Speaker 1: Thinking Sideways. I don't you never know stories of things
Speaker 1: we simply don't know the answer too. Hey, everybody, welcome
Speaker 1: to the Thinking Sideways the podcast. I'm Devin, joined as
Speaker 1: always by Joe and Steve. I like that we have
Speaker 1: to say the end. Yes, Yes, we're gonna do a
Speaker 1: big old mystery. It's just a big old mystery. It's
Speaker 1: very sistinct. This is very sistinct. We're gonna talk about
Speaker 1: the Georgia Guidestones today, which many of you may have
Speaker 1: heard of it. You've probably you've heard of them. Um,
Speaker 1: they're a granite monolithic monument. They it, it's it. I
Speaker 1: think it's an it because it's several, but they're assembled
Speaker 1: into an it. It's like they don't say it's a
Speaker 1: single stonehenge, it's it's stonehenge. Well I don't know, now,
Speaker 1: I just stonehenge, but that it. But it's guide stones.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, there's a there's a bunch of them,
Speaker 1: not just one. So this the granite monument is in
Speaker 1: um Elbert County in Georgia, in the United States of America.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll start with a description of what it
Speaker 1: looks like. It's probably a good place to start, of course,
Speaker 1: pictures on the website absolutely, and nifty drawing too. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna put that drawing up because I think
Speaker 1: it's the best way, most descriptive way. It'll help you
Speaker 1: understand some of these bizarre things that we're going to describe. Absolutely.
Speaker 1: Um So, as Steve was kind of alluding to often,
Speaker 1: this is called the American Stonehenge. Yeah. It's about nineteen
Speaker 1: feet and three inches tall, which for our non American
Speaker 1: listeners is five point eight seven ms. Okay, that's that's
Speaker 1: kind of right. I believe that conversion. I'm really good
Speaker 1: at conversions, so it's obviously right. And one of our
Speaker 1: listeners go out to the web. Yeah, it's six granite
Speaker 1: slabs that weigh two hundred and thirty seven thousand, seven
Speaker 1: hundred and forty six pounds collectively, not each, Yeah, which
Speaker 1: is huge, bigger somehow it's very small, but it weighs
Speaker 1: a lot of a lot. Is that what was that
Speaker 1: movie where they had the miniature Stonehenge? Are you talking
Speaker 1: about Spinal Tap? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's what this makes
Speaker 1: me think of. Man, I don't you don't remember that
Speaker 1: in Spinal Tap? When we're going to have a huge
Speaker 1: stonehand on stage and then they lower it. It's about
Speaker 1: eight inches tall and they have little people dancing around
Speaker 1: and they're all upset. It was in danger of being
Speaker 1: crushed by little people there. They drew it all up.
Speaker 1: But instead of that, they put the dimensions in inches
Speaker 1: instead the feet. An easy mistake to make. So this
Speaker 1: is not the one from Spinal Town. No, No, it's huge,
Speaker 1: looks a lot different. It does look different. It's only stonehenge.
Speaker 1: Ask in that it is monolithic stone and it's made
Speaker 1: of it's made of big as rocks, yeah, really big rocks. However,
Speaker 1: this one was made in the century, sorry, really late seventies.
Speaker 1: It was revealed in just to dispel any kind of
Speaker 1: weird We know how it was built, don't worry. There
Speaker 1: are five slabs that are astrolan astronomically aligned. Well there's five,
Speaker 1: there's four. It's the skinny one in the center that's
Speaker 1: not really aligned with anything. Well, it's line. It's a
Speaker 1: line with the North Star. Yeah, so part of I
Speaker 1: guess you could say that's astronomically yeah. And then there's
Speaker 1: a capstone. So there are five that are the full
Speaker 1: nineteen ft tall. There's a yeah, and then there's a
Speaker 1: smaller cap stone on the top, which is still you know,
Speaker 1: big enough to crush your car. Shy normous. Yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a stone tablet that was set in the ground kind
Speaker 1: of west of the structure that provides notes and history
Speaker 1: and a bit about the purpose of the guide stones.
Speaker 1: So on the four stones that Joe was arguing with
Speaker 1: me about, just the four bigger that are aligned, I
Speaker 1: believe they're aligned north, south, east, west, the northeast, southeast,
Speaker 1: but they're all you know, aligned there in an ex battern.
Speaker 1: And on each side of those is an inscription. It's
Speaker 1: the same inscription on every side, but it's in eight
Speaker 1: different languages. Yes, English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindu, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese,
Speaker 1: and Russian, which we'll talk about you know, the languages
Speaker 1: a little bit later. Some of them are really widely
Speaker 1: spoken languages, but some of them aren't. Not a bit
Speaker 1: of a mystery. And it's ten kind of new World commandments,
Speaker 1: if you will, carved into these New Age. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: refer to them as New World commandments, new World Order commandments,
Speaker 1: new World commandments. So we'll read them one at a time.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll just kind of go around in a circle.
Speaker 1: And one. Maintain humanity under five hundred million in perpetual
Speaker 1: balance with nature to guide reproduction wisely, improving fitness and diversity.
Speaker 1: Three Unite humanity with a living new language for rural passion, faith, tradition,
Speaker 1: and all things with tempered reason. Protect people in nations
Speaker 1: with fair laws and just courts. Six. Let all nations
Speaker 1: rule internally, resolving external disputes in a world court. Seven
Speaker 1: avoid petty laws and useless officials. I like that. One. Hey,
Speaker 1: balance personal rights with social duties. Nine Price truth, beauty, love, seeking,
Speaker 1: harmony with the infinite. Ten, be not a cancer on
Speaker 1: the earth. Leave room for nature. Leave room for nature.
Speaker 1: So that's the ten commandments. And then on the cap stone.
Speaker 1: Can we repeat that in the other languages? No, I
Speaker 1: mean if you can, if you speak all those languages,
Speaker 1: you totally can. Y. Yeah, So there's a shorter message
Speaker 1: on the cap stone. It's on the four different sides
Speaker 1: of the cap stone, you know, because the cap stone
Speaker 1: is leading flat, right, So it's on the small edges
Speaker 1: your like, what about a foot and a half thick. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So it's on the like the raw edges, not the
Speaker 1: top on the top. It's uh inscribed in four ancient
Speaker 1: languages Babylonian, Classical, Greek, Sanskrit, and Egyptian hieroglyphs, and it
Speaker 1: says the Georgia Guystones Center Cluster, erected to March twenty two,
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty UM. And then below that there's a there's
Speaker 1: an outline of a square inside which is written, let
Speaker 1: these be guide stones to an age of reason. So
Speaker 1: that's guess. I don't know, you can keep describing, and
Speaker 1: I do want to just as an aside, some of
Speaker 1: these guides guidelines have been a little controversial. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: we're definitely going to talk about Yeah, probably shouldn't put
Speaker 1: the one. Yeah, there's a lot more. There's, you know,
Speaker 1: there's more stuff to talk about with the astronomical astronomical features.
Speaker 1: Astronomical features, there's three main ones and they are laid
Speaker 1: out on this stone that's placed a little bit away.
Speaker 1: It's the granite stone that's placed kind of to the
Speaker 1: west of the stone hinge embedded in the ground slab
Speaker 1: in the big old slab in the ground. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: it outlines the astronomical features and a little bit more information.
Speaker 1: The first one is a channel through the stone that
Speaker 1: indicates the celestial pole, and that's the one that's in
Speaker 1: it kind of like goes up diagonally through the center pole,
Speaker 1: the center stone, center stone. Sorry, and obviously it points
Speaker 1: true north to the to the North Star. Yeah. The
Speaker 1: second is a horizontal slot that indicates the annual travel
Speaker 1: of the Sun. So there's kind of like a mailbox. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it looks a little bit like a mail slot kind
Speaker 1: of in the center, kind of at eye level, but
Speaker 1: it tapers down on together side to a hole. And
Speaker 1: even it's it's I pointed towards the Sun on the equinox, yeah,
Speaker 1: on the vernal and yeah. And the third is the
Speaker 1: Sun being through capstone that marks noontime throughout the year.
Speaker 1: So there's a little hole through the caps own that
Speaker 1: mark's noon at any given time of the year. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because the sound is going to be in a little
Speaker 1: different position in the sky. And I didn't ever see
Speaker 1: and I'm presuming I couldn't see. I didn't notice this
Speaker 1: in any of the images that I was looking at
Speaker 1: where that's at. Is it that kind of because when
Speaker 1: you do the travel of the Sun through the year,
Speaker 1: it's it's almost the infinity loop. So is that etched
Speaker 1: in the stone, because I never saw that, and I
Speaker 1: wasn't sure I presumed it was there. I don't know,
Speaker 1: you know, I look for pictures of that too, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and they just don't exist. Yeah, there's there's all kinds
Speaker 1: of web pages devoted this stuff. There's a weird like
Speaker 1: smooth area. The edges of the rocks are kind of
Speaker 1: like stylistically shorn, right, And that's what I'd seen, that
Speaker 1: smooth area, which is what made me presume that there
Speaker 1: had to be some kind of inscription on that piece
Speaker 1: of stone. But nobody has taken a picture of that,
Speaker 1: And and we've seen a bunch of illustrations that are
Speaker 1: very elaborate and well done, but they didn't ever call
Speaker 1: that out. So maybe it's not there if they're not
Speaker 1: calling it up. But it seems weird that you would
Speaker 1: call that out specifically with a hole in the stone,
Speaker 1: and then not have any way for somebody to reference.
Speaker 1: Do you know what I'm saying? I guess, But it
Speaker 1: also I think you know, these these these stones are
Speaker 1: meant to stand for thousands and thousands of years, right,
Speaker 1: and that it's generally accepted. I'm a little bit jumping ahead,
Speaker 1: but generally accepted that they're meant to guide repopulation, like
Speaker 1: after an apocalyptic event. So I guess it may be
Speaker 1: that it's allowing for shifts, shifts, celestial shifts. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, that's why. That's why I was asking.
Speaker 1: Looking at me like I'm the biggest idiot in the
Speaker 1: whole world. Okay, that's not what that looked me. I
Speaker 1: was just I was just sticking in on the post
Speaker 1: apocalyptic world. You know these guys, so your counties over, Hey,
Speaker 1: you know what day of the week it is, what
Speaker 1: the date is? No, it's good on our horses and
Speaker 1: ride over the So it was this lost in thought. Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: So going back to what's inscribed on this stone, it
Speaker 1: says author R. C. Christian, a pseudonym, pseudonym. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive. If I had to chisel all those
Speaker 1: things out, i'd be dropping whole words. And yeah, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of spots. Right. I put the word in
Speaker 1: above and carve a little d um and I want
Speaker 1: to make it very clear that that is inscribed. It is.
Speaker 1: It makes sure on the stone it says R. C. Christian,
Speaker 1: it's a pseudonym. Ye, just make that very clear because
Speaker 1: when I, you know, the first couple of times I
Speaker 1: read through the stuff, I was like, yes, I know
Speaker 1: it's a pseudonym. Stop it. You don't have to like
Speaker 1: explain to me with this reading I'm doing. Oh no,
Speaker 1: it's actually you look at pictures and it's actually inscribed there.
Speaker 1: So below that it says sponsors a small group of
Speaker 1: Americans who seek the Age of Reason. And then below
Speaker 1: that it says time capsule. Sorry, time capsule place placed
Speaker 1: six ft below this spot on blank to be opened
Speaker 1: on blank. There was a little aside. Treasure hunters are
Speaker 1: generally like really, they're like, oh man, there's a time
Speaker 1: capsule under there, and nobody knows what's in it. We
Speaker 1: don't even really know when it was put down there
Speaker 1: when it's supposed to be open. Well, it turns out
Speaker 1: that actually a times capsule that was never put under there.
Speaker 1: It was supposed to be you know, like local fourth
Speaker 1: graders or something, right, make this time capsule. But that,
Speaker 1: as far as anybody knows, that never actually happened. It
Speaker 1: was supposed to happen. After the big reveal, they were gonna,
Speaker 1: you know, dig down. So treasure hunters have gone and
Speaker 1: tried to find this time capsule that's under there, the
Speaker 1: crap out of it and the ground surrounding it. It
Speaker 1: was originally totally in set with the ground, and now
Speaker 1: it's like halfway out. It's kind of just sitting on
Speaker 1: top of the ground now because people are digging away
Speaker 1: around it. So theoutic you know, it's a time capsule.
Speaker 1: It's not gonna be filled with gold watches and cruder rands. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but I think you know that people. It's not so
Speaker 1: much for the treasure. It's that I think people think
Speaker 1: that there would be answers in there, like an explanation
Speaker 1: of this whole situation or something. And here's here's the
Speaker 1: thing that I thought. As soon as I came across
Speaker 1: that information about people trying to dig it up, I thought,
Speaker 1: you know what the simplest way to stop that would
Speaker 1: be is for the county that owns this monument to
Speaker 1: just go get somebody with a ground radar and run
Speaker 1: it across that slab of stone and then make that
Speaker 1: public available to say, hey, look there's nothing under here,
Speaker 1: stop digging it up. Yeah. So here's what I want
Speaker 1: to say about that and the guide stones in general,
Speaker 1: is that there is a bevy of conspiracy theories the thing,
Speaker 1: and I'm not sure that the kind of people who
Speaker 1: are going out there looking for this stuff wouldn't necessarily
Speaker 1: be convinced by that. But I think that a lot
Speaker 1: of people would think that it was just doctored to
Speaker 1: get us to not look at it anymore. Probably a
Speaker 1: good point. Probably the best thing to do is to
Speaker 1: actually go out there with some heavy equipment and pull
Speaker 1: the stone and dig down Underneathan about ten feet so,
Speaker 1: and make sure there's lots and lots of the public
Speaker 1: there to witness us. You know, there's no time capsule,
Speaker 1: and you fill it back in, put the rock back,
Speaker 1: or actually put a time capsule under there. Yeah, there
Speaker 1: you go. You know, maybe here you go, guys, look
Speaker 1: fourth graders, put it in there forever, down there, forever
Speaker 1: until it becomes obsolete, nestier it would be. It would
Speaker 1: be kind of hard to retrieve that time capsule of granted,
Speaker 1: yeah would be. So I don't know what the plan.
Speaker 1: I've always wanted to like open up a little box
Speaker 1: and like Tom Castle box and have a little a
Speaker 1: little dancing singing frog jump out from the Looney Tunes. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that little frog. Yeah, that guy. So I guess we'll
Speaker 1: move on to some kind of theory things because there's
Speaker 1: two aspects to this. We'll talk a little bit about
Speaker 1: the problems some people have with these stones, some people
Speaker 1: to like vandalize, seriously vandalize the guide stones, and then
Speaker 1: we'll talk about the theory surrounding who created it, because
Speaker 1: I think that's the real mystery here is who. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and I was I was gonna say, I know, there's
Speaker 1: a lot of stuff about who did it, and that
Speaker 1: I was hoping we're going to get into that because
Speaker 1: that's pretty interesting stuff and that's the only real mystery here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I agree with that, who that guy was and who
Speaker 1: he represented. Yeah, So obviously the biggest problem that a
Speaker 1: lot of people have with this is with that first
Speaker 1: commandment that keep the human population under million. That's going
Speaker 1: to be kind of hard to attain. Yeah, it actually,
Speaker 1: I guess that works out to h if you were
Speaker 1: going to do it by killing people, it works out
Speaker 1: to killing twelve of every thirteen person people the current
Speaker 1: population of the earth. So yeah, I guess to put
Speaker 1: it another way, it means that nobody would exist on
Speaker 1: this earth except for the population of India something we're
Speaker 1: gonna die. No. So this is the thing, right, is
Speaker 1: that a lot of people think that this means we
Speaker 1: need to call down humanity is what this is calling.
Speaker 1: And I've actually seen that in in charts and pie
Speaker 1: charts of people made that were illustrated based out there,
Speaker 1: like the call ratio. Yeah, and I think that's a
Speaker 1: really horrible misunderstanding of what the guide stones are meant
Speaker 1: to be. For um, the wonderful magazine Wired did an
Speaker 1: article on this, among you know, pretty much everybody has
Speaker 1: done an article on this, but you know, one of
Speaker 1: the things that they agree with me that and you know,
Speaker 1: most people kind of do that these guide stones are
Speaker 1: meant to their meant to last a really long time,
Speaker 1: and they're meant to help guide like a repopulation effort
Speaker 1: or rebuilding of building of civilization after a huge catastrophe,
Speaker 1: like an apocalypse situation of some sort um, so that
Speaker 1: you know, it's that you would rebuild your society and think, okay,
Speaker 1: well we're rebuilding, so we're going to try and do
Speaker 1: it right this time, at least according to this quote
Speaker 1: New World Order, So I the day's survivors crawling out
Speaker 1: from under the robo in Central Europe, for example, we
Speaker 1: need to send one pilgrim to Georgia. Yeah, I guess.
Speaker 1: Some people point to there's a guide book that goes
Speaker 1: along with the Georgia Guidestone, Georgia Guidebook, the Georgia Guidestone Guidebook.
Speaker 1: It's not a real it's not that's not a fake thing.
Speaker 1: It's a real thing. And I don't believe it was
Speaker 1: actually written by the people who drew up the specs
Speaker 1: and page for the stones. I thought I thought it
Speaker 1: was written by the company, right. Unclear on that. I
Speaker 1: got the feeling that it was written by whoever commissioned Christian. Yeah,
Speaker 1: commission did because of the stuff that's in it falls
Speaker 1: very much in line with the writings that are on
Speaker 1: the stone. Could be so it says, there's a little
Speaker 1: quote from here says it's difficult to seed wisdom inclosed
Speaker 1: human minds. Cultural inertias are not easily overcome. Unfolding world
Speaker 1: events and the sad record of our race dramatized the
Speaker 1: shortcomings of traditional agencies and government human affairs. The approaching
Speaker 1: crisis may make mankind willing to accept a system of
Speaker 1: world law, which will stress the responsibility of individual nations
Speaker 1: in regarding in regulating internal affairs which will assist them
Speaker 1: in peaceful management of international frictions. It's a little bit
Speaker 1: of a long quote there, sorry, but people kind of
Speaker 1: point to that in in trying to prove that they
Speaker 1: think that it should would be culling not a rebuilding.
Speaker 1: I think that's I still think it's bunk. I don't.
Speaker 1: I disagree. I think it's definitely not. Another one of
Speaker 1: the things that some people kind of have a problem
Speaker 1: with is the second one, which is the reproduced wisely
Speaker 1: improving diversity and fitness. And again I think that refers
Speaker 1: to repopulation, but some people kind of look at it
Speaker 1: as a pro eugenics message kind of yeah, and kind
Speaker 1: of regulating family units, you know, matching people up and
Speaker 1: kind of you know, my favorite, my favorite book is
Speaker 1: Enders Game, and in that a lot of times the
Speaker 1: parents are matched up based on genetic not diversity so much,
Speaker 1: but like what they can bring to the table. You know,
Speaker 1: both the parents are really really smart, you know, blow
Speaker 1: blah blah. They're going to be paired together. Stupider people
Speaker 1: are going to be paired together. Not not in the
Speaker 1: way that this would ask for, right that you want diversity,
Speaker 1: so you would just kind of try and bread the
Speaker 1: healthiest specimens possible. In Enter's game, of course, it's you know,
Speaker 1: trying to breed the smartest people possible. But that's something
Speaker 1: totally different. But people look at that and kind of
Speaker 1: think that that's the sort of thing that's going on,
Speaker 1: or that it's kind of going towards a like a
Speaker 1: China like childcap thing. Um well, let's let's face it.
Speaker 1: It's kind of vague. So the whole thing is kind
Speaker 1: of a reproduced wisely, could mean don't have too many kids.
Speaker 1: It could mean, you know, don't have sex with stupid people,
Speaker 1: or it could be it could be a call for
Speaker 1: governments to regulate who gets to have sex with who
Speaker 1: and have Also, I'm gonna be really offensive here and
Speaker 1: say it's in Georgia, so maybe it's like, don't sleep
Speaker 1: with your cousin because you never know. I mean, it
Speaker 1: could be that to maintain genetic diversity, which means don't
Speaker 1: breed in the same gene pool, which anybody who has
Speaker 1: grown up into in a rural community or a small town,
Speaker 1: everybody's related and that's an issue, and it's you know,
Speaker 1: I'm related to him, who's related her, who's related to him,
Speaker 1: And that's kind of a from a genet standpoint, not
Speaker 1: the best way to do it. Well, it's like an Iceland.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you guys know about this in Iceland, that
Speaker 1: there's a registry of who's related to who, and you
Speaker 1: can look up online. When you become interested in somebody,
Speaker 1: you look up online if you're related to that person
Speaker 1: or not. Because everybody's kind of didn't know that. You
Speaker 1: just nick you want to find out how closely related you. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so you you go to find out and apparently, like
Speaker 1: the young people are talking a lot about this because
Speaker 1: you you have to like actually be careful if you're
Speaker 1: going to accidentally breed with somebody that you didn't know
Speaker 1: that you were like only one or two steps removed.
Speaker 1: Oh jeez, you're welcome everyone the day Iceland because hey,
Speaker 1: anybody can breed with me. Yeah. So, anyways, nobody knows
Speaker 1: what that means. So what about three? What about three?
Speaker 1: Living new language? What a great idea like esperanto whatever?
Speaker 1: So well, are you done talking about number two? Do
Speaker 1: you want to? Yeah, that's like a uniting humanity with
Speaker 1: the new language. And which one is that? Which number three. No,
Speaker 1: what's the language you just referred to? Which one is that? Esperanto? Esperanto? Yeah,
Speaker 1: you've never heard of that. I may have. I don't
Speaker 1: know exactly when there was this call for a single
Speaker 1: common language, and I forget what it's when it started,
Speaker 1: like in the sixties or whatever. It sounds about right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and so somebody, somebody invented this language called Esperanto and
Speaker 1: they tried to push it. It It never caught on. It
Speaker 1: was spoken, Yeah, I was spoken and written, okay, because
Speaker 1: there was that one language that some guy tried to do.
Speaker 1: It was mostly like symbols for writing. That actually got
Speaker 1: really popular with um mentally disabled and deaf kids. There's
Speaker 1: any or radio about it. No, we were written language.
Speaker 1: Um that one doesn't ring a belt was symbolic and
Speaker 1: he like totally thought it was going to take off.
Speaker 1: And then it kind of hard to hard to make
Speaker 1: any language catch on. Small small trivia effect about Esperanto.
Speaker 1: There was a movie actually that was made that was
Speaker 1: done entirely in Esperanto. Oh no, if I recall the
Speaker 1: name of the movie. The name of the movie was
Speaker 1: The Incubus at a starred I guess who are you
Speaker 1: Jennifer brad Pitt, William Shatner. Of course, maybe that's why
Speaker 1: it didn't take off. He's memorizing his lines and then
Speaker 1: he's speaking them as he would in English, and then
Speaker 1: I went to the refrigerator. Yeah, so it's probably hard
Speaker 1: to be a good actor in your own language, much
Speaker 1: less one that you don't even know. Yeah, yeah, so
Speaker 1: I guess, But at that time, I think he was
Speaker 1: pretty hard up for work. Well, probably are any of
Speaker 1: the other commandments stick out to you that you think
Speaker 1: you want to talk about a little lot of stick
Speaker 1: out to me is kind of just like a little vague.
Speaker 1: They're kind of vague and kind of for me, like,
Speaker 1: it's hard to it's hard to argue with something like rule, passion, faith,
Speaker 1: tradition and all things. And I'll be honest, I'll probably
Speaker 1: wait to the end. I kind of have an overarching
Speaker 1: theory of what drives them all, but it's not specific
Speaker 1: to one. It's taking them as a group rather than
Speaker 1: an individual. Interesting, Okay, we'll definitely talk about that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's essentially though, they're just sort of like vague, little
Speaker 1: vague little things that you know, don't really mean a
Speaker 1: lot of themselves. You can't really run a country or
Speaker 1: world based on these rules. So there has been some vandalism.
Speaker 1: There wasn't any vandalism until really like which, yeah, it
Speaker 1: went like thirty years without any vandalism, and then suddenly
Speaker 1: there's just been this streak of vandalism. Um. Somebody through
Speaker 1: polyurethane on the stones and you can see like there's
Speaker 1: nothing you can do to gain the stone. And then
Speaker 1: lots of spray paint um and like a little like
Speaker 1: with sharpie, you know, people writing like H plus L
Speaker 1: equals love. You know, it's like dumb little things, but
Speaker 1: also like some bigger things. The spray paint you know.
Speaker 1: Some of them said it was something along the order
Speaker 1: of f your new world order, yeah, or like Jesus
Speaker 1: will win, like screw you evil, you know, you Satanists
Speaker 1: will never win. Really kind of if I if I'll
Speaker 1: be just completely candid here, this is very off base
Speaker 1: from what I get from what this sets, So I
Speaker 1: agree with that a little weird, yeah, you know, and
Speaker 1: it's like it's not exactly causing a ground swirl of evil.
Speaker 1: It's not like the forces of evil are sort of
Speaker 1: swirling around it. There was a coven of witches that
Speaker 1: decided that it was their home away from home and
Speaker 1: would be really pilgrimages. Yeah, but it's not like, you know,
Speaker 1: people aren't really worshiping them. It's not overflowing with people.
Speaker 1: You know, you can watch these YouTube videos of people
Speaker 1: going there and it's like completely abandoned. There's no one
Speaker 1: else's vacant. It's super I mean, you know, it's not
Speaker 1: like there's thousands of people flocking to the site, or
Speaker 1: even hundreds at a time, or even like ten. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The only time I've seen it is on Google Maps
Speaker 1: and there was one car parked in the parking area
Speaker 1: and it was probably the people taking the picture. Okay,
Speaker 1: but they did. Since the vandalism, they have they've cleaned
Speaker 1: it up a little bit and they've put security cameras
Speaker 1: and you know, posted science that say it's surveilled, and
Speaker 1: that seems to have cut down on it a little bit.
Speaker 1: I just I agree that the vandalism seems to be
Speaker 1: fairly off base. It's not I wouldn't say that it
Speaker 1: really touches on anything that really actually pertains to Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that I think that the vandalism is based
Speaker 1: on it's based on people's interpretations of writings that are
Speaker 1: trying to interpret what is written on the stone. So
Speaker 1: it's an interpretation of an interpretation of an interpretation. It's
Speaker 1: kind of like that telephone game you used to do
Speaker 1: when you were a kid, and I'd whisper something in
Speaker 1: your ear and you'd whisper to the next person. It
Speaker 1: changes every time, and so they take it as something
Speaker 1: completely different because it's just been morphed over these multiple writings,
Speaker 1: So what they're complaining about it doesn't really pertain to
Speaker 1: what's written there. But again that's just that's my perspective
Speaker 1: on it. Again, I still think it's off base. I've
Speaker 1: always thought that the paranoia over the whole new world,
Speaker 1: new world order thing has always been a kind of absurd,
Speaker 1: and and it's out there. I remember, like in It's
Speaker 1: in the late eighties, the first President Bush and this
Speaker 1: is after the follow the followed the Wall and followed
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. Then he was giving a speech, you know,
Speaker 1: talking about, well, you know, the whole bipolar East West
Speaker 1: world is kind of crumbled, and now I guess we're
Speaker 1: gonna have to have some sort of new world order
Speaker 1: because things are going to be different, and you know that,
Speaker 1: you know, the nutcases, just one one, all crazy over
Speaker 1: that world. Yeah again, it's gonna be one world government.
Speaker 1: You're gonna take take over everything and hurt us in
Speaker 1: the camps and yeah yeah, well so I guess you
Speaker 1: can also kind of look at what's going on in
Speaker 1: this period in America's history. In two thousand and eight,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously Obama was elected for the
Speaker 1: first time, and I think that set some people off
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think, so, I think a little bit.
Speaker 1: You know, you're kind of already outraged and think that
Speaker 1: this like New World Orders is a threat, and you
Speaker 1: you know, think, well, Obama is a terrorist, and like
Speaker 1: he's probably part of this new world organization too, and
Speaker 1: the New World Order paranoids are usually lefties who are
Speaker 1: considered convinced that it's going to be some sort of
Speaker 1: right wing corporate sort of financed Sometimes. I found this
Speaker 1: quote that talks about America's leading billionaires that meet secretly
Speaker 1: to consider how their wealth could be used to slow
Speaker 1: the growth of the world's population. So, and it listed
Speaker 1: philanthropists like Bill Gates, Um and Oprah Winfrey, Yeah, Ted Turner,
Speaker 1: Michael Bloomberg, Warren Buffett. So you know, kind of people
Speaker 1: who are Obama supporters, who are more left wing liberal people.
Speaker 1: So I guess there's there is that theory out there
Speaker 1: that like people who are kind of more left wing
Speaker 1: are also trying to So it's you know, I think
Speaker 1: that it can go both ways. Yeah. They really the
Speaker 1: whole thing about slowing world population is it's slowing out
Speaker 1: its own I mean, these guys are so well informed.
Speaker 1: That's one thing that really need to worry about. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's true. So we've talked about a little bit some
Speaker 1: of the interpretations of some of the more problematic ones.
Speaker 1: I guess we'll talk about who commissioned it. We know
Speaker 1: made it. It was the Pyramid Granite Company UM, which
Speaker 1: is headquartered out of the right, like thirty miles away,
Speaker 1: ten miles away. They're in Albert County. Yeah, they're in
Speaker 1: Albert County. So they made it. Everybody they were contracted
Speaker 1: to make they were contracted to make it. It was
Speaker 1: an interesting story too, because I mean they had a
Speaker 1: quarry that they got most of their grantited from, but
Speaker 1: they had never quarried a stone as big as these. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of kind of speculation with like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: Albert County is where the Indians believed the center of
Speaker 1: the universe. Well, you know, the guide stones are placed within,
Speaker 1: you know, five miles of where the Native Americans thought,
Speaker 1: so at the center of the universe was blah blah
Speaker 1: blah Americans. No. And also it's you know, ten miles
Speaker 1: from the quarry. And it cost a lot of money
Speaker 1: to ship that much granite someplace. And so I think
Speaker 1: four places available when this was being made that were
Speaker 1: available for sale. Yeah, this one Christian paid five thousand
Speaker 1: dollars for so it wasn't that much money. And you know,
Speaker 1: it was close enough that it wasn't going to cost
Speaker 1: a fortune to ship these jar large stones anywhere. So
Speaker 1: I think a part of that is a little bit
Speaker 1: of convenience. So just go ahead and yeah, call that
Speaker 1: spade a serious spade. So I guess the first theory
Speaker 1: I want to talk about is they were Freemasons. Yeah,
Speaker 1: could be splash rose rosa cree sans is a word
Speaker 1: that I cannot hardly say. Apparently they are kind of
Speaker 1: one and the same, but different people refer to them
Speaker 1: as different things. Rosa cruise, yes, is a kind of
Speaker 1: a predecessor to what we call freemasonry today. Apparently, this
Speaker 1: theory posits that r C is short for rose and cross,
Speaker 1: which was the symbology attached to rosa, thank you, so
Speaker 1: sorry everyone, and then they've since evolved into freemasonry. It's
Speaker 1: a reference to the little phrase that are that's on
Speaker 1: the tablet kind of yeah, on the capstone, and then
Speaker 1: it's written on the tablet as well that says, let
Speaker 1: these be guidestones to an age of reason, which echoes
Speaker 1: this book and kind of just the thinking in general
Speaker 1: of Thomas pain very yeah, eighteenth century freemason. Apparently he
Speaker 1: was actually a freemason. We have proof that he was
Speaker 1: a freemason. Didn't you totally read his book? Right? No?
Speaker 1: I didn't. I have to be honest with you. I
Speaker 1: didn't because first of all, why and second of all,
Speaker 1: I didn't chase the freemasonry thing very far down the
Speaker 1: rabbit hole because it just is a giant rabbit hole.
Speaker 1: That's kind of a speculative thing, as is ROSA. Yes,
Speaker 1: I guess the thought is the eight languages. This also
Speaker 1: kind of wraps into this theory the eight languages that
Speaker 1: are used on the faces of the guide stones for
Speaker 1: the twelve As we kind of said, some of them
Speaker 1: are very popular languages. However, a lot of Hebrew and
Speaker 1: Swahaly specifically aren't even in the top fifty languages spoken
Speaker 1: in the world, so people kind of wonder why those
Speaker 1: are there instead of things like Cantonese, French, German, Vienomese, Italian. Apparently,
Speaker 1: the inclusion of Hebrew suggests conspiracy theory. To conspiracy theorists
Speaker 1: that the Zionist New World Orders response, it's always, you know,
Speaker 1: comes some kind of Zionist organizations. Again, these all kind
Speaker 1: of like overlap with each other, this one and rose
Speaker 1: a Crustianism. Yeah, I'm getting it, and then the New
Speaker 1: World Order, they all kind of overlapped with each other.
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I still I find it strange. I mean,
Speaker 1: I understand the writings of Thomas Paine, and I can
Speaker 1: see how all right, well, what he wrote seems to
Speaker 1: kind of be echoed in the ten inscriptions from the
Speaker 1: Guide Stones. But then to go into the rose Crucianism
Speaker 1: bid because the rose Crucians were I mean, they weren't
Speaker 1: historically speaking, they were around very long. They were around
Speaker 1: in late Evil Germany, right, and they put out pamphlets
Speaker 1: and they claimed to understand the esoteric truths about nature,
Speaker 1: the universe, and the spiritual realms that have been concealed
Speaker 1: from ordinary people. And then they disappeared. Yeah okay, well
Speaker 1: according to the conspiracy theories, because they went underground, Pat,
Speaker 1: how do you how do you know the New World
Speaker 1: Order clan didn't kill them? Yeah? Man, yeah, okay, bigger
Speaker 1: than you think. Man. The only thing I'll add to
Speaker 1: the Rosa Crucianism theory is that apparently, uh, the fourteenth
Speaker 1: century Fround founder of Rosicruciansmusicrucianism, was a man first identified
Speaker 1: as front Hair CRC and later became Christian Rosenkrunz. And
Speaker 1: they think that r C. Christian is a nod to
Speaker 1: that somehow. I think it's a kind of bunk. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it's it's a weak tie. Yeah I found this, So
Speaker 1: let's just say that's it. Yeah Alrightmas. Freemason's next is
Speaker 1: the New World Order? Well, I was Freemasons and Rosencrancianism
Speaker 1: kind of rosen crucian Is. I just keep wanting to
Speaker 1: say Rosencrants. That's so you know that that's that whole
Speaker 1: theater background. So those are kind of mushed into one
Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of you can't. You can't unmix
Speaker 1: those two, can't. New World Order. Mark Dice is an
Speaker 1: author of a book called The Resistance Manifesto in two
Speaker 1: thousand five under the pseudonym John Connor. No, not that
Speaker 1: John Connor, terminator, killing Connor, Yeah, defeating Connor. Yeahous, keep going,
Speaker 1: keep going, Okay. He uh demanded that the guidestones be
Speaker 1: quote smashed into a million pieces. He thinks that the
Speaker 1: monument has a deep Satanic origin. Maybe kind of the
Speaker 1: impetus for this, the the graffiti that was happening. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because his stuff would have come out just a couple
Speaker 1: of years before the graffiti, so it could have started
Speaker 1: to gain traction. Yeah, that makes sense. So according to Dice,
Speaker 1: slash Connor Christian call him please, he's John Connor, please ARSI.
Speaker 1: Christian was probably a high ranking member of a quote
Speaker 1: Luciferian secret society. Is that how you would say that
Speaker 1: lucifer secret society based on Lucifer Okay, at the forefront
Speaker 1: of the New World Order, Yes, quote, the elite are
Speaker 1: planning to develop successful life extension technology in the next
Speaker 1: few decades that will nearly stop the aging process, and
Speaker 1: they fear that with the current population of Earth so high,
Speaker 1: the masses will be using resources that the elite want
Speaker 1: for themselves. Actually, the masses will be using resources that
Speaker 1: the elite will be selling them. So I think at
Speaker 1: least will be just five with that, This goes on
Speaker 1: to get a little crazier quote. The guidestones are the
Speaker 1: New World Orders ten Commandments. They're also away for the
Speaker 1: elite to get a laugh at the expense of unafformed
Speaker 1: masses as their agenda stands clear as day and the
Speaker 1: zombies don't even notice it. Their agenda. Well, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say these elites again, you talked about there was
Speaker 1: Microsoft founder Bill Gates, and I can't remember who the
Speaker 1: other there was. So they're they're saying, these elites are
Speaker 1: going to stop the aging process and they're not going
Speaker 1: to age anymore, so the live forever. So they don't
Speaker 1: want the peons using up all the good stuff that
Speaker 1: they're going to need a thousand years in the future
Speaker 1: to die, and the elite to be the only ones
Speaker 1: that are left, and they'll stop aging and they'll be
Speaker 1: able to create a new Old Order because they'll never die.
Speaker 1: But if they're elite, they're probably gonna want some of
Speaker 1: those lower echelons to I don't know, be farming their food.
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know that the conspiracy theorists go
Speaker 1: that far. And I think maybe the assumption is robots.
Speaker 1: I mean, John Connor would know about robots, and we
Speaker 1: saw how well that worked. Yeah, well, there's another kind
Speaker 1: of absurd point here. So they're planning to develop successful
Speaker 1: life extension technology. Well, you can't really plan medical breakthroughs
Speaker 1: two decades from now. That's just simply you know it's
Speaker 1: going to happen or not. You really don't have any
Speaker 1: control over. Also, we'll go ahead and point out the
Speaker 1: fact that that would happen next year sometime in the
Speaker 1: next decade. Is I've actually been making a lot of
Speaker 1: advances and aging research. No, nothing to slow it down yet.
Speaker 1: But sing young mice to old mice, Yeah that works apparently.
Speaker 1: So oh, the injection of young blood into old mices
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It wasn't injections. They suddenly I was.
Speaker 1: I was talking about. I saw something where they took
Speaker 1: the blood of young mice and put it into old
Speaker 1: mice and like, whoa, I'm two weeks old again. That
Speaker 1: was the next step to so old people have to
Speaker 1: go out and bag of a young one in the
Speaker 1: going to the clinic was so I'm not coming over
Speaker 1: here anymore. Um, so can we move on to the
Speaker 1: next theory, some more rational stuff. I guess it's not
Speaker 1: so much of a theory as it is a revelation.
Speaker 1: I know Joe really likes this part of it because
Speaker 1: he emailed me like twenty times this week and it
Speaker 1: is like, but did you read that? Did you read
Speaker 1: the article? Did you read that thing? Essentially read that
Speaker 1: thing I sent you? Did you read it? Did you
Speaker 1: read it interesting? Did you read it? Did you read it? Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's got a lot of biological or biographical or starting
Speaker 1: it's got a lot about the history of R. C.
Speaker 1: Christians relationship with a local banker. Yeah, it was actually
Speaker 1: his liaison for the whole thing. So there's two people.
Speaker 1: And why didn't you email this to me? Uh, jerk,
Speaker 1: you wanted to keep me. I I get it. I'm
Speaker 1: a mushroom. It's okay. I figured that. I figured that Chris.
Speaker 1: If I figured that if Devin wanted to use it,
Speaker 1: then she would go ahead and send a copy to
Speaker 1: you too. I just basically sent it to hear it said,
Speaker 1: have you seen this? What is this? Because this is
Speaker 1: obviously going to be new to me. It is gonna
Speaker 1: be so we have to go a little into the
Speaker 1: backstory again, this story makes sense. So this is before
Speaker 1: everything gets built and directed. Yes, okay, so I've titled
Speaker 1: this theory White Martin knows because he's he's the only
Speaker 1: one who actually does he actually does know. White Martin
Speaker 1: was a very important person at the Albergin Bank. You know,
Speaker 1: I can't remember if he was the manager or the
Speaker 1: president or but he was. He was. He was the
Speaker 1: man who made the decisions. Yes, he was involved in
Speaker 1: the day to move on top of the whole thing.
Speaker 1: He was he did deal with actually granting loans and
Speaker 1: things like that. And Joe Friendly friendly and I'm not
Speaker 1: pronouncing the end. It's fine company. Alberton Granite was approached
Speaker 1: by this man apparently an elegant gray fellow. Not not
Speaker 1: his skin, his hair. Yeah, let's not go there. Even
Speaker 1: I would like to order some great whacking pieces of
Speaker 1: who was. He was well dressed and spoke eloquently and
Speaker 1: was very educated and he ARSI Christian approached Joe Fendley,
Speaker 1: there's the end, asking him kind of outlying his project,
Speaker 1: did the Georgia guide Stone, and you know, said that
Speaker 1: he represented a small group of concerned American citizens and
Speaker 1: these were kind of his parameters. And Fendley said, this
Speaker 1: guy's crazy. We've never mind anything mind Corey, never Corey.
Speaker 1: We've never coreried anything even half the size of what
Speaker 1: he's asking for. I don't know if we're going to
Speaker 1: be able to do this, but I guess if he's
Speaker 1: going to give us the money, we'll try. What the heck? Yeah,
Speaker 1: that makes sense, okay, arc Christian goes over to the bank.
Speaker 1: Friendly takes him over to the bank. He's friends with
Speaker 1: Wyatt Martin. I don't think I think it just just
Speaker 1: told him, you know, Wendell Martin at the bank. You know,
Speaker 1: I sent him over the wat Yeah, I don't know
Speaker 1: if he sent him over there. He walked him over there.
Speaker 1: It's you know, a little unclear. This is a while ago.
Speaker 1: And he says, Okay, we'll talk to Whyatt Martin and
Speaker 1: see if you can get you know, a line of credit,
Speaker 1: if you can get the money or anything like that.
Speaker 1: And if you can get the money, well, you know,
Speaker 1: i'd be crazy to say no to the thousand dollars
Speaker 1: or whatever. He's all kinds of money, yeah, lots and
Speaker 1: lots of money. So Christian goes over to talk to
Speaker 1: Martin at the bank. At the bank and Martin says, okay,
Speaker 1: well who you know, who are you? What do you
Speaker 1: want to kind of you know, just takes him through
Speaker 1: it again. ARC Christian does, and arc Christian openly admits, okay,
Speaker 1: well R. C. Christian isn't my real name is a
Speaker 1: pseudonym and I'll never reveal to you my true identity.
Speaker 1: Of course, this is the problem from Martin. Yeah, because
Speaker 1: this guy's thinking, well, we want you to do this
Speaker 1: thing to me really expensive, but you know who I am.
Speaker 1: But he wasn't asking for a loan. He just wanted
Speaker 1: banking services, basically. Yeah, he wasn't asking for a loan,
Speaker 1: you know. He said, I'm good for it. You can
Speaker 1: get the money transferred from my bank. Here's the account
Speaker 1: information or whatever. I think. He ended up making deposits
Speaker 1: in lots of banks around the country and then having
Speaker 1: them wired directly to Martin's bank. But essentially Martin said, okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I need to think about this, so
Speaker 1: come back on Monday we'll talk about it. So I'll
Speaker 1: read Christian came back to the bank Monday. Martin explained
Speaker 1: that he could not proceed unless he could verify the
Speaker 1: man's true identity and quote get some assurance that you
Speaker 1: can pay for this thing. Eventually, the to negotiated an
Speaker 1: agreement Christian would reveal his real name on the condition
Speaker 1: that Martin promised to serve his soul as his soul intermediary,
Speaker 1: sign a confidentiality agreement pledging to never disclose the information
Speaker 1: to another soul, and agreed to destroy all documents and
Speaker 1: records related to the project when he was finished. That's
Speaker 1: kind of counter to what banks like to do. Yes,
Speaker 1: but again, there's a lot of money. And I guess
Speaker 1: I haven't mentioned yet that Alberton's soul huge industry is
Speaker 1: the granite Yeah, that's that's that's what they do now.
Speaker 1: The big industry is the Georgia guidestones. Yeah, so I
Speaker 1: don't know. I assume that it's late eighties, people aren't
Speaker 1: buying huge bulk things of grant. Point. Here, this man
Speaker 1: comes in and says, I'm going to give you guys
Speaker 1: a crap ton of money to do this project. Me.
Speaker 1: You know, I can assume that it would be hard
Speaker 1: to turn him down on that. Yeah, probably. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: Martin White Martin, he's alive today. He's seventy eight years well,
Speaker 1: I guess he was seventy season is his eighties. He
Speaker 1: is alive, and he to this day has still not
Speaker 1: disclosed any information about Arc Christian. Arc Christian, for his part,
Speaker 1: hasn't been heard of since a roughly on the turn
Speaker 1: of the turn of the millennium. About this, yeah, roughly
Speaker 1: around nine eleven. They apparently would write letters back and forth.
Speaker 1: They were they head correspondence um. Martin says that every
Speaker 1: single time a letter came to him, it came from
Speaker 1: a different place. He never sent letters from the same city.
Speaker 1: They corresponded for years, So for years they apparently became
Speaker 1: kind of good friends. And Martin again, for his part,
Speaker 1: gets really upset when he hears all of these kind
Speaker 1: of Satanists, new World Order, freemason theories, because, you know,
Speaker 1: he kind of says, I don't know, but I had
Speaker 1: correspondence with this man for a long time, and he
Speaker 1: didn't strike me as that kind of person. He struck
Speaker 1: me as a really truly good man who was just
Speaker 1: a little concerned about the future of America, the state
Speaker 1: of things, state of things? Yeah, who's not so any
Speaker 1: way that Yeah, back to that time, and then he
Speaker 1: goes and sees friendly again with that little model. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he brings a little model in a shoebox model of
Speaker 1: what he made, huh, and gives it to him and
Speaker 1: you know, pays them and a bunch of specs along
Speaker 1: with that. Ye, And that's kind of the story. So
Speaker 1: the banker is the only one who has any concrete
Speaker 1: information of who the guy really was, and he's not
Speaker 1: festen Up. Yeah, that was holding true to his word
Speaker 1: and not he is. The only thing that he didn't
Speaker 1: follow is that he's still as of the last time
Speaker 1: anybody interviewed him, he still had all the documents, including R. C.
Speaker 1: Christian's true identity, but he wasn't showing he wasn't. No,
Speaker 1: I'm scrolled away. He thought he would maybe write a book,
Speaker 1: but he probably you know, I don't think he ever.
Speaker 1: He never really got around to it. So I guess
Speaker 1: it's totally possible that, you know, upon this death, I
Speaker 1: don't know how true to this promise his family may
Speaker 1: end up being or anything like that, but I guess
Speaker 1: it's possible that one and why it Martin dies, they'll
Speaker 1: release the documents and will know possibly for sure, or
Speaker 1: they might not, or maybe he'll dispose of them before
Speaker 1: he dies. Yeah, or he might put in his will
Speaker 1: that they should be buried with him or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they'll be putting a time capsule under the Georgia night Stone. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Actually he should put in his will if they should
Speaker 1: be like burned and then don't put him in Yeah.
Speaker 1: Not a good idea in retrospect. So the the one
Speaker 1: other theory, which I honestly kind of like, is that
Speaker 1: Martin and Fendley just did it together. Doubt it. The
Speaker 1: RCI Christian isn't a real person that they kind of
Speaker 1: concocted this story. Martin financed it. Findley was trying to
Speaker 1: promote more granted us the business, the business, you know.
Speaker 1: They thought, this will really this weird mystery, will promote
Speaker 1: people buying granted things, will promote interest in the area
Speaker 1: tourists and tourists. And this was the late seventies. Things
Speaker 1: were really in the Dulgrums economically speaking. Yeah, and if
Speaker 1: Fendly was his friend, then his business was like kind
Speaker 1: of teatering from Martin. They wanted to like throw a
Speaker 1: huge amount of business this way, and this would be
Speaker 1: a lot of business. Yeah, and that you could say,
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was this weird secret person that nobody
Speaker 1: else recalls seeing around town. You know, it's a small town.
Speaker 1: Nobody really recalls seeing this man around town. It was
Speaker 1: this big, mysterious project that took a year to complete.
Speaker 1: It got a lot of workers working. It got a
Speaker 1: lot of people doing a lot of stuff. I heard
Speaker 1: they hired translators from the U n To translate the
Speaker 1: English myth message and all the other languages. They don't
Speaker 1: know about that they may have. I know that they
Speaker 1: brought they had to bring in special equipment from all
Speaker 1: around the country to cut the edges and of the
Speaker 1: stone and stuff like that. So it was this big project.
Speaker 1: So there is a little bit of a theory out
Speaker 1: there that it was just these two guys. They decided
Speaker 1: to concoct the story of this weird, mysterious pseudonyms man
Speaker 1: business to drum up business and tourism in the area.
Speaker 1: Could be probably drummed a business, But I don't know
Speaker 1: about tourism. Yeah, I don't know about They could be
Speaker 1: they were just out in the woods smoking or joint
Speaker 1: and they witnessed the witness to drug deal gone bad
Speaker 1: and this this is there's a big shootout. Both bandidos
Speaker 1: die and they walk over and there's this big suitcase
Speaker 1: full of cash land there and they decided to make
Speaker 1: the guide stones instead of dude, man, wow, this is
Speaker 1: this is really wild. Man. What do you want to
Speaker 1: do with the money? Stone? Hitch man? Dude man, wow,
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Yeah? I think that's
Speaker 1: probably exactly what They's the iconic phrase from today, the
Speaker 1: oh you have a theory? Oh I think yeah too,
Speaker 1: But go ahead, okay, now, okay, So we're not gonna know.
Speaker 1: I don't think who R. C. Christian was. That's probably true.
Speaker 1: But but the big mystery is is who is his shadow,
Speaker 1: shadowy cabal of people that financed him, Who was employers?
Speaker 1: And I have the answer to that. Oh yes, a
Speaker 1: very rich guy who lives in Georgia and who has
Speaker 1: who thinks and says kind of wooly headed stuff like this,
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about and I'm holding up the commandments
Speaker 1: in front of the microphone here because everybody can read
Speaker 1: him that way exactly. Uh. And so this person is
Speaker 1: Ted Turner. He is the guy. It's not a it's
Speaker 1: not a group of Americans. That was just a subtract.
Speaker 1: Use to say it was a group. It's just Ted.
Speaker 1: So that's your entire theories. You're pointing it to Ted. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm standing. But how old was Ted then? I don't know.
Speaker 1: He was born in Yeah, yeah he was. He was
Speaker 1: already fairly wealthy by that time, and not nearly as
Speaker 1: wealth easy as today. But he has some books, Okay,
Speaker 1: Ted Turner theory. Okay, Well, No. The thing that really
Speaker 1: irks me about this whole story is when people go
Speaker 1: off on the Freemasons and the New World Order and
Speaker 1: all of this stuff and spazzing out over what what
Speaker 1: it means when I looked at it when I first
Speaker 1: read this, and I've I've kind of held this viewpoint
Speaker 1: the whole time this was made. This thing had to
Speaker 1: be designed in the late seventies, which means somebody was
Speaker 1: thinking about this probably in the early to mid seventies,
Speaker 1: which is, you know, this isn't a time of turmoil
Speaker 1: and and love and we should be good to one another,
Speaker 1: and there's all these these social values that are people
Speaker 1: are trying to put out there from kind of the
Speaker 1: hippie era. Uh sure, And I get the feeling that
Speaker 1: this is just this is kind of a bunch of
Speaker 1: wealthy hippies almost like be good to the earth man,
Speaker 1: don't have too many kids manically, Yeah, I don't, don't
Speaker 1: kill things man like the planet. And that's what we're saying.
Speaker 1: But we just wrote it in this fancy way because
Speaker 1: we had a thesaurus. Man Like, that's really just what
Speaker 1: I feel like it is. Is Is this a bunch of
Speaker 1: guys feel like we just think that you should do
Speaker 1: these things to be good? And then everybody just went
Speaker 1: completely off the rails and hung a serious turn in
Speaker 1: Albuquerque and have just cap going down that path when
Speaker 1: the whole thing to me is just be good to
Speaker 1: each other and be good to the planet and end
Speaker 1: to be okay, be excellent, dude. Exactly when I get
Speaker 1: rich enough, I'm gonna have one put up and it's
Speaker 1: gonna have stuff like like you know, like I'd like
Speaker 1: to buy the world a coke stuff sprinkles and sprinkles.
Speaker 1: I'd like to buy the World of co could be
Speaker 1: number seven, and then number it will be Synergy. No. Yeah,
Speaker 1: well if we see that pop up anywhere where, Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's mine. I don't know. I mean, you're you're kind
Speaker 1: of likeing the idea that it was just those two.
Speaker 1: I kind of do. Yeah, it seems like the most
Speaker 1: reasonable to me. I don't know financial history of Wyatt Martin.
Speaker 1: I don't know if he actually had access to that
Speaker 1: kind of money. I doubt that he was stinking rich
Speaker 1: enough to do that, I don't think so. I don't
Speaker 1: know if there's some unfinished embezzling charges against anyone, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't really know the story there, but I kind
Speaker 1: of like that well, and it could have been, actually,
Speaker 1: it could have been that he knew the whole group
Speaker 1: and they were actually wealthy people from Elbert County, which
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a backwater. It's in way
Speaker 1: north Way, North Georgia, by the South Carolina border and
Speaker 1: kind of off the beaten path. And now that they
Speaker 1: have the the Georgia Guidestone there, it's now on a
Speaker 1: beaten path. It's got a major, serious, world famous tourist
Speaker 1: attraction in it now. Yeah, so I could picture some
Speaker 1: county elders getting together and just approaching Martin and just saying, hey, look,
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, but we're gonna do it on
Speaker 1: the sly create some mystery, will to create even more
Speaker 1: buzz and and even more interest and uh and so
Speaker 1: you'll never you know, nobody get to know who we are. Well,
Speaker 1: because that that does ask her one serious question, which
Speaker 1: is why Albert County, Georgia. Not that I'm putting down
Speaker 1: Elbert County, but of all the places to put this thing,
Speaker 1: Albert County, Georgia is the granite capital of America. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but there's other granite places. Yeah, but it was probably
Speaker 1: the cheapest there. Well, I'm sure it was cheapest. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: So I know that's just the possible that the last
Speaker 1: thing you want to do was go to the second
Speaker 1: cheapest guy and find out he can't corey it big enough,
Speaker 1: and suddenly you've got a monument that's in danger of
Speaker 1: being crushed by elves. We're going back to that, and
Speaker 1: we're going back to that analogy back. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,
Speaker 1: So anyway asked, My thoughts is that if you're going
Speaker 1: to build it, we want to build a tourist attraction.
Speaker 1: It's going to be called American Stonehenge. And well, if
Speaker 1: people know that it's just a fake that you built
Speaker 1: just to draw tourists, and that's not going to have
Speaker 1: any any sort of draw whatsoever. Where The big mistake there,
Speaker 1: of course, is that there is an American stonehenge, and
Speaker 1: it is it's in Washington Mary Hill. Yeah, it's in
Speaker 1: Merry Hill. Yeah. When was that built? The early twentieth century.
Speaker 1: I'm going to agree with that, the early century. Okay, Yeah,
Speaker 1: well this was a listener suggestion. Who was our listener?
Speaker 1: It was from a guy named Chandler. Chandler, thank you,
Speaker 1: very cool story, good idea. You know, I don't remember
Speaker 1: having come across this one in the past, so can't
Speaker 1: be true. You know, I probably have, but I just
Speaker 1: don't remember it. So I'm no. I'm glad that to
Speaker 1: us because I wouldn't have thought to pick it up. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't have either. I don't know why though.
Speaker 1: You know, another one of those we talked about this
Speaker 1: sometimes where we've known about these unsolved mysteries for a
Speaker 1: long time and we don't think about it until somebody says, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys should do this mystery, and we're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: we should do that. Yea, that mystery. I love that mystery. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I was. I had actually heard about this quite a
Speaker 1: while back and then forgotten about it. Right, No, I
Speaker 1: had forgotten about It's on my list of possibilities, but
Speaker 1: I just never got around. I guess I thought it
Speaker 1: was really pretty lame. Well, really enjoyed this story. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so the pictures or the drawing for sure, and maybe
Speaker 1: another picture too, yeah, probably. But the links will also
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Speaker 1: think that's solid. Yeah, all the different electric avenues. So yeah,
Speaker 1: another another week, another mystery solved. Oh we solved this one,
Speaker 1: did we, Ted Turner, Oh, I see I didn't realize. Well,
Speaker 1: I guess we'll get on out of here then. Alright
Speaker 1: to lou folks. Talk to you guys this week. Hi, guys,