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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it's a TGIF edition of Texans All Acts

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Speaker 1: sess from Mounday Texans Radio Studio John Harris and Mark

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Speaker 1: Bannamir on this Friday. Mark, it is good to be

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Speaker 1: back together. I just have to go ahead and say it.

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Speaker 1: How are you, my man? Doing great? Johnny? And yeah,

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Speaker 1: we haven't been in the actual Hunday Texans Radio studio

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Speaker 1: Full disclosure here, CBSTV has our studio for the visit

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Speaker 1: of the Final four teams as they're doing interviews from

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Speaker 1: there and stuff. So we've been kind enough to actually

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Speaker 1: we were forced to let them use it. Long story,

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Speaker 1: but it's no, it's good stuff as it's a great

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Speaker 1: showcase to the city, as you know, my friend. But

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Speaker 1: we'll be back in studio soon enough. Okay, So what's

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Speaker 1: in there? What's in our studio right now? Because I

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Speaker 1: remember twenty sixteen when I took over our radio studio,

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Speaker 1: they gave it to the mascots, So what's in our studio?

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Speaker 1: What's in our studio this time? More than that? Okay,

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Speaker 1: it's it's an actually useful thing. The good thing is

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Speaker 1: it forced us to clean up the studio. Now I

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Speaker 1: know how you are, Johnny, you with your O C D.

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Speaker 1: And it's I always say, I think I've said this

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Speaker 1: around Elane and you're you're in the studio, like this

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Speaker 1: place is not exactly sterile a right, it could be worse,

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Speaker 1: like a swap on mash. You know, the studio a

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Speaker 1: lot of people use it, that kind of thing. Anyway,

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Speaker 1: it forced us to really clean it out. They're doing

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Speaker 1: interviews from there. They have a little chair and so

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Speaker 1: I think they bring in a coach or a player

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Speaker 1: from time to time. Whatever they're doing the setups. So

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Speaker 1: when they cut to and it was a long journey

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Speaker 1: to get here, and you'll have Jim Larenega saying it

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Speaker 1: just do it for that kind of stuff that you'll

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Speaker 1: see on the CBS broadcast. By the way, my friend,

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Speaker 1: happy birthday, Johnny. I'm not gonna saying I'm gonna spare

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Speaker 1: everybody that happy birthday. Well, I appreciate it, man, thank

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Speaker 1: you very much. Yeah, the big five one today. You

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Speaker 1: mentioned Lara Aga. You used to be the voice of

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Speaker 1: the Hurricanes, and they are now in the Final four,

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Speaker 1: and they've had a tremendous run. There's a part of

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Speaker 1: me they wish is they would play fau because you

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Speaker 1: get the South Florida angle, or they're playing in San

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Speaker 1: Diego State, because that would be a contrasted styles. Instead,

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Speaker 1: they get probably the highest team in the tournament in Yukon.

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Speaker 1: But just in particular Miami playing in a final four.

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Speaker 1: This was a program for people. This goes back aways.

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Speaker 1: They had Rick Berry back in the sixties and he's

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Speaker 1: one of the great players, Hall of Fame player, but

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Speaker 1: then their program was dormant. They didn't have a program

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Speaker 1: as you know college basketball is really picking up, there's

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Speaker 1: no basketball program at the University of Miami now. Obviously

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Speaker 1: it's almost forty years later, but the fact that Miami

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Speaker 1: is playing in a Final four and it's taking place

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Speaker 1: in Houston, Ay, what does it mean to you having

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Speaker 1: it means to the people of Miami that they're playing

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Speaker 1: in a basketball Final four. I don't know if it

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Speaker 1: means enough to them, Honestly, Johnny, when I was there,

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Speaker 1: we were pretty good in the Big East, right, want

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Speaker 1: to share of the Big East regular season title. In

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Speaker 1: two thousand and we'd have trouble drawing people. Playing at

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Speaker 1: Miami Arena. There'd be two thousand people there, but it

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Speaker 1: It was hard to get people to come to the building.

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Speaker 1: Now they have the on campus building. That's a lot better.

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Speaker 1: Acc Okay, I get it. You have more brand names,

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Speaker 1: transplanted New Yorkers. But you're right, they were dormant. Leonard

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Speaker 1: When I was there, they went to a Sweet sixteen.

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Speaker 1: phenomenal for them, and it's funny with me personally. Not

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Speaker 1: the MAC back then. But Larenega has been around a

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Speaker 1: long time and he deserves this. I'm very happy for

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Speaker 1: just great for Houston to have that great showcase here. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: San Diego, stay taking on FAU and then you got

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Speaker 1: think that could be a tremendous game. It's hard to

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Speaker 1: And oh, by the way, God, what's his first name.

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Speaker 1: It's a it's a unique first name. I think it's

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Speaker 1: Noom chod omare. Number fifteen. I want Nick Kissio to

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Speaker 1: player in the court. He's the X factor from Miami's

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Speaker 1: Now he's the Colts tight end. I want Nick to

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Speaker 1: He's the most accurate quarterback I've ever played against. It's

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Speaker 1: They spend all their time in college. Sometimes they don't

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Speaker 1: D like draft and then e K. I think that's

426
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Speaker 1: what it is because that's how it's in my internet browser.

427
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Speaker 1: I just start d R A and it knows what

428
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Speaker 1: to do after that. So I think it's draft Tech

429
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Speaker 1: and that's the way I use. Yeah, draft, draft t

430
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Speaker 1: e K and it'll come up with the draft value chart.

431
00:22:06,000 --> 00:22:08,320
Speaker 1: That's that's what I use. And I think a lot

432
00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:09,840
Speaker 1: of teams will use it. Now they've got a couple

433
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Speaker 1: of versions of it, but that's the one I just

434
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Speaker 1: use for quick math. So draft t K, get the

435
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Speaker 1: Draft Value chart, and then I t L. That's in

436
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Speaker 1: the lab. It's time for Drew Doherty and I in

437
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: the lab. Now. I just finally got my voice back. Yeah,

438
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 1: it's okay. And I've also been traveling too, because I've

439
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:29,560
Speaker 1: been out at Pro Day's. I went to Baylar on Monday.

440
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Speaker 1: I went to a m on Tuesday, and I was

441
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Speaker 1: thinking about going to TCU today and I've never been

442
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Speaker 1: to TCU in any way, shape or form. I've never

443
00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,120
Speaker 1: seen a game there. I've never been in the campus

444
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,159
Speaker 1: and I was like, man, that's a long way. And

445
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,720
Speaker 1: then I got to do live radio. I'm not gonna

446
00:22:45,720 --> 00:22:47,000
Speaker 1: make it back and I just figured, you know what,

447
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: I got to do live radio, so I'll just I'll

448
00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:50,399
Speaker 1: pass on. Although TCU would have been the better of

449
00:22:50,400 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: the of any of them to go to see Quentin Johnston,

450
00:22:53,560 --> 00:22:56,680
Speaker 1: to see Max Dug and throw see Dug and throw too, Max,

451
00:22:56,760 --> 00:23:00,840
Speaker 1: Quintin Johnston. They've got some dbs. Trevias High. Just Thomlinson

452
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:05,040
Speaker 1: is a player a villa at guard or center, and

453
00:23:05,119 --> 00:23:09,440
Speaker 1: that's interesting because he took some reps at the Senior

454
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,439
Speaker 1: Bullets center. There's been a lot of talk about him

455
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:16,280
Speaker 1: potentially going to center. And I don't know if there's

456
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Speaker 1: a team that you and I both know that might

457
00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,840
Speaker 1: need some help on the interior, it's center. I don't know.

458
00:23:22,040 --> 00:23:24,480
Speaker 1: So I know my bees that I coached the baseball team,

459
00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: they're they're good at center. We don't have a center

460
00:23:26,520 --> 00:23:29,560
Speaker 1: on the team, but I don't think we need one either, Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay,

461
00:23:29,680 --> 00:23:32,040
Speaker 1: Well it's something to think about, of course, but there

462
00:23:32,200 --> 00:23:33,480
Speaker 1: would have been there would have been some players to

463
00:23:33,480 --> 00:23:35,800
Speaker 1: see a TCU for sure, But that that drive and

464
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:37,960
Speaker 1: then I just I couldn't do it. And I didn't

465
00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,679
Speaker 1: want to pass on live radio tonight on Thursday night

466
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Speaker 1: because Mark will be back from the annual meetings aka

467
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: the owners meetings, and so I was like, all that considered,

468
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:51,359
Speaker 1: you know, you're being sick me on the road. I

469
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Speaker 1: figured this is the best day to do it, on Thursday.

470
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Speaker 1: So it's all good, man. I hope you're feeling well though.

471
00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:59,160
Speaker 1: You sound okay, So it's just good. It's a good step. Yeah,

472
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Speaker 1: I think it's all the paw. Then you know, the

473
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:04,080
Speaker 1: two peak pecan trees in my backyard are sprouting their leaves,

474
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:07,280
Speaker 1: and I think it's just like that. And then I

475
00:24:07,440 --> 00:24:11,000
Speaker 1: was so, I'm the head coach, uh, you know, pulling

476
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Speaker 1: back the curt here, I'm the head coach of my

477
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Speaker 1: first grader, Oliver's baseball team, and you know, I coached

478
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Speaker 1: third base, and so I'm yelling, not yelling at the kids,

479
00:24:23,280 --> 00:24:25,879
Speaker 1: but yelling to the kids, encouraging. I think I'm a

480
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Speaker 1: positive influence. And so I lost my voice after that game.

481
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,359
Speaker 1: It was totally gone. And then the day after I

482
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,919
Speaker 1: was squeaking like Peter Brady for the Brady Bunch. So

483
00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,960
Speaker 1: I just had to had to shut it down. But um, yeah,

484
00:24:39,960 --> 00:24:44,520
Speaker 1: I'm glad because you have been to a lot of

485
00:24:44,560 --> 00:24:46,760
Speaker 1: them over the years, I've been to a few, and

486
00:24:46,920 --> 00:24:50,240
Speaker 1: we've been together to a few over the years, and

487
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,879
Speaker 1: they just aren't like they used to be. But really, John,

488
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:58,680
Speaker 1: they're not as important probably as people make them out

489
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Speaker 1: to be. Would you agree with that? I agree with that.

490
00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 1: I think they're absolutely and I've become even more so

491
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Speaker 1: in it. And I don't know, it's just kind of

492
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Speaker 1: coincided with everything that was going on with Bryce Young

493
00:25:10,000 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 1: and c J. Stroud and of course Anthy Richardson will

494
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: throw on Friday today or Friday came or which day

495
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Speaker 1: it is, and that shows you there's just you know,

496
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Speaker 1: there's certain things you can see it a pro day,

497
00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,200
Speaker 1: and they're just certain things you're not going to see.

498
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Speaker 1: And I'll be honest, the scouts go there, and I

499
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:32,280
Speaker 1: think they feel the need to go there because they

500
00:25:32,280 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 1: don't want to miss something. But for the most part,

501
00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:38,800
Speaker 1: they already know what they're looking at. They already know

502
00:25:38,840 --> 00:25:41,680
Speaker 1: what they're seeing. They've been in that campus probably three times,

503
00:25:41,680 --> 00:25:43,840
Speaker 1: and especially if it's a Baylor A and M like

504
00:25:43,880 --> 00:25:46,240
Speaker 1: I went to, they've been to that campus. They've talked

505
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Speaker 1: to the coaches, they've talked to the strength staff, they

506
00:25:48,240 --> 00:25:50,160
Speaker 1: talked to medical staff, they've talked to all those people.

507
00:25:50,440 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: They know what to expect. They're gonna be shocked if

508
00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:57,760
Speaker 1: something is not you know, is out of whack a

509
00:25:57,760 --> 00:26:01,480
Speaker 1: little bit. And I know, you know, people say, well,

510
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,280
Speaker 1: you know, general maners don't get to do that. Yeah, Nick,

511
00:26:03,400 --> 00:26:06,080
Speaker 1: Nick travels to take Nick for instance, Nick travels a

512
00:26:06,080 --> 00:26:07,880
Speaker 1: lot and travels to a lot of games. Nick does

513
00:26:07,920 --> 00:26:10,280
Speaker 1: a lot of scouts work during the year. I mean,

514
00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,520
Speaker 1: he sees these guys live a lot. Now, he doesn't

515
00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 1: do all the scouts work, but that's what he realizes

516
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: on the scouts for. And when it comes to a

517
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:23,199
Speaker 1: quarterbacks pro day, that's even more. Okay, great threw the

518
00:26:23,240 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 1: ball against air fantastically. Yeay, all right, don't care because

519
00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: that's not going to matter in the grand scheme of things.

520
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,120
Speaker 1: How he throws it on air. Yeah, you can see

521
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:37,160
Speaker 1: the you know, the ball velocity and things like that.

522
00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 1: But these guys they go through the script. They go

523
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: through they practice the script day after day after day

524
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Speaker 1: after day. And we know football of anything, especially if

525
00:26:45,920 --> 00:26:48,520
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, is not how you respond to the

526
00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,399
Speaker 1: script of the fifteen plays, but how you respond to

527
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:55,440
Speaker 1: the way the defense is adapting to you and your script. So, yeah,

528
00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:57,399
Speaker 1: it's fun to watch guys throw the football. And I

529
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Speaker 1: love Pro Day because of that. I love because it's

530
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Speaker 1: a it's a football environment. All scouts are there, you know,

531
00:27:02,359 --> 00:27:05,040
Speaker 1: it's fun to just kind of be there. Yeah, but

532
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:08,239
Speaker 1: that's it. As far as the information you get from that,

533
00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: it's limited. Limited. I will say. I will admit there

534
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:17,679
Speaker 1: are there's the one or two guys every year and

535
00:27:17,760 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 1: maybe you know combined four or five schools that has

536
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:24,400
Speaker 1: an opportunity where you're you know, he's intriguing, is all

537
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,840
Speaker 1: get out, and then one of the test pops for you.

538
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:30,439
Speaker 1: And I'll give you a great example that Colin Gillespia.

539
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 1: When I went to m Pro Day and whatever Colin

540
00:27:33,680 --> 00:27:36,360
Speaker 1: was coming out I think nineteen. I was standing back

541
00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:37,840
Speaker 1: behind the way. They had to set up a standing

542
00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:39,720
Speaker 1: back behind a barrier and it was just to the

543
00:27:39,840 --> 00:27:41,640
Speaker 1: left of the forty yard dash. I was back there

544
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:46,760
Speaker 1: talking to Billy Lucci, who runs tech Acts basically, and

545
00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:49,560
Speaker 1: Lucia I go way back and we're talking and we're

546
00:27:49,560 --> 00:27:51,680
Speaker 1: just gotta chat and calling its up there and he

547
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,760
Speaker 1: runs his forty and he gets done with it. We're like, right, Mike, conversation,

548
00:27:55,840 --> 00:27:59,399
Speaker 1: I kind of nudge billion like that's really good. I

549
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:02,320
Speaker 1: don't know what he ran, but that's pretty good. And

550
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,560
Speaker 1: so then also that started kind of filtering back to us.

551
00:28:04,560 --> 00:28:06,560
Speaker 1: They ran into four five Ranch and I was like, Bill, yeah,

552
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,440
Speaker 1: that's gonna get him drafted, Like whoa, I didn't think

553
00:28:09,480 --> 00:28:12,720
Speaker 1: he had that juice. And then he did it again.

554
00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:14,360
Speaker 1: He ran I think I like a four or five

555
00:28:14,400 --> 00:28:17,040
Speaker 1: one four five two at two hundred and thirty pounds

556
00:28:17,119 --> 00:28:19,240
Speaker 1: or whatever he was. Those are the kind of players

557
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:23,119
Speaker 1: where you know that that's Pro day for you. That's

558
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,680
Speaker 1: you know, the one guy that you maybe think is athletic,

559
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,840
Speaker 1: but you don't think he's that fast. It's probably one

560
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:34,280
Speaker 1: or two amongst probably four or five schools every year

561
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: that you have one of those guys. Yeah, you watched him,

562
00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,320
Speaker 1: you studied him. He does some things. Maybe he's a

563
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: guy that plays a couple of positions, doesn't really have

564
00:28:42,000 --> 00:28:44,280
Speaker 1: a position, does a few different things, does some things

565
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:46,960
Speaker 1: of special teams, but you're just not totally sure because

566
00:28:47,000 --> 00:28:49,600
Speaker 1: you just don't have enough on him. You don't know

567
00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 1: how the team is gonna use him, but you know

568
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 1: your team could use him. And so those are the

569
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,520
Speaker 1: kind of guys it's fun for a m had five

570
00:28:57,640 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 1: guys at this pro day. It was we year. It's

571
00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:04,400
Speaker 1: such a young team, and Baylor had a bunch of guys,

572
00:29:05,160 --> 00:29:08,200
Speaker 1: but really, I don't think anybody that's going to end

573
00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:10,479
Speaker 1: up being drafted minus a couple of guys that had

574
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:12,920
Speaker 1: already worked out at the Combine. So it was just

575
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,440
Speaker 1: one of those years where it just wasn't loaded with

576
00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:18,360
Speaker 1: those kind of guys. Hey, let me, hey, let me

577
00:29:18,440 --> 00:29:21,680
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. Sorry to interrupt, but you

578
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:25,520
Speaker 1: always see NFL scouts at these things, and sometimes you

579
00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:29,640
Speaker 1: see Canadian Football League scouts as well. Are you seeing

580
00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 1: some of that? And then on top of that, are

581
00:29:31,960 --> 00:29:34,800
Speaker 1: you seeing any XFL USFL scouts? Do they even have

582
00:29:34,960 --> 00:29:37,480
Speaker 1: that sort of representation? What's what's going on with that?

583
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 1: I don't recall seeing any XFL USFL. I don't recall,

584
00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,000
Speaker 1: but I do remember seeing and I can't remember which

585
00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:47,320
Speaker 1: one it may have been. At both I did see

586
00:29:47,320 --> 00:29:49,840
Speaker 1: the Winnipeg Blue Bombers at one of them. Yeah, they're

587
00:29:49,840 --> 00:29:52,800
Speaker 1: always there's always one or two, yes, and at the

588
00:29:52,840 --> 00:29:56,960
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl absolutely Pro days there's always at least one, two,

589
00:29:57,080 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 1: sometimes more Canadian football And I always find that asking

590
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: they're working every angle. You know, They're not there at

591
00:30:03,720 --> 00:30:06,200
Speaker 1: South Carolina in twenty fourteen thinking that they're gonna get

592
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:09,280
Speaker 1: won Clowney. But they might pluck some of these guys

593
00:30:09,280 --> 00:30:12,960
Speaker 1: that are fringe draftable guys, you know, absolutely, And I

594
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: think Baylor and A and M would have been good

595
00:30:14,400 --> 00:30:16,520
Speaker 1: ones for them to be at. And I do remember

596
00:30:16,560 --> 00:30:21,240
Speaker 1: seeing Winnipeg now because of the resource availability, I don't

597
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,800
Speaker 1: know what it is for the CFL, but they may have.

598
00:30:23,960 --> 00:30:25,840
Speaker 1: You know how we have like a pool reporter at

599
00:30:25,880 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl where there's one reporter that goes and

600
00:30:28,920 --> 00:30:32,360
Speaker 1: ask the questions, yeah, whatever, and then that guy at

601
00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:35,440
Speaker 1: a pool scout, right, it's like a pool scout where

602
00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 1: he or she goes in, gets all the information, then

603
00:30:38,440 --> 00:30:39,920
Speaker 1: shares it with the rest of the CFL. Could be that,

604
00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 1: but I have seen the CFL now. I don't recall

605
00:30:42,840 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 1: seeing XFL USFL. I don't I don't recall, so I

606
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:50,280
Speaker 1: don't know how they go about, you know, doing that.

607
00:30:50,320 --> 00:30:52,600
Speaker 1: It would be wise for them to do it. And

608
00:30:52,680 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: again to have maybe a pool scout, you know, one hey,

609
00:30:55,880 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 1: one scout that you know, kind of covers the area

610
00:30:58,560 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: that is going to hit all of them and then

611
00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,360
Speaker 1: share it with all the different teams. Um they're already

612
00:31:02,440 --> 00:31:04,320
Speaker 1: kind of sharing resources in those leagues anyway, So I mean,

613
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: I think there would be a wise way to do it.

614
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: The one thing about the CFL two is I've noticed

615
00:31:08,760 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 1: one of the things I started doing Drew is I

616
00:31:10,800 --> 00:31:13,719
Speaker 1: in my in my draft database where I keep everything

617
00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 1: on my notes, everything, I've started putting where these players

618
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: are from high school. Because sometimes when I put their

619
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: high school and find their high school, like oh, I've

620
00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: seen this guy, or you know, like a lot of

621
00:31:24,040 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 1: I used, I watched a lot of Modern Day. So

622
00:31:26,040 --> 00:31:29,320
Speaker 1: that's why I've watched Bryce Young forever, because there were

623
00:31:29,320 --> 00:31:31,720
Speaker 1: a time modern Day. It was one in Saint John

624
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,160
Speaker 1: Bosco was two in the country and they were bad

625
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:35,479
Speaker 1: ahead great games, and so you can get you can

626
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:38,440
Speaker 1: get their kind of highlight version games on YouTube, and

627
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:40,400
Speaker 1: so you would see guys. I would see guys Eli

628
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 1: Ricks My Alabama, Bryce Young, then masse Funa is a

629
00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 1: guy that's at Oregon. He's a twenty twenty four candidate.

630
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: But you would see these guys and I'm like, oh, yeah,

631
00:31:49,080 --> 00:31:51,239
Speaker 1: he's from modern Day. Or you see a guy from

632
00:31:51,280 --> 00:31:53,640
Speaker 1: Texas like Jackson Smith and Jigba. I did not realize

633
00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:55,640
Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jib was from Texas and still I

634
00:31:55,920 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 1: until I've kind of put his information in database, so

635
00:31:58,280 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: I started doing that. What I have found owned is

636
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Speaker 1: that there are a number of players from Canada that

637
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:08,680
Speaker 1: are in my database. Tavis Robinson from out Old miss

638
00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,760
Speaker 1: the two Browns, Sydney and Chase from out of Illinois.

639
00:32:11,960 --> 00:32:14,320
Speaker 1: They're from Canada. And there are a few others as

640
00:32:14,320 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 1: well that are from Canada. And if you're in the

641
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: CFL and you're making your draft, there are rules on

642
00:32:21,440 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 1: how many stateside players you can have versus how many

643
00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 1: Canadians you can have or a Canadian connection, and so

644
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 1: those players have a little bit of a leg up

645
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 1: in the CFL as well, and the CFL knows it

646
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:33,680
Speaker 1: has a leg up on those players too. But it

647
00:32:33,720 --> 00:32:36,080
Speaker 1: feels like we're getting more and more players that are

648
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,280
Speaker 1: coming from Canada down here to the States to play

649
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:40,840
Speaker 1: college football, and that's gonna I think in the end

650
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,280
Speaker 1: those guys could play. Now, the Browns and Rabinson, they'll

651
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: all be in the NFL, but at some point if

652
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,920
Speaker 1: things don't go well, then go to the CFL. And

653
00:32:48,000 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 1: it helps the CFL team because they're Canadian, they're of

654
00:32:51,320 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 1: Canadian descent, so that helps them in the long run.

655
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Speaker 1: It's always fascinated me, and I think you're probably in

656
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:59,280
Speaker 1: the same boat too. But you know, growing up in Houston,

657
00:32:59,440 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 1: Warren move and came from the CFLA when I was

658
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: a little guy, Doug Flutie won the Heisman. Made you know, he's, like,

659
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: what the greatest CFL player of all time? Probably Doug Flutie.

660
00:33:11,560 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 1: He was over there. And then when I was in

661
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,320
Speaker 1: Lubbock five to nine in five, plain View High School

662
00:33:18,360 --> 00:33:21,360
Speaker 1: had this phenomenal team. They went I think three rounds

663
00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:22,960
Speaker 1: deep in the playoffs, and they had a player named

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Speaker 1: Jamar Wall. He was a running back, he was a

665
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:30,000
Speaker 1: defensive back. He returned punts, I think he punted. He

666
00:33:30,080 --> 00:33:32,200
Speaker 1: just did it all. He was a phenomenal player. And

667
00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:34,920
Speaker 1: I went to his signing. He signed with Texas Tech.

668
00:33:34,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 1: He played immediately in six seven eight. He was a

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Speaker 1: kickoff returner and then he got I don't know if

670
00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 1: he got drafted or not, but he started with the

671
00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 1: Cowboys got let go, but he was here with the

672
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:50,560
Speaker 1: Texans I think for a game or two in two

673
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,640
Speaker 1: thousan ten. So like I saw him play in high school,

674
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,280
Speaker 1: in college and with the Texans, which's the only guy

675
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:59,320
Speaker 1: that that's ever happened with. Yeah, it was just it

676
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,520
Speaker 1: was just weird. But he wound up going on to

677
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,520
Speaker 1: the CFL. He might still be playing in the cflum

678
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: he might have just retired too, but I don't know. Anyways,

679
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 1: the CFL, basically, it's always fascinated me. And it's always

680
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:16,800
Speaker 1: fascinated me seeing their representation at these you know, evaluations,

681
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:19,600
Speaker 1: at these pro days, at these Senior Bowls, and you know,

682
00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:21,200
Speaker 1: that's just one of those funds. And then he had

683
00:34:21,280 --> 00:34:23,680
Speaker 1: Danny Barrett. He's a running backs coach here fill Texas

684
00:34:23,680 --> 00:34:27,080
Speaker 1: and has been you know here for a while, but

685
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: he's one of the best CFL players ever. He was

686
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: a coach in the CFL. So there's all sorts of

687
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 1: little mini connections that we you and I both have

688
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: with that league, and I find it fascinating. I was

689
00:34:38,160 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: listening to this podcast last summer. Last summer, I think

690
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,759
Speaker 1: it was it was Sean McVay and Peter Schreger. They

691
00:34:43,800 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 1: would have various, um, you know, coaches from throughout the league,

692
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,799
Speaker 1: and they had Zach Taylor on. I think it was that. Yeah,

693
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:53,759
Speaker 1: Zach Taylor and he had played Nebraska and he was

694
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:56,520
Speaker 1: telling stories about playing in the CFL and it was

695
00:34:56,520 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: just it was fascinating. I mean, you'd be surprised. Remember

696
00:34:58,480 --> 00:35:02,759
Speaker 1: de Vere Posey if you're exactly yes, Texans in and

697
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,360
Speaker 1: he's one of the better receivers CFLs had. So it

698
00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:09,719
Speaker 1: gives yep, it gives guys an opportunity to continue to

699
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,960
Speaker 1: play and you know, make some money doing it. And

700
00:35:12,200 --> 00:35:14,919
Speaker 1: you know, the Canadian game is so different. But here's

701
00:35:14,920 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: the other thing. Yeah, they're at Pro days, you know,

702
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: the scouts are at Pro Days. They're also at our

703
00:35:18,480 --> 00:35:21,440
Speaker 1: training camp. Yep, they come to our training camp. I mean,

704
00:35:21,480 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 1: I can't tell you the number of times the formerly

705
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:27,680
Speaker 1: known as the Eskimos now the Elks um. I've seen

706
00:35:27,719 --> 00:35:29,920
Speaker 1: their scouts with that double E on their hat. A

707
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:33,040
Speaker 1: bunch of Winnipeg's been there. I've seen Ottawa. So they

708
00:35:33,040 --> 00:35:35,640
Speaker 1: come to our training camp because they're looking for players

709
00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,879
Speaker 1: that might end up not making the roster that they

710
00:35:37,880 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 1: can make a play on and bring to their And

711
00:35:40,320 --> 00:35:44,920
Speaker 1: at that time training camp time, they're getting near their playoffs, yeah, um,

712
00:35:45,280 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 1: or near the end of the season the playoffs, so

713
00:35:47,280 --> 00:35:49,680
Speaker 1: they're They're always on top of it. I just think

714
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,560
Speaker 1: the more you know, there's some you know, some people say, well,

715
00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 1: you know why you have these leagues and because look,

716
00:35:54,239 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 1: you might get one, two, maybe even three guys um

717
00:35:57,280 --> 00:35:59,439
Speaker 1: to come out of those leagues that end up making

718
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 1: a career out I mean, I think of the World League.

719
00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,680
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, shoot, Kurt Warrener was a Hall

720
00:36:03,680 --> 00:36:07,480
Speaker 1: of Famer, yam playing in Amsterdam and ends up being

721
00:36:07,520 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: a Hall of Famer. You know that those leagues produce

722
00:36:10,440 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 1: a player or two that you don't see comment that

723
00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,719
Speaker 1: gets an opportunity for whatever reason, it makes the most

724
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,279
Speaker 1: of it, and I'm all for it. I love it.

725
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:21,439
Speaker 1: I got I'm on a group text with my high

726
00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,239
Speaker 1: school some of my high school friends and one of them,

727
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,880
Speaker 1: one of them was bashing the USFL a few weeks back.

728
00:36:25,920 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 1: I was like, are you Hayden who cares? Man like to?

729
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:31,440
Speaker 1: There's your point, John, that you just maathe like you

730
00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:33,359
Speaker 1: might get a few players that wind up making it,

731
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 1: But you know what, they have guys like you, Guys

732
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:39,680
Speaker 1: like me, coaches, other players who are getting to work

733
00:36:39,680 --> 00:36:43,359
Speaker 1: in sports and getting to you know, chase a dream

734
00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:45,680
Speaker 1: as opposed to just doing a nine to five job

735
00:36:45,719 --> 00:36:47,759
Speaker 1: that they might might have to do were they not

736
00:36:47,800 --> 00:36:51,000
Speaker 1: doing this. So I'm I'm all for that because you know,

737
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: it's somebody getting to work in sports and do something

738
00:36:53,200 --> 00:36:56,480
Speaker 1: fun and you know, make a living for a little bit,

739
00:36:56,520 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: maybe longer in something that they love. So I'm I'm

740
00:37:00,640 --> 00:37:03,720
Speaker 1: all for it. I support it. More leagues the better.

741
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 1: Let's go get them, you know, got it, absolutely and

742
00:37:07,280 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 1: bring all those scouts. Man. Absolutely, I I here here

743
00:37:11,239 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: was the pro day. I mean, I love I was

744
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:15,080
Speaker 1: getting out of town for a little bit, so I

745
00:37:15,400 --> 00:37:17,200
Speaker 1: love that. And of course you make the drive and

746
00:37:17,680 --> 00:37:19,680
Speaker 1: you know, down to you know, up to Waco into

747
00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:22,319
Speaker 1: College Station and it's just you know, as they like

748
00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:24,080
Speaker 1: to say, it's God's country and it's just a really

749
00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:26,719
Speaker 1: it's a really pretty drive. So like doing that and

750
00:37:26,800 --> 00:37:28,920
Speaker 1: getting out of Dodge for a little bit. But you

751
00:37:29,040 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 1: know how it is it pro day. Once you go

752
00:37:31,480 --> 00:37:34,439
Speaker 1: to a place you want, you know you're done. You're like, man,

753
00:37:34,480 --> 00:37:36,640
Speaker 1: it gets done like one thirty two o'clock. You know, man,

754
00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,680
Speaker 1: I'm starving. All right, We're in Waco. Let's go check.

755
00:37:39,800 --> 00:37:44,239
Speaker 1: Let's get some barbecue. Man, And you know this, man,

756
00:37:44,280 --> 00:37:47,760
Speaker 1: we've gone and gotten the gut pack from VTEX and

757
00:37:48,040 --> 00:37:50,440
Speaker 1: we sit there. It's just it's a blast because everybody

758
00:37:50,440 --> 00:37:52,479
Speaker 1: from the pro days in there. It's just it's really cool.

759
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,080
Speaker 1: You see a lot of scouts in there. So I

760
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,759
Speaker 1: know I'm on my own, but I'm like, i gotta

761
00:37:56,800 --> 00:38:00,680
Speaker 1: get some some BBQ. So I go to where I

762
00:38:00,760 --> 00:38:04,200
Speaker 1: know VTEX is. It's on the way because the prote

763
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 1: it was not at Baylor. They were doing construction, same

764
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,239
Speaker 1: as A and M. They were doing constructions. So it

765
00:38:08,320 --> 00:38:11,719
Speaker 1: was actually a Waco Midway High and Jackson player who's

766
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:14,680
Speaker 1: a defensive tackle for Baylor that apparently they were kidding

767
00:38:14,760 --> 00:38:16,320
Speaker 1: him like, oh dude, you got a home field advantage

768
00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 1: because that's where he played in high school. And this

769
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,240
Speaker 1: is high school with an indoor one hundred yard field.

770
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,919
Speaker 1: It's amazing. Anyways, Wow, So it's actually on my way

771
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,120
Speaker 1: back and I drive by Vtex. I'm like, man, there's

772
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,680
Speaker 1: nobody hear. What the heck? And I go and I look,

773
00:38:28,840 --> 00:38:36,520
Speaker 1: it's permanently closed, getting renovated, not getting renovated, permanently closed.

774
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 1: It must have moved, I don't know, but it was

775
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 1: permanently closed. Listen, I'm not gonna lie. I'm keep a

776
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,680
Speaker 1: hundred on this one. When we go on trips, the

777
00:38:46,800 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 1: eating is the one of the best parts. And there's

778
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:56,719
Speaker 1: no vtex gut pack. I'm just I'm gutted. I'm absolutely gutted,

779
00:38:57,560 --> 00:38:59,560
Speaker 1: but I'm not gutted when it comes to Deep City

780
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,560
Speaker 1: because she has been catching up with writers on all

781
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: of these great first round potential draft picks with Texans.

782
00:39:05,760 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: We'll hit DP two and that potential Texan next right here,

783
00:39:09,680 --> 00:39:12,840
Speaker 1: I'll Texas All Access. We're gonna funnel segment of this

784
00:39:12,920 --> 00:39:15,640
Speaker 1: this Texas All Access. I'm your host, John Harris. Let's

785
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 1: dive right in to our deepsued Deep slant with Alex

786
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: Turrey covers the Clemson Tigers and Miles Murphy Deep take

787
00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:27,240
Speaker 1: it Away. Plenty of recent mock drafts have the Houston

788
00:39:27,280 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 1: Texans selecting Clemson defensive and Miles Murphy with the number

789
00:39:31,080 --> 00:39:34,440
Speaker 1: twelve overall pick. So what do you think makes Murphy

790
00:39:34,600 --> 00:39:37,440
Speaker 1: such a good bit for the Houston Texans? For me,

791
00:39:38,000 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 1: discussing Murphy's been a big I don't understand why some

792
00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: people have him falling as far as they do. If

793
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:46,839
Speaker 1: you look at Trayvon Walker last year, I never would

794
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 1: have imagined going into that process that he'd be the

795
00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,279
Speaker 1: number one pick in that draft. And when I look

796
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,279
Speaker 1: at Murphy and I look at Walker, you have the

797
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,200
Speaker 1: same type of player there, and I think murphy ceiling

798
00:39:56,280 --> 00:40:01,759
Speaker 1: is even higher. You have a really talented, fast, athletic prospect. Yeah,

799
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,160
Speaker 1: he's a little raw, but you've got someone that's going to,

800
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:08,920
Speaker 1: if you have the right coaching staff, be a franchise

801
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:11,840
Speaker 1: changer in a way. He could be a cornerstone to

802
00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:15,880
Speaker 1: a defense. So when discussing Murphy, I just I think

803
00:40:15,960 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 1: people tend to not understand how big of a thing

804
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:23,400
Speaker 1: athleticism has become for these coaching staffs in the NFL now,

805
00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:25,920
Speaker 1: especially with the Texans. I know they typically will run

806
00:40:25,960 --> 00:40:28,399
Speaker 1: that three four if you need to bounce him inside.

807
00:40:28,400 --> 00:40:29,800
Speaker 1: You can bounce him inside and run him out of

808
00:40:29,800 --> 00:40:32,480
Speaker 1: the tackle position if needed. He's six five, two seventy five.

809
00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:34,319
Speaker 1: He hasn't at his pro day yet. I think he's

810
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,879
Speaker 1: been doing an April fourth, but he's possibly four six

811
00:40:37,120 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: speed at defensive end, four or five four six speeds.

812
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 1: So I just think that a guy like Murphy is

813
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:45,920
Speaker 1: a tough guy to assess. If you're looking just based

814
00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 1: off of the player as a whole, what you've seen

815
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:51,279
Speaker 1: out of him, because it's about potential. With Murphy, it's

816
00:40:51,280 --> 00:40:53,239
Speaker 1: about what you can see it in the future. With

817
00:40:53,400 --> 00:40:56,399
Speaker 1: him and guys like that, they're just I mean, how

818
00:40:56,400 --> 00:40:58,440
Speaker 1: many edge rushers run four or five, four six off

819
00:40:58,480 --> 00:41:00,759
Speaker 1: the edge like it's rare, And how many of those

820
00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 1: edge rushers can you push inside if you need to

821
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,560
Speaker 1: run that three four? It's He's a unique player, very

822
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: unique player. Yeah. I know he wasn't able to perform

823
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 1: at the combine, but he did speak of a combine

824
00:41:10,080 --> 00:41:13,160
Speaker 1: and he said his greatest asset he thinks for NFL

825
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:15,360
Speaker 1: teams is going to be his versatility along with the

826
00:41:15,400 --> 00:41:17,640
Speaker 1: power and the speed. So he talked about from three

827
00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: technique to nine technique, that how he can play at all.

828
00:41:20,520 --> 00:41:22,839
Speaker 1: Where do you think he might fit in the best? Yeah,

829
00:41:22,880 --> 00:41:25,640
Speaker 1: so if you have an inside This is the biggest

830
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 1: thing I said about Murphy just hands down going into

831
00:41:28,080 --> 00:41:30,799
Speaker 1: this draft. If he passes, like I've mentioned before, if

832
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:33,279
Speaker 1: he passes number twelve, I would be shocked because I

833
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,240
Speaker 1: think with him, if you're not drafting a guy like Murphy,

834
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 1: you're admitting that you don't trust your coaching staff to

835
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,440
Speaker 1: develop a player. Because when we're talking about going up

836
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,640
Speaker 1: against offensive lineman. We've seen him on the edge continuously

837
00:41:44,719 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: beat people, you know, bully them with power, outrun them

838
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: with speed. He's got it all. But if you want

839
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:52,520
Speaker 1: to play him on the inside, you're going to have

840
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:56,560
Speaker 1: to work with him. He's he's great, but he has

841
00:41:56,800 --> 00:41:59,600
Speaker 1: refining to do. He doesn't utilize his power as well

842
00:41:59,640 --> 00:42:02,000
Speaker 1: as he hood. He doesn't engage as well at the

843
00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,120
Speaker 1: line as you would like him to, just off of

844
00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:06,440
Speaker 1: what I've seen through the past few years of watching him.

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Speaker 1: And it's not that he can't do that stuff, it's

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Speaker 1: just stuff he doesn't do often. So I think he

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Speaker 1: could seriously take advantage of offensive guards if you have

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Speaker 1: the right coaching staff instilling those pass rushing moves into him.

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Speaker 1: But against run defense, it might be a little tough.

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Speaker 1: Against the guards, but he's definitely an edge rusher. He's

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Speaker 1: definitely gonna be taking on tackles. It really is just

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Speaker 1: about refining those extra pass moves, you know, because that

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Speaker 1: spin moves deadly, but you can't you're not gonna get

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Speaker 1: back with a spin move every single rush. You know,

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Speaker 1: You'll you'll see if like a good guy. I like

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Speaker 1: to talk about Murphy is a lot more NFL ready

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Speaker 1: than I think people realize. You look at Aidan Hutchinson

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Speaker 1: from last year and that was a big discussion. It's

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Speaker 1: like Aiden Hutchinson so NFL ready, but watching him throughout

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Speaker 1: the year, he had a great year. But if you

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Speaker 1: watch him play, you see all of the flaws in

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Speaker 1: his game that people don't necessarily pick up on because

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Speaker 1: you know, people like to look for the highlights, people

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Speaker 1: like to look at the good rather than the bad,

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Speaker 1: and I think with Murphy people have tended to do

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Speaker 1: the opposite in a way. Interesting point there from Alex Turry.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate him being on the show with us. All you

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Speaker 1: for listen, will see next time and as always, go Texas.