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Speaker 1: Unpacking the Toolbox is a production of Shondaland Audio in

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Speaker 1: partnership with Higheartradiots, Katie Loves Well, Oh man, here we go.

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Speaker 2: We should like do this.

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Speaker 3: Scandal Rewatch podcast Yale Unpacking the Toolbox Here Madias and.

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Speaker 1: Katie Los Katie. The last time I was thinking, do

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Speaker 1: you go by just Katie Low's? Are you Katie Low Shapiro?

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Speaker 1: Are you hyphenated last name? You said? Hell? No, I'm

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Speaker 1: fucking Katie Lows, bitch. You know what I was in

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Speaker 1: the bear? Don't you know who I am?

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Speaker 3: Anyway, Well, today we're talking about episode two oh two, Yes,

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Speaker 3: the Other Woman, which aired on October fourth in twenty twelve,

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Speaker 3: written by Heather Mitchell and directed by Stephen Cragg.

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Speaker 2: Yes.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and the guest star list is but we gotta

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Speaker 3: name it because here on the Scandal Rewatch podcast we

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Speaker 3: respect our guest stops.

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Speaker 1: Yes, because they're usually like pretty freaking amazing. Yeah. I

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Speaker 1: mean the first main big one is uh Lorraine Toussain,

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Speaker 1: who plays Nancy Drake, who is just a wonderful actress.

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Speaker 1: She's she's one of those people that when you see

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Speaker 1: her face, so you see her in one thing, you're like,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, I've seen her in a thousand things,

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Speaker 1: like she's in so much, she's a she's from Trinidad.

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Speaker 2: Nice fun fact.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, nice fun fact there. But yeah, she's amazing. And

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Speaker 1: then we got Elise Neil and John Diel Dial. How

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Speaker 3: Maybe we'll just give it a deal, Dial Dial deal,

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Speaker 3: John deel Dal deal.

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Speaker 1: We got Leslie and John Deal played Ragewire. Who's Lindsay

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Speaker 1: Dwyer's dad?

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Speaker 3: Oh that I watched this episode And now we're starting

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Speaker 3: to get into the part of the Scandal Rewatch podcast

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Speaker 3: Unpacking the two Box where I don't.

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Speaker 2: Remember shooting that.

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Speaker 3: No, really, I distinctly remember standing with you outside of

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Speaker 3: that motel.

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Speaker 3: Yes, we'll talk about I do not remember shooting the

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Speaker 1: No, no, no, do you remember that? Do you remember

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Speaker 1: the lady staring at Quinn at Lindsay Dwyer. Yo. I

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Speaker 1: wish we could have gotten her name and given her

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Speaker 1: a shout out because homegirl is so freaking good and

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Speaker 1: committed and annoying. Oh she's just perfect for the role.

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Speaker 3: Oh dare this Smallotov mistress bitch come and sit in

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Speaker 1: With her omelet on her plate that she never touches.

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Speaker 1: I wrote in my notes, is it a wig or

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Speaker 2: Not a wig?

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Speaker 1: It's not a wig.

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Speaker 3: I do kind of remember that woman. The other people

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Speaker 3: we have is Leslie Grossman is Lisa, who's the DC corner.

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Speaker 2: She was amazing. Marcus Bonoza's Chairman of Joint Chiefs.

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Speaker 3: Greg Henry is Hollis Doyle, Debraah Mooney is Verna Thornton,

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Speaker 3: who is constant recurring. Wendy Davis is Kimberly Mitchell. San

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Speaker 3: McMurray is the US attorney Pat Wexler. Joe Holt, who's

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Speaker 3: a friend of mine. As Secretary, he defends Virginia Louise

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Speaker 3: old memory, y old memory.

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Speaker 1: Olivia has to deal with the ramifications of Quinn's jaw

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Speaker 1: Cyrus and Fitz deal with a foreign policy emergency that

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Speaker 1: was potentially fabricated by the CIA. What the hell, dude?

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Speaker 2: That was stupendous.

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Speaker 3: I also think your scandal pace is always so good

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Speaker 1: Listen, I thank you, But I always understand your scandal pace.

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Speaker 3: To admit sometimes I'm just not smart enough for this show.

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Speaker 3: And either all of the CIA fabrication of what was

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Speaker 3: I was confused too well, let it be known here

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Speaker 1: Which listen, listen. I feel like a lot of the audience,

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Speaker 1: our listeners will understand. And it's okay because this show

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Speaker 1: has so much in it that it doesn't matter. Yes,

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Speaker 1: But also, Katie, do you remember ever being on set

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Speaker 1: like and I'd be like, I know me. Mostly I'd

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Speaker 3: Because yes, I remember we see the start of this

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Speaker 3: I mean, this is some bougie ash fucking white privilege

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Speaker 3: And she's handcuffed to the bed, and no one knows

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Speaker 1: was yeah, like.

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00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,359
Speaker 3: For us on Sunset Boulevard where these people by the

442
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,600
Speaker 3: hour pieces of ship.

443
00:21:18,480 --> 00:21:21,720
Speaker 1: But it was so hot outside and they wardrobe came

444
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,360
Speaker 1: to me with a jacket and I remember being like,

445
00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:28,000
Speaker 1: what you want me to put on this jacket? And

446
00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:29,879
Speaker 1: they were like, yeah, you got to wear a jacket,

447
00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:32,840
Speaker 1: and I remember just being so upset and I fought

448
00:21:32,920 --> 00:21:35,040
Speaker 1: back and forth. I was like, but he could have

449
00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,959
Speaker 1: left it in the car all and they were like, no,

450
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:38,040
Speaker 1: you gotta put on the jacket.

451
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:40,879
Speaker 3: We always did that ship where we would try to

452
00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:41,840
Speaker 3: talk to him like I don't.

453
00:21:41,720 --> 00:21:42,400
Speaker 2: Need a bag.

454
00:21:42,600 --> 00:21:43,359
Speaker 1: I don't need a bag.

455
00:21:43,440 --> 00:21:46,280
Speaker 3: I have in my pockets, and they like, you have

456
00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:49,080
Speaker 3: to wear a bag. I don't need a jacket. Quinn

457
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 3: ran out of O PA. She doesn't need a jacket.

458
00:21:51,480 --> 00:21:53,880
Speaker 1: And they're like, it is put your jacket on in.

459
00:21:53,920 --> 00:21:55,359
Speaker 2: D C and no one will.

460
00:21:55,320 --> 00:21:57,840
Speaker 3: Believe it unless there's a fucking wool pea coat on

461
00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,399
Speaker 3: you exactly.

462
00:22:00,760 --> 00:22:02,439
Speaker 1: But it was such a great Yeah, that was a

463
00:22:02,480 --> 00:22:05,440
Speaker 1: really really sweet scene. And then and then he hands

464
00:22:05,440 --> 00:22:07,320
Speaker 1: her a coffee and then they you know, and then

465
00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,439
Speaker 1: they cut to the next scene. I loved it. In

466
00:22:09,480 --> 00:22:14,120
Speaker 1: this episode, Quinn is saying goodbye to Lindsay Dwyer. Right.

467
00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's either like you accept this new life and

468
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,159
Speaker 3: this new identity and jump both feet into working at

469
00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,240
Speaker 3: OPA and stop being a little bit.

470
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 1: Stop looking back, yeah.

471
00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 2: Or like leave but like you can't.

472
00:22:27,920 --> 00:22:30,760
Speaker 3: This life that you're running back to try to get

473
00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:31,880
Speaker 3: doesn't exist anymore.

474
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,199
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was watching the show too and looking at

475
00:22:34,200 --> 00:22:36,639
Speaker 1: that scene and thinking if this was me Giarmo who

476
00:22:36,680 --> 00:22:40,639
Speaker 1: they had done that to, I would be like help me.

477
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:44,679
Speaker 1: I'd be like like a big old sobbing like mess,

478
00:22:44,720 --> 00:22:48,080
Speaker 1: like please somebody put me in a hospital. I can't

479
00:22:48,119 --> 00:22:48,800
Speaker 1: do it is.

480
00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:51,320
Speaker 2: Like stranger thing'd be.

481
00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 3: Like what alternate reality plane of existence? Are you telling

482
00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:58,440
Speaker 3: me that I'm not the person I was? And here's

483
00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:01,560
Speaker 3: my new fucking identity. His boyfriend's been murdered and I've

484
00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:03,840
Speaker 3: been in a part of a huge fucking trial and

485
00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:08,640
Speaker 3: I miraculously got off Like yeah, no one's telling me anything,

486
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:13,440
Speaker 3: like it's insane, insane. The next scene that I think

487
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:16,640
Speaker 3: is is jumping to like the what makes this episode

488
00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:20,159
Speaker 3: so great is where Huck says, let's go home, and

489
00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:22,800
Speaker 3: you see what sort of accept like my new home

490
00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:25,720
Speaker 3: is Opa, and my new home is the identity of

491
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 3: Quinn Perkins. Yes Live and Fits are talking on the

492
00:23:29,240 --> 00:23:31,720
Speaker 3: phone about Pastor Drake and there this is where we

493
00:23:31,760 --> 00:23:33,400
Speaker 3: get into that thing we were talking about of it

494
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:35,440
Speaker 3: just being like normal and they're just like on their

495
00:23:35,480 --> 00:23:39,960
Speaker 3: phone and they're hysterical laughing because she confides and Fits

496
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 3: about how Pastor Drake actually died, Yeah, and he was

497
00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:49,159
Speaker 3: king Ki and and they're like hysterical and it's so cute.

498
00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 3: Like the scene totally takes a turn because Olivia is

499
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:56,560
Speaker 3: realizing through this episode that she is the mistress. Like

500
00:23:57,200 --> 00:24:01,200
Speaker 3: the whole episode is the parallel between Lorraine Tucson is

501
00:24:01,280 --> 00:24:06,679
Speaker 3: Nancy Drake being Melly and Elise Neil Azanna Gordon being Olivia. Like,

502
00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:11,720
Speaker 3: Olivia will never get the twenty Christmases that Melli gets

503
00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:16,040
Speaker 3: to be with. Right, She'll never have Fitz's babies, She'll

504
00:24:16,080 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 3: never She'll always.

505
00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,760
Speaker 2: Be the mistress, you know what I mean.

506
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 3: Yeah, And Olivia's sort of realizing it unfold as she's watching,

507
00:24:23,880 --> 00:24:27,120
Speaker 3: you know, her sort of experience unfolding in like the case.

508
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:27,359
Speaker 2: Of the week.

509
00:24:27,720 --> 00:24:31,080
Speaker 1: It's like mirroring her experience with it. Yeah, it's so

510
00:24:31,080 --> 00:24:31,560
Speaker 1: so cool.

511
00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 3: And she screams at him, I want you to cancel

512
00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: the autopsy.

513
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 2: That's what I want. I know.

514
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,040
Speaker 1: It goes from them cracking up and like being like

515
00:24:39,119 --> 00:24:42,040
Speaker 1: all cute see with each other to her like flipping

516
00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:44,480
Speaker 1: out and being like, yeah, this is what I want.

517
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:45,960
Speaker 2: And just screaming her fucking head off.

518
00:24:46,080 --> 00:24:50,200
Speaker 1: Fitz is whipped because he does it. He makes it happen.

519
00:24:50,240 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: He gives Olivia what she wants, and.

520
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 3: He just did it in the episode before, Yeah, doesn't

521
00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 3: he because he lets Quinn He's the reason why, you know,

522
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,160
Speaker 3: when Quinn's entire case just gets sort of shelved and

523
00:25:04,480 --> 00:25:07,120
Speaker 3: David Rosen jumps up and he's like, what the hell

524
00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 3: in only the way that Josh Malina can, but you realize,

525
00:25:11,720 --> 00:25:16,040
Speaker 3: like she keeps getting into deep doodoo, but she knows

526
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,680
Speaker 3: she can because she can always fucking call the bat phone.

527
00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:21,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think she knows that she's gotten wrapped

528
00:25:21,760 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 1: around her little finger, like she knows, she knows he's

529
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:25,920
Speaker 1: going to do what she says.

530
00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:31,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, okay. Lorraine Tussant has that most amazing scene

531
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:35,200
Speaker 3: with Melly. Lorraine Tussan's character Nancy Drake is supposed to

532
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:37,800
Speaker 3: have this like sit down for the press with Melly

533
00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,360
Speaker 3: about the America's pastor passing away, and she's taken some

534
00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 3: ship which looked so fun, right, and that's see when

535
00:25:46,800 --> 00:25:49,240
Speaker 3: Olivia is looking at her, he's kind of like, did

536
00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 3: you take something?

537
00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:55,159
Speaker 2: She's like, yeah, Zena, I don't know what. She's oh god.

538
00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:00,000
Speaker 3: Right now, and Olivia is like, we'll take some car.

539
00:26:01,240 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 3: And then Mellie sits down and she's like, my wife,

540
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 3: my husband was cheating on me and there wait, what

541
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:08,800
Speaker 3: did you say? And Mellie's like give us the room.

542
00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:11,040
Speaker 3: I just think we need a private moment to pray.

543
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:15,159
Speaker 3: And then there's amazing monologues where like, of course, I

544
00:26:15,200 --> 00:26:21,080
Speaker 3: mean Scott Scandal, television does not get monologues too for

545
00:26:21,240 --> 00:26:24,879
Speaker 3: gladiators listening, Like every TV show that G and I

546
00:26:24,920 --> 00:26:28,719
Speaker 3: have been on, which is a lot, monologues are a

547
00:26:28,800 --> 00:26:33,960
Speaker 3: theatrical theater vehicle. They're not in TV. So to be

548
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,680
Speaker 3: on Scandal, where people got I mean Jeff Perry's character

549
00:26:36,720 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 3: fits his character, Olivia Huck, Joe Morton, everybody got beautiful monologues,

550
00:26:43,960 --> 00:26:46,440
Speaker 3: and they trusted the actors to be able to hold

551
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:50,280
Speaker 3: the screen like for minutes alone, like not popping back

552
00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:51,879
Speaker 3: and forth around between people.

553
00:26:51,960 --> 00:26:55,240
Speaker 1: It's just like like mouthwatering monologues like we were. I

554
00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,800
Speaker 1: remember always being so excited when we would get our monologues.

555
00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:00,720
Speaker 1: I mean, we'd be sort of scared. In the beginnings.

556
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:02,240
Speaker 1: We were like, oh my god, it's so many words.

557
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,960
Speaker 1: But then it was like reciting a soliloquy. It was

558
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,520
Speaker 1: just so so good. It was so satisfying to say

559
00:27:08,560 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 1: the words. But also in this scene, I'm glad they

560
00:27:10,880 --> 00:27:14,120
Speaker 1: didn't go for like the cookie cutter sort of angle

561
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:20,040
Speaker 1: before we see Melly consoling missus Drake. Olivia is telling

562
00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:22,840
Speaker 1: Missus Drake just say thank you, just say thank you

563
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:25,119
Speaker 1: to everybody, just you know, just look at them and

564
00:27:25,160 --> 00:27:28,280
Speaker 1: say thank you. But in that moment, Lorene Tussan's character

565
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:31,680
Speaker 1: tells Melly he was cheating on me or whatever she says.

566
00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,159
Speaker 1: It's real, Like that's real life. I feel like that's

567
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,159
Speaker 1: what a woman would do in that moment and be like,

568
00:27:36,200 --> 00:27:39,399
Speaker 1: fuck that shit, he was cheating on me, a freaking cheater.

569
00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: It was just such a real moment. It snaps you

570
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 1: out of show for a second because you're like, oh, shit,

571
00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:47,840
Speaker 1: like this is She's telling her the truth. It's so good,

572
00:27:47,920 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: it's so juicy, it's so great.

573
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,040
Speaker 2: It's so good. Those two ladies are Oh, they're so

574
00:27:54,200 --> 00:27:55,119
Speaker 2: fucking good together.

575
00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: And who better to console like right for missus Drake

576
00:27:59,000 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: than Mellie, who is you know, experiencing the same thing

577
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:03,240
Speaker 1: with Olibya and her husband.

578
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 3: Ye, And then I wrote down David Rosen gets canned.

579
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:11,560
Speaker 1: He sure does.

580
00:28:12,359 --> 00:28:17,600
Speaker 3: God we are about to embark on season two should

581
00:28:17,680 --> 00:28:25,400
Speaker 3: just be called Let's shop on David Rosen the entire season,

582
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:32,320
Speaker 3: which Let's get gladiators, Let's get humped, this guy gets fucked,

583
00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:35,919
Speaker 3: not in a good way, right and left. Like, this

584
00:28:36,119 --> 00:28:45,959
Speaker 3: guy gets fired sexually scared. Yes, people are hunting him down.

585
00:28:46,320 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 3: He's it is a mess his life. This is the

586
00:28:49,480 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 3: beginning of the worst shit ever for this guy.

587
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:55,000
Speaker 2: So let's put a pause on that.

588
00:28:55,320 --> 00:28:58,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, and also, just real quick, the gentleman who fires

589
00:28:59,320 --> 00:29:02,040
Speaker 1: David Rosen. And the actor's name is Sam McMurray, who

590
00:29:02,120 --> 00:29:04,560
Speaker 1: is another I think Katie. When I looked him up,

591
00:29:04,560 --> 00:29:08,120
Speaker 1: he had like one hundred and ninety nine credits, film

592
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:10,480
Speaker 1: credits and TV credits. Yes, and I've done two things

593
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: with him. I did a show called United We Fall

594
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:15,640
Speaker 1: with him, and I did a movie called Second Serve

595
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 1: with him. He was also in Adams Family Values, he

596
00:29:18,120 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: was on The Golden Girls, he was on Miamivice. Yes, anyway,

597
00:29:22,000 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: this actor is amazing. His name is Sam McMurray.

598
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:27,160
Speaker 3: He's one of those I've never known him. I didn't

599
00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:28,720
Speaker 3: work with him on the Skin, but when I watched this,

600
00:29:28,840 --> 00:29:30,000
Speaker 3: I was like, oh my god, that dude.

601
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:31,640
Speaker 2: He's one of those dudes that has literally been in

602
00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: fucking everything.

603
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:39,280
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, okay, that's There's an emotional scene in

604
00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: the episode where the wife grabs the mistress and her

605
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:44,920
Speaker 3: son and takes everybody goes up to the casket to

606
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,000
Speaker 3: say goodbye to Pastor Drake.

607
00:29:46,760 --> 00:29:50,440
Speaker 2: And it's so listen, emotional and great.

608
00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:53,560
Speaker 1: I don't know if Mercury is in retrograde this month,

609
00:29:53,600 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 1: but I fucking sobbed again watching this episode, in that

610
00:29:57,200 --> 00:30:00,239
Speaker 1: moment when she grabs her out of the pew and

611
00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,080
Speaker 1: she's like come, like she grabs her and like pulls it,

612
00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:04,240
Speaker 1: like like tugs in.

613
00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 3: Her closes man and we are going to say goodbye

614
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:08,120
Speaker 3: to him and bury him.

615
00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,560
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it's so good.

616
00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:13,200
Speaker 1: And can we talk for a second about Elise Neil

617
00:30:13,680 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: alist Neil was in Scream two Get directed by Wes Craven.

618
00:30:19,080 --> 00:30:21,320
Speaker 1: She played She played one of the friends, one of

619
00:30:22,160 --> 00:30:24,400
Speaker 1: Sydney's friends in the beginning of the film and then

620
00:30:24,680 --> 00:30:26,520
Speaker 1: she I believe she gets murdered. I have to go

621
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: back and watch it. But also Scream. She's in Scream two,

622
00:30:30,120 --> 00:30:33,600
Speaker 1: and Scott Foley is actually in Scream three. He's the

623
00:30:33,720 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: killer in Scream three.

624
00:30:35,120 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 3: Katie, See, I don't watch horror movies because I'm terrified

625
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:39,760
Speaker 3: and hate them and so scared.

626
00:30:40,320 --> 00:30:44,920
Speaker 2: Yes, I had no idea. Yeah, Scream three.

627
00:30:45,480 --> 00:30:50,239
Speaker 3: That scene is beautiful, is beautiful, and they followed up

628
00:30:50,240 --> 00:30:53,600
Speaker 3: with an amazing another great scene between Melly and Fits

629
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:56,560
Speaker 3: where they're in the limo and Melly is just like,

630
00:30:56,600 --> 00:30:58,560
Speaker 3: you have to forgive me, you have to forgive me,

631
00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:01,080
Speaker 3: you have to forgive me, like because they're like our

632
00:31:01,120 --> 00:31:03,200
Speaker 3: friend of ours just died, like either of us could

633
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:04,000
Speaker 3: die tomorrow.

634
00:31:04,600 --> 00:31:05,840
Speaker 2: And he's like, I forgive you.

635
00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 3: And they kiss, but then they as soon as they

636
00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 3: sort of kiss and hug, not a real kiss, it's

637
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 3: like a peck, yeah, and like a quick hug, and

638
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,560
Speaker 3: then they move back apart to the opposite sides of

639
00:31:14,560 --> 00:31:16,600
Speaker 3: the windows in the in the limo, and it's like,

640
00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:18,480
Speaker 3: my god, these people are so fucking broken.

641
00:31:18,640 --> 00:31:20,800
Speaker 1: Well mostly Fits, right, Fits is kind of the one.

642
00:31:20,840 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: He's like holding her and telling I forgive you, and

643
00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 1: then he goes back to his paperwork and Mellie's like hello, Yeah, She's.

644
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,240
Speaker 2: Like this relationship is fucked. Oh and she's pregnant.

645
00:31:30,480 --> 00:31:32,840
Speaker 1: And she's pregnant Katie. This is one of those moments

646
00:31:32,840 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 1: which I'm embarrassed to say. I was like, what is

647
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:36,360
Speaker 1: she asking him to forgive her for?

648
00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:37,120
Speaker 2: I know?

649
00:31:38,160 --> 00:31:40,840
Speaker 1: Is it? Because just all the does he know about

650
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: He doesn't know about Cytron and all that stuff yet, right.

651
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 2: No, but you know, well, well she knows because she

652
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,560
Speaker 2: rigged the election, right, she knows? What is about that?

653
00:31:52,240 --> 00:31:52,320
Speaker 1: He?

654
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:54,800
Speaker 2: This is what happened.

655
00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 3: They're starting this season two storyline where they're trying to

656
00:31:57,960 --> 00:31:59,800
Speaker 3: push Fits into a war that it seems like he

657
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:04,560
Speaker 3: does doesn't want in Sudan, and somebody mocks up even

658
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 3: go so far as to like mock up a photo

659
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,040
Speaker 3: in this episode of Sudanese children who have been like murdered,

660
00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 3: and everyone's pushing for this war, and even Melly makes

661
00:32:15,680 --> 00:32:19,160
Speaker 3: a play to push him into war, and he is.

662
00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:20,840
Speaker 2: Like, fuck you, you can't fucking do that.

663
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:25,280
Speaker 3: But Melly, because she's a political animal, she's always also

664
00:32:25,440 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 3: angling for like what she wants the presidency to be

665
00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:31,479
Speaker 3: doing and which they want to make it. So when

666
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:34,560
Speaker 3: she's asking for forgiveness, she's like, I overstepped. I overstepped him. Sorry,

667
00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:36,640
Speaker 3: please forgive me. What happened to us? What happened to us?

668
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:38,560
Speaker 3: We used to just be like a little couple that

669
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Speaker 3: like had sex in like our one bedroom apartment, what

670
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Speaker 3: she says.

671
00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,280
Speaker 2: And he's like, I forgive you, And then he's like,

672
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 2: but I don't like you.

673
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,280
Speaker 1: But I don't like you. I don't like your ass.

674
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,880
Speaker 3: We end we're starting to end the episode with you

675
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Speaker 3: have your I go.

676
00:32:57,800 --> 00:33:00,280
Speaker 1: Back to my AA meeting where it's a yeah.

677
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Speaker 3: And now the difference in the episode is because Carrie

678
00:33:03,880 --> 00:33:06,080
Speaker 3: just Olivia just worked on this case and she sees

679
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:10,040
Speaker 3: that the mistress never really gets shit when Fitz keeps

680
00:33:10,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: trying to call her and call her and call her

681
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:16,160
Speaker 3: for their usually nightly phone sex hang flo, she don't

682
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Speaker 3: pick up.

683
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Speaker 1: You don't pick phone.

684
00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:19,080
Speaker 2: And then we move.

685
00:33:18,920 --> 00:33:21,520
Speaker 3: Into a scene where Jeff Perry is like, no, no,

686
00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:23,800
Speaker 3: you can't have a baby because I have a baby.

687
00:33:23,600 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 2: And his name is Fitzgerald Grant. He's a little baby bitch.

688
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: And then they fuck and.

689
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Speaker 2: Then Dan is like, whoa that turns me on?

690
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:37,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, power Cyrus is so hot? Yeah right, or something

691
00:33:37,640 --> 00:33:37,960
Speaker 1: like that.

692
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Speaker 2: Is it an from a gay man's point of view?

693
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Speaker 3: Do you think in their relationship that it is clear

694
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Speaker 3: who's top and whose bottom?

695
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Speaker 1: No, it's not. I was thinking about that too. I

696
00:33:50,120 --> 00:33:54,040
Speaker 1: was like, who's the top? Sometimes it's the unexpected one sometimes,

697
00:33:54,080 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: so I would say, yeah, where you're like, oh shit,

698
00:33:58,000 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: James is the top? What's the feeling I got? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

699
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 2: Seeing that Cyrus was at bottom.

700
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Speaker 1: Yes, but you just blew my mind because.

701
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:15,160
Speaker 3: I think stereotypically being a boring breeder as I am myself.

702
00:34:15,520 --> 00:34:18,880
Speaker 1: They listen, if it wasn't for a couple of breeders,

703
00:34:18,920 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: none of our would be here.

704
00:34:20,719 --> 00:34:22,840
Speaker 2: So we can't be here anymore. I don't know, but listen.

705
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Speaker 3: I watched that scene and I'm like, okay, Like, obviously

706
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:30,080
Speaker 3: Cyrus is a power top and Dan is a bottom,

707
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,279
Speaker 3: but there's also explained to people you can also be

708
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Speaker 3: in a relationship where people switch.

709
00:34:35,800 --> 00:34:41,239
Speaker 1: Now of course, yeah yeah, yeah, and relationships were you know, intercourse,

710
00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:43,400
Speaker 1: Like you know, fucking is not even a thing you do.

711
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 1: There's so many, you know, a ton of other stuff.

712
00:34:45,600 --> 00:34:48,000
Speaker 2: Blow jobs all day, all night exactly.

713
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Speaker 1: Yeah, a handy blowjoby. We're both talking like a little

714
00:34:53,840 --> 00:34:55,840
Speaker 1: bit hesitantly because we don't know how farn if this

715
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Speaker 1: was me and Katie, like at my house or at

716
00:34:57,840 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: her house, we'd be like.

717
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 3: God, we might get there at the podcast. Can you

718
00:35:04,000 --> 00:35:06,680
Speaker 3: hit us up and let us know how interested you

719
00:35:06,719 --> 00:35:09,839
Speaker 3: are in hearing real dirty shit out of our mouth

720
00:35:10,160 --> 00:35:11,640
Speaker 3: or is it like you know what, let's keep this

721
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Speaker 3: a little bit scandal style, which is like a ten PM,

722
00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 3: not like a one am exactly.

723
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Speaker 1: Go get a snack, take a crap, and come right back.

724
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Speaker 2: Verren A Thornton. We meet her in this episode.

725
00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:29,320
Speaker 1: Deborah Mooney.

726
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Speaker 3: Deborah Mooney is a fucking actress and we get so

727
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:34,600
Speaker 3: much of Deborah Mooney this season.

728
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:38,160
Speaker 1: This is just the beginning. This is the beginning for her.

729
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:40,640
Speaker 3: Yeah, and she's amazing and we have to have her on,

730
00:35:40,960 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 3: especially for the episode where she well, I don't know

731
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,240
Speaker 3: who's got that episode is so important.

732
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Speaker 2: We're not going to get there yet. We're not.

733
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:51,520
Speaker 3: You just got to keep listening to our podcast. We

734
00:35:51,560 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 3: reveal the end cliffhanger of this episode two o two

735
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:03,640
Speaker 3: with David just fucking beautiful mind his apartment. Yes, he's

736
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,480
Speaker 3: just oh I think it was called in the script

737
00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 3: wall Oh crazy?

738
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Speaker 1: Oh really? How do you remember that?

739
00:36:09,480 --> 00:36:13,400
Speaker 3: I had a weird memory of like David's wall of crazy,

740
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,200
Speaker 3: like he's just got a wall because they kept being

741
00:36:17,200 --> 00:36:19,000
Speaker 3: like you don't want Abby to walk in and.

742
00:36:18,920 --> 00:36:22,320
Speaker 2: See the wall crazy? Or maybe it's Brenda Song's character

743
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 2: later on.

744
00:36:24,040 --> 00:36:29,680
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe maybe, maybe, yeah, but it mimics like our

745
00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 1: wall at OPA, right, because we put up all the

746
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:33,959
Speaker 1: people's photo.

747
00:36:33,719 --> 00:36:35,720
Speaker 2: He's not like strings and dots.

748
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, But also I don't want us to forget.

749
00:36:39,600 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 1: There's a moment with with you, with Quinn in the apartment,

750
00:36:44,280 --> 00:36:47,879
Speaker 1: watching the president give the speech at the eulogy at

751
00:36:47,920 --> 00:36:53,480
Speaker 1: the funeral, and you so beautifully break down, sobbing. Oh, Katie,

752
00:36:53,480 --> 00:36:56,319
Speaker 1: that was such a great scene. Yes, because your may

753
00:36:56,400 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: I feel like you're obviously we talked about it earlier.

754
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 1: You're making your peace with with your life. You're you.

755
00:37:01,840 --> 00:37:04,160
Speaker 1: Part of you is dying as well. That eulogy is

756
00:37:04,160 --> 00:37:08,760
Speaker 1: for you too, you know Lindsay died. Yeah, after tearstick.

757
00:37:09,600 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: I love the question mark. Possibly, I don't know, you

758
00:37:13,280 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: tell me.

759
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:16,120
Speaker 2: I can't remember if I had it in me that

760
00:37:16,200 --> 00:37:16,640
Speaker 2: day or not.

761
00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:20,480
Speaker 3: Some days obviously, g and I remember really well, like

762
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:24,640
Speaker 3: Amanda Tanner's Morgcine, we were a ball of crying.

763
00:37:24,280 --> 00:37:26,640
Speaker 1: And yeah, of emotions and yes, and then.

764
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Speaker 2: There are some I can't remember if I had it that.

765
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Speaker 1: Day, well, tearstick or not. It was a beautiful, beautiful

766
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 1: moment and and just just that being revealed and you

767
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,359
Speaker 1: get that comes across so beautifully that you're like, oh,

768
00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 1: she's mourning. She's mourning Lindsay Dwyer like Quinn is mourning

769
00:37:42,120 --> 00:37:48,400
Speaker 1: her old self. Just a great scene by Well Mandy.

770
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Speaker 3: Fun fact about this episode, This is a horror heavy

771
00:37:54,160 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 3: guest cast, isn't it.

772
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: Gee, I already knew that. We already talked about that.

773
00:37:58,239 --> 00:38:02,000
Speaker 3: Elise Neil and A Gordon plays Halle and Scream two,

774
00:38:02,040 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 3: which is directed by Wes Craven.

775
00:38:03,600 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 2: Have you ever worked with Wes Craven.

776
00:38:05,160 --> 00:38:08,680
Speaker 1: I haven't, and unfortunately he's passed on now, but uh,

777
00:38:08,920 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: that was one of my dream directors. Yeah.

778
00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:16,600
Speaker 3: So the other horror heavy the horror fun fact Germo

779
00:38:16,840 --> 00:38:20,200
Speaker 3: is that the house that Anna, the character the mistress,

780
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,200
Speaker 3: lives in this house is the house from a Nightmare

781
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,720
Speaker 3: on Elm Street, which is also directed by Wes Craven.

782
00:38:24,800 --> 00:38:27,000
Speaker 3: So there was just a lot of horror ship going.

783
00:38:26,840 --> 00:38:29,839
Speaker 1: On Wes Craven in this Yes, if people people from

784
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:33,640
Speaker 1: California know this house is it's there's always people out

785
00:38:33,640 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: front taking pictures. It's the it's the exterior of the

786
00:38:35,920 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: house where Nancy lived in Nightmare on Elm Street. Anyway,

787
00:38:39,960 --> 00:38:41,919
Speaker 1: that's such a great fun fact. Ord.

788
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:44,560
Speaker 3: Would I never know that because I would never watch

789
00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 3: that movie. One other fun fact list that needs to

790
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:50,759
Speaker 3: be brought up is that this episode is designed to

791
00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,560
Speaker 3: be a mirror for Olivia and Fitz's relationship to the

792
00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:57,240
Speaker 3: appearance of Pastor Drake's infidelities, but the use of mirrored

793
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,320
Speaker 3: elements is apparent even throughout the episode. The episode begins

794
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: and ends almost with a phone call from Fits. That's

795
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:06,120
Speaker 3: mirror one. David Ros's home is a wall of mirrors

796
00:39:06,160 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 3: the bored in OPA office. Oh right, David Rosen's wall

797
00:39:09,239 --> 00:39:12,040
Speaker 3: of crazy mirrors like you said, gr board at the

798
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Speaker 3: OPA office.

799
00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 2: Mellie's her beg.

800
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 3: To Fits uses almost the exact same words as he

801
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,520
Speaker 3: does to Olivia. Another mirror, and then Vincent Anna and

802
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:26,200
Speaker 3: Pastor Drake's son is the spitting image of his fob.

803
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 3: So the whole episode's theme, Yes is mirror and didn't

804
00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 3: we learn a lot today?

805
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:43,000
Speaker 1: Tweet?

806
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: Are there any fun Scandal tweets at the time? To

807
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 3: wrap up episode two.

808
00:39:49,280 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: Two, Let's see here, let's see what we got here,

809
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:52,439
Speaker 1: We're through.

810
00:39:52,719 --> 00:39:54,280
Speaker 2: Oh there's really cute.

811
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 3: My god, there's a flashback photo that Mary Howard tweeted

812
00:39:57,480 --> 00:40:00,480
Speaker 3: on October fourth of twenty twelve. Episode two two cruise

813
00:40:00,520 --> 00:40:03,279
Speaker 3: screening of ABC Scandal during lunch.

814
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Speaker 2: You guys, we used to screen episodes.

815
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Speaker 1: During lunch, or the crew during.

816
00:40:08,840 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 3: Lunch in our big like conference room that was where

817
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:14,080
Speaker 3: we did all of our table reads, where they were

818
00:40:14,120 --> 00:40:16,160
Speaker 3: just a ton of old school folding chairs. They used

819
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:19,440
Speaker 3: to put it like two or three big screen TVs

820
00:40:19,520 --> 00:40:23,680
Speaker 3: on like rolling things, and the whole crew would gather

821
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:26,320
Speaker 3: instead of like taking lunch and like taking a break

822
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 3: of their own, everyone would gather and watch the episodes together.

823
00:40:28,640 --> 00:40:29,919
Speaker 2: Like who the fuck does that?

824
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:32,640
Speaker 1: But that's so rare on like the crew on a

825
00:40:32,680 --> 00:40:34,359
Speaker 1: show or a movie. I mean, of course they're there

826
00:40:34,400 --> 00:40:36,440
Speaker 1: and they're amazing, but the last thing I think they

827
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: want to do is go and watch, like, you know,

828
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 1: a screening of the episode. But it would hype people

829
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,640
Speaker 1: up so much because the show is so hot that

830
00:40:43,680 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: people would just be like, oh my god, we're working

831
00:40:46,000 --> 00:40:49,120
Speaker 1: on the most amazing show. It would just ripe everybody up.

832
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Speaker 1: It was dope. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I just love this photo most of all, guys, This

834
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: Mary Howard photo of the crew screening. It just everyone's

835
00:40:56,320 --> 00:40:59,560
Speaker 3: arms are up and smiling and laughing and like it's

836
00:40:59,560 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 3: from every department.

837
00:41:01,840 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: I miss all those people so much.

838
00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 3: Hey, maybe some of the crews listening today. If some

839
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,760
Speaker 3: of the crew is listening today, we love you, guys,

840
00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 3: we miss you. Episode two oh three is next week.

841
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,239
Speaker 3: Episode two oh three is called Hunting Season. Oh yes,

842
00:41:19,640 --> 00:41:22,319
Speaker 3: oh my goodness. Hopefully we've got we've got a guest

843
00:41:22,360 --> 00:41:24,319
Speaker 3: coming on, but if not, Episode two of three is

844
00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:25,720
Speaker 3: one of my favorite episodes.

845
00:41:25,360 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: Of season two.

846
00:41:27,239 --> 00:41:31,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's a lot of fucking Camp David and Goldwyn

847
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 3: like chopping wood.

848
00:41:32,840 --> 00:41:35,120
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, say no more.

849
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:36,879
Speaker 3: Maybe I think he chops would But if he doesn't

850
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 3: chop wood, I know he laces up Olivia's hunting.

851
00:41:40,560 --> 00:41:43,160
Speaker 2: Boots really really yeah, because.

852
00:41:42,920 --> 00:41:46,239
Speaker 3: They're supposed to go hunting and she gets summoned to

853
00:41:46,280 --> 00:41:48,319
Speaker 3: Camp David because he's so fucking pissed off that she's

854
00:41:48,320 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 3: not answering his phone calls. And it's really steamy and

855
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:54,120
Speaker 3: it's really fucking hot and it's really ending. And so

856
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,439
Speaker 3: episode two of three Hunting Season will be next week.

857
00:41:56,640 --> 00:42:00,200
Speaker 3: Tune in, tell your friends, subscribe. Scandal Rewatch podcast asked

858
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:01,640
Speaker 3: Unpacking the Toolbox.

859
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,800
Speaker 1: Yes, we'll be here. We'll be here and hopefully you

860
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:05,600
Speaker 1: guys will go.

861
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,600
Speaker 3: Gee, let's talk about how many people we've had sex

862
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:12,719
Speaker 3: with and by that, I'm saying how many people, how

863
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,160
Speaker 3: many numbers of feeling like we're going to talk about

864
00:42:15,160 --> 00:42:19,360
Speaker 3: our IMDb numbers? How many numbers do we got? Oh

865
00:42:19,400 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 3: my god, Giermo, Wow, you have one hundred and four

866
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Speaker 3: and that's including seven to eight years being on one.

867
00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: Job, crazy crazy, crazy crazy. Hey, that's pretty good.

868
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, so let it be here known first.

869
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Speaker 1: That's right.

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Speaker 3: She might have one hundred and four IMDb credits. I'm

871
00:42:42,080 --> 00:42:44,200
Speaker 3: an on a fifty, but I am more famous than

872
00:42:44,200 --> 00:42:46,760
Speaker 3: Gemo by like, yeah, nothing.

873
00:42:46,680 --> 00:42:49,360
Speaker 1: You better tell somebody I love it. I love it.

874
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,120
Speaker 2: But that's today, Gemo.

875
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,480
Speaker 3: If you just release a sex tape tonight, that number

876
00:42:55,719 --> 00:42:57,680
Speaker 3: will go way down.

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Speaker 1: Oh my god. Okay, that star.

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Speaker 3: Meater bullshit used to make me ill. Like I remember

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Speaker 3: in my twenties auditioning and being like this dude I

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Speaker 3: friend was like, well, whatever you're starting is way better

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Speaker 3: than his. Oh my god, and I was like, I

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Speaker 3: can never look at this again. This is not healthy.

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Speaker 1: Well, today's episode was really fun, really exciting.

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Speaker 3: We the best time ever as usual, and listen to

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Speaker 3: the two most famous people in the world talk about

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Speaker 3: sandelwatch I mean talk about the Scandal. Episodes two three,

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Speaker 3: Hunting Season will be next week. Tell your friends, Tell

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Speaker 3: your loved ones. I love you, Gearmo, I love you.

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Speaker 1: Katie Low's not Katie Low Shapiro, just Katie Low.

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Speaker 2: These total vanity, just like my name better right?

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Speaker 1: Hell Ya, Well you are pretty famous, so that star

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Speaker 1: meter would go up if you took Shapiro. Maybe.

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Speaker 3: Gladiators, we love you, We love you guys.

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Speaker 1: Thank you guys for joining us on Unpacking the Toolbox.

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Speaker 1: If you enjoyed the show, please subscribe, share with your friends, rate,

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Speaker 1: or leave us a review.

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Speaker 3: Scandal is executive produced by Sandy Bailey, Alex Alcea, Lauren Homan,

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Speaker 3: Tyler Klang, and Gabrielle Collins. Our producer and editor is

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Speaker 3: Vince de Johnny, with music by Chad Fisher.

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Speaker 1: Scandal is a production of ABC Signature, and you can

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Speaker 1: follow along by rewatching Scandal on Hulu.

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