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Speaker 1: Thinking Sideways. I don't you never know stories of things

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Speaker 1: we simply don't know the answer too. Hey, everybody, welcome

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Speaker 1: to the Thinking Sideways the podcast. I'm Devin, joined as

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Speaker 1: always by Joe and Steve. I like that we have

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Speaker 1: to say the end. Yes, Yes, we're gonna do a

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Speaker 1: big old mystery. It's just a big old mystery. It's

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Speaker 1: very sistinct. This is very sistinct. We're gonna talk about

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Speaker 1: the Georgia Guidestones today, which many of you may have

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Speaker 1: heard of it. You've probably you've heard of them. Um,

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Speaker 1: they're a granite monolithic monument. They it, it's it. I

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Speaker 1: think it's an it because it's several, but they're assembled

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Speaker 1: into an it. It's like they don't say it's a

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Speaker 1: single stonehenge, it's it's stonehenge. Well I don't know, now,

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Speaker 1: I just stonehenge, but that it. But it's guide stones.

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, there's a there's a bunch of them,

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Speaker 1: not just one. So this the granite monument is in

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Speaker 1: um Elbert County in Georgia, in the United States of America.

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Speaker 1: I guess we'll start with a description of what it

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Speaker 1: looks like. It's probably a good place to start, of course,

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Speaker 1: pictures on the website absolutely, and nifty drawing too. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: we're definitely gonna put that drawing up because I think

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Speaker 1: it's the best way, most descriptive way. It'll help you

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Speaker 1: understand some of these bizarre things that we're going to describe. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Um So, as Steve was kind of alluding to often,

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Speaker 1: this is called the American Stonehenge. Yeah. It's about nineteen

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Speaker 1: feet and three inches tall, which for our non American

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Speaker 1: listeners is five point eight seven ms. Okay, that's that's

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Speaker 1: kind of right. I believe that conversion. I'm really good

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Speaker 1: at conversions, so it's obviously right. And one of our

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Speaker 1: listeners go out to the web. Yeah, it's six granite

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Speaker 1: slabs that weigh two hundred and thirty seven thousand, seven

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Speaker 1: hundred and forty six pounds collectively, not each, Yeah, which

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Speaker 1: is huge, bigger somehow it's very small, but it weighs

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Speaker 1: a lot of a lot. Is that what was that

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Speaker 1: movie where they had the miniature Stonehenge? Are you talking

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Speaker 1: about Spinal Tap? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, that's what this makes

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Speaker 1: me think of. Man, I don't you don't remember that

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Speaker 1: in Spinal Tap? When we're going to have a huge

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Speaker 1: stonehand on stage and then they lower it. It's about

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Speaker 1: eight inches tall and they have little people dancing around

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Speaker 1: and they're all upset. It was in danger of being

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Speaker 1: crushed by little people there. They drew it all up.

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Speaker 1: But instead of that, they put the dimensions in inches

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Speaker 1: instead the feet. An easy mistake to make. So this

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Speaker 1: is not the one from Spinal Town. No, No, it's huge,

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Speaker 1: looks a lot different. It does look different. It's only stonehenge.

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Speaker 1: Ask in that it is monolithic stone and it's made

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Speaker 1: of it's made of big as rocks, yeah, really big rocks. However,

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Speaker 1: this one was made in the century, sorry, really late seventies.

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Speaker 1: It was revealed in just to dispel any kind of

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Speaker 1: weird We know how it was built, don't worry. There

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Speaker 1: are five slabs that are astrolan astronomically aligned. Well there's five,

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Speaker 1: there's four. It's the skinny one in the center that's

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Speaker 1: not really aligned with anything. Well, it's line. It's a

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Speaker 1: line with the North Star. Yeah, so part of I

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Speaker 1: guess you could say that's astronomically yeah. And then there's

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Speaker 1: a capstone. So there are five that are the full

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Speaker 1: nineteen ft tall. There's a yeah, and then there's a

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Speaker 1: smaller cap stone on the top, which is still you know,

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Speaker 1: big enough to crush your car. Shy normous. Yeah, there's

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Speaker 1: a stone tablet that was set in the ground kind

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Speaker 1: of west of the structure that provides notes and history

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Speaker 1: and a bit about the purpose of the guide stones.

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Speaker 1: So on the four stones that Joe was arguing with

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Speaker 1: me about, just the four bigger that are aligned, I

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Speaker 1: believe they're aligned north, south, east, west, the northeast, southeast,

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Speaker 1: but they're all you know, aligned there in an ex battern.

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Speaker 1: And on each side of those is an inscription. It's

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Speaker 1: the same inscription on every side, but it's in eight

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Speaker 1: different languages. Yes, English, Spanish, Swahili, Hindu, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese,

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Speaker 1: spoken languages, but some of them aren't. Not a bit

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Speaker 1: of a mystery. And it's ten kind of new World commandments,

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Speaker 1: if you will, carved into these New Age. Yeah, they

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Speaker 1: refer to them as New World commandments, new World Order commandments,

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Speaker 1: And one. Maintain humanity under five hundred million in perpetual

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Speaker 1: So that's the ten commandments. And then on the cap stone.

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Speaker 1: Can we repeat that in the other languages? No, I

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Speaker 1: mean if you can, if you speak all those languages,

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Speaker 1: you totally can. Y. Yeah, So there's a shorter message

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Speaker 1: on the cap stone. It's on the four different sides

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Speaker 1: of the cap stone, you know, because the cap stone

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Speaker 1: is leading flat, right, So it's on the small edges

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Speaker 1: So it's on the like the raw edges, not the

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Speaker 1: says the Georgia Guystones Center Cluster, erected to March twenty two,

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty UM. And then below that there's a there's

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Speaker 1: an outline of a square inside which is written, let

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Speaker 1: these be guide stones to an age of reason. So

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Speaker 1: that's guess. I don't know, you can keep describing, and

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Speaker 1: there's more stuff to talk about with the astronomical astronomical features.

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Speaker 1: Astronomical features, there's three main ones and they are laid

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Speaker 1: It's the granite stone that's placed kind of to the

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Speaker 1: it outlines the astronomical features and a little bit more information.

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Speaker 1: it's it's almost the infinity loop. So is that etched

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Speaker 1: And and we've seen a bunch of illustrations that are

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Speaker 1: and then not have any way for somebody to reference.

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Speaker 1: It makes sure on the stone it says R. C. Christian,

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Speaker 1: it's a pseudonym. Stop it. You don't have to like

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Speaker 1: it's actually you look at pictures and it's actually inscribed there.

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Speaker 1: So below that it says sponsors a small group of

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Speaker 1: that it says time capsule. Sorry, time capsule place placed

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Speaker 1: on blank. There was a little aside. Treasure hunters are

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Speaker 1: generally like really, they're like, oh man, there's a time

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Speaker 1: when it's supposed to be open. Well, it turns out

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Speaker 1: It was supposed to be you know, like local fourth

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Speaker 1: as far as anybody knows, that never actually happened. It

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Speaker 1: you know, dig down. So treasure hunters have gone and

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Speaker 1: swirling around it. There was a coven of witches that

422
00:26:03,880 --> 00:26:05,760
Speaker 1: decided that it was their home away from home and

423
00:26:05,760 --> 00:26:11,840
Speaker 1: would be really pilgrimages. Yeah, but it's not like, you know,

424
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:16,160
Speaker 1: people aren't really worshiping them. It's not overflowing with people.

425
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: You know, you can watch these YouTube videos of people

426
00:26:19,640 --> 00:26:23,239
Speaker 1: going there and it's like completely abandoned. There's no one

427
00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,040
Speaker 1: else's vacant. It's super I mean, you know, it's not

428
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 1: like there's thousands of people flocking to the site, or

429
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:34,320
Speaker 1: even hundreds at a time, or even like ten. Yeah. Yeah.

430
00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,479
Speaker 1: The only time I've seen it is on Google Maps

431
00:26:36,520 --> 00:26:38,359
Speaker 1: and there was one car parked in the parking area

432
00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:45,800
Speaker 1: and it was probably the people taking the picture. Okay,

433
00:26:46,240 --> 00:26:49,240
Speaker 1: but they did. Since the vandalism, they have they've cleaned

434
00:26:49,240 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: it up a little bit and they've put security cameras

435
00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 1: and you know, posted science that say it's surveilled, and

436
00:26:57,280 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: that seems to have cut down on it a little bit.

437
00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: I just I agree that the vandalism seems to be

438
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: fairly off base. It's not I wouldn't say that it

439
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:13,119
Speaker 1: really touches on anything that really actually pertains to Yeah,

440
00:27:13,320 --> 00:27:15,760
Speaker 1: I think that I think that the vandalism is based

441
00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: on it's based on people's interpretations of writings that are

442
00:27:22,359 --> 00:27:25,439
Speaker 1: trying to interpret what is written on the stone. So

443
00:27:25,480 --> 00:27:28,880
Speaker 1: it's an interpretation of an interpretation of an interpretation. It's

444
00:27:28,920 --> 00:27:30,639
Speaker 1: kind of like that telephone game you used to do

445
00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,399
Speaker 1: when you were a kid, and I'd whisper something in

446
00:27:32,440 --> 00:27:34,960
Speaker 1: your ear and you'd whisper to the next person. It

447
00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 1: changes every time, and so they take it as something

448
00:27:38,440 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: completely different because it's just been morphed over these multiple writings,

449
00:27:44,600 --> 00:27:48,280
Speaker 1: So what they're complaining about it doesn't really pertain to

450
00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,240
Speaker 1: what's written there. But again that's just that's my perspective

451
00:27:51,240 --> 00:27:53,280
Speaker 1: on it. Again, I still think it's off base. I've

452
00:27:53,320 --> 00:27:57,040
Speaker 1: always thought that the paranoia over the whole new world,

453
00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,920
Speaker 1: new world order thing has always been a kind of absurd,

454
00:28:00,400 --> 00:28:03,000
Speaker 1: and and it's out there. I remember, like in It's

455
00:28:03,040 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: in the late eighties, the first President Bush and this

456
00:28:05,600 --> 00:28:08,119
Speaker 1: is after the follow the followed the Wall and followed

457
00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,080
Speaker 1: the Soviet Union. Then he was giving a speech, you know,

458
00:28:11,119 --> 00:28:14,320
Speaker 1: talking about, well, you know, the whole bipolar East West

459
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:17,159
Speaker 1: world is kind of crumbled, and now I guess we're

460
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: gonna have to have some sort of new world order

461
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: because things are going to be different, and you know that,

462
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:25,640
Speaker 1: you know, the nutcases, just one one, all crazy over

463
00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:30,600
Speaker 1: that world. Yeah again, it's gonna be one world government.

464
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:33,480
Speaker 1: You're gonna take take over everything and hurt us in

465
00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:36,639
Speaker 1: the camps and yeah yeah, well so I guess you

466
00:28:36,680 --> 00:28:39,000
Speaker 1: can also kind of look at what's going on in

467
00:28:39,120 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: this period in America's history. In two thousand and eight,

468
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, obviously Obama was elected for the

469
00:28:47,680 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 1: first time, and I think that set some people off

470
00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 1: a little bit. I think, so, I think a little bit.

471
00:28:54,320 --> 00:28:58,440
Speaker 1: You know, you're kind of already outraged and think that

472
00:28:58,520 --> 00:29:01,600
Speaker 1: this like New World Orders is a threat, and you

473
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,120
Speaker 1: you know, think, well, Obama is a terrorist, and like

474
00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,880
Speaker 1: he's probably part of this new world organization too, and

475
00:29:07,720 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: the New World Order paranoids are usually lefties who are

476
00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,600
Speaker 1: considered convinced that it's going to be some sort of

477
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 1: right wing corporate sort of financed Sometimes. I found this

478
00:29:16,400 --> 00:29:22,040
Speaker 1: quote that talks about America's leading billionaires that meet secretly

479
00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:26,200
Speaker 1: to consider how their wealth could be used to slow

480
00:29:26,480 --> 00:29:29,680
Speaker 1: the growth of the world's population. So, and it listed

481
00:29:29,800 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 1: philanthropists like Bill Gates, Um and Oprah Winfrey, Yeah, Ted Turner,

482
00:29:39,680 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 1: Michael Bloomberg, Warren Buffett. So you know, kind of people

483
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:49,719
Speaker 1: who are Obama supporters, who are more left wing liberal people.

484
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:53,080
Speaker 1: So I guess there's there is that theory out there

485
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,320
Speaker 1: that like people who are kind of more left wing

486
00:29:55,720 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: are also trying to So it's you know, I think

487
00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:01,880
Speaker 1: that it can go both ways. Yeah. They really the

488
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,440
Speaker 1: whole thing about slowing world population is it's slowing out

489
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,280
Speaker 1: its own I mean, these guys are so well informed.

490
00:30:08,320 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 1: That's one thing that really need to worry about. Yeah. Yeah,

491
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:14,800
Speaker 1: that's true. So we've talked about a little bit some

492
00:30:14,880 --> 00:30:18,600
Speaker 1: of the interpretations of some of the more problematic ones.

493
00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: I guess we'll talk about who commissioned it. We know

494
00:30:24,440 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: made it. It was the Pyramid Granite Company UM, which

495
00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 1: is headquartered out of the right, like thirty miles away,

496
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,000
Speaker 1: ten miles away. They're in Albert County. Yeah, they're in

497
00:30:39,040 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: Albert County. So they made it. Everybody they were contracted

498
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,760
Speaker 1: to make they were contracted to make it. It was

499
00:30:45,800 --> 00:30:48,280
Speaker 1: an interesting story too, because I mean they had a

500
00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 1: quarry that they got most of their grantited from, but

501
00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:54,120
Speaker 1: they had never quarried a stone as big as these. Yeah,

502
00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:58,320
Speaker 1: and there's a lot of kind of speculation with like, oh, well,

503
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 1: Albert County is where the Indians believed the center of

504
00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: the universe. Well, you know, the guide stones are placed within,

505
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: you know, five miles of where the Native Americans thought,

506
00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:11,400
Speaker 1: so at the center of the universe was blah blah

507
00:31:11,400 --> 00:31:16,320
Speaker 1: blah Americans. No. And also it's you know, ten miles

508
00:31:16,320 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 1: from the quarry. And it cost a lot of money

509
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: to ship that much granite someplace. And so I think

510
00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,960
Speaker 1: four places available when this was being made that were

511
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:29,120
Speaker 1: available for sale. Yeah, this one Christian paid five thousand

512
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: dollars for so it wasn't that much money. And you know,

513
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,840
Speaker 1: it was close enough that it wasn't going to cost

514
00:31:34,840 --> 00:31:39,560
Speaker 1: a fortune to ship these jar large stones anywhere. So

515
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:41,400
Speaker 1: I think a part of that is a little bit

516
00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:47,000
Speaker 1: of convenience. So just go ahead and yeah, call that

517
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:52,120
Speaker 1: spade a serious spade. So I guess the first theory

518
00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:55,000
Speaker 1: I want to talk about is they were Freemasons. Yeah,

519
00:31:55,320 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 1: could be splash rose rosa cree sans is a word

520
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:05,960
Speaker 1: that I cannot hardly say. Apparently they are kind of

521
00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 1: one and the same, but different people refer to them

522
00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:16,040
Speaker 1: as different things. Rosa cruise, yes, is a kind of

523
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:20,680
Speaker 1: a predecessor to what we call freemasonry today. Apparently, this

524
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:25,479
Speaker 1: theory posits that r C is short for rose and cross,

525
00:32:26,240 --> 00:32:32,960
Speaker 1: which was the symbology attached to rosa, thank you, so

526
00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: sorry everyone, and then they've since evolved into freemasonry. It's

527
00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:42,880
Speaker 1: a reference to the little phrase that are that's on

528
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:48,440
Speaker 1: the tablet kind of yeah, on the capstone, and then

529
00:32:48,560 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: it's written on the tablet as well that says, let

530
00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:55,960
Speaker 1: these be guidestones to an age of reason, which echoes

531
00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680
Speaker 1: this book and kind of just the thinking in general

532
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 1: of Thomas pain very yeah, eighteenth century freemason. Apparently he

533
00:33:08,320 --> 00:33:10,160
Speaker 1: was actually a freemason. We have proof that he was

534
00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:12,440
Speaker 1: a freemason. Didn't you totally read his book? Right? No?

535
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 1: I didn't. I have to be honest with you. I

536
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: didn't because first of all, why and second of all,

537
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:22,280
Speaker 1: I didn't chase the freemasonry thing very far down the

538
00:33:22,360 --> 00:33:25,800
Speaker 1: rabbit hole because it just is a giant rabbit hole.

539
00:33:26,080 --> 00:33:30,719
Speaker 1: That's kind of a speculative thing, as is ROSA. Yes,

540
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:36,640
Speaker 1: I guess the thought is the eight languages. This also

541
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:39,400
Speaker 1: kind of wraps into this theory the eight languages that

542
00:33:39,480 --> 00:33:42,480
Speaker 1: are used on the faces of the guide stones for

543
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 1: the twelve As we kind of said, some of them

544
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:52,800
Speaker 1: are very popular languages. However, a lot of Hebrew and

545
00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:56,920
Speaker 1: Swahaly specifically aren't even in the top fifty languages spoken

546
00:33:56,960 --> 00:34:01,680
Speaker 1: in the world, so people kind of wonder why those

547
00:34:01,720 --> 00:34:07,560
Speaker 1: are there instead of things like Cantonese, French, German, Vienomese, Italian. Apparently,

548
00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:13,000
Speaker 1: the inclusion of Hebrew suggests conspiracy theory. To conspiracy theorists

549
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,840
Speaker 1: that the Zionist New World Orders response, it's always, you know,

550
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: comes some kind of Zionist organizations. Again, these all kind

551
00:34:21,000 --> 00:34:24,359
Speaker 1: of like overlap with each other, this one and rose

552
00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:29,719
Speaker 1: a Crustianism. Yeah, I'm getting it, and then the New

553
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:32,560
Speaker 1: World Order, they all kind of overlapped with each other.

554
00:34:32,800 --> 00:34:36,120
Speaker 1: Well yeah, and I still I find it strange. I mean,

555
00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:39,000
Speaker 1: I understand the writings of Thomas Paine, and I can

556
00:34:39,040 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 1: see how all right, well, what he wrote seems to

557
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:46,680
Speaker 1: kind of be echoed in the ten inscriptions from the

558
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: Guide Stones. But then to go into the rose Crucianism

559
00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,760
Speaker 1: bid because the rose Crucians were I mean, they weren't

560
00:34:54,880 --> 00:34:58,520
Speaker 1: historically speaking, they were around very long. They were around

561
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:03,560
Speaker 1: in late Evil Germany, right, and they put out pamphlets

562
00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:08,720
Speaker 1: and they claimed to understand the esoteric truths about nature,

563
00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,560
Speaker 1: the universe, and the spiritual realms that have been concealed

564
00:35:11,600 --> 00:35:17,560
Speaker 1: from ordinary people. And then they disappeared. Yeah okay, well

565
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,759
Speaker 1: according to the conspiracy theories, because they went underground, Pat,

566
00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 1: how do you how do you know the New World

567
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: Order clan didn't kill them? Yeah? Man, yeah, okay, bigger

568
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:34,319
Speaker 1: than you think. Man. The only thing I'll add to

569
00:35:34,440 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: the Rosa Crucianism theory is that apparently, uh, the fourteenth

570
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 1: century Fround founder of Rosicruciansmusicrucianism, was a man first identified

571
00:35:48,920 --> 00:35:54,520
Speaker 1: as front Hair CRC and later became Christian Rosenkrunz. And

572
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:56,520
Speaker 1: they think that r C. Christian is a nod to

573
00:35:56,560 --> 00:36:00,919
Speaker 1: that somehow. I think it's a kind of bunk. But yeah,

574
00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 1: it's it's a weak tie. Yeah I found this, So

575
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:09,920
Speaker 1: let's just say that's it. Yeah Alrightmas. Freemason's next is

576
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: the New World Order? Well, I was Freemasons and Rosencrancianism

577
00:36:13,760 --> 00:36:17,239
Speaker 1: kind of rosen crucian Is. I just keep wanting to

578
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,719
Speaker 1: say Rosencrants. That's so you know that that's that whole

579
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: theater background. So those are kind of mushed into one

580
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:29,240
Speaker 1: it's hard to kind of you can't. You can't unmix

581
00:36:29,320 --> 00:36:33,799
Speaker 1: those two, can't. New World Order. Mark Dice is an

582
00:36:33,880 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 1: author of a book called The Resistance Manifesto in two

583
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:43,400
Speaker 1: thousand five under the pseudonym John Connor. No, not that

584
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:51,160
Speaker 1: John Connor, terminator, killing Connor, Yeah, defeating Connor. Yeahous, keep going,

585
00:36:51,320 --> 00:36:56,920
Speaker 1: keep going, Okay. He uh demanded that the guidestones be

586
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,920
Speaker 1: quote smashed into a million pieces. He thinks that the

587
00:37:01,000 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 1: monument has a deep Satanic origin. Maybe kind of the

588
00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:12,439
Speaker 1: impetus for this, the the graffiti that was happening. Yeah,

589
00:37:12,440 --> 00:37:14,640
Speaker 1: because his stuff would have come out just a couple

590
00:37:14,680 --> 00:37:17,720
Speaker 1: of years before the graffiti, so it could have started

591
00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:21,600
Speaker 1: to gain traction. Yeah, that makes sense. So according to Dice,

592
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:28,640
Speaker 1: slash Connor Christian call him please, he's John Connor, please ARSI.

593
00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:32,080
Speaker 1: Christian was probably a high ranking member of a quote

594
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:36,239
Speaker 1: Luciferian secret society. Is that how you would say that

595
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:45,080
Speaker 1: lucifer secret society based on Lucifer Okay, at the forefront

596
00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,920
Speaker 1: of the New World Order, Yes, quote, the elite are

597
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:52,200
Speaker 1: planning to develop successful life extension technology in the next

598
00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:55,960
Speaker 1: few decades that will nearly stop the aging process, and

599
00:37:56,000 --> 00:37:59,320
Speaker 1: they fear that with the current population of Earth so high,

600
00:37:59,360 --> 00:38:02,399
Speaker 1: the masses will be using resources that the elite want

601
00:38:02,440 --> 00:38:06,040
Speaker 1: for themselves. Actually, the masses will be using resources that

602
00:38:06,120 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: the elite will be selling them. So I think at

603
00:38:09,280 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 1: least will be just five with that, This goes on

604
00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,400
Speaker 1: to get a little crazier quote. The guidestones are the

605
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,080
Speaker 1: New World Orders ten Commandments. They're also away for the

606
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:21,400
Speaker 1: elite to get a laugh at the expense of unafformed

607
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:24,000
Speaker 1: masses as their agenda stands clear as day and the

608
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:29,120
Speaker 1: zombies don't even notice it. Their agenda. Well, I was

609
00:38:29,120 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 1: gonna say these elites again, you talked about there was

610
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:37,640
Speaker 1: Microsoft founder Bill Gates, and I can't remember who the

611
00:38:37,680 --> 00:38:41,839
Speaker 1: other there was. So they're they're saying, these elites are

612
00:38:41,840 --> 00:38:44,319
Speaker 1: going to stop the aging process and they're not going

613
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 1: to age anymore, so the live forever. So they don't

614
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,239
Speaker 1: want the peons using up all the good stuff that

615
00:38:50,280 --> 00:38:52,240
Speaker 1: they're going to need a thousand years in the future

616
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 1: to die, and the elite to be the only ones

617
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: that are left, and they'll stop aging and they'll be

618
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:02,120
Speaker 1: able to create a new Old Order because they'll never die.

619
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:04,840
Speaker 1: But if they're elite, they're probably gonna want some of

620
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:07,960
Speaker 1: those lower echelons to I don't know, be farming their food.

621
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:12,400
Speaker 1: And yeah, I don't know that the conspiracy theorists go

622
00:39:12,480 --> 00:39:16,000
Speaker 1: that far. And I think maybe the assumption is robots.

623
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:18,799
Speaker 1: I mean, John Connor would know about robots, and we

624
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: saw how well that worked. Yeah, well, there's another kind

625
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 1: of absurd point here. So they're planning to develop successful

626
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:30,440
Speaker 1: life extension technology. Well, you can't really plan medical breakthroughs

627
00:39:30,480 --> 00:39:33,799
Speaker 1: two decades from now. That's just simply you know it's

628
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: going to happen or not. You really don't have any

629
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:37,719
Speaker 1: control over. Also, we'll go ahead and point out the

630
00:39:37,760 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: fact that that would happen next year sometime in the

631
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:44,560
Speaker 1: next decade. Is I've actually been making a lot of

632
00:39:44,600 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 1: advances and aging research. No, nothing to slow it down yet.

633
00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: But sing young mice to old mice, Yeah that works apparently.

634
00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:57,520
Speaker 1: So oh, the injection of young blood into old mices

635
00:39:57,600 --> 00:40:01,080
Speaker 1: I'm talking about. It wasn't injections. They suddenly I was.

636
00:40:01,160 --> 00:40:02,839
Speaker 1: I was talking about. I saw something where they took

637
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:04,759
Speaker 1: the blood of young mice and put it into old

638
00:40:04,760 --> 00:40:09,000
Speaker 1: mice and like, whoa, I'm two weeks old again. That

639
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 1: was the next step to so old people have to

640
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:14,160
Speaker 1: go out and bag of a young one in the

641
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,359
Speaker 1: going to the clinic was so I'm not coming over

642
00:40:19,400 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: here anymore. Um, so can we move on to the

643
00:40:24,760 --> 00:40:28,799
Speaker 1: next theory, some more rational stuff. I guess it's not

644
00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,880
Speaker 1: so much of a theory as it is a revelation.

645
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:34,520
Speaker 1: I know Joe really likes this part of it because

646
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:36,320
Speaker 1: he emailed me like twenty times this week and it

647
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: is like, but did you read that? Did you read

648
00:40:38,000 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 1: the article? Did you read that thing? Essentially read that

649
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:41,360
Speaker 1: thing I sent you? Did you read it? Did you

650
00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,239
Speaker 1: read it interesting? Did you read it? Did you read it? Yeah,

651
00:40:44,239 --> 00:40:48,200
Speaker 1: it's got a lot of biological or biographical or starting

652
00:40:48,400 --> 00:40:50,239
Speaker 1: it's got a lot about the history of R. C.

653
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:54,480
Speaker 1: Christians relationship with a local banker. Yeah, it was actually

654
00:40:54,719 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: his liaison for the whole thing. So there's two people.

655
00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: And why didn't you email this to me? Uh, jerk,

656
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:04,920
Speaker 1: you wanted to keep me. I I get it. I'm

657
00:41:04,920 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 1: a mushroom. It's okay. I figured that. I figured that Chris.

658
00:41:08,800 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: If I figured that if Devin wanted to use it,

659
00:41:11,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 1: then she would go ahead and send a copy to

660
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,560
Speaker 1: you too. I just basically sent it to hear it said,

661
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:18,200
Speaker 1: have you seen this? What is this? Because this is

662
00:41:18,239 --> 00:41:20,520
Speaker 1: obviously going to be new to me. It is gonna

663
00:41:20,640 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 1: be so we have to go a little into the

664
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,960
Speaker 1: backstory again, this story makes sense. So this is before

665
00:41:27,960 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 1: everything gets built and directed. Yes, okay, so I've titled

666
00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:35,520
Speaker 1: this theory White Martin knows because he's he's the only

667
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:38,040
Speaker 1: one who actually does he actually does know. White Martin

668
00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: was a very important person at the Albergin Bank. You know,

669
00:41:42,160 --> 00:41:44,080
Speaker 1: I can't remember if he was the manager or the

670
00:41:44,160 --> 00:41:48,120
Speaker 1: president or but he was. He was. He was the

671
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,279
Speaker 1: man who made the decisions. Yes, he was involved in

672
00:41:50,280 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: the day to move on top of the whole thing.

673
00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,640
Speaker 1: He was he did deal with actually granting loans and

674
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 1: things like that. And Joe Friendly friendly and I'm not

675
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:08,000
Speaker 1: pronouncing the end. It's fine company. Alberton Granite was approached

676
00:42:08,080 --> 00:42:13,880
Speaker 1: by this man apparently an elegant gray fellow. Not not

677
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:18,640
Speaker 1: his skin, his hair. Yeah, let's not go there. Even

678
00:42:20,960 --> 00:42:23,120
Speaker 1: I would like to order some great whacking pieces of

679
00:42:24,719 --> 00:42:27,880
Speaker 1: who was. He was well dressed and spoke eloquently and

680
00:42:28,520 --> 00:42:34,920
Speaker 1: was very educated and he ARSI Christian approached Joe Fendley,

681
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,520
Speaker 1: there's the end, asking him kind of outlying his project,

682
00:42:39,520 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 1: did the Georgia guide Stone, and you know, said that

683
00:42:42,320 --> 00:42:48,000
Speaker 1: he represented a small group of concerned American citizens and

684
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:53,880
Speaker 1: these were kind of his parameters. And Fendley said, this

685
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:59,720
Speaker 1: guy's crazy. We've never mind anything mind Corey, never Corey.

686
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:03,399
Speaker 1: We've never coreried anything even half the size of what

687
00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,440
Speaker 1: he's asking for. I don't know if we're going to

688
00:43:06,480 --> 00:43:09,200
Speaker 1: be able to do this, but I guess if he's

689
00:43:09,200 --> 00:43:13,400
Speaker 1: going to give us the money, we'll try. What the heck? Yeah,

690
00:43:13,520 --> 00:43:17,560
Speaker 1: that makes sense, okay, arc Christian goes over to the bank.

691
00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:19,839
Speaker 1: Friendly takes him over to the bank. He's friends with

692
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 1: Wyatt Martin. I don't think I think it just just

693
00:43:24,000 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 1: told him, you know, Wendell Martin at the bank. You know,

694
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 1: I sent him over the wat Yeah, I don't know

695
00:43:31,320 --> 00:43:32,960
Speaker 1: if he sent him over there. He walked him over there.

696
00:43:32,960 --> 00:43:35,239
Speaker 1: It's you know, a little unclear. This is a while ago.

697
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: And he says, Okay, we'll talk to Whyatt Martin and

698
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:41,080
Speaker 1: see if you can get you know, a line of credit,

699
00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:42,839
Speaker 1: if you can get the money or anything like that.

700
00:43:42,880 --> 00:43:44,839
Speaker 1: And if you can get the money, well, you know,

701
00:43:45,320 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: i'd be crazy to say no to the thousand dollars

702
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:52,279
Speaker 1: or whatever. He's all kinds of money, yeah, lots and

703
00:43:52,280 --> 00:43:55,920
Speaker 1: lots of money. So Christian goes over to talk to

704
00:43:56,520 --> 00:44:01,320
Speaker 1: Martin at the bank. At the bank and Martin says, okay,

705
00:44:01,320 --> 00:44:03,759
Speaker 1: well who you know, who are you? What do you

706
00:44:03,800 --> 00:44:06,319
Speaker 1: want to kind of you know, just takes him through

707
00:44:06,360 --> 00:44:11,400
Speaker 1: it again. ARC Christian does, and arc Christian openly admits, okay,

708
00:44:11,400 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: well R. C. Christian isn't my real name is a

709
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:17,400
Speaker 1: pseudonym and I'll never reveal to you my true identity.

710
00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:20,160
Speaker 1: Of course, this is the problem from Martin. Yeah, because

711
00:44:20,160 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 1: this guy's thinking, well, we want you to do this

712
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:24,920
Speaker 1: thing to me really expensive, but you know who I am.

713
00:44:25,520 --> 00:44:27,480
Speaker 1: But he wasn't asking for a loan. He just wanted

714
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:30,439
Speaker 1: banking services, basically. Yeah, he wasn't asking for a loan,

715
00:44:30,600 --> 00:44:32,879
Speaker 1: you know. He said, I'm good for it. You can

716
00:44:33,360 --> 00:44:36,400
Speaker 1: get the money transferred from my bank. Here's the account

717
00:44:36,400 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 1: information or whatever. I think. He ended up making deposits

718
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:43,839
Speaker 1: in lots of banks around the country and then having

719
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:51,720
Speaker 1: them wired directly to Martin's bank. But essentially Martin said, okay,

720
00:44:51,719 --> 00:44:53,200
Speaker 1: you know what I need to think about this, so

721
00:44:53,640 --> 00:44:56,879
Speaker 1: come back on Monday we'll talk about it. So I'll

722
00:44:56,920 --> 00:44:59,800
Speaker 1: read Christian came back to the bank Monday. Martin explained

723
00:44:59,840 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: that he could not proceed unless he could verify the

724
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,160
Speaker 1: man's true identity and quote get some assurance that you

725
00:45:05,160 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 1: can pay for this thing. Eventually, the to negotiated an

726
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: agreement Christian would reveal his real name on the condition

727
00:45:10,719 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 1: that Martin promised to serve his soul as his soul intermediary,

728
00:45:14,640 --> 00:45:17,960
Speaker 1: sign a confidentiality agreement pledging to never disclose the information

729
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: to another soul, and agreed to destroy all documents and

730
00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,919
Speaker 1: records related to the project when he was finished. That's

731
00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,760
Speaker 1: kind of counter to what banks like to do. Yes,

732
00:45:27,640 --> 00:45:30,160
Speaker 1: but again, there's a lot of money. And I guess

733
00:45:30,200 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: I haven't mentioned yet that Alberton's soul huge industry is

734
00:45:36,239 --> 00:45:40,319
Speaker 1: the granite Yeah, that's that's that's what they do now.

735
00:45:40,400 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 1: The big industry is the Georgia guidestones. Yeah, so I

736
00:45:43,719 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: don't know. I assume that it's late eighties, people aren't

737
00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:54,520
Speaker 1: buying huge bulk things of grant. Point. Here, this man

738
00:45:54,680 --> 00:45:56,520
Speaker 1: comes in and says, I'm going to give you guys

739
00:45:56,719 --> 00:46:00,200
Speaker 1: a crap ton of money to do this project. Me.

740
00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:02,319
Speaker 1: You know, I can assume that it would be hard

741
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:06,080
Speaker 1: to turn him down on that. Yeah, probably. Yeah, So

742
00:46:06,400 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 1: Martin White Martin, he's alive today. He's seventy eight years well,

743
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:14,799
Speaker 1: I guess he was seventy season is his eighties. He

744
00:46:14,920 --> 00:46:17,839
Speaker 1: is alive, and he to this day has still not

745
00:46:18,440 --> 00:46:23,239
Speaker 1: disclosed any information about Arc Christian. Arc Christian, for his part,

746
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:25,759
Speaker 1: hasn't been heard of since a roughly on the turn

747
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:28,880
Speaker 1: of the turn of the millennium. About this, yeah, roughly

748
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:32,600
Speaker 1: around nine eleven. They apparently would write letters back and forth.

749
00:46:32,640 --> 00:46:37,080
Speaker 1: They were they head correspondence um. Martin says that every

750
00:46:37,080 --> 00:46:38,920
Speaker 1: single time a letter came to him, it came from

751
00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:42,080
Speaker 1: a different place. He never sent letters from the same city.

752
00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:46,120
Speaker 1: They corresponded for years, So for years they apparently became

753
00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:50,080
Speaker 1: kind of good friends. And Martin again, for his part,

754
00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: gets really upset when he hears all of these kind

755
00:46:52,520 --> 00:46:56,719
Speaker 1: of Satanists, new World Order, freemason theories, because, you know,

756
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,120
Speaker 1: he kind of says, I don't know, but I had

757
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,400
Speaker 1: correspondence with this man for a long time, and he

758
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:05,280
Speaker 1: didn't strike me as that kind of person. He struck

759
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,319
Speaker 1: me as a really truly good man who was just

760
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:10,600
Speaker 1: a little concerned about the future of America, the state

761
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:14,680
Speaker 1: of things, state of things? Yeah, who's not so any

762
00:47:14,680 --> 00:47:16,600
Speaker 1: way that Yeah, back to that time, and then he

763
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: goes and sees friendly again with that little model. Yeah,

764
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:23,759
Speaker 1: he brings a little model in a shoebox model of

765
00:47:23,760 --> 00:47:26,560
Speaker 1: what he made, huh, and gives it to him and

766
00:47:26,640 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: you know, pays them and a bunch of specs along

767
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:34,680
Speaker 1: with that. Ye, And that's kind of the story. So

768
00:47:34,800 --> 00:47:37,160
Speaker 1: the banker is the only one who has any concrete

769
00:47:37,200 --> 00:47:40,200
Speaker 1: information of who the guy really was, and he's not

770
00:47:40,400 --> 00:47:43,680
Speaker 1: festen Up. Yeah, that was holding true to his word

771
00:47:43,840 --> 00:47:47,280
Speaker 1: and not he is. The only thing that he didn't

772
00:47:47,520 --> 00:47:50,919
Speaker 1: follow is that he's still as of the last time

773
00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 1: anybody interviewed him, he still had all the documents, including R. C.

774
00:47:57,120 --> 00:48:01,040
Speaker 1: Christian's true identity, but he wasn't showing he wasn't. No,

775
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: I'm scrolled away. He thought he would maybe write a book,

776
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:05,359
Speaker 1: but he probably you know, I don't think he ever.

777
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:08,000
Speaker 1: He never really got around to it. So I guess

778
00:48:07,800 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: it's totally possible that, you know, upon this death, I

779
00:48:11,440 --> 00:48:16,879
Speaker 1: don't know how true to this promise his family may

780
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:18,959
Speaker 1: end up being or anything like that, but I guess

781
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,040
Speaker 1: it's possible that one and why it Martin dies, they'll

782
00:48:22,680 --> 00:48:26,560
Speaker 1: release the documents and will know possibly for sure, or

783
00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:28,839
Speaker 1: they might not, or maybe he'll dispose of them before

784
00:48:28,840 --> 00:48:30,680
Speaker 1: he dies. Yeah, or he might put in his will

785
00:48:30,719 --> 00:48:32,960
Speaker 1: that they should be buried with him or something like that. Yeah,

786
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 1: they'll be putting a time capsule under the Georgia night Stone. Yeah.

787
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:37,640
Speaker 1: Actually he should put in his will if they should

788
00:48:37,640 --> 00:48:44,560
Speaker 1: be like burned and then don't put him in Yeah.

789
00:48:45,239 --> 00:48:48,200
Speaker 1: Not a good idea in retrospect. So the the one

790
00:48:48,200 --> 00:48:52,360
Speaker 1: other theory, which I honestly kind of like, is that

791
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:56,960
Speaker 1: Martin and Fendley just did it together. Doubt it. The

792
00:48:57,360 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 1: RCI Christian isn't a real person that they kind of

793
00:49:00,719 --> 00:49:05,320
Speaker 1: concocted this story. Martin financed it. Findley was trying to

794
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:12,120
Speaker 1: promote more granted us the business, the business, you know.

795
00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:16,280
Speaker 1: They thought, this will really this weird mystery, will promote

796
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:19,720
Speaker 1: people buying granted things, will promote interest in the area

797
00:49:21,239 --> 00:49:25,680
Speaker 1: tourists and tourists. And this was the late seventies. Things

798
00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: were really in the Dulgrums economically speaking. Yeah, and if

799
00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:32,000
Speaker 1: Fendly was his friend, then his business was like kind

800
00:49:32,000 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: of teatering from Martin. They wanted to like throw a

801
00:49:34,120 --> 00:49:35,680
Speaker 1: huge amount of business this way, and this would be

802
00:49:35,719 --> 00:49:37,880
Speaker 1: a lot of business. Yeah, and that you could say,

803
00:49:37,880 --> 00:49:40,160
Speaker 1: Oh no, it was this weird secret person that nobody

804
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: else recalls seeing around town. You know, it's a small town.

805
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:46,279
Speaker 1: Nobody really recalls seeing this man around town. It was

806
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: this big, mysterious project that took a year to complete.

807
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:52,719
Speaker 1: It got a lot of workers working. It got a

808
00:49:52,719 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: lot of people doing a lot of stuff. I heard

809
00:49:56,080 --> 00:49:58,480
Speaker 1: they hired translators from the U n To translate the

810
00:49:58,520 --> 00:50:02,439
Speaker 1: English myth message and all the other languages. They don't

811
00:50:02,440 --> 00:50:04,560
Speaker 1: know about that they may have. I know that they

812
00:50:04,600 --> 00:50:07,960
Speaker 1: brought they had to bring in special equipment from all

813
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:11,640
Speaker 1: around the country to cut the edges and of the

814
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:16,240
Speaker 1: stone and stuff like that. So it was this big project.

815
00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 1: So there is a little bit of a theory out

816
00:50:17,760 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 1: there that it was just these two guys. They decided

817
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:24,439
Speaker 1: to concoct the story of this weird, mysterious pseudonyms man

818
00:50:25,680 --> 00:50:28,080
Speaker 1: business to drum up business and tourism in the area.

819
00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:31,640
Speaker 1: Could be probably drummed a business, But I don't know

820
00:50:31,680 --> 00:50:34,200
Speaker 1: about tourism. Yeah, I don't know about They could be

821
00:50:34,239 --> 00:50:36,040
Speaker 1: they were just out in the woods smoking or joint

822
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:40,040
Speaker 1: and they witnessed the witness to drug deal gone bad

823
00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:42,920
Speaker 1: and this this is there's a big shootout. Both bandidos

824
00:50:43,080 --> 00:50:45,480
Speaker 1: die and they walk over and there's this big suitcase

825
00:50:45,560 --> 00:50:48,000
Speaker 1: full of cash land there and they decided to make

826
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:52,000
Speaker 1: the guide stones instead of dude, man, wow, this is

827
00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: this is really wild. Man. What do you want to

828
00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:58,960
Speaker 1: do with the money? Stone? Hitch man? Dude man, wow,

829
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,640
Speaker 1: what do you want to do? Yeah? I think that's

830
00:51:02,680 --> 00:51:09,719
Speaker 1: probably exactly what They's the iconic phrase from today, the

831
00:51:10,080 --> 00:51:12,399
Speaker 1: oh you have a theory? Oh I think yeah too,

832
00:51:12,480 --> 00:51:17,359
Speaker 1: But go ahead, okay, now, okay, So we're not gonna know.

833
00:51:18,560 --> 00:51:21,720
Speaker 1: I don't think who R. C. Christian was. That's probably true.

834
00:51:21,840 --> 00:51:23,880
Speaker 1: But but the big mystery is is who is his shadow,

835
00:51:24,000 --> 00:51:27,160
Speaker 1: shadowy cabal of people that financed him, Who was employers?

836
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:29,839
Speaker 1: And I have the answer to that. Oh yes, a

837
00:51:29,920 --> 00:51:32,879
Speaker 1: very rich guy who lives in Georgia and who has

838
00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,960
Speaker 1: who thinks and says kind of wooly headed stuff like this,

839
00:51:36,719 --> 00:51:39,120
Speaker 1: and I'm talking about and I'm holding up the commandments

840
00:51:39,120 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: in front of the microphone here because everybody can read

841
00:51:41,840 --> 00:51:45,239
Speaker 1: him that way exactly. Uh. And so this person is

842
00:51:45,680 --> 00:51:48,920
Speaker 1: Ted Turner. He is the guy. It's not a it's

843
00:51:48,920 --> 00:51:51,280
Speaker 1: not a group of Americans. That was just a subtract.

844
00:51:51,320 --> 00:51:53,080
Speaker 1: Use to say it was a group. It's just Ted.

845
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:56,960
Speaker 1: So that's your entire theories. You're pointing it to Ted. Yeah,

846
00:51:56,960 --> 00:52:00,360
Speaker 1: I'm standing. But how old was Ted then? I don't know.

847
00:52:00,480 --> 00:52:05,880
Speaker 1: He was born in Yeah, yeah he was. He was

848
00:52:05,920 --> 00:52:08,759
Speaker 1: already fairly wealthy by that time, and not nearly as

849
00:52:08,760 --> 00:52:11,520
Speaker 1: wealth easy as today. But he has some books, Okay,

850
00:52:11,719 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: Ted Turner theory. Okay, Well, No. The thing that really

851
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 1: irks me about this whole story is when people go

852
00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 1: off on the Freemasons and the New World Order and

853
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:31,120
Speaker 1: all of this stuff and spazzing out over what what

854
00:52:31,160 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: it means when I looked at it when I first

855
00:52:34,719 --> 00:52:36,720
Speaker 1: read this, and I've I've kind of held this viewpoint

856
00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 1: the whole time this was made. This thing had to

857
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:44,279
Speaker 1: be designed in the late seventies, which means somebody was

858
00:52:44,320 --> 00:52:47,279
Speaker 1: thinking about this probably in the early to mid seventies,

859
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,560
Speaker 1: which is, you know, this isn't a time of turmoil

860
00:52:50,840 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: and and love and we should be good to one another,

861
00:52:54,760 --> 00:52:57,560
Speaker 1: and there's all these these social values that are people

862
00:52:57,640 --> 00:52:59,239
Speaker 1: are trying to put out there from kind of the

863
00:52:59,320 --> 00:53:02,000
Speaker 1: hippie era. Uh sure, And I get the feeling that

864
00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:05,040
Speaker 1: this is just this is kind of a bunch of

865
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:08,640
Speaker 1: wealthy hippies almost like be good to the earth man,

866
00:53:09,360 --> 00:53:13,439
Speaker 1: don't have too many kids manically, Yeah, I don't, don't

867
00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:17,280
Speaker 1: kill things man like the planet. And that's what we're saying.

868
00:53:17,360 --> 00:53:19,520
Speaker 1: But we just wrote it in this fancy way because

869
00:53:19,560 --> 00:53:22,480
Speaker 1: we had a thesaurus. Man Like, that's really just what

870
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:23,759
Speaker 1: I feel like it is. Is Is this a bunch of

871
00:53:23,800 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 1: guys feel like we just think that you should do

872
00:53:25,680 --> 00:53:29,399
Speaker 1: these things to be good? And then everybody just went

873
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,440
Speaker 1: completely off the rails and hung a serious turn in

874
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 1: Albuquerque and have just cap going down that path when

875
00:53:37,440 --> 00:53:40,120
Speaker 1: the whole thing to me is just be good to

876
00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: each other and be good to the planet and end

877
00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:46,879
Speaker 1: to be okay, be excellent, dude. Exactly when I get

878
00:53:46,960 --> 00:53:48,560
Speaker 1: rich enough, I'm gonna have one put up and it's

879
00:53:48,560 --> 00:53:51,520
Speaker 1: gonna have stuff like like you know, like I'd like

880
00:53:51,560 --> 00:53:58,080
Speaker 1: to buy the world a coke stuff sprinkles and sprinkles.

881
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:00,799
Speaker 1: I'd like to buy the World of co could be

882
00:54:00,880 --> 00:54:06,200
Speaker 1: number seven, and then number it will be Synergy. No. Yeah,

883
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:09,839
Speaker 1: well if we see that pop up anywhere where, Yeah,

884
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:13,560
Speaker 1: that's mine. I don't know. I mean, you're you're kind

885
00:54:13,560 --> 00:54:15,440
Speaker 1: of likeing the idea that it was just those two.

886
00:54:15,640 --> 00:54:18,279
Speaker 1: I kind of do. Yeah, it seems like the most

887
00:54:18,320 --> 00:54:22,680
Speaker 1: reasonable to me. I don't know financial history of Wyatt Martin.

888
00:54:22,840 --> 00:54:25,239
Speaker 1: I don't know if he actually had access to that

889
00:54:25,320 --> 00:54:27,480
Speaker 1: kind of money. I doubt that he was stinking rich

890
00:54:27,600 --> 00:54:30,000
Speaker 1: enough to do that, I don't think so. I don't

891
00:54:30,040 --> 00:54:36,520
Speaker 1: know if there's some unfinished embezzling charges against anyone, you know.

892
00:54:36,880 --> 00:54:39,719
Speaker 1: I don't really know the story there, but I kind

893
00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,040
Speaker 1: of like that well, and it could have been, actually,

894
00:54:43,840 --> 00:54:46,120
Speaker 1: it could have been that he knew the whole group

895
00:54:46,120 --> 00:54:49,560
Speaker 1: and they were actually wealthy people from Elbert County, which

896
00:54:49,640 --> 00:54:51,480
Speaker 1: is a little bit of a backwater. It's in way

897
00:54:51,600 --> 00:54:55,960
Speaker 1: north Way, North Georgia, by the South Carolina border and

898
00:54:56,880 --> 00:54:59,600
Speaker 1: kind of off the beaten path. And now that they

899
00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:03,120
Speaker 1: have the the Georgia Guidestone there, it's now on a

900
00:55:03,200 --> 00:55:06,800
Speaker 1: beaten path. It's got a major, serious, world famous tourist

901
00:55:06,800 --> 00:55:09,520
Speaker 1: attraction in it now. Yeah, so I could picture some

902
00:55:09,560 --> 00:55:13,640
Speaker 1: county elders getting together and just approaching Martin and just saying, hey, look,

903
00:55:13,640 --> 00:55:15,520
Speaker 1: we're gonna do this, but we're gonna do it on

904
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,839
Speaker 1: the sly create some mystery, will to create even more

905
00:55:18,920 --> 00:55:22,600
Speaker 1: buzz and and even more interest and uh and so

906
00:55:22,719 --> 00:55:27,359
Speaker 1: you'll never you know, nobody get to know who we are. Well,

907
00:55:27,400 --> 00:55:30,399
Speaker 1: because that that does ask her one serious question, which

908
00:55:30,440 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: is why Albert County, Georgia. Not that I'm putting down

909
00:55:33,320 --> 00:55:36,160
Speaker 1: Elbert County, but of all the places to put this thing,

910
00:55:36,719 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 1: Albert County, Georgia is the granite capital of America. Yeah,

911
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,760
Speaker 1: but there's other granite places. Yeah, but it was probably

912
00:55:43,800 --> 00:55:47,000
Speaker 1: the cheapest there. Well, I'm sure it was cheapest. Yeah. Yeah,

913
00:55:47,239 --> 00:55:49,359
Speaker 1: So I know that's just the possible that the last

914
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,080
Speaker 1: thing you want to do was go to the second

915
00:55:51,160 --> 00:55:54,560
Speaker 1: cheapest guy and find out he can't corey it big enough,

916
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:57,680
Speaker 1: and suddenly you've got a monument that's in danger of

917
00:55:57,719 --> 00:56:02,000
Speaker 1: being crushed by elves. We're going back to that, and

918
00:56:02,200 --> 00:56:06,520
Speaker 1: we're going back to that analogy back. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway,

919
00:56:06,560 --> 00:56:09,160
Speaker 1: So anyway asked, My thoughts is that if you're going

920
00:56:09,200 --> 00:56:11,160
Speaker 1: to build it, we want to build a tourist attraction.

921
00:56:11,239 --> 00:56:13,600
Speaker 1: It's going to be called American Stonehenge. And well, if

922
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:16,920
Speaker 1: people know that it's just a fake that you built

923
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,040
Speaker 1: just to draw tourists, and that's not going to have

924
00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:24,759
Speaker 1: any any sort of draw whatsoever. Where The big mistake there,

925
00:56:24,800 --> 00:56:27,200
Speaker 1: of course, is that there is an American stonehenge, and

926
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:30,640
Speaker 1: it is it's in Washington Mary Hill. Yeah, it's in

927
00:56:30,680 --> 00:56:36,920
Speaker 1: Merry Hill. Yeah. When was that built? The early twentieth century.

928
00:56:37,000 --> 00:56:40,640
Speaker 1: I'm going to agree with that, the early century. Okay, Yeah,

929
00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:44,760
Speaker 1: well this was a listener suggestion. Who was our listener?

930
00:56:44,880 --> 00:56:48,319
Speaker 1: It was from a guy named Chandler. Chandler, thank you,

931
00:56:49,120 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: very cool story, good idea. You know, I don't remember

932
00:56:52,680 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: having come across this one in the past, so can't

933
00:56:55,000 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 1: be true. You know, I probably have, but I just

934
00:56:58,040 --> 00:57:00,719
Speaker 1: don't remember it. So I'm no. I'm glad that to

935
00:57:00,840 --> 00:57:02,879
Speaker 1: us because I wouldn't have thought to pick it up. Yeah.

936
00:57:02,920 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: I actually wouldn't have either. I don't know why though.

937
00:57:07,239 --> 00:57:09,040
Speaker 1: You know, another one of those we talked about this

938
00:57:09,120 --> 00:57:11,520
Speaker 1: sometimes where we've known about these unsolved mysteries for a

939
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:14,600
Speaker 1: long time and we don't think about it until somebody says, hey,

940
00:57:14,640 --> 00:57:16,760
Speaker 1: you guys should do this mystery, and we're like, oh, yeah,

941
00:57:16,800 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 1: we should do that. Yea, that mystery. I love that mystery. Yeah,

942
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:23,880
Speaker 1: I was. I had actually heard about this quite a

943
00:57:23,880 --> 00:57:26,920
Speaker 1: while back and then forgotten about it. Right, No, I

944
00:57:26,920 --> 00:57:30,000
Speaker 1: had forgotten about It's on my list of possibilities, but

945
00:57:30,120 --> 00:57:31,680
Speaker 1: I just never got around. I guess I thought it

946
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: was really pretty lame. Well, really enjoyed this story. Yeah,

947
00:57:39,480 --> 00:57:42,919
Speaker 1: so the pictures or the drawing for sure, and maybe

948
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:47,280
Speaker 1: another picture too, yeah, probably. But the links will also

949
00:57:47,400 --> 00:57:51,480
Speaker 1: be up on our website, which is thinking Sideways podcast

950
00:57:51,560 --> 00:57:56,760
Speaker 1: dot com. You can listen there, or you can listen

951
00:57:56,800 --> 00:58:00,280
Speaker 1: to us on iTunes. If you do listen to us

952
00:58:00,320 --> 00:58:03,480
Speaker 1: on iTunes, leave us a comment and our rating. We

953
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: really appreciate it, really like those. I can also listen

954
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:11,320
Speaker 1: to us oh on stitcher. You can stream us directly

955
00:58:12,000 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 1: on any mobile device. If you forget to download us

956
00:58:14,560 --> 00:58:19,480
Speaker 1: off iTunes. You can find us and like us or

957
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:25,760
Speaker 1: join our group on Facebook. Facebook we are yeah. And

958
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:28,120
Speaker 1: if you want to suggest something to us, if you

959
00:58:28,120 --> 00:58:31,760
Speaker 1: have any yeah, you just want to say hi, which

960
00:58:31,960 --> 00:58:34,120
Speaker 1: we kind of like to, you can feel free to

961
00:58:34,160 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: send us an email. That email address is thinking Sideways

962
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:43,280
Speaker 1: Podcast at gmail dot com. I guess that's it. I

963
00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:52,360
Speaker 1: think that's solid. Yeah, all the different electric avenues. So yeah,

964
00:58:52,360 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: another another week, another mystery solved. Oh we solved this one,

965
00:58:55,920 --> 00:59:02,400
Speaker 1: did we, Ted Turner, Oh, I see I didn't realize. Well,

966
00:59:02,440 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: I guess we'll get on out of here then. Alright

967
00:59:04,680 --> 00:59:07,800
Speaker 1: to lou folks. Talk to you guys this week. Hi, guys,