Speaker 1: Welcome. It is Verdical Center, Ted Cruz, it is nice
Speaker 1: to have you with us. It is official. Twelve oh
Speaker 1: one am. The United States government is shut down. The
Speaker 1: Democrats they did it on purpose. Apparently it was their plan.
Speaker 1: And the question is for how long have they been
Speaker 1: planning on doing this. This is going to be a
Speaker 1: very interesting show. This all revolves around the Senate. That
Speaker 1: is something that maybe some people don't realize. Everything's come
Speaker 1: out of the House. We're now to the Senate side
Speaker 1: of things, and I want you to explain what it
Speaker 1: was like in the hours leading up to this shutdown.
Speaker 1: Was there ever a chance in hell that the government
Speaker 1: wasn't going to shut down?
Speaker 2: No, there was never a chance. It is just after midnight,
Speaker 2: so the government is shut down just for a few minutes.
Speaker 2: But I think the government shutdown is going to last
Speaker 2: at the minimum of days, it may be weeks, and
Speaker 2: it may even be longer. Really, yes, this could extend
Speaker 2: for a significant period of time. And understand this is
Speaker 2: the Democrats roar that they hate Donald Trump. So I
Speaker 2: got to say we had the vote tonight. There was
Speaker 2: no surprise. Everyone knew the outcome out of one hundred
Speaker 2: senators all of us knew the outcome. The vote was
Speaker 2: fifty five to forty five. So three Democrat senators voted
Speaker 2: to keep the government open.
Speaker 1: You have a pretty big deal, right, I mean, did
Speaker 1: you think those three were going to go?
Speaker 3: Where?
Speaker 1: Did you think it was going to be a unanimous vote?
Speaker 1: I mean Fetterman and two others like that's that is significant?
Speaker 2: Yeah, Look Fetterman, I was not surprised. So Fetterman voted
Speaker 2: to keep the government open, Cortes Master voter to keep
Speaker 2: the government open, and Angus King voted to keep the
Speaker 2: government open. That's not shocking to me. It's fifty five
Speaker 2: to forty five. Now why did the government shut down? Look,
Speaker 2: the basic operation of government is the federal government cannot
Speaker 2: continue to operate unless Congress appropriates funds. Under the Constitution,
Speaker 2: Congress has the power of the purse, so Congress appropriates
Speaker 2: the spending of money. A typical fiscal year is October
Speaker 2: first to September thirtieth.
Speaker 3: YEP.
Speaker 2: This particular funding ended at midnight on September thirtieth. You
Speaker 2: and I are recording this just after minutes after midnight
Speaker 2: on September thirtieth. The appropriation, the authorization for Congress to
Speaker 2: spend money expired minutes ago. Now, there are a couple
Speaker 2: of ways you can extend the government funding. One is
Speaker 2: an appropriation and so they're typically in a good year.
Speaker 2: They are thirteen appropriation bills that fund each different kind
Speaker 2: of major segment of government. For a number of years,
Speaker 2: the appropriation bills have not passed. The other major way
Speaker 2: that government authorization occurs is through what are called crs.
Speaker 2: CR is short for continue resolution. A continue resolution is
Speaker 2: essentially Congress saying what we are spending now, we can
Speaker 2: continue continue the status quo identically for x period of time. Now,
Speaker 2: the House of Representatives pasted a CR, a clean CR,
Speaker 2: to fund the federal government through the middle of November.
Speaker 2: So if the Senate had passed it.
Speaker 1: Oh right. Let's be clear. When you say a clean CR,
Speaker 1: that means no political shananigans in it. It's literally saying,
Speaker 1: we're taking the twenty five budget year and we're going
Speaker 1: to say the exact same amount we spent in August,
Speaker 1: we're going to spend September, October, November until we get
Speaker 1: the new budget. There is no port barrel extras, there's
Speaker 1: no political sheanigan against from either side.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, Okay, a clean CR says what we
Speaker 2: spent yesterday is what we'll spend tomorrow, that everything just
Speaker 2: continues the same, and that's what the House has passed. Now.
Speaker 2: The challenge is for anything to pass the Senate that
Speaker 2: is in the nature of an appropriations or a CR,
Speaker 2: it takes sixty votes because under the filibuster rule, you've
Speaker 2: got to have sixty votes to move forward on legislation. So,
Speaker 2: as I mentioned, we got fifty five. We got three Democrats,
Speaker 2: but we need sixty, which means we need at least
Speaker 2: seven Democrats. And actually here we need eight Democrats because
Speaker 2: Ran Paul voted no. So we had fifty two Republicans
Speaker 2: vote yes, and we needed eight Democrats to vote yes
Speaker 2: to fund the government. Well, we only got three, and.
Speaker 1: That was on purpose. And I want to pause just
Speaker 1: for a second to go back to CR historically. Let's
Speaker 1: just go back to Biden's time in office, when you
Speaker 1: guys were in the minority. If I'm not mistaken, you
Speaker 1: guys did this more than a dozen times, where you
Speaker 1: can't and say, hey, thirteen times, all right, So thirteen
Speaker 1: different times y'all came together and said we're gonna spend
Speaker 1: exactly what we spent yesterday to keep the government open,
Speaker 1: so we avoid a government shut down. And you put
Speaker 1: the American people ahead of politics. And that is a
Speaker 1: bipartisan moment, right, They had to have some of your votes.
Speaker 2: So look, every time we came to the end of
Speaker 2: government funding, you would have enough Republicans joined with Democrats
Speaker 2: to keep the government funded. Now what has changed, Well,
Speaker 2: several months ago we had another expiration of government funding.
Speaker 2: And what happened is Chuck Schumer and the Democrats decided, Okay,
Speaker 2: let's keep the government going, a very reasonable and very
Speaker 2: common sense, a very normal decision. The Democratic left wing
Speaker 2: base lost their mind and Chuck Schumer nearly lost his
Speaker 2: job because Schumer allowed the government to be funded several
Speaker 2: months ago, the left wing rose up against him. And
Speaker 2: you want to understand why we have a shutdown. It's
Speaker 2: one thing. Schumer is looking over his left shoulder and
Speaker 2: he sees aoc running up behind him, and he is
Speaker 2: terrified he's gonna lose his job. So listen, Schumer knows
Speaker 2: this is not gonna work. He knows this is failures.
Speaker 1: Just pure cover your als politics one oh one by Schumer.
Speaker 2: So the radical left wing, they hate Trump, and they
Speaker 2: want today to be a giant f you to Trump.
Speaker 2: They want it to be we hate President Trump, and
Speaker 2: we hate President Trump so much we're gonna shut the
Speaker 2: entire government down because rar that's what we're watching now.
Speaker 1: By the way, So then hold on, when did this
Speaker 1: become the plan? Was this weeks ago? Months ago? Was
Speaker 1: this when they had the last years? I got the
Speaker 1: next time it comes up, I have no choice. I
Speaker 1: got to shut down the government to flex my muscles.
Speaker 1: And also there is a real concern by him that
Speaker 1: AOC is going to run against him, primary him in
Speaker 1: the Senate. By the way, that is after the next
Speaker 1: president's election cycle? Was that and that isn't he up
Speaker 1: two years after? Are not mistaken?
Speaker 2: So be.
Speaker 3: So.
Speaker 2: And to be clear, I predicted on this podcast the
Speaker 2: inaugural member the chairman of the AOC for President campaign
Speaker 2: is Chuck Schumer. Because he is desperate for AOC not
Speaker 2: to primary him. He's gonna say, Alexandra, you are such
Speaker 2: a big deal, you were so important. Really, the Senate's
Speaker 2: too small for you. Why do you want to bother
Speaker 2: being in the Senate. You should be in the White House.
Speaker 2: Schumer is going to be all in on that, but
Speaker 2: he is living with absolute PTSD. He is traumatized. He
Speaker 2: sees left wing antifa crazies coming around on every side,
Speaker 2: and so from his end, this shutdown is necessary politically. Now,
Speaker 2: what did the Democrats demand? They demanded a lot of things.
Speaker 2: You know what the number one demand was, what's that?
Speaker 2: Free healthcare for illegals all over the country.
Speaker 1: By the way, I mean when you think about at
Speaker 1: and the polling data and what it says, I don't
Speaker 1: understand why that would make your number one thing. Because
Speaker 1: it's clear that the people are behind President Trump. Securing
Speaker 1: our borders, stopping government waste for aunt of abuse dogs
Speaker 1: was a big part of it. And also making sure
Speaker 1: that we're not giving out benefits to illegal immigrants. Like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: we want to spend one point five trillion if you
Speaker 1: want our votes, and it has to be for health
Speaker 1: care for illegal immigrants and food stamps for people that
Speaker 1: are able bodied, for example, that refuse to work. That's
Speaker 1: another thing, And they're like, no, no, no, we buy gal.
Speaker 1: You better get minded people that are just straight up lazy,
Speaker 1: that aren't that that have the ability to work, but
Speaker 1: you got to pay them to stay home.
Speaker 2: Yeah, a huge pump chunk of this is getting rid
Speaker 2: of the work requirement for government benefits. Democrats don't want
Speaker 2: anyone to have to work. They wanted them to be
Speaker 2: able to sit at home and get government checks. But
Speaker 2: did you see the AI video of the White House
Speaker 2: put out?
Speaker 1: Which one they put out a couple different things. Which
Speaker 1: one are you talking about?
Speaker 2: I want you, I want I want to play this
Speaker 2: for everyone. Okay, this is fake So all the nattering nabobs,
Speaker 2: this is fake news. But it is absolutely hysterical that
Speaker 2: the White House put out. This is Chuck Schumer and
Speaker 2: a King Jeffreys explaining what this shutdown is all about.
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Speaker 3: He's a dark figure walking through the garage, points that
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Speaker 1: here is that audio. Yes, as you mentioned earlier, this
Speaker 1: is a spoof. It is like Saturday Night Live, except
Speaker 1: it's coming from President Donald Trump's account, which is the
Speaker 1: best part about it. Take a listen to this. Look, guys,
Speaker 1: there's no way to sugarcoat it. Nobody likes Democrats anymore.
Speaker 4: We have no voters left because of all of our
Speaker 4: woke trans bullsh Not even black people want to vote
Speaker 4: for us anymore. Even Latinos hate us. So we need
Speaker 4: new voters. And if we give all these illegal aliens
Speaker 4: free healthcare here, we might be able to get them
Speaker 4: on our side so they can vote for us. They
Speaker 4: can't even speak English, so they won't realize we're just
Speaker 4: a bunch of woke pieces of ship, you know, at
Speaker 4: least for a while until they learn English and they
Speaker 4: realize they hate us too.
Speaker 1: See, this is when I love AI. This is when
Speaker 1: I absolutely love the spoof from the President. And if
Speaker 1: you can't see this, you need to go look at
Speaker 1: it we put up on social media, the videos and
Speaker 1: Importphreeze has got a really nice Hannibar mustache and a
Speaker 1: sombrero on.
Speaker 2: So look, pause for a second and realize that was
Speaker 2: released by the White House. That was released by the
Speaker 2: President of the United States. I feel a little guilty
Speaker 2: because we've got some cursewords in there. We try to
Speaker 2: avoid cursewords on this podcast. But what do you do
Speaker 2: when the president has put that out?
Speaker 3: You put it?
Speaker 2: And I gotta say, the video sits today at lunch.
Speaker 2: So every Tuesday, Wednesday and Thursday, all the publican senators
Speaker 2: have lunch together. Today at lunch, John Thune met with
Speaker 2: the President, met with Schumer, met with the King Jeffries
Speaker 2: at the White House. And so Thune was giving us
Speaker 2: a download on that. And you know, Thune was talking about, Okay,
Speaker 2: the Democrats, they don't want to cut a deal. They're
Speaker 2: not willing to give it on anything. And I will confess.
Speaker 2: I raised my hand. I question. I said, John was
Speaker 2: a King Jeffries wearing the sombrero.
Speaker 1: And what did he say?
Speaker 2: He just laughed. But look and everyone cracked up. But
Speaker 2: that image. Listen, the Democrats have literally shut down the
Speaker 2: federal government because they want free health care for every
Speaker 2: illegal alien in America.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you want to.
Speaker 2: Talk about, like on every issue that's eighty twenty or
Speaker 2: even ninety ten, they're on the twenty or the ten side.
Speaker 2: The American people do not support. If you want to
Speaker 2: have a referendum in this country, should we give illegals
Speaker 2: free health care? Wow, that will be overwhelming. But here's
Speaker 2: the secret. This shutdown is not actually about free health
Speaker 2: care for illegals. That's what the Democrats have hung their
Speaker 2: hat on because they got to say they want.
Speaker 1: So they gotta say something, right, This is.
Speaker 2: All about just we hate Donald Trump and it is
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer job preservation. And that also means the end
Speaker 2: of this. Okay, there's no universe in which Chuck Schumer
Speaker 2: will get President Trump to agree to let's give free
Speaker 2: health care to illegals.
Speaker 1: Yeah, not gonna happen. They know that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're entering. There's no universe in which Republicans in
Speaker 2: Congress are going to say, hey, that's a great idea,
Speaker 2: let's give free health care to every illegal. Like that's
Speaker 2: you might as well ask for Area fifty one, like
Speaker 2: to release the Martians and let them take over the country. Yeah,
Speaker 2: that is as likely to happen as free health care
Speaker 2: for illegals from Republicans. The Democrats know that this is
Speaker 2: not about getting what they're demanding. This is about how
Speaker 2: long do they want to demonstrate Orange Man bad?
Speaker 1: Yeah and so and the radical base is what has
Speaker 1: put them in this scenario. Right, I guess do you
Speaker 1: actually believe. And let's go back to the history of
Speaker 1: the Senate here. I don't believe that Chuck Schumer actually
Speaker 1: wanted to shut down the government. No, No, I think
Speaker 1: he was forced to do it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he would lose his job. He would lose his
Speaker 2: job if the government was it.
Speaker 1: Was self preservation.
Speaker 2: Yes.
Speaker 1: In other words, this is weird. Chuck Schumer is being
Speaker 1: held hostage by the Marxist communists and socialists in his party,
Speaker 1: which they did not police and they allowed to take
Speaker 1: over their party. Then he's now holding the American people
Speaker 1: hostage with a government shut down, which brings me the
Speaker 1: big question. Even when we've had shutdowns in the past,
Speaker 1: there has been some agreement center like, hey, certain people
Speaker 1: should deserve to get paid, those that are in the military,
Speaker 1: those badges, like the list is not that long, but
Speaker 1: the essential important people that deserve to get a paycheck.
Speaker 1: We don't screw with them when they're protecting to fing
Speaker 1: this country, can you guys, at least was there an
Speaker 1: agreement to pay them? Really? Okay, so walk us through that,
Speaker 1: because I'm assuming that came up at lunch.
Speaker 2: So one of the things I did today is I
Speaker 2: sent a letter because under the Constitution, Members of Congress,
Speaker 2: our pay cannot be stopped. It's actually unconstitutional to reduce
Speaker 2: the compensation for members of Congress during the term we're
Speaker 2: elected to. So I sent a letter and I've done
Speaker 2: this during every shutdown, saying while the government is shut down,
Speaker 2: don't pay me. It's not fair. It's not right for
Speaker 2: an elected member of Congress to receive a paycheck when
Speaker 2: federal workers are not. Now, to be clear, I don't
Speaker 2: lose my pay when the shutdown is over. I'll get
Speaker 2: but it's deferred.
Speaker 1: But a lot of I don't understand that the long
Speaker 1: which if I think just asinine, and I have family
Speaker 1: members work in the federal government, and they're like, the
Speaker 1: dumb part about this that I think a lot of
Speaker 1: Americans don't understand, yep, is that you don't miss a
Speaker 1: paycheck in your calendar year. You just miss a month
Speaker 1: and then you get it back data, you get it
Speaker 1: back the next time whenever the government does open back up.
Speaker 1: And so I know people that are in the FA
Speaker 1: for example, and they're like, dude, we just plan our
Speaker 1: vacations like great trips around shutdowns because we know we're
Speaker 1: still getting paid. We save not everybody can do that.
Speaker 1: But like they've almost pre planned for this bonus vacation
Speaker 1: and they're gonna get paid back.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let me make several points of clarification. Sure
Speaker 2: number one, government shutdown as a misnomer. More than eighty
Speaker 2: percent of the government will continue to operate. So the
Speaker 2: basic principle is everything that is essential keeps going. So
Speaker 2: the military, our activity and military defending the nation against
Speaker 2: bad guys, that keeps going. The FBI catching criminals, that
Speaker 2: keeps going. The border patrol and ice that keeps going.
Speaker 2: The FAA air traffic controllers. Tomorrow, if you get on
Speaker 2: an airplane, the air traffic controllers all go to work.
Speaker 2: By the way, the air traffic controllers are not getting
Speaker 2: a paycheck, so they're going to work. But every two
Speaker 2: weeks federal government employees get paid. Air traffic controllers, coast guardsmen, military,
Speaker 2: the federal government. Nobody gets a paycheck. And so what
Speaker 2: shuts down. Every cabinet secretary was assigned designate among your
Speaker 2: employees who is essential and who is not essential. I
Speaker 2: remember when Bill Clinton was president, we had to shut down.
Speaker 3: Then.
Speaker 2: Remember Knute Gingrich and the Republican Congress were fighting with
Speaker 2: Bill Clinton. We had to shut down for a number
Speaker 2: of weeks, and I remember there was a headline that
Speaker 2: said the Department of Commerce designated thirty percent of their
Speaker 2: employees is a essentral and seventy percent is non essential.
Speaker 2: I remember thinking, that's great, we just set a new
Speaker 2: benchline all those non essential that's seventy percent they ought
Speaker 2: to be done. But what that means, so what will
Speaker 2: be shut down? Starting October one? National parks will be
Speaker 2: shut down. So I gotta say, if you were planning
Speaker 2: to take your family to Yosemite this weekend, yeah, I'm
Speaker 2: I'm sorry to say you're out of luck. Yosemite will
Speaker 2: be closed. If you were coming to d C to
Speaker 2: tour our nation's capitally, you wanted to go to the Smithsonian,
Speaker 2: go to the Air and Space Museum, it's the Smithsonian
Speaker 2: will be shut down. If you look at things like
Speaker 2: the National Institute of Health, like research on cancer, much
Speaker 2: of that will be shut down.
Speaker 1: All across that non essential. When people are going to
Speaker 1: say that seems insane, Why wouldn't we fix that to
Speaker 1: make sure when we have these shenanigans happen that that's
Speaker 1: not affected.
Speaker 2: And I think this shutdown will extend I think it'll
Speaker 2: be weeks. I think it will be Schumer is trying
Speaker 2: to protect his own rear end and everything else is
Speaker 2: secondary to protecting his own political life. So I think
Speaker 2: we will see an extended shutdown.
Speaker 1: So is this polling the I mean, how do you
Speaker 1: decide when you won or you lost if you're Schumer,
Speaker 1: Because this is not about the country hating Schumer. This
Speaker 1: is only about New York. I'm protecting a seat from AOC.
Speaker 1: So in essence, you don't care how many people hate
Speaker 1: you in the country. It's only a New York thing,
Speaker 1: is that. I mean, well, they do polling. I mean
Speaker 1: this is weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Look, so this is being called the Schumer shutdown. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and I got to say, the Democrats are losing the
Speaker 2: messaging battle. It is clear this is a Democrat shutdown.
Speaker 2: There was actually exchange right before we had the vote
Speaker 2: on the CR to keep the government open, and this
Speaker 2: is a clean CR. No rioters, no nothing, this is
Speaker 2: just keep the lights.
Speaker 1: On status quo.
Speaker 2: Schumer stood up and was speaking, and all the Senators
Speaker 2: or most of us, were standing on the Senate floor,
Speaker 2: and Schumer said, look, there's been reference to polling, but
Speaker 2: the polling has been biased. It's been right wing polling,
Speaker 2: for example, the New York Times. And I got to
Speaker 2: tell you, I and every other Republican we just started
Speaker 2: cracking up, laughing, and you could see Schumer he actually
Speaker 2: turned red, he looked sheepish because he just said on
Speaker 2: the Senate floor that the New York Times was a
Speaker 2: biased right wing poll.
Speaker 1: Yeah, seriously.
Speaker 2: And it was a moment where where like Schumer, you
Speaker 2: saw Democrats looking at him going, dude, you look like
Speaker 2: that's weak. And that's because the New York Times did
Speaker 2: a poll if the Democrats don't get everything they want,
Speaker 2: should they shut the government down? And sixty five percent
Speaker 2: of Americans said no, don't shut the government down. It
Speaker 2: was a small percentage. It was just over twenty percent
Speaker 2: of Americans that said, yeah, shut the government down. So
Speaker 2: that's who the Democrats are responding to. But they've got
Speaker 2: Schumer's message is the New York Times is a right
Speaker 2: wing mouthpiece, and how dare you tell the American people
Speaker 2: that we the Democrats, are shutting the government down. This
Speaker 2: is headed to failure. Everyone knows that, every Republican knows
Speaker 2: that every Democrat knows that is there an outcome where
Speaker 2: Republicans say, okay, great, let's fund healthcare free illegals. No,
Speaker 2: the Democrats will give in. Three Democrats voted to fund
Speaker 2: the government. What will happen is the government is shut down.
Speaker 2: People are going to get ticked off, people are gonna
Speaker 2: want to like use by the way, things like passport
Speaker 2: services will be greatly reduced. All sorts of government. Now listen.
Speaker 2: The military keeps going, law enforcement keep going, Social Security
Speaker 2: keeps going, Medicare keeps going, Medicaid keeps going, an awful
Speaker 2: lot of government keeps going. But the lack of government
Speaker 2: being open will be a serious function. At some point
Speaker 2: we will see seven or eight Democrats say enough is enough,
Speaker 2: reopen the government. That will happen. But let me tell
Speaker 2: you a huge piece that is an X factor in this,
Speaker 2: which is Russ Vote, who is the head of OMB,
Speaker 2: the Office of Management and Budget works for the White House.
Speaker 2: He put out a memo a week ago that said,
Speaker 2: if there is a government shutdown, we are going to
Speaker 2: lay off federal workers. We're not going to give them
Speaker 2: a furlough.
Speaker 3: Is hold on.
Speaker 1: This is the brilliant game of chess that was early
Speaker 1: on preemptive ye warning you do this and here's what
Speaker 1: we were going to do. And this might be one
Speaker 1: of the best movies I've seen politically in a long
Speaker 1: time in DC, which is go ahead, do it and
Speaker 1: watch what happens, because there a lot of people are
Speaker 1: gonna get lose their jobs and that's going to be
Speaker 1: on you guys for allowing it to happen. Right, So
Speaker 1: explain all that.
Speaker 2: Yes, So Russ is a good friend's strong conservative. He's
Speaker 2: a strong fiscal conservative. And what he said is, listen,
Speaker 2: if Congress decides not to fund the federal government, we
Speaker 2: are going to react to that by the White Houses
Speaker 2: instructed every cabinet agency to prepare a plan for a
Speaker 2: riff a reduction in force to give permanent layoffs pink
Speaker 2: slips to government bureaucrats who are left wing bureaucrats who
Speaker 2: are advancing the priorities of the Democrat Party. So what
Speaker 2: you are going to see in the next few days,
Speaker 2: you are going to see bureaucrats at the EPA fired.
Speaker 2: You're going to see bureaucrats at the Department of Labor fired.
Speaker 2: You're going to see bureaucrats at the RS fired. And
Speaker 2: within a couple of days we're going to see Democrat senators.
Speaker 2: They're going to be in their lunches screaming at each
Speaker 2: other because this is frankly an excuse for the Trump
Speaker 2: administration to do what they wanted to do anyway, which
Speaker 2: is get rid of left wing bureaucrats. But they now
Speaker 2: have an incredible justification, which is, hey, Congress chose not
Speaker 2: to fund them, so instead of giving them a paid vacation,
Speaker 2: stay home several weeks and then we'll pay you back
Speaker 2: pay and come back to your job. They're gonna even
Speaker 2: pick slip and say you're done. You no longer have
Speaker 2: a job. And I think that is going to ratchet
Speaker 2: up the pressure on Democrats massively.
Speaker 1: So how quickly can these firings take place? How massive
Speaker 1: could they be? And how much research has been done
Speaker 1: behind the scenes to get rid of a lot of
Speaker 1: these woke bureaucrats that we that we've been wanting to
Speaker 1: get rid of, that the presidents want to get rid of,
Speaker 1: the cabinet secretaries of wanting to get rid of like
Speaker 1: how I mean, I'm assuming they're burning the midnight oil
Speaker 1: kind of like doage did. Let's find the people we
Speaker 1: want to get rid of, and this is our chance
Speaker 1: to do it, and and and by the way, once
Speaker 1: it's done, like it's not like he got one from
Speaker 1: their jobs back, like it's done.
Speaker 2: So I think that starts happening today. I think October one,
Speaker 2: you start seeing pink slips. I think we will see
Speaker 2: left wing bureaucrats fired today. I think we'll see them
Speaker 2: fired tomorrow.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: This evening, I had dinner with the Deputy Secretary of
Speaker 2: HHS who's a longtime friend of mine. He was actually
Speaker 2: a groomsm in my wedding. Great guy, I asked him.
Speaker 2: I said, okay, the White House asked every cabinet agency
Speaker 2: preparing list of people for the riff, and he said, yeah,
Speaker 2: we're doing that. He said, every agency, when the White
Speaker 2: House directs us to do that, we do that. We're
Speaker 2: going to see I think hundreds, if not thousands of
Speaker 2: left wing bureaucrats fired in the next several days. I
Speaker 2: think that's going to put the Democrat Party in crisis.
Speaker 2: And by the way, we're not going to fire people
Speaker 2: that are critical for the priorities you and I care about.
Speaker 2: So we're not going to see border patrol agents who
Speaker 2: are securing the border fired. We're not going to see
Speaker 2: ice agents who are deporting gang bangers fired. We're not
Speaker 2: going to see FBI agents who are catching pedophiles, We're
Speaker 2: not going to see them fired. We're not going to
Speaker 2: see soldiers and sailors at airmen and marines who are
Speaker 2: keeping this nation safe. We're not going to see them fired.
Speaker 2: We're going to see bureaucrats who are shutting down factories,
Speaker 2: who are destroying jobs, who are pursuing radical left wing agendas.
Speaker 2: They're going to be the ones fired, and ultimately the
Speaker 2: Democrats are going to cave. The only question is how
Speaker 2: long Schumer wants to go through this charade before he gives.
Speaker 1: In, which brings me my final question, that is the
Speaker 1: media does seem to be covering this a little bit
Speaker 1: more with honesty than I've ever seen them before. Today
Speaker 1: there was a viral clip that is the tables have
Speaker 1: been turned. Democrats are now literally under fire for a
Speaker 1: clip that shows them slamming government shut down tactics, the
Speaker 1: same ones they're accused of using right now. And here's
Speaker 1: what it sounded like back in twenty eighteen. In December
Speaker 1: of twenty eight team Donald Trump's President Chuck schimern An's
Speaker 1: posy in the Oval Office listen.
Speaker 5: We do not want to shut down the government because
Speaker 5: you can me say something, mister President of North Dakota.
Speaker 6: And the most unfortunate, and we came in here in
Speaker 6: good faith and we're entering into this kind of a
Speaker 6: discussion in.
Speaker 3: The public.
Speaker 2: Transparency.
Speaker 5: I know, it's high transparency when we're not certipulating to.
Speaker 2: A set of facts.
Speaker 1: I mean, you listen to that one, they're like, we're
Speaker 1: not in favor of it. And then the speaker also
Speaker 1: put out a very interesting yes video montage reminding people
Speaker 1: the same thing, like, Hey, you guys think that it's
Speaker 1: the Democrats Mike Johnson putting this out and here he
Speaker 1: is and what he said to remind the people about
Speaker 1: Democrats in their own words, it is not.
Speaker 6: Normal to shut down the government when we don't get
Speaker 6: what we want.
Speaker 5: If the government shuts down, it will be average Americas
Speaker 5: who suffer most. A government shutdown means seniors who rely
Speaker 5: on Social Security could be thrown into chaos.
Speaker 2: Families will be hurt, farmers will be hurt. It's the
Speaker 2: service members who will work without a paycheck.
Speaker 6: I mean, it's the firefighters who will be furlough this
Speaker 6: shut down.
Speaker 1: You know who's going to feel the pain. You know
Speaker 1: who it hurts you everyday, people and the most vulnerable seniors, veterans,
Speaker 1: working families, hungering kids.
Speaker 6: Y'all Democratic signaling that they're ready for fight this time.
Speaker 6: Sumer told the Associated Press, Well, things have changed.
Speaker 2: It is not normal to shut down the government when
Speaker 2: we don't get.
Speaker 1: What we want. I mean, I love them using AOC's words,
Speaker 1: I feel like the media has changed a little bit.
Speaker 1: Here your thoughts on.
Speaker 2: That, Well, I'm impressed that you recognize AOC's voice.
Speaker 3: I didn't know.
Speaker 2: I knew that was a shrill Democrat. I didn't know
Speaker 2: who that was. So I appreciate that clarity. Listen, every
Speaker 2: single Democrat, I think, without exception, has gone on record
Speaker 2: being against shutdowns. The fact that they shut it all
Speaker 2: down today demonstrates what utter hypocrites they are. And I
Speaker 2: got to say as I was walking off the Senate floor,
Speaker 2: so I voted to fund the government this afternoon. The
Speaker 2: Democrats voted against it and caused a shut down. All
Speaker 2: the reporters were circling, and their talking point that they
Speaker 2: really wanted to press is they said, Okay, cruise. In
Speaker 2: twenty thirteen, in the fight over Obamacare, you, Ted Cruz
Speaker 2: forced to shut down. Isn't that what the Democrats are
Speaker 2: doing now? And I just started laughing at them, and
Speaker 2: I said, look, number one, in twenty thirteen, when I
Speaker 2: did a twenty one hour filibuster on the floor, I
Speaker 2: was fighting for Americans. I was fighting for American citizens
Speaker 2: whose healthcare premiums had skyrocketed. And they had skyrocketed because
Speaker 2: Obamacare was a train wreck. It was a disaster. It
Speaker 2: caused a massive increase in health insurance premiums. It made
Speaker 2: the health insurance companies rich, and it made millions of
Speaker 2: ordinary Americans unable to afford health insurance. And by the way,
Speaker 2: I was also fighting for it at a time when
Speaker 2: the House of Representatives that was Republican had voted to
Speaker 2: fund the federal government, fund the entirety of the federal government,
Speaker 2: but not fund Obamacare, so not fund the law that
Speaker 2: was causing damage to American citizens. And I said, here,
Speaker 2: what's happening is Chuck Schumer is shutting down the federal
Speaker 2: government not to help American citizens who are getting hurt,
Speaker 2: but he's shutting down the federal government in order to
Speaker 2: help millions of illegal aliens and give them free health care.
Speaker 2: And he's willing to shut down your federal government to
Speaker 2: give free health care to illegals, and that fundamentally there's
Speaker 2: a hypocrisy to it. And I also said, said, you know,
Speaker 2: the reporters were like, isn't it the same? And I said, listen,
Speaker 2: let me be clear. In twenty thirteen, it was Chuck
Speaker 2: Schumer who shut the government down. Then I was trying
Speaker 2: to fund the entirety of the federal government except for Obamacare,
Speaker 2: and Chuck Schumer and Harry Reid decided, no, we'll shut
Speaker 2: it all down because we care so much about socialized medicine.
Speaker 2: And I told the reporters we had like fifty reporters
Speaker 2: standing outside the Senate Florida. I said, look, none of
Speaker 2: you guys reported that. You all blamed the shutdown on
Speaker 2: me because you're all left wing hacks. Yeah, today, all
Speaker 2: of you are still left wing hacks. You agree with
Speaker 2: the Democrats. But the facts are so overwhelming. It is
Speaker 2: Chuck Schumer and the Democrats who are shutting the government
Speaker 2: down that even you dishonest liars are reporting. This is
Speaker 2: the Schumer shutdown because the House has funded the government
Speaker 2: exactly the status quo. The funding yesterday has continued to tomorrow.
Speaker 2: It is the Democrats who said let's shut it down,
Speaker 2: and I think at the end of the day they're
Speaker 2: going to lose that battle. But this is what you
Speaker 2: got to ask yourself, is how long do the Democrats
Speaker 2: have to perform for their crazy left wing activists before
Speaker 2: they allow the government.
Speaker 1: To reopen until the poll tells them otherwise. Is my guess.
Speaker 1: It's gonna be interesting. I have a feeling you're right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna be talking about this for but but you know.
Speaker 2: What that they're not gonna trust. They're not going to
Speaker 2: trust the polls from that right wing mouthpiece and in
Speaker 2: the New York Times. But but but but maybe I
Speaker 2: don't know. When Mother Jones and and you know, Communist
Speaker 2: Party of America as a poll that shows they're losing,
Speaker 2: maybe then they'll give up.
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe then we're gonna cover it all. Don't forget.
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