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Speaker 1: Native Lampard is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership with

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Speaker 2: Native Lamp pid one hundred episodes.

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Speaker 3: Let's get it, get it, get it, get.

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Speaker 2: It, because there's so much about this moment that it's trying.

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Speaker 4: To make people feel like they've lost their mind, when

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Speaker 4: in fact.

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Speaker 5: The welcome home, y'all, welcome to another episode of the

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Speaker 5: Native lamp podcast. This week is our hundredth episode, and

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Speaker 5: we're so proud to be here and joining you guys

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Speaker 5: as we always do, to talk about everything that's going

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Speaker 5: on in the culture around us, politically, sports, entertainment, all

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Speaker 5: those good things.

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Speaker 6: Andrew, you look so different.

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Speaker 5: Andrew ain't never looked as good.

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Speaker 2: Can you remember how I used to tell you that

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Speaker 2: he used to think we were the same person and

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Speaker 2: not physically in the same space. Brother, Good to.

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Speaker 5: See, it's good to see. I'm glad that you're one

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Speaker 5: of the number. As they say where we're from.

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Speaker 2: That's right now. The difference of course between party and

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Speaker 2: I car gets him self compliments. I tend to wait

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Speaker 2: for them to be merited.

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Speaker 6: Welcome home, Welcome home.

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Speaker 1: Yes, it is official.

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Speaker 6: I love it.

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Speaker 7: How that was amazing, very chill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's fine.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, it's fine.

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Speaker 7: I give you a me for not Beyonce.

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Speaker 6: How did you open up? Do you hear somebody say

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Speaker 6: these mothers were crazy? I think that was the best

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Speaker 6: exactly because they really are great. They really are.

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Speaker 1: So I know I want to get into Bakari, but

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Speaker 1: first we got to let our viewers know. On this

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Speaker 1: hundred episode, when we talk about today.

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Speaker 4: Beyond Beyonce, beyond Beyonce, we are also going to talk

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Speaker 4: about speaking of these mfs are crazy, this government shutdown

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Speaker 4: that is still going. Yeah, I want to get into

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Speaker 4: MAGA invading black spaces, not just taking over our cities,

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Speaker 4: but also this turning point idea of coming to college campuses.

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Speaker 1: I'm not feeling it. I don't know if the young

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Speaker 1: people are going to show up or not. I don't

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Speaker 1: think they should, but I want to hear what you

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Speaker 1: all have to say.

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Speaker 2: Well, I'm interested, and let the audience get to know

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Speaker 2: Bikari a little bit better. We all know, of course,

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Speaker 2: why this man is on the platform, has graciously agreed

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Speaker 2: to join us graciously, but I know that the listeners

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Speaker 2: and the viewers, our family out there, want to know

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Speaker 2: what they can expect, and you'll get a good flavor

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Speaker 2: of it. Today you've already gotten I don't know, confidence

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Speaker 2: on steroids. But the rest of it is to come.

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Speaker 1: What do you want to talk about on your first.

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Speaker 5: I'm just happy to be here. This is family. This

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Speaker 5: is not an adjustment. There will be no adjustment period,

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Speaker 5: you know, because we all we all talk and every

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Speaker 5: every day you guys are texting me for advice.

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Speaker 2: On how to be better, how to be better?

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Speaker 5: That is actually the misinformation I want to talk about,

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Speaker 5: Kyrien Lacy young Man at Louisiana State University. There's a

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Speaker 5: lot of conflicting if mation and reports, but you know,

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Speaker 5: the way that we treat each other on social media

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Speaker 5: something the cesspool that has become Twitter and Instagram. And

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Speaker 5: we're raising kids in this environment too, So how do

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Speaker 5: we do that? What do we do? And I look

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Speaker 5: forward to spend in the next few minutes with your Yeah,

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Speaker 5: oh if.

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Speaker 6: We have time, you won't.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe we can talk about on minipop. But you

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Speaker 1: showed us a video clip of Congressman Katie Port.

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Speaker 5: Oh, yeah, we need to talk about it was running for.

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Speaker 6: Governor in Florida, who had this really California?

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Speaker 7: Yeah what you said?

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Speaker 6: Sorry?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's that you know, when you're running

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Speaker 5: for office, there are moments in time. It's like playing sports.

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Speaker 5: There are moments in which who you are kind of.

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Speaker 1: It was an ugly interview. We'll show you guys the

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Speaker 1: clip later, but let's get into the show.

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Speaker 6: All right, Welcome home, all right, Vacari.

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Speaker 1: Angela, you were saying that you wanted to do a

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Speaker 1: rapid round with Bakari, But I just want to say,

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Speaker 1: I'm actually thrilled that you're joining the show. I find

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Speaker 1: it hilarious that you fancy yourself the Beyonce of our cent.

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Speaker 6: But I have known you. We've all known you.

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Speaker 1: Our friendship stretches decades, and I think the thing I'm

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Speaker 1: most excited about is all of us, our friends, and

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Speaker 1: the conversations we have here. We have them the same. Angela,

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Speaker 1: and Andrew and I went to dinner this week and

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Speaker 1: no Bakari was flying in.

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Speaker 5: I was busy.

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Speaker 6: He looked and busy as always.

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Speaker 1: But we were at the table laughing so hard, and

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Speaker 1: people had recognized us and they were coming up saying,

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Speaker 1: we love Native Lampard. What's happening? We heard y'all were canceled.

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Speaker 1: I just want to say I'm throwing angela other to bus.

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Speaker 6: It was this one. She made us do it. She

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Speaker 4: I just want to say for the record that it

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Speaker 4: wasn't five seconds that went by before these two were

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Speaker 4: absolutely on board with it, because it was not a

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Speaker 4: wide shot. When I said these two, I will say,

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Speaker 4: it's Andrew to my left and Tip to my right.

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Speaker 4: And the idea really was it's hard to break through,

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Speaker 4: which is something we talk about on this show all

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Speaker 4: the time.

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Speaker 7: It's hard to break.

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Speaker 4: Through in this news environment, and so you have to

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Speaker 4: get creative. Perhaps it was a little too cunning, I

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Speaker 4: don't know, but we just wanted people to realize that, yes,

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Speaker 4: Culture Con was our last show together as a trio,

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Speaker 4: so their tripod became.

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Speaker 2: A quad pip.

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Speaker 4: And on that note, I just I want to say, Nakari,

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Speaker 4: we all had the opportunity when we started the show

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Speaker 4: to tell people stuff about ourselves that they may not know,

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Speaker 4: and so we wanted to ensure that you had a

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Speaker 4: proper introduction to Native Lampa's audience. We're sure some of

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Speaker 4: the Bacari Sellers podcast audience will also come over, but

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Speaker 4: just want to give you an opportunity to have the

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Speaker 2: Yes, but it's important before you start that it must

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Speaker 2: be vulnerable. Generally some people don't know. Oh and if

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Speaker 2: it could bring you to tears, that'd be a real plus.

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Speaker 5: What would I do without you? Before I get started

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Speaker 5: telling you who I am, I've known Andrew since my

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Speaker 5: time at Morehouse College. And Andrew was a phenomenal, phenomenal

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Speaker 5: kind of figuring his way out in city politics. Of course, Angela,

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Speaker 5: the first time we met, you were executive director of

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Speaker 5: the CBC at the time, grinding away hurting cats. That

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Speaker 5: Cleeford from not mistaken only one great, great and awesome

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Speaker 5: human being, great and awesome leader. And that's when you

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Speaker 5: know the Caucus has had is ups and downs in

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Speaker 7: But I'm sorry, do you but you got me CBC.

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Speaker 4: I just want to just send a special prayer to

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Speaker 4: the family of Carolyn Chiefs Killpatrick cast Away as a

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Speaker 4: former CBC care I can't not think about my cbcpans

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Speaker 5: And then yes, that was a yeah segue. I was

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Speaker 5: just going to say the strength that you all displayed

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Speaker 5: know about the CBC. It's a family, and I don't

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Speaker 5: think people really know how close those members are, those

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Speaker 5: meeting Angela. And then Tiffany has been I don't think

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Speaker 5: people really know that Tiffany has been in every level

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Speaker 5: quite often. You know, I tell people in the barbershop,

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Speaker 5: not know who I am, I think that my story

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Speaker 5: starts February eighth of nineteen sixty eight when my father,

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Speaker 5: along with twenty eight others were shot. Three were killed

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Speaker 5: is no seasway Abida Ma sellers abide me means born

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Speaker 5: Lee Jackson, MegaR Emmett, all those things very close with King.

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Speaker 5: King actually performed my dad's first wedding in the basement

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Speaker 5: of I joke with my dad. He didn't find it

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Speaker 5: funny I don't think, but King don't didn't get everything right.

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Speaker 5: and very close with Stokely and Julian and all of

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Speaker 5: those heroes in Heroin. Shout out to Judy Richardson at

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Speaker 5: the Snake Project over there, Marion Barry, Uncle Mary, and

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Speaker 2: The next episode.

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Speaker 5: But but it's also it's also the way that you

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Speaker 5: are able to be a parent. And you know, everybody

441
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Speaker 5: can be a mom, I guess, but being a mother

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Speaker 5: and being a good mother is something that I look

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Speaker 5: at it as a skill and a talent.

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Speaker 1: It is, it is, And you both have TWINSS.

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Speaker 5: We paid for hours, well, I contributed to Yeah, I

446
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Speaker 5: did too. You know how many times I was in

447
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Speaker 5: that dark room.

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Speaker 2: Times room was lit.

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Speaker 5: I was in a room with a VHS just as

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Speaker 5: on a chair, magazine chairs, Yes, I mean this is

451
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Speaker 5: one of them.

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Speaker 2: However, from any other support.

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Speaker 5: This is but women don't know what we go to

454
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Speaker 5: don't want to because you don't want to, but people don't.

455
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Speaker 5: People don't know that you don't. I mean, you start,

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Speaker 5: you know, you know how many people that room is used?

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Speaker 9: Yeah?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think about the hotel.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, well more on that on Native Land after Dark.

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Speaker 1: But honestly, just welcome home. I'm so thrilled to have

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Speaker 1: you part of this show. Honestly for our audience. Angela

462
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Speaker 1: always envisioned this force in here to be part of

463
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Speaker 1: this show. I did read a lot of your the

464
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Speaker 1: Quad pod. Angela dropped one of the comments in our

465
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Speaker 1: group chat because I the plan was. Angela was like

466
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Speaker 1: saying it was our last show as a trio, and people,

467
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Speaker 1: you know, took that the show was over, but we

468
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Speaker 1: were being cheeky and the point was there was going

469
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Speaker 1: to be no more podcasts. That was like our little

470
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Speaker 1: cheeky thing. And so when Andrew responded in the comments

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Speaker 1: as a part of our cheeky game, like Angela, really,

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Speaker 1: why did you do.

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Speaker 7: It this way?

474
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Speaker 1: We were supposed to do it together, and Angela's like

475
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Speaker 1: lead in the comments you could text me. I just

476
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Speaker 1: jumped in because I wanted to be a part of it.

477
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Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, exactly, Andrew, I'm going to

478
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Speaker 1: respond to this on Thursday and said, messing it up.

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Speaker 5: It was.

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Speaker 4: I was like, I said, you tell me when and where, Like, okay,

481
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Speaker 4: you got a podcast.

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Speaker 6: But that comment that you dropped, the one that was like,

483
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Speaker 6: this is has Angela all over it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah, we have.

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Speaker 4: We have some listeners who are so faithful they know

486
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Speaker 4: what part of everybody played. So they were like, this

487
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Speaker 4: has Angela mischief written all over it.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 4: The fact that Tiffany came in, she's too nice, she

490
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Speaker 4: couldn't hold the hold the storyline. And then they were like,

491
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Speaker 4: in the fact that Andrew commented on anything, there's a

492
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Speaker 4: dig giveaway, it's a dig giveaway shadow account, you know, Andrew,

493
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Speaker 4: this might have been her Kevin Durant moment, because now

494
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Speaker 4: that I'm thinking about it, the fact that she even

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Speaker 4: made herself nice in the comment means that might have

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Speaker 4: been Tiffany's shadow account.

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Speaker 5: I was in an airport and it was a small airport,

498
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Speaker 5: so it might have been. It was Jacksonville or Tampa,

499
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Speaker 5: and I was at a I was walking by and

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Speaker 5: I kept hearing this voice. It was loud, and the

501
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Speaker 5: lady was like Andrew, Andrew, and I didn't turn around

502
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Speaker 5: right and here she comes. She was coming out of subway.

503
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Speaker 5: She was working. She stopped making this person sandwich. Oh

504
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Speaker 5: my goodness, in the middle of the sandwich, and she

505
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Speaker 5: came and she tapped me on. She said, Andrew, I

506
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Speaker 5: voted for you. And I turned around and looked at it,

507
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Speaker 5: and I said, thank you. Please please keep me in

508
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Speaker 5: your prayers, she said. She said, was nice as head.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, they gonna know what me then, yes, yes.

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Speaker 1: All right, Well people want to know how you feel

511
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Speaker 1: about things. So let's shift and get into the show.

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Speaker 1: One thing that I think we've all been really concerned

513
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Speaker 1: about is this federal takeover of black cities. And unfortunately

514
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Speaker 1: we had so much going on that we did not

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Speaker 1: get a chance to get to what was happening in

516
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Speaker 1: Chicago on our last episode. And I am personally devastated

517
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Speaker 1: and terrified about what's happening there. Just this week, Donald

518
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Speaker 1: Trump has threatened to arrest the mayor of Chicago, Brandon Johnson,

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Speaker 1: and the governor Governor Pritser.

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Speaker 7: And it's just frightening.

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Speaker 6: But for our viewers, take a listen.

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Speaker 1: This is sound from residents in this area where our

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Speaker 1: own government descended from Blackhawk helicopters and seized this housing

524
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Speaker 1: unit and zip tied children burst into apartments, just something unimaginable.

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Speaker 1: So for all the people that was like, this ain't

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Speaker 1: our business. This business has literally come knocking down our

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Speaker 1: front door.

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Speaker 8: The alarming scenes coming out of Chicago. There was this

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Speaker 8: early morning raid of an apartment building earlier this week

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Speaker 8: that evolved around three hundred federal agents, including those repelling

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Speaker 8: down from a black Hawk helicopter. As the Chicago Sun

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Speaker 8: Times reports quote, armed federal agents and military fatigues busted

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Speaker 8: down their doors overnight, pulling men, women and children from

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Speaker 8: their apartments, some of them naked. Residents and witnesses said

535
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Speaker 8: agents approached or entered nearly every apartment in this fire

536
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Speaker 8: story building, and US citizens were among those.

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Speaker 5: Detained for hours.

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Speaker 8: Agents claimed the neighborhood was quote a location known to

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Speaker 8: be frequented by Trinda Uragua members and their associates. DHS,

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Speaker 8: of course, gave no evidence to support that assertion, and

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Speaker 8: authorities did not confirm that any of the people arrested

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Speaker 8: were members of the Venezuelan gang.

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Speaker 10: They were terrified, the kids was crying, people were screaming.

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Speaker 7: They looked very destraughted.

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Speaker 10: I was out there crime when I seen the little

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Speaker 10: girl come around the corner because they was bringing the

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Speaker 10: kids down to had them zipsides to each other, and

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Speaker 10: that's all I kept asking, what is the morality? Where's

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Speaker 10: the human One of them literally left. He was standing

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Speaker 10: right here, he said, some.

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Speaker 11: Keep Meanwhile, Friday, federal agents handcuffed Chicago alder person Jesse

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Speaker 11: Flentis and briefly detained her. When she asked if they

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Speaker 11: had a signed warrant for a man they were trying

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Speaker 11: to detain at a hospital, she has.

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Speaker 1: A sign.

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Speaker 5: Turn around turnun.

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Speaker 6: You were going to be placed under.

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Speaker 2: Do you have a sign?

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Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, let me just say that

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Speaker 5: I think that the leadership is being displayed on the

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Speaker 5: front lines of the Democratic Party is something that is admirable.

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Speaker 5: And when I say the front lines, I'm not talking

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Speaker 5: about Washington, d C. I'm talking about what you're seeing

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Speaker 5: with Brandon Scott in Baltimore, what you're seeing with Andre

565
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Speaker 5: Dickens in Atlanta, Frank Scott and little Rock Randall Woofing.

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Speaker 5: And I am not I have not been a big

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Speaker 5: fan of Brandon Johnson in Chicago. I wasn't. I thought

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Speaker 5: that the job was too big for him. I was

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Speaker 5: very critical of him, have been very critical of him,

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Speaker 5: however during this time, and he's like found his footing

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Speaker 5: and you know the way that he's displayed and we're

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Speaker 5: not gonna always agree, and you know, it is what

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Speaker 5: it is. But the strength and courage that he's kind

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Speaker 5: of led his city through this time period, I believe

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Speaker 5: shows and different moments are met from different type of leaders.

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Speaker 5: And I questioned his ability to lead got when he

577
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Speaker 5: got elected in his first few months, but this moment,

578
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Speaker 5: he's really rising to that occasion. And I think that

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Speaker 5: because from the outside. This is where you know, you

580
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Speaker 5: guys may differ from the outside. When you ask just

581
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Speaker 5: the typical person that you bump into on the street

582
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Speaker 5: how they feel about the National Guard or somebody coming

583
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Speaker 5: in to help them tamp down on crime, which they

584
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Speaker 5: all know is a real thing, They're gonna be like,

585
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Speaker 5: that's fine, bring it on in whatever. I want crime

586
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Speaker 5: to be out of my communities as well. I don't

587
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Speaker 5: want my grandson or whatever. So listening to the mayors

588
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Speaker 5: who are on the front lines of the city, who

589
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Speaker 5: are actually articulating what's going on, why this is bad,

590
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Speaker 5: et cetera. These should be the messengers that we platform,

591
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Speaker 5: not the talking heads that we listen to normally on

592
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Speaker 5: this issue.

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Speaker 2: That's fair, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think first of all, I think Brandon Johnson should

595
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Speaker 4: do a masterclass on how to handle when you're you know,

596
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Speaker 4: being faced with the National Guard, any national law enforcement

597
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Speaker 4: invading your city, because he's been phenomenal. Even the idea

598
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Speaker 4: of like ice being stopped by ice trucks, like I

599
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Speaker 4: loved it, Like he was like, We're gonna barricade off

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Speaker 4: the streets with the ice trucks. I have to say

601
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Speaker 4: that I think one, I can't believe that we're here

602
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Speaker 4: in this moment where this is actually like a real conversation.

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Speaker 4: Mostly they've mostly targeted black run cities. It is forcing us,

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Speaker 4: I think the one positive. It is forcing us to

605
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Speaker 4: unite and figure out how to have strategies around best

606
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Speaker 4: practices with people who are not our body politic who

607
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Speaker 4: we don't normally agree with, and those mayors that who

608
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Speaker 4: don't normally agree there have there being faced with the

609
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Speaker 4: same set of circumstances. There is some polling out though

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Speaker 4: that says that people don't want national law enforcement in

611
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Speaker 4: their cities. So maybe they thought the National Guard was

612
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,800
Speaker 4: going to appear one way. But right now in Chicago

613
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Speaker 4: it is the Texas National Guard.

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Speaker 7: It ain't Illinois, you know it is.

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Speaker 4: So I just I think that somebody somewhere, some somewhere

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Speaker 4: deep it feels like, okay, now, y'all in our business?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, you know.

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Speaker 7: And I think it's just in some really inappropriate line.

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Speaker 5: Why did you not? Why did you? Why can't you

620
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Speaker 5: believe we're here? Because you said that? Because I mean,

621
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Speaker 5: Kamla told us what, she literally said that they were

622
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Speaker 5: going to.

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Speaker 4: Be We told people too, We told people too. I think,

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Speaker 4: you know, as I I told y'all earlier, I really

625
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Speaker 4: think it's the pace. It's a break neck pace. I

626
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Speaker 4: can't keep up. And I thought one probably part of

627
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Speaker 4: it is, like you know, they say, you can't change

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Speaker 4: anything until you accept it. I'm having a hard time

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Speaker 4: just accepting this is our reality, and I'm mad about it.

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Speaker 7: So there's a deep.

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Speaker 4: Seated resentment and bitterness about where we are. So that's

632
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Speaker 4: probably a part of it. That if I am to

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Speaker 4: accept where we are, I'm still like, I can't believe

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Speaker 4: that the number of people who won't push back, who

635
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Speaker 4: won't take the time to fight every single battle with

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Speaker 4: every fiber of their being.

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Speaker 7: I don't get it. I just don't get it.

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Speaker 2: I agree with you around disbelief around being here. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: part of the disbelief around being at this moment for

640
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Speaker 2: me is contrary to history. In this country, the various

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Speaker 2: branches of government generally act to protect themselves, to protect

642
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Speaker 2: their power and not to see it. So presidents, regardless

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Speaker 2: of party affiliation, they protect the executive branch, They protect

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Speaker 2: the executive of the presidency, the legislative branch per texts

645
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Speaker 2: the legislative power of that branch, and it doesn't matter

646
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Speaker 2: if their president is of the same party or not.

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Speaker 2: They are going to preserve their power. They don't give

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Speaker 2: it away. The judicial branch the weakest supposedly of the branches,

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Speaker 2: because they don't have the power of the purse and

650
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Speaker 2: they don't have a military to then enforce their decisions.

651
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Speaker 2: Their power only comes to the acceptance of people's ability

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Speaker 2: and willingness to accept their decisions. So the fact that

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Speaker 2: of all three branches collapsing, the judiciary happens to be

654
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Speaker 2: the one that it seems to be staving off the

655
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Speaker 2: total collapse by itself, and by the way, to be

656
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Speaker 2: more specific, the judges under the Supreme Court happen to

657
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Speaker 2: be the ones staving off a complete and total collapse

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Speaker 2: of every branch of government, bending the need to the executive.

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Speaker 2: The reason the frame has created three coequal branches of

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Speaker 2: government was not to put set one power above the other.

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Speaker 2: And what we've now done is he said, forget the

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Speaker 2: democratic experiment doesn't work. We prefer autocracy. They have they have,

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Speaker 2: they have conceded their power. It's not even consult they're

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Speaker 2: not jointly managing. The executive is doing what he's doing,

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Speaker 2: and every every every of the branch appears to be

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Speaker 2: collapsing to it. The other thing that is enraging to

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Speaker 2: me about that that imagery that we just saw is

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Speaker 2: when does the military decide that they are enforcing an

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Speaker 2: unjust and illegal order They are admonished to hear the

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Speaker 2: to follow the commands of the commander in chief when

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Speaker 2: they are lawful orders. When do they decide that the

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Speaker 2: orders that they're carrying out are not lawful? Because the man,

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Speaker 2: the military person who was sitting there laughing and saying,

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Speaker 2: forget those kids.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the others who.

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Speaker 2: Are putting handcuffs on elected officials who are in public

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Speaker 2: places and being told that they are now trespassing on

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Speaker 2: what are public places? The Chicago City Council, I'm sure,

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Speaker 2: puts millions toward their local hospital. She got more of

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Speaker 2: a right to be there than they have to be there.

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Speaker 1: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: So my fury right now is with those of us

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Speaker 2: who are in the system who have a role to play,

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Speaker 2: a duty to carry out. When does their humanity show

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Speaker 2: up in a way that says, you know what, it's

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Speaker 2: an order, but this is an unjust in an illegal order,

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Speaker 2: and I will.

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Speaker 12: Not carry about.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think people are tired because as much

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Speaker 5: as that enrages you, I think about the federal workers

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Speaker 5: who are without a job trying to figure out how

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Speaker 5: to make their ends meet sure because of Medicaid cuts.

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Speaker 5: Thinking about those people who don't have access to care

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Speaker 5: or who are working at those places. Now, I mean,

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Speaker 5: there's just and to your point, I think that's what

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Speaker 5: Donald Trump does extremely well. And I don't know if

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Speaker 5: it's Trump that's probably giving them too much credit, but

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Speaker 5: Steven Miller does extremely well, which has flood his own

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Speaker 5: They just put so much out there on us that

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Speaker 5: it makes people extremely weary, and that's what we're seeing

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Speaker 5: right now. I also think it's all to cover up

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Speaker 5: the Epstein files, but.

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Speaker 2: I see I think its I think it cheapens what

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Speaker 2: they're doing to blame Epstein alone. It is no doubt

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Speaker 2: a part of it. I think it is a convenient

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Speaker 2: part of it. I think their intention has always been

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Speaker 2: toward autocracy. The right wing has been writing papers, memos

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Speaker 2: about the power of the Supreme Executive. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: have a theory.

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Speaker 5: But this is how I view this conversation with right

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Speaker 5: all right now, we've already said because the first person

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Speaker 5: actually bring up the Epstein files was Donald Trump in

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Speaker 5: twenty fifteen. Clinton, this is this is the first person

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Speaker 5: to bring it right. And so he made all of

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Speaker 5: these promises. They brought everybody. I don't know if you remember,

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Speaker 5: they had all these right wing influences with these notebooks

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Speaker 5: and they held them up. And then Pam Bondi went

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Speaker 5: on TV and they were talking about the list, and

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Speaker 5: she said, it's right on my desk, I'm reviewing it,

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Speaker 5: contrary to what she said this week in her Oversight

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Speaker 5: Committee hearing. And I think what happened was there was

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Speaker 5: a conversation being had in the White House about the

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Speaker 5: Epstein files and how this is really really because you

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Speaker 5: have Marjorie Taylor Green. You had all these individuals asking

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Speaker 5: for him to be released, the right wing, lower lumin

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Speaker 5: everybody asking for it to be released. And they said,

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Speaker 5: where do we poll? Well, we need to we gotta,

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Speaker 5: we gotta figure out we pull well on crime. All right,

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Speaker 5: what do you want to do. Let's send some National

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Speaker 5: Guard into some cities. We talked about doing it. Let's

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Speaker 5: continue to do this. Where do we poll? Well? You know,

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Speaker 5: you you took off those things and you begin to

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Speaker 5: flood the zone. I actually think that, Yeah, I think

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Speaker 5: it has been written for years. But I think the

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Speaker 5: impetus to do it now is to because they were panicked.

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Speaker 2: The reason I rejected, and by the way, I hope,

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Speaker 2: I hope it doesn't matter the motivation in the long run.

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Speaker 5: And if they see that none of this will matter.

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Speaker 5: I forget her name, so they see the what's her name?

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Speaker 2: The member of Congress suit, and then they'll get the

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Speaker 2: floor vote.

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Speaker 12: Yes.

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Speaker 2: But but but I think the reason why it is

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Speaker 2: not helpful to make that the motivation or anything else

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Speaker 2: really is that it removes it lessens the consequence. It

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Speaker 2: almost erases the very deadly in detrimental impacts their actions

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Speaker 2: are having on our entire system of democracy. From this

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Speaker 2: point forward, no democratic Republican I don't know that we'll

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Speaker 2: ever see a president come into office who tries to

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Speaker 2: give back what Donald Trump has cleaved through the executive branch.

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Speaker 2: They never lose their power once it's a newer, once

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Speaker 2: that power is a newer to the executive We've never

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Speaker 2: known a president who says, I want to give back

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Speaker 2: this executive power. I want to give back the ability

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Speaker 2: to send the military. I want to give all that

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Speaker 2: stuff and stays with the officer. And I don't trust

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Speaker 2: not one of them sons of bitches with it.

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Speaker 7: Well, and here's the thing.

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Speaker 4: The invasion isn't just happening in our states and cities.

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Speaker 4: Is also happening on college campuses. And to that end,

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Speaker 4: we have a clip of what's happening with Blexit, especially

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Speaker 4: around HBCU homecoming.

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Speaker 5: Like the way you move in this.

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Speaker 3: Primited But what we created, all knowledge, we created our frights,

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Speaker 3: we created 'all.

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Speaker 11: That not even do.

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Speaker 5: Besides this, y'all didn't.

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Speaker 13: Do anything.

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Speaker 6: Showing them the door were walking them to the door, y'all.

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Speaker 7: I don't even know how they got on campus. We're

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Speaker 7: gonna figure that out, but I don't know.

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Speaker 4: They need to get like a trespassed like penalty or something.

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Speaker 14: Because sending them off selling that was gonna come up

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Speaker 14: like yeah, yeah, that good job.

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Speaker 7: I wanted to play this.

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Speaker 4: This is actually at Tennessee State University, where students were

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Speaker 4: like not on our watch. There are actually I think

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Speaker 4: it was three white guys with MAGA who went onto

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Speaker 4: the campus set up a table for debate, and where

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Speaker 4: I think we're really expecting during HBCU homecoming, blexit has

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Speaker 4: announced the tour. We're expecting our students to keep the

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Speaker 4: same energy, at least I am. Let's see what my

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Speaker 4: co hosts say. I want them to keep the same

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Speaker 4: energy offt them off.

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Speaker 6: If you say that.

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Speaker 2: Thousand. The reason why it this fight gets so removed

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Speaker 2: from everyday people, the way in which we're even you know,

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Speaker 2: dealing with the pot what branch of government functions in

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Speaker 2: which way this conversation you're going to you're gonna come

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Speaker 2: and provo, You're gonna be a provocateur to me on

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Speaker 2: my HBCU campus, reminding me that I'm not dirt right.

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Speaker 2: I'm not even equal to dirt right. These folks are

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Speaker 2: having to develop their own talking points, their own pushback,

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Speaker 2: They're having to use their own lived experience to delegitimize

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Speaker 2: these three white provocateurs who have come under their campus

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Speaker 2: and tell them that there's something that they're not. But

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Speaker 2: their experience is something.

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Speaker 4: If it's not that, let me set this up a

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Speaker 4: little differently. We know what happened at TSU. What is

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Speaker 4: a little different about this Bleckxit, which is black exit

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Speaker 4: from the Democratic Party. If we contextualize with those people

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Speaker 4: set up with turning point, I'm not even naming them,

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Speaker 4: but if we are to contextualize this, it is black people,

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Speaker 4: blackfaces who are going to various HBCU homecomings, inviting our students,

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Speaker 4: our young people in the conversation around conservative policy. And

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Speaker 4: so it's slightly different than the three white boys to

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Speaker 4: go in set of shop at TSU.

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Speaker 2: No, they went to do the same thing. They laid

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Speaker 2: out these pamphlets and wanted to talk about how they

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Speaker 2: their idea is more beneficial to black people. And what

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Speaker 2: I'm saying is it is helpful to us for all

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Speaker 2: of our people to deepen into why it is they

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Speaker 2: believe what they believe to be able to articulate in

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Speaker 2: their own words, why your agenda doesn't work for me,

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Speaker 2: because otherwise they wait for the politician to show up

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Speaker 2: on the campus, on the HPC campus during homecoming to

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Speaker 2: talk about their race for office, X, Y, and Z,

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Speaker 2: and guess what Once that campaign's over, that thing is

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Speaker 2: off and what stays is that I've developed my argument.

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Speaker 2: I know why I feel the way that I feel.

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Speaker 5: It came by the mind. It's not going to comment

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Speaker 5: on the reaction people should have when they come on

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Speaker 5: campus that you know that that is what it is.

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Speaker 5: Either you can sit down with them or you can

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Speaker 5: run them off. That's But there's a young lady in

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Speaker 5: Columbia South care Line. Her name's Diane Sumter, and she

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Speaker 5: I don't know how old she is. She's more seasoned though.

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Speaker 5: Shout out to Diane Sumter. But she's been around politics

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Speaker 5: for a long time and she's somebody that you know

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Speaker 5: when you run for office, you always want her on

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Speaker 5: your side. She helps black folk get city contracts, goes

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Speaker 5: through procurement, and she's been texting me about the same

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Speaker 5: issue for a long time. She hit me on Friday time. Abow,

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Speaker 5: good morning. You can draw the eighteen to twenty five

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Speaker 5: year old black males to help them register voting. Believe

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Speaker 5: in this democracy. I will help you. Your leadership can

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Speaker 5: make a difference. Diane something ten o'clock in the morning.

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Speaker 5: She's been texting about this just religiously. And while I

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Speaker 5: hear about chasing them off campus or sitting down and

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Speaker 5: engaging them, where are we in having these discussions where

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Speaker 5: that vacuum exists? Yeah, And like like I hear you,

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Speaker 5: and I'm like cool, At more House, They're probably more

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Speaker 5: House is decently contrarian enough where there probably is one

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Speaker 5: hundred black folk who will invite. I mean, we got

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Speaker 5: to we have a Republican club, and we might even

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Speaker 5: have a we might even have a talking point us

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Speaker 5: a charter.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, at turning.

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Speaker 6: Point at one point. But that's saying there.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so like we may have that as well. But

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Speaker 5: like the question is, and you know it's then you

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00:43:07,719 --> 00:43:09,560
Speaker 5: then you have a bigger and broader question, like is

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Speaker 5: it a new organization, what does this organization look like?

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Speaker 5: How do we get funded? Is the NAACP nimble enough

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Speaker 5: in their youth division like it used to be? You

856
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:20,640
Speaker 5: know where where are we in doing this? Are we

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Speaker 5: training our HBCU, SGA presidents right to do these things

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Speaker 5: and have these discussions? And so yeah, run them off campus.

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Speaker 2: It's cool put them on, but what they did, they

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Speaker 2: did just run them off campus. Though that brother at

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Speaker 2: the beginning of the video was saying, all y'all did

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Speaker 2: was still yes, we worked, we built, they deepened into

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Speaker 2: a truck.

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Speaker 4: But that's why I'm saying, I feel like if I

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Speaker 4: want to come to you, That's why I feel like

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Speaker 4: it's different because that is a conversation point that works

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Speaker 4: with white people.

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Speaker 7: Right. You can't say all y'all.

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Speaker 4: Did was steal this this and we're talking to black people,

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Speaker 4: So how does it change or ship?

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Speaker 6: That's my polan.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think you're going to change minds. You're

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Speaker 1: not going to change hearts and minds. And so I

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Speaker 1: want to hear from our viewers who are watching this,

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00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 1: like how they think we should engage because of to

876
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:03,719
Speaker 1: me Andrew, I feel like you're giving them bodies, you're

877
00:44:03,760 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: giving them faces. And so it looks like one of

878
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,120
Speaker 1: two things. One, it looks like you were able to

879
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: attract this large crowd at an HBCU, which helps get

880
00:44:12,080 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: them funding. Just for context, Turning Point was Charlie Kirk's

881
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 1: organization that got funding from all types of conservative outlets.

882
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: So you're saying, oh, look this is working because there's

883
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:23,400
Speaker 1: all these people. Two, if there's a lot of conflict,

884
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:27,200
Speaker 1: then it shows Oh it's mayhem at HBCU's when Turning

885
00:44:27,239 --> 00:44:29,320
Speaker 1: Point shows up, we need to send a national guard,

886
00:44:29,360 --> 00:44:31,920
Speaker 1: we need to send law enforcements to protect these white boys.

887
00:44:31,960 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: Decrease funding or decrease funding or these black faces carrying

888
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,640
Speaker 1: white messaging to these campuses. So my personal opinion is

889
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,120
Speaker 1: I would love for them to show up and nobody

890
00:44:43,200 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 1: engages them, like, don't let you're not going to disrupt

891
00:44:45,640 --> 00:44:48,640
Speaker 1: our black joy at HBCU homecomings, Like that is the time.

892
00:44:48,680 --> 00:44:51,719
Speaker 1: That's so lit, it's safe, it's fun. You know, people

893
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:54,680
Speaker 1: are watching the halftime show, people are on the yard,

894
00:44:55,160 --> 00:44:56,840
Speaker 1: people you haven't seen in years, and we need to

895
00:44:56,840 --> 00:45:00,640
Speaker 1: protect our black joy. But I'm saying, how does it

896
00:45:00,719 --> 00:45:04,280
Speaker 1: look if they are sitting there by themselves talking to themselves.

897
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:06,200
Speaker 5: The point is that that ship is sale is.

898
00:45:07,680 --> 00:45:09,480
Speaker 2: Getting to them anyway, it's sail.

899
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 5: Because because of the way that we consume information now,

900
00:45:12,560 --> 00:45:14,800
Speaker 5: in ways to them. And I don't have no Snapchat

901
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 5: mainly because Ellen don't want me to have a snapchat

902
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:19,240
Speaker 5: because why are you talking to people? And your messages

903
00:45:19,280 --> 00:45:21,840
Speaker 5: disappear at the thirty seconds? So I ain't really no

904
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:24,759
Speaker 5: need to have no snap Who you snapping? Right? So

905
00:45:25,160 --> 00:45:28,839
Speaker 5: that's first. But like snapchat, TikTok, you know the way

906
00:45:28,880 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 5: that people are communicating with each other now, I mean

907
00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:33,200
Speaker 5: I'm on Instagram and you know, I feel like I'm

908
00:45:33,239 --> 00:45:35,359
Speaker 5: a little too young to be using Facebook like that,

909
00:45:35,440 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 5: but they're they're streaming. I mean, like we one of

910
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:41,800
Speaker 5: the examples I gave you Tysonot. You know, there was

911
00:45:41,840 --> 00:45:44,439
Speaker 5: a question about whether or not Kamala Harris is gonna

912
00:45:44,440 --> 00:45:45,800
Speaker 5: be able to sit down with Kaysonat He was on

913
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:49,680
Speaker 5: the front of Time magazine. Joe Rogan. You know, people are.

914
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:53,400
Speaker 1: You saying, is penetrating the minds of our young people?

915
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,880
Speaker 5: And that's what they not only is it penetrating the minds?

916
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:57,680
Speaker 5: And I would say that yes, the answer to your

917
00:45:57,719 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 5: question directly is yes.

918
00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:00,319
Speaker 6: Young fall in for y'all.

919
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,880
Speaker 5: The reason but the reason being is because it's the

920
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 5: reaching reaching.

921
00:46:05,160 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 6: There's no.

922
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:13,239
Speaker 5: It's like going drinking. There's one stripper at the strip club, right,

923
00:46:13,400 --> 00:46:15,920
Speaker 5: regardless of what that stripper looks like, if she can

924
00:46:16,040 --> 00:46:20,680
Speaker 5: dance whatever, because it's a vacuum and ain't nobody show

925
00:46:20,760 --> 00:46:21,359
Speaker 5: up to work yet.

926
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:30,280
Speaker 2: I think Sean Pitman asks, sorry to interrupt the stripper.

927
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:34,839
Speaker 7: Yes, one says is.

928
00:46:34,760 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 2: What are we pretending not to know? This is my

929
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:39,840
Speaker 2: im want to credit Sean Pittman with asking that question,

930
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:45,000
Speaker 2: because we're pretending not to know that this information is

931
00:46:45,040 --> 00:46:49,279
Speaker 2: in mass taking up space in our community, on all

932
00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: the places and platforms in which we don't exist. I

933
00:46:52,280 --> 00:46:54,640
Speaker 2: hear the talking points coming back at us. People are

934
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,600
Speaker 2: recycling them as if they're their own, even finding live

935
00:46:57,680 --> 00:47:00,560
Speaker 2: experiences that they've had that they connect to these right

936
00:47:00,560 --> 00:47:01,319
Speaker 2: wing talking points.

937
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:02,560
Speaker 6: That is so frightening to me.

938
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,000
Speaker 1: I can go out of touch and out of the

939
00:47:04,040 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 1: loop because I did not think this messaging was pinished.

940
00:47:09,280 --> 00:47:13,120
Speaker 7: Exactly. Let me if we can, y'all.

941
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,120
Speaker 4: I just I think this is a really good opportunity.

942
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:17,920
Speaker 4: We talked about the invasion of cities and colleges. I

943
00:47:17,960 --> 00:47:20,880
Speaker 4: want to throw to one more example. Someone who teeters

944
00:47:20,880 --> 00:47:23,920
Speaker 4: on the edge quite a bit shows up talking out

945
00:47:23,920 --> 00:47:26,279
Speaker 4: of both sides of his mouth. He had this to

946
00:47:26,320 --> 00:47:30,759
Speaker 4: say recently about Jasmine Crockett. Sometimes you get attacked by your.

947
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,840
Speaker 8: Own Jasmine Crockett chooses to express herself.

948
00:47:36,040 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 2: I'm like, is that gonna help your district to Texas?

949
00:47:40,680 --> 00:47:43,440
Speaker 2: Aren't you there to find a way to get stuff

950
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,920
Speaker 2: done as opposed to just being an impediment to what

951
00:47:46,960 --> 00:47:49,680
Speaker 2: to what Trump wants? How much work goes into that.

952
00:47:50,239 --> 00:47:52,879
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna go off about Trump cuts him out

953
00:47:52,920 --> 00:47:56,440
Speaker 2: every chance I get, say the most derogatory and sending

954
00:47:56,520 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 2: everything's imaginable, and that's my day's work. That ain't work.

955
00:48:01,640 --> 00:48:04,439
Speaker 2: He's got to deal with black woman issues, Oh my god,

956
00:48:04,480 --> 00:48:07,680
Speaker 2: how large and whatever self hate exists within.

957
00:48:07,600 --> 00:48:10,399
Speaker 5: Them, it's self hate before I've never seen a clip

958
00:48:10,480 --> 00:48:13,359
Speaker 5: of him where he actually praises a black woman.

959
00:48:13,520 --> 00:48:15,920
Speaker 2: That he's got black woman issue he's got to deal with.

960
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,320
Speaker 7: But for those who are listening that with Stephen A.

961
00:48:18,480 --> 00:48:24,520
Speaker 4: Smith commentating about Jasmine Crockett's lack of work, for context,

962
00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,840
Speaker 4: there was a poll that was recently done and Jasmine

963
00:48:27,880 --> 00:48:33,319
Speaker 4: Crockett's approval numbers amongst the American people rival Barack Obamas

964
00:48:33,440 --> 00:48:36,200
Speaker 4: in two thousand and eight. So, just for context, he

965
00:48:36,360 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 4: is on an island unto himself because because people because

966
00:48:41,719 --> 00:48:44,840
Speaker 4: people see her largely working on our behalf. And I

967
00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:48,000
Speaker 4: also want to say we recently had Jasmine Crockett on

968
00:48:48,280 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 4: It was on my solo pod, and Jasmine is on

969
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:53,960
Speaker 4: the show talking about having to go get.

970
00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:55,759
Speaker 7: Fit for a bulletproof vest.

971
00:48:56,480 --> 00:48:58,840
Speaker 4: So it is this is not the time for this,

972
00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,200
Speaker 4: and it is very dangerous for this. So I hear

973
00:49:02,239 --> 00:49:04,120
Speaker 4: you even on the danger even on campuses. But I

974
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:06,359
Speaker 4: wanted to bring this in because this is the kind

975
00:49:06,400 --> 00:49:09,439
Speaker 4: of messaging they're hearing on their sports platforms, on talk

976
00:49:09,560 --> 00:49:12,200
Speaker 4: radio all the time. There is a growing divide between

977
00:49:12,239 --> 00:49:13,760
Speaker 4: black men and black women.

978
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:14,920
Speaker 1: Oh my god.

979
00:49:15,080 --> 00:49:17,919
Speaker 7: And I think that some of them are also leaning

980
00:49:17,960 --> 00:49:19,160
Speaker 7: more conservatives.

981
00:49:19,520 --> 00:49:23,920
Speaker 1: From Texas and Texas has this open Carrie law Governor

982
00:49:23,960 --> 00:49:27,600
Speaker 1: Abbott is such a dangerous, problematic false argument.

983
00:49:28,000 --> 00:49:30,040
Speaker 2: Yes, how much attention is just taken away from you

984
00:49:30,080 --> 00:49:33,200
Speaker 2: getting whatever you need for your district. The Republicans controlled

985
00:49:33,239 --> 00:49:35,479
Speaker 2: the House of Representative to send it in the White House.

986
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:38,200
Speaker 2: They not letting her get ish for her districts. And

987
00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:39,920
Speaker 2: so the best she can do right now, not just

988
00:49:40,000 --> 00:49:42,840
Speaker 2: for her district, but for the country is to speak

989
00:49:42,960 --> 00:49:46,319
Speaker 2: up and hold them to account at every single level.

990
00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:51,759
Speaker 6: Yeah, of course, but they would take that and taking

991
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:53,240
Speaker 6: like white.

992
00:49:53,080 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 5: Men yea, And they think I think they think, no,

993
00:49:57,520 --> 00:50:00,320
Speaker 5: I'm not just saying that snaps her fingers and and

994
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:04,200
Speaker 5: they caricature her like he's doing. And so my point

995
00:50:04,560 --> 00:50:06,680
Speaker 5: though is that, yeah, I didn't I didn't like the

996
00:50:06,760 --> 00:50:09,520
Speaker 5: back and forth with Jasmine Crockett and Nancy Mace or

997
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:10,680
Speaker 5: whoever it was, right, But.

998
00:50:10,840 --> 00:50:12,759
Speaker 6: Nancy Mays is the one that got violent. She was

999
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:13,000
Speaker 6: the one.

1000
00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:14,439
Speaker 14: Yeah.

1001
00:50:14,440 --> 00:50:17,359
Speaker 5: I know them both. I know them both very well.

1002
00:50:17,600 --> 00:50:19,960
Speaker 5: And you know that just because I was a legislator.

1003
00:50:20,000 --> 00:50:22,720
Speaker 5: So I look at that, I look at that totally different. However,

1004
00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,200
Speaker 5: I will tell you that there is a through line

1005
00:50:25,280 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 5: between the ice Cubes and the Jason Whitlocks and the

1006
00:50:29,120 --> 00:50:34,439
Speaker 5: the stephen A. Smiths and these individuals and ice Cube

1007
00:50:34,440 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 5: may be slightly different than the other two, but these

1008
00:50:37,239 --> 00:50:42,200
Speaker 5: but these, but these individuals have been around since we

1009
00:50:42,600 --> 00:50:45,839
Speaker 5: have been on this freedom struggle. There have always been

1010
00:50:45,920 --> 00:50:51,320
Speaker 5: individuals out there which exhibit behaviors of Charlatan's who utilize

1011
00:50:51,360 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 5: you know, some people are in it for the change

1012
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 5: and some people are in it for the change, right,

1013
00:50:56,280 --> 00:50:58,840
Speaker 5: And I think that that's indicative. And they found they

1014
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:01,359
Speaker 5: find the easiest path to the front of the line.

1015
00:51:01,800 --> 00:51:03,920
Speaker 5: And Stephen A. Smith is someone who doesn't have the

1016
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:08,520
Speaker 5: depth to talk about house oversight or the appropriations process

1017
00:51:08,640 --> 00:51:11,040
Speaker 5: right and how you're able to bring resources back to

1018
00:51:11,120 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 5: your community, or what Jasmine is doing. So he rather

1019
00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:17,680
Speaker 5: lampoon her or instead of having a constructive conversation. And

1020
00:51:17,800 --> 00:51:20,799
Speaker 5: so I just I've said what I've had to say

1021
00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,200
Speaker 5: about Stephen A. Smith in my book anywhere I can.

1022
00:51:23,560 --> 00:51:24,920
Speaker 5: I don't have a lot of use for him in

1023
00:51:24,960 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 5: the political dialogue. I think that, you know, I think

1024
00:51:27,840 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 5: that they are individuals who he matriculated with at Winston

1025
00:51:30,480 --> 00:51:33,279
Speaker 5: Salem State University that are extremely disappointed about the man

1026
00:51:33,360 --> 00:51:33,840
Speaker 5: he's become.

1027
00:51:34,960 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: I just because we have an equal We have equity

1028
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,960
Speaker 1: here among our gender divide, and it's so disheartening to me.

1029
00:51:44,920 --> 00:51:47,879
Speaker 1: It's frustrating one because anytime we speak on this, it's

1030
00:51:47,960 --> 00:51:50,120
Speaker 1: like we you know, man haters and all this. But

1031
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,479
Speaker 1: I feel such confidence in black men. I've never brought

1032
00:51:53,520 --> 00:51:57,200
Speaker 1: into the idea that all these black men are voting

1033
00:51:57,239 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: for Trump like they vote overwhelmingly Demmrik, We're pretty much

1034
00:52:01,120 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: in line with each other. What you all are saying

1035
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: is no they are, and the data shows that there

1036
00:52:07,239 --> 00:52:10,600
Speaker 1: have been in roads among black men. I want to

1037
00:52:10,760 --> 00:52:14,920
Speaker 1: ask why because it is frustrating to me, and it

1038
00:52:15,000 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 1: feels heartbreaking to be honest, because we are impacted by

1039
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:22,000
Speaker 1: this system as well. It's not a matter of who's

1040
00:52:22,040 --> 00:52:24,920
Speaker 1: impacted worse. We're impacted differently. We sit at the intersection

1041
00:52:25,080 --> 00:52:27,799
Speaker 1: of being black and being women, and so when men

1042
00:52:27,920 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: are frustrated with this system, it feels like they fight us,

1043
00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:31,800
Speaker 1: you know.

1044
00:52:31,880 --> 00:52:32,800
Speaker 6: And I would put Stephen A.

1045
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:35,799
Speaker 1: Smith in that category too, Like I'm mad at y'all

1046
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:38,760
Speaker 1: for having enjoy I'm mad at y'all for having success.

1047
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,400
Speaker 1: I'm mad at y'all for surpassing us on college campuses.

1048
00:52:41,600 --> 00:52:43,600
Speaker 1: And so it's a small sect of men that are

1049
00:52:43,680 --> 00:52:46,279
Speaker 1: so angry and hurt that they're willing to align with

1050
00:52:46,360 --> 00:52:49,160
Speaker 1: the people who will oppress us. What am I getting wrong?

1051
00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:51,200
Speaker 1: Because if you listen to Stephen A. Smith and you

1052
00:52:51,480 --> 00:52:55,359
Speaker 1: find anything other than some absolute, pure self hating, little

1053
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:58,680
Speaker 1: dick energy nonsense from that half witted idiot basking in

1054
00:52:58,760 --> 00:53:02,360
Speaker 1: the non existent raise of his own ignorance, it is

1055
00:53:02,600 --> 00:53:04,840
Speaker 1: sad to me that he even gets an audience of

1056
00:53:04,920 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 1: black men. Why are black men right now Sam stephen A. Smith,

1057
00:53:08,360 --> 00:53:10,279
Speaker 1: We've banned him. We not listening to his podcast, We're

1058
00:53:10,320 --> 00:53:12,840
Speaker 1: not watching his show anymore. That's what black women do.

1059
00:53:13,000 --> 00:53:13,680
Speaker 2: We organize.

1060
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:17,520
Speaker 5: But do you ask the question why, Yes, tell me why.

1061
00:53:18,520 --> 00:53:20,840
Speaker 5: By the way, I love the usage of adjectives love me.

1062
00:53:21,120 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 6: I'm sure I messed it up somewhere.

1063
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:26,399
Speaker 5: But the answer to the question why is it's kind

1064
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:29,560
Speaker 5: of twofold. Black men showed up. We were the third

1065
00:53:29,640 --> 00:53:33,759
Speaker 5: largest demographic voting for You had black women, you had

1066
00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:36,200
Speaker 5: Jews as a collective, and then you had black men

1067
00:53:36,400 --> 00:53:39,200
Speaker 5: somewhere between seventy four to seventy six percent voting for

1068
00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 5: Kamala Harris, and so yeah, it's not a large number.

1069
00:53:42,320 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 5: We still are there. But the slipp as you've seen,

1070
00:53:45,360 --> 00:53:49,840
Speaker 5: is twofold. The first is that there's been no party,

1071
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 5: no group which for the past twenty thirty years has

1072
00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:58,160
Speaker 5: taken the time to listen to black men holistically. And

1073
00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,800
Speaker 5: many times we are spoken to about policy. That policy

1074
00:54:01,920 --> 00:54:07,120
Speaker 5: revolves around things like criminal justice. But yeah, in marijuana.

1075
00:54:07,360 --> 00:54:11,040
Speaker 5: But very rarely, but very rarely, do we have wholesome,

1076
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:14,200
Speaker 5: fullsome conversations about the black men who are out there

1077
00:54:14,239 --> 00:54:18,200
Speaker 5: struggling to pay for early childhood, education, child support? Right,

1078
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:20,279
Speaker 5: you know how that age is? You know when you

1079
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,239
Speaker 5: know the craziest thing is when you get locked up

1080
00:54:22,280 --> 00:54:24,400
Speaker 5: for child support. Do you know that your child support

1081
00:54:24,440 --> 00:54:28,680
Speaker 5: continues to grow like it it's your driver's license get suspended.

1082
00:54:28,840 --> 00:54:29,719
Speaker 2: Unbreakable cycle.

1083
00:54:29,880 --> 00:54:33,759
Speaker 5: It's an unbreakable cycle, right, I mean, just opportunity stem opportunity.

1084
00:54:33,840 --> 00:54:36,799
Speaker 5: So just having a holistic, fullsome conversation around black men

1085
00:54:37,600 --> 00:54:39,960
Speaker 5: is something that hasn't happened. The other thing is, which

1086
00:54:40,000 --> 00:54:41,640
Speaker 5: is a question that we have to answer and hopefully

1087
00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:43,880
Speaker 5: we will untangle it over the next you know, one

1088
00:54:43,960 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 5: hundred episodes. While you're here, certainly while I'm here, is

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Speaker 5: there are a lot of black men who question whether

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Speaker 5: or not they have the ability to breathe and lead

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Speaker 5: in an era of black girl magic.

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Speaker 2: I will say what I would add because I disagree

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Speaker 2: in the latter point, but I do you agree to

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Speaker 2: this one, which is I think black men want the

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Speaker 2: bag too, and we on the democratic side don't talk

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Speaker 2: about don't talk enough if at all, well, listen about

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Speaker 2: how I'm will help you prosper What is prosperity for

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Speaker 2: us look like? So if at every turn you're the

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Speaker 2: deficit end of the equation. Every turn, somebody's got to

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Speaker 2: do something for you. You're not making room. And one

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Speaker 2: thing that Trump's agenda, I'm sorry, Trump's talking points appear

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Speaker 2: to do is to put you on track or on

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Speaker 2: alignment with getting a bag. I don't think that is

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Speaker 2: wholesale widespread. Yeah, Stephen A. Smith, I think he does

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Speaker 2: have issues with black women, but I also think the

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Speaker 2: brothers also trying to get and maintain and grow a bag.

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Speaker 2: And he's similar to a lot of the black Republicans

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Speaker 2: who ideologically could not articulate anything worth mentioning, are out

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Speaker 2: here caping because they're not in competition with the Bacari

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Speaker 2: sellers or Andrew Gillip But but they're at the front

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Speaker 2: of the line on that side because they're willing to

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Speaker 2: say the things that white people think and don't get

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Speaker 2: to say with license. But they got you cape and

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Speaker 2: clown who's willing to say it, and they get rewarded him.

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Speaker 5: But he looks he looks like money, he smells like money.

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Speaker 5: He talks love. He knows Lebron, you know Lebron that

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Speaker 5: can't stand him, you know, So he's there, he walks

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Speaker 5: with a swag. He went to an HBCU, So he's

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Speaker 5: the perfect messenger. And so yeah, when when people come

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Speaker 5: to him because he looks like he doesn't look black

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Speaker 5: men are always, always, always in the mode of survival always,

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Speaker 5: and he looks like somebody who's thriving. So you're more

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Speaker 5: inclined to listen to someone who has made it to

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Speaker 5: It's an aspirational thing. So that that is the That

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Speaker 5: is kind of the the why. Like if I if

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Speaker 5: Stephen A. Smith comes up, you know, it's like if

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Speaker 5: the question.

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Speaker 2: Is why always.

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Speaker 7: Willing? I think because I know where Tip is going.

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Speaker 4: If you all are willing this Black Girl Magic conversation,

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Speaker 4: I think this would be an excellent mini pod. What

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Speaker 4: I would love to do if y'all are okay speaking

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Speaker 4: of bleach bad, blonde built butch bodies. Who actually is

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Speaker 4: aligning with Democrats right now? Is the government shut down looms.

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Speaker 4: Marjorie Taylor Green has said that she is interested in

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Speaker 4: preserving healthcare. Contrary to the fact that eighty two times

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Speaker 4: plus the Republicans try to obliterate Obamacare, she wants to

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Speaker 4: preserve a little part of it because she wants to

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Speaker 4: censure that premiums don't continue to rise. So there's a

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Speaker 4: government shut down conversation we're gonna have. But before we

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Speaker 4: do that, we bring to.

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Speaker 7: It to this question from the audience right on the

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Speaker 7: other side of.

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Speaker 8: This head.

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Speaker 5: Nobody knows.

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Speaker 12: Hello, Nati Blam Podcast. My name is Matt Higgins. I

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Speaker 12: live in Cincinnati, Ohio. Have work also in Columbus, Ohio.

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Speaker 12: So I'm back and forth quite a bit. From my perspective,

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Speaker 12: I find it really difficult to reckon with the fact

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Speaker 12: that the political right has deformed our political process to

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Speaker 12: the point that it's unrecognizable to what it used to be.

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Speaker 12: And I'm frustrated with the political left for spending so

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Speaker 12: much time just simply refuting the lies that are coming

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Speaker 12: from the right and the racism and hate that comes

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Speaker 12: from the right. I understand that it's important to do so,

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Speaker 12: but I would like to see the left spend more

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Speaker 12: time communicating their plan for the future.

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Speaker 9: What are we going to do?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 12: And accurately, I feel like it's fair to say that,

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Speaker 12: you know, there's not a lot of progress to be

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Speaker 12: made in the midterms outside of slowing down the agenda

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Speaker 12: of the right. But if you rock with us to

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Speaker 12: the next presidential election and we have majorities in both houses.

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Speaker 12: You know, this is what we're going to provide for you,

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Speaker 12: and I feel like that's a much more consistent and

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Speaker 12: useful way to communicate with the American people. What do

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Speaker 12: you think, Matt?

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Speaker 7: Thank you so much for that question. Andrew.

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Speaker 4: I want to come to you because you know, one

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Speaker 4: thing that we keep seeing everywhere, no matter where we go,

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Speaker 4: even if it's people responding to the podcast, people are

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Speaker 4: constantly talking about how they really want you to run again.

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Speaker 4: I know you're like, and I'm living a whole life

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Speaker 4: since then, But coming to you because I think one

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Speaker 4: of the most important pieces of the campaign you ran

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Speaker 4: for governor was laying out of vision and I don't

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Speaker 4: understand why this is so hard for the Democratic Party

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Speaker 4: to do in a time where things are being taken

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Speaker 4: off the table left and right, people are suffering. It's

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Speaker 4: such a I don't want to say easy, but it's

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Speaker 4: such low hanging fruit.

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Speaker 2: It was feeling that way, Angela like is low hanging

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Speaker 2: free to turn the page. But I don't know a

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Speaker 2: better way to sort of sort of demonstrate this. But

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Speaker 2: if a building on our street is burning down, but

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Speaker 2: we have plans for redevelopment, a couple of blocks over,

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Speaker 2: and I spent my time talking to you about the

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Speaker 2: redevelopment that we have a couple of blocks over. But

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Speaker 2: the local media, the radio, my neighbors still see smoke blooms,

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Speaker 2: and I'm wondering what is going to be done about

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Speaker 2: this fire that is right now raging. They are not

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Speaker 2: going to have an appetite to hear anything I have

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Speaker 2: to say about this new redevelopment taking place a couple

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Speaker 2: of blocks over. I say that to say, absolutely, the

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Speaker 2: Democrats need an agenda. Absolutely, they need a reason to

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Speaker 2: give voters to go out and vote for them. But

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Speaker 2: they also have to be present in the fight that

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Speaker 2: we're in. And I know it's a frustrating thing, but

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Speaker 2: there's no we can allow them on our university campuses

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Speaker 2: and not have a check to that. There's no way

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Speaker 2: we can allow them to bear barricade down buildings like

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Speaker 2: we're in the middle of a bea route fighting a war,

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Speaker 2: but yet they're doing it on American cities and not

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Speaker 2: have a response to that. We can't let Trump continue

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Speaker 2: to run roughshot over the Constitution and not have a

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Speaker 2: response and an answer to that. So this is a

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Speaker 2: difficult one. Because it's equivalent to building the boat and

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Speaker 2: rowing it at the same time there but both have

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Speaker 2: to be done. My fear, honestly is is that we

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Speaker 2: don't have thinkers on our side that are right now

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Speaker 2: planning for what that vision roll out. Next step is

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Speaker 2: we're right now cinched and the war that's happening right now,

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Speaker 2: and the strategy for overcoming for what comes after, I

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Speaker 2: don't think has been had answer. It's one of the

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Speaker 2: reasons why I wanted to know during CBC to members

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Speaker 2: of Congress, who has the plan for accountability once this

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Speaker 2: next administration is out? How do you get to be

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Speaker 2: lawless for four years and nobody has thought about what

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Speaker 2: the consequence of that is going to be? Right, because

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Speaker 2: I can tell you right now Democrats are going to

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Speaker 2: say we need to turn the page. The American people

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Speaker 2: are exhausted by what we've just been through and need

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Speaker 2: to move on, and we won't have accountability for what

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Speaker 2: happened this time, and the failure to do that is

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Speaker 2: an invitation for the next time.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, Bakari, I heard you say, I'm gonna come to

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Speaker 4: you as the other elected on the set so Bacari,

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Speaker 4: So Bacari on this.

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Speaker 7: This same question.

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Speaker 4: I think that you all are the resident Democrats in

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Speaker 4: the building, and I and also run for office in

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Speaker 4: one what do where do you think the agenda come from?

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Speaker 7: Do you think that the agenda needs to come from

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Speaker 7: the people?

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Speaker 5: And that's why, yeah, no, I'll be relatively succinct, because

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Speaker 5: there is somebody who I admired in the way that

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Speaker 5: he grew the party and kind of took the party

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Speaker 5: at that time out of the doldrums. And you know,

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Speaker 5: for better or worse, we always look back at administrations

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Speaker 5: with hindsight. But Bill Clinton always told me whenever I

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Speaker 5: would speak to him, he said, ideas when elections idea

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Speaker 5: And we've gotten away from that. And I was speaking

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Speaker 5: at an event this past weekend at the York County

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Speaker 5: Democratic Party, and I told the candidates and everybody there, please,

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Speaker 5: for God's sake, stop talking about Republicans, like just stop

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Speaker 5: and start laying out a vision for the future. What

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Speaker 5: you did on your campaign? How are you going to

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Speaker 5: make people's lives better or different? And I think that

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Speaker 5: we have kind of gotten away from that. A lot

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Speaker 5: of the ideas and plans of that, to Andrew's point,

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Speaker 5: of the Republican Party are thirty forty years alec type

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Speaker 5: of initiatives that you know, think tank and they get

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Speaker 5: to a point. I mean, Roe v. Wade didn't get

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Speaker 5: overturned overnight. I mean, you know, the most consequential things

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Speaker 5: we've ever had happened, well since I've been alive, was,

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Speaker 5: you know, replacing Thurgood Marshall with Clarence Thomas. It was

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Speaker 5: this battle that not many people know that was fought

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Speaker 5: when SAMUELA went. The Conservatives got so mad George Bush

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Speaker 5: about to appoint Harriet Myers that they made him a

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Speaker 5: point Samuel Alito, whose mission in life was to overturn

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Speaker 5: Roe v. Wade. And then the fact that none of

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Speaker 5: y'all gave us about the Supreme Court and thought Hillary

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Speaker 5: Clinton was like pissing and windmills in twenty sixteen when

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Speaker 5: she was trying to tell you that, you know, the

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Speaker 5: three most consequential Supreme Court seats will have or be

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Speaker 5: up now. And so you know, I think that we

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Speaker 5: have to learn from that history and have some vision

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Speaker 5: going forward. But ideas when elections, and we right now

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Speaker 5: are not a party of big bold ideas.

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Speaker 2: We're not a party of big bold leadership.

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Speaker 5: Before we ever get to that in DC.

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Speaker 2: Well, unfortunately our eyes are trained, yeah, on Washington, because

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Speaker 2: that's where all of the habit seems to be emanating

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Speaker 2: out of, that's showing up on our streets wherever we

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Speaker 2: live in America. I think it's very hard to trust

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Speaker 2: a party with ideas or that they'll even pursue those

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Speaker 2: ideas at the moment where I need you to show up,

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Speaker 2: where I need you to have a fight, we're quite frankly,

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Speaker 2: you're giving grace on whether you can get.

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Speaker 5: A bill passed. Also have to do a better job

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Speaker 5: of like like I love Jasmine, and I love the

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Speaker 5: fact that Jasmine plays her role. Like Jasmine has a role,

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Speaker 5: and I think we're all like, I.

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Speaker 2: Don't think she even begged for it. I think that

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Speaker 2: she's had to fig.

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Speaker 5: People forget how brilliant Jasmine Crockett truly is. Like if

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Speaker 5: you were to look at like her resume on paper,

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Speaker 5: it like literally blows people's minds. But we also don't

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Speaker 5: talk about Laura Underwood enough, right, or Laura excuse me

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Speaker 5: Underwood or Joe.

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Speaker 6: No goose right, Well he voted for the no, he

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Speaker 6: he was not eating voted not vote.

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Speaker 5: But I'm just talking about people who are doing some

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Speaker 5: of the things that you're talking about. Now, Look, I'm

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Speaker 5: not a purity guy, and I think the prism of

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Speaker 5: the party has kind of shifted a little bit too

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Speaker 5: far left. That's my Southern Democratic leaning is coming out.

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Speaker 5: But but I'm not about all about purity. But I

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Speaker 5: do believe that we should uplift the those individuals who

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Speaker 5: have ideas.

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Speaker 2: I think unfortunately we're not in a play space and

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Speaker 2: age that is making a lot of room for all

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Speaker 2: of the What are all the new voices. Where the

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Speaker 2: center of gravity is going is who is in this

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Speaker 2: fight right now? Who's present? Who is showing up? And

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Speaker 2: I don't think we.

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Speaker 5: Should stream.

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Speaker 2: This is real deeper feel very I feel strongly when

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Speaker 2: we penalize the ones who are showing up, and that's

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Speaker 2: not what you're doing. But I think grit large what's

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Speaker 2: happening with Jasmine is there's jealousy, there's being taken off.

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Speaker 2: There are people who don't have the who are not

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Speaker 2: being able to show up the way that she is,

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Speaker 2: and they resent that they can.

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Speaker 5: And she's also speaking to people that we have just

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Speaker 5: plainly forgotten.

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Speaker 2: I think I think she's speaking beyond them because I

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Speaker 2: like to think of myself as a person who can

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Speaker 2: think deeply, and a lot of what she says is

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Speaker 2: completely one thousand percent resonant. I like the fact that

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Speaker 2: she's willing to I have to imagine that even there

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Speaker 2: are parts of her that fee a little compromise. That

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Speaker 2: she's only associated by certain people on social media with

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Speaker 2: being able to do a clapback. Right it's beneath her station.

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Speaker 2: She's doing the clapback because sometimes the moment requires kick.

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Speaker 4: It's for safety, and I think to that end, our

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Speaker 4: safety is being violated, like over and over again.

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Speaker 7: The latest violation is, of course, this government shut down.

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Speaker 4: So I'm gonna yield to you, ma'am, but I think

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Speaker 4: that it's important for us to talk about where people

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Speaker 4: are right directly in harms way, and the only fight

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Speaker 4: back is to keep them in harms way. That has

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Speaker 4: I think Democrat, the Democratic Party between a rock and

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Speaker 4: our place.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I would just say there are tangible

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Speaker 1: consequences to this government shutdown that people are experiencing. Right away,

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Speaker 1: I talked about this people and my immediate family received

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Speaker 1: snap benefits. Those benefits will likely decrease. We've already been

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Speaker 1: forewarned that that funding will likely run out, and so

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Speaker 1: that cast a dark chattel across a lot of things.

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Speaker 1: That's going to impact my money. I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: now subsidize somebody's full, you know, every need they have,

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Speaker 1: from deodorant to toothpaste, the tomatoes, the greens, the hot

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Speaker 1: food or whatever. And so even though I'm not getting

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Speaker 1: those benefits, I will be impacted with our travel, all

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Speaker 1: of us will be impacted as we see the airport

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Speaker 1: lines getting longer. And I talked about this on the

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Speaker 1: Breakfast Club. When we look at in twenty eighteen, what

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Speaker 1: happened with air traffic controllers. They began increasingly calling out

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Speaker 1: sick because they weren't getting paid. They already started this

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Speaker 1: time precisely. That puts our very lives at danger. And

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Speaker 1: do you think about the holidays coming up, people planning

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Speaker 1: on traveling to see loved ones. That's going to go away.

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Speaker 1: The funding for WI women, infinite children. All these people

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Speaker 1: who are self described as pro life. I don't call

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Speaker 1: them that, I think it's a misnomer, but they describe

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Speaker 1: themselves as that they voted for this. They're voting to

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Speaker 1: take away resources from families. You referenced Oh no, that

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Speaker 1: was Jubakari who referenced somebody's premiums who made, you know,

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Speaker 1: eighty five grand a year and his premiums are going

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Speaker 1: to shoot up from three thousand to twenty five thousand.

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Speaker 1: These are the real life, life consequences that people are facing,

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Speaker 1: and it is a frightening time. And I don't think

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Speaker 1: people really care about the minutia of politics and what's

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Speaker 1: happening in DC right now. I think they want to

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Speaker 1: make the connection of how is this impacting me and

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Speaker 1: what are people going to do to fix it. So

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Speaker 1: when we talk about like communications and you know, like

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Speaker 1: how are we messaging this to certain people? Forgive me,

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Speaker 1: you made this point already, Andrew. I think on one side,

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Speaker 1: it's just always a very simple message, like we've talked

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Speaker 1: about before, and yeah, these black and brown people are

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Speaker 1: taking from you like that's their only thing. And so

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Speaker 1: it's not that they're such brilliant communicators. It is that

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Speaker 1: they are all rooted in our destruction, and so I

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Speaker 1: don't give them credit. I think on the left side

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Speaker 1: there's a bigger tent and we all don't agree. Butkari

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Speaker 1: just said, which I'm curious. We'll find out on this

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Speaker 1: episode and other episodes, what does going too far.

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Speaker 7: Left look like?

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Speaker 5: Like? What is the shift it? But I do think

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Speaker 5: that one of the more I call it brilliant, brilliant

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Speaker 5: rooted in cruel strategies. It reminds me of Lee Atwater,

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Speaker 5: who's like a South Carolina phenomenon. But he blossomed into

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Speaker 5: it was busting migrants to sanctuary cities, but not sanctuary

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Speaker 5: cities in Kansas, right, But he busted them to New York,

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Speaker 5: he busted them to Chicago. And what were people competing over?

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Speaker 5: Black folk were competing over resources? And we didn't. We

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Speaker 5: never filled that void. I mean, everything I go back

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Speaker 5: to is like we haven't. We either fill the void

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Speaker 5: with a bunch of words or we feel it with nothing,

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Speaker 5: and we are not. There's like no ine between there

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Speaker 5: right now. And it talks about the inability and I think,

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Speaker 5: if I were to surmise leadership in this moment, we

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Speaker 5: don't have leadership prepared to meet this moment.

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Speaker 4: Let me ask you all this because again to the

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Speaker 4: two electeds on the set, of course, but I'm saying

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Speaker 4: y'all have y'all have run and won and been sworn in.

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Speaker 7: I guess my question is we always say, like, these

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Speaker 7: people are not meeting this moment.

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Speaker 4: If you were in Washington right now, let's say you're

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Speaker 4: in the Senate, you're or one of the two that

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Speaker 4: could or two of the two that could get them

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Speaker 4: to the sixty bout threshold to reopen the government. But

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Speaker 4: you know that once they reopen the government, if this

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Speaker 4: healthcare piece is not a part of that compromise, everybody's

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Speaker 4: premiums are going up. Nobody's health care is affordable, Obamacare

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Speaker 4: is no more. How would y'all meet the moment?

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Speaker 5: That's different than what they're doing right I mean, the

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Speaker 5: first thing I'd be doing is sitting down with some

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Speaker 5: soybean farmers. I have a white country redneck just overall

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Speaker 5: soybean farming. We just be sitting down having a cup

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Speaker 5: of coffee and drip in five points in Columbia, South Carolina,

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Speaker 5: talking about the fact that we he not able to

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Speaker 5: sell no soybeans to his largest purchase of soord beans.

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Speaker 5: But that's the I'm gonna sit down with him, and

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Speaker 5: we're gonna broadcast it, and we're gonna send it all

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Speaker 5: out so people can see the dichotomy of an older,

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Speaker 5: white rural farmer sitting down with this young black elected official.

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Speaker 4: Right, Well, I'm gonna push you back because you just

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Speaker 4: said a moment ago that, right, that what we always

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Speaker 4: do is either fill it with words, right, we fill

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Speaker 4: the void with words, or we don't fill it with anything.

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Speaker 7: So aren't you doing more words?

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Speaker 2: If you do?

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Speaker 5: No, I'm actually you're showing me listening to him about

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Speaker 5: the past. It's a video. I mean, you're we're gonna

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Speaker 5: clip it up. We're gonna build the content out. We're

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Speaker 5: gonna go out there and he's gonna be able to

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Speaker 5: so people are able to see it and be like, man.

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Speaker 7: But what does that do for the furlough worker? What

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Speaker 7: does that do for this?

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Speaker 6: So that's not the only thing, and it's not just

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Speaker 6: white farmers by the way, Well I.

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Speaker 5: Get all of that, but I'm just saying you're I'm

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Speaker 5: very intentional about the content that we're creating.

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Speaker 2: By the way, that that intention is also the one

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Speaker 2: that's been replicated in the Democratic Party in every.

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Speaker 6: Election appealing the last since.

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Speaker 2: The DLC is what he started. It were ideas, but

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Speaker 2: there were ideas that buy and large, sidestepped and malign

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Speaker 2: black folks because we're still dealing with the consequence.

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Speaker 5: We still are dealing with the consequences, no doubt, but

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Speaker 5: that we also have that benefit of hindsight as well,

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Speaker 5: because during that time period, we forget that the Congressional

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Speaker 5: Black Caucus, many of our leaders, right, we're rallying around

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01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:53,719
Speaker 5: many of those same ideas which in the light don't

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Speaker 5: shine as brightly as people sold it to us to be.

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Speaker 2: And there were there were also people, however, the time,

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Speaker 2: who understood that by making Maimie the the image of

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Speaker 2: what welfare in this country look like shasting effectly.

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Speaker 4: So Andrew Bakari sitting down with a soy bean farmer

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Speaker 4: who is white and in rural South.

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Speaker 2: Carolina, I mean, I'm organizing the ship out of every

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Speaker 2: person of color that we can come in the contact

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Speaker 2: with the way the way organizers do it. You go

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Speaker 2: to where people are, that's what the pain is being felt.

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Speaker 2: They have an agitation there.

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Speaker 4: In fact, it was like when you go out to

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Speaker 4: organize it just just talk to us like we're slow.

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Speaker 4: You're going out to organize and your call to action

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Speaker 4: is what how are you bringing them doors?

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Speaker 6: What are you saying?

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Speaker 2: I mean, we are readying ourselves for the moment at

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Speaker 2: which we get to kick them out. We're reading ourselves

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Speaker 2: for the moment he sends the National Guard into this city.

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Speaker 2: We're ready readying ourselves to be first responders to our

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Speaker 2: neighbors through the blood banks, the food banks, the whatever

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Speaker 2: we're gonna need in order to meet the basic needs

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Speaker 2: of people, because that's where rubberies meeting the road. This

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Speaker 2: is where people are complaining. This is where folks are

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Speaker 2: gonna need triage when they can't get into the doctor

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Speaker 2: or to have that imperative surgery or whatever done.

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Speaker 4: So you're organizing around Maslow's hierarchy needs. It's the bottom

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Speaker 4: level food water shelter.

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Speaker 2: Because if we don't meet him there, who the hell?

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Speaker 5: But I think I think that we I mean, I

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Speaker 5: think he's right. But I'm talking about also, like when

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Speaker 5: you talk about meeting those people, I'm talking about calling

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Speaker 5: because I'm an elected official, is said. I'm talking about

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Speaker 5: calling my local veterans hospital, getting their auditorially agree, having

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Speaker 5: those federal workers who are there or whatever come in there,

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Speaker 5: and we're gonna we're gonna lay out the benefits that

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Speaker 5: are available, talk about those issues, and we're gonna listen

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Speaker 5: to what they say and We're gonna do that at

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Speaker 5: every veterans hospital so we can kill a couple birds

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Speaker 5: with one stone. We're gonna stream it on YouTube and

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Speaker 5: Facebook so people have the ability.

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Speaker 2: To ability to it.

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Speaker 5: We're gonna make sure. We're going to make sure that

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Speaker 5: each event that I have, even if it's that soybean

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Speaker 5: farmer or I'm in the veterans hospital meeting with federal workers,

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Speaker 5: I'm going to make sure that there's one or two

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Speaker 5: people my staff touches and they're going to be writing

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Speaker 5: op eds in local newspapers because there's total people.

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Speaker 4: So are y'all when you guys, because y'all are both

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Speaker 4: still talking kind of if when you go back to

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Speaker 4: Washington to do your other part of your duty, are

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Speaker 4: you voting yes to keep the government open?

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Speaker 7: Are you still voting no?

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01:15:19,840 --> 01:15:24,200
Speaker 2: No, no, And it's not I'm voting yes to make

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Speaker 2: sure people have health insurance.

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Speaker 7: I mean you're voting no to make sure.

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Speaker 2: I'm voting yes to I'm voting yet we never fras

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Speaker 2: my objection, my objection, I'm yes, you.

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Speaker 6: Are, you're voting no, changing the framing no health care,

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Speaker 6: no vote.

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Speaker 2: And I don't buy with it.

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Speaker 5: For example, this week when Charlemagne asked us the question

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Speaker 5: of who's is it? Republican or Democrat? You don't have

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Speaker 5: to answer the question.

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Speaker 2: Unless you're writing the answer.

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01:15:55,320 --> 01:15:59,120
Speaker 5: Yeah, you can reject the framing of the question because

1515
01:15:59,800 --> 01:16:02,640
Speaker 5: my my objection is a yes for you to have

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01:16:02,760 --> 01:16:03,160
Speaker 5: access to that.

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01:16:03,280 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 2: I understood yours, and my answering yes, that it is

1518
01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:11,320
Speaker 2: the Republican's fault is because we have given ground that

1519
01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:15,439
Speaker 2: somehow there is some equality of responsibility at what's happening.

1520
01:16:15,720 --> 01:16:16,679
Speaker 2: There is no equality.

1521
01:16:16,760 --> 01:16:17,160
Speaker 5: We don't have.

1522
01:16:17,320 --> 01:16:20,160
Speaker 2: We don't have shared anything. There's no shared power structure

1523
01:16:20,200 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 2: in Washington. There is single party rule in Washington right now.

1524
01:16:24,640 --> 01:16:28,240
Speaker 2: The President, the US Senate, the US House, and by

1525
01:16:28,280 --> 01:16:31,120
Speaker 2: the way, the US Supreme Court all run by the right.

1526
01:16:31,240 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 2: And so you want me to now take some portion

1527
01:16:33,520 --> 01:16:35,400
Speaker 2: of the blame for while we're here.

1528
01:16:35,840 --> 01:16:39,240
Speaker 5: That and also a little unelected bureaucrats, which I think

1529
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:41,719
Speaker 5: is a separate portion of government that we haven't addressed

1530
01:16:42,080 --> 01:16:46,280
Speaker 5: because Donald Trump has empowered more unelected bureaucrats that fall

1531
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:50,280
Speaker 5: outside I think he's remade.

1532
01:16:50,400 --> 01:16:51,000
Speaker 2: He's remade.

1533
01:16:51,080 --> 01:16:55,400
Speaker 5: He has remade, remade it and empowered it. Because Elon

1534
01:16:55,560 --> 01:16:58,880
Speaker 5: Musk reported to no one, Yeah, I mean it's he

1535
01:16:58,960 --> 01:17:00,840
Speaker 5: didn't fall in any other I mean, it's the way

1536
01:17:00,880 --> 01:17:02,880
Speaker 5: that we're the way that we're analyzing this is like

1537
01:17:03,040 --> 01:17:06,120
Speaker 5: evolving under our eyes because the traditional three branches of government.

1538
01:17:06,479 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 5: You can't really tell me where Elon Musk falls in this.

1539
01:17:08,920 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 2: But the problem is that it didn't have to be

1540
01:17:11,439 --> 01:17:14,360
Speaker 2: that way. It didn't have to be that way because

1541
01:17:14,439 --> 01:17:16,280
Speaker 2: the system is set up for there to be checks

1542
01:17:16,320 --> 01:17:18,240
Speaker 2: on it. But when you're willing to give all of

1543
01:17:18,320 --> 01:17:18,679
Speaker 2: it away.

1544
01:17:19,000 --> 01:17:23,519
Speaker 4: Republicans board did that when they gave him criminal immunity.

1545
01:17:23,600 --> 01:17:27,040
Speaker 6: But this is something you want to talk about.

1546
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:27,680
Speaker 2: No.

1547
01:17:27,840 --> 01:17:29,559
Speaker 5: I just think that there used to be a time

1548
01:17:30,280 --> 01:17:32,040
Speaker 5: back when you were running for office, back when I

1549
01:17:32,080 --> 01:17:35,479
Speaker 5: was running for office in twenty fourteen, where every single

1550
01:17:36,280 --> 01:17:40,040
Speaker 5: every single interview mattered like people were. They may not

1551
01:17:40,120 --> 01:17:42,519
Speaker 5: have been hanging on your words for phrases or ideas,

1552
01:17:42,600 --> 01:17:44,960
Speaker 5: but they were looking at your demeanor, at your context.

1553
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 5: You know, people will pull you aside, said man. I

1554
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:48,880
Speaker 5: saw the interview on nightly news last night, but look,

1555
01:17:48,960 --> 01:17:51,080
Speaker 5: you look tired. You can't get tired on the job

1556
01:17:51,720 --> 01:17:53,799
Speaker 5: and it would kill your campaign or lifted up and today,

1557
01:17:54,040 --> 01:17:58,240
Speaker 5: well this week I'm still learning how to podcast this

1558
01:17:58,439 --> 01:18:02,599
Speaker 5: week there were there was a video by Katie Porter

1559
01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:05,280
Speaker 5: of an and I don't even know the journalist that

1560
01:18:05,439 --> 01:18:09,040
Speaker 5: well or at all, but she did. She did her journalism.

1561
01:18:10,360 --> 01:18:12,760
Speaker 2: Being a current member of the United States Congress was

1562
01:18:12,760 --> 01:18:16,479
Speaker 2: a Canadate for governor of the state. I think's I

1563
01:18:16,520 --> 01:18:19,840
Speaker 2: think she's a former member of Congress. I'm saying this

1564
01:18:19,920 --> 01:18:20,880
Speaker 2: because she should know better.

1565
01:18:27,479 --> 01:18:29,439
Speaker 13: What do you say to the forty percent of California

1566
01:18:29,520 --> 01:18:32,559
Speaker 13: voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted

1567
01:18:32,600 --> 01:18:32,920
Speaker 13: for Trump?

1568
01:18:34,640 --> 01:18:36,080
Speaker 9: How would I need them in order to win?

1569
01:18:36,280 --> 01:18:36,439
Speaker 14: Man?

1570
01:18:36,920 --> 01:18:39,559
Speaker 13: Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent

1571
01:18:39,840 --> 01:18:41,760
Speaker 13: of the vote, you think you'll get sixty percent? All

1572
01:18:42,120 --> 01:18:43,960
Speaker 13: everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.

1573
01:18:44,200 --> 01:18:47,479
Speaker 9: That's what you're in a general election. Yes, if it

1574
01:18:47,600 --> 01:18:50,160
Speaker 9: is me versus a Republican, I think that I will

1575
01:18:50,200 --> 01:18:51,400
Speaker 9: win the people who did.

1576
01:18:51,320 --> 01:18:53,360
Speaker 2: Not vote for What if it's you versus another Democrat?

1577
01:18:53,479 --> 01:18:54,840
Speaker 9: I don't intend that to be the case.

1578
01:18:55,920 --> 01:18:58,080
Speaker 13: So how do you not intend that to be the case?

1579
01:18:58,240 --> 01:18:58,400
Speaker 2: You do?

1580
01:18:58,520 --> 01:18:59,760
Speaker 13: You are you going to ask them not to?

1581
01:19:00,520 --> 01:19:02,320
Speaker 9: You know, I'm saying I'm going to build the support.

1582
01:19:02,439 --> 01:19:04,639
Speaker 9: I have the support already in terms of name recognition

1583
01:19:05,080 --> 01:19:06,479
Speaker 9: and so I'm going to do the very best I

1584
01:19:06,560 --> 01:19:08,479
Speaker 9: can to make sure that we get through this primary

1585
01:19:08,560 --> 01:19:10,360
Speaker 9: in a really strong position. But let me be clear

1586
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:14,120
Speaker 9: with you. I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area.

1587
01:19:14,320 --> 01:19:16,080
Speaker 9: I have stood on my own two feet and one

1588
01:19:16,120 --> 01:19:18,960
Speaker 9: Republican votes before. That's not something every candidate in this

1589
01:19:19,120 --> 01:19:21,559
Speaker 9: race can say. If you're from a deep blue area,

1590
01:19:21,600 --> 01:19:24,800
Speaker 9: if you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you don't

1591
01:19:24,800 --> 01:19:25,439
Speaker 9: have an experience.

1592
01:19:25,520 --> 01:19:27,240
Speaker 13: Is that you don't need those Trump voters?

1593
01:19:27,280 --> 01:19:28,559
Speaker 9: So you asked me if I needed them to win?

1594
01:19:29,360 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 2: So you don't.

1595
01:19:29,840 --> 01:19:31,880
Speaker 9: I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.

1596
01:19:31,960 --> 01:19:32,679
Speaker 7: What is your question?

1597
01:19:33,720 --> 01:19:36,080
Speaker 13: The question is the same thing I asked everybody that

1598
01:19:36,280 --> 01:19:40,360
Speaker 13: this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's

1599
01:19:40,479 --> 01:19:42,639
Speaker 13: power grab. Every other candidate has answered this question.

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01:19:42,720 --> 01:19:44,960
Speaker 9: This is not and I said I support it.

1601
01:19:45,560 --> 01:19:47,960
Speaker 13: So and the question is what do you say to

1602
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:50,599
Speaker 13: the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump.

1603
01:19:50,640 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 9: Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you

1604
01:19:52,720 --> 01:19:54,800
Speaker 9: need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm

1605
01:19:54,800 --> 01:19:56,360
Speaker 9: happy to answer the ques answer the question is you

1606
01:19:56,360 --> 01:19:57,360
Speaker 9: haven't written and all answer.

1607
01:19:57,560 --> 01:19:59,680
Speaker 13: And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think

1608
01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,719
Speaker 13: you need any of those forty percent of California voters

1609
01:20:02,760 --> 01:20:04,200
Speaker 13: to win, and you're saying, no, you don't know.

1610
01:20:04,320 --> 01:20:06,160
Speaker 9: I'm saying I'm going to try to win every vote

1611
01:20:06,200 --> 01:20:08,120
Speaker 9: I can. And what I'm saying to.

1612
01:20:08,120 --> 01:20:10,679
Speaker 13: You is that well to those voters.

1613
01:20:10,720 --> 01:20:12,320
Speaker 7: Okay, So so you I don't want.

1614
01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 9: To keep doing this, I'm gonna call it.

1615
01:20:13,920 --> 01:20:14,200
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1616
01:20:16,520 --> 01:20:18,479
Speaker 13: You're not gonna do the interview with them?

1617
01:20:18,560 --> 01:20:19,120
Speaker 4: No, not like this.

1618
01:20:19,240 --> 01:20:21,320
Speaker 9: I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single.

1619
01:20:21,200 --> 01:20:21,840
Speaker 2: Question you ask.

1620
01:20:22,479 --> 01:20:24,240
Speaker 13: Every other candidate has I don't care.

1621
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:25,400
Speaker 9: I don't care.

1622
01:20:26,120 --> 01:20:26,760
Speaker 7: You don't care.

1623
01:20:27,080 --> 01:20:27,639
Speaker 9: I mean.

1624
01:20:29,840 --> 01:20:33,519
Speaker 5: Ye who have made it this far in the hour

1625
01:20:33,680 --> 01:20:36,920
Speaker 5: watching us, Let me advise you don't never do it.

1626
01:20:37,080 --> 01:20:42,160
Speaker 5: Don't you know how you know? People come to you

1627
01:20:42,200 --> 01:20:43,679
Speaker 5: all the time. I want to be an elected official.

1628
01:20:44,000 --> 01:20:45,479
Speaker 5: Let me just I don't know how to get.

1629
01:20:46,560 --> 01:20:50,559
Speaker 2: You to let me tell you a race, mostly because

1630
01:20:52,160 --> 01:20:55,880
Speaker 2: are humility. Yes, there's no if so if we're talking

1631
01:20:55,880 --> 01:20:58,360
Speaker 2: about voters reading you, because that's really what they're doing.

1632
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:00,559
Speaker 2: They really don't know if you're answer is the right

1633
01:21:00,600 --> 01:21:03,479
Speaker 2: answer or the wrong answer. But there are people are

1634
01:21:03,560 --> 01:21:06,920
Speaker 2: looking for the texture of who this person is. If

1635
01:21:06,920 --> 01:21:10,040
Speaker 2: you're going to leave me what am I getting, and

1636
01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,840
Speaker 2: the kind of arrogance that is displayed by this former

1637
01:21:13,920 --> 01:21:16,160
Speaker 2: member or current I'm not sure a former member of

1638
01:21:16,320 --> 01:21:20,080
Speaker 2: Congress when her simple answer should have been, what are

1639
01:21:20,120 --> 01:21:22,800
Speaker 2: you going to say to those forty that forty who

1640
01:21:22,880 --> 01:21:25,560
Speaker 2: voted for Trump? I'm going to do everything that I

1641
01:21:25,720 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: can to compete for their vote based off of the

1642
01:21:29,600 --> 01:21:32,240
Speaker 2: vision that I'm forwarding. I hope that that forty percent

1643
01:21:32,400 --> 01:21:36,240
Speaker 2: learned what a fraud, liar and a cheap Donald Trump

1644
01:21:36,400 --> 01:21:38,000
Speaker 2: was to them. But I don't blame them for that.

1645
01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:42,200
Speaker 2: I blame him, the liar that I mean. It's there's

1646
01:21:42,280 --> 01:21:43,559
Speaker 2: so much. I mean, you don't have to say I'm

1647
01:21:43,560 --> 01:21:45,439
Speaker 2: gonna capitulate and say that I'm going to do what

1648
01:21:45,479 --> 01:21:48,280
Speaker 2: Trump did, and you don't do any of that. Her

1649
01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:53,000
Speaker 2: arrogance is what stuck out the most of me her responses.

1650
01:21:53,080 --> 01:21:54,680
Speaker 2: There are a million ways to have dealt with that.

1651
01:21:55,280 --> 01:21:59,200
Speaker 2: But I've seen this in other democratic politics we probably

1652
01:21:59,200 --> 01:22:01,679
Speaker 2: all have all over the country, where there's this sense

1653
01:22:01,720 --> 01:22:06,439
Speaker 2: of entitlement that creeps in, that tells you out loud

1654
01:22:06,560 --> 01:22:10,040
Speaker 2: somehow that there's certain things that are beneath your station

1655
01:22:11,120 --> 01:22:14,320
Speaker 2: that you are beyond reproach on your votes. We saw

1656
01:22:14,520 --> 01:22:16,759
Speaker 2: we played a couple of weeks back, those members of Congress,

1657
01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:21,200
Speaker 2: Asian members, Asian Pacific Island members who were asked by

1658
01:22:21,240 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 2: their voters, how can I trust you? You voted for

1659
01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:27,440
Speaker 2: Charlie Kirk, And they turned around with such fury attitude,

1660
01:22:27,640 --> 01:22:29,880
Speaker 2: more hate for the person who was on their side

1661
01:22:29,920 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 2: asking them and hold them accountable than they were for

1662
01:22:32,360 --> 01:22:34,400
Speaker 2: the Republican members who put them in position to have

1663
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,439
Speaker 2: to make a vote one way or another. I sell

1664
01:22:36,560 --> 01:22:39,920
Speaker 2: that to say, this is case in point our leadership

1665
01:22:40,000 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 2: right now in the Democratic Party, that we have folks

1666
01:22:43,479 --> 01:22:49,040
Speaker 2: who are disconnected, who are out of touch, who have

1667
01:22:49,200 --> 01:22:50,680
Speaker 2: forgotten why they're in this thing.

1668
01:22:50,960 --> 01:22:53,000
Speaker 7: And the other thing is you don't really I don't.

1669
01:22:53,120 --> 01:22:55,880
Speaker 4: I would advise, as someone who you know, traffics in

1670
01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:57,519
Speaker 4: communication strategy a little bit.

1671
01:22:57,640 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 7: I would not advise a reporter that you can have

1672
01:23:00,400 --> 01:23:02,640
Speaker 7: follow up questions that.

1673
01:23:04,720 --> 01:23:09,519
Speaker 5: Interview of it. That's the language was what threw me off.

1674
01:23:09,600 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 5: I mean, first of all, the lack of humility for

1675
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,720
Speaker 5: me comes off in language I'm the front runner. It's

1676
01:23:14,800 --> 01:23:17,639
Speaker 5: not something you should ever say, right if somebody asks

1677
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:21,560
Speaker 5: you about if somebody ask you about the electorate, like

1678
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:24,120
Speaker 5: you said, you're going to compete because I'm not going to.

1679
01:23:24,479 --> 01:23:26,920
Speaker 5: I'm not going to. I'm not governor of sixty percent, right,

1680
01:23:27,160 --> 01:23:29,400
Speaker 5: I'm going to compete for every vote. Now, this is now.

1681
01:23:29,479 --> 01:23:31,840
Speaker 5: This is also how you get beat by Republican. If

1682
01:23:31,840 --> 01:23:36,080
Speaker 5: there was any Republican worth a skill in California. They

1683
01:23:36,200 --> 01:23:38,640
Speaker 5: take that forty percent, They throw some wedges out there

1684
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:41,519
Speaker 5: amongst Hispanic and black voters. They start talking with people

1685
01:23:41,560 --> 01:23:43,160
Speaker 5: because right now, I don't know if she's gonna say that.

1686
01:23:43,200 --> 01:23:45,000
Speaker 2: They would make it real simple, they say, you know what,

1687
01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 2: Katie doesn't care about that forty but I care about

1688
01:23:47,760 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 2: all one hundred. I'm a governor for every single one

1689
01:23:50,200 --> 01:23:50,320
Speaker 2: of you.

1690
01:23:50,400 --> 01:23:52,639
Speaker 1: I think it's also very Trumpian who attacked the press

1691
01:23:53,040 --> 01:23:56,360
Speaker 1: like this is a local reporter interviewing a candidate, doing

1692
01:23:56,479 --> 01:23:58,599
Speaker 1: her job, for you to have the arrogance to tell

1693
01:23:58,640 --> 01:24:00,439
Speaker 1: her it's your follow up questions.

1694
01:24:00,479 --> 01:24:00,920
Speaker 2: I don't like.

1695
01:24:02,880 --> 01:24:07,080
Speaker 1: Camera, Yes, I don't have I mean to me, look,

1696
01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,240
Speaker 1: I think there is a level of white woman entitlement

1697
01:24:10,320 --> 01:24:13,120
Speaker 1: to this too, that you feel like you have the

1698
01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:16,160
Speaker 1: authority over this interview because maybe ain't nobody ever told

1699
01:24:16,240 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: you you're not in charge and it's not gonna go

1700
01:24:18,120 --> 01:24:20,800
Speaker 1: your way today, and you feel like you're entitled to

1701
01:24:21,120 --> 01:24:23,920
Speaker 1: these voters, you feel like you're entitled to control this interview,

1702
01:24:24,120 --> 01:24:26,120
Speaker 1: and then when you don't get your way, you're gonna

1703
01:24:26,160 --> 01:24:28,720
Speaker 1: take your ball and go home. That doesn't appeal to

1704
01:24:28,840 --> 01:24:33,240
Speaker 1: me as as a voter as anybody's.

1705
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:36,040
Speaker 5: About ahead.

1706
01:24:36,040 --> 01:24:38,400
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, you know, because we're going to close this out.

1707
01:24:38,479 --> 01:24:39,519
Speaker 7: So if you feel I was just.

1708
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:42,760
Speaker 5: Gonna say, like, look, I think respectfully, I think calling

1709
01:24:42,840 --> 01:24:45,040
Speaker 5: it a white woman thing, although probably has a great

1710
01:24:45,080 --> 01:24:47,360
Speaker 5: deal of truth, is kind of selling it short. Because

1711
01:24:47,400 --> 01:24:49,280
Speaker 5: we have a lot of older members, we have a

1712
01:24:49,320 --> 01:24:51,320
Speaker 5: lot of black members, We have a lot of people

1713
01:24:51,360 --> 01:24:54,400
Speaker 5: who treat their voters and the press with a level

1714
01:24:54,439 --> 01:24:59,680
Speaker 5: of disdain that I don't want to discount. I think

1715
01:24:59,720 --> 01:25:04,600
Speaker 5: that against it's a cancer. I think it's more than

1716
01:25:04,680 --> 01:25:06,800
Speaker 5: that narrow. I mean, that's just what I see, but

1717
01:25:06,840 --> 01:25:07,519
Speaker 5: I agree with that.

1718
01:25:07,800 --> 01:25:09,280
Speaker 7: I definitely have seen it.

1719
01:25:09,400 --> 01:25:12,000
Speaker 4: I think it's rare, Like I know a lot more

1720
01:25:12,080 --> 01:25:14,960
Speaker 4: members who are humble and treat everybody so kindly that

1721
01:25:15,120 --> 01:25:16,600
Speaker 4: it'll delay us getting.

1722
01:25:16,360 --> 01:25:17,840
Speaker 7: Somewhere, if you know what I mean.

1723
01:25:17,960 --> 01:25:20,720
Speaker 4: So I don't see that like rit large, but I've

1724
01:25:20,800 --> 01:25:23,920
Speaker 4: definitely seen it. I think the thing that is most troubling.

1725
01:25:24,040 --> 01:25:27,040
Speaker 4: I would normally y'all know, especially for anybody in Congress.

1726
01:25:27,080 --> 01:25:29,160
Speaker 4: I'm gonna try to find well, maybe she was having

1727
01:25:29,200 --> 01:25:31,000
Speaker 4: a bad day, Maybe she was triggered by the question.

1728
01:25:31,320 --> 01:25:33,080
Speaker 4: I feel like the reporter at the beginning. We had

1729
01:25:33,200 --> 01:25:35,920
Speaker 4: some little asshole moves about her too. But the issue

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Speaker 4: I have is, this is what Katie said she did

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Speaker 4: every day and office.

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Speaker 6: So I ain't got that Katie. I don't think she

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Speaker 6: was announcehole. I thought she was doing her job.

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Speaker 7: I could see.

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Speaker 6: She's there to pressure for answer, making a pressure.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna pressure all to get calls.

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Speaker 6: To because I do want to talk about this football

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Speaker 6: player the car.

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Speaker 5: You will learn that call action.

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Speaker 6: Actually, okay, okay, well, I just want to thank you.

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Speaker 6: Normally sports is my thing, and.

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Speaker 5: Right after this break, we're going to get into our

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Speaker 5: calls to action, So please stay tuned. I think mine's

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Speaker 5: gonna be the best.

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Speaker 13: But you know.

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Speaker 2: Who cares about truth in the last.

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Speaker 14: Morning, It.

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Speaker 5: Kiren Lacy. God rest his soul is someone who took

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Speaker 5: his life at a really, really young age. And asking

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Speaker 5: me that's a difficult question.

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Speaker 6: I really wanted to know.

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Speaker 5: I was a former former college football player at Louisiana

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Speaker 5: State University, an amazing and amazing wide receiver. He was

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Speaker 5: really good friends with Malik Neighbors, who plays not far

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Speaker 5: from where we're broadcasting here with the New York Giants.

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Speaker 5: And you went through this process whereby there was an

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Speaker 5: accident that occurred, and he's twenty five, and when the

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Speaker 5: accident occurred, of course he went through this a criminal process.

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Speaker 5: We're still adjudicating the fairness of that criminal process. I

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Speaker 5: have a problem with the DA silence because a young

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Speaker 5: man is dead, and so there is no privy to

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Speaker 5: a close investigative file. Because the person is dead that

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01:27:13,720 --> 01:27:16,479
Speaker 5: you're charging, that is now open public record. We can

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Speaker 5: have a full dialogue about what you saw while you

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Speaker 5: charge the way you did, and a certain level of transparency,

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Speaker 5: But I don't want to go into the facts too

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Speaker 5: much of this case. I prefer to talk about the

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Speaker 5: fact that we persecute and prosecute people on social media

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Speaker 5: in our daily conversations without knowing the full state of

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Speaker 5: the facts, without knowing the well being of the individual

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Speaker 5: we're talking about, without knowing the reasoning or the full context,

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Speaker 5: and we have been conditioned in this age this kind

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01:27:50,520 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 5: of magdonalized world where everything has to be fast, everything

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01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:57,720
Speaker 5: has to be quick, and we do it without any

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Speaker 5: level of grace. And so my call to action, first

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01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:02,439
Speaker 5: call to action, is to make sure that as we

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Speaker 5: go forward, even if you don't know Karen Lacey or

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01:28:05,360 --> 01:28:08,800
Speaker 5: he's his mother, no longer has a son, right, I

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Speaker 5: want us to proceed with a certain level of grace

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Speaker 5: throughout this political process. And I know that they're people

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Speaker 5: who say there's certain people who don't deserve grace. Let

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Speaker 5: me just tell you this, it's a lot easier to

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Speaker 5: give yourself grace if you practice giving others grace.

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Speaker 8: That's so true.

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Speaker 2: Opposite, I appreciate it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it is really hard to give yourself grace.

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Speaker 5: I mean, grace is such a fascinating word because it's

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Speaker 5: what I deduce, and I'm playing with the word a

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01:28:36,680 --> 01:28:40,240
Speaker 5: lot spiritually and otherwise, that it's something that we literally

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01:28:40,280 --> 01:28:42,880
Speaker 5: don't give another others enough of, or ourselfs. We're so

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01:28:43,080 --> 01:28:46,000
Speaker 5: hard on ourselves, and the reason is is because it's

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Speaker 5: reflected in the way that we treat others. I mean,

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Speaker 5: you can't just you can't turn it off and on.

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Speaker 1: Honestly, I'm guilty of that too. Of not giving people

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Speaker 1: grace or weighing in on the conversation that perhaps I

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01:28:57,840 --> 01:29:00,600
Speaker 1: don't have a place. One of our friends is on

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Speaker 1: a podcast and he had an ugly exchange with this

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01:29:03,479 --> 01:29:05,640
Speaker 1: woman and I wasn't as familiar with the woman, and

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Speaker 1: I just thought, I don't like how she dismissed his point.

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Speaker 6: I didn't like it. And then later it came out

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Speaker 6: of the two used to date and I'm like, see.

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Speaker 1: That's why you need to mind your business because I

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01:29:14,680 --> 01:29:18,320
Speaker 1: didn't even know all that, you know, because she.

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Speaker 6: Was I mean, do you have an issue with me?

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01:29:19,479 --> 01:29:23,920
Speaker 6: They were going back and forth. I was like, this

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01:29:24,080 --> 01:29:26,320
Speaker 6: is why I should just keep you. I don't need

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01:29:26,360 --> 01:29:27,920
Speaker 6: to weigh in with an opinion on everything.

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01:29:29,200 --> 01:29:30,840
Speaker 7: Is it my turn to go? I guess so okay,

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Speaker 7: keep going.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So my call to action. I'm going to actually

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Speaker 1: tell you about my weekend plans because it's part of

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01:29:38,000 --> 01:29:40,640
Speaker 1: my call to action. So you guys know that I

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Speaker 1: am roommates with Michael Harriet and his lovely wife Karen. Yes,

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01:29:44,560 --> 01:29:46,640
Speaker 1: they don't know that I'm officially a roommate. I've been

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01:29:46,680 --> 01:29:49,519
Speaker 1: there many times. They've never me I'm a squatter, thank you.

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Speaker 1: I am a squatter. I want to say happy birthday

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Speaker 1: to Michael Harriet, the amazing author of black a f

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Speaker 1: history that is still on the New York Times Best

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01:29:59,360 --> 01:30:00,880
Speaker 1: that Ware. It was two year later, which is crazy.

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01:30:01,160 --> 01:30:04,240
Speaker 1: But he is having a Sinner's Birthday party that is

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01:30:04,320 --> 01:30:07,479
Speaker 1: all about. The theme is the movie Sinners, and we're

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01:30:07,520 --> 01:30:09,760
Speaker 1: all dressing up and our juke joint attire is in

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01:30:09,840 --> 01:30:12,200
Speaker 1: the Deep South, and people from all over the country

1824
01:30:12,240 --> 01:30:16,080
Speaker 1: are flying in from LA from New York, from all over,

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01:30:16,080 --> 01:30:20,960
Speaker 1: from Georgia, from Mississippi, Alabama, from Tallahassee, everywhere. And so

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Speaker 1: my call to action is in these times, we are

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Speaker 1: giving ourselves permission this weekend to have black joy, to

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01:30:29,000 --> 01:30:32,280
Speaker 1: celebrate not only our history and that time period, the

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01:30:32,280 --> 01:30:35,839
Speaker 1: beautiful black art that was created in the movie Centers.

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01:30:36,400 --> 01:30:41,240
Speaker 1: We are coming together to dance, to laugh, Mike Is

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01:30:41,280 --> 01:30:43,320
Speaker 1: and Omega. A lot of Omega's Company's gonna turn into

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01:30:43,320 --> 01:30:46,479
Speaker 1: a big Omega hop. But it's just a beautiful evening

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Speaker 1: and so I just want to encourage other people have

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01:30:49,360 --> 01:30:51,280
Speaker 1: your black joy. Oh and I want to give a

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01:30:51,360 --> 01:30:53,040
Speaker 1: quick shout out to Angela and I. We have a

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01:30:53,080 --> 01:30:56,559
Speaker 1: wonderful makeup artist almost forgot who has this new line.

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01:30:57,000 --> 01:30:58,680
Speaker 1: This one is called girl one Girl, the other one

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01:30:58,760 --> 01:31:03,360
Speaker 1: is what millionaire sex girl on girl and Millionaire another

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01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:04,040
Speaker 1: body oil.

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Speaker 7: So they smell so good.

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01:31:06,160 --> 01:31:09,640
Speaker 6: We're wearing them today. What you smell like though, let

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01:31:09,760 --> 01:31:10,760
Speaker 6: him smell honeycomb.

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01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:16,840
Speaker 1: Billy Jean is our makeup artists and so he's he

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01:31:16,960 --> 01:31:19,519
Speaker 1: gave us this but also like does our makeup and

1845
01:31:19,560 --> 01:31:22,560
Speaker 1: takes us through metamorphosis. He was doing Ansel's makeup and

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01:31:22,640 --> 01:31:25,639
Speaker 1: I was rushing and Angela, he said, you're not gonna

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01:31:25,680 --> 01:31:28,519
Speaker 1: wear me out this morning and let them continue.

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Speaker 4: But it's called Billy Jean Body. Yes, all of all

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01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:37,680
Speaker 4: the names of his body oils are very provocative.

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Speaker 7: I am my.

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Speaker 4: My call to action is again you all, this is

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01:31:44,200 --> 01:31:46,760
Speaker 4: our hundredth episode. We've technically done a lot more, but

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01:31:46,840 --> 01:31:50,880
Speaker 4: this is our hundredth main episode. And my encouragement to

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01:31:50,960 --> 01:31:54,120
Speaker 4: you all is, if you didn't learn enough about Bakari,

1855
01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,559
Speaker 4: make sure you check him out, follow him on socials.

1856
01:31:56,840 --> 01:31:58,720
Speaker 4: His numbers are down way too low for us. We

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01:31:58,840 --> 01:32:02,760
Speaker 4: actually need him to tell at Bakari sellers, make sure

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01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:05,760
Speaker 4: that you follow them quickly. You can catch them on

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01:32:05,840 --> 01:32:08,680
Speaker 4: seeing it as well. And the last thing I'll say is.

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Speaker 4: We also launched our substack with this hundredth episode. We

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01:32:11,840 --> 01:32:14,120
Speaker 4: want you all to focus there as well. I'm hoping

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01:32:14,160 --> 01:32:15,840
Speaker 4: I can get all these guys to write on there

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01:32:15,880 --> 01:32:17,800
Speaker 4: as well as to do some substack lives on their

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Speaker 4: own pages as well as on our native Lampop page.

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Speaker 4: So that is our way to welcome you home and

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Speaker 4: to come even closer into this community.

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Speaker 7: Andrew gill I.

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01:32:25,520 --> 01:32:27,800
Speaker 2: Said, we were supposed to have like toast drinks and

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01:32:27,840 --> 01:32:31,320
Speaker 2: stuff to one some mocktails for everybody.

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Speaker 5: Shows how much they listen to your input.

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01:32:37,880 --> 01:32:39,360
Speaker 2: Would have done it, I remember, I said, and you

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01:32:39,400 --> 01:32:40,439
Speaker 2: were like, yeah, we'll have to remember that.

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01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:42,240
Speaker 7: Did you remind me?

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01:32:48,040 --> 01:32:51,240
Speaker 5: We're like, do it? Just do it? Yeah, back to that.

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01:32:51,360 --> 01:32:52,000
Speaker 5: We'll get back to that.

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01:32:52,080 --> 01:32:56,720
Speaker 7: Because we share, we can do it on social.

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01:32:56,479 --> 01:33:01,680
Speaker 2: After what she said, that's my calldor order call order,

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01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:02,639
Speaker 2: get us some champagne.

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01:33:02,880 --> 01:33:04,640
Speaker 7: We'll eat right now.

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Speaker 6: You're on the course.

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01:33:05,360 --> 01:33:06,479
Speaker 7: So this is your camera right here?

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01:33:06,560 --> 01:33:10,200
Speaker 2: Which one from there? So there was that one? Okay,

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01:33:10,320 --> 01:33:13,040
Speaker 2: well how about this? None of the cameras right there.

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01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:16,960
Speaker 2: Y'all matter, Keep listening, keep subscribing. We do have new

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Speaker 2: family joining us. I want y'all stick with us. It's

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01:33:19,840 --> 01:33:23,479
Speaker 2: a growing experience for us, yes, but it's also one

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Speaker 2: for you all, our viewers, our family, our peaks. We

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01:33:26,240 --> 01:33:28,800
Speaker 2: were out to dinner last night and ran into a

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Speaker 2: lot of folks who listen, subscribe and take a lot

1890
01:33:32,520 --> 01:33:35,560
Speaker 2: of information and guidance from the show. And if it

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01:33:35,680 --> 01:33:38,479
Speaker 2: is a gift, and I believe it is, share it

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01:33:38,560 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 2: with people like subscribe, share comments, and bring some other

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Speaker 2: folks into the fold. Welcome home.

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Speaker 1: There are three hundred and ninety days until midterm elections,

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01:33:50,640 --> 01:33:52,840
Speaker 1: and Bakari, we always told out the show with what

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01:33:53,000 --> 01:33:55,719
Speaker 1: Andrew just said, elections are going to happen.

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Speaker 6: Welcome home, y'all, Oh, welcome home.

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Speaker 5: I didn't. I didn't. Let's do it one more time

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Speaker 5: because I was confused.

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Speaker 6: I agree what two three?

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Speaker 5: Welcome home, y'all.

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Speaker 3: podcast based that's a for greatness sixty minutes if so,

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Speaker 3: combo politics in a way that you could taste.

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Speaker 2: It, then digest it.

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Speaker 3: Politics touches you even if you don't touch it. So

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Speaker 3: get invested across the t's and doctor I's kill them

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