WEBVTT - Thinking Sideways: Georgia Guidestones

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking Sideways. I don't you never know stories of things

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<v Speaker 1>we simply don't know the answer too. Hey, everybody, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to the Thinking Sideways the podcast. I'm Devin, joined as

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<v Speaker 1>always by Joe and Steve. I like that we have

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<v Speaker 1>to say the end. Yes, Yes, we're gonna do a

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<v Speaker 1>big old mystery. It's just a big old mystery. It's

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<v Speaker 1>very sistinct. This is very sistinct. We're gonna talk about

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<v Speaker 1>the Georgia Guidestones today, which many of you may have

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<v Speaker 1>heard of it. You've probably you've heard of them. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they're a granite monolithic monument. They it, it's it. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it's an it because it's several, but they're assembled

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<v Speaker 1>into an it. It's like they don't say it's a

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<v Speaker 1>single stonehenge, it's it's stonehenge. Well I don't know, now,

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<v Speaker 1>I just stonehenge, but that it. But it's guide stones.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Yeah, there's a there's a bunch of them,

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<v Speaker 1>not just one. So this the granite monument is in

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<v Speaker 1>um Elbert County in Georgia, in the United States of America.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll start with a description of what it

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<v Speaker 1>looks like. It's probably a good place to start, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>pictures on the website absolutely, and nifty drawing too. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we're definitely gonna put that drawing up because I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's the best way, most descriptive way. It'll help you

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<v Speaker 1>understand some of these bizarre things that we're going to describe. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 1>Um So, as Steve was kind of alluding to often,

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<v Speaker 1>this is called the American Stonehenge. Yeah. It's about nineteen

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<v Speaker 1>feet and three inches tall, which for our non American

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<v Speaker 1>listeners is five point eight seven ms. Okay, that's that's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of right. I believe that conversion. I'm really good

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<v Speaker 1>at conversions, so it's obviously right. And one of our

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<v Speaker 1>listeners go out to the web. Yeah, it's six granite

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<v Speaker 1>slabs that weigh two hundred and thirty seven thousand, seven

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<v Speaker 1>hundred and forty six pounds collectively, not each, Yeah, which

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<v Speaker 1>is huge, bigger somehow it's very small, but it weighs

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of a lot. Is that what was that

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<v Speaker 1>movie where they had the miniature Stonehenge? Are you talking

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<v Speaker 1>about Spinal Tap? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's what this makes

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<v Speaker 1>me think of. Man, I don't you don't remember that

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<v Speaker 1>in Spinal Tap? When we're going to have a huge

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<v Speaker 1>stonehand on stage and then they lower it. It's about

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<v Speaker 1>eight inches tall and they have little people dancing around

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<v Speaker 1>and they're all upset. It was in danger of being

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<v Speaker 1>crushed by little people there. They drew it all up.

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<v Speaker 1>But instead of that, they put the dimensions in inches

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<v Speaker 1>instead the feet. An easy mistake to make. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is not the one from Spinal Town. No, No, it's huge,

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<v Speaker 1>looks a lot different. It does look different. It's only stonehenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Ask in that it is monolithic stone and it's made

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<v Speaker 1>of it's made of big as rocks, yeah, really big rocks. However,

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<v Speaker 1>this one was made in the century, sorry, really late seventies.

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<v Speaker 1>It was revealed in just to dispel any kind of

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<v Speaker 1>weird We know how it was built, don't worry. There

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<v Speaker 1>are five slabs that are astrolan astronomically aligned. Well there's five,

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<v Speaker 1>there's four. It's the skinny one in the center that's

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<v Speaker 1>not really aligned with anything. Well, it's line. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>line with the North Star. Yeah, so part of I

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<v Speaker 1>guess you could say that's astronomically yeah. And then there's

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<v Speaker 1>a capstone. So there are five that are the full

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen ft tall. There's a yeah, and then there's a

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<v Speaker 1>smaller cap stone on the top, which is still you know,

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<v Speaker 1>big enough to crush your car. Shy normous. Yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a stone tablet that was set in the ground kind

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<v Speaker 1>of west of the structure that provides notes and history

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<v Speaker 1>and a bit about the purpose of the guide stones.

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<v Speaker 1>So on the four stones that Joe was arguing with

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<v Speaker 1>me about, just the four bigger that are aligned, I

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<v Speaker 1>believe they're aligned north, south, east, west, the northeast, southeast,

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<v Speaker 1>but they're all you know, aligned there in an ex battern.

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<v Speaker 1>And on each side of those is an inscription. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the same inscription on every side, but it's in eight

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<v Speaker 1>different languages. Yes, English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindu, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese,

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<v Speaker 1>and Russian, which we'll talk about you know, the languages

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit later. Some of them are really widely

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<v Speaker 1>spoken languages, but some of them aren't. Not a bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a mystery. And it's ten kind of new World commandments,

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<v Speaker 1>if you will, carved into these New Age. Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>refer to them as New World commandments, new World Order commandments,

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<v Speaker 1>new World commandments. So we'll read them one at a time.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll just kind of go around in a circle.

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<v Speaker 1>And one. Maintain humanity under five hundred million in perpetual

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<v Speaker 1>balance with nature to guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity.

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<v Speaker 1>Three Unite humanity with a living new language for rural passion, faith, tradition,

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<v Speaker 1>and all things with tempered reason. Protect people in nations

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<v Speaker 1>with fair laws and just courts. Six. Let all nations

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<v Speaker 1>rule internally, resolving external disputes in a world court. Seven

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<v Speaker 1>avoid petty laws and useless officials. I like that. One. Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>balance personal rights with social duties. Nine Price truth, beauty, love, seeking,

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<v Speaker 1>harmony with the infinite. Ten, be not a cancer on

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<v Speaker 1>the earth. Leave room for nature. Leave room for nature.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's the ten commandments. And then on the cap stone.

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<v Speaker 1>Can we repeat that in the other languages? No, I

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<v Speaker 1>mean if you can, if you speak all those languages,

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<v Speaker 1>you totally can. Y. Yeah, So there's a shorter message

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<v Speaker 1>on the cap stone. It's on the four different sides

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<v Speaker 1>of the cap stone, you know, because the cap stone

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<v Speaker 1>is leading flat, right, So it's on the small edges

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<v Speaker 1>your like, what about a foot and a half thick. Yeah. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's on the like the raw edges, not the

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<v Speaker 1>top on the top. It's uh inscribed in four ancient

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<v Speaker 1>languages Babylonian, Classical, Greek, Sanskrit, and Egyptian hieroglyphs, and it

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<v Speaker 1>says the Georgia Guystones Center Cluster, erected to March twenty two,

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen eighty UM. And then below that there's a there's

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<v Speaker 1>an outline of a square inside which is written, let

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<v Speaker 1>these be guide stones to an age of reason. So

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<v Speaker 1>that's guess. I don't know, you can keep describing, and

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<v Speaker 1>I do want to just as an aside, some of

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<v Speaker 1>these guides guidelines have been a little controversial. Yeah, and

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<v Speaker 1>we're definitely going to talk about Yeah, probably shouldn't put

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<v Speaker 1>the one. Yeah, there's a lot more. There's, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's more stuff to talk about with the astronomical astronomical features.

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<v Speaker 1>Astronomical features, there's three main ones and they are laid

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<v Speaker 1>out on this stone that's placed a little bit away.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the granite stone that's placed kind of to the

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<v Speaker 1>west of the stone hinge embedded in the ground slab

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<v Speaker 1>in the big old slab in the ground. Yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>it outlines the astronomical features and a little bit more information.

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<v Speaker 1>The first one is a channel through the stone that

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<v Speaker 1>indicates the celestial pole, and that's the one that's in

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of like goes up diagonally through the center pole,

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<v Speaker 1>the center stone, center stone. Sorry, and obviously it points

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<v Speaker 1>true north to the to the North Star. Yeah. The

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<v Speaker 1>second is a horizontal slot that indicates the annual travel

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<v Speaker 1>of the Sun. So there's kind of like a mailbox. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it looks a little bit like a mail slot kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in the center, kind of at eye level, but

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<v Speaker 1>it tapers down on together side to a hole. And

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<v Speaker 1>even it's it's I pointed towards the Sun on the equinox, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>on the vernal and yeah. And the third is the

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<v Speaker 1>Sun being through capstone that marks noontime throughout the year.

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<v Speaker 1>So there's a little hole through the caps own that

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<v Speaker 1>mark's noon at any given time of the year. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>because the sound is going to be in a little

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<v Speaker 1>different position in the sky. And I didn't ever see

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm presuming I couldn't see. I didn't notice this

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<v Speaker 1>in any of the images that I was looking at

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<v Speaker 1>where that's at. Is it that kind of because when

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<v Speaker 1>you do the travel of the Sun through the year,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's almost the infinity loop. So is that etched

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<v Speaker 1>in the stone, because I never saw that, and I

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't sure I presumed it was there. I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I look for pictures of that too, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and they just don't exist. Yeah, there's there's all kinds

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<v Speaker 1>of web pages devoted this stuff. There's a weird like

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<v Speaker 1>smooth area. The edges of the rocks are kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like stylistically shorn, right, And that's what I'd seen, that

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<v Speaker 1>smooth area, which is what made me presume that there

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<v Speaker 1>had to be some kind of inscription on that piece

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<v Speaker 1>of stone. But nobody has taken a picture of that,

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<v Speaker 1>And and we've seen a bunch of illustrations that are

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<v Speaker 1>very elaborate and well done, but they didn't ever call

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<v Speaker 1>that out. So maybe it's not there if they're not

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<v Speaker 1>calling it up. But it seems weird that you would

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<v Speaker 1>call that out specifically with a hole in the stone,

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<v Speaker 1>and then not have any way for somebody to reference.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you know what I'm saying? I guess, But it

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<v Speaker 1>also I think you know, these these these stones are

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<v Speaker 1>meant to stand for thousands and thousands of years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that it's generally accepted. I'm a little bit jumping ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>but generally accepted that they're meant to guide repopulation, like

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<v Speaker 1>after an apocalyptic event. So I guess it may be

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<v Speaker 1>that it's allowing for shifts, shifts, celestial shifts. Yeah, but

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know. No, that's why. That's why I was asking.

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<v Speaker 1>Looking at me like I'm the biggest idiot in the

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<v Speaker 1>whole world. Okay, that's not what that looked me. I

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<v Speaker 1>was just I was just sticking in on the post

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<v Speaker 1>apocalyptic world. You know these guys, so your counties over, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what day of the week it is, what

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<v Speaker 1>the date is? No, it's good on our horses and

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<v Speaker 1>ride over the So it was this lost in thought. Yeah, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>So going back to what's inscribed on this stone, it

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<v Speaker 1>says author R. C. Christian, a pseudonym, pseudonym. Yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty impressive. If I had to chisel all those

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<v Speaker 1>things out, i'd be dropping whole words. And yeah, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of spots. Right. I put the word in

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<v Speaker 1>above and carve a little d um and I want

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<v Speaker 1>to make it very clear that that is inscribed. It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It makes sure on the stone it says R. C. Christian,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pseudonym. Ye, just make that very clear because

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<v Speaker 1>when I, you know, the first couple of times I

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<v Speaker 1>read through the stuff, I was like, yes, I know

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<v Speaker 1>it's a pseudonym. Stop it. You don't have to like

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<v Speaker 1>explain to me with this reading I'm doing. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 1>it's actually you look at pictures and it's actually inscribed there.

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<v Speaker 1>So below that it says sponsors a small group of

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<v Speaker 1>Americans who seek the Age of Reason. And then below

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<v Speaker 1>that it says time capsule. Sorry, time capsule place placed

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<v Speaker 1>six ft below this spot on blank to be opened

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<v Speaker 1>on blank. There was a little aside. Treasure hunters are

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<v Speaker 1>generally like really, they're like, oh man, there's a time

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<v Speaker 1>capsule under there, and nobody knows what's in it. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't even really know when it was put down there

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<v Speaker 1>when it's supposed to be open. Well, it turns out

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<v Speaker 1>that actually a times capsule that was never put under there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was supposed to be you know, like local fourth

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<v Speaker 1>graders or something, right, make this time capsule. But that,

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<v Speaker 1>as far as anybody knows, that never actually happened. It

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<v Speaker 1>was supposed to happen. After the big reveal, they were gonna,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, dig down. So treasure hunters have gone and

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<v Speaker 1>tried to find this time capsule that's under there, the

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<v Speaker 1>crap out of it and the ground surrounding it. It

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<v Speaker 1>was originally totally in set with the ground, and now

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<v Speaker 1>it's like halfway out. It's kind of just sitting on

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<v Speaker 1>top of the ground now because people are digging away

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<v Speaker 1>around it. So theoutic you know, it's a time capsule.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not gonna be filled with gold watches and cruder rands. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you know that people. It's not so

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<v Speaker 1>much for the treasure. It's that I think people think

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<v Speaker 1>that there would be answers in there, like an explanation

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<v Speaker 1>of this whole situation or something. And here's here's the

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<v Speaker 1>thing that I thought. As soon as I came across

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<v Speaker 1>that information about people trying to dig it up, I thought,

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<v Speaker 1>you know what the simplest way to stop that would

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<v Speaker 1>be is for the county that owns this monument to

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<v Speaker 1>just go get somebody with a ground radar and run

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<v Speaker 1>it across that slab of stone and then make that

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<v Speaker 1>public available to say, hey, look there's nothing under here,

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<v Speaker 1>stop digging it up. Yeah. So here's what I want

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<v Speaker 1>to say about that and the guide stones in general,

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<v Speaker 1>is that there is a bevy of conspiracy theories the thing,

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<v Speaker 1>and I'm not sure that the kind of people who

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<v Speaker 1>are going out there looking for this stuff wouldn't necessarily

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<v Speaker 1>be convinced by that. But I think that a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of people would think that it was just doctored to

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<v Speaker 1>get us to not look at it anymore. Probably a

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<v Speaker 1>good point. Probably the best thing to do is to

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<v Speaker 1>actually go out there with some heavy equipment and pull

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<v Speaker 1>the stone and dig down Underneathan about ten feet so,

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<v Speaker 1>and make sure there's lots and lots of the public

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<v Speaker 1>there to witness us. You know, there's no time capsule,

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<v Speaker 1>and you fill it back in, put the rock back,

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<v Speaker 1>or actually put a time capsule under there. Yeah, there

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<v Speaker 1>you go. You know, maybe here you go, guys, look

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<v Speaker 1>fourth graders, put it in there forever, down there, forever

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<v Speaker 1>until it becomes obsolete, nestier it would be. It would

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<v Speaker 1>be kind of hard to retrieve that time capsule of granted,

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<v Speaker 1>yeah would be. So I don't know what the plan.

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<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to like open up a little box

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<v Speaker 1>and like Tom Castle box and have a little a

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<v Speaker 1>little dancing singing frog jump out from the Looney Tunes. Yeah,

0:14:58.280 --> 0:15:02.760
<v Speaker 1>that little frog. Yeah, that guy. So I guess we'll

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<v Speaker 1>move on to some kind of theory things because there's

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<v Speaker 1>two aspects to this. We'll talk a little bit about

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<v Speaker 1>the problems some people have with these stones, some people

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<v Speaker 1>to like vandalize, seriously vandalize the guide stones, and then

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<v Speaker 1>we'll talk about the theory surrounding who created it, because

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's the real mystery here is who. Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was I was gonna say, I know, there's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of stuff about who did it, and that

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<v Speaker 1>I was hoping we're going to get into that because

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<v Speaker 1>that's pretty interesting stuff and that's the only real mystery here. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I agree with that, who that guy was and who

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<v Speaker 1>he represented. Yeah, So obviously the biggest problem that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people have with this is with that first

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<v Speaker 1>commandment that keep the human population under million. That's going

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<v Speaker 1>to be kind of hard to attain. Yeah, it actually,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that works out to h if you were

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<v Speaker 1>going to do it by killing people, it works out

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<v Speaker 1>to killing twelve of every thirteen person people the current

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<v Speaker 1>population of the earth. So yeah, I guess to put

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<v Speaker 1>it another way, it means that nobody would exist on

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<v Speaker 1>this earth except for the population of India something we're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna die. No. So this is the thing, right, is

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of people think that this means we

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<v Speaker 1>need to call down humanity is what this is calling.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've actually seen that in in charts and pie

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<v Speaker 1>charts of people made that were illustrated based out there,

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<v Speaker 1>like the call ratio. Yeah, and I think that's a

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<v Speaker 1>really horrible misunderstanding of what the guide stones are meant

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<v Speaker 1>to be. For um, the wonderful magazine Wired did an

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<v Speaker 1>article on this, among you know, pretty much everybody has

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<v Speaker 1>done an article on this, but you know, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that they agree with me that and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>most people kind of do that these guide stones are

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<v Speaker 1>meant to their meant to last a really long time,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're meant to help guide like a repopulation effort

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<v Speaker 1>or rebuilding of building of civilization after a huge catastrophe,

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<v Speaker 1>like an apocalypse situation of some sort um, so that

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's that you would rebuild your society and think, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>well we're rebuilding, so we're going to try and do

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<v Speaker 1>it right this time, at least according to this quote

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<v Speaker 1>New World Order, So I the day's survivors crawling out

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<v Speaker 1>from under the robo in Central Europe, for example, we

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<v Speaker 1>need to send one pilgrim to Georgia. Yeah, I guess.

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<v Speaker 1>Some people point to there's a guide book that goes

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<v Speaker 1>along with the Georgia Guidestone, Georgia Guidebook, the Georgia Guidestone Guidebook.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not a real it's not that's not a fake thing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a real thing. And I don't believe it was

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<v Speaker 1>actually written by the people who drew up the specs

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<v Speaker 1>and page for the stones. I thought I thought it

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<v Speaker 1>was written by the company, right. Unclear on that. I

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<v Speaker 1>got the feeling that it was written by whoever commissioned Christian. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>commission did because of the stuff that's in it falls

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<v Speaker 1>very much in line with the writings that are on

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<v Speaker 1>the stone. Could be so it says, there's a little

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<v Speaker 1>quote from here says it's difficult to seed wisdom inclosed

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<v Speaker 1>human minds. Cultural inertias are not easily overcome. Unfolding world

0:18:28.760 --> 0:18:31.399
<v Speaker 1>events and the sad record of our race dramatized the

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<v Speaker 1>shortcomings of traditional agencies and government human affairs. The approaching

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<v Speaker 1>crisis may make mankind willing to accept a system of

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<v Speaker 1>world law, which will stress the responsibility of individual nations

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<v Speaker 1>in regarding in regulating internal affairs which will assist them

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<v Speaker 1>in peaceful management of international frictions. It's a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of a long quote there, sorry, but people kind of

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<v Speaker 1>point to that in in trying to prove that they

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<v Speaker 1>think that it should would be culling not a rebuilding.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's I still think it's bunk. I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>I disagree. I think it's definitely not. Another one of

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<v Speaker 1>the things that some people kind of have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with is the second one, which is the reproduced wisely

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<v Speaker 1>improving diversity and fitness. And again I think that refers

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<v Speaker 1>to repopulation, but some people kind of look at it

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<v Speaker 1>as a pro eugenics message kind of yeah, and kind

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<v Speaker 1>of regulating family units, you know, matching people up and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of you know, my favorite, my favorite book is

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<v Speaker 1>Enders Game, and in that a lot of times the

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<v Speaker 1>parents are matched up based on genetic not diversity so much,

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<v Speaker 1>but like what they can bring to the table. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>both the parents are really really smart, you know, blow

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<v Speaker 1>blah blah. They're going to be paired together. Stupider people

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<v Speaker 1>are going to be paired together. Not not in the

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<v Speaker 1>way that this would ask for, right that you want diversity,

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<v Speaker 1>so you would just kind of try and bread the

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<v Speaker 1>healthiest specimens possible. In Enter's game, of course, it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>trying to breed the smartest people possible. But that's something

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<v Speaker 1>totally different. But people look at that and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's the sort of thing that's going on,

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<v Speaker 1>or that it's kind of going towards a like a

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<v Speaker 1>China like childcap thing. Um well, let's let's face it.

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<v Speaker 1>It's kind of vague. So the whole thing is kind

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<v Speaker 1>of a reproduced wisely, could mean don't have too many kids.

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<v Speaker 1>It could mean, you know, don't have sex with stupid people,

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<v Speaker 1>or it could be it could be a call for

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<v Speaker 1>governments to regulate who gets to have sex with who

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<v Speaker 1>and have Also, I'm gonna be really offensive here and

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<v Speaker 1>say it's in Georgia, so maybe it's like, don't sleep

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<v Speaker 1>with your cousin because you never know. I mean, it

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<v Speaker 1>could be that to maintain genetic diversity, which means don't

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<v Speaker 1>breed in the same gene pool, which anybody who has

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<v Speaker 1>grown up into in a rural community or a small town,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody's related and that's an issue, and it's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm related to him, who's related her, who's related to him,

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<v Speaker 1>And that's kind of a from a genet standpoint, not

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<v Speaker 1>the best way to do it. Well, it's like an Iceland.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm sure you guys know about this in Iceland, that

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<v Speaker 1>there's a registry of who's related to who, and you

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<v Speaker 1>can look up online. When you become interested in somebody,

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<v Speaker 1>you look up online if you're related to that person

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<v Speaker 1>or not. Because everybody's kind of didn't know that. You

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<v Speaker 1>just nick you want to find out how closely related you. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you you go to find out and apparently, like

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<v Speaker 1>the young people are talking a lot about this because

0:21:38.840 --> 0:21:42.120
<v Speaker 1>you you have to like actually be careful if you're

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<v Speaker 1>going to accidentally breed with somebody that you didn't know

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<v Speaker 1>that you were like only one or two steps removed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh jeez, you're welcome everyone the day Iceland because hey,

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<v Speaker 1>anybody can breed with me. Yeah. So, anyways, nobody knows

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<v Speaker 1>what that means. So what about three? What about three?

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<v Speaker 1>Living new language? What a great idea like esperanto whatever?

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<v Speaker 1>So well, are you done talking about number two? Do

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<v Speaker 1>you want to? Yeah, that's like a uniting humanity with

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<v Speaker 1>the new language. And which one is that? Which number three. No,

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<v Speaker 1>what's the language you just referred to? Which one is that? Esperanto? Esperanto? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you've never heard of that. I may have. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know exactly when there was this call for a single

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<v Speaker 1>common language, and I forget what it's when it started,

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<v Speaker 1>like in the sixties or whatever. It sounds about right, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and so somebody, somebody invented this language called Esperanto and

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<v Speaker 1>they tried to push it. It It never caught on. It

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<v Speaker 1>was spoken, Yeah, I was spoken and written, okay, because

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<v Speaker 1>there was that one language that some guy tried to do.

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<v Speaker 1>It was mostly like symbols for writing. That actually got

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<v Speaker 1>really popular with um mentally disabled and deaf kids. There's

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<v Speaker 1>any or radio about it. No, we were written language.

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<v Speaker 1>Um that one doesn't ring a belt was symbolic and

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<v Speaker 1>he like totally thought it was going to take off.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it kind of hard to hard to make

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<v Speaker 1>any language catch on. Small small trivia effect about Esperanto.

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<v Speaker 1>There was a movie actually that was made that was

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<v Speaker 1>done entirely in Esperanto. Oh no, if I recall the

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<v Speaker 1>name of the movie. The name of the movie was

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<v Speaker 1>The Incubus at a starred I guess who are you

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<v Speaker 1>Jennifer brad Pitt, William Shatner. Of course, maybe that's why

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<v Speaker 1>it didn't take off. He's memorizing his lines and then

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<v Speaker 1>he's speaking them as he would in English, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the refrigerator. Yeah, so it's probably hard

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<v Speaker 1>to be a good actor in your own language, much

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<v Speaker 1>less one that you don't even know. Yeah, yeah, so

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<v Speaker 1>I guess, But at that time, I think he was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty hard up for work. Well, probably are any of

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<v Speaker 1>the other commandments stick out to you that you think

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<v Speaker 1>you want to talk about a little lot of stick

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<v Speaker 1>out to me is kind of just like a little vague.

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<v Speaker 1>They're kind of vague and kind of for me, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it's hard to it's hard to argue with something like rule, passion, faith,

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<v Speaker 1>tradition and all things. And I'll be honest, I'll probably

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<v Speaker 1>wait to the end. I kind of have an overarching

0:24:26.359 --> 0:24:30.080
<v Speaker 1>theory of what drives them all, but it's not specific

0:24:30.160 --> 0:24:32.520
<v Speaker 1>to one. It's taking them as a group rather than

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<v Speaker 1>an individual. Interesting, Okay, we'll definitely talk about that. Yeah,

0:24:35.800 --> 0:24:39.240
<v Speaker 1>it's essentially though, they're just sort of like vague, little

0:24:39.359 --> 0:24:42.920
<v Speaker 1>vague little things that you know, don't really mean a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of themselves. You can't really run a country or

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<v Speaker 1>world based on these rules. So there has been some vandalism.

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<v Speaker 1>There wasn't any vandalism until really like which, yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>went like thirty years without any vandalism, and then suddenly

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<v Speaker 1>there's just been this streak of vandalism. Um. Somebody through

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<v Speaker 1>polyurethane on the stones and you can see like there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing you can do to gain the stone. And then

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<v Speaker 1>lots of spray paint um and like a little like

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<v Speaker 1>with sharpie, you know, people writing like H plus L

0:25:22.600 --> 0:25:26.120
<v Speaker 1>equals love. You know, it's like dumb little things, but

0:25:26.280 --> 0:25:28.600
<v Speaker 1>also like some bigger things. The spray paint you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Some of them said it was something along the order

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<v Speaker 1>of f your new world order, yeah, or like Jesus

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<v Speaker 1>will win, like screw you evil, you know, you Satanists

0:25:39.560 --> 0:25:43.480
<v Speaker 1>will never win. Really kind of if I if I'll

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<v Speaker 1>be just completely candid here, this is very off base

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<v Speaker 1>from what I get from what this sets, So I

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<v Speaker 1>agree with that a little weird, yeah, you know, and

0:25:53.600 --> 0:25:56.280
<v Speaker 1>it's like it's not exactly causing a ground swirl of evil.

0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:58.119
<v Speaker 1>It's not like the forces of evil are sort of

0:25:58.160 --> 0:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>swirling around it. There was a coven of witches that

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<v Speaker 1>decided that it was their home away from home and

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<v Speaker 1>would be really pilgrimages. Yeah, but it's not like, you know,

0:26:11.920 --> 0:26:16.160
<v Speaker 1>people aren't really worshiping them. It's not overflowing with people.

0:26:16.240 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, you can watch these YouTube videos of people

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<v Speaker 1>going there and it's like completely abandoned. There's no one

0:26:23.280 --> 0:26:26.040
<v Speaker 1>else's vacant. It's super I mean, you know, it's not

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<v Speaker 1>like there's thousands of people flocking to the site, or

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<v Speaker 1>even hundreds at a time, or even like ten. Yeah. Yeah.

0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:36.479
<v Speaker 1>The only time I've seen it is on Google Maps

0:26:36.520 --> 0:26:38.359
<v Speaker 1>and there was one car parked in the parking area

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<v Speaker 1>and it was probably the people taking the picture. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>but they did. Since the vandalism, they have they've cleaned

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<v Speaker 1>it up a little bit and they've put security cameras

0:26:52.720 --> 0:26:57.280
<v Speaker 1>and you know, posted science that say it's surveilled, and

0:26:57.280 --> 0:26:59.720
<v Speaker 1>that seems to have cut down on it a little bit.

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<v Speaker 1>I just I agree that the vandalism seems to be

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<v Speaker 1>fairly off base. It's not I wouldn't say that it

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<v Speaker 1>really touches on anything that really actually pertains to Yeah,

0:27:13.320 --> 0:27:15.760
<v Speaker 1>I think that I think that the vandalism is based

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<v Speaker 1>on it's based on people's interpretations of writings that are

0:27:22.359 --> 0:27:25.439
<v Speaker 1>trying to interpret what is written on the stone. So

0:27:25.480 --> 0:27:28.880
<v Speaker 1>it's an interpretation of an interpretation of an interpretation. It's

0:27:28.920 --> 0:27:30.639
<v Speaker 1>kind of like that telephone game you used to do

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:32.399
<v Speaker 1>when you were a kid, and I'd whisper something in

0:27:32.440 --> 0:27:34.960
<v Speaker 1>your ear and you'd whisper to the next person. It

0:27:35.240 --> 0:27:38.359
<v Speaker 1>changes every time, and so they take it as something

0:27:38.440 --> 0:27:44.159
<v Speaker 1>completely different because it's just been morphed over these multiple writings,

0:27:44.600 --> 0:27:48.280
<v Speaker 1>So what they're complaining about it doesn't really pertain to

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.240
<v Speaker 1>what's written there. But again that's just that's my perspective

0:27:51.240 --> 0:27:53.280
<v Speaker 1>on it. Again, I still think it's off base. I've

0:27:53.320 --> 0:27:57.040
<v Speaker 1>always thought that the paranoia over the whole new world,

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.920
<v Speaker 1>new world order thing has always been a kind of absurd,

0:28:00.400 --> 0:28:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and and it's out there. I remember, like in It's

0:28:03.040 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>in the late eighties, the first President Bush and this

0:28:05.600 --> 0:28:08.119
<v Speaker 1>is after the follow the followed the Wall and followed

0:28:08.160 --> 0:28:11.080
<v Speaker 1>the Soviet Union. Then he was giving a speech, you know,

0:28:11.119 --> 0:28:14.320
<v Speaker 1>talking about, well, you know, the whole bipolar East West

0:28:14.359 --> 0:28:17.159
<v Speaker 1>world is kind of crumbled, and now I guess we're

0:28:17.200 --> 0:28:19.600
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to have some sort of new world order

0:28:20.080 --> 0:28:22.440
<v Speaker 1>because things are going to be different, and you know that,

0:28:22.800 --> 0:28:25.640
<v Speaker 1>you know, the nutcases, just one one, all crazy over

0:28:25.680 --> 0:28:30.600
<v Speaker 1>that world. Yeah again, it's gonna be one world government.

0:28:30.640 --> 0:28:33.480
<v Speaker 1>You're gonna take take over everything and hurt us in

0:28:33.480 --> 0:28:36.639
<v Speaker 1>the camps and yeah yeah, well so I guess you

0:28:36.680 --> 0:28:39.000
<v Speaker 1>can also kind of look at what's going on in

0:28:39.120 --> 0:28:43.640
<v Speaker 1>this period in America's history. In two thousand and eight,

0:28:44.960 --> 0:28:47.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, obviously Obama was elected for the

0:28:47.680 --> 0:28:50.720
<v Speaker 1>first time, and I think that set some people off

0:28:50.720 --> 0:28:53.480
<v Speaker 1>a little bit. I think, so, I think a little bit.

0:28:54.320 --> 0:28:58.440
<v Speaker 1>You know, you're kind of already outraged and think that

0:28:58.520 --> 0:29:01.600
<v Speaker 1>this like New World Orders is a threat, and you

0:29:01.600 --> 0:29:04.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, think, well, Obama is a terrorist, and like

0:29:04.160 --> 0:29:06.880
<v Speaker 1>he's probably part of this new world organization too, and

0:29:07.720 --> 0:29:10.320
<v Speaker 1>the New World Order paranoids are usually lefties who are

0:29:10.320 --> 0:29:12.600
<v Speaker 1>considered convinced that it's going to be some sort of

0:29:12.680 --> 0:29:16.160
<v Speaker 1>right wing corporate sort of financed Sometimes. I found this

0:29:16.400 --> 0:29:22.040
<v Speaker 1>quote that talks about America's leading billionaires that meet secretly

0:29:22.280 --> 0:29:26.200
<v Speaker 1>to consider how their wealth could be used to slow

0:29:26.480 --> 0:29:29.680
<v Speaker 1>the growth of the world's population. So, and it listed

0:29:29.800 --> 0:29:39.000
<v Speaker 1>philanthropists like Bill Gates, Um and Oprah Winfrey, Yeah, Ted Turner,

0:29:39.680 --> 0:29:43.720
<v Speaker 1>Michael Bloomberg, Warren Buffett. So you know, kind of people

0:29:43.800 --> 0:29:49.719
<v Speaker 1>who are Obama supporters, who are more left wing liberal people.

0:29:50.840 --> 0:29:53.080
<v Speaker 1>So I guess there's there is that theory out there

0:29:53.120 --> 0:29:55.320
<v Speaker 1>that like people who are kind of more left wing

0:29:55.720 --> 0:29:58.600
<v Speaker 1>are also trying to So it's you know, I think

0:29:58.600 --> 0:30:01.880
<v Speaker 1>that it can go both ways. Yeah. They really the

0:30:02.920 --> 0:30:05.440
<v Speaker 1>whole thing about slowing world population is it's slowing out

0:30:05.480 --> 0:30:08.280
<v Speaker 1>its own I mean, these guys are so well informed.

0:30:08.320 --> 0:30:11.320
<v Speaker 1>That's one thing that really need to worry about. Yeah. Yeah,

0:30:11.440 --> 0:30:14.800
<v Speaker 1>that's true. So we've talked about a little bit some

0:30:14.880 --> 0:30:18.600
<v Speaker 1>of the interpretations of some of the more problematic ones.

0:30:19.520 --> 0:30:24.000
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll talk about who commissioned it. We know

0:30:24.440 --> 0:30:29.480
<v Speaker 1>made it. It was the Pyramid Granite Company UM, which

0:30:29.640 --> 0:30:34.800
<v Speaker 1>is headquartered out of the right, like thirty miles away,

0:30:35.160 --> 0:30:39.000
<v Speaker 1>ten miles away. They're in Albert County. Yeah, they're in

0:30:39.040 --> 0:30:43.040
<v Speaker 1>Albert County. So they made it. Everybody they were contracted

0:30:43.080 --> 0:30:45.760
<v Speaker 1>to make they were contracted to make it. It was

0:30:45.800 --> 0:30:48.280
<v Speaker 1>an interesting story too, because I mean they had a

0:30:48.720 --> 0:30:50.720
<v Speaker 1>quarry that they got most of their grantited from, but

0:30:50.760 --> 0:30:54.120
<v Speaker 1>they had never quarried a stone as big as these. Yeah,

0:30:54.240 --> 0:30:58.320
<v Speaker 1>and there's a lot of kind of speculation with like, oh, well,

0:30:59.200 --> 0:31:02.240
<v Speaker 1>Albert County is where the Indians believed the center of

0:31:02.240 --> 0:31:05.760
<v Speaker 1>the universe. Well, you know, the guide stones are placed within,

0:31:05.960 --> 0:31:09.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, five miles of where the Native Americans thought,

0:31:09.520 --> 0:31:11.400
<v Speaker 1>so at the center of the universe was blah blah

0:31:11.400 --> 0:31:16.320
<v Speaker 1>blah Americans. No. And also it's you know, ten miles

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.440
<v Speaker 1>from the quarry. And it cost a lot of money

0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:21.640
<v Speaker 1>to ship that much granite someplace. And so I think

0:31:21.760 --> 0:31:24.960
<v Speaker 1>four places available when this was being made that were

0:31:25.000 --> 0:31:29.120
<v Speaker 1>available for sale. Yeah, this one Christian paid five thousand

0:31:29.160 --> 0:31:32.920
<v Speaker 1>dollars for so it wasn't that much money. And you know,

0:31:32.960 --> 0:31:34.840
<v Speaker 1>it was close enough that it wasn't going to cost

0:31:34.840 --> 0:31:39.560
<v Speaker 1>a fortune to ship these jar large stones anywhere. So

0:31:39.640 --> 0:31:41.400
<v Speaker 1>I think a part of that is a little bit

0:31:41.440 --> 0:31:47.000
<v Speaker 1>of convenience. So just go ahead and yeah, call that

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:52.120
<v Speaker 1>spade a serious spade. So I guess the first theory

0:31:52.160 --> 0:31:55.000
<v Speaker 1>I want to talk about is they were Freemasons. Yeah,

0:31:55.320 --> 0:32:01.400
<v Speaker 1>could be splash rose rosa cree sans is a word

0:32:01.440 --> 0:32:05.960
<v Speaker 1>that I cannot hardly say. Apparently they are kind of

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:09.000
<v Speaker 1>one and the same, but different people refer to them

0:32:09.040 --> 0:32:16.040
<v Speaker 1>as different things. Rosa cruise, yes, is a kind of

0:32:16.040 --> 0:32:20.680
<v Speaker 1>a predecessor to what we call freemasonry today. Apparently, this

0:32:20.880 --> 0:32:25.479
<v Speaker 1>theory posits that r C is short for rose and cross,

0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:32.960
<v Speaker 1>which was the symbology attached to rosa, thank you, so

0:32:33.040 --> 0:32:38.040
<v Speaker 1>sorry everyone, and then they've since evolved into freemasonry. It's

0:32:38.040 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>a reference to the little phrase that are that's on

0:32:42.960 --> 0:32:48.440
<v Speaker 1>the tablet kind of yeah, on the capstone, and then

0:32:48.560 --> 0:32:51.680
<v Speaker 1>it's written on the tablet as well that says, let

0:32:51.720 --> 0:32:55.960
<v Speaker 1>these be guidestones to an age of reason, which echoes

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 1>this book and kind of just the thinking in general

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:08.200
<v Speaker 1>of Thomas pain very yeah, eighteenth century freemason. Apparently he

0:33:08.320 --> 0:33:10.160
<v Speaker 1>was actually a freemason. We have proof that he was

0:33:10.200 --> 0:33:12.440
<v Speaker 1>a freemason. Didn't you totally read his book? Right? No?

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.800
<v Speaker 1>I didn't. I have to be honest with you. I

0:33:14.800 --> 0:33:18.400
<v Speaker 1>didn't because first of all, why and second of all,

0:33:18.960 --> 0:33:22.280
<v Speaker 1>I didn't chase the freemasonry thing very far down the

0:33:22.360 --> 0:33:25.800
<v Speaker 1>rabbit hole because it just is a giant rabbit hole.

0:33:26.080 --> 0:33:30.719
<v Speaker 1>That's kind of a speculative thing, as is ROSA. Yes,

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:36.640
<v Speaker 1>I guess the thought is the eight languages. This also

0:33:36.720 --> 0:33:39.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of wraps into this theory the eight languages that

0:33:39.480 --> 0:33:42.480
<v Speaker 1>are used on the faces of the guide stones for

0:33:42.520 --> 0:33:46.600
<v Speaker 1>the twelve As we kind of said, some of them

0:33:46.640 --> 0:33:52.800
<v Speaker 1>are very popular languages. However, a lot of Hebrew and

0:33:52.840 --> 0:33:56.920
<v Speaker 1>Swahaly specifically aren't even in the top fifty languages spoken

0:33:56.960 --> 0:34:01.680
<v Speaker 1>in the world, so people kind of wonder why those

0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:07.560
<v Speaker 1>are there instead of things like Cantonese, French, German, Vienomese, Italian. Apparently,

0:34:08.520 --> 0:34:13.000
<v Speaker 1>the inclusion of Hebrew suggests conspiracy theory. To conspiracy theorists

0:34:13.040 --> 0:34:17.840
<v Speaker 1>that the Zionist New World Orders response, it's always, you know,

0:34:18.000 --> 0:34:21.000
<v Speaker 1>comes some kind of Zionist organizations. Again, these all kind

0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:24.359
<v Speaker 1>of like overlap with each other, this one and rose

0:34:24.400 --> 0:34:29.719
<v Speaker 1>a Crustianism. Yeah, I'm getting it, and then the New

0:34:29.760 --> 0:34:32.560
<v Speaker 1>World Order, they all kind of overlapped with each other.

0:34:32.800 --> 0:34:36.120
<v Speaker 1>Well yeah, and I still I find it strange. I mean,

0:34:36.160 --> 0:34:39.000
<v Speaker 1>I understand the writings of Thomas Paine, and I can

0:34:39.040 --> 0:34:42.799
<v Speaker 1>see how all right, well, what he wrote seems to

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:46.680
<v Speaker 1>kind of be echoed in the ten inscriptions from the

0:34:46.719 --> 0:34:51.080
<v Speaker 1>Guide Stones. But then to go into the rose Crucianism

0:34:51.120 --> 0:34:54.760
<v Speaker 1>bid because the rose Crucians were I mean, they weren't

0:34:54.880 --> 0:34:58.520
<v Speaker 1>historically speaking, they were around very long. They were around

0:34:58.640 --> 0:35:03.560
<v Speaker 1>in late Evil Germany, right, and they put out pamphlets

0:35:03.680 --> 0:35:08.720
<v Speaker 1>and they claimed to understand the esoteric truths about nature,

0:35:08.800 --> 0:35:11.560
<v Speaker 1>the universe, and the spiritual realms that have been concealed

0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:17.560
<v Speaker 1>from ordinary people. And then they disappeared. Yeah okay, well

0:35:17.640 --> 0:35:20.759
<v Speaker 1>according to the conspiracy theories, because they went underground, Pat,

0:35:22.200 --> 0:35:24.000
<v Speaker 1>how do you how do you know the New World

0:35:24.120 --> 0:35:30.720
<v Speaker 1>Order clan didn't kill them? Yeah? Man, yeah, okay, bigger

0:35:30.719 --> 0:35:34.319
<v Speaker 1>than you think. Man. The only thing I'll add to

0:35:34.440 --> 0:35:40.920
<v Speaker 1>the Rosa Crucianism theory is that apparently, uh, the fourteenth

0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:48.839
<v Speaker 1>century Fround founder of Rosicruciansmusicrucianism, was a man first identified

0:35:48.920 --> 0:35:54.520
<v Speaker 1>as front Hair CRC and later became Christian Rosenkrunz. And

0:35:54.560 --> 0:35:56.520
<v Speaker 1>they think that r C. Christian is a nod to

0:35:56.560 --> 0:36:00.919
<v Speaker 1>that somehow. I think it's a kind of bunk. But yeah,

0:36:00.920 --> 0:36:05.319
<v Speaker 1>it's it's a weak tie. Yeah I found this, So

0:36:05.400 --> 0:36:09.920
<v Speaker 1>let's just say that's it. Yeah Alrightmas. Freemason's next is

0:36:10.000 --> 0:36:13.600
<v Speaker 1>the New World Order? Well, I was Freemasons and Rosencrancianism

0:36:13.760 --> 0:36:17.239
<v Speaker 1>kind of rosen crucian Is. I just keep wanting to

0:36:17.239 --> 0:36:21.719
<v Speaker 1>say Rosencrants. That's so you know that that's that whole

0:36:21.760 --> 0:36:25.680
<v Speaker 1>theater background. So those are kind of mushed into one

0:36:26.000 --> 0:36:29.240
<v Speaker 1>it's hard to kind of you can't. You can't unmix

0:36:29.320 --> 0:36:33.799
<v Speaker 1>those two, can't. New World Order. Mark Dice is an

0:36:33.880 --> 0:36:37.480
<v Speaker 1>author of a book called The Resistance Manifesto in two

0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:43.400
<v Speaker 1>thousand five under the pseudonym John Connor. No, not that

0:36:43.520 --> 0:36:51.160
<v Speaker 1>John Connor, terminator, killing Connor, Yeah, defeating Connor. Yeahous, keep going,

0:36:51.320 --> 0:36:56.920
<v Speaker 1>keep going, Okay. He uh demanded that the guidestones be

0:36:57.200 --> 0:37:00.920
<v Speaker 1>quote smashed into a million pieces. He thinks that the

0:37:01.000 --> 0:37:07.960
<v Speaker 1>monument has a deep Satanic origin. Maybe kind of the

0:37:07.960 --> 0:37:12.439
<v Speaker 1>impetus for this, the the graffiti that was happening. Yeah,

0:37:12.440 --> 0:37:14.640
<v Speaker 1>because his stuff would have come out just a couple

0:37:14.680 --> 0:37:17.720
<v Speaker 1>of years before the graffiti, so it could have started

0:37:17.719 --> 0:37:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to gain traction. Yeah, that makes sense. So according to Dice,

0:37:21.760 --> 0:37:28.640
<v Speaker 1>slash Connor Christian call him please, he's John Connor, please ARSI.

0:37:28.760 --> 0:37:32.080
<v Speaker 1>Christian was probably a high ranking member of a quote

0:37:32.400 --> 0:37:36.239
<v Speaker 1>Luciferian secret society. Is that how you would say that

0:37:36.360 --> 0:37:45.080
<v Speaker 1>lucifer secret society based on Lucifer Okay, at the forefront

0:37:45.120 --> 0:37:48.920
<v Speaker 1>of the New World Order, Yes, quote, the elite are

0:37:48.960 --> 0:37:52.200
<v Speaker 1>planning to develop successful life extension technology in the next

0:37:52.280 --> 0:37:55.960
<v Speaker 1>few decades that will nearly stop the aging process, and

0:37:56.000 --> 0:37:59.320
<v Speaker 1>they fear that with the current population of Earth so high,

0:37:59.360 --> 0:38:02.399
<v Speaker 1>the masses will be using resources that the elite want

0:38:02.440 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>for themselves. Actually, the masses will be using resources that

0:38:06.120 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>the elite will be selling them. So I think at

0:38:09.280 --> 0:38:13.040
<v Speaker 1>least will be just five with that, This goes on

0:38:13.120 --> 0:38:16.400
<v Speaker 1>to get a little crazier quote. The guidestones are the

0:38:16.400 --> 0:38:19.080
<v Speaker 1>New World Orders ten Commandments. They're also away for the

0:38:19.120 --> 0:38:21.400
<v Speaker 1>elite to get a laugh at the expense of unafformed

0:38:21.400 --> 0:38:24.000
<v Speaker 1>masses as their agenda stands clear as day and the

0:38:24.080 --> 0:38:29.120
<v Speaker 1>zombies don't even notice it. Their agenda. Well, I was

0:38:29.120 --> 0:38:32.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna say these elites again, you talked about there was

0:38:33.560 --> 0:38:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Microsoft founder Bill Gates, and I can't remember who the

0:38:37.680 --> 0:38:41.839
<v Speaker 1>other there was. So they're they're saying, these elites are

0:38:41.840 --> 0:38:44.319
<v Speaker 1>going to stop the aging process and they're not going

0:38:44.360 --> 0:38:47.160
<v Speaker 1>to age anymore, so the live forever. So they don't

0:38:47.200 --> 0:38:50.239
<v Speaker 1>want the peons using up all the good stuff that

0:38:50.280 --> 0:38:52.240
<v Speaker 1>they're going to need a thousand years in the future

0:38:53.000 --> 0:38:55.600
<v Speaker 1>to die, and the elite to be the only ones

0:38:55.680 --> 0:38:58.680
<v Speaker 1>that are left, and they'll stop aging and they'll be

0:38:58.719 --> 0:39:02.120
<v Speaker 1>able to create a new Old Order because they'll never die.

0:39:02.480 --> 0:39:04.840
<v Speaker 1>But if they're elite, they're probably gonna want some of

0:39:04.880 --> 0:39:07.960
<v Speaker 1>those lower echelons to I don't know, be farming their food.

0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:12.400
<v Speaker 1>And yeah, I don't know that the conspiracy theorists go

0:39:12.480 --> 0:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>that far. And I think maybe the assumption is robots.

0:39:16.000 --> 0:39:18.799
<v Speaker 1>I mean, John Connor would know about robots, and we

0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:21.839
<v Speaker 1>saw how well that worked. Yeah, well, there's another kind

0:39:21.840 --> 0:39:24.960
<v Speaker 1>of absurd point here. So they're planning to develop successful

0:39:25.040 --> 0:39:30.440
<v Speaker 1>life extension technology. Well, you can't really plan medical breakthroughs

0:39:30.480 --> 0:39:33.799
<v Speaker 1>two decades from now. That's just simply you know it's

0:39:33.840 --> 0:39:35.600
<v Speaker 1>going to happen or not. You really don't have any

0:39:35.600 --> 0:39:37.719
<v Speaker 1>control over. Also, we'll go ahead and point out the

0:39:37.760 --> 0:39:40.960
<v Speaker 1>fact that that would happen next year sometime in the

0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:44.560
<v Speaker 1>next decade. Is I've actually been making a lot of

0:39:44.600 --> 0:39:48.160
<v Speaker 1>advances and aging research. No, nothing to slow it down yet.

0:39:48.239 --> 0:39:53.560
<v Speaker 1>But sing young mice to old mice, Yeah that works apparently.

0:39:53.920 --> 0:39:57.520
<v Speaker 1>So oh, the injection of young blood into old mices

0:39:57.600 --> 0:40:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm talking about. It wasn't injections. They suddenly I was.

0:40:01.160 --> 0:40:02.839
<v Speaker 1>I was talking about. I saw something where they took

0:40:02.880 --> 0:40:04.759
<v Speaker 1>the blood of young mice and put it into old

0:40:04.760 --> 0:40:09.000
<v Speaker 1>mice and like, whoa, I'm two weeks old again. That

0:40:09.080 --> 0:40:11.160
<v Speaker 1>was the next step to so old people have to

0:40:11.160 --> 0:40:14.160
<v Speaker 1>go out and bag of a young one in the

0:40:14.560 --> 0:40:19.359
<v Speaker 1>going to the clinic was so I'm not coming over

0:40:19.400 --> 0:40:24.719
<v Speaker 1>here anymore. Um, so can we move on to the

0:40:24.760 --> 0:40:28.799
<v Speaker 1>next theory, some more rational stuff. I guess it's not

0:40:28.840 --> 0:40:31.880
<v Speaker 1>so much of a theory as it is a revelation.

0:40:32.520 --> 0:40:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I know Joe really likes this part of it because

0:40:34.560 --> 0:40:36.320
<v Speaker 1>he emailed me like twenty times this week and it

0:40:36.400 --> 0:40:37.960
<v Speaker 1>is like, but did you read that? Did you read

0:40:38.000 --> 0:40:40.040
<v Speaker 1>the article? Did you read that thing? Essentially read that

0:40:40.040 --> 0:40:41.360
<v Speaker 1>thing I sent you? Did you read it? Did you

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.239
<v Speaker 1>read it interesting? Did you read it? Did you read it? Yeah,

0:40:44.239 --> 0:40:48.200
<v Speaker 1>it's got a lot of biological or biographical or starting

0:40:48.400 --> 0:40:50.239
<v Speaker 1>it's got a lot about the history of R. C.

0:40:50.480 --> 0:40:54.480
<v Speaker 1>Christians relationship with a local banker. Yeah, it was actually

0:40:54.719 --> 0:40:58.200
<v Speaker 1>his liaison for the whole thing. So there's two people.

0:40:58.520 --> 0:41:02.120
<v Speaker 1>And why didn't you email this to me? Uh, jerk,

0:41:03.239 --> 0:41:04.920
<v Speaker 1>you wanted to keep me. I I get it. I'm

0:41:04.920 --> 0:41:08.680
<v Speaker 1>a mushroom. It's okay. I figured that. I figured that Chris.

0:41:08.800 --> 0:41:11.200
<v Speaker 1>If I figured that if Devin wanted to use it,

0:41:11.320 --> 0:41:12.960
<v Speaker 1>then she would go ahead and send a copy to

0:41:13.000 --> 0:41:15.560
<v Speaker 1>you too. I just basically sent it to hear it said,

0:41:15.600 --> 0:41:18.200
<v Speaker 1>have you seen this? What is this? Because this is

0:41:18.239 --> 0:41:20.520
<v Speaker 1>obviously going to be new to me. It is gonna

0:41:20.640 --> 0:41:24.920
<v Speaker 1>be so we have to go a little into the

0:41:24.920 --> 0:41:27.960
<v Speaker 1>backstory again, this story makes sense. So this is before

0:41:27.960 --> 0:41:30.680
<v Speaker 1>everything gets built and directed. Yes, okay, so I've titled

0:41:30.719 --> 0:41:35.520
<v Speaker 1>this theory White Martin knows because he's he's the only

0:41:35.560 --> 0:41:38.040
<v Speaker 1>one who actually does he actually does know. White Martin

0:41:38.520 --> 0:41:42.120
<v Speaker 1>was a very important person at the Albergin Bank. You know,

0:41:42.160 --> 0:41:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't remember if he was the manager or the

0:41:44.160 --> 0:41:48.120
<v Speaker 1>president or but he was. He was. He was the

0:41:48.120 --> 0:41:50.279
<v Speaker 1>man who made the decisions. Yes, he was involved in

0:41:50.280 --> 0:41:52.040
<v Speaker 1>the day to move on top of the whole thing.

0:41:52.200 --> 0:41:55.640
<v Speaker 1>He was he did deal with actually granting loans and

0:41:55.680 --> 0:42:01.600
<v Speaker 1>things like that. And Joe Friendly friendly and I'm not

0:42:01.600 --> 0:42:08.000
<v Speaker 1>pronouncing the end. It's fine company. Alberton Granite was approached

0:42:08.080 --> 0:42:13.880
<v Speaker 1>by this man apparently an elegant gray fellow. Not not

0:42:14.000 --> 0:42:18.640
<v Speaker 1>his skin, his hair. Yeah, let's not go there. Even

0:42:20.960 --> 0:42:23.120
<v Speaker 1>I would like to order some great whacking pieces of

0:42:24.719 --> 0:42:27.880
<v Speaker 1>who was. He was well dressed and spoke eloquently and

0:42:28.520 --> 0:42:34.920
<v Speaker 1>was very educated and he ARSI Christian approached Joe Fendley,

0:42:35.239 --> 0:42:38.520
<v Speaker 1>there's the end, asking him kind of outlying his project,

0:42:39.520 --> 0:42:42.279
<v Speaker 1>did the Georgia guide Stone, and you know, said that

0:42:42.320 --> 0:42:48.000
<v Speaker 1>he represented a small group of concerned American citizens and

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:53.880
<v Speaker 1>these were kind of his parameters. And Fendley said, this

0:42:53.960 --> 0:42:59.720
<v Speaker 1>guy's crazy. We've never mind anything mind Corey, never Corey.

0:43:00.000 --> 0:43:03.399
<v Speaker 1>We've never coreried anything even half the size of what

0:43:03.440 --> 0:43:06.440
<v Speaker 1>he's asking for. I don't know if we're going to

0:43:06.480 --> 0:43:09.200
<v Speaker 1>be able to do this, but I guess if he's

0:43:09.200 --> 0:43:13.400
<v Speaker 1>going to give us the money, we'll try. What the heck? Yeah,

0:43:13.520 --> 0:43:17.560
<v Speaker 1>that makes sense, okay, arc Christian goes over to the bank.

0:43:17.640 --> 0:43:19.839
<v Speaker 1>Friendly takes him over to the bank. He's friends with

0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:23.799
<v Speaker 1>Wyatt Martin. I don't think I think it just just

0:43:24.000 --> 0:43:26.759
<v Speaker 1>told him, you know, Wendell Martin at the bank. You know,

0:43:26.920 --> 0:43:31.279
<v Speaker 1>I sent him over the wat Yeah, I don't know

0:43:31.320 --> 0:43:32.960
<v Speaker 1>if he sent him over there. He walked him over there.

0:43:32.960 --> 0:43:35.239
<v Speaker 1>It's you know, a little unclear. This is a while ago.

0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:39.400
<v Speaker 1>And he says, Okay, we'll talk to Whyatt Martin and

0:43:39.400 --> 0:43:41.080
<v Speaker 1>see if you can get you know, a line of credit,

0:43:41.080 --> 0:43:42.839
<v Speaker 1>if you can get the money or anything like that.

0:43:42.880 --> 0:43:44.839
<v Speaker 1>And if you can get the money, well, you know,

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:49.160
<v Speaker 1>i'd be crazy to say no to the thousand dollars

0:43:49.239 --> 0:43:52.279
<v Speaker 1>or whatever. He's all kinds of money, yeah, lots and

0:43:52.280 --> 0:43:55.920
<v Speaker 1>lots of money. So Christian goes over to talk to

0:43:56.520 --> 0:44:01.320
<v Speaker 1>Martin at the bank. At the bank and Martin says, okay,

0:44:01.320 --> 0:44:03.759
<v Speaker 1>well who you know, who are you? What do you

0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:06.319
<v Speaker 1>want to kind of you know, just takes him through

0:44:06.360 --> 0:44:11.400
<v Speaker 1>it again. ARC Christian does, and arc Christian openly admits, okay,

0:44:11.400 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>well R. C. Christian isn't my real name is a

0:44:13.040 --> 0:44:17.400
<v Speaker 1>pseudonym and I'll never reveal to you my true identity.

0:44:17.640 --> 0:44:20.160
<v Speaker 1>Of course, this is the problem from Martin. Yeah, because

0:44:20.160 --> 0:44:22.520
<v Speaker 1>this guy's thinking, well, we want you to do this

0:44:22.560 --> 0:44:24.920
<v Speaker 1>thing to me really expensive, but you know who I am.

0:44:25.520 --> 0:44:27.480
<v Speaker 1>But he wasn't asking for a loan. He just wanted

0:44:27.520 --> 0:44:30.439
<v Speaker 1>banking services, basically. Yeah, he wasn't asking for a loan,

0:44:30.600 --> 0:44:32.879
<v Speaker 1>you know. He said, I'm good for it. You can

0:44:33.360 --> 0:44:36.400
<v Speaker 1>get the money transferred from my bank. Here's the account

0:44:36.400 --> 0:44:40.680
<v Speaker 1>information or whatever. I think. He ended up making deposits

0:44:40.680 --> 0:44:43.839
<v Speaker 1>in lots of banks around the country and then having

0:44:43.840 --> 0:44:51.720
<v Speaker 1>them wired directly to Martin's bank. But essentially Martin said, okay,

0:44:51.719 --> 0:44:53.200
<v Speaker 1>you know what I need to think about this, so

0:44:53.640 --> 0:44:56.879
<v Speaker 1>come back on Monday we'll talk about it. So I'll

0:44:56.920 --> 0:44:59.800
<v Speaker 1>read Christian came back to the bank Monday. Martin explained

0:44:59.840 --> 0:45:02.000
<v Speaker 1>that he could not proceed unless he could verify the

0:45:02.000 --> 0:45:05.160
<v Speaker 1>man's true identity and quote get some assurance that you

0:45:05.160 --> 0:45:07.960
<v Speaker 1>can pay for this thing. Eventually, the to negotiated an

0:45:08.000 --> 0:45:10.680
<v Speaker 1>agreement Christian would reveal his real name on the condition

0:45:10.719 --> 0:45:14.520
<v Speaker 1>that Martin promised to serve his soul as his soul intermediary,

0:45:14.640 --> 0:45:17.960
<v Speaker 1>sign a confidentiality agreement pledging to never disclose the information

0:45:18.000 --> 0:45:21.080
<v Speaker 1>to another soul, and agreed to destroy all documents and

0:45:21.120 --> 0:45:23.919
<v Speaker 1>records related to the project when he was finished. That's

0:45:24.000 --> 0:45:26.760
<v Speaker 1>kind of counter to what banks like to do. Yes,

0:45:27.640 --> 0:45:30.160
<v Speaker 1>but again, there's a lot of money. And I guess

0:45:30.200 --> 0:45:36.000
<v Speaker 1>I haven't mentioned yet that Alberton's soul huge industry is

0:45:36.239 --> 0:45:40.319
<v Speaker 1>the granite Yeah, that's that's that's what they do now.

0:45:40.400 --> 0:45:43.680
<v Speaker 1>The big industry is the Georgia guidestones. Yeah, so I

0:45:43.719 --> 0:45:48.120
<v Speaker 1>don't know. I assume that it's late eighties, people aren't

0:45:48.239 --> 0:45:54.520
<v Speaker 1>buying huge bulk things of grant. Point. Here, this man

0:45:54.680 --> 0:45:56.520
<v Speaker 1>comes in and says, I'm going to give you guys

0:45:56.719 --> 0:46:00.200
<v Speaker 1>a crap ton of money to do this project. Me.

0:46:00.760 --> 0:46:02.319
<v Speaker 1>You know, I can assume that it would be hard

0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:06.080
<v Speaker 1>to turn him down on that. Yeah, probably. Yeah, So

0:46:06.400 --> 0:46:10.920
<v Speaker 1>Martin White Martin, he's alive today. He's seventy eight years well,

0:46:10.960 --> 0:46:14.799
<v Speaker 1>I guess he was seventy season is his eighties. He

0:46:14.920 --> 0:46:17.839
<v Speaker 1>is alive, and he to this day has still not

0:46:18.440 --> 0:46:23.239
<v Speaker 1>disclosed any information about Arc Christian. Arc Christian, for his part,

0:46:23.280 --> 0:46:25.759
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been heard of since a roughly on the turn

0:46:25.840 --> 0:46:28.880
<v Speaker 1>of the turn of the millennium. About this, yeah, roughly

0:46:28.920 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 1>around nine eleven. They apparently would write letters back and forth.

0:46:32.640 --> 0:46:37.080
<v Speaker 1>They were they head correspondence um. Martin says that every

0:46:37.080 --> 0:46:38.920
<v Speaker 1>single time a letter came to him, it came from

0:46:38.960 --> 0:46:42.080
<v Speaker 1>a different place. He never sent letters from the same city.

0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:46.120
<v Speaker 1>They corresponded for years, So for years they apparently became

0:46:46.200 --> 0:46:50.080
<v Speaker 1>kind of good friends. And Martin again, for his part,

0:46:50.200 --> 0:46:52.520
<v Speaker 1>gets really upset when he hears all of these kind

0:46:52.520 --> 0:46:56.719
<v Speaker 1>of Satanists, new World Order, freemason theories, because, you know,

0:46:56.800 --> 0:47:01.120
<v Speaker 1>he kind of says, I don't know, but I had

0:47:01.160 --> 0:47:03.400
<v Speaker 1>correspondence with this man for a long time, and he

0:47:03.440 --> 0:47:05.280
<v Speaker 1>didn't strike me as that kind of person. He struck

0:47:05.320 --> 0:47:07.319
<v Speaker 1>me as a really truly good man who was just

0:47:07.400 --> 0:47:10.600
<v Speaker 1>a little concerned about the future of America, the state

0:47:10.640 --> 0:47:14.680
<v Speaker 1>of things, state of things? Yeah, who's not so any

0:47:14.680 --> 0:47:16.600
<v Speaker 1>way that Yeah, back to that time, and then he

0:47:16.600 --> 0:47:19.359
<v Speaker 1>goes and sees friendly again with that little model. Yeah,

0:47:19.360 --> 0:47:23.759
<v Speaker 1>he brings a little model in a shoebox model of

0:47:23.760 --> 0:47:26.560
<v Speaker 1>what he made, huh, and gives it to him and

0:47:26.640 --> 0:47:29.600
<v Speaker 1>you know, pays them and a bunch of specs along

0:47:29.640 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 1>with that. Ye, And that's kind of the story. So

0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:37.160
<v Speaker 1>the banker is the only one who has any concrete

0:47:37.200 --> 0:47:40.200
<v Speaker 1>information of who the guy really was, and he's not

0:47:40.400 --> 0:47:43.680
<v Speaker 1>festen Up. Yeah, that was holding true to his word

0:47:43.840 --> 0:47:47.280
<v Speaker 1>and not he is. The only thing that he didn't

0:47:47.520 --> 0:47:50.919
<v Speaker 1>follow is that he's still as of the last time

0:47:50.960 --> 0:47:56.960
<v Speaker 1>anybody interviewed him, he still had all the documents, including R. C.

0:47:57.120 --> 0:48:01.040
<v Speaker 1>Christian's true identity, but he wasn't showing he wasn't. No,

0:48:01.320 --> 0:48:03.319
<v Speaker 1>I'm scrolled away. He thought he would maybe write a book,

0:48:03.400 --> 0:48:05.359
<v Speaker 1>but he probably you know, I don't think he ever.

0:48:05.400 --> 0:48:08.000
<v Speaker 1>He never really got around to it. So I guess

0:48:07.800 --> 0:48:11.400
<v Speaker 1>it's totally possible that, you know, upon this death, I

0:48:11.440 --> 0:48:16.879
<v Speaker 1>don't know how true to this promise his family may

0:48:16.960 --> 0:48:18.959
<v Speaker 1>end up being or anything like that, but I guess

0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:22.040
<v Speaker 1>it's possible that one and why it Martin dies, they'll

0:48:22.680 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>release the documents and will know possibly for sure, or

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:28.839
<v Speaker 1>they might not, or maybe he'll dispose of them before

0:48:28.840 --> 0:48:30.680
<v Speaker 1>he dies. Yeah, or he might put in his will

0:48:30.719 --> 0:48:32.960
<v Speaker 1>that they should be buried with him or something like that. Yeah,

0:48:33.080 --> 0:48:36.040
<v Speaker 1>they'll be putting a time capsule under the Georgia night Stone. Yeah.

0:48:36.040 --> 0:48:37.640
<v Speaker 1>Actually he should put in his will if they should

0:48:37.640 --> 0:48:44.560
<v Speaker 1>be like burned and then don't put him in Yeah.

0:48:45.239 --> 0:48:48.200
<v Speaker 1>Not a good idea in retrospect. So the the one

0:48:48.200 --> 0:48:52.360
<v Speaker 1>other theory, which I honestly kind of like, is that

0:48:52.840 --> 0:48:56.960
<v Speaker 1>Martin and Fendley just did it together. Doubt it. The

0:48:57.360 --> 0:49:00.680
<v Speaker 1>RCI Christian isn't a real person that they kind of

0:49:00.719 --> 0:49:05.320
<v Speaker 1>concocted this story. Martin financed it. Findley was trying to

0:49:05.560 --> 0:49:12.120
<v Speaker 1>promote more granted us the business, the business, you know.

0:49:12.120 --> 0:49:16.280
<v Speaker 1>They thought, this will really this weird mystery, will promote

0:49:16.360 --> 0:49:19.720
<v Speaker 1>people buying granted things, will promote interest in the area

0:49:21.239 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>tourists and tourists. And this was the late seventies. Things

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:29.520
<v Speaker 1>were really in the Dulgrums economically speaking. Yeah, and if

0:49:29.560 --> 0:49:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Fendly was his friend, then his business was like kind

0:49:32.000 --> 0:49:34.040
<v Speaker 1>of teatering from Martin. They wanted to like throw a

0:49:34.120 --> 0:49:35.680
<v Speaker 1>huge amount of business this way, and this would be

0:49:35.719 --> 0:49:37.880
<v Speaker 1>a lot of business. Yeah, and that you could say,

0:49:37.880 --> 0:49:40.160
<v Speaker 1>Oh no, it was this weird secret person that nobody

0:49:40.200 --> 0:49:42.719
<v Speaker 1>else recalls seeing around town. You know, it's a small town.

0:49:42.760 --> 0:49:46.279
<v Speaker 1>Nobody really recalls seeing this man around town. It was

0:49:46.320 --> 0:49:49.480
<v Speaker 1>this big, mysterious project that took a year to complete.

0:49:50.239 --> 0:49:52.719
<v Speaker 1>It got a lot of workers working. It got a

0:49:52.719 --> 0:49:56.040
<v Speaker 1>lot of people doing a lot of stuff. I heard

0:49:56.080 --> 0:49:58.480
<v Speaker 1>they hired translators from the U n To translate the

0:49:58.520 --> 0:50:02.439
<v Speaker 1>English myth message and all the other languages. They don't

0:50:02.440 --> 0:50:04.560
<v Speaker 1>know about that they may have. I know that they

0:50:04.600 --> 0:50:07.960
<v Speaker 1>brought they had to bring in special equipment from all

0:50:08.000 --> 0:50:11.640
<v Speaker 1>around the country to cut the edges and of the

0:50:11.680 --> 0:50:16.240
<v Speaker 1>stone and stuff like that. So it was this big project.

0:50:16.280 --> 0:50:17.759
<v Speaker 1>So there is a little bit of a theory out

0:50:17.760 --> 0:50:20.520
<v Speaker 1>there that it was just these two guys. They decided

0:50:20.560 --> 0:50:24.439
<v Speaker 1>to concoct the story of this weird, mysterious pseudonyms man

0:50:25.680 --> 0:50:28.080
<v Speaker 1>business to drum up business and tourism in the area.

0:50:29.440 --> 0:50:31.640
<v Speaker 1>Could be probably drummed a business, But I don't know

0:50:31.680 --> 0:50:34.200
<v Speaker 1>about tourism. Yeah, I don't know about They could be

0:50:34.239 --> 0:50:36.040
<v Speaker 1>they were just out in the woods smoking or joint

0:50:37.400 --> 0:50:40.040
<v Speaker 1>and they witnessed the witness to drug deal gone bad

0:50:40.200 --> 0:50:42.920
<v Speaker 1>and this this is there's a big shootout. Both bandidos

0:50:43.080 --> 0:50:45.480
<v Speaker 1>die and they walk over and there's this big suitcase

0:50:45.560 --> 0:50:48.000
<v Speaker 1>full of cash land there and they decided to make

0:50:48.040 --> 0:50:52.000
<v Speaker 1>the guide stones instead of dude, man, wow, this is

0:50:52.080 --> 0:50:53.560
<v Speaker 1>this is really wild. Man. What do you want to

0:50:53.560 --> 0:50:58.960
<v Speaker 1>do with the money? Stone? Hitch man? Dude man, wow,

0:50:59.160 --> 0:51:02.640
<v Speaker 1>what do you want to do? Yeah? I think that's

0:51:02.680 --> 0:51:09.719
<v Speaker 1>probably exactly what They's the iconic phrase from today, the

0:51:10.080 --> 0:51:12.399
<v Speaker 1>oh you have a theory? Oh I think yeah too,

0:51:12.480 --> 0:51:17.359
<v Speaker 1>But go ahead, okay, now, okay, So we're not gonna know.

0:51:18.560 --> 0:51:21.720
<v Speaker 1>I don't think who R. C. Christian was. That's probably true.

0:51:21.840 --> 0:51:23.880
<v Speaker 1>But but the big mystery is is who is his shadow,

0:51:24.000 --> 0:51:27.160
<v Speaker 1>shadowy cabal of people that financed him, Who was employers?

0:51:27.400 --> 0:51:29.839
<v Speaker 1>And I have the answer to that. Oh yes, a

0:51:29.920 --> 0:51:32.879
<v Speaker 1>very rich guy who lives in Georgia and who has

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.960
<v Speaker 1>who thinks and says kind of wooly headed stuff like this,

0:51:36.719 --> 0:51:39.120
<v Speaker 1>and I'm talking about and I'm holding up the commandments

0:51:39.120 --> 0:51:41.799
<v Speaker 1>in front of the microphone here because everybody can read

0:51:41.840 --> 0:51:45.239
<v Speaker 1>him that way exactly. Uh. And so this person is

0:51:45.680 --> 0:51:48.920
<v Speaker 1>Ted Turner. He is the guy. It's not a it's

0:51:48.920 --> 0:51:51.280
<v Speaker 1>not a group of Americans. That was just a subtract.

0:51:51.320 --> 0:51:53.080
<v Speaker 1>Use to say it was a group. It's just Ted.

0:51:53.440 --> 0:51:56.960
<v Speaker 1>So that's your entire theories. You're pointing it to Ted. Yeah,

0:51:56.960 --> 0:52:00.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm standing. But how old was Ted then? I don't know.

0:52:00.480 --> 0:52:05.880
<v Speaker 1>He was born in Yeah, yeah he was. He was

0:52:05.920 --> 0:52:08.759
<v Speaker 1>already fairly wealthy by that time, and not nearly as

0:52:08.760 --> 0:52:11.520
<v Speaker 1>wealth easy as today. But he has some books, Okay,

0:52:11.719 --> 0:52:16.280
<v Speaker 1>Ted Turner theory. Okay, Well, No. The thing that really

0:52:16.440 --> 0:52:20.719
<v Speaker 1>irks me about this whole story is when people go

0:52:20.800 --> 0:52:26.680
<v Speaker 1>off on the Freemasons and the New World Order and

0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:31.120
<v Speaker 1>all of this stuff and spazzing out over what what

0:52:31.160 --> 0:52:34.640
<v Speaker 1>it means when I looked at it when I first

0:52:34.719 --> 0:52:36.720
<v Speaker 1>read this, and I've I've kind of held this viewpoint

0:52:36.719 --> 0:52:40.719
<v Speaker 1>the whole time this was made. This thing had to

0:52:40.760 --> 0:52:44.279
<v Speaker 1>be designed in the late seventies, which means somebody was

0:52:44.320 --> 0:52:47.279
<v Speaker 1>thinking about this probably in the early to mid seventies,

0:52:47.760 --> 0:52:50.560
<v Speaker 1>which is, you know, this isn't a time of turmoil

0:52:50.840 --> 0:52:54.640
<v Speaker 1>and and love and we should be good to one another,

0:52:54.760 --> 0:52:57.560
<v Speaker 1>and there's all these these social values that are people

0:52:57.640 --> 0:52:59.239
<v Speaker 1>are trying to put out there from kind of the

0:52:59.320 --> 0:53:02.000
<v Speaker 1>hippie era. Uh sure, And I get the feeling that

0:53:02.080 --> 0:53:05.040
<v Speaker 1>this is just this is kind of a bunch of

0:53:05.160 --> 0:53:08.640
<v Speaker 1>wealthy hippies almost like be good to the earth man,

0:53:09.360 --> 0:53:13.439
<v Speaker 1>don't have too many kids manically, Yeah, I don't, don't

0:53:13.520 --> 0:53:17.280
<v Speaker 1>kill things man like the planet. And that's what we're saying.

0:53:17.360 --> 0:53:19.520
<v Speaker 1>But we just wrote it in this fancy way because

0:53:19.560 --> 0:53:22.480
<v Speaker 1>we had a thesaurus. Man Like, that's really just what

0:53:22.560 --> 0:53:23.759
<v Speaker 1>I feel like it is. Is Is this a bunch of

0:53:23.800 --> 0:53:25.640
<v Speaker 1>guys feel like we just think that you should do

0:53:25.680 --> 0:53:29.399
<v Speaker 1>these things to be good? And then everybody just went

0:53:29.520 --> 0:53:33.440
<v Speaker 1>completely off the rails and hung a serious turn in

0:53:33.480 --> 0:53:37.440
<v Speaker 1>Albuquerque and have just cap going down that path when

0:53:37.440 --> 0:53:40.120
<v Speaker 1>the whole thing to me is just be good to

0:53:40.160 --> 0:53:42.680
<v Speaker 1>each other and be good to the planet and end

0:53:42.719 --> 0:53:46.879
<v Speaker 1>to be okay, be excellent, dude. Exactly when I get

0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:48.560
<v Speaker 1>rich enough, I'm gonna have one put up and it's

0:53:48.560 --> 0:53:51.520
<v Speaker 1>gonna have stuff like like you know, like I'd like

0:53:51.560 --> 0:53:58.080
<v Speaker 1>to buy the world a coke stuff sprinkles and sprinkles.

0:53:59.440 --> 0:54:00.799
<v Speaker 1>I'd like to buy the World of co could be

0:54:00.880 --> 0:54:06.200
<v Speaker 1>number seven, and then number it will be Synergy. No. Yeah,

0:54:06.400 --> 0:54:09.839
<v Speaker 1>well if we see that pop up anywhere where, Yeah,

0:54:10.800 --> 0:54:13.560
<v Speaker 1>that's mine. I don't know. I mean, you're you're kind

0:54:13.560 --> 0:54:15.440
<v Speaker 1>of likeing the idea that it was just those two.

0:54:15.640 --> 0:54:18.279
<v Speaker 1>I kind of do. Yeah, it seems like the most

0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:22.680
<v Speaker 1>reasonable to me. I don't know financial history of Wyatt Martin.

0:54:22.840 --> 0:54:25.239
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if he actually had access to that

0:54:25.320 --> 0:54:27.480
<v Speaker 1>kind of money. I doubt that he was stinking rich

0:54:27.600 --> 0:54:30.000
<v Speaker 1>enough to do that, I don't think so. I don't

0:54:30.040 --> 0:54:36.520
<v Speaker 1>know if there's some unfinished embezzling charges against anyone, you know.

0:54:36.880 --> 0:54:39.719
<v Speaker 1>I don't really know the story there, but I kind

0:54:39.719 --> 0:54:43.040
<v Speaker 1>of like that well, and it could have been, actually,

0:54:43.840 --> 0:54:46.120
<v Speaker 1>it could have been that he knew the whole group

0:54:46.120 --> 0:54:49.560
<v Speaker 1>and they were actually wealthy people from Elbert County, which

0:54:49.640 --> 0:54:51.480
<v Speaker 1>is a little bit of a backwater. It's in way

0:54:51.600 --> 0:54:55.960
<v Speaker 1>north Way, North Georgia, by the South Carolina border and

0:54:56.880 --> 0:54:59.600
<v Speaker 1>kind of off the beaten path. And now that they

0:54:59.600 --> 0:55:03.120
<v Speaker 1>have the the Georgia Guidestone there, it's now on a

0:55:03.200 --> 0:55:06.800
<v Speaker 1>beaten path. It's got a major, serious, world famous tourist

0:55:06.800 --> 0:55:09.520
<v Speaker 1>attraction in it now. Yeah, so I could picture some

0:55:09.560 --> 0:55:13.640
<v Speaker 1>county elders getting together and just approaching Martin and just saying, hey, look,

0:55:13.640 --> 0:55:15.520
<v Speaker 1>we're gonna do this, but we're gonna do it on

0:55:15.520 --> 0:55:18.839
<v Speaker 1>the sly create some mystery, will to create even more

0:55:18.920 --> 0:55:22.600
<v Speaker 1>buzz and and even more interest and uh and so

0:55:22.719 --> 0:55:27.359
<v Speaker 1>you'll never you know, nobody get to know who we are. Well,

0:55:27.400 --> 0:55:30.399
<v Speaker 1>because that that does ask her one serious question, which

0:55:30.440 --> 0:55:33.239
<v Speaker 1>is why Albert County, Georgia. Not that I'm putting down

0:55:33.320 --> 0:55:36.160
<v Speaker 1>Elbert County, but of all the places to put this thing,

0:55:36.719 --> 0:55:40.839
<v Speaker 1>Albert County, Georgia is the granite capital of America. Yeah,

0:55:40.840 --> 0:55:43.760
<v Speaker 1>but there's other granite places. Yeah, but it was probably

0:55:43.800 --> 0:55:47.000
<v Speaker 1>the cheapest there. Well, I'm sure it was cheapest. Yeah. Yeah,

0:55:47.239 --> 0:55:49.359
<v Speaker 1>So I know that's just the possible that the last

0:55:49.360 --> 0:55:51.080
<v Speaker 1>thing you want to do was go to the second

0:55:51.160 --> 0:55:54.560
<v Speaker 1>cheapest guy and find out he can't corey it big enough,

0:55:54.600 --> 0:55:57.680
<v Speaker 1>and suddenly you've got a monument that's in danger of

0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:02.000
<v Speaker 1>being crushed by elves. We're going back to that, and

0:56:02.200 --> 0:56:06.520
<v Speaker 1>we're going back to that analogy back. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,

0:56:06.560 --> 0:56:09.160
<v Speaker 1>So anyway asked, My thoughts is that if you're going

0:56:09.200 --> 0:56:11.160
<v Speaker 1>to build it, we want to build a tourist attraction.

0:56:11.239 --> 0:56:13.600
<v Speaker 1>It's going to be called American Stonehenge. And well, if

0:56:13.760 --> 0:56:16.920
<v Speaker 1>people know that it's just a fake that you built

0:56:16.960 --> 0:56:19.040
<v Speaker 1>just to draw tourists, and that's not going to have

0:56:19.080 --> 0:56:24.759
<v Speaker 1>any any sort of draw whatsoever. Where The big mistake there,

0:56:24.800 --> 0:56:27.200
<v Speaker 1>of course, is that there is an American stonehenge, and

0:56:27.280 --> 0:56:30.640
<v Speaker 1>it is it's in Washington Mary Hill. Yeah, it's in

0:56:30.680 --> 0:56:36.920
<v Speaker 1>Merry Hill. Yeah. When was that built? The early twentieth century.

0:56:37.000 --> 0:56:40.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to agree with that, the early century. Okay, Yeah,

0:56:41.080 --> 0:56:44.760
<v Speaker 1>well this was a listener suggestion. Who was our listener?

0:56:44.880 --> 0:56:48.319
<v Speaker 1>It was from a guy named Chandler. Chandler, thank you,

0:56:49.120 --> 0:56:52.560
<v Speaker 1>very cool story, good idea. You know, I don't remember

0:56:52.680 --> 0:56:54.960
<v Speaker 1>having come across this one in the past, so can't

0:56:55.000 --> 0:56:58.000
<v Speaker 1>be true. You know, I probably have, but I just

0:56:58.040 --> 0:57:00.719
<v Speaker 1>don't remember it. So I'm no. I'm glad that to

0:57:00.840 --> 0:57:02.879
<v Speaker 1>us because I wouldn't have thought to pick it up. Yeah.

0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:06.319
<v Speaker 1>I actually wouldn't have either. I don't know why though.

0:57:07.239 --> 0:57:09.040
<v Speaker 1>You know, another one of those we talked about this

0:57:09.120 --> 0:57:11.520
<v Speaker 1>sometimes where we've known about these unsolved mysteries for a

0:57:11.520 --> 0:57:14.600
<v Speaker 1>long time and we don't think about it until somebody says, hey,

0:57:14.640 --> 0:57:16.760
<v Speaker 1>you guys should do this mystery, and we're like, oh, yeah,

0:57:16.800 --> 0:57:21.600
<v Speaker 1>we should do that. Yea, that mystery. I love that mystery. Yeah,

0:57:21.680 --> 0:57:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I was. I had actually heard about this quite a

0:57:23.880 --> 0:57:26.920
<v Speaker 1>while back and then forgotten about it. Right, No, I

0:57:26.920 --> 0:57:30.000
<v Speaker 1>had forgotten about It's on my list of possibilities, but

0:57:30.120 --> 0:57:31.680
<v Speaker 1>I just never got around. I guess I thought it

0:57:31.680 --> 0:57:38.760
<v Speaker 1>was really pretty lame. Well, really enjoyed this story. Yeah,

0:57:39.480 --> 0:57:42.919
<v Speaker 1>so the pictures or the drawing for sure, and maybe

0:57:42.960 --> 0:57:47.280
<v Speaker 1>another picture too, yeah, probably. But the links will also

0:57:47.400 --> 0:57:51.480
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0:57:51.560 --> 0:57:56.760
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0:58:03.720 --> 0:58:07.200
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0:58:43.280 --> 0:58:52.360
<v Speaker 1>think that's solid. Yeah, all the different electric avenues. So yeah,

0:58:52.360 --> 0:58:55.880
<v Speaker 1>another another week, another mystery solved. Oh we solved this one,

0:58:55.920 --> 0:59:02.400
<v Speaker 1>did we, Ted Turner, Oh, I see I didn't realize. Well,

0:59:02.440 --> 0:59:04.680
<v Speaker 1>I guess we'll get on out of here then. Alright

0:59:04.680 --> 0:59:07.800
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