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Speaker 4: Oh wow, Yeah on today's podcast, and we got tweeted

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Speaker 4: the night. But let's start by looking back at some

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Speaker 4: of last night's games with a little what you got?

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Speaker 4: get into it. First, one, guys, more impressive win from

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Speaker 4: Wednesday night the Nets snapping the Raptors wind streak or

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Speaker 4: the Pacers defeating the mighty Milwaukee Bucks. What you Got?

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Speaker 1: This is a tough one, isn't it? Because the Milwaukee

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Speaker 1: Bucks were clearly shorthanded without Yanna's Yes, but the Indiana

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Speaker 1: Pacers desperately needed to win, and they needed all forty

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Speaker 1: Bucks did not give up to the end. So I'm

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Speaker 1: going with that game. I'm going with the Indiana Paces

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Speaker 1: because they had a huge lead, and we've talked about

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Speaker 1: the recent struggles. They'd lost five and a six in

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Speaker 1: Nearly couldn't nearly blew it. I mean, the Bucks got

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Speaker 1: thought was very very good for the Paces. Down the

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Speaker 1: This was a very very important win for them going

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Speaker 1: So I'm choosing the Paces, even though your boys went down.

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Speaker 3: I agree it was the Pacers because they have been

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Speaker 3: blowing game after game after game. Literally all six games

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Speaker 3: I think are coming along. They looked really good for

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 3: It was just one team had a little bit more

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Speaker 3: won a game. I don't care. There was this dumb

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Speaker 3: And I still believe that dumb guy is rightet that, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: that's a great tweet that two seven that matchup if

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Speaker 3: the Raps stay in the two spot, which it trure

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Speaker 3: seems like they will. I actually saw Leellis talk about

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Speaker 4: There's I don't I would not buy any beings locked

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Celtics are hot, but don't you think

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Speaker 3: that by far and away, the Raptors are a far

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Speaker 3: better team than the Brooklyn Nets. And it was just,

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Speaker 3: it was just it was just one dudu, you.

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Speaker 4: Know, Lowry was said after game, after the loss. We

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Speaker 4: were walking zombies, is what I said. We didn't play

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Speaker 4: well tonight, and as simple as that. We misshots, we

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Speaker 4: they played their butts off and the Nets did play well.

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Speaker 4: It was ugly at times, but I do think you're right.

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Speaker 4: Task the Raptors a lot of times throughout that fifteen

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Speaker 4: game win streak, you know, hadn't played all that well

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Speaker 4: They tried to do that in this one. But then

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Speaker 4: this did an awesome job of like every time the

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Speaker 4: Raps like sort of made it a little interesting, got

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Speaker 4: you know, they were. There were the big brother putting

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Speaker 4: you know, they did deserve this victory. So I actually

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Speaker 4: I might go with this one. I guess maybe as

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Speaker 4: more impressive because the Nets have been playing pretty well too,

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Speaker 4: even in losses, have been playing a lot better.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm actually on the Nets side as well, just

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Speaker 2: because they didn't really get incredible performances from anybody. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: their leading scorer was Kris Lavert. He had twenty points

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Speaker 2: They held the Raptors under one hundred points for the

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Speaker 2: first time since January seventh, only ninety one for the Raps.

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Speaker 2: It's only eight times the season the Raptors have been

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Speaker 2: made it really tough on the Raptors and it just

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Speaker 2: made it so that they weren't able to really flip

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Speaker 2: the switch the way they've been doing and during this

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Nets just last weekend against the Raptors blu

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Speaker 1: and eighting point lead in Toronto, and you sort of

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Speaker 1: felt that that game almost was in their minds last night,

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Speaker 1: that they were like, we're not blowing this again to

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Speaker 1: this team because Fred hit a big shot, you know,

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Speaker 1: Pascal hit that one at the end of the third quarter,

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Speaker 1: Kyle hit big shots. So the Raptors by no means

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Speaker 1: were like, you know what, all Star weekend, let's just

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Speaker 1: mail it in. Maybe they were going for it, but

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Speaker 1: the Nets held up hild up there into the bargain

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Speaker 1: this time, so that was pretty impressive for them.

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Speaker 4: I am bummed out as a Raptors fan that the

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Speaker 4: streak is snapped right before the All Star break, because

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Speaker 4: you know, we're going to Chicago, You're going to be

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Speaker 4: around a bunch of the media, obviously a bunch of fans,

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Speaker 4: and everybody knows we are, you know, especially pass night

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Speaker 4: topic of conversation, right, Oh, how about your rafts sixteen

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Speaker 4: game win streak? Are they ever gonna lose again? Blah

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Speaker 4: blah blah blah blah. So now that's gone, so maybe

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Speaker 4: maybe it's a good thing. Now we'll just talk about

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Speaker 4: the weather instead.

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Speaker 3: Cold it is here.

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Speaker 4: It's crazy.

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Speaker 3: They just had had a bad shooting night from distance,

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Speaker 3: from two point land and from the bench to getting

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Speaker 3: only nine points from the bench while during the streak,

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Speaker 3: I think it's something like thirty five or thirty six

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Speaker 3: the winning streak is gone. It sure felt like the

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Speaker 3: Bucks snapping their eighteen game winning streak against a Lucals

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Speaker 3: Dallas Mavericks back in December. You know, no Kyrie in

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Speaker 3: a little bit. They did not have the legs that

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Speaker 4: And a few more notes about the really nice Pacers

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Speaker 4: when you know, you don't want a seven game losing

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Speaker 4: they snapped out, like you said, they're leelly. But TJ. Warren,

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Speaker 4: I mean sixteen to nineteen. I gave him blibly last night.

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Speaker 4: That's unbelievable. The defense too, yes, And I was gonna

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Speaker 4: say Pacers threw a lot of zone at times in

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Speaker 4: this game against the Bucks, and you know, seeing how

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Speaker 4: they handled it, especially without Giannis to sort of operate

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Speaker 4: shook them a little bit. You know, he's still only

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Speaker 4: finished with one hundred and eleven points. I got that,

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Speaker 4: but yeah, you gotta throw those wrinkles at them. So

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Speaker 4: good win, good win from both teams. You can throw

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Speaker 4: the Magic in there as well at the bottom of

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Speaker 4: the Eastern Conference playoffs, all three of those squads in

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Speaker 4: the Nets and the Pacers and the Magic picking up w's.

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Speaker 2: And for the Pacers. Back to Oladipo, I think shout

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Speaker 2: out to him for not trying to do too much

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Speaker 2: last night. Fewest shot attempts since he's came back, lowest

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Speaker 2: usage percentage in a game. He's been just over dribbling

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Speaker 2: and trying to overdo it, trying to be right back

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Speaker 2: to all NBA Victor Oladipo, and he just doesn't have

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Speaker 2: for him to actually turn the reins over and let TJ.

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Speaker 2: Warre and kind of takeover, I thought that was very

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Speaker 2: impressive and probably a big piece of big reason why

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Speaker 2: they got the win.

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Speaker 4: All right, next one here, this one sort of sucks

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Speaker 4: it is that groin injury. But who should replace Dame

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Lee wants to get to that three point contest.

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Speaker 1: What you got?

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Speaker 4: Who you got to replace Lillard?

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Speaker 2: I've got Devin Booker. Believe me. I was trying to

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Speaker 2: I think he should have to do every single thing

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Speaker 3: I think Day might perform, I think he is.

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Speaker 3: He said he's going to be there and I thought

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Speaker 3: his priorities in order. Like usually usually you here guys

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Speaker 3: you're going to this event. You're going to this event.

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Speaker 3: Their handlers are just pulling them, pushing them, and so

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Speaker 4: I think he is performing still. No, yeah, he's not

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Speaker 4: But I don't know he'll be like Drake when he

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Speaker 3: You're gonna push him out, push who up? What like

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Speaker 3: Damian Lillard in his wheelchair. I'm just trying to wake

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Speaker 4: Who do you? Who do you have replaced him?

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Speaker 1: Yeah? Look, John Moran has been great, but Devin Booker

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Speaker 4: I think he's helped out by Lillard last night saying, well,

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Speaker 3: You just look at it as a positive that they

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Speaker 4: The timing of it.

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Speaker 3: Is there any better timing They don't have a game

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Speaker 1: No, you're right, But he's a pretty resilient guy, doesn't

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Speaker 4: there's no one really else you can make a case for. Right,

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Speaker 1: One of the Spurs, perhaps.

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Speaker 1: But I think again, DeRozan has been very consistent putting

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean Booker at Ja Morant's numbers are really

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Speaker 3: Isn't this how Dame got into his first one? I

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Speaker 3: If you want it, you want to be a hater

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Speaker 3: Blazer's team. Yeah, they've been coming on, but they're four back.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would agree with you. It just doesn't feel

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Speaker 4: So then quickly about the three point Contest, Commissioner silver.

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Speaker 2: You'll hang up again.

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Speaker 4: also say, but we you know, part of this is

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Speaker 4: I mean Booker's gone in it before.

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Speaker 1: He's won to be writing champion, not a champion, but

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Speaker 4: Okay, that's right, Joe Harris put some respect on Joe

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Speaker 4: Harris's name. But is that a part of the combo

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Speaker 4: It does work sort of. Well, that's that he's done

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Speaker 1: He's been much better.

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Speaker 1: That certainly helps his case. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. It's also funny now thinking back to when reserves

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Speaker 1: think Lebron knows this is not an eighty two game

433
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Speaker 1: season for him. He's got, you know, probably twenty games

434
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Speaker 1: more than that to play, so he's kind of leading

435
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Speaker 1: the way. You can still get the wins. They're still

436
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Speaker 1: playing with the one three in a row, and I

437
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Speaker 1: had a very good win in overtime last night against

438
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Speaker 1: the Nuggets, and it just with Lebron out there, it

439
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Speaker 1: just feels like they still have that obvious wild Coyle

440
00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,359
Speaker 1: that no one else has. Yeah, got Lebron, Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 4: I mean it would have been really easy too, for

442
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Speaker 4: a guy in what his seventeenth year here to chill

443
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Speaker 4: in the final game before an All Star break against

444
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Speaker 4: a really good opponent in a tough barn to win.

445
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Speaker 4: You could have just gone into cruise control, no problem

446
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Speaker 4: and get ready for the All Star break. Really, and

447
00:19:32,720 --> 00:19:34,359
Speaker 4: Lebron does the opposite. And I don't know if it

448
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Speaker 4: was Monte Morris pissing him off there talking to him,

449
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Speaker 4: junk to him, but like Lebron did the opposite. He's like, no, no, no,

450
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Speaker 4: we're gonna We're going to win this game before we

451
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Speaker 4: go into the All Star break. That's wild and maybe

452
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Speaker 4: that is the I mean, he's the ultimate difference maker,

453
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Speaker 4: and that's maybe why you're leaning towards the Lakers.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know if he could have taken it

455
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Speaker 3: off though, with all those Lakers fans cheering, it was nuts. Yeah,

456
00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:56,200
Speaker 3: they've got to do a better job in Denver of

457
00:19:56,600 --> 00:19:59,520
Speaker 3: not selling tickets to Lakers fans that close. Just get

458
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Speaker 3: them out. There's so many Lakers flags around the court.

459
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Speaker 3: It was wild, and so yeah, he was awesome. I'll

460
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Speaker 3: say this was just about the Nuggets yesterday was it

461
00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:13,320
Speaker 3: was a real buzz kill for their just the way

462
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Speaker 3: they close out games. Maybe Jamal Murray just needed the

463
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Speaker 3: ball more, but it was a buzzkill for Nikola Jokic

464
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Speaker 3: just the way he was just trying to draw fowls

465
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Speaker 3: and not taking the shots and turning it over. That

466
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Speaker 3: was a buzz kill. And to me, I still take

467
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Speaker 3: the Clippers over the Lakers in for a similar vein

468
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Speaker 3: with the Nuggets. Like then, Lakers don't believe that they

469
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Speaker 3: have enough supporting cast I don't think. I think, you know,

470
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Speaker 3: they were looking hard at Marcus Morse, they were looking

471
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Speaker 3: hard at Darren Calls, and the Nuggets desperately need a

472
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Speaker 3: third guy to sort of take over Kerry Harris didn't

473
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Speaker 3: really want to be that guy yesterday either, although he

474
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Speaker 3: hit a big shot or two. I think the Clippers

475
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Speaker 3: own the Lakers. They've beaten them twice, They've beaten them

476
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Speaker 3: in the free agent market, They've beating them in the summer,

477
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Speaker 3: and I'm taking them. Yeah, the Lakers don't think it's

478
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Speaker 3: an eighty two game season, that's true. The Clippers don't either.

479
00:20:58,760 --> 00:21:01,200
Speaker 3: They've been in crazy chill, so it's hard to really

480
00:21:01,240 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 3: get behind them. But I think when they're on the floor,

481
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Speaker 3: I think they really believe that they can beat the Lakers,

482
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Speaker 3: and I'm not sure the Lakers really believe that they

483
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Speaker 3: can beat the Clippers.

484
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I want to jump ship. I want to switch

485
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Speaker 2: from Clippers to the Lakers because Lebron has been so

486
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Speaker 2: good and because the team has been so cohesive and

487
00:21:13,880 --> 00:21:16,679
Speaker 2: Davis has been as dominant as people were expecting. But

488
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Speaker 2: those two wins the Clippers have over the Lakers, it's

489
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Speaker 2: really hard to shake. You know, Kawhi. We have seen

490
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:25,240
Speaker 2: time after time, big games, big moments. The guy is

491
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Speaker 2: going to elevate his game, and he's a proven playoff performer.

492
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Speaker 2: So I don't know. The Lakers have struggled against the

493
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Speaker 2: very best teams in the league. They have smashed everybody else,

494
00:21:35,400 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: but against some of the very best teams like your Bucks,

495
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Speaker 2: the Clippers, the Sixers, the Raptors, no wins, that's tough

496
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Speaker 2: to me. So at this point I would probably still

497
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Speaker 2: pick the Clippers, but not feeling great about it.

498
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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, one thing about the Clippers, and I know

500
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Speaker 1: they've beaten the Lakers twice and mentioned that for sure,

501
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,680
Speaker 1: but with dwy and with Javelin, with Anthony Davis, the

502
00:21:53,720 --> 00:21:56,920
Speaker 1: Clippers have only got Zobots as the Senate. Now, Mars

503
00:21:57,000 --> 00:21:59,280
Speaker 1: is a big but he's not a center. I mean

504
00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:02,080
Speaker 1: surely that. Oh yeah, I might say Montrez, Yeah, I

505
00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:04,159
Speaker 1: forgot about him, but even he's only six seven. I

506
00:22:04,200 --> 00:22:05,719
Speaker 1: just feel, you know, and you saw it a bit

507
00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 1: last night against Yokich. When the Lakers really need a bucket,

508
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:11,000
Speaker 1: they can just run pick and roll with multiple options there,

509
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:13,159
Speaker 1: and that really, I think is where the Lakers are

510
00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:15,879
Speaker 1: going to have to go at the Clippers and just

511
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Speaker 1: take advantage of that height and that length that they

512
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Speaker 1: have because you can still throw the ball to Dwight

513
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Speaker 1: on those picks. I mean, if he doesn't get an

514
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Speaker 1: offensive our first, he's going to roll to the rim,

515
00:22:25,040 --> 00:22:26,840
Speaker 1: but Anthony Davis as well. I mean that there's no

516
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Speaker 1: one who can really shut him down. I don't think

517
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Speaker 1: on the Clippers. So I'm looking forward to the final

518
00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,240
Speaker 1: two games between the Lakers and the Clippers this season

519
00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:35,679
Speaker 1: just to see if it will be any different.

520
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Speaker 4: Yeah, a few notes from this particular game the Lakers

521
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:40,960
Speaker 4: and Nuggets. You know, it's funny, Tass, you said, Yo

522
00:22:41,040 --> 00:22:43,119
Speaker 4: Kich and your rate. I mean, he just had a

523
00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:47,560
Speaker 4: bad game down the stretch, just rough shots, turnovers, all that,

524
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Speaker 4: but he has proven that he's been one of the

525
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 4: best clutch players in the league, you know, like when

526
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:56,000
Speaker 4: you need a bucket, he's the best, I think, statistically

527
00:22:56,040 --> 00:22:59,240
Speaker 4: wise in terms of flipping it up there and dnking

528
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:01,119
Speaker 4: and dumping or in his little weird fade away and

529
00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:02,280
Speaker 4: gets it to go. So it was just one of

530
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Speaker 4: those weird nights, but totally true. And I saw ghost

531
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Speaker 4: Face Stiller write this. You know, this game was fun

532
00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,080
Speaker 4: because the margin was less than five points for almost

533
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Speaker 4: the entirety of the second half and overtime, which is

534
00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,080
Speaker 4: very rare in this three crazy high offense era. Just

535
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,200
Speaker 4: it's just so rare. So that made for a cool

536
00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:22,280
Speaker 4: game and environment and Dwight Howard. He had another awesome game.

537
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Speaker 4: When Dwight plays well man, the Lakers are legit. What

538
00:23:26,480 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 4: do you think about him shooting free throws like Nick

539
00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,840
Speaker 4: man Exel the way back behind the line.

540
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean it's smart of him to do that

541
00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: because he just looks more comfortable doing it. So, I mean,

542
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: we've seen other players do that in the past. Gott

543
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:40,200
Speaker 1: he pippined it away back in the day. But yeah,

544
00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:43,520
Speaker 1: maybe Lebrum needs to take that approach because he kind

545
00:23:43,560 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 1: of hit a free throw these days. He was one

546
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Speaker 1: for full last night. But yeah, dw do what's right.

547
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 2: The thing shooting a career worse from the free throw

548
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Speaker 2: line this year.

549
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Speaker 4: Dwight well a big part of this change, they think, though,

550
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:57,239
Speaker 4: because last night he goes six to twelve last night,

551
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,560
Speaker 4: and that's a massive improvement over his last ten games.

552
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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's mixed it up, still fifty, but he was

553
00:24:03,359 --> 00:24:06,960
Speaker 2: shooting thirty in the playoffs. Ye think they're gonna hack it.

554
00:24:07,040 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 2: Dwight will be back if he's on the court.

555
00:24:08,800 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 4: I agree with that, But maybe stepping back a foot

556
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 4: or two has helped so far. In one game because

557
00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:18,840
Speaker 4: he was shot, he was shooting thirty three, So why

558
00:24:18,840 --> 00:24:21,520
Speaker 4: does he go back and forth like pick one man

559
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:22,879
Speaker 4: and Lebron.

560
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Speaker 3: Lebron likes to change it up too. As we said,

561
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Speaker 3: it's a Lakers thing. I will say I love watching

562
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 3: Lakers just because I love watching sort of the rehabilitation

563
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:33,480
Speaker 3: of Anthony Davis, like his image, because he's fun to watch,

564
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Speaker 3: and defensively he is, he's been, He's the centerpiece of

565
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Speaker 3: their defense. I just love watching him, and him and

566
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Speaker 3: Lebron can really rely on each other. They know, guys

567
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Speaker 3: have to know that they have another Doug in the

568
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Speaker 3: postseason to rely on. They know they can rely on

569
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Speaker 3: each other. I'm not sure they know if they can

570
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Speaker 3: rely on anybody else. So though, Alex Crusoe's gotta be

571
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Speaker 3: on the floor turn that game around.

572
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Speaker 4: Yeah, him and Lebron there in the second quarter when

573
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Speaker 4: that was damn yes, he was huge him in this

574
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Speaker 4: crazy bald head or balding. And Avrian Bradley is on

575
00:25:02,040 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 4: like a tear right now too in terms of shooting

576
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,320
Speaker 4: the ball. So if he's knocking down those open shots

577
00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:07,040
Speaker 4: that you're gonna.

578
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Speaker 3: Get, you can't rely on that. You can rely on

579
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Speaker 3: Danny Green probably, But I just look at the other Nuggets.

580
00:25:10,520 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 3: On the Nuggets side, I don't know if you can't

581
00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:15,240
Speaker 3: rely on Jokic every single game to do it, I

582
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Speaker 3: just I just don't believe it. You the clutch numbers

583
00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,080
Speaker 3: are good. I totally agree with that, but they're also good,

584
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Speaker 3: I think because he passes up shots and he doesn't

585
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,399
Speaker 3: take those shots, and he, like Jamal Murray, has to

586
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Speaker 3: be that guy. I don't think they have enough guys

587
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Speaker 3: on that team. While the Clippers, I think Kawai can

588
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:31,440
Speaker 3: rely on Paul George, he can rely on lou Will,

589
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 3: you could probably rely on Mantres Harrald to get you baskets.

590
00:25:34,400 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 3: There's enough guys there, I think, So that's it feels different.

591
00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 3: Even though there it's odd because, as Trey said, it's

592
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:43,560
Speaker 3: hard to really get behind them because they've chilled out

593
00:25:43,600 --> 00:25:48,080
Speaker 3: the entire regular season here and going into tonight's game

594
00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,600
Speaker 3: against the Celtics, there are four back of the Lakers

595
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,800
Speaker 3: because the Lakers have taken it more seriously.

596
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Speaker 4: Let's hear from you guys. Tweet out us at no

597
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Speaker 4: dunks in cashtag, no dunks what you got when it

598
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Speaker 4: comes to Western Conference champions So you're taking the Lakers

599
00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,399
Speaker 4: or you're taking the field. I mean, can obviously include

600
00:26:05,400 --> 00:26:07,159
Speaker 4: the Clippers, could be the Rockets in there, could be

601
00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,880
Speaker 4: the Nuggets, could be the Jazz. Let's hear from you, guys. Okay,

602
00:26:09,920 --> 00:26:20,480
Speaker 4: let's get to the updown report. Scared the hell out of.

603
00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,240
Speaker 3: Just trying to wake you up. I think you're having

604
00:26:25,280 --> 00:26:30,160
Speaker 3: an emergency. I haven't heard a siren go by yet.

605
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,119
Speaker 2: I didn't know what that was.

606
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,760
Speaker 4: All right, we're in the updown report. First, one guy's

607
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Speaker 4: Harrison Barnes says he's not shaving or cutting his hair

608
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Speaker 4: until the Kings hit five hundred or the season ends.

609
00:26:41,640 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 4: ESPN's timmic Man says, Harry bow which is perfect now,

610
00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,520
Speaker 4: made the vow in mid December and looks pretty rugged

611
00:26:47,600 --> 00:26:50,320
Speaker 4: these days, which he does. You know, check a check

612
00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:52,480
Speaker 4: a recent picture of Harrison Barnes right now. The Kings

613
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Speaker 4: are currently I think they're twenty one and thirty two.

614
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Speaker 4: They did they did lose last night, twenty one and

615
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Speaker 4: thirty three. Are you up or down on barnes commitment

616
00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:04,040
Speaker 4: to the Kings.

617
00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:07,920
Speaker 1: Up on the commitment. He's not going to be shaving

618
00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:09,400
Speaker 1: or cutting his hair for the rest of the season.

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Speaker 1: They're not hitting five way, No way so good on

620
00:27:12,600 --> 00:27:16,159
Speaker 1: and he's always been a very well manicured gentleman. You know,

621
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,359
Speaker 1: he always looks looks very very nice. Sure, so I

622
00:27:19,400 --> 00:27:21,520
Speaker 1: think he's decided, you know what, I'm gonna let it,

623
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Speaker 1: let it fly a little bit here, and you know

624
00:27:23,280 --> 00:27:24,600
Speaker 1: what he's saying, he's going to you know, at the

625
00:27:24,680 --> 00:27:26,480
Speaker 1: end of the season, he's gonna cut it again. But

626
00:27:26,560 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 1: maybe you just love that look and rocket from now on. Possibly, yeah, possibly.

627
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 3: The Black Falcon's gonna let it fly. Well, he's got

628
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: some good nicknames for a guy that sort of flies

629
00:27:36,280 --> 00:27:39,200
Speaker 3: under the radar. Black Falcon, that's the best one. Harry

630
00:27:39,280 --> 00:27:44,040
Speaker 3: Bow is okays original.

631
00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,479
Speaker 4: Yeah, he's so much more of a Harry Bow than

632
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:47,200
Speaker 4: a black falcon.

633
00:27:47,320 --> 00:27:53,720
Speaker 3: Yeah, he said younger, younger Black, Harry Bow, black Falcon,

634
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:55,240
Speaker 3: Harry Bow, her both. I was trying to combine. It

635
00:27:55,280 --> 00:27:58,200
Speaker 3: didn't work. He had some huge ducks. Yeah, in his

636
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:00,919
Speaker 3: day he was flying, but not so much anymore.

637
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, twenty eight games left for the Kings. I don't

638
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 2: think they're gonna play plus twelve over the final two

639
00:28:08,240 --> 00:28:10,200
Speaker 2: and a half months of the season. But I'm looking

640
00:28:10,240 --> 00:28:12,360
Speaker 2: forward to seeing that beard. I remember when Dirk Noviski

641
00:28:12,400 --> 00:28:14,479
Speaker 2: grew a big old beard, sort of the same thing.

642
00:28:15,160 --> 00:28:18,040
Speaker 2: I'm not shaving until whatever time if we made the playoffs.

643
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 2: I forget exactly what it was, but guys that don't

644
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:21,760
Speaker 2: have beards that suddenly have beards, you gotta love it.

645
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:25,440
Speaker 2: Like Jay Skates here, they're trying to get over five hundred.

646
00:28:25,560 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 4: I said, I'm with Barnes, I'm not shaving until the

647
00:28:27,640 --> 00:28:30,320
Speaker 4: Kings are back to five hundred, until the season ends. Yeah,

648
00:28:30,400 --> 00:28:31,920
Speaker 4: Kings are not going to finish five hundred. They haven't

649
00:28:31,920 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 4: fished five hundred since going forty four and thirty eight

650
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 4: above five hundred in the five six season, which is

651
00:28:38,480 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 4: the last time they made the playoffs. It was a

652
00:28:40,200 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 4: long time ago. Yeah, and uh, you're right. That's a

653
00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 4: great Dirk example. I also immediately think of Elfred Payton

654
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 4: when he had the floppy and sort of like high

655
00:28:49,840 --> 00:28:52,680
Speaker 4: rise hairdo. He said, like that was a vowed not

656
00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:54,680
Speaker 4: to cut his hair until his team in high school.

657
00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:57,320
Speaker 4: His high school team won the state championship back in

658
00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 4: twenty eleven. That's why he had continued to rock it

659
00:29:00,000 --> 00:29:01,360
Speaker 4: and then eventually had to give it up because he

660
00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:03,000
Speaker 4: was like messing with his free throw routine and his

661
00:29:03,080 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 4: jump shots. He was like hitting it. So let's see

662
00:29:06,160 --> 00:29:08,680
Speaker 4: if it gets crazy enough with Barnes there. But good

663
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 4: timing from this little, this little nugget here with Barnes,

664
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,400
Speaker 4: because it's a little distraction with everything else going around

665
00:29:14,440 --> 00:29:18,040
Speaker 4: the Kings, with the athletics article going up yesterday, and

666
00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:21,600
Speaker 4: just like the butting of heads possibility with the front

667
00:29:21,600 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 4: office and Bloody Debauch's job maybe being in jeopardy and

668
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,720
Speaker 4: they just go read that article. There's a lot to

669
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 4: unpack from the Kings being the Kings the Kangs, I

670
00:29:31,240 --> 00:29:34,280
Speaker 4: should say, next one, last night, next forward, Bobby Portis

671
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 4: was ejected for throwing the ball at Shabaz Napier. Portos

672
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:40,800
Speaker 4: blocked Napier shot after the whistle, you know, classic Kevin

673
00:29:40,840 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 4: Garnett style yep, and Napier gave him the old sarcastic

674
00:29:44,880 --> 00:29:49,000
Speaker 4: thumbs up, like good job. So Bobby chucked the ball

675
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 4: at him. He sort of threw the ball at him.

676
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:53,520
Speaker 4: He did throw the ball at him, but it wasn't

677
00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:55,440
Speaker 4: that hard anyway. Are you up or down on Bobby

678
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,760
Speaker 4: Portis getting ejected for that?

679
00:30:00,000 --> 00:30:03,360
Speaker 2: He actually died. I mean a technical foul, sure, fine,

680
00:30:03,400 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 2: I mean whatever, give him a tech let somebody shoot

681
00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:07,080
Speaker 2: a free throw. But an injection is pretty weak. But

682
00:30:07,240 --> 00:30:11,479
Speaker 2: the call on the broadcast is hilarious. Oh we got

683
00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:15,680
Speaker 2: an injection? Is the Knicks? Like it would only happen

684
00:30:15,720 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: to the next bunch. Maybe it would, but this was stupid.

685
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,400
Speaker 1: Even a tech fil I didn't even think of tech fail.

686
00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:21,440
Speaker 4: Oh it's nothing.

687
00:30:21,720 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: Yeah, like he hits him, sure, but it's like the

688
00:30:25,400 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 1: softest little thing in the world, and you know it's

689
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:32,480
Speaker 1: the Knicks, and the Wizard's like, come on, just ca okay,

690
00:30:32,720 --> 00:30:33,520
Speaker 1: that's ridiculous.

691
00:30:33,640 --> 00:30:34,360
Speaker 4: Jass up or down?

692
00:30:35,080 --> 00:30:38,560
Speaker 3: Yeah? I'm down? And I thought initially, yeah, tech, maybe

693
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 3: he already had one tech when he tossed it. And

694
00:30:41,000 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 3: I didn't care enough to go check the play by

695
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,640
Speaker 3: play to see if he had one, because I just

696
00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,680
Speaker 3: assume there's a lot of stuff happening around the New

697
00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:51,200
Speaker 3: York next. Yeah, there's a lot of stuff happening around

698
00:30:51,200 --> 00:30:53,080
Speaker 3: the next I doubt it. I just think he got tossed.

699
00:30:53,120 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 3: There was the Alfred Bayton thing a couple of weeks ago.

700
00:30:56,720 --> 00:31:00,680
Speaker 3: There's a lot, Yeah, so not surprising. You kind of

701
00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,440
Speaker 3: have to do something, though, I think if you're see that,

702
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:04,480
Speaker 3: that's the.

703
00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,040
Speaker 4: Thing you don't they like they're walking away from each other.

704
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: Who cares?

705
00:31:08,440 --> 00:31:09,520
Speaker 4: So what the ball hit them?

706
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:11,680
Speaker 3: Guy throws the ball from the rim. It wasn't like

707
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:14,840
Speaker 3: two feet away. I mean they give they give a

708
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,320
Speaker 3: teck for when you toss it when you're like three

709
00:31:17,360 --> 00:31:19,840
Speaker 3: feet away. He tossed it twenty feet.

710
00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, we reffl sometimes give a tech if you throw

711
00:31:22,920 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: the ball at them, if you roll the ball aggressively

712
00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 4: at them.

713
00:31:26,680 --> 00:31:28,320
Speaker 2: Or if you put a little bit too much stank

714
00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:29,760
Speaker 2: on it when you're dishing it back.

715
00:31:29,840 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 4: Yeah, right right.

716
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:34,200
Speaker 1: He doesn't appear to have had a first Okay, yeah, okay,

717
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: Well well I just got to that. Yeah, first tick

718
00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:38,600
Speaker 1: and then what.

719
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:41,520
Speaker 4: Do you okay, bonus upper down, upper down on the

720
00:31:41,640 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 4: Kevin Garnett, you know, blocking the shot after the whistle

721
00:31:45,520 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 4: to not allow it to go in.

722
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:50,120
Speaker 2: It just it feels like part of the league now,

723
00:31:50,400 --> 00:31:52,840
Speaker 2: like you can remember when it started with Kevin Garnett.

724
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:54,560
Speaker 2: We think of it as Kevin Garnett, but now every

725
00:31:54,640 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: player does it.

726
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 4: I will say it's dipped a little bit though in

727
00:31:57,560 --> 00:31:59,440
Speaker 4: the last year or two, I think I think we

728
00:31:59,520 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 4: used to see it a lot more. There was a

729
00:32:01,120 --> 00:32:03,080
Speaker 4: stretch where it happened all the time, and I think

730
00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,760
Speaker 4: it's it has you know, peter down a little bit.

731
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:07,680
Speaker 4: You upper down on it though.

732
00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:09,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, I'm fine with it, you know.

733
00:32:09,920 --> 00:32:10,360
Speaker 4: Yeah. Yeah.

734
00:32:10,400 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: You always want to sort of send those little mental

735
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:15,520
Speaker 1: messages to friends or to opponents and say I'm not

736
00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,440
Speaker 1: because it's like you don't want to let them see

737
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: that ball go through the hoop at all. So it's like,

738
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 1: you know, I'm blucking this goaltending.

739
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:24,280
Speaker 4: I can't wait for someone to roll an ankle doing it.

740
00:32:24,960 --> 00:32:26,239
Speaker 1: Someone got their fingercourt one.

741
00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 3: Yeah on the net.

742
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:29,280
Speaker 1: It was a long time ago, but yeah, that's that's

743
00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:30,920
Speaker 1: going to happen. Someone's going to injure themselves.

744
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:34,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, you'll come down awkwardly. And it's because you didn't

745
00:32:34,880 --> 00:32:36,840
Speaker 4: want after the whistle for the ball go through the net.

746
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 4: How do you know it was even going in. That's

747
00:32:38,720 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 4: the thing.

748
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:40,640
Speaker 2: You don't want to let them see. You don't want

749
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 2: to let them get a taste.

750
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,160
Speaker 4: You don't want give them that confidence. I know some

751
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:46,080
Speaker 4: people that that one on Twitter or at least people

752
00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 4: are torn on that one. Whether they think it's a

753
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,600
Speaker 4: good thing. Yeah, not giving the guy the confidence, the shooter.

754
00:32:50,880 --> 00:32:52,320
Speaker 4: I know the people think it's the dumbest thing in

755
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:52,680
Speaker 4: the world.

756
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 2: Well, both their trip, but you don't want to let

757
00:32:56,600 --> 00:32:57,720
Speaker 2: them see it go through, that's for sure.

758
00:32:57,840 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 4: Okay, final one here yesterday, this one's a ESPN had

759
00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:03,080
Speaker 4: a clip on their website featuring Jackie McMullen and Brian

760
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 4: win Horse debating whether Lebron James could win all three

761
00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,920
Speaker 4: events on All Star Saturday Night, the Skills competition, the

762
00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 4: three point contests, and the dunk contests. The two of

763
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 4: them were debating whether Lebron could do it at this

764
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 4: stage of his career. Are you up or down on

765
00:33:20,400 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 4: Lebron's chances at sweeping All Star Saturday Night Skills comp

766
00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,560
Speaker 4: three point dunk?

767
00:33:26,360 --> 00:33:28,520
Speaker 2: Could he do it? Sure, but I don't think he would.

768
00:33:28,640 --> 00:33:30,959
Speaker 2: I don't think he would win a three point contest, right,

769
00:33:31,040 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 2: It's the main thing to me.

770
00:33:31,880 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 4: He'd be down on his chances. I think that's fair.

771
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 2: Yes, I would be down on his chances. I would

772
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: not bet on it. But I also if Lebron decided,

773
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:40,880
Speaker 2: for whatever reason to finally enter some events on a

774
00:33:40,920 --> 00:33:43,360
Speaker 2: Saturday Night, he could easily go out and sweep it.

775
00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 2: He wouldn't, but he could.

776
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:48,200
Speaker 4: Yeah. Like wind Horse, they sort of debated which one

777
00:33:48,240 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 4: would be you know, quote unquote easier, more realistic for

778
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 4: him to win between the three point contests and the

779
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:56,440
Speaker 4: dunk contest, Like the skills competition, anybody could win. We've

780
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:59,080
Speaker 4: proven that, like literally anybody could win it in the NBA.

781
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 4: But Winners was saying he thinks that his chances, Lebron's

782
00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:05,240
Speaker 4: chances of winning the three point on is are higher

783
00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:07,600
Speaker 4: than the dunk contest, which I thought was interesting because

784
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,759
Speaker 4: he's like, Lebron is a streaky three point shooter, that's true,

785
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,440
Speaker 4: and the way he shoots it too pretty obviously effort

786
00:34:13,560 --> 00:34:16,160
Speaker 4: effortless because he's huge. I mean, you could see him

787
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,960
Speaker 4: catching fire where he says, Lebron has only ever gone

788
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:22,040
Speaker 4: in one dunk contest when he was in high school

789
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,120
Speaker 4: in the McDonald's All American Game, and he won, but

790
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:29,319
Speaker 4: he shouldn't have because it was in Cleveland. I think

791
00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 4: it was it was we were just talking about him.

792
00:34:31,920 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 4: What's his name, Flakers guy, Shannon Brown. Yeah, I think

793
00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:37,440
Speaker 4: it was against him that put on a show on that.

794
00:34:37,520 --> 00:34:39,600
Speaker 4: But Lebron got it done. But he just doesn't have

795
00:34:39,719 --> 00:34:42,680
Speaker 4: a he doesn't have those type of dunk contests like dunks,

796
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:43,640
Speaker 4: and that would be more difficult.

797
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:43,880
Speaker 3: I don't know.

798
00:34:43,880 --> 00:34:44,920
Speaker 4: I thought it was an interesting debate.

799
00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: I think he'd be fine in the dunk contest still,

800
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:48,920
Speaker 1: because you say it's the warm up still some of

801
00:34:48,960 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 1: those ones. Yeah, throws it off the back border, yeah,

802
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:52,839
Speaker 1: and does all that, although we don't see as much

803
00:34:52,840 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: of that anymore.

804
00:34:53,960 --> 00:34:55,520
Speaker 2: He would get the King bump still.

805
00:34:55,600 --> 00:34:55,799
Speaker 1: Yeah.

806
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:57,960
Speaker 2: The NBA, Yes, I would just be happy to see

807
00:34:58,040 --> 00:34:59,400
Speaker 2: him there that anything he does is going to be

808
00:34:59,400 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 2: a fifty.

809
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,120
Speaker 1: I would like to see him in the three point

810
00:35:01,160 --> 00:35:05,040
Speaker 1: shootout this year though, because of those mountain dew balls, right,

811
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,600
Speaker 1: that's kind of the spot where Lebron, especially one on

812
00:35:07,640 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: that left wing there where Lebron hits those huge threes from.

813
00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,880
Speaker 1: So you know he's getting three points out of at

814
00:35:12,960 --> 00:35:15,200
Speaker 1: least one of those. So that could Pumpy score up

815
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:15,640
Speaker 1: a little bit.

816
00:35:15,719 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 4: Does Lebron have a mountain dew He's a sprite guy,

817
00:35:19,680 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 4: that's yeah.

818
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,359
Speaker 2: He can't go in long lemon lime.

819
00:35:22,520 --> 00:35:26,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, he'd have his own sprite contest at the other

820
00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,640
Speaker 3: end of the floor probably. That's why I think he would.

821
00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 3: He would bring the gravitas, he would bring it all

822
00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:34,560
Speaker 3: to the dunk contest, like he'd have the fanfare he'd

823
00:35:34,640 --> 00:35:37,080
Speaker 3: have the name. He would make a show for his

824
00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:40,239
Speaker 3: four ducks, right, like he would. They would be great,

825
00:35:40,880 --> 00:35:44,120
Speaker 3: even if they wouldn't be the most technically amazing. No,

826
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,680
Speaker 3: I agree, there's there would be a lot surrounding them.

827
00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 3: So I think, yeah, but a three.

828
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:52,160
Speaker 4: Point contest, I mean, I get what Windhorse is saying.

829
00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:54,719
Speaker 4: Anyone can catch fire. You're an NBA player, I get it,

830
00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 4: there's no defense, But I I just don't see it.

831
00:35:58,080 --> 00:36:00,600
Speaker 2: What do you shoot fadeaways every three point?

832
00:36:01,280 --> 00:36:03,719
Speaker 4: Would he spin the ball like is in front of

833
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:04,399
Speaker 4: him all the time.

834
00:36:04,520 --> 00:36:07,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, it would take him a while, just even if

835
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 3: you just shot them, it would take a long time.

836
00:36:09,920 --> 00:36:12,840
Speaker 3: But you've seen some bad numbers win this contest.

837
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,719
Speaker 4: That's right, That's right, that's right. Okay. Then the follow

838
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,399
Speaker 4: up question that it sounds like we sort of don't

839
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,080
Speaker 4: think it's all that realistic that he could do it.

840
00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 4: Who could who would have the best chance in today's

841
00:36:21,600 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 4: game to win? Again, the skills, which anybody could, but

842
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:25,640
Speaker 4: the three.

843
00:36:25,480 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 2: Point contests and the dunk contest exactly?

844
00:36:28,560 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 4: Yep, Yeah, I mean I think you're right. He's obviously yeah.

845
00:36:33,280 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: And he's shooting forty percent from three, shooting a ton

846
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:38,359
Speaker 2: of threes. His major downfall would be passing the ball

847
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: through the hoops and the skills challenge.

848
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:42,360
Speaker 4: He would actually win those two, but lose the sales.

849
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:43,719
Speaker 2: That would be the hardest part.

850
00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 4: I think, Wow, I had thought about that. Yeah, he's

851
00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:48,360
Speaker 4: an obvious pick. I've got him on my list. I

852
00:36:48,400 --> 00:36:50,760
Speaker 4: got a couple more. See if you guys agree to disagree.

853
00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 4: Paul George, I think he's would be in play for

854
00:36:54,280 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: both the due point contests. Yeah, Glenn Robinson the third

855
00:36:57,400 --> 00:36:59,880
Speaker 4: is a good three point shooter, and he's wanted to

856
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:03,600
Speaker 4: contests dunks over a bunch of guys. Maybe he catches

857
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 4: fire and then maybe like this is a bit of

858
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 4: a reach. Norman Powell, Norman, I say he could.

859
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:14,440
Speaker 1: But anyone else, well not this season because he just

860
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:17,080
Speaker 1: come back from injury. But Ala Depot is a pretty

861
00:37:17,120 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 1: flashy dunker. He can shoot the three and he's a

862
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 1: point out, so he could he could maybe do.

863
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:23,680
Speaker 4: It, Okay, okay, anyone else?

864
00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,760
Speaker 2: Uh? Donovan Mitchell, Yeah, could he win a three point contest?

865
00:37:28,000 --> 00:37:33,160
Speaker 4: M that's the thing, like yeah, like yeah, I struggle

866
00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,360
Speaker 4: even with like an Oladipot trying to trying to picture

867
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 4: him with a three point contest. But yeah, why not?

868
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:40,800
Speaker 4: Why not they obviously they take enough attempts. Yeah, you

869
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 4: catch fire. Yeah, we are going to make all of

870
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 4: our All Star Saturday Night predictions on Saturday Night the

871
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:54,840
Speaker 4: Lie from Chicago at Shuba's Tavern before the festivities, we

872
00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 4: have our live show and we'll talk it out. We'll see,

873
00:37:57,360 --> 00:37:59,960
Speaker 4: uh see who everybody likes in some of these competition

874
00:38:00,239 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 4: and of course in the All Star Game and MVP

875
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,760
Speaker 4: went in that. Always a blast making those fun predictions,

876
00:38:04,880 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 4: fun pointless predictions. But everybody's got a strong opinion. All right,

877
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:09,560
Speaker 4: let's get to tweeted.

878
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 3: The night, tweet out the night. Wow, all right, I

879
00:38:18,920 --> 00:38:19,719
Speaker 3: got tweeted.

880
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 4: The night and this one is from at Russ Bankston.

881
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:26,200
Speaker 4: He tweeted, last night, can someone please explain to me

882
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:28,640
Speaker 4: why it was so important to give Dwayne Wade and

883
00:38:28,719 --> 00:38:31,719
Speaker 4: Dirk Novitsky All Star spots in their final season, but

884
00:38:31,880 --> 00:38:35,480
Speaker 4: apparently not so much for Vince Carter. He went on

885
00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 4: to tweet, Vince was the leading vote attor four times.

886
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 4: He gave up his starting spot to Michael Jordan in

887
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 4: two thousand and three, and he delivered what was possibly

888
00:38:43,360 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 4: the most memorable All Star weekend moment ever at the

889
00:38:46,440 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 4: two thousand dunk contests. So I thought this was an

890
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 4: interesting tweet to bring to you guys, because I saw,

891
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,080
Speaker 4: you know, there was a lot of blowback into this tweet,

892
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 4: the main one being rings. You know, everybody's saying, you know,

893
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,719
Speaker 4: Dirk and Wade had the rings and Vince doesn't, and

894
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 4: whether that matters to you for something like this, And

895
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,480
Speaker 4: then a lot of people as have said, maybe Vince declined,

896
00:39:09,040 --> 00:39:11,160
Speaker 4: like we don't know, like that the league didn't reach out.

897
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 4: He's He's said before. He's on record saying like he

898
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:16,080
Speaker 4: didn't want this sort of last ride treatment, even though

899
00:39:16,120 --> 00:39:17,880
Speaker 4: you know this is his last year. He's made that

900
00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:20,360
Speaker 4: very clear. So maybe he low key just straight up

901
00:39:20,440 --> 00:39:22,719
Speaker 4: is like I appreciate it, but I don't want to

902
00:39:22,840 --> 00:39:24,080
Speaker 4: be sort of just there.

903
00:39:24,719 --> 00:39:26,520
Speaker 1: I doubt he would have turned it down myself. I

904
00:39:26,560 --> 00:39:28,360
Speaker 1: think he would have gone if they invited him. But

905
00:39:28,440 --> 00:39:30,160
Speaker 1: I just wonder if he thought, if I go and

906
00:39:30,239 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 1: people want me to dunk again or do the dunk

907
00:39:32,760 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: contest or something like that. Maybe, But I mean in

908
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,919
Speaker 1: terms of rings, I mean definitely won one, you know. Yeah,

909
00:39:38,960 --> 00:39:41,400
Speaker 1: And Russ makes a good point, like All Star Weekend

910
00:39:41,520 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 1: Vince had some incredible moments there, you know. Yeah, so

911
00:39:44,840 --> 00:39:46,160
Speaker 1: I think he's worthy of a spot.

912
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: But who does Vince Carter belong to? I think that's

913
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,799
Speaker 2: a huge factor in this. Derk Novitsky one team guy.

914
00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:55,200
Speaker 2: He's a Dallas Maverick legend. Let's send them off. Dwayne Wade,

915
00:39:55,440 --> 00:39:58,479
Speaker 2: he's a one team guy, Miami Heat legend. It's gonna

916
00:39:58,480 --> 00:40:01,239
Speaker 2: be like Michael Jordan playing with the Wizards the years

917
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,919
Speaker 2: that he didn't play for the Bulls or the Heat,

918
00:40:04,120 --> 00:40:06,719
Speaker 2: they didn't actually happen, so these but Vince Carter has

919
00:40:06,760 --> 00:40:09,359
Speaker 2: played for so many teams. Right, It's a good point,

920
00:40:09,400 --> 00:40:10,719
Speaker 2: But I think that's a huge part of it.

921
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, look, I do wonder if you know, the

922
00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:17,239
Speaker 4: terrible tragedy with Kobe Bryant and that that will be

923
00:40:17,320 --> 00:40:19,960
Speaker 4: sort of the focus of the celebration this week in Chicago.

924
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:22,080
Speaker 4: Maybe that came into play as well for all we know.

925
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,879
Speaker 4: And then other people are like, well, if you invite Vince,

926
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,879
Speaker 4: you've got to invite somebody else to even it out.

927
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:26,839
Speaker 2: No, you don't.

928
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:29,880
Speaker 4: You definitely do not need to do that. I mean,

929
00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:32,560
Speaker 4: cool if you want to, but we don't have to

930
00:40:32,800 --> 00:40:35,480
Speaker 4: have another guy there. Just for even numbers in an

931
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 4: All Star game. We definitely don't need that.

932
00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:42,440
Speaker 3: So, but what do you think I think Vince's uh.

933
00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 3: I think he could have turned it down even if

934
00:40:45,960 --> 00:40:48,640
Speaker 3: he was asked. I think he's been celebrated enough. I

935
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:53,320
Speaker 3: don't think he's really loving every single arena wishing him off, like.

936
00:40:53,520 --> 00:40:55,560
Speaker 3: I just don't think he's that type of guy. He's

937
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:58,319
Speaker 3: talked about it all year. He knows he's not an

938
00:40:58,360 --> 00:41:03,160
Speaker 3: All Star anymore. I don't see him doing the dunk

939
00:41:03,160 --> 00:41:06,399
Speaker 3: contest like he just wouldn't do. He definitely would turn

940
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:09,879
Speaker 3: that down. And so I think we've given him as due.

941
00:41:10,200 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 3: I think we've all appreciated him, and yes he is.

942
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,880
Speaker 3: He has given us the All Star moment of the

943
00:41:15,960 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 3: last twenty years, undoubtedly. Oh yeah, that was it. And

944
00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,880
Speaker 3: on the twenty year anniversary yesterday, it was great to

945
00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:24,719
Speaker 3: remember it also great to remember that he did have

946
00:41:24,840 --> 00:41:27,640
Speaker 3: a fifth dunk that I blocked out of my brain.

947
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 3: The old two hand free three through was gone from

948
00:41:31,000 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 3: my mind. He just he just threw it down. He's like, Okay,

949
00:41:34,000 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 3: I'll do this. But a great article on Sportsnet about

950
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 3: recapping the oral history. It was from me a few

951
00:41:39,320 --> 00:41:42,680
Speaker 3: years ago, but recapping how he kind of just freewheeled it.

952
00:41:43,480 --> 00:41:46,720
Speaker 3: The car ride to the arena wasn't there at first,

953
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,640
Speaker 3: kind of got in his head. He was a little

954
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:51,760
Speaker 3: upset the car didn't arrive. It was great to relive

955
00:41:51,800 --> 00:41:56,240
Speaker 3: those little news for us here Sean Sherania. The Athletic

956
00:41:56,880 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 3: has broken that Devin Booker will replace Damian Lillard on

957
00:42:00,600 --> 00:42:01,800
Speaker 3: Sunday and Saturday.

958
00:42:01,880 --> 00:42:06,920
Speaker 4: Oh it was a package deal. Smooth move by Silver there.

959
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:09,400
Speaker 4: All right, Booker, here's a game on Sunday, but you

960
00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:10,560
Speaker 4: gotta compete on Sorurday?

961
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 3: Did they say if he hung up the phone, he clicked,

962
00:42:14,280 --> 00:42:15,239
Speaker 3: he clicked the red button.

963
00:42:15,400 --> 00:42:17,120
Speaker 1: You don't really hang up anymore? Do you just like

964
00:42:17,239 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 1: screen him? You just let him go to voicemail.

965
00:42:19,520 --> 00:42:21,520
Speaker 2: It's like, I don't recognize this Devin.

966
00:42:21,719 --> 00:42:24,440
Speaker 1: Adam just wondering if you want to come on Saturday night.

967
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,480
Speaker 4: If you don't respond, I'll take that as a yes.

968
00:42:28,239 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 3: I think Dame's picking picking up private numbers though you

969
00:42:31,320 --> 00:42:33,719
Speaker 3: mean Booker. I'm sorry Booker's picking up if it's a

970
00:42:33,760 --> 00:42:35,120
Speaker 3: private number, I apologies.

971
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: Because the big boss says his name on man that

972
00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,160
Speaker 1: helps up? Yeah, just his boss boss.

973
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:45,439
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, good, perfectly timed. Booker is in both

974
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,480
Speaker 4: the three point contests on Saturday night and in the

975
00:42:48,600 --> 00:42:51,719
Speaker 4: game on Sunday, his first All Star game. I'll hear

976
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,520
Speaker 4: from you guys about that. Russ Bankston tweet. Do you

977
00:42:53,600 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 4: think Vince should be celebrated and invited? Of course light

978
00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,960
Speaker 4: weight and Dirkworrer last year? And maybe is it? Like

979
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 4: it is tough because it's like where do you draw

980
00:43:04,280 --> 00:43:07,319
Speaker 4: the line? I mean, Vince's a legend. We all agree

981
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:09,960
Speaker 4: with that. But is Vince a top fifty player of

982
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:11,759
Speaker 4: all time? Probably not?

983
00:43:12,560 --> 00:43:12,960
Speaker 3: Probably?

984
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,920
Speaker 4: No, I'm serious. Yeah, I'm saying, like Wade and Dirk

985
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:19,360
Speaker 4: are top fifty, they're probably top twenty five. I mean,

986
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:22,120
Speaker 4: we're gonna go through the list here, but I'm saying they're.

987
00:43:21,960 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 2: Their first ballot Hall of famers those guys are, and

988
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,759
Speaker 2: Vince honestly, it might not be a first time thing.

989
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:27,319
Speaker 3: Right right?

990
00:43:27,640 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: And does that matter to you? Maybe it doesn't at all.

991
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 4: Let's it for you, guys, hashtag no dougs. Great tweet there,

992
00:43:32,160 --> 00:43:37,360
Speaker 4: Rus Bankson pick them results from last night? Yeah, god sucks.

993
00:43:39,520 --> 00:43:42,000
Speaker 4: I mean, thank god for a leap here. I got

994
00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 4: one more night in February, but I mean, I really

995
00:43:44,560 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 4: needed this. I took the Nuggets. I was the only

996
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 4: guy here to take the Nuggets. And I've said before

997
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:51,480
Speaker 4: when you lose a pick and payoff, I'd rather the

998
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,719
Speaker 4: Nuggets had lost by like twenty five than lose in

999
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,160
Speaker 4: overtime when they were the dog. I mean, they could

1000
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:59,080
Speaker 4: have lost by one point and I still would have covered,

1001
00:43:59,120 --> 00:44:02,120
Speaker 4: but they was by four. Anthony Davis hitting those threes

1002
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:03,200
Speaker 4: and overtime, those were big.

1003
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:06,960
Speaker 3: I do find it unfair if you're betting and you

1004
00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 3: have a point that you're getting as an underdog, and

1005
00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:13,880
Speaker 3: they tied at the end overtime, why do you lose?

1006
00:44:14,280 --> 00:44:16,160
Speaker 1: Well, the game is that technically over?

1007
00:44:17,560 --> 00:44:19,040
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you, Tass. You want to give me

1008
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:19,319
Speaker 4: the win?

1009
00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:19,799
Speaker 3: Sure?

1010
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 4: Okay? Great? No utson l I'm two and six. You

1011
00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:24,760
Speaker 4: guys all picked up the victory task. You're a beautiful

1012
00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 4: six and two, Trey five and three, Leave four and

1013
00:44:28,040 --> 00:44:31,839
Speaker 4: four five hundred, So I'm two back at Lelee. Uh oh,

1014
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,800
Speaker 4: that one would have really helped me. I need a

1015
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,520
Speaker 4: victory going into the All Star break here. So what's

1016
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:37,200
Speaker 4: our game tonight?

1017
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 3: Only two on, Only two on, and the last night

1018
00:44:39,800 --> 00:44:43,800
Speaker 3: before All Star weekend festivities. Begin. The Clippers are visiting

1019
00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:47,359
Speaker 3: the Celtics on T and T the big one there.

1020
00:44:47,840 --> 00:44:50,960
Speaker 3: Celtics are one and a half point favorites at home,

1021
00:44:51,200 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: so a very close line. They had won seven in

1022
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:57,759
Speaker 3: a row before they lost to Houston on Tuesday, and

1023
00:44:57,760 --> 00:45:00,560
Speaker 3: the Clippers are wrapping up a four game trip where

1024
00:45:00,600 --> 00:45:01,759
Speaker 3: they have started one and two.

1025
00:45:02,760 --> 00:45:06,359
Speaker 4: I'll take the Clippers just like that. Yep, I'm jumping

1026
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:07,040
Speaker 4: ahead of you guys.

1027
00:45:06,920 --> 00:45:09,200
Speaker 3: On this one. I mean, I agree, I will take

1028
00:45:09,239 --> 00:45:10,120
Speaker 3: the Clippers as well.

1029
00:45:11,120 --> 00:45:14,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, Patrick Beverley, it looks like for the Clippers,

1030
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 2: but the Celtics don't really have a guy that can

1031
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:19,040
Speaker 2: punish them inside. So give me the Clips.

1032
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:22,320
Speaker 1: I'll take the Celtics.

1033
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,040
Speaker 4: You go, you got, I'll give them one guy. Good

1034
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 4: stuff Therely you got the Celtics. They got to win

1035
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:32,160
Speaker 4: by two or more. We everybody else has the Clippers. Guys.

1036
00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:34,520
Speaker 4: Like I said off the top, check out yesterday's beach

1037
00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,239
Speaker 4: step in podcasts, and if you listen to us on

1038
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:39,840
Speaker 4: Apple Podcasts, don't forget to rate and review your boys.

1039
00:45:39,880 --> 00:45:43,600
Speaker 4: Why because it's five star Friday tomorrow.

1040
00:45:44,239 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 2: On Valentine's Day, make it romantic, and.

1041
00:45:46,600 --> 00:45:50,399
Speaker 4: Yes we will have a podcast Friday morning, our daily show,

1042
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:54,359
Speaker 4: the Drop Podcast, before we knock on Wood here, jump

1043
00:45:54,440 --> 00:45:56,760
Speaker 4: on a plane and fly to Chicago for All Star Weekend,

1044
00:45:56,840 --> 00:46:00,239
Speaker 4: where we will have a live show on Saturday night.

1045
00:46:00,320 --> 00:46:03,120
Speaker 4: We will have another podcast wrapping up the All Star

1046
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,719
Speaker 4: festivities on Sunday morning, and it's gonna have a blast.

1047
00:46:06,760 --> 00:46:08,480
Speaker 4: We told you to follow us on Twitter and Instagram

1048
00:46:08,560 --> 00:46:10,759
Speaker 4: as well at No Dunk Sinc. I say knock on

1049
00:46:10,840 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: wood because woo the weather right now in Chicago rough.

1050
00:46:14,320 --> 00:46:16,480
Speaker 4: I think we've got a storm coming here in Atlanta right,

1051
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 4: Hopefully we get there on time. I think we've timed

1052
00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 4: it a day perfect. I think everybody traveling today maybe

1053
00:46:21,239 --> 00:46:25,040
Speaker 4: is screwed and they're listening to this in some airport

1054
00:46:25,120 --> 00:46:27,440
Speaker 4: lounge while their flight is mad delayed. So hopefully the

1055
00:46:27,520 --> 00:46:30,560
Speaker 4: Friday works well, but we'll have to drop podcasts again tomorrow.

1056
00:46:30,640 --> 00:46:31,240
Speaker 4: Clipper Bros.

1057
00:46:31,520 --> 00:46:33,960
Speaker 2: You heard it here first. Have a great time, turn up,

1058
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:35,759
Speaker 2: love you guys awesome.

1059
00:46:36,480 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us, and remember a great drinking game

1060
00:46:38,840 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 3: while consuming All Star Game coverage. Anytime someone mentions the weather, drink.

1061
00:46:45,920 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 4: Embrace the day.

1062
00:46:46,560 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 1: People. You could say.

1063
00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:55,160
Speaker 2: Every day, may Dad be happy every day.

1064
00:46:58,360 --> 00:47:02,000
Speaker 4: It's been so long you're the funam waiting for.

1065
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:07,880
Speaker 3: It's happened already. It's gonna be grippy.