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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 1: get with you discussing so far today. We have right

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Speaker 1: now Christopher Ray testifying on Capitol Hill, FBI Director. We've

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Speaker 1: got some clips that we will play and discuss, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to be joined by Representative Mike Johnson, Republican

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Speaker 1: from Louisiana, who had some fireworks early on with Mike

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Speaker 1: with Christopher Ray, we will play those for you. Ran

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Speaker 1: Paul Senator from Kentucky, schedule to join us at the

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Speaker 1: top of the third hour. He said he's got some

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Speaker 1: news to break with us. All of that coming your way.

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Speaker 1: Inflation comes in at three percent. There's lots of celebration.

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Speaker 1: What I would point out is something that I think

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Speaker 1: a lot of people don't discuss all of that massive

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Speaker 1: increase in inflation. Now it's still growing at three percent

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Speaker 1: on top of that. So if you're out there and

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Speaker 1: you're like me and every time you go to the

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Speaker 1: movies or every time you go through a fast food

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Speaker 1: drive through, and you're like, seventy five bucks, how is

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Speaker 1: this possible? The numbers aren't coming down. Those numbers are

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Speaker 1: now baked in. What you pay for a hamburger has skyrocket,

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Speaker 1: at what you pay for French fries, potato chips, treats

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Speaker 1: at the movie theater, all of it not going away.

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Speaker 1: Have you noticed this buck as much in your day

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Speaker 1: to day?

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Speaker 2: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And it's a decrease in the increase that you're

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Speaker 3: already seeing, which is what it's a little bit like

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Speaker 3: when the government starts to tell you're like, oh, like

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Speaker 3: we're gonna even republicans, we're gonna have some big budget cuts,

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Speaker 3: and then like, oh, these austerity measures.

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Speaker 4: How are we gonna handle all this austerity?

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Speaker 3: And then you find out we're arguing over a decrease

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Speaker 3: in the increase in spending. You know, this is I'm

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Speaker 3: a million dollars in debt. Oh I'm gonna be austere.

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Speaker 3: I'm only gonna add another one hundred thousand instead of

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Speaker 3: two hundred. On top of that, inflation in this regard

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Speaker 3: as somewhat similar, and that inflation.

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Speaker 4: Is still high.

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Speaker 3: It's just decreasing year over year, and it's not going

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Speaker 3: up as fast as people have thought.

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Speaker 1: I've mentioned I think on the show that like every

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Speaker 1: time I go through a fast food drive through now

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Speaker 1: for my boys and inevitably some of their friends, and

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Speaker 1: you know, we're buying Hamburgers and and Ketchup, and I

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Speaker 1: hope we get ketchup, but French Fries, Hamburger's French Fries

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Speaker 1: is just kind of rolling through every time I go

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Speaker 1: through a drive through. It's like seventy five Bucks. Now,

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Speaker 1: I took my kids buck and several of their friends

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Speaker 1: to go watch this, you know, the Spider Verse movie,

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Speaker 1: which I thought was pretty good. Spider Man for the parents,

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Speaker 1: forty dollars at the concession stand in the movie theater. Now,

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Speaker 1: I had six kids. I think my wife was with me.

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Speaker 1: You know, there's so six you know seven or eight

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Speaker 1: on popcorn and candy, and that movie theaters. I've always

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Speaker 1: been expensive. I know every dad for generations has said,

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Speaker 1: to spend at the movie theater. But the numbers that

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Speaker 1: both fast, convenient and not that expensive. You can't do

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Speaker 1: anything affordably. So yes, inflation is coming down, but the

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Speaker 1: numbers that nine percent inflation, that ten percent inflation in

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Speaker 1: many parts of the country that's baked in forever, they're

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Speaker 1: never going to come back off of the numbers that

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Speaker 3: I mean, if you make omelets like I do. You

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Speaker 3: make a three egg omelet these days, and you feel

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Speaker 3: like you should be making glib remarks about the peasants

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Speaker 1: You know? And I don't have any. I got people

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Speaker 3: Congresswoman Luna up in Tampa told me she gave me

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Speaker 3: these days it feels like it's pretty economical too, because

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Speaker 3: of the price that you're seeing in the gros.

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Speaker 1: You know what I did buck that, I was like,

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Speaker 1: I feel like I should confess on the radio over

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Speaker 1: the weekend, I had an avocado toast on Back to

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Speaker 1: Back Days?

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Speaker 3: Did you have it with Gavin Newsom? Because that's what

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Speaker 3: he has play?

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Speaker 1: Is that what he has for bred probably is And

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Speaker 1: you know what, I have to make a confession. It's

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Speaker 1: really good. Yeah. I know that it's trendy to make

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Speaker 1: fun of the millennials and gen Z's over there. Avocado toast.

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Speaker 1: I had avocado toast. I was at a wedding in

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Speaker 1: Chicago back to Back Days for breakfast on Saturday and Sunday.

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Speaker 1: I had it on Saturday and I was like, oh,

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Speaker 1: avocado toast. Then I had it on Sunday. Back to

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Speaker 1: back days. It's now a trend. They're right on this one.

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Speaker 1: Avocado toast is really good.

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Speaker 3: We got to use some AI to get to create

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Speaker 3: a clay with avoca toast beam or something.

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Speaker 1: Do you think people trust me less now on the

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Speaker 1: show because I just confess that I like avocado toast.

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Speaker 4: No, you're a you're a You're a renaissance man, you

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Speaker 4: know what I mean. You're you got many many hats.

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Speaker 3: Clay wears many hats, and and I would I wanted

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Speaker 3: to bring this just around for a second too. And

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Speaker 3: which is that prices are still high and inflation over

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, inflation overall is still high. Look

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Speaker 3: at where mortgages are right now. There's stuff to point

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Speaker 3: and Joe Biden, I know, Bidenomics, everyone's talking about it.

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Speaker 3: Joe Biden is not in the you know, brutal recession.

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Speaker 4: I mean, people have been thinking that this was going

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Speaker 3: Maybe it still will, but this is an economy that

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Speaker 3: it is now, if perception stays where it is, which

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Speaker 3: is a problem for Republicans in twenty twenty four. I'm

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Speaker 3: not saying it's a good economy. It's not, but it's

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Speaker 3: not so awful that it will override their ability to

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Speaker 3: try to convince people that, you know, the job's not

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Speaker 3: done and build back better, and all the propaganda fire

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Speaker 1: Buck, I want to play. You're talking about Biden, and

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Speaker 1: I think this is important. Last night, and I know

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Speaker 1: he's in Europe so it's a little bit different in

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Speaker 1: terms of the time zones. But he didn't go to

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Speaker 1: many of the other global leaders. I think it's becoming

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Speaker 1: increasingly impossible even for people on the left wing to

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Speaker 1: point now Buck where every step that he takes I

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Speaker 1: think he might fall. There are I'll give you an example.

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Speaker 1: This past weekend, I was with my I was with

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Speaker 1: a wedding. My father in law is approaching eighty and

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Speaker 1: my stepmother in law is approaching eighty. There was a

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Speaker 1: between how people at the age of eighty are able

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Speaker 1: to carry themselves. Joe Biden is not a healthy eighty.

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Speaker 1: He's not a vibrant eighty. He's not a in control.

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Speaker 1: I watched Indiana Jones, Buck, They just filmed the Harrison

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Speaker 1: Joe Biden is for eighty year olds in the bottom

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Speaker 1: I would say ten or twenty percent almost of physically

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Speaker 1: when I'm talking about the mental capacity of the physicality right,

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Speaker 3: And Mika over at morning, Joe is very upset about

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Speaker 3: the inability to cover this up by his staff. If

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Speaker 3: Joe stumbles, it's the staff's fault. Mika, by the way,

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Speaker 3: something that she's good at, is, you know, telling the

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Speaker 2: I think his staff needs to own his age. I'm

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Speaker 2: just gonna be honest. I don't think they do a

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Speaker 2: good job helping out the president. And I'm not talking

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Speaker 2: sure he doesn't fall on a sandbag. And I blame

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Speaker 2: the staff for that. I mean, these are the things

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Speaker 2: are going to be played on a loop. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: do a better job, because you can't have these video

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Speaker 2: images of the president tripping or the president like going

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Speaker 2: the wrong way. It's not going to work in this

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Speaker 3: Can I tell you what's going on here, Clay. In

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Speaker 3: my mind, Mika is upset that when she's out with

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Speaker 3: the other trust Fund step moms, they're upset that they

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Speaker 3: have to pretend like Joe Biden is not old and

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Speaker 3: feeble because everyone's seeing it. You know, it's becoming embarrassing

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Speaker 1: Better, think about where we are, Buck, We're now to

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Speaker 1: the point where MSNBC, which is de fault left wing

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Speaker 1: Democrat propaganda, is now blaming staffers for Joe Biden tripping

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Speaker 1: It's not Joe Biden's fault for tripping. Remember we played

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Speaker 3: So they figure if they can run the same playbook

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Speaker 3: The only way that stuff comes out. You have to

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Speaker 3: It was like, I'm I'm writing this letter because I

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Speaker 4: The anonymous op ed guy. Whatever. It's like, because of me,

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Speaker 3: But anyway, there's always the incentive to leak against the

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Speaker 3: There's all that you and I both know in this

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Speaker 1: They'd be like, I don't want to have this conversation.

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Speaker 3: They're not looking unless you're right, and the news machine

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Speaker 3: We'll come back to it. But you know, look, you

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Speaker 5: I'm sitting here with my father I will make certain

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to get into comedy on that. Will you?

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Speaker 5: Are you protecting the bidens?

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Speaker 4: Absolutely not? The FBI?

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Speaker 5: Well, you want to answer your questions about what that's

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Speaker 3: Congressman Matt Gates pushing hard here on FBI Director Christopher Ray,

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Speaker 3: We often talk about how prosecution, the decision to prosecute,

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. Before we

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Speaker 5: Really?

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Speaker 1: You're trying to see you off my position here with

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Speaker 3: I will tell you why. I am still firmly planted Okay,

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Speaker 3: I think it's all reminiscent of the exact same arguments

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Speaker 3: You're if you're a if you're a voter in you know, Michigan,

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Speaker 3: and you're like, well, I don't know, I voted Trump,

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Speaker 3: then I voted Biden or whatever. I don't think you

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Speaker 3: see Biden's decrepit state in his age when he's up

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Speaker 3: against a seventy seven year old the necessary. So I

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Speaker 3: think that's the play Democrats are making here. I also

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Speaker 3: think the incumbency, just as a function of history, is

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Speaker 3: so powerful they won't give it up. It will throw

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Speaker 3: Democrats into disarray to have a primary, and they're gonna

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Speaker 3: have to have a primary, right, They're not just going

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Speaker 3: to elevate. It can't just elevate Kamalo. So I think

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Speaker 3: the best plan that they have is to continue with

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Speaker 3: exactly what they've got the propaganda machinery is all still

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Speaker 3: in place. They are not chastened by the social media

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Speaker 3: collusion with the FBI and all that stuff. They figured

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Speaker 3: they'll run the same playbook, and I think the Ard

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Speaker 3: and Trump voters are saying, well, Trump's gotten a look

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Speaker 3: at their playbook now and he'll know how to get

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Speaker 3: around it. But they're just going to do the two

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Speaker 3: point zher. I don't think they're going to change up anything.

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Speaker 1: I think the difference is they had COVID to use

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Speaker 1: as an excuse for why he wasn't on the road

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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty, and I think it'll be virtually impossible

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Speaker 1: in I think that they are going to announce in

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Speaker 1: the next couple of months, and I think they'll let

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Speaker 1: Biden do it that he's not going to run. And

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Speaker 1: I think that explains why Gavin Newsom is so aggressively

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Speaker 1: court sort of running a shadow campaign for the presidency

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Speaker 1: right now, all while claiming, Oh, Joe Biden's a big

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Speaker 1: Remember even in that Hannity interview, Sewn asked him and said, uh,

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Speaker 1: how often you get called by people who say, hey,

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Speaker 1: you need to jump in on this? And he didn't

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Speaker 1: answer because I bet the answer is quite frequently. Now

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Speaker 1: we'll continue to follow this, but I think every one

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Speaker 1: of these trips were not literal trips, although it could happen.

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Speaker 1: But when Biden is on the road and it's clear

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Speaker 1: how frail and unable to do the job he is,

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Speaker 1: I think it becomes harder and harder for them to

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Speaker 1: argue that he's up for the idea of being president

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Speaker 1: for four more years. I actually think, and I hate

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Speaker 1: to say this, I don't think Buck Biden would live

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Speaker 1: through a second term. I think he would die. He

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Speaker 1: might not live through this term. Honestly, I think he's

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Speaker 1: doing that poorly. But I think he would die as

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Speaker 1: in office if he were re elected. I still believe

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Speaker 1: that the plan is for them to push Biden through

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Speaker 1: this election cycle. Remember, you know we're talking about traveling

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Speaker 1: and everything else. Trump is going to have to appear

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Speaker 1: in court.

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Speaker 4: Now.

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Speaker 3: You could say the federal court is going to get

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Speaker 3: put in the Federal case, we push back. I think

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Speaker 3: that may be true. We'll see, but the New York

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Speaker 3: case is not gonna They're not going to push that

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Speaker 3: thing back. For me, there are gonna be some variables,

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Speaker 3: some unforeseeables in some way here, just about the schedule

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Speaker 3: and the way that it all goes. I also think

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Speaker 3: that the Biden basement campaign, why can't he do that again?

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Speaker 1: A version of it?

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Speaker 3: Everything very scripted, everything very stagecrafted. He just says, I'm

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Speaker 3: the president, I'm busy running the country.

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Speaker 4: This is how I see it. I don't think that

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Speaker 4: they're I agree with you.

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Speaker 3: They're able to use COVID to sort of hide his

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Speaker 3: decrepit nature from the general public.

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Speaker 1: And I think he's gotten way worse buck. I mean,

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Speaker 1: even if you go back and watch Biden in twenty

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Speaker 1: nineteen when he was before COVID happened right before they

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Speaker 1: shut down everything, when he was on the road in Iowa,

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Speaker 1: He's way worse in his physical abilities in twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three than he was in early two.

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Speaker 4: We've seen more, right, we've seen him this.

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Speaker 3: I mean, at a minimum, did he deteriorat or do

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Speaker 3: we just have a bigger sample size of Bidenism's physically

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Speaker 3: and mentally to add to I mean, I could argue

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Speaker 3: that either way. I think that's that's clearly the case.

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Speaker 3: I think he's deteriorated quite a bit. I do well,

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Speaker 3: of course, if you look at I mean, even someone

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Speaker 3: like George Bush, who wasn't W. Bush, who won, wasn't

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Speaker 3: old when he became president by presidential standards. You see

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Speaker 3: him from the beginning to the end with two Wars,

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Speaker 3: nine to eleven, everything that happened. He didn't age eight years.

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Speaker 3: He aged thirty years.

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Speaker 1: Is Trump like the only president who didn't look very

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Speaker 1: much different when he went in and when he came out.

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Speaker 4: It's actually a fair point. He ob.

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Speaker 1: Eight now was eight years, right, so he was in

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Speaker 1: office two terms. But you know, you're right on George W. Bush,

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Speaker 1: Bill Clinton, I think aged quite a bit. Maybe he

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Speaker 1: didn't age that he was young when he went in.

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Speaker 3: I think I think that Trump honestly thrives on the spotlight.

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Speaker 3: I think it is a you know that some people

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Speaker 3: need vitamin D from the sun, and they need like

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Speaker 3: fresh air in a walkout in the woods. Trump just

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Speaker 3: needs to be out there on the stage. I think

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Speaker 3: that this is central to who he is and to

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Speaker 3: who his and to what his you know, day to

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Speaker 3: day needs are.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you can argue that Trump's life probably

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Speaker 1: didn't change that much when he was president in terms

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Speaker 1: of what he did on a day to day basis.

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Speaker 1: Most people, I think aren't as engaged in a day

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Speaker 1: to day busyness of being president in the same way

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Speaker 1: like Joe Biden. I think from twenty eighteen to being

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Speaker 1: president in twenty twenty was probably a lot different. I

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Speaker 1: don't know that Trump's schedule overall changed that much. And

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Speaker 1: I think to your point, he's been comfortable being in

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Speaker 1: the spotlight for a long time, So maybe the weight

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Speaker 1: of being in the spotlight doesn't carry as much weight

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Speaker 1: on his shoulders because he learned how to balance it

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Speaker 1: a long time ago. If that makes sense, which I

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Speaker 1: think it likely does. We come back, let's play some

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Speaker 1: of these cuts, buck, because I do want to hit

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Speaker 1: him with Christopher Ray testifying. So as we go to

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Speaker 1: break here, we'll let you know we're going to continue

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Speaker 1: to update you on everything that is going on during

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Speaker 1: the course of these hearings. And again we're going to

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Speaker 1: be joined by Mike Johnson, who is in this hearing

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Speaker 1: right now, also ran Paul in the third hour of

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Speaker 1: the program. But as we go to break here, I

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Speaker 3: Welcome back in team to Clay and Buck eight hundred

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Speaker 3: two eight two two eight eight two on the phone lines,

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Speaker 3: give us call, let us know what you think about

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Speaker 3: all the things we're already talking about, and uh, just

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Speaker 3: to give you a sense.

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Speaker 4: Of where we are, where we are going.

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Speaker 3: In the third hour, we are gonna have Senator Rand

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Speaker 3: Paul who has an announcement to.

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Speaker 4: Make announcement, so we're looking forward to that.

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Speaker 3: And then also Congressman Mike Johnson will be with us

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Speaker 3: talk a little bit about this hearing today, the FBI

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Speaker 3: hearing on Capitol Hill.

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Speaker 4: Did you want to play one of those cuts here?

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Speaker 4: Am I remembering that correctly?

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Speaker 1: Or well, yeah, let's do Yeah, let's do that. This

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Speaker 1: is going on right now. I think we've got a

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Speaker 1: couple of parts here. Both of these are good, and

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Speaker 1: we're going to talk to Mike Johnson in the third hour.

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Speaker 1: Let's start with cut one.

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Speaker 6: The FBI made the social media platforms pull that information

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Speaker 6: off the Internet if it came from conservative sources. They

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Speaker 6: did this under the guys that it was disinformation. Can

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Speaker 6: you can you define what disinformation is? What I can

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Speaker 6: tell you is that our focus is not on disinformation

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Speaker 6: broadly speaking. Wait a minute, your answer the question you

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Speaker 6: can in a minute. Your star witness said in the litigation.

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Speaker 6: Elvis Chan, who's in charge of this, said, they do

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Speaker 6: it on the basis of disinformation. We need a definition

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Speaker 6: of what that is. Our focus is a malign foreign disinformation,

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Speaker 6: that is, foreign hostile actors who engage in covert efforts

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Speaker 6: to mister risk our social media platforms, which is something

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Speaker 6: that is not seriously in dispute.

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Speaker 1: I have to stop you for time.

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Speaker 6: That's not accurate. You need to read this court opinion

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Speaker 6: because you're in charge of enforcing it.

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Speaker 3: No, they were involved in suppressing US election information online

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Speaker 3: from twenty twenty. They were involved in COVID suppression. What's

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Speaker 3: really the part of this, I think, Clay, that's so

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Speaker 3: hard for anybody to fathom, and not to think that

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Speaker 3: the FBI needs a dramatic a reckoning of some kind,

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Speaker 3: a bureaucratic reckoning, which is complicated. I'll say, you know,

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Speaker 3: we call for these things, we pound the table, but

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Speaker 3: it's not as easy as just you know, defund the

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Speaker 3: FBI and then fund something that will be the FBI again. Right,

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Speaker 3: You have to come up with a structure with guardrails,

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Speaker 3: with accountability, with people getting booted.

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Speaker 4: You need things to happen.

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Speaker 3: The fact though that the FBI was not only suppressing speech,

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Speaker 3: but wrong in what it was suppressing. Right, That's that's

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Speaker 3: an even that goes even above and beyond it would

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Speaker 3: be one thing. It's still wrong, it's still bad. If

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Speaker 3: they were saying, oh, well, we're preventing this really harmful

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Speaker 3: idea from being out there, harmful ideas like the vaccine

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Speaker 3: doesn't stop the spread of COVID. That's the kind of

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Speaker 3: stuff the FBI is making sure they're weighing in on

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Speaker 3: with the CDC and others. I mean, what where did

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Speaker 3: this program stop and start? We need to get answers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah to me and back. And I've been arguing this

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Speaker 1: for a while, but we have so many people out

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Speaker 1: there who listen in politics that I think this really

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Speaker 1: goes to the essence of it. And we'll talk with

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Speaker 1: Rand Paul and Mike Johnson, who you just heard from

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Speaker 1: right there. What I would like to see is if

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Speaker 1: our taxpayer funded employees, which is what the FBI is,

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Speaker 1: are demanding that things be taken down, or if Congressman

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Speaker 1: or senators are demanding that things be taken down, all

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Speaker 1: of it should immediately be public. There should be a

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Speaker 1: open database of requests that are being made by your

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Speaker 1: government and my government that information be pulled off social media,

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Speaker 1: because I'm fine with that. I don't know how many

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Speaker 1: times buck have you ever sent a complaint to Twitter.

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Speaker 1: I would be fine with every complaint I've ever made

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Speaker 1: being public. And I'm not a public official, I'm not

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Speaker 1: taxpayer funded, but full disclosure, three or four times times

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Speaker 1: I have sent a claim to Twitter for somebody that

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Speaker 1: was impersonating me online, that was confusing people and trying

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Speaker 1: to look like it was me. I think also one

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Speaker 1: time somebody threatened to kill my family on Twitter, and

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Speaker 1: I referred that to Twitter. I also referred it to

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Speaker 1: local authorities because I think if you threaten to kill

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Speaker 1: someone on social media or in real life, like to me,

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Speaker 1: you should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

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Speaker 1: But I'd be fine with all of that being public.

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Speaker 1: Like I'm not trying to hide my actions and I'm

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Speaker 1: not a public figure. But I think if I were

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Speaker 1: a congressperson, or I were a senator, or I was

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Speaker 1: a governor, or certainly if it was the FBI or

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Speaker 1: the CIA or any other government fund institution that's trying

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Speaker 1: to get things pulled down off social media, we should

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Speaker 1: know what that is. And that's why I thought this

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Speaker 1: opinion from the Congress from a Judge Dowdy down in

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Speaker 1: Louisiana that's being referenced by Congressman Johnson was so important

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Speaker 1: because they legitimately got the receipts thanks to the Missouri v.

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Speaker 1: Biden lawsuit to see what was actually going on the

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Speaker 1: government was using big tech companies to censor American First

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Speaker 1: Amendment free speech that otherwise would be prohibited under our

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Speaker 1: own constitution.

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Speaker 3: I just have to say, I think it's a good

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Speaker 3: thing that we are seeing action on this and attempts

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Speaker 3: for accountability. But we have to come up with a plan.

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Speaker 3: And really this is going to come down to who

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Speaker 3: will be in charge of the FBI the next time around.

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Speaker 3: Let's assume Biden or whomever. Let's assume Gavin Newsom in

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Speaker 3: a tight race, loses to a Republican in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 1: What happens here?

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Speaker 3: What changes? What's different? The FBI was not changed in

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Speaker 3: any structural serious sense in the first Trump term. Will

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Speaker 3: it be change changed in a second Trump term or

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Speaker 3: another Republican you know, under a Ramaswami presidency. Will there

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Speaker 3: be some Here's a good question here for you, Buck.

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Speaker 3: Christopher Ray was an awful choice.

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Speaker 1: I thought one of the most interesting conversations we've had

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Speaker 1: with Republican presidential candidates, Chris Christie actually said he recommended

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Speaker 1: Christopher Ray to Donald Trump. He actually said he thought

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Speaker 1: Christopher Ray was doing a good job. I think most

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Speaker 1: other Republican presidential candidates would disagree with that. Is the

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Speaker 1: FBI so broken that who Trump named as the head

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Speaker 1: of the FBI wouldn't have really mattered? I think that's thought.

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Speaker 1: I think, is there someone that could have been a

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Speaker 1: home run higher that would would have us not ripping

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Speaker 1: the FBI to shreds right now?

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Speaker 3: So I watched the Arnold Schwarzenegger documentary on Netflix, which

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Speaker 3: was really a Schwarzenegger had geography. You know, it was

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Speaker 3: like the best possible view you could ever have for Schwarzenegger.

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Speaker 3: And what was really interesting to me was when he

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Speaker 3: comes into office. He comes in, you know, he's like,

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Speaker 3: I'm the Govneton, I'm going to just like cross the

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Speaker 3: system and all this stuff, and he thinks he's gonna

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Speaker 3: get all this dramatic change at least this is the storyline.

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Speaker 3: And then it's like, hey man, you ever heard of

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Speaker 3: public sector unions? You ever heard of the Democrat machine

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Speaker 3: in the state of California. He ran into a buzzsaw,

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Speaker 3: couldn't get anything done, and basically found out the only

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Speaker 3: way to do anything was to become a lib and

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Speaker 3: start whining a lot about climate change. Okay, that's what

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Speaker 3: happened to Governor Schwarzenegger because he didn't understand the power

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Speaker 3: of the apparatus, even with him at the top of

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Speaker 3: it in terms of opposing him, something that Trump came

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Speaker 3: up against. To be sure, I mean, there were effectively

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Speaker 3: I was going to say work stoppages at the State Department,

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Speaker 3: but there's not a lot of work that goes on

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Speaker 3: there otherwise. But there was intentional slow roll sabotage of policy.

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Speaker 1: We know this.

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Speaker 3: I mean people have talked about it from the bureaucracy

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Speaker 3: when Trump was president. How do you fix that? And

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Speaker 3: you know, the only ways I can see are slashing

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Speaker 3: funding so that you put them on a severe austerity

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Speaker 3: situation in these agencies. But then they'll say, oh, we

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Speaker 3: can't do anything personnel who are ideologically aligned. But it's

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Speaker 3: really tough. You know, the fourth branch of government is

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Speaker 3: very durable. Unfortunately, for our republic. I don't know how

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Speaker 3: you fix it. It's going to take a lot to

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Speaker 3: fix it.

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Speaker 1: This is where I come back around to if you

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Speaker 1: fired half of all government employees, federal government employees, would

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Speaker 1: the government be less efficient? I think the answers probably know.

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Speaker 1: And if you could eliminate half of people who do

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Speaker 1: a job and nothing changes, then it's a sign that

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Speaker 1: we have got a really, really unnecessary, bloated bureaucracy. I

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Speaker 1: wish we could just have a president come in and

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Speaker 1: say half of you are fired, go find real jobs.

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Speaker 1: I would love to see that.

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Speaker 4: Go full elon, if you will.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk a little bit about the latest on Russia Ukraine,

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Speaker 3: and there was an Andrew Tayne interview with Tucker