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Speaker 1: The volume Wow Wow Wild Water Ball Game. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for joining us for another episode of Nightcap. As you

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Speaker 1: watch the New York Knicks stay alive one o six

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Speaker 1: to one hundred over the Indiana Pacers. They battled back

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Speaker 1: from twenty points down in the second quarter, they cut

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Speaker 1: it to thirteen and the half, and then Karl Anthony

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Speaker 1: Towns got hot in the third quarter and then they

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Speaker 1: took it over in the fourth quarter as they win

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Speaker 1: one oh six to one hundred over the Pacers, and

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Speaker 1: now the series is now Pacers two one.

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Speaker 1: while supplies last. As I mentioned earlier, the Knicks come

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Speaker 1: back from a twenty point deficit, thought they were about

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Speaker 1: to get run out of the building. They composed themselves,

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Speaker 1: cut it to thirteen at the half. Then they outscored

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Speaker 1: by only outscored them by three in the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: But in the fourth quarter they took over, outscored them

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Speaker 1: by sixteen points, gave up thirty six points, something that

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Speaker 1: Indiana doesn't do a whole lot of. It's give up

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Speaker 1: a big quarter like that, but the Knicks needed it.

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Speaker 1: Karl Anthony Towns was sensational twenty four points, fifteen rebounds,

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Speaker 1: three or three from the three point line, fifth all

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Speaker 1: time with twenty ten playoff game for the Knicks. Cat

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Speaker 1: had as many points in the fourth quarter as the Pacers.

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Speaker 1: He got going, and when he got it going, it

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Speaker 1: was no stopping for I meant to say, you got

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Speaker 1: got them going. Josh Hart ten points, eight rebounds, four assists,

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Speaker 1: Mitchell Robinson, they went with a big lineup another twenty

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Speaker 1: point comeback from the next The Knicks have the most

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Speaker 1: twenty point comebacks three in a single postseason since nineteen

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Speaker 1: ninety eight. Jay, I know you watched this game very

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Speaker 1: very closely, and it looked like the Pacers were in control,

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Speaker 1: about to take a commanding lead three to zero. Everything

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Speaker 1: Obviously that's what they want to do, make or miss,

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Speaker 1: they want to get out in transition. What did the

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Speaker 1: of the game. Well, personally, I think it was more

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Speaker 1: The building wasn't even as ignited as it was in

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Speaker 2: You know we need it.

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Speaker 1: We need a moment here. And I got to be

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Speaker 1: the reason why. And I thought that didn't happen today.

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Speaker 1: He had I think he made a shot or two. Uh,

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Speaker 2: You know when you know the Knicks did in the fourth.

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Speaker 1: I agree with you sometimes I do believe that Haley

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Speaker 2: And when the team gets it going. Hopefully we can get.

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Speaker 1: Some of this in the Western Conference and all of

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Speaker 1: But I thought the Knicks that second quarter, the end

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Speaker 1: having a different discussion, but give those guys credit. You're

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Speaker 2: What did you like about the knicks resilience on the road? Listen?

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Speaker 2: I like the fact that they kept fighting. Huh. I

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Speaker 3: Jay, they need to find a way to stop being

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Speaker 3: difficult for you. I don't understand how a why the

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Speaker 3: way the Pacers played the first two games, right?

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Speaker 2: Why not do what you did tonight?

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Speaker 3: The previous two games you played before, for when you

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Speaker 3: the advantage. Now you play a much better game. Even

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Speaker 3: though you're down about twenty, you play a much better game.

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Speaker 3: And you're playing away in a hostile environment. And then

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Speaker 3: I think the keys of the game also was when

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Speaker 3: the fourth quarter. Halle Burdon missed a step back the

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was in that matter and that fact, in that

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Speaker 2: People might go get to that pren throw Labe.

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Speaker 1: He might struggle from the floor, but he's gonna find

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Speaker 2: It the fre throw live. Well, it was. It was

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Speaker 1: It was a key moment in this game. You know,

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Speaker 1: let's put aside what the Pacers didn't do and lean

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Speaker 1: more on what the Knicks did. And it started to

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Speaker 1: game one, the Knicks went on the run, they were

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Speaker 1: Right, sometimes when the team's rolling, the very best player

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Speaker 2: The floor of the game.

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Speaker 1: Right, you fast forward to tonight right where the group

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Speaker 1: good job on cutting it and he stretched that group out.

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Speaker 2: So he did they cut it to I thing three

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. And plus give to of credit, he went

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Speaker 1: went with kat because Mitchell Robinson gave them extra possessions

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Speaker 1: one possession. And so you know what, say Mitch, We're

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Speaker 1: gonna lean on you tonight. We're gonna play twenty nine minutes.

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Speaker 1: He played twenty nine minutes. I thought he was insational,

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Speaker 1: brought Josh Hart off the bench, and I thought, you look,

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Speaker 1: when you get it rolling like that, it's hard to

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Speaker 1: the second quarter, he let Harlow let go. Those were

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Speaker 1: And and I thought the Knicks took advantage of that.

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Speaker 1: They ended up Claria back and getting it down to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: I thought McBride came in and made a couple of

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Speaker 1: big shots. He had a big time three, he had

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Speaker 1: He's a better He's a very good defender if you

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Speaker 1: look at it, O Joe, We've been talking about this.

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Speaker 1: They normally play seven guys. They played nine tonight nine

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Speaker 1: to night. Andrew Shammick got eleven minutes, Darrell Wright got

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Speaker 1: thirteen minutes. Josh Hart played you know, he normally played

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Speaker 1: He played thirty four, and McBride gave you fifteen.

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Speaker 3: Hey, Jo, And you say, you say Halle Burton, especially

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Speaker 3: in I call it precious situations. You know, at the

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Speaker 3: end of that game, you say, Halle Burton should take over.

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Speaker 3: But if you look at what the Knicks were doing,

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Speaker 1: You got to win the first game back, jail. And

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Speaker 1: They got it down to thirteen, and they and I

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Speaker 1: think the Knicks would think it. We got it manageable. Now,

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Speaker 1: we got it manageable. If we come out Oh Joe,

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Speaker 1: we come out here two threes. Hey, this thing under

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Speaker 3: Hey, they they got Hey, they got to find a

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Speaker 3: way to stop being down in such a deficit, having

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Speaker 3: the game of basketball. It's all about it's a game

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Speaker 3: of runs. But like, make it easy on yourself. Don't

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Speaker 3: Outside of that, I mean, listen, the Knicks bench played

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Speaker 2: It was ugly. It was ugly, Josh McBride, Robinson, Listen.

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Speaker 3: They weren't they weren't flashy, but they outplayed Indiana second unit.

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Speaker 3: And they can have another game like that when they

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Speaker 3: play again on Tuesday, not Tuesday, Tuesday, Tuesday. Listen, then

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Speaker 3: they can have another game like that, especially the bench.

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Speaker 3: We know what, we know what the starters are gonna do.

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Speaker 3: They have another game like this, entire this series up,

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Speaker 3: it can become interesting again because if they had lost

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Speaker 3: a nice game, I really think it was over. I

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Speaker 1: Oh it was over. It was definitely, it was definitely

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Speaker 1: and possession is not a thing anymore in the NBA, no, right,

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Speaker 2: To possessions, right, I'm wanting more and more.

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Speaker 1: Threes be launched, and it almost creates bad three bad threes.

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Speaker 1: It created rhythm for other teams getting it and they're gone.

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing why I'm struggling with a little bit.

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Speaker 2: Right.

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Speaker 1: When you think about this, all you do is get

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Speaker 1: But I look at tonight where it's like every time

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Speaker 1: bad possession. And that's the part where I'm struggling with

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Speaker 1: conference finals, so you should have some sort of understanding

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Speaker 1: you know that says, Okay, he hit that big shot. Well,

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Speaker 1: and we got another game in our building. Now you've

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Speaker 2: They got You got that, man. I don't know.

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Speaker 1: I don't know who feels good about what I mean.

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Speaker 1: Obviously the Knicks has some struggles at home, and now

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Speaker 2: You know they had.

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Speaker 1: When you think about the game, Karl, Anthony, Towns and

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Speaker 2: Drumming of the of the Knicks.

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Speaker 1: But they found a way to stay in the game,

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Speaker 1: normally they have six guys in double figures. They had

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Speaker 1: Those guys normally get you thirteen, fourteen, fifteen, That's how.

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Speaker 2: They normally played.

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Speaker 1: Halliburton had two in Siakam and look that was the

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Speaker 2: He was phenomenal.

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Speaker 1: I'm not expecting them to have a whole bunch of

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Speaker 2: That's just not the type of offensive player that he is.

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Speaker 1: He's a good player, but I'm not looking for him

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Speaker 2: Again.

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Speaker 1: I don't know about you, Jail. I thought TJ. McConnell

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Speaker 1: he pushes pace, he makes big time shots, he's a hustle.

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Speaker 1: But they're kicking themselves, just like the Knicks kicked themselves

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Speaker 1: Six of eighteen for Brunson. One of five Cat was

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Speaker 1: They lose the game. They had forty seven and was

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Speaker 1: great consolation in this all being on the road. Like, look, guys,

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Speaker 2: Go close it out.

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Speaker 1: I still like the Pacers if I if I'm into

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Speaker 2: Up on us and we still got another game in

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Speaker 1: Yeah, now I'm with you on the McConnell deal, right,

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Speaker 1: I think you know, he had ten first half points

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Speaker 2: But here's my question to both.

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Speaker 1: funk offency like they did tonight, if Pascal come isn't

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Speaker 1: the guy that you go for, they can go for

434
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Speaker 1: thirty every night. And uh, Terrece Halliburton isn't a guy

435
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Speaker 1: that can be aggressive all the time than who you

436
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Speaker 1: go to m that. But see, that's the thing when

437
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Speaker 1: you when you look when you look at this, they

438
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Speaker 1: kind of remind me of the Rockets, but a little

439
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Speaker 1: bit more seasoned, because who is the guy that you

440
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Speaker 1: really want you to check the last shot? Now we've

441
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Speaker 1: seen Halliburton hit some big shots, but you said, okay,

442
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Speaker 1: we're gonna get this ball? Are we gonna give this

443
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Speaker 1: ball to Pascal Siakam and let him go get us

444
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Speaker 1: a basket? That's that's not what he is. He's a

445
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Speaker 1: really good player. He is, and I don't want to

446
00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,159
Speaker 1: try to diminish him here, but I'm not looking at

447
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Speaker 1: him a guy that's gonna consistently like you know what

448
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Speaker 1: we need twenty five at night.

449
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Speaker 2: That's not what he is.

450
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Speaker 3: Right And then Dale Jail, think about think about what

451
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Speaker 3: you just asked. Right, is Pascal Siakam he's struggling late

452
00:20:01,960 --> 00:20:06,159
Speaker 3: in the game, they doubling, They doubling Halliburg forcing them

453
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Speaker 3: to kick the ball out. Do does everyone else? Do

454
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Speaker 3: the other three players have the green light to be

455
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Speaker 3: able to shoot at will when they want to impress

456
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Speaker 3: the situations, especially down in that fourth quarter when obviously

457
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Speaker 3: who you want, who you want the ball in their hands,

458
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Speaker 3: they can't get it done. Do they have the green

459
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Speaker 3: light to shoot that will?

460
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Speaker 2: So? I think they do. I think that's what makes

461
00:20:27,520 --> 00:20:28,840
Speaker 2: the Pacers really good is the death.

462
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Speaker 1: When you look at the game that they won really

463
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Speaker 1: both games, but then took with game one.

464
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Speaker 2: I think they have seven guys in double figures that

465
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Speaker 2: they have four.

466
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Speaker 1: They have four tonight, right, they're gonna those others, you know,

467
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Speaker 1: like Shack always says, the others, They're gonna have to

468
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Speaker 1: really step up and free Halliburton. Halliburn's about to be aggressive,

469
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Speaker 1: start to finish you know four. He cannot be passive.

470
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Speaker 1: He cannot allow double you know, to you know, to

471
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Speaker 1: take them out of the game. I mean, hell, the

472
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Speaker 1: Pacers were doubling Brunston in the first two games, and

473
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Speaker 1: Christian first game he had forty forty three, So he's

474
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Speaker 1: not on the way, uh to really you know, stay

475
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Speaker 1: you know, fight down and stay focused and stay you know, stayed,

476
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Speaker 1: you know, greedy when it comes to, you know, making

477
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Speaker 1: sure he's impacting the game, and then the rest of

478
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Speaker 1: the guys are falling too place. But I just felt

479
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:13,520
Speaker 1: like tonight they just got a little too tight, you know,

480
00:21:13,560 --> 00:21:15,040
Speaker 1: when the game was, you know, when the game was,

481
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Speaker 1: you know was when when they went on, when the

482
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Speaker 1: next one on, they running. They're gonna have to get

483
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Speaker 1: away from that and realize that they are at home.

484
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Speaker 1: The energy is behind him and that should be to

485
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Speaker 1: carry him. Yeah, me, Smith, he's gonna give you eight,

486
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Speaker 1: and he's been playing really wellnim Har has been playing really.

487
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Speaker 2: Well ye eight nine.

488
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Speaker 1: I thought matt Rick just didn't have it tonight, and

489
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Speaker 1: it shows in the amount of minutes that he played.

490
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Speaker 1: I think he thought he came in, he got a

491
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Speaker 1: couple of files, picked up a couple of files early. Uh,

492
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Speaker 1: and Carl out didn't have the confidence and to leave

493
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Speaker 1: him in the ball game and he ended up going out. Uh.

494
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Speaker 1: They brought Shepherd there. He had a big three. He's

495
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Speaker 1: mainly a defensive guy that can knock down threes. I

496
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Speaker 1: have given the opportunity, but you look at you look

497
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Speaker 1: at this team. In order for them to win, they're

498
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Speaker 1: gonna have to have five six guys in double figures.

499
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Speaker 2: That's how they've been all year. Jail.

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Speaker 1: This is I mean, I mean they'll probably look at this,

501
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Speaker 1: damn we only have four guys. We are they're one

502
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Speaker 1: of the few teams that have five guys in double

503
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Speaker 1: figures in the entire playoffs. And then mccallus. You know,

504
00:22:09,359 --> 00:22:11,720
Speaker 1: mccallaugh can get you ten because he'll hear the big three.

505
00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:14,160
Speaker 1: He'll get a couple of steals, get and one or something,

506
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Speaker 1: get the crowd going. But I thought those others, Nie

507
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Speaker 1: Smith and them Hard Mathren got Obie topping Obie normally.

508
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:24,679
Speaker 1: You know, he missed an easy one right there, you know,

509
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Speaker 1: missed the put back.

510
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Speaker 2: He'll be better.

511
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Speaker 1: I think those guys, and I think if the guys

512
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Speaker 1: that they're counting on the role players that Nie Smith

513
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Speaker 1: and them Hard Mathron Obie, I think if they give

514
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Speaker 1: you what they normally gave you throughout the entirety of

515
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Speaker 1: the playoffs thus far, especially the first two games against

516
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Speaker 1: the Knicks, I think they'll be fine. Twenty point comeback

517
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Speaker 1: playoff wins in twenty twenty five, we already have six,

518
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Speaker 1: and the last four postseasons combined, we've only had five.

519
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Speaker 1: That's crazy, and we've seen three into what the last

520
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Speaker 1: the last seven games, I mean, we saw Boston, we

521
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Speaker 1: saw Boston give up to twenty point leads, and we

522
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Speaker 1: just saw another one tonight.

523
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Speaker 2: I guess the question also comes down to the Pacers bench.

524
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Speaker 1: Was was was there wasn't the normal self tonight?

525
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Speaker 2: Right?

526
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Speaker 1: Typically they are the ones that they're gonna they're gonna

527
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Speaker 1: come in and every every night it's gonna be somebody

528
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Speaker 1: to step up.

529
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Speaker 2: Right.

530
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Speaker 1: The Knicks bench hasn't been impactful the series, but they

531
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Speaker 1: were impactful tonight. The biggest question is can the Knicks

532
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Speaker 1: bench come back again in Game four?

533
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:30,440
Speaker 2: Right?

534
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Speaker 1: Because I expect the Pacers to come back and be

535
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Speaker 1: their normal self because Rick Carlisle is a hell of

536
00:23:35,680 --> 00:23:38,400
Speaker 1: a coach, had a twin they played with him in Indiana.

537
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Speaker 1: He's a huge adjustment coach. I mean, one of the

538
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Speaker 1: smartest coaches I've ever been around. So I know he's

539
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Speaker 1: gonna have those boys ready to go. But then when

540
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:46,560
Speaker 1: it comes down to the you know, you know, to

541
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Speaker 1: the game itself, which which bench is going to carry

542
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:52,280
Speaker 1: their team? And if I had to put my money

543
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Speaker 1: on it, and this is not me being a Homer,

544
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Pacers because they've done it

545
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Speaker 1: all year.

546
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Speaker 2: Right. When you when you're when you're down in jail,

547
00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:06,160
Speaker 2: you played, you played fifteen plus years. When you're down,

548
00:24:06,520 --> 00:24:08,800
Speaker 2: is there a number that you don't feel that you

549
00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 2: can't come back from? And I know it's different than

550
00:24:11,320 --> 00:24:13,400
Speaker 2: when you first got to the league because there wasn't

551
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Speaker 2: a whole lot of twenty point comebacks because teams weren't

552
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,560
Speaker 2: shooting the three like they shoot it now. A twenty

553
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:20,400
Speaker 2: point lead in the first quarter, second quarter, even midway

554
00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 2: through the third quarter ain't ish because guys can hit.

555
00:24:23,200 --> 00:24:25,000
Speaker 2: They can get on the road and hit two or

556
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Speaker 2: three threes and a layup.

557
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Speaker 1: And what was a twenty point lead now as all

558
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Speaker 1: of a sudden the ten or eight point lead, and

559
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Speaker 1: so it's a lot different now. But was there ever

560
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Speaker 1: a number that you take your team got down and

561
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Speaker 1: you're like, well, damn, yep, we got to get ready

562
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Speaker 1: for tomorrow. Now it's a fifteen to eighteen it was.

563
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,159
Speaker 1: It was tough to come back back then. You know,

564
00:24:43,640 --> 00:24:46,080
Speaker 1: that was almost like death, right if you're down at

565
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Speaker 1: fifteen eighteen points, because you know we were gonna it's

566
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Speaker 1: the ties is turnal lot, right? You got offensive flow

567
00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 1: analytics is to me, it's getting people, getting people fired.

568
00:24:55,440 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 1: I'm a pack right, you know this analytic thing is

569
00:24:58,640 --> 00:25:00,560
Speaker 1: going crazy. Bro got them to take your bad threes

570
00:25:00,640 --> 00:25:03,000
Speaker 1: instead of good twos, good toos. Right, But I mean

571
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,160
Speaker 1: you look at our MVP ASGA. He's a mid range killer, right,

572
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,640
Speaker 1: he's taking these those tools. But but to answer your question,

573
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Speaker 1: I don't eighteen to twenty points in the playoff game. Yeah,

574
00:25:15,200 --> 00:25:16,560
Speaker 1: you gotta get ready for the next game because you

575
00:25:16,600 --> 00:25:19,160
Speaker 1: ain't coming back from that. Because most teams won't allow

576
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Speaker 1: you to because it was a defensive mind that you know,

577
00:25:22,040 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 1: the mindset you know from the start, right, So how

578
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:25,760
Speaker 1: many times we can stop you?

579
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Speaker 2: Now, how many times we can shoot you? Right?

580
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Speaker 1: And I think that's what's happening in the NBA right now.

581
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,879
Speaker 1: You have these huge swings. But you know it was

582
00:25:32,920 --> 00:25:36,119
Speaker 1: no way in hell, you know, you know if we

583
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:39,280
Speaker 1: playing somebody, or or the Pistons or in New Jersey

584
00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: had j Kidd and you know all of the good

585
00:25:40,800 --> 00:25:43,120
Speaker 1: defensive teams, they were never gonna allow you to come back.

586
00:25:43,160 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: You know.

587
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: But now I guess in two minutes you could score.

588
00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:47,800
Speaker 1: You can score twenty to twenty five and two minutes.

589
00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 1: And the problem is also jail, is that teams take

590
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Speaker 1: bad quick shots. I mean, all of a sudden, you

591
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Speaker 1: see a team going a ten o run in under

592
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Speaker 1: a minute, like hell, hey, hey, I'm just gonna hold

593
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 1: the ball, Jay, I'm just gonna hold the ball. Let

594
00:26:04,680 --> 00:26:06,720
Speaker 1: the shot clock run down. I'm gonna give it the ball.

595
00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: I'm gonna let the shot cut run down twice. I'm

596
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:10,040
Speaker 1: gonna get I will get past.

597
00:26:09,840 --> 00:26:10,920
Speaker 2: A men, listen.

598
00:26:11,440 --> 00:26:14,480
Speaker 1: And the craziest thing that I as a just a

599
00:26:14,600 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 1: life frin basketball, wing threes and corner threes create fast breaks,

600
00:26:20,119 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 1: and yes, they're out off and roll over and over.

601
00:26:23,080 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 1: You see the same thing, and unbalanced defensive floor. So

602
00:26:26,320 --> 00:26:29,199
Speaker 1: I'm not even sure exactly what they are what they're teaching,

603
00:26:29,440 --> 00:26:31,240
Speaker 1: you know, in the NBA right now from perspective of

604
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:33,680
Speaker 1: those things. But then you know, they tell them that's

605
00:26:33,680 --> 00:26:36,120
Speaker 1: the short port, that short, that short, that corner three,

606
00:26:36,160 --> 00:26:37,639
Speaker 1: that's the short three of jail.

607
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,359
Speaker 2: But what happened with that? That charm, that long careme?

608
00:26:40,400 --> 00:26:42,680
Speaker 1: And next thing, you know, the guy hey in two dribbles,

609
00:26:42,720 --> 00:26:45,119
Speaker 1: he already got somebody at the rim yep, And you're like,

610
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:48,280
Speaker 1: and they keep getting and I understand the next tonight

611
00:26:48,320 --> 00:26:50,040
Speaker 1: there's like, y'all not hit them, so we'll give them

612
00:26:50,040 --> 00:26:53,600
Speaker 1: to you. Y'all not making them right. So five of

613
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Speaker 1: twenty five, and they had some good looks. It wasn't

614
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,439
Speaker 1: like they were shooting a lot of contested threes, but

615
00:26:58,560 --> 00:27:02,719
Speaker 1: some of them were quick. It's a look I understand

616
00:27:02,760 --> 00:27:04,800
Speaker 1: who to stay wide open. Yeah, there's a reason why

617
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:06,960
Speaker 1: you wide open. And it's only twenty four and only

618
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,879
Speaker 1: twenty seconds that's going off the clock. Hey, excuse only

619
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,919
Speaker 1: four seconds going up to the clock, take it down

620
00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:14,520
Speaker 1: a little bit more if and I understand.

621
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Speaker 2: Look, the paces are flow team jail.

622
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:20,480
Speaker 1: They love to run there at their absolute best, and

623
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,280
Speaker 1: they're very few teams that can keep that pace up

624
00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,560
Speaker 1: with them. Because if you look at who they who

625
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:29,200
Speaker 1: the guys they got Nie Smith, nim Hard Mathburn, they're

626
00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,959
Speaker 1: kind of interchangeable. They're kind of like the same guy,

627
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 1: same about the same height and can get up and

628
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:34,760
Speaker 1: down and play.

629
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Speaker 2: McConnell comes in.

630
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:38,159
Speaker 1: Look, now he's not Halliburton, but he can do a

631
00:27:38,160 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 1: great job of orchestraty offense. He's a bulldog, he can

632
00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 1: make tough shots.

633
00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:43,439
Speaker 2: I love him.

634
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: He's genation's on deepense, little undersized, but he plays hard.

635
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:49,760
Speaker 1: And when you got guys like that, you don't give

636
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:51,560
Speaker 1: up a whole lot because you're not asking a guy

637
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:53,480
Speaker 1: you don't see them, I mean them leadings score on

638
00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:57,240
Speaker 1: who's that leads go propace of siaka what nineteen? So

639
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,800
Speaker 1: they have probably got another guy with seventeen, another guy

640
00:27:59,880 --> 00:28:03,080
Speaker 1: was fifteen, THEO got fifteen, fourteen, twelve. You're not going

641
00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:04,920
Speaker 1: to have the disparity when you got a guy average

642
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: twenty eight and then the next guy closed the to him,

643
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:08,360
Speaker 1: he is averaging fifteen.

644
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 3: Hey, hey, Jao, you you mentioned some of the some

645
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: of the the adjustments that that coach Carlisle could make.

646
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 2: You know how smart he is.

647
00:28:16,520 --> 00:28:19,400
Speaker 3: So obviously I'm thinking about on the other end, with

648
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,720
Speaker 3: what Tim doing something that he normally doesn't do. Normally

649
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 3: he plays seven, but tonight he played nine. What adjustments

650
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,800
Speaker 3: I know you your patients, guy, what adjustment you think

651
00:28:26,840 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 3: Tims can make to ensure that this game or this

652
00:28:29,920 --> 00:28:32,880
Speaker 3: series evens itself up next time they play on Tuesday.

653
00:28:33,280 --> 00:28:35,360
Speaker 1: Yeah, we all know that, you know, no matter who

654
00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,280
Speaker 1: we are, you know, on that professional roster, when the

655
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:42,320
Speaker 1: coach shows trust, you know, we feel confident, don't feel

656
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 1: sped up, we don't feel tight. I thought Tims did

657
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: a hell of a job on showing confidence in his bench,

658
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,000
Speaker 1: and he kept coming back to it. I thought the

659
00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:54,280
Speaker 1: previous two games he relied too much on Brunson Towns

660
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: right in the stuff. There was no side to side,

661
00:28:57,520 --> 00:29:00,160
Speaker 1: and with Brunston being sixty's one, right, he know they

662
00:29:00,200 --> 00:29:00,720
Speaker 1: trapping him.

663
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:02,120
Speaker 2: Every shot is hard.

664
00:29:02,600 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 1: I think that Tibbs has to stay with what worked

665
00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,080
Speaker 1: this game, with a understanding that you know, he may

666
00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 1: have to make it, you know, some end game adjustments.

667
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 1: But I thought, I thought tonight he was good at

668
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:14,680
Speaker 1: from that perspective. And again I was sitting there talking

669
00:29:14,720 --> 00:29:16,720
Speaker 1: to my business manager, you know, watching this game. I

670
00:29:16,760 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 1: didn't know who won the battle because it was a

671
00:29:19,720 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: tail of two different halves right where I just felt ye.

672
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:24,560
Speaker 1: In the first half, the Pacers looked like the Pacers

673
00:29:25,400 --> 00:29:28,120
Speaker 1: all side to side. They didn't want good shots, they

674
00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: wanted great shots. Then the second half, right it was stagnated,

675
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,840
Speaker 1: you know, bumped up against the shot clock. Nick's first

676
00:29:34,840 --> 00:29:38,640
Speaker 1: half stagnated. Every shot was tough. Every If you go

677
00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:40,520
Speaker 1: back and look at the game, they were even running

678
00:29:40,680 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 1: the Pacers had them running their hair, their half court offense.

679
00:29:43,800 --> 00:29:47,959
Speaker 1: Then they're at the half court line. They had him

680
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:49,920
Speaker 1: bumped up against the half court line. And then the

681
00:29:49,960 --> 00:29:52,720
Speaker 1: second half they got what they wanted called Anthony Towns

682
00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 1: for the life of God, that boy should start on

683
00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,200
Speaker 1: the box and then move his way out.

684
00:29:58,400 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 3: And you would say, you were preaching that for the

685
00:30:00,760 --> 00:30:01,840
Speaker 3: longest for years.

686
00:30:03,320 --> 00:30:04,320
Speaker 2: I don't, I don't, I don't.

687
00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why he shoots all these crazy threes,

688
00:30:07,360 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: because he does have some work down low. He does. Oh,

689
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: he's skilled. Yeah, but I thought I thought the Knicks defense.

690
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,440
Speaker 1: There are a couple of times that the Pacers got

691
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:24,800
Speaker 1: in transition, and the nixt transition defense was sensational, blocked

692
00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: them out. Hey, no you didn't getting here make him

693
00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,800
Speaker 1: pass out. They come back again, said, nope, nope, not

694
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,320
Speaker 1: doing it again. But I tell you what, when they

695
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,160
Speaker 1: take Carl laugh any times out, they got to do

696
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:36,400
Speaker 1: a better job of getting on the boards because Mitchell

697
00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:38,880
Speaker 1: Robinson's giving him too many opportunities, second chance points.

698
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:40,200
Speaker 2: And that's what he's in there for.

699
00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: He's in there to challenge if you get to it,

700
00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,440
Speaker 1: if you beat your guy, he's going to challenge you

701
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,680
Speaker 1: at the rim. But he also wants to give brunts

702
00:30:46,720 --> 00:30:49,280
Speaker 1: and he wants to give those other guys second chance opportunities.

703
00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 1: And so they're gonna have to do a better job

704
00:30:51,040 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: of keeping him off the glass. And I think if

705
00:30:53,280 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: they could do and plus also Josh Hart, remember Josh

706
00:30:56,400 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: Hart the other night, Oh Joe, he only had like

707
00:30:57,960 --> 00:30:58,760
Speaker 1: five rebounds.

708
00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,360
Speaker 2: He had ten tonight and he had that in the

709
00:31:01,400 --> 00:31:04,240
Speaker 2: reserve role. So you see he got better.

710
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 1: Nim Hard and and and and and the other guy

711
00:31:07,280 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: at and Nee Smith.

712
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,120
Speaker 2: They didn't do what they did in the first two games.

713
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 1: So one guy got better, the other two kind of

714
00:31:13,360 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: kind of slid back a little bit, and I think

715
00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:16,480
Speaker 1: that was the difference in the ball game.

716
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:17,120
Speaker 2: He gave.

717
00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: He gave you a great production eight points, twelve, ten

718
00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:25,640
Speaker 1: rebounds for fists steel and only had one turnover.

719
00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,520
Speaker 2: Because he's the Swiss Army Knife. He's the guy that's

720
00:31:28,520 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: gonna do it all.

721
00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:31,440
Speaker 1: He's gonna take a charge, he gonna give your second

722
00:31:31,520 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: chance point, hes gonna get your second chance opportunities. He's

723
00:31:33,920 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 1: gonna facilitate a he could. He's a great pass of

724
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 1: the basketball, and hey, he can, and he can. He's

725
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 1: a good defender. I thought he I thought his presidence

726
00:31:41,760 --> 00:31:44,080
Speaker 1: the night was really really good. But you're gonna have

727
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,320
Speaker 1: to do a job of keeping Mitchell Robinson off the glass.

728
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 1: Too many. He gave the Knicks too many opportunities. I mean,

729
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: he had three offensive rebounds. Josh Hart had three offensive rebounds.

730
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,440
Speaker 1: That's too many. Miles Miles Bridges had too. You gotta

731
00:31:58,480 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 1: kee him up the glass, got to. I tell you

732
00:32:00,360 --> 00:32:02,880
Speaker 1: this the X factor for me going into Game four.

733
00:32:03,000 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: He hadn't played well at all this this round.

734
00:32:07,520 --> 00:32:08,520
Speaker 2: But Benedicte mather.

735
00:32:09,200 --> 00:32:11,960
Speaker 1: Yep, he's been big for them all year and he's

736
00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:14,520
Speaker 1: really really struggled. I need to reach out to my

737
00:32:14,560 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: young boy and just he just need to just relax

738
00:32:16,800 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: and play the game.

739
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 2: He knows how to play, but he hadn't been great

740
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:20,160
Speaker 2: for him.

741
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,960
Speaker 1: If he comes out and he plays the way he's

742
00:32:23,000 --> 00:32:26,240
Speaker 1: capable of playing where he played this season, it will

743
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:31,440
Speaker 1: be difficult right to try to double Haliburton or anybody else.

744
00:32:31,520 --> 00:32:35,160
Speaker 2: Right, I think you know he's an X factor for me?

745
00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I thought I thought I didn't think Siaka was

746
00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 1: aggressive enough to night. Remember the other night he had

747
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 1: what twenty three shot at temph to night he had fourteen,

748
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,000
Speaker 1: Myles Turnatives had twelve.

749
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: Halliburton has fifteen. Bro.

750
00:32:47,320 --> 00:32:49,800
Speaker 1: Come on, now, if you just had a thirty nine

751
00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:53,600
Speaker 1: point game and you cool with taking fourteen shots, ill, No,

752
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:55,640
Speaker 1: I'm trying to get me another thirty nine point game.

753
00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:56,480
Speaker 2: I'm going to the rack.

754
00:32:56,560 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 3: Hey, young Hey, do you think the players know? Do

755
00:32:59,400 --> 00:33:02,160
Speaker 3: you think someone keeps tracking how many shots they taking? Joe,

756
00:33:04,200 --> 00:33:05,560
Speaker 3: did you keep tracking how many balls?

757
00:33:05,560 --> 00:33:07,880
Speaker 2: You call it? You're talking the ball? You go to the

758
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,200
Speaker 2: lab game? Hold on, now about football and basketball is

759
00:33:11,280 --> 00:33:13,480
Speaker 2: kind of different. Do you do.

760
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 3: Do you really know on the court jail how many

761
00:33:15,240 --> 00:33:17,040
Speaker 3: shots you've taken in the game? Do they do coaches

762
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 3: let you know you just have free will?

763
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 2: Jorge? Yeah, yeah, you you definitely know.

764
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 1: You can know because on the sideline almost every time

765
00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 1: out they have scores, you know, score sheet where you

766
00:33:27,040 --> 00:33:28,840
Speaker 1: can go look at, you know, the stat sheet on

767
00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:29,800
Speaker 1: what you know, what you're doing.

768
00:33:29,840 --> 00:33:31,920
Speaker 2: Typically you might ask a coach, hey, man, you know

769
00:33:31,920 --> 00:33:33,400
Speaker 2: what so long? How many shots to take? It?

770
00:33:33,840 --> 00:33:37,120
Speaker 1: Especially especially if you're struggling a little bit right right,

771
00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 1: you're gonna ask that question. Because now they got thirty

772
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 1: seven coaches on the roster. You know, if you look

773
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: behind the bench, somebody has everybody but you do. You

774
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:48,760
Speaker 1: are you are aware on how many shots you've taken

775
00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: and what your stats are because you know, you always

776
00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,280
Speaker 1: got that one one of the two coaches that's telling you

777
00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:55,240
Speaker 1: know what's going on in the game because they want

778
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:58,280
Speaker 1: you to be aggressive. He needs to be aggressive. And

779
00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 1: like I said, and you see what when he's aggressive.

780
00:34:01,120 --> 00:34:03,440
Speaker 1: The guys that are aggressive that need to be aggressive

781
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: Siakam and Halliburt, they're supposed to be your two best players,

782
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 1: where your two best players need to play like your

783
00:34:08,960 --> 00:34:11,440
Speaker 1: two best players, and they should never have to be

784
00:34:11,480 --> 00:34:13,640
Speaker 1: in a feel like they're in a reserve role. Sometimes

785
00:34:13,640 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: I feel like Halliburt feel like like he's a role player,

786
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,399
Speaker 1: like he a bench player. Noah, Bro, you're an all star.

787
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 1: Wouldn't you have to you as a gold medal? Be

788
00:34:21,600 --> 00:34:21,879
Speaker 1: like that?

789
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:22,680
Speaker 2: Be him?

790
00:34:23,560 --> 00:34:27,000
Speaker 1: Be him. You just dropped thirty nine. Bro, you just

791
00:34:27,080 --> 00:34:29,480
Speaker 1: dropped thirty nine. Took twenty three shots to get it,

792
00:34:30,120 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: and you cool with taking fourteen? Noh, bro, gon try

793
00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:34,920
Speaker 1: to get that back. Be aggressive because he was aggressive

794
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: in game two. I'm telling extremely aggressive. I guess the

795
00:34:39,200 --> 00:34:42,879
Speaker 1: question is you know when you when you're the away team,

796
00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 1: you expected, right, you expect this to viciousness, to people

797
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:51,080
Speaker 1: talking about your mama, your kids. You expect that when

798
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: you walk into you know, you know, to arena. When

799
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:58,439
Speaker 1: you come home. You almost try to be too perfect, yes, right,

800
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,760
Speaker 1: try to on yourself with being perfect and doing everything

801
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 1: right because you don't want to let your home crowd down.

802
00:35:05,040 --> 00:35:07,279
Speaker 2: And it looks that way.

803
00:35:07,320 --> 00:35:09,360
Speaker 1: That's why tonight I thought the Pacers were a little

804
00:35:09,400 --> 00:35:11,759
Speaker 1: too tight. You know, when things got tight, you know,

805
00:35:11,800 --> 00:35:13,880
Speaker 1: when the game got tight, you know, people wanted to

806
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 1: rely on somebody else to do it, versus they overpassed

807
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: the ball. Jail, I was looking at bro. Stop shooting

808
00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:23,600
Speaker 1: the ball, YEP, wouldn't shoot it, everybody. I want to

809
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 1: make that man. I want to make sure. I want

810
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:27,600
Speaker 1: to make the right play. No, Bro, shoot the ball,

811
00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,640
Speaker 1: shoot it, shoot it. You don't have to be perfect.

812
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,960
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody gonna call you selfish. Nobody looks at the

813
00:35:32,960 --> 00:35:35,680
Speaker 1: Pacers and think this is a selfish ball club because

814
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: we have too many guys that scoring double figures. So

815
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: you can't have that many guys scoring in double figures

816
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,080
Speaker 1: and be a selfish ball club. We don't think you're

817
00:35:43,080 --> 00:35:45,960
Speaker 1: a selfish ball club. But you don't have to be perfect.

818
00:35:46,239 --> 00:35:49,120
Speaker 1: You don't have to be perfect to win. And I

819
00:35:49,200 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: just thought tonight, I thought, sometimes they overpassed the ball

820
00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:52,839
Speaker 1: and it ended up turning it over.

821
00:35:53,719 --> 00:35:57,239
Speaker 3: Hold On, you call it overpassing. What happened to not

822
00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 3: being in rhythm? What happened not being in common, not

823
00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:03,120
Speaker 3: having the confidence shoot the ball at that specific time?

824
00:36:03,440 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 3: Based on the circum sands of the game at the time.

825
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,160
Speaker 3: You said, well, all their players most of the time

826
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:10,680
Speaker 3: are in double figures. All Yeah, those players are also

827
00:36:10,719 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 3: in rhythm. Also, those players are also a little bit

828
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,319
Speaker 3: more efficient from the field than they were tonight, so

829
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,120
Speaker 3: there's a little bit more comfortability with taking those shots

830
00:36:18,160 --> 00:36:20,120
Speaker 3: as opposed to overpass the night.

831
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 2: You know what, I'm not.

832
00:36:21,160 --> 00:36:23,480
Speaker 3: In rhythm right now, based on the game and the

833
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:25,360
Speaker 3: circumstance that we're in right now, I don't want to

834
00:36:25,400 --> 00:36:27,680
Speaker 3: take that shot from somebody else.

835
00:36:28,360 --> 00:36:31,279
Speaker 1: Well, you can't feel like that the ball gonna find you.

836
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:35,040
Speaker 1: You ever noticed you ever noticed how they put infield

837
00:36:35,160 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 1: outfielder in the field or infield in baseball, throw the ball,

838
00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:40,560
Speaker 1: find it, the ball getting hit right to them, somebody

839
00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:43,680
Speaker 1: getting it. We need a spere receiver, everybody cover somehohow

840
00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,919
Speaker 1: the ball got to find hire or the dB when

841
00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:47,640
Speaker 1: they put a D corner in the game, the spot

842
00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: whatever he is, What what do ball do? The ball

843
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,920
Speaker 1: gonna find you every time. So if you if you're

844
00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:55,680
Speaker 1: not if you're not confident, somehow the ball won't find.

845
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,239
Speaker 2: That goes back to what this more of a question

846
00:36:58,239 --> 00:37:01,120
Speaker 2: for both of you guys. Are you Are you more.

847
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 3: Comfortable at home or the villain on the road or

848
00:37:05,000 --> 00:37:06,600
Speaker 3: I like I like I like being the villain on

849
00:37:06,600 --> 00:37:09,600
Speaker 3: the road. I like you, I like kay I, I

850
00:37:10,040 --> 00:37:12,400
Speaker 3: operate very well in a chaotic environment.

851
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm comfortable being uncomfortable. It's weird. Yep, no I play.

852
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,399
Speaker 2: I played. I think I played my best at home.

853
00:37:20,680 --> 00:37:21,960
Speaker 1: I just wanted to be I just want to be

854
00:37:22,000 --> 00:37:23,480
Speaker 1: able to hear the snapcount because I'm trying to get

855
00:37:23,520 --> 00:37:26,480
Speaker 1: down to feel as fast as I can. And if

856
00:37:26,520 --> 00:37:29,120
Speaker 1: you notice, and when they when when in track meets,

857
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,840
Speaker 1: when they say runners to their mark, everything.

858
00:37:31,520 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 2: Is hushed talking for everybody here. Hit the gun. I

859
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:35,359
Speaker 2: need to hear a gun.

860
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:39,799
Speaker 1: I need to hear that hunt and and ball up

861
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:49,200
Speaker 1: out of there. Let me know what you think about this,

862
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,839
Speaker 1: jail Jeff t says Jaylen Bronson holding the ball for

863
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:53,600
Speaker 1: most of the shot clock is the reason why New

864
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:56,680
Speaker 1: York initially went down two against the Pacers.

865
00:37:56,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: You know how the Knicks lose these games.

866
00:37:58,800 --> 00:38:01,279
Speaker 1: The shot clock is twenty four, Jayalen brunther it hold

867
00:38:01,360 --> 00:38:02,600
Speaker 1: the ball for seventeen of them.

868
00:38:02,760 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: They don't get no rhythm. You agree or disagree?

869
00:38:05,840 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 1: I agree, I agree, And that's what I thought happening,

870
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:11,120
Speaker 1: especially the first game when he came back in when

871
00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,240
Speaker 1: they were up. You know, I think you're up seventeen.

872
00:38:13,280 --> 00:38:15,319
Speaker 1: He came back in and the rhythm they just looked

873
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:18,000
Speaker 1: out of swords. When you talk, you're talking about two

874
00:38:18,000 --> 00:38:21,320
Speaker 1: teams and the top seven and top eight defensively in

875
00:38:21,400 --> 00:38:25,000
Speaker 1: the NBA, right, And so both can guard and the

876
00:38:25,000 --> 00:38:28,240
Speaker 1: Pacers they're physical, they switch every day, and they have size.

877
00:38:28,640 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: And with Brunston at six foot one, is as good

878
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:33,840
Speaker 1: as he is with the ball. It's crafty, you know,

879
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:36,680
Speaker 1: one of the best guards in the league. In the

880
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:39,880
Speaker 1: playoff scenario, I think it makes it tough when he

881
00:38:39,920 --> 00:38:41,520
Speaker 1: has the ball in his hand and the majority of

882
00:38:41,600 --> 00:38:44,280
Speaker 1: the time he's dribling, dribbling, dribbling, and you get bumped

883
00:38:44,320 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 1: up against the shot clot all of a sudden, the

884
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:48,839
Speaker 1: ball find somebody else with two seconds, you know, two

885
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: seconds of going the shot clock. That's not a great

886
00:38:51,080 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 1: rhythm for two Nottins that are really good defensively, and

887
00:38:55,040 --> 00:38:58,040
Speaker 1: really both of them are top the top seven offensively

888
00:38:58,080 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: as well. Right, So if he can be top seven

889
00:38:59,840 --> 00:39:02,640
Speaker 1: off defensively, doesn't mean the ball moves around. And I

890
00:39:02,680 --> 00:39:06,080
Speaker 1: thought tonight it was almost a mere image of a

891
00:39:06,080 --> 00:39:08,400
Speaker 1: really good offensive team because in the second half the

892
00:39:08,480 --> 00:39:10,120
Speaker 1: Knicks were able to move the ball around and people

893
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:11,880
Speaker 1: are able to hurt, you know, hurt you you know

894
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 1: doing that. And I thought called Anthony Towns his best

895
00:39:14,680 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 1: even though he's some big threes. Look at how many

896
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,560
Speaker 1: times he got to the basket, right, That opens up

897
00:39:20,600 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: his three ball because now he's attacking the basket. Now

898
00:39:23,320 --> 00:39:24,720
Speaker 1: people can't stay in front of him.

899
00:39:25,040 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 2: Right.

900
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:29,080
Speaker 3: So I mean to based on what jef T said,

901
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:31,879
Speaker 3: Jail you can probably you know, correct me if I'm wrong.

902
00:39:32,840 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 3: Is there a way that Jen and Brusson can operate

903
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,360
Speaker 3: the offense and getting the ball and be quick and

904
00:39:37,440 --> 00:39:39,960
Speaker 3: getting everything set up, be quick, but not in a

905
00:39:40,040 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 3: hurry as I feel like you rushing things.

906
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:44,520
Speaker 2: Well, I think you got to.

907
00:39:44,560 --> 00:39:47,480
Speaker 1: I think walking the ball down, you know, put him

908
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:49,279
Speaker 1: up against the clock from the start, right, I think

909
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:52,200
Speaker 1: getting the ball out, you know on in particular, missus,

910
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:54,680
Speaker 1: you know, let's get the ball up the court. Nothing's there, boom,

911
00:39:54,760 --> 00:39:56,719
Speaker 1: let's get into our offense. Let's get let's get a

912
00:39:56,800 --> 00:39:59,120
Speaker 1: really good shot based off our offense. A lot of

913
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,440
Speaker 1: times when they get if you want, I want you

914
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,920
Speaker 1: guys watched this of the next you know, hopefully the

915
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: Cippies doesn't go too many more games. So why so

916
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 1: many times they walk the ball up against. It's hard

917
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,000
Speaker 1: to walk the ball up against really good defensive teams,

918
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,160
Speaker 1: right because they're set and they're waiting and they're trying

919
00:40:18,160 --> 00:40:20,600
Speaker 1: to take everything away. And I just think that, you know,

920
00:40:20,800 --> 00:40:23,839
Speaker 1: with him, with his size and how crafty is he has,

921
00:40:24,040 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: he has to put his stself in a better position

922
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 1: into the shot clock a little bit earlier. Man, I'm

923
00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:31,000
Speaker 1: looking at this jail. I don't know if you saw

924
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:36,000
Speaker 1: these stats, but Nicks only had thirteen of cis. Bridges

925
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,000
Speaker 1: had one, Og had two, Cat had one, Robinson had one,

926
00:40:40,360 --> 00:40:44,319
Speaker 1: Bronson had one, McBride had none, Hart had four, Right

927
00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: had one.

928
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,040
Speaker 2: Shamman had two.

929
00:40:47,440 --> 00:40:50,280
Speaker 1: You scored one hundred plus points and you got thirteen

930
00:40:50,320 --> 00:40:51,280
Speaker 1: of cists.

931
00:40:52,200 --> 00:40:54,319
Speaker 2: That is crazy. And I'm looking at that.

932
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:57,879
Speaker 1: I even I didn't know that thirteen and you got

933
00:40:57,880 --> 00:41:00,200
Speaker 1: one hundred points. I think you're gonna have thirteen to sais,

934
00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 1: You're gonna have probably about seventy five eighty. There's a

935
00:41:03,600 --> 00:41:05,600
Speaker 1: lot of catching the holding and that's the dom Yeah,

936
00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:09,520
Speaker 1: exactly it. See if that's the same, and sometimes you

937
00:41:09,520 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: know you're getting put backs, you letting the team get

938
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,759
Speaker 1: second chance points on you. Nobody creates an assists for you.

939
00:41:14,920 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 1: That's just you doing the ball, and so it's gonna

940
00:41:17,239 --> 00:41:19,600
Speaker 1: be interesting to see. I'm axious to see the adjustments.

941
00:41:19,760 --> 00:41:23,000
Speaker 1: We saw the adjustments that the Knicks made. The adjustment

942
00:41:23,200 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 1: was insert Mitchell Robinson, get the ball out of Halley's hand.

943
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:30,560
Speaker 1: Let's see if somebody else can create office for this team. Uh.

944
00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,239
Speaker 2: Leading assists guy was Halle. They had a couple of

945
00:41:33,239 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 2: guys with three.

946
00:41:33,920 --> 00:41:36,800
Speaker 1: McConnell had three, mem Hardy had three, Turner had three.

947
00:41:37,280 --> 00:41:39,360
Speaker 1: Neie Smiths played twenty six minutes. Bro, you gotta give us,

948
00:41:39,440 --> 00:41:42,400
Speaker 1: you gotta give us a call on that zero assists. Fascal,

949
00:41:42,480 --> 00:41:45,080
Speaker 1: I need about four or five assists from you. Yeah,

950
00:41:45,120 --> 00:41:47,719
Speaker 1: because you'd have guy, because you just scored thirty nine.

951
00:41:47,880 --> 00:41:50,760
Speaker 1: They make them come help you make them come, doube

952
00:41:51,000 --> 00:41:51,960
Speaker 1: See you're not aggressive.

953
00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 2: They like and I know. Look, og Is is a

954
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:54,760
Speaker 2: very good defending.

955
00:41:54,800 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: He got the best of o g Yeah game two,

956
00:41:58,360 --> 00:42:02,200
Speaker 1: og held his own Game three, og Ga sixteen. So

957
00:42:02,239 --> 00:42:05,840
Speaker 1: they basically played to a stand still. But Pascal's minus

958
00:42:05,920 --> 00:42:10,040
Speaker 1: twenty one. He's minus twenty one. You had the lowest

959
00:42:10,040 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 1: plus minus of anybody that text.

960
00:42:11,480 --> 00:42:13,400
Speaker 2: The court, well to.

961
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: I guess, I guess the magical word for this series

962
00:42:19,080 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 1: is sustainability. Right, Can you sustain what you did in

963
00:42:23,760 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: the first half and bring it to the second half

964
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:30,279
Speaker 1: and be better, right, or at least, you know, keep

965
00:42:30,280 --> 00:42:32,480
Speaker 1: it at the same level. It seems like in this

966
00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:35,719
Speaker 1: series as it's a changing of the guards when it

967
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:38,680
Speaker 1: comes to how they're performing from half to halts.

968
00:42:39,120 --> 00:42:39,279
Speaker 2: Right.

969
00:42:39,680 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: And so I think that you know, you know, the

970
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:45,040
Speaker 1: way the Pacers had it rocking in the first half

971
00:42:45,280 --> 00:42:48,120
Speaker 1: of tonight, if they can take that same energy and

972
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 1: bring it, you know, to the second half, they run

973
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:53,920
Speaker 1: away with this game probably by thirty Yeah, and yeah,

974
00:42:53,960 --> 00:42:55,600
Speaker 1: you can say that to you know, you can say that.

975
00:42:55,600 --> 00:42:57,839
Speaker 1: I mean, even though the Pacers shot the lights out

976
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:02,040
Speaker 1: of it, you know, the first game. But it's just

977
00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:04,640
Speaker 1: it's just it's just strange, man, Like these these these

978
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: big swings and in the playoffs right where you know,

979
00:43:08,480 --> 00:43:11,239
Speaker 1: it's not you're playing the same team, right, it's not like, right,

980
00:43:11,320 --> 00:43:13,040
Speaker 1: you got to redo the you know, Scott report.

981
00:43:13,920 --> 00:43:16,160
Speaker 2: But I guess it's it's kind of the new era

982
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:16,440
Speaker 2: when it.

983
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:19,280
Speaker 1: You know, it depends on who's gonna get hot, who's

984
00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: gonna be aggressive, who wants to impact the game, who

985
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:23,160
Speaker 1: doesn't want to impact the game.

986
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 2: Who feels good, who doesn't feel good.

987
00:43:25,600 --> 00:43:28,480
Speaker 1: It's a lot of scenarios that it's coming into play Man,

988
00:43:29,239 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 1: which is, you know, which is unusual for something, you know,

989
00:43:31,200 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 1: just late in the season. Yeah, and I go back

990
00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:36,239
Speaker 1: to a jail and I want to and I think

991
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,640
Speaker 1: this is what happened, is that when they got that

992
00:43:38,680 --> 00:43:41,320
Speaker 1: twenty point lead, I thought they was gonna close it

993
00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 1: out and probably keep it at twenty, maybe even get

994
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 1: push it somewhere around thirty, right, But.

995
00:43:46,120 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 2: The Knicks had other idea. The Knicks ended up cutting it.

996
00:43:48,719 --> 00:43:51,319
Speaker 1: They ended up going to like a mini run, and

997
00:43:51,360 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 1: they ended up cutting it to thirteen, so they had

998
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 1: to feel really really good thirteen and still boy share

999
00:43:56,520 --> 00:43:58,879
Speaker 1: and that's still double digits. But still you were down

1000
00:43:58,960 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 1: twenty and in the blink of but now you got

1001
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:05,239
Speaker 1: it down. You got it down to thirteen. And and

1002
00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:07,560
Speaker 1: I thought, like early in the third, you know, they

1003
00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:10,560
Speaker 1: got it down to ten and then the Pacers pushing

1004
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: back to fifteen. But then all of a sudden, you

1005
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:15,239
Speaker 1: see them get that thing down to seven, they get

1006
00:44:15,239 --> 00:44:15,920
Speaker 1: it down to five.

1007
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:22,879
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, oh yeah, oh, now you're at home and.

1008
00:44:24,360 --> 00:44:27,000
Speaker 1: Your quiet, your crowd as long as I can get longer,

1009
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,720
Speaker 1: as long as I can keep the crowd out of it, jail.

1010
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: I like my chances from the road team. Now I

1011
00:44:32,280 --> 00:44:33,319
Speaker 2: done got the crowd out of it.

1012
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 1: You had him in the you had him in the

1013
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,480
Speaker 1: game in the second quarter, and now here it is

1014
00:44:36,480 --> 00:44:38,760
Speaker 1: the third quarter, getting ready to head into the fourth,

1015
00:44:38,920 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 1: and they quiet yeah again. And I love Terry Halliburton.

1016
00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,359
Speaker 1: I think he's a hell of a player. I think

1017
00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: he's going to just continue to get better. But I

1018
00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:50,680
Speaker 1: didn't see on that. I didn't see out there tonight

1019
00:44:50,719 --> 00:44:54,760
Speaker 1: where somebody was like, Yo, you give me the damn ball, right,

1020
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 1: give me the ball, right, I'm about to do this.

1021
00:44:56,640 --> 00:45:00,200
Speaker 1: And as as the point guard, you can really at

1022
00:45:00,239 --> 00:45:03,000
Speaker 1: the table and set and set the chemistry of the

1023
00:45:03,040 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 1: team with that mentality, right, And I just felt like

1024
00:45:06,000 --> 00:45:07,360
Speaker 1: a lot of times, you look, he was kind of

1025
00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:09,160
Speaker 1: off ball, and I understand they were trapping him when

1026
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,040
Speaker 1: he got the ball, but he has to be a

1027
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:13,960
Speaker 1: little bit more aggressive about, you know, the will to

1028
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 1: want to win the game. And I think he will

1029
00:45:16,080 --> 00:45:19,440
Speaker 1: be because he seems like a really good competitor. But

1030
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:21,720
Speaker 1: he's gonna have to be because now now the Knicks

1031
00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: feeling like, hey man, we get this one and we

1032
00:45:24,560 --> 00:45:26,680
Speaker 1: get to go back to the garden. You know, we're

1033
00:45:26,719 --> 00:45:29,360
Speaker 1: in a great position. And to tell you the truth,

1034
00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,640
Speaker 1: it's a must win situation for the Pacers.

1035
00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:34,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, come get before.

1036
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,319
Speaker 1: They got to win that game because if you go

1037
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:40,399
Speaker 1: back to two, now it's the best side of three. Yeah,

1038
00:45:40,520 --> 00:45:42,320
Speaker 1: make it hard on yourself when the Knicks have a

1039
00:45:42,400 --> 00:45:46,400
Speaker 1: home court yep, Sga said. The Thunder got punched in

1040
00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,560
Speaker 1: the mouth by Anthony Edwards and the Wolves. We got

1041
00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 1: punched in the mouth and next game we're either going

1042
00:45:50,480 --> 00:45:52,759
Speaker 1: to get back up or not, and we'll lose the game.

1043
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,160
Speaker 2: The timber Wolds shot lights out in Game three. They

1044
00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:56,719
Speaker 2: hit fifty seven percent of their shot.

1045
00:45:56,800 --> 00:45:59,120
Speaker 1: They went twenty or forty from the three point line,

1046
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 1: collected night team, more rebounds, had fourteen more points in

1047
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,760
Speaker 1: the paint, and man thirty points in thirty minutes now rebounds,

1048
00:46:05,800 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: five or sis two steals he was plus he was

1049
00:46:08,440 --> 00:46:11,000
Speaker 1: twelve or seventeen from the floor, five of eight from

1050
00:46:11,000 --> 00:46:12,920
Speaker 1: the three. Finally got that three ball going because the

1051
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:16,720
Speaker 1: first two games it was non existent. Plus thirty six,

1052
00:46:17,520 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 1: five and one in the target center this postseason.

1053
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 2: Which Thaya jail I don't.

1054
00:46:25,280 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 1: There's no way Oklahoma City plays the way they play,

1055
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,719
Speaker 1: and I think it'll be difficult for Minnesota. Minnesota and

1056
00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:36,600
Speaker 1: will them in that first half, you know, he he

1057
00:46:37,000 --> 00:46:37,960
Speaker 1: just simply willed them.

1058
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:40,360
Speaker 2: I don't know if.

1059
00:46:41,640 --> 00:46:45,360
Speaker 1: Minnesota has the debt two because again, you got a

1060
00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: thing in the playoffs that will come.

1061
00:46:48,680 --> 00:46:52,160
Speaker 2: What happens if they start trapping and man, and then

1062
00:46:52,200 --> 00:46:52,920
Speaker 2: who you go to?

1063
00:46:53,560 --> 00:46:57,120
Speaker 1: Right, you're talking about OKC is one of the best

1064
00:46:57,160 --> 00:46:57,880
Speaker 1: scoring teams.

1065
00:46:57,880 --> 00:46:59,000
Speaker 2: Hell, they said it, they said it.

1066
00:46:59,040 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 1: They was historical, you know, historical this year when it

1067
00:47:01,520 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: came to yeah, you know, margins of victory, right, that

1068
00:47:05,400 --> 00:47:08,120
Speaker 1: came because the level of depth when it comes to scoring,

1069
00:47:09,040 --> 00:47:11,960
Speaker 1: it's probably best in the league. Right, And so I

1070
00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,160
Speaker 1: would think that they're gonna come back, you know, with

1071
00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:16,520
Speaker 1: the sense of urgency and do the things that they've

1072
00:47:16,600 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 1: just completed them in doing all year. Right, It's not

1073
00:47:19,600 --> 00:47:20,960
Speaker 1: something that they got to go in and figure out

1074
00:47:20,960 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 1: in the locker, Right, you know who's gonna do what?

1075
00:47:22,760 --> 00:47:24,160
Speaker 1: They just got to get back to doing what they've

1076
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:26,240
Speaker 1: been doing, and then you know they're gonna be fine.

1077
00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 1: I think they this is this is a year that

1078
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:34,600
Speaker 1: I would love to see them play against the Pacers

1079
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,080
Speaker 1: because you got two teams that play with depth, and

1080
00:47:39,120 --> 00:47:41,040
Speaker 1: I think it's ultimately may end up being that way.

1081
00:47:41,120 --> 00:47:44,279
Speaker 1: But I see a series going being three to one

1082
00:47:44,560 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 1: after tomorrow night. Yeah, hey, you I'm looking at this.

1083
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:53,400
Speaker 1: I thought the Timberwolves got Shannon Junior came up the

1084
00:47:53,400 --> 00:47:55,760
Speaker 1: bench in thirteen minutes and gave him fifteen big points.

1085
00:47:55,840 --> 00:47:56,040
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1086
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:59,120
Speaker 1: I thought Dante Deevin Chienzo hears some big threes to

1087
00:47:59,239 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: keep that lead, keep that.

1088
00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,839
Speaker 2: When at Man went to the.

1089
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:07,239
Speaker 1: Bench, I thought navs Reed played played probably his best

1090
00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:09,480
Speaker 1: game of this sedition short series thus far.

1091
00:48:09,840 --> 00:48:10,640
Speaker 2: Miller came in.

1092
00:48:11,080 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: I just thought, look, but the keys for them is

1093
00:48:14,760 --> 00:48:16,600
Speaker 1: ant Man to be efficient and Drew Raanda.

1094
00:48:17,120 --> 00:48:18,080
Speaker 2: You look at jew Radna.

1095
00:48:18,120 --> 00:48:19,759
Speaker 1: He had a really good game Game one, and then

1096
00:48:19,800 --> 00:48:22,000
Speaker 1: he was non existing in game two and they got

1097
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:23,959
Speaker 1: blown out. He didn't even play in the fourth quarter.

1098
00:48:24,239 --> 00:48:25,719
Speaker 1: They're like, now we good get to go on sail

1099
00:48:25,800 --> 00:48:28,400
Speaker 1: there and get your mind right. They showed the clipboy.

1100
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:29,799
Speaker 1: He's telling the feferal, y'all go ahead and go we

1101
00:48:29,960 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 1: I ain't going back in the game. We ain't about

1102
00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:34,120
Speaker 1: to win this game. I see all the Hey, we're

1103
00:48:34,120 --> 00:48:35,799
Speaker 1: getting ready to go back to Minnesota. We're gonna give

1104
00:48:35,840 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: him something there. Randa was nine to fifteen from the floor,

1105
00:48:39,000 --> 00:48:41,320
Speaker 1: two of five, four to fourth from the free throw line,

1106
00:48:41,600 --> 00:48:45,560
Speaker 1: plus thirty eight in thirty minutes twenty four points. Ant Man,

1107
00:48:45,600 --> 00:48:48,040
Speaker 1: as I said before, thirty minutes twelve or seventeen, five

1108
00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 1: of eight, one of two for the free throw line.

1109
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:54,480
Speaker 1: He had nine rebounds, six as sists, two steals plus

1110
00:48:54,480 --> 00:49:00,000
Speaker 1: thirty six thirty points. When those two guys getting it going. Now, McDaniels,

1111
00:49:00,000 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: here's some big shot yesterday. I thought he did a

1112
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:03,480
Speaker 1: good job and thought he did a better job on Shay,

1113
00:49:03,760 --> 00:49:05,680
Speaker 1: did a great job of keeping keeping him off the

1114
00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:08,160
Speaker 1: fire line. He only had four free throw attempts. You know,

1115
00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:11,279
Speaker 1: Shade normally somewhere in that ten. He could easily be

1116
00:49:11,320 --> 00:49:15,400
Speaker 1: ten to thirteen attempts for night. I thought they did

1117
00:49:15,440 --> 00:49:18,240
Speaker 1: a great job of keeping him off the file line,

1118
00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: making it tough on everybody. Rudy Gobert had his best game,

1119
00:49:22,680 --> 00:49:27,239
Speaker 1: although he only had seven points. But I thought the

1120
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: bench for Minnesota was sensational last night, and they needed

1121
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:35,040
Speaker 1: to be because that's where Okay, see you look at

1122
00:49:35,080 --> 00:49:37,160
Speaker 1: Okac's bench when they come with Caruso, and they come

1123
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:38,960
Speaker 1: with Wiggins, and they come with Wallace, and they come

1124
00:49:39,000 --> 00:49:41,560
Speaker 1: without saying Joe, they don't miss a beat. They ate,

1125
00:49:41,880 --> 00:49:46,080
Speaker 1: they got the other Jalen Williams. They they're they're deep.

1126
00:49:46,200 --> 00:49:48,720
Speaker 1: They gonna play. They have to play ten eleven guys

1127
00:49:49,320 --> 00:49:52,240
Speaker 1: that did not have a problem playing playing it, playing

1128
00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:54,799
Speaker 1: his rook guys. He believed him, like, we've been playing

1129
00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,040
Speaker 1: them all year, while we're gonna get to the playoffs

1130
00:49:57,080 --> 00:50:00,279
Speaker 1: now and cut our bench, increase those guys minute, get

1131
00:50:00,320 --> 00:50:01,920
Speaker 1: them tired, and put him in a situation that I

1132
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:03,640
Speaker 1: used to be in it all year. So I like

1133
00:50:03,680 --> 00:50:04,440
Speaker 1: his philosophy.

1134
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 3: Hey, and and also you know the peggyback on what

1135
00:50:08,239 --> 00:50:12,680
Speaker 3: Jo said about obviously them making the adjustments for Anthony

1136
00:50:12,800 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 3: Edwards to stop him. Obviously, what do you what are

1137
00:50:15,160 --> 00:50:18,120
Speaker 3: they going to do once they trapp him? Well, obviously,

1138
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 3: and you got to know that coming out already that

1139
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 3: they're gonna make adjustments to try and stop you, and

1140
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:24,920
Speaker 3: having the kick from everybody else in the bench has

1141
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:27,400
Speaker 3: they have to find a way to play the exact

1142
00:50:27,440 --> 00:50:28,680
Speaker 3: same way they did this game.

1143
00:50:29,160 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: Shannon Jr. DEVI, you said I don't want to Vicenzo.

1144
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:38,880
Speaker 3: Uh McDaniels and ain't got to be aggressive again, trapp

1145
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:41,319
Speaker 3: or not. Hey, there were games you win into you

1146
00:50:41,320 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 3: know this double team is coming.

1147
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 2: Yep.

1148
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 3: I don't man, I don't see none of that. You

1149
00:50:47,200 --> 00:50:49,480
Speaker 3: know what, he has to have that same mentality that

1150
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:51,400
Speaker 3: he had this game he got address.

1151
00:50:51,840 --> 00:50:53,560
Speaker 1: If you go back and look at him with the Lakers,

1152
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:55,680
Speaker 1: there are a lot of times he had like twelve cents,

1153
00:50:55,800 --> 00:50:58,839
Speaker 1: he had nine and siss. He trusted his guys. Now

1154
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,120
Speaker 1: if you let him slip through the crack, he going

1155
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,400
Speaker 1: to the rim. Every time you go, he going to

1156
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,600
Speaker 1: the rim. But the thing that I like about him,

1157
00:51:05,640 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 1: he is very unselfish. He will give the ball up. Now,

1158
00:51:08,920 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: he's gonna give the ball up if you're knocking down shots. Yeah,

1159
00:51:12,320 --> 00:51:15,040
Speaker 1: his mentality is you're not knocking down shots and we

1160
00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:16,880
Speaker 1: lose it. Let me go in this phone booth and

1161
00:51:16,880 --> 00:51:19,359
Speaker 1: put this cap on and see what I can do. Right, well,

1162
00:51:19,719 --> 00:51:22,600
Speaker 1: I say this, I will say this and again every

1163
00:51:22,640 --> 00:51:26,400
Speaker 1: player in whether it's NDIA, NFL, Major League Baseball, NHL,

1164
00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:29,440
Speaker 1: those are the very best athletes in the world. Absolutely

1165
00:51:29,560 --> 00:51:31,719
Speaker 1: just start there. Don't be done on nobody. People be

1166
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:34,560
Speaker 1: like this man the gallon then he ain't good. Nah,

1167
00:51:34,560 --> 00:51:38,800
Speaker 1: he's good. Yeah, yeah, it's good. He just ain't that

1168
00:51:38,920 --> 00:51:41,799
Speaker 1: than it was. You know, it's out there right right

1169
00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:44,359
Speaker 1: right right. I will say this and you almost saw

1170
00:51:44,400 --> 00:51:48,319
Speaker 1: it happen tonight. If Karl Anthony Towns don't go for

1171
00:51:48,400 --> 00:51:53,120
Speaker 1: twenty you know, in that in that in that fourth quarter, Yeah,

1172
00:51:53,120 --> 00:51:55,359
Speaker 1: if you put people it's one thing about you know,

1173
00:51:55,400 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 1: having a you know, having an opportunity to get you know,

1174
00:51:58,000 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 1: to get having yourself a night, right, well, in the playoffs,

1175
00:52:02,600 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: if you have yourself a night, then the next night

1176
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,880
Speaker 1: it's going to be a script for you with tickling basketball.

1177
00:52:09,080 --> 00:52:11,080
Speaker 2: Right. And so from that perspective is.

1178
00:52:11,040 --> 00:52:14,360
Speaker 1: Can you have the will and endurance, mind, body and

1179
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:15,960
Speaker 1: soul to come and have another one?

1180
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:16,120
Speaker 2: One?

1181
00:52:16,160 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 1: Typically that hadn't been your role, right, And so that's

1182
00:52:19,760 --> 00:52:22,680
Speaker 1: the difference when I see teams like Indiana, teams like

1183
00:52:22,840 --> 00:52:27,719
Speaker 1: Okay se where they've all season long depending on that debt,

1184
00:52:27,880 --> 00:52:30,560
Speaker 1: and they've been every night somebody goes to twenty five

1185
00:52:30,760 --> 00:52:33,719
Speaker 1: or you know, twenty two. Right, it's been consistent. And

1186
00:52:33,800 --> 00:52:36,239
Speaker 1: you hear them talk they always talk about the numbers, right,

1187
00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:39,480
Speaker 1: we trust our teammates. You look at Minnesota, you look

1188
00:52:39,480 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: at the Knicks. Do they have that right that have

1189
00:52:43,160 --> 00:52:45,920
Speaker 1: that on their roster where somebody off that bench or

1190
00:52:45,920 --> 00:52:49,640
Speaker 1: somebody that's not Karl Anthony Towns or a man or.

1191
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 2: Julius Rando, you know that.

1192
00:52:51,680 --> 00:52:54,080
Speaker 1: Can you know Jaylen Brynston that can come off the

1193
00:52:54,120 --> 00:52:57,800
Speaker 1: bench and be that factor the remaining the remaining of

1194
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,239
Speaker 1: the of the of that series. I don't know. I

1195
00:53:02,280 --> 00:53:04,360
Speaker 1: don't know if they have that right. And that's the

1196
00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,719
Speaker 1: biggest question. You know, we're about to be about to

1197
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:11,040
Speaker 1: find out. What do you expecting in game A Game four?

1198
00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:14,120
Speaker 1: Because the first three games have been a snooze fest.

1199
00:53:14,520 --> 00:53:18,840
Speaker 1: They haven't been close is very disappointing. I mean, forty

1200
00:53:18,840 --> 00:53:22,960
Speaker 1: two points twenty plus twenty I mean, you're like, bro,

1201
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:25,040
Speaker 1: these are these are supposed to be the two best

1202
00:53:25,040 --> 00:53:27,360
Speaker 1: teams in the Western Conference and they're losing by an

1203
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,040
Speaker 1: average of probably twenty points a game.

1204
00:53:29,280 --> 00:53:30,359
Speaker 2: That's not good.

1205
00:53:31,480 --> 00:53:36,080
Speaker 1: Again, I'm not even I love the offensive floor of things, right.

1206
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:38,799
Speaker 2: I think offensive the high numbers is good.

1207
00:53:38,840 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: But in the playoffs, I think defensive strategy, right is

1208
00:53:42,680 --> 00:53:44,719
Speaker 1: the most important part that we should be seeing more.

1209
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:47,440
Speaker 1: To get beat by forty or thirty plus in the

1210
00:53:47,440 --> 00:53:53,000
Speaker 1: playoffs is crazy to me crazy, So you're crazy to me, bro,

1211
00:53:53,040 --> 00:53:55,719
Speaker 1: I just I can't digest that. And I'm as if

1212
00:53:55,760 --> 00:53:57,719
Speaker 1: you watch, and I'm watched as a fan, I'm like, yo,

1213
00:53:57,760 --> 00:54:02,759
Speaker 1: how does this happen? You know everything about this roster, right,

1214
00:54:02,800 --> 00:54:04,880
Speaker 1: I mean the Scotting report is immense. I mean you

1215
00:54:04,880 --> 00:54:08,520
Speaker 1: guys about you know exactly what? Yes, everything, quarter back

1216
00:54:08,560 --> 00:54:11,479
Speaker 1: hold the ball like it. It's like you what ross

1217
00:54:11,520 --> 00:54:13,319
Speaker 1: he liked to run the split, He liked to run

1218
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:16,120
Speaker 1: him from down in distant area of the field, red zone,

1219
00:54:16,200 --> 00:54:20,959
Speaker 1: backed up, middle of the field, whole normation everything Trip said,

1220
00:54:21,760 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: two boy one three by one has an empty back field.

1221
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:26,560
Speaker 2: Then you know the funny thing about it?

1222
00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:30,080
Speaker 3: And then even though you have all that information that

1223
00:54:30,160 --> 00:54:32,719
Speaker 3: you need, you can have all that information you need

1224
00:54:32,760 --> 00:54:36,000
Speaker 3: and study, watch film, but you still got to execute

1225
00:54:36,000 --> 00:54:38,480
Speaker 3: it once you get out there. Absolutely, you got executed

1226
00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:40,800
Speaker 3: once you get out there. And that's why I'm hoping.

1227
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 3: How I see I see the next game going. I

1228
00:54:44,120 --> 00:54:46,520
Speaker 3: think the Wolves are probably gonna win again. But it

1229
00:54:46,560 --> 00:54:49,520
Speaker 3: has to it has it has to come from the

1230
00:54:49,680 --> 00:54:54,239
Speaker 3: exact same way it did the first time it all started.

1231
00:54:54,400 --> 00:54:56,600
Speaker 2: It win nobody there right away.

1232
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,640
Speaker 3: You got to be aggressive because if you lose his

1233
00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,240
Speaker 3: next game, you go down three one, you're.

1234
00:55:01,080 --> 00:55:04,160
Speaker 1: Going home when you go back to Yeah, I think

1235
00:55:04,200 --> 00:55:06,239
Speaker 1: it was one hundred percent. It's a must win for

1236
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:11,880
Speaker 1: both Minnesota and Indiana. Right, Wow, it's a must win, bro.

1237
00:55:11,960 --> 00:55:13,600
Speaker 1: I think you know, you put too much at risk

1238
00:55:14,080 --> 00:55:16,040
Speaker 1: if you don't win those games. And as I was,

1239
00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:18,759
Speaker 1: done impossible. You're not about to Minnesota, not about to

1240
00:55:18,760 --> 00:55:20,920
Speaker 1: go to OKC and win down three winning or even

1241
00:55:20,960 --> 00:55:21,640
Speaker 1: win the series.

1242
00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:25,360
Speaker 2: But you know, it's it's interesting to see, you know

1243
00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:26,000
Speaker 2: what's having.

1244
00:55:26,040 --> 00:55:29,760
Speaker 1: I like games like tonight whereas it's it's the score

1245
00:55:29,800 --> 00:55:33,000
Speaker 1: is tight, energy is you know, everybody sitting on the edge.

1246
00:55:33,960 --> 00:55:37,960
Speaker 1: Nobody want to see a game where the damn commentators

1247
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,000
Speaker 1: got to make up stuff to talk about in the

1248
00:55:40,040 --> 00:55:40,720
Speaker 1: third quarter.

1249
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:43,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's great.

1250
00:55:43,120 --> 00:55:45,600
Speaker 1: Talking about Yeah, they talk about when they played way

1251
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:49,120
Speaker 1: back when. Now the focus on this game, right, But

1252
00:55:49,360 --> 00:55:51,200
Speaker 1: I mean, you got that, and sometimes that's you got.

1253
00:55:51,200 --> 00:55:54,239
Speaker 1: That's why, that's why you got to be great at storytelling,

1254
00:55:54,640 --> 00:55:57,040
Speaker 1: because every game is not gonna be niptok, And then

1255
00:55:57,120 --> 00:55:59,200
Speaker 1: you gotta find ways to try to keep the fans

1256
00:55:59,320 --> 00:56:10,480
Speaker 1: entertained the best you possibly can. After the Lakers got bounced,

1257
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:13,480
Speaker 1: JJ Reddick emphasized that the team needed to be in

1258
00:56:13,600 --> 00:56:16,919
Speaker 1: championship shape shape. While he didn't mention your names, many

1259
00:56:16,960 --> 00:56:19,319
Speaker 1: took the comments of the clear message to Luca. Well

1260
00:56:19,360 --> 00:56:24,479
Speaker 1: weeks later, Luca made a significant public appearance. UH Luca

1261
00:56:24,560 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: made his first significant public appearance by attending Real Madrid's

1262
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 1: basketball game and posted these on I G.

1263
00:56:32,480 --> 00:56:37,200
Speaker 2: You think that's Ai? Yeah, that's what. There's no way

1264
00:56:37,280 --> 00:56:39,040
Speaker 2: hell if he lost that week that fast? And why

1265
00:56:39,040 --> 00:56:40,960
Speaker 2: the hell he ain't doing it during the season. Hey,

1266
00:56:41,000 --> 00:56:43,480
Speaker 2: that that's it. That's what I'm ay. Don't I don't

1267
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:45,200
Speaker 2: care what he looks like right now. I'm talking about

1268
00:56:45,200 --> 00:56:46,759
Speaker 2: when he come back to play. That would he looked

1269
00:56:46,760 --> 00:56:47,919
Speaker 2: like this when he come back to play?

1270
00:56:48,160 --> 00:56:48,359
Speaker 1: Hey?

1271
00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 2: Held on? Hey, hey do you think he uncle jail?

1272
00:56:50,920 --> 00:56:53,920
Speaker 2: You think he took that Olympic Olympic?

1273
00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:56,359
Speaker 1: Nah?

1274
00:56:56,560 --> 00:56:58,719
Speaker 2: Nah, he ain't. No, No, I don't the UK. I

1275
00:56:58,719 --> 00:57:00,600
Speaker 2: don't think you can take that there then be a player.

1276
00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:02,360
Speaker 2: I have a question. Okay, you can't take that as

1277
00:57:02,360 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 2: an NBA player? Right? How many weeks they've been out

1278
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,400
Speaker 2: they've been out of season? What three? Two? If that

1279
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:10,719
Speaker 2: ain't been that damn long for him to look like

1280
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:12,520
Speaker 2: it ain't been that long for you to lose all

1281
00:57:12,560 --> 00:57:16,440
Speaker 2: that weight like that. He probably took that Olympic stuff.

1282
00:57:16,440 --> 00:57:18,200
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, man, you know it's crazy.

1283
00:57:18,240 --> 00:57:20,240
Speaker 1: Like I've watched him, Like when you watch him play

1284
00:57:20,240 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: with his national team, he always looks thinner.

1285
00:57:24,400 --> 00:57:24,800
Speaker 2: He does.

1286
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,440
Speaker 1: Then he comes back to the United States and it's

1287
00:57:28,480 --> 00:57:33,120
Speaker 1: like he's eating East rolls and postive. But the American food.

1288
00:57:33,200 --> 00:57:35,240
Speaker 1: I mean, you look at Europeans, they're not as big

1289
00:57:35,240 --> 00:57:37,600
Speaker 1: as Americans. It's up about the food.

1290
00:57:37,920 --> 00:57:40,040
Speaker 2: Hell eating a lot of I mean you do.

1291
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:42,200
Speaker 1: I mean if you go, if you go to Europe,

1292
00:57:42,280 --> 00:57:44,680
Speaker 1: you're not gonna see as many and you.

1293
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:47,200
Speaker 2: Know people that that's a little heavier.

1294
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:51,360
Speaker 1: You don't see a whole bunch of them.

1295
00:57:51,480 --> 00:57:53,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, so he's doing something. I don't know if it's

1296
00:57:53,720 --> 00:57:57,600
Speaker 2: now jail. You know this. Their bodies are gonna be

1297
00:57:57,640 --> 00:57:58,120
Speaker 2: their bodies.

1298
00:57:58,120 --> 00:58:01,560
Speaker 1: They're not gonna be sculpted, gonna have albs, They're not

1299
00:58:01,560 --> 00:58:04,160
Speaker 1: gonna have caps on their shoulders, They're not gonna have

1300
00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 1: that much. They all look alike. I've never seen a

1301
00:58:06,640 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: European player with muscles. You look at Yokic, you look

1302
00:58:09,760 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 1: at Luca, you look at Manu, you look at Zubos.

1303
00:58:13,800 --> 00:58:16,800
Speaker 1: You look at any international player, tell me the one Sabonas,

1304
00:58:16,920 --> 00:58:20,040
Speaker 1: tell me the one you say, Okay, caps on the shoulder,

1305
00:58:20,400 --> 00:58:21,440
Speaker 1: ripped up calves.

1306
00:58:22,320 --> 00:58:23,640
Speaker 2: They just that's how they look.

1307
00:58:23,760 --> 00:58:27,200
Speaker 1: It's only one that's Gianna's that I think is is Yeah,

1308
00:58:29,120 --> 00:58:32,800
Speaker 1: Johanna's got that Nigerian base. They're the difference. Uh, you know,

1309
00:58:32,960 --> 00:58:37,400
Speaker 1: my basis is based and it's not chiding. So he

1310
00:58:37,800 --> 00:58:42,760
Speaker 1: comes from the foundation that stock. It's a little different

1311
00:58:42,800 --> 00:58:48,080
Speaker 1: than what uh the Europeans with y'all Luca and jokicch

1312
00:58:48,120 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: and Manu and all those guys came out of But

1313
00:58:50,560 --> 00:58:52,480
Speaker 1: he looks good. But like I said, I don't worry

1314
00:58:52,480 --> 00:58:53,880
Speaker 1: about the guy right now, and he ain't got to

1315
00:58:53,880 --> 00:58:55,920
Speaker 1: play for another four five months. I want to see

1316
00:58:56,000 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: him look like that when he comes back. It's strange

1317
00:58:58,680 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 1: that he would say that. And now if it wasn't

1318
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:04,680
Speaker 1: a lot of truth to everything we heard coming out

1319
00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:08,360
Speaker 1: of Dallas. Yeah, and you know when you look at him,

1320
00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,680
Speaker 1: you got Kinesio tape everywhere.

1321
00:59:10,760 --> 00:59:12,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Like he's not.

1322
00:59:12,960 --> 00:59:15,160
Speaker 1: At twenty five, and I mean not at twenty You

1323
00:59:15,200 --> 00:59:18,360
Speaker 1: should have Cannisio tape. You should be hey put together

1324
00:59:18,480 --> 00:59:20,960
Speaker 1: like hey like that like my grub, my coffee table.

1325
00:59:20,960 --> 00:59:23,440
Speaker 2: When we're growing up. You shouldn't look like that, you

1326
00:59:23,480 --> 00:59:25,120
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. We had that black electric tape

1327
00:59:25,160 --> 00:59:28,760
Speaker 2: holding up everything. You know what I'm saying.

1328
00:59:28,800 --> 00:59:31,240
Speaker 1: He had Cannisio tape at twenty three, twenty four, he's

1329
00:59:31,280 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 1: twenty six. Now I'm like, bro, why you need all

1330
00:59:34,320 --> 00:59:36,400
Speaker 1: that to hold you together? But you remember now he

1331
00:59:36,440 --> 00:59:41,080
Speaker 1: missed ninety one ninety two games the last two seasons. Yeah, right,

1332
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,360
Speaker 1: He's missed a lot of games at an early age.

1333
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,800
Speaker 1: And you know it clearly, it's something behind. When you

1334
00:59:46,920 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: let a talent like that leave at twenty five years old,

1335
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:52,400
Speaker 1: it's a hell of a lot of things got to

1336
00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: be happening behind the scenes, you know, to say, you

1337
00:59:54,680 --> 00:59:57,280
Speaker 1: know what, we're not even going after draft picks.

1338
00:59:57,520 --> 00:59:59,040
Speaker 2: You know we're not. We just want to go get

1339
00:59:59,080 --> 01:00:00,520
Speaker 2: you know, get get one player.

1340
01:00:00,520 --> 01:00:03,080
Speaker 1: That basically a one for one, one for one and

1341
01:00:03,160 --> 01:00:05,160
Speaker 1: we and we ain't gonna have no more conversation. So

1342
01:00:05,200 --> 01:00:08,120
Speaker 1: that that said a lot. But you can see what

1343
01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,000
Speaker 1: Dallas trying to go with it. It's a risk. He

1344
01:00:11,080 --> 01:00:13,680
Speaker 1: got him number one pick this year. We'll see how

1345
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,040
Speaker 1: that turns out, you know, with the rest of the bigs.

1346
01:00:16,200 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: I do believe that they're gonna have to probably move

1347
01:00:18,280 --> 01:00:20,840
Speaker 1: some other some some pieces to bring on another piece.

1348
01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: So you're not gonna have Kyrie to start. Hell, he

1349
01:00:22,800 --> 01:00:24,240
Speaker 1: probably want to have Kyrie the first half of the

1350
01:00:24,240 --> 01:00:27,160
Speaker 1: season next year exactly. I don't think Kyrie coming back

1351
01:00:27,200 --> 01:00:30,000
Speaker 1: to in January. Well, you know, he do a lot

1352
01:00:30,000 --> 01:00:31,600
Speaker 1: of He do a lot of meditating and a lot

1353
01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,720
Speaker 1: of you know. Yeah, I mean if you on him,

1354
01:00:34,720 --> 01:00:36,520
Speaker 1: he got a torn a cl and it's not like

1355
01:00:36,560 --> 01:00:38,200
Speaker 1: it's a big man that you got to get up

1356
01:00:38,240 --> 01:00:41,960
Speaker 1: and down. Kyrie is stan framed. Uh, I mean theoretically

1357
01:00:41,960 --> 01:00:43,959
Speaker 1: he could. I mean it could be seven months because

1358
01:00:44,160 --> 01:00:48,960
Speaker 1: when he teared that he towards me in what late March, Yeah,

1359
01:00:49,080 --> 01:00:53,919
Speaker 1: some April, May, June, July, August, September, October, November, December. Yeah,

1360
01:00:54,120 --> 01:00:57,080
Speaker 1: I see him probably coming back late December, by the

1361
01:00:57,080 --> 01:01:00,760
Speaker 1: early early January jail. Yeah, he hadn't been but and

1362
01:01:00,960 --> 01:01:03,160
Speaker 1: you think about it, he hadn't been a player that

1363
01:01:03,160 --> 01:01:06,160
Speaker 1: will rush back anyway. Nope, right in his career. So

1364
01:01:06,200 --> 01:01:08,880
Speaker 1: he's gonna make sure he's ready to go. But again,

1365
01:01:08,920 --> 01:01:10,880
Speaker 1: when he's right, he's one of the best part.

1366
01:01:11,080 --> 01:01:13,400
Speaker 2: He's spectacular. What do you think the Lakers need to do?

1367
01:01:13,480 --> 01:01:16,320
Speaker 1: What if they're big, If there's somebody you think the

1368
01:01:16,400 --> 01:01:19,280
Speaker 1: Lakers can get or should get in order to give

1369
01:01:19,320 --> 01:01:22,440
Speaker 1: them a great opportunity to compete for title because at

1370
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:25,360
Speaker 1: this point in time, I mean, that's all Lebron is

1371
01:01:25,360 --> 01:01:30,280
Speaker 1: really playing for. Here's here's my question is can the

1372
01:01:30,360 --> 01:01:36,000
Speaker 1: Lakers be the Lakers with Lebron having the ball in

1373
01:01:36,080 --> 01:01:37,560
Speaker 1: his hand at a lesser level?

1374
01:01:38,760 --> 01:01:40,200
Speaker 2: Right? Can you know, and even with.

1375
01:01:40,240 --> 01:01:45,080
Speaker 1: Jokic, I mean you, I mean with Luca, Yeah, can

1376
01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:47,560
Speaker 1: you have a third person that can take some of

1377
01:01:47,560 --> 01:01:49,560
Speaker 1: the pressure off of those two?

1378
01:01:49,960 --> 01:01:50,120
Speaker 2: Right?

1379
01:01:50,160 --> 01:01:52,440
Speaker 1: Because the thing the problem is when those two have

1380
01:01:52,520 --> 01:01:54,360
Speaker 1: the ball in the hand the majority of the time,

1381
01:01:54,360 --> 01:01:57,440
Speaker 1: and Lebron is a different monster. You know, he can

1382
01:01:57,480 --> 01:02:02,400
Speaker 1: make things happen, get downhill, the ball does stop, and

1383
01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:05,160
Speaker 1: so can you have somebody else that make life easier

1384
01:02:05,200 --> 01:02:06,200
Speaker 1: for those two?

1385
01:02:06,360 --> 01:02:06,520
Speaker 2: Right?

1386
01:02:06,560 --> 01:02:08,600
Speaker 1: Because Lebron is forty plus years old, right, He's not

1387
01:02:08,640 --> 01:02:10,360
Speaker 1: gonna be there. He's not gonna be to carry the

1388
01:02:10,400 --> 01:02:13,120
Speaker 1: load like he's typically carried that, even though he can

1389
01:02:13,160 --> 01:02:15,520
Speaker 1: still go for you know, thirty or forty. But you're

1390
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:17,520
Speaker 1: gonna need You're gonna need a third person that can

1391
01:02:17,560 --> 01:02:20,160
Speaker 1: really make things easier. And I'm not sure how they

1392
01:02:20,200 --> 01:02:23,800
Speaker 1: do it with the cap issues that they have, but

1393
01:02:23,840 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: we'll see.

1394
01:02:24,320 --> 01:02:26,440
Speaker 2: But I don't think they have enough right now.

1395
01:02:26,440 --> 01:02:30,800
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be seven eighth, ninth playing you

1396
01:02:30,840 --> 01:02:33,720
Speaker 1: know type of deal if they don't make a move. Oh,

1397
01:02:33,760 --> 01:02:35,400
Speaker 1: they got to make a move. I think the thing is,

1398
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:37,680
Speaker 1: first of all, this is what we know. Lebron is

1399
01:02:37,720 --> 01:02:40,480
Speaker 1: better without the ball than Luca. Luca cannot play off

1400
01:02:40,480 --> 01:02:42,600
Speaker 1: the ball. Lebron can play off the ball because you're

1401
01:02:42,640 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 1: not putting Luca in the dunker spot. You're not gonna do.

1402
01:02:46,040 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: There are certain things you're not gonna do. And prior

1403
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: to this playoffs offst Reeves with that guy. That gave

1404
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:53,600
Speaker 1: him a break because we saw Austin Reeves go get

1405
01:02:53,640 --> 01:02:57,400
Speaker 1: forty against Indiana and without Luca and Lebron. So I

1406
01:02:57,400 --> 01:02:59,480
Speaker 1: don't know what happened. Now the report saw that he

1407
01:02:59,520 --> 01:03:01,520
Speaker 1: had an end. He got nicked at some point in

1408
01:03:01,520 --> 01:03:03,400
Speaker 1: time late in the season or maybe got nicked in

1409
01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,760
Speaker 1: that playoff series, and he wasn't as as impactful as

1410
01:03:06,760 --> 01:03:09,800
Speaker 1: he needed to beat. I thought they had an opportunity

1411
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,280
Speaker 1: in game What was that was that game three. Yeah,

1412
01:03:13,360 --> 01:03:16,480
Speaker 1: Game three, but he ended up playing Lebron then forty

1413
01:03:16,520 --> 01:03:18,439
Speaker 1: six minutes and he just wore them out. You got

1414
01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:20,920
Speaker 1: to get bro, you played first of all, Lebron had

1415
01:03:20,920 --> 01:03:23,880
Speaker 1: already played like forty one minutes in game two, and

1416
01:03:23,880 --> 01:03:27,200
Speaker 1: then you turn around in burning forty six in game three.

1417
01:03:27,520 --> 01:03:29,760
Speaker 1: You got Look, I don't care what forty year old

1418
01:03:30,080 --> 01:03:32,480
Speaker 1: he cannot. Yeah, there had been a forty year old

1419
01:03:32,520 --> 01:03:35,439
Speaker 1: creator that can play for in a playoff game after

1420
01:03:35,440 --> 01:03:38,040
Speaker 1: coming off for forty one minute. But that's what that's

1421
01:03:38,080 --> 01:03:41,240
Speaker 1: so Phoenix had that idea, that third person bring being

1422
01:03:41,400 --> 01:03:44,840
Speaker 1: Bradley Bill. Obviously Bradley Bill hadn't been healthy, but I'm

1423
01:03:44,840 --> 01:03:48,600
Speaker 1: talking about an impact player, you know, coming in and

1424
01:03:49,120 --> 01:03:51,640
Speaker 1: supposedly having that that level of impact on the team

1425
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,160
Speaker 1: where those guys you know, helped maybe Brian be able

1426
01:03:54,200 --> 01:03:57,080
Speaker 1: to take a couple one nights off, right, Yeah, and impactful.

1427
01:03:57,280 --> 01:03:59,520
Speaker 1: I just think, you know, right now, it's only downhill

1428
01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,920
Speaker 1: now because Ebron is putting up so many significant numbers

1429
01:04:03,080 --> 01:04:06,840
Speaker 1: from respective of just scoring him to score assists, rebounds,

1430
01:04:06,880 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 1: set the table, to turn the bus on, you know,

1431
01:04:10,480 --> 01:04:11,080
Speaker 1: seed the kids.

1432
01:04:11,080 --> 01:04:13,280
Speaker 2: It's still twenty yeah, he's still twenty four eight and eight.

1433
01:04:13,320 --> 01:04:16,320
Speaker 1: But the problem is they need a big Yeah, because

1434
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,400
Speaker 1: you can't start Rudy at the five and Lebroad at

1435
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: the four or brought at the five and Rudy at

1436
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,720
Speaker 1: the four, because you see Rudy Gobert look like Shaq

1437
01:04:24,080 --> 01:04:25,160
Speaker 1: twenty seven and twenty four.

1438
01:04:25,320 --> 01:04:28,960
Speaker 2: You can't. They're just too small. Jackson Hayes, you can.

1439
01:04:29,240 --> 01:04:32,320
Speaker 1: I mean, for whatever reason, JJ's like, hell, the hell

1440
01:04:32,360 --> 01:04:34,600
Speaker 1: with it, Jackson, We're not gonna even play you in

1441
01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,840
Speaker 1: game five. And he only played marginal minutes in game four.

1442
01:04:38,560 --> 01:04:41,000
Speaker 1: So with that being said, I thought the Mark Williams.

1443
01:04:41,000 --> 01:04:44,000
Speaker 1: I don't know why they nullified the trade, but I

1444
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:45,560
Speaker 1: thought he would have been a big addition for the

1445
01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,160
Speaker 1: jail because they need a big Luca leaves a law threat.

1446
01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:51,680
Speaker 1: If you go back and look study Luca, look at Luca.

1447
01:04:51,800 --> 01:04:53,520
Speaker 1: He's his best when he has a law of threat.

1448
01:04:53,600 --> 01:04:54,640
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1449
01:04:54,880 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you right now, man, Like I

1450
01:04:56,440 --> 01:04:58,960
Speaker 1: don't know, I don't know why the NBA is getting

1451
01:04:59,000 --> 01:04:59,960
Speaker 1: away from the veterans.

1452
01:05:01,680 --> 01:05:04,120
Speaker 2: You got a guy like I use Dwight Howard.

1453
01:05:04,240 --> 01:05:06,920
Speaker 1: You always seem to be in shape, you know, for

1454
01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,160
Speaker 1: a guy to get rebounds, block shots and defend them

1455
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: and he did a better job against Rudy Gobert and

1456
01:05:11,880 --> 01:05:16,000
Speaker 1: Jackson Hayes or anybody else did right. A bigger body, too,

1457
01:05:16,400 --> 01:05:19,320
Speaker 1: bigger body, right, And he's and he's a savvy veteran.

1458
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,360
Speaker 1: He's been one one of the best defenders you know,

1459
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:23,320
Speaker 1: all the time to come down to protecting that room

1460
01:05:23,400 --> 01:05:28,120
Speaker 1: and and rebound the basketball. But you know, again, most

1461
01:05:28,160 --> 01:05:30,040
Speaker 1: teams don't seem to want to go get better in players.

1462
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:33,200
Speaker 1: And they don't I'm not sure, you know, the NBA

1463
01:05:33,240 --> 01:05:34,760
Speaker 1: needs to needs to put in a rule right now

1464
01:05:34,800 --> 01:05:37,400
Speaker 1: because if you want the product. When you talk about

1465
01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:40,480
Speaker 1: the issues with people watching the NBA and and you know,

1466
01:05:40,760 --> 01:05:44,400
Speaker 1: and and the you know, ratings going down, it's because

1467
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:46,120
Speaker 1: you got the young lead and the young.

1468
01:05:47,640 --> 01:05:49,360
Speaker 2: So you don't have you know, you don't you don't

1469
01:05:49,360 --> 01:05:49,880
Speaker 2: even have to have.

1470
01:05:50,080 --> 01:05:52,560
Speaker 1: You can take a role of a player coach role,

1471
01:05:52,720 --> 01:05:55,120
Speaker 1: right and take that off off the cat. You know,

1472
01:05:55,440 --> 01:05:57,360
Speaker 1: the NBA can do anything right if you get the union,

1473
01:05:57,360 --> 01:06:01,240
Speaker 1: they can make it work people in place that helps develop,

1474
01:06:01,440 --> 01:06:03,920
Speaker 1: you know, and you got you look at Jackson Hayes

1475
01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:05,960
Speaker 1: and they had another they signed another.

1476
01:06:05,840 --> 01:06:07,919
Speaker 2: Uh Alex lenn Alex Lynn.

1477
01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:14,400
Speaker 1: Right, Yes, he should be the he should be the

1478
01:06:14,440 --> 01:06:17,600
Speaker 1: tallest high school or college coach next year. But that's

1479
01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:19,720
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. If you have

1480
01:06:20,000 --> 01:06:21,880
Speaker 1: they just call it the white Houard. Let's use him

1481
01:06:21,880 --> 01:06:24,960
Speaker 1: for example. Right, Yes, you have somebody in there mentoring

1482
01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:28,280
Speaker 1: this these these young boys and and and getting them

1483
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,720
Speaker 1: and helping them understand the importance of everything they do

1484
01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,640
Speaker 1: or support. Then you in a better situation. Are you

1485
01:06:35,720 --> 01:06:37,880
Speaker 1: not saying you gotta go pay him five million dollars?

1486
01:06:38,400 --> 01:06:40,680
Speaker 1: But just you know, just don't, don't don't put a

1487
01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,200
Speaker 1: veteran on on on on uh, keep him off the

1488
01:06:44,200 --> 01:06:45,840
Speaker 1: team because you have to pay him a little bit

1489
01:06:45,880 --> 01:06:47,120
Speaker 1: more because he's a veteran.

1490
01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:51,240
Speaker 2: Right, this creator role or Javel McGee, Javeal McGee was available,

1491
01:06:51,480 --> 01:06:52,760
Speaker 2: That's what I'm saying. But why not?

1492
01:06:53,680 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 3: I mean, so, so is the NBA doing similar to

1493
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:59,600
Speaker 3: what the NFL is doing? Also on Yeah, they really

1494
01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 3: going they be going young and doing away with all

1495
01:07:02,840 --> 01:07:06,840
Speaker 3: the veterans outside of quarterback, a specific quarterback that is

1496
01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:08,960
Speaker 3: still getting opportunity to play regards of age.

1497
01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:11,479
Speaker 2: But like the NFL, the NFL, a NBA.

1498
01:07:11,640 --> 01:07:13,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, because you know, the minimum oh over a certain

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Speaker 1: number of years is a million dollars. Well, I can

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Speaker 1: get a guy right out of college or first you're

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Speaker 1: a guy and paying three hundred four hundred thousand, right

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Speaker 1: save six what's but what's six hundred thousand when you

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01:07:22,560 --> 01:07:24,920
Speaker 1: bring when you get when you're making three hundred million.

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Speaker 2: Right, I don't get that. Well, I guess.

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Speaker 1: But the question in basketball, I mean is you know,

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Speaker 1: do you do you really want to win?

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Speaker 2: I mean doesn't matter. I mean, you know, most of

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Speaker 2: most of them.

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Speaker 1: You know, you Basketball's not like football where you have

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Speaker 1: historical you know, families that's involved with these teams, right,

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Speaker 1: Basketball is not that, right Baskett. The fact the majority

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Speaker 1: of the NBA now is new ownership, right, and so

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Speaker 1: from perspective, you know, what is it that? What is

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Speaker 1: the real purpose? Right is it? You know, invest in

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Speaker 1: to you know, investing to a team, let the value grow,

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Speaker 1: then sometime not sell it, get.

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Speaker 2: Up off it. That's yeah, because that's that's the difference.

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Speaker 1: Because if you look at the NFL, a lot of

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01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:07,800
Speaker 1: these a lot of these owners now some of these

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01:08:07,800 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 1: owners now have other things. But for the longest time,

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Speaker 1: uh j O and o Jo, these were family runs business.

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Speaker 2: These were Marlin pop shops. That's all they had.

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Speaker 1: Now you look at guys teams, people that buy teams, now,

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01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:23,920
Speaker 1: that's not their number one business.

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01:08:23,920 --> 01:08:25,639
Speaker 2: That team is not their number one business.

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Speaker 1: The altisans that just bought the Dallas Mavericks, they're gambling,

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Speaker 1: that's their number one business. You look at the guy

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Speaker 1: that bought the Sacramento Kings. You look at Steve Barmer

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Speaker 1: who bought the Clippers. That was not his number one business.

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Speaker 1: Now that's what he does now. But he's worth a

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Speaker 1: one hundred billion, so he spent two. So that's not

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Speaker 1: what it is. Not like the NFL is not like

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Speaker 1: the Hunts. Now, the Hunts have other things, but it's

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Speaker 1: a family. But for the most part, NBA is a lot.

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Speaker 1: Now they're not family. The young these tech guys, these

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Speaker 1: guys that made money invested in Silicon Valley and things

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Speaker 1: like that, they're the one that's buying the team. They're

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Speaker 1: not like, I don't know, I'm trying to think who's

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Speaker 1: the oldest. So you're not gonna find somebody like the

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Speaker 1: like the like uh, the mcclaskeys, the own the Bears.

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Speaker 1: Her dad, Virginia mccasty, she just passed away. Her dad,

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Speaker 1: George Allis founded the Bears passed it down. You ain't

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Speaker 1: gonna find that in the NBA. You're not gonna find

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Speaker 1: the ruonies like the Steelers on since nineteen thirty three.

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01:09:27,240 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: I don't find that, like the Marrows, the Giant. When

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Speaker 1: did Dolan by the Kniggs? What was the next down

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Speaker 1: to him? No, he had I think no, I think

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Speaker 1: he had his dad that Yeah, that's what they He

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Speaker 1: made the only one.

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Speaker 2: But he might yeah he might be No, what do

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Speaker 2: you call him, Jemmie Buss her dad.

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Speaker 1: Seventy I think he brought the team in seventy nine,

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01:09:48,760 --> 01:09:50,040
Speaker 1: so he might be the longest thing.

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Speaker 2: That was the dad, right, Yeah, they passed it down

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Speaker 2: there here the brown Shoes, huh.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but when you know Jimmy had uh yeah, no Bengals,

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01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:05,560
Speaker 1: Mike Brown. It got passed down to his dad. You

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01:10:05,680 --> 01:10:08,400
Speaker 1: might earth say he took them from his for his dad.

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01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:11,840
Speaker 1: So they just passed past it down. Now these these

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Speaker 1: tech people coming in there with four five, six billion.

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Speaker 2: Dollars and it's it's it's gone.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you know, the Waltons just you know, brought the Broncos.

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Speaker 1: I mean he's worth a hundred billion. What's what's a

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Speaker 1: hundred what's what's four billion?

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Speaker 2: Hire?

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Speaker 1: We just saw Josh Harris, he just bought he just

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Speaker 1: purchased the Commanders last year over six what six and

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Speaker 1: a half billion?

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Speaker 2: He also owned the seventy sixers.

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Speaker 1: So it's not it's it's different, it's it's a different

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Speaker 1: time now. But I agree with you, Jail, I think

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Speaker 1: they should have a advance on the team to help

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Speaker 1: these young guys understand and navigate their way through uh.

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Speaker 1: I think that I think they're doing a better job

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01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:55,719
Speaker 1: the pa of both pas of having guys understand money.

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Speaker 2: Like, Bro, you're not a doctor, you're not a lawyer.

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Speaker 1: You're not gonna have a twenty year career, right The

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Speaker 1: average year, the average career is about three and a

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Speaker 1: half years.

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Speaker 2: Three and a half. So even when you.

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Speaker 1: Factor in Tom Brady that played twenty three, and in

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Speaker 1: factor Peyton Manning that played eighteen nineteen and Drew Brees

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01:11:11,960 --> 01:11:15,360
Speaker 1: and Rogers and all these guys, a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: just playing one year, a lot of guys not even

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Speaker 1: playing at all. So it comes whittle is whittle it

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Speaker 1: down to three and a half years. Bro, you're gonna

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01:11:24,400 --> 01:11:28,960
Speaker 1: be twenty five, and that's the job that you're probably

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01:11:29,000 --> 01:11:32,360
Speaker 1: gonna have for the next twenty years. It's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be in the NBA, the MLB, or you know, whatever

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01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:39,040
Speaker 1: the case may be, whatever the profession you're starting in,

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01:11:39,320 --> 01:11:41,519
Speaker 1: there's a good chance by the time you're twenty five,

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01:11:42,560 --> 01:11:44,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna have another job, and it's not gonna be

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Speaker 1: a professional athlete.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think too, man.

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Speaker 1: You know, the full law is obviously significantly different in basketball,

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Speaker 1: right You guys draft for exact need, yes, and every

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Speaker 1: pick is a value pick, right YEA. Sometimes right now

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01:11:57,720 --> 01:12:01,200
Speaker 1: in basketball, you know they're drafting, you know, best available,

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Speaker 1: even though you might have you might drop the point

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Speaker 1: guard and you got three already on the roster, and

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Speaker 1: so you know, I think that's the difference in basketball,

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Speaker 1: where you know, when you talk about those two or

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Speaker 1: three years or four years, it's it's a changing of

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Speaker 1: the guard happening in the NBA because you don't you

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Speaker 1: don't get.

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Speaker 2: A lot of time.

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Speaker 1: And if they send your ass down to the G

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01:12:19,160 --> 01:12:21,519
Speaker 1: League and you a lottery pick, got already telling you where.

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Speaker 2: You at and what are you thinking about

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Speaker 3: The volume