WEBVTT - Weirdhouse Cinema: Shogun Assassin

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Stuff to Blow your Mind, a production of iHeartRadio.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, welcome to Weird House Cinema.

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<v Speaker 3>This is Rob Lamb and I am Joe McCormick, and

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<v Speaker 3>today we're going to be talking about a film from

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<v Speaker 3>the year nineteen eighty, the blood drenched samurai film Shogun Assassin. Rob,

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<v Speaker 3>this was your pick. How did you get to Shogun Assassin?

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<v Speaker 4>Oh?

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<v Speaker 2>Wow? Mainly because I had subscribed to Criterion Channel in

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<v Speaker 2>order to watch Face behind the Mask for a previous episode,

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<v Speaker 2>and they have all these little collections in their little

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<v Speaker 2>playlists of movies to check out, and they had one

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<v Speaker 2>that was just called synth Scores. So of course I

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<v Speaker 2>had to dive in and see what kind of movies

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<v Speaker 2>they had included there. And they included one film that

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<v Speaker 2>I had heard of but I'd never seen, and that's

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<v Speaker 2>Shogun Assassin. And so I started playing it like I

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<v Speaker 2>think I was eating lunch by myself at the time,

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<v Speaker 2>and it was one of those films where before I

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<v Speaker 2>knew what had happened, I'd watched most of the film,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like I had other things I really needed

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<v Speaker 2>to do that day, but I was already like sucked

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<v Speaker 2>into it. It's just if you've never seen it. I

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<v Speaker 2>highly recommend diving in as well, because I think it

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<v Speaker 2>will captivate most people who watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>It is incredible in many ways, and I can see

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<v Speaker 3>why it would be classified primarily in terms of its soundtrack,

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<v Speaker 3>because the music in this movie just it washes over

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<v Speaker 3>you like a like a dark rainbow. It's just unbelievable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'm really excited to talk about it here today.

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<v Speaker 2>I made sure to open up a can of my

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<v Speaker 2>Sun Tory Boss coffee here. I'll show it to you. Hear,

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<v Speaker 2>Joe did not buy it from a convenience machine on

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<v Speaker 2>the streets of Japan. This one is just from Super

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<v Speaker 2>h Mart. But they're not sponsoring this episode, by the way,

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<v Speaker 2>But I will be drinking my Sun Tory Boss coffee.

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<v Speaker 3>Wait, what is that coffee or is it some kind

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<v Speaker 3>of coffee?

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<v Speaker 2>Plus, it's just a coffee. It's inexpensive, like colbrew black

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<v Speaker 2>coffee in a can, nice with a fun ly logo

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<v Speaker 2>on it.

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<v Speaker 3>I have to try that one sometime. But oh so,

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<v Speaker 3>Chogun Assassin is a movie that I think we've done

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<v Speaker 3>films of this kind before, though I can't think at

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<v Speaker 3>the moment what they were but this is a movie

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<v Speaker 3>that is not an original artistic product, but rather is

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<v Speaker 3>made out of other products that already existed.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, we've talked about pictures on the show before that

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<v Speaker 2>exist in different, sometimes drastically different cuts. We recently did

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<v Speaker 2>that with Reptilicus. But yeah, today's episode is an extreme

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<v Speaker 2>case of something like this. Nineteen eighties Shogun Assassin is

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<v Speaker 2>a Western film release edited together from the first two

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<v Speaker 2>films in the famous Japanese Lone Wolf and Cub series,

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<v Speaker 2>those two films being both nineteen seventy two releases, Lone

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<v Speaker 2>Wolf and Cubs sort Of Vengeance the first of six films,

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<v Speaker 2>and Lone Wolf and Cub Baby cart at the River Styx,

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<v Speaker 2>the second of six films. Warning that you know a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of these film titles. The translation is maybe a

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<v Speaker 2>little rough, but that's part of its time. So essentially,

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<v Speaker 2>the American filmmakers involved here set out to take the

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<v Speaker 2>best parts from these two films and stitch them together

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<v Speaker 2>into a single coherent narrative featuring, you know, the best action,

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<v Speaker 2>the coolest visuals, and all of this built around a

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<v Speaker 2>rather simplified plot. I'll describe the ways that they simplified

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<v Speaker 2>the plots a little bit as we proceed, but in

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<v Speaker 2>essence they're just repackaging these two films for the grindhouse market.

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<v Speaker 3>I would say this movie is very loosely plotted. You

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<v Speaker 3>barely need to follow what's going on with the plot

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<v Speaker 3>or the machinations. It is more like a demo reel

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<v Speaker 3>of sights and sounds, and those sites are samurai action

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<v Speaker 3>with blood jets squirting, and the sounds are the dark

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<v Speaker 3>scinthed stylings of our composers who will get to later. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the plot is greatly reduced here, but in a way,

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<v Speaker 2>it also makes it super fun to then dive into

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<v Speaker 2>the full cuts of those first two Lone Wolf and

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<v Speaker 2>Cub films, which is exactly what I did after watching

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<v Speaker 2>Showgun Assassin. All of the Lone Wolf and Cub films

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<v Speaker 2>are available on a Criterion channel as well as of

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<v Speaker 2>this recording.

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<v Speaker 3>But I'm curious how significantly different is the mood.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the mood is pretty much the same, And

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<v Speaker 2>I think that's the really glorious thing about Shogun Assassin

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<v Speaker 2>is that it's easy to imagine all the ways that

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<v Speaker 2>a project like this could go spectacularly wrong, the way

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<v Speaker 2>that it could be disrespectful to the original pictures, but

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<v Speaker 2>I do think that the essential vibe is there. So

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<v Speaker 2>if you go from Showgun Assassin and you're like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I would like more of this, well, the Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 2>and Cub series is more of this, you know, because

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<v Speaker 2>it is, you know, the full plot, the full character

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<v Speaker 2>development of everything that is in Showgun Assassin that you love,

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<v Speaker 2>except for the score, a different score, but still effective

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<v Speaker 2>scores in the original pictures.

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<v Speaker 3>So regarding not the original films but Showgun Assassin specifically,

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<v Speaker 3>I've read this movie is esthetic described in terms like

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<v Speaker 3>poetic exploitation violence, and I think that's a good way

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<v Speaker 3>to put it, because this movie feels like it has

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<v Speaker 3>two souls at once. It is at once a work

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<v Speaker 3>of art and a piece of trashy grindhouse gore. So

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<v Speaker 3>on one hand, there really is a kind of poignant,

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<v Speaker 3>almost literary quality to the way details are observed in

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of scenes. Just one scene of many that

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<v Speaker 3>comes to mind is when the young boy is trying

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<v Speaker 3>to bring water from the river to his badly wounded father,

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<v Speaker 3>and he's trying to carry it in his hands and

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<v Speaker 3>it keeps leaking out between his fingers, so he eventually

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<v Speaker 3>carries the water in his mouth to his father. I mean,

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<v Speaker 3>it's like a almost kind of beauty, full novelistic detail,

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<v Speaker 3>and also in terms of style, there is a quite

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<v Speaker 3>exquisite vision at play with the composition of the shots

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<v Speaker 3>and very again memorable details, strong misancen. But at the

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<v Speaker 3>same time, there is a campy Tom Savini Friday the

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<v Speaker 3>Thirteenth sensibility operating in quite high gear in most of

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<v Speaker 3>the action scenes, with like a real desire to just

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<v Speaker 3>see blood squirting and to get the camera all up

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<v Speaker 3>in the ridiculous wounds, the cloven heads and all that.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's an interesting combination. It's like some some gore

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<v Speaker 3>geek exploitation trash and a thoughtful, meditative historical art film

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<v Speaker 3>about a samurai father and son were merged into one entity.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like the arterial sprays and there are quite a

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<v Speaker 2>few of them, will make your jaw drop and exclaim aloud.

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<v Speaker 2>But at the same time, yeah, there are such beautifully

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<v Speaker 2>poetic scenes in this picture, Like I cried, I teared

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<v Speaker 2>up at times, you know, I shed tears just to

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<v Speaker 2>showgun assassin. So it is both things at once. I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's a great.

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<v Speaker 3>Point, especially with the music. The music is a Digros theme,

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<v Speaker 3>especially that one was it was making me a little misty.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that is a strong track. We'll come back of

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<v Speaker 2>that one for sure.

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<v Speaker 3>Now.

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<v Speaker 2>One thing I promise not to do in this episode

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<v Speaker 2>is to painstakingly talk about all the differences between Showgun

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<v Speaker 2>Assassin and the first two Lone Wolf and Cub movies.

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<v Speaker 2>We'll come back to some of these details in a bit,

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<v Speaker 2>but just in broad strokes, I do want to mention

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<v Speaker 2>that clips from the first film, sort of Vengeance, apparently

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<v Speaker 2>amount to only like twelve minutes of Shogun Assassin, mostly

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<v Speaker 2>dealing with the backstory of Lone Wolf and Cup of

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<v Speaker 2>our Ronan character and the child.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh well, but that's a lot of what the movie is.

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<v Speaker 3>I would bet that when people watch this movie and

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<v Speaker 3>then think back and reminisce about it, the primary thing

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<v Speaker 3>they probably remember is the feeling created by the opening

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<v Speaker 3>five minutes or so. Not that the rest of the

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<v Speaker 3>movie isn't good, but that is the feeling of this

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<v Speaker 3>movie is really established strongly at the beginning, again powerfully moody,

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<v Speaker 3>with this strong synth bass melody that plays under Diegoro's

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<v Speaker 3>the Child, the Child's narration as he describes the backstory,

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<v Speaker 3>and we see these scenes very rapidly cut together. They

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<v Speaker 3>condense a lot of story into not much space. But

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<v Speaker 3>it's quite effective in my opinion.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that narration by the child is quite excellent, and

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<v Speaker 2>that is something that is original to Shogun Assassin. There

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<v Speaker 2>is not something like that in the Lone Wolf and

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<v Speaker 2>Cub movies. We don't really have his insight or reflection

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<v Speaker 2>on what happens here.

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<v Speaker 3>Though his narration continues throughout this movie. I mean like

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<v Speaker 3>he gets to tell us how, you know. We see

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<v Speaker 3>them pushing the cart through the jungle and they look

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<v Speaker 3>around and see monkeys screaming at them, and the kid says,

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<v Speaker 3>this is how I get my education.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so I'll come back to some of the details

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<v Speaker 2>about the differences, at least the ones that are really

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<v Speaker 2>key to understanding what's happening in the picture or why

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<v Speaker 2>things are, you know, proceding the way they are. But yeah, basically,

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<v Speaker 2>though more time is spent with the characters, of course,

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<v Speaker 2>more time is spent with the politics and the background.

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<v Speaker 2>More time is spent laying out the duties that ogami

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<v Speaker 2>Eto has. That's our main character, the Showgun's executioner. In fact,

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<v Speaker 2>the first ten minutes or so the first Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 2>and Cub movie is just ogami Eto about to execute

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<v Speaker 2>a young lord, like a child that is the same

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<v Speaker 2>age as his own son, on the orders of the Showgun.

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<v Speaker 2>This is of course the sort of thing that if

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<v Speaker 2>you are a recent viewer of the excellent Hulu FX

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<v Speaker 2>mini series Showgun, which is of course more historically based

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<v Speaker 2>perhaps in some ways than Showgun Assassin, you'll be familiar

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<v Speaker 2>with this sort of thing. But it does just a

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<v Speaker 2>great job in the original picture, just laying out like

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<v Speaker 2>this is the kind of work he has to do,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he has to do bloody deets for the

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<v Speaker 2>Showgun out of a sense of honor and duty, and

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<v Speaker 2>at night he prays for the souls of those that

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<v Speaker 2>he has killed. And then finally, I should also mention

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<v Speaker 2>that both of these films had also already been released

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<v Speaker 2>in the US by Toho with subtitles, so it's interesting

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<v Speaker 2>to think about that as well. This is not It's

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<v Speaker 2>not like Shogun Assassin was the absolute first time US

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<v Speaker 2>audience has had a chance to see these films. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>at least some moviegoers out there already were familiar with them.

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<v Speaker 2>But this was kind of like a you know, a

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<v Speaker 2>redistribution or repackaging of these films for a new audience,

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<v Speaker 2>and it certainly seemed to have found its audience.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, that makes me think, what is your understanding

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<v Speaker 3>of the original reception history of this movie. Was it

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<v Speaker 3>literally like a you know, midnight movie grindhouse kind of

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<v Speaker 3>kind of thing.

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<v Speaker 2>That's my understanding. This was like a grindhouse sensation, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>in which the expectations for cinema were you know, at

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<v Speaker 2>the extreme. People were tuning in to see those brilliant

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<v Speaker 2>arterial sprays, the violence and some of the psychedelic sequences,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. But and and it's through this that Shogun

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<v Speaker 2>Assassin ended up really resonating with various various folks, everyone

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<v Speaker 2>from like you know, Quentin Tarantino, members of Wu Tang

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<v Speaker 2>clan and so forth. There's a lot here that's been

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<v Speaker 2>sampled elsewhere and so forth. So I think it it

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<v Speaker 2>also does a great job of just you know, introducing

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<v Speaker 2>the world of Lone Wolf and cub to a different audience,

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<v Speaker 2>a wider audience, if you will.

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<v Speaker 3>You can think of it kind of like one of

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<v Speaker 3>those sitcom episodes where they do a clip show from

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<v Speaker 3>the other episodes, but here it's it's a clip show

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<v Speaker 3>of Lone Wolf and Cub, so you get a you

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<v Speaker 3>get a flavor of the different adventures.

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<v Speaker 2>It's hard to imagine another project doing something like this, though,

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<v Speaker 2>Like can you imagine taking say Predator one in Predator

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<v Speaker 2>two and then editing them together into one film.

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<v Speaker 3>It would be easier if they had the same main character.

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<v Speaker 2>But yeah, I guess. Or how about Godfather one and

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<v Speaker 2>two edited into a single ninety minute film? Call it

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<v Speaker 2>Mafia Assassin.

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<v Speaker 3>Brilliant? I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>That's maybe more app because in an effort like you

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<v Speaker 2>would have to like boil out, you know, reduce it

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<v Speaker 2>and remove all of most of the politics and get

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<v Speaker 2>down to just like an ultra simplified like you know, plot,

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<v Speaker 2>which is what we have in Shogun Assassin. Well, on

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<v Speaker 2>that note, why don't we go ahead and listen to

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<v Speaker 2>a little trailer audio. This is from the This is

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<v Speaker 2>the trailer to be clear, to Shogun Assassin, not the

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<v Speaker 2>original Lone Wolf and Cub films. We're not going to

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<v Speaker 2>listen to all of it because it is it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of long, but I want to make sure we get

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<v Speaker 2>a little bit of that music and of course, the

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<v Speaker 2>nearer saying the title of the picture.

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<v Speaker 4>Return to the vanished kingdoms of ancient times, the journey

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<v Speaker 4>through a lost empire of man, wizards, wish and barbaric passions.

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<v Speaker 5>Behold the saga of a legendary warrior, a loving father

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<v Speaker 5>who has the power of a dozen armies in one.

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<v Speaker 4>Sweep of his mystic blade.

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<v Speaker 6>This is a story of honor, disgrace, vengeance, massacre.

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<v Speaker 5>A man who became a demon Shogun Assassin.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, so, if you would like to watch Shogun

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<v Speaker 2>Assassin and perhaps all six Lone Wolf and Cub films,

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<v Speaker 2>it's all currently streaming on the Criterion channel. I've been

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<v Speaker 2>really digging this resource recently. There's also a great looking

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<v Speaker 2>Criterion collection box set of the six films. Showgun Assassin

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<v Speaker 2>itself has been released on Blu ray and DVD, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think that one might be harder to grab right now.

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<v Speaker 2>But of course, if you have some sort of rental

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<v Speaker 2>service at your disposal, be it Videodrome here in Atlanta,

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<v Speaker 2>whatever your local video rental option is, or even maybe

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<v Speaker 2>the public library, as a listener brought up in the

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<v Speaker 2>recent Listener Mail episode, Yeah, don't discount your public library

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<v Speaker 2>they might have some Showgun Assassin waiting for you. All right, Well,

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<v Speaker 2>let's talk about some of the people involved here before

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<v Speaker 2>we get into the plot and so forth. So again,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a nineteen eighty film release composed edited together

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<v Speaker 2>from two nineteen seventy two films. We can't do justice

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<v Speaker 2>to all the folks involved in these different projects, so

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<v Speaker 2>I want to mostly single out some of the key

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<v Speaker 2>folks from the first two Lone Wolf and Cub films,

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<v Speaker 2>as well as key people responsible for the Showgun Assassin cut. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>all right, So starting I think at the top where

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<v Speaker 2>where credit is deserved. The director of both Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 2>and Cub films one and two this is Kenji Masumi,

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<v Speaker 2>who lived nineteen twenty one through nineteen seventy five. Very

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<v Speaker 2>well regarded Japanese film director, best known certainly internationally for

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<v Speaker 2>his work on four of the six Lone Wolf and

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<v Speaker 2>Cub films that's one, two, three, and five, as well

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<v Speaker 2>as his Zatouichi films. His other movies also include nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>seventy two's Hanzo the Razor, Sword of Justice and nineteen

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<v Speaker 2>sixty six's Return of Damigen. This is a Tokusatsu film

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<v Speaker 2>about a giant demon god. I haven't seen these films,

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<v Speaker 2>but this was the second in a series that had

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<v Speaker 2>started earlier that same year. Like a big statue type dude.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, like a giant statue of a samurai warrior.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, with a scowl on his face and so forth.

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<v Speaker 3>See screenshots of one scene where he appears to be

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<v Speaker 3>walking through a parted see ooh, I don't know. I'll

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<v Speaker 3>have to flag this one. Come back to it, all right.

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<v Speaker 2>We also have to credit the creators of Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 2>and Cub, two individuals worth singling out here. The first

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<v Speaker 2>as Kazuo Kooki, who lived nineteen thirty six through twenty nineteen,

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<v Speaker 2>writer creator of He's the legendary Japanese manga writer, novelist, screenwriter, lyricist,

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<v Speaker 2>and entrepreneur apparently best known for co creating the Lone

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<v Speaker 2>Wolf and Cub series, not only writing it but also

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<v Speaker 2>adapting it for the screen. In both of these the

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<v Speaker 2>pictures that are used to create Shogun Assassin. He'd continued

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<v Speaker 2>to do this with numerous other works of his that

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<v Speaker 2>were adapted to the screen, including nineteen seventy two's Hanzo

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<v Speaker 2>the Razor. He also wrote a Wolverine story for Marvel.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think it's from two thousand and three

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<v Speaker 2>X Men Unlimited Volume one, issue fifty and he is

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<v Speaker 2>a member of the Eisner Hall of Fame. And then

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<v Speaker 2>the artists that were the manga artists that worked with

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<v Speaker 2>him on this was Goseki Kojima, who lived nineteen twenty

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<v Speaker 2>eight through two thousand. Yeah, he worked with him on

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<v Speaker 2>the Lone Wolf and Cub film, so very much a

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<v Speaker 2>part of the original alchemy of bringing this idea of

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<v Speaker 2>life on the page. All right, now, turning to the

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<v Speaker 2>folks heading up Showgun Assassin, we have we have a

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<v Speaker 2>Shogun Assassin director and writer Robert Houston born nineteen fifty five.

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<v Speaker 2>So this individual is an Academy Award winning director for

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<v Speaker 2>a two thousand and four short form documentary titled Mighty

0:18:20.119 --> 0:18:23.080
<v Speaker 2>Times The Children's March. This was produced by HBO and

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<v Speaker 2>the Southern Poverty Loss and are dealing with the Birmingham,

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<v Speaker 2>Alabama civil rights Marches of the nineteen sixties. Long before this, though,

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<v Speaker 2>he played Bobby in Wes Craven's nineteen seventy seven Mutant

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<v Speaker 2>Mayhem movie The Hills Have Eyes. What I included it

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<v Speaker 2>a still for you here Joe's If anyone remembers, he's

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<v Speaker 2>the blonde kid in the T shirt. Okay, yeah, that's him.

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<v Speaker 2>That's our director.

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<v Speaker 3>Wow, Pads crossing, I had no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. He appeared in a handful of late seventies and

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<v Speaker 2>early eighties pictures before heading up the Showgun Assassin project

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<v Speaker 2>for producer David Weisman, which would ultimately be released by

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<v Speaker 2>Roger Korman's New World Pictures. His subsequent directorial and writing

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<v Speaker 2>credits include an array of thrillers, erotica, an episode of

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<v Speaker 2>Doogie Howser MD, and of course, Academy Award winning documentary

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<v Speaker 2>shorts How Strange. Yeah, all right, now. David Weisman, who

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<v Speaker 2>had just mentioned he is credited with as a writer

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<v Speaker 2>and a producer on this. He lived nineteen forty two

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<v Speaker 2>through twenty nineteen. He was apparently part of a splinter

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<v Speaker 2>group from Andy Warhol's factory back in the sixties, and

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<v Speaker 2>he went on to produce such films as nineteen eighty

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<v Speaker 2>five's Kiss of the Spider Woman. All right, now, getting

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<v Speaker 2>back into the original Japanese cast, the actors who bring

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<v Speaker 2>this picture to life, it's lone Wolf and cubs. So

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<v Speaker 2>let's start with Lone Wolf the character of Ogami Eto,

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<v Speaker 2>the Shoguns executioner turned ronan. He's played by Tomisaburo Wakayama,

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<v Speaker 2>and he lived nineteen twenty nine through nineteen nine two.

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<v Speaker 3>He brings a lot to this movie in that he

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<v Speaker 3>is an absolutely lethal action hero, but he does not

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know he he doesn't have a very active aura.

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<v Speaker 3>He brings a lot of stillness and patience. Do you

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<v Speaker 3>know what I'm getting at here? Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And I think it's it's something that's easy to

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<v Speaker 2>sort of not really process all the way, especially if

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<v Speaker 2>you're just watching Shogun Assassin, and maybe if you just

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<v Speaker 2>sort of have it on in the background or something.

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<v Speaker 2>But it begins to make more and more sense once

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<v Speaker 2>you really absorb the character, because you know, he he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't talk much, but it is a full body performance

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<v Speaker 2>of kind of this mix of silent honor and determination,

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<v Speaker 2>but all of it burning within this scowling husk of

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<v Speaker 2>shame and sorrow, Like he is a man who's been

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<v Speaker 2>brought low, who's been betrayed, who is marked for death,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and all these circumstances are out of his control,

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<v Speaker 2>but inwardly he's remaining true to his principles while the

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<v Speaker 2>whole world either turns their their backs on him or

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<v Speaker 2>turns their blades on him. And then when he does

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<v Speaker 2>unleash his fury, oh man, it's just this fluid artery

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<v Speaker 2>severing machinery.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the and right down to when he's finished, like

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<v Speaker 2>the fluid sheathing of his sword. You know, it's like

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<v Speaker 2>a final signature on a regal contract of death.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, his presence in the action scenes is very much

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<v Speaker 3>like a he is a machine where the valve is

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<v Speaker 3>closed and then suddenly it explodes open and there is

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<v Speaker 3>a release of activity and then it closes again.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's it's such a great performance. And when you

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<v Speaker 2>when you learn a little bit more about Wakayama, like

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<v Speaker 2>his background makes sense when you see this, because he

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<v Speaker 2>was an accomplished kabuki actor, uh and a judo practitioner

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<v Speaker 2>that you know that ended up then getting into film acting.

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<v Speaker 2>So I can you can, I can see that, like

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<v Speaker 2>that control of the body, fluid movements, and and then

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<v Speaker 2>like his his ability to use these often like just

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<v Speaker 2>smoldering facial expressions, you know, like where he's not just scowling,

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<v Speaker 2>he's not just like well, I'm gonna look like a

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<v Speaker 2>like like a badass for this scene. Like, no, there's

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<v Speaker 2>the there there's stuff going on behind the eyes and

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<v Speaker 2>you can sense it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's something more sad and also in a way

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<v Speaker 3>threatening about the kind of the blankness that he often brings.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, just just a wonderful performance, you know. He

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<v Speaker 2>he's mostly known for, you know, for for these films,

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<v Speaker 2>the Lone Wolf and Cub films. He's in all of

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<v Speaker 2>these Original Six pictures. He also had some starring roles

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<v Speaker 2>and some other Toho Martial Arts films, but outside of Japan,

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<v Speaker 2>he only ever appeared in two Western films. He pops

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<v Speaker 2>up as a coach in nineteen seventy eight's The Bad

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<v Speaker 2>News Bears Go to Japan. What, Yeah, I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>that one. But then he also has has a turn

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<v Speaker 2>as a as a key yakuza boss in Ridley Scott's

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<v Speaker 2>Black Rain from nineteen eighty nine. Now I haven't seen

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<v Speaker 2>that one either. It's, you know, one of Ridley's like

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<v Speaker 2>non sci fi fantasy film, so I've never gotten around

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<v Speaker 2>to it, but I've seen some stills. He looks like

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<v Speaker 2>he has a really smoldering presence, and I think he

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<v Speaker 2>gets to deliver a monologue that features the title of the.

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<v Speaker 3>Picture Oh Wow, nineteen eighty nine. Michael Douglas, Andy Garcia,

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<v Speaker 3>Kate Capshaw. Yeah, oh this looks worth seeing.

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<v Speaker 2>I remember seeing trailers for it as a kid and

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<v Speaker 2>thinking like, oh, it's more Blade Runner, and then I realize, oh, wait,

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<v Speaker 2>it's not Blade Runner. This takes place in the real world,

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<v Speaker 2>and then I don't watch it.

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<v Speaker 3>But hey, the poster is hilarious. I see Michael Douglas

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<v Speaker 3>there with his arms folded, like, yeah, what do you want.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's like something like an American cop must go

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<v Speaker 2>to Japan to track a Yukuza killer or something. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't know, but it may be great if you love

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<v Speaker 2>it right in and let us know.

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<v Speaker 3>All right.

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<v Speaker 2>So that's our lone wolf, our cub.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm sorry, I'm imagining Michael Douglass doing like Fish out

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<v Speaker 3>of Water scenes where he like tries sushi for the

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<v Speaker 3>first time, Like, oh, what is this?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean it was the nineteen eighties, but I hope

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<v Speaker 2>that's not what Black Rain is. But I know maybe,

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<v Speaker 2>so all right. Digoro is played by Akihiro Tamakawa born

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty eight. Child actor, cute kid, but like these

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<v Speaker 2>are pretty much his only credits. But still I cannot

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<v Speaker 2>stress enough how cute this kid is just such a

0:24:41.880 --> 0:24:46.719
<v Speaker 2>cute kid. Show any clip that features Lone Wolf and

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<v Speaker 2>Cub to anyone in your vicinity, and that will at

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<v Speaker 2>least be their one of their comments.

0:24:52.760 --> 0:24:53.240
<v Speaker 3>Cute kid.

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<v Speaker 2>A lot of spraying blood.

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<v Speaker 3>And so forth. He's even cute when he's operating like

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<v Speaker 3>the switchblade NYE in his baby carriage.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he gets to kill two. It's one of the

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<v Speaker 2>interesting details, all right. The chief antagonist of this picture

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<v Speaker 2>is this is kind of confusing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I was mighty confused by.

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<v Speaker 2>This because when you watch Shogun Assassin, they talk a

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<v Speaker 2>lot about the Showgun, and they present the Showgun is

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<v Speaker 2>kind of like this evil, paranoid, corrupted ruler who is

0:25:31.359 --> 0:25:35.760
<v Speaker 2>just exacting his vengeance and paranoia on the entire nation.

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<v Speaker 2>Like that's very much three and that's you know, ed

0:25:38.720 --> 0:25:43.600
<v Speaker 2>works within the context of Shogun Assassin. But the character

0:25:43.600 --> 0:25:47.040
<v Speaker 2>who they identify as the Showgun is absolutely not the

0:25:47.080 --> 0:25:50.280
<v Speaker 2>Showgun in the Lone Wolf and Cub series.

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<v Speaker 3>I was so confused because the movie, the way it's edited,

0:25:55.800 --> 0:25:57.960
<v Speaker 3>makes it clear that he's supposed to be the Showgun.

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<v Speaker 3>Because like when the narration mentions the show, they always

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<v Speaker 3>showed this guy's face. And then I was reading summaries

0:26:04.280 --> 0:26:07.040
<v Speaker 3>of the plot that like, say, no, this guy isn't

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<v Speaker 3>the Shogun. He's like the head of the Ninja assassins.

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<v Speaker 3>And I was like, well, that kind of makes sense

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<v Speaker 3>because he doesn't really look like he doesn't have shogun regalia, no,

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<v Speaker 3>not at all, And so yeah, it was I had

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<v Speaker 3>no idea what was going on here, but I did

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<v Speaker 3>call him the Shogun in my plot summary, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>that's what we're gonna go with.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's totally fair to call him the showgun within

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<v Speaker 2>the confines of Shogun Assassin, but within the confines of

0:26:31.760 --> 0:26:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the larger Lone Wolf and Cub series and the other

0:26:34.920 --> 0:26:41.400
<v Speaker 2>six movies, this character is Yagyu Rotsuto, and he is. Yes,

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:46.040
<v Speaker 2>he's the head of this group of ninja assassins. He is.

0:26:46.160 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 2>He's not the showgun. He's one of the Shogun's many vassals,

0:26:50.359 --> 0:26:54.640
<v Speaker 2>but he is working his own political agenda within the system.

0:26:55.119 --> 0:26:59.320
<v Speaker 3>He really just doesn't have shogun energy either. He does

0:26:59.359 --> 0:27:03.119
<v Speaker 3>have big bag energy, but for a Western equivalent, he

0:27:03.160 --> 0:27:06.040
<v Speaker 3>feels more like a like a resputant type character. Like

0:27:06.080 --> 0:27:09.200
<v Speaker 3>he's supposed to be a wicked mad monk or something.

0:27:09.720 --> 0:27:12.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because that's the look he has, like this like

0:27:12.920 --> 0:27:18.239
<v Speaker 2>demon white hair and scowl like he out scowls are

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:20.439
<v Speaker 2>our Ronan here, you know, like he's just it's a

0:27:20.480 --> 0:27:25.359
<v Speaker 2>scowl off between these two. But yeah, Gratzudo is such

0:27:25.359 --> 0:27:28.440
<v Speaker 2>a great villain in this picture. Even even though he's

0:27:28.520 --> 0:27:31.560
<v Speaker 2>largely an orchestrator, we don't see him directly do anything.

0:27:31.920 --> 0:27:35.240
<v Speaker 2>And that's ultimately kind of the tragedy here. Because this

0:27:35.359 --> 0:27:39.359
<v Speaker 2>character is the long term antagonist of the series. There's

0:27:39.359 --> 0:27:41.280
<v Speaker 2>not going to be any payoff with him. This guy

0:27:41.400 --> 0:27:45.520
<v Speaker 2>is not getting assassinated. No, despite the title Showgun Assassin,

0:27:46.200 --> 0:27:48.119
<v Speaker 2>the Showgun's not getting it in this picture.

0:27:48.600 --> 0:27:51.280
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the target of our protagonist in the last scene

0:27:51.320 --> 0:27:53.400
<v Speaker 3>in the movie is some guy that's like, who is this?

0:27:54.000 --> 0:27:56.000
<v Speaker 2>I think in Showgun Assassin they present him as the

0:27:56.040 --> 0:28:00.520
<v Speaker 2>Showgun's brother. Yes, but in the actual movie, the second

0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:02.560
<v Speaker 2>Lone Wolf and Cub film, it's like a.

0:28:02.480 --> 0:28:03.680
<v Speaker 3>Guy who is.

0:28:05.280 --> 0:28:10.120
<v Speaker 2>Betraying an Indigo company in order to give trade secrets

0:28:10.160 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 2>to the Showgun. So it's like an entire subplot that

0:28:13.200 --> 0:28:15.840
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really direct I mean, it does impact the Shogun,

0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:17.200
<v Speaker 2>but it's not the Shogun's brother.

0:28:17.440 --> 0:28:20.520
<v Speaker 3>No, the in Shogun Assassin, they describe him as this

0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:23.359
<v Speaker 3>evil lord who's the brother of the Showgun and is

0:28:23.359 --> 0:28:26.240
<v Speaker 3>oppressing the people who hire the Lone Wolf.

0:28:26.280 --> 0:28:28.600
<v Speaker 2>But now he's like a corporate defector.

0:28:30.119 --> 0:28:32.160
<v Speaker 3>But like I don't recall if we ever meet him

0:28:32.240 --> 0:28:34.760
<v Speaker 3>much in the movie before this, I mean maybe a little,

0:28:34.760 --> 0:28:37.439
<v Speaker 3>but yeah.

0:28:36.560 --> 0:28:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so at any rate, you can call him Shogun,

0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:43.240
<v Speaker 2>you can call him Ratsudo. But this character is played

0:28:43.240 --> 0:28:47.360
<v Speaker 2>by Yunosuki Ito, who lived nineteen nineteen through nineteen eighty,

0:28:47.800 --> 0:28:50.719
<v Speaker 2>a well regarded Japanese character actor who appeared in more

0:28:50.760 --> 0:28:54.040
<v Speaker 2>than two hundred films from between nineteen thirty two and

0:28:54.120 --> 0:28:58.760
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy nine, with parts ranging from hammi performances, which

0:28:58.880 --> 0:29:02.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm to understand are referred to as radish performances in

0:29:03.080 --> 0:29:08.040
<v Speaker 2>Japanese culture, because yeah, apparently he wrote a memoir and

0:29:08.080 --> 0:29:10.719
<v Speaker 2>it was like, you know, like memoir of a ratish

0:29:10.720 --> 0:29:14.080
<v Speaker 2>performer or something, you know. But he played everything from

0:29:14.320 --> 0:29:19.280
<v Speaker 2>like comedic characters to memorable villains. His credits include Kuisawa's

0:29:19.360 --> 0:29:24.000
<v Speaker 2>films Ikiu in fifty two, Sandjuro in sixty two, High

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:25.080
<v Speaker 2>and Low in sixty three.

0:29:25.960 --> 0:29:26.280
<v Speaker 3>He is.

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:28.920
<v Speaker 2>He's also known for a dual role in the classic

0:29:29.000 --> 0:29:32.120
<v Speaker 2>ninja film Shinobi Nomono, which I think this is one

0:29:32.160 --> 0:29:34.880
<v Speaker 2>that we mentioned in passing in our episodes on the Ninjas.

0:29:35.680 --> 0:29:37.560
<v Speaker 2>This is a picture from nineteen sixty two and it

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:41.320
<v Speaker 2>was an award winning performance. There's also a picture called

0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:45.360
<v Speaker 2>obamb exclamation Point from nineteen sixty four that's said to

0:29:45.360 --> 0:29:48.160
<v Speaker 2>be a great example of his comedic work. I included

0:29:48.200 --> 0:29:51.080
<v Speaker 2>a still from Obomb where you can see him like

0:29:51.200 --> 0:29:54.600
<v Speaker 2>plugging his ears with his fingers and you know, clear

0:29:54.840 --> 0:29:56.960
<v Speaker 2>comedic performance here he's.

0:29:56.800 --> 0:29:58.560
<v Speaker 3>Doing kind of a Don Knat's face.

0:29:58.920 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, that style of comedy. So yeah, I love

0:30:03.560 --> 0:30:07.160
<v Speaker 2>Eto so much in this as the villain Ritsudo, but

0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 2>sadly he did not return to play the part in

0:30:09.400 --> 0:30:14.120
<v Speaker 2>subsequent films. But here we have just this brooding, demonic

0:30:14.280 --> 0:30:18.080
<v Speaker 2>visage of a man just grating with hatred. And I

0:30:18.080 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 2>have to say the English dub in Shogun Assassin, I

0:30:21.120 --> 0:30:23.840
<v Speaker 2>feel it does very accurately capture the essence of his

0:30:23.880 --> 0:30:28.320
<v Speaker 2>original Japanese language dialogue as well. Just that just that grating,

0:30:28.480 --> 0:30:35.040
<v Speaker 2>like teeth grinding level of a venom in his voice. Yeah,

0:30:35.200 --> 0:30:37.200
<v Speaker 2>just like you want this guy or you maybe you

0:30:37.240 --> 0:30:39.040
<v Speaker 2>don't want this guy to show up outside your door

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:41.440
<v Speaker 2>everything every time you do something wrong, like there in

0:30:41.480 --> 0:30:41.960
<v Speaker 2>your place.

0:30:42.800 --> 0:30:47.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they they fit him in well as the Shogun

0:30:47.920 --> 0:30:51.120
<v Speaker 3>with the narration, at least because, as Digoro explains that

0:30:51.200 --> 0:30:54.440
<v Speaker 3>the Shogun was paranoid and saw enemies everywhere, and this

0:30:54.480 --> 0:30:57.600
<v Speaker 3>guy looks like that. He's his eyes are always shifting

0:30:57.640 --> 0:31:00.240
<v Speaker 3>back and forth real quick to you know see he's

0:31:00.280 --> 0:31:04.920
<v Speaker 3>coming from any corner. He looks suspicious and frightened and angry,

0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 3>and also has that general look of someone who's like

0:31:09.480 --> 0:31:12.400
<v Speaker 3>the not wellness of their mind has affected their body,

0:31:12.520 --> 0:31:15.080
<v Speaker 3>Like he looks kind of decrepit in some way.

0:31:15.480 --> 0:31:18.120
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely so, Again, Shogun Assassin does not have time for

0:31:18.160 --> 0:31:21.280
<v Speaker 2>all the politics. They simplify everything. But it's a good

0:31:21.280 --> 0:31:23.520
<v Speaker 2>at it in terms of just presenting a picture that

0:31:23.560 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 2>the grindhouse audience can enjoy in a villain they can

0:31:27.560 --> 0:31:28.680
<v Speaker 2>ooh an a at.

0:31:28.760 --> 0:31:30.560
<v Speaker 3>This movie has so many villains.

0:31:31.120 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, because we also have we have numerous heads

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:37.960
<v Speaker 2>of different Ninja Assassin clans and I'm not even we

0:31:38.000 --> 0:31:40.440
<v Speaker 2>can't even get into all of those but one of

0:31:40.440 --> 0:31:42.320
<v Speaker 2>the key ones. But I would say the key one

0:31:42.320 --> 0:31:46.360
<v Speaker 2>that also ends up becoming an ally of sorts is

0:31:46.400 --> 0:31:51.040
<v Speaker 2>the Supreme Ninja. This is Yagyu Sayaka, played by Keo

0:31:51.240 --> 0:31:55.560
<v Speaker 2>Matsuo born nineteen forty three, our female ninja master of

0:31:55.640 --> 0:31:59.280
<v Speaker 2>exceptional skill. She's perhaps best known for this role, but

0:31:59.360 --> 0:32:02.719
<v Speaker 2>she was also in nineteen sixty nine's Outlaw Gangster VIP

0:32:03.240 --> 0:32:06.240
<v Speaker 2>nineteen sixty four is Gata Flesh. In nineteen seventy is

0:32:06.240 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 2>the Vampire Doll.

0:32:07.760 --> 0:32:10.280
<v Speaker 3>So she plays the head of a clan of ninja

0:32:10.320 --> 0:32:12.680
<v Speaker 3>who are all women who sort of they do the

0:32:12.840 --> 0:32:16.880
<v Speaker 3>operate in disguise and sneak attack stuff. And her ninja

0:32:16.920 --> 0:32:19.480
<v Speaker 3>are said to be the best, and she is. I

0:32:19.480 --> 0:32:23.080
<v Speaker 3>would say of all the enemies that Lone Wolf faces

0:32:23.080 --> 0:32:25.640
<v Speaker 3>in the movie, she is the one who gets closest

0:32:25.680 --> 0:32:26.840
<v Speaker 3>to getting the better of him.

0:32:27.240 --> 0:32:29.760
<v Speaker 2>That's right, That's right. But also I think she gets

0:32:29.800 --> 0:32:30.800
<v Speaker 2>a little too close.

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 3>To his heart. Yeah, she gets in with a net.

0:32:34.560 --> 0:32:36.720
<v Speaker 3>It's hard to beat a net, you know. Yeah.

0:32:36.800 --> 0:32:38.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, she's effective in combat against and they have a

0:32:38.560 --> 0:32:41.400
<v Speaker 2>great fight scene. I mean, all the fight scenes are great.

0:32:41.400 --> 0:32:45.040
<v Speaker 2>But other thing worth mentioning is that in Shogun Assassin

0:32:45.160 --> 0:32:48.640
<v Speaker 2>she is I believe dubbed by comedian and actress Sandra

0:32:48.720 --> 0:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>Bernhardt nineteen fifty five. I'm not saying it's a great dub,

0:32:54.720 --> 0:33:01.040
<v Speaker 2>but apparently this is Sandra Bernhard all right. There There

0:33:01.040 --> 0:33:03.959
<v Speaker 2>are some other like heads of different ninja groups that

0:33:04.360 --> 0:33:06.560
<v Speaker 2>we could mention if we have more time, but I

0:33:06.600 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 2>do want to mention that we have not one, not two,

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:13.560
<v Speaker 2>but three Masters of Death in this picture that show

0:33:13.680 --> 0:33:18.800
<v Speaker 2>up late in the movie as essentially like the main bosses.

0:33:19.320 --> 0:33:23.040
<v Speaker 3>Their outfits, in particular their hats might be quite familiar

0:33:23.080 --> 0:33:24.880
<v Speaker 3>to fans of Big Trouble in Little China.

0:33:25.360 --> 0:33:27.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, the Three Storms in Big Trouble and Little China

0:33:27.760 --> 0:33:30.800
<v Speaker 2>are clearly based in part in a large part on

0:33:30.880 --> 0:33:33.600
<v Speaker 2>the look of the Masters of Death aka the Monks

0:33:33.640 --> 0:33:38.000
<v Speaker 2>of Death a ka the Hidari Brothers. They're not sorcerers

0:33:38.880 --> 0:33:42.680
<v Speaker 2>like the Three Storms. They are just masters of martial arts,

0:33:43.360 --> 0:33:46.840
<v Speaker 2>and they depend on particular weapons. Let's see, what is it,

0:33:46.880 --> 0:33:52.160
<v Speaker 2>the like the flying maces, the like the spike gloves.

0:33:52.280 --> 0:33:56.080
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's like a like a gardening claws kind of thing. Yeah,

0:33:56.160 --> 0:33:58.640
<v Speaker 3>there's a there's like a glove with spikes on the fist,

0:33:58.760 --> 0:34:01.600
<v Speaker 3>and there's a club with in it. Yeah.

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:05.000
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, these are the Masters of Death. The lead

0:34:05.400 --> 0:34:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Master of Death is Binma Hidari, played by Minoru Oki

0:34:10.719 --> 0:34:12.680
<v Speaker 2>who lived nineteen twenty three through two thousand and nine,

0:34:12.800 --> 0:34:15.439
<v Speaker 2>Japanese actor best known for his work in the Lone

0:34:15.440 --> 0:34:18.239
<v Speaker 2>Wolf and Cub films, because not only does he play

0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:21.360
<v Speaker 2>the lead master or Monk of Death here, but he

0:34:21.440 --> 0:34:23.960
<v Speaker 2>returned to the Lone Wolf and Cub series in films

0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:27.040
<v Speaker 2>five and six to play his own version of the

0:34:27.120 --> 0:34:29.959
<v Speaker 2>chief villain Yagyu ritsudo oh.

0:34:30.040 --> 0:34:33.080
<v Speaker 3>Okay, so he replaces the actor who in this movie

0:34:33.239 --> 0:34:36.440
<v Speaker 3>is is twisted into being the shogun.

0:34:36.920 --> 0:34:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Right. Yeah, so the character shows up much later, and

0:34:40.000 --> 0:34:42.600
<v Speaker 2>so I believe he is the actor playing the character

0:34:43.080 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 2>when vengeance and or assassination finally does occur.

0:34:47.000 --> 0:34:47.960
<v Speaker 3>Okay.

0:34:48.360 --> 0:34:51.319
<v Speaker 2>He was also in nineteen sixty nine Horrors of Malformed Men,

0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:53.839
<v Speaker 2>which we have mentioned on the show before. And I'll

0:34:53.880 --> 0:34:57.120
<v Speaker 2>also mention that one of the other Masters of Death

0:34:57.320 --> 0:35:01.120
<v Speaker 2>is This is the Karuma Hidari get which weapon he uses.

0:35:01.200 --> 0:35:03.960
<v Speaker 2>Is played by Shin Kashida who lived nineteen thirty nine

0:35:04.000 --> 0:35:06.839
<v Speaker 2>through nineteen eighty two, a supporting actor best known for

0:35:07.000 --> 0:35:09.680
<v Speaker 2>this film as well as Godzilla versus Mecha Godzilla from

0:35:09.680 --> 0:35:14.880
<v Speaker 2>seventy four Lady Snowblood two and then two different Dracula films.

0:35:14.960 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 2>Nineteen seventy one's Lake of Dracula in nineteen seventy four

0:35:18.160 --> 0:35:20.439
<v Speaker 2>is Evil of Dracula, which I think you could also

0:35:20.520 --> 0:35:25.120
<v Speaker 2>maybe referred to as Principle of Dracula. That's one. It's

0:35:25.120 --> 0:35:27.439
<v Speaker 2>on my list now. I really want to see Evil

0:35:27.480 --> 0:35:32.520
<v Speaker 2>of Dracula. Okay, all right, but let's let's get back

0:35:32.560 --> 0:35:36.040
<v Speaker 2>to the music here again. This is what drew me

0:35:36.400 --> 0:35:40.480
<v Speaker 2>into watching Shogun Assassin in the first place. And we've

0:35:40.480 --> 0:35:42.880
<v Speaker 2>already talked a little about just how about how effective

0:35:42.920 --> 0:35:46.560
<v Speaker 2>the synth score is. Now. The original films were scored

0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:52.120
<v Speaker 2>by Aikens Sakura and Hideka Sakurai, and I think some

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:55.200
<v Speaker 2>of their original music remains in Shogun Assassin. I could

0:35:55.200 --> 0:35:57.680
<v Speaker 2>be wrong on that, but more to the point, we

0:35:57.760 --> 0:36:01.560
<v Speaker 2>have this just deliriously great since score added to the picture.

0:36:01.760 --> 0:36:04.120
<v Speaker 2>And this is the work of Mark Lindsay for nineteen

0:36:04.160 --> 0:36:06.879
<v Speaker 2>forty two and W Michael Lewis.

0:36:07.239 --> 0:36:07.319
<v Speaker 4>So.

0:36:07.400 --> 0:36:10.400
<v Speaker 3>I don't know if I've ever used this term applied

0:36:10.520 --> 0:36:13.880
<v Speaker 3>to music before, but sometimes we say of an actor

0:36:15.000 --> 0:36:17.960
<v Speaker 3>that we admire that they're really committed to the role,

0:36:18.200 --> 0:36:22.200
<v Speaker 3>meaning that they're They're not holding back anything for fear

0:36:22.239 --> 0:36:25.960
<v Speaker 3>of embarrassment. They're not trying to be more subtle than

0:36:26.080 --> 0:36:29.640
<v Speaker 3>is required. They just go headfirst all the way in.

0:36:30.239 --> 0:36:32.080
<v Speaker 3>This is the first movie I've ever seen where I

0:36:32.080 --> 0:36:35.640
<v Speaker 3>would say that about the music. The music is just

0:36:35.800 --> 0:36:39.520
<v Speaker 3>committed to the feeling. They are not holding back anything.

0:36:39.640 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 3>This just unabashed, pure feeling made into vibrations.

0:36:44.719 --> 0:36:50.440
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. Yeah, it's just a terrific score. And it's interesting

0:36:50.480 --> 0:36:53.279
<v Speaker 2>looking at these two individuals. So, Mark Lindsay was the

0:36:53.360 --> 0:36:56.560
<v Speaker 2>vocalist and sax player for the American rock band Paul

0:36:56.640 --> 0:36:59.480
<v Speaker 2>Revere and the Raiders from nineteen fifty eight through nineteen

0:36:59.480 --> 0:37:03.239
<v Speaker 2>seventy five. Joe, are you familiar at all with Paul

0:37:03.280 --> 0:37:04.040
<v Speaker 2>Revere and the Raiders.

0:37:04.160 --> 0:37:06.920
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean this was some of my parents' music.

0:37:07.160 --> 0:37:09.960
<v Speaker 3>I remember when I was younger, Like, I remember kicks,

0:37:10.000 --> 0:37:12.200
<v Speaker 3>you know, kicks just keep getting harder to find.

0:37:12.080 --> 0:37:15.680
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmm. I this was also some of my parents' music.

0:37:15.840 --> 0:37:19.520
<v Speaker 2>I specifically remember going through the records at my grandmother's house.

0:37:19.560 --> 0:37:21.880
<v Speaker 2>It would have been like the records of my mom's

0:37:21.920 --> 0:37:25.320
<v Speaker 2>and also her sisters, and finding a Paul Revere and

0:37:25.360 --> 0:37:28.839
<v Speaker 2>the Raiders album in there. And I remember just thinking, man,

0:37:28.960 --> 0:37:31.920
<v Speaker 2>the nineteen sixties just looks so lame, Like this is

0:37:31.960 --> 0:37:34.840
<v Speaker 2>the lamest thing I've ever seen, because if you're not familiar,

0:37:35.080 --> 0:37:41.200
<v Speaker 2>their whole shtick visually was dressing up as Revolutionary War soldiers.

0:37:41.239 --> 0:37:45.759
<v Speaker 2>You know, they had these Revolutionary War costumes, which I mean,

0:37:45.840 --> 0:37:46.680
<v Speaker 2>I guess maybe the.

0:37:46.760 --> 0:37:49.640
<v Speaker 3>Best bit I've ever heard.

0:37:48.880 --> 0:37:50.520
<v Speaker 2>Like was it cool at the time. I guess it

0:37:50.640 --> 0:37:53.680
<v Speaker 2>was people dug it, But I remember just thinking this

0:37:53.800 --> 0:37:54.759
<v Speaker 2>just looks super lame.

0:37:55.160 --> 0:37:58.840
<v Speaker 3>Is there supposed to be Like, so if it's Paul Revere,

0:37:58.960 --> 0:38:02.200
<v Speaker 3>is it like the British are coming? Like British invasion music?

0:38:02.360 --> 0:38:03.160
<v Speaker 3>Is that something?

0:38:03.280 --> 0:38:05.279
<v Speaker 2>I guess it's like, yeah, it's like a counter to

0:38:05.320 --> 0:38:08.040
<v Speaker 2>the British invasion. And that would that would have been

0:38:08.080 --> 0:38:10.200
<v Speaker 2>lost on me as a as a child looking at this,

0:38:10.360 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 2>all I knew at the time was that what's the

0:38:13.080 --> 0:38:16.280
<v Speaker 2>most boring thing in school? It's a it's American history

0:38:17.920 --> 0:38:20.000
<v Speaker 2>at the time. I'm not saying that as an adult,

0:38:20.040 --> 0:38:23.680
<v Speaker 2>American history is fascinating, but at the time, the idea

0:38:23.800 --> 0:38:27.280
<v Speaker 2>of Revolutionary War themed music was not like a great

0:38:27.360 --> 0:38:31.760
<v Speaker 2>cell But to be clear, Paul Revere and the Raiders

0:38:31.800 --> 0:38:34.400
<v Speaker 2>not super lame. They had some real gems, some real jams,

0:38:34.440 --> 0:38:35.160
<v Speaker 2>if you will.

0:38:36.080 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 3>I understand it from the school perspective. Yeah, it's like

0:38:38.960 --> 0:38:42.840
<v Speaker 3>the band is where their theme is. They're all math textbooks. Yeah,

0:38:42.960 --> 0:38:43.279
<v Speaker 3>it was.

0:38:43.360 --> 0:38:46.759
<v Speaker 2>It was like they were a textbook themed So anyway, Yeah,

0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:48.400
<v Speaker 2>they have some, they have some some. They have some

0:38:48.440 --> 0:38:51.160
<v Speaker 2>great music. I went, I'd never really gotten into their stuff,

0:38:51.160 --> 0:38:52.600
<v Speaker 2>but I did make sure that I listened to some

0:38:52.800 --> 0:38:55.000
<v Speaker 2>of their tracks. They have a great nineteen seventy one

0:38:55.040 --> 0:38:59.880
<v Speaker 2>cover of Indian Reservation so solid group. Mark turned to

0:39:00.200 --> 0:39:03.880
<v Speaker 2>scoring in the nineteen seventies for a bet w Michael Lewis,

0:39:04.320 --> 0:39:06.520
<v Speaker 2>for his part, was a music producer who got into

0:39:06.520 --> 0:39:10.160
<v Speaker 2>scoring with nineteen seventy eight Secrets of the Bermuda Triangle,

0:39:10.719 --> 0:39:13.600
<v Speaker 2>and he'd go on to score nineteen eighties New Year's Evil,

0:39:14.040 --> 0:39:17.719
<v Speaker 2>nineteen eighty one's Enter the Ninja, and also the TV

0:39:17.880 --> 0:39:21.000
<v Speaker 2>series In Search of starring Letter Game foy Oh.

0:39:21.040 --> 0:39:22.640
<v Speaker 3>I saw that when I looked him up.

0:39:24.040 --> 0:39:26.920
<v Speaker 2>Plus a couple of nineteen eighty seven releases Maximum Potential

0:39:26.960 --> 0:39:28.240
<v Speaker 2>and Hot Child in the City.

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<v Speaker 3>Sorry, I had to stop and remember what the name

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<v Speaker 3>of this other Bermuda Triangle movie I was thinking of

0:39:33.160 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 3>was no. The one I was thinking of is a

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:38.880
<v Speaker 3>made for TV movie from nineteen also from nineteen seventy

0:39:38.920 --> 0:39:42.920
<v Speaker 3>eight called The Bermuda Depths, which starred Carl Weathers in

0:39:43.080 --> 0:39:48.200
<v Speaker 3>the shortest shorts ever made, and also had burl Ives

0:39:48.280 --> 0:39:51.479
<v Speaker 3>as I think a marine biologist or something. But it's

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:54.839
<v Speaker 3>ultimately it's about a giant turtle that attacks a boat.

0:39:55.400 --> 0:39:58.960
<v Speaker 2>I think you made me watch the climax from this picture.

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<v Speaker 3>It looked not the best.

0:40:01.920 --> 0:40:05.040
<v Speaker 2>It looked incredible. Maybe we'll come back.

0:40:04.840 --> 0:40:07.040
<v Speaker 3>To it maybe.

0:40:07.920 --> 0:40:11.440
<v Speaker 2>So anyway, Yeah, the music for Shogun Assassin, I think

0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:12.320
<v Speaker 2>it's just tremendous.

0:40:13.000 --> 0:40:13.280
<v Speaker 3>Again.

0:40:13.680 --> 0:40:16.560
<v Speaker 2>De Goro's theme is not only I think the best

0:40:16.560 --> 0:40:19.120
<v Speaker 2>track on the score, but it's just an amazing and

0:40:19.120 --> 0:40:21.960
<v Speaker 2>emotional number in its own right. Like it's one of

0:40:21.960 --> 0:40:24.600
<v Speaker 2>these where I was listening to it earlier today and

0:40:24.640 --> 0:40:26.400
<v Speaker 2>I was like, is this one of my favorite songs?

0:40:26.400 --> 0:40:26.600
<v Speaker 5>Now?

0:40:26.640 --> 0:40:29.840
<v Speaker 2>I think this is currently one of the greatest musical

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<v Speaker 2>compositions of all time. My opinions will change, obviously, but

0:40:33.400 --> 0:40:35.040
<v Speaker 2>right now it's really doing it for me.

0:40:35.480 --> 0:40:38.040
<v Speaker 3>It's so good, Like I said, not holding anything back.

0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:42.200
<v Speaker 3>You can imagine somebody being like, oh is this music?

0:40:42.360 --> 0:40:44.040
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, should we make it a little more

0:40:44.080 --> 0:40:48.040
<v Speaker 3>subtle little but no, it's just it's just the raw

0:40:48.160 --> 0:40:54.000
<v Speaker 3>power of feeling unleashed. Something feels absolutely unabashed about it,

0:40:54.040 --> 0:40:55.120
<v Speaker 3>and I love it.

0:40:55.040 --> 0:40:57.760
<v Speaker 2>And it's perfect for a film that again, is a

0:40:57.920 --> 0:41:02.600
<v Speaker 2>Samurai reduction. You know, did two films reduced into one?

0:41:03.280 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 2>You know, just the most dizzying moments of psychedelia or

0:41:08.840 --> 0:41:12.839
<v Speaker 2>bloody violence condensed into a single picture that I mean,

0:41:13.160 --> 0:41:15.480
<v Speaker 2>it's really Again, it's a testament that they were to

0:41:15.560 --> 0:41:18.040
<v Speaker 2>the film, the American filmmakers here, that they were able

0:41:18.120 --> 0:41:21.480
<v Speaker 2>to take part one and part two in this series

0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:23.480
<v Speaker 2>and make a single picture out of it that works

0:41:23.480 --> 0:41:26.520
<v Speaker 2>this well. Yeah, the score here, by the way to

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:29.680
<v Speaker 2>Shogun Assassin is available wherever you stream your music, and

0:41:29.760 --> 0:41:32.640
<v Speaker 2>there are CD and vinyl versions as well. I do

0:41:32.760 --> 0:41:35.440
<v Speaker 2>not know if there is like a blood red vinyl

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:37.839
<v Speaker 2>edition of this soundtrack, but there needs to be.

0:41:38.200 --> 0:41:41.200
<v Speaker 3>If you listen to it, at least the version that

0:41:41.280 --> 0:41:44.000
<v Speaker 3>I heard on Spotify. It includes some of the narration

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:45.240
<v Speaker 3>from the movie as well.

0:41:45.680 --> 0:41:48.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so good. That also made me tear up,

0:41:48.600 --> 0:41:52.239
<v Speaker 2>like on an airplane listening to this. You know, people

0:41:52.280 --> 0:41:53.920
<v Speaker 2>are like, are you okay? And I'm like, I'm just

0:41:53.960 --> 0:41:56.879
<v Speaker 2>listening to the Showgun Assassin soundtrack. Man, that's all. That's

0:41:56.920 --> 0:41:58.120
<v Speaker 2>all that's going on here. I'm good.

0:41:58.400 --> 0:42:01.439
<v Speaker 3>This is funny. How similar are experienceiances were? I also

0:42:01.520 --> 0:42:05.920
<v Speaker 3>had embarrassing emotional episodes Digo's theme specifically.

0:42:06.320 --> 0:42:18.200
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, all right, let's get into that plot of Shogun Assassin.

0:42:18.719 --> 0:42:20.880
<v Speaker 3>All right, Well, we have already mentioned how strong the

0:42:20.920 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 3>movie kicks off. So the introductory segment has a child's

0:42:25.719 --> 0:42:30.040
<v Speaker 3>voice narrating as we see a montage of scenes play out.

0:42:30.160 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 3>And this is the voice of Digoro, the Cub of

0:42:33.200 --> 0:42:37.000
<v Speaker 3>Lone Wolf and Cub. So the introductory narration plays over

0:42:37.040 --> 0:42:42.040
<v Speaker 3>this dark melody on synthesizer bass, the sound of absolute doom,

0:42:42.760 --> 0:42:45.880
<v Speaker 3>and we hear the child's voice say, when I was little,

0:42:46.080 --> 0:42:49.600
<v Speaker 3>my father was famous. He was the greatest samurai in

0:42:49.640 --> 0:42:54.120
<v Speaker 3>the empire, and he was the Shogun's decapitator. He cut

0:42:54.160 --> 0:42:56.719
<v Speaker 3>off the heads of one hundred and thirty one lords

0:42:56.760 --> 0:43:01.120
<v Speaker 3>for the Shogun. And as this narration is going on,

0:43:01.280 --> 0:43:05.480
<v Speaker 3>we see our protagonist walk into the frame the silent

0:43:05.560 --> 0:43:09.280
<v Speaker 3>Ogami Eto. His eyes are down cast, he moves slowly.

0:43:09.800 --> 0:43:14.040
<v Speaker 3>He has a blank, lugubrious expression, and then we see

0:43:14.160 --> 0:43:18.319
<v Speaker 3>Itto's blade twisting and gleaming in the light, and then

0:43:18.600 --> 0:43:22.760
<v Speaker 3>suddenly there's like a shadow playlet entirely in red and

0:43:23.160 --> 0:43:26.200
<v Speaker 3>just the silhouettes of the human figures in the foreground,

0:43:26.239 --> 0:43:28.399
<v Speaker 3>and we see a man kneeling to receive a death

0:43:28.440 --> 0:43:32.440
<v Speaker 3>sentence and another man, presumably our protagonist here, bringing a

0:43:32.480 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 3>sword down on his neck.

0:43:34.320 --> 0:43:37.160
<v Speaker 2>And to be clear, if you have to have your

0:43:37.200 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 2>head cut off, this is the guy you want to

0:43:39.440 --> 0:43:41.479
<v Speaker 2>do it. This guy is the ultimate pro.

0:43:42.080 --> 0:43:45.000
<v Speaker 3>It reminds me of our series on the Invention of

0:43:45.040 --> 0:43:48.520
<v Speaker 3>the guillotine, where we were talking about how bad a

0:43:48.560 --> 0:43:51.800
<v Speaker 3>lot of professional executioners were and like they just couldn't

0:43:52.080 --> 0:43:54.239
<v Speaker 3>like it took them way too many tries to get

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 3>it done.

0:43:55.160 --> 0:43:58.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, a gami eto one swipe every time, guaranteed.

0:43:59.280 --> 0:44:03.000
<v Speaker 3>If you want some oof historical reading, look up Jack Ketch.

0:44:03.560 --> 0:44:08.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, I remember some of these details. And it

0:44:08.120 --> 0:44:11.840
<v Speaker 2>was also I recently visited the revisited the Tower of London,

0:44:12.080 --> 0:44:13.839
<v Speaker 2>so I guess I got to read more about some

0:44:13.880 --> 0:44:16.960
<v Speaker 2>of these these execution facts. Yeah, but they did not

0:44:17.120 --> 0:44:20.640
<v Speaker 2>have the Shogun's mastered decapitator on hand.

0:44:21.520 --> 0:44:24.880
<v Speaker 3>So Digoro's narration goes on he says it was a

0:44:24.920 --> 0:44:28.400
<v Speaker 3>bad time for the empire. The shogun just stayed inside

0:44:28.480 --> 0:44:31.440
<v Speaker 3>his castle and he never came out. People said his

0:44:31.480 --> 0:44:34.600
<v Speaker 3>brain was infected by devils and that he was rotting

0:44:34.680 --> 0:44:38.160
<v Speaker 3>with evil. The shogun said the people were not loyal.

0:44:38.560 --> 0:44:40.560
<v Speaker 3>He said he had a lot of enemies, but he

0:44:40.719 --> 0:44:43.960
<v Speaker 3>killed more people than that. Then we see a castle.

0:44:44.440 --> 0:44:46.920
<v Speaker 3>The gate swing open, revealing sort of a court to

0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:50.480
<v Speaker 3>a bunch of entourage of people and a ruler. And

0:44:50.600 --> 0:44:53.040
<v Speaker 3>here's where I was originally going to break and discuss.

0:44:53.080 --> 0:44:55.600
<v Speaker 3>Wait a minute, is the guy we're seeing here the shogun?

0:44:55.640 --> 0:44:59.719
<v Speaker 3>But we already had that conversation, not originally, but in

0:44:59.760 --> 0:45:02.840
<v Speaker 3>show Assassin, that is what is implied he is the shogun.

0:45:03.200 --> 0:45:06.040
<v Speaker 2>Yes, yeah, So we're just going to continue referring to

0:45:06.120 --> 0:45:08.879
<v Speaker 2>him as the shogun just for the simplicity's sake here.

0:45:09.320 --> 0:45:13.520
<v Speaker 2>And you know, oh, I do love this narration because

0:45:13.880 --> 0:45:16.480
<v Speaker 2>there is a simplicity to it that also works not

0:45:16.560 --> 0:45:19.720
<v Speaker 2>only for the project that is Shogun Assassin, but also

0:45:20.360 --> 0:45:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the idea that this is a child's recollection and the

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:26.800
<v Speaker 2>child is working from, you know, a much simpler view

0:45:27.239 --> 0:45:31.080
<v Speaker 2>of right and wrong and good and evil in his

0:45:31.360 --> 0:45:32.160
<v Speaker 2>known universe.

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:36.160
<v Speaker 3>Interesting yeah, And I guess implied by that, you're saying

0:45:36.160 --> 0:45:38.800
<v Speaker 3>this might be sort of a child's memory of the shogun,

0:45:38.840 --> 0:45:40.560
<v Speaker 3>in which he looks almost like a monster.

0:45:41.200 --> 0:45:43.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, I think you could lean into that kind

0:45:43.239 --> 0:45:43.960
<v Speaker 2>of interpretation.

0:45:44.400 --> 0:45:48.280
<v Speaker 3>So he's got wild, uncombed white hair and beard that's

0:45:48.320 --> 0:45:51.680
<v Speaker 3>blowing around in the wind like a mass of cobwebs. Also,

0:45:51.719 --> 0:45:55.440
<v Speaker 3>he has flaring white eyebrows, his teeth are clenched, he's

0:45:55.440 --> 0:45:58.960
<v Speaker 3>got dark eyes. His eyes just keep jerking back and forth,

0:45:59.000 --> 0:46:03.640
<v Speaker 3>suspicions viciously. The shogun is not well. And then we

0:46:03.719 --> 0:46:07.560
<v Speaker 3>see the shogun soldiers leading bound men up a mountain

0:46:07.640 --> 0:46:10.319
<v Speaker 3>side with their hands tied behind their back, to a

0:46:10.440 --> 0:46:14.200
<v Speaker 3>chaotic mass execution in the gravel beside a small tarn.

0:46:15.040 --> 0:46:19.120
<v Speaker 3>The narration goes on. It was a bad time, everybody

0:46:19.160 --> 0:46:22.960
<v Speaker 3>living in fear, but still we were happy. My father

0:46:22.960 --> 0:46:25.799
<v Speaker 3>would come home to mother, and when he had seen her,

0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:29.000
<v Speaker 3>he would forget about the killings. He wasn't scared of

0:46:29.040 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 3>the shogun, but the shogun was scared of him. Maybe

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:35.640
<v Speaker 3>that was the problem. And so here we see a

0:46:35.760 --> 0:46:38.319
<v Speaker 3>brief glimpse of the family's life at home, the mother

0:46:38.480 --> 0:46:41.759
<v Speaker 3>nursing the baby son, at their house, rain pouring into

0:46:41.840 --> 0:46:44.879
<v Speaker 3>the small bamboo forest outside, and I think the sort

0:46:44.920 --> 0:46:48.200
<v Speaker 3>of weather is a metaphor. Here there's love and comfort inside,

0:46:48.280 --> 0:46:51.759
<v Speaker 3>but not outside where the weather is bad. And the

0:46:51.760 --> 0:46:54.520
<v Speaker 3>father comes home and undresses. He takes his baby in

0:46:54.560 --> 0:46:57.000
<v Speaker 3>his arms, and the mother says that she had a

0:46:57.040 --> 0:46:59.680
<v Speaker 3>bad dream, but the father calms her and says, to

0:46:59.719 --> 0:47:02.400
<v Speaker 3>the bay, maybe what a time you chose to be born?

0:47:02.560 --> 0:47:07.359
<v Speaker 3>I grow. The narration goes on at night. Mother would

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:09.960
<v Speaker 3>sing for us while father would go into his temple

0:47:10.040 --> 0:47:13.280
<v Speaker 3>and pray for peace. He'd pray for things to get better.

0:47:13.840 --> 0:47:17.000
<v Speaker 3>Then one night the shogun sent his ninja spies to

0:47:17.080 --> 0:47:20.440
<v Speaker 3>our house. They were supposed to kill my father, but

0:47:20.560 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 3>they didn't. Here we see ninja scaling the wall and

0:47:24.520 --> 0:47:27.480
<v Speaker 3>sneaking into their home. And there some if you go

0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:29.840
<v Speaker 3>back to our ninja episodes from a while back, we

0:47:29.880 --> 0:47:32.719
<v Speaker 3>see some stuff we talked about there, some equipment like

0:47:32.719 --> 0:47:36.960
<v Speaker 3>the ninja are carrying swords between their teeth out and

0:47:37.040 --> 0:47:40.239
<v Speaker 3>they climb up on ropes on grappling hooks. And so

0:47:40.360 --> 0:47:43.400
<v Speaker 3>the father is praying in his temple while with the

0:47:43.440 --> 0:47:45.959
<v Speaker 3>baby in his arms, and then he hears his wife

0:47:46.080 --> 0:47:48.400
<v Speaker 3>scream from the other end of the house. By the

0:47:48.440 --> 0:47:51.280
<v Speaker 3>time he gets there, she's mortally wounded and the ninja

0:47:51.320 --> 0:47:54.080
<v Speaker 3>are gone, and the dying mother tells the father that

0:47:54.160 --> 0:47:57.799
<v Speaker 3>he must protect their son. The narration tells us that

0:47:58.040 --> 0:48:02.080
<v Speaker 3>was the night everything changed. That was when my father

0:48:02.280 --> 0:48:06.160
<v Speaker 3>left his samurai life and became a demon. He became

0:48:06.200 --> 0:48:09.400
<v Speaker 3>an assassin who walks the road of vengeance, and he

0:48:09.480 --> 0:48:12.520
<v Speaker 3>took me with him. And then at this moment we

0:48:12.600 --> 0:48:16.760
<v Speaker 3>see a scene of the dynamic that will be treated

0:48:16.800 --> 0:48:18.799
<v Speaker 3>as sort of the ground reality for the rest of

0:48:18.840 --> 0:48:23.400
<v Speaker 3>the movie. The father trudging along lonely, desolate roads pushing

0:48:23.400 --> 0:48:26.439
<v Speaker 3>a wooden cart and the baby son riding in the cart.

0:48:27.000 --> 0:48:30.920
<v Speaker 3>Daigo says, I don't remember most of this myself. I

0:48:30.960 --> 0:48:34.319
<v Speaker 3>only remember the shogun's ninja hunting us wherever we go,

0:48:34.840 --> 0:48:37.240
<v Speaker 3>and the body's falling and the blood.

0:48:38.680 --> 0:48:41.280
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and this is the like, this is the key

0:48:42.120 --> 0:48:46.160
<v Speaker 2>component of Lone Wolf and Cub that has been highly influential.

0:48:46.440 --> 0:48:48.880
<v Speaker 2>So if you out there are a fan of the

0:48:48.880 --> 0:48:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Mandalorian series, like the Mandalorian is quite clearly and you know,

0:48:53.600 --> 0:48:56.760
<v Speaker 2>the creators are very upfront about this, very much inspired

0:48:56.800 --> 0:49:00.320
<v Speaker 2>by Lone Wolf and Cub. You know, a warrior protecting

0:49:00.360 --> 0:49:06.080
<v Speaker 2>a child, you know, hunted by enemies, but you know,

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:10.880
<v Speaker 2>standing by the child to protect them, and especially with

0:49:10.920 --> 0:49:14.040
<v Speaker 2>lone Wolf and Cub I couldn't help. But also compare

0:49:14.080 --> 0:49:17.160
<v Speaker 2>it to the two thousand and six novel by Cormick McCarthy,

0:49:17.520 --> 0:49:20.240
<v Speaker 2>The Road, in which a father and his son traverse

0:49:20.239 --> 0:49:23.880
<v Speaker 2>a doomed landscape where there's ever present danger and the

0:49:23.920 --> 0:49:27.000
<v Speaker 2>father's entire existence is to still down to the protection

0:49:27.120 --> 0:49:30.240
<v Speaker 2>of his son. Quote he knew only that his child

0:49:30.400 --> 0:49:32.880
<v Speaker 2>was his warrant, he said. If he is not the

0:49:32.920 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 2>word of God, God never spoke. You know that kind

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.520
<v Speaker 2>of vibe. So, I mean, I don't know the court

0:49:39.560 --> 0:49:43.000
<v Speaker 2>McCarthy ever watched Shogun Assassin, but you know, I think

0:49:43.000 --> 0:49:46.319
<v Speaker 2>they're scratching the same itch here. But I think it's

0:49:46.360 --> 0:49:48.880
<v Speaker 2>something that you know, a lot of us can relate to.

0:49:49.040 --> 0:49:52.239
<v Speaker 2>You know, certainly, if if there is a child in

0:49:52.280 --> 0:49:54.279
<v Speaker 2>your life, where there has been a child in your

0:49:54.320 --> 0:49:58.319
<v Speaker 2>life where you had this role as a protector, like,

0:49:58.360 --> 0:50:00.840
<v Speaker 2>it's easy to sort of lean in into this. I

0:50:00.880 --> 0:50:04.400
<v Speaker 2>think ultimately you know very distilled idea of what your

0:50:04.680 --> 0:50:07.680
<v Speaker 2>responsibility is. You know, in the same way that zombie

0:50:07.680 --> 0:50:11.920
<v Speaker 2>films are enthralling because it simplifies good and evil into like,

0:50:12.000 --> 0:50:14.560
<v Speaker 2>you know, and in us versus them, it's like this kind

0:50:14.560 --> 0:50:18.080
<v Speaker 2>of the lone wolf and cub model reduces everything down

0:50:18.080 --> 0:50:20.719
<v Speaker 2>to I must protect my child from ninjas, you know,

0:50:21.440 --> 0:50:24.560
<v Speaker 2>and you know, we'll get to some degree that is accurate.

0:50:24.960 --> 0:50:28.440
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and so, and we get that demonstrated here because

0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:30.640
<v Speaker 3>here we go to the very first action scene in

0:50:30.680 --> 0:50:35.000
<v Speaker 3>the film, the attack by ninja wearing baskets over their heads,

0:50:35.360 --> 0:50:39.440
<v Speaker 3>which is amazingly creepy and memorable. So it begins with

0:50:39.560 --> 0:50:43.000
<v Speaker 3>one man running toward the father and son from a distance.

0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:45.680
<v Speaker 3>They're on the road. He's pushing the cart there just

0:50:45.800 --> 0:50:49.200
<v Speaker 3>in the middle of nowhere, and there's someone running toward them,

0:50:49.320 --> 0:50:53.160
<v Speaker 3>sword in hand, his head completely covered in a basket

0:50:53.239 --> 0:50:55.080
<v Speaker 3>like a helmet with a mask in the front. There's

0:50:55.120 --> 0:50:56.960
<v Speaker 3>kind of a grating in the basket, but you can't

0:50:56.960 --> 0:50:59.759
<v Speaker 3>see his face. And there's a long build up as

0:50:59.800 --> 0:51:02.759
<v Speaker 3>the ninja draws closer, and then finally when he's in

0:51:02.960 --> 0:51:06.640
<v Speaker 3>within striking distance, the father just suddenly flicks his sword

0:51:06.760 --> 0:51:10.200
<v Speaker 3>and cleaves the ninja's head through the basket, with the

0:51:10.280 --> 0:51:13.840
<v Speaker 3>ninja catching the blade between his hands as he dies,

0:51:14.400 --> 0:51:19.360
<v Speaker 3>and then a second ninja leaps out from behind the first,

0:51:19.840 --> 0:51:23.239
<v Speaker 3>springs from his dying partner's shoulders and tries to land

0:51:23.239 --> 0:51:26.920
<v Speaker 3>a killing stroke while his while the father's sword is stuck.

0:51:27.280 --> 0:51:30.680
<v Speaker 3>But the father is too crafty. He pulls a hidden

0:51:30.880 --> 0:51:33.839
<v Speaker 3>second weapon from the cart, which is a bamboo pole

0:51:33.920 --> 0:51:36.920
<v Speaker 3>with a retractable blade in it, and he skewers the

0:51:36.960 --> 0:51:39.560
<v Speaker 3>attacker in mid air. And so then as the first

0:51:39.640 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 3>ninja collapses with his dying breath, he tells the father,

0:51:42.960 --> 0:51:46.240
<v Speaker 3>you are marked for death. Wherever you go, you cannot

0:51:46.400 --> 0:51:47.759
<v Speaker 3>escape the showgun.

0:51:48.640 --> 0:51:53.279
<v Speaker 2>Ah, it's such a strong start. This scene is not

0:51:53.360 --> 0:51:56.080
<v Speaker 2>only is it from the second film Lone Wolf and

0:51:56.120 --> 0:51:59.040
<v Speaker 2>Cub Baby cart at the River sticks. It is the

0:51:59.080 --> 0:52:02.200
<v Speaker 2>cold open to that picture, like you just go straight

0:52:02.280 --> 0:52:06.400
<v Speaker 2>to this encounter. And it's a little longer in the

0:52:06.440 --> 0:52:12.680
<v Speaker 2>original cut obviously, But I have several thoughts of this same.

0:52:12.719 --> 0:52:14.800
<v Speaker 2>First of all, in the Showgun Assassin cut, I believe

0:52:14.840 --> 0:52:17.960
<v Speaker 2>the secondary assassin that leaps over the shoulders of the

0:52:17.960 --> 0:52:23.680
<v Speaker 2>first I believe he says Ninja is he, which is

0:52:23.719 --> 0:52:27.880
<v Speaker 2>great within the context of Showgun Assassin, But of course

0:52:27.960 --> 0:52:30.160
<v Speaker 2>in reality, I don't know that as a ninja you

0:52:30.200 --> 0:52:34.520
<v Speaker 2>would say ninja as you attack somebody, but still I

0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:39.919
<v Speaker 2>love it. Secondly, yeah, okay, back to the first assassin though, Yeah,

0:52:39.920 --> 0:52:43.920
<v Speaker 2>he apparently tries to pull off this maneuver that is

0:52:43.960 --> 0:52:49.400
<v Speaker 2>known in Japanese manga, anime, and cinema as a shinkin shiradori.

0:52:50.080 --> 0:52:52.640
<v Speaker 2>This is where you catch the blade with between your

0:52:52.680 --> 0:52:55.719
<v Speaker 2>palms before it can cut into you, and then if

0:52:55.719 --> 0:52:58.080
<v Speaker 2>you're really savvy, maybe you do a special twist to

0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:01.520
<v Speaker 2>sort of like throw the attacker to the side. This

0:53:01.880 --> 0:53:05.520
<v Speaker 2>has become like a standard not only in manga, in

0:53:05.600 --> 0:53:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Japanese cinema, but throughout like action picture the action picture world.

0:53:10.480 --> 0:53:13.280
<v Speaker 2>Like for instance, in Blade two, the day Walker pulls

0:53:13.320 --> 0:53:15.400
<v Speaker 2>this move off kind of laid in the picture to

0:53:15.480 --> 0:53:18.920
<v Speaker 2>great effect, but in reality, I'm to understand this is

0:53:18.960 --> 0:53:22.040
<v Speaker 2>impossible for a human swordsman to pull off. I think

0:53:22.040 --> 0:53:24.879
<v Speaker 2>there's a MythBusters episode where they look into it, and

0:53:25.000 --> 0:53:30.359
<v Speaker 2>I think the word the term shinkin shihradori. I think

0:53:30.400 --> 0:53:33.160
<v Speaker 2>it originally referred to some sort of maneuver that keeps

0:53:33.200 --> 0:53:36.680
<v Speaker 2>your opponent from even drawing their sword, So like that's

0:53:36.719 --> 0:53:39.759
<v Speaker 2>the time to stop it, not with coming through the

0:53:39.800 --> 0:53:43.400
<v Speaker 2>air at your head. Yeah, But what makes this sequence

0:53:43.400 --> 0:53:46.200
<v Speaker 2>so amazing is that you know, you're going up against

0:53:46.239 --> 0:53:49.040
<v Speaker 2>the greatest swordsman that's ever lived. You're trying to counter

0:53:49.239 --> 0:53:53.160
<v Speaker 2>his deathly sword strike, and he does not get all

0:53:53.200 --> 0:53:56.120
<v Speaker 2>of that counter move. Yeah, it's like maybe he stops

0:53:56.160 --> 0:53:58.279
<v Speaker 2>it from cleaving his head all the way through, but

0:53:58.400 --> 0:54:00.560
<v Speaker 2>it has already entered the brain point.

0:54:00.920 --> 0:54:03.640
<v Speaker 3>But it almost seems like this was the plan, Like

0:54:03.680 --> 0:54:06.440
<v Speaker 3>the plan is that the father will get his sword

0:54:06.600 --> 0:54:09.640
<v Speaker 3>stuck in the first ninja and the second one will

0:54:09.719 --> 0:54:12.040
<v Speaker 3>use that moment to strike. Did you get it the

0:54:12.080 --> 0:54:12.480
<v Speaker 3>same way?

0:54:12.719 --> 0:54:15.320
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely? And that's a little more clear in the original

0:54:15.360 --> 0:54:17.839
<v Speaker 2>cut of this action sequence, but I think it still

0:54:17.880 --> 0:54:20.200
<v Speaker 2>comes through in Shogun Assassin as well. But yeah, it's

0:54:20.560 --> 0:54:23.120
<v Speaker 2>a great start to the combat because this is going

0:54:23.160 --> 0:54:24.000
<v Speaker 2>to set the tone.

0:54:24.440 --> 0:54:26.879
<v Speaker 3>So after the intro, we see the father and son

0:54:27.000 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 3>sitting together at a campfire in the middle of a

0:54:29.760 --> 0:54:33.000
<v Speaker 3>thick forest. They're eating something white. I think it's rice

0:54:33.040 --> 0:54:36.080
<v Speaker 3>balls or maybe buns or something, and they're just sitting

0:54:36.080 --> 0:54:39.680
<v Speaker 3>there staring blankly into the fire, and the child's voice

0:54:39.680 --> 0:54:43.800
<v Speaker 3>over continues. He says, my father hardly ever talks anymore.

0:54:44.200 --> 0:54:47.000
<v Speaker 3>We just go a little farther. Every day at night

0:54:47.080 --> 0:54:49.640
<v Speaker 3>we make a fire and have our tea, and we

0:54:49.800 --> 0:54:53.560
<v Speaker 3>listen for the ninja who never make a sound. I

0:54:53.680 --> 0:54:57.680
<v Speaker 3>like that part. Same Diego says, sometimes he tells me

0:54:57.719 --> 0:55:00.759
<v Speaker 3>about the past and about mother. Try not to think

0:55:00.800 --> 0:55:03.880
<v Speaker 3>about it. But my father can't help it. Sometimes he

0:55:03.920 --> 0:55:07.440
<v Speaker 3>gets lost in the past. And here we're about to

0:55:07.440 --> 0:55:10.840
<v Speaker 3>see a couple of flashback scenes from before Lone Wolf

0:55:10.880 --> 0:55:14.000
<v Speaker 3>and cub Win on the Run. The first is after

0:55:14.160 --> 0:55:17.800
<v Speaker 3>the death of Azami Diego's mother. This is the sword

0:55:17.920 --> 0:55:22.719
<v Speaker 3>and ball scene where the father he's grieving. He's not

0:55:22.840 --> 0:55:26.080
<v Speaker 3>in his right mind, and he has Digro with him

0:55:26.080 --> 0:55:28.719
<v Speaker 3>in his temple. They're both dressed in white, and the

0:55:28.760 --> 0:55:32.120
<v Speaker 3>father says, today I begin walking the road to hell,

0:55:32.400 --> 0:55:35.480
<v Speaker 3>but you will choose your own path. And he offers

0:55:35.520 --> 0:55:39.160
<v Speaker 3>a sword and a toy ball. And so the idea is,

0:55:39.200 --> 0:55:41.839
<v Speaker 3>he says, choose the sword and the child will join

0:55:41.920 --> 0:55:44.680
<v Speaker 3>his father on the road to hell. Choose the toy

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.759
<v Speaker 3>and the child will join his mother in heaven. And

0:55:47.800 --> 0:55:50.640
<v Speaker 3>there's some suspense, but the cub he crawls and he

0:55:50.680 --> 0:55:53.560
<v Speaker 3>reaches for the sword, and the father is both troubled

0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.239
<v Speaker 3>and relieved, and he hugs his son and says that

0:55:56.320 --> 0:55:58.319
<v Speaker 3>his mother would be proud, and they will defy the

0:55:58.320 --> 0:56:00.880
<v Speaker 3>shogun together, assassin and with son.

0:56:01.640 --> 0:56:02.600
<v Speaker 2>It's a great sequence.

0:56:03.280 --> 0:56:06.279
<v Speaker 3>He says that, like it's like the name of their business. Yeah,

0:56:06.360 --> 0:56:07.239
<v Speaker 3>well it is.

0:56:07.600 --> 0:56:09.880
<v Speaker 2>It does pretty bod. I forget exactly what the wording is.

0:56:09.920 --> 0:56:12.560
<v Speaker 2>But they have that banner on their cart. That's like

0:56:12.640 --> 0:56:16.359
<v Speaker 2>sword for hire, son for hire. You need a hold

0:56:16.400 --> 0:56:20.240
<v Speaker 2>of toddler, got you covered? You need a local enemy

0:56:20.640 --> 0:56:22.359
<v Speaker 2>cut in half. We can talk.

0:56:23.040 --> 0:56:27.600
<v Speaker 3>So the other flashback is what followed immediately followed that immediately,

0:56:27.600 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 3>which is the moment of defiance. So the shogun's emissary

0:56:31.160 --> 0:56:34.400
<v Speaker 3>comes to the father and reads a decree that he

0:56:34.480 --> 0:56:38.120
<v Speaker 3>must either swear eternal loyalty to the shogun or commit

0:56:38.160 --> 0:56:42.399
<v Speaker 3>harakiri with his son. And obviously he's gonna do neither one.

0:56:42.520 --> 0:56:45.000
<v Speaker 3>He's got his head down and he starts to laugh

0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:48.840
<v Speaker 3>and then slowly raises his face up, looking very stern

0:56:48.960 --> 0:56:52.040
<v Speaker 3>and almost evil, and he says, you are wrong. I

0:56:52.200 --> 0:56:55.160
<v Speaker 3>have a third choice. And then the other guys they

0:56:55.160 --> 0:56:58.600
<v Speaker 3>immediately get like freaked out. Uh oh. And in one

0:56:58.719 --> 0:57:01.080
<v Speaker 3>arm he picks up his infants, and in the other

0:57:01.200 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 3>arm he draws his sword and the officials who read

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:06.759
<v Speaker 3>the decree they call for guards. They're like, ah, stop him,

0:57:06.800 --> 0:57:09.279
<v Speaker 3>can't you see he's a devil. I'm not sure quite

0:57:09.320 --> 0:57:12.439
<v Speaker 3>what was meant by that, but it's yeah, they're seeing

0:57:12.520 --> 0:57:15.200
<v Speaker 3>him as some kind of demon. And this leads to

0:57:15.239 --> 0:57:19.040
<v Speaker 3>a brutal sword fight one against many to escape the building,

0:57:19.360 --> 0:57:21.560
<v Speaker 3>and the father has his son in the crook of

0:57:21.600 --> 0:57:25.680
<v Speaker 3>one arm the whole time. It's very stylized violence. We

0:57:25.760 --> 0:57:29.160
<v Speaker 3>see a sword blade break off inside a guard's neck.

0:57:29.280 --> 0:57:31.960
<v Speaker 3>There are jets of bright red blood that erupt like

0:57:32.040 --> 0:57:35.400
<v Speaker 3>geysers from the adversary's wounds. You can see why this

0:57:35.560 --> 0:57:38.600
<v Speaker 3>was effective on the midnight movie circuit. Yeah.

0:57:38.640 --> 0:57:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if arterial sprays like this are realistic

0:57:41.520 --> 0:57:45.000
<v Speaker 2>or hyper realistic. I thankfully do not know, but it

0:57:45.080 --> 0:57:48.040
<v Speaker 2>certainly sizzles on the screen, and you get this idea

0:57:48.080 --> 0:57:51.120
<v Speaker 2>that a human's life blood is just this high pressure substance,

0:57:51.400 --> 0:57:56.200
<v Speaker 2>absolutely straining for release by a skilled swordsman like ogami Eto.

0:57:56.840 --> 0:57:59.720
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, a lot of blood jets in this movie. However,

0:58:00.160 --> 0:58:02.840
<v Speaker 3>the father cuts his way out of the compound, he

0:58:02.920 --> 0:58:07.640
<v Speaker 3>is suddenly faced with the shogun and his entourage. The shogun.

0:58:08.160 --> 0:58:09.919
<v Speaker 3>So he like cuts through the gate and the gate

0:58:09.920 --> 0:58:12.040
<v Speaker 3>opens and the Shogun is there with all of his men.

0:58:12.480 --> 0:58:15.200
<v Speaker 3>The Shogun calls him mad one and says he can

0:58:15.240 --> 0:58:17.920
<v Speaker 3>never escape his fate, but he offers him a deal.

0:58:18.560 --> 0:58:22.120
<v Speaker 3>He says, you agree to a one on one duel

0:58:22.240 --> 0:58:25.240
<v Speaker 3>with my son with the Shogun's son, and if Lone

0:58:25.280 --> 0:58:28.080
<v Speaker 3>Wolf can win this duel, he will be awarded his freedom,

0:58:28.480 --> 0:58:29.800
<v Speaker 3>and Lone Wolf accepts.

0:58:30.680 --> 0:58:32.880
<v Speaker 2>Now, again, I'm not going to go into a lot

0:58:32.880 --> 0:58:35.720
<v Speaker 2>of detail about the differences between the original pictures and

0:58:35.720 --> 0:58:37.520
<v Speaker 2>Shogun Assassin, but I do feel like I need to

0:58:37.600 --> 0:58:40.400
<v Speaker 2>jump in on this one and point out that in

0:58:40.440 --> 0:58:44.160
<v Speaker 2>the original again, Ogami is cornered not by the Shogun

0:58:44.200 --> 0:58:48.200
<v Speaker 2>but by Ratsuto and his men, and he's given a

0:58:48.280 --> 0:58:50.920
<v Speaker 2>choice here. He's like, Okay, this is the way it

0:58:50.960 --> 0:58:54.600
<v Speaker 2>can go down for you, Ogami. Either you go ahead

0:58:54.600 --> 0:58:58.400
<v Speaker 2>and commit your honorable suicide right now, or my soldiers

0:58:58.440 --> 0:59:00.240
<v Speaker 2>are going to cut you down with their quote wall

0:59:00.280 --> 0:59:05.120
<v Speaker 2>of swords. And Ogami says, no, neither of those is

0:59:05.120 --> 0:59:07.400
<v Speaker 2>going to happen, and he tears off these outer white

0:59:07.480 --> 0:59:10.800
<v Speaker 2>robes and reveals that he wears black robes with the

0:59:10.840 --> 0:59:15.400
<v Speaker 2>hollyhock crest of the Tokugawa schokunate. So he's like, look,

0:59:15.440 --> 0:59:18.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm wearing the colors in the crest of the shogun.

0:59:19.080 --> 0:59:21.960
<v Speaker 2>You can't kill me. You can't even point your swords

0:59:22.000 --> 0:59:26.640
<v Speaker 2>at me without dishonoring yourself. And so they're at a standstill,

0:59:26.680 --> 0:59:29.280
<v Speaker 2>and so a compromise is made. Okay, you remove those

0:59:29.400 --> 0:59:34.400
<v Speaker 2>robes and we will settle this via a formal duel. Yeah,

0:59:34.480 --> 0:59:36.360
<v Speaker 2>because otherwise you might say, well, why didn't they just

0:59:36.400 --> 0:59:38.600
<v Speaker 2>cut him down? Well, in the original picture it made

0:59:38.640 --> 0:59:39.080
<v Speaker 2>more sense.

0:59:39.480 --> 0:59:42.840
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, So we go to the duel from here. The

0:59:42.960 --> 0:59:46.040
<v Speaker 3>duel takes place in the afternoon in a meadow of

0:59:46.080 --> 0:59:48.480
<v Speaker 3>tall grass blowing in the wind, and we see the

0:59:48.720 --> 0:59:51.840
<v Speaker 3>to samurai square off at a distance. The shogun's sun

0:59:51.960 --> 0:59:56.960
<v Speaker 3>is scowling, hateful, determined. The Lone Wolf wears the cub

0:59:57.120 --> 1:00:00.720
<v Speaker 3>on a basket on his back, and they they draw

1:00:00.800 --> 1:00:03.400
<v Speaker 3>their swords and charge at one another. But Lone Wolf

1:00:03.440 --> 1:00:06.040
<v Speaker 3>has a trick up his sleeve. Here. Right when they

1:00:06.040 --> 1:00:08.840
<v Speaker 3>are about to meet on the field, Lone Wolf bows

1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:13.600
<v Speaker 3>his head and reveals a mirror mounted on Diigero's head,

1:00:13.920 --> 1:00:17.760
<v Speaker 3>which reflects the low sun and blinds their enemy, and

1:00:17.800 --> 1:00:22.240
<v Speaker 3>then lone wolf chops off the lord's son's head and

1:00:22.280 --> 1:00:24.960
<v Speaker 3>his body is just standing there, headless with jets of

1:00:25.000 --> 1:00:27.400
<v Speaker 3>blood blasting out of the next stump in slow motion

1:00:27.840 --> 1:00:29.400
<v Speaker 3>in the Golden sunset.

1:00:29.680 --> 1:00:30.680
<v Speaker 2>Oh it's beautiful.

1:00:30.840 --> 1:00:33.560
<v Speaker 3>I mean in a grisly way. It is so beautiful.

1:00:33.880 --> 1:00:36.600
<v Speaker 2>And one thing that's pointed out in the sor I'm

1:00:36.600 --> 1:00:38.520
<v Speaker 2>going to do one more of these. Well, something that's

1:00:38.520 --> 1:00:42.360
<v Speaker 2>pointed out in the original picture is that this is

1:00:42.400 --> 1:00:46.960
<v Speaker 2>like a swordsman that is of comparable ability to a gami,

1:00:47.800 --> 1:00:50.840
<v Speaker 2>but he has the sun to his back, and therefore

1:00:50.960 --> 1:00:56.000
<v Speaker 2>he has an advantage and will probably prevail. But Ogami

1:00:57.000 --> 1:01:01.439
<v Speaker 2>via the cub and his mirror turns his advantage into

1:01:01.440 --> 1:01:04.880
<v Speaker 2>a disadvantage by reflecting the sunlight back into his eyes.

1:01:05.480 --> 1:01:07.680
<v Speaker 3>That does make more sense of it, because this part

1:01:07.680 --> 1:01:09.760
<v Speaker 3>I was thinking, well, he's just like cutting the slicing

1:01:09.760 --> 1:01:13.360
<v Speaker 3>through everybody, like butter. Why is this guy such a challenge,

1:01:13.880 --> 1:01:15.680
<v Speaker 3>But it would make sense if we know something about

1:01:15.760 --> 1:01:17.760
<v Speaker 3>him and that he has an advantage on the Yeah,

1:01:18.240 --> 1:01:21.280
<v Speaker 3>though they do show the sun, they don't talk about it,

1:01:21.320 --> 1:01:23.960
<v Speaker 3>but they do show the sun being low and in

1:01:24.000 --> 1:01:24.520
<v Speaker 3>his face.

1:01:25.040 --> 1:01:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, either way, even if you don't know all those details,

1:01:27.840 --> 1:01:31.680
<v Speaker 2>it is another super stylistically violent execution.

1:01:32.120 --> 1:01:34.880
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So this scene fades back into a scene of

1:01:35.000 --> 1:01:38.240
<v Speaker 3>lone wolf and cub at a campfire in the wilderness,

1:01:38.600 --> 1:01:41.880
<v Speaker 3>and the camera slowly pulls back from them as father

1:01:42.000 --> 1:01:45.520
<v Speaker 3>turns his head. And then on the soundtrack they had

1:01:45.560 --> 1:01:49.120
<v Speaker 3>to add this in. We get a guttural, animalistic growl.

1:01:49.360 --> 1:01:55.880
<v Speaker 3>It's a wolf growling. Probably just a dog, right. Yeah, anyway,

1:01:55.920 --> 1:01:58.680
<v Speaker 3>here the introductory I would say this is the part

1:01:58.720 --> 1:02:01.520
<v Speaker 3>where the introductory part of the movie gives way to

1:02:01.600 --> 1:02:04.880
<v Speaker 3>the main plot. Though, as we said earlier, the idea

1:02:04.960 --> 1:02:08.400
<v Speaker 3>that this movie has a plot, it's very loose. Basically,

1:02:08.440 --> 1:02:11.200
<v Speaker 3>the plot is the father wanders the country pushing his

1:02:11.280 --> 1:02:13.960
<v Speaker 3>son in a wooden cart. They stop at places where

1:02:13.960 --> 1:02:16.800
<v Speaker 3>the father can take contracts. He works as an assassin,

1:02:17.280 --> 1:02:20.200
<v Speaker 3>and he makes money. He makes money to live this way,

1:02:20.600 --> 1:02:23.320
<v Speaker 3>but he doesn't seem to really want to become rich

1:02:23.440 --> 1:02:25.680
<v Speaker 3>or like find a way out. He sort of seems

1:02:25.720 --> 1:02:28.080
<v Speaker 3>to squander the money he makes. From what I can.

1:02:27.960 --> 1:02:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Tell, Yeah, I mean I think part of it is

1:02:30.480 --> 1:02:34.400
<v Speaker 2>like he's I mean, he has no future, like his

1:02:34.480 --> 1:02:36.840
<v Speaker 2>son is the only future that matters, and he will

1:02:36.840 --> 1:02:39.840
<v Speaker 2>do everything for him, but like he has lost all honor.

1:02:39.880 --> 1:02:42.600
<v Speaker 2>He's a wandering ronan. What is he going to do

1:02:42.640 --> 1:02:45.200
<v Speaker 2>with this money except, you know, pay for the next

1:02:45.280 --> 1:02:48.800
<v Speaker 2>night's sleep, pay for the next bath, and so forth.

1:02:49.040 --> 1:02:52.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So, meanwhile, the Shogun keeps hiring new ninjas and

1:02:52.520 --> 1:02:56.360
<v Speaker 3>assassins to send after him and his son. So we

1:02:56.440 --> 1:02:59.800
<v Speaker 3>follow several episodes of that where assassins are sent after them.

1:03:00.160 --> 1:03:04.240
<v Speaker 3>The main mission of this film, especially in the second half,

1:03:04.320 --> 1:03:06.720
<v Speaker 3>is a job that the Lone Wolf takes from a

1:03:06.720 --> 1:03:10.320
<v Speaker 3>group of locals asking him to kill a Lord Kirou,

1:03:10.480 --> 1:03:14.120
<v Speaker 3>the Shogun's cruel brother, who is oppressing them. But Lord

1:03:14.200 --> 1:03:17.360
<v Speaker 3>Kirou is guarded by three ninja brothers known as the

1:03:17.400 --> 1:03:22.720
<v Speaker 3>Masters of Death, whom we mentioned earlier. The visual inspiration

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<v Speaker 3>clearly or at least part of the DNA that inspired

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<v Speaker 3>the Three Storms from Big Trouble in Little China, the

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<v Speaker 3>large wide hats, the specialized weapons, and the deadly auras.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and they do just cut everyone to ribbons. They

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<v Speaker 2>jump into action. The Masters of Death are awesome.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, And so the final showdown at the end of

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<v Speaker 3>the movie will be the Father versus the three Masters

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<v Speaker 3>of Death and a scene in the desert. Strangely, I

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<v Speaker 3>was kind of wondering where that's supposed to take place.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I've never been to any of these, but there

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<v Speaker 2>are a few different sand dunes in Japan, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure which one we're looking at here, but I

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<v Speaker 2>think I've seen it pop up in a few different

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<v Speaker 2>Japanese films and TV shows.

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<v Speaker 6>Over the years.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, well, I guess we've sort of sketched the general

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<v Speaker 3>outline of the plot, but maybe we can talk about

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<v Speaker 3>a few scenes that we just wanted to explore in

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<v Speaker 3>a little bit of detail. One that I wanted to

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<v Speaker 3>mention is closer to the beginning, and it's the scene

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<v Speaker 3>where a lone Wolf and cub visit a bath house

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<v Speaker 3>in town because so Digoro is explaining in the narration

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<v Speaker 3>that visiting a town is dangerous because they don't fit

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<v Speaker 3>in and the shogun's ninja are everywhere. But then he says,

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<v Speaker 3>but sometimes you have to take a chance if you

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<v Speaker 3>want to take a bath. So they go to this

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<v Speaker 3>bathhouse and the manager tries to turn them away, thinking

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<v Speaker 3>that they are penniless beggars, but then lone Wolf flashes

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<v Speaker 3>his wad of gold. He does have a lot. He

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<v Speaker 3>like gets it out of the cart, and the guy

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<v Speaker 3>changes his tune. He eagerly goes to wash Digoro's feet,

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<v Speaker 3>and then Diego kicks water in the guy's face. And

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<v Speaker 3>I like this scene because of the little moments of

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<v Speaker 3>the child almost playing, Like the way he stomps around

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<v Speaker 3>in the tub. It's clear that for the rest of

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<v Speaker 3>his life there is very little room for play, but

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<v Speaker 3>here you get to see him play.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, these little moments of play, they're very effective here,

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<v Speaker 2>and they've of course been very effective in the Mandalorian,

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<v Speaker 2>very much copying this blueprint. You know, the cuteness of

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<v Speaker 2>the child, the baby, Yoda, the Grogu, you know, very

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<v Speaker 2>much patterned on this.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Also there's a moment here at the so they're

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<v Speaker 3>like taking a bath. They're soaking in this big wash

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<v Speaker 3>tub and it's supposed to be relaxing. You see the

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<v Speaker 3>steam rising and they're kind of reclined. But there's an

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<v Speaker 3>interesting moment where like the camera pulls back and reveals

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<v Speaker 3>the father's arm is draped outside the tub and he's

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<v Speaker 3>like gripping his sword. And there's never any attack in

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<v Speaker 3>this scene. It's just that this is who he must

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<v Speaker 3>be now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah o Gomi and never truly rest. He always has

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<v Speaker 2>his sword at his side in a moment that peace

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<v Speaker 2>can disappear.

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<v Speaker 3>And so there are more plots, like there is a

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<v Speaker 3>theme established that Lone Wolf's enemies want to take his

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<v Speaker 3>son away from him. They think this will take away

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<v Speaker 3>his power, and so there's one plot to steal de

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<v Speaker 3>Gooro and this leads to a fight scene in a

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<v Speaker 3>river where like these guys come and say, like, where

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<v Speaker 3>is your son? We're going to take him, and then

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<v Speaker 3>the father goes to fight them, and then it's discovered

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<v Speaker 3>that they're like hiding armor underneath their clothing, but he

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<v Speaker 3>fights them anyway, and it turns into like a final

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<v Speaker 3>duel between him and one of the lords who opposes

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<v Speaker 3>him standing in the middle of a river. At the

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<v Speaker 3>base of this, I was going to say waterfall, but

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<v Speaker 3>I think it might actually be a kind of a

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<v Speaker 3>man made like spillway sort of thing, and Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>wins this fight by hiding his blade beneath the water

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<v Speaker 3>before he turns to move it.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so we get another like super style to kill here.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, after this duel is just the Shogun's just standing

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<v Speaker 3>on a bridge over the water like I will get you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they keep the dream of an encounter occurring with

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<v Speaker 2>the showgun alive, though it's again it's not gonna happen,

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<v Speaker 2>not in this film.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. There's another great scene, which is the scene of

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<v Speaker 3>recruiting the Ninja women. So one of the bad guys,

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is Lord Kouragawa working for the Shogun.

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<v Speaker 3>He meets with a woman who calls herself the Supreme Ninja,

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Ninja. She commands an army of women who

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<v Speaker 3>are all themselves Ninja warriors, and the Lord shows up

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<v Speaker 3>to task them with destroying Lone Wolf and cub but

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<v Speaker 3>she well, first of all, they tell her that he

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<v Speaker 3>fought a duel with the Shogun's air, and she says

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<v Speaker 3>what was the outcome of the duel? And he says terrible.

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<v Speaker 3>But the Supreme Ninja offer the Shogun's emissary a demonstration

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<v Speaker 3>of her of the prowess of her lady warriors. So

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<v Speaker 3>she's like, show me your strongest man, and this silent

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<v Speaker 3>fighter and a brown cloak and a conical hat comes forward.

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<v Speaker 3>We learned this is Juni, the strongest fighter of I

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<v Speaker 3>think it's Lord Kouragawa. Here and so the Supreme Ninja

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<v Speaker 3>addresses Juni and says, Okay, you've got to try to

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<v Speaker 3>find a way to escape from this room. But like

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<v Speaker 3>as she says this, her women are gathering around him,

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<v Speaker 3>and things are about to go very poorly for Junei.

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<v Speaker 3>He tries to escape using a grappling hook in the rafters.

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<v Speaker 3>He throws it up to the ceiling and swing out

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<v Speaker 3>of the chamber. But the women cut the rope, they

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<v Speaker 3>rip off his cloak, they pull swords out of their dresses,

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<v Speaker 3>and then they just run around slicing pieces off of

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<v Speaker 3>this dude, one at a time, so like we see

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<v Speaker 3>his fingers hit the floor and then the skin from

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<v Speaker 3>his face falls down to the floor like a rubber mask.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh it's rough. They cut him into a lot of pieces.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this scene is so grizzly and wonderful. They just

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<v Speaker 2>systematically take him apart, reducing him to a limbless, faceless

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<v Speaker 2>husk that like rolls across the floor, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>then there's nothing left to do but dispatch him.

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<v Speaker 3>And then the Supreme Ninja says, this is your best man.

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<v Speaker 3>Lone Wolf would swallow him and then begin the most

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<v Speaker 3>deranged Harley quinn laughter. It goes on for a long

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<v Speaker 3>time and then stops quite suddenly, and she's calm, and

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<v Speaker 3>she says, my women will execute him.

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<v Speaker 2>So basically this lays the groundwork for the next trio

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<v Speaker 2>of sequences, as the has three different groups of the

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<v Speaker 2>female Ninja's attempt to take out lone Wolf and cut.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So so first, well, this is outside. They're on

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<v Speaker 3>the road. Eventually they're pushing the cart between Dikon fields,

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<v Speaker 3>and I like how at the Dikon fields the women

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<v Speaker 3>are like down in the stream washing the dikon in

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<v Speaker 3>the water, and there's this creepy scarecrow with this like

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<v Speaker 3>wide eyed face on its headsack. It's interesting environmental details.

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<v Speaker 3>But actually, before they get to the Dikon fields, there's

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<v Speaker 3>an ambush by traveling entertainers on the roadside. And I

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<v Speaker 3>thought this was funny because in our in our Ninja episode,

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<v Speaker 3>we were talking about some classic story of Ninja running

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<v Speaker 3>around and spying by pretending to be traveling entertainers.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's a perfect cover.

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<v Speaker 3>So in this case, the father and son go by

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<v Speaker 3>and the entertainers are they're like dancers or acropats of

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<v Speaker 3>some kind. They're jumping around cart wheeling and somersaulting and stuff.

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<v Speaker 3>Whatever these people are they I think they somehow hypnotize

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<v Speaker 3>Lone Wolf with the spinning patterns on their clothing as

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<v Speaker 3>they spin around. So it gets very strawberry alarm clock

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<v Speaker 3>for a minute here. But of course these are really

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Ninja's assassins in disguise, and they try to

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<v Speaker 3>launch a sneak attack, but Lone Wolf is too quick,

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<v Speaker 3>even though he was briefly hypnotized by the clothing. His

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<v Speaker 3>sword flashes and they are done. And this is the

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<v Speaker 3>scene where Diego starts counting the dead Ninja.

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<v Speaker 5>You know.

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<v Speaker 3>He says, I try to count them so I can

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<v Speaker 3>pray for their souls. Father tells me not to count them,

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<v Speaker 3>but I have to to know how many to pray for.

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<v Speaker 3>And then he I think he says, they're up to

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<v Speaker 3>three hundred and forty five ninja.

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<v Speaker 2>It's quite a count.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So then we get to the attack of the

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<v Speaker 3>Dikon fields. So they're like going down the road in

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<v Speaker 3>the cart and these women come up in different waves.

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<v Speaker 3>Like the first wave of women throws these flying killer

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<v Speaker 3>hats with blades on them, the blades on the brim

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<v Speaker 3>and Lone Wolf fights them off, kills them, and then

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<v Speaker 3>there are the next wave has knives hidden inside the dikon, which, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>The dicons are like piercing the cart and all and

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<v Speaker 2>oh and I have to mention in the original the

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<v Speaker 2>second Lone Wolf picture, when they're preparing the dicons by

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<v Speaker 2>the river, they're singing a little song and the lyrics

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<v Speaker 2>are something like what the side dish for tonight? Oh

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<v Speaker 2>it's dikon.

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<v Speaker 3>Uh so yeah. There are these little a lot of

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<v Speaker 3>little tricks and secrets and reveals in this fight scene,

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<v Speaker 3>like secret knives popping out of the baby carriage, and

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<v Speaker 3>our protagonists fight through it all until they get to

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Ninja. She herself comes out to h to

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<v Speaker 3>administer the final attack on Lone Wolf here, which she

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<v Speaker 3>does with a net.

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<v Speaker 2>That's right, she nets him. The net prevents him from

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<v Speaker 2>immediately being able to draw his sword, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>he does eventually draw his sword, but they engage in

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<v Speaker 2>this short, intense close combat sword fight where it's clear

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<v Speaker 2>that they're pretty evenly matched, and we get to see

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<v Speaker 2>her effectively pull off that sword clap shinkin Shihradori maneuver

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<v Speaker 2>against Ogami clapping his sword blade before it can hit her,

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<v Speaker 2>and then she even does the twist and sends him

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<v Speaker 2>a sprawling So it's a fun little like you know,

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<v Speaker 2>evenly matched, you know, very close confines battle here.

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<v Speaker 3>But then it gets kind of looney tunes right at

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<v Speaker 3>the end, like they sort of fight to a draw.

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<v Speaker 3>But when lone Wolf is finally ready to like land

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<v Speaker 3>a sword blow on her, he like hits her, but

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<v Speaker 3>it doesn't actually hit her. She avoids it by jumping

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<v Speaker 3>out of her clothes. She's not naked, she's like still

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<v Speaker 3>wearing some kind of full body stalking, but just leaves

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<v Speaker 3>her original clothes standing there and leaps up in the

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<v Speaker 3>air out of them, lands in a field nearby, and

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<v Speaker 3>then starts fast motion running backwards as if the tape

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<v Speaker 3>were in reverse up a hill.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes, oh my god, this outcome is so wild. I

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<v Speaker 2>can't stress enough how bonkers it is. I think looney

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<v Speaker 2>tunes is the right word, because it's not like she

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<v Speaker 2>peels out of her clothing in a realistic manner. It

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<v Speaker 2>is like her outer garments are a jet fighter and

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<v Speaker 2>she has ejected from them.

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, yeah, and then runs like a spring snake in

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<v Speaker 3>the can.

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<v Speaker 2>Like a spring snake and then the running backwards. I

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<v Speaker 2>guess the idea is, like you, she can't lose sight

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<v Speaker 2>of her opponent something. So yeah, she's just running backwards

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<v Speaker 2>and doesn't take her eyes off of Lone Wolf for

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<v Speaker 2>quite a while, like at least a half a mile

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<v Speaker 2>running backs across the field. It's amazing.

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<v Speaker 3>But she's going really fast, so we don't have to

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<v Speaker 3>watch her go, you know, normal normal speed to a

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<v Speaker 3>half mile.

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<v Speaker 2>And he just sort of like looks at her, like

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<v Speaker 2>just watches her.

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<v Speaker 3>I've seen that trick before.

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<v Speaker 2>Well matched.

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<v Speaker 3>Then they also have to fight some more ninja in

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<v Speaker 3>the woods. This is a more I don't know. There's

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<v Speaker 3>a bunch of guys in the in the hats again,

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<v Speaker 3>and in this fight they use the cart as a weapon,

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<v Speaker 3>like it's got blades that come out the sides and

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<v Speaker 3>chop all the ninja's legs off. But after all this

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<v Speaker 3>we come to the part I mentioned this near the

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<v Speaker 3>top of the episode. We come to the part where

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<v Speaker 3>Lone Wolf is injured, and this leads to a sequence

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<v Speaker 3>where the boy has to take care of his father,

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<v Speaker 3>like his father is hiding in this little hut, and

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<v Speaker 3>so I mentioned the scene earlier of the boy trying

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<v Speaker 3>to bring him water from the river and he ends

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<v Speaker 3>up having to carry it in his mouth. But there

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<v Speaker 3>also he goes looking for food and he finds a

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<v Speaker 3>food offering at a shrine, but then he and he

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<v Speaker 3>wants to take it, but he doesn't want to be disrespectful,

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<v Speaker 3>so he leaves an offering of his own in its place.

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<v Speaker 3>He takes off some of his clothing and leaves it

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<v Speaker 3>at the shrine.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, this is a very sweet section, and of course

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<v Speaker 2>we have that great Digoro's theme playing, and yeah, we

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<v Speaker 2>see him, you know, bring water and then food back

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<v Speaker 2>to Ogami as Ogami lays, perhaps dying we don't know

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<v Speaker 2>at this point, but helping him to recuperate.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 4>Oh.

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<v Speaker 3>This leads to the part where Daikoro gets kidnapped to

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Ninja and the Shogun's Lord. They decide, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>we've got to steal him to steal the Lone Wolf's power.

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<v Speaker 3>So they take Digor away and they lure the Lone

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<v Speaker 3>Wolf out to find them in the middle of the night,

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<v Speaker 3>and he finds them standing around a well where Digoro

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<v Speaker 3>is suspended by a rope over the opening to the well.

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<v Speaker 3>How's lone Wolf going to get out of this one. Well,

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<v Speaker 3>he so, I think there's a clever little thing that

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<v Speaker 3>I missed the first time around, but I was rewatching

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<v Speaker 3>the scene and I realized what it was. So he

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<v Speaker 3>says something to Digoro, and then Digoro kicks his sandal

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<v Speaker 3>off and it falls down the well. And I think

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<v Speaker 3>that is letting the father know how long the drop is,

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<v Speaker 3>like the timing of the drop, because what happens is

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<v Speaker 3>he draws his sword and he quickly slashes a bunch

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<v Speaker 3>of the bad guys and then stomps on the rope

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<v Speaker 3>as Digoro is falling to stop him from falling, to

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<v Speaker 3>stop him before he hits the water at the bottom.

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And this is another thing where it's I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>the editing here is tight and effective. In the original film,

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<v Speaker 2>I think maybe more instantly make sense what's happening, but yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you still get the sense of it here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. So he slashes all of his enemies here except

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<v Speaker 3>for the Supreme Ninja who's just standing there watching, but

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<v Speaker 3>she does not attack, and neither does Lone Wolf, and

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<v Speaker 3>they kind of regard each other, and then Lone Wolf

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<v Speaker 3>frees his son and they walk away and Daigo says

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<v Speaker 3>in the narration that was the first time I ever

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<v Speaker 3>saw my father spare an enemy, So I think there's

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<v Speaker 3>some mutual respect.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, Yeah, and we'll come back to this character again too.

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<v Speaker 2>But from here we kind of proceed into mostly dealing

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<v Speaker 2>with the Masters of Death.

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<v Speaker 3>There's a long sequence on a boat. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>we need to go into all the details of the

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<v Speaker 3>boat journey and the fight on the boat, but there's

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<v Speaker 3>like rebels who are fighting against someone and the Masters

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<v Speaker 3>of Death mess them up on a boat. There's eventually

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<v Speaker 3>a fire and everybody has to jump off the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and after the everyone has to jump off the boat.

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<v Speaker 2>This is I think where we eventually get this sequence

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<v Speaker 2>where the Supreme Ninja, Lone Wolf, and Cub meet up

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<v Speaker 2>again and they're all wet and cold and they huddle

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<v Speaker 2>together for warmth, which is a scene where you don't

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<v Speaker 2>really know where this scene is going at first. Is

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<v Speaker 2>this going to be like some sort of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just pure exploitation moment, But it ends up being quite

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<v Speaker 2>sweet in its own way, Like there's these three lost

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<v Speaker 2>individuals huddling for warmth against in a dark world.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, yeah, it's complex there, because so he doesn't harm

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<v Speaker 3>the Supreme Ninja, and she doesn't want to harm him anymore,

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<v Speaker 3>but she has to go away, and he knows that

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<v Speaker 3>that means her death when she goes back to the

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<v Speaker 3>Shogun to like report what has happened.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so it's bittersweet. And this is of course another

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<v Speaker 2>thing where this is a little more complex and nuanced

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<v Speaker 2>in the second film, but we get a nice, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>edited down version of it here. But I think they

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<v Speaker 2>ultimately spare us nothing of the violence inflicted by and

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<v Speaker 2>upon the Masters of Death. All of that makes it

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<v Speaker 2>to the finished picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, yeah. So the final conflict in the film

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<v Speaker 3>is we get the Masters of Death leading their person

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<v Speaker 3>they're serving as a bodyguard for in this sort of

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<v Speaker 3>caravan through the desert. They're going up and down these

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<v Speaker 3>sand dunes, and then suddenly there is an attack first

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<v Speaker 3>I think by some rebels against this group, and the

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<v Speaker 3>Masters of Death just chop them up. They don't do well.

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<v Speaker 2>Are these the ones that they're initially hiding under the

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<v Speaker 2>sand to pop up and get the Masters of Death?

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<v Speaker 2>The Masters of Death are just like stabbing them in

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<v Speaker 2>the sand.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, it's kind of dune. Yeah yeah, But this finally

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<v Speaker 3>leads to the Masters of Death must face off against

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<v Speaker 3>Blown Wolf, and I mentioned this earlier, but in this

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<v Speaker 3>part the music infuses it with such vigor. There is

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<v Speaker 3>this relentless synthe size or vamp and a high lead

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<v Speaker 3>over this galloping drum beat. It's really good. Like the

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<v Speaker 3>movie itself, I think pre dates this convention in video games,

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<v Speaker 3>but it feels like boss music. It's like in Mega Man.

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<v Speaker 3>It's the kind of music that kicks in in Mega

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<v Speaker 3>Man when you like enter the chamber to fight Spark Mandroll,

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<v Speaker 3>don't you know what I mean. Like, it's like it

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<v Speaker 3>picks up the tempo and it's like really trying to

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<v Speaker 3>get your blood pumping now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, it is pretty relentless. At the end of

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<v Speaker 2>the day, we know this can only go down one way.

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<v Speaker 2>They may be Masters of Death, but they are not

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<v Speaker 2>going to come out on top against okami Eto. His

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<v Speaker 2>his skill and his heart is just too powerful for

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<v Speaker 2>them to overcome. So he stylishly defeats one of the

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<v Speaker 2>three brothers, then the other of the three brothers, and

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<v Speaker 2>finally it's a He's squaring off with the final of

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<v Speaker 2>the Masters of Death. This is the guy with the

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<v Speaker 2>claws claws. Yeah, yeah, and you know they have a

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<v Speaker 2>nice back and forth and then ultimately Lone Wolf cuts

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<v Speaker 2>him on the neck with this like perfect cut. That

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<v Speaker 2>and the spray, the arterial spray out of this cut

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<v Speaker 2>is like a fine mist. This part of the of

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<v Speaker 2>the film that this is another like just super weird,

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<v Speaker 2>great moment. And it's like this serene eroticism of death.

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<v Speaker 2>A cut so perfect that one's life blood leaves the

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<v Speaker 2>body in a kind of like high pressure howling mist

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<v Speaker 2>like a dream. Such a cuts like the ultimate aspiration

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<v Speaker 2>of any killer. And oh the irony. The master of

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<v Speaker 2>death himself dies by this cut without ever getting to

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<v Speaker 2>inflict its perfection himself.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there's a line in the film where they're talking

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<v Speaker 3>about about like the sound of a winter wind blowing

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<v Speaker 3>or something.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he says, I have the quote here when cut

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<v Speaker 2>across the neck, a sound like wailing winter winds is heard.

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<v Speaker 2>They say, I'd always hope to cut someone like that

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<v Speaker 2>someday to hear that sound, but to have it happen

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<v Speaker 2>to my own neck is ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 3>Ridiculous, It's wonderful. But doesn't he also say something like

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<v Speaker 3>he's like it was an honor to have been killed

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<v Speaker 3>by you. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, because again, if you want to have your next sliced,

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<v Speaker 2>this is the guy you want doing it. You want

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<v Speaker 2>it in the hands.

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<v Speaker 3>Of a master. Oh but then we also do in

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<v Speaker 3>a kind of anti climactic way, we get to see

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<v Speaker 3>a lone wolf doing a grizzly finish to his contract,

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<v Speaker 3>and then the movie's just kind of over.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Yeah, we get like one final line from the boy.

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<v Speaker 2>He says, what I guess, I wish it was different,

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<v Speaker 2>But a wish is only a wish.

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<v Speaker 3>No justice for the Showgun.

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<v Speaker 2>No again, if you if you were attracted to this

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<v Speaker 2>film because you thought a showgun was going to be assassinated, No,

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't happen. And the character that is labeled the showgun,

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<v Speaker 2>he also does not get his come uppance in this film.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it ultimately happens later on in the series,

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<v Speaker 2>but played by a different actor. Yeah, but now I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of want to finish that journey. I'm going to

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<v Speaker 2>have to, you know, on my own time, go through

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<v Speaker 2>the next four of these pictures. I enjoy the first

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<v Speaker 2>two and of course Showgun Assassin so much.

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<v Speaker 3>Well that sounds great. I might have to check them

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<v Speaker 3>out too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a fun ride, a demon ride to hell.

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<v Speaker 3>Oh hey, but one last thought. I think I said

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<v Speaker 3>this earlier, but even if you don't watch this movie,

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<v Speaker 3>which you know it's a hyper violent kind of thing,

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<v Speaker 3>it might not be your style, and that's fine. I

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<v Speaker 3>would recommend checking out the soundtrack if you can. The

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<v Speaker 3>music is great, especially if you love synthesizer stuff.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely to terrific score. But I have to warn you

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<v Speaker 2>the score, it may suck you in. The Next thing,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, you're watching Showgun Assassin, then you're watching the

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<v Speaker 2>Lone Wolf and Cup series. That's how it gets started.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, Well, this was a lot of fun. I'd

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<v Speaker 2>love to hear from everyone out there. I know we

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<v Speaker 2>have listeners who are very well acquainted with the Lone

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<v Speaker 2>Wolf and Cup series and are more familiar with the

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<v Speaker 2>Samurai and Ninja pictures than we are. So hey, write in,

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<v Speaker 2>thoughts on Shogun Assassin, Lone Wolf and Cub the series. Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>I have not, so I don't have any familiarity with it,

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<v Speaker 2>but of course it is considered legendary in its own right.

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<v Speaker 2>in December, so you know what that means. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>get at least one Christmas movie in there? Is it

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<v Speaker 2>gonna have Santa in it? Can make no promises. Will

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<v Speaker 2>there be a Christmas tree somewhere in the background of

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<v Speaker 2>a scene? Probably that's probably probably how it's going.

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<v Speaker 4>To go down.

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<v Speaker 3>Has it been a year since I come in?

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<v Speaker 2>Piece it has? Yeah? That was our Christmas action film

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<v Speaker 2>from last year. Wasn't it that one had Christmas music

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<v Speaker 2>in it?

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<v Speaker 3>I think it was.

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<v Speaker 2>Christmas was more a part of the texture of the

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<v Speaker 2>picture than some people give it credit.

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