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Speaker 1: Welcome to NFL Daily, where we never rest our starters.

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Speaker 2: I'm Greg Rosenthal.

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Speaker 1: I'm here in the Chris Westling podcast studio with my

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Speaker 1: friend for the last time in the regular season.

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Speaker 2: But the first time in twenty twenty five. Thank you, Hi.

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Speaker 3: I like the first time better. I'm kind of like

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Speaker 3: a fresh starts than a like sacrifice.

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Speaker 2: Oh but we're not making fresh starts, Cynthia.

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Speaker 1: We're finishing out this season, although I'm bringing you back

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Speaker 1: for twenty twenty five if we can afford you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Let's let's look at the records from last week. That's

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Speaker 1: why I'm talking about not a fresh star. Cynthia went

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Speaker 1: to and one great pick with the Raiders, Cruised loved.

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Speaker 1: I love the Raiders. I'm annoyed I didn't take that

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Speaker 1: the bucks Man even more. Cruise City they covered by

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Speaker 1: about thirty points. You missed on the Rams. So you're

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Speaker 1: two and one twenty seven and twenty four on the season.

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Speaker 1: You're won back of me. I went one and two.

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Speaker 1: I'm now five over on the season. I said before

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Speaker 1: last week that I was so confident in my picks

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Speaker 1: that if I ended up with a one and two

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Speaker 1: I would it would shake my confidence low, but there's

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Speaker 1: an aster.

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Speaker 2: I'm not shook. I was gonna say, I hope not.

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Speaker 1: Even in the slightest because I took two teams in

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Speaker 1: the Broncos and the Falcons, that I thought would win

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Speaker 1: straight up and were both underdogs three to four points.

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Speaker 1: You know what, at the end of sixty minutes they

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Speaker 1: were tied. So you lose your money. I get it,

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Speaker 1: But you don't feel like if you lost on two

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Speaker 1: overtime teams that were underdogs, that you were like on

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Speaker 1: the right wrong side. And by the way, my little

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Speaker 1: extra pick the Gregstra was the Bills, who covered eight

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Speaker 1: and half. I love the Gregtra very easily, so feeling

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Speaker 1: good on and this week I'm feeling good too. My

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Speaker 1: only problem was I have too many games I like.

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Speaker 1: I love Week eighteen. I don't know how you feel

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Speaker 1: about it. But when I was actually betting real money

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Speaker 1: before I could come here, before you worked here, I

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Speaker 1: thought the best weeks of opportunity of the season were

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Speaker 1: weeks one.

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Speaker 2: Two and eighteen.

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Speaker 1: Because there's just the most that I think, there's the

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Speaker 1: most uncertainty that you can feel better about.

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Speaker 3: I would just say you just have to be disciplined

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Speaker 3: because the problem that we have is that we're forced

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Speaker 3: to pick all of the.

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Speaker 2: Games, yes, and on this show, though not.

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Speaker 3: On this show but on Game Day View at other places.

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Speaker 3: So I get frustrated and people like you you should

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Speaker 3: have known better than on Tuesday when your scores came

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Speaker 3: out that blah blah blah. I'm like, didn't you see

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Speaker 3: the update after you told Like, yes, for example, you

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Speaker 3: know Jim Harbaugh could rest the starters after the results

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Speaker 3: of some Saturday games, So again you have to be

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Speaker 3: malleable and flexible, like, just don't pick that one as

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Speaker 3: one of your confidence ones.

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Speaker 1: Yes, So I agree it was a week where things

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Speaker 1: could change. That Chargers example is perfect that if the

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Speaker 1: Bengals win on Saturday, that will give the Chargers more

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Speaker 1: motivation to go for the seed because they're trying to

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Speaker 1: pass Steelers. And you got to stay on top of

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Speaker 1: all this. I feel like we have a pretty good idea.

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Speaker 1: There's some crazy lines out there, like the Titans are

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Speaker 1: favored over the Texans, the Eagles in the in the

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Speaker 1: Giants are very close, the Bills and the Patriots, and

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Speaker 1: this is all because of resting starters.

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Speaker 2: I'm curious where you want to go.

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Speaker 1: With your first pick, because, like I said, I had

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Speaker 1: a hard time narrowing it down. I like about six

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Speaker 1: narrowing it down.

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Speaker 2: But where you go?

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Speaker 3: I think that my first one right now? What are

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Speaker 3: you see for Cincinnati?

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Speaker 2: Cincinnati? That's a bold one because this is a normal game.

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Speaker 1: But that makes sense normal game because there are minus

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Speaker 3: I think that Cincinnati wins that wow, and they cover

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Speaker 3: the spread on that one. And the reason I'm starting

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Speaker 3: with one that's not a crazy, you know, not a

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Speaker 3: crazy line, one like the Cleveland and Baltimore line seventeen

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Speaker 3: need to win in order to stay playoff relevant. I

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Speaker 3: the joint Jamar Chase t. Higgins situation has been so

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Speaker 3: Cincinnati wins by two.

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Speaker 2: I kind of forgot about that Baltimore game.

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Speaker 1: Is that the number was so big that I didn't

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Speaker 1: even look at it and yeticulous, And yet that's not

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Speaker 1: a crazy pick. I'm on the opposite side, although I'm

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Speaker 1: getting less confident about Pittsburgh not for this show. That's

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Speaker 1: my least confident pick of the week. That's just a

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Speaker 1: kind flip. I just I just don't have face in

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Speaker 1: that Bengals. But I've been on the wrong side of

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Speaker 1: the Bengals and you've been on the right side in

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Speaker 1: recent weeks, So don't listen to me. I am going

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Speaker 1: to the next biggest point spread of the week after

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Speaker 1: the Ravens, and that's Bucks. That was actually I wrote

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Speaker 1: down seven games I liked, and it was the only

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Speaker 1: game that I was ultimately.

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Speaker 2: Like, I will sleep Zaki. Yeah, yeah, Now the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: They made the number huge to try to get anyone

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Speaker 2: It's thirteen and a half, and so that's.

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Speaker 3: Aggressive crazy though, because if it was fourteen and a half,

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Speaker 3: I would feel very differently. Thirteen and a half is

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Speaker 1: Obviously, obviously throughout this week, I'm looking at teams that

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Speaker 1: This is an extreme example, but there's some numbers to

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Speaker 1: it too. Spencer Rattler, if he was eligible, has been

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Speaker 1: pressured on more of his dropbacks than any quarterback in

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Speaker 1: the entire NFL this season. That's partly because he holds

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Speaker 1: the ball. Do you know what team has the highest

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Speaker 1: pressure rate since Week eleven in the entire NFL?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Well, I mean, I'm guessing that since you asked this

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Speaker 3: question specifically about the Bucks, that it's the Buck.

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Speaker 2: It's the Bucks.

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Speaker 1: So that's right now, the team that's the best at

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Speaker 1: by the end of the first half. So whatever the

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Speaker 1: They want to go to the playoffs. That is my

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Speaker 1: first pick. Give me your second pick.

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Speaker 3: Well, let me tell you something about this pick first,

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Speaker 3: because that was one that was that I was considering.

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Speaker 2: You can jump on board too if we agree hard that.

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Speaker 3: I know what I do. Agree hard because in a week,

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Speaker 3: you know, my model's pretty conservative, and in a week

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Speaker 3: a relative to the spread, like they're ranked higher in that.

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Speaker 3: So I mean, I don't know. I think I need

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Speaker 2: We've been good, not perfect. I know we miss one.

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Speaker 1: and I think that's fine. The idea here is we're

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Speaker 1: on the team of the listeners and I'm jumping it'll

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Speaker 1: save It'll make the show shorter. So that's good for

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Speaker 1: everyone if you just want to get out and about

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Speaker 1: for your day. Okay, my second pick, and like I said,

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Speaker 1: I like a lot of them, and so it was

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Speaker 1: tough to choose between them. But the longer I looked

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Speaker 1: at my Seahawks minus six and a half against the

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Speaker 1: resting Rams, the more I thought, this is as if

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks are playing for a playoff spot and the

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Speaker 2: Because the Seahawks really.

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Speaker 1: Want to win this game, They're gonna play everyone they

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Speaker 1: want to get to ten wins. Mike McDonald talked about

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Speaker 1: they're gonna be up for it. More importantly, they're playing

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Speaker 1: a team that's starting Jimmy Garoppolo, and now, as backup

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Speaker 1: quarterbacks go, that's not bad. But when you're sitting Poka

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Speaker 1: I look at this Rams roster as someone who's been

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Speaker 1: a big drop off to the undrafted free agents that

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Speaker 2: Of course, they're not really trying to win. The crowd's

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Speaker 1: Six and a half is a lot, obviously, but I

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Speaker 1: Rams had something to play for, and I might just

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Speaker 1: have picked the Seahawks to win straight up if the

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Speaker 1: their backups are suddenly gonna play? Well, No, I'm going

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Speaker 3: I like that pick a lot. I'm gonna pick another

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Speaker 3: one just so or not, But I am hones say

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Speaker 3: is that just work there? However, my one fantasy note

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Speaker 3: here for like Daily would be a Blake Koram situation.

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Speaker 3: I think he could have a fun week. I'm not

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Speaker 3: suggesting he's going to be like, you know, a guy,

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Speaker 3: if you're playing, if you're in your championships, I'm not late.

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Speaker 3: But if you're playing in DFS and you want to

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Speaker 3: have some fun, we can't do it. Do it for us.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. The reason why I like them is I do

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Speaker 1: think they've actually built up something on defense. They haven't

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Speaker 1: been perfect, but over all the defense has really made strides.

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Speaker 1: But their run defense has been a little up and

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Now you're making me a little nervous because.

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Speaker 3: I'm not worried about the point. I just think it's a.

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Speaker 1: Fun I'm a little worried because just because I like

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Speaker 1: had more than three picks this week. We're going lots

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Speaker 1: of greg stras. All right, give me your third and

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Speaker 3: My third and final pick for the regular twenty twenty

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Speaker 3: four season is the Green Bay Packers.

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Speaker 2: Okay, over the Chicago Bears.

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Speaker 3: Uh it's it's I have I have twelve points.

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Speaker 1: I have ten here, so I'll give you two free

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Speaker 2: Perfect.

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Speaker 3: Well, my point is my model, your model is my

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Speaker 3: that's considerably. That's a that's a big one for me

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Speaker 3: think they need to figure out how to especially after

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Speaker 3: last game. They got to write the ship. And this

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Speaker 3: is the situation where with Matt Leiffleur, they're heading into

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Speaker 3: against against a Bears team that doesn't have a lot

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Speaker 2: Yeah, shout out to the schedule makers.

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Speaker 1: That's early, right, the Green Bay game, Yes, that is

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Speaker 1: But here I'm going all favorites. I'm going to Washington

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Speaker 1: they play they play one. Dallas already won this matchup.

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Speaker 1: He did, but when you looked at that matchup, they

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Speaker 1: gave up four hundred and twelve yards. The Commanders ran

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Speaker 1: They want to win this game. The Cowboys are not

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Speaker 1: They don't Ezekiel Elliott. How could they come back from that? No,

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Speaker 3: I just was looking to see who of their pass catchers.

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Speaker 3: So it's not a great outlook Brandon.

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Speaker 1: Cooks, Oh, I was gonna say, like not Chalingilbert, ye, Ferguson, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Ferguson, Oh, obviously he's at the tight end position. He's

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Speaker 3: in like the top twenty, but like that's not great.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is purely again because I like so many

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Speaker 1: don't think they'll take lightly because they already they already lost.

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Speaker 1: And four and a half not quite enough for me. Now,

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Speaker 1: some babies that most weeks would be like one of

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Speaker 3: What if you had to pick one more?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well I'll give you the Greg.

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Speaker 3: Okay, give me my Greg extress.

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Speaker 2: Here we go. Chiefs plus ten and a half.

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Speaker 1: Love that, agreed. It's it's tricky picking the backups. But

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Speaker 1: could the Chiefs win straight up with their backups? I

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Speaker 1: think it's possible. So if you think it's possible they

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Speaker 1: half points is pretty juicy. I'm not a huge Carson

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Speaker 2: It out of my top three. But I really like it.

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Speaker 2: I like the Panthers plus eight two.

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Speaker 3: Oh gosh, are we on the same side of everything.

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Speaker 2: Right this week?

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Speaker 1: That's good that that's an extra one. So let's write

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Speaker 1: that down as an extra. You just can't be trusting

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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons in the year twenty twenty five to

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Speaker 3: That's a ridiculous note, Like have six and a half.

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Speaker 3: I think they'd get more action on it.

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Speaker 2: I think that's a crazy number. The Panthers have the

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Speaker 2: better quarterback.

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Speaker 1: I like Michael Pennix, but I've seen enough out of

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Speaker 1: Bryce Young that he's playing at a very high level.

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Speaker 1: I know they got wax last week and the defense

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Speaker 1: also like the Giants plus three. I think I'm not

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Speaker 1: but I actually think that for Perfemance was kind of coming.

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Speaker 1: He was a little better. They have something to play for.

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Speaker 1: I think they like their coach. They're playing starters. The

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Speaker 1: Eagles are resting their starters. It's not just like you're

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Speaker 1: without Jalen Hurts. You're without a lot of key players

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Speaker 1: at all these positions.

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Speaker 2: So do you.

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Speaker 3: Agree with the do you agree with the sitting sequon yes,

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Speaker 3: I'm like, yeah, okay, but if he chooses to be

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Speaker 3: and what happens if you get hurt?

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Speaker 1: Like, I don't know, it's too much, you can't play.

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Speaker 1: He also he also leads the NFL in rushes. This

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Speaker 1: huge number, all right, So that is it for my picks.

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Speaker 1: Uh to recap, we are both on the Bucks minus

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Speaker 1: Washington and Seattle. Seattle is minus six and as app

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Speaker 1: just for fun, Denver Giants and the Panthers are my

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Speaker 1: Greg Strass. I would have thrown in the Titans winning

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Speaker 1: and that's actually now they're the favorite over the Texans.

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Speaker 2: I don't even want to bother.

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Speaker 3: I think I have the Texans.

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Speaker 2: Forget that, forget that whole.

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Speaker 3: I think we have the Texans.

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Speaker 2: I have the Texans spinning. That's where we're winning.

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Speaker 1: When we're talking about whether, like the Texans backups can

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Speaker 1: beat Mason Rudolph, you know what's at the end of

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Speaker 1: the season and you know football is back.

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Speaker 2: We'll see a Sunday night