1 00:00:00,560 --> 00:00:02,760 Speaker 1: Hi, I'm George Ori and welcome to the new I 2 00:00:02,880 --> 00:00:06,160 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast a M paranormal podcast network. 3 00:00:06,360 --> 00:00:09,400 Speaker 1: Like us on Facebook, Tell your friends and share us 4 00:00:09,400 --> 00:00:12,560 Speaker 1: with everyone. This is an exciting new network that will 5 00:00:12,600 --> 00:00:16,840 Speaker 1: feature podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, and the unexplained. Now, 6 00:00:16,880 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: please sit back and enjoy Dark Becomes Light with Heidi Hollis. 7 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware of the thoughts 8 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:33,839 Speaker 1: and opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and 9 00:00:33,920 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: opinions only and do not reflect those of I Heart Media, 10 00:00:38,040 --> 00:00:42,800 Speaker 1: I Heart Radio, Coast to Coast AM, employees of premier networks, 11 00:00:43,159 --> 00:00:46,640 Speaker 1: or their sponsors and associates. We would like to encourage 12 00:00:46,680 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: you to do your own research and discover the subject 13 00:00:49,840 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: matter for yourself. Ah, you are listening to Dark Becomes 14 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:09,000 Speaker 1: Light with Me, Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio 15 00:01:09,600 --> 00:01:15,840 Speaker 1: and Coast to Coast a AM Paranormal podcast Network. Awn't 16 00:01:15,920 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: in my show. Remember each week this is the place 17 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,600 Speaker 1: you go to when you want to hear the latest 18 00:01:21,640 --> 00:01:24,680 Speaker 1: when it comes to any story out of the ordinary. 19 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:28,320 Speaker 1: I am talking about angel encounters, near death, experience of 20 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: big Foot, anything out of the ordinary. I want you 21 00:01:33,280 --> 00:01:35,880 Speaker 1: to go to my main website, which is Heidi Alice 22 00:01:36,040 --> 00:01:40,120 Speaker 1: dot com or shadow folks a dot com and of 23 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,920 Speaker 1: your stories, tell me what you've seen, tell me what 24 00:01:43,080 --> 00:01:46,360 Speaker 1: you've known or that you've heard, or if there's something 25 00:01:46,400 --> 00:01:49,280 Speaker 1: you've researched or something that you've read about that you 26 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,080 Speaker 1: want to have a dressed here on this program, I 27 00:01:52,120 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: will do that. And also the show is about giving 28 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:58,840 Speaker 1: you advice if you have questions, if you want to 29 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:01,880 Speaker 1: learn something, if there's something I can tell you about 30 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 1: your circumstances facing shadow people or hat man. That is 31 00:02:07,400 --> 00:02:10,280 Speaker 1: another specialty, of course, that I'm always talking about here 32 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:13,560 Speaker 1: on this program. And uh, you know, it's it's all 33 00:02:13,600 --> 00:02:17,840 Speaker 1: about building this puzzle, right we got pieces. I'm grabbing 34 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:21,240 Speaker 1: over here, you're grabbing over there and seeing what we've got. 35 00:02:21,560 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: And today it's my favorite kind of show because we 36 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:27,679 Speaker 1: are doing nothing but the emails that have been sent 37 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,600 Speaker 1: on over here. Don't you love those? I do too, 38 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: so um yeah, so we're gonna dive on into those. 39 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:35,120 Speaker 1: I really got to come up with a name for this, 40 00:02:35,200 --> 00:02:38,400 Speaker 1: I mean dark be light letters, maybe I don't know. 41 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,360 Speaker 1: I used to have different names for it over the 42 00:02:40,440 --> 00:02:44,160 Speaker 1: years when I would access and then read off some 43 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: of these emails and try to give some insight, try 44 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:49,839 Speaker 1: to give some advice where I could, and some help 45 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 1: where I could. And you know what's really beautiful, it's 46 00:02:54,160 --> 00:02:58,640 Speaker 1: working people are getting the message. I really get so 47 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:02,480 Speaker 1: touched so often during the week from people who will 48 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,079 Speaker 1: send me a message on any social media and just say, 49 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,880 Speaker 1: you know what, you helped me. You really helped me. 50 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: I was in a bad place, and uh, I got 51 00:03:12,639 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: rid of these things because I paid attention to what 52 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: you're saying. And I'm like, just one of those makes 53 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 1: all of this worth it. Just one of those, UM. 54 00:03:20,960 --> 00:03:24,160 Speaker 1: You know, I hear of people why they go into 55 00:03:24,440 --> 00:03:27,519 Speaker 1: becoming part of the clergy, you know, pastor or priest 56 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 1: or reverend, minister, and they're like, you know, it's about 57 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: saving lives and souls, And honestly, I kind of kind 58 00:03:34,440 --> 00:03:37,640 Speaker 1: of feel like that, UM in this position a lot 59 00:03:37,680 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 1: of the times because people are in some really really 60 00:03:40,880 --> 00:03:44,840 Speaker 1: horrible situations and it just rips my heart out, just 61 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: rips my heart out. Nobody should have to face anything dark, demonic, 62 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:53,720 Speaker 1: negative on their own. UM. But then also people have 63 00:03:53,800 --> 00:03:59,040 Speaker 1: some extraordinary experiences and it's just beautiful and nobody believes them. 64 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 1: That's another disappointment, Absolutely a disappointment, and it can really 65 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:06,839 Speaker 1: let a person down. UM. I know I've had where 66 00:04:06,840 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 1: I've seen things and and uh like just unbelievable stuff 67 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: like whoa, and not having that outlet of people not 68 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: so much just believing or even wanting to hear it. 69 00:04:20,680 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. That's difficult. It's really difficult. 70 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: So yeah, so I think having this kind of outlet building, 71 00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:34,080 Speaker 1: this community building, is important. We have to do this 72 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,040 Speaker 1: for each other. Um. I can't stress that enough. I 73 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 1: used to run a UFO paranormal discussion group count It. 74 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:45,920 Speaker 1: It was about fifteen years. Oh man. I had a 75 00:04:45,960 --> 00:04:49,880 Speaker 1: great time doing that. I met some extraordinary people and 76 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: I learned a lot, and I went to a lot 77 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: of conferences, um nearly of the time as a as 78 00:04:57,279 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: an audience member. UM. But I do appreciate meeting the 79 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:08,719 Speaker 1: people and having those sit down, cozy conversations. And I 80 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,760 Speaker 1: hope that you guys feel That's what I'm trying to 81 00:05:10,800 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 1: do here. I have a cozy conversation with everybody. UM. Okay, 82 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: so I'm gonna dive in where am I? Alright? So 83 00:05:17,400 --> 00:05:21,680 Speaker 1: this one, there's a short email, very very very short. Uh, 84 00:05:21,800 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 1: it says, keV, that's that's the name or nickname. Both 85 00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 1: of my daughters and my youngest son told me they 86 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:38,120 Speaker 1: saw or felt a shadow person in their room. My 87 00:05:38,200 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: daughter went into a fetal position when she saw a picture, 88 00:05:43,640 --> 00:05:49,160 Speaker 1: so I shrugged it off the end. That's that's that's 89 00:05:49,200 --> 00:05:53,840 Speaker 1: the email. I appreciate that, Kevi. I appreciate the note. Um, 90 00:05:54,600 --> 00:05:58,480 Speaker 1: I don't know how to really analyze that. Your response 91 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,080 Speaker 1: to it, You're you shrugged it off. She was in 92 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:03,640 Speaker 1: a fetal position. It sounds like it was absolutely terrifying 93 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: for her. I have seen people cower and pull in 94 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: like that, and you know, it is something like out 95 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:18,919 Speaker 1: of a horror movie. You hear of people being scared stiff, 96 00:06:19,400 --> 00:06:24,320 Speaker 1: like paralyzed, right, but there's also that protective pulling in 97 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:29,559 Speaker 1: and wow, Um, I could say that I have never 98 00:06:30,400 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: seen it but the one time, and it was when 99 00:06:34,480 --> 00:06:38,760 Speaker 1: my friend had witness hat Man for the first time, 100 00:06:39,520 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 1: and I ran in. I heard her doing a death 101 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:47,719 Speaker 1: cry like something out of the movies too, And I'm like, WHOA, 102 00:06:47,800 --> 00:06:50,000 Speaker 1: what is going on? And I bolted and ran to 103 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:54,719 Speaker 1: her room and and she had coward to the furthest 104 00:06:54,760 --> 00:06:58,720 Speaker 1: corner of the room and made herself so small and 105 00:06:58,760 --> 00:07:02,159 Speaker 1: I I don't even know how to express that. Clearly, 106 00:07:02,240 --> 00:07:06,400 Speaker 1: she made herself so small that it was like she 107 00:07:06,480 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: had shrunk in the fear of it, you know what 108 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying. Um, just absolutely just just just really really 109 00:07:15,120 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: horrible to witness and to know well, to have her 110 00:07:19,320 --> 00:07:23,040 Speaker 1: reacting like this, something physical is here, Oh my goodness. 111 00:07:23,120 --> 00:07:26,280 Speaker 1: And that is the person, ladies and gentlemen, who drew 112 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 1: the hat man image yet you see all over the 113 00:07:31,040 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: world today. And that was the first encounter. And it 114 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:38,720 Speaker 1: took me years before that thing would ever come to me, 115 00:07:39,240 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: And it was in the face of me writing my 116 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:46,720 Speaker 1: book The hat Man, and suddenly he found it worthy 117 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: to try to try to come at me. And he 118 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,320 Speaker 1: came at me in my bedroom and I knew who 119 00:07:54,320 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: it was, and I just refused to give him the 120 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:00,600 Speaker 1: fear that he was looking for. And then it came 121 00:08:00,640 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: to me twice at work as a therapist, went after 122 00:08:04,760 --> 00:08:09,200 Speaker 1: my patience, and yeah, just just crazy to sit there 123 00:08:09,200 --> 00:08:14,239 Speaker 1: and experience that. And then after that he came as 124 00:08:14,320 --> 00:08:18,120 Speaker 1: a as an intruder in a dream. I mean, boy, 125 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 1: these things really try, they really try to get to 126 00:08:21,120 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: know you and try to find those spots to shove 127 00:08:24,280 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: their little nasty, disgusting fingers into. And hat man, he 128 00:08:28,040 --> 00:08:31,080 Speaker 1: is about the worst out there. Um well he is, 129 00:08:31,120 --> 00:08:33,960 Speaker 1: I mean, calls himself the devil. That's that that's pretty bad. 130 00:08:34,040 --> 00:08:37,000 Speaker 1: Why don't you say I'd say that's that's pretty good? Awful? 131 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:41,240 Speaker 1: All right? So, um so I am going to hop 132 00:08:41,280 --> 00:08:46,560 Speaker 1: on over to this next email, and boy, this is uh, 133 00:08:46,640 --> 00:08:48,960 Speaker 1: this is a this is a doozy. This is a doozy. 134 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,880 Speaker 1: All right. Let me see this big, big joiant email. Alright, 135 00:08:52,880 --> 00:08:54,319 Speaker 1: I think I don't have to break this one down. 136 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:59,120 Speaker 1: This one says, dear Heidi. The following is my written 137 00:08:59,160 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 1: account of my alien abduction as I can remember it. Okay, 138 00:09:04,360 --> 00:09:10,199 Speaker 1: we got aliens today, the extraterrestrial, the fourth kind. Many 139 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: people dismiss the idea of quote aliens the extraterrestrial kind. 140 00:09:17,480 --> 00:09:23,400 Speaker 1: Most people would say they don't exist, or it's all imagination, 141 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 1: just like they used to say about ghosts and other entities. 142 00:09:28,480 --> 00:09:31,560 Speaker 1: That's true, it's very true. If people haven't experienced it, 143 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:35,679 Speaker 1: it hasn't happened. Right Since our government is slowly coming 144 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 1: out about UFOs or what is now called u a 145 00:09:38,600 --> 00:09:42,240 Speaker 1: p s. We still call it UFOs here. I'm not 146 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,760 Speaker 1: going with their little definition. Okay. So anyways, I've decided 147 00:09:45,800 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 1: to publicly tell my story and experience. And it began 148 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:53,959 Speaker 1: when I was a toddler. Man. You know how many 149 00:09:53,960 --> 00:09:56,160 Speaker 1: times people have written me and tell me they remember 150 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,480 Speaker 1: as a toddler. It's amazing to me. It's amazing, and 151 00:10:00,520 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 1: it seems to be at moments that were absolutely terrifying. 152 00:10:04,840 --> 00:10:07,040 Speaker 1: It left a mark in their memory where it was 153 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:12,199 Speaker 1: hard to ever forget what fully happened. So all right, continuing, 154 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,640 Speaker 1: I remembered waking up at night with a very bright 155 00:10:16,720 --> 00:10:19,960 Speaker 1: light coming through the window opposite of my bed. I 156 00:10:19,960 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 1: don't remember anything else about that night, just what I've 157 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:27,400 Speaker 1: written at this point, but it is the first of 158 00:10:27,440 --> 00:10:32,880 Speaker 1: the memories of visits. I can remember the bright lights 159 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:36,160 Speaker 1: waking me up a few times a year every year 160 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:41,199 Speaker 1: from that point until a few years ago. Oh my gosh, 161 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: oh my goodness, you can remember all of that. When 162 00:10:45,520 --> 00:10:48,520 Speaker 1: I was fourteen, I stood outside and said out loud, 163 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:55,840 Speaker 1: if you all are real, show me Within several minutes 164 00:10:55,920 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: after I'd seen a ufoh I have some relation to 165 00:11:02,880 --> 00:11:08,000 Speaker 1: that one. Uh. It was triangular with red lights hovering 166 00:11:08,400 --> 00:11:13,240 Speaker 1: right above me. I ran into the house scared. Oh 167 00:11:13,360 --> 00:11:15,679 Speaker 1: I had a moment like that too, at a moment 168 00:11:15,760 --> 00:11:19,679 Speaker 1: like that, and uh, I feel you because I was like, 169 00:11:19,720 --> 00:11:22,640 Speaker 1: you know, everybody's talking to my ear about Oh, these 170 00:11:22,640 --> 00:11:26,120 Speaker 1: things aren't real. Oh it's demonic. Oh it's this and that. 171 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 1: And I went out just very much like you did here. 172 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 1: And I went into the back and I'm like, look, 173 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:36,040 Speaker 1: all right, you guys. If you have anything to do 174 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:40,600 Speaker 1: with something evil negative, I don't want anything to do 175 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: with you. This is it unless you show yourself right now. 176 00:11:45,800 --> 00:11:47,319 Speaker 1: I know I mentioned it here on the show. And 177 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,559 Speaker 1: let me tell you this thing, this disk showing up 178 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: at one end of the parking lot that I was 179 00:11:56,200 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: standing in. And but first I should say that there 180 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 1: was a little little little zigzig that went overhead. Uh. 181 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 1: And I said, that's not good enough. And then a 182 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:11,240 Speaker 1: disc showed up and just streaked across the sky, uh, 183 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: probably just a few stories above where I was, and 184 00:12:14,679 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 1: and uh, and just lit up the parking lot I 185 00:12:17,880 --> 00:12:23,440 Speaker 1: was standing in. And wow, you guys, imagine that. Imagine 186 00:12:23,480 --> 00:12:27,320 Speaker 1: that you are, you're in this reality and something was 187 00:12:27,520 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: listening to you on such a level that they showed 188 00:12:32,120 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 1: up in a physical ship, and this is what is 189 00:12:36,280 --> 00:12:40,000 Speaker 1: being related here. I can't tell you what that does 190 00:12:40,080 --> 00:12:43,199 Speaker 1: to person. It makes you feel like you're never alone, 191 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 1: first of all, and you also feel like like a 192 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,600 Speaker 1: kind of kinship to it too. Now I'm not saying 193 00:12:49,600 --> 00:12:52,920 Speaker 1: all of these ships that are buzzing around are good guys. 194 00:12:53,160 --> 00:12:55,839 Speaker 1: Oh no. My first book is called The Secret War 195 00:12:55,920 --> 00:13:00,160 Speaker 1: for a reason. Um, so it's uh, it's really kind 196 00:13:00,160 --> 00:13:02,360 Speaker 1: of earth shattering. But I want to continue this story 197 00:13:02,480 --> 00:13:05,240 Speaker 1: that was a big email um after the break and 198 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: dive on into this. You guys, you are listening to 199 00:13:07,640 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on the I 200 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I am Paranormal Podcast Network. 201 00:13:16,200 --> 00:13:36,400 Speaker 1: Stick around, We'll be right back. Welcome back. You are 202 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:40,440 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Becomes Light with me Heidi Hollis on 203 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:44,599 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast I am 204 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:48,920 Speaker 1: Paranormal Podcast Network. Just for the break, I started this 205 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 1: big juicy camail um in regards to an alien encounter. 206 00:13:53,800 --> 00:13:56,400 Speaker 1: This comes to us from a Jennifer just so you 207 00:13:56,440 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: guys know, and they spoke of having said's recalling having 208 00:14:01,440 --> 00:14:05,880 Speaker 1: visits as a toddler. And then being awakened by bright 209 00:14:06,000 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: lights a few times a year. And this would happen 210 00:14:10,000 --> 00:14:12,200 Speaker 1: their whole life until just a few years ago. But 211 00:14:12,720 --> 00:14:15,040 Speaker 1: are you interesting enough? They had an encounter when they 212 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:18,480 Speaker 1: were fourteen years old when they set out loud, if 213 00:14:18,520 --> 00:14:22,240 Speaker 1: you're real, show me, and within several minutes, a UFO 214 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: showed up, and Jennifer says, after this triangular shaped craft 215 00:14:26,920 --> 00:14:30,040 Speaker 1: showed up with red lights right above her, she ran 216 00:14:30,080 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 1: into the house scared, which I don't blame you, all right, 217 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: So to continue this story, it says, when I calmed 218 00:14:36,360 --> 00:14:40,080 Speaker 1: down and realized what I'd seen, I went back out. 219 00:14:41,400 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: I hear, you should have could a wood it right? Um? 220 00:14:44,840 --> 00:14:47,640 Speaker 1: But it was gone for me. I was like, hey, 221 00:14:47,720 --> 00:14:49,920 Speaker 1: where didn't I have my camera? My cameras right next 222 00:14:49,920 --> 00:14:52,440 Speaker 1: to me. Just the craziest things. I mean, we always 223 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 1: think like we could have done better, But all right, 224 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: I don't have memories of them standing over my bed. Hmm. Okay, um, 225 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:06,800 Speaker 1: I don't have memories of medical experiments. Okay, not saying 226 00:15:06,800 --> 00:15:09,440 Speaker 1: that they didn't, but I don't have memories of it. 227 00:15:09,800 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: Until a few years ago, I didn't have any memories 228 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,760 Speaker 1: except the lights through the window. That's an interesting element 229 00:15:18,920 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: of alien contact, alien abduction. They mess with people's memories. Okay, 230 00:15:24,200 --> 00:15:27,680 Speaker 1: I mean this is common, um, but it's also sporadic 231 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 1: how these things come back to a person. I mean, 232 00:15:31,880 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 1: it's the weirdest things that might trigger what some people 233 00:15:35,120 --> 00:15:39,560 Speaker 1: have as a PTSD type of response, and that could 234 00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,080 Speaker 1: come in a lot of different ways. I mean, people 235 00:15:42,120 --> 00:15:45,200 Speaker 1: are stressed, they're not sleeping, they're getting flashes of memories 236 00:15:45,240 --> 00:15:48,280 Speaker 1: of odd things, or they're they're suddenly petrified of certain 237 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:53,040 Speaker 1: areas or open sky. Uh. And then slowly they start 238 00:15:53,120 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 1: to realize that it had alien arms and eyes and 239 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 1: body behind it. Um. So it's a it's a crazy phenomenon. 240 00:16:02,800 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: It's really a crazy phenomenon, all right. So continuing, Jennifer says, 241 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:10,240 Speaker 1: a few years ago, I'm forty five now, So I 242 00:16:10,320 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: was thirty nine, and I woke up knowing I had 243 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:20,800 Speaker 1: been somewhere, okay, a very far somewhere. I had a 244 00:16:20,800 --> 00:16:25,240 Speaker 1: piece of memory of this trip. I knew it was 245 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:29,240 Speaker 1: more of a round trip instead of going to a destination. 246 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:33,320 Speaker 1: I don't know why I can remember this so clearly. 247 00:16:34,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: I was sitting in a half lit room, and I 248 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:42,120 Speaker 1: could see other people sitting near me, these these types 249 00:16:42,120 --> 00:16:45,640 Speaker 1: of I don't know if they're always abductions, but these 250 00:16:45,840 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: mass abductions or mass contact experiences are really interesting guys, 251 00:16:51,640 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: because a lot of times these people they'll they'll see 252 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 1: each other later in life or something, or they they 253 00:16:57,440 --> 00:16:59,920 Speaker 1: they're like, gosh, you know, I went to this UFO 254 00:17:00,080 --> 00:17:04,680 Speaker 1: meeting and uh, and somebody feels or looks familiar to them. 255 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:08,000 Speaker 1: And this is a common thing, very very common. Um 256 00:17:08,200 --> 00:17:11,840 Speaker 1: So I just find it fascinating when this takes place. 257 00:17:11,880 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 1: And let me tell you, I've been in this for 258 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:16,960 Speaker 1: a long time and I met a lot of people 259 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: who met a lot of author has meant a lot 260 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,600 Speaker 1: of um plain experiencers, and you know, whether they're kind 261 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:29,119 Speaker 1: of a person that's more outwardly speaking on their experiences 262 00:17:29,200 --> 00:17:32,520 Speaker 1: or not. And some of these people have come forward 263 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:35,320 Speaker 1: to be doing a lot of interesting things on television 264 00:17:35,400 --> 00:17:38,359 Speaker 1: and um, you know, in their lives and whatnot. And 265 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:43,240 Speaker 1: you'd be really surprised how few of them will speak 266 00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:48,800 Speaker 1: to having memories of these mass abduction or contact experiences. 267 00:17:48,800 --> 00:17:52,440 Speaker 1: And I know several of them, and uh, it's always 268 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 1: always kind of fascinating to me. You know. Let me 269 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 1: talk about that a little bit because before I continue here, 270 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:03,880 Speaker 1: because there's a similar scenario that goes on with this 271 00:18:03,960 --> 00:18:08,719 Speaker 1: where I've heard of people that have noticed or felt 272 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 1: like something was going on and then in their neighborhood okay, 273 00:18:13,760 --> 00:18:15,919 Speaker 1: and they would see bright lights and look out their 274 00:18:15,960 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: window and you know, the neighbors are coming out in 275 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:23,879 Speaker 1: their pajamas. Yeah, and uh and and they're walking along 276 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:26,000 Speaker 1: the street and there's a bright light down the street 277 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:31,120 Speaker 1: or something. Yeah. That this is something that people experience personally. 278 00:18:32,000 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 1: I had a different kind of experience that didn't involve 279 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 1: aliens and involved our military people doing one of those 280 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:43,600 Speaker 1: lovely my labs you know, military abductions, that's what that 281 00:18:43,680 --> 00:18:47,359 Speaker 1: stands for. Yeah. So, um, I would say they have 282 00:18:47,480 --> 00:18:51,120 Speaker 1: their hands on some very similar technology to be able 283 00:18:51,119 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 1: to pull something like that off, which is who I 284 00:18:54,840 --> 00:19:00,959 Speaker 1: can tell you, guys, the most insulting experience to know 285 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:05,359 Speaker 1: that people that you're you're paying their their you know, 286 00:19:05,400 --> 00:19:11,119 Speaker 1: their salary, are violating you by taking you against your 287 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: will somewhere and following these orders. Okay. Um. People were 288 00:19:17,080 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: persecuted for following unruly leaders, right that did atrocities two 289 00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:27,960 Speaker 1: masses of people. Right, Why are our soldiers following these 290 00:19:28,040 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: orders when they know it's wrong. This is not a 291 00:19:31,560 --> 00:19:35,040 Speaker 1: matter of security. If it was a matter of security, 292 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:39,080 Speaker 1: they'd be protecting us from what's going on. But instead 293 00:19:39,880 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: they participated in it. So I'd say, who, this is 294 00:19:44,840 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: just a deep, deep trench. Um, So okay, I'm going 295 00:19:47,800 --> 00:19:52,720 Speaker 1: to continue, damn you. But yes, look into mass abduction 296 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:57,200 Speaker 1: and mass contact experiences, really really fascinating stuff. All right, Um, 297 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:03,280 Speaker 1: they continue. The room was metal pod like, possibly pentagon shaped. 298 00:20:04,200 --> 00:20:08,960 Speaker 1: I was very awake, but I was calm. The other 299 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: people just sat there staring at the floor. I was 300 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:18,600 Speaker 1: thinking they were still sedated. So I get up and 301 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:21,960 Speaker 1: I leave this room. Oh I love it, and walked 302 00:20:22,040 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: down a narrow, dark hallway, no fear whatsoever. I enter 303 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: a room with one extraterrestrial seated in front of a 304 00:20:33,080 --> 00:20:38,400 Speaker 1: bunch of buttons and a great big window. I looked 305 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: out the window and thought to myself, we're heading back 306 00:20:41,480 --> 00:20:45,679 Speaker 1: to Earth. This, this, this is good. I have to 307 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:49,720 Speaker 1: tell you too. The scenario of somebody walking around the 308 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 1: ship and surprisingly having the ability to move around the 309 00:20:54,000 --> 00:20:58,560 Speaker 1: ship and to see the big pane glass window on 310 00:20:58,640 --> 00:21:02,000 Speaker 1: the front of the ship and seeing Earth is something 311 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:04,959 Speaker 1: I've heard a lot of as well. It's amazing to me. 312 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:09,040 Speaker 1: Why why would this is all for good? Why not 313 00:21:09,160 --> 00:21:12,680 Speaker 1: let us have our memories fully? This person here luckily 314 00:21:12,760 --> 00:21:16,240 Speaker 1: has a good chunk, but there's a lot that's missing, 315 00:21:16,280 --> 00:21:19,600 Speaker 1: Like where'd you go? How is that going? Why they 316 00:21:19,640 --> 00:21:24,399 Speaker 1: send you there? Alright? So continuing, I watched as we 317 00:21:24,480 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: passed through space. We passed by some space junk like satellites, 318 00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:33,840 Speaker 1: which I had a weird fear of. I don't blame you, uh, 319 00:21:33,880 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 1: and stars that were like white streaks. The extraterrestrial looked 320 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:44,560 Speaker 1: at me and this being was wearing a smooth, shiny 321 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:49,640 Speaker 1: cape with a hood. The hood was pulled up onto 322 00:21:49,840 --> 00:21:53,199 Speaker 1: his head. I don't know how I knew it was 323 00:21:53,240 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 1: a heat. That's that's interesting. A lot of people they 324 00:21:56,960 --> 00:22:00,240 Speaker 1: can kind of get a feel for what is in 325 00:22:00,280 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: front of them, like their gender, and uh yeah, it's 326 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 1: it's always kind of perplexing to people why they can 327 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:14,000 Speaker 1: distinguish this being a male or female or whatever. And uh, yeah, 328 00:22:14,280 --> 00:22:16,399 Speaker 1: I don't I don't quite understand that either, But I 329 00:22:16,920 --> 00:22:20,080 Speaker 1: think it goes along with this this thing that's in 330 00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,879 Speaker 1: us all to know what's before us, Uh, to be 331 00:22:23,920 --> 00:22:27,120 Speaker 1: able to sense of something as good or evil. Uh. 332 00:22:27,359 --> 00:22:31,119 Speaker 1: We have this instinct, right, and it's very important that 333 00:22:31,160 --> 00:22:35,160 Speaker 1: we take that part of us and allow it to 334 00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: reach out before we do so we can feel out 335 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:42,440 Speaker 1: our situation, not in the sense, of course the gender 336 00:22:42,480 --> 00:22:45,439 Speaker 1: of this this creature, but to know if it's a 337 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:51,199 Speaker 1: threat or if it's a friend. Alright, So continuing, I 338 00:22:51,280 --> 00:22:55,560 Speaker 1: walk over to him and asked telepathically if I could 339 00:22:55,560 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 1: pull the hood down to see him better, and he 340 00:22:59,560 --> 00:23:03,879 Speaker 1: allowed me to pull it down. Okay, he resembled the 341 00:23:03,960 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: famous gray aliens, but his skin color was brown instead 342 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,960 Speaker 1: of gray. I've heard of those. His head was shaped 343 00:23:13,000 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: differently too, it was elongated with crevices. He was obviously 344 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:23,240 Speaker 1: the one flying the ship. After that, I was back 345 00:23:23,320 --> 00:23:27,000 Speaker 1: at my house. I don't know if there was more 346 00:23:27,160 --> 00:23:30,720 Speaker 1: that I don't remember, or if I was immediately transported 347 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: to my house. I'm quite certain this is a real memory. 348 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: I can remember every single detail of it. I don't 349 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:44,919 Speaker 1: know why I was abducted. I don't know why I 350 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:48,720 Speaker 1: wasn't afraid or why I wasn't sedated like the other people. 351 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:54,840 Speaker 1: All I know is we are not alone. M that's 352 00:23:54,880 --> 00:23:58,120 Speaker 1: a that's that's a tremendous story. Thank you. So much 353 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:03,679 Speaker 1: for sending that along, Jennifer. That was Wow. It gives 354 00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:08,439 Speaker 1: an honest perspective of how people just come up with 355 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:12,960 Speaker 1: these memories. Imagine having that thing come back to you. 356 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: This all, this whole scenario of I was just gone 357 00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: from here, absolutely gone, and you trust your instincts, you 358 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:26,080 Speaker 1: trust your knowledge, you trust your eyeballs, you trust all 359 00:24:26,119 --> 00:24:29,399 Speaker 1: of these senses, and then you go, I want to 360 00:24:29,440 --> 00:24:32,680 Speaker 1: screw this from the top the tallest mountain and there's 361 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 1: nobody that's sitting there wanting to listen to this. Always, 362 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,760 Speaker 1: you know, it's like what, why not? Where are we? 363 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: Why are we missing in this area? There have been 364 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,920 Speaker 1: ancient texts written on such experience as that we still 365 00:24:47,920 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 1: read today. They use their words to describe what it 366 00:24:50,960 --> 00:24:54,480 Speaker 1: is they experienced, and today we use different wording. But 367 00:24:54,720 --> 00:25:00,399 Speaker 1: they sound extraordinary. They sound very equally it testing and 368 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:03,879 Speaker 1: I'm not saying, you know, like biblical religious texts only. 369 00:25:04,200 --> 00:25:07,359 Speaker 1: There's been a lot of different types of scenarios that 370 00:25:07,400 --> 00:25:12,240 Speaker 1: have been written of or painted over the centuries of 371 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:18,080 Speaker 1: what humankind is is experiencing. And I hope, I hope 372 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:21,360 Speaker 1: that will start taking this more serious. And uh, it's 373 00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:23,080 Speaker 1: getting there. It's getting there all right, So we're gonna 374 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: get to our next break so we can continue discussing 375 00:25:26,040 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: this liga. You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with 376 00:25:29,800 --> 00:25:34,040 Speaker 1: me Heidi Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast 377 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:38,960 Speaker 1: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Sticking around, I have 378 00:25:39,000 --> 00:25:58,800 Speaker 1: a story share where you're right. Welcome back. You are 379 00:25:58,880 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 1: listening to Dark Comes Light with me Heidi Hollis on 380 00:26:02,800 --> 00:26:07,600 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal 381 00:26:07,880 --> 00:26:12,080 Speaker 1: Podcast Network. Just before the break, I had a really 382 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: interesting email from Jennifer who was sharing about her life 383 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 1: long interactions with alien beings and once that are not 384 00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:24,560 Speaker 1: often spoken of, these ones who are more brown with 385 00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:27,840 Speaker 1: like crevices on their heads, and I've heard of them, 386 00:26:27,960 --> 00:26:32,680 Speaker 1: and I've also heard of people having these understandings when 387 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: they go back and forth with different beings and sometimes 388 00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,639 Speaker 1: they're just kind of hanging out on other planets. And 389 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:44,640 Speaker 1: and that sounds so extraordinary, right, And uh, I get it. 390 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 1: I do UM personally, I know that I've seen other 391 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: things in other places, UM, not as an abductee. I 392 00:26:53,560 --> 00:26:56,520 Speaker 1: don't have memories of that kind of thing either. And 393 00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,680 Speaker 1: and from what I'm hearing here, this person has not 394 00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: felt like they've been abducted and violated in that sense either. Now, 395 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,679 Speaker 1: when that's the case, I don't, I don't know for 396 00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:15,160 Speaker 1: for effect, But you see these patterns, right, So imagine 397 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:22,120 Speaker 1: there's people that have these expeditions, if you will. Um, 398 00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:26,159 Speaker 1: they do go and check out these other places, and um, 399 00:27:26,280 --> 00:27:29,160 Speaker 1: they learn things. Uh, And it's almost as if they 400 00:27:29,240 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: belong to these different races of beings and they feel 401 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:37,680 Speaker 1: like they're being taught things. They feel that they're teaching 402 00:27:37,720 --> 00:27:42,119 Speaker 1: these beings things, and it's almost like, um, what do 403 00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,200 Speaker 1: you call an exchange student type of thing? But then 404 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: sometimes if people like Jennifer here don't don't know for sure, 405 00:27:49,960 --> 00:27:54,199 Speaker 1: but if they get regressed, sometimes they recall agreeing to 406 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:58,080 Speaker 1: participate in this manner. But also those who get abducted 407 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:03,000 Speaker 1: and experimented on and have children created and taken from them. 408 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,040 Speaker 1: Uh is it always a good thing? I don't. I don't. 409 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,600 Speaker 1: I don't think that. Uh, anything that's causing you harm 410 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,960 Speaker 1: is a good thing, no matter how you look at it. 411 00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:14,639 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. To dive a little further 412 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:20,359 Speaker 1: on this, and how the people around Jennifer here seemed 413 00:28:20,440 --> 00:28:24,080 Speaker 1: sedated while she was not and was walking around, and 414 00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: the alien didn't seem too concerned about her walking around. 415 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: I mean, like where is she going to escape to? 416 00:28:29,840 --> 00:28:31,800 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. So it's almost like a 417 00:28:31,840 --> 00:28:33,879 Speaker 1: bus driver. It's like you can get off at the 418 00:28:33,920 --> 00:28:37,960 Speaker 1: next stop. We'll beat me down. It'll be just fine. Okay, 419 00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:39,960 Speaker 1: So I got something to share with you. So I 420 00:28:40,000 --> 00:28:42,280 Speaker 1: don't know, I don't think I've written about this in 421 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:44,680 Speaker 1: any of my books. This is a little different. I 422 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: admit it's a little different. And um, I don't I 423 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:52,440 Speaker 1: don't know if I've ever even spoke about it on 424 00:28:52,480 --> 00:28:56,240 Speaker 1: the air, because it is, it is out there, um, 425 00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: and it didn't quite relate to help with any certain topic. Um. 426 00:29:00,360 --> 00:29:05,320 Speaker 1: But for myself, I have had memories of going to 427 00:29:05,480 --> 00:29:09,880 Speaker 1: other places, and um, I have spoke about some of 428 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: the places, but one of them in particular, I know 429 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 1: it was another planet, and I suddenly have this memory 430 00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 1: of of having been there and the Earth being rather reddish, 431 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: orange ish sandy, and walking through like almost what looked 432 00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:36,480 Speaker 1: like dunes of of a sort of this like sandy 433 00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: like nature, right, and you know, knowing this place looking 434 00:29:41,000 --> 00:29:44,600 Speaker 1: up and seeing more than one son, Yeah I did, 435 00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: and and walking to this known understanding. I knew where 436 00:29:50,480 --> 00:29:57,480 Speaker 1: I was walking to very huge buildings, extremely huge buildings, 437 00:29:57,560 --> 00:30:03,200 Speaker 1: and I thought of them as universities. Um, they were 438 00:30:03,560 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 1: larger than a human would need to attend. Okay, And 439 00:30:09,240 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: coming upon this these buildings and the structure was like 440 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,320 Speaker 1: spires almost um not not well, I guess they were 441 00:30:20,360 --> 00:30:23,719 Speaker 1: a metallic but there were more earth than even like 442 00:30:23,760 --> 00:30:26,920 Speaker 1: a combination maybe is a good way to put it. 443 00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:31,400 Speaker 1: Kind of a different kind of thought on how metal 444 00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 1: should be and how metal should reflect, if that is 445 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:42,160 Speaker 1: painting the picture better. And going there now there's no 446 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:46,160 Speaker 1: like cars or craft parked around like you know, people 447 00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:49,000 Speaker 1: are all in class or something. No, no, no, this 448 00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: is like a standing university in the middle of this 449 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:57,600 Speaker 1: huge planet of sorts. And and and I had the 450 00:30:57,680 --> 00:31:00,080 Speaker 1: understanding that there were other things on this planet. It 451 00:31:00,240 --> 00:31:04,440 Speaker 1: this this certain section was for going here to learn, 452 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:11,640 Speaker 1: and also understanding that I wasn't going there to pull 453 00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:16,720 Speaker 1: in and observations to learn new things to bring back here, 454 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. Like I knew I would 455 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,239 Speaker 1: have limitations, that's a better way to put it. I 456 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 1: would have limitations on what I would recall later. And 457 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: I knew that going there, and uh and I went 458 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,120 Speaker 1: and I remember thinking, oh, this is a it was 459 00:31:30,120 --> 00:31:33,400 Speaker 1: a cool university. I I know, I've been there before, 460 00:31:33,480 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 1: but it was still it was almost like it was 461 00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 1: a little bit newer for me going there and going 462 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: to the extraordinarily large opening for like the doorway, and 463 00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,840 Speaker 1: it's not like the door open, it was opened already. 464 00:31:47,880 --> 00:31:53,000 Speaker 1: It was like a almost like a caved archway where 465 00:31:53,000 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: you go inside. And I knew the floor I needed 466 00:31:57,200 --> 00:32:01,560 Speaker 1: to go to write this is the craziest part, because 467 00:32:01,720 --> 00:32:05,959 Speaker 1: I don't know how better to put this, and going 468 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: to this like elevator shaft, all right, there's no floor, 469 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:18,240 Speaker 1: there's no floor, and going in and oh man, how 470 00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:23,600 Speaker 1: taller these ceilings. Oh the ceilings had to be I 471 00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 1: don't know, six stories. It's just super high, extraordinarily high. 472 00:32:29,200 --> 00:32:34,800 Speaker 1: And then to go into these extraordinarily large elevators, okay, 473 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:38,800 Speaker 1: and I'm like, well, there's there's no floor, but I 474 00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 1: knew to stand there. And for some reason, I've got 475 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:49,360 Speaker 1: this memory of there being someone telling me it's okay, 476 00:32:49,360 --> 00:32:52,480 Speaker 1: stop on it. You step in there, and I step 477 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,080 Speaker 1: in there, and I'm not kidding you. I was on 478 00:32:56,240 --> 00:33:02,120 Speaker 1: a tuft of air. You hear me a tuft of air. 479 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:06,400 Speaker 1: It's not like, you know, my shirt is flapping or 480 00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:08,880 Speaker 1: my hair is flapping, or my lips are flapping in 481 00:33:08,920 --> 00:33:11,240 Speaker 1: the in the wind or something, you know, or I 482 00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:15,800 Speaker 1: couldn't talk or breathe. I felt like a tuft of 483 00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:20,719 Speaker 1: air I had stuffed on and thinking the thought of 484 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,400 Speaker 1: the floor that I needed to go to, and I 485 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:29,040 Speaker 1: was brought up so gently into the air, up the 486 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:33,440 Speaker 1: shaft of this elevator and then reaching that floor and 487 00:33:33,560 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 1: just gently, lightly being guided off the floor, and uh, 488 00:33:39,000 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: just marveling at the beauty of this building, in this 489 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,560 Speaker 1: space and the enormity of it, uh and just taking 490 00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:51,120 Speaker 1: it in and knowing when I took my step off 491 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:54,479 Speaker 1: that floor, and coming and looking down the hall and 492 00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:58,000 Speaker 1: seeing the place I was about to go into. I 493 00:33:58,040 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: knew I wouldn't have the memory of this part. I 494 00:34:00,960 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 1: knew this, but I was so like overjoyed, And I 495 00:34:04,280 --> 00:34:08,040 Speaker 1: remember looking back at that elevator shaft like that is 496 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: the coolest thing right there, Like everybody should ride this thing. 497 00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:15,080 Speaker 1: It was so much fun. And there's no way anybody 498 00:34:15,080 --> 00:34:17,680 Speaker 1: would have any kind of fear of being in this 499 00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:21,560 Speaker 1: type of elevator, because you don't feel crowded. I was 500 00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:25,200 Speaker 1: totally thinking that like that, you don't feel a claustrophobic. 501 00:34:25,400 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 1: It's all open, you know. Yeah, there was like closed 502 00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:32,360 Speaker 1: walls in between the floors, but it's open, you know, 503 00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:35,000 Speaker 1: all the floors are open. You're on air for crying 504 00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,000 Speaker 1: out loud. So it was. It was pretty darn cool, 505 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,880 Speaker 1: I must add. So I wonder was Jennifer heading to 506 00:34:41,960 --> 00:34:45,719 Speaker 1: a place like that. I don't know. I don't know. Um. 507 00:34:45,960 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 1: I don't recall how I got to where I was. 508 00:34:49,840 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 1: I don't recall how I got back, um, anything like that. 509 00:34:54,360 --> 00:34:58,400 Speaker 1: But another thing to know and to understand when people 510 00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: say that they've had contact, and I know for myself 511 00:35:03,160 --> 00:35:07,680 Speaker 1: when I've had contact, not abductions. I don't recall being abducted. 512 00:35:08,000 --> 00:35:11,839 Speaker 1: I don't recall having any experiments or anything like that. 513 00:35:11,920 --> 00:35:14,760 Speaker 1: And I've been introduced on shows like and here's Heidi 514 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:19,080 Speaker 1: Hollis an alien objecting. I'm like, whoa buddy, No, no, no, no, 515 00:35:20,200 --> 00:35:22,560 Speaker 1: um so, and they're just like, well, perhaps you just 516 00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:26,760 Speaker 1: don't remember. Well maybe one day I will, but right now, no, UM. 517 00:35:26,840 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 1: I know that things have tried to get at me, um, 518 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:33,759 Speaker 1: I don't know of them being successful. Perhaps again that 519 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,080 Speaker 1: memory will come forward or I might dig. I don't know. 520 00:35:37,280 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: I have not been successfully hypnotically regressed. So um. But 521 00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:49,320 Speaker 1: I'll say about these types of scenarios that sometimes sometimes 522 00:35:50,080 --> 00:35:56,239 Speaker 1: we don't go physically, we go spiritually, and the spiritual 523 00:35:56,280 --> 00:36:02,000 Speaker 1: adventures can seem rather physical. I know this for myself. 524 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 1: I have gone through walls, I have gone into situations, 525 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:11,799 Speaker 1: but I still feel a physical body. But I know 526 00:36:11,920 --> 00:36:14,040 Speaker 1: that I'm not quite in a physical body. You will 527 00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 1: hear people say this when it comes to having near 528 00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:22,840 Speaker 1: death experiences, that they have this feel of having on 529 00:36:22,920 --> 00:36:26,600 Speaker 1: an outfit or having their jewelry on, or seeing their 530 00:36:26,640 --> 00:36:30,400 Speaker 1: loved ones also dressed and and very much walking through 531 00:36:30,640 --> 00:36:35,000 Speaker 1: beautiful gardens. They feel, and they smell, and they see, 532 00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,840 Speaker 1: they hear. I mean, it's like physical bodies. So for 533 00:36:39,000 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: me when I go to these places, I can't help 534 00:36:42,440 --> 00:36:45,680 Speaker 1: but to think. Um. Others are of course having these 535 00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:49,440 Speaker 1: types of experiences. And but with Jennifer, she literally was 536 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:53,840 Speaker 1: in a craft. So transportation different, I don't know. But 537 00:36:53,880 --> 00:36:57,719 Speaker 1: not everybody has taken or ventures I should say, not 538 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:02,640 Speaker 1: always taken um, but venture errs uh in different scenarios 539 00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:07,719 Speaker 1: as in spiritform. So um yeah. So Jennifer, I really 540 00:37:07,719 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: appreciate your story here. It really helps to paint a 541 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:14,000 Speaker 1: picture for people to see how these types of memories 542 00:37:14,000 --> 00:37:18,880 Speaker 1: come forward and how people deal with it. And and you, again, 543 00:37:19,000 --> 00:37:21,960 Speaker 1: you didn't have fear, so there might have been a 544 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: more you know, duscile approach these beings had. It wasn't 545 00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 1: intrusive for you. But then there's also this understanding that 546 00:37:31,920 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: it's just because you have a positive experience with one 547 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:38,040 Speaker 1: type of being doesn't mean more negative beings will also 548 00:37:38,080 --> 00:37:40,919 Speaker 1: try to put their fingers into the mix and really 549 00:37:40,960 --> 00:37:42,960 Speaker 1: confused matters because you'll just be like, all I just 550 00:37:43,000 --> 00:37:47,440 Speaker 1: have the greatest adventure. I've got these abuses happening, and 551 00:37:47,520 --> 00:37:49,799 Speaker 1: it's not always the same being doing it, or they 552 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: might It's such a confusing scenario that a lot of 553 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:55,520 Speaker 1: people are presented with. But all right, we're gonna get 554 00:37:55,520 --> 00:37:58,120 Speaker 1: to our next break, and we've got another email you guys, 555 00:37:58,160 --> 00:38:01,240 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Life with Me Heidi 556 00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:04,320 Speaker 1: Hollis on the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast 557 00:38:04,360 --> 00:38:25,719 Speaker 1: DAUM Paranormal Podcast Network. We'll be right back. Welcome back. 558 00:38:26,040 --> 00:38:28,960 Speaker 1: You are listening to Dark Becomes Light with Me Heidi 559 00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 1: Hollis and the iHeart Radio and Coast to Coast, a 560 00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: m paranormal podcast network. Just for the break, I was 561 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:42,400 Speaker 1: sharing a personal story h going off planet. Not my 562 00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,759 Speaker 1: only memory, by the way, going off Planet. It's just 563 00:38:46,640 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 1: one of the more interesting ones that lets me know. 564 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:54,400 Speaker 1: I have spoke of remembering before I was born, without 565 00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: hypnosis or anything like that. And uh, after agreeing to 566 00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,160 Speaker 1: be born here and go going to be trained and 567 00:39:01,239 --> 00:39:06,319 Speaker 1: taught new things, and the training is ongoing. It I 568 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 1: know it sounds like I know, it's like what. Um. Yeah, 569 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: So I have the really strange things that happened, But 570 00:39:15,360 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 1: for me, they don't feel strange because it's something that's 571 00:39:17,560 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 1: happened for as long as I can remember. As a kid, 572 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,480 Speaker 1: I remembered going and seeing different things and learning new 573 00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,319 Speaker 1: things and going Ah. So that's how it is. And 574 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:31,600 Speaker 1: I wrote a book called Picture Prayers based on a 575 00:39:31,760 --> 00:39:36,720 Speaker 1: lesson on how angels pray. They showed me how they pray, 576 00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,520 Speaker 1: and I've been praying that way ever since. And now 577 00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: it's not like I take time off for prayer because 578 00:39:41,880 --> 00:39:45,760 Speaker 1: prayer happens all the time, and um, it's very visual. 579 00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:48,640 Speaker 1: It's all day long, and it's now become more of 580 00:39:48,640 --> 00:39:53,200 Speaker 1: a conversation. So it's uh, there's a lot to say 581 00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:58,680 Speaker 1: in uh people's experiences when it comes to out of 582 00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:05,479 Speaker 1: body extraterrestrial Um, all sorts of different scenarios that come 583 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:08,000 Speaker 1: out to a person. I mean, it's hard to put 584 00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,719 Speaker 1: it into words, and I do my best. I mean, 585 00:40:09,800 --> 00:40:12,080 Speaker 1: I keep writing so many different types of books like 586 00:40:12,360 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: maybe this angle will help paint a picture about what 587 00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,560 Speaker 1: this was like, or how this can help another person 588 00:40:18,600 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 1: and let them know that they're not alone. Um, there's 589 00:40:21,080 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: so much, so much, so um. But anyways, I want 590 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,520 Speaker 1: to jump on over here to this last email. All right, 591 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:32,920 Speaker 1: this comes to me from Dana. Dear Heidi, that's me. 592 00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:38,319 Speaker 1: Has anyone talked about hat man with playing cards and 593 00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:42,640 Speaker 1: him trying to get them to play with them? My 594 00:40:42,680 --> 00:40:45,279 Speaker 1: eleven year old has experienced this and I need to 595 00:40:45,360 --> 00:40:49,800 Speaker 1: know what it means. We both see loads of weird 596 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:58,120 Speaker 1: things people, monsters, animals and shadows. Thanks for any insight, Dana. Wow. 597 00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:03,960 Speaker 1: Um yeah, Dana, that's disturbing. UM. Oh, how can I say? 598 00:41:04,080 --> 00:41:07,480 Speaker 1: All right, so when you go to engage in a game, 599 00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,399 Speaker 1: right and you go to another person, Hey, you wanna 600 00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:15,840 Speaker 1: you wanna do this? There's a yeah, sure right, there's 601 00:41:15,880 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 1: like this little admission of yeah, I'll participate, I'll partake 602 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:23,239 Speaker 1: and what you're doing over there? Uh, and it's and 603 00:41:23,280 --> 00:41:27,200 Speaker 1: it's a it's a welcoming. It's a welcoming and it 604 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:31,880 Speaker 1: sounds like, come on, that was just an innocent game, right, No, 605 00:41:32,680 --> 00:41:35,120 Speaker 1: not for him, you know not. You're talking about hat 606 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:38,839 Speaker 1: man who cheats at every game he ever plays. All right, Um, 607 00:41:39,080 --> 00:41:42,719 Speaker 1: so this welcoming thing is welcoming scenario and trying to 608 00:41:42,800 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: let a kid let their guard down by playing a 609 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,520 Speaker 1: game cards of course, you know, like that's ah, he 610 00:41:50,560 --> 00:41:53,520 Speaker 1: should have pulled out a video game console or something. 611 00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: I mean, that's more up to date, isn't it. But yeah, 612 00:41:57,160 --> 00:41:59,239 Speaker 1: he'll do anything. It's kind of like, hey, you want 613 00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:03,239 Speaker 1: some candy? Kid? It sounds horrible, right and you think 614 00:42:03,239 --> 00:42:07,880 Speaker 1: about that, a man offering candy to your child. You're like, 615 00:42:07,920 --> 00:42:11,920 Speaker 1: whoa red flag? Red flag? But a game? You know, 616 00:42:11,960 --> 00:42:14,480 Speaker 1: help me find my dog? Remember the serial killers that 617 00:42:14,520 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 1: we use that one. Um, so many different things. It's like, oh, 618 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:19,880 Speaker 1: I hurt my arm, can you help me put my 619 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:23,840 Speaker 1: groceries in the car? That's another serial killer move. There 620 00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:29,800 Speaker 1: are so many things that pull at a person this invitation, um, 621 00:42:29,840 --> 00:42:32,440 Speaker 1: you know, and sometimes pulls on your kindness like well 622 00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:34,759 Speaker 1: I don't want them to play alone. Of course, yeah 623 00:42:34,800 --> 00:42:37,000 Speaker 1: I'll do it. And you're like, though, you're a big, black, 624 00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: shadowy creature with a with a hat on. Um, it's 625 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,640 Speaker 1: it's crazy, right, it's crazy. But kids, kids have a 626 00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:52,120 Speaker 1: different perspective and they have this this heart in them 627 00:42:52,160 --> 00:42:54,359 Speaker 1: that's just like, oh, you know, I want to help 628 00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:56,439 Speaker 1: or I want to be there, and yeah i'll play, 629 00:42:56,480 --> 00:42:59,440 Speaker 1: and of course playing is fun. And it's so much 630 00:43:00,040 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: that is packed into his little offer, which is a 631 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:06,680 Speaker 1: big offer to let your guard down and to engage 632 00:43:06,760 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 1: with him so he'd get to know you, so he 633 00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:14,240 Speaker 1: could touch, so he can do and pull. Okay, so um, yeah, 634 00:43:14,360 --> 00:43:17,319 Speaker 1: I've heard of him offer hugs, give me a hug, 635 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,360 Speaker 1: or do you need a hug, give you a hug, 636 00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:22,839 Speaker 1: or hey, i'll calm your fears here, I'll hit your 637 00:43:22,880 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 1: abusive dad. He does these things and uh, you know, 638 00:43:27,800 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: it's it's not a good invitation to have, and hopefully 639 00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:37,960 Speaker 1: please tell your kid just say no every time, all 640 00:43:37,960 --> 00:43:41,080 Speaker 1: the time when it comes to anything hat Man is 641 00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:45,479 Speaker 1: trying to throw at a kid or anybody all right, Um, 642 00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,600 Speaker 1: interesting enough. You mentioned something here that's really it falls 643 00:43:49,600 --> 00:43:52,799 Speaker 1: into another pattern. Guys checked us out. We both see 644 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:56,560 Speaker 1: loads of weird things people, monsters, animals, and shadows. Okay, 645 00:43:56,600 --> 00:44:01,040 Speaker 1: so hat man goes after people who are gifted. Hat 646 00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:03,839 Speaker 1: man goes after people who are gifted. Hat man goes 647 00:44:03,840 --> 00:44:08,319 Speaker 1: after people who can see other things? And why is that? 648 00:44:09,960 --> 00:44:15,480 Speaker 1: Mankind is evolving? All right? We are. We're evolving, and 649 00:44:15,480 --> 00:44:17,239 Speaker 1: we're a mixture of a whole bunch of stuff in 650 00:44:17,280 --> 00:44:22,359 Speaker 1: the galaxy, and we have these senses that I think 651 00:44:22,400 --> 00:44:27,680 Speaker 1: have been dumbed down. Some people say from fluoride. Others say, uh, 652 00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:31,880 Speaker 1: from us doubting and questioning ourselves. If we experience something 653 00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:33,879 Speaker 1: and you get thrown in the looney bin and then 654 00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 1: given drugs to forget what's going on. Okay, I think 655 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 1: this is all possible, But I always tell people, you know, 656 00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm not a doctor, Go to a doctor. Do what's 657 00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:48,759 Speaker 1: right for yourself. This is my opinion, because I do 658 00:44:48,840 --> 00:44:52,319 Speaker 1: believe that there are people who are definitely experiencing things 659 00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,640 Speaker 1: that are made to block it. And and when those 660 00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:59,359 Speaker 1: blocks are created, whether um you know, by one means 661 00:44:59,480 --> 00:45:04,279 Speaker 1: or another, we're limiting our knowledge base. And you know 662 00:45:04,480 --> 00:45:09,480 Speaker 1: how how beautiful and open our ancient forefathers were right, 663 00:45:09,719 --> 00:45:14,360 Speaker 1: or they could see something and tell a story about 664 00:45:14,360 --> 00:45:19,040 Speaker 1: it that could carry on for for generations. I experienced this, 665 00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:23,279 Speaker 1: how wonderful. We believe you, grandfather, and and and we'll 666 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:26,640 Speaker 1: pull this in too, our our generational story, and we'll 667 00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:30,840 Speaker 1: pass down that knowledge they allowed themselves to explore and 668 00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:36,320 Speaker 1: see and believe. Now we scrutinize, well, we've got technology 669 00:45:36,320 --> 00:45:38,320 Speaker 1: to make something look like that, or what kind of 670 00:45:38,400 --> 00:45:40,319 Speaker 1: drugs are you taking that you saw something like that? 671 00:45:40,440 --> 00:45:43,200 Speaker 1: Because I don't see that. And so it's like if 672 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,160 Speaker 1: somebody doesn't see that, it's not real. Or if a 673 00:45:45,200 --> 00:45:48,760 Speaker 1: scientist doesn't say it doesn't happen, or it's not possible, 674 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:53,480 Speaker 1: it's not real. And we are left with these big, 675 00:45:53,520 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 1: gaping holes in our lives. When some of us do 676 00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,359 Speaker 1: experience these things and we're brave enough to talk about it. 677 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,560 Speaker 1: You hear me, brave enough to talk about it, and 678 00:46:03,560 --> 00:46:05,279 Speaker 1: people like, oh, we're just trying to make a buck. 679 00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:08,640 Speaker 1: They say that to me too with my books. Okay, 680 00:46:08,880 --> 00:46:12,280 Speaker 1: it's like, uh, if you're so trying to help mankind, 681 00:46:12,360 --> 00:46:15,600 Speaker 1: give it out for free, well, you know, cleaning up 682 00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,239 Speaker 1: streets as as a great thing to be doing for 683 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:21,200 Speaker 1: people should do that for free to you know, it's 684 00:46:21,280 --> 00:46:27,719 Speaker 1: not easy to do all of this free. And I've 685 00:46:27,760 --> 00:46:32,120 Speaker 1: given away thousands of books, okay, and done so much 686 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,920 Speaker 1: and answer all my emails myself and uh answer people 687 00:46:35,960 --> 00:46:40,160 Speaker 1: reaching out to me. We are all trying, and we're 688 00:46:40,160 --> 00:46:43,479 Speaker 1: doing this out of passion more than anything. So when 689 00:46:43,520 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: people step forward nine times out of ten, it's not 690 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:51,000 Speaker 1: to get glorified. It is to you know, vent first, 691 00:46:51,560 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 1: learn and hopefully try to help other people. So that's 692 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,479 Speaker 1: where a lot of us come from. We get those 693 00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:01,319 Speaker 1: people who have never experience is anything themselves and like 694 00:47:01,440 --> 00:47:04,560 Speaker 1: I am the expert, and I'm going to tell you 695 00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: what you're experiencing because I have been collecting data or 696 00:47:08,600 --> 00:47:14,520 Speaker 1: data and whatever. Um. You know, it's it's a it's 697 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,280 Speaker 1: a little bit dismaying, right, you know, it's like, gosh, 698 00:47:17,480 --> 00:47:19,600 Speaker 1: you know, I like being able to relate to others 699 00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:25,319 Speaker 1: who have experienced things and believe it and not put 700 00:47:25,320 --> 00:47:27,239 Speaker 1: it through a filter all the time. Sometimes we just 701 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:29,759 Speaker 1: got to lend an ear and a heart to the 702 00:47:29,800 --> 00:47:34,280 Speaker 1: conversation and no know that there's a lot of suffering 703 00:47:34,320 --> 00:47:36,560 Speaker 1: going on out there. Because a lot of people were 704 00:47:36,600 --> 00:47:42,400 Speaker 1: not believed or they were not um yeah, reported through 705 00:47:42,520 --> 00:47:46,919 Speaker 1: in in in the public eye, like to the government. Right, Oh, 706 00:47:47,080 --> 00:47:49,040 Speaker 1: don't get me started to get with that one, because 707 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,879 Speaker 1: that's a sore spot. I know many of people who 708 00:47:53,040 --> 00:47:58,080 Speaker 1: just did not live a complete life because they were 709 00:47:58,120 --> 00:48:00,600 Speaker 1: stuck in the loop to try to prove and get 710 00:48:00,600 --> 00:48:04,480 Speaker 1: that little piece of evidence to show the UFOs have 711 00:48:04,560 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 1: done this to me and my family. I got radiation burns, 712 00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,400 Speaker 1: I got sick this, this and that, whatever it is. 713 00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,040 Speaker 1: I had a kid. They took the kid. You know, 714 00:48:13,120 --> 00:48:17,439 Speaker 1: they abused me, and the powers that be sat there 715 00:48:17,440 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: and we're hiding this information. What they knew, they've been 716 00:48:22,080 --> 00:48:24,640 Speaker 1: hiding it. We do this, We've been talking about this, 717 00:48:25,520 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 1: but you know, for the most part, people don't believe 718 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,279 Speaker 1: it unless it's official. Right, We're not gonna take the 719 00:48:31,320 --> 00:48:34,160 Speaker 1: word of that person that says they've been abused. Nah, 720 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:38,120 Speaker 1: they're not gonna go there. So it's um, it's a shame. 721 00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:41,640 Speaker 1: So as we evolved, getting back to this email, there 722 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:44,440 Speaker 1: will be people like Dana here and her son who 723 00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:50,520 Speaker 1: have experienced so many things, so many things, and you 724 00:48:50,560 --> 00:48:53,359 Speaker 1: stand out and hat Man sees it, so he wants 725 00:48:53,400 --> 00:48:55,320 Speaker 1: to block that and he wants to own it. Because 726 00:48:55,400 --> 00:48:59,040 Speaker 1: if you evolve and you are warning others around you, 727 00:48:59,160 --> 00:49:02,000 Speaker 1: hey there's something behind and you, Hey this is going on. Hey, 728 00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,120 Speaker 1: I see this other world on top of this world. 729 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:09,799 Speaker 1: We can be better prepared, we can grow. We're not 730 00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:14,279 Speaker 1: dubbed as being mentally ill, you know, and captain in 731 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: this captive space of you. Don't go anywhere with this. 732 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 1: You know that's just doubt yourself. Okay, sleep better. Here, 733 00:49:21,760 --> 00:49:24,439 Speaker 1: here's something to help you sleep better. We have got 734 00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,080 Speaker 1: to own the skills that come to us. And you 735 00:49:27,120 --> 00:49:28,759 Speaker 1: know I have join your hired about it. You don't 736 00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:32,600 Speaker 1: have to be fearful about it always. So I hope 737 00:49:32,640 --> 00:49:34,719 Speaker 1: that this was helpful for everybody. It's helpful for me 738 00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:37,800 Speaker 1: to talk this stuff out or all working this out together. 739 00:49:38,200 --> 00:49:40,160 Speaker 1: So anyways, I want to remind you guys, go to 740 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:43,880 Speaker 1: my main website, which is Heidi Hollis dot com or 741 00:49:43,960 --> 00:49:46,640 Speaker 1: go to shadow Folks dot com and tell me what's 742 00:49:46,640 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 1: on your mind, send your questions, send your suggestions, anything 743 00:49:50,800 --> 00:49:54,359 Speaker 1: in all of the bob, because I am trying to 744 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,960 Speaker 1: piece together this puzzle with you, all right, So you 745 00:49:58,000 --> 00:50:00,719 Speaker 1: know what I'm just I'm just blown away with this 746 00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:05,120 Speaker 1: cash of emails. I love the diversity, and I love 747 00:50:05,160 --> 00:50:07,279 Speaker 1: that you guys keep sending them, and I'm going to 748 00:50:07,440 --> 00:50:09,640 Speaker 1: keep on sharing them as we come along and again, 749 00:50:09,680 --> 00:50:10,919 Speaker 1: if you want to be a guest on the show 750 00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,240 Speaker 1: to share your story, also write me through my website 751 00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:16,319 Speaker 1: h E I D I H O L L I 752 00:50:16,520 --> 00:50:19,120 Speaker 1: S dot com. All right, you have been listening to 753 00:50:19,640 --> 00:50:23,239 Speaker 1: Dark Becomes Light with me, Heidi Hollis on the I 754 00:50:23,360 --> 00:50:28,800 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a AM paranormal podcast Network. 755 00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:44,399 Speaker 1: We'll see you next time. Stay safe, everybody, goodbye. Well, 756 00:50:44,440 --> 00:50:47,359 Speaker 1: if you liked this edition of Dark Becomes Light, wait 757 00:50:47,440 --> 00:50:49,960 Speaker 1: until you hear the next one. You've been listening to 758 00:50:50,000 --> 00:50:52,600 Speaker 1: the I Heart Radio and Coast to Coast, a m 759 00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 1: paranormal podcast Network.