WEBVTT - Nightcap - Hour 1: Knicks Steal Game 3 + Luka in "Championship Shape? 0:00:01.400 --> 0:00:19.800 The volume Wow Wow Wild Water Ball Game. Thank you 0:00:19.840 --> 0:00:22.200 for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you 0:00:22.320 --> 0:00:25.160 watch the New York Knicks stay alive one o six 0:00:25.200 --> 0:00:28.440 to one hundred over the Indiana Pacers. They battled back 0:00:28.480 --> 0:00:31.080 from twenty points down in the second quarter, they cut 0:00:31.120 --> 0:00:33.720 it to thirteen and the half, and then Karl Anthony 0:00:33.760 --> 0:00:36.239 Towns got hot in the third quarter and then they 0:00:36.240 --> 0:00:38.120 took it over in the fourth quarter as they win 0:00:38.360 --> 0:00:40.960 one oh six to one hundred over the Pacers, and 0:00:41.040 --> 0:00:43.480 now the series is now Pacers two one. 0:00:43.920 --> 0:00:46.000 Thank you for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. 0:00:46.080 --> 0:00:47.640 Y'all know me. 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They composed themselves, 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:31.040 cut it to thirteen at the half. Then they outscored 0:02:31.080 --> 0:02:33.200 by only outscored them by three in the third quarter, 0:02:33.480 --> 0:02:35.600 But in the fourth quarter they took over, outscored them 0:02:35.639 --> 0:02:38.799 by sixteen points, gave up thirty six points, something that 0:02:38.840 --> 0:02:40.760 Indiana doesn't do a whole lot of. It's give up 0:02:41.200 --> 0:02:44.760 a big quarter like that, but the Knicks needed it. 0:02:44.880 --> 0:02:50.200 Karl Anthony Towns was sensational twenty four points, fifteen rebounds, 0:02:50.240 --> 0:02:52.600 three or three from the three point line, fifth all 0:02:52.720 --> 0:02:56.720 time with twenty ten playoff game for the Knicks. Cat 0:02:56.760 --> 0:03:00.079 had as many points in the fourth quarter as the Pacers. 0:03:00.400 --> 0:03:02.760 He got going, and when he got it going, it 0:03:02.880 --> 0:03:04.680 was no stopping for I meant to say, you got 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.360 to going in the fourth quarter, not the third. But 0:03:06.440 --> 0:03:08.040 he did hit a few couple of big buckets that 0:03:08.080 --> 0:03:11.480 got them going. Josh Hart ten points, eight rebounds, four assists, 0:03:11.760 --> 0:03:14.200 his first game coming off the bench because they started 0:03:14.200 --> 0:03:17.360 Mitchell Robinson, they went with a big lineup another twenty 0:03:17.400 --> 0:03:19.440 point comeback from the next The Knicks have the most 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:22.880 twenty point comebacks three in a single postseason since nineteen 0:03:23.000 --> 0:03:25.720 ninety eight. Jay, I know you watched this game very 0:03:25.800 --> 0:03:30.160 very closely, and it looked like the Pacers were in control, 0:03:30.720 --> 0:03:33.840 about to take a commanding lead three to zero. Everything 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:37.680 was going inside outside, they were running getting out in transition. 0:03:38.400 --> 0:03:40.520 Obviously that's what they want to do, make or miss, 0:03:40.520 --> 0:03:43.960 they want to get out in transition. What did the 0:03:44.040 --> 0:03:47.200 Knicks do or what didn't the Pacers do to cause 0:03:47.240 --> 0:03:48.920 the outcome to be what it became at the end 0:03:48.920 --> 0:03:51.440 of the game. Well, personally, I think it was more 0:03:51.480 --> 0:03:55.320 about what the Pacers didn't do. Obviously, Okay, Go Towns 0:03:55.440 --> 0:03:58.240 made some big, big shots on the fourth wed. I 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.640 just it just seemed like, you know, towards the end 0:04:00.920 --> 0:04:02.720 of the second quarter, they took the foot off the 0:04:02.760 --> 0:04:04.760 gas and then came out in the second half and 0:04:04.760 --> 0:04:06.000 they didn't have the same energy. 0:04:06.040 --> 0:04:07.560 I mean, you look at the look at the game. 0:04:07.960 --> 0:04:10.080 The building wasn't even as ignited as it was in 0:04:10.080 --> 0:04:12.880 the first half because the energy was low. So you know, 0:04:13.160 --> 0:04:15.000 the thing that I look at when I look at 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.280 this game, is where's the what is the best players doing? 0:04:17.760 --> 0:04:21.240 You know, Tarese Halibert, he has to take over the 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:23.640 games right when you see your team struggling and you 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:25.960 see it, you know the offense isn't flowing as well. 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:29.240 I think he tends to take the back seat a 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.400 little too much and and like that. So he has 0:04:32.440 --> 0:04:34.360 to he has to do a better job on saying, hey, 0:04:34.360 --> 0:04:35.159 this is my team. 0:04:35.560 --> 0:04:36.160 You know we need it. 0:04:36.200 --> 0:04:37.520 We need a moment here. And I got to be 0:04:37.560 --> 0:04:39.720 the reason why. And I thought that didn't happen today. 0:04:39.760 --> 0:04:41.760 He had I think he made a shot or two. Uh, 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:43.520 but for the most part, you know, the energy was 0:04:43.560 --> 0:04:45.919 low and they didn't compete. 0:04:45.960 --> 0:04:48.119 You know when you know the Knicks did in the fourth. 0:04:49.720 --> 0:04:53.400 I agree with you sometimes I do believe that Haley 0:04:53.520 --> 0:04:56.840 gets he's not as aggressive as I need him to be. Now, 0:04:56.839 --> 0:04:59.719 he only had six assists. That's because the guys couldn't 0:04:59.720 --> 0:05:02.520 buy back. I mean, you look at the shot Pascal, 0:05:03.839 --> 0:05:06.839 he was fifty percent from the floor, so was Miles Turner. 0:05:07.040 --> 0:05:09.040 But you look at Nie Smith. He was two of eight, 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.799 one for three from the three point line. Miles Turner 0:05:11.839 --> 0:05:13.360 was six or twelve from the floor, but he's one 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:15.760 for six from the three. Nim Hard was all three 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:18.240 from the three, Hadley was two or six from the three. 0:05:18.560 --> 0:05:20.360 And so when you go five or twenty five from 0:05:20.400 --> 0:05:25.919 the three point line, that's that's a recipe for a disaster. 0:05:26.000 --> 0:05:28.839 And when the team gets it going. Hopefully we can get. 0:05:28.680 --> 0:05:31.120 Some of this in the Western Conference and all of 0:05:31.160 --> 0:05:34.000 them won't be blowout twenty points and forty point blowouts. 0:05:34.080 --> 0:05:36.800 But I thought the Knicks that second quarter, the end 0:05:36.800 --> 0:05:39.120 of the second quarter, that last three minutes Jermaine, I 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:41.040 thought that was big for them because they could have 0:05:41.080 --> 0:05:43.400 went the other way. Instead of being down thirteen, they 0:05:43.400 --> 0:05:45.680 could have been down thirty three. And now maybe we're 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:48.000 having a different discussion, but give those guys credit. You're 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.440 on the road, you're in a hostile environment, you've already 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:53.960 lost two home games. They banded together, they believed in themselves, 0:05:54.120 --> 0:05:56.800 and they made plays when they absolutely had to make plays. 0:05:56.839 --> 0:06:00.919 And you know, Johs jyl Bruns is gonna have his 0:06:01.000 --> 0:06:02.800 hand all over He's gonna find a way to get 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:04.560 to the free throw line. That's just the way he is. 0:06:04.880 --> 0:06:06.839 And I would have wish say that they probably should 0:06:06.839 --> 0:06:10.680 have employed the hacker Robinson earlier. You know, hey, I 0:06:10.760 --> 0:06:13.320 filed him once I see the momentum start to slip it. Yeah, 0:06:13.320 --> 0:06:14.640 oh no, you got to go to the free throw 0:06:14.640 --> 0:06:16.599 line and make those shots. Oh, Joe, you're watching this 0:06:16.680 --> 0:06:18.839 game and you see the Knicks come back from twenty 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:21.279 points down, yeah, and win this ball game. 0:06:21.320 --> 0:06:24.239 What did you like about the knicks resilience on the road? Listen? 0:06:24.400 --> 0:06:26.159 I like the fact that they kept fighting. Huh. I 0:06:26.279 --> 0:06:27.599 like the fact that they kept fighting. 0:06:27.960 --> 0:06:30.600 Jay, they need to find a way to stop being 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:33.320 down by twenty, stop making the game that much more 0:06:33.320 --> 0:06:37.839 difficult for you. I don't understand how a why the 0:06:37.880 --> 0:06:39.920 way the Pacers played the first two games, right? 0:06:41.080 --> 0:06:42.520 Why not do what you did tonight? 0:06:43.760 --> 0:06:47.039 The previous two games you played before, for when you 0:06:47.040 --> 0:06:48.760 were playing at home, you had the event, you had 0:06:48.760 --> 0:06:51.360 the advantage. Now you play a much better game. Even 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:53.560 though you're down about twenty, you play a much better game. 0:06:53.839 --> 0:06:56.800 And you're playing away in a hostile environment. And then 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:58.960 I think the keys of the game also was when 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:01.240 you not on you're down by twenty, but to be 0:07:01.279 --> 0:07:03.360 able to come back into the game. Were they able 0:07:03.360 --> 0:07:06.000 to do the last what five or six minutes of 0:07:06.080 --> 0:07:10.000 the fourth quarter. Halle Burdon missed a step back the 0:07:10.080 --> 0:07:12.640 sequence where it was a sequence where I think it 0:07:12.680 --> 0:07:15.120 was maybe three minutes and sixteen seconds on o'clock where 0:07:15.200 --> 0:07:18.480 the goddamn the Pacers they had nothing but six points 0:07:18.600 --> 0:07:21.040 with multiple this is at that and I think it 0:07:21.080 --> 0:07:21.320 was there. 0:07:21.320 --> 0:07:21.560 It was. 0:07:21.960 --> 0:07:23.760 It was in that matter and that fact, in that 0:07:23.800 --> 0:07:26.520 instance in general, where the Nicks took advantage that god 0:07:26.600 --> 0:07:29.080 damn Jalen Brunton, Hey, yunkie, something nice. 0:07:29.280 --> 0:07:30.920 People might go get to that pren throw Labe. 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:33.360 He might struggle from the floor, but he's gonna find 0:07:33.360 --> 0:07:34.720 a way jail the slow getting. 0:07:34.480 --> 0:07:37.440 It the fre throw live. Well, it was. It was 0:07:37.480 --> 0:07:37.840 a key. 0:07:37.920 --> 0:07:40.000 It was a key moment in this game. You know, 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:43.200 let's put aside what the Pacers didn't do and lean 0:07:43.240 --> 0:07:45.200 more on what the Knicks did. And it started to 0:07:45.240 --> 0:07:48.000 meet from the coaching side. Right, you go back to 0:07:48.040 --> 0:07:50.320 game one, the Knicks went on the run, they were 0:07:50.400 --> 0:07:51.080 up seventeen. 0:07:51.600 --> 0:07:53.320 Thibodeau makes a sub. 0:07:53.760 --> 0:07:56.880 Right, sometimes when the team's rolling, the very best player 0:07:56.880 --> 0:07:58.440 that don't necessarily have to be a part of that, 0:07:58.640 --> 0:08:01.200 because something you can sub and stopped. 0:08:00.840 --> 0:08:01.560 The floor of the game. 0:08:02.200 --> 0:08:05.960 Right, you fast forward to tonight right where the group 0:08:06.000 --> 0:08:08.160 that he had in there, they actually did a really 0:08:08.200 --> 0:08:11.040 good job on cutting it and he stretched that group out. 0:08:11.280 --> 0:08:13.360 So he did they cut it to I thing three 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:15.040 of you know, possibly even two. 0:08:15.440 --> 0:08:17.120 And then when he needed to bring him, I think 0:08:17.160 --> 0:08:20.680 he brought Brusting back like two minutes and twenty yards 0:08:20.680 --> 0:08:22.960 ago in the game. So I thought the coaching part 0:08:22.960 --> 0:08:25.280 of it was a lot better tonight when it comes 0:08:25.320 --> 0:08:27.280 to this chess game, you know, which we see in 0:08:27.280 --> 0:08:31.880 the playoffs. And plus give to of credit, he went 0:08:31.960 --> 0:08:35.440 with a big lineup tonight. He started Mitchell Robinson, he 0:08:35.520 --> 0:08:38.959 went with kat because Mitchell Robinson gave them extra possessions 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.120 and so that's what we need. We need more than 0:08:41.160 --> 0:08:43.480 one possession. And so you know what, say Mitch, We're 0:08:43.480 --> 0:08:46.120 gonna lean on you tonight. We're gonna play twenty nine minutes. 0:08:46.160 --> 0:08:48.240 He played twenty nine minutes. I thought he was insational, 0:08:48.440 --> 0:08:51.120 brought Josh Hart off the bench, and I thought, you look, 0:08:51.840 --> 0:08:53.600 when you get it rolling like that, it's hard to 0:08:53.600 --> 0:08:56.440 break up momentum like that. Because if you look at 0:08:56.440 --> 0:09:01.600 the second quarter, he let Harlow let go. Those were 0:09:01.640 --> 0:09:04.280 not his regular guys in there. He let them go yeah, 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:09.080 And and I thought the Knicks took advantage of that. 0:09:09.080 --> 0:09:12.120 They ended up Claria back and getting it down to thirteen. 0:09:12.360 --> 0:09:14.280 I thought McBride came in and made a couple of 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.200 big shots. He had a big time three, he had 0:09:16.240 --> 0:09:18.719 a big time pull up. He's doing a little thing. 0:09:18.760 --> 0:09:22.920 He's a better He's a very good defender if you 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:24.800 look at it, O Joe, We've been talking about this. 0:09:25.080 --> 0:09:28.800 They normally play seven guys. They played nine tonight nine 0:09:28.840 --> 0:09:31.959 to night. Andrew Shammick got eleven minutes, Darrell Wright got 0:09:32.000 --> 0:09:34.880 thirteen minutes. Josh Hart played you know, he normally played 0:09:34.880 --> 0:09:36.520 a little more minutes, but he came up the bitch. 0:09:36.720 --> 0:09:39.360 He played thirty four, and McBride gave you fifteen. 0:09:40.559 --> 0:09:44.400 Hey, Jo, And you say, you say Halle Burton, especially 0:09:44.440 --> 0:09:47.400 in I call it precious situations. You know, at the 0:09:47.480 --> 0:09:49.720 end of that game, you say, Halle Burton should take over. 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:51.920 But if you look at what the Knicks were doing, 0:09:52.080 --> 0:09:54.920 the hell the Knicks was doubling Halliburton on all highs 0:09:54.920 --> 0:09:57.760 threess and forcing the ball really out his hands and 0:09:58.000 --> 0:10:00.280 leaving the owners of someone else on that team to 0:10:00.360 --> 0:10:03.000 have to have to shoot or get that point. From 0:10:03.000 --> 0:10:06.480 somewhere else, and they wasn't hitting. 0:10:06.480 --> 0:10:10.720 Sea burn the ball over. Yeah, they didn't. They didn't. 0:10:10.760 --> 0:10:12.560 I mean, the office didn't flow very well. So I 0:10:12.600 --> 0:10:13.719 agree with you they did. 0:10:13.920 --> 0:10:16.120 And again, it's a chess match right now, right, you know, 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:17.760 they're going back and forth. They're trying to take the 0:10:17.760 --> 0:10:20.560 ball out of certain people's hands. The thing the difference 0:10:20.559 --> 0:10:22.079 that I saw the night early in the game, I 0:10:22.120 --> 0:10:26.640 think the first half the Pacers bench I'll scored the 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:28.640 k next bench I think twenty two to seven. And 0:10:28.720 --> 0:10:31.360 the third half the Knicks was a plus I think 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:34.600 fifteen or sixteen. So the Florida game was a lot 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:35.440 different for the Pacers. 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:35.760 Early. 0:10:35.800 --> 0:10:38.720 I thought the Pacers got a lot statinated, you know, 0:10:38.760 --> 0:10:40.920 in the second half and and oho, to go back 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.880 to what you was saying, what makes Halliburton really really 0:10:43.880 --> 0:10:46.600 good is when they're moving that ball, swinging that ball, 0:10:46.880 --> 0:10:48.719 catch him he catching the ball, you know, on the 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.760 last live pass and he's going downhill. Well, the second 0:10:51.760 --> 0:10:54.360 half they got the second half, it was super stagnated. 0:10:54.440 --> 0:10:56.280 They got bumped up against the shot clock a lot, 0:10:56.559 --> 0:10:58.080 and the ball didn't necessarily end up in the right 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:00.600 people's hand at the right time. Yeah, I thought he 0:11:00.600 --> 0:11:02.360 held onto the ball. The ball stuck a little bit, 0:11:02.480 --> 0:11:04.320 a little bit too long in his hands to Night Jail. 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:06.960 I like with Halliburton, when they're getting make or miss, 0:11:07.000 --> 0:11:09.400 getting the ball off the rim and they're pushing tempo, 0:11:09.720 --> 0:11:11.959 that's when they're at their absolute best. And it doesn't 0:11:11.960 --> 0:11:14.440 matter if Halley has it, if nim Hard, Niece Smith, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:17.360 it does not matter who had matthn It doesn't matter. 0:11:17.400 --> 0:11:18.560 They're looking to push tempo. 0:11:18.880 --> 0:11:21.120 That's when they're at at the best, is when they're 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:23.160 getting up and down. I thought Haley did a little 0:11:23.160 --> 0:11:24.760 bit too much gribbling to Night. I thought he was 0:11:24.920 --> 0:11:26.480 you know, he wasn't like I'm going to go to 0:11:26.520 --> 0:11:28.480 the basket. Now, let me back it out again. And 0:11:28.520 --> 0:11:31.280 now he's getting off the ball at ten at ten seconds. Now, 0:11:31.400 --> 0:11:33.240 Hey don't know about it, because it's really when you 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.760 really look at it, who's really looking to take somebody 0:11:36.760 --> 0:11:40.600 off the bounce see Ockham. Everything else is really set 0:11:40.679 --> 0:11:44.199 up by Halliburton doing a great job of getting penetration. 0:11:44.440 --> 0:11:45.839 They played a lot of picking roll, you know, like 0:11:46.000 --> 0:11:48.000 getting the high pick and roll with Myles Turner. He 0:11:48.040 --> 0:11:49.760 can he can roll to the basket, or he can 0:11:49.880 --> 0:11:51.760 hit the picking pop. But I thought the night I 0:11:51.760 --> 0:11:53.679 thought Hallley might have held onto the ball just a 0:11:53.840 --> 0:11:56.080 tad too much. But he had some guys that had 0:11:56.120 --> 0:11:58.800 some good looks at the basket tonight, Jail. They just 0:11:58.840 --> 0:12:02.920 didn't go down for twenty five is not knw well off. Clearly, 0:12:03.040 --> 0:12:05.000 that's not good enough when you're shooting twenty percent from 0:12:05.040 --> 0:12:07.040 the floor from the three point line. But when you 0:12:07.080 --> 0:12:09.880 play it, when you got to win this game, you're 0:12:09.920 --> 0:12:12.520 at home. You juste stole two games on the road. 0:12:13.040 --> 0:12:15.480 You got to win the first game back, jail. And 0:12:15.559 --> 0:12:17.920 it happened to them against Cleveland. Remember Cleveland did the 0:12:17.920 --> 0:12:19.640 same thing to them. They take the first two games 0:12:19.640 --> 0:12:22.440 in Cleveland. They come in there to get them, but Cleveland, 0:12:22.440 --> 0:12:25.079 really Cleveland took the game from the from the tip 0:12:25.480 --> 0:12:27.800 and I look at this gap and say, damn man, 0:12:27.920 --> 0:12:30.240 the Pacers about to go up three oh, only Knicks 0:12:30.280 --> 0:12:32.760 about to go up three oh. And then I'm like, hey, 0:12:32.840 --> 0:12:35.560 y'all getting real sloppy with this basketball. Now there's still 0:12:35.600 --> 0:12:37.160 two and a half quarters to go. Now, I let 0:12:37.200 --> 0:12:39.920 hey don't let this thing slip away. And then they 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.640 cut it right. They cut it right before the half. 0:12:41.640 --> 0:12:44.120 They got it down to thirteen, and they and I 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.320 think the Knicks would think it. We got it manageable. Now, 0:12:46.840 --> 0:12:49.080 we got it manageable. If we come out Oh Joe, 0:12:49.120 --> 0:12:51.720 we come out here two threes. Hey, this thing under 0:12:51.720 --> 0:12:55.160 ten and we was down twenty just five minutes ago. 0:12:55.320 --> 0:12:57.440 Hey, they they got Hey, they got to find a 0:12:57.440 --> 0:13:00.400 way to stop being down in such a deficit, having 0:13:00.440 --> 0:13:02.520 to crawl back and fight back from twenty. I understand 0:13:02.559 --> 0:13:04.280 the game of basketball. It's all about it's a game 0:13:04.320 --> 0:13:07.000 of runs. But like, make it easy on yourself. Don't 0:13:07.000 --> 0:13:09.920 make every game where Okay, Now, we got to do 0:13:09.960 --> 0:13:11.520 everything we got to be. You got to be damn 0:13:11.559 --> 0:13:14.880 near perfect and hope the momentum shifts in your favor. 0:13:15.440 --> 0:13:19.840 Outside of that, I mean, listen, the Knicks bench played 0:13:19.880 --> 0:13:20.360 really well. 0:13:20.400 --> 0:13:23.960 It was ugly. It was ugly, Josh McBride, Robinson, Listen. 0:13:24.040 --> 0:13:27.760 They weren't they weren't flashy, but they outplayed Indiana second unit. 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:31.200 And they can have another game like that when they 0:13:31.200 --> 0:13:35.360 play again on Tuesday, not Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday. Listen, then 0:13:35.360 --> 0:13:38.200 they can have another game like that, especially the bench. 0:13:38.320 --> 0:13:40.080 We know what, we know what the starters are gonna do. 0:13:40.559 --> 0:13:42.719 They have another game like this, entire this series up, 0:13:43.040 --> 0:13:45.600 it can become interesting again because if they had lost 0:13:45.640 --> 0:13:47.760 a nice game, I really think it was over. I 0:13:47.800 --> 0:13:48.920 really think the series was over. 0:13:49.240 --> 0:13:51.120 Oh it was over. It was definitely, it was definitely 0:13:51.120 --> 0:13:54.000 over jail if they had lost this game, I think 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.640 the thing was I'm struggling as as as a as 0:13:56.640 --> 0:13:59.280 a former player when I look at these playoffs and 0:13:59.400 --> 0:14:02.959 you see the live you know, throughout the season, time 0:14:02.960 --> 0:14:06.880 and possession is not a thing anymore in the NBA, no, right, 0:14:07.000 --> 0:14:09.600 especially in the in the playoffs where everything comes down. 0:14:09.440 --> 0:14:12.160 To possessions, right, I'm wanting more and more. 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:17.240 Threes be launched, and it almost creates bad three bad threes. 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:21.240 It created rhythm for other teams getting it and they're gone. 0:14:21.320 --> 0:14:23.120 And that's the thing why I'm struggling with a little bit. 0:14:23.160 --> 0:14:25.040 I mean, you go back to the first game the Knicks, 0:14:25.200 --> 0:14:27.560 and again, I'm happy that you know that we are, 0:14:27.560 --> 0:14:29.440 you know, two to one, But when you look at 0:14:29.440 --> 0:14:32.560 that game, you know, fourteen with two minutes, and I 0:14:32.600 --> 0:14:35.120 think at the time it was forty fifty seven seconds. 0:14:35.240 --> 0:14:35.440 Right. 0:14:36.000 --> 0:14:37.400 When you think about this, all you do is get 0:14:37.440 --> 0:14:39.680 four or five stops, and hell, you can get four 0:14:39.760 --> 0:14:43.360 or five shot clock violations, right, and you win the game. 0:14:43.680 --> 0:14:46.080 But I look at tonight where it's like every time 0:14:46.080 --> 0:14:49.680 it's like somebody it was some sort of rhythm is happening. 0:14:49.840 --> 0:14:52.160 A three are bad three? Go up right, or just 0:14:52.320 --> 0:14:54.520 bad possession. And that's the part where I'm struggling with 0:14:54.520 --> 0:14:56.880 a little bit right now, considering that this is just 0:14:56.920 --> 0:14:58.520 is go to the NBA finals, right, You're in the 0:14:58.520 --> 0:15:01.119 conference finals, so you should have some sort of understanding 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.680 on how you know to win the game in the 0:15:02.800 --> 0:15:05.480 understanding too of how to lose the game as well. Yeah, 0:15:05.640 --> 0:15:07.280 I think we see a lot of that jail. I 0:15:07.280 --> 0:15:09.400 think sometimes guys get called little. I'm gonna be the 0:15:09.400 --> 0:15:11.000 guy that break the rhythm. I'm gonna be the guy 0:15:11.040 --> 0:15:13.200 to get to hit the big shot that quelled their 0:15:13.280 --> 0:15:16.000 run or push us to If we're up five, we're 0:15:16.000 --> 0:15:18.320 gonna go up if we're up seven, we're gonna go 0:15:18.400 --> 0:15:20.760 up ten. I'm gonna be the guy that puss the 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:23.240 you know that says, Okay, he hit that big shot. Well, 0:15:23.240 --> 0:15:24.560 it was a big shot in the corner that such 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:27.000 and such hit. But what you do is that you 0:15:27.000 --> 0:15:28.880 allowed them, like you said, you allowed them to get 0:15:28.880 --> 0:15:30.360 a rhythm. You allowed them to get a run out 0:15:30.400 --> 0:15:33.080 on you, right, and now all of a sudden, you're like, bro, 0:15:33.440 --> 0:15:35.440 and I'm sure in a situation like that, Jail, you're 0:15:35.480 --> 0:15:38.400 not telling a man don't take that shot. He's like, Hey, 0:15:38.440 --> 0:15:40.840 let's just be patient, let's slow this thing down. But 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.600 I think the thing is for the Pacers. Look, it's 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:47.040 one game, you said to Jail, they're still up to one, 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:50.600 and we got another game in our building. Now you've 0:15:50.600 --> 0:15:52.760 given the next life. The Knicks believe that they can 0:15:52.760 --> 0:15:54.720 beat your ass in your building because they just came 0:15:54.760 --> 0:15:57.560 back from twenty down, so they believe not anything close 0:15:57.840 --> 0:15:58.880 going into the fourth corner. 0:15:58.920 --> 0:16:01.200 They got You got that, man. I don't know. 0:16:01.360 --> 0:16:03.760 I don't know who feels good about what I mean. 0:16:03.920 --> 0:16:06.440 Obviously the Knicks has some struggles at home, and now 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:07.680 the Pacers. 0:16:07.200 --> 0:16:07.840 You know they had. 0:16:07.960 --> 0:16:11.200 When you think about the game, Karl, Anthony, Towns and 0:16:11.440 --> 0:16:15.160 and Brunston did come, they were in found trump. The 0:16:15.160 --> 0:16:17.440 didn't have a great first half at all, and yes 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:19.720 they walk away with a win right when that game 0:16:19.760 --> 0:16:22.160 should have been a twenty plus point. 0:16:22.000 --> 0:16:24.200 Drumming of the of the Knicks. 0:16:24.200 --> 0:16:26.280 But they found a way to stay in the game, 0:16:26.440 --> 0:16:28.160 or the Pacers found a way to kid him in 0:16:28.200 --> 0:16:38.440 the game. And you look at the Pacers, Oh, Joe, 0:16:38.480 --> 0:16:40.920 we talked about this all the time your committee. And 0:16:41.000 --> 0:16:43.840 normally they have six guys in double figures. They had 0:16:43.840 --> 0:16:47.200 four guys in double figures tonight. Nick Smith two of eight, 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:49.840 he only had eight points. You had them hard. He 0:16:50.000 --> 0:16:53.280 was two of nine or three he had nine points. 0:16:53.480 --> 0:16:57.360 Those guys normally get you thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, That's how. 0:16:57.240 --> 0:16:58.160 They normally played. 0:16:59.120 --> 0:17:01.760 Halliburton had two in Siakam and look that was the 0:17:01.760 --> 0:17:03.800 playoff career high to get in Game two, which he 0:17:03.880 --> 0:17:04.600 had thirty nine. 0:17:04.880 --> 0:17:05.760 He was phenomenal. 0:17:05.840 --> 0:17:07.480 I'm not expecting them to have a whole bunch of 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:08.760 thirty point playoff games. 0:17:08.880 --> 0:17:11.159 That's just not the type of offensive player that he is. 0:17:11.440 --> 0:17:14.680 He's a good player, but I'm not looking for him 0:17:14.720 --> 0:17:16.520 to go off like he went off in Game two. 0:17:16.520 --> 0:17:16.760 Again. 0:17:16.800 --> 0:17:19.400 I don't know about you, Jail. I thought TJ. McConnell 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.240 was sensational. Maybe you might need to buck those fifteen 0:17:22.280 --> 0:17:25.600 minutes up and give him twenty minutes, because hey, he battles, 0:17:25.760 --> 0:17:29.119 he pushes pace, he makes big time shots, he's a hustle. 0:17:29.520 --> 0:17:30.719 I love the way he played. 0:17:32.480 --> 0:17:35.600 But they're kicking themselves, just like the Knicks kicked themselves 0:17:35.640 --> 0:17:38.200 the first game, because they're like, man, we had Bruston 0:17:38.240 --> 0:17:40.600 go off for forty three, we had Cat go off 0:17:40.640 --> 0:17:44.240