WEBVTT - Five Things About the 2023 PGA Championship with Ryan Lavner 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:02.800 I miss a green, for example, I'm already upset. When 0:00:02.840 --> 0:00:04.920 I find my ball in the bunker, I'm really upset. 0:00:05.040 --> 0:00:06.240 And when I find my ball in. 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:09.480 A bride egg, Frida egg, the dreaded Frida egg, Frida Egg, 0:00:11.160 --> 0:00:11.880 bride egg. 0:00:11.760 --> 0:00:14.120 Lie, I'm about ready to run off the golf course. 0:00:35.440 --> 0:00:39.160 Welcome back to another edition of the Frida Egg Podcast. 0:00:39.560 --> 0:00:45.000 Today's episode is with Ryan Laughner. Ryan works at Golf Channel. 0:00:45.080 --> 0:00:47.040 You've seen his writing, he's been there for a while. 0:00:47.280 --> 0:00:50.440 He's uh, he's a writer. He's on air, he's on 0:00:50.600 --> 0:00:54.200 live from will be prominently featured in the upcoming NCAA 0:00:54.440 --> 0:01:00.240 Championship telecast, the National Championships for men's and women's golf, 0:01:00.680 --> 0:01:02.920 and he will be on the ground at Oak Hill 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:05.480 as well as he does podcasts. He's got the Golf 0:01:05.560 --> 0:01:09.399 Channel podcast with Rex and Lav, so he came on 0:01:09.720 --> 0:01:13.200 to talk do our Five Things podcast with about the 0:01:13.200 --> 0:01:16.720 PGA and Okill. I thought it was a fantastic conversation, 0:01:16.840 --> 0:01:19.680 but I'm obviously biased. You guys can listen, but I 0:01:19.720 --> 0:01:22.280 was really excited to talk to him. He is a 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:25.400 Western New York native, so he's going a bit of 0:01:25.440 --> 0:01:30.240 a homecoming and really excited to just talk okill in 0:01:30.400 --> 0:01:31.000 the PGA. 0:01:31.560 --> 0:01:31.760 It is. 0:01:32.160 --> 0:01:36.240 It's awesome that our second major's here. And without further ado, 0:01:36.760 --> 0:01:44.400 here is Ryan Lavner. I'm excited to be joined here 0:01:44.480 --> 0:01:47.080 by one of the I can I call you a 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:51.000 founding resident of Nakty No? 0:01:51.000 --> 0:01:53.560 No, oh, you certainly can't. Like it was definitely established 0:01:53.600 --> 0:01:54.400 before I moved here. 0:01:54.800 --> 0:01:57.120 When was it established? What year? 0:01:58.280 --> 0:02:00.480 I don't know, Probably a decade or so ago. I 0:02:00.520 --> 0:02:03.000 think it was just a swamp, Like we're three miles 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:05.480 from the ocean, so yeah, I think it was a 0:02:05.520 --> 0:02:07.920 swamp until it was inhabited ten fifteen years ago. 0:02:08.200 --> 0:02:11.000 And then somebody had a dream of turning into town. 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:14.520 Yes, turning it into like the Truman Show, and now 0:02:14.520 --> 0:02:16.280 it's and now it's and I was just flourishing. 0:02:17.200 --> 0:02:20.760 So you're a little town there, South Panavidra. You can 0:02:21.000 --> 0:02:23.920 you could just do. You can ride a golf cart around. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.680 It sounds like a wonderful place. The most is it 0:02:26.720 --> 0:02:29.320 would you make an argument that it's the most convenient 0:02:29.320 --> 0:02:30.600 town in America. 0:02:30.880 --> 0:02:34.680 Most convenient town certainly where I'm located. Like, if you've 0:02:34.720 --> 0:02:38.639 ever been to TVC Sawgrass, we're like fifteen minutes from there. 0:02:38.639 --> 0:02:40.400 And if you're coming from ninety five, you probably went 0:02:40.400 --> 0:02:42.920 on this road called two ten and you drive past 0:02:42.919 --> 0:02:45.600 its Publix, and so it's like downtown Nakati. I live 0:02:45.840 --> 0:02:49.200 walking distance from that public so like I never get 0:02:49.240 --> 0:02:53.520 in the car unless I'm driving to like home, depot 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:56.760 or target or something like that. Otherwise I'm just like 0:02:56.800 --> 0:02:58.960 cruising around in my golf cart. Like it's a great, 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.480 great place to raise kids. 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:03.200 You can and then you can take your kids to 0:03:03.240 --> 0:03:04.240 school in the golf cart. 0:03:05.080 --> 0:03:07.200 Yes, daycare is literally a block and a half away. 0:03:07.600 --> 0:03:10.360 It's unbelievable. I was running late. I was running late 0:03:10.440 --> 0:03:12.960 yesterday and just like Floorida and was there in twelve seconds. 0:03:13.040 --> 0:03:19.640 That's my hometown. I'm close. I'm close to downtown and 0:03:19.760 --> 0:03:22.400 I can walk. I rarely get in my car when 0:03:22.400 --> 0:03:25.080 I'm home. It's like once you know, I have to 0:03:25.120 --> 0:03:28.240 be venturing out somewhere to get to get in the car. 0:03:28.320 --> 0:03:31.720 I can do every task. It's so underrated. 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.160 It's like it's such an inconvenience having to get into 0:03:34.160 --> 0:03:37.200 the car. Like I had to start my car recently 0:03:37.240 --> 0:03:39.839 to like make sure it still works. Like I never 0:03:39.920 --> 0:03:40.640 ever fill up. 0:03:41.440 --> 0:03:42.560 It's amazing, wonderful. 0:03:42.800 --> 0:03:45.720 One way one way to to say, you know to 0:03:45.720 --> 0:03:49.080 to reduce your emissions, your your gas emissions. 0:03:49.080 --> 0:03:52.240 It's just next year, next year's Players Championship. You're coming over. 0:03:53.000 --> 0:03:54.520 We'll grow out in the backyard. I'll take you to 0:03:54.600 --> 0:03:56.640 the water park. I'll get you a three dollars beer. 0:03:57.720 --> 0:04:00.600 We can get some chicken tenders at food. There's a 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.760 lot of hard time. Yes, we live a half mile 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:05.960 from a water park. Two of them, not just one. 0:04:06.400 --> 0:04:10.360 Two of them like legit designed by like the Disney engineers. 0:04:10.720 --> 0:04:11.720 But they're so legit. 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:16.719 All right, Ryan, you're on When do you head up 0:04:16.760 --> 0:04:17.479 to Rochester? 0:04:18.520 --> 0:04:23.479 I fly on Monday morning. So although Nakati is my 0:04:23.560 --> 0:04:27.919 current home, Rochester, New York is my old home. My 0:04:28.000 --> 0:04:30.080 dad lives about three miles from there. I grew up 0:04:30.080 --> 0:04:32.960 in Canadagua, which is one of the Finger Lakes, about 0:04:33.000 --> 0:04:35.760 thirty minutes south of Oak Hill. So this is a 0:04:36.400 --> 0:04:38.480 much anticipated home game for me, to be honest. 0:04:38.600 --> 0:04:41.559 Ah, that's delightful. You stay in with your dad. 0:04:42.200 --> 0:04:43.320 I am staying with my dad. 0:04:43.920 --> 0:04:46.280 What a wonderful week for you. I had. 0:04:46.600 --> 0:04:48.400 I know I needed to secure one of those parking 0:04:48.400 --> 0:04:50.200 passes where I can actually park on property, and I 0:04:50.400 --> 0:04:54.039 have to go through the rerouting that I think every 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:55.200 other meat member is going to have. 0:04:55.440 --> 0:04:57.800 What's your what's your favorite part of that area? Give 0:04:57.880 --> 0:05:00.559 us a little bit of a insight here. I didn't 0:05:00.560 --> 0:05:03.560 plan this, but I would love you know some Upstate 0:05:03.640 --> 0:05:06.600 New York. Uh, you know what, what's the best part 0:05:06.839 --> 0:05:08.080 about Upstate New York. 0:05:08.560 --> 0:05:09.880 First of all, it's Western New York. 0:05:09.920 --> 0:05:10.320 Western. 0:05:10.839 --> 0:05:14.640 Yeah. We take actually great exception when people say it's upstate. 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:16.719 Could it be western slash upstate? 0:05:17.400 --> 0:05:21.520 It couldn't. It could Nope, Okay, most it most certainly 0:05:21.520 --> 0:05:26.440 could not. I love it. I miss it. Obviously. The 0:05:26.440 --> 0:05:30.160 best part is the seasons, and now living in Florida, 0:05:30.240 --> 0:05:33.760 that's that's kind of been eliminated for the most part. 0:05:33.880 --> 0:05:36.840 I mean, there's nothing better than than fall golf. That's 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:39.640 when we played our high school golf with you know, 0:05:39.680 --> 0:05:42.880 the leaves falling and you're putting on pullovers and pants 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:45.360 like it's it's just a great time to be up there. 0:05:45.440 --> 0:05:53.000 Football games I miss like August to October working at 0:05:53.000 --> 0:05:56.400 the golf course, like yeah, obviously, the winters, the winter suck. 0:05:57.240 --> 0:05:59.159 We lived near Bristol Mount which was a ski resort, 0:05:59.240 --> 0:06:01.600 so that was something fun to do. But like the 0:06:01.640 --> 0:06:05.120 spring's pretty miserable, and that's why I'm like, I'm super 0:06:05.200 --> 0:06:06.760 curious to get up there. And I looked at a 0:06:06.800 --> 0:06:09.520 long rage forecast, like I was kind of hoping that 0:06:09.560 --> 0:06:13.080 we were going to get the typical Western New York weather, 0:06:13.720 --> 0:06:15.599 like you know, where it's eighty five one day and 0:06:15.640 --> 0:06:19.080 then it's forty five and like possible sleep the next. 0:06:19.120 --> 0:06:22.000 It doesn't look like we're gonna get that, which somewhat disappointing. 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.200 I know, it looks like sixty five degrees and like 0:06:24.240 --> 0:06:27.440 partly cloudy, Like that is not the That is not 0:06:27.480 --> 0:06:30.200 the Western New York that I remember. Like I remember 0:06:30.240 --> 0:06:33.239 pitching a high school game early June, so like the seasons, 0:06:33.279 --> 0:06:35.520 I'm sure it was the same for you in Chicago, 0:06:35.640 --> 0:06:39.200 like your school year goes into June. Like I was 0:06:39.279 --> 0:06:42.760 pitching and my fingers were bleeding because the laces were 0:06:42.839 --> 0:06:46.400 so firm and so sharp from the cold, Like that's 0:06:46.480 --> 0:06:48.279 just kind of what I was used to it. I 0:06:48.279 --> 0:06:51.240 feel like it's not gonna be the same if it's 0:06:51.279 --> 0:06:53.839 just like sixty five and pleasant, Like what is that nonsense? 0:06:54.040 --> 0:06:59.080 Also, like for since really since the PGA moved to May, 0:06:59.200 --> 0:07:01.960 how many years ago was that like almost like five 0:07:02.080 --> 0:07:03.520 now four, so. 0:07:03.480 --> 0:07:06.120 I think it was. I think oak Hill was was 0:07:06.160 --> 0:07:10.360 awarded this PGA in twenty fifteen, and then either a 0:07:10.440 --> 0:07:12.280 year or two later is when they're like, oh yeah, 0:07:12.320 --> 0:07:14.240 by the way, we move move this thing from August 0:07:14.320 --> 0:07:15.240 to May. Good luck. 0:07:15.600 --> 0:07:18.600 So you know, it's been like the most fun little 0:07:18.640 --> 0:07:21.960 story to bat around every just like in passing, like 0:07:22.040 --> 0:07:25.000 every you know, every few months. Oh yeah that May 0:07:25.320 --> 0:07:29.560 major in Rochester, New York. And of course now we 0:07:29.600 --> 0:07:32.360 get here and it's pretty nice weather, and I think 0:07:32.400 --> 0:07:35.360 the springs beender. I'm in Chicago right now and I'm 0:07:35.520 --> 0:07:38.280 just shocked at how many leaves are on the trees. 0:07:38.600 --> 0:07:41.680 So I'm guessing something similar there. Like you know, I 0:07:41.760 --> 0:07:43.920 remember I was there. I was there last fall and 0:07:43.960 --> 0:07:46.559 I was asking, you know, some of the oak Hill staff. 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:48.880 I was like, how are we feeling on trees? They're like, oh, 0:07:48.880 --> 0:07:51.040 they're they're gonna be bear. They're gonna be bear. But 0:07:51.160 --> 0:07:54.360 I think they're actually gonna have some foliage, which should 0:07:54.360 --> 0:07:56.880 help a ton with the with the coverage. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:07:58.559 Is there is there a meal? 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:02.840 Is there a restaurant that you where you're anticipating, eagerly 0:08:02.960 --> 0:08:05.760 excited to return to at home or is it mostly 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:07.600 just going to be hanging out at the house. 0:08:08.360 --> 0:08:09.520 I mean, it's a lot of it's gonna be hanging 0:08:09.520 --> 0:08:10.960 out with the house. I haven't seen my parents all 0:08:11.000 --> 0:08:15.880 that much since, unfortunately, since I went to school. I 0:08:15.920 --> 0:08:21.240 will say we're going to dinosaur barbecue on Monday when 0:08:21.280 --> 0:08:25.080 I first get in, like Rex Hoggard and I March 0:08:25.200 --> 0:08:28.440 label from ESPN, my dad, my step moomb We're going 0:08:28.480 --> 0:08:30.480 to go out to barbecues. I think that'll be great. 0:08:31.160 --> 0:08:33.839 And then the rocks that's in the rock. Yeah, it's 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:37.480 like fifteen minutes from Oak Hill. And then I've actually 0:08:37.520 --> 0:08:40.400 made the mistake before Andy of getting what's called a 0:08:40.440 --> 0:08:41.559 garbage plate. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:43.520 Before I barbecue. 0:08:44.160 --> 0:08:46.240 No, no, no, no, this is this is different. So 0:08:46.520 --> 0:08:49.319 that's that's a separate entity. Getting a garbage plate, which 0:08:49.360 --> 0:08:52.040 is pretty famous in Western New York. It's like everything 0:08:52.040 --> 0:08:55.240 that you could possibly imagine on one plate. There's like 0:08:55.360 --> 0:09:00.520 hot dogs, hamburgers, mac and cheese just like all thrown 0:09:00.559 --> 0:09:03.199 on this one plate. And I made the mistake of 0:09:03.280 --> 0:09:06.040 hopping on a flight about an hour and a half 0:09:06.679 --> 0:09:10.000 after I had one. It was pretty epic adventures. So 0:09:10.040 --> 0:09:12.760 I think we're gonna have to duplicate that just for 0:09:13.240 --> 0:09:14.560 just for some hashtag content. 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:17.199 So so you're gonna get a garbage plate that sounds, 0:09:17.520 --> 0:09:20.360 you know, sounds like an eight year old's dream. 0:09:20.480 --> 0:09:21.280 A garbage plate. 0:09:22.040 --> 0:09:26.040 It's pretty, it's pretty popular, it's pretty grotesque. But I 0:09:26.040 --> 0:09:30.000 think anyone who who visits visits that area will have 0:09:30.040 --> 0:09:30.640 to snag one. 0:09:30.679 --> 0:09:32.800 All right, Well, I think I think there should be 0:09:32.840 --> 0:09:36.080 a challenge to some you know, willing golf journalists to 0:09:36.280 --> 0:09:39.040 find the best garbage plate. It seems like something you 0:09:39.120 --> 0:09:41.800 might find at golf dot com nowadays. I go over 0:09:41.880 --> 0:09:44.680 that website and I find like, hey, here's a great 0:09:44.720 --> 0:09:47.520 guacamole recipe. I'm like, oh, that's that's what I was 0:09:47.559 --> 0:09:48.120 looking for. 0:09:48.320 --> 0:09:50.400 So I'm gonna have to text Claire Rogers and be like, 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.160 all right, I want to see like a garbage plate challenge. 0:09:53.240 --> 0:09:56.120 Let's go Yeah, all right, let's uh, let's do our 0:09:56.280 --> 0:10:01.000 our ceremonial five things here. I you know, I again, 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:03.160 Hey is my guest here. You have to come up 0:10:03.160 --> 0:10:05.400 with five things. I came up with five. 0:10:05.200 --> 0:10:07.959 Things, very very very unique format. 0:10:08.360 --> 0:10:12.000 I mean, yeah, it's the it's the I thought long 0:10:12.040 --> 0:10:14.240 and hard about it. I'm glad I was able to 0:10:14.280 --> 0:10:17.320 innovate in the space and come up with a five 0:10:17.400 --> 0:10:18.679 story lines podcast. 0:10:18.800 --> 0:10:20.800 It was a great honor of mine. 0:10:22.559 --> 0:10:26.480 We're actually we're gonna count this down in like true TV. 0:10:27.559 --> 0:10:29.920 You're te guys, right, so this is good. 0:10:30.080 --> 0:10:33.000 You know the TV guy when they're desperate to be 0:10:33.080 --> 0:10:33.800 very clear. 0:10:34.240 --> 0:10:38.600 Oh, don't sell yourself short. You got that CIA's coming up. 0:10:38.640 --> 0:10:41.000 That's that's usually your time to shine. 0:10:41.880 --> 0:10:44.520 I do events double as up coming up. I had 0:10:44.559 --> 0:10:46.360 to had to beg my way back into the coverage 0:10:46.520 --> 0:10:48.960 very much looking forward to get into Greyhawk for the 0:10:48.960 --> 0:10:51.600 final time where I can stop getting a sock tand 0:10:51.640 --> 0:10:54.560 like it's so freaking hot on that set that like 0:10:54.600 --> 0:10:58.080 my ankles get burned. So the La Costa, La Costa 0:10:58.160 --> 0:10:59.840 here we come, twenty twenty four. 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:02.400 You'll be in uh, you'll be in Arizona to see 0:11:02.720 --> 0:11:05.280 Illinois first national championship in golf. 0:11:05.320 --> 0:11:06.200 I'm excited for you. 0:11:07.120 --> 0:11:10.439 That'd be wonderful. I mean the storylines are a plenty, 0:11:10.559 --> 0:11:16.040 like the like the individual racist year is is insane, 0:11:16.400 --> 0:11:20.160 and we're gonna begin lud big Ayberg's march towards the 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.680 Roder Cup twenty twenty three. He would come at ntaa's. 0:11:23.559 --> 0:11:25.760 All right, let's get into it. What's it? What's your 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:26.440 number five? 0:11:26.559 --> 0:11:29.040 I didn't really, I didn't number them, so mine are 0:11:29.040 --> 0:11:30.600 gonna be all out of order. But I love that 0:11:30.679 --> 0:11:33.520 you've got a countdown, So you're your number five. 0:11:33.800 --> 0:11:36.280 Uh for for number five? For me, Andy and I 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.960 don't think we're gonna be outdated on this when this 0:11:40.000 --> 0:11:42.720 comes out on Sunday. But for me, the fifth biggest 0:11:42.720 --> 0:11:45.520 storyline is jordan' Speed's injury, Like is he going to play? 0:11:46.080 --> 0:11:50.040 How severe is the is the ailment that he's dealing with? 0:11:50.040 --> 0:11:53.040 Like I was. I was super alarmed when he put 0:11:53.040 --> 0:11:56.400 out that tweet on Monday of Nelson Week. Like he 0:11:56.440 --> 0:11:59.440 didn't say that he had discomfort, He didn't say that 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:03.040 he had no bagging pain. He said like quote severe 0:12:03.200 --> 0:12:06.600 pain in my left for rists. So there's so many 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:08.600 alarm bellows that go off. It's not just the left 0:12:08.600 --> 0:12:10.480 for rists, it's the use of the word severe. It's 0:12:10.520 --> 0:12:12.520 the fact that he said that he's weak to week. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:15.840 I made the point with Rex earlier this week, like 0:12:16.480 --> 0:12:20.240 you can miss time in October, you could miss time 0:12:20.880 --> 0:12:24.920 in January, Like this is just a dreadful period in 0:12:24.960 --> 0:12:29.679 the golf calendar to be suffering something like this, right, 0:12:29.720 --> 0:12:32.280 you have to let it one hundred percent heal, And 0:12:32.320 --> 0:12:35.720 so I'd be really surprised if we see Jordan Speed 0:12:35.800 --> 0:12:39.000 tieda this week at Okhall, which I think is a shame. 0:12:39.720 --> 0:12:41.640 You know, he's playing the best golf he has since 0:12:42.200 --> 0:12:45.679 since twenty seventeen. He hasn't had the greatest history at 0:12:45.679 --> 0:12:49.120 the PGA Championship, and so just to kind of have 0:12:49.200 --> 0:12:52.840 an opportunity missed, most likely in the prime of his 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.720 athletic careers is certainly is certainly disappointing from a golf 0:12:55.760 --> 0:12:56.520 fans perspective. 0:12:57.080 --> 0:13:00.840 Yeah, obviously, you know the career Grand Slam is the spot. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:03.319 I don't think Okill was really a great spot for him. 0:13:03.360 --> 0:13:08.439 But he's playing really good golf, and risk injuries are 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.600 terrifying for a golfer like that is I mean, when 0:13:11.600 --> 0:13:14.520 you talk about what are the worst injuries a golfer 0:13:14.559 --> 0:13:17.480 can have, like I think wrist and hand can risk 0:13:17.720 --> 0:13:21.120 is like right there with back. Right, So in terms 0:13:21.120 --> 0:13:24.120 of this, and you know, you know that it has 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:29.720 to be pretty serious. Outside of the majors, the players 0:13:30.000 --> 0:13:33.200 like the events that Jordan Speces least likely to miss 0:13:33.760 --> 0:13:34.360 I think. 0:13:34.160 --> 0:13:35.800 Are the two at and T events. 0:13:35.920 --> 0:13:40.320 Right, obviously his biggest, biggest sponsor outside of under Armour 0:13:40.760 --> 0:13:45.400 and uh a big PGA Tour sponsor. So those are 0:13:45.400 --> 0:13:48.199 the events that he is locked in for his hometown 0:13:48.400 --> 0:13:53.400 at and T event and uh and so yeah, I agree, 0:13:53.640 --> 0:13:56.400 this is a terrible time to have an injury. 0:13:56.440 --> 0:13:58.280 Why is why is? Why is okill not a great 0:13:58.320 --> 0:13:58.880 course for him? 0:13:59.440 --> 0:14:04.240 I just I think it's gonna skew power. I think 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:07.839 it's gonna skew I think it's I don't think it's 0:14:07.840 --> 0:14:10.160 gonna be full Beth Page, but I think it's gonna 0:14:10.160 --> 0:14:11.679 skew that way. 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.160 You know T three, Jordan's. 0:14:13.760 --> 0:14:15.480 Beef T three at the Beth Page pg A. 0:14:15.720 --> 0:14:20.080 That's it's the most it's the most irrelevant T three, And. 0:14:20.840 --> 0:14:23.440 I mean it was he was like nine back, but hey, 0:14:24.160 --> 0:14:25.760 it looks it looks good on Wikipedia. 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:28.640 Nine back and he's five years later. He had like 0:14:28.680 --> 0:14:32.280 a historic puttig week. It was like one of the 0:14:32.440 --> 0:14:36.760 one of the greatest putting Major Championships weeks of all time, 0:14:37.560 --> 0:14:39.480 and like, you have a great putty week and you 0:14:39.560 --> 0:14:43.440 still are nine back or whatever he ended up. It's 0:14:43.560 --> 0:14:46.280 uh so, anyways, I think it's gonna skew a little 0:14:46.280 --> 0:14:47.640 bit bomber just with uh. 0:14:47.760 --> 0:14:49.680 This was one of my things, so I can just 0:14:49.800 --> 0:14:50.920 roll right into it. 0:14:50.960 --> 0:14:52.160 Is it number five or is it? 0:14:52.280 --> 0:14:55.560 No, it's not number five. I don't know what it is. See. 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:58.160 It was the first thing that I wrote down, just 0:14:58.200 --> 0:14:59.920 because that's usually where my brain go. 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:00.440 Two. 0:15:00.520 --> 0:15:01.760 It is golf course. 0:15:02.880 --> 0:15:06.280 I think it's gonna we're seeing early videos. I've got 0:15:06.400 --> 0:15:09.440 some insight from the ground from somebody very intimate with 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:11.800 the grounds at Oak Hill that the rough is is 0:15:12.080 --> 0:15:14.040 very lush, which I think was like. 0:15:14.120 --> 0:15:16.880 It's been great growing conditions. Andy, it's been warm, it's 0:15:16.920 --> 0:15:19.080 been warm, and now it's been wet for the past 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:19.560 couple of weeks. 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.680 I think that was the biggest concern with this, with 0:15:21.800 --> 0:15:24.000 hosting at this time of year, was like, how are 0:15:24.040 --> 0:15:27.600 you gonna how's the grass gonna be? And it seems 0:15:27.640 --> 0:15:30.520 like they've had a great, great uh spring. 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:33.040 So the rough is super lush. 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:37.480 It's like super thick grass, Like the actual grass is 0:15:37.520 --> 0:15:38.040 really thick. 0:15:38.120 --> 0:15:40.280 It's a thick strain of grass. 0:15:40.920 --> 0:15:44.080 So I think we're gonna see, you know, with these 0:15:44.160 --> 0:15:47.760 narrow fairways that can't in different directions, Like it's just 0:15:47.800 --> 0:15:51.000 gonna be really hard to hit fairaways. And when that happens, 0:15:51.080 --> 0:15:53.960 it it becomes who can hit it the furthest up 0:15:54.480 --> 0:15:58.080 and there's some elevated greens out there, so that's the 0:15:58.120 --> 0:16:00.160 other thing. You have to hit it high and are 0:16:00.840 --> 0:16:04.160 and so you start to look at it, it's you know, 0:16:04.320 --> 0:16:07.480 I think you're you're starting the field of who's going 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:11.280 to contend shrinks down to ten fifteen players. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:15.200 That's interesting because that was my number four was the 0:16:15.240 --> 0:16:17.680 golf course. I remember playing it, you know, back in 0:16:17.760 --> 0:16:22.160 high school. It seemed kind of forgettable, Like every there 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:26.000 was just so many trees I didn't like like being 0:16:26.400 --> 0:16:28.280 It's kind of like Harbor Town right where you can 0:16:28.360 --> 0:16:30.440 be in the fairway, but but you can be blocked out, 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:33.680 and that was that was certainly frustrating. I didn't find 0:16:33.720 --> 0:16:37.840 it particularly memorable, at least for vast stretches of the 0:16:37.840 --> 0:16:40.400 golf course. You guys an amazing job, but I would 0:16:40.400 --> 0:16:42.360 I would strongly encourage anyone who hasn't checked it out 0:16:42.840 --> 0:16:44.760 to see the history of Oak Hill and kind of 0:16:44.760 --> 0:16:48.280 what they've done with the restoration. Like I'm super excited 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.600 to see how this golf course plays now after the restoration. 0:16:51.800 --> 0:16:54.600 Going back to the Donald Ross greens like you guys 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:59.960 illustrated so well, like the bunker shaping is so dramatic. 0:17:00.560 --> 0:17:02.280 Like I think, I don't think this is going to 0:17:02.360 --> 0:17:05.199 be a pushover by any stretch of the imagination. Like 0:17:05.200 --> 0:17:07.240 I don't think we're going to see those the very 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:10.760 low scoring PG championships that we've seen in the past. 0:17:10.760 --> 0:17:15.560 Okill typically plays tough and with the density of the 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:18.280 rough like you talked about, like, yeah, you've got to 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:20.800 have this thing on an absolute rope. And so if 0:17:20.800 --> 0:17:24.200 that's the case, if you need a guy who hits 0:17:24.240 --> 0:17:27.719 it far, hits it high, is able to stop it 0:17:27.800 --> 0:17:32.000 on firm greens like who Who's players to you that 0:17:32.000 --> 0:17:36.000 that fit that profile as well as you know currently. 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.760 Informed twenty twenty Bryson. 0:17:38.960 --> 0:17:40.480 He was he was too erratic. 0:17:41.080 --> 0:17:41.560 I don't know. 0:17:41.760 --> 0:17:44.240 I think I think it's gonna be about like hitting 0:17:44.280 --> 0:17:46.560 it far. It's gonna be a big thing. But you 0:17:46.680 --> 0:17:50.800 obviously automatically go to that Beth page like Brooks DJ. 0:17:51.240 --> 0:17:55.080 I think rom obviously I thinks just like brawny, big 0:17:55.400 --> 0:17:58.480 burly dudes, I think will be a good one, you know, 0:17:59.040 --> 0:18:01.800 like the I always say, like the thing about Shuffler 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.360 is if you're really good at everything. 0:18:03.600 --> 0:18:05.280 Every course is a fit, right. 0:18:06.520 --> 0:18:08.320 I think one of the things to watch, like, I 0:18:08.359 --> 0:18:10.159 think you hit the nail on the head with scoring. 0:18:10.200 --> 0:18:11.760 If we're going to just talk about the course a 0:18:11.760 --> 0:18:14.359 little bit here, and I think, like I was thinking 0:18:14.359 --> 0:18:17.480 about this, it's like four to six is probably gonna 0:18:17.480 --> 0:18:19.680 be the winning score if I had to guess. 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:22.760 Stuff was like, I think ten and that was the 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:27.479 lowest score ever. It'll kill if I'm not mistaken. Obviously 0:18:27.520 --> 0:18:33.520 that was in August. Yeah, I was thinking like eight. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:36.040 Ish, I get yeah, I could see eight. Eight would 0:18:36.080 --> 0:18:39.520 be I think on the on the upper end. Obviously, 0:18:39.560 --> 0:18:44.400 PGAs tend to be around saddy, you know. I think 0:18:44.480 --> 0:18:47.239 the the thing is like what I'm really curious too 0:18:47.359 --> 0:18:52.320 about is like morning versus afternoon wave because I think 0:18:52.359 --> 0:18:55.440 it'll be consistent looking at the weather, but like the morning, 0:18:56.119 --> 0:18:58.240 it's gonna be cold, and the balls just. 0:18:58.240 --> 0:19:01.360 Not gonna be go forties. Yeah, the forties in the mornings. 0:19:01.040 --> 0:19:04.080 And the ball doesn't go anywhere in that out there 0:19:04.320 --> 0:19:07.280 at that time of year when it's cold like by this, 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:10.320 even if it's like sixty five, you get that kind 0:19:10.359 --> 0:19:14.800 of spring cool air breeze and the ball's it's gonna 0:19:14.800 --> 0:19:15.520 play so long. 0:19:15.640 --> 0:19:17.560 I'm curious with the club. 0:19:17.640 --> 0:19:19.159 I think one of the things where you could have 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:22.679 a higher end of scores, like the higher range, like 0:19:22.680 --> 0:19:24.960 where you get to the eights, the nines, the tens 0:19:25.760 --> 0:19:29.199 is if they're like very conscientious of the uh of 0:19:29.240 --> 0:19:31.720 the club pros and they set it up a lot 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:36.160 shorter because there are some te's. It's nuts how far 0:19:36.200 --> 0:19:38.199 back some of these teas are, like you're you know 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.040 thirteen the par five with the Hill of Fame. 0:19:41.960 --> 0:19:43.520 That thing can play so long. 0:19:43.640 --> 0:19:46.199 I think it's like six six hundred plus for the 0:19:46.240 --> 0:19:48.960 back te You know, you have these par threes on 0:19:49.640 --> 0:19:53.360 three and couplets, aren't there three and eleven? I think 0:19:53.400 --> 0:19:57.480 once two thirty, once two forty five. It's like those 0:19:57.480 --> 0:20:01.320 are just beasts of holes. I mean remember remember the 0:20:01.359 --> 0:20:03.320 guy I forgot his name maybe it was last name, 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:06.240 was Haul at the at the the PGA pro who 0:20:06.320 --> 0:20:08.680 was like sixty five at Harding Park, who was hitting 0:20:08.720 --> 0:20:10.359 driver three wood. 0:20:12.400 --> 0:20:13.600