Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to another episode of Snake's Territory, part
Speaker 1: of the Foul Territory Network. Be sure to like this video,
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Speaker 1: alongside Jack Summers and Jack. Just a couple days ago,
Speaker 1: the Arizona Diamondbacks were interested in trading four Casey miz
Speaker 1: That was the reporting that was out there. We talked
Speaker 1: about him as a target. And then the Diamondbacks go
Speaker 1: out and they face him as he lands with the
Speaker 1: San Diego Padres. They score eight runs on nine hits.
Speaker 1: They knock him out in the fourth inning, a big
Speaker 1: win for the Diamondbacks, Jack by a final score of
Speaker 1: ten to four.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, talk about a game dripping with irony and
Speaker 3: just you know how many times have we had to
Speaker 3: say you can't predict baseball tonight.
Speaker 2: It's really credible what we just saw.
Speaker 3: And uh, some crow will be eaten on this episode.
Speaker 4: It's a trend. It's a trend around here. We love
Speaker 4: it when that happens. Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Diamondbacks offense was I think the primary storyline of
Speaker 1: this game. Mitch Bratt was also a big storyline. We'll
Speaker 1: we'll talk more about him later in the episode, but
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks had some wasted opportunities in the first couple of innings.
Speaker 1: It kind of looked like Casey Myz was maybe going
Speaker 1: to settle in, but then the d Backs able to
Speaker 1: push across a run. In the bottom of the third,
Speaker 1: Gabby Moreno hits a sack fly there, Tim Tawa hit
Speaker 1: a solo home run. After that, d Backs pick up
Speaker 1: a two to nothing lead, and then in the fourth inning,
Speaker 1: this d Backs offense just goes off. James McCanns starts
Speaker 1: that inning with a flyout, but then it goes double, single, single, single,
Speaker 1: single walk, and at that point Casey Mice was out
Speaker 1: of the game. D Backs continued to tack on after that.
Speaker 1: With Kyle Hart in the game, they ultimately push their
Speaker 1: lead up to eight nothing in that inning. And yeah,
Speaker 1: it was just kind of stunning to watch Jack. I mean,
Speaker 1: this was not just Casey Mei's worst start of the season.
Speaker 1: This was arguably the worst start of his career. That
Speaker 1: eight earned runs, those eight earned runs that he allowed,
Speaker 1: that was a career high for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, and the funny thing was everyone was
Speaker 3: worried about his velocity, and it wasn't down. It was
Speaker 3: about the same, you know, a slight dip at the
Speaker 3: end of his outing, but that was a long inning,
Speaker 3: so you kind of expect that, so it wasn't a
Speaker 3: velocity thing, so, you know, and early in the game,
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, he threw some splitters in in
Speaker 3: that first and second inning, and I'm thinking, oh boy,
Speaker 3: here we go with another guy with a good splitter.
Speaker 3: But then he kind of ran away from that pitch,
Speaker 3: didn't throw so many after the first inning or two,
Speaker 3: and then it just you know, all got away from him.
Speaker 3: The d Backs started out zero for five with runners
Speaker 3: in scoring position, and they ended up six for fourteen,
Speaker 3: So they went six for their next nine with runners
Speaker 3: in scoring position. So, you know, we always talk about
Speaker 3: the risk numbers and often they're highlighted early in the
Speaker 3: game when things are looking a little rough. Six for
Speaker 3: fourteen tonight, guy, that's pretty pretty dark good.
Speaker 4: You'll certainly take that. That is not bad.
Speaker 1: Casey Mice, of course, faced the Diamondbacks earlier this season
Speaker 1: and had a lot of success six innings of one
Speaker 1: run ball with nine strikeouts at Chase Field back on
Speaker 1: March thirty, first but yeah, this was just a bizarre
Speaker 1: game for him. He generated just two whiffs throughout this
Speaker 1: outing on seventy seven pitches. Granted he hadn't pitched in
Speaker 1: eleven days. The Tigers scratched him in his last start
Speaker 1: before the deadline, so you'll wonder if maybe maybe that
Speaker 1: had an impact. But I guess if we want to
Speaker 1: make the storyline Jack that the d Backs actually won
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, I mean that's fair, right, Like we
Speaker 1: can say that at this point, right.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean, you know, a bullet dodged all that
Speaker 3: good stuff. I mean, you know, imagine if they had
Speaker 3: gotten Casey my and inserted him in the rotation tonight
Speaker 3: over Mitch Brett and San Diego did to him what
Speaker 3: the Diamondbacks just did to him. You know, we'd be
Speaker 3: lighting our computers on fire.
Speaker 1: I think it's a reminder for me that, especially with rentals,
Speaker 1: like even if on paper you win the trade deadline,
Speaker 1: when it comes to rentals, two months of baseball is
Speaker 1: just not a long time. And really anything can happen
Speaker 1: in that small a sample size, And so there is
Speaker 1: this element of like, hey, even if you go out
Speaker 1: and get a starting pitcher who's legitimately good or a
Speaker 1: hitter who's legitimately good. All that really matters is how
Speaker 1: they perform over a two month stretch, and that's just
Speaker 1: a that's a that's a small sample.
Speaker 4: And while I.
Speaker 1: Certainly don't think we're dismissing Casey Miyes over over one
Speaker 1: bad outing, I don't think that would be reasonable. But
Speaker 1: is it possible that Myz goes out there and has
Speaker 1: a you know, four to seven five era for the pod?
Speaker 4: Totally right?
Speaker 1: And like Robbie Ray isn't a perfect starting pitcher either.
Speaker 1: You look at his underlying numbers for this season, looks
Speaker 1: a little bit more like a mid four type e
Speaker 1: er pitcher than you know, the low three mark he
Speaker 1: has up to this point in the season. So you know,
Speaker 1: maybe maybe we're jumping the gun a little bit to
Speaker 1: say the Diamondbacks, you know, won the trade deadline, or
Speaker 1: that it's a good thing they didn't go out and
Speaker 1: get a starting pitcher. I do not agree with that
Speaker 1: at all, But there is this reality of you just
Speaker 1: never know what's going to happen, and and heck, if
Speaker 1: Mitch Bratt pitches like this a few more times the
Speaker 1: rest of the way, maybe the d Backs actually didn't
Speaker 1: need a starting pitcher when when all was said and done.
Speaker 3: Well, I wanted them to go get a reliever over
Speaker 3: a starter, right, you know, And I'll stick with that,
Speaker 3: but that's another story. You know, I was disappointed. Look,
Speaker 3: the one thing I want to say about all this,
Speaker 3: You know, for sure Monday afternoon, you know, we had
Speaker 3: a reaction, and there was some of the in that reaction,
Speaker 3: but we were reflecting the emotion around us, the emotion
Speaker 3: around us in that clubhouse, the emotion around us.
Speaker 2: In that interview room.
Speaker 3: I mean, I have never seen my case and that upset,
Speaker 3: that angry, that disappointed, and you know, as it later
Speaker 3: came to understand, they had a deal in place for
Speaker 3: Clay Holmes, and that deal got mixed because the Mets
Speaker 3: had concerns over medicals that they saw on the player
Speaker 3: that was involved. Who we don't know it is. And
Speaker 3: I'm not going to speculate. I have thoughts, but I'm
Speaker 3: not going to speculate publicly who it might be. It's
Speaker 3: just not fair. But you know, what we were exposed
Speaker 3: to was a team and players, and despite his surface words,
Speaker 3: Tory and of course Mike, these were some really upset
Speaker 3: emotional people. That's what we were exposed to, and we
Speaker 3: had the results in front of us of just the
Speaker 3: new bar trade, so that's what we reacted to. I
Speaker 3: think it was a legitimate reaction. I still think there's
Speaker 3: a long ways to go before we know how all
Speaker 3: this plays out. But for one night, this was a
Speaker 3: fantastic result. I mean, we can't help but be encouraged
Speaker 3: by what we saw from Mitch Bratt, of course, and
Speaker 3: the way the offense performed tonight was exactly what they needed.
Speaker 1: We'll get to Brat Moore here in a moment. I
Speaker 1: do want to stick on the offense here. Diamondbacks had
Speaker 1: five different hitters with multiple hits in this game, Corbyn Carroll,
Speaker 1: Tim Tawa, Eildemar Vargas, Tyler Locklear, and Ryan Waldschmidt. I mean,
Speaker 1: we could really highlight any of those guys, but I'm
Speaker 1: going to start with this graphic here, which shows that
Speaker 1: that Tim Tala, excuse me, had four of the five
Speaker 1: hardest hit balls in this game.
Speaker 4: Jack pretty pretty impressive stuff here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when he hit that home run, that's when I
Speaker 3: really felt like, oh wow, they got a good chance
Speaker 3: to beat Casey Maize, and I started you know, looking
Speaker 3: up and I see Bryce Swartz also was thinking along
Speaker 3: the same page as I was. I quoted in game
Speaker 3: all we on Twitter Tim Tower's numbers since being recalled
Speaker 3: from Reno, and as of right now, he's batting two
Speaker 3: seventy six in twenty five games, and he's got five
Speaker 3: homers and five doubles and eighteen RBIs after his three
Speaker 3: for four tonight with the sackfly two RBIs. So, I mean,
Speaker 3: and the thing that's really cool about Tim is he's
Speaker 3: playing first base, he's playing center field, he's playing third base.
Speaker 3: He made a really nice play at third base tonight.
Speaker 3: I think it was the only put out he had
Speaker 3: up until that point until the very end of the game.
Speaker 3: And you know that that just kind of signified to me.
Speaker 3: I mean, he's made some really nice plays at first
Speaker 3: you see him ranging in center. I spoke to him
Speaker 3: about it on Monday night, and of course, you know,
Speaker 3: immediately just giving all the credit to the coaches and
Speaker 3: for helping him. I was asking him, how is he
Speaker 3: staying sharp at each position, because he's playing each position
Speaker 3: like a starter, And he gave all the credit to
Speaker 3: coaches and the work that they had put in with him.
Speaker 3: And then immediately said, yeah, but that one ball I
Speaker 3: didn't dig out of the dirt tonight, that's going to
Speaker 3: stick with me. So, you know, this is a gamer,
Speaker 3: this is a grinder, and it's just great to see
Speaker 3: him having.
Speaker 2: Some success.
Speaker 1: Elsewhere with the offense. Ryan Waldschmidt had three hits as well.
Speaker 1: We've talked about the batting average on balls and play,
Speaker 1: the fact that maybe there's some regression overdue there, and
Speaker 1: yet Ryan Waldschmitt just did use to go out and
Speaker 1: have games like this. He did hit the ball particularly
Speaker 1: hard in this game as well. These were not you know,
Speaker 1: bloops that were dropping in. We've seen some of those
Speaker 1: from him, but these were three really, really well hit baseballs.
Speaker 1: And his batting average for the season is up to
Speaker 1: two ninety eight.
Speaker 3: One of these days, I'm going to write a book
Speaker 3: that's titled you Know How I Learned to Relax and
Speaker 3: Embrace Inflate bab.
Speaker 1: I think there's a big market for that book. I
Speaker 1: think I think that that's that's a widely appealing bestseller
Speaker 1: in the works for sure. No, No, not at all,
Speaker 1: not at all. Yeah, another really good game for wald Schmidt.
Speaker 1: Eildemar Vargas four runs, batted in in this one as well.
Speaker 1: Just a well rounded effort for the Diamondbacks offense against
Speaker 1: once again a pitcher that we at least thought was
Speaker 1: good coming into this one. Casey Myzra was two point
Speaker 1: seven zero entering this start. It was three point four
Speaker 1: zero by the end of it. Pretty impressive stuff for
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks to just jump on him. And things did
Speaker 1: get a little bit interesting late in the game. Kevin
Speaker 1: Ginkel did not have his best outing tonight. Paul Sewald
Speaker 1: came in and got the final out of this one.
Speaker 1: I guess just a footnote there. I know you've been
Speaker 1: talking about this for a while, Jack, that this Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: bullpen has maybe agressed, and we did see a little
Speaker 1: bit more of that in this one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, it's just been kind of creeping in there.
Speaker 3: You know, it fits and starts obviously, you know, as
Speaker 3: you pointed out to me, you know, Garcia Mario have
Speaker 3: still been excellent in our career. Is you know, he's
Speaker 3: been fantastic as well. You know, it's not straight truck,
Speaker 3: but we're just seeing you know, besides Thompson and Seawald,
Speaker 3: we're seeing rough outing here, rough outing there from you know,
Speaker 3: other guys taking turns a little bit more frequently than
Speaker 3: we had been up until a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 2: So you know, it is what it is.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's we're at August fifth and a lot
Speaker 3: of guys are getting tired, and it's going to.
Speaker 2: Be really interesting.
Speaker 3: You know, when we have a little bit later discussion,
Speaker 3: we'll see how they kind of re engineered the bullpen
Speaker 3: a little bit, and you know, and that's going to
Speaker 3: be in conjunction with what happens with the starters and
Speaker 3: returning players, and it's going to be an interesting and
Speaker 3: fascinating thing to track how they manage this going forward,
Speaker 3: both from a roster perspective and workloads and roles and
Speaker 3: who's going to be used in what situation. A lot
Speaker 3: of moving parts here.
Speaker 1: Mitch Bratt was, of course, arguably the biggest story but
Speaker 1: at least one of the biggest stories for the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: in this one. So we are going to talk a
Speaker 1: whole lot of Midge Brat, But first we're going to
Speaker 1: take a quick break, so don't go anywhere here on
Speaker 1: Snake's territory.
Speaker 4: Will be right back after this.
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Speaker 1: Geek Well jack It feels like an understatement to say
Speaker 1: that this was the best start in Mitch Bratt's career,
Speaker 1: because holy cow, he threw seven innings. He allowed just
Speaker 1: one hit, no runs, three walks, nine strikeouts. In this
Speaker 1: he was efficient, just ninety two pitches thrown, and maybe
Speaker 1: you're like, all right, one hit, Like maybe he got
Speaker 1: a little lucky here there. The Padres expected batting average
Speaker 1: against him was one nineteen. They made basically no compelling
Speaker 1: contact in this game, and again there was quite a
Speaker 1: bit of swing and miss as well, with far and
Speaker 1: Away a career high with nine strikeouts.
Speaker 3: You know, a guy flashed to my mind watching this
Speaker 3: start tonight and watching him be able to place that
Speaker 3: fastball the top of the zone or a little bit
Speaker 3: above it, sometimes get the call on a ball that
Speaker 3: was probably you know, to get her strike call on
Speaker 3: a pitch that was high. Fortunately, the Padres burned their challenges.
Speaker 2: Very early in this game.
Speaker 3: But older DBAX fans are going to remember Doug Davis,
Speaker 3: and he was pretty underrated pitchers. A left hander, he
Speaker 3: was more or less a league average innings eater, but
Speaker 3: he could give you fairly consistent between like one hundred
Speaker 3: and five hundred and ten plus. You know, his fastball
Speaker 3: couldn't break a pane of glass, but he challenged hitters
Speaker 3: with it all the time up at the top of
Speaker 3: the zone through a good curveball. In that regard, I
Speaker 3: mean the personality wise, how they look, their demeanor, none
Speaker 3: of that's the same. But just there's a lot of
Speaker 3: similarity there for me. And you know, Doug Davis was
Speaker 3: a very effective pitcher for a good four or five
Speaker 3: year run of pitching, you know, above league average, above
Speaker 3: one hundred ra plus and giving the team innings, and
Speaker 3: you know, similar you kind of adjust for the ear
Speaker 3: a little bit, kind of similar stuff. So I think
Speaker 3: there's a pathway here for Brett. And the funny thing
Speaker 3: is is what made me think about Doug Davis was
Speaker 3: Brett walking the leadoff batter three innings in a row
Speaker 3: and then just getting out of it. And I remember
Speaker 3: using used to having a bit of a perverse pleasure
Speaker 3: in watching Doug Davis put guys on base, just to
Speaker 3: see how he was going to.
Speaker 2: Get out of it, because he always did.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's a fun that's a fun comp I had
Speaker 1: not thought of Doug Davis, but I can definitely see
Speaker 1: where you're coming. From There's something with Brat that I'm
Speaker 1: not sure I've fully wrapped my mind around, but like
Speaker 1: teams just really struggle to square him up in a
Speaker 1: way that I don't know if I fully understand, but
Speaker 1: it has felt like a very real thing up to
Speaker 1: this point in his career. I mentioned the one to
Speaker 1: nineteen expected batting average entering or in this game for
Speaker 1: the San Diego Padres. You also look at his numbers
Speaker 1: for the season and you look at the underlying data
Speaker 1: against him, and opposing teams really have not done much
Speaker 1: damage when they've put the ball in play. The issue
Speaker 1: was just, you know, he was walking too many guys,
Speaker 1: and he wasn't missing all that many bats, but there
Speaker 1: seemed to be this kind of soft contact element to
Speaker 1: his game, and we absolutely saw that here here in
Speaker 1: this one. Hard to do better than limiting the Padres
Speaker 1: to one hit over seven innings, I guess if you're nitpicking,
Speaker 1: which you kind of alluded to this, yeah, maybe you'd
Speaker 1: like to see him not walk the first batter of
Speaker 1: an inning quite so often. The leadoff man for the
Speaker 1: Padres reached in innings two through five, three of those
Speaker 1: via the walk, but also those were the only four
Speaker 1: base runners that he allowed the entire night, so you
Speaker 1: really can't be too upset about that, but it is
Speaker 1: this strange phenomenon. I think Bratt talked about this after
Speaker 1: a recent outing, where he feels more comfortable somehow once
Speaker 1: there's somebody on base, and the numbers definitely bear that out.
Speaker 4: Up to this point.
Speaker 1: This is entering today, Bratt had a six h four
Speaker 1: ops against with runners on base and a twelve seventy
Speaker 1: eight ops against with the bases empty. So I don't
Speaker 1: know if that's a thing, Jack. It's maybe something that
Speaker 1: you'd like Bratt to not have to rely on so much,
Speaker 1: but something about getting someone on first base that just
Speaker 1: seems to allow him to dial things in.
Speaker 3: Well, that's an interesting stat I wasn't aware of that one.
Speaker 3: You blow me away, Jesse. It's so much fun doing
Speaker 3: this podcast with you, because you just surprised me with
Speaker 3: stuff left, right and center all the time.
Speaker 1: It kind of blew my mind too. I didn't think
Speaker 1: the difference would be that stark, but it is. If
Speaker 1: you also look at the leading off an inning opposing
Speaker 1: hitters or ten for twenty two with six walks in
Speaker 1: twenty eight played appearances, So like really rough numbers the
Speaker 1: first battered an inning, but then he has this way
Speaker 1: of just kind of dialing it in after that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is he winding up with nobody on base and
Speaker 3: then going to the stretch or is he pitched me
Speaker 3: from the stretcher all the time?
Speaker 2: You know, I should know that, and for some reason,
Speaker 2: my brain is blanking.
Speaker 3: If anyone in the comments can remind me on that,
Speaker 3: let me know, because if he's winding up with nobody
Speaker 3: on base and then going to the stretch, maybe he's
Speaker 3: a candidate to just go straight stretch.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's an interesting thought. I'm not one hundred percent
Speaker 1: sure on that myself, but yeah, what we do know
Speaker 1: is Mitch Bratt now has a three point nine zero era.
Speaker 1: I'll go ahead and throw his pitch chart from tonight
Speaker 1: up here. You can see there are a few bigger
Speaker 1: misses here and there some uncompetitive pitches being thrown around.
Speaker 1: But what felt unique about this game is he really
Speaker 1: was in the zone quite a bit. His zone rate
Speaker 1: was fifty five percent, which is very very good. It's
Speaker 1: actually higher than his zone rate was down in Reno
Speaker 1: by a few percentage points. So good to see him
Speaker 1: show that he can hit the plate with regularity at
Speaker 1: the big league level, and some kind of crazy facts
Speaker 1: on this. This is from our pal Alex Weiner over
Speaker 1: at Arizona Sports. He pointed out that Brad is the
Speaker 1: youngest pitcher in d BAC's history to throw at least
Speaker 1: seven innings with zero earned runs and one hit in
Speaker 1: a start. According to Head. There's another nugget here from
Speaker 1: opt to stats that the Diamondbacks just retweeted on Twitter.
Speaker 1: This one's a little bit niche, but it's still kind
Speaker 1: of fun. Since pitches were first tracked in nineteen eighty eight,
Speaker 1: Brat is the only rookie lefty in MLB to have
Speaker 1: an outing where a toss seven or more innings, allowed
Speaker 1: no more than one hit, struck out nine or more batters,
Speaker 1: threw under one hundred pitches, and earned the win. So
Speaker 1: I know, there's kind of a lot of qualifiers in there.
Speaker 1: It seems like OPTA stats really specializes in those, But hey,
Speaker 1: I don't know, Maybe we just say that Mitch Brad
Speaker 1: is the best rookie starting pitcher since nineteen eighty eight.
Speaker 4: I mean, that's what I That's what I take from that. Jack.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well, he's at least the best rookie starting pitcher
Speaker 3: since Paul Schemes.
Speaker 2: How's that sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think we can.
Speaker 1: I think we can say that, uh yeah, really really
Speaker 1: good stuff from Brad in this one. I do think
Speaker 1: it's you know, his like fip inex FIP. If you
Speaker 1: look at his underlying numbers for this season, and frankly
Speaker 1: there's still not in line with a three nine zero era.
Speaker 1: His FIP is five five zero, his ex FIP is
Speaker 1: five nine to two. But we're talking about a pretty
Speaker 1: small sample size here, so you know, if he goes
Speaker 1: out there and has a couple of other outings like this,
Speaker 1: those numbers are are gonna switch around in a hurry.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, look, it's like you said, he's got twenty
Speaker 3: eight innings pitched, so we'll see where things roll there. Obviously,
Speaker 3: eighteen walks and twenty eight innings is not going to
Speaker 3: be workable long term, but I think those walk numbers
Speaker 3: have got to come down, you know, and I'd probably
Speaker 3: expect the hit rate to go up, so you know,
Speaker 3: we'll see how he balances that out.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, definitely definitely going to need to limit the walks
Speaker 1: moving forward in order to have sustained success. That brings
Speaker 1: us into a conversation about the Diamondbacks starting rotation at large.
Speaker 1: Here Jack Michael Soroka made a rehab outing, or maybe
Speaker 1: a rehab start with Triple A Reno yesterday. Put up
Speaker 1: pretty good numbers as you can see here, four innings,
Speaker 1: three hits, one run, two walks, one strikeout because Vilo
Speaker 1: was down a tick average ninety two point seven on
Speaker 1: the four seamer, but nothing alarming there after as much
Speaker 1: time down as he's had, and it sounds like he's
Speaker 1: going to return to the Diamondbacks starting rotation for his
Speaker 1: next outing, which I think would be on Monday against
Speaker 1: the Rockies. Our is our best guess as of right now.
Speaker 2: There is a caveat there. Sure, yeah, so yeah.
Speaker 3: John Gambadoro tweeted out that the Diamondbacks are still trying
Speaker 3: to figure that out because it really depends on who
Speaker 3: needs the most rest.
Speaker 2: You know, he rod through I think one hundred and something.
Speaker 3: Did he go over one hundred and two pitches you know,
Speaker 3: in his rough outing on Tuesday, and so they may
Speaker 3: opt to push him back a day and give him
Speaker 3: a little bit extra rest and go with Soroca on
Speaker 3: Sunday if they feel he's ready, so they stay tuned
Speaker 3: for that. We're not sure how that's going to fall.
Speaker 3: I don't know when the Diamondbacks will announce that, but
Speaker 3: there's there's a little bit of ways to go there
Speaker 3: before we know for certain. So it could be Sunday
Speaker 3: against the Dodgers for Soroka.
Speaker 1: So I guess one way or another, the expectation is
Speaker 1: that Soroka he's not making another rehab start, and now
Speaker 1: he's coming back, the Diamondbacks are are bringing him back up,
Speaker 1: and so that sets up a decision that the team
Speaker 1: will will have to make Mitch Bratt after what he
Speaker 1: did today. I feel like it's kind of impossible at
Speaker 1: this point that the Diamondbacks are going to remove Mitch
Speaker 1: Bratt from the rotation after this. I guess that means
Speaker 1: that Cole Drake there's there's certainly some pressure there with
Speaker 1: him making the start tomorrow. I imagine that even entering
Speaker 1: these these two games with those guys pitching, Bratt was
Speaker 1: probably probably already had the upper hand slightly just given
Speaker 1: the I think he's a more well regarded prospect. He
Speaker 1: certainly had much better numbers in Reno underlying numbers and
Speaker 1: the majors. Maybe we're a little better for him even
Speaker 1: entering today, but after today, it feels like Mitch Bratt's
Speaker 1: spot is probably pretty safe.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 3: I got asked about this on Reddit, and any of
Speaker 3: our reddit friends that are tuning in tonight have already
Speaker 3: seen my response, so this won't be news to you.
Speaker 3: Of course, I don't know what the team is going
Speaker 3: to do, but their options more or less line out
Speaker 3: like this. You know, they a number one, they either
Speaker 3: option Bratt or Drake. Most likely it's option Drake in
Speaker 3: that scenario when Soroka comes back or be they move
Speaker 3: one of Bratt or Drake, and again most likely Drake
Speaker 3: goes to the bullpen, in which case, if they do that,
Speaker 3: then somebody needs to be removed from the bullpen, and
Speaker 3: your options there would be to of course, you know,
Speaker 3: they just brought Phill Babner back that they could option him,
Speaker 3: They could option Coreo, or they could dfa Paul Seawald.
Speaker 3: So those are some of the options that they have
Speaker 3: there if they want to make a move. Now it
Speaker 3: looks like they're trying their best to get Paul Seawald right.
Speaker 3: They keep using him in these low livered situations. Doesn't
Speaker 3: look very good. So we'll see how that turns out.
Speaker 3: Maybe they're still evaluating, or maybe they're just you know,
Speaker 3: letting it play out the string here, But that's going
Speaker 3: to come to a head by Sunday Monday.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it'll be interesting to see what they what they
Speaker 1: do there. The Diamondbacks don't really have a designated long
Speaker 1: man right now.
Speaker 4: Certainly Brat or Drake. If you were to move.
Speaker 1: Them into into the bullpen, they could they could give
Speaker 1: you a few innings and maybe that would be nice.
Speaker 1: As the Diamondbacks walk through this stretch of playing a
Speaker 1: whole lot of games with not much time off, they
Speaker 1: they managed to survive up to this point, they do
Speaker 1: have guys who could maybe give him a couple of innings.
Speaker 1: Herado Correo has certainly done that. I don't think option
Speaker 1: in Careo is really an option. I mean, I know
Speaker 1: it technically is. But he's looked really, really good for
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks out of the bullpen, to the point that
Speaker 1: Carreo might play his way into more of a high
Speaker 1: leverage role here before too long.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, we'll see how that happens.
Speaker 2: I think for now he's probably still going to be
Speaker 2: in length and lower leverage.
Speaker 3: I don't think that's gonna happen quickly unless there's injury
Speaker 3: and they get forced into it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's fair well. Cole Drake is making the start
Speaker 1: tomorrow against the San Diego Padres. He'll be opposed by
Speaker 1: Walker Buehler. Another really big game here is where the
Speaker 1: standings sit after this one Diamondbacks at sixty one and
Speaker 1: fifty four. They are tied with the Phillies for the
Speaker 1: second and third wild card spots. Phillies lost ten to
Speaker 1: four in eleven innings to the Nationals, which is kind
Speaker 1: of wild. They gave up six runs in the top
Speaker 1: of the eleventh. Padre is now two games behind the
Speaker 1: Phillies and d Backs on the outside looking in Marlin's
Speaker 1: three games out, Cardinals four, Pirates four and a half,
Speaker 1: and then the Reds at five and the Nationals at
Speaker 1: five and a half. So we knew how big these
Speaker 1: games were.
Speaker 4: Jack.
Speaker 1: If the Diamondbacks could find a way to win this
Speaker 1: series tomorrow, that would be pretty enormous.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that I'm greedy the fact that the
Speaker 3: Dodgers lost six in a row. If the d Backs
Speaker 3: can win tomorrow and then have a good series against
Speaker 3: the Dodgers. Can I dream on the division being put
Speaker 3: in play?
Speaker 1: Just saying, I mean, I get so, I don't see.
Speaker 1: I don't even have the NL West standings.
Speaker 4: We haven't.
Speaker 1: We haven't looked at the NL West standings in quite
Speaker 1: a while at this point. But pulling it up on
Speaker 1: my computer here, the Diamondbacks are eight games behind the
Speaker 1: Dodgers in the NL West. I think, I mean, could
Speaker 1: the d Bacs get it down to like four or
Speaker 1: five games and get it to the point where you
Speaker 1: could say it was a race. I think that's possible.
Speaker 1: The Dodgers, bizarrely, are in a huge rut right now.
Speaker 1: They've they've gotten swept in back to back series. They
Speaker 1: won't play again until they play the Diamondbacks here this weekend.
Speaker 1: But the amount of talent on that roster, it's hard
Speaker 1: for me to go too far down that road. I'm
Speaker 1: sorry to burst your bubble there, Jack.
Speaker 3: No, it's not bursting my bubble. I'm just sitting here thinking, boy,
Speaker 3: that would be funny as heck.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean it would be awesome. Is I'll get out.
Speaker 3: I mean, you know, you'd have to hold me by
Speaker 3: my ankles to keep it from floating away. But I
Speaker 3: just think the humor value of that. If somehow someway,
Speaker 3: after everything that's been said and done, the Dodgers didn't
Speaker 3: win the NL West, that would just be the coolest
Speaker 3: thing ever.
Speaker 4: That would be. That would be pretty wild.
Speaker 1: One other note on one of the other NL contenders.
Speaker 1: I mentioned the Phillies lost that game ten to four.
Speaker 1: I don't want to burst your bubble here, Jack, but
Speaker 1: Brooks Raley gave up a couple of runs in that game,
Speaker 1: took a blown save for the Phillies, And I know
Speaker 1: you were talking about Raley maybe as a candidate for
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks. Caleb Killian also someone that the Phillies traded for.
Speaker 1: Killian gave up five runs, four of them earned Killian
Speaker 1: acquired in a deal with the San Francisco Giants. So
Speaker 1: just more evidence that no matter what you do at
Speaker 1: the trade deadline, like anything can happen over two months,
Speaker 1: regardless of the names that you bring in.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't really have a whole lot to say there.
Speaker 2: That kind of silences me.
Speaker 1: Brooks Raley still probably would have been a nice acquisition
Speaker 1: for the Diamondbacks, despite the fact that he gave up
Speaker 1: two runs tonight.
Speaker 3: Kind of going back to my thoughts on you know,
Speaker 3: maybe Drake going to the bullpen, you know, another lefty
Speaker 3: down there again, Maybe that that's something that would help
Speaker 3: free up Garcia to kind of assume the closes role
Speaker 3: as a bona fide closer, as the closer you know.
Speaker 3: Right now, obviously they probably can't afford to do that.
Speaker 3: They still have to play the matchups. But you know,
Speaker 3: if Drake's pitching well and they find him effective and
Speaker 3: they want to slot him in there when there's a
Speaker 3: couple of lefties, you know, that's an opportunity as well.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's a good call.
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks did add another lefty to the bullpen today, Philip
Speaker 1: Abner was recalled from Triple A reno. The d Backs
Speaker 1: placed Ryan Thompson on the fifteen day iol with a
Speaker 1: strain lower back. So certainly some shuffling still going around
Speaker 1: with that group. We have more to get to on
Speaker 1: this episode. We're going to talk about the Diamondbacks shaking
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Speaker 1: in this one will dive into that as well as
Speaker 1: a couple of other final items. So don't go anywhere.
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Speaker 1: something you've been talking about for much of this season
Speaker 1: is the Diamondback struggles, not just out of the leadoff
Speaker 1: spot in the lineup, but just literally the first at
Speaker 1: bat in the game, whoever is leading off, they're at
Speaker 1: bat in the first inning, just trying to set the
Speaker 1: tone for the Diamondbacks offense throughout the game. And you
Speaker 1: pulled these numbers over from Baseball Reference. These are those numbers.
Speaker 1: These are for every single game the Diamondbacks have played
Speaker 1: this season, what has happened with the guy took the
Speaker 1: very first at bat? And those at bats this season
Speaker 1: have been taken by four players entering today, Catel Marte,
Speaker 1: Heraldo Perdomo, Ildemara Vargas and Corbyn Carroll. So that's one
Speaker 1: hundred and fourteen played appearances altogether, and those guys have
Speaker 1: hit one ninety one with three homers and a five
Speaker 1: to ninety seven OPS. It is quite underwhelming, to say
Speaker 1: the least. And if we flip it over now to
Speaker 1: the guy who took that at bat in this game,
Speaker 1: this is Lars Newtbar. His career numbers in that leadoff
Speaker 1: slot as the first hitter of the game. He is
Speaker 1: a career two sixty seven hitter with an eight sixteen OPS,
Speaker 1: seven home runs in that spot, twenty three walks compared
Speaker 1: to twenty nine strikeouts, and he walked today. He kind
Speaker 1: of showed the sort of a bat that he's able
Speaker 1: to draw in those spots. So this is something the
Speaker 1: dbacs are going to try for a little while here
Speaker 1: with Newt Bar in the leadoff spot. And I, for one,
Speaker 1: Jack think it's a pretty good idea.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And I want to emphasize, actually the one number
Speaker 3: you didn't read off was the OBP the on base percentage,
Speaker 3: which to me is the most important one.
Speaker 2: So you know, new Bar has.
Speaker 3: A career three sixty two on base percentage. First batter
Speaker 3: of game, we saw him take a walk tonight, you know,
Speaker 3: saw a six six pitch walk, and that's exactly what
Speaker 3: he's capable of doing. If you go back to the
Speaker 3: other table, that on base percentage was two fifty four.
Speaker 3: And we know Katel struggled this year. But also I mean,
Speaker 3: like if you look at Prodomo Vargas and Carol in
Speaker 3: the tw only six games that they've led off, they've
Speaker 3: gotten on base a combined five times, that's under two
Speaker 3: hundred on base percentage. So you know, clearly, for whatever reason,
Speaker 3: these guys just mostly could tell have struggled in the
Speaker 3: first half bat of the game. And it does not
Speaker 3: set the tone for you. And how many times have
Speaker 3: we seen the d Backs offense, you know, start slowly
Speaker 3: and then you either have to hope that the bottom
Speaker 3: of the order brings things back around or they get
Speaker 3: going the second time through, and then they got to
Speaker 3: play come from behind baseball, and Dbacks I think have
Speaker 3: the most or second most come from behind wins in
Speaker 3: baseball this year. But it doesn't have to be that hard.
Speaker 3: Downhill baseball is a thing. It's easier to pitch, it's
Speaker 3: easier to play. You play less tense on defense if
Speaker 3: you're able to score early. And so you know, if
Speaker 3: Lars Newbar is able to come in here now as
Speaker 3: a left handed batter, I expect him to start against
Speaker 3: right handers.
Speaker 2: Don't know, you know how many.
Speaker 3: Starts he'll get against lefties, And if he does start
Speaker 3: against the lefty, I don't think it's going to be
Speaker 3: at the top of the order. But for the seventy
Speaker 3: percent of games that they start against a right handed pitcher,
Speaker 3: I expect that new Bar should be at the top
Speaker 3: of the order and hopefully give us better results because
Speaker 3: we've just the team has really struggled.
Speaker 2: With this.
Speaker 1: Nootbar so far as a member of the Diamondbacks. It's
Speaker 1: just the nine played appearances, he's gone one for six,
Speaker 1: but he's drawn three walks, and it feels like for
Speaker 1: Neotbar joining this Diamondbacks team, the number that really matters
Speaker 1: the most is the one you were just talking about.
Speaker 1: It's on base percentage. The d Bacs just need guys
Speaker 1: who can get on base against right handed pitching. It's
Speaker 1: it's been a really big area of struggle throughout the season,
Speaker 1: and of course a big part of that is that
Speaker 1: kateell Marte and Corbyn Carroll just have not been their
Speaker 1: usual selves against right handed pitching. Katel, of course sat
Speaker 1: this game. Tory decided to give him a day off
Speaker 1: entirely where he wasn't even in the lineup at DH.
Speaker 1: You look at Catel's numbers since July fourth, He's hitting
Speaker 1: one seventy eight with a five thirty five OPS. The
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks are still sixteen and ten in that span. They've
Speaker 1: continued to win despite Katel and Corbyn and Carroll struggling
Speaker 1: quite a bit offensively. But when I just think more
Speaker 1: broadly about this baseball team, like the way the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: get to the playoffs and make a run like, I
Speaker 1: think it is possible because Corbyn, Carroll and ktel Marte
Speaker 1: have in recent history been two of the best positioned
Speaker 1: players in baseball. We just haven't seen that recently, and
Speaker 1: the Diamondbacks to get where they want to go, they
Speaker 1: really need those guys to get going.
Speaker 3: Yeah, when they talk about bringing back players or making
Speaker 3: additions after the deadline, those two guys kind of just
Speaker 3: returning somewhat to form would be like adding new players
Speaker 3: at the deadline.
Speaker 2: So it's another spind it if you'd like.
Speaker 1: I put out this tweet yesterday just comparing the Big Three,
Speaker 1: So Corbin and Catel alongside Heraldo Perdomo, their production from
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five to this season. It's an eight seventy
Speaker 1: five OPS. Last year, they slash two seventy seven three
Speaker 1: seventy five oh five seventy nine home runs, about eighteen
Speaker 1: wins above replacement if you average Baseball Reference and Fangrafts.
Speaker 1: This season, this was entering yesterday, those three guys have
Speaker 1: combined for a seven to sixty five OPS with fifty
Speaker 1: two or I guess these are the on pace numbers,
Speaker 1: so they would be on pace to hit sixty three
Speaker 1: home runs in twenty twenty six. It's sixteen shy of
Speaker 1: a season ago, and they're on pace for about twelve
Speaker 1: wins above replacement. So you're talking about, you know, roughly
Speaker 1: six war away from where they were a season ago.
Speaker 1: It's a really big difference, and I think that's one
Speaker 1: of the biggest factors for this team down the stretch.
Speaker 1: I guess on the positive side, Jack Corbyn, Carrol did
Speaker 1: reach base three times today and drew a nine pitch
Speaker 1: walk in his first at bat. It felt like a
Speaker 1: push in the positive direction for him.
Speaker 3: Yeah, stole a base, scored a round, drove in or run.
Speaker 3: As a Nesto points out in the chat, he also
Speaker 3: showed a little bit of fire. He spun up and
Speaker 3: kind of glared out at the mound a little pissed off.
Speaker 2: But then he kind of immediately de escalated the situation.
Speaker 3: So I even, you know, texted a friend and I said, hey,
Speaker 3: is this going to be the game we point to
Speaker 3: as the day Corbyn Carrol turned around?
Speaker 2: So hopefully this is it. They were good looking at bats.
Speaker 3: He took some tough pitches, like your Nesto said, pretty
Speaker 3: good stuff. So you know, just for me, for Corbyn
Speaker 3: to get on base, steel bases be disruptive, and then
Speaker 3: once you find your groove, sure the extra base hits
Speaker 3: will start coming again. But just get on base somehow.
Speaker 3: Stop swinging it stuff you can't hit. That's it. I mean,
Speaker 3: with his speed, he can contribute so much just by
Speaker 3: getting on base and the rest of it will come naturally.
Speaker 3: You know, he's tremendous hitter, tremendous athlete, but sometimes maybe
Speaker 3: he tinkers too much.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's fair. We know that.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think that's one of Corbyn's greatest strengths
Speaker 1: is that his drive to get better is second to none.
Speaker 1: But yeah, maybe from time to time he kind of
Speaker 1: overcorrects on something and it takes him a while to
Speaker 1: backtrack and kind of, you know, get back to a
Speaker 1: good place offensively. I do want to circle back to
Speaker 1: Mitch Bratt real quick, Jack, as we wrap things up here.
Speaker 1: I just think the fact that over the past couple
Speaker 1: of days there's been so much negative energy about the
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks not getting a starting pitcher and even people in
Speaker 1: the organization speaking pretty openly about wishing they had been
Speaker 1: able to do more. I'm just thinking about what that
Speaker 1: would be like from Bratt perspective, to kind of be
Speaker 1: on the receiving end of like, oh, like people were
Speaker 1: hoping that I would be replaced, and instead I had
Speaker 1: an opportunity to go out there and kind of show
Speaker 1: what I could do. And I just think it speaks
Speaker 1: to maybe some mental toughness. I mean, obviously I have
Speaker 1: not been able to talk to Brad about this one
Speaker 1: on one, but I imagine for him those thoughts would
Speaker 1: be unavoidable of like, oh my gosh, Like you know,
Speaker 1: people really thought we should have gotten the starting picture
Speaker 1: and we didn't. And so I'm still in the rotation.
Speaker 1: And he responded in as good of a way as
Speaker 1: you could possibly hope for.
Speaker 3: Yeah, actually he was asked about that while you were
Speaker 3: busy getting all the elements to the show ready. I
Speaker 3: was inside of my couch listening to the broadcast. So
Speaker 3: Jesse does a real work around.
Speaker 2: Everybody just goes.
Speaker 3: But the broadcast asked him about that, Mark Grays and
Speaker 3: Jody Jackson was dressed. He was very you know, humble
Speaker 3: about it, and he just expressed gratitude to the organization
Speaker 3: and for putting him in the position where he'd have
Speaker 3: an opportunity to show what he can do, whether it's
Speaker 3: a coaching staff, you know, the front office, management, everything,
Speaker 3: just getting him here and putting him in the.
Speaker 2: Spot to perform.
Speaker 3: And like you said, I mean, he showed that he
Speaker 3: has some mental toughness and it just went out there
Speaker 3: and did it. Now, you know, look, almost to a man,
Speaker 3: if you make it to major League baseball, you're mentally tough.
Speaker 3: I mean, there's you know, getting to that part of
Speaker 3: the pyramid of talent in baseball through youth baseball and
Speaker 3: high school and college and you know, all the way
Speaker 3: up through the minors and actually getting to the show.
Speaker 3: It's so difficult to begin with. There isn't almost any
Speaker 3: of these guys that aren't actually haven't dealt with, you know,
Speaker 3: a lot of struggles and failure to get here in
Speaker 3: the first place. So they're tough and they're battle hardened
Speaker 3: just to get here. But at this level it can
Speaker 3: be so humbling, so fast. And that's where Brad has
Speaker 3: stood out is that he doesn't seem phase by it.
Speaker 3: You know, even with his kind of funky follow through
Speaker 3: and delivery and all of that, but whatever he's facing
Speaker 3: out there in the speed of the game, he actually
Speaker 3: doesn't seem phase by it.
Speaker 2: So that's impressed me the most.
Speaker 1: Diamondbacks with the win tonight, improved to thirty three and
Speaker 1: twenty three at Chase Field, That's something that I don't
Speaker 1: know that I'd even realize that they have actually played
Speaker 1: quite well in games at home this season and they
Speaker 1: have another big one tomorrow against the San Diego Padres.
Speaker 4: It's not your typical.
Speaker 1: Day get away day game sort of situation. It's another
Speaker 1: six forty pm start, and then the Diamondbacks welcome in
Speaker 1: the Dodgers for three games this weekend, followed by the
Speaker 1: Colorado Rockies early next week. So extended home stand here
Speaker 1: for the Diamondbacks much deserved after they were on the
Speaker 1: road for seemingly forever, going to four different four different cities.
Speaker 1: It's sort of the least that Major League Baseball could
Speaker 1: do after they went through that. But these games continue
Speaker 1: to be really important, Jack, I mean, I think there's
Speaker 1: a pretty good chance that the d Backs Padres series
Speaker 1: at the very end of the season, the d Backs
Speaker 1: end the year in San Diego.
Speaker 4: Decent chance.
Speaker 1: Those games are meaningful, and the more wins you can
Speaker 1: rack up right now leading up to that series, it
Speaker 1: really could change the equation in a huge ways. As
Speaker 1: the season is coming to a close.
Speaker 2: Oh, I think you can just take it to the bank.
Speaker 3: It's going to be the fourth straight season that we
Speaker 3: get down to the final weekend to find out whether
Speaker 3: or not the Diamondbacks are going to make the playoffs
Speaker 3: or not. I would take that to the bank. Imagine
Speaker 3: that four years. It's already been three. This year is
Speaker 3: likely to be four years in a row where we're
Speaker 3: going to need to see them get through that final
Speaker 3: weekend victoriously to secure a spot in the player How
Speaker 3: about that, folks?
Speaker 4: Is that good? I'm trying trying to figure out.
Speaker 2: That just is what it is. I mean, it's exciting.
Speaker 2: It keeps you on the hook all year.
Speaker 4: Right, that's true. That's true.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the Diamondbacks even last year after selling it the deadline,
Speaker 1: they managed to kind of get back in the race
Speaker 1: and they had all of us interested up until the
Speaker 1: final days.
Speaker 4: Of the season.
Speaker 1: So yes, another very big game against the San Diego
Speaker 1: Padres tomorrow, and then, as Jack was talking about earlier,
Speaker 1: who knows, maybe the n West comes into play and
Speaker 1: those head to head games against the Dodgers wind up
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Speaker 1: As we say goodbye.
Speaker 3: I gotta give it up to Wes once again. I
Speaker 3: gotta give him as I told you so he said,
Speaker 3: I told you that Brat's deception, late movement, you know.
Speaker 2: Something along those lines. We're a difference makers.
Speaker 4: And so far so good, So far, so good.
Speaker 1: Big day for Mitch Brad, Big day for the Diamondbacks
Speaker 1: is they take the second game. There are now one
Speaker 1: two out of three here against San Diego. They go
Speaker 1: for the series win tomorrow. Thank you again to all
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