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Speaker 3: Let's get it, get it, get it, get.
Speaker 2: It, because there's so much about this moment that it's trying.
Speaker 4: To make people feel like they've lost their mind, when
Speaker 4: in fact.
Speaker 5: The welcome home, y'all, welcome to another episode of the
Speaker 5: Native lamp podcast. This week is our hundredth episode, and
Speaker 5: we're so proud to be here and joining you guys
Speaker 5: as we always do, to talk about everything that's going
Speaker 5: on in the culture around us, politically, sports, entertainment, all
Speaker 5: those good things.
Speaker 6: Andrew, you look so different.
Speaker 5: Andrew ain't never looked as good.
Speaker 2: Can you remember how I used to tell you that
Speaker 2: he used to think we were the same person and
Speaker 2: not physically in the same space. Brother, Good to.
Speaker 5: See, it's good to see. I'm glad that you're one
Speaker 5: of the number. As they say where we're from.
Speaker 2: That's right now. The difference of course between party and
Speaker 2: I car gets him self compliments. I tend to wait
Speaker 2: for them to be merited.
Speaker 6: Welcome home, Welcome home.
Speaker 1: Yes, it is official.
Speaker 6: I love it.
Speaker 7: How that was amazing, very chill.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's fine.
Speaker 7: I give you a me for not Beyonce.
Speaker 6: How did you open up? Do you hear somebody say
Speaker 6: these mothers were crazy? I think that was the best
Speaker 6: exactly because they really are great. They really are.
Speaker 1: So I know I want to get into Bakari, but
Speaker 1: first we got to let our viewers know. On this
Speaker 1: hundred episode, when we talk about today.
Speaker 4: Beyond Beyonce, beyond Beyonce, we are also going to talk
Speaker 4: about speaking of these mfs are crazy, this government shutdown
Speaker 4: that is still going. Yeah, I want to get into
Speaker 4: MAGA invading black spaces, not just taking over our cities,
Speaker 4: but also this turning point idea of coming to college campuses.
Speaker 1: I'm not feeling it. I don't know if the young
Speaker 1: people are going to show up or not. I don't
Speaker 1: think they should, but I want to hear what you
Speaker 1: all have to say.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm interested, and let the audience get to know
Speaker 2: Bikari a little bit better. We all know, of course,
Speaker 2: why this man is on the platform, has graciously agreed
Speaker 2: to join us graciously, but I know that the listeners
Speaker 2: and the viewers, our family out there, want to know
Speaker 2: what they can expect, and you'll get a good flavor
Speaker 2: of it. Today you've already gotten I don't know, confidence
Speaker 2: on steroids. But the rest of it is to come.
Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about on your first.
Speaker 5: I'm just happy to be here. This is family. This
Speaker 5: is not an adjustment. There will be no adjustment period,
Speaker 5: you know, because we all we all talk and every
Speaker 5: every day you guys are texting me for advice.
Speaker 2: On how to be better, how to be better?
Speaker 5: That is actually the misinformation I want to talk about,
Speaker 5: Kyrien Lacy young Man at Louisiana State University. There's a
Speaker 5: lot of conflicting if mation and reports, but you know,
Speaker 5: the way that we treat each other on social media
Speaker 5: something the cesspool that has become Twitter and Instagram. And
Speaker 5: we're raising kids in this environment too, So how do
Speaker 5: we do that? What do we do? And I look
Speaker 5: forward to spend in the next few minutes with your Yeah,
Speaker 5: oh if.
Speaker 6: We have time, you won't.
Speaker 1: Well, maybe we can talk about on minipop. But you
Speaker 1: showed us a video clip of Congressman Katie Port.
Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, we need to talk about it was running for.
Speaker 6: Governor in Florida, who had this really California?
Speaker 7: Yeah what you said?
Speaker 6: Sorry?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's that you know, when you're running
Speaker 5: for office, there are moments in time. It's like playing sports.
Speaker 5: There are moments in which who you are kind of.
Speaker 2: Moment.
Speaker 1: It was an ugly interview. We'll show you guys the
Speaker 1: clip later, but let's get into the show.
Speaker 6: All right, Welcome home, all right, Vacari.
Speaker 1: Angela, you were saying that you wanted to do a
Speaker 1: rapid round with Bakari, But I just want to say,
Speaker 1: I'm actually thrilled that you're joining the show. I find
Speaker 1: it hilarious that you fancy yourself the Beyonce of our cent.
Speaker 6: But I have known you. We've all known you.
Speaker 1: Our friendship stretches decades, and I think the thing I'm
Speaker 1: most excited about is all of us, our friends, and
Speaker 1: the conversations we have here. We have them the same. Angela,
Speaker 1: and Andrew and I went to dinner this week and
Speaker 1: no Bakari was flying in.
Speaker 5: I was busy.
Speaker 6: He looked and busy as always.
Speaker 1: But we were at the table laughing so hard, and
Speaker 1: people had recognized us and they were coming up saying,
Speaker 1: we love Native Lampard. What's happening? We heard y'all were canceled.
Speaker 1: I just want to say I'm throwing angela other to bus.
Speaker 6: It was this one. She made us do it. She
Speaker 6: made us do it.
Speaker 4: I just want to say for the record that it
Speaker 4: was my idea, and I want to say that it
Speaker 4: wasn't five seconds that went by before these two were
Speaker 4: absolutely on board with it, because it was not a
Speaker 4: wide shot. When I said these two, I will say,
Speaker 4: it's Andrew to my left and Tip to my right.
Speaker 4: And the idea really was it's hard to break through,
Speaker 4: which is something we talk about on this show all
Speaker 4: the time.
Speaker 7: It's hard to break.
Speaker 4: Through in this news environment, and so you have to
Speaker 4: get creative. Perhaps it was a little too cunning, I
Speaker 4: don't know, but we just wanted people to realize that, yes,
Speaker 4: Culture Con was our last show together as a trio,
Speaker 4: so their tripod became.
Speaker 2: A quad pip.
Speaker 4: And on that note, I just I want to say, Nakari,
Speaker 4: we all had the opportunity when we started the show
Speaker 4: to tell people stuff about ourselves that they may not know,
Speaker 4: and so we wanted to ensure that you had a
Speaker 4: proper introduction to Native Lampa's audience. We're sure some of
Speaker 4: the Bacari Sellers podcast audience will also come over, but
Speaker 4: just want to give you an opportunity to have the
Speaker 4: floor and tell your story and we can ask you
Speaker 4: questions on the other side of that.
Speaker 2: Yes, but it's important before you start that it must
Speaker 2: be vulnerable. Generally some people don't know. Oh and if
Speaker 2: it could bring you to tears, that'd be a real plus.
Speaker 5: What would I do without you? Before I get started
Speaker 5: telling you who I am, I've known Andrew since my
Speaker 5: time at Morehouse College. And Andrew was a phenomenal, phenomenal
Speaker 5: young man who was had been SJA president but was
Speaker 5: kind of figuring his way out in city politics. Of course, Angela,
Speaker 5: the first time we met, you were executive director of
Speaker 5: the CBC at the time, grinding away hurting cats. That
Speaker 5: is a very very parting feathers. That was a very
Speaker 5: very difficult challenge and tasks. And I believe your chairman,
Speaker 5: one of the chairmen that you served under was Emmanuel
Speaker 5: Cleeford from not mistaken only one great, great and awesome
Speaker 5: human being, great and awesome leader. And that's when you
Speaker 5: know the Caucus has had is ups and downs in
Speaker 5: terms of perception.
Speaker 7: But I'm sorry, do you but you got me CBC.
Speaker 4: I just want to just send a special prayer to
Speaker 4: the family of Carolyn Chiefs Killpatrick cast Away as a
Speaker 4: former CBC care I can't not think about my cbcpans
Speaker 4: brought rest in power miss Killing.
Speaker 5: And then yes, that was a yeah segue. I was
Speaker 5: just going to say the strength that you all displayed
Speaker 5: at that time. And one of the things people don't
Speaker 5: know about the CBC. It's a family, and I don't
Speaker 5: think people really know how close those members are, those
Speaker 5: staffers are, and so that's that was my entree into
Speaker 5: meeting Angela. And then Tiffany has been I don't think
Speaker 5: people really know that Tiffany has been in every level
Speaker 5: of journalism, and that is why her knowledge and probably
Speaker 5: disappointment comes from what you've been able to see and
Speaker 5: gain and garner from working at many different institutions. And she,
Speaker 5: as I was talking on earlier, she's the only true
Speaker 5: journalist we have, and so I believe that shown through
Speaker 5: quite often. You know, I tell people in the barbershop,
Speaker 5: I get paid for my opinion, and then you have
Speaker 5: people who are true journalists, and there is a clear
Speaker 5: line between the two. I guess for audiences who may
Speaker 5: not know who I am, I think that my story
Speaker 5: starts February eighth of nineteen sixty eight when my father,
Speaker 5: along with twenty eight others were shot. Three were killed
Speaker 5: on the campus of South Carolina State and what's known
Speaker 5: as the Orangeburg massacre. My father was not only shot,
Speaker 5: but he was arrested that night. He was charged with
Speaker 5: five felonies, looking at a maximum of seventy five years
Speaker 5: in prison. He ended up having his bond deny and
Speaker 5: serving a little bit of time on death row while
Speaker 5: his bond was denied. His bond was eventually set about
Speaker 5: a month later fifty thousand dollars. And so that was
Speaker 5: a great deal of resources for my grandparents. And in
Speaker 5: between the time where those three young men were killed
Speaker 5: and Henry Smith Samuel having to Dellanha Middleton and my
Speaker 5: father's eventual trial, all nine officers who fired shots into
Speaker 5: the group of students were tried random footnote. It was
Speaker 5: the first and only time in this country's history that
Speaker 5: well the first time in this country's history that law
Speaker 5: enforcement was charged with federal civil rights violations federally, and
Speaker 5: they were all found not guilty. My dad went to trial.
Speaker 5: His indictment was backdated from February eighth to February sixth.
Speaker 5: All the charges were dismissed except for one, and he
Speaker 5: was charged, tried, and convicted of rioting, and my father
Speaker 5: became the first and only one man riot in the
Speaker 5: history of this country. He ended up serving a year
Speaker 5: of hard labor. And we have this amazing picture of
Speaker 5: my dad where he's sitting with his prison blues on
Speaker 5: and he has this white little uh prison number on
Speaker 5: and my mom sitting beside him, and Uh, it's the
Speaker 5: first time my dad saw his daughter. My sister's name
Speaker 5: is no seasway Abida Ma sellers abide me means born
Speaker 5: while father's away. And it was a powerful picture. He
Speaker 5: was feeding my sister and they took that photo on
Speaker 5: you know you're old enoughing thank you polaroid, Uh, polaroid.
Speaker 5: At the time, another inmate took it, and that was
Speaker 5: the first time my father was able to lay eyes
Speaker 5: on my sister was in the prison cell. And so
Speaker 5: you know somebody who has seen all those things, Jimmy
Speaker 5: Lee Jackson, MegaR Emmett, all those things very close with King.
Speaker 5: King actually performed my dad's first wedding in the basement
Speaker 5: of I joke with my dad. He didn't find it
Speaker 5: funny I don't think, but King don't didn't get everything right.
Speaker 5: I mean he did the first wed and it lasted
Speaker 5: like six months. But he was very close with King
Speaker 5: and very close with Stokely and Julian and all of
Speaker 5: those heroes in Heroin. Shout out to Judy Richardson at
Speaker 5: the Snake Project over there, Marion Barry, Uncle Mary, and
Speaker 5: I was really close with Marion Barry. And so that
Speaker 5: was my village. I'm a product that probably takes a
Speaker 5: village to raise a child. My village was unique because
Speaker 5: it had people like Uncle Jesse. Who is Jesse Jackson.
Speaker 5: I shout out to Uncle Jesse was born in nineteen
Speaker 5: forty one, I believe, and his birthday is October eighth,
Speaker 5: So shout out to Uncle Jesse on his birthday. And
Speaker 5: I think that down South, you give people their flowers
Speaker 5: while they're living. Amen. Yeah, and so I want to
Speaker 5: do that. And you know, I have grown to define myself.
Speaker 5: Contrary to what Andrew may say that I don't like
Speaker 5: to necessarily write my own obituary. I think when people
Speaker 5: go up and start reading all these accolades, that's for
Speaker 5: other people to say. But I do define and my
Speaker 5: my number one and two and one A is very clear.
Speaker 5: That's my husband. In one B is I'm a father,
Speaker 5: and so Sadie, Stokely and Kai Or you'll hear me
Speaker 5: talk about them a lot on the show, because they
Speaker 5: are my world. Is the reason I can never put
Speaker 5: my phone on D and D. It's the reason that
Speaker 5: my anxiety level is always high. It's the reason that
Speaker 5: I understand freedom as a concept that we'll talk about
Speaker 5: a lot, because I can't be free until we all
Speaker 5: are free, and so I look forward to it. You know,
Speaker 5: my story is just as complex as as all of
Speaker 5: you all. You never know what people go through, and
Speaker 5: I think that we have to be able to put
Speaker 5: ourselves in the shoes of others every now and then.
Speaker 5: I do too.
Speaker 2: Cliff knows he's royalty, civil rights royalty.
Speaker 5: I won't run from that, I know. I'm just saying, yeah,
Speaker 5: I definitely won't run from that, because I think those
Speaker 5: stories are, those stories are, and the further we get
Speaker 5: away from them. And for people of us a generation
Speaker 5: who are watching, my challenge to all of you all
Speaker 5: is like you were challenging younger generation on the Breakfast Club.
Speaker 5: My challenge the older, more seasoned folks is go down
Speaker 5: to Walgreens or Dwayne Read or CBS or whatever you got,
Speaker 5: get one of them little eighty nine cent composition notebooks
Speaker 5: and begin to write your story, because there is an
Speaker 5: entire generation of folks who birthed us and raised us
Speaker 5: whose stories aren't being told and they're not yeah.
Speaker 4: Or they told them and that their books are banned,
Speaker 4: or they told them and they were on websites where
Speaker 4: you know, the federal government is deciding what should be
Speaker 4: history or not, and that is in and of itself violence.
Speaker 4: So you know, in a land in the era where
Speaker 4: facts in and of themselves are now arguable debatable, it
Speaker 4: is most important if we have to go back to
Speaker 4: what it means to be agree on that.
Speaker 7: So I'll do it. Then.
Speaker 1: You know, it's interesting because you and Vacari both descend
Speaker 1: from activiststy right.
Speaker 5: Let me just take you right. I love that show
Speaker 5: and whenever he asked me to be on that show,
Speaker 5: I still get the I still get the emails. I'm
Speaker 5: on the email list. I didn't know that Eddie Virginia
Speaker 5: had an email list, but I got one and I
Speaker 5: still follow it on have you been on a jet?
Speaker 2: I haven't. I've been advising, but we haven't. And how
Speaker 2: many times I say yes every time?
Speaker 5: Trust me? The indvice coming this week and and I
Speaker 5: follow it on Facebook and I just I love I
Speaker 5: love me some Eddie Virginia and people. You have to
Speaker 5: remember that the sacrifices that we paid. Remember he was
Speaker 5: telling me a story about uh, his efforts to get
Speaker 5: a king day in Seattle, right, And you just don't,
Speaker 5: you don't. You don't know the struggles. That we're so
Speaker 5: disconnected sometimes that you don't know the struggles. And I
Speaker 5: would love to read that stuff.
Speaker 2: And you and Angela like it should come as no
Speaker 2: surprise to your parents and people who knew you all
Speaker 2: come and growing. You have a choice around no choice,
Speaker 2: how the depth that would at which you feel these issues,
Speaker 2: the consequences that are not yet felt but can be
Speaker 2: predicted as a result of the actions that power takes,
Speaker 2: and also how to negotiate your way around it to
Speaker 2: get the result that you want. I think I think
Speaker 2: we should never run from legacy within our upbringing. Some
Speaker 2: people attempt to try to make you feel bad for
Speaker 2: having had certain lived experiences that you are in some
Speaker 2: way not connected because of that lived experience. Well, you
Speaker 2: may not share the same lived experience as everybody, but
Speaker 2: you've got one that I think is important and powerful
Speaker 2: that we have to uplift and also platform in our
Speaker 2: community and those who have come through the legacy of
Speaker 2: people who were front line fighters on the civil rights movement.
Speaker 2: Now everybody is today, right, except when you consider you know,
Speaker 2: you know, close to five percent of us who had
Speaker 2: the opportunity to be active in as Black Americans weren't.
Speaker 2: And that's okay because people have to negotiate their involvement
Speaker 2: from the space in which they're at and for some people,
Speaker 2: losing your job was what was on the line that
Speaker 2: story or life.
Speaker 5: You're right, you know, I was saying that story you
Speaker 5: were telling us is fascinating because I think we teach
Speaker 5: leadership really perversely in this country, which is a whole
Speaker 5: other conversation, because we always try to denote leadership as
Speaker 5: being defined by how many followers do you have, when
Speaker 5: like leadership begets other leaders That's how I that's what
Speaker 5: they taught us at more House.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm glad you were taught, thank you.
Speaker 5: But but I do think that when you have you know,
Speaker 5: when you write history or look back at history, and
Speaker 5: it's rewritten you look at particularly black folk. Everybody talks
Speaker 5: about how they were part of the movie. Everybody talks
Speaker 5: about how they work with teams when less than one
Speaker 5: of them was actually there. And that's why I tell
Speaker 5: young folks all the time, leadership's really lonely. Like I
Speaker 5: was reading Condoleeza rasis autobiography, and you know her her
Speaker 5: parents were Baptist ministers in Birmingham, Alabama, and they were
Speaker 5: part of a group of individuals who King was like
Speaker 5: talking to an a letter from the Birmingham jail. They
Speaker 5: were a group of individuals who were like.
Speaker 2: I knew that before you said.
Speaker 5: It, Like no, don't come, I.
Speaker 2: Do that before you said it. These were the folks
Speaker 2: who said not here, chaos here.
Speaker 4: I just I wanted to shift gears quickly back to you,
Speaker 4: because this is going to be probably the one time
Speaker 4: where you get to have most of the attention focused
Speaker 4: on you and on one thing that I appreciate about
Speaker 4: you and Andrew, given that you're two different people, is
Speaker 4: how you all represent black fatherhood. The ways in which
Speaker 4: you are are very very present in your kids' lives.
Speaker 4: I was very fortunate to have a very very active
Speaker 4: father too. He couldn't do hair, he didn't make my lunch,
Speaker 4: but he did everything else. He go buy it like
Speaker 4: everything else. So I want you to talk a little bit.
Speaker 4: You talked about how they're your world. They've contributed to
Speaker 4: your anxiety, but there's some other parts of you that
Speaker 4: they've also helped you to under fold and uncover.
Speaker 7: What has fatherhood done?
Speaker 4: How has it reshaped who you are and how you
Speaker 4: show up in the or up?
Speaker 5: Well, it changes your life everything because you somebody once
Speaker 5: said it, and I think it was a comedian, I
Speaker 5: think who stated that when he got a when he
Speaker 5: had a daughter, Now, when he had a son, it
Speaker 5: showed that he would die for someone, and then when
Speaker 5: he had his daughter, it showed that he would kill
Speaker 5: for someone. Like and I got him. I got him
Speaker 5: both at the same time. But I also had this
Speaker 5: amazing young lady in my life when she was three
Speaker 5: and I was still figuring out life. I was twenty three. Kai,
Speaker 5: who is I guess that math? I don't do math. Well,
Speaker 5: maybe that'll work out, maybe it won't. But she was
Speaker 5: three when I met her, and she's my bonus daughter,
Speaker 5: and so there's a there. You know, the modern family
Speaker 5: is so different now sure, I mean, and so you know,
Speaker 5: you have these preconceived notions about what it is to
Speaker 5: be with the woman who has a child, How you
Speaker 5: accept that child, how that child accepts she you, How
Speaker 5: your family looks like I love Vince, Vince's is my
Speaker 5: daughter's father, and we'd family. I love Vince's mom, we'd family.
Speaker 5: It's like the family just it looked in twenty twenty five.
Speaker 5: It just looks different. We're all there to provide this
Speaker 5: environment of comfort, care, nourishment, nurse sustenance, substance for Kai.
Speaker 5: And she's doing amazing at Howard right, and then you
Speaker 5: have these two little rugrats running around here losing teeth.
Speaker 5: You know. I send Sadie to school and she has
Speaker 5: her hair slicked back one and then you're I'm like,
Speaker 5: what child? Did you get jumped? Like?
Speaker 2: Does she start putting purses in the bag?
Speaker 5: We have purses and we have Lula boos yo.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, you forget it.
Speaker 2: Yes, that one that's exactly too much money?
Speaker 5: What you call it?
Speaker 8: Just so?
Speaker 5: Was it? They only naomisaka just sound a huge deal. Whatever.
Speaker 5: So we're doing all that. She came out and make everything.
Speaker 5: She's gorgeous. She went through a liver transplant. She's strong,
Speaker 5: she still wears her scar with pride. She takes her
Speaker 5: you know, five emails attacker in the morning and at night.
Speaker 5: And then Stokely is just like you know, don't you. Yeah,
Speaker 5: He's like, no, he's my dad, He's real chill. It's
Speaker 5: like Stokely is like, I'm gonna just sit over here
Speaker 5: and chill out and relax and you know if you
Speaker 5: need me any smiles at everything, and that's his natural disposition. So,
Speaker 5: you know, having children, I don't I'd love to hear
Speaker 5: what Andrew says, but it just makes you, It just
Speaker 5: makes you kind of recalibrate because you begin to you
Speaker 5: really live for something else.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean. The only thing I add and it
Speaker 2: is probably I hope it's probably true for you, is
Speaker 2: I was told us like wearing your heart outside your
Speaker 2: body with all the elements having access to it, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and not being able to control what will happen to it.
Speaker 2: And so my kids are an appendane of any organ
Speaker 2: that's vi to my living and you can't protect them
Speaker 2: from everything. Yeah, like that elements impact your outside. The
Speaker 2: wind comes to snow, the whatever, and maybe you can
Speaker 2: put a raincoat on. Maybe you can shelter it a
Speaker 2: little bit, but buy in lage is going to do
Speaker 2: what it's going to do. And so that to have
Speaker 2: so much controlling and no control about their safety and security, that's.
Speaker 7: That's generally got.
Speaker 5: That's that's amazing because I thought you were emotionally stunned.
Speaker 2: So this is yeah, yeah, especially around you, I am.
Speaker 5: Vulnerable, vulnerable.
Speaker 2: You clearly have missed out.
Speaker 5: That's why we always say that we fill our house
Speaker 5: with love, as you probably do as well. Just pour
Speaker 5: into black boys as much as possible, fill the house
Speaker 5: with love, because when they leave that, when they leave
Speaker 5: their nest, I just think it's it's different. And I'm
Speaker 5: not I don't do the oppression Olympics, but I'm very
Speaker 5: cognizant that I recognized that the plight of being a
Speaker 5: black male in this country is is one that becomes
Speaker 5: arduous and one that some just don't grasp. But also
Speaker 5: I married well and I output in my coverage as
Speaker 5: we say, and Ellen gets mad at me for saying this,
Speaker 5: but one of the reasons, if not the thing that
Speaker 5: was most attractive when coming together as a partnership, and
Speaker 5: I believe marriages are partnerships. Was the fundamental fact that
Speaker 5: I was able to see how she raised Kai and
Speaker 5: she was such a good mom that I wanted I
Speaker 5: could see myself with someone. And then she's always like,
Speaker 5: why is number one always about you know, my child?
Speaker 5: It's not about the way I treat you like that
Speaker 5: because for me and for us, that is it's I
Speaker 5: can't really I can't separate it, right, I mean I
Speaker 5: can't separate of course, the way you love me, you
Speaker 5: care for me, you hold me, those type of things,
Speaker 5: all those you know when I take the honeypack and
Speaker 5: all those things.
Speaker 2: The next episode.
Speaker 5: But but it's also it's also the way that you
Speaker 5: are able to be a parent. And you know, everybody
Speaker 5: can be a mom, I guess, but being a mother
Speaker 5: and being a good mother is something that I look
Speaker 5: at it as a skill and a talent.
Speaker 1: It is, it is, And you both have TWINSS.
Speaker 5: We paid for hours, well, I contributed to Yeah, I
Speaker 5: did too. You know how many times I was in
Speaker 5: that dark room.
Speaker 2: Times room was lit.
Speaker 5: I was in a room with a VHS just as
Speaker 5: on a chair, magazine chairs, Yes, I mean this is
Speaker 5: one of them.
Speaker 2: However, from any other support.
Speaker 5: This is but women don't know what we go to
Speaker 5: don't want to because you don't want to, but people don't.
Speaker 5: People don't know that you don't. I mean, you start,
Speaker 5: you know, you know how many people that room is used?
Speaker 9: Yeah?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I think about the hotel.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well more on that on Native Land after Dark.
Speaker 1: But honestly, just welcome home. I'm so thrilled to have
Speaker 1: you part of this show. Honestly for our audience. Angela
Speaker 1: always envisioned this force in here to be part of
Speaker 1: this show. I did read a lot of your the
Speaker 1: Quad pod. Angela dropped one of the comments in our
Speaker 1: group chat because I the plan was. Angela was like
Speaker 1: saying it was our last show as a trio, and people,
Speaker 1: you know, took that the show was over, but we
Speaker 1: were being cheeky and the point was there was going
Speaker 1: to be no more podcasts. That was like our little
Speaker 1: cheeky thing. And so when Andrew responded in the comments
Speaker 1: as a part of our cheeky game, like Angela, really,
Speaker 1: why did you do.
Speaker 7: It this way?
Speaker 1: We were supposed to do it together, and Angela's like
Speaker 1: lead in the comments you could text me. I just
Speaker 1: jumped in because I wanted to be a part of it.
Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, exactly, Andrew, I'm going to
Speaker 1: respond to this on Thursday and said, messing it up.
Speaker 5: It was.
Speaker 4: I was like, I said, you tell me when and where, Like, okay,
Speaker 4: you got a podcast.
Speaker 6: But that comment that you dropped, the one that was like,
Speaker 6: this is has Angela all over it?
Speaker 7: Yeah, we have.
Speaker 4: We have some listeners who are so faithful they know
Speaker 4: what part of everybody played. So they were like, this
Speaker 4: has Angela mischief written all over it.
Speaker 2: Uh.
Speaker 4: The fact that Tiffany came in, she's too nice, she
Speaker 4: couldn't hold the hold the storyline. And then they were like,
Speaker 4: in the fact that Andrew commented on anything, there's a
Speaker 4: dig giveaway, it's a dig giveaway shadow account, you know, Andrew,
Speaker 4: this might have been her Kevin Durant moment, because now
Speaker 4: that I'm thinking about it, the fact that she even
Speaker 4: made herself nice in the comment means that might have
Speaker 4: been Tiffany's shadow account.
Speaker 5: I was in an airport and it was a small airport,
Speaker 5: so it might have been. It was Jacksonville or Tampa,
Speaker 5: and I was at a I was walking by and
Speaker 5: I kept hearing this voice. It was loud, and the
Speaker 5: lady was like Andrew, Andrew, and I didn't turn around
Speaker 5: right and here she comes. She was coming out of subway.
Speaker 5: She was working. She stopped making this person sandwich. Oh
Speaker 5: my goodness, in the middle of the sandwich, and she
Speaker 5: came and she tapped me on. She said, Andrew, I
Speaker 5: voted for you. And I turned around and looked at it,
Speaker 5: and I said, thank you. Please please keep me in
Speaker 5: your prayers, she said. She said, was nice as head.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, they gonna know what me then, yes, yes.
Speaker 1: All right, Well people want to know how you feel
Speaker 1: about things. So let's shift and get into the show.
Speaker 1: One thing that I think we've all been really concerned
Speaker 1: about is this federal takeover of black cities. And unfortunately
Speaker 1: we had so much going on that we did not
Speaker 1: get a chance to get to what was happening in
Speaker 1: Chicago on our last episode. And I am personally devastated
Speaker 1: and terrified about what's happening there. Just this week, Donald
Speaker 1: Trump has threatened to arrest the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson,
Speaker 1: and the governor Governor Pritser.
Speaker 7: And it's just frightening.
Speaker 6: But for our viewers, take a listen.
Speaker 1: This is sound from residents in this area where our
Speaker 1: own government descended from Blackhawk helicopters and seized this housing
Speaker 1: unit and zip tied children burst into apartments, just something unimaginable.
Speaker 1: So for all the people that was like, this ain't
Speaker 1: our business. This business has literally come knocking down our
Speaker 1: front door.
Speaker 8: The alarming scenes coming out of Chicago. There was this
Speaker 8: early morning raid of an apartment building earlier this week
Speaker 8: that evolved around three hundred federal agents, including those repelling
Speaker 8: down from a black Hawk helicopter. As the Chicago Sun
Speaker 8: Times reports quote, armed federal agents and military fatigues busted
Speaker 8: down their doors overnight, pulling men, women and children from
Speaker 8: their apartments, some of them naked. Residents and witnesses said
Speaker 8: agents approached or entered nearly every apartment in this fire
Speaker 8: story building, and US citizens were among those.
Speaker 5: Detained for hours.
Speaker 8: Agents claimed the neighborhood was quote a location known to
Speaker 8: be frequented by Trinda Uragua members and their associates. DHS,
Speaker 8: of course, gave no evidence to support that assertion, and
Speaker 8: authorities did not confirm that any of the people arrested
Speaker 8: were members of the Venezuelan gang.
Speaker 10: They were terrified, the kids was crying, people were screaming.
Speaker 7: They looked very destraughted.
Speaker 10: I was out there crime when I seen the little
Speaker 10: girl come around the corner because they was bringing the
Speaker 10: kids down to had them zipsides to each other, and
Speaker 10: that's all I kept asking, what is the morality? Where's
Speaker 10: the human One of them literally left. He was standing
Speaker 10: right here, he said, some.
Speaker 11: Keep Meanwhile, Friday, federal agents handcuffed Chicago alder person Jesse
Speaker 11: Flentis and briefly detained her. When she asked if they
Speaker 11: had a signed warrant for a man they were trying
Speaker 11: to detain at a hospital, she has.
Speaker 1: A sign.
Speaker 5: Turn around turnun.
Speaker 6: You were going to be placed under.
Speaker 2: Do you have a sign?
Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, let me just say that
Speaker 5: I think that the leadership is being displayed on the
Speaker 5: front lines of the Democratic Party is something that is admirable.
Speaker 5: And when I say the front lines, I'm not talking
Speaker 5: about Washington, d C. I'm talking about what you're seeing
Speaker 5: with Brandon Scott in Baltimore, what you're seeing with Andre
Speaker 5: Dickens in Atlanta, Frank Scott and little Rock Randall Woofing.
Speaker 5: And I am not I have not been a big
Speaker 5: fan of Brandon Johnson in Chicago. I wasn't. I thought
Speaker 5: that the job was too big for him. I was
Speaker 5: very critical of him, have been very critical of him,
Speaker 5: however during this time, and he's like found his footing
Speaker 5: and you know the way that he's displayed and we're
Speaker 5: not gonna always agree, and you know, it is what
Speaker 5: it is. But the strength and courage that he's kind
Speaker 5: of led his city through this time period, I believe
Speaker 5: shows and different moments are met from different type of leaders.
Speaker 5: And I questioned his ability to lead got when he
Speaker 5: got elected in his first few months, but this moment,
Speaker 5: he's really rising to that occasion. And I think that
Speaker 5: because from the outside. This is where you know, you
Speaker 5: guys may differ from the outside. When you ask just
Speaker 5: the typical person that you bump into on the street
Speaker 5: how they feel about the National Guard or somebody coming
Speaker 5: in to help them tamp down on crime, which they
Speaker 5: all know is a real thing, They're gonna be like,
Speaker 5: that's fine, bring it on in whatever. I want crime
Speaker 5: to be out of my communities as well. I don't
Speaker 5: want my grandson or whatever. So listening to the mayors
Speaker 5: who are on the front lines of the city, who
Speaker 5: are actually articulating what's going on, why this is bad,
Speaker 5: et cetera. These should be the messengers that we platform,
Speaker 5: not the talking heads that we listen to normally on
Speaker 5: this issue.
Speaker 2: That's fair, you know.
Speaker 4: I think first of all, I think Brandon Johnson should
Speaker 4: do a masterclass on how to handle when you're you know,
Speaker 4: being faced with the National Guard, any national law enforcement
Speaker 4: invading your city, because he's been phenomenal. Even the idea
Speaker 4: of like ice being stopped by ice trucks, like I
Speaker 4: loved it, Like he was like, We're gonna barricade off
Speaker 4: the streets with the ice trucks. I have to say
Speaker 4: that I think one, I can't believe that we're here
Speaker 4: in this moment where this is actually like a real conversation.
Speaker 4: Mostly they've mostly targeted black run cities. It is forcing us,
Speaker 4: I think the one positive. It is forcing us to
Speaker 4: unite and figure out how to have strategies around best
Speaker 4: practices with people who are not our body politic who
Speaker 4: we don't normally agree with, and those mayors that who
Speaker 4: don't normally agree there have there being faced with the
Speaker 4: same set of circumstances. There is some polling out though
Speaker 4: that says that people don't want national law enforcement in
Speaker 4: their cities. So maybe they thought the National Guard was
Speaker 4: going to appear one way. But right now in Chicago
Speaker 4: it is the Texas National Guard.
Speaker 7: It ain't Illinois, you know it is.
Speaker 4: So I just I think that somebody somewhere, some somewhere
Speaker 4: deep it feels like, okay, now, y'all in our business?
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.
Speaker 7: And I think it's just in some really inappropriate line.
Speaker 5: Why did you not? Why did you? Why can't you
Speaker 5: believe we're here? Because you said that? Because I mean,
Speaker 5: Kamla told us what, she literally said that they were
Speaker 5: going to.
Speaker 4: Be We told people too, We told people too. I think,
Speaker 4: you know, as I I told y'all earlier, I really
Speaker 4: think it's the pace. It's a break neck pace. I
Speaker 4: can't keep up. And I thought one probably part of
Speaker 4: it is, like you know, they say, you can't change
Speaker 4: anything until you accept it. I'm having a hard time
Speaker 4: just accepting this is our reality, and I'm mad about it.
Speaker 7: So there's a deep.
Speaker 4: Seated resentment and bitterness about where we are. So that's
Speaker 4: probably a part of it. That if I am to
Speaker 4: accept where we are, I'm still like, I can't believe
Speaker 4: that the number of people who won't push back, who
Speaker 4: won't take the time to fight every single battle with
Speaker 4: every fiber of their being.
Speaker 7: I don't get it. I just don't get it.
Speaker 2: I agree with you around disbelief around being here. Yeah,
Speaker 2: part of the disbelief around being at this moment for
Speaker 2: me is contrary to history. In this country, the various
Speaker 2: branches of government generally act to protect themselves, to protect
Speaker 2: their power and not to see it. So presidents, regardless
Speaker 2: of party affiliation, they protect the executive branch, They protect
Speaker 2: the executive of the presidency, the legislative branch per texts
Speaker 2: the legislative power of that branch, and it doesn't matter
Speaker 2: if their president is of the same party or not.
Speaker 2: They are going to preserve their power. They don't give
Speaker 2: it away. The judicial branch the weakest supposedly of the branches,
Speaker 2: because they don't have the power of the purse and
Speaker 2: they don't have a military to then enforce their decisions.
Speaker 2: Their power only comes to the acceptance of people's ability
Speaker 2: and willingness to accept their decisions. So the fact that
Speaker 2: of all three branches collapsing, the judiciary happens to be
Speaker 2: the one that it seems to be staving off the
Speaker 2: total collapse by itself, and by the way, to be
Speaker 2: more specific, the judges under the Supreme Court happen to
Speaker 2: be the ones staving off a complete and total collapse
Speaker 2: of every branch of government, bending the need to the executive.
Speaker 2: The reason the frame has created three coequal branches of
Speaker 2: government was not to put set one power above the other.
Speaker 2: And what we've now done is he said, forget the
Speaker 2: democratic experiment doesn't work. We prefer autocracy. They have they have,
Speaker 2: they have conceded their power. It's not even consult they're
Speaker 2: not jointly managing. The executive is doing what he's doing,
Speaker 2: and every every every of the branch appears to be
Speaker 2: collapsing to it. The other thing that is enraging to
Speaker 2: me about that that imagery that we just saw is
Speaker 2: when does the military decide that they are enforcing an
Speaker 2: unjust and illegal order They are admonished to hear the
Speaker 2: to follow the commands of the commander in chief when
Speaker 2: they are lawful orders. When do they decide that the
Speaker 2: orders that they're carrying out are not lawful? Because the man,
Speaker 2: the military person who was sitting there laughing and saying,
Speaker 2: forget those kids.
Speaker 1: Yes, the others who.
Speaker 2: Are putting handcuffs on elected officials who are in public
Speaker 2: places and being told that they are now trespassing on
Speaker 2: what are public places? The Chicago City Council, I'm sure,
Speaker 2: puts millions toward their local hospital. She got more of
Speaker 2: a right to be there than they have to be there.
Speaker 1: Absolutely.
Speaker 2: So my fury right now is with those of us
Speaker 2: who are in the system who have a role to play,
Speaker 2: a duty to carry out. When does their humanity show
Speaker 2: up in a way that says, you know what, it's
Speaker 2: an order, but this is an unjust in an illegal order,
Speaker 2: and I will.
Speaker 12: Not carry about.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think people are tired because as much
Speaker 5: as that enrages you, I think about the federal workers
Speaker 5: who are without a job trying to figure out how
Speaker 5: to make their ends meet sure because of Medicaid cuts.
Speaker 5: Thinking about those people who don't have access to care
Speaker 5: or who are working at those places. Now, I mean,
Speaker 5: there's just and to your point, I think that's what
Speaker 5: Donald Trump does extremely well. And I don't know if
Speaker 5: it's Trump that's probably giving them too much credit, but
Speaker 5: Steven Miller does extremely well, which has flood his own
Speaker 5: They just put so much out there on us that
Speaker 5: it makes people extremely weary, and that's what we're seeing
Speaker 5: right now. I also think it's all to cover up
Speaker 5: the Epstein files, but.
Speaker 2: I see I think its I think it cheapens what
Speaker 2: they're doing to blame Epstein alone. It is no doubt
Speaker 2: a part of it. I think it is a convenient
Speaker 2: part of it. I think their intention has always been
Speaker 2: toward autocracy. The right wing has been writing papers, memos
Speaker 2: about the power of the Supreme Executive. I mean, they
Speaker 2: have a theory.
Speaker 5: But this is how I view this conversation with right
Speaker 5: all right now, we've already said because the first person
Speaker 5: actually bring up the Epstein files was Donald Trump in
Speaker 5: twenty fifteen. Clinton, this is this is the first person
Speaker 5: to bring it right. And so he made all of
Speaker 5: these promises. They brought everybody. I don't know if you remember,
Speaker 5: they had all these right wing influences with these notebooks
Speaker 5: and they held them up. And then Pam Bondi went
Speaker 5: on TV and they were talking about the list, and
Speaker 5: she said, it's right on my desk, I'm reviewing it,
Speaker 5: contrary to what she said this week in her Oversight
Speaker 5: Committee hearing. And I think what happened was there was
Speaker 5: a conversation being had in the White House about the
Speaker 5: Epstein files and how this is really really because you
Speaker 5: have Marjorie Taylor Green. You had all these individuals asking
Speaker 5: for him to be released, the right wing, lower lumin
Speaker 5: everybody asking for it to be released. And they said,
Speaker 5: where do we poll? Well, we need to we gotta,
Speaker 5: we gotta figure out we pull well on crime. All right,
Speaker 5: what do you want to do. Let's send some National
Speaker 5: Guard into some cities. We talked about doing it. Let's
Speaker 5: continue to do this. Where do we poll? Well? You know,
Speaker 5: you you took off those things and you begin to
Speaker 5: flood the zone. I actually think that, Yeah, I think
Speaker 5: it has been written for years. But I think the
Speaker 5: impetus to do it now is to because they were panicked.
Speaker 2: The reason I rejected, and by the way, I hope,
Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't matter the motivation in the long run.
Speaker 5: And if they see that none of this will matter.
Speaker 5: I forget her name, so they see the what's her name?
Speaker 2: The member of Congress suit, and then they'll get the
Speaker 2: floor vote.
Speaker 12: Yes.
Speaker 2: But but but I think the reason why it is
Speaker 2: not helpful to make that the motivation or anything else
Speaker 2: really is that it removes it lessens the consequence. It
Speaker 2: almost erases the very deadly in detrimental impacts their actions
Speaker 2: are having on our entire system of democracy. From this
Speaker 2: point forward, no democratic Republican I don't know that we'll
Speaker 2: ever see a president come into office who tries to
Speaker 2: give back what Donald Trump has cleaved through the executive branch.
Speaker 2: They never lose their power once it's a newer, once
Speaker 2: that power is a newer to the executive We've never
Speaker 2: known a president who says, I want to give back
Speaker 2: this executive power. I want to give back the ability
Speaker 2: to send the military. I want to give all that
Speaker 2: stuff and stays with the officer. And I don't trust
Speaker 2: not one of them sons of bitches with it.
Speaker 7: Well, and here's the thing.
Speaker 4: The invasion isn't just happening in our states and cities.
Speaker 4: Is also happening on college campuses. And to that end,
Speaker 4: we have a clip of what's happening with Blexit, especially
Speaker 4: around HBCU homecoming.
Speaker 5: Like the way you move in this.
Speaker 3: Primited But what we created, all knowledge, we created our frights,
Speaker 3: we created 'all.
Speaker 11: That not even do.
Speaker 5: Besides this, y'all didn't.
Speaker 13: Do anything.
Speaker 6: Showing them the door were walking them to the door, y'all.
Speaker 7: I don't even know how they got on campus. We're
Speaker 7: gonna figure that out, but I don't know.
Speaker 4: They need to get like a trespassed like penalty or something.
Speaker 14: Because sending them off selling that was gonna come up
Speaker 14: like yeah, yeah, that good job.
Speaker 7: I wanted to play this.
Speaker 4: This is actually at Tennessee State University, where students were
Speaker 4: like not on our watch. There are actually I think
Speaker 4: it was three white guys with MAGA who went onto
Speaker 4: the campus set up a table for debate, and where
Speaker 4: I think we're really expecting during HBCU homecoming, blexit has
Speaker 4: announced the tour. We're expecting our students to keep the
Speaker 4: same energy, at least I am. Let's see what my
Speaker 4: co hosts say. I want them to keep the same
Speaker 4: energy offt them off.
Speaker 6: If you say that.
Speaker 2: Thousand. The reason why it this fight gets so removed
Speaker 2: from everyday people, the way in which we're even you know,
Speaker 2: dealing with the pot what branch of government functions in
Speaker 2: which way this conversation you're going to you're gonna come
Speaker 2: and provo, You're gonna be a provocateur to me on
Speaker 2: my HBCU campus, reminding me that I'm not dirt right.
Speaker 2: I'm not even equal to dirt right. These folks are
Speaker 2: having to develop their own talking points, their own pushback,
Speaker 2: They're having to use their own lived experience to delegitimize
Speaker 2: these three white provocateurs who have come under their campus
Speaker 2: and tell them that there's something that they're not. But
Speaker 2: their experience is something.
Speaker 4: If it's not that, let me set this up a
Speaker 4: little differently. We know what happened at TSU. What is
Speaker 4: a little different about this Bleckxit, which is black exit
Speaker 4: from the Democratic Party. If we contextualize with those people
Speaker 4: set up with turning point, I'm not even naming them,
Speaker 4: but if we are to contextualize this, it is black people,
Speaker 4: blackfaces who are going to various HBCU homecomings, inviting our students,
Speaker 4: our young people in the conversation around conservative policy. And
Speaker 4: so it's slightly different than the three white boys to
Speaker 4: go in set of shop at TSU.
Speaker 2: No, they went to do the same thing. They laid
Speaker 2: out these pamphlets and wanted to talk about how they
Speaker 2: their idea is more beneficial to black people. And what
Speaker 2: I'm saying is it is helpful to us for all
Speaker 2: of our people to deepen into why it is they
Speaker 2: believe what they believe to be able to articulate in
Speaker 2: their own words, why your agenda doesn't work for me,
Speaker 2: because otherwise they wait for the politician to show up
Speaker 2: on the campus, on the HPC campus during homecoming to
Speaker 2: talk about their race for office, X, Y, and Z,
Speaker 2: and guess what Once that campaign's over, that thing is
Speaker 2: off and what stays is that I've developed my argument.
Speaker 2: I know why I feel the way that I feel.
Speaker 5: It came by the mind. It's not going to comment
Speaker 5: on the reaction people should have when they come on
Speaker 5: campus that you know that that is what it is.
Speaker 5: Either you can sit down with them or you can
Speaker 5: run them off. That's But there's a young lady in
Speaker 5: Columbia South care Line. Her name's Diane Sumter, and she
Speaker 5: I don't know how old she is. She's more seasoned though.
Speaker 5: Shout out to Diane Sumter. But she's been around politics
Speaker 5: for a long time and she's somebody that you know
Speaker 5: when you run for office, you always want her on
Speaker 5: your side. She helps black folk get city contracts, goes
Speaker 5: through procurement, and she's been texting me about the same
Speaker 5: issue for a long time. She hit me on Friday time. Abow,
Speaker 5: good morning. You can draw the eighteen to twenty five
Speaker 5: year old black males to help them register voting. Believe
Speaker 5: in this democracy. I will help you. Your leadership can
Speaker 5: make a difference. Diane something ten o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 5: She's been texting about this just religiously. And while I
Speaker 5: hear about chasing them off campus or sitting down and
Speaker 5: engaging them, where are we in having these discussions where
Speaker 5: that vacuum exists? Yeah, And like like I hear you,
Speaker 5: and I'm like cool, At more House, They're probably more
Speaker 5: House is decently contrarian enough where there probably is one
Speaker 5: hundred black folk who will invite. I mean, we got
Speaker 5: to we have a Republican club, and we might even
Speaker 5: have a we might even have a talking point us
Speaker 5: a charter.
Speaker 7: Yeah, at turning.
Speaker 6: Point at one point. But that's saying there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so like we may have that as well. But
Speaker 5: like the question is, and you know it's then you
Speaker 5: then you have a bigger and broader question, like is
Speaker 5: it a new organization, what does this organization look like?
Speaker 5: How do we get funded? Is the NAACP nimble enough
Speaker 5: in their youth division like it used to be? You
Speaker 5: know where where are we in doing this? Are we
Speaker 5: training our HBCU, SGA presidents right to do these things
Speaker 5: and have these discussions? And so yeah, run them off campus.
Speaker 2: It's cool put them on, but what they did, they
Speaker 2: did just run them off campus. Though that brother at
Speaker 2: the beginning of the video was saying, all y'all did
Speaker 2: was still yes, we worked, we built, they deepened into
Speaker 2: a truck.
Speaker 4: But that's why I'm saying, I feel like if I
Speaker 4: want to come to you, That's why I feel like
Speaker 4: it's different because that is a conversation point that works
Speaker 4: with white people.
Speaker 7: Right. You can't say all y'all.
Speaker 4: Did was steal this this and we're talking to black people,
Speaker 4: So how does it change or ship?
Speaker 6: That's my polan.
Speaker 1: So I don't think you're going to change minds. You're
Speaker 1: not going to change hearts and minds. And so I
Speaker 1: want to hear from our viewers who are watching this,
Speaker 1: like how they think we should engage because of to
Speaker 1: me Andrew, I feel like you're giving them bodies, you're
Speaker 1: giving them faces. And so it looks like one of
Speaker 1: two things. One, it looks like you were able to
Speaker 1: attract this large crowd at an HBCU, which helps get
Speaker 1: them funding. Just for context, Turning Point was Charlie Kirk's
Speaker 1: organization that got funding from all types of conservative outlets.
Speaker 1: So you're saying, oh, look this is working because there's
Speaker 1: all these people. Two, if there's a lot of conflict,
Speaker 1: then it shows Oh it's mayhem at HBCU's when Turning
Speaker 1: Point shows up, we need to send a national guard,
Speaker 1: we need to send law enforcements to protect these white boys.
Speaker 1: Decrease funding or decrease funding or these black faces carrying
Speaker 1: white messaging to these campuses. So my personal opinion is
Speaker 1: I would love for them to show up and nobody
Speaker 1: engages them, like, don't let you're not going to disrupt
Speaker 1: our black joy at HBCU homecomings, Like that is the time.
Speaker 1: That's so lit, it's safe, it's fun. You know, people
Speaker 1: are watching the halftime show, people are on the yard,
Speaker 1: people you haven't seen in years, and we need to
Speaker 1: protect our black joy. But I'm saying, how does it
Speaker 1: look if they are sitting there by themselves talking to themselves.
Speaker 5: The point is that that ship is sale is.
Speaker 2: Getting to them anyway, it's sail.
Speaker 5: Because because of the way that we consume information now,
Speaker 5: in ways to them. And I don't have no Snapchat
Speaker 5: mainly because Ellen don't want me to have a snapchat
Speaker 5: because why are you talking to people? And your messages
Speaker 5: disappear at the thirty seconds? So I ain't really no
Speaker 5: need to have no snap Who you snapping? Right? So
Speaker 5: that's first. But like snapchat, TikTok, you know the way
Speaker 5: that people are communicating with each other now, I mean
Speaker 5: I'm on Instagram and you know, I feel like I'm
Speaker 5: a little too young to be using Facebook like that,
Speaker 5: but they're they're streaming. I mean, like we one of
Speaker 5: the examples I gave you Tysonot. You know, there was
Speaker 5: a question about whether or not Kamala Harris is gonna
Speaker 5: be able to sit down with Kaysonat He was on
Speaker 5: the front of Time magazine. Joe Rogan. You know, people are.
Speaker 1: You saying, is penetrating the minds of our young people?
Speaker 5: And that's what they not only is it penetrating the minds?
Speaker 5: And I would say that yes, the answer to your
Speaker 5: question directly is yes.
Speaker 6: Young fall in for y'all.
Speaker 5: The reason but the reason being is because it's the
Speaker 5: reaching reaching.
Speaker 6: There's no.
Speaker 5: It's like going drinking. There's one stripper at the strip club, right,
Speaker 5: regardless of what that stripper looks like, if she can
Speaker 5: dance whatever, because it's a vacuum and ain't nobody show
Speaker 5: up to work yet.
Speaker 2: I think Sean Pitman asks, sorry to interrupt the stripper.
Speaker 7: Yes, one says is.
Speaker 2: What are we pretending not to know? This is my
Speaker 2: im want to credit Sean Pittman with asking that question,
Speaker 2: because we're pretending not to know that this information is
Speaker 2: in mass taking up space in our community, on all
Speaker 2: the places and platforms in which we don't exist. I
Speaker 2: hear the talking points coming back at us. People are
Speaker 2: recycling them as if they're their own, even finding live
Speaker 2: experiences that they've had that they connect to these right
Speaker 2: wing talking points.
Speaker 6: That is so frightening to me.
Speaker 1: I can go out of touch and out of the
Speaker 1: loop because I did not think this messaging was pinished.
Speaker 7: Exactly. Let me if we can, y'all.
Speaker 4: I just I think this is a really good opportunity.
Speaker 4: We talked about the invasion of cities and colleges. I
Speaker 4: want to throw to one more example. Someone who teeters
Speaker 4: on the edge quite a bit shows up talking out
Speaker 4: of both sides of his mouth. He had this to
Speaker 4: say recently about Jasmine Crockett. Sometimes you get attacked by your.
Speaker 8: Own Jasmine Crockett chooses to express herself.
Speaker 2: I'm like, is that gonna help your district to Texas?
Speaker 2: Aren't you there to find a way to get stuff
Speaker 2: done as opposed to just being an impediment to what
Speaker 2: to what Trump wants? How much work goes into that.
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go off about Trump cuts him out
Speaker 2: every chance I get, say the most derogatory and sending
Speaker 2: everything's imaginable, and that's my day's work. That ain't work.
Speaker 2: He's got to deal with black woman issues, Oh my god,
Speaker 2: how large and whatever self hate exists within.
Speaker 5: Them, it's self hate before I've never seen a clip
Speaker 5: of him where he actually praises a black woman.
Speaker 2: That he's got black woman issue he's got to deal with.
Speaker 7: But for those who are listening that with Stephen A.
Speaker 4: Smith commentating about Jasmine Crockett's lack of work, for context,
Speaker 4: there was a poll that was recently done and Jasmine
Speaker 4: Crockett's approval numbers amongst the American people rival Barack Obamas
Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight. So, just for context, he
Speaker 4: is on an island unto himself because because people because
Speaker 4: people see her largely working on our behalf. And I
Speaker 4: also want to say we recently had Jasmine Crockett on
Speaker 4: It was on my solo pod, and Jasmine is on
Speaker 4: the show talking about having to go get.
Speaker 7: Fit for a bulletproof vest.
Speaker 4: So it is this is not the time for this,
Speaker 4: and it is very dangerous for this. So I hear
Speaker 4: you even on the danger even on campuses. But I
Speaker 4: wanted to bring this in because this is the kind
Speaker 4: of messaging they're hearing on their sports platforms, on talk
Speaker 4: radio all the time. There is a growing divide between
Speaker 4: black men and black women.
Speaker 1: Oh my god.
Speaker 7: And I think that some of them are also leaning
Speaker 7: more conservatives.
Speaker 1: From Texas and Texas has this open Carrie law Governor
Speaker 1: Abbott is such a dangerous, problematic false argument.
Speaker 2: Yes, how much attention is just taken away from you
Speaker 2: getting whatever you need for your district. The Republicans controlled
Speaker 2: the House of Representative to send it in the White House.
Speaker 2: They not letting her get ish for her districts. And
Speaker 2: so the best she can do right now, not just
Speaker 2: for her district, but for the country is to speak
Speaker 2: up and hold them to account at every single level.
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, but they would take that and taking
Speaker 6: like white.
Speaker 5: Men yea, And they think I think they think, no,
Speaker 5: I'm not just saying that snaps her fingers and and
Speaker 5: they caricature her like he's doing. And so my point
Speaker 5: though is that, yeah, I didn't I didn't like the
Speaker 5: back and forth with Jasmine Crockett and Nancy Mace or
Speaker 5: whoever it was, right, But.
Speaker 6: Nancy Mays is the one that got violent. She was
Speaker 6: the one.
Speaker 14: Yeah.
Speaker 5: I know them both. I know them both very well.
Speaker 5: And you know that just because I was a legislator.
Speaker 5: So I look at that, I look at that totally different. However,
Speaker 5: I will tell you that there is a through line
Speaker 5: between the ice Cubes and the Jason Whitlocks and the
Speaker 5: the stephen A. Smiths and these individuals and ice Cube
Speaker 5: may be slightly different than the other two, but these
Speaker 5: but these, but these individuals have been around since we
Speaker 5: have been on this freedom struggle. There have always been
Speaker 5: individuals out there which exhibit behaviors of Charlatan's who utilize
Speaker 5: you know, some people are in it for the change
Speaker 5: and some people are in it for the change, right,
Speaker 5: And I think that that's indicative. And they found they
Speaker 5: find the easiest path to the front of the line.
Speaker 5: And Stephen A. Smith is someone who doesn't have the
Speaker 5: depth to talk about house oversight or the appropriations process
Speaker 5: right and how you're able to bring resources back to
Speaker 5: your community, or what Jasmine is doing. So he rather
Speaker 5: lampoon her or instead of having a constructive conversation. And
Speaker 5: so I just I've said what I've had to say
Speaker 5: about Stephen A. Smith in my book anywhere I can.
Speaker 5: I don't have a lot of use for him in
Speaker 5: the political dialogue. I think that, you know, I think
Speaker 5: that they are individuals who he matriculated with at Winston
Speaker 5: Salem State University that are extremely disappointed about the man
Speaker 5: he's become.
Speaker 1: I just because we have an equal We have equity
Speaker 1: here among our gender divide, and it's so disheartening to me.
Speaker 1: It's frustrating one because anytime we speak on this, it's
Speaker 1: like we you know, man haters and all this. But
Speaker 1: I feel such confidence in black men. I've never brought
Speaker 1: into the idea that all these black men are voting
Speaker 1: for Trump like they vote overwhelmingly Demmrik, We're pretty much
Speaker 1: in line with each other. What you all are saying
Speaker 1: is no they are, and the data shows that there
Speaker 1: have been in roads among black men. I want to
Speaker 1: ask why because it is frustrating to me, and it
Speaker 1: feels heartbreaking to be honest, because we are impacted by
Speaker 1: this system as well. It's not a matter of who's
Speaker 1: impacted worse. We're impacted differently. We sit at the intersection
Speaker 1: of being black and being women, and so when men
Speaker 1: are frustrated with this system, it feels like they fight us,
Speaker 1: you know.
Speaker 6: And I would put Stephen A.
Speaker 1: Smith in that category too, Like I'm mad at y'all
Speaker 1: for having enjoy I'm mad at y'all for having success.
Speaker 1: I'm mad at y'all for surpassing us on college campuses.
Speaker 1: And so it's a small sect of men that are
Speaker 1: so angry and hurt that they're willing to align with
Speaker 1: the people who will oppress us. What am I getting wrong?
Speaker 1: Because if you listen to Stephen A. Smith and you
Speaker 1: find anything other than some absolute, pure self hating, little
Speaker 1: dick energy nonsense from that half witted idiot basking in
Speaker 1: the non existent raise of his own ignorance, it is
Speaker 1: sad to me that he even gets an audience of
Speaker 1: black men. Why are black men right now Sam stephen A. Smith,
Speaker 1: We've banned him. We not listening to his podcast, We're
Speaker 1: not watching his show anymore. That's what black women do.
Speaker 2: We organize.
Speaker 5: But do you ask the question why, Yes, tell me why.
Speaker 5: By the way, I love the usage of adjectives love me.
Speaker 6: I'm sure I messed it up somewhere.
Speaker 5: But the answer to the question why is it's kind
Speaker 5: of twofold. Black men showed up. We were the third
Speaker 5: largest demographic voting for You had black women, you had
Speaker 5: Jews as a collective, and then you had black men
Speaker 5: somewhere between seventy four to seventy six percent voting for
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris, and so yeah, it's not a large number.
Speaker 5: We still are there. But the slipp as you've seen,
Speaker 5: is twofold. The first is that there's been no party,
Speaker 5: no group which for the past twenty thirty years has
Speaker 5: taken the time to listen to black men holistically. And
Speaker 5: many times we are spoken to about policy. That policy
Speaker 5: revolves around things like criminal justice. But yeah, in marijuana.
Speaker 5: But very rarely, but very rarely, do we have wholesome,
Speaker 5: fullsome conversations about the black men who are out there
Speaker 5: struggling to pay for early childhood, education, child support? Right,
Speaker 5: you know how that age is? You know when you
Speaker 5: know the craziest thing is when you get locked up
Speaker 5: for child support. Do you know that your child support
Speaker 5: continues to grow like it it's your driver's license get suspended.
Speaker 2: Unbreakable cycle.
Speaker 5: It's an unbreakable cycle, right, I mean, just opportunity stem opportunity.
Speaker 5: So just having a holistic, fullsome conversation around black men
Speaker 5: is something that hasn't happened. The other thing is, which
Speaker 5: is a question that we have to answer and hopefully
Speaker 5: we will untangle it over the next you know, one
Speaker 5: hundred episodes. While you're here, certainly while I'm here, is
Speaker 5: there are a lot of black men who question whether
Speaker 5: or not they have the ability to breathe and lead
Speaker 5: in an era of black girl magic.
Speaker 2: I will say what I would add because I disagree
Speaker 2: in the latter point, but I do you agree to
Speaker 2: this one, which is I think black men want the
Speaker 2: bag too, and we on the democratic side don't talk
Speaker 2: about don't talk enough if at all, well, listen about
Speaker 2: how I'm will help you prosper What is prosperity for
Speaker 2: us look like? So if at every turn you're the
Speaker 2: deficit end of the equation. Every turn, somebody's got to
Speaker 2: do something for you. You're not making room. And one
Speaker 2: thing that Trump's agenda, I'm sorry, Trump's talking points appear
Speaker 2: to do is to put you on track or on
Speaker 2: alignment with getting a bag. I don't think that is
Speaker 2: wholesale widespread. Yeah, Stephen A. Smith, I think he does
Speaker 2: have issues with black women, but I also think the
Speaker 2: brothers also trying to get and maintain and grow a bag.
Speaker 2: And he's similar to a lot of the black Republicans
Speaker 2: who ideologically could not articulate anything worth mentioning, are out
Speaker 2: here caping because they're not in competition with the Bacari
Speaker 2: sellers or Andrew Gillip But but they're at the front
Speaker 2: of the line on that side because they're willing to
Speaker 2: say the things that white people think and don't get
Speaker 2: to say with license. But they got you cape and
Speaker 2: clown who's willing to say it, and they get rewarded him.
Speaker 5: But he looks he looks like money, he smells like money.
Speaker 5: He talks love. He knows Lebron, you know Lebron that
Speaker 5: can't stand him, you know, So he's there, he walks
Speaker 5: with a swag. He went to an HBCU, So he's
Speaker 5: the perfect messenger. And so yeah, when when people come
Speaker 5: to him because he looks like he doesn't look black
Speaker 5: men are always, always, always in the mode of survival always,
Speaker 5: and he looks like somebody who's thriving. So you're more
Speaker 5: inclined to listen to someone who has made it to
Speaker 5: It's an aspirational thing. So that that is the That
Speaker 5: is kind of the the why. Like if I if
Speaker 5: Stephen A. Smith comes up, you know, it's like if
Speaker 5: the question.
Speaker 2: Is why always.
Speaker 7: Willing? I think because I know where Tip is going.
Speaker 4: If you all are willing this Black Girl Magic conversation,
Speaker 4: I think this would be an excellent mini pod. What
Speaker 4: I would love to do if y'all are okay speaking
Speaker 4: of bleach bad, blonde built butch bodies. Who actually is
Speaker 4: aligning with Democrats right now? Is the government shut down looms.
Speaker 4: Marjorie Taylor Green has said that she is interested in
Speaker 4: preserving healthcare. Contrary to the fact that eighty two times
Speaker 4: plus the Republicans try to obliterate Obamacare, she wants to
Speaker 4: preserve a little part of it because she wants to
Speaker 4: censure that premiums don't continue to rise. So there's a
Speaker 4: government shut down conversation we're gonna have. But before we
Speaker 4: do that, we bring to.
Speaker 7: It to this question from the audience right on the
Speaker 7: other side of.
Speaker 8: This head.
Speaker 5: Nobody knows.
Speaker 12: Hello, Nati Blam Podcast. My name is Matt Higgins. I
Speaker 12: live in Cincinnati, Ohio. Have work also in Columbus, Ohio.
Speaker 12: So I'm back and forth quite a bit. From my perspective,
Speaker 12: I find it really difficult to reckon with the fact
Speaker 12: that the political right has deformed our political process to
Speaker 12: the point that it's unrecognizable to what it used to be.
Speaker 12: And I'm frustrated with the political left for spending so
Speaker 12: much time just simply refuting the lies that are coming
Speaker 12: from the right and the racism and hate that comes
Speaker 12: from the right. I understand that it's important to do so,
Speaker 12: but I would like to see the left spend more
Speaker 12: time communicating their plan for the future.
Speaker 9: What are we going to do?
Speaker 5: You know?
Speaker 12: And accurately, I feel like it's fair to say that,
Speaker 12: you know, there's not a lot of progress to be
Speaker 12: made in the midterms outside of slowing down the agenda
Speaker 12: of the right. But if you rock with us to
Speaker 12: the next presidential election and we have majorities in both houses.
Speaker 12: You know, this is what we're going to provide for you,
Speaker 12: and I feel like that's a much more consistent and
Speaker 12: useful way to communicate with the American people. What do
Speaker 12: you think, Matt?
Speaker 7: Thank you so much for that question. Andrew.
Speaker 4: I want to come to you because you know, one
Speaker 4: thing that we keep seeing everywhere, no matter where we go,
Speaker 4: even if it's people responding to the podcast, people are
Speaker 4: constantly talking about how they really want you to run again.
Speaker 4: I know you're like, and I'm living a whole life
Speaker 4: since then, But coming to you because I think one
Speaker 4: of the most important pieces of the campaign you ran
Speaker 4: for governor was laying out of vision and I don't
Speaker 4: understand why this is so hard for the Democratic Party
Speaker 4: to do in a time where things are being taken
Speaker 4: off the table left and right, people are suffering. It's
Speaker 4: such a I don't want to say easy, but it's
Speaker 4: such low hanging fruit.
Speaker 2: It was feeling that way, Angela like is low hanging
Speaker 2: free to turn the page. But I don't know a
Speaker 2: better way to sort of sort of demonstrate this. But
Speaker 2: if a building on our street is burning down, but
Speaker 2: we have plans for redevelopment, a couple of blocks over,
Speaker 2: and I spent my time talking to you about the
Speaker 2: redevelopment that we have a couple of blocks over. But
Speaker 2: the local media, the radio, my neighbors still see smoke blooms,
Speaker 2: and I'm wondering what is going to be done about
Speaker 2: this fire that is right now raging. They are not
Speaker 2: going to have an appetite to hear anything I have
Speaker 2: to say about this new redevelopment taking place a couple
Speaker 2: of blocks over. I say that to say, absolutely, the
Speaker 2: Democrats need an agenda. Absolutely, they need a reason to
Speaker 2: give voters to go out and vote for them. But
Speaker 2: they also have to be present in the fight that
Speaker 2: we're in. And I know it's a frustrating thing, but
Speaker 2: there's no we can allow them on our university campuses
Speaker 2: and not have a check to that. There's no way
Speaker 2: we can allow them to bear barricade down buildings like
Speaker 2: we're in the middle of a bea route fighting a war,
Speaker 2: but yet they're doing it on American cities and not
Speaker 2: have a response to that. We can't let Trump continue
Speaker 2: to run roughshot over the Constitution and not have a
Speaker 2: response and an answer to that. So this is a
Speaker 2: difficult one. Because it's equivalent to building the boat and
Speaker 2: rowing it at the same time there but both have
Speaker 2: to be done. My fear, honestly is is that we
Speaker 2: don't have thinkers on our side that are right now
Speaker 2: planning for what that vision roll out. Next step is
Speaker 2: we're right now cinched and the war that's happening right now,
Speaker 2: and the strategy for overcoming for what comes after, I
Speaker 2: don't think has been had answer. It's one of the
Speaker 2: reasons why I wanted to know during CBC to members
Speaker 2: of Congress, who has the plan for accountability once this
Speaker 2: next administration is out? How do you get to be
Speaker 2: lawless for four years and nobody has thought about what
Speaker 2: the consequence of that is going to be? Right, because
Speaker 2: I can tell you right now Democrats are going to
Speaker 2: say we need to turn the page. The American people
Speaker 2: are exhausted by what we've just been through and need
Speaker 2: to move on, and we won't have accountability for what
Speaker 2: happened this time, and the failure to do that is
Speaker 2: an invitation for the next time.
Speaker 4: Absolutely, Bakari, I heard you say, I'm gonna come to
Speaker 4: you as the other elected on the set so Bacari,
Speaker 4: So Bacari on this.
Speaker 7: This same question.
Speaker 4: I think that you all are the resident Democrats in
Speaker 4: the building, and I and also run for office in
Speaker 4: one what do where do you think the agenda come from?
Speaker 7: Do you think that the agenda needs to come from
Speaker 7: the people?
Speaker 5: And that's why, yeah, no, I'll be relatively succinct, because
Speaker 5: there is somebody who I admired in the way that
Speaker 5: he grew the party and kind of took the party
Speaker 5: at that time out of the doldrums. And you know,
Speaker 5: for better or worse, we always look back at administrations
Speaker 5: with hindsight. But Bill Clinton always told me whenever I
Speaker 5: would speak to him, he said, ideas when elections idea
Speaker 5: And we've gotten away from that. And I was speaking
Speaker 5: at an event this past weekend at the York County
Speaker 5: Democratic Party, and I told the candidates and everybody there, please,
Speaker 5: for God's sake, stop talking about Republicans, like just stop
Speaker 5: and start laying out a vision for the future. What
Speaker 5: you did on your campaign? How are you going to
Speaker 5: make people's lives better or different? And I think that
Speaker 5: we have kind of gotten away from that. A lot
Speaker 5: of the ideas and plans of that, to Andrew's point,
Speaker 5: of the Republican Party are thirty forty years alec type
Speaker 5: of initiatives that you know, think tank and they get
Speaker 5: to a point. I mean, Roe v. Wade didn't get
Speaker 5: overturned overnight. I mean, you know, the most consequential things
Speaker 5: we've ever had happened, well since I've been alive, was,
Speaker 5: you know, replacing Thurgood Marshall with Clarence Thomas. It was
Speaker 5: this battle that not many people know that was fought
Speaker 5: when SAMUELA went. The Conservatives got so mad George Bush
Speaker 5: about to appoint Harriet Myers that they made him a
Speaker 5: point Samuel Alito, whose mission in life was to overturn
Speaker 5: Roe v. Wade. And then the fact that none of
Speaker 5: y'all gave us about the Supreme Court and thought Hillary
Speaker 5: Clinton was like pissing and windmills in twenty sixteen when
Speaker 5: she was trying to tell you that, you know, the
Speaker 5: three most consequential Supreme Court seats will have or be
Speaker 5: up now. And so you know, I think that we
Speaker 5: have to learn from that history and have some vision
Speaker 5: going forward. But ideas when elections, and we right now
Speaker 5: are not a party of big bold ideas.
Speaker 2: We're not a party of big bold leadership.
Speaker 5: Before we ever get to that in DC.
Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately our eyes are trained, yeah, on Washington, because
Speaker 2: that's where all of the habit seems to be emanating
Speaker 2: out of, that's showing up on our streets wherever we
Speaker 2: live in America. I think it's very hard to trust
Speaker 2: a party with ideas or that they'll even pursue those
Speaker 2: ideas at the moment where I need you to show up,
Speaker 2: where I need you to have a fight, we're quite frankly,
Speaker 2: you're giving grace on whether you can get.
Speaker 5: A bill passed. Also have to do a better job
Speaker 5: of like like I love Jasmine, and I love the
Speaker 5: fact that Jasmine plays her role. Like Jasmine has a role,
Speaker 5: and I think we're all like, I.
Speaker 2: Don't think she even begged for it. I think that
Speaker 2: she's had to fig.
Speaker 5: People forget how brilliant Jasmine Crockett truly is. Like if
Speaker 5: you were to look at like her resume on paper,
Speaker 5: it like literally blows people's minds. But we also don't
Speaker 5: talk about Laura Underwood enough, right, or Laura excuse me
Speaker 5: Underwood or Joe.
Speaker 6: No goose right, Well he voted for the no, he
Speaker 6: he was not eating voted not vote.
Speaker 5: But I'm just talking about people who are doing some
Speaker 5: of the things that you're talking about. Now, Look, I'm
Speaker 5: not a purity guy, and I think the prism of
Speaker 5: the party has kind of shifted a little bit too
Speaker 5: far left. That's my Southern Democratic leaning is coming out.
Speaker 5: But but I'm not about all about purity. But I
Speaker 5: do believe that we should uplift the those individuals who
Speaker 5: have ideas.
Speaker 2: I think unfortunately we're not in a play space and
Speaker 2: age that is making a lot of room for all
Speaker 2: of the What are all the new voices. Where the
Speaker 2: center of gravity is going is who is in this
Speaker 2: fight right now? Who's present? Who is showing up? And
Speaker 2: I don't think we.
Speaker 5: Should stream.
Speaker 2: This is real deeper feel very I feel strongly when
Speaker 2: we penalize the ones who are showing up, and that's
Speaker 2: not what you're doing. But I think grit large what's
Speaker 2: happening with Jasmine is there's jealousy, there's being taken off.
Speaker 2: There are people who don't have the who are not
Speaker 2: being able to show up the way that she is,
Speaker 2: and they resent that they can.
Speaker 5: And she's also speaking to people that we have just
Speaker 5: plainly forgotten.
Speaker 2: I think I think she's speaking beyond them because I
Speaker 2: like to think of myself as a person who can
Speaker 2: think deeply, and a lot of what she says is
Speaker 2: completely one thousand percent resonant. I like the fact that
Speaker 2: she's willing to I have to imagine that even there
Speaker 2: are parts of her that fee a little compromise. That
Speaker 2: she's only associated by certain people on social media with
Speaker 2: being able to do a clapback. Right it's beneath her station.
Speaker 2: She's doing the clapback because sometimes the moment requires kick.
Speaker 4: It's for safety, and I think to that end, our
Speaker 4: safety is being violated, like over and over again.
Speaker 7: The latest violation is, of course, this government shut down.
Speaker 4: So I'm gonna yield to you, ma'am, but I think
Speaker 4: that it's important for us to talk about where people
Speaker 4: are right directly in harms way, and the only fight
Speaker 4: back is to keep them in harms way. That has
Speaker 4: I think Democrat, the Democratic Party between a rock and
Speaker 4: our place.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would just say there are tangible
Speaker 1: consequences to this government shutdown that people are experiencing. Right away,
Speaker 1: I talked about this people and my immediate family received
Speaker 1: snap benefits. Those benefits will likely decrease. We've already been
Speaker 1: forewarned that that funding will likely run out, and so
Speaker 1: that cast a dark chattel across a lot of things.
Speaker 1: That's going to impact my money. I'm gonna have to
Speaker 1: now subsidize somebody's full, you know, every need they have,
Speaker 1: from deodorant to toothpaste, the tomatoes, the greens, the hot
Speaker 1: food or whatever. And so even though I'm not getting
Speaker 1: those benefits, I will be impacted with our travel, all
Speaker 1: of us will be impacted as we see the airport
Speaker 1: lines getting longer. And I talked about this on the
Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. When we look at in twenty eighteen, what
Speaker 1: happened with air traffic controllers. They began increasingly calling out
Speaker 1: sick because they weren't getting paid. They already started this
Speaker 1: time precisely. That puts our very lives at danger. And
Speaker 1: do you think about the holidays coming up, people planning
Speaker 1: on traveling to see loved ones. That's going to go away.
Speaker 1: The funding for WI women, infinite children. All these people
Speaker 1: who are self described as pro life. I don't call
Speaker 1: them that, I think it's a misnomer, but they describe
Speaker 1: themselves as that they voted for this. They're voting to
Speaker 1: take away resources from families. You referenced Oh no, that
Speaker 1: was Jubakari who referenced somebody's premiums who made, you know,
Speaker 1: eighty five grand a year and his premiums are going
Speaker 1: to shoot up from three thousand to twenty five thousand.
Speaker 1: These are the real life, life consequences that people are facing,
Speaker 1: and it is a frightening time. And I don't think
Speaker 1: people really care about the minutia of politics and what's
Speaker 1: happening in DC right now. I think they want to
Speaker 1: make the connection of how is this impacting me and
Speaker 1: what are people going to do to fix it. So
Speaker 1: when we talk about like communications and you know, like
Speaker 1: how are we messaging this to certain people? Forgive me,
Speaker 1: you made this point already, Andrew. I think on one side,
Speaker 1: it's just always a very simple message, like we've talked
Speaker 1: about before, and yeah, these black and brown people are
Speaker 1: taking from you like that's their only thing. And so
Speaker 1: it's not that they're such brilliant communicators. It is that
Speaker 1: they are all rooted in our destruction, and so I
Speaker 1: don't give them credit. I think on the left side
Speaker 1: there's a bigger tent and we all don't agree. Butkari
Speaker 1: just said, which I'm curious. We'll find out on this
Speaker 1: episode and other episodes, what does going too far.
Speaker 7: Left look like?
Speaker 5: Like? What is the shift it? But I do think
Speaker 5: that one of the more I call it brilliant, brilliant
Speaker 5: rooted in cruel strategies. It reminds me of Lee Atwater,
Speaker 5: who's like a South Carolina phenomenon. But he blossomed into
Speaker 5: it was busting migrants to sanctuary cities, but not sanctuary
Speaker 5: cities in Kansas, right, But he busted them to New York,
Speaker 5: he busted them to Chicago. And what were people competing over?
Speaker 5: Black folk were competing over resources? And we didn't. We
Speaker 5: never filled that void. I mean, everything I go back
Speaker 5: to is like we haven't. We either fill the void
Speaker 5: with a bunch of words or we feel it with nothing,
Speaker 5: and we are not. There's like no ine between there
Speaker 5: right now. And it talks about the inability and I think,
Speaker 5: if I were to surmise leadership in this moment, we
Speaker 5: don't have leadership prepared to meet this moment.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you all this because again to the
Speaker 4: two electeds on the set, of course, but I'm saying
Speaker 4: y'all have y'all have run and won and been sworn in.
Speaker 7: I guess my question is we always say, like, these
Speaker 7: people are not meeting this moment.
Speaker 4: If you were in Washington right now, let's say you're
Speaker 4: in the Senate, you're or one of the two that
Speaker 4: could or two of the two that could get them
Speaker 4: to the sixty bout threshold to reopen the government. But
Speaker 4: you know that once they reopen the government, if this
Speaker 4: healthcare piece is not a part of that compromise, everybody's
Speaker 4: premiums are going up. Nobody's health care is affordable, Obamacare
Speaker 4: is no more. How would y'all meet the moment?
Speaker 5: That's different than what they're doing right I mean, the
Speaker 5: first thing I'd be doing is sitting down with some
Speaker 5: soybean farmers. I have a white country redneck just overall
Speaker 5: soybean farming. We just be sitting down having a cup
Speaker 5: of coffee and drip in five points in Columbia, South Carolina,
Speaker 5: talking about the fact that we he not able to
Speaker 5: sell no soybeans to his largest purchase of soord beans.
Speaker 5: But that's the I'm gonna sit down with him, and
Speaker 5: we're gonna broadcast it, and we're gonna send it all
Speaker 5: out so people can see the dichotomy of an older,
Speaker 5: white rural farmer sitting down with this young black elected official.
Speaker 4: Right, Well, I'm gonna push you back because you just
Speaker 4: said a moment ago that, right, that what we always
Speaker 4: do is either fill it with words, right, we fill
Speaker 4: the void with words, or we don't fill it with anything.
Speaker 7: So aren't you doing more words?
Speaker 2: If you do?
Speaker 5: No, I'm actually you're showing me listening to him about
Speaker 5: the past. It's a video. I mean, you're we're gonna
Speaker 5: clip it up. We're gonna build the content out. We're
Speaker 5: gonna go out there and he's gonna be able to
Speaker 5: so people are able to see it and be like, man.
Speaker 7: But what does that do for the furlough worker? What
Speaker 7: does that do for this?
Speaker 6: So that's not the only thing, and it's not just
Speaker 6: white farmers by the way, Well I.
Speaker 5: Get all of that, but I'm just saying you're I'm
Speaker 5: very intentional about the content that we're creating.
Speaker 2: By the way, that that intention is also the one
Speaker 2: that's been replicated in the Democratic Party in every.
Speaker 6: Election appealing the last since.
Speaker 2: The DLC is what he started. It were ideas, but
Speaker 2: there were ideas that buy and large, sidestepped and malign
Speaker 2: black folks because we're still dealing with the consequence.
Speaker 5: We still are dealing with the consequences, no doubt, but
Speaker 5: that we also have that benefit of hindsight as well,
Speaker 5: because during that time period, we forget that the Congressional
Speaker 5: Black Caucus, many of our leaders, right, we're rallying around
Speaker 5: many of those same ideas which in the light don't
Speaker 5: shine as brightly as people sold it to us to be.
Speaker 2: And there were there were also people, however, the time,
Speaker 2: who understood that by making Maimie the the image of
Speaker 2: what welfare in this country look like shasting effectly.
Speaker 4: So Andrew Bakari sitting down with a soy bean farmer
Speaker 4: who is white and in rural South.
Speaker 2: Carolina, I mean, I'm organizing the ship out of every
Speaker 2: person of color that we can come in the contact
Speaker 2: with the way the way organizers do it. You go
Speaker 2: to where people are, that's what the pain is being felt.
Speaker 2: They have an agitation there.
Speaker 4: In fact, it was like when you go out to
Speaker 4: organize it just just talk to us like we're slow.
Speaker 4: You're going out to organize and your call to action
Speaker 4: is what how are you bringing them doors?
Speaker 6: What are you saying?
Speaker 2: I mean, we are readying ourselves for the moment at
Speaker 2: which we get to kick them out. We're reading ourselves
Speaker 2: for the moment he sends the National Guard into this city.
Speaker 2: We're ready readying ourselves to be first responders to our
Speaker 2: neighbors through the blood banks, the food banks, the whatever
Speaker 2: we're gonna need in order to meet the basic needs
Speaker 2: of people, because that's where rubberies meeting the road. This
Speaker 2: is where people are complaining. This is where folks are
Speaker 2: gonna need triage when they can't get into the doctor
Speaker 2: or to have that imperative surgery or whatever done.
Speaker 4: So you're organizing around Maslow's hierarchy needs. It's the bottom
Speaker 4: level food water shelter.
Speaker 2: Because if we don't meet him there, who the hell?
Speaker 5: But I think I think that we I mean, I
Speaker 5: think he's right. But I'm talking about also, like when
Speaker 5: you talk about meeting those people, I'm talking about calling
Speaker 5: because I'm an elected official, is said. I'm talking about
Speaker 5: calling my local veterans hospital, getting their auditorially agree, having
Speaker 5: those federal workers who are there or whatever come in there,
Speaker 5: and we're gonna we're gonna lay out the benefits that
Speaker 5: are available, talk about those issues, and we're gonna listen
Speaker 5: to what they say and We're gonna do that at
Speaker 5: every veterans hospital so we can kill a couple birds
Speaker 5: with one stone. We're gonna stream it on YouTube and
Speaker 5: Facebook so people have the ability.
Speaker 2: To ability to it.
Speaker 5: We're gonna make sure. We're going to make sure that
Speaker 5: each event that I have, even if it's that soybean
Speaker 5: farmer or I'm in the veterans hospital meeting with federal workers,
Speaker 5: I'm going to make sure that there's one or two
Speaker 5: people my staff touches and they're going to be writing
Speaker 5: op eds in local newspapers because there's total people.
Speaker 4: So are y'all when you guys, because y'all are both
Speaker 4: still talking kind of if when you go back to
Speaker 4: Washington to do your other part of your duty, are
Speaker 4: you voting yes to keep the government open?
Speaker 7: Are you still voting no?
Speaker 2: No, no, And it's not I'm voting yes to make
Speaker 2: sure people have health insurance.
Speaker 7: I mean you're voting no to make sure.
Speaker 2: I'm voting yes to I'm voting yet we never fras
Speaker 2: my objection, my objection, I'm yes, you.
Speaker 6: Are, you're voting no, changing the framing no health care,
Speaker 6: no vote.
Speaker 2: And I don't buy with it.
Speaker 5: For example, this week when Charlemagne asked us the question
Speaker 5: of who's is it? Republican or Democrat? You don't have
Speaker 5: to answer the question.
Speaker 2: Unless you're writing the answer.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can reject the framing of the question because
Speaker 5: my my objection is a yes for you to have
Speaker 5: access to that.
Speaker 2: I understood yours, and my answering yes, that it is
Speaker 2: the Republican's fault is because we have given ground that
Speaker 2: somehow there is some equality of responsibility at what's happening.
Speaker 2: There is no equality.
Speaker 5: We don't have.
Speaker 2: We don't have shared anything. There's no shared power structure
Speaker 2: in Washington. There is single party rule in Washington right now.
Speaker 2: The President, the US Senate, the US House, and by
Speaker 2: the way, the US Supreme Court all run by the right.
Speaker 2: And so you want me to now take some portion
Speaker 2: of the blame for while we're here.
Speaker 5: That and also a little unelected bureaucrats, which I think
Speaker 5: is a separate portion of government that we haven't addressed
Speaker 5: because Donald Trump has empowered more unelected bureaucrats that fall
Speaker 5: outside I think he's remade.
Speaker 2: He's remade.
Speaker 5: He has remade, remade it and empowered it. Because Elon
Speaker 5: Musk reported to no one, Yeah, I mean it's he
Speaker 5: didn't fall in any other I mean, it's the way
Speaker 5: that we're the way that we're analyzing this is like
Speaker 5: evolving under our eyes because the traditional three branches of government.
Speaker 5: You can't really tell me where Elon Musk falls in this.
Speaker 2: But the problem is that it didn't have to be
Speaker 2: that way. It didn't have to be that way because
Speaker 2: the system is set up for there to be checks
Speaker 2: on it. But when you're willing to give all of
Speaker 2: it away.
Speaker 4: Republicans board did that when they gave him criminal immunity.
Speaker 6: But this is something you want to talk about.
Speaker 2: No.
Speaker 5: I just think that there used to be a time
Speaker 5: back when you were running for office, back when I
Speaker 5: was running for office in twenty fourteen, where every single
Speaker 5: every single interview mattered like people were. They may not
Speaker 5: have been hanging on your words for phrases or ideas,
Speaker 5: but they were looking at your demeanor, at your context.
Speaker 5: You know, people will pull you aside, said man. I
Speaker 5: saw the interview on nightly news last night, but look,
Speaker 5: you look tired. You can't get tired on the job
Speaker 5: and it would kill your campaign or lifted up and today,
Speaker 5: well this week I'm still learning how to podcast this
Speaker 5: week there were there was a video by Katie Porter
Speaker 5: of an and I don't even know the journalist that
Speaker 5: well or at all, but she did. She did her journalism.
Speaker 2: Being a current member of the United States Congress was
Speaker 2: a Canadate for governor of the state. I think's I
Speaker 2: think she's a former member of Congress. I'm saying this
Speaker 2: because she should know better.
Speaker 13: What do you say to the forty percent of California
Speaker 13: voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
Speaker 13: for Trump?
Speaker 9: How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 14: Man?
Speaker 13: Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
Speaker 13: of the vote, you think you'll get sixty percent? All
Speaker 13: everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
Speaker 9: That's what you're in a general election. Yes, if it
Speaker 9: is me versus a Republican, I think that I will
Speaker 9: win the people who did.
Speaker 2: Not vote for What if it's you versus another Democrat?
Speaker 9: I don't intend that to be the case.
Speaker 13: So how do you not intend that to be the case?
Speaker 2: You do?
Speaker 13: You are you going to ask them not to?
Speaker 9: You know, I'm saying I'm going to build the support.
Speaker 9: I have the support already in terms of name recognition
Speaker 9: and so I'm going to do the very best I
Speaker 9: can to make sure that we get through this primary
Speaker 9: in a really strong position. But let me be clear
Speaker 9: with you. I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area.
Speaker 9: I have stood on my own two feet and one
Speaker 9: Republican votes before. That's not something every candidate in this
Speaker 9: race can say. If you're from a deep blue area,
Speaker 9: if you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't
Speaker 9: have an experience.
Speaker 13: Is that you don't need those Trump voters?
Speaker 9: So you asked me if I needed them to win?
Speaker 2: So you don't.
Speaker 9: I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.
Speaker 7: What is your question?
Speaker 13: The question is the same thing I asked everybody that
Speaker 13: this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
Speaker 13: power grab. Every other candidate has answered this question.
Speaker 9: This is not and I said I support it.
Speaker 13: So and the question is what do you say to
Speaker 13: the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump.
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
Speaker 9: need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
Speaker 9: happy to answer the ques answer the question is you
Speaker 9: haven't written and all answer.
Speaker 13: And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think
Speaker 13: you need any of those forty percent of California voters
Speaker 13: to win, and you're saying, no, you don't know.
Speaker 9: I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote
Speaker 9: I can. And what I'm saying to.
Speaker 13: You is that well to those voters.
Speaker 7: Okay, So so you I don't want.
Speaker 9: To keep doing this, I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 2: Thank you.
Speaker 13: You're not gonna do the interview with them?
Speaker 4: No, not like this.
Speaker 9: I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single.
Speaker 2: Question you ask.
Speaker 13: Every other candidate has I don't care.
Speaker 9: I don't care.
Speaker 7: You don't care.
Speaker 9: I mean.
Speaker 5: Ye who have made it this far in the hour
Speaker 5: watching us, Let me advise you don't never do it.
Speaker 5: Don't you know how you know? People come to you
Speaker 5: all the time. I want to be an elected official.
Speaker 5: Let me just I don't know how to get.
Speaker 2: You to let me tell you a race, mostly because
Speaker 2: are humility. Yes, there's no if so if we're talking
Speaker 2: about voters reading you, because that's really what they're doing.
Speaker 2: They really don't know if you're answer is the right
Speaker 2: answer or the wrong answer. But there are people are
Speaker 2: looking for the texture of who this person is. If
Speaker 2: you're going to leave me what am I getting, and
Speaker 2: the kind of arrogance that is displayed by this former
Speaker 2: member or current I'm not sure a former member of
Speaker 2: Congress when her simple answer should have been, what are
Speaker 2: you going to say to those forty that forty who
Speaker 2: voted for Trump? I'm going to do everything that I
Speaker 2: can to compete for their vote based off of the
Speaker 2: vision that I'm forwarding. I hope that that forty percent
Speaker 2: learned what a fraud, liar and a cheap Donald Trump
Speaker 2: was to them. But I don't blame them for that.
Speaker 2: I blame him, the liar that I mean. It's there's
Speaker 2: so much. I mean, you don't have to say I'm
Speaker 2: gonna capitulate and say that I'm going to do what
Speaker 2: Trump did, and you don't do any of that. Her
Speaker 2: arrogance is what stuck out the most of me her responses.
Speaker 2: There are a million ways to have dealt with that.
Speaker 2: But I've seen this in other democratic politics we probably
Speaker 2: all have all over the country, where there's this sense
Speaker 2: of entitlement that creeps in, that tells you out loud
Speaker 2: somehow that there's certain things that are beneath your station
Speaker 2: that you are beyond reproach on your votes. We saw
Speaker 2: we played a couple of weeks back, those members of Congress,
Speaker 2: Asian members, Asian Pacific Island members who were asked by
Speaker 2: their voters, how can I trust you? You voted for
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, And they turned around with such fury attitude,
Speaker 2: more hate for the person who was on their side
Speaker 2: asking them and hold them accountable than they were for
Speaker 2: the Republican members who put them in position to have
Speaker 2: to make a vote one way or another. I sell
Speaker 2: that to say, this is case in point our leadership
Speaker 2: right now in the Democratic Party, that we have folks
Speaker 2: who are disconnected, who are out of touch, who have
Speaker 2: forgotten why they're in this thing.
Speaker 7: And the other thing is you don't really I don't.
Speaker 4: I would advise, as someone who you know, traffics in
Speaker 4: communication strategy a little bit.
Speaker 7: I would not advise a reporter that you can have
Speaker 7: follow up questions that.
Speaker 5: Interview of it. That's the language was what threw me off.
Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, the lack of humility for
Speaker 5: me comes off in language I'm the front runner. It's
Speaker 5: not something you should ever say, right if somebody asks
Speaker 5: you about if somebody ask you about the electorate, like
Speaker 5: you said, you're going to compete because I'm not going to.
Speaker 5: I'm not going to. I'm not governor of sixty percent, right,
Speaker 5: I'm going to compete for every vote. Now, this is now.
Speaker 5: This is also how you get beat by Republican. If
Speaker 5: there was any Republican worth a skill in California. They
Speaker 5: take that forty percent, They throw some wedges out there
Speaker 5: amongst Hispanic and black voters. They start talking with people
Speaker 5: because right now, I don't know if she's gonna say that.
Speaker 2: They would make it real simple, they say, you know what,
Speaker 2: Katie doesn't care about that forty but I care about
Speaker 2: all one hundred. I'm a governor for every single one
Speaker 2: of you.
Speaker 1: I think it's also very Trumpian who attacked the press
Speaker 1: like this is a local reporter interviewing a candidate, doing
Speaker 1: her job, for you to have the arrogance to tell
Speaker 1: her it's your follow up questions.
Speaker 2: I don't like.
Speaker 1: Camera, Yes, I don't have I mean to me, look,
Speaker 1: I think there is a level of white woman entitlement
Speaker 1: to this too, that you feel like you have the
Speaker 1: authority over this interview because maybe ain't nobody ever told
Speaker 1: you you're not in charge and it's not gonna go
Speaker 1: your way today, and you feel like you're entitled to
Speaker 1: these voters, you feel like you're entitled to control this interview,
Speaker 1: and then when you don't get your way, you're gonna
Speaker 1: take your ball and go home. That doesn't appeal to
Speaker 1: me as as a voter as anybody's.
Speaker 5: About ahead.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you know, because we're going to close this out.
Speaker 7: So if you feel I was just.
Speaker 5: Gonna say, like, look, I think respectfully, I think calling
Speaker 5: it a white woman thing, although probably has a great
Speaker 5: deal of truth, is kind of selling it short. Because
Speaker 5: we have a lot of older members, we have a
Speaker 5: lot of black members, We have a lot of people
Speaker 5: who treat their voters and the press with a level
Speaker 5: of disdain that I don't want to discount. I think
Speaker 5: that against it's a cancer. I think it's more than
Speaker 5: that narrow. I mean, that's just what I see, but
Speaker 5: I agree with that.
Speaker 7: I definitely have seen it.
Speaker 4: I think it's rare, Like I know a lot more
Speaker 4: members who are humble and treat everybody so kindly that
Speaker 4: it'll delay us getting.
Speaker 7: Somewhere, if you know what I mean.
Speaker 4: So I don't see that like rit large, but I've
Speaker 4: definitely seen it. I think the thing that is most troubling.
Speaker 4: I would normally y'all know, especially for anybody in Congress.
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to find well, maybe she was having
Speaker 4: a bad day, Maybe she was triggered by the question.
Speaker 4: I feel like the reporter at the beginning. We had
Speaker 4: some little asshole moves about her too. But the issue
Speaker 4: I have is, this is what Katie said she did
Speaker 4: every day and office.
Speaker 6: So I ain't got that Katie. I don't think she
Speaker 6: was announcehole. I thought she was doing her job.
Speaker 7: I could see.
Speaker 6: She's there to pressure for answer, making a pressure.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna pressure all to get calls.
Speaker 6: To because I do want to talk about this football
Speaker 6: player the car.
Speaker 5: You will learn that call action.
Speaker 6: Actually, okay, okay, well, I just want to thank you.
Speaker 6: Normally sports is my thing, and.
Speaker 5: Right after this break, we're going to get into our
Speaker 5: calls to action, So please stay tuned. I think mine's
Speaker 5: gonna be the best.
Speaker 13: But you know.
Speaker 2: Who cares about truth in the last.
Speaker 14: Morning, It.
Speaker 5: Kiren Lacy. God rest his soul is someone who took
Speaker 5: his life at a really, really young age. And asking
Speaker 5: me that's a difficult question.
Speaker 6: I really wanted to know.
Speaker 5: I was a former former college football player at Louisiana
Speaker 5: State University, an amazing and amazing wide receiver. He was
Speaker 5: really good friends with Malik Neighbors, who plays not far
Speaker 5: from where we're broadcasting here with the New York Giants.
Speaker 5: And you went through this process whereby there was an
Speaker 5: accident that occurred, and he's twenty five, and when the
Speaker 5: accident occurred, of course he went through this a criminal process.
Speaker 5: We're still adjudicating the fairness of that criminal process. I
Speaker 5: have a problem with the DA silence because a young
Speaker 5: man is dead, and so there is no privy to
Speaker 5: a close investigative file. Because the person is dead that
Speaker 5: you're charging, that is now open public record. We can
Speaker 5: have a full dialogue about what you saw while you
Speaker 5: charge the way you did, and a certain level of transparency,
Speaker 5: But I don't want to go into the facts too
Speaker 5: much of this case. I prefer to talk about the
Speaker 5: fact that we persecute and prosecute people on social media
Speaker 5: in our daily conversations without knowing the full state of
Speaker 5: the facts, without knowing the well being of the individual
Speaker 5: we're talking about, without knowing the reasoning or the full context,
Speaker 5: and we have been conditioned in this age this kind
Speaker 5: of magdonalized world where everything has to be fast, everything
Speaker 5: has to be quick, and we do it without any
Speaker 5: level of grace. And so my call to action, first
Speaker 5: call to action, is to make sure that as we
Speaker 5: go forward, even if you don't know Karen Lacey or
Speaker 5: he's his mother, no longer has a son, right, I
Speaker 5: want us to proceed with a certain level of grace
Speaker 5: throughout this political process. And I know that they're people
Speaker 5: who say there's certain people who don't deserve grace. Let
Speaker 5: me just tell you this, it's a lot easier to
Speaker 5: give yourself grace if you practice giving others grace.
Speaker 8: That's so true.
Speaker 2: Opposite, I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it is really hard to give yourself grace.
Speaker 5: I mean, grace is such a fascinating word because it's
Speaker 5: what I deduce, and I'm playing with the word a
Speaker 5: lot spiritually and otherwise, that it's something that we literally
Speaker 5: don't give another others enough of, or ourselfs. We're so
Speaker 5: hard on ourselves, and the reason is is because it's
Speaker 5: reflected in the way that we treat others. I mean,
Speaker 5: you can't just you can't turn it off and on.
Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm guilty of that too. Of not giving people
Speaker 1: grace or weighing in on the conversation that perhaps I
Speaker 1: don't have a place. One of our friends is on
Speaker 1: a podcast and he had an ugly exchange with this
Speaker 1: woman and I wasn't as familiar with the woman, and
Speaker 1: I just thought, I don't like how she dismissed his point.
Speaker 6: I didn't like it. And then later it came out
Speaker 6: of the two used to date and I'm like, see.
Speaker 1: That's why you need to mind your business because I
Speaker 1: didn't even know all that, you know, because she.
Speaker 6: Was I mean, do you have an issue with me?
Speaker 6: They were going back and forth. I was like, this
Speaker 6: is why I should just keep you. I don't need
Speaker 6: to weigh in with an opinion on everything.
Speaker 7: Is it my turn to go? I guess so okay,
Speaker 7: keep going.
Speaker 1: Okay, So my call to action. I'm going to actually
Speaker 1: tell you about my weekend plans because it's part of
Speaker 1: my call to action. So you guys know that I
Speaker 1: am roommates with Michael Harriet and his lovely wife Karen. Yes,
Speaker 1: they don't know that I'm officially a roommate. I've been
Speaker 1: there many times. They've never me I'm a squatter, thank you.
Speaker 1: I am a squatter. I want to say happy birthday
Speaker 1: to Michael Harriet, the amazing author of black a f
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Speaker 1: are flying in from LA from New York, from all over,
Speaker 1: from Georgia, from Mississippi, Alabama, from Tallahassee, everywhere. And so
Speaker 1: my call to action is in these times, we are
Speaker 1: giving ourselves permission this weekend to have black joy, to
Speaker 1: celebrate not only our history and that time period, the
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Speaker 1: We are coming together to dance, to laugh, Mike Is
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Speaker 4: But it's called Billy Jean Body. Yes, all of all
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Speaker 7: I am my.
Speaker 4: My call to action is again you all, this is
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Speaker 5: Shows how much they listen to your input.
Speaker 2: Would have done it, I remember, I said, and you
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Speaker 7: Did you remind me?
Speaker 5: We're like, do it? Just do it? Yeah, back to that.
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Speaker 7: We'll eat right now.
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