WEBVTT - EP 76: Mobb Ties Ft, J.Prince 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.400 Stop what you're doing right now. It's another episode of 0:00:02.400 --> 0:00:05.720 Against the Chronicles podcast and production of My Heart Radio 0:00:05.920 --> 0:00:11.040 and the Black Effects podcast Networks World. Why Why From 0:00:11.119 --> 0:00:21.200 the Streets to the Yard. When I right, y'all all 0:00:21.280 --> 0:00:25.520 across the USC Compton Watts, Thank to al A from 0:00:25.520 --> 0:00:30.400 on the California Valley. The Valley we represent that Kelly County. 0:00:30.840 --> 0:00:32.920 So if you're keeping it reil on your side of 0:00:32.960 --> 0:00:38.280 your town, you tune into Gangster Chronicles, Gangs n the Goals. 0:00:38.479 --> 0:00:42.120 We're gonna tell you how we go. If I line 0:00:42.200 --> 0:00:44.320 my nose will girl like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you 0:00:44.400 --> 0:00:47.839 to choose nothing but the truth. Thanks the Chronic Goals. 0:00:48.120 --> 0:00:52.560 It's not your average show. You're now tuned into the Rail, 0:00:53.400 --> 0:00:56.720 m C eight Day Change and Mixed Stairs Strictly from 0:00:56.800 --> 0:01:03.160 the Streets. Hello, thank you for tuning into another episode 0:01:03.200 --> 0:01:06.400 of Against the Chronicles podcast with me, Norm Steele and 0:01:06.480 --> 0:01:09.600 my comrades Big James and m C eight Tonight we 0:01:09.640 --> 0:01:12.560 have a special guest. This man puts the G and Gangster. 0:01:12.880 --> 0:01:14.960 That's one of the most revered and respected members of 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:17.800 not only Southern hip hop, but the entire hip hop 0:01:17.959 --> 0:01:20.880 nation and the streets. J Prince, the founder of Houston, 0:01:20.880 --> 0:01:23.440 Texas based Rapp a Lot Records, introduced us the gainst 0:01:23.560 --> 0:01:27.120 rap artist, sex of the Ghetto Boys, traded truth scar Faced, 0:01:27.160 --> 0:01:30.240 Willie D, and others. His reputation proceeds him from his 0:01:30.319 --> 0:01:33.880 ties with Chicago political prisoner Larry Hoover to his victory 0:01:33.880 --> 0:01:37.320 over corrupt federal officers. J Princes revered and love and 0:01:37.400 --> 0:01:40.200 not just his native Fifth Ward, Texas, but hoods all 0:01:40.240 --> 0:01:43.600 over urban America. What's happening to look? J oh yeah, 0:01:44.280 --> 0:01:46.880 y'all doing that. We're all good, man. It's a pleasure 0:01:46.920 --> 0:01:48.560 to have you, don't hear what. It's a night we 0:01:48.680 --> 0:01:53.720 go stick strictly to the party. Now. The company is 0:01:53.800 --> 0:01:56.360 named after your brother, Sir rapp a Lot. Yeah, yeah, 0:01:56.440 --> 0:01:58.240 you feel what You're putting your hustle to the curb 0:01:58.320 --> 0:02:00.840 and everything to start a record company only to have 0:02:01.000 --> 0:02:03.400 him wind up in the pin. Yeah. Well, you know, 0:02:04.800 --> 0:02:06.840 I feel bad for him, you know what I mean. 0:02:06.960 --> 0:02:10.320 I still feel bad for him, you know, all the 0:02:10.320 --> 0:02:14.360 way up until this day, man, because you know, we 0:02:14.440 --> 0:02:17.040 all know we had to live with the choices that 0:02:17.080 --> 0:02:21.360 we make in life. And uh he uh at the time, 0:02:21.480 --> 0:02:24.240 didn't really he had been burned you know how you 0:02:24.240 --> 0:02:27.639 know how how woman get burned from from Nigga's proud 0:02:27.760 --> 0:02:30.840 to you getting with him and and and they they 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:33.679 don't believe you know what I mean, they'd be scarred, right. 0:02:34.000 --> 0:02:37.239 So I think my brother had got scarred for dealing 0:02:37.280 --> 0:02:41.960 with people proud to dealing with me. And you know 0:02:42.040 --> 0:02:45.960 he didn't bleed, man, So he decided to do some 0:02:46.000 --> 0:02:50.440 other ship, you know, and it costing twenty something years. Wow, man, 0:02:50.440 --> 0:02:53.040 that that's that's crucial right there, man, twenty some years. 0:02:53.080 --> 0:02:54.720 And I know they had to be something for him 0:02:54.760 --> 0:03:01.079 to seeing all the success Dickshaw had follow on his incarceration. Man, yeah, yeah, 0:03:01.160 --> 0:03:04.040 no for show man, and uh he done what twenty 0:03:04.120 --> 0:03:07.440 two years? He came home, he stayed home for two 0:03:07.560 --> 0:03:10.280 years and and now I've been going another with eight 0:03:10.360 --> 0:03:14.880 years or so. So you know it's, uh, the story 0:03:14.880 --> 0:03:18.360 ain't over with. But you know the motherck ain't ain't 0:03:18.400 --> 0:03:21.640 been pretty, you know, yeah, for sure, man. That's all 0:03:22.080 --> 0:03:24.720 sometimes man, usually that's the state. You know what I'm 0:03:24.760 --> 0:03:27.760 saying when we're dealing with the streets jay um, you know, 0:03:28.000 --> 0:03:30.679 just trying to take that flip side and trying to 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:32.880 do something better, something different, you know what I'm saying. 0:03:32.960 --> 0:03:36.000 Sometimes when we deep in that streets, you know, we 0:03:36.160 --> 0:03:38.240 kind of try to find our way out of it. 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.440 But then you know, sometimes when you come home, then 0:03:41.560 --> 0:03:45.800 then then them tests in the trials of what it 0:03:46.160 --> 0:03:48.240 is in the streets that got you there be be 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:53.040 kind of pulling you back in so to speak. Yeah, yeah, no, 0:03:53.200 --> 0:03:57.160 we we were definitely is aware of all the you 0:03:57.200 --> 0:04:00.320 know what I mean, all the uh, the different rigs 0:04:00.480 --> 0:04:03.960 that exist in the street. And a lot of times, uh, 0:04:04.160 --> 0:04:07.280 you know when we's it's two it's two things man 0:04:07.400 --> 0:04:11.600 that really that our witness that really uh keep a 0:04:11.640 --> 0:04:13.880 man in bundage, you know what I mean. And one 0:04:13.920 --> 0:04:17.240 of them is a lack of education, and that education 0:04:17.880 --> 0:04:20.080 is not just in school, but you know, we can 0:04:20.080 --> 0:04:23.559 be educated through our walk of life on the block, 0:04:23.839 --> 0:04:25.880 you know what I mean. And and the other one 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:29.599 is uh, bad habits. So you know when we when 0:04:29.600 --> 0:04:33.080 we make those bad habits, you know, such as testing 0:04:33.640 --> 0:04:37.719 this drug or this situation, then you know that's that's 0:04:37.760 --> 0:04:40.880 something that you might say, oh, I want to leave 0:04:40.920 --> 0:04:44.120 you alone, and then and say no, come back to me, 0:04:44.360 --> 0:04:46.279 and the next time, you know, you you're chasing that 0:04:46.360 --> 0:04:53.160 how to rest of your life, you know, temptations, especially 0:04:53.880 --> 0:04:56.960 just being in the streets. You know, you you that's 0:04:57.000 --> 0:04:59.040 all you really used to. That's how you really do. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.839 I mean, I've been there. You've been there, and it's 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.960 hard to get out of the streets. Like me, I 0:05:06.080 --> 0:05:08.720 wait until I get into my fifties. Just say fuck it, 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:12.040 you know what I'm saying. At some point you get 0:05:12.080 --> 0:05:14.280 tired of the streets because it's gonna beat you down. 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.280 If it don't beat you down, it's gonna lay you down, 0:05:18.080 --> 0:05:20.960 you know what I'm saying. And you just don't want 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:23.960 to give up when it's too late. Yeah, And and 0:05:24.000 --> 0:05:26.400 that's the real right there. You know, as you tuched 0:05:26.400 --> 0:05:28.880 on something man earlier that we always talk about Man, 0:05:28.960 --> 0:05:31.839 the drugs. I remember Man and the um. You know, 0:05:31.920 --> 0:05:34.480 in the early days, just wrapping music. Everything was pro 0:05:34.600 --> 0:05:36.560 black and if you was walking around on crack, he 0:05:36.640 --> 0:05:38.640 was looked at as a tweaker, as a gegeger. You 0:05:38.640 --> 0:05:40.599 didn't want to be to dude on crack because what 0:05:40.760 --> 0:05:43.240 nobody fool on with you. And it's like now that's 0:05:43.279 --> 0:05:45.880 the narrative that they pushed into our young black folks. Man, 0:05:45.880 --> 0:05:48.240 they're talking about popping the po talking about popping the 0:05:48.320 --> 0:05:50.680 Molley this and that. So it's like they don't make 0:05:50.720 --> 0:05:53.159 it a cool and I almost think it's a conspiracy 0:05:53.240 --> 0:05:57.440 man just against our people almost to push that narrative, 0:05:58.640 --> 0:06:03.320 and and and and then another thing, Jay, I mean, like, 0:06:03.520 --> 0:06:05.640 how how do you see it? You know, because you 0:06:05.720 --> 0:06:07.839 come from our class and our school of hip hop 0:06:08.120 --> 0:06:10.039 from back in the day when when we was on 0:06:10.080 --> 0:06:14.320 a different page. What do you think is leading the 0:06:14.440 --> 0:06:17.760 youth and the young dudes today as far as pushing 0:06:17.760 --> 0:06:25.800 that agenda in music? I'm I said, um, you know 0:06:26.000 --> 0:06:28.840 with what's going on from the days of when we 0:06:28.880 --> 0:06:32.120 was putting out records like me Face, Ghetto Boys, whatever, 0:06:32.240 --> 0:06:35.640 complicts to the days of now where you hear a 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.240 lot of youth advocating for the peel popping and the 0:06:39.720 --> 0:06:42.880 you know, the the DraCos and all of that. What 0:06:42.960 --> 0:06:46.839 do you think is misleading the hip hop artists and 0:06:46.880 --> 0:06:50.080 the young brothers today as far as why are they're 0:06:50.080 --> 0:06:52.719 going in that direction as far as music is concerned, 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:56.800 because like Still's saying, we looked upon drug heads back 0:06:56.839 --> 0:07:00.040 in our days, is man, what the fuck? And I 0:07:00.120 --> 0:07:04.400 would like the advocate, So what do you take on that? Yeah, 0:07:04.520 --> 0:07:08.080 you know, um, you know, first of first of all, 0:07:08.360 --> 0:07:11.920 you know, I think our generations have to take some 0:07:11.920 --> 0:07:15.040 some responsibility for a lot of this ship that's even 0:07:15.080 --> 0:07:17.560 going on the day to a certain extent, you know 0:07:17.640 --> 0:07:19.960 what I mean. And I you know, I'd be the first, 0:07:20.120 --> 0:07:23.520 you know, like like where my community is concerned, I'm 0:07:23.840 --> 0:07:26.920 might here right now, and you know, I remember it 0:07:27.000 --> 0:07:30.640 was a time that I helped, you know, destroy you know, 0:07:30.720 --> 0:07:34.160 the very community that I'm trying to uplift and and 0:07:34.160 --> 0:07:37.000 and Bill right now. So so I take responsibility and 0:07:37.080 --> 0:07:40.640 where that's concerned. But even though like you know, we 0:07:41.080 --> 0:07:45.000 we like the home is say, it wasn't no, it 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:47.200 wasn't in style to want to be a tweak or 0:07:47.280 --> 0:07:49.680 to want to be you know, on drugs. You know 0:07:49.680 --> 0:07:53.760 what I mean. Our you know, my heroes. You know, 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.840 I like to see a nigga ball from a dealer perspective. 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:00.880 But you know, now and I nine and shifting like 0:08:00.960 --> 0:08:05.160 took of three sixty and you know, uh, they got 0:08:05.160 --> 0:08:09.240 this ship rear twisted. And I try to uh uh 0:08:09.400 --> 0:08:13.320 like you know, inspire and and uplift these young brothers, 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:16.720 you know, and and you know, by encouraging them and 0:08:16.800 --> 0:08:20.400 letting them know a man. That's uh, that's damn. They're 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:23.720 close to suicide. It's just a matter of time before 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:26.800 you pop the wrong pill for this wrong ding take 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.480 place and you, you know, you get out of here. 0:08:29.520 --> 0:08:32.000 They're dying out here in my hood like flies popping 0:08:32.000 --> 0:08:35.920 them pig. Oh yeah, Man, that the opiates epidemic is serious, man, 0:08:35.960 --> 0:08:38.520 All through the South, all through the Midwest, you know, 0:08:38.600 --> 0:08:40.920 everywhere out here, man, and people losing their mind over 0:08:40.960 --> 0:08:44.000 them pills. And like I said, I think it's a conspiracy, 0:08:44.040 --> 0:08:47.000 which leads me to something. Man. Knowing that you started 0:08:47.080 --> 0:08:49.400 your career off as a music executive and you weren't 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:52.000 in the streets no more, how did the field man 0:08:52.000 --> 0:08:53.960 of law enforcement just hand it out for you the 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:55.800 way you did? Man? Because you kind of like the 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:57.720 hero one the hood. You're the first dude to fight 0:08:57.760 --> 0:09:02.120 them cats and win. Yeah. Well, you know along my 0:09:02.240 --> 0:09:07.320 whole journey, Uh, they wanted to kill me out here 0:09:07.360 --> 0:09:09.480 in Texas. You know what I mean? It was, It 0:09:09.520 --> 0:09:12.600 was It was that real to the extent where I 0:09:12.600 --> 0:09:16.440 think they understood my mind to the extent that I 0:09:16.520 --> 0:09:20.720 was gonna inspired generations to come and in these people. 0:09:21.640 --> 0:09:24.560 You can't underestimate you know these fays are all these 0:09:24.600 --> 0:09:28.800 three letter individuals. Man. They they said I had to 0:09:28.880 --> 0:09:31.880 kill me, you know literally, you know, I had to 0:09:31.920 --> 0:09:36.040 put together a farmer to to stop from being killed 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:41.000 throughout my whole journey, you know. And uh yeah, that 0:09:41.120 --> 0:09:47.320 does tie into that conspiracy that uh that I think 0:09:47.400 --> 0:09:49.960 still exists to this day. You know what I mean, 0:09:50.600 --> 0:09:54.920 I just happened to be one that you know, and 0:09:54.960 --> 0:09:57.960 I give our glory guard what es concerned because you know, 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:00.559 it was the time I was too ignorant to even 0:10:00.720 --> 0:10:04.960 uh uh thanks straight and could protection on my own hand. 0:10:05.080 --> 0:10:08.839 So me sliding through the cracks of me being able 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:13.440 to have this conversation and write the book that I wrote, 0:10:13.760 --> 0:10:18.840 you know, concerning my journey is uh like a chosen 0:10:18.880 --> 0:10:23.520 situation from up aboard, man, because everybody I know, you 0:10:23.559 --> 0:10:26.680 know that that interactive on the level and the playing 0:10:26.720 --> 0:10:31.000 field that I played on, you know, is out of here, 0:10:31.120 --> 0:10:36.200 uh going a long time. But every everybody gotta walk 0:10:36.240 --> 0:10:39.360 that walk. And when I see everybody gotta walk their walk, 0:10:39.520 --> 0:10:42.960 everybody go through the trials and trivelations of being in 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:46.079 the neighborhood, growing up in the neighborhood, dealing with the 0:10:46.160 --> 0:10:53.440 drugs and everything, everything above. But I think we have choices. 0:10:53.920 --> 0:10:57.440 We we we we we don't make those choices, you know, 0:10:57.520 --> 0:11:00.200 growing up in the hood, because we're moving fast and 0:11:00.240 --> 0:11:02.880 we ain't we ain't thinking about that. It's when we 0:11:02.960 --> 0:11:05.880 get in our thirties we're thinking like, damn, so you 0:11:06.000 --> 0:11:09.280 got this this new drugs, the peals in the land 0:11:09.360 --> 0:11:13.000 and all that ship. Cats still seeing their homies dive 0:11:13.200 --> 0:11:16.520 from this ship. But they're still doing it, and they're 0:11:16.520 --> 0:11:21.480 seeing it, just alterning their facial the appearance it. I mean, 0:11:21.559 --> 0:11:26.760 it's it's taken away from us. But how do I 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:29.719 mean my whole thing is to reach the neighborhood? How 0:11:29.760 --> 0:11:32.880 do you reach the little homies and tell them that 0:11:32.920 --> 0:11:35.280 this ain't the way to do it? I mean, they 0:11:35.280 --> 0:11:38.199 don't want to hear a conversation. So how has How 0:11:38.240 --> 0:11:42.240 does how you go by reaching I mean getting at 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:45.720 them little catch? Yeah, well, well you have to you 0:11:45.760 --> 0:11:50.360 have to set up infrastructure in place where you you 0:11:50.360 --> 0:11:53.880 you have the young whole, the young accountable, you know 0:11:53.920 --> 0:11:56.520 what I mean? How to be structured in place to 0:11:56.559 --> 0:12:01.559 the extent where uh uh, well no bus are concerned 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:05.520 and and and the numbers after after our wait, you know, 0:12:05.559 --> 0:12:11.080 whoever is in disagreement. Other words, it's infrastructures in place 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:13.920 out here where where I'm at, to the extent where 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:18.240 if one is out of line, then they know, okay, 0:12:18.920 --> 0:12:22.520 you're against the whole army. It's certain lines that you crossed. 0:12:22.920 --> 0:12:27.200 But but that structure, you know, that comes, you know, 0:12:27.280 --> 0:12:29.600 like y'all problem, I already know that comes with a 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.600 whole you know a lot of ships that you know, 0:12:34.480 --> 0:12:37.079 we can't ready to talk about right now. But structures, 0:12:37.120 --> 0:12:43.440 struct you know. But I know I know there exactly. Yeah, yeah, 0:12:43.480 --> 0:12:45.120 you know. And I was gonna ask you, you you know, 0:12:45.240 --> 0:12:47.080 going back to it, man, you know, because I read 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:48.920 the book, and I've been a rap a lot of 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:51.839 fan man since the original Get A Boys, you know 0:12:51.880 --> 0:12:54.160 what I'm saying, since it was juke boxing all them. 0:12:54.720 --> 0:12:57.320 So did you gave a lot of game? I don't 0:12:57.360 --> 0:12:59.160 know whether you know it or not, Man, you gave 0:12:59.200 --> 0:13:01.280 a lot of games, brothers like myself when I was 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:03.720 sitting on the east side of Cleveland, Ohio, because that 0:13:03.800 --> 0:13:05.720 was one of the first markets I think that y'all 0:13:05.760 --> 0:13:10.880 hitting right, Yeah, well, well the first city that embraced us. 0:13:10.920 --> 0:13:13.800 What your car going all right? Yeah? Yeah? Which which 0:13:13.880 --> 0:13:17.280 Cleveland ohiw you know that's crossed the street, right, So, 0:13:17.280 --> 0:13:21.760 so Chicago embraced us first. Matter of fact, the whole Midwest, 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.720 the whole Midwest embraced us before anybody in Yeah, and 0:13:26.760 --> 0:13:29.000 you gave a lot of inspiration at the beginning of 0:13:29.080 --> 0:13:32.040 those albums because it was like you almost listened to 0:13:32.120 --> 0:13:33.839 the albums just to hear what you was gonna say 0:13:33.840 --> 0:13:35.680 at the beginning of them. And you talk about you 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:37.720 know a lot of people, man, you talk about in 0:13:37.760 --> 0:13:41.680 particular man, the dude Chad Scott and the shoemaker dude, 0:13:41.720 --> 0:13:45.720 those are some dangerous cats. Yeah, hit man, get man's 0:13:45.760 --> 0:13:48.520 for the government. And that's what it seemed like they was. 0:13:48.559 --> 0:13:50.280 And I noticed, like you know, I read the book, 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:53.120 so they had you over. They tried to get you 0:13:53.160 --> 0:13:57.000 to pull over into a dirt McDonald's parking lot like 0:13:57.120 --> 0:13:59.440 he was like he was boot with the food and 0:13:59.559 --> 0:14:03.160 just people over there just to get done. Yeah. Yeah, no, 0:14:03.400 --> 0:14:06.680 Now I really believe, man, with with all of my heart, 0:14:06.760 --> 0:14:09.000 that they're gonna hit me that night, you know what 0:14:09.040 --> 0:14:13.560 I mean, the whole the whole set up, Uh were 0:14:13.600 --> 0:14:15.719 set up for a hit, you know what I mean. 0:14:15.840 --> 0:14:19.800 Other words, I had never got stopped and then a 0:14:19.920 --> 0:14:23.440 law told me to go somewhere and stop again. You know, 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.360 normally where you get stopped, that's where you get stopped, 0:14:26.920 --> 0:14:29.680 you know what I mean. But they directed me to 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:33.480 go in a or almost like a dog alley. But 0:14:33.480 --> 0:14:35.840 but even even before then, you know, they have been 0:14:35.840 --> 0:14:39.920 sending threats. You know, they have been um go reeling 0:14:40.000 --> 0:14:42.440 a lot of the homes in my hood and uh, 0:14:42.640 --> 0:14:45.160 sending a lot of death threats my way about what 0:14:45.360 --> 0:14:48.280 what's gonna happen with me? And you know, because of 0:14:48.320 --> 0:14:52.440 a lot of acquisations and ship like that. So I'm 0:14:52.520 --> 0:14:54.440 like every day of my life. You know, it was 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:57.280 a lifestyle how how I was marking, how we're moving. 0:14:57.400 --> 0:14:59.960 So even when they made that move, you know, it's 0:15:00.160 --> 0:15:04.240 like three four homers trailing me, so you know it 0:15:04.600 --> 0:15:07.400 was gonna be real ugly. But I just had enough 0:15:07.440 --> 0:15:10.720 sense to, uh, when I got to that light and 0:15:10.720 --> 0:15:13.560 they're talking about that dog, I say, I'm going over 0:15:13.600 --> 0:15:15.960 to the light. So I pull over to the light, 0:15:16.120 --> 0:15:20.040 you know what I mean? You know, Yeah, So that's 0:15:20.080 --> 0:15:24.080 how that went. Do you think, uh, you think that 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.160 they just had it out for you because of who 0:15:27.280 --> 0:15:29.760 you were trying to be or who you were becoming 0:15:29.880 --> 0:15:32.600 or trying to make your you know, you know, you 0:15:32.680 --> 0:15:35.240 have so much control as far as people respecting you, 0:15:35.320 --> 0:15:37.480 and on that level, do you feel they just just 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:41.160 hated the motherfucker just because Yeah, I think it was 0:15:41.200 --> 0:15:44.120 a combination of things. You know, when when when they 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.960 witnessed any of us, you know, come out the hood, 0:15:48.280 --> 0:15:51.760 you know, when they understand where we came from, and 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:55.680 they weren't able to distraught and and we started rising 0:15:56.120 --> 0:15:58.920 and not only do we rise ourselves, but we bring 0:15:58.960 --> 0:16:02.320 our loved ones. The home is with us and and 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.520 all of a sudden, you know, it's like a movement 0:16:06.720 --> 0:16:10.440 that played that that takes place where we're living better 0:16:10.480 --> 0:16:13.760 than them, right so you you, you know, a monfuker 0:16:13.840 --> 0:16:17.000 like put you on the hit list. Because definitely, like 0:16:17.080 --> 0:16:19.880 in my era when it wasn't when rap music wasn't 0:16:19.920 --> 0:16:23.080 even power, So the way the way the movement taking 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.560 place right now, this wasn't This wasn't happening the same 0:16:26.600 --> 0:16:29.840 way they they didn't have artists that had made it 0:16:29.880 --> 0:16:32.360 and went gold and ship like that. So you know, 0:16:32.440 --> 0:16:35.440 they may say fifty or a hundred niggas moving together 0:16:36.160 --> 0:16:38.720 and they're like, oh, this got to be a money 0:16:38.840 --> 0:16:41.720 laundering game or dope down whatever they may think, right, 0:16:41.760 --> 0:16:45.080 because it was the beginning stages or my movement and 0:16:45.120 --> 0:16:49.480 I'm exercising, you know, my dreams and whatnot, and and 0:16:49.560 --> 0:16:54.560 their objective was to stop there saw where I had 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:59.480 started and where I was going. You know, seen you 0:16:59.560 --> 0:17:02.480 almost reached doing some other stuff. You feel what I'm 0:17:02.520 --> 0:17:03.840 saying for you to do what she was doing was 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:06.439 real powerful because not only was you moving, but she 0:17:06.520 --> 0:17:09.359 was bringing other brothers up off the street with you. 0:17:09.359 --> 0:17:11.879 You know what because you kind of like the thumb, 0:17:13.160 --> 0:17:15.080 you know, me reading the book and everything, and I 0:17:15.160 --> 0:17:18.320 see how you are, Warren should you were going. The 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.240 other guy Earth got here too, you know, to watch 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:23.840 out You're moving. Everything is It's almost like you prophesied 0:17:23.920 --> 0:17:25.920 that coming, like God gave you that the ceremony in 0:17:25.920 --> 0:17:27.840 your head to say, hey man, the storm is coming. 0:17:28.160 --> 0:17:32.160 Watch y'all and watch yourself, you know, play square. Yeah, yeah, 0:17:32.560 --> 0:17:36.960 most definitely, man, h I definitely been blessed with the 0:17:37.160 --> 0:17:41.160 with the gift of intuition and discernment, and and that's 0:17:41.200 --> 0:17:44.800 what's saying my life a many times. And uh, you know, 0:17:44.840 --> 0:17:47.439 I always was the type of nigger that try to 0:17:47.560 --> 0:17:50.080 you know, share that with all the hom is I 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:52.760 interacted with, you know what I mean, where where I 0:17:52.800 --> 0:17:55.359 saw it a lot of time. You know, niggas, you know, 0:17:55.440 --> 0:17:57.879 they thought I was crazy. You know, they come and 0:17:57.880 --> 0:18:00.560 they get you tripping. You know. Even when I decided 0:18:00.640 --> 0:18:04.920 to go to Corporate America. You know, I remember being 0:18:05.000 --> 0:18:07.040 right out there in the l A with some of 0:18:07.040 --> 0:18:09.880 the homies on sunset, you know what I mean, And 0:18:09.880 --> 0:18:12.840 and and like them, here is what I'm gonna go to. 0:18:13.080 --> 0:18:15.080 This is the new game, you know what I mean. 0:18:15.119 --> 0:18:18.000 This was in the beginning of going, you know, to 0:18:18.160 --> 0:18:20.480 the rap. I said, this is the new game because 0:18:20.520 --> 0:18:24.119 I saw the vision and uh, you know, niggas laughing 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:26.320 thought all the crazy thing in the world. Nigger used 0:18:26.440 --> 0:18:30.479 to leave all of this for that. Yeah, look at 0:18:30.480 --> 0:18:32.680 it could be. I mean, ship if you're coming from 0:18:32.920 --> 0:18:35.040 you know, if you were in that lifestyle there, you know, 0:18:35.080 --> 0:18:37.800 they're figuring like you already winning the funk. You want 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:39.320 to funk with that rap, ship for it. And I 0:18:39.400 --> 0:18:42.080 already know in the beginning, you know, rap wouldn't real 0:18:42.160 --> 0:18:44.240 heavy for us in the South and on the West, 0:18:44.280 --> 0:18:46.520 you know what I'm saying. So I think the Baker 0:18:46.600 --> 0:18:49.320 was like man you're crazy as funk man here gonna 0:18:49.400 --> 0:18:52.199 get into this game because it wasn't solid for us 0:18:52.240 --> 0:18:55.040 at first. And you know, basically it was Catched like 0:18:55.200 --> 0:18:59.119 you who pioneer that independent game of being self sufficient 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.919 and starting on rap label, who gave people that open 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:06.320 eye that rap can be successful for a black entrepreneur. 0:19:06.520 --> 0:19:09.280 You know what I'm saying, not just on not just 0:19:09.440 --> 0:19:12.439 on the artist's aspect, but you can truly be an 0:19:12.560 --> 0:19:15.200 entrepreneur and a black man who can run a successful 0:19:15.280 --> 0:19:18.040 company by being as a record label, you know what 0:19:18.119 --> 0:19:21.399 I'm saying. But it all depends on who who that 0:19:21.720 --> 0:19:24.520 who the leader is, you know what I'm saying. And 0:19:24.560 --> 0:19:28.080 I got to have some kind of businesses. I worked 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:30.560 with Shild, I was I was one of the first 0:19:30.640 --> 0:19:34.520 that was with Shild. When Child came out, I actually 0:19:34.560 --> 0:19:39.320 walked away from it because I've seen it coming, uh 0:19:39.560 --> 0:19:44.080 bad things. So I lost my brother doing this situation too, 0:19:44.600 --> 0:19:49.280 and I just knew, I mean why Ship didn't take 0:19:49.320 --> 0:19:51.720 here to a lot of people was getting in his 0:19:51.800 --> 0:19:55.320 ear to tell him to slow down. Uh when he 0:19:55.400 --> 0:19:58.240 started drinking and all of that other Ship he became 0:19:58.800 --> 0:20:01.720 one of us. You know what I'm saying now, he's 0:20:02.080 --> 0:20:07.439 now he's just loose. Uh I told him before. You know, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:13.080 it's hard to to possess power because some other suckers 0:20:13.160 --> 0:20:16.639 don't know how to control power to being powerma, you 0:20:16.680 --> 0:20:21.359 know what I'm saying. So you think those cats didn't 0:20:21.359 --> 0:20:23.320 listen to you when you warned them? Why do you 0:20:23.480 --> 0:20:27.560 think he would listen to you? And and and your 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.720 way was working, his way didn't work. Why you don't 0:20:30.760 --> 0:20:35.199 think them cats listen? Well, you know, man, you know, 0:20:35.320 --> 0:20:39.320 pride to the motherfucker right and uh you know, like 0:20:39.320 --> 0:20:42.000 like like I've always been the type of dude. You know, 0:20:44.160 --> 0:20:46.800 I'd be inspired by nigga movement. You know, I try, 0:20:46.880 --> 0:20:51.280 I try, and uh uh take positive energy and being 0:20:51.320 --> 0:20:55.760 inspired by a movement versus you know, allowing jealousy and 0:20:55.880 --> 0:20:59.399 different ships. You know, my heart concerned and different things. 0:20:59.440 --> 0:21:04.240 And you know most of the home is you know, 0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:08.080 don't know how to differentiate where the tourists concerned. You 0:21:08.119 --> 0:21:11.600 know what I mean, A nigga see of another man 0:21:11.720 --> 0:21:14.920 making it malice and it's hard and he want to 0:21:15.000 --> 0:21:17.120 down him or you know what I mean, he want 0:21:17.119 --> 0:21:20.040 to take what he got versus you know, getting some 0:21:20.080 --> 0:21:23.719 wisdom from the situation. So it's um and and a 0:21:23.720 --> 0:21:25.520 lot of a lot of us do better when we 0:21:25.600 --> 0:21:29.080 know better. But you know, you said a mouthful, you 0:21:29.080 --> 0:21:33.400 know when you you know, if a man is intoxicated 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:36.480 or man, you know, pick up one of them them 0:21:36.560 --> 0:21:41.720 habits to like cloud is um is thinking ability, then 0:21:42.320 --> 0:21:45.720 that's a that's a hell of a crutch, you know. Yeah, 0:21:45.800 --> 0:21:48.160 that's a hell of a crutch that can get funk 0:21:48.240 --> 0:21:53.600 up your whole day. Damn your will, Yeah, damn your 0:21:53.640 --> 0:21:55.639 will because you know, you see the thing and you know, 0:21:55.680 --> 0:21:58.439 a lot of people talk about that. To me, I 0:21:58.480 --> 0:22:00.240 don't see them but saying this when I see that, 0:22:00.280 --> 0:22:03.159 because You've got a brother that had an opportunity and 0:22:03.200 --> 0:22:06.200 now it's just like you know, it's it's squandered. Man. 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:10.600 And really it made it hard for the next executives 0:22:10.600 --> 0:22:12.200 that was coming through the game, you know what I mean. 0:22:13.920 --> 0:22:18.480 And you know, I think, man is at one time, 0:22:18.520 --> 0:22:21.800 you guys were talking about starting to distribute the distributor right, 0:22:21.840 --> 0:22:26.919 your own distributed right at one time, you Sugar and 0:22:26.920 --> 0:22:29.280 Earth gott he was talking about starting up on your 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:35.360 own distribution company, correct exact. And you know, I think 0:22:35.359 --> 0:22:37.040 it's a lot of people in the country, Man, a 0:22:37.080 --> 0:22:39.000