WEBVTT - 202: The Other Woman 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.720 Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in 0:00:02.759 --> 0:00:34.080 partnership with Higheartradiots, Katie Loves Well, Oh man, here we go. 0:00:34.280 --> 0:00:35.640 We should like do this. 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:43.600 Scandal Rewatch podcast Yale Unpacking the Toolbox Here Madias and. 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:47.159 Katie Los Katie. The last time I was thinking, do 0:00:47.200 --> 0:00:49.920 you go by just Katie Low's? Are you Katie Low Shapiro? 0:00:50.240 --> 0:00:53.639 Are you hyphenated last name? You said? Hell? No, I'm 0:00:53.680 --> 0:00:56.640 fucking Katie Lows, bitch. You know what I was in 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:00.320 the bear? Don't you know who I am? 0:01:00.640 --> 0:01:05.760 Anyway, Well, today we're talking about episode two oh two, Yes, 0:01:06.319 --> 0:01:10.640 the Other Woman, which aired on October fourth in twenty twelve, 0:01:10.680 --> 0:01:14.720 written by Heather Mitchell and directed by Stephen Cragg. 0:01:15.040 --> 0:01:15.200 Yes. 0:01:15.280 --> 0:01:22.160 Yes, and the guest star list is but we gotta 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:25.160 name it because here on the Scandal Rewatch podcast we 0:01:25.240 --> 0:01:27.839 respect our guest stops. 0:01:28.360 --> 0:01:34.080 Yes, because they're usually like pretty freaking amazing. Yeah. I 0:01:34.120 --> 0:01:37.920 mean the first main big one is uh Lorraine Toussain, 0:01:38.000 --> 0:01:41.839 who plays Nancy Drake, who is just a wonderful actress. 0:01:41.840 --> 0:01:43.760 She's she's one of those people that when you see 0:01:43.760 --> 0:01:45.240 her face, so you see her in one thing, you're like, 0:01:45.280 --> 0:01:47.120 oh my god, I've seen her in a thousand things, 0:01:47.400 --> 0:01:50.160 like she's in so much, she's a she's from Trinidad. 0:01:50.600 --> 0:01:51.800 Nice fun fact. 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.520 Yeah, nice fun fact there. But yeah, she's amazing. And 0:01:55.520 --> 0:01:58.600 then we got Elise Neil and John Diel Dial. How 0:01:58.600 --> 0:01:59.240 do you say that? 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.320 Maybe we'll just give it a deal, Dial Dial deal, 0:02:02.720 --> 0:02:03.840 John deel Dal deal. 0:02:04.120 --> 0:02:07.680 We got Leslie and John Deal played Ragewire. Who's Lindsay 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:08.560 Dwyer's dad? 0:02:08.840 --> 0:02:13.680 Oh that I watched this episode And now we're starting 0:02:13.720 --> 0:02:15.880 to get into the part of the Scandal Rewatch podcast 0:02:15.960 --> 0:02:17.600 Unpacking the two Box where I don't. 0:02:17.440 --> 0:02:18.800 Remember shooting that. 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:23.000 No, really, I distinctly remember standing with you outside of 0:02:23.000 --> 0:02:23.480 that motel. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:25.919 I remember that later in the episode. 0:02:26.040 --> 0:02:29.640 Yes, we'll talk about I do not remember shooting the 0:02:29.680 --> 0:02:30.440 scene with the dad. 0:02:30.800 --> 0:02:33.840 No, no, no, do you remember that? Do you remember 0:02:33.880 --> 0:02:37.640 the lady staring at Quinn at Lindsay Dwyer. Yo. I 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:39.880 wish we could have gotten her name and given her 0:02:39.919 --> 0:02:44.200 a shout out because homegirl is so freaking good and 0:02:44.280 --> 0:02:47.959 committed and annoying. Oh she's just perfect for the role. 0:02:48.480 --> 0:02:53.160 Oh dare this Smallotov mistress bitch come and sit in 0:02:53.200 --> 0:02:56.200 and have a fucking coffee in our small fucking at 0:02:56.240 --> 0:02:58.040 a looma California town. 0:02:58.680 --> 0:03:00.880 With her omelet on her plate that she never touches. 0:03:01.280 --> 0:03:02.840 I wrote in my notes, is it a wig or 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:03.400 not a whig? 0:03:04.160 --> 0:03:04.720 Not a wig? 0:03:04.919 --> 0:03:05.760 It's not a wig. 0:03:06.320 --> 0:03:09.560 I do kind of remember that woman. The other people 0:03:09.560 --> 0:03:12.799 we have is Leslie Grossman is Lisa, who's the DC corner. 0:03:12.840 --> 0:03:15.600 She was amazing. Marcus Bonoza's Chairman of Joint Chiefs. 0:03:15.600 --> 0:03:19.800 Greg Henry is Hollis Doyle, Debraah Mooney is Verna Thornton, 0:03:20.320 --> 0:03:23.520 who is constant recurring. Wendy Davis is Kimberly Mitchell. San 0:03:23.639 --> 0:03:27.320 McMurray is the US attorney Pat Wexler. Joe Holt, who's 0:03:27.320 --> 0:03:30.040 a friend of mine. As Secretary, he defends Virginia Louise 0:03:30.120 --> 0:03:31.600 Smith as Secretary of State. 0:03:31.680 --> 0:03:33.040 J Jackson's local anchor. 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:38.520 If y'all don't remember this episode, let's just jog yie, 0:03:38.600 --> 0:03:41.160 old memory, y old memory. 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:44.760 Olivia has to deal with the ramifications of Quinn's jaw 0:03:44.800 --> 0:03:47.440 dropping court verdict as Abbey continues to press Olivia for 0:03:47.560 --> 0:03:50.200 answers and Quinn takes a trip back home. The firm 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:52.320 represents the widow of a very prominent pastor who had 0:03:52.320 --> 0:03:55.200 a secret life with his mistress and son. Olivia works 0:03:55.200 --> 0:03:57.360 on striking a deal to keep Pastor Drake's other life 0:03:57.400 --> 0:04:01.120 a secret before the funeral. Meanwhile, in the White House, 0:04:01.520 --> 0:04:03.840 Cyrus and Fitz deal with a foreign policy emergency that 0:04:03.920 --> 0:04:07.760 was potentially fabricated by the CIA. What the hell, dude? 0:04:08.480 --> 0:04:09.920 That was stupendous. 0:04:10.040 --> 0:04:12.920 I also think your scandal pace is always so good 0:04:12.960 --> 0:04:16.599 because I understand what you're saying, like you're putting the 0:04:16.680 --> 0:04:18.159 inflection on the correct word. 0:04:18.440 --> 0:04:23.239 Listen, I thank you, But I always understand your scandal pace. 0:04:23.360 --> 0:04:25.880 So anyway, I have. 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.279 To admit sometimes I'm just not smart enough for this show. 0:04:29.400 --> 0:04:32.760 And either all of the CIA fabrication of what was 0:04:32.760 --> 0:04:36.320 going on, I was like, wait, hold up, mehy they 0:04:36.440 --> 0:04:36.880 do that? 0:04:37.160 --> 0:04:39.440 I was like, Yo, I know shit is corrupt, but 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:40.400 what the hell? 0:04:40.440 --> 0:04:43.280 Why are they just making a fucking photo of gen 0:04:43.480 --> 0:04:44.640 children in Sudan? 0:04:45.160 --> 0:04:47.400 Is it because the dude that did it? What is 0:04:47.440 --> 0:04:50.120 he the head of the CIA? Is it because he's 0:04:50.480 --> 0:04:53.200 he wants the president to go to war and he's 0:04:53.320 --> 0:04:56.200 a Republican and he wants me I don't fucking know. 0:04:56.279 --> 0:04:59.400 I was confused too well, let it be known here 0:04:59.480 --> 0:05:02.120 that Gar and I on this rewatch podcast we don't 0:05:02.160 --> 0:05:04.120 completely understand what's going on. 0:05:04.520 --> 0:05:08.080 Which listen, listen. I feel like a lot of the audience, 0:05:08.080 --> 0:05:11.080 our listeners will understand. And it's okay because this show 0:05:11.160 --> 0:05:15.520 has so much in it that it doesn't matter. Yes, 0:05:15.760 --> 0:05:18.000 But also, Katie, do you remember ever being on set 0:05:18.120 --> 0:05:21.000 like and I'd be like, I know me. Mostly I'd 0:05:21.000 --> 0:05:23.600 be like, Katie, I don't know what's happening, Like, what's 0:05:23.600 --> 0:05:24.800 happening on the show. 0:05:24.680 --> 0:05:28.600 Because yes, I remember we see the start of this 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.880 episode that Olivia and the President have started this relationship 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:37.839 where they're like old school fucking late night phone calls ye, 0:05:38.720 --> 0:05:41.200 where they're just like talking about their life and Olivia's 0:05:41.200 --> 0:05:44.160 in bed and she's like it can't keep taking calls 0:05:44.160 --> 0:05:45.200 from my married ex boyfriend. 0:05:45.400 --> 0:05:47.800 Yes, yeah, which is so cute. 0:05:48.160 --> 0:05:48.760 I think it's like. 0:05:48.720 --> 0:05:49.800 It's really normal. 0:05:50.240 --> 0:05:53.080 Yeah, weird to see them like normal, Like they're not 0:05:53.160 --> 0:05:56.240 at a white House dinner, they're not like on the trail, 0:05:56.440 --> 0:05:57.640 they're not doing any of those things. 0:05:57.680 --> 0:06:00.120 They're literally just like talking on the phone. 0:06:00.040 --> 0:06:03.200 Yeah, gossiping, right, They're just like like telling each other's 0:06:03.200 --> 0:06:05.400 shit from their day and stuff. Yeah it's okay. You know, 0:06:06.040 --> 0:06:08.200 for those of those of us who are little on 0:06:08.240 --> 0:06:10.240 the older side, that's the way we used to chat 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:12.440 with the people we were seeing or dating or whatever. 0:06:12.680 --> 0:06:14.760 You'd be on the phone for freaking hours. 0:06:14.839 --> 0:06:17.440 Oh my god. Yeah, my parents got me. 0:06:17.600 --> 0:06:20.560 I mean, this is some bougie ash fucking white privilege 0:06:20.560 --> 0:06:23.919 shit right here. My parents were my sixteenth birthday, I 0:06:23.920 --> 0:06:26.960 think got me my own phone line. I got my 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.400 own fucking line because I think my parents found out 0:06:29.400 --> 0:06:31.680 that it was like twenty five more cents like a 0:06:31.760 --> 0:06:33.960 fucking hour or whatever if they just gave me my 0:06:33.960 --> 0:06:36.840 own phone, because I was clogging that shit up, Like 0:06:37.160 --> 0:06:40.080 I was on the phone all day with bitches and 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:42.360 fucking night with boyfriends. 0:06:42.400 --> 0:06:44.640 Like I was just oh, yeah, that's the way it 0:06:44.680 --> 0:06:45.200 went down. 0:06:45.400 --> 0:06:49.400 Yeah yeah, Heremo, you didn't have your own line now. 0:06:49.600 --> 0:06:52.599 No, we had one phone hanging in the hallway of 0:06:52.640 --> 0:06:55.880 our New York City Washington Heights apartment with a cord. 0:06:56.160 --> 0:06:58.440 The only time it got bougie for us is when 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.320 my parents are like, we're like, we're gonna to buy 0:07:00.320 --> 0:07:05.039 a longer cored. I'd walk into like the bathroom and 0:07:05.080 --> 0:07:06.920 close the door in the kitchen. 0:07:06.720 --> 0:07:10.320 You'd have to hawk is a AA. 0:07:11.160 --> 0:07:14.000 Yep. I think this is the first time, right Katie, 0:07:14.040 --> 0:07:14.680 that we see him. 0:07:14.760 --> 0:07:17.000 Yeah, I think this is the first time we see 0:07:17.000 --> 0:07:18.200 you howk in AA. 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:22.239 Yeah. I remember shooting the scene, the AA scene because 0:07:22.240 --> 0:07:24.840 it was like just a few blocks away from Sunta Gower, 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:27.200 which is where the stage is where we shot Scandal, 0:07:27.440 --> 0:07:29.200 And it was like in the basement of a church, 0:07:29.840 --> 0:07:32.960 if I'm not mistaken, and it was really cool. And also, 0:07:33.040 --> 0:07:34.880 you know, I was gonna I was gonna say too, 0:07:34.920 --> 0:07:36.880 I have a sort of a history with A because 0:07:37.120 --> 0:07:39.680 my ex used to be in AA. But I used 0:07:39.680 --> 0:07:41.520 to go to the meetings with him. And I'm not 0:07:41.560 --> 0:07:45.120 an alcoholic. Well maybe i am, but no, just a 0:07:45.120 --> 0:07:46.080 little bit. But I don't have a. 0:07:46.000 --> 0:07:51.360 Problem, no disrespect it is with you, I know, no, no, 0:07:51.360 --> 0:07:55.480 no no. But you have a personal relationship to being 0:07:55.560 --> 0:07:56.679 a Alana. 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:59.840 Yeah yeah, yeah, right. But I used to go to 0:07:59.840 --> 0:08:02.240 the meetings and get so much out of them, like 0:08:02.280 --> 0:08:05.560 I really enjoyed because it's all about you know, very 0:08:05.600 --> 0:08:09.400 spiritual yes, and lifting the person up and giving them encouragement. 0:08:09.440 --> 0:08:12.640 It was it was wonderful and I really got a 0:08:12.640 --> 0:08:15.760 lot out of it. Those rooms are really really special. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.120 And so for you to get to stand there and 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:18.360 talk about fucking killing. 0:08:18.240 --> 0:08:21.000 People, yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's why I thought about 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:22.960 me going to the meetings, because I would go, But 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.120 it wasn't about having an addiction. It was I was 0:08:26.160 --> 0:08:28.560 just getting a lot more out of it just for 0:08:28.800 --> 0:08:31.560 life in general. And so, so huck Is doesn't have 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.200 an alcohol problem either, he's going because he's you know, 0:08:34.480 --> 0:08:38.840 whiskey represents him killing people and torturing people. So I 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.520 wonder if they would have done like a like coverage 0:08:41.559 --> 0:08:43.800 of like the with the people in the meeting, like 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.360 what the fuck is this guy talking about? Because he's like, 0:08:46.360 --> 0:08:47.520 I'm really good at drinking with. 0:08:47.800 --> 0:08:49.760 I don't think they ever flip it around. 0:08:49.800 --> 0:08:50.839 They never flip around. 0:08:51.000 --> 0:08:55.240 No interesting, but oh no, it totally works. 0:08:55.280 --> 0:08:58.480 I actually never even realized it until you just said that, Yeah, 0:08:58.559 --> 0:09:00.680 Quinn is being a stupid bid bitch. 0:09:02.720 --> 0:09:05.600 Quinn is so like's. 0:09:04.760 --> 0:09:08.600 Apartment and I'm like so mad, and so like, why 0:09:08.679 --> 0:09:12.640 is anyone telling me anything? Anyone messed up my life 0:09:13.000 --> 0:09:17.079 and no one's telling me why. And I mean, I 0:09:17.080 --> 0:09:19.320 don't know if other people got that out of my performance, 0:09:19.320 --> 0:09:22.920 but I definitely felt like nails on a chalkboard watching. 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.040 I think people fuck Whenn's frustration, right, I love this year. 0:09:27.080 --> 0:09:29.440 Her line to Olivia is like I got more sleep 0:09:29.480 --> 0:09:30.000 in prison. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:34.600 Oh my god, they tossed that away into a pillow 0:09:34.640 --> 0:09:37.319 because I doubt my acting choice was at all. 0:09:38.880 --> 0:09:40.360 Now I wasn't in these scenes. 0:09:40.360 --> 0:09:44.760 But the episode features like the America's pastor, Pastor Drake, 0:09:44.840 --> 0:09:48.640 who's incredible and obviously have this like very public beautiful 0:09:48.720 --> 0:09:53.960 marriage to U Lorraine Tucson's character Nancy Drake, but the 0:09:54.000 --> 0:09:57.120 whole time, for fifteen years he's been stripping this other 0:09:57.800 --> 0:10:01.120 woman named Anna Gordon. But you find the episode in 0:10:01.120 --> 0:10:05.959 like a classic Olivia Pope Opa handling the situation where 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:09.400 the wife calls they can't find Pastor Drake. You guys 0:10:09.480 --> 0:10:13.040 get led to a camera across the street from the 0:10:13.040 --> 0:10:16.600 hay Adams Hotel, and you are in the hotel and 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:21.960 you hear like ah, and they open the door and 0:10:22.000 --> 0:10:23.840 they find Pastor Drake. 0:10:24.720 --> 0:10:29.040 On top, oh, top of his mistress. 0:10:28.960 --> 0:10:32.080 And she's handcuffed to the bed, and no one knows 0:10:32.080 --> 0:10:34.280 it first until Huck kind of runs in and checks 0:10:34.280 --> 0:10:35.960 and knows, like right away, the guy's been dead and 0:10:36.000 --> 0:10:37.679 she's been like stuck under the air because the bro 0:10:37.800 --> 0:10:39.200 is like three hundred and fifty pounds. 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:41.800 Yeah, home was a big boy. What I found so 0:10:42.080 --> 0:10:45.360 amusing was watching the episode and the first thing that 0:10:45.440 --> 0:10:47.800 happens is Huck rushes in check is his pulse and 0:10:47.840 --> 0:10:50.160 he's like he's been dead. Was sohow is whatever the 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.600 fuck I said? And then Abby says something in Olivia 0:10:52.640 --> 0:10:55.000 and then there's a moment we're all just standing there 0:10:55.040 --> 0:10:56.880 like hmm, what do we do now? And the whole 0:10:56.920 --> 0:10:59.800 time watching the episode, I was like, this girl is 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:04.960 stuck under this large as man and nobody's like there 0:11:05.000 --> 0:11:09.559 was no nobody in rush to be like They're just like, dude. 0:11:10.280 --> 0:11:12.000 I didn't I'm gonna have to go back and wash 0:11:12.120 --> 0:11:15.400 because I did not catch that at all. I love 0:11:15.440 --> 0:11:18.280 the part of this scene is this this This is 0:11:18.320 --> 0:11:19.720 the scene where she's like, what do you need to 0:11:19.720 --> 0:11:21.200 do to get rid of the body? And you're like 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:26.240 five hundreds and you're like, you're like lusty. You're like lusty, 0:11:26.480 --> 0:11:29.800 like describing all the tools in which you would need 0:11:29.840 --> 0:11:33.400 to dispose of a body this big, and she'say, I 0:11:33.520 --> 0:11:36.200 mean to just move the body? 0:11:36.400 --> 0:11:40.520 Oh yeah, oh well then just like and your body 0:11:41.000 --> 0:11:43.800 some sheets. Yeah, you're like, you're. 0:11:43.760 --> 0:11:46.040 So psyched that you were going to cut this dude up. 0:11:46.240 --> 0:11:48.640 Yeah, but he's also super embarrassed, I think because he's like, 0:11:48.679 --> 0:11:49.120 oh my. 0:11:49.080 --> 0:11:51.280 God, You're like, oh my god, I'm so fucked up. 0:11:51.920 --> 0:11:55.040 Yeah, Like clearly you clearly Huck knows he has a 0:11:55.040 --> 0:11:58.240 problem because you're going to aa so like you know 0:11:58.480 --> 0:12:01.880 that things are a in your mental health. 0:12:02.040 --> 0:12:06.560 Yeah, and he could feel himself, you know, slipping, Yes, 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:09.480 and I'm going closer to the dark side. But yeah, 0:12:09.520 --> 0:12:12.200 that was such a great mind. Olivia's look to Huck 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:16.480 is like, motherfucker, I was talking about moving him, not 0:12:16.559 --> 0:12:19.240 chopping him up. Is so good, so good. But she's 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.960 also like, you know, like there's the fright in her face, like, 0:12:23.000 --> 0:12:25.160 oh my god, this motherfucker was ready. 0:12:24.880 --> 0:12:27.680 To check him up in the midst of this whole 0:12:28.840 --> 0:12:31.720 montage about moving his body because their goal is to 0:12:31.800 --> 0:12:36.000 like clean up the scene, which is super illegal, and 0:12:36.080 --> 0:12:39.600 to get that body back to in bed where he 0:12:39.640 --> 0:12:42.360 would live, like I mean, so that they can sort 0:12:42.400 --> 0:12:45.920 of stage it, like keeping his rep clean. That like 0:12:46.400 --> 0:12:48.560 if he's not found with the hooker, but he's found 0:12:48.600 --> 0:12:50.920 that he just like had a heart attack in bed 0:12:51.360 --> 0:12:53.920 then it would be much better for his look and 0:12:53.960 --> 0:12:56.480 his wife's reputation and his legacy and all of that. 0:12:56.520 --> 0:12:58.880 But in the midst of all these scenes, there's such 0:12:58.880 --> 0:13:03.640 a great scene between Dan Bucatinski and Jeff so much 0:13:03.640 --> 0:13:06.199 where he's yes, I hate that I married a Republican. 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:09.920 Yes I want a baby, a fat one, a smushy one. 0:13:10.200 --> 0:13:11.680 Yes, it's so cute. 0:13:12.120 --> 0:13:14.240 Oh it's so good. You know. I wrote down in 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.120 my notes that they they fight like a real couple. 0:13:18.160 --> 0:13:20.120 I mean, because we see couples on TV all the time, 0:13:20.120 --> 0:13:22.080 and sometimes, you know, you kind of get the chemistry, 0:13:22.120 --> 0:13:26.640 sometimes you don't. But I feel like like Dan and Jeff, 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.520 like their chemistry was fire from the beginning, like they 0:13:30.640 --> 0:13:34.600 just it just clicked. But also Jeff, Jeff and Dan. 0:13:34.640 --> 0:13:36.320 I was gonna say Jeff, because Jeff is a you know, 0:13:36.320 --> 0:13:38.400 as a straight man. He's married to Linda Lowe, who 0:13:38.400 --> 0:13:42.760 was our casting director, and but he Jeff is such 0:13:42.920 --> 0:13:46.800 an amazing, fucking skilled Like he's one of those actors 0:13:46.840 --> 0:13:50.559 that just is no joke. He's a genius. So I 0:13:50.640 --> 0:13:53.040 knew he was going to approach this gay character with 0:13:53.720 --> 0:13:57.880 you know, just complete completely embracing it and being as 0:13:57.920 --> 0:14:00.360 real as possible and not having any hang upsot it, 0:14:00.600 --> 0:14:02.840 and that comes across you know what I mean, Like 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:04.520 they really come across as a real couple. 0:14:04.760 --> 0:14:07.520 They totally do. And I think, I think when we 0:14:07.559 --> 0:14:08.719 have a mom will have to ask him. 0:14:08.720 --> 0:14:12.360 But I'm pretty sure he's played gay characters multiple times 0:14:12.360 --> 0:14:15.079 in his I think, yeah, I think he's played that, 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:19.000 like from his early twenties on. I think what's probably 0:14:19.080 --> 0:14:22.240 weirdest for them is that, And I can't wait to 0:14:22.240 --> 0:14:24.480 ask them about this, is that Jeff and Dan have 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:26.400 been real life friends for. 0:14:26.440 --> 0:14:28.840 Like twenty years. Oh, I didn't know that. 0:14:29.080 --> 0:14:31.480 I'm sure that it had nothing. 0:14:31.240 --> 0:14:31.720 To do with that. 0:14:31.800 --> 0:14:33.240 It would be weird if you were a girl too, 0:14:33.240 --> 0:14:35.560 But like they have to like make out, you know 0:14:35.600 --> 0:14:39.400 what I mean, Like like Linda cast Don Ruth, Dan 0:14:39.440 --> 0:14:43.920 Bugatinski's husband, Don Ruth is a big screenwriter and Linda 0:14:44.040 --> 0:14:45.760 cast his movies like twenty years ago. 0:14:45.840 --> 0:14:48.640 They've all four been friends for a very long time. 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.960 Wow, And so I think it was probably weirder than 0:14:52.000 --> 0:14:54.800 anything that. Like Jeff, oh shit, I'm don't have to 0:14:54.800 --> 0:14:57.040 make up with like a dear friend of mine, you know, 0:14:58.720 --> 0:14:59.480 than anything else. 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:04.840 Oh Okay, what about this part. 0:15:05.240 --> 0:15:08.080 Who was it in the script that all the OPA 0:15:08.200 --> 0:15:09.840 people use the same deodorant? 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:12.920 Oh my god, I wrote notes on that too, right. 0:15:13.080 --> 0:15:15.920 I think they were trying to give the feeling on 0:15:15.960 --> 0:15:17.960 the show that obviously they've been up all night and 0:15:18.000 --> 0:15:20.440 moving this guy and they're probably sweating, and they're all 0:15:20.480 --> 0:15:24.000 passing this deodorant. It's such an odd but like it's 0:15:24.000 --> 0:15:26.080 such an odd but interesting moment. Yeah. 0:15:26.160 --> 0:15:28.680 Yes, and you're the only one. Huk is the only 0:15:28.680 --> 0:15:30.320 one that does its. 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:31.520 Dirty ass and he's probably the one that needs it 0:15:31.520 --> 0:15:33.760 the most. I was like, what are you what are 0:15:33.800 --> 0:15:37.000 you doing? Like, put that ship under your arms. It's secret. 0:15:37.120 --> 0:15:39.480 We all know how strong secret is. 0:15:39.800 --> 0:15:43.200 It won't pick up this skank ass shit from one 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:44.800 person's arms to another. 0:15:45.040 --> 0:15:45.680 Like I feel like. 0:15:45.640 --> 0:15:50.000 It's a secret magic about secret that like you're gonna 0:15:50.040 --> 0:15:51.320 be fine. 0:15:51.800 --> 0:15:52.200 That is. 0:15:52.360 --> 0:15:54.240 I just loved it, Like I thought it was so 0:15:54.600 --> 0:15:57.880 familial and like we've been up all night and we 0:15:57.960 --> 0:15:59.360 have no fucking boundaries. 0:15:59.720 --> 0:16:01.920 Yeah, and there's no I love it. 0:16:01.960 --> 0:16:04.080 No one's even commenting on this, Like, no one's like 0:16:05.400 --> 0:16:08.800 and it's just like happening while you're working on the case. Yeah, 0:16:08.840 --> 0:16:12.360 And then we get to oh. I think this is 0:16:12.360 --> 0:16:14.200 when Quinn goes this sear, oh no, you come and 0:16:14.240 --> 0:16:16.760 you realize I'm gone, and I Quinn goes to see 0:16:16.760 --> 0:16:19.360 your dad, which I don't remember this. 0:16:20.680 --> 0:16:23.440 I don't remembering this scene. 0:16:24.000 --> 0:16:31.800 John John Deal Deal Deal Dal Deal. He's a fucking 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:34.720 dope actor. I love him. I love this. Oh yeah, 0:16:34.760 --> 0:16:36.920 he's been a ton of stuff. I looked up. I 0:16:36.960 --> 0:16:39.320 looked him up on IMDb and IMDb and he's done 0:16:39.360 --> 0:16:42.200 over one hundred and thirty one hundred and forty films 0:16:42.200 --> 0:16:45.240 and TV shows. Yeah, way, yeah. Some of his credits 0:16:45.240 --> 0:16:48.480 are escaped from or what's my number? I haven't but 0:16:48.520 --> 0:16:50.800 I'm going to write right after we finish this podcast 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:57.000 at my numbers ship. But in the meantime, John Deal 0:16:57.080 --> 0:16:59.800 Deal Dal Deal Deal, he was in Escape from Me, 0:17:00.320 --> 0:17:04.240 he was in Miami Vice, The Outer Limits, X Files. Yeah. Anyway, 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.680 he's been in a ton of stuff and he's really 0:17:06.680 --> 0:17:08.040 great in the episode you know. 0:17:08.000 --> 0:17:10.720 What's slowly coming back for me, which is making me sad. 0:17:11.040 --> 0:17:12.240 What is I. 0:17:12.080 --> 0:17:17.399 Kind of remember vaguely him saying like, oh, this is 0:17:17.440 --> 0:17:17.880 so great. 0:17:17.920 --> 0:17:19.679 I get cast as your dad. They're going to be 0:17:19.680 --> 0:17:20.960 bringing me back a lot. 0:17:21.320 --> 0:17:26.440 O so many Katie, I feel like so many actors 0:17:27.040 --> 0:17:29.720 and even me, I remember saying that to some actors, 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.320 like when they were cast like a Cux girlfriend. I'd 0:17:32.359 --> 0:17:34.240 be like, oh my god, this is awesome. You're for 0:17:34.320 --> 0:17:36.520 sure coming back. And then I'd be like, oh, they 0:17:36.600 --> 0:17:37.480 killed this bitch off. 0:17:37.680 --> 0:17:41.000 Oh good, well, body, all your girlfriends had a pretty 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:42.159 long run. 0:17:42.800 --> 0:17:43.000 You know. 0:17:43.200 --> 0:17:46.560 Actors are so like, we have to be nomadic. That's 0:17:46.640 --> 0:17:47.320 how it is. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:52.600 It's actually like unheard of to stay in want any 0:17:52.640 --> 0:17:55.440 one job for a long time, which was why scandal 0:17:55.520 --> 0:17:56.679 is such a unicorn. 0:17:56.960 --> 0:17:58.399 Yeah, but most of. 0:17:58.400 --> 0:18:02.320 The time that's not our story, and we go where the. 0:18:02.280 --> 0:18:03.120 Wind takes us. 0:18:03.240 --> 0:18:05.680 I mean, I've been cut out of so much fucking shit, 0:18:06.400 --> 0:18:08.880 and everyone has their story of like they've been fired, 0:18:08.960 --> 0:18:11.600 and then there's like amazing miracle stories like Bellamy Young, 0:18:11.680 --> 0:18:14.160 who I think was only to do like three episodes 0:18:14.160 --> 0:18:17.320 in season one or something. Yeah, So you know, there's 0:18:17.359 --> 0:18:20.280 like ups and downs and it is what it is. 0:18:20.320 --> 0:18:21.200 But I do. 0:18:21.040 --> 0:18:23.200 Remember the dad being like, oh man, I think they're 0:18:23.200 --> 0:18:23.840 gonna call me. 0:18:23.840 --> 0:18:26.879 Back, and I'm just like, fuck, man, no, I don't. 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.120 I don't remember what I said, but probably not something 0:18:29.160 --> 0:18:33.199 that made him feel any better, Go get a snack 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:34.400 and we'll be right back. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:41.520 Okay. Then what happens Giermo. 0:18:41.640 --> 0:18:43.760 Well, how goes to check on Quinn? Is the next 0:18:43.760 --> 0:18:47.399 thing that I have that sort of happens? Right? Yes, right. 0:18:47.440 --> 0:18:49.440 Olivia's like, go check on Quinn because she was a 0:18:49.480 --> 0:18:52.320 little bit jumpy this morning when you said asleep better 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:54.080 in prison all that stuff. So Fu goes to check 0:18:54.080 --> 0:18:56.600 on Quinn. She's nowhere to be found. 0:18:57.240 --> 0:19:00.800 Yep, because I went to Petaluma, California to visit my 0:19:00.880 --> 0:19:02.359 daddy to try to get back to them in my 0:19:02.400 --> 0:19:03.080 normal life. 0:19:03.160 --> 0:19:05.919 We're already at the point where you're meeting up with 0:19:05.960 --> 0:19:10.879 your dad and and Huck somehow miraculously shows up there, 0:19:11.359 --> 0:19:13.879 and Quinn's like, what the hell are you doing here? Like? 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.040 Can I not go anywhere without you? People like following me. 0:19:17.480 --> 0:19:18.840 I kind of remember shooting that. 0:19:18.920 --> 0:19:21.119 I feel like I have photos of that day that 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:24.760 I have to find, right, But Hucks, like, you have 0:19:24.960 --> 0:19:28.119 such a beautiful monologue to me. But we're at some 0:19:28.240 --> 0:19:32.040 like Motel six where I feel like, my god, you 0:19:32.080 --> 0:19:34.840 and I shot there like a thousand times. I don't 0:19:34.880 --> 0:19:37.640