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Speaker 1: gonna start getting guys building their draft boards. Some teams
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Speaker 1: we worked for has not yet done that. Will McClay
Speaker 1: did stop by. He said hello to the troops yesterday.
Speaker 1: I love that guy. Yeah, so it's nice to have
Speaker 1: an opportunity to visit with him a little bit about
Speaker 1: what's going on. And you are with the Draft show.
Speaker 1: Brian brought us Dane Brugler from CBS Sports and Dallas
Speaker 1: Cowboys dot Com, Dave Hellman from Dallas Cowboys dot Com,
Speaker 1: Kent Garrison, Executive producer. Today, guys, I want to get
Speaker 1: into this, Dave, you and I this morning and Dane
Speaker 1: when he came in we're talking about a little stuff.
Speaker 1: Some uh, some guys that NFL dot Com has put
Speaker 1: out a list of overrated players underrated players. Gil Brandt
Speaker 1: part of that group. Though I'm interested. It's a fitting
Speaker 1: time of year because like now we're kind of into
Speaker 1: the point where, I mean, y'all are still turning over
Speaker 1: your your priority free agents and looking under all your
Speaker 1: stones and everything. But but I mean, we've talked about
Speaker 1: just about every high profile guy, you know, everybody that's
Speaker 1: gonna go in the top hundred or so. I feel like,
Speaker 1: certainly you guys have a good grasp on and I
Speaker 1: feel like we've probably talked at least touched on on
Speaker 1: this show. So it's a good time of year for that.
Speaker 1: Which one? Which one makes you more curious? I feel like, like,
Speaker 1: are you more interested in the underrated guys or the
Speaker 1: guys that people are talking I always want to know
Speaker 1: about the overrated guys. Yeah, myself. I don't know about Dane,
Speaker 1: but I've always I'm always interested in the guys that
Speaker 1: people think you know. And it might be what we do,
Speaker 1: the work. We sit down and these folks do the
Speaker 1: work too, But I'm always interested who somebody thinks is
Speaker 1: overrated that it's interested because with the draft, especially with
Speaker 1: Twitter and every all the draft coverage these days, just
Speaker 1: to find out the narrative and what people think of
Speaker 1: these players, because you have to form your own opinion
Speaker 1: first and foremost. You know, you don't want to hear
Speaker 1: what other people are saying, and then that factors into
Speaker 1: your evaluation. You want to do your own evaluation in
Speaker 1: a vacuum the best you can, and then figure out
Speaker 1: how other people view the same player. And it is
Speaker 1: interesting to see how, you know, what people run the
Speaker 1: league and people in the media, people that you respect,
Speaker 1: think of that. We're into the month now, are getting
Speaker 1: close to the month where folks are starting to lie.
Speaker 1: Sure you're gonna get you. Yeah. In the initial the
Speaker 1: initial wave of of conversation about these players when we started, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was probably the truthful way of going. And now
Speaker 1: it comes down to throwing chum in the water and
Speaker 1: seeing where we're at. How much of it is willful
Speaker 1: lying and how much of it is just like, how
Speaker 1: long can we talk about this stuff before we kind
Speaker 1: of start to overthink it? And I think we've overthought it.
Speaker 1: I started on this thing on Dane's been doing this Yeah.
Speaker 1: I started on to December first, we had four games
Speaker 1: left still the season, and I just made the determination
Speaker 1: this now becomes important, yeah and annoying. Yeah, but I
Speaker 1: I to me though, this is kind of a this
Speaker 1: is a year round job. Talking about the draft and
Speaker 1: getting ready for a draft is a year round job now. Well,
Speaker 1: and that's for the media. For the media, it is
Speaker 1: for of course, for the guys sitting in that war room,
Speaker 1: but for us it's it's become a year round job.
Speaker 1: You're not doing a year round then you're not doing
Speaker 1: your job because you need three hundred and sixty five
Speaker 1: days to figure out all these guys what they're about
Speaker 1: and you know, to fully understand who they are going
Speaker 1: to be as NFL players. I mean, this is one
Speaker 1: of my favorite parts of the draft process because you know,
Speaker 1: not looking at tapes of you know, Joey Bosa and
Speaker 1: the Forrest Buckner. I mean, we're looking at guys from
Speaker 1: William and Mary and Campbell and we're trying to find Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're trying to find the guys that are sleep people
Speaker 1: are sleeping on that you know don't have They're not
Speaker 1: in the headlines. But you know, the more you dive
Speaker 1: deep the more you find these guys, and you look
Speaker 1: throughout the NFL. Sure there's a lot of first round
Speaker 1: there's a lot of top ten guys, but there's also
Speaker 1: a lot of seventh round picks, undrafted guys, guys from
Speaker 1: the FCS Division two. And so you know there will
Speaker 1: be several players from this draft that go undrafted in
Speaker 1: the later rounds who will go on to be starters
Speaker 1: in this league. And so let's try to find them
Speaker 1: now that that's the best part of this process. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and then too, you had the league adding the compensatory picks.
Speaker 1: It's a whole nother round right there of guys added
Speaker 1: to the mix. So who do you got, David, we
Speaker 1: were talking about some of these guys. I want to
Speaker 1: throw these out there because they make me feel smart.
Speaker 1: I don't watch as much tape as you guys, but
Speaker 1: sure a couple of guys that I have watched who
Speaker 1: I came away from their tape just kind of like, really, yeah,
Speaker 1: Eli Apple, I didn't see it. I'm not the expert here,
Speaker 1: but him an overrated prospect. He is being overrated by
Speaker 1: NFL dot Com. And you know you're talking about a
Speaker 1: guy who's he's people are talking about him as a
Speaker 1: first round pick the teens twenty Pittsburg, which on Well,
Speaker 1: you did the mock draft stuff. Is it really about
Speaker 1: the Cowboys stuff that you have you've been seeing this?
Speaker 1: I mean I look, I look, I look at at
Speaker 1: the whole thing before, but I mean, obviously I am
Speaker 1: focused on the Cowboys. But yeah, I mean you're talking.
Speaker 1: Actually I just kind of thought about this is he
Speaker 1: and maybe this is a compliment to him, like maybe
Speaker 1: kind of like a Byron Jones vibe, you know, like
Speaker 1: I think it's the numbers really impress people more than
Speaker 1: the tape. Well, and that's I think it goes back
Speaker 1: to the Golden rule scouting traits over production. You know,
Speaker 1: NFL teams are drafting guys for what they're going to do,
Speaker 1: not for what they have done. And with Eli Apple
Speaker 1: in his case, he's write shirt sophomore, right. He doesn't
Speaker 1: even turn twenty one years old until August. So this
Speaker 1: is a very young player who is over six foot,
Speaker 1: his long arms, and he can run you. If you're
Speaker 1: going to draft him, you have to kind of live
Speaker 1: and die with his hands on approach. He's a grabby
Speaker 1: He's a physical grabby guy. Yeah, then you have to
Speaker 1: live and die with that, you know, until he figures
Speaker 1: out that fine line and what he can get away
Speaker 1: with him what he can right, So there's going to
Speaker 1: be some bumps in the road, There's no question about
Speaker 1: it if you draft Eli Apple. But again, you're drafting
Speaker 1: him for what you think he can be. And so
Speaker 1: I understand if he ends up in the first round
Speaker 1: because Apple has all the trades. Yeah, physical toughness. He's
Speaker 1: right about this guy. So I mean you feel fine
Speaker 1: with him as a first round guy just based on
Speaker 1: those things alone. At some point in the first round,
Speaker 1: I I do think he's he's worthy when you start
Speaker 1: comparing all the guys. You know, if you don't like it,
Speaker 1: if you don't like the short corners, he's gonna go
Speaker 1: up the poor And I don't not every first round
Speaker 1: pick is gonna be you know, the slam dunk. But
Speaker 1: I think at some point there are not you know,
Speaker 1: thirty better players in this draft than Eli Apple. That's fair. Okay,
Speaker 1: that's fair. So Dave thinks he's one bad Apple. Wow,
Speaker 1: that's something that's something I would say. That's your producer.
Speaker 1: Can't garrison that coming strong already to boist it on
Speaker 1: my own pot disappointed. Hen't come up with that. I like,
Speaker 1: I'm saying, I'm embarrassed, honestly. Um, another guy, if he's
Speaker 1: a bus he's just waiting for that headline to be everywhere, right,
Speaker 1: that that'll be on the page of like the New
Speaker 1: York Time, like the New York tabloids. They are always
Speaker 1: so mean. He'll actually changes his He changed his name
Speaker 1: the Apple when he showed up a Ohio state. Uh,
Speaker 1: you guys, no one cares about this. He was actually
Speaker 1: his last name is Woodard, so he'll probably go back
Speaker 1: to that if that happened. So there you go, there
Speaker 1: you go. Good good call Um another guy I hate.
Speaker 1: I'm scouting right there by the way. It's not it's
Speaker 1: not because of where he went to school, I promise
Speaker 1: Robert Kimdici. Yeah, don't like him. Don't think I mean,
Speaker 1: the off field concerns are not good. And then I
Speaker 1: just inconsistent on on tape. I thought, for how talented
Speaker 1: he is, I don't. I don't see you think he's
Speaker 1: a top ten player though, right talent? We have talked
Speaker 1: about this guy before and that yeah, well and it's
Speaker 1: I know this sounds contrary to what I just said
Speaker 1: about trades over production. But it does worry me the
Speaker 1: lack of production that he has. I mean, he has
Speaker 1: thirty plus starts and seven career sacks something like that.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's you want to see for a player
Speaker 1: that has that much talent, you just want to see
Speaker 1: more production, more impact plays. And he does, um you know,
Speaker 1: similar to like a Joey Bosa. You know it. You
Speaker 1: can't look at just the box score because he does
Speaker 1: impact the game in a lot of ways. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: just wish it was a little bit more. Yeah, leaves
Speaker 1: you wanting more. There's times where he flashes on tape
Speaker 1: where on the move they don't block him, no, and
Speaker 1: he's in the and he's in the backfield and you're
Speaker 1: like going and scouts you've heard him say it's a
Speaker 1: bunch on the show. Scouts are trained that if they
Speaker 1: see it one time, they believe it. Right, they don't,
Speaker 1: they don't. They don't turn their face away from that.
Speaker 1: But you're right, the thing that the production on him,
Speaker 1: because it's funny we do talk about Bosa, but you
Speaker 1: have to almost include Candici as a way of saying
Speaker 1: the pressure that he's going to create inside the lateral quickness,
Speaker 1: the upfield present. You know he's gonna make some tackles
Speaker 1: for losses and things like that, right, more so than
Speaker 1: maybe be a great pass rusher. But as a three
Speaker 1: technique man, you want Award Daddy in there playing that spot.
Speaker 1: You watch just as highlights and he goes top ten,
Speaker 1: Here's no question about it. He's not nearly as consistent
Speaker 1: as Bosa is. He doesn't have the same type of
Speaker 1: football character that you want. And that's really what it
Speaker 1: comes down to with Ndici. Can you trust him to
Speaker 1: give it everything he has week in week out, snap in,
Speaker 1: snap out, that's the big question. If he's at thirty four,
Speaker 1: you have to you have to consider it, you do.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not saying he has to. He should
Speaker 1: be the pig, but you have to consider it because
Speaker 1: the talent that he brings this, he's got first round talent,
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about that. I'm drawing a firm line
Speaker 1: in this because this is what happened last year. I
Speaker 1: didn't like Randy Gregory, That's true, too. Talked myself into
Speaker 1: it when they did it because what am I gonna do?
Speaker 1: Looked great in training camp and now I'm right back.
Speaker 1: I'm not shake campaign here, Like we got mostly going
Speaker 1: one way. We'll draw on a firm line and I
Speaker 1: wouldn't take him DIC until third sixty seven. If he's
Speaker 1: still there magically at sixty seven. Sure, I don't think
Speaker 1: you're crazy by saying that at all, because he's a
Speaker 1: true wild card. That is, that is absolutely right? All right?
Speaker 1: Who else you got? Two guys? These actually do surprise
Speaker 1: me because I've never heard. All I hear about them
Speaker 1: is glowing reviews. So start with Sheldon Rankins. That's interesting.
Speaker 1: I everything I've think. That's what I'm saying. He's underrated,
Speaker 1: to be honest, I mean maybe we've inflated him a
Speaker 1: little bit too much throughout this process because he has
Speaker 1: been so kind, I mean the Senior Bowl to combine,
Speaker 1: I mean, he's been so impressive throughout the entire last
Speaker 1: three months that you know, maybe we're putting too much
Speaker 1: emphasis on that and not the tape. But the tape
Speaker 1: was impressive too, So I don't know. I see a
Speaker 1: guy that can fit a three four, can fit a
Speaker 1: four three. He can play anywhere you wanted, that defensive
Speaker 1: defensive line, really and right, he played defensive end in
Speaker 1: the three four at Louisville. But he could play the
Speaker 1: three technique, right. I think he's a damn good three
Speaker 1: tech absolutely, So you know, top fifteen, that's where I
Speaker 1: think he should be. I bet you on some boards
Speaker 1: he is higher than Kim dja is. Oh yeah, I
Speaker 1: just pure just preach just watching him play. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think that. I'm not talking about the off the field craziness.
Speaker 1: I'm just talking about pure football player. And even even
Speaker 1: if Kim DJ is like a more athletic freak or whatever,
Speaker 1: like I like his tape better than Kim Dic's tape,
Speaker 1: just like Kim DJ drives me crazy because you want
Speaker 1: him to do more one out of every five place
Speaker 1: if you want more. And yeah, Rankin's to me, top
Speaker 1: defensive tackle in this group. Yeah I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: screw with that at all. And then I just straight
Speaker 1: up I don't agree with this one. I feel like
Speaker 1: you're down on this guy. I love him. I'm biased
Speaker 1: because he's killed my team for the last two or
Speaker 1: three years. But a Sean Robinson like, how is he gets?
Speaker 1: He's great? See. I was just going to mention him
Speaker 1: that if we're talking about overrated defensive tackles. I would
Speaker 1: think Ashan Robinson makes a lot more sense than Sheldon
Speaker 1: Rankins because so you do think he's overrated. Overrated is
Speaker 1: what though? I mean, I think he's mid the late round,
Speaker 1: first round, first round pick. Yeah, but I think a
Speaker 1: lot of people see top fifteen, top twenty Locke, you know,
Speaker 1: he's that type of talent and another guy who's very young.
Speaker 1: I just don't see enough flash. I don't see enough
Speaker 1: impact potential. Yes he can two gap, yes he can
Speaker 1: give He's a good athlete, controls the point of attack.
Speaker 1: But I just need to see a little bit more
Speaker 1: if I'm going to invest top twenty pick in a
Speaker 1: defensive tackle. I hate this word, and I hate it
Speaker 1: because I like to use it when I'm talking about
Speaker 1: my seafood raw. But it he doesn't play with technique,
Speaker 1: and that's unusual for an Alabama kid. You know that defense,
Speaker 1: you would figure that they But there's times he doesn't
Speaker 1: use his hands, there's times he doesn't get off blocks,
Speaker 1: there's times that he doesn't finish. There's I mean, there's
Speaker 1: all these things about him that you love. The size,
Speaker 1: and you love the fact that he kind of plays
Speaker 1: all over the place and I think that these guys
Speaker 1: around him really help. This is a guy that if
Speaker 1: you pick him, you're hoping, I mean, you were really
Speaker 1: really hoping that that that he is, that that arrow
Speaker 1: was going that way, because there's because there's a lot
Speaker 1: of things about him that are just flat line. There's
Speaker 1: not a lot of things where you you know, you
Speaker 1: look at the size arrow up, but there's a lot
Speaker 1: of just flat line to below play where you go. Man,
Speaker 1: if I pick this guy, I'm gonna get fired. He's
Speaker 1: got the baseline traits. I don't see distinguishing traits. That's fair.
Speaker 1: I see Michael Brockers type of player who see and
Speaker 1: that's a go ahead. Well, I mean I think I
Speaker 1: think to take a little bit to get, you know,
Speaker 1: to where Brockers is now. But I think entering the league,
Speaker 1: I see those two players similar. Yeah, I just and
Speaker 1: I think Brockers is a great comparison. I just think
Speaker 1: I don't think he's gonna be like this freaky good player,
Speaker 1: but I think he's gonna Brocker's on tape, make more play. Yeah,
Speaker 1: overpower guys getting the backfield tackle for loss work on
Speaker 1: the Twins. I think the LSU probably gave a little
Speaker 1: more flexibility to do that, where at Alabama he's he's
Speaker 1: clogging things up home another bad scheme. I hate to
Speaker 1: compare anybody to like Vince Wilfork, but I think that
Speaker 1: he's gonna be that guy that just makes everybody on
Speaker 1: his defense look better. That's what he did at Alabama.
Speaker 1: Give me Charon Reid. Okay, if you're gonna take a guy,
Speaker 1: give me some. Give me some underrated guys. Now underrated guys.
Speaker 1: All right, um, let's talk about Let'll just do it
Speaker 1: because I have a strong opinion on this guy, DeVante Booker, underrated,
Speaker 1: underrated running back. What's the medical you heard? I need
Speaker 1: to ask about his medical I have not yet heard
Speaker 1: confirmed reports, but I've heard good stuff. I've heard the
Speaker 1: knees looking good. Um, I'm still waiting on you know,
Speaker 1: I need to do that. Not it's looking good. I
Speaker 1: want to hear it is. Yeah, it is good. You know.
Speaker 1: As soon as I hear that, I'll feel a lot better.
Speaker 1: But you know, to me, DeVante Booker is the third
Speaker 1: best running back in his strap. So to me, I mean,
Speaker 1: if if teams look at him as not a top
Speaker 1: five or six running back in this Draffle then absolutely
Speaker 1: he's being underrated. And to talk about to your top three,
Speaker 1: it would be Ezekiel Henry and Booker would be the
Speaker 1: third guide exactly. I don't Booker as a guy in
Speaker 1: the third round. Where early third round, That's where I'm
Speaker 1: looking at him. Um, you know right, probably inside the
Speaker 1: top seventy five picks. He's a pinball. The way he's
Speaker 1: able to create his own yardage. He can help you
Speaker 1: out as a film's good. I just hopefully holds up
Speaker 1: he's good. I know people talk about his age. I
Speaker 1: don't care about his age. To me, the same thing
Speaker 1: about Terence Newman. He's still playing in the league. Everybody's like,
Speaker 1: you're comparing running back to I just telling about age.
Speaker 1: Sometimes we get a little call up. Some guys get
Speaker 1: beat to hell on every play, and some guys just
Speaker 1: saying the age age of Terd Snowman. The age thing
Speaker 1: for running backs. Brandon Wheedon was another one maybe went
Speaker 1: the other way. If I'm drafting running back on the
Speaker 1: third round, I'm worried about his first contract. I'm not
Speaker 1: getting overly worried about Okay, is he gonna be worried
Speaker 1: signing in that that second contract I'm worried about this
Speaker 1: first four years with my team, and so Booker being
Speaker 1: twenty four years old doesn't bother me. Yeah, this gets
Speaker 1: a good player. Just run, dude, just run, just hopefully
Speaker 1: at knee checks out. Yeah. Um, tell me about Willie Beavers.
Speaker 1: See he's now. Now that sounded like a tell me more.
Speaker 1: He's not a tell me more. Yeah, he's an underrated guy. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was not a Willie Beavers fan at all. I'm
Speaker 1: just not. I don't see it with him, and it
Speaker 1: has nothing to do with where he comes from. I
Speaker 1: just didn't see a guy that that that I'd want
Speaker 1: to develop, right that, didn't see enough traits with him.
Speaker 1: I didn't see a guy that could sit down on guys.
Speaker 1: Didn't see a guy that moved all that. Well. He
Speaker 1: bothered me. Yeah, because everybody's I mean, Mayok had him
Speaker 1: as one of his top five guys, you know, and
Speaker 1: I was like, going, man, Mike, I mean, who are
Speaker 1: you talking to here? And it Gill has him as
Speaker 1: an underrated guy. That's and that's a good point not
Speaker 1: to jump ahead another guy that and we don't have
Speaker 1: to do all these another guy, another guy Gil has
Speaker 1: as underrated as Cody Whitehair, which on this show we loved.
Speaker 1: We might hear, yeah, yeah, absolutely. But with Beavers, I
Speaker 1: I don't see a future NFL starter. I think he
Speaker 1: can come in and provide depth at tackle and guard.
Speaker 1: But I don't see a guy that you're gonna trust
Speaker 1: leaving out on an island as your starter. I'll tell
Speaker 1: you what he have the Senior Bowl, giving up the corner,
Speaker 1: getting beat inside, gets over extended. Yeah, you know, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna let somebody else be a hero on that one.
Speaker 1: That's not gonna be men be fired. We see, I'm
Speaker 1: the same. Yeah, oh you got there. Dave a lot
Speaker 1: of offensive linemen on this list. Jill loves his offensive
Speaker 1: line Germaine Effetti, the Texas A and M guard guard
Speaker 1: guard played right tackle. He's gonna, I mean, he's gonna
Speaker 1: go in the second rounds. I don't know how underrated
Speaker 1: he is. He might go first round, but when it's
Speaker 1: all said and done, because the guy hit his long
Speaker 1: arms and his feet are outstanding. Yeah, and he could
Speaker 1: sit down on people now too, when people rushing to
Speaker 1: get into him, he could just anchor down. And that's
Speaker 1: that's pretty impressive about that. I don't know, I don't
Speaker 1: the techniques a mess. Um. I don't trust necessarily what
Speaker 1: he sees. Um. I'm not as high as a lot
Speaker 1: of people out of fetti. I have an early third
Speaker 1: round grade on him. I think you're being nice. Where
Speaker 1: do you foot him? I put him in the fourth? Okay, see,
Speaker 1: but he's gonna go top fifty. I mean he the
Speaker 1: best thing about it. I thought he's just sticking at
Speaker 1: my notes. He's a catcher. He does it punch, but
Speaker 1: he can sit down. He has a hard time extending
Speaker 1: on blocks when the plague continues on. He has a
Speaker 1: hard time standard position. I didn't think he was very
Speaker 1: strong inside, but things on the outside he was okay
Speaker 1: if if the man got his shoulder. He had trouble
Speaker 1: adjusting right. And that's why, and that's probably why he
Speaker 1: has to play inside a guard. We talk about length
Speaker 1: a lot, and he has it. He has long arms.
Speaker 1: But if you don't have timing right, length means nothing
Speaker 1: front offensive tackles, so and he doesn't have the timing right. Now.
Speaker 1: They try to at left tackle in the spring. He
Speaker 1: couldn't do it. Had to go back to right tackle.
Speaker 1: He might be a right tackle only in the league.
Speaker 1: So there are some things that I worry about. But
Speaker 1: I don't know he's gonna go top fifty. I don't
Speaker 1: think that's underrating him. Yeah he had length. Yeah, that's length, coach,
Speaker 1: that's try coach Garrett. All right, well, thanks Dave, I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Speaking of coach Garrett, Yeah, he's in Columbus. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's why we're gonna get Yeah. Thanks, we're gonna get
Speaker 1: to that, Okay. Yeah, when we come back, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our first break, and then we'll tidy up some
Speaker 1: news that we're here and and then also get into
Speaker 1: some Twitter on the twenty. So stay tuned. You're listening
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Speaker 1: all that very very much. We've got a couple of
Speaker 1: opportunities here for you. Dame Bugler has put out a
Speaker 1: guide that I think is outstanding, chalk full of information, pictures,
Speaker 1: all kinds of stuff. He's gonna show you everything he's
Speaker 1: got right there. So sixty the top prospects Stane. Where
Speaker 1: can I find this it on Amazon dot com? Uh?
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Speaker 1: store shelves this week, hopefully Barnes and Noble and all
Speaker 1: those places I sell books. Uh. This is for a
Speaker 1: more casual fan here. It cares about the first few rounds.
Speaker 1: But then you know that that's it. A lot of
Speaker 1: cool pictures, a lot of in depth and then I've
Speaker 1: got you know, my My Beast pdf coming out. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll talk about that too. That's April fourth, a week
Speaker 1: from monday. Yeah, and that's that's gonna go four hundred
Speaker 1: prospects deep with you know everything, all kinds of details
Speaker 1: on everyone. I mean that you just can't find any
Speaker 1: more information. Yeah, it is. It is a must when
Speaker 1: we do the draft. I'm up to two over two
Speaker 1: hundred and fifty players now and thinking I know majority
Speaker 1: of the guys. But I promise you when we get
Speaker 1: together for the draft those three days, I will have
Speaker 1: Dane's Draft guide in front of me. Bus I'll have
Speaker 1: Dane in front of me too talking about this. So
Speaker 1: and also uh Star Magazine Dallas Cowboys dot Com. Star
Speaker 1: magazine comes out, We're gonna have this. So we're putting
Speaker 1: this together right now. We're putting together the players, articles, stories,
Speaker 1: a lot of good features. David Helm and Nick Eatman,
Speaker 1: Rob Phillips, a lot of various folks work very hard
Speaker 1: on this one to make it what it is. So
Speaker 1: those to print on April the eighth. This will be
Speaker 1: right before the draft. This will come out right for
Speaker 1: the joy. This is last year's edition. So but yeah,
Speaker 1: make sure you grab that Star magazine and then also
Speaker 1: Dane Brugler's Elite sixty and then his PDF file will
Speaker 1: be out April fourth. Marcus Peters, Yeah, who's the one
Speaker 1: who had the mock draft, who had Byron Jones correctly
Speaker 1: mocked Byron Jones to the Cowboys, Thank you very much.
Speaker 1: If they had drafted my guy, they would have had
Speaker 1: eight more picks. They might have had eight more picks.
Speaker 1: You're right about that. Okay, uh, let's say thank you
Speaker 1: so much. I would say thank you too, ed K Hill,
Speaker 1: ed K Hill, thank you so much, Ed for coming
Speaker 1: up with this segment. It is Twitter. Thank you. J
Speaker 1: K Garrison dj K Garrison feeling it today. Okay, Dave,
Speaker 1: starting all right, start out Philippe wants to know about
Speaker 1: Miles Jack. We talked about him in the mail bag
Speaker 1: this morning. He wants to know if it's possible that
Speaker 1: Jack falls the thirty four. I don't really think that's possible,
Speaker 1: so I'm gonna alter the question and ask how far
Speaker 1: do you think Jack's knee problems could potentially drop him.
Speaker 1: It's tough. Everybody's Scott. He going to Jacksonville at five.
Speaker 1: I haven't seen him outside the top then yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if there's you know, if teams are worried about
Speaker 1: there are multiple teams concerned. I mean that I had
Speaker 1: a scouting director flat out tell me he's not on
Speaker 1: our draft board until we get the medical recheck information.
Speaker 1: Once we get that information and it's great, we'll put
Speaker 1: him on the board. Up until then, he's not there.
Speaker 1: April first is his pro day and then the rechecks
Speaker 1: shortly after that, So keep your ears. April first is
Speaker 1: his run. He already did his pro day, right, He'll
Speaker 1: probably have some people work him out, so yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: he could work out great, but then get some negative information.
Speaker 1: So even if he does work out just fine and
Speaker 1: impresses people on April first, he's not out of the
Speaker 1: woods yet right, Okay, Uh, this is a really good
Speaker 1: question from Martin that literally just came in. Uh. We
Speaker 1: know that the Joneses as well as Will McClay and
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett went to Orlando to watch Paxson Lynch workout right,
Speaker 1: pretty telling indicator. Would it surprise you to see him
Speaker 1: go for meaning? Did the Cowboys have to work out
Speaker 1: a trade to justify picking him? Or if I mean,
Speaker 1: can you see him going that high? We've said this
Speaker 1: all along, I think have been consistent about the quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: Whoever that is it. We'll see if if in fact
Speaker 1: this draft falls where Cleveland doesn't take a quarterback. I
Speaker 1: saw a tweet yesterday where Dane was saying, Hey, the
Speaker 1: signing of RG three has nothing, nothing means nothing mean.
Speaker 1: Dane is locked into what's going on in Cleveland. They like,
Speaker 1: if they like a quarterback at two, they're taking a
Speaker 1: quarterback at two. RG three is not going to change
Speaker 1: that at all. That doesn't mean that, I mean, for
Speaker 1: all we know, they and I don't know this. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they might not like Wentz or golf enough to take
Speaker 1: it too. But if they don't take a quarterback in two,
Speaker 1: it's not because of rg okay. Would that being said,
Speaker 1: if if a quarterback doesn't go it too, now you
Speaker 1: have the pick potentially, I mean unless San Diego Bayales.
Speaker 1: I worry about San Diego bayling here, by the way.
Speaker 1: I worry about them bailing a little bit. But the
Speaker 1: thing about him is, though, if they don't take a
Speaker 1: Quarterbett and all threeo's Quarbett, We're going to see how
Speaker 1: much they like these quarterbacks. I'm talking about the Cowboys.
Speaker 1: If it doesn't take, well, if Lynch is their guy,
Speaker 1: I they'll they got him. I don't see. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm saying though. That's what if Lynch ends up being
Speaker 1: their top guy. And I know everybody out there is
Speaker 1: cringing and panicking and all that, but it's them. It's there,
Speaker 1: It's that's their board. We could talk about this all day.
Speaker 1: But the fact that Jerry Jones showed, now that all
Speaker 1: the quarterbacks worked out the combine, which Jerry saw, but
Speaker 1: the fact that Jerry went with the group to Orlando
Speaker 1: to see the workout himself, I think it's a little
Speaker 1: bit of a telling sign. I just think that the
Speaker 1: Cowboys think they're they they think they're smarter than that.
Speaker 1: Like I think that they'll try to find a way
Speaker 1: to have their cake and eat it too. If that's
Speaker 1: what they want to do. I think they'll try to
Speaker 1: take Lynch later. Yeah, there's no doubt man. Yeah, Travis
Speaker 1: Frederick situation. Yeah about Yeah. I mean you're a Lynch guy.
Speaker 1: I have been. I have been a Lynch guys today
Speaker 1: like them enough at four, you know what, I have
Speaker 1: guys over him at four meet me personally. I've got
Speaker 1: the Jacks and the Elliotts and guys like that. That's
Speaker 1: me right this. We're gonna see what their board says.
Speaker 1: If Lynch is the guy that they want, I don't
Speaker 1: think he'll to pick it for I think they'll have
Speaker 1: to find a way out of it, or I hope so,
Speaker 1: or I mean, or take somebody else at four. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they absolutely have to pick there, I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's interesting. The drafts all about getting the guys that
Speaker 1: you want, you know, and stick. They don't care what
Speaker 1: we think. No, no, no, of course they're gonna take
Speaker 1: wherever they really, No, but they dam it. They need
Speaker 1: to care influencing these guys. They should care what the
Speaker 1: rest of the league things. Yeah, because the drafts about
Speaker 1: value and if the rest of the league doesn't view
Speaker 1: packson Lynch as a top ten guy, well then they
Speaker 1: can move back and get packson Lynch elsewhere and pick
Speaker 1: up more picks. You have, absolutely yes, you can't. But
Speaker 1: but the thing about, okay, if they paint this scenario,
Speaker 1: if they can't get out of the pick, right, if
Speaker 1: all of a sudden and I've lived this where the
Speaker 1: phones don't ring and that's you and you're watching that
Speaker 1: clock it happened, and you know, you're listening to Berman
Speaker 1: and everybody else talk and the clock's just ticking away.
Speaker 1: You're going that phone a ring, And well you could,
Speaker 1: I mean, you could use the Travis Frederick argument argument
Speaker 1: the opposite way they do, which I mean they didn't
Speaker 1: get value for that pick. Thirty one was probably too
Speaker 1: high to take Frederick, but they like their guy and
Speaker 1: they hung in there. So I mean, if he's really
Speaker 1: their guy, maybe whatever, just take him all. Just be
Speaker 1: ready if that phone doesn't ring, and you trust me,
Speaker 1: I've lived this, sure, I've lived with a phone doesn't ring.
Speaker 1: It's a sick feeling when you you know, but these
Speaker 1: trades are gonna be made on the clock, y because
Speaker 1: somebody's gonna say, my guy's there, I'm worried about somebody
Speaker 1: behind Dallas taking my guy. This is a fantastic segue
Speaker 1: for a question from Cam. Everything the Cowboys have done
Speaker 1: to this point, it seems it's like the long play
Speaker 1: the free agency, filling holes for the draft. Drafting a
Speaker 1: quarterback would be a long play for the future. Can
Speaker 1: Jason Garrett afford to worry about the long play that is?
Speaker 1: That is a very fair question. Absolutely, that is a
Speaker 1: very fair question. And sometimes you have to sit there
Speaker 1: and think, are we drafting a guy? Look what happened
Speaker 1: in Washington. Look at the commitment they made to RG three,
Speaker 1: and then you get a coaching change. Sure, what happens there?
Speaker 1: All those Bounty of picks that go away, they're now
Speaker 1: in Saint Laura to the rams at La Rams. You know,
Speaker 1: maybe those are picks that you could have had. Those
Speaker 1: could be players on your team. So you have to
Speaker 1: your think you don't want to believe that, But Jerry
Speaker 1: Jones and Stephen Jones have to think, like, Okay, if
Speaker 1: we make a coaching change here, right, are we gonna
Speaker 1: is this quarterback going to be screwed? Yeah? If we're Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you're getting to be nice about it. You're gonna
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback. It almost gives Garrett a leash because
Speaker 1: you want to pair the quarterback with the coach and
Speaker 1: the offensive system, and you know what's being taught, what's
Speaker 1: being coached. So if you draft a quarterback this year,
Speaker 1: especially early in the first two rounds, then I think
Speaker 1: it gives Garrett. You're making the commitment. Yeah, you're making
Speaker 1: the commitment. Yeah that is It's a very good question. Um,
Speaker 1: all right, Hector wants to know. This is my favorite
Speaker 1: storyline of the whole draft. But Hector Cowboys signed Alfred
Speaker 1: Morris on Monday. Hector still believes Zeke should be the pick.
Speaker 1: Where do we stand on Zeke? Now that the Cowboys
Speaker 1: have kind of addressed running back in free agency, the
Speaker 1: question of all ze Zeke questions are gonna get answered.
Speaker 1: I just love talking about it. I didn't think Zeke
Speaker 1: would be the pick at four before Alfred morrissigned. Agree,
Speaker 1: and I you think consistent. Definitely don't think it's gonna
Speaker 1: be now. I mean, you can make your argument he's
Speaker 1: a fourth best player or he will be the best
Speaker 1: player available when they pick. But again, with the way
Speaker 1: this team views the offensive line. I just feel that
Speaker 1: they they think they can put in just anyone back
Speaker 1: there and be productive. And so I still think they
Speaker 1: address a running back position at some point during the draft,
Speaker 1: But I feel even more strongly now that I won't
Speaker 1: see So you wouldn't you. You wouldn't take Zeke over Bosa.
Speaker 1: You wouldn't take Zeke over Golf Me personally, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean it's tough because BOTHA I don't know I'm taking.
Speaker 1: I'm sticking to my board and I'm taking you know, Jack,
Speaker 1: I'm taking Ramsey. I'm taking Bosa above Zeke. Quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: a different animal. Can I ask you a question real quick?
Speaker 1: Address you think that Ramsey's a better safety, don't you know?
Speaker 1: There's no question. Yeah, there's guys in the league that
Speaker 1: think that too, And I believe this that we might
Speaker 1: see them thinking that Ramsey is a is a corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And just like a lot of teams, I think it's
Speaker 1: split really yet. And I think this team, you know,
Speaker 1: to your point, is on the cornerback size. They see
Speaker 1: a corner and and if you're going to draft a
Speaker 1: player fourth overall, that's that's that's tough. See. I think
Speaker 1: I would take I think that actually, if you ask me,
Speaker 1: Hardgraves is a better corner prospect than what Ramsey is
Speaker 1: playing corner. Yeah, I think it's debatable. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I don't think it's I don't think it's slam dunk
Speaker 1: either way, I think it can make a strong Kay,
Speaker 1: how about this, would you could you say? Could you say, uh,
Speaker 1: maybe Apple? I mean I think they're better corners that
Speaker 1: are gonna be taken in the first round. Yeah, And
Speaker 1: you could definitely make that argument because Ramsey doesn't have
Speaker 1: a lot of true experience at corner. But I do
Speaker 1: think he'll get better at it. So I worry about
Speaker 1: a lot of things with Hardgraves and a lot of
Speaker 1: things with Apple. So those guys aren't, you know, the
Speaker 1: snow slam dunk exactly. So with Ramsey, you're getting size,
Speaker 1: you're getting length, you're getting speed, you're getting a sick
Speaker 1: athlete who should get better at the corner position. But
Speaker 1: I think you're taking him away from what he does best,
Speaker 1: and that's you know, I'll put him in the nickel,
Speaker 1: put him as in a safety versatile don't don't lock
Speaker 1: him into an outside corner position. And good, great point.
Speaker 1: I mean that sounds like what we talked about with Apple,
Speaker 1: which is that if you're drafting him to play corner,
Speaker 1: it's way more about his potential than anything that you've seen,
Speaker 1: because this corner tape is not anything impressive. I like
Speaker 1: a safety tape a lot better. Right. Having said that,
Speaker 1: I was going, oh, well again, if there's a silver lining,
Speaker 1: it's that I would have I would imagine that Jalen
Speaker 1: Ramsey would fill that role for this team as a
Speaker 1: rookie at least. Yeah. I mean he's not going to
Speaker 1: be well, they'll plug and play. They've proven that well.
Speaker 1: But I don't think he's not. He's not one of
Speaker 1: the two outside corners as a rookie on this team.
Speaker 1: Maybe in year two or three, but I will see
Speaker 1: it would be it'd be interesting to see what happens
Speaker 1: if they do pick him in what they do with
Speaker 1: cars And I'm not I'm not cutting contract. I'm just saying,
Speaker 1: would he be the starter? Would they give him the
Speaker 1: opportunity tunity, throw him in the deep end and let
Speaker 1: him swim or sink, and knowing that they have cars
Speaker 1: because Scandrick's gonna start on the other side, I think
Speaker 1: the blueprint for what they did with Byron is so good, Like,
Speaker 1: why why I go away from that? It worked really well.
Speaker 1: Aaron Jones better Corner than Ramsey coming out interesting? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think so. I think he was. I said it
Speaker 1: on Twitter this morning. I thought he was. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: more I thought he's more experienced at corner, much more
Speaker 1: comfortable there than Ramsey than what we saw this past
Speaker 1: year from Ramsey at Corner. Yeah, Ramsey's so darned good.
Speaker 1: He is good. I mean, I'm not hurting the guy.
Speaker 1: I mean him just saying that when he has a
Speaker 1: chance to you know, when he's facing the action, has
Speaker 1: a chance to process it, bite and make things happen. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean he's so good at that, rather than turning
Speaker 1: when he has to turn his head and try to
Speaker 1: find the ball set. That's that's all well said. All right,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm answering this just because of the guy's name.
Speaker 1: It's not just his name, but his handle is actually
Speaker 1: Joe and Flower Mountains love Joe and Flower Mount actual
Speaker 1: Joe and Flower mount wants to know if Dez two
Speaker 1: point zero is out of the question completely, like we haven't.
Speaker 1: He's my favorite, Well, he's my favorite guy, but he's
Speaker 1: kind of fallen off the radar because you look at
Speaker 1: it and it doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
Speaker 1: It doesn't make a lot of Maybe feel any differently.
Speaker 1: He's gonna run on Monday, sure, So I'll tell you
Speaker 1: what though, the fact that we feel good about second
Speaker 1: round talent wide receivers makes it a little easier to say, Treadwell,
Speaker 1: I hope you're not playing in the NFC East. If
Speaker 1: you're a Cowboy fan, I don't want him end up
Speaker 1: in New York or Philadelphia one of those places. Does
Speaker 1: he do anything? I'm sorry, Dan, No, He's the biggest
Speaker 1: thing working against him is speed, death, the depth of
Speaker 1: the draft depth a wide receiver, you know, in the
Speaker 1: second round you can get a guy that you know
Speaker 1: for this team would be a number two. You know
Speaker 1: Treadwell is gonna be a number two for this team.
Speaker 1: If you was to pick up four, you can find
Speaker 1: a number two in a second Maybe once we started
Speaker 1: working through this draft and you figured out that Dotson's,
Speaker 1: the Colemans, the thomas Is, those guys who all could
Speaker 1: very well go the end of the first round. Does
Speaker 1: Treadwell do anything for you if you're picking at twelve
Speaker 1: instead of four absolutely. Yeah, I mean you feel better
Speaker 1: about it there, and why not because you've eliminated, You've
Speaker 1: probably looking at you're probably looking at loss and then
Speaker 1: as a defensive ent. Yeah, that's probably what you're looking at. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Treadwell is number six on my board, so I think
Speaker 1: very highly of him. Um if he's on the board
Speaker 1: for me and then you know, somewhere at pick twelve
Speaker 1: to fifteen, yeah, absolutely, I'm definitely consider around interesting to
Speaker 1: see again. He I I'm a sucker for the offensive guys.
Speaker 1: I just Treadwell and Zeke or my guys, what if
Speaker 1: he runs of four to six two, I'm kind of
Speaker 1: looking at the tape and just thinking that's what heats.
Speaker 1: I don't exactly I'm watching him. I'm watching play in
Speaker 1: the sec. I'm watching play against good corners. I'm the
Speaker 1: I'm watching play make plays against the floor to kids
Speaker 1: who everybody's talking about in the first round. I'm watching
Speaker 1: him talking he's making plays against Alabama kids talked about
Speaker 1: you know that und forty. As long as he can
Speaker 1: do it, as long as he can, and I don't
Speaker 1: think the thing it makes you, the thing it makes
Speaker 1: you kind of turn away from him is the fact
Speaker 1: that you do have guys at the top of the
Speaker 1: second like we talked about, Coleman can run, Dotson can run,
Speaker 1: the kid Fuller can run, and they they feel a
Speaker 1: receiver type that. I mean, you already have amplimentary player,
Speaker 1: have Dez. You don't really need one. It would be fun, yeah,
Speaker 1: but you don't really need it. Was a nice thought
Speaker 1: when we started the draft show many months ago. He's
Speaker 1: still my favorite player in this Yeah. Yeah, um, he's
Speaker 1: your favorite player probably him, Him and Zeke and and
Speaker 1: I'm Miles Jack if he's healthy. Those those three are
Speaker 1: probably like, those are the guys that I like watching
Speaker 1: the most. Three of the best players in this class,
Speaker 1: no doubt. Uh is Ronald Michael wants to know. Is
Speaker 1: Ronald Blair going to be there in the fourth round?
Speaker 1: Where do you think he's going? What's your thoughts on him?
Speaker 1: I think he could. He didn't have a great combine. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but the tape is just to me, it's just too good.
Speaker 1: I agree. I mean you want national, well, national, national, well,
Speaker 1: National championship. Uh runner up was Clemson? Yeah, you would
Speaker 1: you would draft him in the first shround just watching
Speaker 1: the Clemson tape. Yeah, you know, and people offensive line's
Speaker 1: not very good? Did you factor that? And then as well?
Speaker 1: But it is a you know, yeah, well there's a
Speaker 1: lot of guys. There's a lot of guys that we
Speaker 1: could say that about. We're going up again. Absolutely, No,
Speaker 1: I think we're on the same page with Blair. We
Speaker 1: see what second round player? Yeah, I mean the guy
Speaker 1: that you're gonna consider in the second round. But yeah,
Speaker 1: talking to people run the league, I don't I don't
Speaker 1: get the same type of excitement about him. Now. Maybe
Speaker 1: teams are just being coy the guys that I talked to,
Speaker 1: and all it takes is one team to love him
Speaker 1: and he could be off the board in the second
Speaker 1: or third round. I think he could be available in
Speaker 1: early for I like him better than Calhoun and Opa.
Speaker 1: Does that make self? Those are consensus like second round
Speaker 1: type of guys. Yeah, so you're saying, no, I don't
Speaker 1: think Dan's right. Somebody could if he's there. Let me
Speaker 1: tell you what if we're sitting here talking on day
Speaker 1: two and all of a sudden he's picked by somebody
Speaker 1: in the third round, I'm gonna go, you know what,
Speaker 1: they they hit one there? I mean, what this from
Speaker 1: conversation we had before we came down here to do this.
Speaker 1: You were project you, you were big on Frank Clark
Speaker 1: out of Michigan had him as like a late type
Speaker 1: of guy, mostly because of his off field issues obviously. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but went in the third round all of a sudden, No,
Speaker 1: what happen? Yeah, it was late seconds put out that magazine.
Speaker 1: We put this magazine out. I had him in the
Speaker 1: mock draft in the seven seventh round, and he went
Speaker 1: and then that and that, and that was the sixties.
Speaker 1: That was because all of a sudden, I was worried
Speaker 1: about the off field stuff, and then all that cleared
Speaker 1: to a point, and next thing you know, he's on
Speaker 1: the third round on some people's boards here. All it
Speaker 1: takes is one team. Yeah, I'm with you on mine.
Speaker 1: I got have Blair, then Oak, but then Calhoun. So
Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. So the answers, No, he
Speaker 1: won't be there in the fourth I think, I mean,
Speaker 1: we love him, but I don't get the same type
Speaker 1: of vibe vibe from people I talked to around the league.
Speaker 1: Uh that he's as well. There are not a lot
Speaker 1: of rushers in this league, Yes, I mean, and a
Speaker 1: lot of rushers in this draft. And people are gonna say,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll take a crack at this kid.
Speaker 1: I think his combine's gonna scare some people off because
Speaker 1: it wasn't a great combine, and so I think that
Speaker 1: might hurt hurt it, opposite of Mike Mamula, who had
Speaker 1: a great combine. I'm not buying into that, but I
Speaker 1: like some team's gonna benefit from teams overthinking the combot
Speaker 1: his combine. Good team. All right, Dan, I got one
Speaker 1: for you, as the residenti Ohio and motive pet I
Speaker 1: hope I pronounced that right. This is a good point
Speaker 1: because I mean, we've had quarterback penciled to the Browns
Speaker 1: since this thing started. Uh is it? You think it's possible? Basically,
Speaker 1: he wants to know if Ramsey or Bosa winds up there.
Speaker 1: But just in general, I mean, are we are we
Speaker 1: assuming too much that that pick is going to be
Speaker 1: a quarterback? I mean, well, I don't think we're assuming.
Speaker 1: I mean just have to look at the Browns and
Speaker 1: what they've done. I mean, look at the Jered Goff
Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz their pro days. Who was showing the
Speaker 1: most interest Hugh Jackson, pet Hamilton, the offensive minds for
Speaker 1: the Browns. I mean they were from everything from putting
Speaker 1: water on the on the footballs to helping or you know,
Speaker 1: to direct some of the throws they were making. So
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously Browns are showing interest in these top quarterbacks.
Speaker 1: So it's not a mirage that they're going to consider
Speaker 1: one of these guys is at the top. But if
Speaker 1: they don't. The way they're building the Browns, they're not
Speaker 1: they don't feel like they have to take a quarterback
Speaker 1: this year. They are fine with waiting until next year,
Speaker 1: especially now that they have RG three and year old.
Speaker 1: So if they don't love Wentz or Golf or another
Speaker 1: one of these quarterbacks, then they're not going to take them.
Speaker 1: They don't feel pressed to do so. But you know
Speaker 1: Hugh Jackson the way he thinks, I still think he's
Speaker 1: going to like one of these guys enough. Where quarterbacks
Speaker 1: are going to be the pick. I think quarterbacks are
Speaker 1: overwhelming favorite to be that number two. Cowboys Nation would
Speaker 1: like register an earthquake on the seismograph if Joey Bosa
Speaker 1: was the second overall pick. Yeah, like they would be celebrating. Dane.
Speaker 1: Would Danes consider across me and throw his pin on
Speaker 1: the ground and be all mad you could pick for
Speaker 1: the Browns. All right, Dave, thank you so much for
Speaker 1: quitter on the twenty. Okay, we're gonna take our final break.
Speaker 1: When we come back, we're gonna play a little tell
Speaker 1: me more and finish up the show with some phone call.
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Speaker 1: left to ask your question. Urban Meyer tweeting out pictures
Speaker 1: this morning with guy's arm around the old red ball
Speaker 1: got his arm around him. Welcome to Ohio State. I
Speaker 1: just love that we were kind of commenting about this
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks ago, like these coaches have not
Speaker 1: been at these pro days, right, Like you know, I
Speaker 1: remember I went to ls US a couple of years
Speaker 1: ago and Gary Brown was there scouting Jeremy Hill. Wade
Speaker 1: Wilson went down to Baylor to scout Bryce Petty last year.
Speaker 1: That's a thing that coaches do. This year, they haven't
Speaker 1: been anywhere. Come to find out, it's because they're doing
Speaker 1: all this stuff privately, right They're all up there in
Speaker 1: Columbus right now doing their own which is I mean,
Speaker 1: it got it on their part for doing their due diligence.
Speaker 1: It's just kind of funny because it's you know, everybody
Speaker 1: else is at Pro Day, but the Cowboys are like
Speaker 1: too cool for Pro Day. I guess they got to
Speaker 1: schedule there. They get an owner with a really big,
Speaker 1: nice plane, they can fly them all over the place.
Speaker 1: And the fact that it'd give urban Meyer, his staff,
Speaker 1: his kids a lot of credit to a lot of
Speaker 1: people probably scurrying around heading different directions for Easter break
Speaker 1: and these kids showing up. It's important to them. A
Speaker 1: lot of the battle House state working out in California,
Speaker 1: working out in Florida, and so yeah, I know that's
Speaker 1: a it's a big deal for the Cowboys to get
Speaker 1: everyone there and in Columbus and refresher for everyone they can.
Speaker 1: There's unlimited private eatings. You know, there's the thirty here
Speaker 1: which will happen starting on April fourth and going through
Speaker 1: the seventh. Dallas Day will be on April eighth, right, exactly,
Speaker 1: So anyway all that could surth huh it's a week away. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all right, does it start? Maybe we'll start time to
Speaker 1: start creeping around, creeping around Valley Ranch because next year
Speaker 1: at the start, we won't get the creeping too much. Okay.
Speaker 1: One of my favorite segments that we've created on this
Speaker 1: show is something that David Helmett has. It's called tell
Speaker 1: me more than I need to watch Grease one of
Speaker 1: these days. All right. I saw and I've I've heard
Speaker 1: this guy's name a few times. I had to look
Speaker 1: up how to pronounce it. He's kind of I saw
Speaker 1: him on Twitter this week. Tell me more about Maryland
Speaker 1: defensive end yannick Ing Walkway. I think I said that
Speaker 1: right to me. I see a three four backer. I
Speaker 1: think that's his best fit with his size. He doesn't
Speaker 1: have the longest arms, and I think that shows on tape.
Speaker 1: But he's quick, he can bend the edge. He's a
Speaker 1: great kid. I tested really well. But again I see
Speaker 1: more of a three four backer than a four three end. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Did you see this? Absolutely? Yeah. I was just you know,
Speaker 1: and going through because I was putting together stuff in
Speaker 1: the magazine and I was trying to figure out where
Speaker 1: I wanted to put him and end up putting him
Speaker 1: as an outside linebacker. I think that's a better fit
Speaker 1: when you look at him physically and all that, and
Speaker 1: what he can and what he can do that's andy
Speaker 1: or his numbers measurables. Yeah, and what I compared him
Speaker 1: to a smaller version of Tombaholly. That's how I saw
Speaker 1: hell of a football he is, and I think in
Speaker 1: Goha can be a good player, But again, I think
Speaker 1: he's better suited for a three to four where he
Speaker 1: can you know, operate in space and uh, you know,
Speaker 1: not forced to deal dage right about him though as
Speaker 1: far as the bend they capture the corner, those kinds
Speaker 1: of things. I mean, you could watch him against some
Speaker 1: pretty good competition with Maryland being in that big ten
Speaker 1: and knows some having to deal with some size offensive
Speaker 1: lines and stuff like that. So I would absolutely a
Speaker 1: guy that Again, I think Dan's right. He's an outside
Speaker 1: linebacker to me, probably more of a three four guy
Speaker 1: than he is a than he is a four three end.
Speaker 1: The signing of Alfred Morris has I mean, I just
Speaker 1: don't see a premium pick being spent on a running back,
Speaker 1: So I want to know more about Cal running back
Speaker 1: Daniel Lasco. Daniel Lasco, I watched him a little bit
Speaker 1: during the season, but then when I saw him at
Speaker 1: the Shrine game with my own eyes, he impressed me
Speaker 1: and really athletic player. And I showed it at the
Speaker 1: combine and he blew it up. The biggest thing with
Speaker 1: him is the durability. Hasn't be able to stay healthy. Um.
Speaker 1: This past year as a senior he only started three games.
Speaker 1: But last but the year before was a junior, Uh,
Speaker 1: he was fantastic. He had over eleven hundred yards. He
Speaker 1: had thirty three catches. Um. He can do a lot
Speaker 1: of things for you, but he's an interesting complimentary back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this guy is a slam bam runner. And I say,
Speaker 1: I like that. That's what I want. You know, a
Speaker 1: guy hand him the football. I think that he's more
Speaker 1: of a straight line guy. I don't see the ball
Speaker 1: getting out on the edge, but you hand it to
Speaker 1: him between the tackles, he'll bang around in there and
Speaker 1: he'll get some yards. I just looking at my notes,
Speaker 1: he's one of those guys that gets what's blocked. That's
Speaker 1: kind of how I described his game. Great here. Yeah
Speaker 1: it's little and I will say this, so he one
Speaker 1: thing that he had a little problems on. I always
Speaker 1: look great pass protection, tends to lunch a little bit.
Speaker 1: You gotta watch him. Maybe not more the complete back,
Speaker 1: but again, tough guy, run inside, gets what's blocked, bang
Speaker 1: off tacklers. Round. Where did I have him on my board?
Speaker 1: I had him in the sixth round. That's where I
Speaker 1: got him. And another thing that this team will like
Speaker 1: about him to your captain, top notch intangibles. He was
Speaker 1: the cow Special Teams Player of the Year a couple
Speaker 1: of years ago. So a lot of the other stuff
Speaker 1: that teams really like. Six foot, two hundred and nine pounds,
Speaker 1: the combine. They worked him out as a wide receiver.
Speaker 1: Yeah really, yeah, he was asked to work out as
Speaker 1: a wide receiver. The speed is gonna be a four
Speaker 1: four four if you're scoring at eleven three project. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he's an athlete, but he's a straight line guy. Really
Speaker 1: really is? I mean, I like everybody, Cowboys need a
Speaker 1: center or in some depth on the interior line. Nick
Speaker 1: Martin would be a great story. It makes too much
Speaker 1: sense for me to believe it. Tell me more about
Speaker 1: Ryan Kelly, Ryan Kelly, Alabama, I think if you want him,
Speaker 1: he might have to get him at four because he could.
Speaker 1: I think he might go in the twenties. Dang. I
Speaker 1: think he's the clear cut top center in this draft.
Speaker 1: And for teams that need a starting center, a plug
Speaker 1: and play guy, this is it. I mean, this is
Speaker 1: who you want. So I think Ryan Kelly's gonna come
Speaker 1: off the board pretty quickly. He might not even be
Speaker 1: there at thirty four. Yeah. I think with Ryan Kelly,
Speaker 1: and this is a great crop of centers and the
Speaker 1: Cowboys are really maybe the decision not to keep Mackenzie
Speaker 1: Bernardo around might had a little bit to do with
Speaker 1: what they saw at the center guard. Me personally, I
Speaker 1: grabbed the center first and then trained him to be
Speaker 1: the guard. If you're looking for that swing guy right there,
Speaker 1: Dan's right though. This kid, Kelly, he's gonna be the
Speaker 1: first center off the board. The thing that I was
Speaker 1: really impressed with him was how he is able to
Speaker 1: when he played that wide three technique. He's athletic enough
Speaker 1: to snatch that three, get a position and then the
Speaker 1: ball and then you see Henry and those act strake
Speaker 1: go behind him because it's hard to you could snatch
Speaker 1: a one because he's inside on you, but a three's
Speaker 1: on the outside shoulder the guard. He could snap step,
Speaker 1: get in position and turn his body and allow the
Speaker 1: ball to come behind him so he could press the
Speaker 1: body control absolutely the point of attack strength to do that,
Speaker 1: and he has it. It's really smart. He's just been
Speaker 1: a model of consistency for Alabama last few years. So
Speaker 1: I think, yeah, he's a plug in place center and
Speaker 1: possible late first round pick. Yeah. Once again, he's six
Speaker 1: four three eleven pounds, five flat on the afford Ohio
Speaker 1: kids thirty four two rich to get that guy, I
Speaker 1: mean not, I mean I don't mean Kelly specifically. I
Speaker 1: had sixty seven in mind more for the center. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I had sixty because because what's gonna happen. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at that board, and if one of those receivers are there,
Speaker 1: or one of those corners are there, I want to starter. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I can't defensive end. I mean we can't maybe a quarterback, okay,
Speaker 1: but I can't be drafting depth at third four right right,
Speaker 1: I feel pretty comfortable saying Kelly will not be a
Speaker 1: Dallas cowboy. Yeah, No, he's right about that. He's right.
Speaker 1: How about a Brugler special because he plays at a
Speaker 1: school that people couldn't find on a map. We've talked
Speaker 1: about him before, Victor Och out of Stok. The mascot
Speaker 1: is Seawolves. The Sea Wolves exactly us his mascot. They
Speaker 1: were just in the tournament. Yeah they were, yeah, right really, yeah,
Speaker 1: there's basketball going on right now. What he's I wasn't
Speaker 1: expecting much because he's he's short, kind of stocky, but
Speaker 1: he has really long arms for a guy that's that's shorter,
Speaker 1: and so he's able to you know, sink and extend
Speaker 1: in the in the rushers and then work off of that. Um.
Speaker 1: I liked him a lot at the Shrine game. The
Speaker 1: tape I thought backed it up. Uh. A lot of
Speaker 1: teams are gonna write him off and not take him
Speaker 1: seriously because of the measurables, right, but I think there's
Speaker 1: a spot in the NFL for this this player. Yeah,
Speaker 1: the Bill Hall of Fame general manager Bill Polly, and
Speaker 1: this would be one of his guys. This would be
Speaker 1: Polly and loved to take those guys that were small
Speaker 1: school guys, couldn't sound stay. I mean, he this would
Speaker 1: be right down his I will say this though. The
Speaker 1: one thing about this guy that I really really liked
Speaker 1: is he doesn't stay blocked. And and I know you're
Speaker 1: playing against accountants from Elon and Howard and Maine and
Speaker 1: Coastal Carol. I mean, I understand, I understand, but he's
Speaker 1: talking about the Shrine game and that's an upset. That
Speaker 1: was a step up in competition. He had production there.
Speaker 1: I tell you what, man, this guy, though he's very active,
Speaker 1: he doesn't stay blocked. He has balanced He could really
Speaker 1: close it down from the backside. There's a lot of
Speaker 1: positive things about Victor Ochie and this up and very
Speaker 1: very unique player. It's I think you'd be a pastor specialist.
Speaker 1: All right. People don't want to hear this. Got one more.
Speaker 1: We gotta take some calls. People don't want to hear
Speaker 1: this because of how good the Cowboys line is. But
Speaker 1: tackle tackle is a spot of concern, I think, Um,
Speaker 1: so tell me more about George's John Thus you're like him.
Speaker 1: I'm not too terribly high on him, but I've watched
Speaker 1: him play against I say that. I say this with
Speaker 1: the like I this is not a this is a
Speaker 1: Day three guy, right? Oh yeah, Yeah, he's not gonna
Speaker 1: be a top one hundred player. But yeah, if you're
Speaker 1: looking for depth and on day three a guy that
Speaker 1: could possibly play left or right, you know, be a
Speaker 1: verse swing. Yeah, I don't think he's ever gonna be
Speaker 1: a starter. I just didn't get that impression. Doesn't need
Speaker 1: a starter right now. But eventually though, Yeah, eventually you
Speaker 1: want to get a guy they know, Well that's what
Speaker 1: you got Green four, Chaz Green. You're hoping that Chad
Speaker 1: lay yet, I know, but scares me. Yeah, but you know,
Speaker 1: to me, Green is a better prospect than what was
Speaker 1: coming out. So that's why. But yeah, I you know,
Speaker 1: I I'll tell you what. I like him. I do
Speaker 1: admire about him. At the Senior Bowl, when it came
Speaker 1: down to him and Spence, no, they and that was
Speaker 1: the practice over at Fair Hope. They were mean the
Speaker 1: this was like, okay, you're the best pass rusher. I'm
Speaker 1: just a guy. I went to a big school. But
Speaker 1: he was able to fight him pretty well and there
Speaker 1: was a lot of chippy pushing back and forth. You
Speaker 1: know the guy. The guy took a lot of pride
Speaker 1: in his ability to work against that guy. Round I
Speaker 1: had him more in the sixth round. Is where I
Speaker 1: had fifth sixth type round player. Yeah, I have a
Speaker 1: fifth six on him and round for Ochie. Sorry I
Speaker 1: forgot to say that round. I'm a bottom line kind
Speaker 1: of guy. You are a bottom line guy. I'm looking
Speaker 1: at Ochi right now. Where's my defensive ends? I have
Speaker 1: Ochi in the fourth Okay, you look more than nine?
Speaker 1: Do Ye Holmes, Ochie and Daddy Nicholas. Yeah, I have
Speaker 1: all my small guys in the fourth round here thirty
Speaker 1: five pounds. Yeah, a small guys. All those all the guys, Holmes,
Speaker 1: the kid from Montana, all those guys into two forty range.
Speaker 1: Here's some intriguing pass rushers, and you gotta find him.
Speaker 1: That's that's where we gotta find these guys. That's exactly
Speaker 1: Judons of the world. Matt Judon. There's a guy. How
Speaker 1: did Matt Judon go from two fifty to two seventy
Speaker 1: five at the combine? Yeah? He put on some weight. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Water Burger, Yeah, water Burger I always give We need
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Speaker 1: gonna turn this show over to you because I want
Speaker 1: to take some calls. We got about five minutes left
Speaker 1: and I want to grab some calls eight eight eight
Speaker 1: eight five five two two ninety seven. Everybody in the
Speaker 1: panel is doing well. Dane's a little tired because he's
Speaker 1: been putting out draft material for you guys, so can't
Speaker 1: take it away. Yeah, he's been holding for a while.
Speaker 1: We'll go to Blake and Delaware. Blake, you're on, Hey,
Speaker 1: what do you think about Von Miller? I'm sorry, Von
Speaker 1: Bell at thirty four? And in the tredyback scenario, what
Speaker 1: would you think about grabbing Darren Lee within the teens?
Speaker 1: And also what is your projection on Jalen Marshall? Thank you? Okay,
Speaker 1: some buck guys when all Buck you love Darren Ll
Speaker 1: tell us about Darren Lee. Brian, I'll tell you what
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not a part of trade back trade
Speaker 1: back in on Darren Lee, though I will, as you
Speaker 1: know on my draft board here as we show, I
Speaker 1: have Darren Lee and a colored means I need to
Speaker 1: redo him. I redid him yesterday, and I'm somebody else
Speaker 1: can have Darren Lee. You're out. I'm not out. I'm
Speaker 1: just saying the guy could run. All right, you're out.
Speaker 1: The guy can like him, you know I don't. I'm
Speaker 1: not a fan. All right, I'm not a fan of
Speaker 1: Darren Lee. I'll just say that I think the guy
Speaker 1: runs like a son of a gun. I think there's
Speaker 1: things that they do with in coverage with him that's
Speaker 1: that you can work with. I watch him blitz. I
Speaker 1: don't watch him do anything. I watch him miss tackles
Speaker 1: in the hole. You know, yeah, someone else he is.
Speaker 1: He is one of those guys that people are fired
Speaker 1: up about because he looks good and he watched the
Speaker 1: tape and he doesn't always play with a red shirt sophomore.
Speaker 1: So another young guy that you know. I don't like
Speaker 1: the potential thing. I don't like the project. I'll take
Speaker 1: Von Bell at thirty four. Yeah, we were just talking
Speaker 1: about that because we're talking about safeties. In this group.
Speaker 1: Ryan Ramsey's a top safety. Should put him on in safety.
Speaker 1: But after that, I mean, who's who's the next safety? Oh?
Speaker 1: I have von Bell and then Joseph and one two.
Speaker 1: I mean I have Ramsey, Bell and Joseph. Those from
Speaker 1: my top three. I think that's probably why Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: love Ramsey so much. And I know we just said
Speaker 1: that they might like him. Moore as a corner. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think Cowboys fans are in love with Ramsey because
Speaker 1: people have been wanting a safety for fifteen years. And
Speaker 1: if our buddy Darren Woodson absolutely and if you don't,
Speaker 1: if you don't draft Ramsey, then there aren't a lot
Speaker 1: of other guys seeing church and and and that's why,
Speaker 1: that's why Byron Joes is talking about playing safety. It's
Speaker 1: not a deep class, That's what I'm saying. Though. If
Speaker 1: you don't get this guy, then you're not going to
Speaker 1: feel that great about whoever you do get. With von Bell,
Speaker 1: I see a guy that does a lot of things
Speaker 1: pretty well. I don't think he does anything great, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he does everything pretty well. See field well, and
Speaker 1: he can cover over the slot. Um read react, it's
Speaker 1: all there. I don't know he's a special player. I
Speaker 1: don't see a future pro bowler. But he can start
Speaker 1: in this league, all right, can't. What do you got? Yeah,
Speaker 1: Andrew and Kansas Goad Andrew guys, Hey, what's up? Oh?
Speaker 1: Not a whole lot. My question pertains to our convenciatory picks.
Speaker 1: So we have yea with three sixes. Yeah, And I
Speaker 1: was just wondering who you guys like there and what
Speaker 1: their impact might be on the team. Thanks guys, Thank you, Andrew.
Speaker 1: All Right, you gotta pick it. The best one obviously
Speaker 1: is to one at one thirty five. Yeah, you got
Speaker 1: a guy. I mean, could we get our could we
Speaker 1: get could the Cowboys get their swing guard center at
Speaker 1: that spot? That's so okay. I mean it's so hard
Speaker 1: to predict. But all right, let's assume that they don't
Speaker 1: draft a quarterback at four. I think you probably got
Speaker 1: to take your quarterback at sixty seven. I know you
Speaker 1: were looking at that for your swing guy, those two
Speaker 1: fourth round picks. I think I think that's probably where
Speaker 1: your running back comes from, and probably and maybe your
Speaker 1: swing guy too, if I had to guess, I mean,
Speaker 1: just kind of looking at the way it plays out.
Speaker 1: Could Jonathan Williams follow you at that point there you
Speaker 1: go out of Arkansas? I'd love to see him there,
Speaker 1: I think talking about offensive line, Missouri's got a few kids. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Connor McGovern, I think would be a nice fit there.
Speaker 1: Who's he's played tackle, he's played guard. Um, I think
Speaker 1: he'd be a great fit at that point in the draft.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I think those comp pics are really gonna
Speaker 1: come in handy this year, no question. Yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with you on that too. I mean it's hard to
Speaker 1: predict who will be there in the three six is
Speaker 1: the last one being a two seventeen, and they don't
Speaker 1: have a seven, So what they might try and do
Speaker 1: is fill some numbers there unless they want to get back.
Speaker 1: I mean, you can't trade something very Cowboys like package, well,
Speaker 1: they can't trade them. So yeah, they're gonna trade at
Speaker 1: least once in this draft. I like, that's just a
Speaker 1: safe bet. All right, can't We're gonna take one more call.
Speaker 1: Who we came. We got Norman in Silver Spring. You're
Speaker 1: the last You're the last guy, Norman. Go ahead? All right, Hey, guys,
Speaker 1: thanks so much for taking my call. Um, So I
Speaker 1: was curious. I'm actually one of the few Cowboys fans
Speaker 1: to actually like Joey Bosay. Yeah, so I would prefer
Speaker 1: Jalen Ramsay, but in case is there, I was curious
Speaker 1: about eight player cup. I haven't heard. I haven't heard
Speaker 1: you guys to stop that. Cameron Jordan on the thing.
Speaker 1: I remember in twenty eleven Jordan came out and they
Speaker 1: were talking about how we dominated Senior Bully. I'd like,
Speaker 1: really good hand, here is really good technique and that's
Speaker 1: pretty much what I see him Bosa, so just care
Speaker 1: he is to see what you're against. Thoughts on that one, Okay,
Speaker 1: thank you very much, appreciate that. I was I misunderstand.
Speaker 1: I thought he said he hadn't heard a player comparison
Speaker 1: for Joey Bosa, and I got from us you gonna yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Greg Ellis gets talked about on this show
Speaker 1: like every freaking week, So yeah, he's so much better
Speaker 1: than um. I don't know what do you think Cam
Speaker 1: Jordan was taken in like the twenties though, So it's
Speaker 1: in terms of like draft prospects. It's hard. And I
Speaker 1: had a scout. I had a scout from another club
Speaker 1: tell me he this could be very similar to what
Speaker 1: Michael Strahan was. Yeah, I think that's fair when you
Speaker 1: talk about when you talk man Michael stray andrehands in
Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame as far as play played thin Okay,
Speaker 1: not being a not being a not being a coming
Speaker 1: in from Texas Southern, not being a dominating defensive end,
Speaker 1: and then he holds the single season sack records. I'm
Speaker 1: just telling you, I mean, yeah, it's no no with
Speaker 1: an asterix, No, no, you're talking to a guy that
Speaker 1: that everybody assumed, not assumes thinks I'm killing Bosa. I'm
Speaker 1: just giving you the other comparison that a scout that
Speaker 1: I really really like and trust from another team told me.
Speaker 1: He says, think about him potentially potentially as what Michael
Speaker 1: Strahand did for the Giant. Yeah, and I'm hearing similar things.
Speaker 1: Teams love Bosa, I mean because he's he's such a low,
Speaker 1: low floor, high floor type of guy. You know what
Speaker 1: you're getting with him. I've heard Strayhand Chris Long is
Speaker 1: a popular I don't think there's that one clear cut
Speaker 1: apples to Apple's camp, but there's a lot of these
Speaker 1: guys that make a lot of sense. Yeah, yeah, Strayhand,
Speaker 1: the Long, he's not JJ Watt, I mean exactly the bed. Uh.
Speaker 1: Maybe he's a smaller version, but you know, he shouldn't
Speaker 1: be comparative. I think his production is going to be
Speaker 1: when they play him inside a three technique. Sure, I
Speaker 1: think that's where when he if he gets sacks, it's
Speaker 1: gonna be because he's playing inside more so than on
Speaker 1: the outside, or if it's a hustle play or whatever
Speaker 1: like that. If he if he is what Dane says
Speaker 1: he is, I don't. I'm not even that concerned about
Speaker 1: his sack number. If he opens things up for everybody else,
Speaker 1: that's what he's exactly what he could do. Take I
Speaker 1: just I just compared him to a guy that didn't
Speaker 1: have a lot of sacks. No I know for the Cowboys,
Speaker 1: I know, but was a good player. This is all
Speaker 1: your fault. No, it's not a narratives. Bosa is gonna
Speaker 1: be a perfectly killed this guy. I just said he
Speaker 1: I don't think he's good a compliment because people care
Speaker 1: what you think. And so I retweeted that Garrett and
Speaker 1: urban Meyer photo, and like three different people were like,
Speaker 1: tell him not to draft Bosa, tell him not to
Speaker 1: do it. Only Cowboys fans hate Bosa. It's wonder why
Speaker 1: that is. It's not me, Dane. Don't be looking at
Speaker 1: me that way, sir. All right, all right, that's all
Speaker 1: the time we have for this week. But to thank
Speaker 1: everybody for the calls, Thank everybody for the tweets, Thank
Speaker 1: you guys for listening out there every week to us.
Speaker 1: We do appreciate that. Thirty four days until we get
Speaker 1: to do this for real. We'll be back next Friday.
Speaker 1: We'll have some more information we'll have the winding up
Speaker 1: of the Cowboys thirty visits. Maybe we can, uh I
Speaker 1: think at leak a few names or two. They might be,
Speaker 1: uh might be interesting to yoursel. Yeah, that's what I Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Brian Brown, thank you so much. We'll see you next
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