1 00:00:01,000 --> 00:00:02,040 Speaker 1: I am six forty. 2 00:00:02,120 --> 00:00:05,520 Speaker 2: You're listening to the John Cobel podcast on the iHeartRadio app. 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,399 Speaker 1: Lou Penrose sitting in for John this week. 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,840 Speaker 3: Good to have you along with us LA County voting 5 00:00:12,920 --> 00:00:17,280 Speaker 3: yesterday to declare a state of emergency, specifically a state 6 00:00:17,680 --> 00:00:22,200 Speaker 3: of immigration emergency, and it gives them a whole host 7 00:00:22,200 --> 00:00:25,520 Speaker 3: of authorities and we need to know exactly what those are. 8 00:00:25,760 --> 00:00:28,360 Speaker 3: Kfi's Michael Monks joins us from the KFI newsroom. 9 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:33,560 Speaker 1: Was this a planned thing? This just kind of jumped 10 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:34,440 Speaker 1: on the radar screen. 11 00:00:34,440 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 3: It's not something that was talked about, really, and now 12 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:40,080 Speaker 3: all of a sudden, a state of emergency. 13 00:00:40,159 --> 00:00:41,519 Speaker 1: Very dramatic, Michael Monks. 14 00:00:41,560 --> 00:00:44,920 Speaker 4: The board has been talking about various options to assist 15 00:00:45,000 --> 00:00:47,559 Speaker 4: illegal immigrants who are here in the community. There are 16 00:00:47,640 --> 00:00:50,440 Speaker 4: many in Los Angeles County, and in fact, they've already 17 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 4: taken multiple steps to assist folks who they say are 18 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,560 Speaker 4: impacted by immigration enforcement efforts by the federal government here 19 00:00:57,600 --> 00:01:01,200 Speaker 4: in Los Angeles County. We're talking about me access to 20 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:07,199 Speaker 4: benefits like food access or even some monetary assistance for rent. 21 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:11,200 Speaker 4: All of this stuff has already been enacted, but some 22 00:01:11,360 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 4: on the board suggested that they needed to declare a 23 00:01:14,240 --> 00:01:18,440 Speaker 4: state of emergency, because in emergencies you can do things 24 00:01:18,920 --> 00:01:21,200 Speaker 4: in a way that may be expedited. You don't have 25 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,520 Speaker 4: to go through all of the bureaucracy and the red tape. 26 00:01:23,560 --> 00:01:25,680 Speaker 4: Keep in mind, we have something similar in the City 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:29,280 Speaker 4: of Los Angeles around homelessness, and that has allowed programs 28 00:01:29,400 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 4: like inside Safe to operate in ways that they normally 29 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 4: would not have to wor the emergency not declared. So 30 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:39,680 Speaker 4: this does open up the door to additional actions by 31 00:01:39,760 --> 00:01:42,959 Speaker 4: this board because they have declared an emergency. 32 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:45,640 Speaker 3: All right, So it's more than just window dressing, more 33 00:01:45,680 --> 00:01:50,920 Speaker 3: than just symbolic. But when you say it's streamlines a process, 34 00:01:50,960 --> 00:01:53,440 Speaker 3: because we're in a state of emergency, when we're talking 35 00:01:53,440 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: about rent relief or legal aid, what would that be 36 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,520 Speaker 3: just that you don't have to put it out to bid. 37 00:01:58,880 --> 00:02:02,080 Speaker 3: I mean, I'm trying to figure out what would have 38 00:02:02,120 --> 00:02:04,680 Speaker 3: slowed down rent relief or legal aid in the first place. 39 00:02:04,880 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 4: Perhaps nothing there, and that's how they've already been able 40 00:02:07,080 --> 00:02:11,240 Speaker 4: to do some of those things. But one characteristic of 41 00:02:11,280 --> 00:02:14,240 Speaker 4: this that has been clamored for by activists in La County, 42 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:17,040 Speaker 4: whether they're connected to a legal immigrant families or not 43 00:02:17,639 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 4: is an eviction moratorium. Now, if you cover local government 44 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 4: like I do, you often hear folks saying we need 45 00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 4: an eviction moratorium for this reason or that reason. There 46 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:29,560 Speaker 4: were folks calling for an eviction moratorium in the wake 47 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:33,480 Speaker 4: of the wildfires from January, regardless of where people lived 48 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,960 Speaker 4: or if they were impacted by it at all. So 49 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 4: there's a group of activists here that always see an 50 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 4: opportunity to pursue an eviction moratorium, and this group called 51 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 4: the Los Angeles Tenants Union, is one of those advocacy groups. 52 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 4: They've been pushing the Board of Supervisors for weeks to 53 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 4: enact an eviction moratorium. Basically, what that would mean is 54 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:56,360 Speaker 4: landlords can't kick people out of their property. You saw 55 00:02:56,400 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: this during COVID, so when people were losing their income, 56 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,120 Speaker 4: you know, to no fault of their own, they were 57 00:03:03,840 --> 00:03:06,240 Speaker 4: able to stay in their homes. And so this group 58 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 4: has called foreign eviction moratorium. There are members of the 59 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:11,160 Speaker 4: Board of Supervisors that seem sympathetic to this, and the 60 00:03:11,160 --> 00:03:15,400 Speaker 4: County Attorney's report on this emergency declaration indicates that an 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:19,679 Speaker 4: eviction moratorium could be enacted during a declared local emergency. 62 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 4: But it would have to be temporary, and it would 63 00:03:21,880 --> 00:03:25,919 Speaker 4: also have to be narrowly tailored to address the impacts 64 00:03:25,960 --> 00:03:28,760 Speaker 4: of the emergency. It also has to protect landlord's due 65 00:03:28,800 --> 00:03:31,959 Speaker 4: process rights, and that's always a problem here in Los Angeles. 66 00:03:32,000 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 4: Landlords are often not happy with these various layers of 67 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:37,520 Speaker 4: government that are added to their property ownership. 68 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 3: Oh, this is I mean, this is like the highest 69 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 3: level of confusion because property owners in Los Angeles County 70 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 3: cannot ask if somebody is lately in the United States on. 71 00:03:48,440 --> 00:03:49,320 Speaker 1: Oro rental application. 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,800 Speaker 3: So how would the Board of Supervisors know to place 73 00:03:52,840 --> 00:04:00,080 Speaker 3: a moratorium on any one tenant because of ice? Oh 74 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 3: are they gonna make that distinction since nobody's allowed to 75 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:04,320 Speaker 3: know if you're in Los Angeles legally enough? 76 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,840 Speaker 4: Do you raise an excellent point, Lou, Because it's not 77 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:10,880 Speaker 4: just the eviction moratorium, it's basically every policy that's been 78 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:12,560 Speaker 4: put in place, whether it be the City of Los 79 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:16,640 Speaker 4: Angeles or the County of Los Angeles, to assist illegal immigrants. 80 00:04:16,680 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 4: Because these are advocates for legal immigrants who suggest we 81 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:24,200 Speaker 4: need to protect folks who are here illegally and not 82 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 4: necessarily getting up on them because of their lack of 83 00:04:27,200 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 4: legal status. But in order to receive some of these funds, 84 00:04:30,560 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 4: it looks like you would have to prove how you 85 00:04:32,880 --> 00:04:37,400 Speaker 4: are adversely impacted by the immigration raids. What we heard 86 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:43,359 Speaker 4: from supervisors is that there are families where there is 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,080 Speaker 4: a mixed status they call it. So somebody may be 88 00:04:46,200 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: here illegally. Let's say the father is here illegally, the 89 00:04:49,080 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 4: mother is not, so the mother's a legal citizen, and 90 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:54,360 Speaker 4: then they are children involved, but the father has been 91 00:04:54,600 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 4: detained and or deported, and now the main source of 92 00:04:58,120 --> 00:05:01,839 Speaker 4: income is gone. In fact, here's what Supervisor Lindsay Horvath 93 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:03,239 Speaker 4: had to say about those sorts of issues. 94 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:07,800 Speaker 5: For months, families have been living under threat, workers have 95 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,720 Speaker 5: been kidnapped from job sites, and children have been coming 96 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:15,400 Speaker 5: home to empty dinner tables. Los Angeles County has the 97 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:19,680 Speaker 5: responsibility to protect every resident, no matter where they come 98 00:05:19,720 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 5: from or what papers they carry. 99 00:05:23,040 --> 00:05:25,520 Speaker 4: And that was Supervisor Lindsay Horvath. We also heard from 100 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:29,040 Speaker 4: Supervisors Janie Hahn, Holly Mitchell, and Hilde Slice who all 101 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 4: voted for this. Supervisor Catherine Barger, who is currently the 102 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,080 Speaker 4: chair of the board. This year, she was the loan 103 00:05:35,400 --> 00:05:37,640 Speaker 4: vote against it, but she says her opposition to the 104 00:05:37,680 --> 00:05:42,680 Speaker 4: motion is about good governance, not immigration status. She says 105 00:05:42,760 --> 00:05:46,080 Speaker 4: that this type of action could set the county up 106 00:05:46,160 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 4: for legal challenges from the federal government, and goodness knows 107 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 4: whether it's the local government or the state government. Here 108 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,840 Speaker 4: the federal government, they've been at odds for months now 109 00:05:57,120 --> 00:06:00,960 Speaker 4: at various court levels on various issue So if this 110 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,520 Speaker 4: does become a situation where the federal government gets win 111 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:06,840 Speaker 4: of it and they're not happy about it, it could absolutely be. 112 00:06:06,839 --> 00:06:09,840 Speaker 3: Challenged, and the fight back and forth between DC and 113 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 3: LA goes on and on. 114 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: All right, lots of questions about this that I still want. 115 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:19,800 Speaker 6: To just unpack as we move forward, because this, as 116 00:06:19,800 --> 00:06:22,920 Speaker 6: you said, opens up a whole host of challenges, especially 117 00:06:22,920 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 6: when you're getting into mixed status households. 118 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:28,560 Speaker 1: Michael Mounts from the KFI newsroom. Thanks so much, appreciate 119 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: you hopping on and giving us the details you got 120 00:06:30,480 --> 00:06:30,640 Speaker 1: to go. 121 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:33,040 Speaker 3: All right, So when we get back, how exactly does 122 00:06:33,080 --> 00:06:37,279 Speaker 3: this work? So does the county boarder supervisors expect people 123 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 3: to go on record and say, yes, we knowingly had 124 00:06:41,720 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 3: a foreign national illegally working and in fact working so 125 00:06:46,640 --> 00:06:49,320 Speaker 3: hard that they were the breadwinner of this household and 126 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 3: now you people deported him, and so I need the 127 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:56,240 Speaker 3: taxpayers of Los Angeles to pay my rent until what 128 00:06:56,839 --> 00:07:00,320 Speaker 3: the bread winner gets settled back home and starts first 129 00:07:00,320 --> 00:07:04,240 Speaker 3: remittance payments. This is a real problem and we need 130 00:07:04,279 --> 00:07:06,279 Speaker 3: to explore it, and we'll do that next. 131 00:07:07,360 --> 00:07:11,680 Speaker 7: You're listening to John coblt on demand from KFI AM 132 00:07:11,720 --> 00:07:12,280 Speaker 7: six forty. 133 00:07:13,760 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 3: Sitting in for John coblt all this week Loup Penrose 134 00:07:16,440 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 3: on I AM six forty. So the state of emergency, now, 135 00:07:20,880 --> 00:07:24,920 Speaker 3: the state of an immigration emergency is in effect at 136 00:07:24,960 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 3: the Los Angeles Board of Supervisor. 137 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:29,720 Speaker 8: Joly County Board of Supervisors voting four to one on 138 00:07:29,800 --> 00:07:34,560 Speaker 8: Tuesday to approve a quote immigration emergency declaration in the 139 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 8: county in response to recent ice raids here. 140 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:37,760 Speaker 1: In La So. 141 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:42,400 Speaker 3: According to the reports enforcement raids since June six have 142 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,200 Speaker 3: grown to a point where they cause undocumented residents extreme 143 00:07:46,320 --> 00:07:55,320 Speaker 3: peril of being deported or losing their livelihood. Also they 144 00:07:55,360 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 3: say financial strain, loss of food security, isolation, mental distress. 145 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:05,560 Speaker 1: And homelessness. And this is what is so amazing to me. 146 00:08:05,640 --> 00:08:08,960 Speaker 3: The level of hysteria at the County Board of Supervisors 147 00:08:09,520 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 3: is off the charts. Now we are in the process 148 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:21,400 Speaker 3: of removing foreign nationals illegally in the county. We're in 149 00:08:21,440 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 3: the process of removing foreign nationals illegally in the country. 150 00:08:25,720 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: It is illegal to be. 151 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 3: In Los Angeles illegally. It is illegal to work in 152 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:33,800 Speaker 3: Los Angeles. If you're in Los Angeles illegally, you are 153 00:08:33,840 --> 00:08:39,360 Speaker 3: ineligible for employment. And the Border Supervisors is the governing 154 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 3: body of the county. They're the law and order place 155 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 3: and they're rooting for the illegals. And it's quite astounding. 156 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:50,040 Speaker 3: Here is Supervisor Han. 157 00:08:50,120 --> 00:08:53,120 Speaker 9: We have entire families who are destitute because their fathers 158 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,160 Speaker 9: or mothers were taken from their workplaces and they have 159 00:08:56,280 --> 00:08:58,160 Speaker 9: no way to pay their rent or put food on 160 00:08:58,160 --> 00:08:58,600 Speaker 9: the table. 161 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 3: That's right, Well, that's the process, is to remove them 162 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:08,199 Speaker 3: from housing and the labor, the illegal labor force. That's 163 00:09:08,280 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 3: part of the process destitute. What are you talking about. 164 00:09:12,280 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 3: More money is sent in the form of remittance payments 165 00:09:16,800 --> 00:09:20,840 Speaker 3: to Mexico than any other thing that goes on. There 166 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 3: is so much money that is sent in remittance payments 167 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: to Mexico from California that it shows up on the 168 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:33,520 Speaker 3: books in Mexico City. It's like part of their economy. 169 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:38,680 Speaker 3: And then they you know, look for public assistance here. 170 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:42,679 Speaker 3: But this is this is just astounding that they don't 171 00:09:42,800 --> 00:09:46,600 Speaker 3: understand the difference between legal and illegal, and they continue 172 00:09:46,640 --> 00:09:51,400 Speaker 3: to talk about residents of Los Angeles and ethel alien 173 00:09:51,640 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 3: is not a resident because by literal definition, you are 174 00:09:57,080 --> 00:10:00,560 Speaker 3: not able to reside if you're in in the United 175 00:10:00,600 --> 00:10:06,600 Speaker 3: States illegally. This is why I'm always screaming when they 176 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 3: talk about children in schools in La County. In order 177 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:16,680 Speaker 3: to enroll your child at a public school in Los Angeles, 178 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 3: there are residency requirements, right. 179 00:10:18,760 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 1: That's how you know which elementary school to go to. 180 00:10:21,360 --> 00:10:22,000 Speaker 1: That's how you know. 181 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 3: That's people talk about I want to go to a 182 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,280 Speaker 3: good school district. Though, is that a good school district? 183 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:27,960 Speaker 1: I don't know. Is we're going to buy a house, 184 00:10:28,080 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 1: is it? What's the school district like? 185 00:10:30,080 --> 00:10:32,800 Speaker 3: Because you have to have residency in order to be 186 00:10:32,840 --> 00:10:35,320 Speaker 3: eligible to get into that school, or you have to 187 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 3: apply for some out of area acceptance and you got 188 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:40,280 Speaker 3: to go on a waiting list. 189 00:10:40,320 --> 00:10:41,480 Speaker 1: I did this with my own kids. 190 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,679 Speaker 3: So you have to have residency, you have to establish residency, 191 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:47,720 Speaker 3: improve residency. 192 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:49,800 Speaker 1: A person in. 193 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:55,640 Speaker 3: Los Angeles County, by literal definition, cannot reside because it's 194 00:10:55,640 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 3: illegal for them to be in Los Angeles County, so 195 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:00,280 Speaker 3: they're not a resident. 196 00:11:01,600 --> 00:11:04,480 Speaker 1: So lou Penrose Rule number four words matter. 197 00:11:04,640 --> 00:11:08,880 Speaker 5: The county will take whatever actions we have within our authority. 198 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 5: We need to call on our region to stand up 199 00:11:11,960 --> 00:11:14,079 Speaker 5: and protect our community members. 200 00:11:14,240 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 3: Oh, community members, that's a good one, community members. 201 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,360 Speaker 1: All right, Well, let's just call this out. 202 00:11:24,640 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 3: In the process of removing people that are in the 203 00:11:28,400 --> 00:11:32,200 Speaker 3: country illegally, it's going to put pain on the people 204 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 3: that relied on that otherwise illegal income, but nevertheless income. 205 00:11:39,120 --> 00:11:43,040 Speaker 3: And that is a pity I and not so heartless 206 00:11:44,280 --> 00:11:47,479 Speaker 3: that I don't acknowledge that this is a real problem 207 00:11:47,840 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 3: for a lot of people that built a life around 208 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:55,599 Speaker 3: a lie, and that is it's okay to work illegally 209 00:11:56,280 --> 00:12:00,880 Speaker 3: and start a family and just be But these are 210 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 3: not Los Angeles residents. These are foreign nationals masquerading as 211 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:08,040 Speaker 3: Los Angeles families. 212 00:12:11,040 --> 00:12:11,679 Speaker 1: They are. 213 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:18,439 Speaker 3: They belong to other countries, and they are masquerading as parents. 214 00:12:20,320 --> 00:12:22,800 Speaker 1: Entering their children into our public schools. 215 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,240 Speaker 3: The public schools in Los Angeles are for the children 216 00:12:26,400 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 3: of Angelinos, not people masquerading as Angelinos, which is what 217 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:36,319 Speaker 3: foreign nationals in the country illegally are doing. I don't 218 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:40,040 Speaker 3: know how else you go about doing this without causing 219 00:12:40,120 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: pain to the dependence of the illegal worker. By the way, 220 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 3: if somebody is a burglar and that's what they do 221 00:12:50,720 --> 00:12:52,720 Speaker 3: for a living, and they support a family, and we 222 00:12:52,840 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 3: catch them and convict them and put them in jail, 223 00:12:55,920 --> 00:12:59,040 Speaker 3: doesn't that cause pain to the dependence of the cat burglar? 224 00:13:00,480 --> 00:13:06,680 Speaker 3: So why is this different? So let's define our terms 225 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 3: here a little bit. This is what happens. And again, 226 00:13:11,559 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 3: as I said, it is a problem. It is in 227 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 3: fact their problem, not your problem, not my problem. Who 228 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,760 Speaker 3: told you to come into the country illegally and start 229 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 3: a family? Like, don't let them make you feel bad. 230 00:13:32,040 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 3: Don't feel bad. I don't feel bad. 231 00:13:34,840 --> 00:13:37,679 Speaker 8: Now, that emergency declaration will give La County the power 232 00:13:37,720 --> 00:13:41,400 Speaker 8: to provide taxpayer funded rent relief, legal services, and other 233 00:13:41,480 --> 00:13:44,719 Speaker 8: assistance to those the county says have been affected by 234 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:47,719 Speaker 8: recent ice rates. Now, the two LA County supervisors who 235 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:51,720 Speaker 8: first introduced this declaration say immigrants in La have been 236 00:13:51,800 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 8: quote living under. 237 00:13:52,920 --> 00:13:55,080 Speaker 1: Threat from ice and help is needed. 238 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:58,320 Speaker 3: Anybody that's in the country illegally is living under threat 239 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:03,719 Speaker 3: of immigration and custom enforcement. Anybody breaking federal law is 240 00:14:03,840 --> 00:14:08,000 Speaker 3: living under the threat of the FBI. Anybody violating interstate 241 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,560 Speaker 3: commerce is living under the threat of the Department of Commerce. 242 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 3: Anybody selling knockoff Louis vatam purses at santi Alli is 243 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,040 Speaker 3: living under the threat of the Department of Treasury. This 244 00:14:21,120 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 3: is absurd, like this is some new thing. It's illegal 245 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 3: to be in Los Angeles. 246 00:14:25,600 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: I legally, it just is. 247 00:14:29,320 --> 00:14:32,120 Speaker 3: When we come back, let's talk about how the landlord 248 00:14:32,200 --> 00:14:34,520 Speaker 3: somehow deserves to get screwed on all this. 249 00:14:34,920 --> 00:14:35,960 Speaker 1: That's all coming up next. 250 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:41,120 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI A 251 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:42,880 Speaker 7: six forty. 252 00:14:43,040 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 3: The County of Los Angeles declaring an immigration state of emergency, 253 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,280 Speaker 3: giving the County Border Supervisors the authority to provide taxpayer 254 00:14:52,320 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 3: funded rent relief, legal aid, and other services to illegal 255 00:14:57,080 --> 00:15:00,960 Speaker 3: aliens and their families now immigration Customs enforcement. 256 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:02,720 Speaker 1: And I'm surprised to see. 257 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 3: That they issued a statement, but they issued a direct 258 00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,880 Speaker 3: statement to the LA Board of Supervisors. 259 00:15:06,920 --> 00:15:10,680 Speaker 8: ICE is blasting LA County's decision to approve this declaration. 260 00:15:10,800 --> 00:15:13,920 Speaker 8: They write, in part quote, the only state of emergency 261 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 8: is the one residence of Los Angeles face after electing 262 00:15:16,840 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 8: officials who give a middle finger to the law. 263 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 3: Wow, that's tough stuff. Middle finger to the law. But 264 00:15:22,600 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 3: that's not untrue. They are flooding the law at flouting, 265 00:15:27,800 --> 00:15:33,360 Speaker 3: they are not helping the process. And I, for the 266 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: life of me, don't understand how the property management company 267 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,680 Speaker 3: or the property owner has to wait for rent relief 268 00:15:42,760 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 3: from the county and Comma, Why do the legal residents 269 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:54,320 Speaker 3: and actual Americans of Los Angeles have to cover the 270 00:15:54,400 --> 00:15:57,080 Speaker 3: rent for the dependents of illegals. 271 00:15:59,120 --> 00:16:01,760 Speaker 1: And even if there is any. 272 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:06,160 Speaker 3: Truth to this idea of a mixed household, a mixed 273 00:16:06,200 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: status household, I think, is the term that was used 274 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:12,920 Speaker 3: where some people are in the country illegally and working illegally, 275 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 3: and some people are legally here and dependent. I don't 276 00:16:17,600 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 3: even know how you get to that, since only an 277 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:27,040 Speaker 3: idiot would marry an illegal. But whatever, can't people still 278 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:33,400 Speaker 3: work at home and send money to their family like 279 00:16:33,440 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 3: it is possible? 280 00:16:35,480 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: It used to happen. 281 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:41,440 Speaker 3: My great grandfather came from Italy and worked on the 282 00:16:41,440 --> 00:16:45,360 Speaker 3: New York City subway system and mailed money home to 283 00:16:45,440 --> 00:16:48,360 Speaker 3: my great grandmother, who was an Italian citizen. 284 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:51,280 Speaker 1: So does that is not not still a thing? 285 00:16:51,720 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: People don't do that anymore, like you can get deported 286 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 3: or self deport, which is still the best way to go. 287 00:16:58,440 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 1: For all you illegals out there. The jig is up. 288 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know what you're thinking. Remember the 289 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: lou Penrose rule. There are no tears in the back 290 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 3: of the ice van. I don't want to see any tears. 291 00:17:09,680 --> 00:17:12,840 Speaker 3: I don't want to hear any crying. We gave you 292 00:17:12,880 --> 00:17:15,120 Speaker 3: a goodly amount of time to get your affairs in order. 293 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:16,520 Speaker 1: We told you what was. 294 00:17:16,520 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 3: Coming down, and the best thing you could do is 295 00:17:20,119 --> 00:17:22,639 Speaker 3: take the deal. Have your sister in law sell the 296 00:17:22,680 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 3: truck and get the one thousand dollars from the Trump 297 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:30,840 Speaker 3: administration and get that free ticket and scram and get 298 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:34,159 Speaker 3: back to Guatemala City and get yourself an apartment a 299 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 3: thousand dollars. It's a thousand dollars US dollars, so it 300 00:17:37,000 --> 00:17:42,480 Speaker 3: goes a long way in Honduras or Turkey or Venezuela 301 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:44,520 Speaker 3: or India or wherever. 302 00:17:45,640 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: Get yourself a. 303 00:17:47,240 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 3: Small studio apartment near the US embassy, and then hang 304 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,399 Speaker 3: out for six weeks, wait for the smoke to clear, 305 00:17:55,800 --> 00:18:00,680 Speaker 3: and then go apply. If you legitimately have family here, 306 00:18:01,920 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 3: apply like you know legal people do. So that's the 307 00:18:08,520 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 3: best deal. Going waiting around for the ice truck to come. 308 00:18:11,840 --> 00:18:14,919 Speaker 3: Not a good plan, But if that's what you insist 309 00:18:14,960 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 3: on doing, go for it. Just I don't want to 310 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:18,959 Speaker 3: see any crime, I don't want to see any tears, 311 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,720 Speaker 3: and I don't want to hear about it. So how 312 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 3: is this rent relief going to make it to the 313 00:18:24,160 --> 00:18:28,119 Speaker 3: person that actually has to make the mortgage payment on 314 00:18:28,160 --> 00:18:34,240 Speaker 3: the apartment building? Taxpayer funded rent relief and legal aid. 315 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:37,000 Speaker 1: That's the other one that I fully don't understand. 316 00:18:37,320 --> 00:18:40,960 Speaker 3: I worked for three members of Congress from California for 317 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 3: fifteen years, which means for fifteen years I did immigration 318 00:18:44,480 --> 00:18:49,400 Speaker 3: casework or I managed staff that did immigration casework. There's 319 00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 3: nothing that an attorney can help you with that your 320 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:58,480 Speaker 3: local member of Congress can help you with for free. 321 00:18:59,200 --> 00:19:03,840 Speaker 3: I see these designs all the time in various communities 322 00:19:03,840 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 3: in La County Immigracion, and I'm thinking, what is going 323 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:12,040 Speaker 3: on here? There is no such thing as an immigration attorney. 324 00:19:12,600 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 3: Immigration law is pretty clear for the most part. 325 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:19,680 Speaker 1: It's a scam. A lot of these immigration attorneys they're 326 00:19:19,720 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 1: praying on foreigners. 327 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 3: They're really just simply providing translation services at three hundred 328 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 3: dollars an hour. That's really where the crime is. But nevertheless, 329 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: immigration attorneys, what are they going to help you? Having 330 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 3: an immigration attorney it would be like having a DMV 331 00:19:37,400 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 3: attorney in state government. 332 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,840 Speaker 1: You can just do it yourself. 333 00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:48,200 Speaker 3: So I don't know what the legal aid is going 334 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:53,240 Speaker 3: to do, and I don't understand what these lawyers are 335 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 3: telling these dependents of illegals. Again, if you are a 336 00:19:58,520 --> 00:20:02,960 Speaker 3: US citizen and you are married to an illegal alien, 337 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: that doesn't mean that your spouse is staying. I think 338 00:20:08,440 --> 00:20:11,760 Speaker 3: that a lot of illegals got that wrong. I don't 339 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:14,800 Speaker 3: know if it was pop culture, maybe some movies, I 340 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,440 Speaker 3: don't know, but I think a lot of illegals thought 341 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:23,480 Speaker 3: if they just somehow marry a local that they'll get 342 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 3: to stay, or if they knock up a local, they'll 343 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:31,320 Speaker 3: get to stay, And that isn't how it works. So 344 00:20:31,600 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what the long term plan is. But 345 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:38,040 Speaker 3: if I were you, I would go home and then 346 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,879 Speaker 3: find the US embassy and apply like a normal person. 347 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:45,600 Speaker 3: Despite cutting twenty five million dollars from La County's Sister 348 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 3: Attorney's office, Wow, that's politically bold to cut the DA's 349 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 3: budget to give rent relief to foreign nationals living in 350 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 3: Los Angeles County illegally. I still, for the life of me, 351 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:01,480 Speaker 3: I do not understand how the border supers expect to 352 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:03,000 Speaker 3: qualify that. 353 00:21:03,160 --> 00:21:04,159 Speaker 1: How are you going to prove this? 354 00:21:05,280 --> 00:21:08,160 Speaker 3: People have to come forward and say there wasn't illegal here, 355 00:21:08,720 --> 00:21:12,439 Speaker 3: he got deported, or there's illegals here and they're afraid 356 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:13,080 Speaker 3: to go to work. 357 00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 1: They're not going to say that. 358 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:19,920 Speaker 3: I think if you say they were in the country 359 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,560 Speaker 3: and they got deported, but they were the breadwinner, you're 360 00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:25,760 Speaker 3: opening yourself up to a lot of back payroll taxes. 361 00:21:26,400 --> 00:21:27,639 Speaker 1: So I don't think they're going to say that. 362 00:21:29,040 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 3: I don't think this is really thought through by Jennis Hahn, 363 00:21:34,560 --> 00:21:37,800 Speaker 3: and I don't think Lindsey Horvath understands law at all. 364 00:21:39,000 --> 00:21:40,680 Speaker 1: So we'll see where this takes us. 365 00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:46,080 Speaker 3: But to be sure, what happens now is the rental 366 00:21:46,119 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 3: market becomes even more tight because those that are in 367 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:54,560 Speaker 3: the business of renting apartments to anybody, because those individuals 368 00:21:54,600 --> 00:21:59,719 Speaker 3: become a lot more suspicious of those rental applications, so 369 00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:03,480 Speaker 3: that it just makes things worse yet again LA County 370 00:22:03,480 --> 00:22:08,200 Speaker 3: Board of Supervisors making things worse. Louke Penrose info John 371 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:11,080 Speaker 3: Coblt on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the 372 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:12,080 Speaker 3: iHeartRadio app. 373 00:22:13,040 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 7: You're listening to John Cobelt on demand from KFI AM 374 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:17,960 Speaker 7: six forty. 375 00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 3: Lou Penrose in for John Cobelt on The John Cobelt 376 00:22:22,040 --> 00:22:24,200 Speaker 3: Show coming up following the news of two. 377 00:22:24,520 --> 00:22:26,919 Speaker 1: So I knew this would eventually happen. 378 00:22:28,480 --> 00:22:33,200 Speaker 3: Former congresswoman and gubernatorial candidate Katie Porter had to break 379 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:37,639 Speaker 3: her silence at some point and attempt a recovery tour, 380 00:22:38,240 --> 00:22:40,680 Speaker 3: and she did right here in Los Angeles, inside California 381 00:22:40,760 --> 00:22:46,120 Speaker 3: Politics with Nicki Lorenzo, and it didn't go well. I mean, 382 00:22:46,160 --> 00:22:50,080 Speaker 3: there is damage control consultants in politics, just like there 383 00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:56,080 Speaker 3: are damage control consultants and media control consultants in business 384 00:22:56,520 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 3: and in showbiz. And you've got to address these things quickly. 385 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:04,680 Speaker 3: I mean, unless you plan on just avoiding it all 386 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,439 Speaker 3: together and letting the chips fall where they may. But 387 00:23:07,520 --> 00:23:10,720 Speaker 3: if you have a live campaign for the Democrat nomination 388 00:23:10,840 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 3: for governor and you're the leading contender, which according to 389 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:20,159 Speaker 3: Pohle's Porter is, and you have this much damage to 390 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:24,359 Speaker 3: your candidacy, you need help. You can't get out of 391 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:27,880 Speaker 3: this on your own because clearly your instincts are flawed. 392 00:23:28,640 --> 00:23:32,399 Speaker 3: And that's the case here now is recovery possible. Sure, 393 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 3: Californians easily forgive character flaws. 394 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 1: And that's not necessarily a bad thing. 395 00:23:41,800 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 3: Mistakes happen. All politicians flubb they all do. They all 396 00:23:46,640 --> 00:23:52,120 Speaker 3: make mistakes. They all say something and artfully and sometimes 397 00:23:52,119 --> 00:23:52,760 Speaker 3: they can't get. 398 00:23:52,640 --> 00:23:53,440 Speaker 1: Out of their own way. 399 00:23:54,640 --> 00:24:00,119 Speaker 3: It's never the fumble in politics, it's always the recovery. 400 00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 3: So when somebody fumbles, I mean, we all watch because 401 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: it's a train wreck. 402 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:06,200 Speaker 1: And this was a train wreck. 403 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:09,840 Speaker 3: And the first thing you do is to find out, Wow, 404 00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:10,960 Speaker 3: was this just a bad day? 405 00:24:11,560 --> 00:24:14,680 Speaker 1: Was this sour milk in the coffee? Is she hungover? 406 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:15,760 Speaker 1: Is she drunk? 407 00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 3: What's going on? Does somebody kick her dog? Why is 408 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: she in a bad mood? So you find out. 409 00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 1: Is there a pattern or was this just a really 410 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: bad day? 411 00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:29,560 Speaker 3: Is there zero evidence of this happening in the past, 412 00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:34,240 Speaker 3: And in Katie Porter's case, there is growing evidence that 413 00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: it happens continuously. So there is a pattern of behavior 414 00:24:37,720 --> 00:24:42,560 Speaker 3: for which in this latest interview she has not really addressed, 415 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 3: and there's no sense that she is going to change 416 00:24:46,520 --> 00:24:50,080 Speaker 3: her ways. She actually took it as a bit of 417 00:24:50,080 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 3: a badge of honor, saying that it shows the voters 418 00:24:53,480 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 3: that she's tough. So we'll listen to the parts of 419 00:24:59,240 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 3: the interview together and then go back and contrast it 420 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 3: with the one interview that got her in trouble, and 421 00:25:05,440 --> 00:25:08,399 Speaker 3: then of course the now famous get out of my 422 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:12,560 Speaker 3: shot treatment of the staffer. And I'll tell you a 423 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 3: little bit about what goes on behind the scenes and 424 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 3: these kinds of situations, having been a senior staffer for 425 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:21,560 Speaker 3: three members of Congress, and Porter was a member of 426 00:25:21,600 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 3: Congress when she was in that conference call with the 427 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:25,960 Speaker 3: Secretary of Energy. 428 00:25:26,960 --> 00:25:29,560 Speaker 1: But from my read, this didn't do it. 429 00:25:30,720 --> 00:25:33,880 Speaker 3: The questions will continue to be asked about her temperament 430 00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,520 Speaker 3: because it's now it's not a character question, it's a 431 00:25:37,560 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 3: matter of temperament. She doesn't seem to mind that she 432 00:25:42,920 --> 00:25:45,440 Speaker 3: came off as a class A B. 433 00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:52,280 Speaker 9: Ch Hylou Regarding Supervisor Corva's statement this morning about this proclamation, 434 00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 9: she stated that it's La County's responsibility to protect every resident. Well, 435 00:25:57,440 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 9: what about the landlords? What about people who who are citizens, 436 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 9: are legal residents? Why don't they have protection? Very infuriating. 437 00:26:05,160 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 3: It's infuriating because a member of the county Board of 438 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:11,040 Speaker 3: Supervisors in this case, Lindsay Corbat doesn't understand what a 439 00:26:11,119 --> 00:26:16,280 Speaker 3: resident is and doesn't make the distinction between people that 440 00:26:16,480 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 3: live and work in Los Angeles and people that make 441 00:26:21,359 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 3: believe they're Angelino's and are masquerading as residents and workers 442 00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:33,000 Speaker 3: while lying because they're in the country illegally. 443 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:34,280 Speaker 1: She refuses to make. 444 00:26:34,160 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 3: That distinction, and it's because it's probably more so in 445 00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,440 Speaker 3: California than it is elsewhere. 446 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,000 Speaker 1: But I see it in Chicago, and I see it. 447 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 3: I used to see it in New York, and you 448 00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 3: see it sometime in Austin, Texas and in Denver. Democrats 449 00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:56,160 Speaker 3: care about illegals more than they care about you. Certainly, 450 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,760 Speaker 3: Democrats fight harder for illegals than they fight for you. 451 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,639 Speaker 3: Certainly in Los Angeles, Democrats care about the children of 452 00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,800 Speaker 3: illegals more than they care about your children. They never 453 00:27:08,840 --> 00:27:11,439 Speaker 3: talk about your children. They always talk about the children 454 00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: of illegals. They call them the children of our migrant community. 455 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:18,600 Speaker 3: But you and I both know what they're talking about. 456 00:27:18,640 --> 00:27:21,280 Speaker 3: They're not talking about you. You never called yourself a 457 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 3: member of the migrant community. You never consider yourself part 458 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 3: of all residents. 459 00:27:28,119 --> 00:27:33,400 Speaker 1: You live here, it's your city. My favorite one is. 460 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:36,399 Speaker 3: The undocumented community. That's my favorite. That one was around 461 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,080 Speaker 3: for a while. We went from illegal aliens, which is 462 00:27:40,119 --> 00:27:43,160 Speaker 3: what they are. They're alien nationals in the country illegally, 463 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 3: and that is a federal term from the Department of State. 464 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,320 Speaker 3: So that's not a made up pejorative. That is US code. 465 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 3: That's what you are. And then they that was too unkind, 466 00:27:57,359 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 3: so they just became immigrants, and Republicans pushed back and said, 467 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:09,080 Speaker 3: there's immigrants and there are illegal immigrants, and so they 468 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,000 Speaker 3: moved on because they couldn't get out of that one. 469 00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,679 Speaker 3: And they said, well, they're just undocumented. You don't know 470 00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:17,359 Speaker 3: what's going on there. They're just undocumented. And I said, 471 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:21,160 Speaker 3: that's not even an accurate term. If you are on vacate, 472 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:24,160 Speaker 3: you fly to London for a vacation and you get 473 00:28:24,200 --> 00:28:28,159 Speaker 3: your backpack stolen at Heathrow Airport and your passport's in 474 00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: the backpack. 475 00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:30,200 Speaker 1: Now you're undocumented. 476 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 3: If you cut a hole in the fence between the 477 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 3: United States and Mexico and then run through that hole 478 00:28:37,960 --> 00:28:40,200 Speaker 3: into the United States in the middle of the night 479 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 3: while throwing rocks at border patrol agents. 480 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,320 Speaker 1: You're not undocumented. You are an illegal alien. 481 00:28:48,600 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 3: And somehow all of us understand that distinction, except for 482 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:57,560 Speaker 3: a majority of the Los Angeles Border Supervisors. Loup Penrose 483 00:28:57,680 --> 00:29:01,240 Speaker 3: on KFI AM six forty live everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. 484 00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,440 Speaker 2: Hey, you've been listening to the John Cobalt Show podcast. 485 00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:06,960 Speaker 2: You can always hear the show live on KFI AM 486 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:10,040 Speaker 2: six forty from one to four pm every Monday through Friday, 487 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:13,320 Speaker 2: and of course, anytime on demand on the iHeartRadio app.