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Speaker 1: Welcome to Pretty Private with Ebane, a space where no

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Speaker 1: question is off limits and storylines become lifelines. The views

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Speaker 1: shared by our guests are meant to inform, entertain, and empower,

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Speaker 1: from the laughs to the lessons. Just remember, tough times

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Speaker 1: don't last, but professional home Girls do enjoy the show.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, I am super excited to have my

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Speaker 3: I think she's going to show what two or three

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Speaker 3: times by now the second time I'm dramatic. I gotta

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Speaker 3: keep the business relationship spicy.

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Speaker 2: But yes, this is Tip, my graphic illustrated for the

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Speaker 2: coloring books she came back on.

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Speaker 3: So we can talk about volume four because volume.

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Speaker 2: Four is available for pre order, the Professional Homegirl Coloring Book,

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Speaker 2: Volume four.

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Speaker 3: So Tip, how you doing? How you feeling happy New Year?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, trying to hit the new year off strong,

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Speaker 2: start twenty twenty six with a kick, a bang, anything possible. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: a good than a good one, not like these dramatic

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Speaker 3: Well, the scar is definitely on point. Tip, I can

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Speaker 3: tell you.

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Speaker 2: That I'm not really thank you. I don't seem not

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Speaker 2: a blimes society that Korean, that Korean skincare. What you're

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Speaker 2: doing like the ten steps? No, girl, I absolutely not.

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Speaker 2: I could do too. I washed my face and it's

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Speaker 2: like three steps. You wash your face, you put the

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Speaker 2: the serum on there, I mean, then put the moisturizer

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Speaker 2: and I'm done. I'm not doing it any more than that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I did a mass a couple of days ago.

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Speaker 3: So I love a good collagen face mask. Love love love,

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Speaker 3: m hm.

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Speaker 2: I did a little seaweed one, little out of seaweed.

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Speaker 3: You would do a seaweed one.

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Speaker 2: I'm trying to get it. I'm trying to be glowing

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Speaker 2: out here.

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Speaker 3: No, it was good.

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, thank you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, for sure. Well, thank you so much

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Speaker 3: for coming on.

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Speaker 2: So, like I said, we just released volume four of

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Speaker 2: the coloring Books, but before we start, I would be

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Speaker 2: remissing I didn't announce that we volume three was future

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Speaker 2: in Forbes, I would drop the link in the show

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Speaker 2: notes below. But Tip didn't know, which I don't know

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Speaker 2: how she didn't know, But then she told me how

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Speaker 2: she didn't know that she's taking a break in social media.

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Speaker 2: But I shared the article with you, and I know

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Speaker 2: you didn't have a chance to read it, but you

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Speaker 3: So what did you think.

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Speaker 2: I think it's great. I think a lot of people

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Speaker 2: are trying to stop being so digital. Yeah, I think

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Speaker 2: coloring books are definitely playing a part in that, because

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Speaker 2: you know, I color too, so I have like multiple

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Speaker 2: coloring books that I also color from, Like I have

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Speaker 2: puzzles that I do. I got my lego sets. So

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Speaker 2: I think a lot of people are really trying to

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Speaker 2: think the article says something about being more analog than

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Speaker 2: millennials are trying to tap back into that analog side,

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Speaker 2: and I think that's coloring books are helping, you know

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Speaker 2: ate that. Yeah, what does this recognition mean for you

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Speaker 2: as an illustrator being that your work is in Forbes,

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Speaker 2: which that's a flex. Don't raise the price on me,

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Speaker 2: but raise the price on the rest of these niggas.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even think about that until you said it,

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Speaker 2: So I was like, okay, girl, Like, yeah, you got informed.

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Speaker 2: So I mean that's cool. Yeah, I'm working on patting

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Speaker 2: myself on the back into in my own horn. I'm

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Speaker 2: terrible at it, So say I will acknowledge I got

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Speaker 3: Yeah, does this change the impact of your work, like

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Speaker 2: I would love to say that it does, but that

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Speaker 2: And like my testimonials like testimonial that you wrote.

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Speaker 3: Me, I wrote you on fire testremonial too.

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Speaker 2: Listen, my clients go up for me, like so many

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Speaker 2: shout out to her. She's the writer for the fourth piece.

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Speaker 2: I did it last year, and it's like I was

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Speaker 3: In my head little behind the scenes insider.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and so and the girl when I interviewed the

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Speaker 2: I was like, wow, I wonder why I never came

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Speaker 2: know if you saw this, and I was like, oh shit.

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Speaker 2: And what I really love about the article is because

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Speaker 2: I just want my work to be seen. So to

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Speaker 2: it's like that's a big deal. A little picture in

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Speaker 2: click them, it goes to the site. So make sure

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Speaker 2: But I don't know, Like it was just a good feeling,

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Speaker 2: if I'm being honest, I was talking to my cousin

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Speaker 2: my business because I feel like right now I'm just.

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Speaker 3: Me and my this is not seeing eye to eye.

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Speaker 2: But then I also feel like sometimes God give me

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Speaker 2: And I definitely feel like this coloring book is a

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Speaker 2: It's great. I mean, Book four was a time.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Book four was a time.

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Speaker 2: So walk me through your mindset when it comes to

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Speaker 2: illustrating Volume four, because for those who don't know, so,

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Speaker 2: idea is to sell it as a set. So if

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Speaker 2: four into the extension of volume three with twenty new

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Speaker 2: I really really loved volume four. But what was your

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Speaker 2: and when we say the content is explicit, like you

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Speaker 2: cannot be under eighteen with this coloring book. Yeah, so

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Speaker 2: and then I don't even remember what else are on

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Speaker 2: those Like on those pages there might be like a

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Speaker 3: Because we believe in safe sex, y'all.

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Speaker 2: This is true, stupid, but it was just such a time,

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Speaker 2: Like doing the research for like one of my favorite pages,

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Speaker 2: I think, mmm, I don't know if I have a

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Speaker 2: You ate down with the pictures, man, like volume three Aspire,

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Speaker 2: expect nobody else to sleep.

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00:21:04,400 --> 00:21:06,000
Speaker 3: So I hit tip up like at two o'clock in

435
00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:06,800
Speaker 3: the morning.

436
00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:08,760
Speaker 2: And like, hey, I know you sleep but I just

437
00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 2: want to tell you this and it'll be like ten

438
00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:12,880
Speaker 2: thousand text messages. Then I'll call her, like at seven

439
00:21:12,920 --> 00:21:16,760
Speaker 2: o'clock in the morning. She'm like, send me an email.

440
00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:18,720
Speaker 3: Email.

441
00:21:19,520 --> 00:21:21,640
Speaker 2: I'll email you and be like, I saw your text messages,

442
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:23,879
Speaker 2: send me what you was saying.

443
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:28,840
Speaker 3: And uh so that's so funny because.

444
00:21:28,600 --> 00:21:32,320
Speaker 2: You'd be like, I'll send her a rev and as

445
00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:34,920
Speaker 2: soon as I send it to her, I don't know

446
00:21:34,920 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 2: if she got her email notifications on or what. I

447
00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,399
Speaker 2: will send you another proof and I'll be like her

448
00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:43,280
Speaker 2: bit it's like like right now, I'll be like, okay,

449
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 2: let me send this. I'll send it. I'll be ready

450
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,720
Speaker 2: my laptop and go do something, and I'll come back

451
00:21:48,760 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 2: and have two miss calls I just sent this, and

452
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:55,400
Speaker 2: then I'll get a text message right at her Miss

453
00:21:55,400 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 2: calls black.

454
00:21:55,880 --> 00:21:58,840
Speaker 3: Tip nah tip as fire.

455
00:21:59,359 --> 00:22:02,040
Speaker 2: This is this is fired. You're like, nah nah, I

456
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:05,080
Speaker 2: got some changes, and I'm just like, girl, I just sent.

457
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,040
Speaker 3: This like a bag.

458
00:22:07,160 --> 00:22:10,199
Speaker 2: I'm telling you my thing about me. I'm very responsive,

459
00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,560
Speaker 2: like stupid fast. I'm like, when did you even look?

460
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,400
Speaker 2: And I will send you like six seven eight pages

461
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,120
Speaker 2: and it'll be like two minute response times and I'm like, girl,

462
00:22:22,240 --> 00:22:25,080
Speaker 2: what did you how that was so quick? What are

463
00:22:25,080 --> 00:22:25,480
Speaker 2: you doing?

464
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:25,960
Speaker 4: Yeah?

465
00:22:26,000 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 3: When I'm in that bag when it's time to create,

466
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:29,640
Speaker 3: oh please? And you know where it is.

467
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:31,919
Speaker 2: Like I spoke about earlier, like I feel like I

468
00:22:31,960 --> 00:22:34,280
Speaker 2: need to work. I need to have a better relationship

469
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:36,119
Speaker 2: with my business. I will say that the color and

470
00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:40,480
Speaker 2: coloring books have been just so much fun like that

471
00:22:40,520 --> 00:22:43,480
Speaker 2: it literally hasn't gave me a lot of joy when

472
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,480
Speaker 2: it comes to being an entrepreneur. So I think I

473
00:22:45,560 --> 00:22:47,399
Speaker 2: just get so excited because it's like, yo, like to

474
00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:49,600
Speaker 2: see ship that's in your head, and also to have

475
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,520
Speaker 2: somebody that like you get me, Like I could just

476
00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:53,439
Speaker 2: tell you water and then you would give me a

477
00:22:53,480 --> 00:22:57,199
Speaker 2: beautiful fucking ocean with flowers everywhere.

478
00:22:58,280 --> 00:23:01,800
Speaker 3: I'm just like, it's like, that's exactly what wasn't my head?

479
00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:04,280
Speaker 2: So and you don't even be giving me no descriptions

480
00:23:04,280 --> 00:23:07,600
Speaker 2: for real, sometimes I really don't. That's actually hilarious.

481
00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:09,480
Speaker 3: So so what do you say?

482
00:23:09,640 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 2: Well, I feel like you mentioned some of your challenges,

483
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,439
Speaker 2: so I would say one of my challenges that I

484
00:23:14,560 --> 00:23:16,920
Speaker 2: have if I'm being transparent, y'all, we still accept the

485
00:23:17,000 --> 00:23:20,919
Speaker 2: pre orders, but it has been a challenge for finding

486
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:27,360
Speaker 2: somebody or finding the company to print these goddamn coloring books. Yeah. Yeah,

487
00:23:27,400 --> 00:23:29,760
Speaker 2: So I've been working with this one particular coloring book

488
00:23:29,800 --> 00:23:33,920
Speaker 2: company or printing company since twenty nineteen, right, and we

489
00:23:34,000 --> 00:23:37,800
Speaker 2: have a really great partnership. However, when I sent them

490
00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:42,720
Speaker 2: bout before, they was like whoa, And they definitely pumped

491
00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,480
Speaker 2: the brakes and kicked me out the car because they

492
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,880
Speaker 2: sent me a list of their guidelines and this coloring

493
00:23:47,920 --> 00:23:51,160
Speaker 2: book does not meet them. Like it they cannot print

494
00:23:51,160 --> 00:23:54,520
Speaker 2: the material or the content that's located within this coloring book,

495
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 2: which has been very like annoying because when you're so

496
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: used to working with one particular company, like sometimes I

497
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,639
Speaker 2: don't even have to like double check certain things because

498
00:24:02,840 --> 00:24:06,360
Speaker 2: I have that trust within them. So however, I've been

499
00:24:06,440 --> 00:24:10,840
Speaker 2: like trying to like find different companies. I've been emailing people.

500
00:24:11,000 --> 00:24:12,919
Speaker 2: I even call it tip because I'm like, damn, like

501
00:24:13,080 --> 00:24:15,360
Speaker 2: I need to have a company locked in before January

502
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:16,560
Speaker 2: was over with because.

503
00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,240
Speaker 3: I need to starty some not these pre orders in February.

504
00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were very surprised, Like when you called me,

505
00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:25,680
Speaker 2: I was shocked, Like I was too, because I was

506
00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:27,320
Speaker 2: just like, yeah, how's everything going and you were just like,

507
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,360
Speaker 2: you're not gonna believe this. And I was just like,

508
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:33,080
Speaker 2: we sold out, Like what's going on. We didn't even

509
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:34,159
Speaker 2: went to print. And I was just like, what do

510
00:24:34,200 --> 00:24:35,920
Speaker 2: you mean we haven't gone to print, Like this was

511
00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:37,000
Speaker 2: done and like and we've been.

512
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,560
Speaker 3: A tight deadline, like I want yeah.

513
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, we were trying to get it out for the holidays,

514
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:43,200
Speaker 2: and so I was like, okay, this is done in November,

515
00:24:43,240 --> 00:24:44,440
Speaker 2: Like what do you mean has it gone to print?

516
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 2: And you were just like, yeah, they was, they saw

517
00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 2: they saw things. Yeah, they immediately No.

518
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:52,960
Speaker 3: They shut that ship down.

519
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,800
Speaker 2: And we had no idea. They were so conservative and

520
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 2: I think that find that bond.

521
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:03,320
Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess niggas in her mind don't suck this.

522
00:25:03,520 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 2: I mean, the state of the States is a y

523
00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:08,720
Speaker 2: in a certain way.

524
00:25:08,840 --> 00:25:13,240
Speaker 3: So they was very like nah, girls. So I have

525
00:25:13,280 --> 00:25:15,159
Speaker 3: a couple of emails I gotta follow up to. I

526
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 3: think I'm gonna.

527
00:25:15,680 --> 00:25:18,520
Speaker 2: Start doing some cold calling and cause I gotta get

528
00:25:18,520 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 2: these books printed out. And also the book is fucking fire,

529
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 2: and I know people print out dicks and coloring books

530
00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,120
Speaker 2: because I've seen it before. I'm even thinking about going

531
00:25:25,119 --> 00:25:27,639
Speaker 2: to the bookstore and just looking at different print companies. No,

532
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: just trying to be think outside the box. Yeah, because

533
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:34,159
Speaker 2: I'm like, I need to get these coloring books going on,

534
00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:36,200
Speaker 2: and also to be transparent. I don't think I shared

535
00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 2: this with you, but I started a challenge where obviously

536
00:25:40,119 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 2: I want to sell ten thousand books this year, and

537
00:25:43,359 --> 00:25:47,880
Speaker 2: in order for me to do that, right, it's a lie.

538
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:49,719
Speaker 2: And in order for me to do that, I had

539
00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:52,160
Speaker 2: a conversation with my homegirl Ta She's like a really

540
00:25:52,160 --> 00:25:55,879
Speaker 2: well known influencer, and she helped me breaking down and

541
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,159
Speaker 2: she was like, Ebane, you know mad people. You know

542
00:25:58,240 --> 00:26:00,439
Speaker 2: mad influencers. You have your network, like you know so

543
00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:02,879
Speaker 2: many people. And I think one thing for me that

544
00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:05,199
Speaker 2: I want to stop doing in twenty twenty six is

545
00:26:05,240 --> 00:26:08,159
Speaker 2: playing fucking small because I don't I think our coloring

546
00:26:08,200 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 2: books is fire. Like there's no coloring book out here

547
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,919
Speaker 2: like this, Like it's interactive, you could listen to a podcast,

548
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,080
Speaker 2: you see yourself, it's games, like it feels like you

549
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 2: have a homegirl in this book, you know what I'm saying.

550
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:23,120
Speaker 2: And so I've been working on that and it's been cool,

551
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:25,520
Speaker 2: Like I've some of the people that I've been working

552
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: with have been very helpful and been posting videos and

553
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,719
Speaker 2: like even Tash made a fire video for me, and

554
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: she's like, you can use this as the baseline. But

555
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:36,440
Speaker 2: it's just like, damn, Like I need to give Volume

556
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,240
Speaker 2: four out the way because I want people to purchase

557
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 2: not only Volume three, but Volume four two.

558
00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:43,080
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying, and to just purchase all

559
00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:43,440
Speaker 3: of them.

560
00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:45,680
Speaker 2: Yeah. So, and also I'm going to be doing something

561
00:26:45,680 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 2: behind the scenes, behind the scenes of the coloring book,

562
00:26:48,600 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 2: like just showing being more transparent about where I'm at

563
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,080
Speaker 2: with my goals and like how many books I sold,

564
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:54,000
Speaker 2: because I feel like this.

565
00:26:53,880 --> 00:26:56,800
Speaker 3: Is a group effort with all of us.

566
00:26:56,840 --> 00:26:58,919
Speaker 2: So I feel like most of y'all have supported But

567
00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 2: you know, you can always tell friend to tell a friend,

568
00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,400
Speaker 2: because I think we can do ten thousand books this year.

569
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,000
Speaker 3: I really do.

570
00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,040
Speaker 2: I think you can. I think it's also it's one

571
00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:10,080
Speaker 2: of those professional stories yours. It's one of those professional

572
00:27:10,080 --> 00:27:13,400
Speaker 2: stories that you interview people about, right, so you're trying

573
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,919
Speaker 2: to get people insight on Hey, I decided to do

574
00:27:15,960 --> 00:27:19,800
Speaker 2: a coloring book four five years ago, and here we

575
00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 2: are now began more than eight bookstores, Like you can

576
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,439
Speaker 2: literally walk in and buy a colored book and go

577
00:27:26,520 --> 00:27:30,960
Speaker 2: home and color today, like if you go to this bookstore.

578
00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 2: So I think being transparent is definitely like the way

579
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 2: to go. And also like that one of those goals

580
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:41,120
Speaker 2: that you said about not being so scary, like, yeah,

581
00:27:41,240 --> 00:27:42,840
Speaker 2: that's one of my goals this year too. I am

582
00:27:42,880 --> 00:27:47,119
Speaker 2: also trying to be more because we're dope, like people

583
00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:50,280
Speaker 2: like have people see me, Like I have a homeboy

584
00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:53,640
Speaker 2: who was like he bigs me up, like every single time,

585
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 2: it'll be like you, he's like you have like spoken

586
00:27:57,520 --> 00:27:59,439
Speaker 2: into my life. Like he's like you have told me

587
00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 2: things that have and use the trajectory of like where

588
00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:04,080
Speaker 2: I was going, Like I just want you to know that.

589
00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:07,560
Speaker 2: And I'm just like dang, like y'all really be thinking

590
00:28:07,880 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 2: like this is amazing, and so I'm just like you know,

591
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: and you know part of it, it's like yourself, you're like,

592
00:28:12,600 --> 00:28:15,400
Speaker 2: oh I'm great, yeah, like I'm this, But then there's

593
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:17,440
Speaker 2: also that little part that's just kind of like dang,

594
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:20,800
Speaker 2: like I need to be doing more. Yeah, And so

595
00:28:20,880 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 2: that's that little part that I just need to like

596
00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:27,239
Speaker 2: just kick out and just actually do the more that

597
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,359
Speaker 2: I know I'm capable of. So I think we're on

598
00:28:29,400 --> 00:28:30,360
Speaker 2: the same page with that one.

599
00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:30,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

600
00:28:31,040 --> 00:28:33,119
Speaker 2: And I think also because I have a close friend

601
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,119
Speaker 2: like that. He always tells me like Evane, it's just

602
00:28:36,440 --> 00:28:38,720
Speaker 2: it's so easy for you to forget how great you are,

603
00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,080
Speaker 2: like you accomplish a lot. And I think when he

604
00:28:41,120 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 2: tells me stuff like that, like I get kind of

605
00:28:42,680 --> 00:28:46,400
Speaker 2: emotional because I'm just like, damn, like every time, right girl,

606
00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: I've been sending a voice not to my homegirl after

607
00:28:50,800 --> 00:28:52,760
Speaker 2: it's like, yo, this is what set to me, and

608
00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 2: I'm just excited it is because it's just like sometimes

609
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,160
Speaker 2: you forget your greatness and like, you know, I think

610
00:29:01,200 --> 00:29:03,600
Speaker 2: that's why I get so frustrated with my business because

611
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,680
Speaker 2: it's like, I know my shit is fire, Like I

612
00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,640
Speaker 2: know what we're creating is like, ain't nobody touching it?

613
00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 2: I just don't think the right people have seen it yet.

614
00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: So but I was like, right, people, I ain't seen

615
00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 2: it because you plan too fucking small, like put yourself

616
00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: not serious. I'm like, put yourself out there, like girl,

617
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 2: I've been asking everybody, like I'm following up. I held

618
00:29:19,840 --> 00:29:22,479
Speaker 2: you go to them conferences. Yeah, she sent me a

619
00:29:22,480 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 2: list of conferences my other home. Like when I tell

620
00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:26,360
Speaker 2: you I've been on this computer locked in cause I'm

621
00:29:26,400 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 2: just like, no, like, people need to see this coloring book.

622
00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 3: And then when you think about it, ten thousand coloring

623
00:29:30,960 --> 00:29:31,800
Speaker 3: books is not alive.

624
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 2: It's not if you break it down by months at

625
00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 2: the minimum you want to sell, right, And even when

626
00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: I was talking to TOAs, she was like, all you

627
00:29:39,120 --> 00:29:42,000
Speaker 2: need is one hundred influences. One hundred influences is twenty

628
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:46,640
Speaker 2: five influence per quarter. That's four or five influence per month. Like,

629
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 2: it's not times, that's an event, like an event with

630
00:29:49,680 --> 00:29:50,880
Speaker 2: a thousand people.

631
00:29:50,840 --> 00:29:54,480
Speaker 3: Like yeah, like you out here, That's what I'm saying.

632
00:29:54,560 --> 00:29:56,920
Speaker 2: And every time I don't do my events, and I'm like, Dan,

633
00:29:56,960 --> 00:29:58,160
Speaker 2: that's why I'm like, I can't wait to have the

634
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 2: whole set so I can do more vendedm But they

635
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:02,840
Speaker 2: always sell out, so I'm just like, come on, god like,

636
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,840
Speaker 2: but that's still still a blessing.

637
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:07,120
Speaker 3: No, it's a blessing.

638
00:30:07,520 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 2: They always sell out, Like I'm trying to do it,

639
00:30:10,160 --> 00:30:11,160
Speaker 2: but dann, y'all keep.

640
00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 3: Buying the right, right, right facts facts.

641
00:30:14,640 --> 00:30:16,680
Speaker 2: Now, were there any moments in the coloring book where

642
00:30:16,680 --> 00:30:18,120
Speaker 2: you was like, em, no, I'm not gonna draw that,

643
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 2: or like certain things you just did not want to

644
00:30:20,240 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: cross because you was it made you uncomfortable. No, yeah,

645
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:28,200
Speaker 2: I don't think so either. Right, there wasn't anything like

646
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 2: cause I mean again, like I'm not gonna say we're adults,

647
00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: because some adults that makes them uncomfortable, but like literally

648
00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:41,680
Speaker 2: anything like subject matter wise that you suggested or that

649
00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 2: was being talked about. I also think I'm like a

650
00:30:45,080 --> 00:30:49,040
Speaker 2: very progressive person. Yeah, so like in the terms of

651
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:52,480
Speaker 2: like sex, work and like all of those. Me and

652
00:30:52,520 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 2: my mama was watching our show the other night and

653
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:58,240
Speaker 2: we was watching nine to one one. I don't know

654
00:30:58,240 --> 00:30:59,760
Speaker 2: if you watch my one, but we was watching nine

655
00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:03,680
Speaker 2: one one, and uh, this man ended up passing out

656
00:31:03,680 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 2: at work. He at because he had on a chastity belt,

657
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:10,080
Speaker 2: and so they were just like they were just like,

658
00:31:10,120 --> 00:31:12,080
Speaker 2: why you got he got the iron one on with

659
00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:15,400
Speaker 2: the locks, and so the firefighters were like, sir, like,

660
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: where's the key at? And so mind you, they're in

661
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:20,560
Speaker 2: a boardroom at work, and so they're just like, sir, like,

662
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 2: where's the key. And so this lady like speaks up

663
00:31:22,680 --> 00:31:24,719
Speaker 2: and she's like he swallowed it. And so I'm like, oh,

664
00:31:24,760 --> 00:31:27,840
Speaker 2: I bet that's his domb and so they're just like,

665
00:31:27,920 --> 00:31:29,160
Speaker 2: and how do you know that? And she was just

666
00:31:29,160 --> 00:31:31,360
Speaker 2: like because I'm I'm his dumb and so she's like

667
00:31:31,400 --> 00:31:33,280
Speaker 2: I made him swallow it. My mom was like or

668
00:31:33,360 --> 00:31:35,440
Speaker 2: you know, you know what, how are you? And I

669
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:40,200
Speaker 2: was just like because like I was like she probably

670
00:31:40,240 --> 00:31:41,680
Speaker 2: And so then they were like, well, man, can you

671
00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:43,160
Speaker 2: like command him to do X, Y and Z. And

672
00:31:43,200 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 2: I was like and there it goes. So it's like

673
00:31:47,120 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 2: and all these things are on TV most of the

674
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,480
Speaker 2: time of these days, and yeah, like regular primetime television

675
00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:56,960
Speaker 2: because it's right there. But yeah, I don't think there

676
00:31:57,040 --> 00:32:01,240
Speaker 2: was anything that you like mad interviewed to somebody about

677
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,120
Speaker 2: or like spoke about or like asked me to draw

678
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,960
Speaker 2: where I was just like, yeah, like because again you

679
00:32:08,040 --> 00:32:10,440
Speaker 2: was like little strap once I want to be like

680
00:32:11,480 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 2: and like make sure like she's like grab it. And

681
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:17,000
Speaker 2: I'm just like girl like reading these things in an

682
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:19,520
Speaker 2: email because you send them an emails. I'm just like

683
00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,480
Speaker 2: going through the emails like Okay, let me see what

684
00:32:23,520 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: she wants me to add. So it wasn't anything crazy.

685
00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: I'm just like, all right, let's do it. I think

686
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:30,800
Speaker 2: it was more on me, like not being uncomfortable with

687
00:32:30,840 --> 00:32:32,479
Speaker 2: me being like, day, let me see how I can

688
00:32:32,520 --> 00:32:35,200
Speaker 2: execute this so that she like it, and that we're

689
00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,080
Speaker 2: you know, getting where we want to get for the

690
00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 2: explicit content we want, right. And I also think that

691
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:46,560
Speaker 2: if we were doing stories like you know, sexual abuse

692
00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,600
Speaker 2: and things like that, I think that probably would have

693
00:32:48,600 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: been a little challenging and also uncomfortable for both of

694
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,320
Speaker 2: us because it's like, how do you illustrate that? Yeah,

695
00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:56,400
Speaker 2: because that's what I'm just like. Now, the exactly did

696
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 2: you watch His and Hers on Netflix? I did?

697
00:32:58,840 --> 00:33:01,160
Speaker 3: I did start as an HP documentary and turned to

698
00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:02,080
Speaker 3: a Tyler Perry movie.

699
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:05,240
Speaker 2: And so when I watched His and Hers and we

700
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:06,800
Speaker 2: got to the end of His and Hers and figured

701
00:33:06,840 --> 00:33:11,120
Speaker 2: out why that lady did what she did, I was like, right,

702
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:14,800
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have consequences. Yeah, y'all shouldn't have allowed that

703
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,520
Speaker 2: to happen. So if it wasn't a case of that,

704
00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:19,200
Speaker 2: I've been like, okay, like we can't.

705
00:33:20,120 --> 00:33:24,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, it triggering too, Right.

706
00:33:24,360 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: But a lot of the content that you like do

707
00:33:26,960 --> 00:33:28,480
Speaker 2: and then a lot of the interviews that you have

708
00:33:28,600 --> 00:33:33,160
Speaker 2: were like empowering stories or like stories that are untraditional

709
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,400
Speaker 2: like we've never heard before, like the Christian promiscuity.

710
00:33:38,000 --> 00:33:41,960
Speaker 3: Yeah whatever that page is, Oh Christian Sexologists.

711
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:45,640
Speaker 2: There you go, the Christian sexologists, Like there are things

712
00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:49,160
Speaker 2: that we just haven't like experienced or heard about. Because

713
00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 2: I was like Christian Sexologists, I was like what is this?

714
00:33:51,680 --> 00:33:53,120
Speaker 2: You were like, yeah, let's add this story.

715
00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:55,040
Speaker 3: And girl, I love that page.

716
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 2: Look we made it happen.

717
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,480
Speaker 4: Yeah.

718
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,520
Speaker 2: I think that's one of my favorite page just because

719
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 2: I don't want to give too much away, but it's

720
00:34:02,200 --> 00:34:04,280
Speaker 2: it's so dope. And I think one of my favorite

721
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: things about Volume four is like Volume three in Volume

722
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: four is like it's just a combination of like the

723
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,040
Speaker 2: many different layers of women, you know what I'm saying,

724
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:20,800
Speaker 2: Like like we're really yeah, like you got from being

725
00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:25,600
Speaker 2: a music group or being a police officer to being

726
00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,160
Speaker 2: a dom and then like the Christian Sexologies page like that,

727
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:30,839
Speaker 2: Oh that page was just so good.

728
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 3: Did you read it or did you?

729
00:34:31,960 --> 00:34:32,439
Speaker 1: Like I did?

730
00:34:32,719 --> 00:34:34,839
Speaker 2: I did because at first because I was like, this

731
00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:35,439
Speaker 2: is very long.

732
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, you wasn't fucking with it right.

733
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: I was like, hey, girl, like this is very long.

734
00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 2: I was like, are we gonna cut some texts? Like

735
00:34:43,520 --> 00:34:45,520
Speaker 2: because there's no way for me to do illustrations on

736
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 2: this phage if we're not cutting text, and you were like, yeah,

737
00:34:47,840 --> 00:34:49,440
Speaker 2: what is so dope? I just want to leave it,

738
00:34:49,480 --> 00:34:52,319
Speaker 2: And I'm just like, right, if we're gonna leave it,

739
00:34:52,520 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 2: this is this is what it can be. Yeah, it

740
00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 2: can't be this, but it can be this. And so

741
00:34:57,160 --> 00:34:59,520
Speaker 2: I think we definitely came to a really good compromise.

742
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:04,240
Speaker 2: And I think different to have that like those words, yeah,

743
00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:07,839
Speaker 2: like to be reading that because it's not even like, yeah,

744
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:11,239
Speaker 2: it's a coloring page. It's very simple, but like, I

745
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: think that page is more about the words than it

746
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,600
Speaker 2: yes in the book. And then when you actually hear

747
00:35:17,640 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: her saying it, like I think I teared up because

748
00:35:20,239 --> 00:35:21,919
Speaker 2: I was like wow, like and I think a lot

749
00:35:21,960 --> 00:35:24,879
Speaker 2: of us, especially women or even men, we have certain

750
00:35:24,920 --> 00:35:26,880
Speaker 2: desires of our hearts. So when you read the page,

751
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:28,840
Speaker 2: it like it's very affirm and like the way that

752
00:35:28,960 --> 00:35:31,879
Speaker 2: girl can he can pray down baby, which I didn't

753
00:35:31,920 --> 00:35:35,200
Speaker 2: even like looking at the title and then reading it,

754
00:35:35,320 --> 00:35:36,560
Speaker 2: I was just like, oh, this is not what I

755
00:35:36,640 --> 00:35:38,000
Speaker 2: was saying, because you were just like, yeah, man, it

756
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:39,680
Speaker 2: was so dope, and I was just like.

757
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:44,360
Speaker 3: I think everything I do is dope, man, as you should.

758
00:35:44,600 --> 00:35:46,920
Speaker 2: As you should, but I was reading like the title

759
00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: of it, and I'm just like okay, So then like

760
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:49,759
Speaker 2: what is this going to be about? And then I

761
00:35:49,800 --> 00:35:52,319
Speaker 2: read it and I was like okay, okay, like this

762
00:35:52,440 --> 00:35:55,239
Speaker 2: is okay. I was like, okay, this is this is

763
00:35:55,280 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 2: something like this is literally something that people are going

764
00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:00,359
Speaker 2: to shoot. They might they might rip the page out

765
00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:03,440
Speaker 2: and pin it somewhere. I know, like I don't know,

766
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:07,960
Speaker 2: And that's what they are, like something because that was

767
00:36:08,400 --> 00:36:15,560
Speaker 2: that was that it's heavy, and that's why I loved

768
00:36:15,640 --> 00:36:17,960
Speaker 2: I don't even consider this book of coloring book. Like

769
00:36:18,000 --> 00:36:19,840
Speaker 2: I said before, I feel like it's a personal manifesto.

770
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:22,759
Speaker 2: Like I feel like you're literally like this book is

771
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,839
Speaker 2: giving you life, like speaking speaking life over you, giving

772
00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 2: you like love and everything that you need, and just

773
00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 2: giving you the confirmation that you need to know that

774
00:36:31,000 --> 00:36:33,399
Speaker 2: it's gonna be okay, whatever route that you decide to go,

775
00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:38,759
Speaker 2: because it's already done and anything is possible. It never

776
00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:41,759
Speaker 2: just start over. It's a lot of nonsense going on

777
00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: in the world right now. The least the show can

778
00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,080
Speaker 2: do for yourself, it's start over and do something you

779
00:36:46,120 --> 00:36:49,799
Speaker 2: want to do. If you facts so okay, So what

780
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:52,120
Speaker 2: do you expect when you people first flip through the book, like,

781
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 2: what do you think the reaction is going to be.

782
00:36:56,080 --> 00:36:58,280
Speaker 2: I'm trying to think of like what what we start

783
00:36:58,320 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 2: with and the fourth one, But I think just flipping through,

784
00:37:03,719 --> 00:37:09,360
Speaker 2: there's gonna be a couple of oh okay, yah, a

785
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:11,719
Speaker 2: couple of okays in there, especially looking at the table

786
00:37:11,760 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 2: of contents and seeing like what the new subjects that

787
00:37:16,320 --> 00:37:19,600
Speaker 2: have been added are. I think they are definitely going

788
00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,520
Speaker 2: to be, you know, either a little surprised or just

789
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:25,560
Speaker 2: they can't wait. They might start with those first of

790
00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:27,279
Speaker 2: just so they can be like, oh, let me hear

791
00:37:27,280 --> 00:37:29,800
Speaker 2: what she talking about because you was a what you

792
00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: mean he was a stripper? I want to hear what

793
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,520
Speaker 2: you like. People want to hear what she's talking about.

794
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:36,320
Speaker 2: So I think they're definitely going to be a little surprised,

795
00:37:36,360 --> 00:37:38,239
Speaker 2: but I think they're definitely gonna want to dive right

796
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 2: into it.

797
00:37:43,200 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 3: Do you think people will be surprised about how explicit

798
00:37:46,120 --> 00:37:46,400
Speaker 3: it is?

799
00:37:48,239 --> 00:37:54,239
Speaker 2: I mean, maybe, yeah, maybe not. I think a lot

800
00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:58,200
Speaker 2: of things these days are so out in the open,

801
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,400
Speaker 2: like this may be like tame compared to like what

802
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:07,160
Speaker 2: people have access to, right, I think they will definitely

803
00:38:08,120 --> 00:38:12,200
Speaker 2: be able to if they want a little spice. There's

804
00:38:12,200 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 2: a little bit of spice in there. But I don't

805
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,000
Speaker 2: think it's gonna be to the point that they're just like, oh,

806
00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 2: I can't even like I can't even color this page.

807
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: Like no, just color the dodo and call it to day.

808
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:27,080
Speaker 2: Just keep it moving. Yeah, what do you think, Well,

809
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,960
Speaker 2: I think that people want explicit content.

810
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 3: I think they're gonna be like, oh, yeah, you know,

811
00:38:33,200 --> 00:38:33,759
Speaker 3: people freak.

812
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,760
Speaker 2: So I think people are going to be like, oh shit,

813
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 2: like this is kind of lit.

814
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:40,759
Speaker 3: But I also.

815
00:38:40,640 --> 00:38:42,920
Speaker 2: Think that people are going to appreciate the fact that, like,

816
00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:45,279
Speaker 2: you can do this with a mini me. So, like,

817
00:38:45,600 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: because the book is still in order, it's just that

818
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,839
Speaker 2: we added additional pages in between those the volume three,

819
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:53,160
Speaker 2: So it's like, Okay, this person gonna have this page,

820
00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: but they can still go on order with you. So

821
00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:56,640
Speaker 2: I think people are gonna love it, Like I think

822
00:38:56,680 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 2: it's gonna I think people. I think once they see

823
00:38:58,800 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 2: the book and they have it in their hands and

824
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 2: they actually sit with it, I think they're going to

825
00:39:02,080 --> 00:39:04,760
Speaker 2: see how intentional we were with everything.

826
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:06,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, And like.

827
00:39:06,719 --> 00:39:08,960
Speaker 2: I think, for me, nobody call this shit. I don't

828
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: even want to say it, but I just love the

829
00:39:10,520 --> 00:39:12,640
Speaker 2: fact how we talk. Maybe you haven't called it yet,

830
00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:15,799
Speaker 2: but I love how we started off with honoring those

831
00:39:15,840 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 2: traditional career pathways and then we get to my story

832
00:39:19,040 --> 00:39:23,560
Speaker 2: of pivoting, and then we start introducing no I knew, yeah,

833
00:39:23,719 --> 00:39:25,719
Speaker 2: but three. When we did with three, I was like

834
00:39:25,760 --> 00:39:32,280
Speaker 2: the pivot. The second half has like the non traditionals. Yeah,

835
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:36,839
Speaker 2: we kind of like eased into it so that there

836
00:39:36,880 --> 00:39:39,120
Speaker 2: was a nice transition throughout the book for sure. So

837
00:39:39,640 --> 00:39:43,319
Speaker 2: I love that, Like I hope that people I hope

838
00:39:43,320 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 2: that people see themselves for sure, and I hope they

839
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 2: encourage people to explore and I hope it's a conversation starter,

840
00:39:48,840 --> 00:39:50,920
Speaker 2: especially when you read the blurbs and stuff and like

841
00:39:51,320 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: you know, people say, you know, what does this mean

842
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 2: for you? Like when I read this, I get this,

843
00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 2: you know, things of that nature. So I'm excited.

844
00:39:57,800 --> 00:40:00,960
Speaker 3: I can't wait to get the book, y'all that much.

845
00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:02,680
Speaker 2: That's smart to put it on paper.

846
00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:06,040
Speaker 3: I kind of print these witches out and staple on myself.

847
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:11,759
Speaker 2: But I love it even with the covers, Like I

848
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,120
Speaker 2: think Volume four cover is so fire, Like I think

849
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,000
Speaker 2: you nailed it. I love the cover. That thing stressed

850
00:40:17,040 --> 00:40:21,040
Speaker 2: me out yeah. I was really because my first thought

851
00:40:21,600 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 2: going into the cover was Girls Gone Wild and I

852
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,600
Speaker 2: think I had we had talked about this, we did.

853
00:40:26,040 --> 00:40:29,520
Speaker 2: I'm trying to figure out like how to like girls

854
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,919
Speaker 2: Gone wildly, Like I'm literally trying to figure it out,

855
00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:36,960
Speaker 2: and I just could not like get the image that

856
00:40:37,040 --> 00:40:39,640
Speaker 2: I wanted. Every time I tried to illustrate it, and

857
00:40:39,680 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: I'd be like, girl, I'm working on the cover. I'm

858
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:41,919
Speaker 2: working on the cover.

859
00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:44,919
Speaker 3: Like the covers take you a little minute. Yeah it did.

860
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:46,360
Speaker 2: I was like, I'm gonna get it. I'm gonna get it,

861
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:48,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna send it. And then eventually I was just like,

862
00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:51,759
Speaker 2: all right, she gets some low rise jeans. That's really

863
00:40:51,800 --> 00:40:54,120
Speaker 2: worth the pink thong. Some ship that I was where

864
00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,120
Speaker 2: shout out to the two thousands. Yes, the low rides,

865
00:40:58,960 --> 00:41:01,880
Speaker 2: the very very very low riding. So I was like,

866
00:41:02,000 --> 00:41:03,480
Speaker 2: let me like figure out how to work. I love

867
00:41:03,560 --> 00:41:05,440
Speaker 2: the I love the cover of the fourth I think

868
00:41:05,440 --> 00:41:06,200
Speaker 2: it's my favorite cover.

869
00:41:06,520 --> 00:41:10,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's my favorite cover too little. Yeah.

870
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:12,560
Speaker 2: And also, if you're going to purchase the book from

871
00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 2: YouTube or maybe even I have a Shopify website, the

872
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:19,200
Speaker 2: cover is different because I didn't want my site to

873
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 2: get shut down, so we had to do a very

874
00:41:22,760 --> 00:41:25,400
Speaker 2: simple cover. It's not the actual cover, but it's just

875
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:28,239
Speaker 2: a cover art for the website so that website won't

876
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:30,839
Speaker 2: get shut down. I can't believe. I was like, y'all,

877
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:35,759
Speaker 2: this image isn't even that bad, yo, like her her

878
00:41:35,800 --> 00:41:37,960
Speaker 2: boobs are covered, which I didn't understand.

879
00:41:38,000 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 3: I think it was just the skin and maybe the throng.

880
00:41:40,080 --> 00:41:40,560
Speaker 3: I don't know.

881
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: First of all, it's an illustration, like, ain't nothing was shown.

882
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,600
Speaker 2: So when you were like, send me the cover, and

883
00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: I was just like, what you mean, send you to cover?

884
00:41:48,920 --> 00:41:51,399
Speaker 3: I know, Becauzie, what are you talking about?

885
00:41:51,440 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 2: I'm mad annoying because the Shopify website is connected to

886
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,840
Speaker 2: my YouTube page because YouTube only has on certain partnerships

887
00:41:57,840 --> 00:42:00,839
Speaker 2: with certain websites, and my my number one, my main

888
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 2: website is s firspace, but they don't have an integration

889
00:42:03,120 --> 00:42:05,120
Speaker 2: with that, so I had to hurry up and quickly

890
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 2: create a Shopify website. And when I put the color

891
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:09,960
Speaker 2: and book up there with the cover, that's.

892
00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:12,480
Speaker 3: An I am bitch. I don't know what you think.

893
00:42:12,560 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 2: This is just like remove the words, just lead the

894
00:42:16,800 --> 00:42:18,719
Speaker 2: words and take everything. And I was just like, just

895
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 2: lead it. I you know, so even on TikTok. I

896
00:42:21,520 --> 00:42:23,920
Speaker 2: have a TikTok shop, so y'all, I have a shop

897
00:42:23,920 --> 00:42:26,120
Speaker 2: for everything, Like we gonna make this ten thousand to

898
00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,080
Speaker 2: cover the basis, Yes, we're gonna make this ten thousand

899
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:31,080
Speaker 2: dollars books. But yeah, so if you see a regular

900
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,480
Speaker 2: Peak cover that says professional Homego Coloring Book, Volume four,

901
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:37,160
Speaker 2: that is not the cover. Not the cover. The cover's cute,

902
00:42:37,600 --> 00:42:42,719
Speaker 2: it's cute. I love it. She really like getting a tea,

903
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:46,600
Speaker 2: right body? I love it. And last, for not least,

904
00:42:46,640 --> 00:42:48,279
Speaker 2: I mean, we're not gonna work on this no time soon.

905
00:42:48,320 --> 00:42:50,560
Speaker 2: But what are your thoughts and hosts for volume five

906
00:42:53,360 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 2: twenty twenty seven? Yeah, for sure, maybe twenty twenty eight. Yeah,

907
00:42:59,120 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: because honestly, I feel like I can do a lot

908
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:04,000
Speaker 2: with these two books. We need to give a song,

909
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 2: give it some time. I think volume five, especially like

910
00:43:07,880 --> 00:43:12,240
Speaker 2: getting through like last year, getting through twenty twenty six,

911
00:43:13,640 --> 00:43:16,560
Speaker 2: and just seeing like that reach that you're going to

912
00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:20,160
Speaker 2: get from these books, especially from like the full set

913
00:43:20,280 --> 00:43:23,120
Speaker 2: and then from the sets for three and four, Like

914
00:43:23,280 --> 00:43:25,239
Speaker 2: just seeing like that reach and seeing how far you

915
00:43:25,280 --> 00:43:28,000
Speaker 2: get with that, and then also like the connections that

916
00:43:28,040 --> 00:43:31,160
Speaker 2: you'll probably get, and the interviews that you'll probably get, Yeah,

917
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:35,280
Speaker 2: that will lend to a better, like more complex Book five.

918
00:43:35,360 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 2: Like I can't imagine, like Book four was sixty or so,

919
00:43:40,160 --> 00:43:40,920
Speaker 2: paid more.

920
00:43:40,760 --> 00:43:44,520
Speaker 3: Than sixty pages. It's like ninety pages, you see.

921
00:43:45,040 --> 00:43:49,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's a very big book. So I can't

922
00:43:50,000 --> 00:43:55,200
Speaker 2: imagine like when we get to book five and you know,

923
00:43:55,280 --> 00:44:00,239
Speaker 2: pulling those stories again, because it's gonna be I'm sure

924
00:44:00,280 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 2: it's gonna be another pivot. I'm sure there's gonna be

925
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:06,160
Speaker 2: some other the Yeah, I think there's gonna be some

926
00:44:06,200 --> 00:44:09,120
Speaker 2: other content in there, Like we're gonna get like tap

927
00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:14,040
Speaker 2: into more like non traditional, non traditional careers. Like there's

928
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,319
Speaker 2: gonna be so many more things. So I think, like

929
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,279
Speaker 2: within the next year, like you're definitely gonna have a

930
00:44:19,320 --> 00:44:22,520
Speaker 2: lot of content that you're gonna have to like skim

931
00:44:22,560 --> 00:44:25,600
Speaker 2: through and figure out like what you're gonna pull. Yeah,

932
00:44:25,719 --> 00:44:28,360
Speaker 2: because I've even been approaching my content a little differently

933
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 2: on the show.

934
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:33,040
Speaker 3: And so yeah, I'm excited. Like I said, we're not

935
00:44:33,080 --> 00:44:34,360
Speaker 3: gonna work on Volum five no time.

936
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: Soon, but I am excited to see what's to come

937
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: because I feel like we really did our thing with.

938
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:41,279
Speaker 3: Volume three chia.

939
00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:42,280
Speaker 2: We was working.

940
00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:44,279
Speaker 3: Yeah, like I feel like in Volum five, I might

941
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 3: want to cluse some stickers and some ship like.

942
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,759
Speaker 2: You're probably gonna get that UFO page that you.

943
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 3: Wanted, I am. Do you have to.

944
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:57,839
Speaker 2: Get some little perforated pages in there? Yes, you know,

945
00:44:58,560 --> 00:45:01,200
Speaker 2: add some little as nick knacks and things.

946
00:45:01,480 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 3: I ain't know who knows.

947
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:05,560
Speaker 2: Bundles trying to get it all together. I still want

948
00:45:05,600 --> 00:45:09,400
Speaker 2: you to do the the for set with the pretty

949
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 2: private with the envelope.

950
00:45:11,480 --> 00:45:14,040
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, yes, I don't for that to draw.

951
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:17,840
Speaker 2: And then also you never know, by then we'll have

952
00:45:17,920 --> 00:45:20,680
Speaker 2: digital pages, might even have a coloring app. And I

953
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:22,879
Speaker 2: keep trying to get you to do these digital pages, y'all.

954
00:45:22,920 --> 00:45:26,359
Speaker 2: I told her about them to get her to draw

955
00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:29,239
Speaker 2: free pages. I'm like, just drop, like, just drop a

956
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: couple of free pages for the people I just want

957
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:31,600
Speaker 2: to see.

958
00:45:31,960 --> 00:45:34,160
Speaker 3: Just I you know, maybe we can think of it.

959
00:45:34,239 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 2: We can talk about that, like if you buy a

960
00:45:35,880 --> 00:45:37,839
Speaker 2: book of something, you get like a free additional page

961
00:45:37,880 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 2: or something.

962
00:45:38,120 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 3: Because the girls love digital pages. I know that for sure.

963
00:45:41,120 --> 00:45:43,680
Speaker 3: I think my concern is like I just want you

964
00:45:43,840 --> 00:45:44,480
Speaker 3: to buy the books.

965
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 2: She's like, absolutely not, no free down at please spots

966
00:45:50,840 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: the Books'll at getting no free pages, Like you have.

967
00:45:58,160 --> 00:45:59,760
Speaker 3: A lot of stuff a freeze, just buy the books.

968
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:05,840
Speaker 2: He's like, y'all get this content for free. So yeah,

969
00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:09,680
Speaker 2: subscribe to her Patreon So she yes, subscribed to my

970
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:14,280
Speaker 2: YouTube page watch these videos. Yes, but I think overall,

971
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:16,919
Speaker 2: like I'm very pleased with volume three and volume four,

972
00:46:17,000 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 2: like hands down, Like obviously Volume one, Volume two is amazing,

973
00:46:19,680 --> 00:46:22,600
Speaker 2: but Volume three, Volume four, no coloring book is touching it.

974
00:46:23,640 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 3: And we enforced So yeah, big things, big things. It's

975
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 3: only up from here.

976
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: Only it's only January. Yeah, already starting the year off

977
00:46:34,040 --> 00:46:36,799
Speaker 2: with a good bang. Like I said, like, so that's

978
00:46:36,840 --> 00:46:39,680
Speaker 2: really it's really working. It's really working. And we're going

979
00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:40,319
Speaker 2: to find a printer.

980
00:46:40,719 --> 00:46:42,200
Speaker 3: Yeah, we're gonna find a printing for this month of

981
00:46:42,320 --> 00:46:42,880
Speaker 3: with for sure.

982
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,239
Speaker 2: I say, if y'all listening to this, because I don't

983
00:46:45,239 --> 00:46:48,000
Speaker 2: know when this drops, but it's just maybe maybe somebody

984
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:51,200
Speaker 2: can connect you to a printer. Yeah, please please stapler

985
00:46:51,320 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 2: or something that we have read these hailback books out.

986
00:46:55,440 --> 00:46:56,799
Speaker 3: But I appreciate you.

987
00:46:57,080 --> 00:46:59,480
Speaker 2: I always tell you are one of my best and

988
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 2: favorite relationships ever. So I appreciate you so much. Tell

989
00:47:03,080 --> 00:47:05,680
Speaker 2: the people where they can follow you at where they

990
00:47:05,719 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 2: can support you.

991
00:47:06,520 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 3: What are you're working on?

992
00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:12,440
Speaker 2: They can follow me at the tip top. I don't

993
00:47:12,480 --> 00:47:18,520
Speaker 2: post design at all high key. She's always at a

994
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:20,799
Speaker 2: different restaurant, Eden, she's always traveling in.

995
00:47:20,760 --> 00:47:24,920
Speaker 3: A different country. I'm amazed how she gets done.

996
00:47:25,239 --> 00:47:27,799
Speaker 2: I really am trying to post like more art this year,

997
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:31,919
Speaker 2: so like we're gonna see Taffan possibly. I do still

998
00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:35,880
Speaker 2: do digital illustrations from time to time, but you know,

999
00:47:36,000 --> 00:47:38,520
Speaker 2: they can follow me at the tip top and I'm

1000
00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:41,799
Speaker 2: on TikTok but that don't really matter. But I'm not

1001
00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:43,600
Speaker 2: working on anything crazy right now. I just have my

1002
00:47:43,640 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 2: regular corporate clients and advocacy groups, so nothing like out there.

1003
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 2: Everything's very very corporate right now.

1004
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:56,200
Speaker 3: Don't get me started.

1005
00:47:57,800 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 2: Listen. We gotta be able. Yeah, And also to those

1006
00:48:01,719 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 2: who are the corporate girlies, if you want to hire

1007
00:48:03,719 --> 00:48:07,080
Speaker 2: me to do the workshop for the coloring books, please

1008
00:48:07,080 --> 00:48:08,799
Speaker 2: please please make sure to email me a hell out

1009
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:09,040
Speaker 2: the p.

1010
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,279
Speaker 3: Yes, please please Employee Resource Group hire me.

1011
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,839
Speaker 2: I know it's about to be black Hair stream Month,

1012
00:48:14,840 --> 00:48:17,040
Speaker 2: about to be Women's Month, about to be every other month,

1013
00:48:17,080 --> 00:48:21,000
Speaker 2: so just hire me because I do offer workshops and

1014
00:48:21,080 --> 00:48:23,759
Speaker 2: it has been amazing. I never thought that I'd be

1015
00:48:23,760 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 2: doing a workshop based off of coloring so and it's

1016
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:26,719
Speaker 2: really fun.

1017
00:48:26,800 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 3: Y'all know I'm a good time. So please make sure that.

1018
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,200
Speaker 2: She does custom pages for those shops sometimes.

1019
00:48:32,320 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, if the coin is right, I could do whatever

1020
00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 3: you want. Disclaimer Yeah not whatever, Terry, that sounds crazy.

1021
00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:44,040
Speaker 2: And on that note, the links would be in the

1022
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,279
Speaker 2: show notes. I make sure to include the Forbes link.

1023
00:48:46,320 --> 00:48:49,520
Speaker 2: I make sure to include the color and book links

1024
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:51,399
Speaker 2: for volume three and volume four, and if you want

1025
00:48:51,400 --> 00:48:53,160
Speaker 2: to follow Tip, I make sure to include her link

1026
00:48:53,200 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: as well. So thank you so much, Tip, And if

1027
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:57,719
Speaker 2: you have any questions coming to concerns, please make sure

1028
00:48:57,719 --> 00:49:00,759
Speaker 2: to email me at hellou at the PSHG podcast. And

1029
00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:03,840
Speaker 2: until next time, everyone, and make sure you subscribe to

1030
00:49:03,840 --> 00:49:07,479
Speaker 2: my YouTube page because the behind the scenes videos will

1031
00:49:07,520 --> 00:49:11,640
Speaker 2: be will be behind the paywall, so you gotta support

1032
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 2: and it's really cheap, y'all, because I know times are

1033
00:49:13,760 --> 00:49:14,360
Speaker 2: hard for all of us.

1034
00:49:16,520 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 3: But until next time, everyone Later.

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