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Speaker 2: David Stearns, I'm shocked, honestly that Jonah Tong got called up,

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Speaker 2: although last episode I said he's being called up and

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Speaker 1: He's making his.

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Speaker 2: Debut on Friday. According to Carlos Mendoza, this is real,

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Speaker 2: this is legit. And as the pre eminent Jonah Toong

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Speaker 2: podcast for a very very long time, shout out everybody

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Speaker 2: who put him on our radar a couple of years

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Speaker 2: ago when we started doing prospect reports, Jonah Toong's here, James,

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Speaker 1: I honestly can't believe this. The fact that Mendoza's in

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Speaker 1: a live press conference right now being like, Yeah, this

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Speaker 1: guy's going to pitch on Friday should show everyone the

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Speaker 1: just so funny that David Stern's just waited until these

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Speaker 1: be remarkably excited about Jonah Tong. Jonah Tongue might be

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Speaker 1: the best pitching prospect in baseball. I don't think that's

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Speaker 1: a crazy thing to say among pitchers that haven't debuted

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Speaker 1: last two years, he's got forty to fifty more strikeouts

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Speaker 1: and every other pitcher in the minor leagues he's got

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Speaker 2: It's a real shame that we're not going to be

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Speaker 2: I'll be celebrating my mom's birthday and I think you've

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Speaker 1: It's been a good ten years, I think pretty much. No,

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Speaker 1: just because of how ridiculous he is. And it started,

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Speaker 1: I think with last year when he was still twenty

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Speaker 1: And he just kept doing that and doing that. This

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Speaker 1: how much they get stopped when they get to those

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Speaker 1: second weirdly with Brooklyn, which was like the easiest stop

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Speaker 1: it's it has been a NonStop just run of dominance

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Speaker 1: for Jonaan Tong through the Mets minor leagues and now

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Speaker 2: I wonder if the wind had anything to do with

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Speaker 2: his little like struggle in Brooklyn. We know that the

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Speaker 2: like you said, every single level has been clear dominant.

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Speaker 2: It's not even close to like anyone else at the

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Speaker 1: And apart from like the stats that were telling you, Gus,

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Speaker 2: I'm really excited to be at the ballpark tonight because

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Speaker 2: last night the Mets just beat the piss out of

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it feels like that. And also it's a spot

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Speaker 1: Totally, and it probably will just be like basically optioning

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Speaker 1: most recent Major League Baseball draft, he would have been

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Speaker 2: excited for Jonah than I cannot wait to see what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's like twenty four or twenty five games

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Speaker 1: I just love that the Mets are doing this. I'm

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Speaker 1: Enjoy that.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it all right.

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Speaker 2: You gave him the pitching breakdown today, you give them

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Speaker 1: To keep it moving.

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Speaker 2: Take a series from the Phillies here with a win

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Speaker 2: on Tuesday night, Betty. If you guys are at the ballpark,

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Speaker 2: me and James will be there, so come say what's up?

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Speaker 2: I'm Draftnick Mark with a C. Thank you guys for listening,

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Speaker 2: Thanks for watching. Jonah tong is here.

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Speaker 1: Let's go Mets, peace out peace outs, Go Mets, and

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