1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,400 Speaker 1: Stop what you're doing right now. It's another episode of 2 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:05,720 Speaker 1: Against the Chronicles podcast and production of My Heart Radio 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:11,040 Speaker 1: and the Black Effects podcast Networks World. Why Why From 4 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: the Streets to the Yard. When I right, y'all all 5 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 1: across the USC Compton Watts, Thank to al A from 6 00:00:25,520 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: on the California Valley. The Valley we represent that Kelly County. 7 00:00:30,840 --> 00:00:32,920 Speaker 1: So if you're keeping it reil on your side of 8 00:00:32,960 --> 00:00:38,280 Speaker 1: your town, you tune into Gangster Chronicles, Gangs n the Goals. 9 00:00:38,479 --> 00:00:42,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna tell you how we go. If I line 10 00:00:42,200 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 1: my nose will girl like Pinocchio. We're gonna tell you 11 00:00:44,400 --> 00:00:47,839 Speaker 1: to choose nothing but the truth. Thanks the Chronic Goals. 12 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: It's not your average show. You're now tuned into the Rail, 13 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:56,720 Speaker 1: m C eight Day Change and Mixed Stairs Strictly from 14 00:00:56,800 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: the Streets. Hello, thank you for tuning into another episode 15 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: of Against the Chronicles podcast with me, Norm Steele and 16 00:01:06,480 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: my comrades Big James and m C eight Tonight we 17 00:01:09,640 --> 00:01:12,560 Speaker 1: have a special guest. This man puts the G and Gangster. 18 00:01:12,880 --> 00:01:14,960 Speaker 1: That's one of the most revered and respected members of 19 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 1: not only Southern hip hop, but the entire hip hop 20 00:01:17,959 --> 00:01:20,880 Speaker 1: nation and the streets. J Prince, the founder of Houston, 21 00:01:20,880 --> 00:01:23,440 Speaker 1: Texas based Rapp a Lot Records, introduced us the gainst 22 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: rap artist, sex of the Ghetto Boys, traded truth scar Faced, 23 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: Willie D, and others. His reputation proceeds him from his 24 00:01:30,319 --> 00:01:33,880 Speaker 1: ties with Chicago political prisoner Larry Hoover to his victory 25 00:01:33,880 --> 00:01:37,320 Speaker 1: over corrupt federal officers. J Princes revered and love and 26 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: not just his native Fifth Ward, Texas, but hoods all 27 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:43,600 Speaker 1: over urban America. What's happening to look? J oh yeah, 28 00:01:44,280 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: y'all doing that. We're all good, man. It's a pleasure 29 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:48,560 Speaker 1: to have you, don't hear what. It's a night we 30 00:01:48,680 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 1: go stick strictly to the party. Now. The company is 31 00:01:53,800 --> 00:01:56,360 Speaker 1: named after your brother, Sir rapp a Lot. Yeah, yeah, 32 00:01:56,440 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: you feel what You're putting your hustle to the curb 33 00:01:58,320 --> 00:02:00,840 Speaker 1: and everything to start a record company only to have 34 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: him wind up in the pin. Yeah. Well, you know, 35 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: I feel bad for him, you know what I mean. 36 00:02:06,960 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: I still feel bad for him, you know, all the 37 00:02:10,320 --> 00:02:14,360 Speaker 1: way up until this day, man, because you know, we 38 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 1: all know we had to live with the choices that 39 00:02:17,080 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: we make in life. And uh he uh at the time, 40 00:02:21,480 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 1: didn't really he had been burned you know how you 41 00:02:24,240 --> 00:02:27,639 Speaker 1: know how how woman get burned from from Nigga's proud 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,840 Speaker 1: to you getting with him and and and they they 43 00:02:30,880 --> 00:02:33,679 Speaker 1: don't believe you know what I mean, they'd be scarred, right. 44 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:37,239 Speaker 1: So I think my brother had got scarred for dealing 45 00:02:37,280 --> 00:02:41,960 Speaker 1: with people proud to dealing with me. And you know 46 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:45,960 Speaker 1: he didn't bleed, man, So he decided to do some 47 00:02:46,000 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: other ship, you know, and it costing twenty something years. Wow, man, 48 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,040 Speaker 1: that that's that's crucial right there, man, twenty some years. 49 00:02:53,080 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: And I know they had to be something for him 50 00:02:54,760 --> 00:03:01,079 Speaker 1: to seeing all the success Dickshaw had follow on his incarceration. Man, yeah, yeah, 51 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:04,040 Speaker 1: no for show man, and uh he done what twenty 52 00:03:04,120 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: two years? He came home, he stayed home for two 53 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: years and and now I've been going another with eight 54 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:14,880 Speaker 1: years or so. So you know it's, uh, the story 55 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 1: ain't over with. But you know the motherck ain't ain't 56 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:21,640 Speaker 1: been pretty, you know, yeah, for sure, man. That's all 57 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:24,720 Speaker 1: sometimes man, usually that's the state. You know what I'm 58 00:03:24,760 --> 00:03:27,760 Speaker 1: saying when we're dealing with the streets jay um, you know, 59 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:30,679 Speaker 1: just trying to take that flip side and trying to 60 00:03:30,720 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: do something better, something different, you know what I'm saying. 61 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:36,000 Speaker 1: Sometimes when we deep in that streets, you know, we 62 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 1: kind of try to find our way out of it. 63 00:03:38,360 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: But then you know, sometimes when you come home, then 64 00:03:41,560 --> 00:03:45,800 Speaker 1: then then them tests in the trials of what it 65 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:48,240 Speaker 1: is in the streets that got you there be be 66 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: kind of pulling you back in so to speak. Yeah, yeah, no, 67 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: we we were definitely is aware of all the you 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean, all the uh, the different rigs 69 00:04:00,480 --> 00:04:03,960 Speaker 1: that exist in the street. And a lot of times, uh, 70 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 1: you know when we's it's two it's two things man 71 00:04:07,400 --> 00:04:11,600 Speaker 1: that really that our witness that really uh keep a 72 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,880 Speaker 1: man in bundage, you know what I mean. And one 73 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:17,240 Speaker 1: of them is a lack of education, and that education 74 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: is not just in school, but you know, we can 75 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,559 Speaker 1: be educated through our walk of life on the block, 76 00:04:23,839 --> 00:04:25,880 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. And and the other one 77 00:04:26,080 --> 00:04:29,599 Speaker 1: is uh, bad habits. So you know when we when 78 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,080 Speaker 1: we make those bad habits, you know, such as testing 79 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: this drug or this situation, then you know that's that's 80 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: something that you might say, oh, I want to leave 81 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: you alone, and then and say no, come back to me, 82 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: and the next time, you know, you you're chasing that 83 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:53,160 Speaker 1: how to rest of your life, you know, temptations, especially 84 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 1: just being in the streets. You know, you you that's 85 00:04:57,000 --> 00:04:59,040 Speaker 1: all you really used to. That's how you really do. 86 00:05:00,040 --> 00:05:02,839 Speaker 1: I mean, I've been there. You've been there, and it's 87 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: hard to get out of the streets. Like me, I 88 00:05:06,080 --> 00:05:08,720 Speaker 1: wait until I get into my fifties. Just say fuck it, 89 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:12,040 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. At some point you get 90 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,280 Speaker 1: tired of the streets because it's gonna beat you down. 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:17,280 Speaker 1: If it don't beat you down, it's gonna lay you down, 92 00:05:18,080 --> 00:05:20,960 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And you just don't want 93 00:05:20,960 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 1: to give up when it's too late. Yeah, And and 94 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:26,400 Speaker 1: that's the real right there. You know, as you tuched 95 00:05:26,400 --> 00:05:28,880 Speaker 1: on something man earlier that we always talk about Man, 96 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 1: the drugs. I remember Man and the um. You know, 97 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 1: in the early days, just wrapping music. Everything was pro 98 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,560 Speaker 1: black and if you was walking around on crack, he 99 00:05:36,640 --> 00:05:38,640 Speaker 1: was looked at as a tweaker, as a gegeger. You 100 00:05:38,640 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 1: didn't want to be to dude on crack because what 101 00:05:40,760 --> 00:05:43,240 Speaker 1: nobody fool on with you. And it's like now that's 102 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: the narrative that they pushed into our young black folks. Man, 103 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 1: they're talking about popping the po talking about popping the 104 00:05:48,320 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 1: Molley this and that. So it's like they don't make 105 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: it a cool and I almost think it's a conspiracy 106 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:57,440 Speaker 1: man just against our people almost to push that narrative, 107 00:05:58,640 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: and and and and then another thing, Jay, I mean, like, 108 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: how how do you see it? You know, because you 109 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:07,839 Speaker 1: come from our class and our school of hip hop 110 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,039 Speaker 1: from back in the day when when we was on 111 00:06:10,080 --> 00:06:14,320 Speaker 1: a different page. What do you think is leading the 112 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 1: youth and the young dudes today as far as pushing 113 00:06:17,760 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: that agenda in music? I'm I said, um, you know 114 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:28,840 Speaker 1: with what's going on from the days of when we 115 00:06:28,880 --> 00:06:32,120 Speaker 1: was putting out records like me Face, Ghetto Boys, whatever, 116 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,640 Speaker 1: complicts to the days of now where you hear a 117 00:06:35,640 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: lot of youth advocating for the peel popping and the 118 00:06:39,720 --> 00:06:42,880 Speaker 1: you know, the the DraCos and all of that. What 119 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 1: do you think is misleading the hip hop artists and 120 00:06:46,880 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: the young brothers today as far as why are they're 121 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: going in that direction as far as music is concerned, 122 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:56,800 Speaker 1: because like Still's saying, we looked upon drug heads back 123 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,040 Speaker 1: in our days, is man, what the fuck? And I 124 00:07:00,120 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: would like the advocate, So what do you take on that? Yeah, 125 00:07:04,520 --> 00:07:08,080 Speaker 1: you know, um, you know, first of first of all, 126 00:07:08,360 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 1: you know, I think our generations have to take some 127 00:07:11,920 --> 00:07:15,040 Speaker 1: some responsibility for a lot of this ship that's even 128 00:07:15,080 --> 00:07:17,560 Speaker 1: going on the day to a certain extent, you know 129 00:07:17,640 --> 00:07:19,960 Speaker 1: what I mean. And I you know, I'd be the first, 130 00:07:20,120 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 1: you know, like like where my community is concerned, I'm 131 00:07:23,840 --> 00:07:26,920 Speaker 1: might here right now, and you know, I remember it 132 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:30,640 Speaker 1: was a time that I helped, you know, destroy you know, 133 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:34,160 Speaker 1: the very community that I'm trying to uplift and and 134 00:07:34,160 --> 00:07:37,000 Speaker 1: and Bill right now. So so I take responsibility and 135 00:07:37,080 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: where that's concerned. But even though like you know, we 136 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:45,000 Speaker 1: we like the home is say, it wasn't no, it 137 00:07:45,120 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: wasn't in style to want to be a tweak or 138 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,680 Speaker 1: to want to be you know, on drugs. You know 139 00:07:49,680 --> 00:07:53,760 Speaker 1: what I mean. Our you know, my heroes. You know, 140 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:56,840 Speaker 1: I like to see a nigga ball from a dealer perspective. 141 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:00,880 Speaker 1: But you know, now and I nine and shifting like 142 00:08:00,960 --> 00:08:05,160 Speaker 1: took of three sixty and you know, uh, they got 143 00:08:05,160 --> 00:08:09,240 Speaker 1: this ship rear twisted. And I try to uh uh 144 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,320 Speaker 1: like you know, inspire and and uplift these young brothers, 145 00:08:13,360 --> 00:08:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, and and you know, by encouraging them and 146 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 1: letting them know a man. That's uh, that's damn. They're 147 00:08:20,400 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 1: close to suicide. It's just a matter of time before 148 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: you pop the wrong pill for this wrong ding take 149 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 1: place and you, you know, you get out of here. 150 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 1: They're dying out here in my hood like flies popping 151 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:35,920 Speaker 1: them pig. Oh yeah, Man, that the opiates epidemic is serious, man, 152 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:38,520 Speaker 1: All through the South, all through the Midwest, you know, 153 00:08:38,600 --> 00:08:40,920 Speaker 1: everywhere out here, man, and people losing their mind over 154 00:08:40,960 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: them pills. And like I said, I think it's a conspiracy, 155 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:47,000 Speaker 1: which leads me to something. Man. Knowing that you started 156 00:08:47,080 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 1: your career off as a music executive and you weren't 157 00:08:49,400 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: in the streets no more, how did the field man 158 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: of law enforcement just hand it out for you the 159 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 1: way you did? Man? Because you kind of like the 160 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:57,720 Speaker 1: hero one the hood. You're the first dude to fight 161 00:08:57,760 --> 00:09:02,120 Speaker 1: them cats and win. Yeah. Well, you know along my 162 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:07,320 Speaker 1: whole journey, Uh, they wanted to kill me out here 163 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,480 Speaker 1: in Texas. You know what I mean? It was, It 164 00:09:09,520 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 1: was It was that real to the extent where I 165 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 1: think they understood my mind to the extent that I 166 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:20,720 Speaker 1: was gonna inspired generations to come and in these people. 167 00:09:21,640 --> 00:09:24,560 Speaker 1: You can't underestimate you know these fays are all these 168 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: three letter individuals. Man. They they said I had to 169 00:09:28,880 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 1: kill me, you know literally, you know, I had to 170 00:09:31,920 --> 00:09:36,040 Speaker 1: put together a farmer to to stop from being killed 171 00:09:37,120 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: throughout my whole journey, you know. And uh yeah, that 172 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: does tie into that conspiracy that uh that I think 173 00:09:47,400 --> 00:09:49,960 Speaker 1: still exists to this day. You know what I mean, 174 00:09:50,600 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: I just happened to be one that you know, and 175 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 1: I give our glory guard what es concerned because you know, 176 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 1: it was the time I was too ignorant to even 177 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: uh uh thanks straight and could protection on my own hand. 178 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 1: So me sliding through the cracks of me being able 179 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: to have this conversation and write the book that I wrote, 180 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:18,840 Speaker 1: you know, concerning my journey is uh like a chosen 181 00:10:18,880 --> 00:10:23,520 Speaker 1: situation from up aboard, man, because everybody I know, you 182 00:10:23,559 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: know that that interactive on the level and the playing 183 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:31,000 Speaker 1: field that I played on, you know, is out of here, 184 00:10:31,120 --> 00:10:36,200 Speaker 1: uh going a long time. But every everybody gotta walk 185 00:10:36,240 --> 00:10:39,360 Speaker 1: that walk. And when I see everybody gotta walk their walk, 186 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:42,960 Speaker 1: everybody go through the trials and trivelations of being in 187 00:10:42,960 --> 00:10:46,079 Speaker 1: the neighborhood, growing up in the neighborhood, dealing with the 188 00:10:46,160 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: drugs and everything, everything above. But I think we have choices. 189 00:10:53,920 --> 00:10:57,440 Speaker 1: We we we we we don't make those choices, you know, 190 00:10:57,520 --> 00:11:00,200 Speaker 1: growing up in the hood, because we're moving fast and 191 00:11:00,240 --> 00:11:02,880 Speaker 1: we ain't we ain't thinking about that. It's when we 192 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: get in our thirties we're thinking like, damn, so you 193 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: got this this new drugs, the peals in the land 194 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:13,000 Speaker 1: and all that ship. Cats still seeing their homies dive 195 00:11:13,200 --> 00:11:16,520 Speaker 1: from this ship. But they're still doing it, and they're 196 00:11:16,520 --> 00:11:21,480 Speaker 1: seeing it, just alterning their facial the appearance it. I mean, 197 00:11:21,559 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 1: it's it's taken away from us. But how do I 198 00:11:26,800 --> 00:11:29,719 Speaker 1: mean my whole thing is to reach the neighborhood? How 199 00:11:29,760 --> 00:11:32,880 Speaker 1: do you reach the little homies and tell them that 200 00:11:32,920 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 1: this ain't the way to do it? I mean, they 201 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:38,199 Speaker 1: don't want to hear a conversation. So how has How 202 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 1: does how you go by reaching I mean getting at 203 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,720 Speaker 1: them little catch? Yeah, well, well you have to you 204 00:11:45,760 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 1: have to set up infrastructure in place where you you 205 00:11:50,360 --> 00:11:53,880 Speaker 1: you have the young whole, the young accountable, you know 206 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,520 Speaker 1: what I mean? How to be structured in place to 207 00:11:56,559 --> 00:12:01,559 Speaker 1: the extent where uh uh, well no bus are concerned 208 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:05,520 Speaker 1: and and and the numbers after after our wait, you know, 209 00:12:05,559 --> 00:12:11,080 Speaker 1: whoever is in disagreement. Other words, it's infrastructures in place 210 00:12:11,400 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: out here where where I'm at, to the extent where 211 00:12:14,240 --> 00:12:18,240 Speaker 1: if one is out of line, then they know, okay, 212 00:12:18,920 --> 00:12:22,520 Speaker 1: you're against the whole army. It's certain lines that you crossed. 213 00:12:22,920 --> 00:12:27,200 Speaker 1: But but that structure, you know, that comes, you know, 214 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 1: like y'all problem, I already know that comes with a 215 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 1: whole you know a lot of ships that you know, 216 00:12:34,480 --> 00:12:37,079 Speaker 1: we can't ready to talk about right now. But structures, 217 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 1: struct you know. But I know I know there exactly. Yeah, yeah, 218 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:45,120 Speaker 1: you know. And I was gonna ask you, you you know, 219 00:12:45,240 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: going back to it, man, you know, because I read 220 00:12:47,160 --> 00:12:48,920 Speaker 1: the book, and I've been a rap a lot of 221 00:12:48,920 --> 00:12:51,839 Speaker 1: fan man since the original Get A Boys, you know 222 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:54,160 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, since it was juke boxing all them. 223 00:12:54,720 --> 00:12:57,320 Speaker 1: So did you gave a lot of game? I don't 224 00:12:57,360 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: know whether you know it or not, Man, you gave 225 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,280 Speaker 1: a lot of games, brothers like myself when I was 226 00:13:01,320 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 1: sitting on the east side of Cleveland, Ohio, because that 227 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:05,720 Speaker 1: was one of the first markets I think that y'all 228 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: hitting right, Yeah, well, well the first city that embraced us. 229 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: What your car going all right? Yeah? Yeah? Which which 230 00:13:13,880 --> 00:13:17,280 Speaker 1: Cleveland ohiw you know that's crossed the street, right, So, 231 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: so Chicago embraced us first. Matter of fact, the whole Midwest, 232 00:13:22,720 --> 00:13:26,720 Speaker 1: the whole Midwest embraced us before anybody in Yeah, and 233 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:29,000 Speaker 1: you gave a lot of inspiration at the beginning of 234 00:13:29,080 --> 00:13:32,040 Speaker 1: those albums because it was like you almost listened to 235 00:13:32,120 --> 00:13:33,839 Speaker 1: the albums just to hear what you was gonna say 236 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:35,680 Speaker 1: at the beginning of them. And you talk about you 237 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:37,720 Speaker 1: know a lot of people, man, you talk about in 238 00:13:37,760 --> 00:13:41,680 Speaker 1: particular man, the dude Chad Scott and the shoemaker dude, 239 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:45,720 Speaker 1: those are some dangerous cats. Yeah, hit man, get man's 240 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 1: for the government. And that's what it seemed like they was. 241 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:50,280 Speaker 1: And I noticed, like you know, I read the book, 242 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,120 Speaker 1: so they had you over. They tried to get you 243 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:57,000 Speaker 1: to pull over into a dirt McDonald's parking lot like 244 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:59,440 Speaker 1: he was like he was boot with the food and 245 00:13:59,559 --> 00:14:03,160 Speaker 1: just people over there just to get done. Yeah. Yeah, no, 246 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:06,680 Speaker 1: Now I really believe, man, with with all of my heart, 247 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:09,000 Speaker 1: that they're gonna hit me that night, you know what 248 00:14:09,040 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 1: I mean, the whole the whole set up, Uh were 249 00:14:13,600 --> 00:14:15,719 Speaker 1: set up for a hit, you know what I mean. 250 00:14:15,840 --> 00:14:19,800 Speaker 1: Other words, I had never got stopped and then a 251 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,440 Speaker 1: law told me to go somewhere and stop again. You know, 252 00:14:23,560 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 1: normally where you get stopped, that's where you get stopped, 253 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But they directed me to 254 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:33,480 Speaker 1: go in a or almost like a dog alley. But 255 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 1: but even even before then, you know, they have been 256 00:14:35,840 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 1: sending threats. You know, they have been um go reeling 257 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 1: a lot of the homes in my hood and uh, 258 00:14:42,640 --> 00:14:45,160 Speaker 1: sending a lot of death threats my way about what 259 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,280 Speaker 1: what's gonna happen with me? And you know, because of 260 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: a lot of acquisations and ship like that. So I'm 261 00:14:52,520 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: like every day of my life. You know, it was 262 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:57,280 Speaker 1: a lifestyle how how I was marking, how we're moving. 263 00:14:57,400 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 1: So even when they made that move, you know, it's 264 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 1: like three four homers trailing me, so you know it 265 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:07,400 Speaker 1: was gonna be real ugly. But I just had enough 266 00:15:07,440 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 1: sense to, uh, when I got to that light and 267 00:15:10,720 --> 00:15:13,560 Speaker 1: they're talking about that dog, I say, I'm going over 268 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,960 Speaker 1: to the light. So I pull over to the light, 269 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:20,040 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? You know, Yeah, So that's 270 00:15:20,080 --> 00:15:24,080 Speaker 1: how that went. Do you think, uh, you think that 271 00:15:24,600 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: they just had it out for you because of who 272 00:15:27,280 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 1: you were trying to be or who you were becoming 273 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,600 Speaker 1: or trying to make your you know, you know, you 274 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,240 Speaker 1: have so much control as far as people respecting you, 275 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,480 Speaker 1: and on that level, do you feel they just just 276 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: hated the motherfucker just because Yeah, I think it was 277 00:15:41,200 --> 00:15:44,120 Speaker 1: a combination of things. You know, when when when they 278 00:15:44,160 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: witnessed any of us, you know, come out the hood, 279 00:15:48,280 --> 00:15:51,760 Speaker 1: you know, when they understand where we came from, and 280 00:15:51,800 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 1: they weren't able to distraught and and we started rising 281 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 1: and not only do we rise ourselves, but we bring 282 00:15:58,960 --> 00:16:02,320 Speaker 1: our loved ones. The home is with us and and 283 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:06,520 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you know, it's like a movement 284 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:10,440 Speaker 1: that played that that takes place where we're living better 285 00:16:10,480 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 1: than them, right so you you, you know, a monfuker 286 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:17,000 Speaker 1: like put you on the hit list. Because definitely, like 287 00:16:17,080 --> 00:16:19,880 Speaker 1: in my era when it wasn't when rap music wasn't 288 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:23,080 Speaker 1: even power, So the way the way the movement taking 289 00:16:23,080 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: place right now, this wasn't This wasn't happening the same 290 00:16:26,600 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: way they they didn't have artists that had made it 291 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,360 Speaker 1: and went gold and ship like that. So you know, 292 00:16:32,440 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: they may say fifty or a hundred niggas moving together 293 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: and they're like, oh, this got to be a money 294 00:16:38,840 --> 00:16:41,720 Speaker 1: laundering game or dope down whatever they may think, right, 295 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:45,080 Speaker 1: because it was the beginning stages or my movement and 296 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 1: I'm exercising, you know, my dreams and whatnot, and and 297 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 1: their objective was to stop there saw where I had 298 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: started and where I was going. You know, seen you 299 00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:02,480 Speaker 1: almost reached doing some other stuff. You feel what I'm 300 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:03,840 Speaker 1: saying for you to do what she was doing was 301 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:06,439 Speaker 1: real powerful because not only was you moving, but she 302 00:17:06,520 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: was bringing other brothers up off the street with you. 303 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: You know what because you kind of like the thumb, 304 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:15,080 Speaker 1: you know, me reading the book and everything, and I 305 00:17:15,160 --> 00:17:18,320 Speaker 1: see how you are, Warren should you were going. The 306 00:17:18,320 --> 00:17:20,240 Speaker 1: other guy Earth got here too, you know, to watch 307 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:23,840 Speaker 1: out You're moving. Everything is It's almost like you prophesied 308 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:25,920 Speaker 1: that coming, like God gave you that the ceremony in 309 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:27,840 Speaker 1: your head to say, hey man, the storm is coming. 310 00:17:28,160 --> 00:17:32,160 Speaker 1: Watch y'all and watch yourself, you know, play square. Yeah, yeah, 311 00:17:32,560 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: most definitely, man, h I definitely been blessed with the 312 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:41,160 Speaker 1: with the gift of intuition and discernment, and and that's 313 00:17:41,200 --> 00:17:44,800 Speaker 1: what's saying my life a many times. And uh, you know, 314 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:47,439 Speaker 1: I always was the type of nigger that try to 315 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:50,080 Speaker 1: you know, share that with all the hom is I 316 00:17:50,240 --> 00:17:52,760 Speaker 1: interacted with, you know what I mean, where where I 317 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 1: saw it a lot of time. You know, niggas, you know, 318 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: they thought I was crazy. You know, they come and 319 00:17:57,880 --> 00:18:00,560 Speaker 1: they get you tripping. You know. Even when I decided 320 00:18:00,640 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: to go to Corporate America. You know, I remember being 321 00:18:05,000 --> 00:18:07,040 Speaker 1: right out there in the l A with some of 322 00:18:07,040 --> 00:18:09,880 Speaker 1: the homies on sunset, you know what I mean, And 323 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:12,840 Speaker 1: and and like them, here is what I'm gonna go to. 324 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,080 Speaker 1: This is the new game, you know what I mean. 325 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:18,000 Speaker 1: This was in the beginning of going, you know, to 326 00:18:18,160 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: the rap. I said, this is the new game because 327 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:24,119 Speaker 1: I saw the vision and uh, you know, niggas laughing 328 00:18:24,200 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 1: thought all the crazy thing in the world. Nigger used 329 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:30,479 Speaker 1: to leave all of this for that. Yeah, look at 330 00:18:30,480 --> 00:18:32,680 Speaker 1: it could be. I mean, ship if you're coming from 331 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 1: you know, if you were in that lifestyle there, you know, 332 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,800 Speaker 1: they're figuring like you already winning the funk. You want 333 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: to funk with that rap, ship for it. And I 334 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:42,080 Speaker 1: already know in the beginning, you know, rap wouldn't real 335 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,240 Speaker 1: heavy for us in the South and on the West, 336 00:18:44,280 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. So I think the Baker 337 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 1: was like man you're crazy as funk man here gonna 338 00:18:49,400 --> 00:18:52,199 Speaker 1: get into this game because it wasn't solid for us 339 00:18:52,240 --> 00:18:55,040 Speaker 1: at first. And you know, basically it was Catched like 340 00:18:55,200 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: you who pioneer that independent game of being self sufficient 341 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:02,919 Speaker 1: and starting on rap label, who gave people that open 342 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 1: eye that rap can be successful for a black entrepreneur. 343 00:19:06,520 --> 00:19:09,280 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, not just on not just 344 00:19:09,440 --> 00:19:12,439 Speaker 1: on the artist's aspect, but you can truly be an 345 00:19:12,560 --> 00:19:15,200 Speaker 1: entrepreneur and a black man who can run a successful 346 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: company by being as a record label, you know what 347 00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:21,399 Speaker 1: I'm saying. But it all depends on who who that 348 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:24,520 Speaker 1: who the leader is, you know what I'm saying. And 349 00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:28,080 Speaker 1: I got to have some kind of businesses. I worked 350 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: with Shild, I was I was one of the first 351 00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: that was with Shild. When Child came out, I actually 352 00:19:34,560 --> 00:19:39,320 Speaker 1: walked away from it because I've seen it coming, uh 353 00:19:39,560 --> 00:19:44,080 Speaker 1: bad things. So I lost my brother doing this situation too, 354 00:19:44,600 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: and I just knew, I mean why Ship didn't take 355 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 1: here to a lot of people was getting in his 356 00:19:51,800 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 1: ear to tell him to slow down. Uh when he 357 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:58,240 Speaker 1: started drinking and all of that other Ship he became 358 00:19:58,800 --> 00:20:01,720 Speaker 1: one of us. You know what I'm saying now, he's 359 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:07,439 Speaker 1: now he's just loose. Uh I told him before. You know, 360 00:20:09,200 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: it's hard to to possess power because some other suckers 361 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,639 Speaker 1: don't know how to control power to being powerma, you 362 00:20:16,680 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. So you think those cats didn't 363 00:20:21,359 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: listen to you when you warned them? Why do you 364 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,560 Speaker 1: think he would listen to you? And and and your 365 00:20:27,640 --> 00:20:30,720 Speaker 1: way was working, his way didn't work. Why you don't 366 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: think them cats listen? Well, you know, man, you know, 367 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:39,320 Speaker 1: pride to the motherfucker right and uh you know, like 368 00:20:39,320 --> 00:20:42,000 Speaker 1: like like I've always been the type of dude. You know, 369 00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,800 Speaker 1: I'd be inspired by nigga movement. You know, I try, 370 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:51,280 Speaker 1: I try, and uh uh take positive energy and being 371 00:20:51,320 --> 00:20:55,760 Speaker 1: inspired by a movement versus you know, allowing jealousy and 372 00:20:55,880 --> 00:20:59,399 Speaker 1: different ships. You know, my heart concerned and different things. 373 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: And you know most of the home is you know, 374 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:08,080 Speaker 1: don't know how to differentiate where the tourists concerned. You 375 00:21:08,119 --> 00:21:11,600 Speaker 1: know what I mean, A nigga see of another man 376 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,920 Speaker 1: making it malice and it's hard and he want to 377 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: down him or you know what I mean, he want 378 00:21:17,119 --> 00:21:20,040 Speaker 1: to take what he got versus you know, getting some 379 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,719 Speaker 1: wisdom from the situation. So it's um and and a 380 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of us do better when we 381 00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: know better. But you know, you said a mouthful, you 382 00:21:29,080 --> 00:21:33,400 Speaker 1: know when you you know, if a man is intoxicated 383 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,480 Speaker 1: or man, you know, pick up one of them them 384 00:21:36,560 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: habits to like cloud is um is thinking ability, then 385 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:45,720 Speaker 1: that's a that's a hell of a crutch, you know. Yeah, 386 00:21:45,800 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 1: that's a hell of a crutch that can get funk 387 00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 1: up your whole day. Damn your will, Yeah, damn your 388 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: will because you know, you see the thing and you know, 389 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:58,439 Speaker 1: a lot of people talk about that. To me, I 390 00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: don't see them but saying this when I see that, 391 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,159 Speaker 1: because You've got a brother that had an opportunity and 392 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:06,200 Speaker 1: now it's just like you know, it's it's squandered. Man. 393 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 1: And really it made it hard for the next executives 394 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,200 Speaker 1: that was coming through the game, you know what I mean. 395 00:22:13,920 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 1: And you know, I think, man is at one time, 396 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,800 Speaker 1: you guys were talking about starting to distribute the distributor right, 397 00:22:21,840 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: your own distributed right at one time, you Sugar and 398 00:22:26,920 --> 00:22:29,280 Speaker 1: Earth gott he was talking about starting up on your 399 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:35,360 Speaker 1: own distribution company, correct exact. And you know, I think 400 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,040 Speaker 1: it's a lot of people in the country, Man, a 401 00:22:37,080 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: lot of white people, man that wouldn't have liked to 402 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: see that happen, because you know, if you're a young 403 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:46,679 Speaker 1: black dude, man, everybody was kind of engine towards being independent. Anyway, 404 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: if you're a young brother and you see these three 405 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,000 Speaker 1: people that got all this knowledge, man, they go run 406 00:22:52,040 --> 00:22:54,840 Speaker 1: towards you before they go the other way. So do 407 00:22:54,880 --> 00:23:00,760 Speaker 1: you think they saw y'all as a vibal threat? Yeah, 408 00:23:00,840 --> 00:23:04,359 Speaker 1: now that's real talk. We're talk now, that's real talk. 409 00:23:04,440 --> 00:23:07,200 Speaker 1: You know, we all we had a meeting out there 410 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: in l A where we were uh strategizing, you know 411 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:15,320 Speaker 1: what I mean, because we all that was at a 412 00:23:15,400 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: time where everybody's ship was bubbling, So you know what 413 00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:22,120 Speaker 1: I mean, I felt like it was a good idea 414 00:23:22,800 --> 00:23:27,120 Speaker 1: to brainstorm and and like plant the seeds on on 415 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,080 Speaker 1: how can we take this ship to another level and 416 00:23:30,119 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 1: be uh lay a foundation for those that's gonna come 417 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,840 Speaker 1: behind us to have access you know what I mean 418 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 1: to some real black owned power. And uh what I 419 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:47,720 Speaker 1: think happened, Well, I think, uh we didn't keep it 420 00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:50,560 Speaker 1: under the radar the way we should have kept it. 421 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: And and the fits at the time they were they 422 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:57,600 Speaker 1: probably had everybody got damn phone tap. Uh, I think 423 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,399 Speaker 1: they got a whiff or what was happening that And 424 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:04,119 Speaker 1: as y'all know, they the motherfucker's hit everybody, you know 425 00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: what I mean, almost like simultaneously, you know, they turned 426 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:13,560 Speaker 1: the flame up and uh yeah, that's that's how they ran. Yeah, 427 00:24:13,560 --> 00:24:15,440 Speaker 1: you're doing it. And that's scary to think, man, that 428 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 1: they got that much power. Because we was talking to 429 00:24:17,680 --> 00:24:20,320 Speaker 1: a cat um last week on our last show. They 430 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: used to be in law enforcement. He was telling me 431 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:23,800 Speaker 1: how they do that, what's the what's the thing called 432 00:24:23,840 --> 00:24:27,199 Speaker 1: what they do with the phones, the geo fencing and 433 00:24:27,280 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: all that to where they can pretty much luck down 434 00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:39,600 Speaker 1: a perimeter here and everything that everybody talk about. Yeah, yeah, no, no, 435 00:24:39,600 --> 00:24:41,200 Speaker 1: Now it's real, ship, you know what I mean a 436 00:24:41,240 --> 00:24:43,560 Speaker 1: lot of a lot of people hear this, and and 437 00:24:43,680 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, it'd be hard for him to bleed that 438 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,520 Speaker 1: that the motherfucking operate like this, right. It almost sounded 439 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,760 Speaker 1: like some easy banker of and Shire to a lot 440 00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,280 Speaker 1: of niggas that that had. Uh. I don't know how 441 00:24:57,320 --> 00:25:00,679 Speaker 1: these people really work, so but but it's real, you 442 00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 1: know what I mean, they worked this way and you know, 443 00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: like in retrospect when you when you look at this, 444 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:10,000 Speaker 1: this this clown by the name of Chad Scott, this 445 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:15,000 Speaker 1: d A agent that uh that was that was that 446 00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,400 Speaker 1: a night that pulled me over the hand like football 447 00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:21,240 Speaker 1: painting up on his eyes and and and had an 448 00:25:21,560 --> 00:25:24,159 Speaker 1: army suit on in a in the cutlass. He was 449 00:25:24,200 --> 00:25:26,439 Speaker 1: in the cutlass. So you know what I mean, he 450 00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:30,479 Speaker 1: had all this ship on and and today with ten years, 451 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:35,679 Speaker 1: twelve years or whatnot. After all of that, because you know, 452 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,959 Speaker 1: as everybody to know my story, you know, I end 453 00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:41,920 Speaker 1: up talking to congress Woman Maxine Waters, who is out 454 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 1: there in California. Now you know, she's an angel to me, right, 455 00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: because none of these politicians out here in Texas, you 456 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,480 Speaker 1: know what I mean, they would have let they would 457 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:55,240 Speaker 1: have they would have sit back and let me die, 458 00:25:55,960 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But congress Woman Maxine Waters, uh, 459 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:04,480 Speaker 1: you know, had enough part to at least give me 460 00:26:05,040 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 1: because he was my thing, right, my thing was. Okay, 461 00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:12,280 Speaker 1: it's real clear to me that y'all trying to hit me. 462 00:26:12,960 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: So I don't want y'all to be upset if I 463 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:18,040 Speaker 1: come out on top, you know what I mean. So 464 00:26:18,400 --> 00:26:21,359 Speaker 1: I wanted to put this on notice. You know, the 465 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:25,880 Speaker 1: best way I possibly could to uh to be able 466 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,760 Speaker 1: to be free if I came out on top because 467 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:30,800 Speaker 1: I understood what you was trying to do for me. 468 00:26:31,400 --> 00:26:36,159 Speaker 1: So congress Woman Maxine Waters uh spoke up to me 469 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:40,800 Speaker 1: in places, spoke up for me in places where a 470 00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:44,159 Speaker 1: lot of these you know politicians wouldn't you know what 471 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean? Because she saw what was about to take place. 472 00:26:50,520 --> 00:26:53,800 Speaker 1: Thank God for sinces like her. Man. And you know 473 00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:55,960 Speaker 1: that's that's another thing you talk about. You know, you 474 00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,560 Speaker 1: see Maxine Waters came to your rescue. Man. That's what 475 00:26:59,600 --> 00:27:01,720 Speaker 1: I always up and talk to these brothers about. Man. 476 00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 1: We need more leaders to emerge from our community. Man, 477 00:27:07,040 --> 00:27:11,000 Speaker 1: whether it's black men or black women. Four situations like that, 478 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:12,920 Speaker 1: because right now you know what you figured. We got, 479 00:27:13,440 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 1: you know, minister Ferry con and he's eighty years old. 480 00:27:17,040 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 1: Where's the next to do that? Everybody can't everybody can't 481 00:27:20,320 --> 00:27:23,080 Speaker 1: be the basketball player, everybody can't be the rapper. Everybody 482 00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:26,280 Speaker 1: can't go get a podcast. But you can't put yourself, 483 00:27:26,359 --> 00:27:28,560 Speaker 1: like you said, knowledge of power. You can't put yourself 484 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: to school man and come back and be a great 485 00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:35,560 Speaker 1: service to your community. Yeah, yeah, no, that's real talking man. 486 00:27:35,680 --> 00:27:39,800 Speaker 1: And again you know what I mean. Uh, you know, 487 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,520 Speaker 1: she's an angel, you know what I mean. She's she's 488 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: in her eight is right now, but she got more 489 00:27:46,400 --> 00:27:50,840 Speaker 1: more more nutst than amn man I ever met, politician wise. 490 00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: You know what I mean, because you know I was 491 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 1: in that room when she took a stand and then 492 00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:00,400 Speaker 1: let them know, Okay, right is right, wrong is wrong, 493 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:03,600 Speaker 1: and he ain't by himself, you know what I mean. 494 00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 1: And I'm not gonna sit back and allow y'all to 495 00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,840 Speaker 1: execute you know what I mean. This's thing that you 496 00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:13,040 Speaker 1: know you're trying to do. Because here's a man like 497 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: this shoemaker guy had like eight to ten bodies. You 498 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,840 Speaker 1: know what I mean, that he had been down right, 499 00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: This is this is something that's highly unusual for anyone 500 00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:29,199 Speaker 1: officer to have killed that many people and steal on 501 00:28:29,280 --> 00:28:35,560 Speaker 1: the situation, you know what I mean, built oh for 502 00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,400 Speaker 1: so eight you know what I mean. So you know 503 00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: I just happened to uh to figure out how since 504 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 1: since I was on the investigation, I decided to investigate them, 505 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Man, And that's something we 506 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:52,160 Speaker 1: have to know when you're an investigation. They ain't got 507 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: to be a one way street, you know what I mean, 508 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,640 Speaker 1: you can investigate whoever is, you know what I mean, 509 00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,640 Speaker 1: especially if they're trying to funk with you and they're 510 00:28:59,640 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 1: trying to charge you know what your enemy is about? 511 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:05,600 Speaker 1: So how did you do that? How do you investigate 512 00:29:05,720 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 1: the law? I want to know this. How do I mean, 513 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,840 Speaker 1: how do you start this? Now this is a good ship. 514 00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:21,960 Speaker 1: How do you investigate the law? The best investigator tapped 515 00:29:22,120 --> 00:29:25,120 Speaker 1: to the bench one man I forgot his name, but 516 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:29,360 Speaker 1: uh yeah, I got the bench one and and bam, 517 00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 1: I let him know that he is this man that's 518 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 1: you know, trying to do this to me. I need 519 00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,520 Speaker 1: to know his history, you know what I mean, because 520 00:29:38,560 --> 00:29:41,800 Speaker 1: it's real. It was real clear to me, homing uh 521 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 1: from from the messages that he was sending sending me 522 00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: that you know, he wasn't a law Biden citizen, you 523 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:54,000 Speaker 1: know what I mean, even being a police right. And 524 00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: this is this is part of of us thinking outside 525 00:29:57,440 --> 00:30:01,040 Speaker 1: of the boxing. It's a part of being in fear. 526 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:04,680 Speaker 1: When when these people are you know, breaking rules and 527 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: different hit themselves, then we gotta shot a spotlight on 528 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 1: them because that's what they're trying to do to us, 529 00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,320 Speaker 1: put a spotlight on us, to kill us off. Then 530 00:30:14,600 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: that's a two way street for those that's not in 531 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: fear and in bundance. So that slowed the process when 532 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:25,320 Speaker 1: you did that, I mean, because they look at us 533 00:30:25,320 --> 00:30:27,479 Speaker 1: and they look at us as ignorant. They look at 534 00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 1: us as ignorant anyway, So for you to have the 535 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,960 Speaker 1: knowledge to turn to turn the same ship back on 536 00:30:34,080 --> 00:30:37,640 Speaker 1: them as that they portrayed the youth probably put their 537 00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,000 Speaker 1: ass in shock, because, like I said, that's the first 538 00:30:41,040 --> 00:30:43,920 Speaker 1: thing they think when they look at brothers from the neighborhoods, 539 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 1: they think we're so unintelligent and un uneducated to their 540 00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,960 Speaker 1: laws and what they can do and what they can't do. 541 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:54,440 Speaker 1: They just take us for typical, like I said, under 542 00:30:54,600 --> 00:30:58,360 Speaker 1: educated brothers to think that we would turn around and 543 00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:01,800 Speaker 1: turn the flashlight back on a ass in the same manner. 544 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,360 Speaker 1: What probably was the biggest motherfucking shock and surprise today, 545 00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:09,360 Speaker 1: ask they ever saw who the funk this motherfucker? I know, 546 00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: we are so used to saying or accepting whatever they 547 00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: throw at exactly we get pulled over. The first thing 548 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:19,640 Speaker 1: they do is asking some stupid ship like you don't 549 00:31:19,640 --> 00:31:22,600 Speaker 1: know your laws and ship, So you get caught up 550 00:31:22,640 --> 00:31:24,840 Speaker 1: because the first thing you do is you get intimidated 551 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: when you see that badge and that gun, because, let's 552 00:31:27,480 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: face it, a motherfucker coming out the neighborhood with a 553 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:33,880 Speaker 1: racial profile like that, you automatically know these motherfucker's gonna 554 00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: take me down for something or it's gonna be a 555 00:31:36,280 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 1: problem instead of educating itself to know the laws and 556 00:31:39,400 --> 00:31:42,160 Speaker 1: the positions that we can be in. So ship, that's 557 00:31:42,200 --> 00:31:44,880 Speaker 1: like a victory for us and ship learning the game 558 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: of investing the fucking I can investigate you as a citizen. 559 00:31:48,160 --> 00:31:53,040 Speaker 1: Fuck it right, you know. And while it got you 560 00:31:53,040 --> 00:31:56,960 Speaker 1: on you, I gotta ask you about this. Man. You're 561 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,480 Speaker 1: a person. Man is known man, you know, I got 562 00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of was in the soft Man to walk 563 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:04,960 Speaker 1: calm but carry a big stick. And when you put 564 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 1: out a courtesy notice to somebody, they tend to pay attention, 565 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:10,360 Speaker 1: you know, because you always touch him on the show 566 00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 1: the first man, exactly when you sit out, you shout 567 00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:17,040 Speaker 1: out to your son's man. He discovered one of the 568 00:32:17,080 --> 00:32:19,520 Speaker 1: biggest artists. Man, it's in the game right now, Drake, 569 00:32:21,000 --> 00:32:23,920 Speaker 1: And you know not, Drake. Ain't it something? As soon 570 00:32:23,960 --> 00:32:26,360 Speaker 1: as the ones discovered driver Drave his son is the 571 00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,200 Speaker 1: one discovered Draking. You know he took him over the 572 00:32:28,200 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: cash money many my son too though, Yeah Drake your son, Yeah, yeah, exactly. Man. 573 00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,320 Speaker 1: You know one of the biggest artists in the game. 574 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:38,440 Speaker 1: Don't never hear his name mixed up in no myths. 575 00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:40,240 Speaker 1: You can tell you come from good to the lex 576 00:32:40,360 --> 00:32:44,920 Speaker 1: you know, um you had this another courtesy notice man. 577 00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:53,680 Speaker 1: You know Mr Williams the bird Man. Yeah he was 578 00:32:53,880 --> 00:33:00,600 Speaker 1: awaken or sleeping giant, So let me put your bullet 579 00:33:00,960 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: don't notice by letting them know. Drake, his family and 580 00:33:06,480 --> 00:33:10,360 Speaker 1: the week gift from Puffy and should is on my radar. 581 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:15,640 Speaker 1: First of all, Puffy feeling like he can put his 582 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:20,440 Speaker 1: hands on my family, open the doors for his family 583 00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:24,840 Speaker 1: that he touched. You read what your soul and to 584 00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:30,000 Speaker 1: shook a bath on little Wayne nutseet. Do you know 585 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: I ride with Dray, so I accept any invitation you 586 00:33:34,840 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: want to bring. I'm your worst knife mash knife. By 587 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: the way, little Wayne is as management is a drawn 588 00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:52,720 Speaker 1: wrong and the lawyer there's a thief. So for all 589 00:33:52,800 --> 00:34:00,720 Speaker 1: of them together, disrespectful little pomp and two babies slim, 590 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:05,080 Speaker 1: I were not allowed get to stay on my track record. 591 00:34:05,520 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: That cash money took anything from me and my son 592 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:15,839 Speaker 1: right by me and pay every pent And dude, I'm 593 00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:19,759 Speaker 1: not gonna live grass around you. But if it then 594 00:34:19,840 --> 00:34:25,839 Speaker 1: you clown across me of my family. Mad noons, I'm 595 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:30,879 Speaker 1: gonna beat you home. I'm done, Talma done, Tom done. 596 00:34:33,280 --> 00:34:37,319 Speaker 1: Did he ever resolve that situation? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that 597 00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,279 Speaker 1: has been resolved. That has uh uh have ended, you 598 00:34:42,320 --> 00:34:45,880 Speaker 1: know what I mean. And of course, like like like 599 00:34:46,040 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 1: Birdman Master p you know, Tony Drake on them with 600 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: my students right them. Them are guys that I inspired, 601 00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:57,680 Speaker 1: that I you know, share my blueprint with and you 602 00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:01,000 Speaker 1: know they took ship to different levels, so you know 603 00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: them always been like the homer is and uh you 604 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: know that was the reason I allowed my son to 605 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:11,479 Speaker 1: you know, because that's some ship we could have done 606 00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:14,840 Speaker 1: right in how but I wanted to see him in 607 00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:18,600 Speaker 1: Little Wayne the next generation. Okay, y'all do y'all things, 608 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:24,880 Speaker 1: and uh, you know, unfortunately when you when you do 609 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:29,080 Speaker 1: things a certain way, you know what I mean, uh, 610 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,319 Speaker 1: which could be not the best way of doing ship. 611 00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:36,000 Speaker 1: You know, I don't, I don't I don't think that 612 00:35:36,280 --> 00:35:41,600 Speaker 1: Birdman them well, I know they didn't intentionally, No ship 613 00:35:41,800 --> 00:35:44,800 Speaker 1: was gonna go like it it went where I was concerned, 614 00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:47,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, they had done business prior 615 00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 1: to my involvement, and I end up coming into a 616 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 1: situation where they had, you know, taken what they've taken, 617 00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:58,640 Speaker 1: and you know, you know, like with with mc hammer, 618 00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: for example, the Home and Ham, I remember him selling 619 00:36:03,200 --> 00:36:05,760 Speaker 1: all of these means of records on that first album, 620 00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:09,279 Speaker 1: and he contemplating he gonna do the same thing on 621 00:36:09,320 --> 00:36:13,239 Speaker 1: the following one. And sometimes ship don't go that way, right, 622 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,360 Speaker 1: and you you better like spend all your you know 623 00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,319 Speaker 1: what I mean, paper and different ship thinking oh, this's 624 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 1: gonna happen again, so I can I can blow this right. 625 00:36:22,760 --> 00:36:26,279 Speaker 1: So so when the ship don't happen again, and and 626 00:36:26,400 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: so happened, I have to come in the loop. And 627 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:33,560 Speaker 1: you know, ship wasn't right because he had taken this 628 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 1: And now you know what I mean, you can't pay me, 629 00:36:37,600 --> 00:36:40,560 Speaker 1: but but I can't allow that to be no excuse 630 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 1: where my my son is concerned, you know what I mean. 631 00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:47,440 Speaker 1: We gotta, we gotta half hours. So that was a 632 00:36:47,480 --> 00:36:50,360 Speaker 1: long motherfucking way of answering that question, But yeah, we gotta. 633 00:36:52,800 --> 00:36:54,480 Speaker 1: That's funny, that's one of the things that people know 634 00:36:54,600 --> 00:36:57,640 Speaker 1: because I go when I heard that courtesy, Miss Jo said, Man, 635 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: this is damn should make me give the phoness in 636 00:36:59,400 --> 00:37:03,000 Speaker 1: that man a one. You know, Sai, I took a 637 00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:06,400 Speaker 1: long time to just say, fun, we got our Sometimes 638 00:37:07,440 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: like somethi, i't want to you don't want to confuse. 639 00:37:10,000 --> 00:37:12,280 Speaker 1: Motherfucker's out there because you know how people are twisting 640 00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:14,680 Speaker 1: your words up and twist ship up. But you know, 641 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,920 Speaker 1: because some people just can't take the simplicity in we 642 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: got what we had to get and that that was 643 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: just it. People will take that and twisted all into 644 00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,360 Speaker 1: different kind of forms and imaginations and ship and have 645 00:37:25,440 --> 00:37:28,840 Speaker 1: a motherfucker hanging from trees and motherfucking balconies and ship 646 00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,719 Speaker 1: just for just a clear discussion. You feel me, you know, 647 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: And that's an amazing twist, man, because you stepped into 648 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 1: two games man that they pretty much you don't see 649 00:37:41,080 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: too many people of coloring the CEO C No, you 650 00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:46,239 Speaker 1: got in the boxing world. Man, when you got into 651 00:37:46,239 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: the boxing lane and I said, man, he's really out 652 00:37:49,680 --> 00:37:52,480 Speaker 1: there doing this thing the box. How did you get 653 00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:56,960 Speaker 1: into that, bro? Man? Yeah, well, you know boxing always 654 00:37:57,040 --> 00:37:59,680 Speaker 1: was my first love before the music game. You know 655 00:37:59,680 --> 00:38:01,280 Speaker 1: what I mean. I used to I used to watch 656 00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: Don King. I used to I used to watch that ship. 657 00:38:04,040 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 1: I wanted to I wanted to be a fighter when 658 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,000 Speaker 1: I was when I was younger, you know. And that 659 00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 1: was one of my reasons I build a recreation boxing 660 00:38:11,600 --> 00:38:14,759 Speaker 1: gym and all that ship in my hood when I uh, 661 00:38:14,840 --> 00:38:16,799 Speaker 1: you know what the man got the means to do so. 662 00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,520 Speaker 1: But but that was my first love. Man. And uh, 663 00:38:20,560 --> 00:38:23,479 Speaker 1: you know, I always been a nigger, even to this day, 664 00:38:23,640 --> 00:38:26,480 Speaker 1: I exercise prayer, you know what I mean, even in 665 00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:29,440 Speaker 1: the midst of inn and everything I've done. A lot 666 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:33,520 Speaker 1: of a lot of nigger had a misconception of of 667 00:38:33,960 --> 00:38:37,320 Speaker 1: a man, you know, being a believer or follower guard 668 00:38:38,239 --> 00:38:41,279 Speaker 1: some weak about him, right, but some some of the 669 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:45,840 Speaker 1: some of the the top profits in the world with gangsters, 670 00:38:46,560 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, ladies down when when they 671 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:55,920 Speaker 1: when they had to right. So, so, yeah, you know, 672 00:38:56,560 --> 00:38:59,600 Speaker 1: I love boxing. I prayed for a champion man it 673 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 1: Uson's story. I prayed for a champion and and and 674 00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:06,760 Speaker 1: set up a meeting with Mike Tyson and Las Vegas. 675 00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:10,640 Speaker 1: You know, when he met with Tyson and uh, Tyson 676 00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:14,320 Speaker 1: embraced me. Tyson new you know about my movement where rapping. 677 00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:18,240 Speaker 1: I was concerned and uh, you know I've walked straight 678 00:39:18,239 --> 00:39:21,160 Speaker 1: into the gym watching him spaw. So I'm like, damn, 679 00:39:21,239 --> 00:39:24,239 Speaker 1: okay this I prayed and asked for a champion. So 680 00:39:24,280 --> 00:39:27,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, shoot, I'm right here. So me and Tyson 681 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,200 Speaker 1: leader Jim go to the house and have a meeting. 682 00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,720 Speaker 1: He put his wife at the time on the phone 683 00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: and uh, let him know that he want to work 684 00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:38,040 Speaker 1: with me. So I left his house thinking I'm on 685 00:39:38,080 --> 00:39:41,239 Speaker 1: the management team. But while I'm in that gym with him, 686 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: Florida Mayweather was you know, it came to me like 687 00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:48,560 Speaker 1: on two or three occasions, while I'm watching Mike Tyson spaw, 688 00:39:49,560 --> 00:39:52,840 Speaker 1: Floord Maywether like, hey, yeah, hey Jake, you know I 689 00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:54,839 Speaker 1: know a boy rapping that man whoo whoof I heard 690 00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,440 Speaker 1: this group? I heard this group. I don't know Floored. 691 00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,799 Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I don't know him. So 692 00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm like, cool, you know what I mean. I'm watching Mike. 693 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: Another time he come up me and give me it's nothing, 694 00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:07,960 Speaker 1: say j if you want to do something later on 695 00:40:08,120 --> 00:40:11,520 Speaker 1: man on my number, I come get you and woo woo. 696 00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:17,440 Speaker 1: So long story shot again, I called Mike Tyson. The 697 00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:21,520 Speaker 1: next day, they didn't cut his phone off. The the 698 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:26,400 Speaker 1: jew Boys Shelley Finkel here that I'm getting that Mike Tyson, 699 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be on the management team. His whole phone disconnected, 700 00:40:30,600 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: so I can't reach him. I can't reach him, So 701 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:37,839 Speaker 1: I'm left with Floyd Mayweather number. And I asked the home. 702 00:40:37,920 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: I said, let's just dude right here. He said, it's 703 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:43,600 Speaker 1: a hundred and thirty pounds champion. So a red light 704 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,319 Speaker 1: went off in my here, and I'm like, damn, I 705 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: prayed for a champion. So long story shot, me and 706 00:40:48,840 --> 00:40:52,120 Speaker 1: florda Donna deal man less than a week for the 707 00:40:52,160 --> 00:41:00,359 Speaker 1: next four years. Wow. And that was my aach other 708 00:41:00,360 --> 00:41:03,320 Speaker 1: stuff working. And you had a situation with that to 709 00:41:03,400 --> 00:41:05,279 Speaker 1: where you had another dude try to come in and 710 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:07,279 Speaker 1: run into ference in the game. You had to make 711 00:41:07,280 --> 00:41:09,839 Speaker 1: another courtesy call. We won't talk about that too much, 712 00:41:10,040 --> 00:41:12,040 Speaker 1: but I heard about that for a few people together. 713 00:41:12,400 --> 00:41:15,160 Speaker 1: You know, another demonstration got put down. You know what 714 00:41:15,200 --> 00:41:18,040 Speaker 1: I mean. It's about to take heed to these damn 715 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,840 Speaker 1: courtesy calls and ship don't get their ass put in 716 00:41:21,000 --> 00:41:25,239 Speaker 1: what I don't think I made a courtesy call, you know, 717 00:41:25,280 --> 00:41:28,960 Speaker 1: what I mean, norly. No, only a curtasy call is 718 00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:31,640 Speaker 1: connected to family. You know, I'll be trying, you know, 719 00:41:31,719 --> 00:41:33,719 Speaker 1: with family, you try to let him know. A man 720 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,280 Speaker 1: do right by exactly, you know. With but with those 721 00:41:38,360 --> 00:41:41,080 Speaker 1: as you know, some of them, you don't, you know, 722 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: you just have to, you know, take care of getting this, 723 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,480 Speaker 1: you know. Other words, that wasn't a call, that was 724 00:41:46,520 --> 00:41:51,200 Speaker 1: a come and get active. Yeah, that was activated right there. Man. 725 00:41:51,360 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: You know what, man, I can't say enough man about you, man, 726 00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:59,560 Speaker 1: because you signify everything that he was gangster. A lot 727 00:41:59,560 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: of people like them, you know, make the interpretations of gangsters. 728 00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:04,759 Speaker 1: The dude just running the streets doing dumb shit. You 729 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: a dude, take care of his family, take care of 730 00:42:07,040 --> 00:42:11,680 Speaker 1: his friends, don't build the empire through insmountable odds. Even 731 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,399 Speaker 1: going against somebody that got a ninety eight to synconviction rate, 732 00:42:14,480 --> 00:42:17,240 Speaker 1: you even undefeated with them. So you are the true 733 00:42:17,280 --> 00:42:21,880 Speaker 1: definition of gangster. I appreciate that, man, I appreciate that. 734 00:42:21,960 --> 00:42:26,040 Speaker 1: And before the feeling is new to where y'all concerned, 735 00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,440 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I've been knowing E and 736 00:42:28,480 --> 00:42:30,640 Speaker 1: I know you, homie, I don't I don't, I don't 737 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: know you, but I saw you. You know what I mean. 738 00:42:32,719 --> 00:42:35,120 Speaker 1: I saw you back in the day with with the 739 00:42:35,160 --> 00:42:37,719 Speaker 1: home is and for you to be free and be 740 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,040 Speaker 1: able to speak the way you're speaking right now, I 741 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:42,600 Speaker 1: understand what that means. You know what I mean, because 742 00:42:42,640 --> 00:42:44,759 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of us ain't even here 743 00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,640 Speaker 1: to be able to make the transition to even talk 744 00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: about it. Man, right, I gotta I got a question 745 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 1: for you before we go. You were speaking on how 746 00:42:56,600 --> 00:43:01,759 Speaker 1: how some people think it's weak to praise uh. Now, 747 00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:04,600 Speaker 1: I grew up thinking that if I used, if I 748 00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:07,040 Speaker 1: say thank you Jesus or all of that, and it's 749 00:43:07,040 --> 00:43:11,719 Speaker 1: still bothered me sometime today and and I wouldn't. I 750 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: wouldn't praise God. I wouldn't utter the word God in 751 00:43:15,120 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: my vocabulary. When I was game banking and in prison. 752 00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:22,919 Speaker 1: Through my prison time, I believed it was a sign 753 00:43:22,960 --> 00:43:28,800 Speaker 1: of weakness. I did believe that until I realized that 754 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,759 Speaker 1: that was my way out. So so was it the 755 00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,239 Speaker 1: same way for you as it will for me? And 756 00:43:35,600 --> 00:43:37,879 Speaker 1: you just really realized that this is the way out. 757 00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:42,160 Speaker 1: Because I'm still fighting, like sometimes I get stuck on 758 00:43:42,280 --> 00:43:46,080 Speaker 1: it and then I'll have my days where I'll be 759 00:43:46,160 --> 00:43:48,480 Speaker 1: on the phone and I you know, I tell my 760 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,840 Speaker 1: my my one of my fathers, thank you Jesus. Just 761 00:43:51,000 --> 00:43:54,520 Speaker 1: you know, God, God got you here. So I mean, 762 00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,080 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a transition that I'm going 763 00:43:57,120 --> 00:44:00,799 Speaker 1: through or I just need to stick with it. And man, 764 00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:11,080 Speaker 1: it is a great God. So did you have to Yeah? No, no, 765 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: that was It definitely was a process, you know what 766 00:44:14,200 --> 00:44:17,960 Speaker 1: I mean, Like like I exercise prayer all the way 767 00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:19,799 Speaker 1: through in the midst of all of that ship you're 768 00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:22,400 Speaker 1: talking about. You know what I mean. I never I 769 00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,880 Speaker 1: understood that that was a source of strength, you know 770 00:44:25,880 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 1: what I mean. I never, I never was mixed up 771 00:44:28,440 --> 00:44:31,360 Speaker 1: to the extent where I didn't know who he was. 772 00:44:31,680 --> 00:44:35,520 Speaker 1: You know, I understand that everything is controlled by Him 773 00:44:35,560 --> 00:44:38,359 Speaker 1: and everything a matter of fact, every blessing come from him. 774 00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:42,120 Speaker 1: So I understood that there as the creators in control. 775 00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:44,920 Speaker 1: But what what I what I done though, in in 776 00:44:45,040 --> 00:44:49,359 Speaker 1: my my journey, I strayed away and purposely didn't want 777 00:44:49,360 --> 00:44:52,719 Speaker 1: to hear it because what it would do to me 778 00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 1: is is give me a conscious where I know I 779 00:44:55,840 --> 00:44:59,080 Speaker 1: didn't need to have a conscious so so so I 780 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,640 Speaker 1: purposely it wasn't that I didn't know the truth. I 781 00:45:02,719 --> 00:45:06,479 Speaker 1: just purposely deviated and say, oh I can't I can't 782 00:45:06,520 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: hear none of that right now, because that can cause 783 00:45:09,680 --> 00:45:12,960 Speaker 1: me to lose my very life. This is how I'm 784 00:45:12,960 --> 00:45:15,120 Speaker 1: thinking as a you know what I mean, because I'm 785 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:17,759 Speaker 1: We're in the jungle, right We're in the jungle, and 786 00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:20,760 Speaker 1: a lot of times you don't have time to feel 787 00:45:20,840 --> 00:45:24,120 Speaker 1: sorry about nothing to even you know, think that where 788 00:45:24,160 --> 00:45:28,200 Speaker 1: you train yourself and you program your your mind and 789 00:45:28,320 --> 00:45:31,200 Speaker 1: different things that be hardness to do, dumb ship a 790 00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:36,000 Speaker 1: lot of times. But what I understood, uh, during my transition, 791 00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:39,880 Speaker 1: what my awakenings was, Oh, this is the strength, this 792 00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,279 Speaker 1: is the truth, this is the light. You know what 793 00:45:42,320 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: I mean. This is connected to everything I want to be, 794 00:45:46,000 --> 00:45:48,799 Speaker 1: everything I want to become, and how to get there. 795 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,000 Speaker 1: So you know what I mean. It's bundance to um 796 00:45:53,640 --> 00:45:57,399 Speaker 1: to think that something weak about you know, the one 797 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:03,080 Speaker 1: that control it all, man ship that I love that. 798 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: You know. I've been knowing you for a long time, 799 00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:08,680 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I've been seeing you since 800 00:46:08,719 --> 00:46:13,520 Speaker 1: my RAPP career started. Uh, You've always been inspirational, you 801 00:46:13,560 --> 00:46:15,879 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. You give brothers the hope that 802 00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: you know we can become something other than you know, 803 00:46:19,080 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: gang bangers and drug slanders, you know what I'm saying, 804 00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:26,040 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and and just just just just growing in you 805 00:46:26,080 --> 00:46:28,480 Speaker 1: know what I'm saying, handling their business, looking out for 806 00:46:28,480 --> 00:46:32,480 Speaker 1: the neighborhoods, and becoming inspiring. So that's all I wanted 807 00:46:32,520 --> 00:46:35,120 Speaker 1: to shake, just coming from me and where I come from, 808 00:46:35,160 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: compy growing up. You know Raby Records with a big 809 00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:42,759 Speaker 1: inspiration to shift. I wanted to design to rap a lot. Yeah, 810 00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:46,120 Speaker 1: you know. Likewise, man, I wanted your ads too, you 811 00:46:46,160 --> 00:46:48,200 Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know what I mean. I 812 00:46:48,280 --> 00:46:50,680 Speaker 1: wanted you man. And here's the here's the truth, man, 813 00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,680 Speaker 1: Like like, we're the most brilliant niggas. I believe in 814 00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:56,560 Speaker 1: the in the world. You know, street niggas, We're the 815 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: most brilliant niggas. I'm chating like I've been on other side. 816 00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:03,440 Speaker 1: I deal with them, street nigga. We're the most brilliant 817 00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: niggas in the world. It's just about you know, applying 818 00:47:06,680 --> 00:47:09,759 Speaker 1: our gifts. You know, we gotta have the discipline to 819 00:47:09,880 --> 00:47:13,919 Speaker 1: apply with gifts in corporate America, man, and and and 820 00:47:13,920 --> 00:47:16,560 Speaker 1: and and and if the truth be told, they don't 821 00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:20,000 Speaker 1: tick like we tick. They don't have the stamina, the 822 00:47:20,040 --> 00:47:23,719 Speaker 1: whole Uh, they don't have the heart that we have 823 00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:26,239 Speaker 1: from the ship we come through, you know what I mean. 824 00:47:26,280 --> 00:47:29,720 Speaker 1: And and when we make the decision to really apply 825 00:47:29,840 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: and focus on corporate America, to apply our talents, Unstoppable 826 00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:38,760 Speaker 1: Against The Chronicles podcast is the production of Our Heart 827 00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:41,080 Speaker 1: Radio and the Black Effects podcast