: But he could be.

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Speaker 6: He could be, he could be. That is correct.

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Speaker 3: Hey, before we start and dive into some news, just

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Speaker 7: But yeah, that's real.

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Speaker 4: He's as real as they come. Man, he was he was.

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Speaker 4: He was being real. He's intense and you know he's

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Speaker 4: And he's been through some stuff, you know, on and

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Speaker 4: It was hard for him coming, you know, after that,

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Speaker 3: I liked that We're gonna have to have him back then,

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Speaker 3: So anyway, listen to that, and then we'll try and

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Speaker 3: bring him back when he's hitting three twenty mostly angels.

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Speaker 3: player of the year. We'll see what happens. All right,

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Speaker 3: Let's charge the damn Mount. We got news to hit

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Speaker 3: two signings and sorry, guys, Trevor gets to go first.

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Speaker 6: On both of these.

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Speaker 3: Okay, oh one, it's a picture. Max Sureser fifteen and

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Speaker 3: I got five hundred k more than you, Trevor. But

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Speaker 3: what do you think of the move?

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Speaker 1: First of all, yes, I think that he one hundred

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Speaker 2: The leader of the subcommittee for the PA.

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Speaker 1: So he's like, I have a job to do and

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Speaker 6: Well, the video cammer's not on you. They don't see

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Speaker 3: You got to remember that there's humans that listen to you,

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Speaker 7: I'm flexing because that's what Max Scherz did. Getting is

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Speaker 7: one hundred innings this year for this team. No, he's

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, well, I mean Todd father had a problem

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Speaker 7: You know, you know, but you know people from Jersey

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Speaker 7: if this stuff kind of gets done, yo, Todd, call

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Speaker 4: I did I want? There was only there's only one

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Speaker 3: Okay, so then let's bring this to the next layer here,

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Speaker 3: So Trevor, I'll let you answer too for us. One,

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Speaker 3: And two, now we can play this game with four people,

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Speaker 4: K is close enough.

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Speaker 3: Justin Verlander, Alex Cobb, Charlie Morton, Max Schurzer, all one

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Speaker 6: What do you think.

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Speaker 1: I would say, honestly, the only maybe change I would

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Speaker 1: Max Scherzer he signed second, so he's going to get more.

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Speaker 1: It's just the way it works. Like I like these.

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Speaker 1: they're just not that's a that's as little risk as

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Speaker 2: That way is a positive side in my opinion.

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Speaker 4: As an athlete, I care about what I put in

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Speaker 4: it's twenty twenty five, Todd.

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Speaker 3: Wait, I need him to rank though, Oh oh you

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go Verlander first. It's gonna get the most

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Speaker 1: value out of him. I'll go Verlander, Morton, Sureser Cop.

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Speaker 7: Morton's going to have the most innings, yes, But I

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Speaker 7: I'm saying I'm saying it's Sureser Morton because Morton is

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Speaker 7: Sureser last yeah, argued against yourself.

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Speaker 4: No, I had to write it down to remember who

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Speaker 5: He's figured it out.

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Speaker 5: Wow b because Trevor used all my words.

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Speaker 4: I got them number three and over the oils.

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Speaker 6: That's a hot take. Oh that's got a late night

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Speaker 3: Ask manuse my bad I like it. May I ask anything?

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Speaker 3: See what Trevor thinks, may ask anything?

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Speaker 2: Question mark?

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Speaker 1: Oh, I love keep them coming as many as you

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 5: My show is called huge crats.

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Speaker 6: We're gonna stick to ask may anything.

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Speaker 3: May I begin with the Mariners signing joy Hee Polanco

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Speaker 1: Unfortunately, I think he got the best offer there. Most likely,

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Speaker 7: Have you like, have you ever been in a situation

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Speaker 8: You step in the botox box, you trying to see

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard that from him.

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Speaker 1: It's like there's something with your death perception. There's just

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Speaker 1: you're not like lined up correctly or turned weird. So

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Speaker 1: we all know how baseball works. If you feel you're

437
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Speaker 1: like you're off by a centimeter, it feels like you've

438
00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,399
Speaker 1: never done that thing before. It's so little things like

439
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Speaker 1: this are important, and lefties don't complain about it near

440
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Speaker 1: as much as righty's, so there's something to it.

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Speaker 2: I believe that the numbers back this up.

442
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Speaker 1: That like the pitchers are also much better at home

443
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Speaker 1: than they are on the road. And there's another guy

444
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Speaker 1: that if we ever get him on the show, we

445
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Speaker 1: should ask him about it because he's got a crazy

446
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Speaker 1: split with strikeouts, Dylan Moore, who is about a thirty

447
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Speaker 1: percent strike for his career, which in my opinion is.

448
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Speaker 2: A little bit high.

449
00:21:03,440 --> 00:21:06,240
Speaker 1: Later like at home, it's like forty percent for like

450
00:21:06,280 --> 00:21:09,320
Speaker 1: his career, it goes way up. And he's a right

451
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Speaker 1: handed hitter, and he's just something. There's something about it

452
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Speaker 1: that people can't see. It's almost to the point where

453
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Speaker 1: I'm like, hey, maybe we need to like get some

454
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Speaker 1: sort of you know, matte whack material that absorbs lights

455
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Speaker 1: so there's never a glare, or like just change it

456
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Speaker 1: if you want your guys to hit, make it flush

457
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Speaker 1: with the rubber. It's just there's a lot going on.

458
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Speaker 1: And then you add like the marine layer and the

459
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Speaker 1: roof being closed or open, and the where the gaps

460
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Speaker 1: are on the roof and how the air comes in.

461
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Speaker 1: All that stuff is weird in every park with the

462
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Speaker 1: roof that is retractable. So all those things together make

463
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Speaker 1: it just a place that's a nightmare for a lot

464
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Speaker 1: of guys, and they just you just feel uncomfortable.

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Speaker 2: You just feel uncomfortable in the box.

466
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Speaker 1: So it's to the point now where I'm like, hey, Mariners,

467
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Speaker 1: maybe you should just you know, go with the Royals

468
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Speaker 1: formula here. Just get a bunch of dudes who can

469
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Speaker 1: run and steelbases and you know, make make mayhem because

470
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Speaker 1: it's impossible to throw anyone out anyways. Now, so we

471
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Speaker 1: might as well be doing that and just give up

472
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Speaker 1: on the homers and the doubles, just singles and steel bases.

473
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Speaker 1: Let's say you win games, win three to two. That's

474
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Speaker 1: what you're doing anyways.

475
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Speaker 5: That's that is so true.

476
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Speaker 7: Dylan Moore did come on and talk about it for

477
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Speaker 7: like two seconds, but you know, like any other still

478
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Speaker 7: still active player, you're like, I don't want to put

479
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:23,840
Speaker 7: that out there, don't want to make people think I

480
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Speaker 7: have an excuse. My question to you is you see

481
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Speaker 7: this pitching staff, and I praise this pitching staff for

482
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Speaker 7: exactly what they are, watching them and hearing guys that

483
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Speaker 7: faith face, excuse me, they think they are nasty?

484
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Speaker 5: Are they a little inflated?

485
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Speaker 7: Is this pitching staff because of now all these numbers

486
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Speaker 7: that come out. You sit there and you go, maybe

487
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Speaker 7: this starting rotation isn't the best in baseball. Maybe this

488
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Speaker 7: park does help them a lot.

489
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Speaker 1: I think it inches them, you know, into the kind

490
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Speaker 1: of it's kind of unanimously known as the best, you

491
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Speaker 1: know rotation right now, Like like if you ask anyone

492
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Speaker 1: around the league, the marig is gonna come to the

493
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Speaker 1: top mind quickly. I think that maybe the park makes

494
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Speaker 1: takes him to that point where it's not really a

495
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Speaker 1: conversation anymore. But they're definitely just talent wise, it is.

496
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Speaker 1: It is pretty relentless. It's just like power arm after

497
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Speaker 1: power arm after power arm. There's no let off. They're

498
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Speaker 1: all young. They all can strike guys out when they

499
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Speaker 1: need to, and they got a great pitching development program

500
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Speaker 1: there too, So they're they're these guys are as good,

501
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Speaker 1: like hitting their potential quickly, and they're early. They're coming

502
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Speaker 1: up young, like I think, for for example, George Kirby,

503
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Speaker 1: we haven't even seen remotely close to as good as

504
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Speaker 1: George Kirby can be when that guy figures out, when

505
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Speaker 1: he gets his veteran pitching mind fully under him, you know,

506
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Speaker 1: after he's not twenty six any more, when he's like

507
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Speaker 1: third or twenty eight, twenty seven, maybe he's gonna be

508
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Speaker 1: throwing that mid two every single year. He's just got

509
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Speaker 1: that kind of stuff in that kind of command. So

510
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Speaker 1: if you go look at each picture individually.

511
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Speaker 2: Like, well, that guy's pretty good. Oh, that guy's pretty good,

512
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Speaker 2: and then it kind of comes here.

513
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Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, they're they're they're not fun to watch if

514
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Speaker 1: you had to pay him for five straight games. There's

515
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Speaker 1: at no point you can be like, Okay, I can

516
00:24:00,760 --> 00:24:02,640
Speaker 1: take my foot off the gas here as a hitter,

517
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Speaker 1: I just think, you know how it is, like you

518
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Speaker 1: there's certain guys you go and you're like when you're

519
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Speaker 1: preparing for him, when you're when your team has five

520
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Speaker 1: of them, it's just you're the best rotation. So I

521
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Speaker 1: think that, yeah, it maybe they're pushed for it a

522
00:24:16,359 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 1: little bit by the by the boost of the park,

523
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Speaker 1: but they're still really good on the road, So I

524
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Speaker 1: think the top to bottom they're they're just as good

525
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Speaker 1: or better than anybody.

526
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm all for that contact speed dudes, And I

527
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Speaker 3: know you're gonna get the pushback from people saying you

528
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Speaker 3: need slug.

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Speaker 7: You they have it, like, yeah, enough guys do that.

530
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Speaker 3: They don't have enough speed though, No, they don't have enough.

531
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Speaker 3: Blanco is not that guy, not that guy?

532
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Speaker 6: Yeah yeah right. Team batting average? Wait what batting average?

533
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Speaker 4: That's yeah, oh yeah, you don't say that.

534
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Speaker 3: Hey, I'm not old school, we know that, but also

535
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Speaker 3: like that average actually should matter for the Mariners.

536
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Speaker 6: Well that was quick. Let me check my fake watch.

537
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Speaker 3: What eight minutes ago we asked for some sub help

538
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Speaker 3: seventy five k subs.

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Speaker 6: Thank you, Thank everyone. Sometimes you just to remind them,

540
00:25:13,440 --> 00:25:15,960
Speaker 6: come on, yeah, let's get eighty What else you got?

541
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Speaker 3: Some of them know we have a TikTok and Instagram,

542
00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:23,240
Speaker 3: an Apple podcast, a Spotify.

543
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Speaker 4: You want to check them all out? Can I get

544
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Speaker 4: a little more? Can I get a little more on

545
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Speaker 4: a Friday?

546
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Speaker 6: Anyway?

547
00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,440
Speaker 3: I appreciate you, but let me get into one or

548
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,679
Speaker 3: two more questions here, because we love the people and

549
00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,040
Speaker 3: we answer their questions. Kick Dirt Baseball said, what do

550
00:25:33,080 --> 00:25:36,359
Speaker 3: you see Seattle doing after the whoor hey Polanco signing?

551
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:42,080
Speaker 3: Probably not a ton, but yeah, no, Jerry's gonna.

552
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Speaker 6: Yeah.

553
00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 3: I've wanted them to trade Louis Castillo, my guest Trevor

554
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Speaker 3: and and not any knock on Luise, just to see

555
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Speaker 3: if they can get themselves a young bat like I

556
00:25:51,880 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 3: wanted to Louise Castillo, Kobe Mayo or even a mount

557
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Speaker 3: Castle something like that with a young, cheap Orioles bat.

558
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,000
Speaker 3: Going back, But my guess is I think front offices

559
00:26:01,000 --> 00:26:02,919
Speaker 3: are so damn cheap, so obsessed with trying to get

560
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,560
Speaker 3: the max value, and oh, you got to give me

561
00:26:04,600 --> 00:26:06,000
Speaker 3: money back on this. You got to give me money

562
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:07,480
Speaker 3: back on that. I just think it prevents a lot

563
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Speaker 3: of those deals from happening these days.

564
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Speaker 2: Yeah, risk adversity, everyone's risk adverse.

565
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Speaker 1: And those two teams you just mentioned, the Orioles and Elias,

566
00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: just can't pull the trigger on any trades.

567
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:21,040
Speaker 2: He just can't. Like he's talked about.

568
00:26:20,800 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: It publicly, he knows these guys personally, which, actually, to

569
00:26:24,800 --> 00:26:27,040
Speaker 1: be honest, it was refreshing to hear that for once

570
00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,800
Speaker 1: finally to say, I like these guys. It's tough to

571
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Speaker 1: get rid of them. But like the Orioles aren't. Are

572
00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:35,840
Speaker 1: kind of doing a lot of the same Mariner stuff.

573
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Speaker 1: Like they're in a window too that I don't think

574
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Speaker 1: they're executing on near well enough. It's just kind of

575
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,200
Speaker 1: just trying to tighten up this something here and there,

576
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Speaker 1: maybe tighten.

577
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Speaker 2: Up the profits a little bit.

578
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Speaker 1: Uh, It's it's just it just doesn't feel very fun

579
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:52,960
Speaker 1: as as an owner that neither one of these teams

580
00:26:53,040 --> 00:26:55,160
Speaker 1: really want to want to rock the boat too much,

581
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Speaker 1: and they kind of just want to stick with what

582
00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,080
Speaker 1: they know. And for the Mariners it's it's pitching, and

583
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Speaker 1: for the Orioles it's having left handed blind prospects.

584
00:27:05,880 --> 00:27:07,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point. I was going to say, also,

585
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 3: I mean that that was the funny answer. The nerdier

586
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 3: answer is like, there those Baseball America rankings, and trust me,

587
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 3: I'm all over them. I post a show with BA.

588
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,880
Speaker 3: But the Oriels got to be near the top there.

589
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,320
Speaker 3: We got to keep that standing. Guys got to be

590
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:22,000
Speaker 3: in the top ten.

591
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:26,399
Speaker 7: It's like holding all the chips in a poker tournament.

592
00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,520
Speaker 7: If you just get bled out, you never win.

593
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 6: Right, Sometimes you got to pull alga.

594
00:27:31,160 --> 00:27:34,639
Speaker 7: Don't let don't let these prospects careers bleed out because

595
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,320
Speaker 7: each year they get one year older.

596
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Speaker 3: The Chase Field roof had a problem come on. They

597
00:27:44,560 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 3: either had to open and close it before fans got

598
00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:48,879
Speaker 3: there because of a cable issue. You don't want that

599
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,119
Speaker 3: balling on people. Yes, we do not want people dying

600
00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:54,159
Speaker 3: at ballparks.

601
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Speaker 6: So we're good. It's fully functioning.

602
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Speaker 4: Good though you don't hear about it, which is fine.

603
00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,600
Speaker 4: They they did what they had to do without people

604
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Speaker 4: blowing Oh look it is no the baseball stadium. Well,

605
00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 4: I know, let's still it wasn't It wasn't the biggest deal.

606
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Speaker 7: Do you remember what they used to do? Do you

607
00:28:09,640 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 7: remember playing in Arizona Trevor, do you remember playing in

608
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Speaker 7: Arizona and what they did when it worked, like how

609
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:16,680
Speaker 7: they did it.

610
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,520
Speaker 1: It was no, I was just I was always just

611
00:28:18,560 --> 00:28:21,080
Speaker 1: praying it was closed all the time you were.

612
00:28:21,160 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 7: You were probably not even out in the field, but

613
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,959
Speaker 7: they would they would announce, oh national anthem, and then

614
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,720
Speaker 7: they would be like they'd start the music and it was.

615
00:28:28,680 --> 00:28:30,199
Speaker 5: Like, dude, dude, do.

616
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Speaker 7: Yeah, they're opening it and you're like, this is great.

617
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Speaker 7: And the fans loved it. The fans, the local fans

618
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Speaker 7: there because at that time there was like you know,

619
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Speaker 7: fifteen to twenty fans that were at those games.

620
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Speaker 4: Yeah, you had that old lady up top with the flags.

621
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Speaker 7: Yeah she was, I mean she was number one fans.

622
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Speaker 7: She was a number one diamonback.

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Speaker 2: You're the best Todd.

624
00:28:54,520 --> 00:28:55,600
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's funny.

625
00:28:55,640 --> 00:28:57,200
Speaker 7: And then the people go in and she'd watch it

626
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:58,840
Speaker 7: and then the picture will go back out. You're the

627
00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 7: best Tod. But any way, No, they used to do

628
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 7: a big ceremony about it, and you used to have

629
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Speaker 7: it open during batting practice because they had real grass,

630
00:29:05,680 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 7: so they're trying to burn it, I mean, help it grow.

631
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:11,000
Speaker 7: And it was so freaking hot. I was like, what

632
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 7: are we doing with it with the dome with the

633
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 7: roof here? But they made a big deal out of it,

634
00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 7: so I'm glad they can get it back.

635
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 4: Do you remember the Diamondbacks mascot there? They always play

636
00:29:21,120 --> 00:29:24,600
Speaker 4: rock paper scissors? Yeah, yeah, you always play rock paper scissors.

637
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:26,880
Speaker 4: You were, you were, you were still eating.

638
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Speaker 5: I was, I was definitely definite.

639
00:29:29,960 --> 00:29:34,560
Speaker 4: I can. I can never beat him, never, Bax, I

640
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:38,040
Speaker 4: could never be. He come on back and wouldn't he

641
00:29:38,040 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 4: would speak beat you every time.

642
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,800
Speaker 7: Every time there's three choices, and he only has three fingers,

643
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:45,800
Speaker 7: so he got me.

644
00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 5: Scissors. It's all scissors and your thumb, no chance.

645
00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 4: Yeah, but every time you put scissors, I would use paper,

646
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:58,360
Speaker 4: and every time it is paper.

647
00:29:58,640 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 5: How paper scissors were?

648
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 4: Don't set off rock paper Shoot.

649
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,360
Speaker 3: All right, we're gonna go settle downstairs with these shoes

650
00:30:07,800 --> 00:30:09,640
Speaker 3: with the step brothers. So we'll be back in twenty

651
00:30:09,640 --> 00:30:11,360
Speaker 3: seconds to go over some rumors.

652
00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:18,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, because it gets rid of I'm sorry, Scott. I

653
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Speaker 4: do have a straight cat in my backyard name memorial.

654
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Speaker 4: That's perfect memorial. It's a perfect start to end the week.

655
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Speaker 3: That means you didn't tell you the black and White

656
00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 3: cat memorial Yeah, we dive deeper into some things that

657
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 3: you're interested in, some things that you might not be interested.

658
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 6: You have to deal with.

659
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:36,720
Speaker 4: Trevor love it.

660
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:42,320
Speaker 2: Tell you more about this cat.

661
00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: His cat's name is Dylan Cees. So a couple of

662
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Speaker 3: notes from John Hammond's Notes column in the New York Post.

663
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Speaker 3: He said, the Mets are discussing Dylan Cees trade conversations

664
00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:58,680
Speaker 3: that didn't make sense. Dylan Cee's trade with the Padres.

665
00:30:59,120 --> 00:30:59,479
Speaker 6: Wow.

666
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:02,040
Speaker 3: And the Padres would listen on anyone who is not

667
00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 3: Tatis or Machado, and they may prefer the Mets list

668
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:08,480
Speaker 3: of prospects over.

669
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:12,800
Speaker 6: The Cups list of prospects. We talked about this the

670
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:14,000
Speaker 6: beginning of the offseason.

671
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: Trevor and I had a hard time understanding why they

672
00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:20,680
Speaker 3: would trade him. I still have that, but I guess

673
00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 3: it's becoming more of a reality. So I think we

674
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,560
Speaker 3: can't cover this enough. Dylan Cees finished in fourth place

675
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 3: for cy Young voting in the National League last year.

676
00:31:31,280 --> 00:31:34,040
Speaker 3: He is an ace. He is a number one starter

677
00:31:34,920 --> 00:31:37,640
Speaker 3: entering what I believe is a contract year. This could

678
00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:40,760
Speaker 3: be yes, it is. This could be a massive, massive

679
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 3: pickup that could shift the way a division plays. Out

680
00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 3: or even a freaking postseason. So your thoughts on all

681
00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:49,520
Speaker 3: of this, And I mean, if you're a team that

682
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 3: thinks are going to win a World Series this year,

683
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,440
Speaker 3: you should be all over trying to acquire him.

684
00:31:53,440 --> 00:31:57,640
Speaker 2: Agree, I agree wholeheartedly.

685
00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:58,520
Speaker 4: He's a guy.

686
00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 1: He would be a major prize. I would say even

687
00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 1: beyond I was huge about everyone. Everyone needed to be

688
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: in on Crochet to start the year or start the offseason.

689
00:32:06,840 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: Red Sox ended up getting him. Cease is one of

690
00:32:09,720 --> 00:32:11,480
Speaker 1: these guys that you need to go, even just for

691
00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:13,120
Speaker 1: a year, Go get.

692
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: Him Orioles, like Orioles, Orioles.

693
00:32:16,120 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 1: So I if you're not reaching out and seeing what

694
00:32:20,200 --> 00:32:23,800
Speaker 1: they want, you're you're not trying hard enough. And if

695
00:32:23,840 --> 00:32:27,920
Speaker 1: it's the Mets now now, no no shade thrown. But hey, man,

696
00:32:27,960 --> 00:32:29,840
Speaker 1: if the Mets get him now, that is an a

697
00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:30,720
Speaker 1: plus offseason.

698
00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 2: Okay, that's what they had Cease. That's a big, big,

699
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: big deal.

700
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Speaker 1: So yeah, anyone, anyone's a better team with Dylan Cees obviously, Uh,

701
00:32:39,800 --> 00:32:41,680
Speaker 1: but if you can add him to a group of

702
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:44,520
Speaker 1: guys where you already have a pretty solid core and

703
00:32:44,560 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 1: he's like the the final piece, which he kind of

704
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 1: was for the Padres when they got him, he kind

705
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,520
Speaker 1: of he's kind of that role now.

706
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:52,920
Speaker 2: Uh.

707
00:32:53,000 --> 00:32:55,440
Speaker 1: And if they can go get him, I mean, that's

708
00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:58,720
Speaker 1: that's massive. And it's when it comes to prospects. There's

709
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:02,320
Speaker 1: a lot of teams that can can out prospect trade

710
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 1: the Mets. So if you're letting him go to the

711
00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:08,080
Speaker 1: Mets at this point, there's no excuses for the teams

712
00:33:08,120 --> 00:33:09,960
Speaker 1: that have the prospect capital go get a guy like that.

713
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 5: John Haymond just texted, he said, stop throwing shade at me, Trevor.

714
00:33:15,120 --> 00:33:20,080
Speaker 7: But who gets who is the better? Let's say Dylan

715
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:23,720
Speaker 7: Ceas goes somewhere else. Compare him to the Garrett Crochet trade.

716
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:26,200
Speaker 7: Who do you think is a better pitcher? Just just

717
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:30,480
Speaker 7: so fans can start clamoring, including Padres fans. He's not

718
00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 7: an ace, he's number one. That's that's a whole nother discussion.

719
00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 7: But Padres fans should want this guy. But who's better Garrett?

720
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: I think ceiling wise, that's that's stuff I think. But

721
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 1: when both of these guys are are dialed in on

722
00:33:49,040 --> 00:33:51,000
Speaker 1: any given day, it's it's just no one's getting a

723
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:54,880
Speaker 1: Hites has actually done that. I would give the edge

724
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Speaker 1: just just to Ceaze just because of the amount of

725
00:33:59,800 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: any he's thrown in years and how he's got a

726
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:03,680
Speaker 1: little bit more experience under his belt.

727
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Speaker 2: That's it.

728
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 1: Crochet is still, you know, only one year removed from

729
00:34:07,680 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 1: being a reliever and hurt all the time, and he's

730
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:11,799
Speaker 1: still on through like one hundred and what was one

731
00:34:11,880 --> 00:34:13,680
Speaker 1: hundred and thirty eight innings last year, So he's still

732
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,320
Speaker 1: like in that innings limit area, which gives me pause.

733
00:34:16,400 --> 00:34:18,640
Speaker 1: But I think ceiling wise, if both are dialed in,

734
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,600
Speaker 1: like Garrett Crochet has got hair schooble type stuff, like

735
00:34:22,680 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: he could be a two hundred and fifty ten inning

736
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Speaker 1: cy young guy. I think he's has that opportunity, that

737
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:31,040
Speaker 1: ability to But Crochet might be a little bit more,

738
00:34:31,880 --> 00:34:34,239
Speaker 1: could be more consistent. I think he gets a little

739
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: consistent in the middle of the year, and that's kind

740
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:39,480
Speaker 1: of what hurts him. He's got some clunkers, but you know,

741
00:34:39,640 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 1: if he cleans that up, he's just as good as

742
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:44,280
Speaker 1: anybody in the league. So that's a that's a good question,

743
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:45,879
Speaker 1: but I'll give it. I'll give the edge to Cease

744
00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:46,880
Speaker 1: just because of the experience.

745
00:34:47,920 --> 00:34:49,600
Speaker 3: He's a massive bargain. I know you're gonna have to

746
00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 3: probably pay a lot in prospects, but he's making thirteen

747
00:34:52,200 --> 00:34:54,439
Speaker 3: point seventy five million dollars twenty twenty five.

748
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:55,800
Speaker 6: Okay, look at all.

749
00:34:55,640 --> 00:34:57,279
Speaker 3: The players we just talked about at the top of

750
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,120
Speaker 3: the show. We all have they're all obviously some of

751
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 3: them legends and have great credentials. But like there some

752
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,680
Speaker 3: of those guys you know, might not pitch or might

753
00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:08,520
Speaker 3: not pitch much, or their back end guys, right like

754
00:35:08,640 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 3: Charlie Morton's becoming more of a four or five starter.

755
00:35:11,040 --> 00:35:13,120
Speaker 3: If you're a good team, that's that's fine, that's okay,

756
00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 3: But those guys are getting fifteen. This is Dylan Ceese

757
00:35:16,040 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 3: at thirteen point seventy five. He's a free agent right now.

758
00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 3: He's he's close to Corbyn Burns money, I think close.

759
00:35:25,239 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: And also, I mean you could make the case, I

760
00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:29,319
Speaker 3: mean a Freed, you could make the case. Depends on

761
00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:32,520
Speaker 3: each person's situation. Burns specifically one at Arizona got some

762
00:35:32,600 --> 00:35:35,279
Speaker 3: opt out all that kind of stuff involved. Freed was

763
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:38,239
Speaker 3: in the low two hundreds. Dylan Cease is that kind

764
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,880
Speaker 3: of pitchers. Okay, so look at the price that you

765
00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:44,160
Speaker 3: get for him. This was what I complained about last year.

766
00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: Todd Father for the Wan Soto market. I know it

767
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 3: costs a lot to go get Wan Soto, but I'm like,

768
00:35:49,960 --> 00:35:52,719
Speaker 3: this could win you a World Series this year. It's

769
00:35:52,880 --> 00:35:55,719
Speaker 3: one year and he was what about thirty million dollars

770
00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:59,640
Speaker 3: one year of a top three hitter in baseball? This

771
00:35:59,719 --> 00:36:02,319
Speaker 3: is the one time or yeah, you can't necessarily give

772
00:36:02,360 --> 00:36:04,879
Speaker 3: that guy the seven hundred plus million or in this case,

773
00:36:04,920 --> 00:36:06,680
Speaker 3: the two hundred million in the offseason, but you can

774
00:36:06,719 --> 00:36:08,240
Speaker 3: get that player for one season.

775
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:12,399
Speaker 4: And how are you beating the Dodgers? Like people keep

776
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,760
Speaker 4: forgetting they are. This is the best team ever put together.

777
00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:19,440
Speaker 4: I mean pretty much, if you want the truth. Steve

778
00:36:19,480 --> 00:36:21,919
Speaker 4: Cohen is not afraid now they have to get more.

779
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:24,680
Speaker 4: They're a good team. I don't care what they're do

780
00:36:24,719 --> 00:36:26,520
Speaker 4: in their division. They can win their division. But they're

781
00:36:26,520 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 4: still not beating the Dodgers. So to find a way

782
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:31,799
Speaker 4: to get rid of some prospects. Prospects, I hate the

783
00:36:31,840 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 4: word prospect because they're not I don't know, they're minor

784
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:39,479
Speaker 4: league ballplayers. I want guys that are in the big leagues.

785
00:36:39,520 --> 00:36:41,840
Speaker 4: I want big league caliber guys until they get to

786
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,239
Speaker 4: the big leagues. Then I could give them a different name.

787
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,520
Speaker 4: All right, your prospect great, whoop do you do? Get

788
00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:48,919
Speaker 4: rid of them? Get somebody who's established, who's a top

789
00:36:48,920 --> 00:36:52,719
Speaker 4: four guy, like you said every year to fight against

790
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:54,400
Speaker 4: now the vampire in the West.

791
00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:56,439
Speaker 3: And I also look this up because I was pretty

792
00:36:56,480 --> 00:36:59,120
Speaker 3: sure it was the case. I mean, insiders who know

793
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 3: what they're talking about have mentioned this goes back to

794
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:05,839
Speaker 3: last year. The Orioles loving cease and they pursued him

795
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:08,279
Speaker 3: last year but obviously lost out to the Padres, who

796
00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:10,319
Speaker 3: ended up acquiring him from the White Sox. I could

797
00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 3: not agree more Drubber. The Orioles are a very, very

798
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,239
Speaker 3: massive a short of being a World Series winning team.

799
00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 6: Are they a playoff team? Probably? Are they a world

800
00:37:19,400 --> 00:37:22,720
Speaker 6: Series winning team? No? They do not have guys? Obviously

801
00:37:22,719 --> 00:37:24,680
Speaker 6: they have some, but I am not comfortable with that Roch.

802
00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 1: I've always start with winning one playoff game. We start there.

803
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,440
Speaker 6: That's a great start. Yes, Why great start?

804
00:37:30,719 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 7: Why Why would they push in right now?

805
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 5: Why would the Orioles push in?

806
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,280
Speaker 6: And they lost Corbin Burns?

807
00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 7: Should it should show them that? Hey, it really helped

808
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:42,480
Speaker 7: us last year we kind of had we had some injuries,

809
00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 7: Bradish went down, we still had Burns to anchor this

810
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:49,560
Speaker 7: except if they're going to do it to me, redo

811
00:37:49,640 --> 00:37:51,680
Speaker 7: the mistake that they made this offseason.

812
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:53,400
Speaker 5: Sign him.

813
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 7: You have a whole year of him. You get to

814
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,960
Speaker 7: show him out Boston. It is to play with all

815
00:37:57,000 --> 00:38:00,200
Speaker 7: these dudes in Baltimore. They you trade for him, him,

816
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 7: and then you sign him, and then you're like, whoa,

817
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:06,759
Speaker 7: we just traded Kobe Mayo and whoever you want to

818
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 7: say from the system for this dude that's going to

819
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:13,239
Speaker 7: anchor our rotation for the next seven years because we

820
00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 7: extended him or we signed him in free agency.

821
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:18,799
Speaker 3: This might be a good time to bring up how

822
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 3: the Orioles will not miss on any players because of money, right,

823
00:38:23,120 --> 00:38:25,080
Speaker 3: that was the quote, they won't miss out on any

824
00:38:25,120 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 3: players because of money. I just wanted to make sure

825
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 3: we spent some time on this trap because it does

826
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,600
Speaker 3: feel more and more like Dylan Ceese is going to

827
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:39,640
Speaker 3: get traded. And the three examples we brought up are perfect.

828
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:43,319
Speaker 3: The Cubs are a fringe playoff team. This could help

829
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:45,120
Speaker 3: the Cubs get in the playoffs or win a division.

830
00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:47,919
Speaker 3: The Mets are should be a playoff team. This could

831
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 3: help them slay the Dragon and beat the Dodgers. The

832
00:38:51,560 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 3: Orioles are a playoff team. This could help them actually

833
00:38:54,280 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 3: win a playoff game and do some damage in the postseason.

834
00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:58,400
Speaker 6: That's how big I feel.

835
00:38:58,880 --> 00:38:59,319
Speaker 4: That's hard.

836
00:38:59,560 --> 00:39:01,839
Speaker 3: Yeah, so I'm curious to see what happens here.

837
00:39:01,880 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 7: Now.

838
00:39:02,120 --> 00:39:05,760
Speaker 3: The other side of the spectrum is whoa, the Padres

839
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:08,920
Speaker 3: are going to lose. That's a big boy, and they

840
00:39:08,920 --> 00:39:12,280
Speaker 3: were a win away from, in my mind, a world series, Trevor,

841
00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 3: because I think if they beat the Dodgers, they're beating

842
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:16,879
Speaker 3: the Yanks. I think they were a better team. Feel

843
00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 3: pretty good about that.

844
00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 4: Would you world Series last year?

845
00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:21,160
Speaker 6: I don't remember. I don't remember.

846
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 5: Breakfast, so that was.

847
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,880
Speaker 3: Two years ago, two years That's why you're on the

848
00:39:27,880 --> 00:39:31,560
Speaker 3: Padres trade right now. Well, because they're losing a ton

849
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 3: of players recently, Trevor. They jerks and Profar was pretty

850
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 3: damn good last year for San Diego. He gone, Dylan

851
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,799
Speaker 3: Sees might get traded out on Kim obviously was hurt

852
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:43,360
Speaker 3: down the stretch, but he's been a big part of

853
00:39:43,360 --> 00:39:44,480
Speaker 3: the ball.

854
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:45,279
Speaker 4: Yeah.

855
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:47,160
Speaker 6: I don't know. I really liked what they put together.

856
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:47,440
Speaker 4: All right.

857
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 3: Let's also queue up this little this little thing from

858
00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:55,319
Speaker 3: the owner. There was a really good show called May

859
00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,640
Speaker 3: day the other day that that talked about him. So

860
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:02,120
Speaker 3: let's see what uh the Daily Show host had to

861
00:40:02,120 --> 00:40:02,719
Speaker 3: say about it.

862
00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: Rubenstein told Yahoo Financier in the world economic for him,

863
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:08,280
Speaker 1: I suspect we'll probably have something closer with the NFL

864
00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: have NBA have, but there's no guarantee of that. Why

865
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:16,960
Speaker 1: do you think that, David. I think David thinks that

866
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:19,279
Speaker 1: because David's used to getting what David wants. I think

867
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,760
Speaker 1: I think that, like he says things like that without

868
00:40:21,800 --> 00:40:24,680
Speaker 1: giving any of the nuance, like why it doesn't exist yet,

869
00:40:25,400 --> 00:40:28,480
Speaker 1: and he just thinks that, like if he just wishes

870
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:32,040
Speaker 1: hard enough, it will But no, it won't. It won't

871
00:40:32,080 --> 00:40:39,160
Speaker 1: just happen because you want it. And that genuinely pissed

872
00:40:39,200 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 1: me off to a level it blew blew my mind.

873
00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:45,319
Speaker 1: He's like, man, it would be really nice to have

874
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: this super advantageous to the owner's ownership group system. I

875
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:56,920
Speaker 1: really wish we had it. No, no sh but I

876
00:40:57,000 --> 00:40:59,480
Speaker 1: really hope you understand why you don't have it. I

877
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:03,200
Speaker 1: know you've only around for a year and you you

878
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 1: lost the division at the in the air and then

879
00:41:04,560 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: sign nobody, So maybe maybe maybe baseball isn't actually the

880
00:41:08,719 --> 00:41:11,520
Speaker 1: reason you own a team. Now, maybe maybe it's for

881
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 1: other reasons.

882
00:41:14,320 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 3: We don't share in cap businesses in life?

883
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 6: Do we.

884
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:20,239
Speaker 4: Do we?

885
00:41:20,719 --> 00:41:20,919
Speaker 2: Oh?

886
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:21,520
Speaker 5: My god? Yeah?

887
00:41:21,560 --> 00:41:23,400
Speaker 1: So that was And also you didn't see at the beginning.

888
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 1: It was in reference to him making some very blatant,

889
00:41:27,160 --> 00:41:29,799
Speaker 1: just like blanket statements about a salary cap.

890
00:41:29,840 --> 00:41:31,680
Speaker 2: Man, I really hope we have a salary cap like

891
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 2: other sports do.

892
00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:35,239
Speaker 1: I like it very much. Had tones like I don't

893
00:41:35,320 --> 00:41:36,680
Speaker 1: understand the other ones do it?

894
00:41:36,719 --> 00:41:37,359
Speaker 2: Why don't we?

895
00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,400
Speaker 1: I'm like, maybe you shouldn't own a team until you

896
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,360
Speaker 1: know the answer that question, because you don't own it

897
00:41:42,400 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: because you own because you because you control all your

898
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 1: players for twice as long as all the other sports.

899
00:41:46,760 --> 00:41:50,560
Speaker 1: That's why it's that simple. And you're a prime example

900
00:41:50,600 --> 00:41:53,319
Speaker 1: of having an entire team full of guys who've been

901
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:54,719
Speaker 1: there for two years and you're going to control them

902
00:41:54,760 --> 00:41:55,720
Speaker 1: for the next four or five.

903
00:41:55,600 --> 00:41:56,920
Speaker 2: And you won't trade any your prospects.

904
00:41:57,000 --> 00:41:59,920
Speaker 1: So like, that's what you're doing, So you should know

905
00:42:00,160 --> 00:42:01,439
Speaker 1: that that's why you don't have a salary cap.

906
00:42:01,680 --> 00:42:03,440
Speaker 2: And then he said, I I think we're gonna get

907
00:42:03,480 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: it soon. Why why do you think that you have

908
00:42:06,040 --> 00:42:07,880
Speaker 2: to be given it? Well, you're not just gonna take it,

909
00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:08,640
Speaker 2: you have to be given it.

910
00:42:08,680 --> 00:42:13,160
Speaker 1: So uh yeah, it just it screamed lack of understanding,

911
00:42:13,239 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: which is not great a great look in my opinion,

912
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,359
Speaker 1: especially you know, they had the Angelo's things there and

913
00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:21,399
Speaker 1: you know people were not happy with them and they're

914
00:42:21,400 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: glad they were gone.

915
00:42:22,120 --> 00:42:26,200
Speaker 2: But are we gonna is this exciting?

916
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 5: Now?

917
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,000
Speaker 1: We like to have this now? Like I just it

918
00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:32,360
Speaker 1: really really frustrated me a lot. And I don't like

919
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:35,680
Speaker 1: to I don't like to hear about salary caps flippantly

920
00:42:35,719 --> 00:42:38,000
Speaker 1: thrown around like like there's some sort of they're fair

921
00:42:38,080 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 1: in some some way, shape or form to anybody.

922
00:42:40,200 --> 00:42:41,600
Speaker 2: But the people home teams.

923
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:43,919
Speaker 6: Mike drop and it's it's the cure.

924
00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,200
Speaker 3: It's the cure to everything, right, because as long as

925
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 3: we have that, then you know, we'll just have the

926
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,359
Speaker 3: Chiefs in their Super Bowl every year, you know, bla

927
00:42:50,520 --> 00:42:52,280
Speaker 3: lebron and the the most.

928
00:42:52,080 --> 00:42:53,120
Speaker 2: Parody of any sport.

929
00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:59,040
Speaker 3: Yes, by far, completely, Yes, payroll in the NBA is

930
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,560
Speaker 3: much more tied to you success there and they have

931
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 3: a cap, so we're rooting for that just because a

932
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:11,480
Speaker 3: few teams do not represent that's yeah, yeah, that's really working.

933
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:22,440
Speaker 3: That's really working. I need four over unders. Okay, the

934
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:28,680
Speaker 3: Tigers bet MGM futures eighty three and a half wins.

935
00:43:28,719 --> 00:43:30,479
Speaker 6: I mean, Todd Father is making a fair.

936
00:43:30,400 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 5: I don't know.

937
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:33,560
Speaker 4: I think that's an easy over, man. I think it's

938
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,440
Speaker 4: an easy over. I really like this team, especially how

939
00:43:36,440 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 4: they ended last year. I don't know, I just I

940
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 4: just like what they're doing over there, and with AJ

941
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,200
Speaker 4: being the manager Hinch, I mean, it's it's a solid

942
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,239
Speaker 4: ball club. I mean, maybe I'm biased because when I

943
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 4: saw him playing against Houston, they beat Houston. Somebody finally

944
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,200
Speaker 4: beat Houston. But no, I really like where they're going

945
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,560
Speaker 4: and a couple of pickups they got.

946
00:43:57,840 --> 00:43:59,840
Speaker 5: I don't think it's an easy over. No, you're just

947
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 5: division is tough.

948
00:44:02,719 --> 00:44:04,759
Speaker 7: But coming from a guy that chose them to win

949
00:44:04,800 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 7: the division last year, I didn't see him getting to

950
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 7: the playoffs the way they did. I'm taking I'm taking

951
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:15,120
Speaker 7: the over because I like a J. Hinch and that

952
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:16,880
Speaker 7: is it. I'm talking like an eighty. I'm in the

953
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:19,479
Speaker 7: eighty three to eighty five range, So I'm taking the over.

954
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,399
Speaker 4: Okay, you think that division is that hard, I don't

955
00:44:22,440 --> 00:44:22,799
Speaker 4: see it.

956
00:44:22,880 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 7: I think that division had three playoff teams in it. Yeah,

957
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,759
Speaker 7: they had everybody, but the Yankees were the ones left

958
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:29,279
Speaker 7: at the end.

959
00:44:29,440 --> 00:44:31,719
Speaker 4: No, no, I don't. I don't see it this year.

960
00:44:31,600 --> 00:44:33,720
Speaker 5: And the Royals got better, so that's got to be tough.

961
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:35,719
Speaker 5: The Guardians, I would say that.

962
00:44:35,760 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 4: I would say that the.

963
00:44:36,760 --> 00:44:42,160
Speaker 3: Royal steps back on wins. Maybe the Guardians my team.

964
00:44:42,160 --> 00:44:44,239
Speaker 3: I'm thinking an Trevor, Yeah, let's get your thoughts. I'm

965
00:44:44,280 --> 00:44:47,040
Speaker 3: going over here. I got them signing Bregman and going

966
00:44:47,320 --> 00:44:48,839
Speaker 3: over on the Wins if they sign him.

967
00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:51,960
Speaker 2: What about you, Trevor, I'm a cratzy a little bit too.

968
00:44:52,280 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: Eighty five feels really good to me, A safe number,

969
00:44:56,680 --> 00:44:58,399
Speaker 1: but yeah, it's I think I think it's over.

970
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 2: I think that the Twins are going to be, you know,

971
00:45:01,120 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 2: a strong.

972
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:06,000
Speaker 1: And it's going to come down to the Royals and

973
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:09,719
Speaker 1: the Guardians and the Tigers in that division. So I

974
00:45:09,760 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: think that's a I think that's a pretty conservative gas

975
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,560
Speaker 1: eighty five. But they have absolute potential. I mean, they

976
00:45:15,600 --> 00:45:17,520
Speaker 1: got the raining saw young, and they got a young

977
00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: crew of a position players that could continue even get

978
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,040
Speaker 1: even better than were last year. That and then the

979
00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,520
Speaker 1: electric arms to the bullpen. So I mean that's it.

980
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:29,080
Speaker 1: That's a winning team right there. I mean, barring obviously

981
00:45:29,120 --> 00:45:31,080
Speaker 1: starting pitching injuries. They can't afford a lot of starting

982
00:45:31,080 --> 00:45:34,000
Speaker 1: pitching injuries. That's the one thing that they need to avoid.

983
00:45:35,000 --> 00:45:37,759
Speaker 3: I need a Flawherty maybe also Jackson Job should have.

984
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 4: Now you're going, I need this. I need that. It's

985
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 4: either yes or no right now.

986
00:45:41,080 --> 00:45:42,319
Speaker 6: I said yeah.

987
00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 4: But then but then you said unless they get bragmant.

988
00:45:44,520 --> 00:45:46,720
Speaker 6: You put that they get bragmant. I feel better about

989
00:45:46,719 --> 00:45:49,759
Speaker 6: it right now. I'm sneaking over. Go check it out.

990
00:45:49,840 --> 00:45:53,120
Speaker 3: A little basketball offer, because that's what's actually playing real

991
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:55,480
Speaker 3: games right now. Each Friday throughout the season, you get

992
00:45:55,480 --> 00:45:57,080
Speaker 3: to pick a player you think's going to score first

993
00:45:57,080 --> 00:45:58,560
Speaker 3: in the game. If it's not your player, but he

994
00:45:58,600 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 3: scores the second fie goal of the game, you still

995
00:46:01,280 --> 00:46:03,919
Speaker 3: get your stake back in cash. And you only get

996
00:46:03,920 --> 00:46:08,000
Speaker 3: there with the sportsbook Born in Vegas, that is bet

997
00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:08,520
Speaker 3: mg N.

998
00:46:09,160 --> 00:46:11,799
Speaker 6: A gambling problem or concern called when a hundred gambler.

999
00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:22,040
Speaker 3: Let's sizzle hal winter time. Maybe a mystery team Alex Bregman,

1000
00:46:22,760 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 3: John Hayman said, has a separate six year offer on

1001
00:46:25,080 --> 00:46:27,239
Speaker 3: the table, not that you still want it with an

1002
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 3: opt out after the first year from a team that

1003
00:46:29,320 --> 00:46:34,440
Speaker 3: may not be high on list. Go all about that

1004
00:46:34,560 --> 00:46:36,520
Speaker 3: last part though, What does that mean not be high

1005
00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:37,160
Speaker 3: on his list?

1006
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:39,439
Speaker 4: Probably the Reds. Again, the Reds are not.

1007
00:46:43,560 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: Into the Pirates guys.

1008
00:46:47,840 --> 00:46:51,400
Speaker 3: Because Trevor, you know, some of the data people have

1009
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:54,200
Speaker 3: have been likeman is not going to work out if

1010
00:46:54,200 --> 00:46:57,320
Speaker 3: he's in Detroit, that's not the place for him. Although

1011
00:46:57,440 --> 00:46:59,759
Speaker 3: some of those same people also were all up and

1012
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 3: against Juan Soto hitting the amount of homers that he

1013
00:47:03,480 --> 00:47:05,640
Speaker 3: did last year, and he figured it out. I know,

1014
00:47:05,680 --> 00:47:08,759
Speaker 3: Bregman's a different hitter right and has the pull pop

1015
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,000
Speaker 3: and had Houston, but I think he could still hit

1016
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:11,600
Speaker 3: in Detroit.

1017
00:47:12,920 --> 00:47:13,240
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1018
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 1: I think he's just a good bat to ball hitter. Anyway,

1019
00:47:16,400 --> 00:47:18,239
Speaker 1: here's a good player. He's gonna figure it out. He's

1020
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:19,040
Speaker 1: gonna make adjustments.

1021
00:47:19,280 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1022
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:21,960
Speaker 1: Is he gonna be as good as the he was

1023
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 1: in the Astros in some ways? No, he doesn't have

1024
00:47:24,440 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 1: the Crawford boxes anymore, Okay, but he adjusted how he

1025
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,560
Speaker 1: played because he had those, and I think he's good

1026
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:33,080
Speaker 1: enough to make adjustments the other.

1027
00:47:32,960 --> 00:47:35,959
Speaker 2: Way as well. So yeah, maybe the homers aren't gonna

1028
00:47:35,960 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 2: be there, but.

1029
00:47:36,280 --> 00:47:40,440
Speaker 1: He's a you know, gold glove third baseman who doesn't

1030
00:47:40,480 --> 00:47:42,799
Speaker 1: want that, especially with how they're trying to figure out

1031
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 1: what to do with Cole Keith and if they're gonna

1032
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,520
Speaker 1: have Torkosen at first, if they're gona play cold Keith

1033
00:47:46,520 --> 00:47:48,560
Speaker 1: there like, like the corner thing is a little bit

1034
00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,440
Speaker 1: up in the air for pretty much every team. But

1035
00:47:50,640 --> 00:47:54,000
Speaker 1: then most likely so he fits well and then returning

1036
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: to Hinch, you know, like they got that going to

1037
00:47:57,080 --> 00:48:00,239
Speaker 1: that connection. So I mean, just make him better makes

1038
00:48:00,239 --> 00:48:00,719
Speaker 1: a lot of sense.

1039
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:01,399
Speaker 5: They can do it.

1040
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:07,000
Speaker 4: Where pro you think if you had to take a guess,

1041
00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:08,200
Speaker 4: what do you think?

1042
00:48:10,040 --> 00:48:13,960
Speaker 6: Yeah, a little touchy, I'll just wear most insiders.

1043
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:16,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, no, you're right, it's gotta be true.

1044
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:19,279
Speaker 3: But also when just so, I mean, there's plenty of

1045
00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 3: information that comes from teams when you learn about players

1046
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:22,839
Speaker 3: and signing and all that.

1047
00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:24,720
Speaker 6: There's often info coming from reps.

1048
00:48:24,760 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 5: But yeah, he's yeah, that's not.

1049
00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:29,840
Speaker 6: It could be. It could be Toronto.

1050
00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 4: Look at you.

1051
00:48:32,560 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 7: The only reason I would agree with you is because

1052
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:38,160
Speaker 7: of the last part of that, The very last part said.

1053
00:48:38,040 --> 00:48:40,239
Speaker 6: Not high on his list, not high on his He

1054
00:48:40,280 --> 00:48:40,920
Speaker 6: doesn't want to go.

1055
00:48:41,200 --> 00:48:41,920
Speaker 5: It's no shade.

1056
00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:45,239
Speaker 7: It's no shade against Toronto. It's not like maybe he

1057
00:48:45,360 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 7: just doesn't think or any team that it is.

1058
00:48:48,560 --> 00:48:49,839
Speaker 5: That that team is that good?

1059
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:53,319
Speaker 7: Yea, Like now they just got Max Scherzer. When did

1060
00:48:53,480 --> 00:48:56,319
Speaker 7: when did he say? Was that not high on their list?

1061
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:56,520
Speaker 5: You know?

1062
00:48:56,560 --> 00:48:58,960
Speaker 7: It's like it's like the whole Aeronaudo to the Astros.

1063
00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,480
Speaker 7: He's like not now, like I don't want to get

1064
00:49:02,560 --> 00:49:06,160
Speaker 7: traded there. Now that wasn't a top It wasn't.

1065
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:06,560
Speaker 5: You know.

1066
00:49:06,719 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 6: I don't know why he's crazy.

1067
00:49:07,880 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 5: But he's crazy.

1068
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:14,200
Speaker 7: That's a whole other topic. But not high on his list? Well,

1069
00:49:14,239 --> 00:49:17,160
Speaker 7: they got Santandre. Let's check back with Bragman. Oh, they

1070
00:49:17,239 --> 00:49:20,560
Speaker 7: got Surezer. Let's check back with bre Oh oh, maybe

1071
00:49:20,600 --> 00:49:23,080
Speaker 7: he kind of wants to. Maybe that kind of brings

1072
00:49:24,160 --> 00:49:26,480
Speaker 7: Laddie back because I'm gonna play with Bragman for five

1073
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:28,480
Speaker 7: years after this year if it's a six year deal,

1074
00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:30,319
Speaker 7: and that's a team that can do it. If it's

1075
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:33,480
Speaker 7: a true statement, which I believe it is, because why

1076
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:36,120
Speaker 7: would anybody put something false out there, not say Hayman

1077
00:49:36,160 --> 00:49:38,320
Speaker 7: would Maybe somebody else gave it to him and that's false.

1078
00:49:38,360 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 7: But they got money, they got cash. They can do

1079
00:49:42,520 --> 00:49:45,240
Speaker 7: this and it would make them, It would bump them

1080
00:49:45,880 --> 00:49:48,480
Speaker 7: big time. It would be a big time bump for

1081
00:49:48,920 --> 00:49:50,839
Speaker 7: any team that gets them, but definitely the.

1082
00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 3: Chase, yes, exactly, that's my my last word here is

1083
00:49:54,280 --> 00:49:56,000
Speaker 3: not high on the list. It's either because you don't

1084
00:49:56,000 --> 00:49:59,279
Speaker 3: want to go to that destination for competitiveness, or don't

1085
00:49:59,280 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 3: want to be in that city, or you're not a

1086
00:50:01,680 --> 00:50:03,600
Speaker 3: fan of, say the ballpark, and you are going to

1087
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:06,040
Speaker 3: plan to opt out after year one, so you want

1088
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Speaker 3: to go to a place where you're gonna absolutely smash.

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Speaker 6: So those were my two.

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Speaker 4: It's getting late, though, it's getting late. You gotta figure

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Speaker 4: it out.

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Speaker 7: All I can think is Trevor said the Pirates six years,

1093
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Speaker 7: twelve billion, and he slapped his hand with deferral.

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Speaker 5: Be right back.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we can run it if you got it. Let's

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Speaker 3: show Trevor's quick clip about in.

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Speaker 1: Baseball Edition twenty twenty five. Let's get it out. I

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Speaker 1: black on only one side of your face. Another out

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Speaker 1: for me. Intentional walks, Just get rid of them. You

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Speaker 1: got to pitch to everybody in hitters wearing one batting glove.

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Speaker 1: Bring it back, Madison, Bomb Gardner, Hunter Pence, I need

1102
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Speaker 1: more out slamming your forearms together after you hit home run.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 1: I understand this is Aaron Judge's thing, but I feel

1105
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Speaker 1: bad for every single guy that has to do it

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Speaker 1: to Aaron Judge.

1107
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Speaker 2: That guy could kill you if he wanted to.

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Speaker 1: We know that Cody Bellinger did this a little too

1109
00:51:13,960 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: hard in the World Series. Once dealt with the shoulder

1110
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Speaker 1: thing for a while. So uh, they just take it easy, guys.

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Speaker 1: In post game jersey swaps Baseball, Come on, swap those

1112
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:27,760
Speaker 1: jerseys have some fun out relievers conditioning pointless? Stop running relievers.

1113
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Speaker 1: You do enough. You pitch every day. Play catch, that's

1114
00:51:31,080 --> 00:51:34,000
Speaker 1: your conditioning. Why are you running? Nobody cares in You've

1115
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Speaker 1: heard a bark at the park. Let's get him out

1116
00:51:35,640 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 1: at the park. Guys, where are my cat people at?

1117
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,719
Speaker 1: Bring your cats to the park. Don't let them lose, though,

1118
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,280
Speaker 1: because you'll never find them again. I'm starting to realize

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Speaker 1: what the issue is here. However, I want to see

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Speaker 1: everyone raising their cats literally like Simba.

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Speaker 4: Jersey swap too. I love that I do.

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Speaker 3: That's an east while I stay bye. Yeah, that is

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Speaker 3: an easy one. Junior an arrow on Monday. By the way, cookies, cookies,

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Speaker 3: that's a nice, nice